WEBVTT 1 00:01:08.520 --> 00:01:09.810 james murez: or I can't turn you down. 2 00:01:13.980 --> 00:01:14.370 james murez: attendees. 3 00:01:21.570 --> 00:01:23.610 james murez: And then you guys can figure it out from there on. 4 00:01:31.320 --> 00:01:31.980 james murez: Co host. 5 00:01:36.540 --> 00:01:38.010 james murez: She did not accept. 6 00:01:43.800 --> 00:01:44.250 james murez: host. 7 00:01:45.510 --> 00:01:46.050 james murez: Noel. 8 00:01:46.980 --> 00:01:47.850 I can you know well. 9 00:01:49.080 --> 00:01:50.100 james murez: yeah I can hear you you're. 10 00:01:51.090 --> 00:01:55.230 james murez: Here you're now host of the meeting, you need to let everybody else in okay Oh well. 11 00:01:55.710 --> 00:02:00.900 Noel Johnston: i've never done this before, so this would be a new experience for me, I had no idea that I was hosting this. 12 00:02:02.430 --> 00:02:09.870 james murez: yeah well let's let Isabel talk you through it it's pretty easy to do you'll make her co host and then, when she's co host. 13 00:02:10.200 --> 00:02:10.500 Okay. 14 00:02:12.300 --> 00:02:12.600 james murez: yeah. 15 00:02:14.190 --> 00:02:14.520 yeah. 16 00:02:20.370 --> 00:02:24.330 Noel Johnston: wow I can't I can't even hear anybody. 17 00:02:26.340 --> 00:02:27.570 james murez: You guys need to figure it out. 18 00:02:32.610 --> 00:02:34.290 james murez: and turn it over to somebody else. 19 00:02:37.230 --> 00:02:37.620 james murez: Okay. 20 00:02:40.530 --> 00:02:42.480 Noel Johnston: The video should be showing i'm not saying. 21 00:03:28.140 --> 00:03:34.020 james murez: The bell you have to accept the role change or I can't promote you and can't keep trying to do this. 22 00:03:54.930 --> 00:04:06.030 james murez: Isabel i've tried six times to promote you to panelists you have to accept being promoted before you can be promoted and I can't make you co host until you're promoted to a panelist. 23 00:04:15.180 --> 00:04:15.870 james murez: Isabel. 24 00:04:19.560 --> 00:04:20.250 james murez: Sorry guys. 25 00:04:29.850 --> 00:04:31.500 james murez: It says on my end it is. 26 00:04:53.880 --> 00:04:55.680 james murez: you're now host and i'm hanging up. 27 00:04:57.510 --> 00:04:58.110 james murez: Did you hear me. 28 00:05:01.050 --> 00:05:04.290 Isabelle Duvivier: Yes, I heard you Thank you bye Thank you very much. 29 00:05:07.290 --> 00:05:09.630 Isabelle Duvivier: I heard, to thank you goodbye. 30 00:07:35.490 --> 00:07:35.880 Isabelle Duvivier: hmm. 31 00:07:44.190 --> 00:07:48.060 Isabelle Duvivier: I see somebody else's here, but I can't. 32 00:07:49.470 --> 00:07:50.160 Isabelle Duvivier: There we are. 33 00:07:56.130 --> 00:07:57.600 Noel Johnston: As can you can you hear me. 34 00:07:58.170 --> 00:07:59.400 Isabelle Duvivier: yeah I can. 35 00:08:00.690 --> 00:08:03.570 Isabelle Duvivier: I can hear you I can't see you and I. 36 00:08:03.600 --> 00:08:08.700 Noel Johnston: Can that's a strange thing, because it shows me as being. 37 00:08:09.870 --> 00:08:12.960 Noel Johnston: Here, on my screen i'm unmuted and i'm on video. 38 00:08:14.610 --> 00:08:27.510 Isabelle Duvivier: Is there, I think that you've been promoted to a panelist and i'm not allowed to there's one other person on the call and I can't see who it is there's two people now on the call. 39 00:08:29.040 --> 00:08:31.800 Isabelle Duvivier: Is there, do you have the ability to. 40 00:08:34.230 --> 00:08:40.380 Noel Johnston: I do not, I don't have any options here at all i've got participants share screen and raised hand that's a. 41 00:08:41.850 --> 00:08:43.050 Isabelle Duvivier: me too. 42 00:08:43.590 --> 00:08:50.310 Noel Johnston: Okay, now I just I just turned off start video and i'm going to try to turn it on again nothing. 43 00:08:51.330 --> 00:08:53.340 Isabelle Duvivier: Sorry, you guys, this is a new. 44 00:08:54.750 --> 00:08:58.020 Isabelle Duvivier: A new way to do this and I don't think Jim shared. 45 00:08:58.800 --> 00:08:59.790 Noel Johnston: there's something wrong. 46 00:08:59.940 --> 00:09:04.260 Isabelle Duvivier: everything he was supposed to share with us, so let me call him back. 47 00:09:07.230 --> 00:09:08.910 Noel Johnston: He seemed a little cranky today. 48 00:09:09.780 --> 00:09:13.170 Noel Johnston: And virtual background is still loading. 49 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:14.970 Noel Johnston: Start video anyway. 50 00:09:16.350 --> 00:09:20.160 Noel Johnston: Yes, use video Why is virtual background still loading. 51 00:09:22.830 --> 00:09:25.530 Noel Johnston: I don't know why virtual background would be loading. 52 00:09:27.420 --> 00:09:27.750 Isabelle Duvivier: hmm. 53 00:09:29.400 --> 00:09:33.960 Isabelle Duvivier: hey sorry constant miras calling Jim yours other. 54 00:09:35.880 --> 00:09:38.850 Isabelle Duvivier: Time my panelists sorry to keep you waiting. 55 00:09:44.790 --> 00:09:58.710 Isabelle Duvivier: Hello hey so I don't think you shared all capabilities with me, because I cannot see who's in the waiting room and I can't you have to you at your you are the host of the meeting. 56 00:09:59.130 --> 00:10:08.310 Isabelle Duvivier: Which means that you have to go to the to the attendee list, there is no attendee list, do you go down to the bottom of the screen there's an attendee was. 57 00:10:09.540 --> 00:10:09.750 Isabelle Duvivier: there. 58 00:10:10.260 --> 00:10:12.240 Isabelle Duvivier: says participants and it just the. 59 00:10:12.240 --> 00:10:15.780 Isabelle Duvivier: Participants yeah, but when I open it okay wait. 60 00:10:16.980 --> 00:10:30.870 Isabelle Duvivier: there's two tabs there one once his palace uses attendees it's Okay, then you right click on the attendee or do whatever it is that I don't want you to but there's a way to do it he's not going to check out the farmers OK OK. 61 00:10:34.440 --> 00:10:35.670 Noel Johnston: And you do that as well. 62 00:10:37.950 --> 00:10:39.390 Isabelle Duvivier: sorta. 63 00:10:41.160 --> 00:10:45.360 Isabelle Duvivier: hi Andrea and Sarah waters, I see you. 64 00:10:46.470 --> 00:10:57.960 Isabelle Duvivier: promote two panelists Okay, here we go promote to panelist you have to like Double Click it's not where it usually is there some. 65 00:10:59.610 --> 00:11:02.340 Isabelle Duvivier: Andreas did you see that I promoted you. 66 00:11:03.720 --> 00:11:06.150 Isabelle Duvivier: Okay here, he comes sorry guys. 67 00:11:09.000 --> 00:11:09.720 sarahwauters: Something. 68 00:11:10.290 --> 00:11:11.670 Isabelle Duvivier: I know right. 69 00:11:13.770 --> 00:11:14.580 sarahwauters: All right, because my. 70 00:11:15.000 --> 00:11:16.530 Isabelle Duvivier: panelists Evans here. 71 00:11:22.710 --> 00:11:31.560 Isabelle Duvivier: it's the hard part about not being in charge of her own zoom and i'm it's embarrassing to think that you guys had to listen to all of that. 72 00:11:32.760 --> 00:11:36.120 sarahwauters: Well, I mean it's Jim so. 73 00:11:36.510 --> 00:11:36.930 Isabelle Duvivier: I don't. 74 00:11:37.050 --> 00:11:38.310 sarahwauters: wish to be embarrassed. 75 00:11:39.330 --> 00:11:47.640 sarahwauters: But anyway, Evan since you already have a lot of experience of the Venice neighborhood Council i'm sure you. 76 00:11:49.230 --> 00:11:50.670 sarahwauters: you're aware that these things happen. 77 00:11:51.300 --> 00:11:52.980 Evan Corrigan: I wasn't here but. 78 00:11:54.570 --> 00:11:54.930 sarahwauters: You got. 79 00:11:54.960 --> 00:11:57.720 Evan Corrigan: I know the first 10 minutes of every meeting our. 80 00:12:00.270 --> 00:12:01.050 sarahwauters: logistics. 81 00:12:01.710 --> 00:12:06.690 Isabelle Duvivier: Yes, and no well I can't figure out how to get her face on the screen, which is a shame. 82 00:12:06.810 --> 00:12:09.540 sarahwauters: Have you have you promoted her two panelists. 83 00:12:12.450 --> 00:12:15.090 Isabelle Duvivier: She was promoted by Jim. 84 00:12:16.530 --> 00:12:17.580 Isabelle Duvivier: Let me see you. 85 00:12:17.580 --> 00:12:24.870 sarahwauters: can't so I know well, you can't see them you and stop video signs, at the very bottom left of your string. 86 00:12:25.050 --> 00:12:27.210 Noel Johnston: I can, I can do both. 87 00:12:27.630 --> 00:12:29.010 sarahwauters: And, did you click on them both. 88 00:12:29.220 --> 00:12:30.030 Noel Johnston: Yes, I have. 89 00:12:31.920 --> 00:12:37.170 Isabelle Duvivier: No matter how to spotlight her work let's see. 90 00:12:37.890 --> 00:12:39.600 sarahwauters: If I know well, are you sitting in the dark. 91 00:12:43.680 --> 00:12:44.130 Isabelle Duvivier: You know. 92 00:12:45.090 --> 00:12:54.450 Noel Johnston: And I was on another zoom earlier, so I can't I can't unless unless gemma's somehow or another, I can't imagine what it would been. 93 00:12:56.850 --> 00:12:58.050 sarahwauters: excluded, you are now. 94 00:12:59.340 --> 00:13:04.470 sarahwauters: Well let's look forward to a few more people coming I did get the notice out pretty. 95 00:13:07.800 --> 00:13:09.120 Isabelle Duvivier: Just sign up into. 96 00:13:11.670 --> 00:13:11.880 Noel Johnston: Well, I. 97 00:13:12.090 --> 00:13:16.200 andreas: was just looking to listen in so maybe I should demote myself. 98 00:13:17.490 --> 00:13:17.970 andreas: To. 99 00:13:19.140 --> 00:13:22.020 andreas: Regular attendee instead of panelists. 100 00:13:24.150 --> 00:13:27.240 sarahwauters: No that's okay just just hang just hang in. 101 00:13:27.450 --> 00:13:32.220 sarahwauters: we're going to wait for a few more people to show up let's hope that some people Barry was unable to come today. 102 00:13:33.720 --> 00:13:34.650 sarahwauters: and 103 00:13:35.910 --> 00:13:42.210 sarahwauters: I haven't heard from any other folks but I did send out the in the invitation widely. 104 00:13:43.350 --> 00:13:46.980 sarahwauters: So we'll see what happens I hope more people come because I want to. 105 00:13:47.550 --> 00:13:48.540 sarahwauters: hear what you have to say. 106 00:13:59.790 --> 00:14:00.420 sarahwauters: No well. 107 00:14:00.780 --> 00:14:01.320 yeah. 108 00:14:02.400 --> 00:14:03.720 Isabelle Duvivier: I spotlighted you. 109 00:14:04.710 --> 00:14:07.080 Noel Johnston: I just tried to stop my video. 110 00:14:12.690 --> 00:14:16.260 Isabelle Duvivier: That I spotlighted to like hours ago. 111 00:14:18.480 --> 00:14:24.420 Isabelle Duvivier: it's so weird I have an account and my my my account doesn't look anything like this. 112 00:14:24.510 --> 00:14:27.780 sarahwauters: There is it possible that other people are trying to get it and you can't see them. 113 00:14:28.080 --> 00:14:33.960 Isabelle Duvivier: No, I can see who's here there's five panelists zero attendees okay. 114 00:14:34.380 --> 00:14:35.430 sarahwauters: So before. 115 00:14:35.580 --> 00:14:36.600 sarahwauters: Before you. 116 00:14:36.630 --> 00:14:39.930 sarahwauters: promoted us, it seemed like you couldn't see us at all. 117 00:14:40.410 --> 00:14:52.740 Isabelle Duvivier: Correct because I couldn't you have to, for some reason, you have to Double Click on on this one and we don't really have this we just let everybody in. 118 00:14:53.490 --> 00:15:05.160 Isabelle Duvivier: Right, so we don't have this panelists attendees thing, but we have done it before it just the button didn't seem to operate i'm going to just text a few folks. 119 00:15:05.850 --> 00:15:06.360 Okay. 120 00:15:07.590 --> 00:15:15.990 sarahwauters: yeah i'm just wondering, because I, I came in at like 1125 and it didn't seem like you could see me. 121 00:15:16.320 --> 00:15:18.570 Isabelle Duvivier: Michael says he's on hold. 122 00:15:19.980 --> 00:15:21.060 sarahwauters: yeah, so I think. 123 00:15:22.410 --> 00:15:23.250 Noel Johnston: Some weird. 124 00:15:23.790 --> 00:15:24.510 sarahwauters: yeah. 125 00:15:25.080 --> 00:15:29.160 Noel Johnston: Particular mine Christopher Isabel i'm going to leave and see if I can get back on. 126 00:15:30.030 --> 00:15:30.660 Okay. 127 00:15:31.860 --> 00:15:33.930 sarahwauters: And then, if you can't no i'll text us. 128 00:15:34.170 --> 00:15:34.620 Okay. 129 00:15:36.060 --> 00:15:37.350 Isabelle Duvivier: And let me send. 130 00:15:43.020 --> 00:15:46.320 Isabelle Duvivier: he's on an old zoom that's why he's on my zoom. 131 00:16:00.030 --> 00:16:01.350 sarahwauters: Thought I sent them. 132 00:16:02.730 --> 00:16:03.780 sarahwauters: offers them out. 133 00:16:03.990 --> 00:16:05.400 Isabelle Duvivier: If it's some people just put. 134 00:16:07.560 --> 00:16:11.610 Isabelle Duvivier: Some do a reoccurring meeting just use the same. 135 00:16:12.780 --> 00:16:14.040 sarahwauters: yeah, no, no. 136 00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:18.840 Isabelle Duvivier: Okay. 137 00:16:29.220 --> 00:16:30.690 sarahwauters: You said, Michael there right soon. 138 00:16:36.060 --> 00:16:36.480 Isabelle Duvivier: All right. 139 00:16:36.720 --> 00:16:45.750 sarahwauters: I was wondering if you could send me the word version, did you send that to me already have the agenda so that I can take minutes. 140 00:16:47.340 --> 00:16:47.820 Isabelle Duvivier: Oh. 141 00:16:49.410 --> 00:16:52.140 Isabelle Duvivier: that's not gonna be easy for me to get right now. 142 00:16:52.200 --> 00:16:53.610 sarahwauters: that's fine i'll just do it. 143 00:17:06.450 --> 00:17:09.330 sarahwauters: Okay, so I think it's worth waiting for, Michael yes. 144 00:17:11.700 --> 00:17:16.950 Isabelle Duvivier: We can start without him whatsoever, we give it well it's already seven minutes. 145 00:17:17.010 --> 00:17:20.430 Isabelle Duvivier: yeah late and we have a big day. 146 00:17:23.580 --> 00:17:29.550 Noel Johnston: Did you did anybody notice that our agenda is not up on the gnc site. 147 00:17:30.210 --> 00:17:43.200 sarahwauters: yeah that's that's my fault, because I couldn't get signed in and they were supposed to send me i've been using your sign in there were spent supposed to send me a new site and they haven't done it so. 148 00:17:45.150 --> 00:17:53.250 sarahwauters: I mean eventually i'll just go ahead and use your sign and again, but it doesn't make sense now they really should send me my own. 149 00:17:54.270 --> 00:17:54.960 sarahwauters: password. 150 00:17:57.000 --> 00:18:00.000 sarahwauters: Anyway, yes, I will do that as soon as I have. 151 00:18:03.210 --> 00:18:11.220 sarahwauters: But it was a it's it's posted with the the general announcement that comes from the neighborhood Councils. 152 00:18:12.390 --> 00:18:16.710 sarahwauters: And it was posted at both the library and beyond broke as well. 153 00:18:20.100 --> 00:18:21.720 sarahwauters: And you guys got the agenda correct. 154 00:18:23.250 --> 00:18:26.550 sarahwauters: yeah okay Okay, so why don't we get started, then. 155 00:18:28.170 --> 00:18:28.800 sarahwauters: i'm. 156 00:18:30.300 --> 00:18:46.860 sarahwauters: Isabelle call to order and roll call so Isabel myself mark is not here, no well is here in areas not here, Jim is not here, but he's ex officio so that does equal a Korean I believe. 157 00:18:49.740 --> 00:18:57.120 sarahwauters: So the Minutes have not been put up either so neither of you, you nobody would have been able to review them because of the same issue. 158 00:18:58.830 --> 00:19:03.240 sarahwauters: So we'll leave approval of last minute. 159 00:19:03.300 --> 00:19:04.590 sarahwauters: The last meeting minutes. 160 00:19:04.620 --> 00:19:09.210 sarahwauters: until the next meeting, oh here's my goal right. 161 00:19:12.270 --> 00:19:19.650 sarahwauters: Okay, so let's begin with reports as well do you have a chair report you'd like to share with us what's going on with this feedback. 162 00:19:21.210 --> 00:19:24.840 Isabelle Duvivier: Oh well, as we speak there's a tree removal. 163 00:19:24.840 --> 00:19:45.000 Isabelle Duvivier: notice for 12 walnuts and toil on some to lots in the Santa Monica mountains there's another tree removal for 200 year old sycamores it for the crenshaw crossing project that Community activists and that in CD 10 have been fighting against. 164 00:19:47.340 --> 00:19:48.360 Isabelle Duvivier: metro. 165 00:19:49.980 --> 00:19:57.360 Isabelle Duvivier: there's this a lot of stuff like that nothing I don't have anything special to report, other than some of the stuff we're going to talk about today. 166 00:19:57.750 --> 00:19:58.830 Isabelle Duvivier: Okay, all. 167 00:19:58.920 --> 00:19:59.310 Right. 168 00:20:02.790 --> 00:20:13.590 sarahwauters: I think that most of what I have to say has to do with what we're gonna do today, too, so I don't need to have a separate report No well, would you like to report on what's going on with the vg. 169 00:20:14.430 --> 00:20:31.260 Noel Johnston: i'm sure we are of course going to be meeting tomorrow morning at the farmers market we're going to be waiting and repairing a little equipment out there, primarily reading we hope to have milk, but we're not sure that we're getting. 170 00:20:33.030 --> 00:20:36.330 Noel Johnston: That Peters picking it up, I haven't been able to reach Peter today. 171 00:20:38.100 --> 00:20:44.130 Noel Johnston: We are also in the process of submitting a grant. 172 00:20:45.720 --> 00:20:55.890 Noel Johnston: For the skill Center um which we have high hopes for but no guarantees of course and we're going to either submit that later today or on Monday. 173 00:20:57.030 --> 00:21:04.230 Noel Johnston: We had a good zoom with the people at the skill Center. 174 00:21:06.690 --> 00:21:07.170 Noel Johnston: I think it was a. 175 00:21:08.670 --> 00:21:11.670 Noel Johnston: Little hard to tell I guess we'll find out we'll find out shortly. 176 00:21:12.870 --> 00:21:23.130 Noel Johnston: But Nicole waterman was helpful and getting that together, as you as were you Sarah and the people involved seemed. 177 00:21:25.260 --> 00:21:34.290 Noel Johnston: Less obstructionist than they were in the past, so we'll see see what happens there, as you may or may not know the boxes that were. 178 00:21:34.740 --> 00:21:49.590 Noel Johnston: planted by neighbors along the fourth street side of the Venice skill Center or vandalized somebody apparently took advantage of the of the wood that the boxes were made out of install all the wood dumping, the boxes and. 179 00:21:50.640 --> 00:22:04.320 Noel Johnston: just leaving a mess there it's grown weedy and it's it's insanely skill Center itself doesn't show much interest in the property outside their fence or hasn't been the past. 180 00:22:04.860 --> 00:22:12.330 Noel Johnston: Because it's city property and they're all US gay, so we hope we can get them a little more interested in helping us. 181 00:22:14.190 --> 00:22:25.680 Noel Johnston: straight out their property that that isn't what an activity that we usually do, but in this case because we're submitting a grant we're we're going to try to do something about it that's pretty much it. 182 00:22:26.370 --> 00:22:44.370 sarahwauters: that's great, thank you for reporting on that well I am I meant to attend that, unfortunately, I was hit very hard by the booster this week and I basically spent two days in bed Oh, I would have tried to, but I think I might have been fast asleep, the entire day. 183 00:22:45.600 --> 00:22:52.470 sarahwauters: So did was there much talk at all about working on the land that the skill Center sits on. 184 00:22:53.460 --> 00:22:57.210 Noel Johnston: Now we pretty much did not bring that up. 185 00:22:59.940 --> 00:23:09.780 Noel Johnston: it's possible that we should have it was mentioned in a cursory in a cursory manner, because our grant is specifically it's a city grant. 186 00:23:10.290 --> 00:23:22.770 Noel Johnston: So it's a beautiful Lai la grant and we we didn't bring it up, because that is la USD property on the inside, they have been very hostile. 187 00:23:23.520 --> 00:23:32.940 Noel Johnston: In the past, I mean if you try to walk on to that campus you will be stopped by a security guard the the the neighbors are. 188 00:23:33.840 --> 00:23:45.120 Noel Johnston: and have been for a long time upset about the fact that that property is tantamount to having a prison and the neighborhood the fencing around it is is hostile and they. 189 00:23:46.740 --> 00:23:54.480 Noel Johnston: School district, or at least the as its represented at that particular school is is. 190 00:23:55.830 --> 00:24:03.750 Noel Johnston: Very stays very much themselves they're really not interested in the surrounding community as far as we can tell at all so. 191 00:24:04.500 --> 00:24:18.300 Noel Johnston: It was it was broached that it would be nice to have some plantings on that on that property, but I can't say that that was met with an enthusiasm we'll just see where that goes well we'll we'll follow up on that Sir. 192 00:24:18.630 --> 00:24:29.520 sarahwauters: Okay, I just was curious, because I, it does seem like an opportunity, but um and that was what I had written in my emails to them, but yeah I I. 193 00:24:31.440 --> 00:24:40.080 sarahwauters: Every single school every single school represents a huge opportunity they look they own tons of land and now. 194 00:24:41.040 --> 00:24:46.260 Michael McGuffin: May I heard a different message I was on that call, let me see if I can find my. 195 00:24:47.850 --> 00:24:55.860 Michael McGuffin: camera there we go hiding I just you know I had to have my lunch and I spell so for your sake, I turned off again. 196 00:24:58.350 --> 00:24:58.680 Michael McGuffin: They. 197 00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:10.110 Michael McGuffin: I agree with Noel that are not going to get on the campus with this current grant but they brought up I don't remember the woman's name that they've got this. 198 00:25:13.020 --> 00:25:15.180 Michael McGuffin: proposition our funding they got. 199 00:25:16.230 --> 00:25:22.650 Michael McGuffin: Hundreds of millions of dollars lots and lots of money and even though I did go look at the. 200 00:25:23.580 --> 00:25:30.600 Michael McGuffin: The our proposal and it doesn't talk about beautification or planting or anything like that, but she brought it up as. 201 00:25:31.500 --> 00:25:39.300 Michael McGuffin: Maybe another resource that could be used, and then she said, what about this school over in Santa Monica What about this school over and short and. 202 00:25:39.870 --> 00:25:52.350 Michael McGuffin: So she was kind of pushing us to think about that, if we had opportunities, not just at the Bennett skill centers but at other schools, would we be open to that we all expressed. 203 00:25:53.790 --> 00:25:55.560 Michael McGuffin: You know, positive response that. 204 00:25:56.490 --> 00:25:56.910 sarahwauters: Oh, maybe. 205 00:25:57.660 --> 00:25:59.040 Michael McGuffin: Maybe they don't turn. 206 00:25:59.790 --> 00:26:02.970 sarahwauters: yeah maybe this skill Center has challenges that we don't understand. 207 00:26:03.330 --> 00:26:16.140 sarahwauters: that's kind of what it sounds like to me like maybe the population that attend school, there is, you know something that we don't really understand the nature of what they're doing and so it's. 208 00:26:17.730 --> 00:26:32.820 sarahwauters: You know they're they're trying to let us know, in the most subtle of ways that they don't think that we're the right mix for them, but if they do have other schools that they want us to broach I think that probably is an important thing to note. 209 00:26:32.910 --> 00:26:33.780 Michael McGuffin: He talked about. 210 00:26:35.340 --> 00:26:52.410 Michael McGuffin: You know all that square footage of asphalt wouldn't wouldn't be good to put some plates and produce and the woman from the La USD said I don't think that there's a culinary arts program there, but maybe there could be if we were able to. 211 00:26:53.820 --> 00:26:55.590 Michael McGuffin: support it with plants. 212 00:26:57.720 --> 00:26:59.610 sarahwauters: And there's no program I mean like. 213 00:26:59.970 --> 00:27:03.780 Michael McGuffin: I don't think there's a gardening program there's not a learn how to grow your food Program. 214 00:27:04.410 --> 00:27:10.050 sarahwauters: Or how about learn how to become a guard a landscaper I mean that's like a skill that we actually need in a city. 215 00:27:11.550 --> 00:27:12.450 sarahwauters: Anyway, so. 216 00:27:13.890 --> 00:27:16.500 sarahwauters: Okay, well, I think it's worth. 217 00:27:17.970 --> 00:27:22.800 sarahwauters: Perhaps a little bit of other offline discussion just last thing, what was the follow up plan. 218 00:27:26.070 --> 00:27:26.490 sarahwauters: Any. 219 00:27:26.670 --> 00:27:28.410 Noel Johnston: Are you are you asking me. 220 00:27:28.590 --> 00:27:31.860 Noel Johnston: Yes, well, I think that that. 221 00:27:33.450 --> 00:27:36.150 Noel Johnston: I think that we agreed to get back to each other. 222 00:27:38.610 --> 00:27:42.000 Noel Johnston: Casey i'm was. 223 00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:52.560 Noel Johnston: i'd say where she was responsive she's mel's one's representative Casey call Canada and she she basically. 224 00:27:53.100 --> 00:28:04.290 Noel Johnston: agreed that she would get back to us, and I think we agreed that we would get back to her, we did tell them that we were applying for this grant and we thought that if we. 225 00:28:05.250 --> 00:28:08.100 Noel Johnston: If we do get the grant the grant the grant sounds like. 226 00:28:08.820 --> 00:28:22.920 Noel Johnston: A situation where we'd apply, and if we got accepted on the first round we'd reapply I don't know whether there's a third round on it or not, so it doesn't sound like something that we're going to see results for in real immediate future. 227 00:28:24.900 --> 00:28:27.510 Noel Johnston: But in any case, we agreed to get back to each other. 228 00:28:28.470 --> 00:28:28.800 sarahwauters: Okay. 229 00:28:29.190 --> 00:28:39.240 Noel Johnston: They weren't they weren't anti are great application, but I can't say that they sound real enthusiastic about it either they didn't ask to see it so. 230 00:28:40.560 --> 00:28:44.790 sarahwauters: Right well, who was the person that was representing the city. 231 00:28:45.120 --> 00:28:45.480 Noel Johnston: That was. 232 00:28:46.980 --> 00:28:48.480 Noel Johnston: That was basically Casey. 233 00:28:48.900 --> 00:28:51.330 sarahwauters: Casey and who was representing the Elio St. 234 00:28:51.600 --> 00:28:56.670 Noel Johnston: Excuse me that that was that was Casey i'm the city. 235 00:28:57.360 --> 00:28:59.910 sarahwauters: I didn't know the La USD so that was Casey. 236 00:29:00.390 --> 00:29:01.470 Noel Johnston: That was Casey yeah. 237 00:29:01.890 --> 00:29:02.430 sarahwauters: Right okay. 238 00:29:02.640 --> 00:29:09.630 Noel Johnston: Well, you know, we had our allison was involved NICO was involved, I don't think we had a real city representative there. 239 00:29:11.820 --> 00:29:15.690 sarahwauters: Right yeah I mean I ended the principal attend or not. 240 00:29:20.760 --> 00:29:21.300 sarahwauters: No well. 241 00:29:21.690 --> 00:29:22.290 Noel Johnston: i'm sorry. 242 00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:24.150 Isabelle Duvivier: No, the principal was not there. 243 00:29:24.690 --> 00:29:26.490 sarahwauters: was not there okay okay let's. 244 00:29:27.030 --> 00:29:32.940 Isabelle Duvivier: See at the end of the day, they said that they couldn't support our proposal, because of the liability and they. 245 00:29:34.500 --> 00:29:39.960 Isabelle Duvivier: Until they determine otherwise, they also can't support us using their water yeah. 246 00:29:40.050 --> 00:29:43.380 sarahwauters: Okay, so that's that was actually stated at the meeting. 247 00:29:43.740 --> 00:29:53.760 Noel Johnston: Well, they didn't say anything about the grant Sir, those were they were they were basically talking about our about basically supporting our efforts. 248 00:29:54.390 --> 00:29:56.670 Isabelle Duvivier: yeah but they said they couldn't actually. 249 00:29:58.080 --> 00:30:03.300 Isabelle Duvivier: They couldn't verbally, we were hoping that we could add them as a partner. 250 00:30:03.840 --> 00:30:13.470 Isabelle Duvivier: Right in the grant application, but they said they could not support that without further you know research or effort and that. 251 00:30:15.060 --> 00:30:18.600 Noel Johnston: But they did also say that that would look into this liability situation. 252 00:30:18.780 --> 00:30:19.170 Noel Johnston: And when. 253 00:30:19.560 --> 00:30:23.010 Noel Johnston: When we said to Casey Look, we have we have. 254 00:30:24.210 --> 00:30:32.430 Noel Johnston: Agreements verbal and otherwise, with the city and several different levels, recreation and parks, the library. 255 00:30:33.990 --> 00:30:46.020 Noel Johnston: And I said, you know Casey we have discovered that where there's a will there is a way here so that that you know if you're if you're open to this, I think it's going to happen if you're not open to it, it probably want. 256 00:30:46.560 --> 00:30:54.960 Noel Johnston: And she didn't disagree with that either, so I think I don't think they're used to thinking about this sort of thing honestly. 257 00:30:55.980 --> 00:31:06.870 Noel Johnston: allison was was very optimistic, but of course she's no longer with melody lines office Casey replaced her in melvin's office when she decided to run for CD 11. 258 00:31:07.470 --> 00:31:22.800 Noel Johnston: So it's you know i'm excited about the feeling that that if allison was in casey's place we might have gotten a more optimistic answer huh but will you know that remains to be seen, she they certainly didn't say no. 259 00:31:25.320 --> 00:31:26.430 Noel Johnston: That was it. 260 00:31:27.960 --> 00:31:48.150 sarahwauters: Okay okay well this actually does provide us with a wonderful segue because you're talking about one of the beautification grants for the area around not inside but around the La skill Center and our first order of new businesses la beautification projects so. 261 00:31:49.620 --> 00:31:51.630 sarahwauters: isn't it Isabel did you want to speak about that. 262 00:31:52.320 --> 00:31:55.740 Isabelle Duvivier: yeah i'm going to share, oh no not this one. 263 00:31:56.910 --> 00:32:00.750 Isabelle Duvivier: Sorry, let me stop the share otherwise stop this share. 264 00:32:01.950 --> 00:32:06.750 Isabelle Duvivier: share that was the tree removal, it was just paying attention to. 265 00:32:07.890 --> 00:32:13.290 Isabelle Duvivier: It okay So are we doing the tree inventory, are we doing. 266 00:32:14.610 --> 00:32:16.320 Isabelle Duvivier: Now, like beautification right now. 267 00:32:16.470 --> 00:32:18.420 sarahwauters: I live unification that's the first. 268 00:32:18.990 --> 00:32:22.770 Isabelle Duvivier: Okay, so we just talked about this one. 269 00:32:24.120 --> 00:32:38.940 Isabelle Duvivier: I wanted to, I wanted to talk about this in terms of strategy we are thinking about applying for three we've prepared to La beautification grants and I wonder if. 270 00:32:39.750 --> 00:32:45.390 Isabelle Duvivier: And the first one Noel talked about this is the area that we would seek to beautify. 271 00:32:46.230 --> 00:33:05.730 Isabelle Duvivier: The picture on the left is the work that we've already done that stuff on the right, is what we hope to achieve, I think I might have one more picture, this is the skill Center and this we're applying for 20 $500 through in partnership with the Chamber of Commerce. 272 00:33:07.020 --> 00:33:10.530 Isabelle Duvivier: The grant is ready to go, we have the photos we need. 273 00:33:11.640 --> 00:33:19.980 Isabelle Duvivier: The second one we're doing oh that was just something I wanted to share with them, but then I felt like I was probably being a little bit too. 274 00:33:21.690 --> 00:33:25.950 Isabelle Duvivier: I don't know anyway, these are pictures around that facility. 275 00:33:26.010 --> 00:33:27.030 sarahwauters: I like that picture. 276 00:33:27.510 --> 00:33:28.230 Isabelle Duvivier: Which one. 277 00:33:28.950 --> 00:33:31.440 sarahwauters: The one where the comments are a that one. 278 00:33:31.860 --> 00:33:37.020 Isabelle Duvivier: yeah yeah there was an la Times last week, so I mean you know. 279 00:33:37.320 --> 00:33:42.210 sarahwauters: I don't understand what it takes to get these people, though I wake up and smell the coffee like. 280 00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:49.770 Isabelle Duvivier: yeah yeah I just felt like we had had a bad first experience with them, so I didn't want to keep pestering them about it. 281 00:33:50.550 --> 00:34:00.420 Isabelle Duvivier: And there's certainly a lot of work to do, around the perimeter, not to mention the outside the second grant proposal, and you can see the tax there. 282 00:34:01.080 --> 00:34:13.650 Isabelle Duvivier: For this grant proposal is for tabor court, this is the one we would be doing in partnership with the dnc that we are on the schedule for the dnc I think on Monday they're going to have a special. 283 00:34:14.400 --> 00:34:24.450 Isabelle Duvivier: A special meeting to approve the support of this project, and this is to continue planting native plants along tabor court I think that's the only picture I have yeah. 284 00:34:25.440 --> 00:34:34.500 Isabelle Duvivier: Of that, and I think most of you are familiar with tabor court that's the alley that's adjacent irwin parallel to Abbot kinney. 285 00:34:35.340 --> 00:34:53.070 Isabelle Duvivier: Where there's native plants that were planted by la sanitation this parking lot is managed by la do it, and we would replace some of the the plantings as well as remove some of those spiky succulents that are dangerous and then the third one that know Ellen I sort of briefly. 286 00:34:54.450 --> 00:35:07.290 Isabelle Duvivier: Since these applications are so easy to fill out our for the beach dunes, which we got a preliminary thumbs up from rat last week, they they also wouldn't be able to. 287 00:35:08.160 --> 00:35:16.560 Isabelle Duvivier: expressly support the project, yet, but they were really excited by it and we're very enthusiastic about it. 288 00:35:17.190 --> 00:35:24.150 Isabelle Duvivier: So i'm going to stop the share for right now we'll come back to my share screen, but the reason I wanted to discuss these is because. 289 00:35:24.540 --> 00:35:32.130 Isabelle Duvivier: We thought originally and i'm not sure if Noel your hand is still up to discuss this one or from the last discussion. 290 00:35:32.850 --> 00:35:40.140 Isabelle Duvivier: But we originally thought we would go for all three now i'm a little concerned, since this is a competitive grant. 291 00:35:40.590 --> 00:35:53.190 Isabelle Duvivier: i'd be interested to know if you guys thought one of those three seems stronger than the others if we should just go for one if we should submit all three and see which one they might pick. 292 00:35:54.480 --> 00:36:03.390 Isabelle Duvivier: Do you do you have any thoughts in Your Eminence wisdom and age about how we should go for it. 293 00:36:04.620 --> 00:36:13.650 Isabelle Duvivier: it's a competitive ground with the city so there'll be lots of other people submitting grants and we're assuming that they're going to come back to us and say. 294 00:36:15.150 --> 00:36:28.770 Isabelle Duvivier: You know, we need more information, what are you spending the money on who's you know what's the matching grant So the question is, do we go for all three do we go for to do we just put all our eggs in one basket and go for one Robin. 295 00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:43.230 Robin: So I got it la beautification grant years back to do the ballpark and it was a larger it was $10,000 at that time that you could get, which was a tiny amount of what it cost me to do the ballpark. 296 00:36:44.820 --> 00:36:50.100 Robin: I haven't looked at what their application is yet, though we may also be submitting one but um. 297 00:36:51.930 --> 00:37:01.800 Robin: They are okay at the time the first go around they did not approve our application, because they said we had so many signatures of support. 298 00:37:02.010 --> 00:37:10.530 Robin: That they thought they were not legitimate, unlike what why didn't you contact me they were all completely legitimate I had done before and after pictures. 299 00:37:10.830 --> 00:37:21.450 Robin: and put them out at my sculpture Garden on Abbot kinney and there was an advocacy festival and everybody signed it, so you know so, then they said well do come if you don't get. 300 00:37:21.870 --> 00:37:35.520 Robin: approved the first go around contact us and we can talk about it, so I did, and they were like oh okay well so we'll apply will approve you this time but meanwhile, you know, last a year there. 301 00:37:36.600 --> 00:37:39.870 Robin: So yeah you know who knows what their. 302 00:37:41.250 --> 00:37:48.300 Robin: reviewers are going to be thinking and this time around, you need to have signatures is that one of the no. 303 00:37:49.500 --> 00:37:49.980 Robin: I don't remember. 304 00:37:52.950 --> 00:37:53.310 Robin: No. 305 00:37:53.340 --> 00:37:54.720 sarahwauters: ECHO some nodding know or. 306 00:37:55.290 --> 00:37:59.220 Isabelle Duvivier: The only thing that's requested is that required is that little paragraph that. 307 00:37:59.310 --> 00:38:01.290 Isabelle Duvivier: wow i'm one of the papers yeah. 308 00:38:01.890 --> 00:38:11.760 Robin: yeah you know I don't know what to tell you, like the I finally did get mine, though, it took you know 12 years to be able to get the permits through it. 309 00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:15.360 Robin: You know each of your sound good I just I yeah. 310 00:38:18.300 --> 00:38:18.750 Robin: It. 311 00:38:19.800 --> 00:38:34.350 Robin: I don't know, maybe you know actually what I think I would suggest is call them and ask I think they do have a contact person, and I think that's the kind of thing you could call and get their feedback on so that would be my recommendation. 312 00:38:39.480 --> 00:38:40.140 Isabelle Duvivier: Michael. 313 00:38:41.040 --> 00:38:45.330 Michael McGuffin: You did say age and wisdom, so I assume that the first one is a reference to me I. 314 00:38:49.140 --> 00:38:58.350 Michael McGuffin: I I would be concerned that, if the BG submits three proposals they're not going to grant bbg more than one. 315 00:38:59.670 --> 00:39:08.610 Michael McGuffin: And I know that when you were saying we so it's the vg in cooperation with the Chamber of Commerce on the skill Center and who is it. 316 00:39:09.960 --> 00:39:16.140 Michael McGuffin: Would it be vv G and wraps at the beach and what or is it going to be bb as one of the. 317 00:39:19.410 --> 00:39:32.910 Michael McGuffin: slowest solicitors for a grant I don't look up I know which one I like best because the one I spent my time on, but I also like taper because it's already beautiful and the beach to me is the biggest challenge. 318 00:39:35.940 --> 00:39:36.240 Michael McGuffin: But. 319 00:39:37.620 --> 00:39:48.870 Michael McGuffin: If we could figure out how to put to request all three but have a different entity as the submitting organization. 320 00:39:52.020 --> 00:40:07.920 Michael McGuffin: we're still going to do the work, but I, I have to assume that they're not going to give it I don't know how many awards they have but they're not they're unlikely to give awards more than one word to one organization. 321 00:40:09.330 --> 00:40:10.140 Michael McGuffin: As my guest. 322 00:40:12.540 --> 00:40:21.030 Michael McGuffin: i'm rubbing might be right with you call them and ask them but i'm always afraid of calling and asking bureaucrats for straight answers, because I don't think they like to give straight answers. 323 00:40:23.910 --> 00:40:24.600 Isabelle Duvivier: So how. 324 00:40:24.690 --> 00:40:26.190 Noel Johnston: Can I can I speak about. 325 00:40:27.090 --> 00:40:27.750 Isabelle Duvivier: Better and. 326 00:40:27.960 --> 00:40:28.890 Isabelle Duvivier: yeah you. 327 00:40:29.250 --> 00:40:30.360 sarahwauters: know so I just have. 328 00:40:31.410 --> 00:40:31.650 Michael McGuffin: Not. 329 00:40:31.920 --> 00:40:33.060 Michael McGuffin: i'm gonna have to drop off. 330 00:40:33.060 --> 00:40:35.670 Michael McGuffin: For a while i'm going to try to join back. 331 00:40:36.510 --> 00:40:39.030 sarahwauters: Okay, thanks, Michael thanks for your suggestions. 332 00:40:40.110 --> 00:40:45.300 sarahwauters: i'm so so actually this was kind of a question for Michael but it's Okay, I think it's about you. 333 00:40:47.010 --> 00:40:57.780 sarahwauters: What was the what was what What did you actually say in the grant for this skill Center would be our primary focus what were we going to do there. 334 00:41:00.210 --> 00:41:07.830 Noel Johnston: So Sarah I can send you a copy of that if you'd like or I can fish around and read it to you now. 335 00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:13.410 sarahwauters: Well, just one sentence, I mean you must know off the top of your head what what. 336 00:41:13.620 --> 00:41:20.970 Michael McGuffin: Their plant trees and plants southern California native trees and shrubs on all four sides in the parkway. 337 00:41:21.690 --> 00:41:24.210 Michael McGuffin: Okay excellent to maintain. 338 00:41:24.900 --> 00:41:40.740 sarahwauters: excellent, and so, so the 20 $500 we did not discuss, and this, I think, is part of the strategy that we're, we have to match the grant, and so we have to raise money in the Community, in order to match this grant isn't that correct. 339 00:41:42.180 --> 00:41:42.810 Noel Johnston: With that. 340 00:41:43.680 --> 00:41:46.860 Noel Johnston: Or what with Michael and I have ours matched. 341 00:41:47.160 --> 00:41:50.100 Isabelle Duvivier: Yes, it's a 25% match it easy to do. 342 00:41:50.550 --> 00:42:00.840 sarahwauters: it's a 25% match Oh, I thought it was 100% match okay that's fine and the skill Center when you have matched because vg already has some funds that I brought in. 343 00:42:01.470 --> 00:42:03.420 Michael McGuffin: We got an anonymous donors, yes. 344 00:42:03.690 --> 00:42:04.530 Noel Johnston: Additional funds. 345 00:42:05.160 --> 00:42:06.900 sarahwauters: Oh fantastic that's great. 346 00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:19.410 sarahwauters: Okay, so God you guys must have been hard at work well as well and I were away that's wonderful so then um so do we have matching grants for the second one for the tape report, one. 347 00:42:23.820 --> 00:42:24.120 sarahwauters: yeah. 348 00:42:24.990 --> 00:42:25.350 Isabelle Duvivier: Yes. 349 00:42:25.380 --> 00:42:33.840 Michael McGuffin: When I go back to that same anonymous donor and if only one of the grants granted inquire as to whether funding would be available. 350 00:42:33.960 --> 00:42:35.430 sarahwauters: as possible from them okay. 351 00:42:36.270 --> 00:42:36.690 Michael McGuffin: Let me. 352 00:42:37.140 --> 00:42:57.990 sarahwauters: Right, I mean, I think that that we definitely should have a different a different organization apply with each of these grants, if possible, we have at least bbg now with regard to bb I think we can we can step forward as far as long as the dnc approves it. 353 00:42:59.010 --> 00:43:10.770 sarahwauters: Right so we've got two different organizations down for the third do you guys have any suggestions like is there, another organization that we're part of that would work. 354 00:43:12.450 --> 00:43:12.960 Robin: On something. 355 00:43:13.440 --> 00:43:19.500 Isabelle Duvivier: But no, I was also waiting to speak with Robin are you going to answer sarah's question, or do you have something to say. 356 00:43:20.070 --> 00:43:25.440 Robin: Well i'm going to say something regarding I think your third one is you're talking about doing in partnership with reckon parks. 357 00:43:25.530 --> 00:43:35.160 Robin: mm hmm so I also have experience in doing planting project with reckon parks, that was for the median and then I also did one for centennial park. 358 00:43:35.670 --> 00:43:48.090 Robin: And my experience there perhaps it helps is reckon parks actually did the Labor and they wanted to they wanted it that way, and I just provided the plants so. 359 00:43:49.830 --> 00:43:50.850 Robin: But we did have to. 360 00:43:50.850 --> 00:43:51.420 Noel Johnston: Have. 361 00:43:51.480 --> 00:43:53.340 Robin: Like everything signed off on. 362 00:43:54.360 --> 00:44:00.330 Robin: In order to have that done so in case that helps to know that whatever. 363 00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:02.190 sarahwauters: Okay, thank you. 364 00:44:03.660 --> 00:44:04.800 sarahwauters: Okay, no i'll. 365 00:44:08.370 --> 00:44:09.240 Isabelle Duvivier: you're muted. 366 00:44:14.490 --> 00:44:16.560 Isabelle Duvivier: Did you want to speak you're muted. 367 00:44:20.430 --> 00:44:22.440 Isabelle Duvivier: So I guess we'll come back to her. 368 00:44:24.540 --> 00:44:26.310 Isabelle Duvivier: Do I need to ask to unmute. 369 00:44:28.710 --> 00:44:41.700 Isabelle Duvivier: Our fearless leader, oh no i'm so so you guys think it's okay to just submit all three or, I guess, we can, tomorrow, we can callers Monday we can call but. 370 00:44:42.870 --> 00:44:48.510 Noel Johnston: As well i'm i'm sorry about that I got a telephone call from a dancer. 371 00:44:49.770 --> 00:44:58.710 Noel Johnston: I I do think that it's that it's probably okay to submit all all three two of them at least two of them are coming from different. 372 00:44:59.430 --> 00:45:00.750 Noel Johnston: entity, so I. 373 00:45:01.170 --> 00:45:18.450 Noel Johnston: Think it's okay and i'm i'm a little unclear Robin probably knows more about this than I do exactly how they're judging this I mean is this, it looks to me like Michael you probably took a look at this as well, it looks to me like they're they're favoring indigenous communities. 374 00:45:18.750 --> 00:45:24.060 Noel Johnston: And the most indigent area that we're talking about certainly skill Center. 375 00:45:24.630 --> 00:45:26.370 Noel Johnston: I mean that that is. 376 00:45:29.370 --> 00:45:31.860 Noel Johnston: that's a real that truly is a neglected. 377 00:45:32.340 --> 00:45:34.800 Noel Johnston: area within within Venice and. 378 00:45:35.400 --> 00:45:41.880 Noel Johnston: it's hostile in its own community, so I I I think I think tape record is great, and I, and I. 379 00:45:42.570 --> 00:45:51.690 Noel Johnston: Personally I love working on tape record and it's I think it's it's satisfying to work on, and I think it is attractive now i'm can be more attractive. 380 00:45:52.500 --> 00:46:00.240 Noel Johnston: Due to our ministrations but, but I would not say that I think it's indigent it's right there next to arrow on and it's got it it's. 381 00:46:00.960 --> 00:46:18.300 Noel Johnston: groundings are you know I would say upscale the beach is is such a huge a huge entity that I don't know how interesting they're going to be in that will remain to be seen, I don't know how interested The city is in the beach, you know. 382 00:46:19.140 --> 00:46:22.740 sarahwauters: I now that we're talking about the beach Noel would be. 383 00:46:23.880 --> 00:46:25.620 sarahwauters: The front i'm sorry. 384 00:46:26.670 --> 00:46:35.550 sarahwauters: The the each frank Walker the boardwalk committee be interested in sponsoring math I mean that does kind of make sense. 385 00:46:37.410 --> 00:46:41.700 Noel Johnston: I hate to say this because i'm on the ocean front walk committee but. 386 00:46:42.330 --> 00:47:01.230 Noel Johnston: I don't think that the ocean front walk committee this is current version has been real effective in their in their motions I don't even know I don't know what's happened to a bunch of their Martians so i've kind of lost i've lost a little faith in the efficacy of that committee altogether. 387 00:47:05.730 --> 00:47:10.380 Noel Johnston: What can what else can I say here I just I don't know whether it's worth approaching them or not. 388 00:47:11.010 --> 00:47:12.030 sarahwauters: No it's good to be fresh. 389 00:47:12.390 --> 00:47:19.830 Isabelle Duvivier: We have a new person on the call Hello new person would you like to introduce yourself. 390 00:47:25.260 --> 00:47:25.950 Isabelle Duvivier: I think. 391 00:47:26.220 --> 00:47:28.020 sarahwauters: You did yeah they're muted. 392 00:47:29.100 --> 00:47:36.660 Isabelle Duvivier: So, if you would like we'd love to hear from you um alright, well, I think that answers that question well. 393 00:47:36.840 --> 00:47:41.850 Isabelle Duvivier: yeah i'm still trying to see if I can help them on mute but. 394 00:47:43.380 --> 00:47:50.160 Robin: I just to make sure i'm clear with you all, so you know I started this other ad hoc committee the preserving public places. 395 00:47:50.490 --> 00:47:52.830 Robin: And we too are probably submitting. 396 00:47:54.000 --> 00:47:59.460 Robin: A beautification grant just so you know but, and I think with regard to noel's question. 397 00:48:00.690 --> 00:48:10.710 Robin: I think that beautification committee looks at all of La, and so they may want to choose, you know one from Venice one from you know. 398 00:48:11.010 --> 00:48:12.450 Robin: he's still a you know they may. 399 00:48:12.510 --> 00:48:26.340 Robin: Look at that kind of diversity, but I think you should apply, and I think the idea of having come from different entities that you work with sounds good and give them a try, because who knows what their criteria is. 400 00:48:26.940 --> 00:48:27.510 yeah. 401 00:48:29.160 --> 00:48:30.930 sarahwauters: yeah I think it's also. 402 00:48:32.190 --> 00:48:45.450 sarahwauters: I think it's also instructive for us that if, if this is the type of thing that we'd like to do we could start applying for grants elsewhere and i'm sure Robin you did a lot of grant applications, when you did the ballpark i'm sure it was. 403 00:48:45.780 --> 00:48:47.850 Robin: nope that was more like that. 404 00:48:49.470 --> 00:48:50.700 Robin: anonymous donor. 405 00:48:50.790 --> 00:48:51.360 sarahwauters: Oh, I see. 406 00:48:52.260 --> 00:48:52.500 Is. 407 00:48:53.970 --> 00:48:57.390 Robin: Maybe $100,000 on projects in Venice but. 408 00:48:58.770 --> 00:49:00.540 sarahwauters: Oh, my gosh okay well. 409 00:49:01.380 --> 00:49:02.190 sarahwauters: But in any of that. 410 00:49:02.790 --> 00:49:17.550 Robin: And i'd have to say so, the application used to be really a bear if it's not now that's great but yeah my experience with these grants are that they can be such a hassle to do that it's just much easier to pay for it myself. 411 00:49:18.420 --> 00:49:26.820 sarahwauters: yeah you know I get I get I also hear that as well, so if if anyone is interested in exploring the grants market. 412 00:49:27.600 --> 00:49:35.880 sarahwauters: The grant you know sort of world out there i'm sure there are other things available that we could come up with, especially as you point out. 413 00:49:36.540 --> 00:49:45.810 sarahwauters: Noel with regard to that skill Center because let's face it, if it really does get beautified it is going to benefit the students who go there. 414 00:49:46.200 --> 00:50:01.740 sarahwauters: And, and so that's something really to think about um you know the mystery of what's going on at the skill Center and really who they're serving is you know still kind of shrouded but, but I do think that that's that's a good point. 415 00:50:03.150 --> 00:50:10.410 sarahwauters: Okay does anyone else have any other I don't think we need to do any emotions at this point for the grants Is that correct. 416 00:50:13.110 --> 00:50:13.680 sarahwauters: Isabel. 417 00:50:15.900 --> 00:50:16.980 Noel Johnston: Isabel you're muted. 418 00:50:17.490 --> 00:50:19.560 Isabelle Duvivier: I know, but I was shaking my head. 419 00:50:19.620 --> 00:50:20.760 sarahwauters: No okay okay. 420 00:50:20.820 --> 00:50:29.340 sarahwauters: Great excellent okay that head shaking I didn't see it because you're not on my screen okay so um tree inventory, so we talked about that now. 421 00:50:32.460 --> 00:50:32.820 sarahwauters: Oh. 422 00:50:33.060 --> 00:50:35.010 Isabelle Duvivier: i'm going to share my screen again. 423 00:50:35.160 --> 00:50:35.880 sarahwauters: Okay, great. 424 00:50:35.940 --> 00:50:49.140 Isabelle Duvivier: And i'm going to tell you about so they finally finished the Venice tree inventory, these are the results of the inventory and urban forestry is going to be presenting in June to the V nc. 425 00:50:49.680 --> 00:50:59.850 Isabelle Duvivier: they're going to be allowed, I think, five minutes to present and I think Jim said they won't be able to have a dialogue with the Community, because that would take too long. 426 00:51:02.670 --> 00:51:12.240 Isabelle Duvivier: So i'm not sure, so I guess they're going to present for like five or 10 minutes, but you can see our number one tree is the Mexican fan palm. 427 00:51:13.890 --> 00:51:17.070 Isabelle Duvivier: And number two is the Queen palm. 428 00:51:18.150 --> 00:51:19.050 Isabelle Duvivier: And number. 429 00:51:20.550 --> 00:51:23.700 Isabelle Duvivier: You know number five is the King palm. 430 00:51:23.820 --> 00:51:25.620 sarahwauters: Where are you looking at you're looking at. 431 00:51:25.830 --> 00:51:25.950 The. 432 00:51:27.510 --> 00:51:42.540 Isabelle Duvivier: bar yeah so we don't really have a ton of shade, we have a lot of trees, which is great, we have 1000 trees, we have a 12% vacancy rate, which is, you see, in that pie chart. 433 00:51:43.740 --> 00:52:05.460 Isabelle Duvivier: So we have basically 3000 spots where we could plant trees, according to the inventory and i'll give you another look at that this is comparing to some other neighborhoods so mar vista has 10,000 trees to our 3000 they have a 25% vacancy. 434 00:52:06.630 --> 00:52:09.210 Isabelle Duvivier: And then valley village in the valley has. 435 00:52:11.010 --> 00:52:15.570 Isabelle Duvivier: You know, fewer than us, and they have a larger vacancy rate. 436 00:52:17.700 --> 00:52:19.560 Isabelle Duvivier: That they have 400. 437 00:52:20.760 --> 00:52:25.500 Isabelle Duvivier: vacant sites that are 10 foot or wider that's number right here. 438 00:52:25.710 --> 00:52:37.680 Isabelle Duvivier: wow, whereas we if I go back you can see that we only have seven vacant sites that are 10 foot or wider So these are just really interesting things to compare to. 439 00:52:38.370 --> 00:52:46.110 Isabelle Duvivier: And this is useful to us, because if you actually go to the inventory and I just took some screenshots but it's alive. 440 00:52:46.980 --> 00:52:57.870 Isabelle Duvivier: it's live, and I have a few screenshots here, so I can go through it really quickly, I mean you can see the blue dots are where they declared their to be vacant sites and the red are the stops. 441 00:52:59.040 --> 00:53:03.780 Isabelle Duvivier: So you can see roses, quite a few stumps and a few vacant spots. 442 00:53:04.950 --> 00:53:21.960 Isabelle Duvivier: Some of the streets north of roads have large number of vacancies indiana still has a lot of aiken spots so it's useful to see to look at your neighborhood and if michaels here, this is a close up around the skill Center. 443 00:53:23.880 --> 00:53:33.720 Isabelle Duvivier: You can see some of our folks that were planted are here, a lot of our trees on indiana are here, but then I want to show Michael his neighborhood. 444 00:53:34.200 --> 00:53:43.140 Isabelle Duvivier: So michaels neighborhood so we had a 30% vacancy rate and we've talked about this before, but it's one of the lower vacancy rates in the city of La. 445 00:53:43.830 --> 00:53:56.580 Isabelle Duvivier: But the reason it's so low is because we have so many places where you can't actually plant a tree, and you can see, all of this neighborhood where Michael lives there are no trees plant that are planted apple. 446 00:53:57.210 --> 00:54:08.130 Isabelle Duvivier: And that's also true of the street, where I live, and Linden so there's a lot of streets in ella in Venice, where you couldn't even plant a tree so just food for thought. 447 00:54:08.370 --> 00:54:14.280 sarahwauters: Does it does the inventory indicate canopy coverage because. 448 00:54:14.340 --> 00:54:19.770 Isabelle Duvivier: It has it has it does, but there is a better site, which was the site, I think I showed. 449 00:54:19.800 --> 00:54:26.970 Isabelle Duvivier: You Sarah when we the the lidar data, so you can look at Council districts. 450 00:54:27.270 --> 00:54:27.660 Right. 451 00:54:28.710 --> 00:54:33.870 sarahwauters: I mean the reason why I say this because I think the 12% vacancy rate is kind of misleading. 452 00:54:34.920 --> 00:54:35.430 Isabelle Duvivier: Totally. 453 00:54:35.490 --> 00:54:37.290 sarahwauters: As as you were showing like. 454 00:54:38.070 --> 00:54:48.870 Isabelle Duvivier: 30% yeah, but what is interesting, is it shows the Eco benefits, so they actually can calculate based on the tree size, when you go in Oh, this is the thing I wanted to show you. 455 00:54:49.320 --> 00:54:56.580 Isabelle Duvivier: You can click on a tree see that little red star I clicked on that tree and it popped up this information on that tree. 456 00:54:57.630 --> 00:55:04.290 Isabelle Duvivier: And that tree was a tree i'd been wondering about it's right across the street from gold's gym in front of the lofts there. 457 00:55:04.530 --> 00:55:10.590 Isabelle Duvivier: And right now it's got these little pretty white flowers and I just didn't know what it was so I went there and checked it out and. 458 00:55:10.890 --> 00:55:21.480 Isabelle Duvivier: If you click on this little eyeball you can get as a picture of it it'll take you to the Google map, so you can see a picture of it, it tells you what the db h's, which is the. 459 00:55:21.990 --> 00:55:35.190 Isabelle Duvivier: The the diameter of brass tight, which is how they measure all trees and then based on that information they calculate the greenhouse gas benefits the water benefits the energy benefits so. 460 00:55:36.120 --> 00:55:43.740 Isabelle Duvivier: Even though we only have half of our trees counted in the city of La it's a 90 million ECO benefit per year. 461 00:55:44.250 --> 00:55:46.470 Isabelle Duvivier: wow pretty significant. 462 00:55:46.950 --> 00:55:49.110 sarahwauters: that's amazing yeah. 463 00:55:49.170 --> 00:55:59.160 Isabelle Duvivier: So that's why i'm so excited about the inventory and you know, and the fact that they've finished ours so unless you have questions i'm going to stop the share. 464 00:55:59.460 --> 00:56:07.020 sarahwauters: wait before you go, I just want everyone to notice so on sunset avenue all of our little baby oak trees are there. 465 00:56:11.220 --> 00:56:17.310 sarahwauters: So they counted those trees and they didn't outlaw them because they weren't allowed, which is great. 466 00:56:20.550 --> 00:56:26.130 Isabelle Duvivier: yeah these were the tree police, these were you know this was a consulting firm a. 467 00:56:26.130 --> 00:56:26.970 sarahwauters: Car right. 468 00:56:27.060 --> 00:56:30.840 Isabelle Duvivier: The way let's click on it you'll see it says one inch gbh so. 469 00:56:31.080 --> 00:56:32.790 sarahwauters: yeah so the little trees. 470 00:56:32.910 --> 00:56:37.110 Robin: yeah So these are our street trees right they don't do anything for private property. 471 00:56:37.890 --> 00:56:40.950 Isabelle Duvivier: No, but interesting enough they didn't have tabor court. 472 00:56:41.490 --> 00:56:51.210 Isabelle Duvivier: They have, it also has the parks, all the city parks, but if they don't have la do T le which is weird. 473 00:56:52.050 --> 00:56:54.060 sarahwauters: So this this consulting group. 474 00:56:55.260 --> 00:57:00.660 sarahwauters: Robin was when when were they contracted to do this as well, several years ago right. 475 00:57:01.380 --> 00:57:04.650 Isabelle Duvivier: yeah they've been working on it for about a year, a little more than a year. 476 00:57:05.280 --> 00:57:15.480 sarahwauters: yeah and the city, I mean you have a sense, I think, a better sense than I do, of course, of what the city intends to do with the inventory. 477 00:57:17.970 --> 00:57:26.430 Isabelle Duvivier: I don't know that the city knows what they're going to do with inventory it's just a way to keep track of our trees that's the first step to knowing what we have. 478 00:57:27.870 --> 00:57:33.930 Isabelle Duvivier: If, for example, if we, here in this group want to see where there's a toy on planted in the city of La. 479 00:57:34.260 --> 00:57:45.810 Isabelle Duvivier: Because we wonder if there's a great example of a toy on as a tree, not a shrub you can actually you know you can search on this website for toy ions and you can look at find out where they are. 480 00:57:46.230 --> 00:57:55.650 Isabelle Duvivier: And then you can go visit them, which is really cool super cool i'm going to stop the share because I also can't see if there's anybody waiting to attend, no, there is not. 481 00:57:57.000 --> 00:58:00.900 Robin: that's a really cool site and your explanation of it brings. 482 00:58:00.930 --> 00:58:01.920 Robin: brings it to life. 483 00:58:01.980 --> 00:58:06.180 Robin: So yeah like share it everywhere that's great. 484 00:58:07.440 --> 00:58:15.720 Isabelle Duvivier: Well, urban forestry will be bringing this to the dnc So hopefully there'll be interested enough to ask some smart questions. 485 00:58:16.920 --> 00:58:27.780 Isabelle Duvivier: Since Jim ends up being the resident tree guy everybody else to first him and they all act like they don't care so hopefully this might excite some of the. 486 00:58:28.140 --> 00:58:35.880 Robin: i'm sure it's not i'm not sure it's an act I just I am just shocked always by how many people do not know the benefits of trees and. 487 00:58:37.140 --> 00:58:48.600 Robin: Well, you know as a bell when you build a house like how many people really think about it, and think about how much they can save on energy by having trees in the right positions and so yeah I think. 488 00:58:48.990 --> 00:58:58.950 Robin: i'm your explanation of it is great and kind of showing those measures, I think, will maybe wake up a few people that just don't think. 489 00:58:59.250 --> 00:58:59.820 hmm. 490 00:59:01.530 --> 00:59:18.090 sarahwauters: yeah that's great I really appreciate you showing it to us, and that the fact that all of the trees that we planted are reflected there is quite gratifying um so does anybody else have any comments or questions about that before we move on to the next subject matter it's me. 491 00:59:20.670 --> 00:59:26.580 sarahwauters: Okay, that sounds like a no um so Lincoln is our next subject matter and. 492 00:59:27.600 --> 00:59:36.900 sarahwauters: Evan kurgan is with us today, and he sits on the transportation committee the parking and transportation committee and. 493 00:59:37.500 --> 00:59:46.650 sarahwauters: Presently, there is a drive to improve the transportation along Lincoln I believe it's called Lincoln fast forward. 494 00:59:47.190 --> 01:00:05.850 sarahwauters: And Evan is working together with several different agencies so Evan are you are you able to share with us what's going on there, and maybe show us some of the work you did with respect to possibly planting a number of trees, as part of that make an improvement. 495 01:00:07.380 --> 01:00:09.600 Evan Corrigan: Definitely, so can you see my screen. 496 01:00:09.900 --> 01:00:10.890 sarahwauters: Yes, we can. 497 01:00:12.750 --> 01:00:26.490 Evan Corrigan: um so the CD 11 it's working with la to T and caltrans so has caltrans gives Lincoln back to the city and good working order they're going to. 498 01:00:27.690 --> 01:00:30.180 Evan Corrigan: repay that put in some. 499 01:00:31.560 --> 01:00:34.620 Evan Corrigan: crosswalks like you know kind of signal crosswalks. 500 01:00:36.450 --> 01:00:41.850 Evan Corrigan: And a bus only lane during Russia our times on North and South. 501 01:00:48.090 --> 01:00:51.450 Evan Corrigan: So we you know I think they're kind of moving forward with. 502 01:00:54.780 --> 01:00:56.010 Evan Corrigan: Oh shoot. 503 01:00:58.050 --> 01:01:06.450 Evan Corrigan: Sorry guys an electrician just came here, this is his time ago can we skip can we can we like do this after another agenda item. 504 01:01:06.720 --> 01:01:07.380 sarahwauters: yeah sure. 505 01:01:07.530 --> 01:01:08.850 Evan Corrigan: that's fine i'm so sorry. 506 01:01:10.290 --> 01:01:11.010 No worries. 507 01:01:12.090 --> 01:01:16.560 sarahwauters: Okay, the next agenda item is Venice boulevard west of Lincoln. 508 01:01:17.970 --> 01:01:28.200 sarahwauters: It looks like whether we're in for a status, update and I don't know who you had giving that status update is about was that you was that someone else. 509 01:01:30.930 --> 01:01:31.830 Isabelle Duvivier: Can you hear me. 510 01:01:32.220 --> 01:01:46.680 Isabelle Duvivier: Yes, okay yeah I was just going to share with you one six so was this West or east of Lincoln well west of Lincoln is Noel and she seems to have dropped off the call. 511 01:01:47.790 --> 01:01:50.070 sarahwauters: or something else that she had to do Oh, let me take my. 512 01:01:51.060 --> 01:01:53.100 Noel Johnston: i'm here, but I shouldn't be. 513 01:01:54.120 --> 01:01:54.450 Isabelle Duvivier: Okay. 514 01:01:56.370 --> 01:01:56.880 i'm having. 515 01:01:58.110 --> 01:01:59.880 Noel Johnston: i'm having a sewer problem. 516 01:02:02.280 --> 01:02:05.190 sarahwauters: It seems to be the the bad luck of houses day. 517 01:02:06.990 --> 01:02:09.360 Noel Johnston: Whatever i'm here for a minute. 518 01:02:09.690 --> 01:02:13.020 sarahwauters: Okay, so give us a status update on what's going on West of Lincoln. 519 01:02:14.220 --> 01:02:15.240 Noel Johnston: Last of Lincoln. 520 01:02:15.600 --> 01:02:20.100 Isabelle Duvivier: What are your plans for link for Lincoln of Venice boulevard. 521 01:02:21.120 --> 01:02:22.740 sarahwauters: Venice boulevard west of Lincoln. 522 01:02:22.740 --> 01:02:26.820 Noel Johnston: starring well are we are we talking about the farmers market. 523 01:02:27.990 --> 01:02:30.870 Isabelle Duvivier: know the rest of link and the rest of Venice. 524 01:02:32.400 --> 01:02:33.000 Noel Johnston: well. 525 01:02:33.780 --> 01:02:44.670 Isabelle Duvivier: I guess, we should have warned you we put this on the agenda, I put this on the agenda you in the past, you have you have mentioned that Venice, you want to finish Venice boulevard. 526 01:02:44.850 --> 01:02:54.300 Noel Johnston: Well, I wouldn't like we still have some agro Perm do remote from a couple of trees there, there are some things along there that need some tlc but we haven't really discussed them. 527 01:02:55.320 --> 01:03:04.650 Noel Johnston: I think that that some of the medians that other groups and work done and looking pretty terrible I actually thought we might we might help some of the. 528 01:03:05.310 --> 01:03:22.080 Noel Johnston: medians up just because they look so wrong, and I know the one that rest clutter was working on his suffering he's been very he's been busy lately um I would you know, I would like to remote some of those sycamores I think. 529 01:03:23.940 --> 01:03:32.850 Noel Johnston: i'm worried about them, because I know that the rainy season is now over, and nothing that nothing got much water along there, which is a shame. 530 01:03:35.610 --> 01:03:36.300 Noel Johnston: I would. 531 01:03:40.200 --> 01:03:49.320 Noel Johnston: I, and again I, this is probably not the form to bring this up, but I am worried about the the sprinkling of equipment around the farmers market we're. 532 01:03:49.770 --> 01:04:03.540 Noel Johnston: Trying to do some small repairs on it, but we can't do everything over there, so that would be what i'm thinking of a long tennis ball bar, which is actually too much less to handle. 533 01:04:04.410 --> 01:04:18.720 sarahwauters: So, so the only question I have is that those mediums that are farther East from Abbot kinney which I think is what you're referring to all of them do look a little rough and they look like they haven't been watered and a lot of. 534 01:04:19.290 --> 01:04:23.100 Noel Johnston: What you're talking about is too bad, but Kenny i'm strictly talking about Western bad. 535 01:04:23.400 --> 01:04:24.960 sarahwauters: Oh, you are okay okay. 536 01:04:26.190 --> 01:04:35.340 sarahwauters: Although since west of Lincoln does include those areas I have a question have we ever interacted with kiss the ground at all with regard to. 537 01:04:36.780 --> 01:04:44.790 sarahwauters: Working together with them to beautify the mediums that are close to their their garden there in front of bronze beyond Baroque mm hmm. 538 01:04:45.660 --> 01:04:47.070 Isabelle Duvivier: I think that's a great idea. 539 01:04:48.180 --> 01:04:49.650 Isabelle Duvivier: I think that's a great idea yeah. 540 01:04:49.710 --> 01:04:51.780 Isabelle Duvivier: and actually I don't I feel like Noel. 541 01:04:51.780 --> 01:05:03.270 Isabelle Duvivier: misspoke when she said she doesn't mean the medians because there aren't a lot of medians west of Abbot kinney that we're not already working in. 542 01:05:03.720 --> 01:05:15.180 Isabelle Duvivier: So I think she might have met not talking about East of Lincoln but anyway, I was bringing it up because, like you suggested, Sarah we've we've talked many times about. 543 01:05:15.990 --> 01:05:33.390 Isabelle Duvivier: Between Abbot kinney and Lincoln that those areas really need tlc there's a bunch of folks missing that have died, Jim has asked if we could replace some of them, they need mulching and then rest has been adding succulents in some of the parkways that just look really sloppy. 544 01:05:34.590 --> 01:05:43.500 Isabelle Duvivier: We could do some understory planning, so I brought I put it on the agenda to have like maybe a general discussion, I think, a partnership with cuts the grounds, a great idea. 545 01:05:44.340 --> 01:05:52.020 sarahwauters: Okay, I do know somebody who works pretty extensively with kiss the ground, not in La they they seem to be doing work. 546 01:05:53.160 --> 01:06:01.140 sarahwauters: In other cities as well, and so i'll touch base with her and see who she knows that's really doing work around here. 547 01:06:01.590 --> 01:06:10.620 sarahwauters: i'm i'm not aware of I don't know the rest of the people there, but their garden is beautiful and I know that they also. 548 01:06:12.180 --> 01:06:14.610 sarahwauters: My impression is that they work together with. 549 01:06:15.960 --> 01:06:17.550 sarahwauters: Oh gosh what's the name of the. 550 01:06:18.630 --> 01:06:19.140 sarahwauters: place. 551 01:06:19.440 --> 01:06:28.800 sarahwauters: spine spine and we're going to respond to to get that work done and they might be interested in partnering with us to to. 552 01:06:29.370 --> 01:06:39.840 sarahwauters: improve the medians there because the medians are looking pretty desperate and I think that actually Jim did say to me, Jim euro's for the benefit of all the listeners that. 553 01:06:41.070 --> 01:06:45.270 sarahwauters: There is a watering system that's supposed to be watering all of the media. 554 01:06:45.840 --> 01:06:47.730 sarahwauters: But it has not been maintained by. 555 01:06:47.730 --> 01:07:08.070 sarahwauters: The city and that might be something to really explore like if we could get a grant for that just to fix the watering system mm hmm that would really improve the lives of all of those trees along there, and you know, yes, those trees are established, but not all of them are very healthy. 556 01:07:08.460 --> 01:07:09.540 sarahwauters: As we all know. 557 01:07:09.690 --> 01:07:12.870 sarahwauters: Looking at the way they're kind of struggling through the drought. 558 01:07:14.880 --> 01:07:16.650 sarahwauters: So that's something that I have Robin. 559 01:07:17.940 --> 01:07:29.970 Robin: So I planted a bunch of the the tall grasses that are at the tip of Venice boulevard at you know from centennial park up to Abbot kinney and then going east. 560 01:07:30.330 --> 01:07:42.600 Robin: And yeah, the problem is they don't get watered regularly actually the ones at the tip grow really well, because that is not considered reckon parks, so they don't have them down to death. 561 01:07:42.900 --> 01:07:52.650 Robin: One of the big problems and Jim knows about it, too, is that we're reckon parks does have authority, they will kill plants because they hack them, apparently, they are. 562 01:07:53.130 --> 01:08:09.090 Robin: paid by how many loads of clippings they take away so they hack things to death, and so I like done a replanting in centennial park and things quite hacked to death it's very frustrating, and then they don't run the sprinklers at the right times. 563 01:08:10.260 --> 01:08:24.420 Robin: But yeah so going East from Abbot kinney there's a desperate need, and you know, there is the planting plan you guys probably have that right at him yeah so he you know, has always been very clear on wanting that to be adhered to. 564 01:08:25.440 --> 01:08:43.350 Robin: But yeah it looks really scraggly and horrible one other thing i'll just mention to you words of warning some moron stole the timer solar timer that I had bought and was installed at my ballpark, and so we can't run our sprinklers. 565 01:08:43.650 --> 01:08:44.790 Robin: Because we don't have. 566 01:08:45.510 --> 01:08:57.600 Robin: You know the automatic timer so the craziest things are still going on, I mean that was stolen a few months back, but so you know yeah sprinkler heads get stolen all around Venice. 567 01:08:59.040 --> 01:09:05.490 Robin: it's crazy this stuff goes on, but yeah I think it would be great to improve those plantings. 568 01:09:08.580 --> 01:09:21.090 Isabelle Duvivier: Not in that same vein it'd be great if we could have a mulch pile down there somewhere, and I was speaking to some do T guys and they suggested in the spark parking lot. 569 01:09:21.630 --> 01:09:39.000 Isabelle Duvivier: Behind the fire station there's a corner area where there's only some sand to the nobody could park there and that may be, I mean, I wonder if we could just do a dump there and see if do T complains about it. 570 01:09:41.070 --> 01:09:41.400 Isabelle Duvivier: or. 571 01:09:41.460 --> 01:09:42.660 sarahwauters: VIP land. 572 01:09:43.170 --> 01:09:55.710 Isabelle Duvivier: Yes, the do T parking lot and in the past when we did it at the farmers market we just dumped it there and it took him about two weeks to complain and then we were able to get rid of it right away. 573 01:09:58.290 --> 01:10:14.490 Isabelle Duvivier: So if we decided to do some work days over there in the summer, like that's kind of good summer work to do, because we really can't plan a lot, maybe we do mulch dump there and then just plan on trying to get rid of it as quick as we can, even if do to sort of. 574 01:10:15.660 --> 01:10:23.610 Isabelle Duvivier: Both a little bit will have at least accomplished what we needed to do, which was to get that those areas mulch for the summer. 575 01:10:24.120 --> 01:10:28.590 sarahwauters: So this is, I don't know i'm not familiar with the location that you're talking. 576 01:10:28.590 --> 01:10:33.540 sarahwauters: about this would be for mulching east of Abbot kinney and West. 577 01:10:34.140 --> 01:10:35.310 Isabelle Duvivier: yeah okay. 578 01:10:36.060 --> 01:10:41.280 Robin: I also have experienced with a few years back, I hired a kids through spy. 579 01:10:41.700 --> 01:10:51.210 Robin: know this before they started that garden over there, so they used to come and help me with weeding out in centennial park after I had done the beautification there. 580 01:10:52.530 --> 01:11:00.990 Robin: So what I would recommend it if you want is good just go over there they're over there, working a lot of the time. 581 01:11:02.280 --> 01:11:20.070 Robin: By beyond broke and just talk to people right there and ask them who you might talk to they had a policy at one point of only working on edibles I think that's not necessarily the case i've also had the experience of working hiring people through. 582 01:11:21.270 --> 01:11:31.380 Robin: Stan Mohammed, who is now in the neighborhood Council, he has a group called Venice 2000 and I hired them to plant some of the median portions. 583 01:11:32.430 --> 01:11:49.620 Robin: years back thing to know about planting on the media and, of course, is it, it can be treacherous you have to be you know, everybody has to be wearing a vest and it's it's dangerous out there drivers are lunatics and drive fast alone Venice boulevard so um. 584 01:11:50.970 --> 01:11:51.450 Robin: You know. 585 01:11:51.480 --> 01:12:00.150 sarahwauters: yeah you probably need to have a meeting beforehand and coach everybody on safety and make sure that they're all following kind of safety protocol. 586 01:12:00.210 --> 01:12:02.730 Robin: yeah and maybe like put ropes up. 587 01:12:02.820 --> 01:12:08.310 Robin: Along the edges of the media and even and yeah just be super careful because. 588 01:12:08.850 --> 01:12:12.810 Robin: You don't want anything to happen and people drivers are just so stupid it's amazing. 589 01:12:13.350 --> 01:12:16.980 Robin: Okay, but yeah anyway, so I would just go over there, go over to. 590 01:12:18.570 --> 01:12:22.080 Robin: Beyond broke, you know, to the garden and ask them directly. 591 01:12:23.040 --> 01:12:25.620 Isabelle Duvivier: And and you're thinking to ask him about what. 592 01:12:25.740 --> 01:12:30.540 Robin: Robin if you want them to help with the actual work of planting. 593 01:12:30.870 --> 01:12:32.310 sarahwauters: yeah I was thinking that. 594 01:12:32.400 --> 01:12:36.690 sarahwauters: Those see the see have drive those mediums look. 595 01:12:36.840 --> 01:12:38.430 Isabelle Duvivier: yeah here oh yeah. 596 01:12:39.270 --> 01:12:45.120 sarahwauters: They look so dry, I mean really the first thing we should try to work on is I need to talk to. 597 01:12:46.260 --> 01:13:00.150 sarahwauters: Jim about where are the watering systems and and then we have to look and see if we can actually water those those areas if we can water them then it's worth doing so understory planting. 598 01:13:00.420 --> 01:13:00.840 Isabelle Duvivier: um. 599 01:13:00.870 --> 01:13:06.180 sarahwauters: But can't water them, then I think it's worth at least mulching at the bottom of the trees. 600 01:13:06.420 --> 01:13:06.990 hmm. 601 01:13:09.300 --> 01:13:13.590 sarahwauters: Right and so, though, that medium that's right across from the same place for you. 602 01:13:14.040 --> 01:13:26.070 sarahwauters: hmm That would be a natural place for us to to say to the folks if you're on the road, would you like to work together with us, we have a volunteer force that you know numbers. 603 01:13:26.790 --> 01:13:36.060 sarahwauters: Know anywhere from 10 to 15 and we'd love it if you guys would join together with us and work on mulching the trees and that media and and trying to unify the media. 604 01:13:37.020 --> 01:13:42.360 Isabelle Duvivier: Right across the way this is the area where I thought we could put the mulch right there. 605 01:13:42.600 --> 01:13:43.350 sarahwauters: right idea. 606 01:13:43.440 --> 01:13:44.340 Isabelle Duvivier: That it's like. 607 01:13:45.420 --> 01:14:02.820 Isabelle Duvivier: it's dirt, this is what the do to guy recommended it's kind of out of the way we tried to get permission to put mall chair and that didn't work, so if we were to do it, we would just do it and have it out of there as quick as possible. 608 01:14:02.970 --> 01:14:06.480 sarahwauters: So that's awesome so who usually parks there. 609 01:14:07.260 --> 01:14:11.370 Isabelle Duvivier: There their public lot see they've got a lot number it's. 610 01:14:11.400 --> 01:14:11.850 sarahwauters: it's. 611 01:14:12.120 --> 01:14:23.430 Isabelle Duvivier: A unity it's free parking I think it's like 10 our parking it city parking it might be for these these businesses here it's probably for spark it's just public parking right. 612 01:14:23.490 --> 01:14:39.750 Robin: Well, yes, some of it is definitely sparks and I actually with the preserving public places have been trying to get a dialogue with spark because they have been blockading it so that nobody could park and now that, like the. 613 01:14:41.190 --> 01:14:57.660 Robin: Pacific resident theatre starting up again, you know these spark parking spaces right beside spark there's no I don't know of any good reason why they have them blockaded so that nobody can park there but yeah I think your plan to just go put it there. 614 01:14:57.900 --> 01:15:00.120 Robin: That makes the most sense and. 615 01:15:01.170 --> 01:15:06.900 Robin: You know if spark dares to complain on tell me that's just you know it's. 616 01:15:07.200 --> 01:15:11.790 Isabelle Duvivier: They have that building for them, I would worry about do to to. 617 01:15:11.910 --> 01:15:23.430 Isabelle Duvivier: Have it out of there really quick so right, and they were pretty nice about that last time they're just worried that we're going to park it there, and leave it there forever, but we would you know in two weekends, we could have it all use that. 618 01:15:23.490 --> 01:15:38.130 Robin: right that sounds like a perfect plan and also do you know who controls it's not record parks that controls the media, it may be like bureau of engineering or street services or whatever they're called they're the ones that control the median. 619 01:15:39.360 --> 01:15:40.590 sarahwauters: on the street services. 620 01:15:42.120 --> 01:15:45.810 sarahwauters: Like who who controls the park ways that we plant in. 621 01:15:46.830 --> 01:15:51.630 Isabelle Duvivier: that's the city of La urban forestry bureau street services. 622 01:15:51.750 --> 01:15:53.190 sarahwauters: Right so yeah. 623 01:15:54.780 --> 01:16:00.360 Robin: yeah and I would definitely try to coordinate with them because, again, if you look at what they do. 624 01:16:01.740 --> 01:16:05.820 Robin: They hacked out the kill things by getting them to low. 625 01:16:05.940 --> 01:16:14.760 Robin: yeah so definitely try to coordinate with them in some capacity and and I think they then have control of the watering. 626 01:16:15.900 --> 01:16:21.660 Robin: When I did the planting along Venice boulevard I only planted where there were sprinklers. 627 01:16:21.930 --> 01:16:26.190 Robin: Because you know if you plant and they're none you guys know they're not going to. 628 01:16:26.460 --> 01:16:27.930 Take huh. 629 01:16:29.070 --> 01:16:41.430 sarahwauters: yeah okay okay um well i'm wondering if our electrician has left the building. 630 01:16:42.840 --> 01:16:45.930 sarahwauters: Thank you for sharing that map as well. 631 01:16:46.020 --> 01:16:49.500 Isabelle Duvivier: Oh i'm just preparing to talk to you about west of link. 632 01:16:51.960 --> 01:16:52.170 Isabelle Duvivier: Is. 633 01:16:52.680 --> 01:16:53.940 Isabelle Duvivier: still not ready. 634 01:16:54.420 --> 01:16:54.900 sarahwauters: He isn't. 635 01:16:55.290 --> 01:16:57.000 Isabelle Duvivier: No, I don't know if he is or not. 636 01:16:59.070 --> 01:16:59.640 Isabelle Duvivier: So. 637 01:17:00.000 --> 01:17:01.380 sarahwauters: he's not raising his hand. 638 01:17:01.560 --> 01:17:05.430 Isabelle Duvivier: yeah so here is um. 639 01:17:06.450 --> 01:17:23.820 Isabelle Duvivier: So this is kind of mar vista ish I guess it's the edge of Venice right, this might be the East Venice neighborhood we have been asked by the learning garden, to help them plan some oaks in this median here and. 640 01:17:26.490 --> 01:17:34.290 Isabelle Duvivier: it's really dismal, it also has irrigation um it's really awful. 641 01:17:34.500 --> 01:17:37.140 sarahwauters: This is across from this is basically next to the high school. 642 01:17:37.260 --> 01:17:38.430 Isabelle Duvivier: yeah that's the. 643 01:17:38.430 --> 01:17:44.160 Isabelle Duvivier: street from the high school and the whole thing is really terrible so. 644 01:17:44.880 --> 01:17:47.430 Isabelle Duvivier: dry just you know I don't know. 645 01:17:48.780 --> 01:17:50.700 Isabelle Duvivier: We have ordered some trees. 646 01:17:52.110 --> 01:18:05.730 Isabelle Duvivier: But you know there's and we have to repair the irrigation we kind of need more friendly plumbers to work with us because the one that we work with he's so busy repairing all this stuff that. 647 01:18:07.680 --> 01:18:17.910 Isabelle Duvivier: You guys know any friendly pump plumbers, but anyway, I don't know that I have anything specific to say about it just that it's in the hopper it's something that we could try to loop in of nah. 648 01:18:19.260 --> 01:18:23.700 Isabelle Duvivier: Probably looping people who work at the learning garden. 649 01:18:24.960 --> 01:18:29.910 Isabelle Duvivier: We wouldn't be able to include David King because we wouldn't want to get him in trouble. 650 01:18:30.330 --> 01:18:30.750 sarahwauters: is only. 651 01:18:31.080 --> 01:18:35.700 sarahwauters: To get is David king, the person who contacted you originally. 652 01:18:35.790 --> 01:18:39.420 Isabelle Duvivier: I can't say who contacted me sorted. 653 01:18:39.450 --> 01:18:47.580 sarahwauters: yeah so um so that is the plan to order yard trees or street trees for that. 654 01:18:47.580 --> 01:18:49.770 Isabelle Duvivier: Maybe an answer that we're being recorded. 655 01:18:50.280 --> 01:18:52.290 Isabelle Duvivier: But Andrea has his hand up. 656 01:18:53.070 --> 01:18:56.850 andreas: i'm not sure whether that's irrelevant, but I think anything Easter. 657 01:18:58.050 --> 01:19:00.060 andreas: Easter ball growth is my vista. 658 01:19:00.540 --> 01:19:01.140 i'm. 659 01:19:02.850 --> 01:19:04.620 andreas: Sure, I don't know whether that's irrelevant. 660 01:19:04.860 --> 01:19:08.790 Isabelle Duvivier: yeah well, maybe that would be a good way to loop them and. 661 01:19:10.230 --> 01:19:22.800 Isabelle Duvivier: You know plenty of work to do on Venice boulevard in Venice there's this media in here this media in here, actually, I think this is the one that has a really nice bottle brush let's see, we can see it. 662 01:19:30.330 --> 01:19:34.500 Isabelle Duvivier: Now this is the mellow Luca there's a really beautiful gold rush further down. 663 01:19:35.700 --> 01:19:37.770 Isabelle Duvivier: Am I going the right direction, I think so. 664 01:19:41.310 --> 01:19:43.650 sarahwauters: yeah there are some very nice mature trees. 665 01:19:43.680 --> 01:19:46.260 Isabelle Duvivier: or yeah there's a bottle brush there's. 666 01:19:46.350 --> 01:19:53.280 sarahwauters: Oh yeah there's that's big wow i'm there are some very nice mature trees along now they're just really spaced out. 667 01:19:53.610 --> 01:20:01.830 sarahwauters: hmm there's there are quite a number of vacancies, and I think that that actually is a good point that undress makes that the Mar vista treat room. 668 01:20:03.180 --> 01:20:06.900 sarahwauters: Maybe we could you know, bring them in and we can. 669 01:20:06.900 --> 01:20:12.120 sarahwauters: work together on this, because obviously been a couple of our really is a major feeder to our neighborhood. 670 01:20:12.390 --> 01:20:18.210 sarahwauters: I drive Venice boulevard all the time, because I live, you know South in the southern part know. 671 01:20:19.050 --> 01:20:31.710 sarahwauters: So, having that beautified I mean i've often dreamed of seeing more trees along there, and so I think it's a it's a it's a great idea to put some oats in there, we need some more native trees along that stretch, and I think we should. 672 01:20:32.820 --> 01:20:39.510 sarahwauters: I think it would be a nice thing to unify together with our best to be with as a as a as a you know do a group. 673 01:20:39.930 --> 01:20:40.500 hmm. 674 01:20:41.580 --> 01:20:44.730 Isabelle Duvivier: I I got the bad news yesterday. 675 01:20:45.810 --> 01:21:03.270 Isabelle Duvivier: The marvelous arbor group meeting that the city of La is planning on narrowing the median on westwood boulevard to add another lane of traffic, so that they can have a designated bike lane designated bustling so. 676 01:21:05.370 --> 01:21:06.420 Isabelle Duvivier: Venice. 677 01:21:09.300 --> 01:21:13.710 Isabelle Duvivier: that's certainly bad news that we should probably. 678 01:21:15.720 --> 01:21:24.180 Isabelle Duvivier: should probably pay more attention to because they may try to do that on our you know in our median where we've got all of our sycamores and oaks. 679 01:21:26.340 --> 01:21:27.780 Isabelle Duvivier: And you know the real well. 680 01:21:29.040 --> 01:21:35.790 Isabelle Duvivier: If we're gonna if we're going to fight climate change it's not making more lanes it's taking more cars off the road so. 681 01:21:36.660 --> 01:21:47.910 Isabelle Duvivier: Put in a bustling great, but then eliminate a lane of traffic or put the bustling on one side with the bike paths and then put the cars on the other side, I mean they really need to just. 682 01:21:48.570 --> 01:21:58.530 Isabelle Duvivier: restructure Venice boulevard but keep all of our mature trees, because, so I don't know if anybody's interested in trying to follow up on that. 683 01:21:59.610 --> 01:22:04.950 Isabelle Duvivier: Where where the median reduction is planning to occur. 684 01:22:05.730 --> 01:22:12.690 sarahwauters: I when we find out what would that be, just like doing research into the transport folks. 685 01:22:12.750 --> 01:22:29.790 Isabelle Duvivier: yeah so I put a plea out, I mentioned that when I spoke with David King today he mentioned that he'd seen a presentation on it, and that he would get me the information, but I also heard it from the marvelous neighborhood Council. 686 01:22:30.990 --> 01:22:32.610 Isabelle Duvivier: The Green committee. 687 01:22:33.720 --> 01:22:40.380 Isabelle Duvivier: team drew drew really so it's out there, we just have to look for it. 688 01:22:40.590 --> 01:22:47.550 Robin: Okay, so how about the Robert tibbetts Oh, the or Evan you said is on the transportation committee and being. 689 01:22:47.700 --> 01:22:48.690 Isabelle Duvivier: right here yeah. 690 01:22:49.380 --> 01:22:54.540 Robin: yeah I think they should be aware of it, and we should try to lobby against that happening. 691 01:22:54.870 --> 01:22:55.500 um. 692 01:22:57.750 --> 01:23:11.760 Robin: You know it's like just ever shocking and horrifying to me that this world class city, we have has this major boulevard leading to our only beach and it looks. 693 01:23:12.900 --> 01:23:13.470 Robin: horrible. 694 01:23:14.550 --> 01:23:14.760 Isabelle Duvivier: well. 695 01:23:14.970 --> 01:23:15.810 sarahwauters: I mean it's the same. 696 01:23:16.740 --> 01:23:22.860 Robin: yeah right well, but you know this is perpendicular this goes to the beach and you're not the only one. 697 01:23:23.370 --> 01:23:39.210 Robin: That you know takes Venice boulevard every young people who live all over north and south in La either they take the 10 freeway and that leads them to Santa Monica beach, or if they're coming to Venice beach, or if they're coming to a beach of La the beach of La is only Venice beach. 698 01:23:39.720 --> 01:23:44.520 Robin: they're going to take Venice boulevard but for that stupid road diet which now has. 699 01:23:44.730 --> 01:24:03.780 Robin: You know, made it treacherous you know so now more people might take Washington, but if you look at a map of La you know Venice boulevard is a major thoroughfare that really brings people from far and wide out to the West and it's just pitiful it looks so pitiful. 700 01:24:05.220 --> 01:24:22.140 sarahwauters: It is, I agree, I mean I I think I said this last time, but you know, I was in West Hollywood i've been going to West Hollywood a lot lately for my work and some of their major major streets like Santa Monica boulevard is a major thoroughfare and it is beautiful. 701 01:24:22.200 --> 01:24:33.960 sarahwauters: Right it's beautiful it has huge mature trees that have grown in the last 10 years and they have put sculptures and gardens in their median there's no reason. 702 01:24:34.530 --> 01:24:35.970 sarahwauters: no reason why. 703 01:24:36.300 --> 01:24:37.470 Robin: there's always thought that Venice. 704 01:24:37.470 --> 01:24:41.370 Robin: boulevard should look like Santa Santa you know Santa Santa come to the beach. 705 01:24:41.640 --> 01:24:49.140 Robin: is beautiful this giant coral trees it's you know it's a jogging path, I mean it's pitiful what we have it's it's. 706 01:24:49.350 --> 01:24:59.430 sarahwauters: unconscionable I don't I don't understand why Los Angeles is so much less capable than every other small city within this county I mean it's kind of flooring. 707 01:25:00.180 --> 01:25:01.170 Robin: We don't need to. 708 01:25:01.290 --> 01:25:12.330 Robin: elect the proper CD 11 official who cares about parks and creating spaces and not somebody who you know we currently have who doesn't believe in open space and. 709 01:25:13.350 --> 01:25:14.310 Robin: That that'll help. 710 01:25:14.490 --> 01:25:18.960 Isabelle Duvivier: Are you allowed to tell us who that who that person is Robin. 711 01:25:20.010 --> 01:25:20.580 Robin: well. 712 01:25:20.670 --> 01:25:22.290 Robin: I think they're trying to date. 713 01:25:22.320 --> 01:25:24.000 Isabelle Duvivier: And I guess you probably can't yeah. 714 01:25:24.060 --> 01:25:30.930 Robin: Well, no, I think you know, I would just say, there are two candidates that have i've heard speak out a lot about having. 715 01:25:31.380 --> 01:25:36.990 Robin: You know the importance of green space and open spaces, one of them is related to me, Jim your as. 716 01:25:37.740 --> 01:25:44.610 Robin: The other is Tracy park Tracy park is a huge advocate for parks and open spaces and. 717 01:25:45.030 --> 01:25:58.920 Robin: We need to preserve, we need to fight to keep them and to get more if there's a real challenge, well, I mean bond and has tried to just do away with them, so, and you know we just really need you guys, we need this committee. 718 01:25:59.400 --> 01:26:09.210 Robin: And we need to all you know, make sure we still have open spaces and Isabel spoke last night at on that what was that meeting, we were on Luca. 719 01:26:09.840 --> 01:26:22.380 Robin: yeah his goal was excellent in bringing that up because it's just to me it's shocking how what a complete failure of urban design, there is, when they make these changes that. 720 01:26:23.430 --> 01:26:24.960 Robin: destroy our own workspace. 721 01:26:24.960 --> 01:26:26.070 Isabelle Duvivier: native design. 722 01:26:28.020 --> 01:26:30.720 Isabelle Duvivier: And Lou pack i'm sorry we're being recorded but. 723 01:26:31.080 --> 01:26:44.610 Isabelle Duvivier: loop back they're just they all they want is density density density, God knows why they're so concerned about density, but they're not interested in any of the things that density provides or requires. 724 01:26:44.640 --> 01:26:50.910 sarahwauters: Well yeah and they're not actually interested in density they're interested in enormous single family homes, is what they've been. 725 01:26:51.000 --> 01:26:52.050 Isabelle Duvivier: Around they wanted a. 726 01:26:52.470 --> 01:26:53.250 Isabelle Duvivier: density. 727 01:26:53.880 --> 01:27:02.040 Robin: Will they want all of it, they want to tear down yeah they want to tear down, you know anything that's not huge and then they want to let. 728 01:27:02.460 --> 01:27:19.110 Robin: Big things be built, and yet it's not necessarily allowing for more inhabitants, or you know it's it's not necessarily more than single family that project they passed last night for their to tear down to 800 square foot homes to put up two gigantic or homes. 729 01:27:19.440 --> 01:27:22.950 Robin: And, to me it just sounds like greed gone haywire. 730 01:27:23.010 --> 01:27:24.240 sarahwauters: Well, and if there is no. 731 01:27:24.300 --> 01:27:25.200 Robin: A low income. 732 01:27:25.590 --> 01:27:36.690 sarahwauters: yeah if they're complaining if they're complaining about not enough housing or lower and middle income families those two houses are going in the opposite direction. 733 01:27:37.200 --> 01:27:37.380 sarahwauters: that's. 734 01:27:37.710 --> 01:27:39.630 sarahwauters: The opposite direction, that is not. 735 01:27:40.230 --> 01:27:53.340 Isabelle Duvivier: What complaint, they made to loop back that was a separate discussion that happen before the complaint, they made to 2000 CP Community was that three storey buildings wasn't going to provide us with enough density. 736 01:27:53.700 --> 01:27:59.250 Isabelle Duvivier: that we need to change the building heights and Venice, so we can have real density. 737 01:28:00.480 --> 01:28:04.080 Isabelle Duvivier: And I just thought you know, three stories, can you can get a lot of. 738 01:28:04.860 --> 01:28:06.900 Isabelle Duvivier: Housing in three stories. 739 01:28:07.470 --> 01:28:12.240 Isabelle Duvivier: and build one single family home there so anyway, I just agree with. 740 01:28:12.510 --> 01:28:21.870 Robin: Another thing i'll just mention my screen froze oh so along those lines that what about open space mark MAC the architect pointed out to me. 741 01:28:22.230 --> 01:28:29.430 Robin: One day how you know are lots of Venice are so small that we actually already have and Isabel you probably know, the. 742 01:28:30.030 --> 01:28:35.100 Robin: ratio more we already have greater density here then like lots of parts of La. 743 01:28:35.430 --> 01:28:47.250 Robin: And we have as much density, I guess, as areas in West la that have apartment buildings, because our lots are so tiny and a lot of them have historically already had like at least duplexes on them. 744 01:28:47.670 --> 01:28:59.760 Robin: But the other thing that goes with having small lots that are you know filled in with housing is then you need to have parks and open spaces, you know, we have no place to. 745 01:29:00.240 --> 01:29:11.040 Robin: run and move, and so we can't let our open spaces be destroyed in our green spaces, you know we've got to protect them and even get more if possible. 746 01:29:12.300 --> 01:29:13.410 Robin: So keep at it, you guys. 747 01:29:14.280 --> 01:29:16.170 Isabelle Duvivier: yeah well you're us. 748 01:29:16.320 --> 01:29:34.350 sarahwauters: Yes, you're part of us, I do think that that the this news with regard to the media and reduction, it sounds like it might be limited to what is defined as mar vista, but I do think that, if there's anything that we can do to help mar vista fight that. 749 01:29:35.730 --> 01:29:39.390 sarahwauters: We might want to put our heads together with folks over there. 750 01:29:41.490 --> 01:29:43.320 sarahwauters: So i'm. 751 01:29:44.100 --> 01:29:47.640 Robin: it'd be great to know yeah to what the facts are. 752 01:29:48.150 --> 01:29:50.250 sarahwauters: yeah so um. 753 01:29:51.390 --> 01:29:57.540 sarahwauters: I think we're ready for Evan Evan is ready for us Evan are you with us now. 754 01:30:00.210 --> 01:30:02.070 sarahwauters: you're on mute that much I know. 755 01:30:02.400 --> 01:30:04.560 Evan Corrigan: hey hey i'm here just. 756 01:30:05.970 --> 01:30:06.480 sarahwauters: kidding. 757 01:30:11.040 --> 01:30:16.560 Evan Corrigan: that's sad to hear about the median shortening. 758 01:30:19.170 --> 01:30:19.860 sarahwauters: happened yet. 759 01:30:23.790 --> 01:30:33.030 Evan Corrigan: So they're they're proposing a bus only lane on linkedin which me personally i'm not opposed to because. 760 01:30:35.400 --> 01:30:37.680 Evan Corrigan: You know I grew up taking the bus having a great. 761 01:30:38.040 --> 01:30:40.950 Evan Corrigan: Bus system dedicated lane to go all the way down link into the. 762 01:30:40.950 --> 01:30:46.440 Evan Corrigan: Airport, all the way up to Santa Monica when I first moved here I use that bus a lot and. 763 01:30:48.150 --> 01:31:07.410 Evan Corrigan: You know the bus system is not here yet, but it will get there, and those might give spaces to light, rail or other forms of transportation in the future, other thing it provides is kind of a wider 14 foot bike bus chair lane for bikes which is cool thing is. 764 01:31:08.610 --> 01:31:16.350 Evan Corrigan: I think they're moving forward with it, but we just wanted to see if you get some kind of improvements aesthetic improvements to the sidewalks. 765 01:31:17.970 --> 01:31:25.440 Evan Corrigan: You know if if they're going to take away some parking during rush hour on that bus lane like let's try to get some people walking. 766 01:31:26.640 --> 01:31:27.540 Evan Corrigan: businesses. 767 01:31:28.950 --> 01:31:34.950 Evan Corrigan: You know, we can use trees to make Lincoln boulevard you know. 768 01:31:36.060 --> 01:31:46.080 Evan Corrigan: trees and curb cuts to make it feel prettier and you know even with those power lines kind of create a barrier between the road and the sidewalk make it a little less hot. 769 01:31:47.910 --> 01:32:01.710 Evan Corrigan: Maybe there's potential opportunities for like I think bios whales kind of into those curb cuts increasing ground permeability and not running everything the sewers and then the other thing is just like. 770 01:32:03.360 --> 01:32:14.520 Evan Corrigan: You know, decreasing stress of driving down that boulevard and making it, you know prettier hopefully encouraging less stress and Road rage things like that. 771 01:32:16.410 --> 01:32:22.590 Evan Corrigan: This is a mood Board of you know what it could look like you know even with power lines. 772 01:32:24.330 --> 01:32:37.500 Evan Corrigan: And again, like this is kind of just the concept of like all the places that could have a better sidewalk with curb cuts and trees, I know the city has different requirements for those sort of things. 773 01:32:38.880 --> 01:32:42.210 Evan Corrigan: Let me know if i'm going too fast or skipping over anything. 774 01:32:42.600 --> 01:33:08.670 sarahwauters: No, I I I think you're doing great I actually have some other photographs i'll send you have some of the street states that I saw in Europe that include the bike path in the sidewalk basically, along with the trees, which could provide you with some other ideas to put for. 775 01:33:09.870 --> 01:33:13.050 sarahwauters: Your partners, the partners in linking fast forward. 776 01:33:13.470 --> 01:33:18.210 Evan Corrigan: Oh yeah I mean the bike path completely separated from traffic and a sidewalk is. 777 01:33:18.240 --> 01:33:20.610 sarahwauters: yep it's completely separated yeah. 778 01:33:20.850 --> 01:33:31.560 Evan Corrigan: Totally awesome like how they haven't figured out in Amsterdam and comparisons out in infrastructure to, but the sidewalk just kind of narrow and Lincoln. 779 01:33:32.250 --> 01:33:32.670 sarahwauters: yeah. 780 01:33:32.850 --> 01:33:48.270 Evan Corrigan: i'm not one mile stretch, and so the plan is to they're going to narrow slightly narrow the lanes the Center turn lanes and the two lanes on each side and now provide like a 14 foot bustling which bus and bike will share. 781 01:33:50.640 --> 01:34:05.010 Evan Corrigan: i'm not sure, because I think the width requirement for a bike lane is like five or six feet so i'm not sure having a dedicated bike lane would be approved it's you know all the city standards and Ada accessibility things. 782 01:34:05.550 --> 01:34:11.100 sarahwauters: Right does that mean that they will be losing the parking. 783 01:34:11.970 --> 01:34:12.840 Evan Corrigan: So the bus. 784 01:34:13.980 --> 01:34:17.100 Evan Corrigan: i'm not sure yeah so though during rush hour like. 785 01:34:18.960 --> 01:34:36.360 Evan Corrigan: I think 7am to 9am northbound and 4pm to 7pm southbound i'm not that might be the opposite, but that bus only lane would go into effect the rest of the time it would be available for parking. 786 01:34:36.990 --> 01:34:53.040 Evan Corrigan: But the studies, they did they found that you know that parking in that one mile stretch was pretty underutilized I guess during the week during those times because it's a lot of commuters on the weekend it's can be a very different story. 787 01:34:55.530 --> 01:35:11.100 Evan Corrigan: So walking down Lincoln, so I think it's stretch from Commonwealth to lucille, and these were all spaces, that we kind of identified so there's some existing trees here but there's so many areas. 788 01:35:12.660 --> 01:35:24.120 Evan Corrigan: That previous curb aprons could be filled in from unused old body auto body shops, there could be a curb cuts with planters small trees. 789 01:35:25.980 --> 01:35:29.220 Evan Corrigan: You just could go down a full block and it's just concrete. 790 01:35:30.330 --> 01:35:30.780 Evan Corrigan: So. 791 01:35:30.930 --> 01:35:41.400 sarahwauters: So let me, let me just question you so your methodology here was you were looking at fully concreted areas that could be cut and planted. 792 01:35:42.690 --> 01:35:57.570 Evan Corrigan: A bit of both it's like more of a concept of like hey like there's a lot of opportunity to green a filing here, and it will help from a mobility standpoint as well, courage, people to walk and kind of slow down and. 793 01:35:58.860 --> 01:35:59.160 Evan Corrigan: You know. 794 01:36:01.980 --> 01:36:07.770 Evan Corrigan: possibly have encouraged people to take the bus while waiting for the bus there on Lincoln boulevard I. 795 01:36:09.900 --> 01:36:17.550 Evan Corrigan: there's some proposed spots of potentially we could add in Center median green Center median no that's super expensive. 796 01:36:20.310 --> 01:36:23.010 Evan Corrigan: But just going down the street there's there's a lot of. 797 01:36:24.930 --> 01:36:37.560 Evan Corrigan: You know there's the the trees outside of right at ralphs but you know down that stretch there's just so many segments of that sidewalk that could be cleaned. 798 01:36:39.540 --> 01:36:40.230 Evan Corrigan: and improved. 799 01:36:41.880 --> 01:36:52.560 sarahwauters: So that so that the green cuts that you're showing there was that something that um that the Department of Transportation identified, have you done or. 800 01:36:52.800 --> 01:36:55.020 Evan Corrigan: That this is all us like. 801 01:36:55.080 --> 01:37:01.650 Evan Corrigan: i'm great just kind of walking down the street and going block by block and seeing what could be added and where it could be added. 802 01:37:02.880 --> 01:37:17.430 Evan Corrigan: This is not an official you know landscape design plan, but more of like an opportunity to see if the city would work with us and caltrans and led ot to potentially. 803 01:37:18.990 --> 01:37:21.330 Evan Corrigan: Make the street, a bit more walkable greener. 804 01:37:23.070 --> 01:37:27.000 Evan Corrigan: I know they all like this kind of stuff like permeability and. 805 01:37:29.940 --> 01:37:31.380 Evan Corrigan: trees to some extent. 806 01:37:32.430 --> 01:37:36.630 Evan Corrigan: But so that's that's pretty much the concept so. 807 01:37:38.100 --> 01:37:52.290 Evan Corrigan: The ideas you know we proved distributing this plan or concept to the officials through the parking and transportation committee it's going to go to the dnc will briefly talk about it there and. 808 01:37:53.580 --> 01:37:57.150 Evan Corrigan: How emotion of like you know, should we approve this and. 809 01:37:58.470 --> 01:38:02.100 Evan Corrigan: distributed to the city of like this is what we want to make Lincoln boulevard. 810 01:38:03.390 --> 01:38:09.000 Evan Corrigan: A bit more beautiful for gonna you know do all this construction work on it and out in a bustling land. 811 01:38:10.530 --> 01:38:23.280 Evan Corrigan: So that's the idea here is just to kind of start a conversation with them and show the opportunity and tell them that we as a Community, would like to see Lincoln have more green have more. 812 01:38:24.990 --> 01:38:27.450 Evan Corrigan: You know ground permeability. 813 01:38:28.830 --> 01:38:31.380 Evan Corrigan: increasing safety all these things is a high. 814 01:38:31.680 --> 01:38:34.530 sarahwauters: Right um Now I know that. 815 01:38:35.700 --> 01:38:48.420 sarahwauters: there's a lot of competition for that people beautification grant, but it seems like there might be a need for some like a real designer to dig in. 816 01:38:50.100 --> 01:38:56.040 sarahwauters: Is that something that you guys have talked about the transportation committee or is it it's too early days. 817 01:38:57.090 --> 01:39:00.870 Evan Corrigan: I think it's probably I mean that would be great but. 818 01:39:01.980 --> 01:39:09.300 Evan Corrigan: I mean if it was actually going to be achieved, then we really need to design it me towards you to. 819 01:39:10.320 --> 01:39:21.390 Evan Corrigan: kind of look at what species of trees and plants would really work in the situation under those power lines and would increase the kind of pollinator effect and. 820 01:39:23.160 --> 01:39:27.960 Evan Corrigan: What would be native and be okay with upkeep and things like that. 821 01:39:28.350 --> 01:39:28.770 sarahwauters: Okay. 822 01:39:29.130 --> 01:39:32.610 Evan Corrigan: Right now, is just talk to them and say like. 823 01:39:34.110 --> 01:39:44.190 Evan Corrigan: So we understand where you're going to do this link and fast forward plan, but we really want to see these sidewalks improved as a part of that process. 824 01:39:44.490 --> 01:39:48.510 Evan Corrigan: Right trees to be trees and creams, to be installed. 825 01:39:49.170 --> 01:39:52.530 sarahwauters: And they has the city discussed with you, what kind of. 826 01:39:54.660 --> 01:39:58.320 sarahwauters: Budget, they have for this project and where the money is coming from where the funding. 827 01:39:59.490 --> 01:40:00.720 Evan Corrigan: For Lincoln fast forward. 828 01:40:00.810 --> 01:40:07.650 Evan Corrigan: Yes, um so caltrans will fund it because they have to give back. 829 01:40:08.700 --> 01:40:11.340 Evan Corrigan: Whatever streets or highways to the same. 830 01:40:11.520 --> 01:40:15.330 Evan Corrigan: Great water so that's where the funding is coming from. 831 01:40:16.920 --> 01:40:26.490 Evan Corrigan: We can question is, can we siphon some of that funding away to improve the sidewalk i'm not sure if the sidewalk is included in into their scope of work at all. 832 01:40:29.010 --> 01:40:35.820 Evan Corrigan: We just want to say hey, this is what we'd like to see and and talk it out with them and say well. 833 01:40:36.090 --> 01:40:38.250 sarahwauters: I wonder if there's a way to make an argument that. 834 01:40:39.570 --> 01:40:53.670 sarahwauters: That returning that this the highway because it's basically highway one right yeah they're returning the highway one to the city, are they doing that, with Santa Monica as well, I would imagine they probably are um. 835 01:40:55.230 --> 01:41:02.370 Evan Corrigan: I don't know Santa Monica that portion might have already been returned I know it's looks very different. 836 01:41:02.940 --> 01:41:03.540 It does. 837 01:41:04.710 --> 01:41:13.890 sarahwauters: yeah um but it might be that there's an argument for saying listen if you're going to return it in good working order, it has to be in compliance with good climate. 838 01:41:14.610 --> 01:41:29.010 sarahwauters: values, and that would mean that it needs to have canopy and shade, or at least plan for canopy like trees planted that are going to eventually when mature will be shading this straight to the degree that it's not adding to the urban heat. 839 01:41:30.060 --> 01:41:31.410 sarahwauters: That we already experienced. 840 01:41:32.730 --> 01:41:34.560 sarahwauters: But this is great work. 841 01:41:35.820 --> 01:41:40.170 sarahwauters: So you guys are going to be going to the dnc on the next fancy meeting Is that correct. 842 01:41:40.410 --> 01:41:41.520 Evan Corrigan: yeah on the 17th. 843 01:41:41.940 --> 01:41:45.300 sarahwauters: Okay, so it looks like it's about has her hand up. 844 01:41:48.630 --> 01:41:52.500 Isabelle Duvivier: I wanted to know Do you know anything about the power lines are they. 845 01:41:53.610 --> 01:41:54.900 Isabelle Duvivier: Are they going to go anywhere. 846 01:41:55.260 --> 01:41:56.130 Evan Corrigan: So that's. 847 01:41:57.600 --> 01:41:59.460 Evan Corrigan: la wp what's. 848 01:42:01.500 --> 01:42:01.920 up. 849 01:42:03.240 --> 01:42:06.810 Evan Corrigan: I yeah I mean you'd have to talk to them about that. 850 01:42:07.890 --> 01:42:09.630 Evan Corrigan: that's not a caltrans or. 851 01:42:10.320 --> 01:42:10.740 well. 852 01:42:12.090 --> 01:42:13.770 Evan Corrigan: We could talk to them about it. 853 01:42:13.860 --> 01:42:21.240 Isabelle Duvivier: But yeah it's likely that it won't so they'd have to be trees that we could grow underneath those power lines which there are some. 854 01:42:21.510 --> 01:42:30.930 Isabelle Duvivier: yeah my second, I just wanted to make the point that there's a few really good examples of improved medians like that in. 855 01:42:31.980 --> 01:42:35.190 Isabelle Duvivier: culver city on Washington boulevard. 856 01:42:35.430 --> 01:42:35.850 Evan Corrigan: yeah right. 857 01:42:35.910 --> 01:42:37.860 Isabelle Duvivier: Now it's big rebuilding yeah. 858 01:42:38.190 --> 01:42:39.720 sarahwauters: Is that that yeah that's. 859 01:42:40.410 --> 01:42:42.090 Isabelle Duvivier: yeah that's really nice. 860 01:42:43.050 --> 01:42:43.500 Evan Corrigan: I mean. 861 01:42:43.680 --> 01:42:52.080 Isabelle Duvivier: And also, Pico boulevard does a really great I noticed that you had your medians had lots of space in between from one to the next. 862 01:42:52.710 --> 01:43:02.190 Isabelle Duvivier: and on Pico boulevard they give the turning lane very little space, so that cars actually stack up in the. 863 01:43:02.760 --> 01:43:15.870 Isabelle Duvivier: In the traveling, which is good for traffic, I mean it slows traffic down so people can zoom by crosswalks so you've probably looked at, Pico, but I think that's another really great example where they put in those central medians and. 864 01:43:17.010 --> 01:43:20.010 Evan Corrigan: it'd be really cool to look at yeah that's another thing you know. 865 01:43:20.340 --> 01:43:21.600 sarahwauters: ocean park has been Sir. 866 01:43:22.140 --> 01:43:33.960 Isabelle Duvivier: yeah see look at how much space, you have between those instead of thinking of it as a continuous way, with a few little cuts in it, you know for turning you've got. 867 01:43:35.340 --> 01:43:35.760 Isabelle Duvivier: yeah. 868 01:43:36.000 --> 01:43:37.140 Isabelle Duvivier: But anyway, I think this is. 869 01:43:37.140 --> 01:43:38.100 Isabelle Duvivier: Great I love. 870 01:43:38.220 --> 01:43:40.290 Evan Corrigan: we're up to me like the whole thing which is be. 871 01:43:40.320 --> 01:43:41.040 Isabelle Duvivier: centered yeah. 872 01:43:41.100 --> 01:43:47.760 Evan Corrigan: But I know how people are not have to get to their neighborhoods and that can be really a pain, especially down and big boulevard. 873 01:43:48.150 --> 01:43:48.600 When. 874 01:43:50.580 --> 01:43:50.790 sarahwauters: Oh. 875 01:43:50.850 --> 01:43:51.180 Sorry. 876 01:43:52.740 --> 01:43:54.060 Robin: I just wanted to. 877 01:43:55.140 --> 01:44:08.460 Robin: ask about the the medians don't have circles like as though they are intended to have trees and so would you be planning on having trees, though in them and. 878 01:44:09.960 --> 01:44:12.000 Robin: i'll be great yeah. 879 01:44:12.300 --> 01:44:16.530 Evan Corrigan: I don't knock this whole thing out myself, and I was a little short on time. 880 01:44:16.920 --> 01:44:34.530 Robin: yeah well that's great so yeah I just would encourage you to to yeah put those trees and because trees, will make just so much more difference it's cutting down the noise and the visual ugliness and and then I just have a question also as to. 881 01:44:35.790 --> 01:44:51.360 Robin: Whether it's better to have those median sections or versus having wider sidewalks with you know more green so i'm just kind of positing that as a question and. 882 01:44:53.640 --> 01:45:02.340 Robin: You know, which would be, which would make the experience of driving down a major boulevard more pleasant and safe. 883 01:45:03.390 --> 01:45:05.580 Robin: I mean I open that up for anybody yeah. 884 01:45:07.230 --> 01:45:20.190 Evan Corrigan: Taking away those Center medians and having a bigger sidewalk and the bike lane integrated into it and planters and trees on both sides that would be so awesome I know you probably get a lot of pushback about. 885 01:45:21.900 --> 01:45:32.070 Evan Corrigan: kind of having those those turn lanes because traffic could back up pretty far on certain like on the. 886 01:45:33.090 --> 01:45:37.920 Evan Corrigan: I don't know, maybe on to like when they're crossing out of the Rose rose or something like that. 887 01:45:40.830 --> 01:45:43.110 Evan Corrigan: But I could. 888 01:45:44.430 --> 01:45:54.600 Robin: i'm just throwing it out there, I don't know I mean also you know Isabel do you have a thought on what makes you know, depending on whatever however many lane road. 889 01:45:55.110 --> 01:46:08.010 Robin: Lincoln is there, like would we benefit more from having more trees and wider sidewalks or from having Center islands that also have trees on them, I mean it would be great to. 890 01:46:08.970 --> 01:46:10.860 Isabelle Duvivier: power lines, the Center. 891 01:46:11.910 --> 01:46:25.440 Isabelle Duvivier: A tree planting down the Center is probably going to be a better option for us because it'll be a really wide it'll be like at least eight feet wide so you can get really big tall trees in there, which wouldn't be. 892 01:46:25.920 --> 01:46:34.830 sarahwauters: yeah and then I don't have to be constantly topped The other thing that is also been a problem on Lincoln trees have been. 893 01:46:35.520 --> 01:46:44.790 sarahwauters: consistently planted along there, but the business owners tend to hack them to pieces, I mean the number of just mergers prunings i've seen. 894 01:46:45.300 --> 01:46:56.700 sarahwauters: On Lincoln is you know it's just add insult to injury it's so if the and the reason why they do that, of course, is because they don't want their sign blocked. 895 01:46:57.660 --> 01:47:03.450 sarahwauters: They want drivers who are driving along link and to be able to see their establishment. 896 01:47:03.930 --> 01:47:13.980 sarahwauters: And I think it would be much less likely if we had trees in the median for business owners to you know hire an irresponsible landscape are going to come along and. 897 01:47:14.520 --> 01:47:26.580 sarahwauters: Just chop the tree down because they'll really view that tree as that as owned by the city and they're not going to view that tree as blocking their side, so I do think that medium trees have a certain. 898 01:47:28.620 --> 01:47:31.920 sarahwauters: uni in this instance and. 899 01:47:32.310 --> 01:47:43.920 Robin: Those are good suggestions I would think also there's a fear of large trucks, you know, cutting leaves off of the branches on trees so. 900 01:47:45.090 --> 01:47:46.680 Robin: That to as an issue along. 901 01:47:47.880 --> 01:47:48.720 Robin: Without all of our. 902 01:47:48.930 --> 01:47:53.940 Isabelle Duvivier: You go, can we can we make a motion to support this. 903 01:47:54.810 --> 01:47:56.430 sarahwauters: yeah that's yeah. 904 01:47:57.030 --> 01:48:01.920 Isabelle Duvivier: And then, I just wanted to ask you, Sarah I don't remember what time are we supposed to end. 905 01:48:02.220 --> 01:48:04.200 sarahwauters: we're supposed to end at 130. 906 01:48:04.560 --> 01:48:13.590 Isabelle Duvivier: Okay, because I have a public hearing for the crenshaw crossing tree removal that I know a Budget Committee meeting that i'd like to attend. 907 01:48:15.030 --> 01:48:16.230 Isabelle Duvivier: So if we could make. 908 01:48:16.230 --> 01:48:19.680 Isabelle Duvivier: This motion and then i'm going to leave you guys running it. 909 01:48:20.760 --> 01:48:22.470 Isabelle Duvivier: But I need to get on the call. 910 01:48:22.740 --> 01:48:27.180 sarahwauters: Okay, so um what would be like to say in this motion that. 911 01:48:28.290 --> 01:48:30.270 Isabelle Duvivier: Evan What would you like us to say. 912 01:48:31.380 --> 01:48:32.580 Evan Corrigan: um. 913 01:48:35.880 --> 01:48:37.740 Evan Corrigan: let's see what this thing is called. 914 01:48:37.950 --> 01:48:38.610 yeah what is that. 915 01:48:41.280 --> 01:48:42.900 Evan Corrigan: The Lincoln fast forward. 916 01:48:44.100 --> 01:48:45.570 Evan Corrigan: Green architecture plan. 917 01:48:47.190 --> 01:48:48.690 Evan Corrigan: proposed by the. 918 01:48:51.510 --> 01:48:56.700 Evan Corrigan: Venice parking transportation committee to be sent to the dnc Council something like that. 919 01:48:57.210 --> 01:49:02.250 Isabelle Duvivier: Right or that we just support it, we know we don't have to mention that other. 920 01:49:03.330 --> 01:49:08.640 Isabelle Duvivier: Committee right it's just another it's another unless the that committee produced it. 921 01:49:10.290 --> 01:49:13.200 Isabelle Duvivier: Did that committee produce it or did they just support at. 922 01:49:13.590 --> 01:49:14.970 Evan Corrigan: The PTC. 923 01:49:15.360 --> 01:49:19.830 Evan Corrigan: yeah we kind of produced it and supported it to send it to the dnc. 924 01:49:21.030 --> 01:49:21.510 Isabelle Duvivier: Okay. 925 01:49:22.020 --> 01:49:24.630 Isabelle Duvivier: So then yeah we can support your subcommittee right. 926 01:49:28.500 --> 01:49:31.620 Isabelle Duvivier: Thank you so much for bringing this to us it's super exciting. 927 01:49:31.770 --> 01:49:33.060 sarahwauters: yeah that was. 928 01:49:33.480 --> 01:49:34.500 sarahwauters: really exciting. 929 01:49:34.860 --> 01:49:35.220 Evan Corrigan: I just. 930 01:49:35.310 --> 01:49:37.230 Robin: Did the work that's great you're. 931 01:49:37.560 --> 01:49:52.530 Evan Corrigan: Drawing some wonderful, thank you, I listened in a couple of meetings on YouTube and I thought I should come talk to you guys, because all the cool work you guys are doing and getting those grants and knowing what kind of trees to plan, and I think it's really cool important. 932 01:49:53.280 --> 01:50:01.980 sarahwauters: All right, well thanks for that yeah I mean, I think this is the other thing I think I think that we had talked about the trees when both came. 933 01:50:02.580 --> 01:50:13.590 sarahwauters: From my vista and I attended that meeting that was the link and fast forward meeting and when is the next time they're going to hold one of those meetings when those stakeholders are assembled. 934 01:50:14.130 --> 01:50:21.570 Evan Corrigan: I don't know a I don't know if CD 11 is going to hold another one before and. 935 01:50:22.080 --> 01:50:23.130 sarahwauters: Okay okay. 936 01:50:24.660 --> 01:50:26.010 sarahwauters: Great so so the. 937 01:50:27.840 --> 01:50:28.560 sarahwauters: emotion. 938 01:50:29.580 --> 01:50:44.160 sarahwauters: reads presently in Venice Venice over committee supports the link and fast forward green architecture plan as drafted by the Venice neighborhood Council parking and transportation committee which is. 939 01:50:45.270 --> 01:50:45.960 sarahwauters: To. 940 01:50:49.980 --> 01:50:51.540 sarahwauters: To be considered. 941 01:50:54.990 --> 01:50:55.980 sarahwauters: By the. 942 01:50:57.630 --> 01:50:58.830 Isabelle Duvivier: dnc. 943 01:51:00.750 --> 01:51:01.230 sarahwauters: or. 944 01:51:02.880 --> 01:51:04.110 sarahwauters: officers for it right. 945 01:51:08.550 --> 01:51:18.030 sarahwauters: That How does that sound does anybody else have any advice i'm not the best or most experienced strapped are in this regard, but I think that we can pass that right. 946 01:51:20.670 --> 01:51:23.880 Robin: I don't even think you need to limit it to saying anything about. 947 01:51:23.880 --> 01:51:28.590 Robin: Who it's being presented to you and the point is that you just want to support their. 948 01:51:29.880 --> 01:51:30.600 Robin: Their design. 949 01:51:32.670 --> 01:51:33.000 sarahwauters: Okay. 950 01:51:33.060 --> 01:51:36.240 Robin: That you know increases the greening of. 951 01:51:38.070 --> 01:51:43.050 Robin: Venice boulevard or yeah of Lincoln boulevard you know, maybe put that in. 952 01:51:43.320 --> 01:51:44.070 sarahwauters: yeah okay. 953 01:51:44.670 --> 01:51:49.380 Robin: intelligently intelligently increases, you know the greening of. 954 01:51:50.610 --> 01:51:53.010 Robin: Lincoln boulevard or something like that. 955 01:51:55.170 --> 01:52:02.220 sarahwauters: Increases the greening of greening and incorporation of trees. 956 01:52:04.260 --> 01:52:09.000 sarahwauters: Along Lincoln boulevard actually as part of. 957 01:52:11.010 --> 01:52:12.240 sarahwauters: As part of. 958 01:52:14.370 --> 01:52:15.840 sarahwauters: The eminent. 959 01:52:20.040 --> 01:52:20.940 Robin: caltrans. 960 01:52:21.120 --> 01:52:22.620 sarahwauters: yeah caltrans. 961 01:52:26.160 --> 01:52:42.000 Robin: I mean yeah you don't necessarily need it to be that narrow, I mean if they if it's beneficial to them to have a motion that supports that for any reason, and you know, like, even if they don't get caltrans to do it, you know you're still supporting it right. 962 01:52:43.140 --> 01:53:00.720 sarahwauters: Right right that's true um I mean the reason why i'd like to include That is because I wanted to be included as part of that, I think that that having access to caltrans funds is that's a pretty big deal is about with your hand up. 963 01:53:02.910 --> 01:53:11.130 Isabelle Duvivier: Oh no I don't sorry I haven't taken it down, yet I was just hoping that i'd have time to share with you the Budget Committee hearings that are happening right now. 964 01:53:11.460 --> 01:53:23.130 Isabelle Duvivier: And if somebody wants to call in it's the mayor's budget the budget and Finance Committee talk about the budget we'd love to have some people calling in asking them for more money for urban forestry. 965 01:53:23.430 --> 01:53:24.090 Isabelle Duvivier: Okay, I didn't. 966 01:53:24.360 --> 01:53:32.040 sarahwauters: have my hand up sorry that's all right i'm happy to do that, thank you for that announcement How did we get that link is it just we get to the city website. 967 01:53:35.820 --> 01:53:37.320 sarahwauters: Isabel you're muted. 968 01:53:42.300 --> 01:53:43.560 sarahwauters: Isabel we can't hear you. 969 01:53:47.910 --> 01:53:50.700 Isabelle Duvivier: I was just sharing with you the. 970 01:53:52.710 --> 01:53:54.000 Isabelle Duvivier: The information. 971 01:53:55.050 --> 01:53:55.680 sarahwauters: Oh, you were. 972 01:53:56.250 --> 01:53:56.820 sarahwauters: I big. 973 01:53:57.150 --> 01:54:02.820 Isabelle Duvivier: juicy Can you see the share anyway i'm sorry let's finish this this thing and then i'll share with you. 974 01:54:03.000 --> 01:54:05.250 Isabelle Duvivier: My colon information. 975 01:54:05.520 --> 01:54:16.200 sarahwauters: OK, so the motion i'll repeat it one more time and then everyone who's on the committee let's go ahead and raise our hands if we approve so. 976 01:54:16.950 --> 01:54:33.600 sarahwauters: Here it is the Venice arbor committee supports the Lincoln fast forward green architecture plan as drafted by the dnc parking and transportation committee which intelligently increases the greening and incorporation of trees along Lincoln boulevard. 977 01:54:37.290 --> 01:54:38.220 Isabelle Duvivier: i'll second that. 978 01:54:39.210 --> 01:54:43.230 sarahwauters: Okay uh i'll did somebody else first it. 979 01:54:44.160 --> 01:54:45.810 Isabelle Duvivier: You did oh. 980 01:54:45.960 --> 01:54:46.530 Isabelle Duvivier: I first. 981 01:54:46.890 --> 01:54:51.060 sarahwauters: knew Okay, we have a problem, though, because noel's not with us any longer. 982 01:54:52.380 --> 01:54:53.220 Isabelle Duvivier: michaels here. 983 01:54:53.670 --> 01:54:56.880 sarahwauters: Oh, Michael okay Michael go ahead, are you in approval. 984 01:54:58.950 --> 01:55:00.150 sarahwauters: We just need to hear from you. 985 01:55:01.530 --> 01:55:09.210 Michael McGuffin: You may be on his other call swim in approval, but I don't think i'm a formal member of far but if I am I approve. 986 01:55:09.750 --> 01:55:10.170 Every. 987 01:55:11.520 --> 01:55:12.570 Isabelle Duvivier: Everyone in the call. 988 01:55:12.570 --> 01:55:15.960 Isabelle Duvivier: So allowed to vote so Andreas Robin you guys can all, though. 989 01:55:16.080 --> 01:55:21.060 sarahwauters: Okay, everybody about them go ahead and raise your okay good Robin. 990 01:55:23.910 --> 01:55:24.600 Isabelle Duvivier: I don't mean. 991 01:55:25.470 --> 01:55:26.700 sarahwauters: she's unmute. 992 01:55:26.880 --> 01:55:29.220 Robin: yeah absolutely i'm full approval. 993 01:55:29.490 --> 01:55:31.560 sarahwauters: Okay, and calling user number two. 994 01:55:35.280 --> 01:55:36.060 sarahwauters: you're on mute. 995 01:55:37.590 --> 01:55:38.520 sarahwauters: Do you like to vote. 996 01:55:42.990 --> 01:55:46.800 Robin: I don't know that you can take our boots though I think it has to be your voting. 997 01:55:46.980 --> 01:55:50.160 sarahwauters: board that, but it has to be there, I think it has to be the committee to but. 998 01:55:50.520 --> 01:55:53.880 Isabelle Duvivier: i'm seeing other b&c subcommittees do this so. 999 01:55:54.150 --> 01:56:02.130 sarahwauters: Are you okay okay so uh let's see i've got me Andreas Isabel Robin and Michael. 1000 01:56:10.830 --> 01:56:17.670 Isabelle Duvivier: All right, you guys, I have to get off this call, so I can let it let it run, but it did you want to see the colon info. 1001 01:56:18.030 --> 01:56:19.110 sarahwauters: Yes, I do want to see. 1002 01:56:23.880 --> 01:56:25.020 Isabelle Duvivier: Can you see that. 1003 01:56:26.280 --> 01:56:27.210 sarahwauters: Oh, my gosh. 1004 01:56:27.840 --> 01:56:35.610 Isabelle Duvivier: it's just the stuff in yellow it's the budget and Finance Committee special meeting. 1005 01:56:39.000 --> 01:56:44.220 Isabelle Duvivier: And I don't I have no idea what they're talking about so just. 1006 01:56:44.220 --> 01:56:45.750 Isabelle Duvivier: call in and say that. 1007 01:56:46.680 --> 01:56:52.170 Isabelle Duvivier: If you want call in and say that urban forestry is woefully under. 1008 01:56:53.190 --> 01:56:59.490 Isabelle Duvivier: Most most cities get 1% we barely give a quarter of a percent of our budget. 1009 01:57:00.030 --> 01:57:14.880 Isabelle Duvivier: right that trees are dying there's no enforcement we're on a 20 year trimming cycle it's well known that we should be at least trimming our trees every five years and that's probably good enough. 1010 01:57:15.780 --> 01:57:18.150 sarahwauters: Right Okay, yes. 1011 01:57:19.980 --> 01:57:25.080 sarahwauters: Okay, so um, thank you for that Isabel when is that call beginning. 1012 01:57:26.040 --> 01:57:28.980 Isabelle Duvivier: Like five minutes 10 minutes 15 minutes ago. 1013 01:57:30.240 --> 01:57:43.590 sarahwauters: that's fine Okay, so we should probably wrap up here pretty quick since we're at 115 um we have a couple more issues, it sounds like Isabel you're gonna you're gonna go and. 1014 01:57:45.090 --> 01:57:48.840 sarahwauters: leave us with these we have 123 more. 1015 01:57:50.460 --> 01:58:05.550 sarahwauters: agenda items that we plan to discuss the big watering the pen mar golf course and then the tree wall expansion throughout Venice so um do you want to stay for any of those items as well, or do we want. 1016 01:58:05.550 --> 01:58:06.030 Isabelle Duvivier: to know. 1017 01:58:06.150 --> 01:58:07.860 Isabelle Duvivier: The next I wanted to jump on this call. 1018 01:58:07.950 --> 01:58:09.450 Isabelle Duvivier: Okay huh. 1019 01:58:10.680 --> 01:58:11.190 sarahwauters: Okay. 1020 01:58:12.420 --> 01:58:12.660 sarahwauters: Good. 1021 01:58:12.720 --> 01:58:15.450 Isabelle Duvivier: To stay on i'll leave i'll leave the zoom going. 1022 01:58:15.720 --> 01:58:16.170 sarahwauters: Okay. 1023 01:58:16.350 --> 01:58:21.960 Isabelle Duvivier: leave this none of those other things are really urgent and noel's not here to talk about the bid stuff so. 1024 01:58:22.110 --> 01:58:23.250 sarahwauters: yeah, so I think. 1025 01:58:23.310 --> 01:58:24.660 Isabelle Duvivier: Probably just adjourn. 1026 01:58:24.840 --> 01:58:30.030 sarahwauters: I can address i'll address the old business kind marvel for us because I did get a report from. 1027 01:58:31.050 --> 01:58:36.450 sarahwauters: Barry on that and so i'll address that and then we'll adjourn. 1028 01:58:37.470 --> 01:58:43.710 sarahwauters: Okay, all right okay so as some of you probably know, there has been. 1029 01:58:44.910 --> 01:58:59.310 sarahwauters: A lot of discussion with regard to how we're going to replace the the dirt walk that goes along with the pen mark off course, there was, as you guys are unsure painfully aware that there was a. 1030 01:58:59.970 --> 01:59:06.630 sarahwauters: There was an encampment there for quite some time and then there were a number of fires and because of the safety issues. 1031 01:59:07.140 --> 01:59:18.240 sarahwauters: The residents in that neighborhood were finally able to get the city to remove the encampment and now the city wants to replace that dirt area that's alongside the golf course with a concrete path. 1032 01:59:18.840 --> 01:59:27.570 sarahwauters: And Barry and a number of other people in East Venice have proposed something actually kind of similar to what you're proposing Evan. 1033 01:59:28.770 --> 01:59:30.840 sarahwauters: And they have been. 1034 01:59:31.920 --> 01:59:41.700 sarahwauters: Passing around a petition and they've gotten funding number of signatures at this point and they're trying to force the city or at least you know. 1035 01:59:41.730 --> 01:59:49.050 sarahwauters: pleased with the city to put in something that's quite a bit different than the concrete sidewalk that they're envisioning. 1036 01:59:49.410 --> 01:59:56.580 sarahwauters: So there is a new meeting coming up, I think the signature level is at least greater than 250 signatures at this point. 1037 01:59:57.030 --> 02:00:06.480 sarahwauters: And then the next probably The next meeting will have Barry and her cohort will be able to come to us and let us know what's happening with the city. 1038 02:00:07.050 --> 02:00:15.030 sarahwauters: They they did try to get a meeting with my phone and and it was all scheduled and they went to his offices and he just didn't show up so. 1039 02:00:16.260 --> 02:00:32.220 sarahwauters: they're they're continuing to really lobby hard not to have concrete fill in that end of rows so that's all for that report at the moment um does anybody else know anything else about that that they'd like to add, or do they have any questions. 1040 02:00:32.970 --> 02:00:46.680 Robin: So I know that it's a decompose granted pathway with plantings along so um yeah it looks you know very enjoyable it looks very you know, like serene as opposed to just being more concrete. 1041 02:00:47.190 --> 02:00:49.350 sarahwauters: yeah it looks and I think they've added quite a. 1042 02:00:49.350 --> 02:01:07.260 sarahwauters: Number of natives um so it would be basically you know, extending the green area of the golf course out into that that sort of pathway next to it and then people would be able to circumnavigate the golf course again and where they used to be able to do. 1043 02:01:07.740 --> 02:01:13.500 Evan Corrigan: yeah the plan looks beautiful it's like exactly what everybody wants to see. 1044 02:01:14.220 --> 02:01:25.110 Evan Corrigan: And yeah on the golf course side of rose or doesn't really need to be parking on before between Lincoln and pen mar. 1045 02:01:26.760 --> 02:01:30.300 sarahwauters: yeah I agree, yes yeah cuz nobody's working there anyway. 1046 02:01:30.750 --> 02:01:37.620 Robin: yeah and it's a better surface for jogging and yeah I was able to actually at one time the city. 1047 02:01:38.940 --> 02:01:41.940 Robin: we're trying to tell me that I couldn't put in decompose Granite. 1048 02:01:42.750 --> 02:01:55.200 Robin: In the corner ballpark but they ended up changing their ways and allowed it, so I know that decompose granted is permitted, I think they're dealing with record parks, I think it's wrecking parks were controlling and i'm not sure that. 1049 02:01:55.830 --> 02:01:57.840 Robin: Now, its ability to develop. 1050 02:01:58.260 --> 02:02:12.390 sarahwauters: they're trying they actually want to try to get record parks to to take over the land and that's The difficulty is that who's going to maintain it right who wants to put it into their budget for maintenance and that's the. 1051 02:02:13.560 --> 02:02:22.740 sarahwauters: that's I think part of the rub is then the different various agencies that are involved don't believe that they have to keep this thing, going so. 1052 02:02:22.770 --> 02:02:31.380 Robin: Will it, it was the city that allowed me finally to put decompose granted in the corner ballpark and it, it maintains really well, I mean it stays where it's supposed to be. 1053 02:02:31.710 --> 02:02:32.160 sarahwauters: It looks. 1054 02:02:32.400 --> 02:02:39.510 sarahwauters: It looks really good, what is the what is the agency that actually has authority over the park. 1055 02:02:40.980 --> 02:02:41.970 sarahwauters: The ballpark I mean. 1056 02:02:42.660 --> 02:02:43.080 Oh. 1057 02:02:44.580 --> 02:03:00.210 Robin: Well it's two different divisions of the city, but I carry the insurance for it, then when I have a revocable permit so whenever you do something like that, and yet, maybe that's what they should be doing is getting a remarkable permit and doing it themselves. 1058 02:03:01.470 --> 02:03:06.270 Robin: You know, you might mention the ask Barry if she's ever looked into that because that's how I built the ballpark. 1059 02:03:10.860 --> 02:03:25.890 Robin: And then, and then it's it's pretty insane and then I have to carry the insurance, I mean she'd have to beat them, they can form well they've got their East Venice neighborhood group and maybe they as an entity could carry the insurance for it, or something like that. 1060 02:03:28.440 --> 02:03:28.770 Evan Corrigan: What is. 1061 02:03:28.950 --> 02:03:32.940 sarahwauters: A revocable permit Does that mean that the city can say we're revoking your permit. 1062 02:03:33.570 --> 02:03:39.180 Robin: yeah but they don't they you know they last, for you know hundreds of years or something. 1063 02:03:42.330 --> 02:03:48.300 sarahwauters: Okay that's a really great suggestion thanks Robin okay um any other questions or suggestions. 1064 02:03:52.380 --> 02:04:08.700 Robin: Oh, I have a question um what have you been able to find out about a watering truck I know that Jim said that the trailer I have cannot carry his water tank and i'm just wondering if you've been able to make progress and what what you're able to do. 1065 02:04:09.000 --> 02:04:11.940 sarahwauters: I did I did present at the last meeting. 1066 02:04:13.020 --> 02:04:24.450 sarahwauters: Numbers with regard to what it would be to hire someone to do the watering and it turned out that it was in order to you know, once a month, it would be 1000 to $2,000 is pretty expensive. 1067 02:04:25.650 --> 02:04:36.030 sarahwauters: So we haven't really explored any further to to into getting something a little bit more catches catch, can you just kind of down and dirty and. 1068 02:04:36.810 --> 02:04:46.530 sarahwauters: You know I think that's just none of us really own a truck and we haven't discussed yet we haven't found someone that does um but yeah we'd have to be something that was really party to. 1069 02:04:47.400 --> 02:04:57.060 sarahwauters: Put you know big tanks of water on the back of it and that's really what we're talking about, so now we haven't made any progress on that, but I think that Noel had something that she's been referred to us. 1070 02:04:57.360 --> 02:05:05.130 sarahwauters: And then she couldn't get a jump off the call because of something that was going on for her so so we may hear from her again next month. 1071 02:05:06.840 --> 02:05:10.200 Robin: So, but it's not an immediate need to your okay. 1072 02:05:10.590 --> 02:05:18.000 sarahwauters: yeah I mean it isn't it isn't right, we want to water things as fast as we can, we do have a way that we've been watering things but it's not going to. 1073 02:05:18.000 --> 02:05:18.390 Robin: Be oh. 1074 02:05:19.140 --> 02:05:20.760 sarahwauters: Good abby we have a small trailer. 1075 02:05:22.800 --> 02:05:39.390 sarahwauters: Okay okay folks i'm so glad everybody came today, it was a smaller meeting than usual, because I was a little bit late off the mark getting my my my notifications out but we certainly had a lot of information that's really useful and interesting and I think. 1076 02:05:40.440 --> 02:05:49.380 sarahwauters: West of blink and i'm going to try to talk to kiss the ground and if any of these other tasks i'm going to get the agenda of theirs, but this possible. 1077 02:05:51.000 --> 02:05:58.350 sarahwauters: You guys can do some lifting or help out on that would be great so Okay, I think we're ready to adjourn. 1078 02:05:59.640 --> 02:06:03.030 sarahwauters: Okay, thanks for coming Evan your presentation was really great. 1079 02:06:04.830 --> 02:06:06.270 sarahwauters: Okay bye guys. 1080 02:06:06.780 --> 02:06:07.650 sarahwauters: Thank you.