WEBVTT 1 00:00:21.060 --> 00:00:23.160 james murez: i'm in the meeting daffodil are you there. 2 00:00:24.570 --> 00:00:27.360 james murez: I got to start a zoom call it's a crazy system. 3 00:00:29.160 --> 00:00:31.950 james murez: I thank you, Michael when I do have a replacement. 4 00:05:31.350 --> 00:05:32.190 james murez: i'm just curious. 5 00:06:12.690 --> 00:06:13.410 james murez: works okay. 6 00:06:19.980 --> 00:06:20.430 james murez: That part. 7 00:06:23.670 --> 00:06:30.720 james murez: yeah I hear that if I even if I was to say I wouldn't charge any fees that wouldn't make that much difference. 8 00:06:32.940 --> 00:06:33.660 james murez: you're not making. 9 00:06:35.790 --> 00:06:36.000 Your. 10 00:06:40.980 --> 00:06:41.280 james murez: You are. 11 00:06:51.510 --> 00:06:51.990 james murez: listening. 12 00:09:47.400 --> 00:09:54.480 james murez: supposed to be starting this zoom meeting for her, she is I see you didn't want killing right. 13 00:10:00.630 --> 00:10:02.400 james murez: I gotta get this person into the meeting. 14 00:10:13.980 --> 00:10:14.580 james murez: properties. 15 00:10:17.310 --> 00:10:17.820 james murez: daffodil. 16 00:10:18.300 --> 00:10:19.710 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah yeah. 17 00:10:20.160 --> 00:10:26.970 james murez: Okay you're you're in control, if you lose connectivity or something just call me and i'll restart you. 18 00:10:27.510 --> 00:10:32.130 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, all right yeah I had a slight issue i'm trying to work through okay great thanks. 19 00:10:34.230 --> 00:10:34.560 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah. 20 00:14:04.740 --> 00:14:05.160 Daffodil Tyminski: Oh. 21 00:14:13.920 --> 00:14:16.050 Daffodil Tyminski: hey guys I see you on there i'm trying to promote you. 22 00:15:41.250 --> 00:15:42.210 Daffodil Tyminski: hi guys. 23 00:15:44.610 --> 00:15:45.180 Darryl DuFay: Hello. 24 00:15:47.670 --> 00:15:48.360 Jeremy Loeb: howdy howdy. 25 00:15:49.020 --> 00:15:53.460 Daffodil Tyminski: hi i'm trying to get all you guys in and hold on one second I was having a bit of a computer. 26 00:15:54.720 --> 00:15:57.420 Daffodil Tyminski: issue this morning, so logged in on my iPad. 27 00:16:02.340 --> 00:16:10.890 Jeremy Loeb: By the way, I remember that we talked on the last call about going around our neighborhoods and taking pictures of places that needed the sidewalks repaired. 28 00:16:11.400 --> 00:16:15.060 Jeremy Loeb: yeah so I actually did that on the vest but yesterday. 29 00:16:15.750 --> 00:16:23.280 Jeremy Loeb: So that's still something that we want to submit somewhere, I have like a bunch of pictures with GEO tags, so I know exactly where they are. 30 00:16:23.910 --> 00:16:25.530 Jeremy Loeb: awesome thoughts and bad ones. 31 00:16:26.430 --> 00:16:33.690 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah no around us, I is the worst i've seen anywhere yeah and it's also oddly the most heavily torsten. 32 00:16:33.870 --> 00:16:34.230 yeah. 33 00:16:39.450 --> 00:16:42.300 Daffodil Tyminski: Sorry, as a few folks i'm trying to get them as panelists but it just. 34 00:16:42.720 --> 00:16:43.560 I love your eyes. 35 00:16:44.970 --> 00:16:45.390 Daffodil Tyminski: it's why. 36 00:16:45.630 --> 00:16:46.470 Jeremy Loeb: I love your House. 37 00:16:47.280 --> 00:16:48.000 Thanks. 38 00:16:53.010 --> 00:16:53.910 Jeremy Loeb: you're out there with you. 39 00:16:55.410 --> 00:16:59.940 Daffodil Tyminski: Now he's taking he's like it has a working all day. 40 00:17:02.790 --> 00:17:05.040 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay Darrell and Sergio i'm trying to. 41 00:17:07.620 --> 00:17:10.620 Daffodil Tyminski: promote you as panelists have given you both permission to talk. 42 00:17:14.700 --> 00:17:19.440 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay Darrell I see you accepted Sergio it's fine if you don't want to be a panelist I can just leave it on is. 43 00:17:22.740 --> 00:17:23.940 Daffodil Tyminski: You having permission to talk. 44 00:17:29.850 --> 00:17:31.530 Daffodil Tyminski: Oh, there we go Hello everybody. 45 00:17:44.760 --> 00:17:47.130 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, well, I feel like we have a critical mass here. 46 00:17:50.190 --> 00:17:52.710 Daffodil Tyminski: um hold on a second. 47 00:17:56.400 --> 00:18:04.920 reta moser: walk doors I knew you just go in and yeah just go after everything is like you're just the owner this House oh. 48 00:18:07.980 --> 00:18:18.030 Daffodil Tyminski: Well i'm just want to pull up the agenda here and my apologies, I would normally do this on my computer, but this morning it's giving me a very hard time so. 49 00:18:18.270 --> 00:18:22.050 Jeremy Loeb: should note that I was just on a zoom call with Cory Booker. 50 00:18:23.160 --> 00:18:23.550 Daffodil Tyminski: Oh yeah. 51 00:18:24.450 --> 00:18:25.050 Jeremy Loeb: So i've got. 52 00:18:26.730 --> 00:18:28.800 Jeremy Loeb: The top most federal politics to the. 53 00:18:29.250 --> 00:18:31.650 Jeremy Loeb: Grassroots local politics in five minutes. 54 00:18:32.850 --> 00:18:36.300 Daffodil Tyminski: Well that's awesome and then I would consider this this particular zoom an upgrade. 55 00:18:39.210 --> 00:18:41.160 Charles Rosin: that's that's your opinion definitely. 56 00:18:43.860 --> 00:18:45.150 reta moser: Cory Booker fan. 57 00:18:45.960 --> 00:18:58.860 Jeremy Loeb: I am like my my my parents are involved in an organization called seniors taking action it's a democratic grassroots political machine that they're trying to build and Cory was one of their guest speakers today. 58 00:19:02.880 --> 00:19:04.590 reta moser: that's awesome hey what's the. 59 00:19:05.700 --> 00:19:06.330 Jeremy Loeb: what's that. 60 00:19:06.540 --> 00:19:07.410 reta moser: What state. 61 00:19:07.530 --> 00:19:11.880 Jeremy Loeb: It make it nationwide if you want me to send the information I can send it to this group. 62 00:19:14.130 --> 00:19:17.640 reta moser: Now I don't need to send it to you know I don't need to send it to me. 63 00:19:19.950 --> 00:19:20.550 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm. 64 00:19:22.860 --> 00:19:29.580 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay let's call the meeting to order, it is 830 secs good morning everybody. 65 00:19:30.660 --> 00:19:31.230 reta moser: Good morning. 66 00:19:33.240 --> 00:19:41.250 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm sorry the way i'm doing this again it's on an iPad so it's a little bit going to appear a little bit different than you would normally see it when it's on my computer. 67 00:19:44.670 --> 00:19:48.000 Daffodil Tyminski: And I think I see pretty much everyone here but hold on. 68 00:19:52.500 --> 00:19:53.430 Daffodil Tyminski: let's take roll. 69 00:19:54.630 --> 00:19:55.200 Daffodil Tyminski: JEREMY. 70 00:19:56.340 --> 00:19:56.730 Jeremy Loeb: here. 71 00:19:59.610 --> 00:20:00.270 Daffodil Tyminski: Yolanda. 72 00:20:00.660 --> 00:20:01.170 here. 73 00:20:02.490 --> 00:20:03.150 Daffodil Tyminski: felicia. 74 00:20:03.600 --> 00:20:03.990 here. 75 00:20:06.270 --> 00:20:09.990 Daffodil Tyminski: And by the way, everyone fleeces our newest Member welcome great to have you aboard. 76 00:20:09.990 --> 00:20:11.610 feliciasaltzbart: and be here yeah. 77 00:20:12.600 --> 00:20:13.080 William. 78 00:20:17.130 --> 00:20:24.780 Daffodil Tyminski: See here actually did not see William here so we'll see if he comes i'm chuck. 79 00:20:25.710 --> 00:20:26.160 Charles Rosin: morning. 80 00:20:26.700 --> 00:20:28.290 Daffodil Tyminski: Good morning Darrell. 81 00:20:28.680 --> 00:20:29.190 Your. 82 00:20:30.510 --> 00:20:32.340 Daffodil Tyminski: Mind girl cassie. 83 00:20:36.270 --> 00:20:38.940 Daffodil Tyminski: Who, I can see is here cassie could you um. 84 00:20:40.530 --> 00:20:41.640 Daffodil Tyminski: Let us know you really are here. 85 00:20:46.470 --> 00:20:48.420 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay we'll come back to cassie Rita. 86 00:20:49.050 --> 00:20:49.740 Yes. 87 00:20:51.120 --> 00:20:52.050 Daffodil Tyminski: And Sergio. 88 00:20:56.370 --> 00:20:59.520 Daffodil Tyminski: Sergio I see you're here as well, so if you could, at some point. 89 00:21:01.710 --> 00:21:03.240 Daffodil Tyminski: Actually verbalize that that'd be great. 90 00:21:07.620 --> 00:21:08.460 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so once you. 91 00:21:09.240 --> 00:21:09.690 Okay. 92 00:21:10.830 --> 00:21:12.000 Daffodil Tyminski: Oh great Sergio thanks. 93 00:21:15.570 --> 00:21:17.580 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay um. 94 00:21:18.960 --> 00:21:29.340 Daffodil Tyminski: Number four we have instead of this agenda looks a little bit different guys and we've seen I was trying to stay, true to this new form that Jim created with the city so. 95 00:21:30.210 --> 00:21:41.310 Daffodil Tyminski: It has this most of the central same elements it just looks a little different but number four declaration ex parte communications and conflicts, this is really if anyone's had. 96 00:21:44.670 --> 00:22:01.290 Daffodil Tyminski: communications with anyone about one of the issues outside of the committee, or if anyone has a conflict of interest with any of these issues so, for example, i've spoken to every I spoken to numerous people about every single one of the items on the agenda. 97 00:22:02.760 --> 00:22:07.800 Daffodil Tyminski: And I assume some of you have and habit, so if we just want to go through and. 98 00:22:09.990 --> 00:22:13.260 Daffodil Tyminski: You guys, let me know if there's anyone you've spoken to. 99 00:22:14.520 --> 00:22:24.120 Daffodil Tyminski: And that should be disclosed and we can probably do this most orderly by raising hands, but just be patient is on my iPad I have to see how they pop up. 100 00:22:26.430 --> 00:22:27.510 Daffodil Tyminski: Does anyone have anything. 101 00:22:29.730 --> 00:22:30.090 No. 102 00:22:31.350 --> 00:22:32.220 Daffodil Tyminski: No okay. 103 00:22:33.840 --> 00:22:35.430 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, see no hands will move on. 104 00:22:37.950 --> 00:22:40.170 Daffodil Tyminski: Are you do, how do you see that I don't see that. 105 00:22:41.730 --> 00:22:44.850 Cassie B: i'm trying to say that i've been President on the call. 106 00:22:45.450 --> 00:22:47.040 Daffodil Tyminski: Oh great casting thanks so much. 107 00:22:47.100 --> 00:22:48.360 Cassie B: yeah good morning everyone. 108 00:22:48.960 --> 00:22:49.530 Good morning. 109 00:22:50.820 --> 00:22:51.450 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm. 110 00:22:54.120 --> 00:22:57.690 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay well chuck keep an eye out for hands, for me, because it didn't even pop up screen. 111 00:22:58.020 --> 00:22:58.920 Charles Rosin: Okay, your counter. 112 00:22:59.460 --> 00:22:59.940 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you. 113 00:23:01.740 --> 00:23:05.310 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so number five public comment on items, not on the agenda. 114 00:23:06.510 --> 00:23:14.550 Daffodil Tyminski: This is, if anyone in the member of the public wants to say something we usually give people a minute or so and we have one remember the public here. 115 00:23:16.110 --> 00:23:17.910 Daffodil Tyminski: Helen go ahead. 116 00:23:19.980 --> 00:23:26.040 Helen Fallon: hi good morning everybody um I would just like to ask this committee, perhaps take up the subject of. 117 00:23:27.120 --> 00:23:32.670 Helen Fallon: approaching the city about repairing the bridges along on Dell avenue. 118 00:23:33.390 --> 00:23:45.780 Helen Fallon: Open some of them have been severely damaged by skateboarders the rebar is even showing and I think that that's something that should be of concern to our entire community since they're very representative of Venice. 119 00:23:47.190 --> 00:23:50.280 reta moser: I would just like to save wire skateboarders in there. 120 00:23:51.540 --> 00:23:53.130 Helen Fallon: In because there are. 121 00:23:55.440 --> 00:23:57.270 Helen Fallon: I won't use the term this early in the morning. 122 00:23:58.290 --> 00:24:14.880 Helen Fallon: That think that it's great to run your skateboard along the top of that thing I mean i've gotten to some screaming fits with people over it, and they're at it, you know it's like we have a skateboard park use it well there's the bridge closest to Venice boulevard has been severely damaged. 123 00:24:15.900 --> 00:24:31.140 Helen Fallon: there's rebar exposed and I don't think that's you know sub wine is going to be a major problem i've sent my letters to the city and gotten nowhere so i'm hoping that maybe have tackled on a wider scale that. 124 00:24:31.260 --> 00:24:39.960 reta moser: I think the neighborhood committee should to promote eliminating skateboarders within the canal yeah. 125 00:24:40.050 --> 00:24:41.790 Helen Fallon: Both sides are there, but that doesn't. 126 00:24:41.790 --> 00:24:43.620 Helen Fallon: stop people from violating you've just. 127 00:24:43.620 --> 00:24:44.250 Helen Fallon: Like we have no. 128 00:24:44.970 --> 00:24:48.630 reta moser: On the sidewalk prevent them from being on the sidewalks. 129 00:24:49.770 --> 00:24:55.530 Helen Fallon: yeah there's signs posted there's no skateboarding but that doesn't prevent people from thinking that it's a great place to. 130 00:24:56.730 --> 00:24:57.720 Helen Fallon: use it as a rail. 131 00:24:58.650 --> 00:25:03.480 reta moser: Oh, my goodness okay that's been a problem for a long time yeah. 132 00:25:03.510 --> 00:25:06.210 Helen Fallon: But they are damaged that's that's the. 133 00:25:06.360 --> 00:25:17.730 Helen Fallon: issue when bringing up, and I think it's something that it might help to have the nc take a position on it and not a position but start demanding that this get fixed yeah. 134 00:25:19.590 --> 00:25:29.730 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm Helen that's a great suggestion um do you mind sharing and you don't have to do it right now, but who you've already contacted just so um. 135 00:25:30.510 --> 00:25:38.400 Daffodil Tyminski: I mean that person may be gone, because I feel like the city's a revolving door of people in these departments, but at least we have a sense of you know what's been done. 136 00:25:39.060 --> 00:25:43.800 Helen Fallon: I was told by yo I 311 did and got you know it was told that it was so on to. 137 00:25:45.600 --> 00:25:51.210 Helen Fallon: What is it public works, I think, are you know and i'll look up this stuff and and forward it to you. 138 00:25:51.870 --> 00:25:53.280 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so we're gonna do is. 139 00:25:54.480 --> 00:25:57.720 Daffodil Tyminski: we'll do a little reconnaissance this month and next month we'll put it on the agenda. 140 00:25:58.410 --> 00:25:59.400 Helen Fallon: Okay, great thanks. 141 00:26:00.060 --> 00:26:01.110 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah thanks for bringing up. 142 00:26:02.100 --> 00:26:11.700 Charles Rosin: I have a question though i'm smarter Darrell because you know this, it has the canals association ever got this issue Helen you would know this. 143 00:26:13.230 --> 00:26:13.530 Helen Fallon: Oh. 144 00:26:14.820 --> 00:26:18.660 Helen Fallon: I have, I have no idea what the canal association has done about. 145 00:26:20.580 --> 00:26:24.390 Charles Rosin: Have any i'm just never come up in your conversations. 146 00:26:25.980 --> 00:26:28.890 Helen Fallon: i'm not a member of zero might know you know. 147 00:26:30.180 --> 00:26:42.030 Darryl DuFay: it's come up over the years that there's one chunk out that was result of a car hitting it that's the one that's closest to us boulevard. 148 00:26:44.820 --> 00:26:57.120 Cassie B: If I may mentioned something is there a way that you know how like on certain benches are uncertain sidewalks they have those little anti skateboarding devices I don't know what they're called but they're. 149 00:26:57.630 --> 00:27:06.780 Cassie B: they're pretty much ingrained on certain structures in the city so like railings and so on, that skateboarders can't use them. 150 00:27:07.290 --> 00:27:07.860 reta moser: that's right. 151 00:27:08.340 --> 00:27:09.390 Daffodil Tyminski: it's a great idea that's a. 152 00:27:09.390 --> 00:27:10.380 Daffodil Tyminski: Little teeth things. 153 00:27:10.530 --> 00:27:11.790 Cassie B: yeah I mean I know it. 154 00:27:11.790 --> 00:27:12.840 Daffodil Tyminski: might be considered. 155 00:27:12.840 --> 00:27:24.450 Cassie B: Historical but you know these as you as you were saying that you can post assign people ignore them it's not the kind of thing of the city is going to send lapd over to you know to patrol. 156 00:27:25.860 --> 00:27:28.560 Cassie B: I mean that's just an option in the meantime. 157 00:27:29.370 --> 00:27:36.180 Darryl DuFay: That was the event very valuable option, I know what you're talking about they're usually raise pieces of metal. 158 00:27:36.810 --> 00:27:42.810 Cassie B: yeah yeah anyways just kind of food for thought at least have them on until the city can. 159 00:27:43.920 --> 00:27:45.930 Cassie B: do something about it yeah. 160 00:27:46.320 --> 00:27:48.150 Cassie B: So, to prevent further damage. 161 00:27:50.580 --> 00:27:53.850 Charles Rosin: Helen if you're out there with you, are you. 162 00:27:54.180 --> 00:27:55.800 Charles Rosin: Take a couple of photographs of the. 163 00:27:55.800 --> 00:27:58.020 Charles Rosin: places that are most. 164 00:27:59.070 --> 00:28:03.300 Charles Rosin: deteriorated and so that that we have that, for the record that we can. 165 00:28:03.390 --> 00:28:08.940 Helen Fallon: i'm happy to because there's damage on least I think three out of the four bridges, you know. 166 00:28:09.750 --> 00:28:10.200 Charles Rosin: Thank you. 167 00:28:10.230 --> 00:28:12.330 Helen Fallon: cracks chunks whatever you know. 168 00:28:13.470 --> 00:28:16.530 Helen Fallon: All right, i'll take him i'll just send them launch a daffodil is that. 169 00:28:19.080 --> 00:28:20.910 Helen Fallon: i'll send them to you chuck i've got your email. 170 00:28:22.860 --> 00:28:27.090 reta moser: I think the best solution to that is get somebody from public works. 171 00:28:27.420 --> 00:28:34.650 reta moser: Just come on in in and see the the the damage that is being caused by this. 172 00:28:35.910 --> 00:28:36.570 reta moser: If we said. 173 00:28:38.220 --> 00:28:38.910 Daffodil Tyminski: hold on one SEC. 174 00:28:39.960 --> 00:28:42.270 Daffodil Tyminski: hold on i'm trying to fix my computer. 175 00:28:48.510 --> 00:28:48.960 Daffodil Tyminski: Sorry. 176 00:28:50.370 --> 00:28:51.570 control the last. 177 00:28:54.840 --> 00:28:55.230 Daffodil Tyminski: God. 178 00:28:55.710 --> 00:28:56.700 Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead, I think i'm. 179 00:28:56.910 --> 00:29:04.590 reta moser: working on it sorry he can okay so anything we send in there just gonna throw it into the corner, but I think if. 180 00:29:05.460 --> 00:29:13.890 reta moser: Somebody has to be somebody from the canals to i'm going to find out who's in who's really in charge and i'll get back to you. 181 00:29:14.190 --> 00:29:25.410 reta moser: But to bring out somebody and and actually have them look at it, I think it's the best way to start getting some solutions to it, just like we did when we want the. 182 00:29:26.100 --> 00:29:37.260 reta moser: stoplights on board I bought I brought somebody out to see the problems that we were having we've got out there to see the to see the problem and get some solutions done. 183 00:29:40.050 --> 00:29:40.920 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay that's great. 184 00:29:42.180 --> 00:29:43.920 Daffodil Tyminski: All right, I think this. 185 00:29:47.070 --> 00:29:48.870 Daffodil Tyminski: hold on one second i'm going to. 186 00:29:51.930 --> 00:29:53.640 Daffodil Tyminski: quit I think I figured this out. 187 00:29:58.170 --> 00:29:59.160 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, can you hear me. 188 00:29:59.970 --> 00:30:00.450 yeah. 189 00:30:06.600 --> 00:30:07.410 Daffodil Tyminski: Can you guys hear me. 190 00:30:07.710 --> 00:30:09.540 Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, yes, oh perfect okay great. 191 00:30:10.170 --> 00:30:12.060 Daffodil Tyminski: Great okay so. 192 00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:24.810 Daffodil Tyminski: let's go on to the next, the next item, and going back to some old business so pickle ball um I. 193 00:30:27.060 --> 00:30:45.630 Daffodil Tyminski: I have a potential solution for where to put pickle ball invests that i've been working on and it turns out, I know, we had someone come and pitch like putting it in pen mar and sharing with tennis and then every sort of group got upset tennis got upset paddle tennis got upset. 194 00:30:47.010 --> 00:31:02.370 Daffodil Tyminski: And then I noticed, as I was walking around pen mark that at the pin mark golf club if you're facing the entrance on rose to the left hand side there's actually a lot of dead space that I think used to be the old driving range that was decommissioned. 195 00:31:02.610 --> 00:31:03.210 reta moser: Oh yeah. 196 00:31:04.050 --> 00:31:06.630 Daffodil Tyminski: And how about I mean people ball tennis courts. 197 00:31:06.660 --> 00:31:08.340 Daffodil Tyminski: Are PIC of all courts are really small. 198 00:31:09.360 --> 00:31:14.550 Daffodil Tyminski: So I talked to them about it and they'd be more than happy to put some ports there. 199 00:31:15.660 --> 00:31:16.170 reta moser: There you go. 200 00:31:16.470 --> 00:31:20.700 Daffodil Tyminski: And I think you could probably fit like four ports and. 201 00:31:21.780 --> 00:31:33.240 Daffodil Tyminski: I actually think that you know the golf course gets us but it doesn't get the kind of heavy use that a lot of the other parks get so there's probably also just some space to absorb you know people there. 202 00:31:33.810 --> 00:31:36.210 reta moser: And they've got ample parking there too yeah. 203 00:31:36.300 --> 00:31:45.060 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah there's I mean there will be street parking returned eventually to and plus there's refreshments there so pickle ball tends to be a pretty social thing from what I gather. 204 00:31:46.500 --> 00:31:49.260 Daffodil Tyminski: So same as pedal bar bar. 205 00:31:50.790 --> 00:31:58.800 Daffodil Tyminski: it's it's a little different it's um the courts, a little bit different size there's some different rules, and I think it's a soccer ball. 206 00:31:59.100 --> 00:32:00.750 reta moser: yeah it's not a strenuous. 207 00:32:01.980 --> 00:32:05.490 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay um so. 208 00:32:06.510 --> 00:32:10.410 Daffodil Tyminski: So anyway um i'll let you guys know i'm working on it. 209 00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:19.050 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay yeah I just think it'd be nice for them to get their own spot and this way, no one, no one is taken away from anything and. 210 00:32:20.430 --> 00:32:26.730 Charles Rosin: So also I think it's a really good location, because it's not near too many residential houses right. 211 00:32:27.990 --> 00:32:43.410 Charles Rosin: Because I guess, one of the things i've learned about pick a ball is that the actual stroke of the typical ball itself is pretty can be pretty noisy and that's some people's criticism of it, I mean excessive wasting not just. 212 00:32:44.670 --> 00:32:46.890 Charles Rosin: Like a tennis ball word or or paddleball. 213 00:32:47.700 --> 00:32:48.180 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah. 214 00:32:48.480 --> 00:32:54.570 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah it can be easy, and I know we have it at the club, I belong to and on the side, where. 215 00:32:55.260 --> 00:33:03.210 Daffodil Tyminski: there's pickle ball there's actually houses, on the other side of it, but they now make this fencing that's kind of like a heavy mass loaded vinyl. 216 00:33:03.900 --> 00:33:14.940 Daffodil Tyminski: That they put up on the fences that really Dennis typical all sounds so there are houses across the street on rose But aside from the distance I think their sound mitigation that now is pretty widely used for it. 217 00:33:17.400 --> 00:33:23.040 Charles Rosin: definitely does this become a public project, or is this sport remember some of them were talking about right but. 218 00:33:24.420 --> 00:33:28.710 Daffodil Tyminski: This is all public i'm sorry when I said club, I actually belong to a club in rancho mirage, but. 219 00:33:30.150 --> 00:33:34.440 Daffodil Tyminski: I know this is public know it's public la sports anyone can sign up. 220 00:33:35.970 --> 00:33:42.330 Daffodil Tyminski: The pickle ball organization as i've learned is like really well organized and they do all kinds of like. 221 00:33:44.250 --> 00:34:00.840 Daffodil Tyminski: clinics and outings and tournaments and Pickles really easy to play so they do a lot of pickup things, or you know, particularly focused on seniors like senior social thing so know the hope would be that would be just another amenity offered in our la parks. 222 00:34:02.310 --> 00:34:10.800 Charles Rosin: What it is, it is it expensive process, what are these words i'm, not that I care, I will do it, but nonetheless I just curious. 223 00:34:11.340 --> 00:34:22.590 Daffodil Tyminski: Well, so they don't pick a ball courts don't require all of the fencing around each particular port so we're really talking about doing the hard surface, which is basically. 224 00:34:22.860 --> 00:34:24.150 Daffodil Tyminski: You know, concrete and. 225 00:34:24.540 --> 00:34:25.530 Daffodil Tyminski: finishing and painting. 226 00:34:26.670 --> 00:34:31.410 Daffodil Tyminski: Exactly what that cost in terms of city construction I don't know. 227 00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:34.050 Daffodil Tyminski: When there is funding out there for it. 228 00:34:34.350 --> 00:34:38.040 reta moser: But it has to be done in a very special way, so they don't hurt themselves. 229 00:34:38.940 --> 00:34:44.460 Daffodil Tyminski: Right, I mean whoever i'm sure they'll have to have a professional court person finishes just like if you were building a tennis court. 230 00:34:45.450 --> 00:34:53.550 Daffodil Tyminski: But, unlike in paddle tennis, for example, like each each court needs its own cage so that's actually pretty expensive because you need a lot of tall fencing. 231 00:34:54.600 --> 00:35:00.000 Daffodil Tyminski: pickle ball courts, they probably just line you know they probably do one big concrete thing and line them up, one by one. 232 00:35:02.130 --> 00:35:18.300 Daffodil Tyminski: So obviously These are all things it was like miraculous to me to even find a spot with people willing to engage and parks saying oh that's a good idea and the pen mar restaurant folks were like yeah we're great with that will you know give you the space and all that so. 233 00:35:19.590 --> 00:35:20.280 Daffodil Tyminski: more to come. 234 00:35:21.360 --> 00:35:21.840 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm. 235 00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:23.790 Darryl DuFay: gonna do. 236 00:35:24.030 --> 00:35:24.690 yesterday. 237 00:35:25.980 --> 00:35:31.170 Darryl DuFay: yeah oh nicki heart was my neighbor that brought this to our attention. 238 00:35:33.060 --> 00:35:54.750 Darryl DuFay: And she has spent hours and hours on it, I sent her a copy of today's meeting and I don't know if she's watching or not, but I, it would be very would be very nice if you could contact her or incentive or whatever you're going to send out she has a real you know she's really into it. 239 00:35:54.780 --> 00:35:57.450 Darryl DuFay: So it's a great resource. 240 00:35:58.020 --> 00:36:08.970 Daffodil Tyminski: I absolutely will in fact i've been speaking with her, I did not talk to her about this last piece, because I didn't know until just a day or two ago that this was even going to be possible. 241 00:36:09.030 --> 00:36:11.100 Darryl DuFay: Well that's what I did I just. 242 00:36:11.160 --> 00:36:13.350 Darryl DuFay: that's why I just sent her a copy of. 243 00:36:13.350 --> 00:36:19.710 Darryl DuFay: today's meeting and she could have she could she could get on and watch it I don't know if she is or not. 244 00:36:20.340 --> 00:36:21.990 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, I don't see that she's here. 245 00:36:22.530 --> 00:36:22.890 Daffodil Tyminski: I. 246 00:36:23.100 --> 00:36:24.480 Daffodil Tyminski: I will reach out to her today. 247 00:36:24.720 --> 00:36:25.560 Okay, I didn't. 248 00:36:27.420 --> 00:36:33.480 Daffodil Tyminski: I didn't really want to reach out and and bring the prospect of something that like was definitely not going to work. 249 00:36:33.600 --> 00:36:38.520 Darryl DuFay: Right that's like that's why I just I says i'm just gonna let her say that we have a meeting. 250 00:36:39.060 --> 00:36:40.140 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay awesome. 251 00:36:42.120 --> 00:36:44.700 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so sidewalks JEREMY gave us a little bit of. 252 00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:49.440 Daffodil Tyminski: Information earlier but checked anything to update on the sidewalks. 253 00:36:50.130 --> 00:36:57.480 Charles Rosin: I sent you the pictures a couple of weeks ago and you rightly said, well they're bad, but they're not nearly as bad as my. 254 00:36:59.010 --> 00:36:59.460 Daffodil Tyminski: You. 255 00:36:59.670 --> 00:37:01.350 Charles Rosin: know my pictures are in so. 256 00:37:01.590 --> 00:37:13.620 Charles Rosin: It can be included and I gave I gave restaurants, I just think, the more the merrier even if it's not the worst you've ever seen by the way, I probably seen two to three in the south area. 257 00:37:14.520 --> 00:37:22.260 Charles Rosin: Like 28th street's out at this point that are just horrendous but street clue is a street that's just a bad shape. 258 00:37:22.770 --> 00:37:27.690 Charles Rosin: yeah sidewalk was so we will you pick a street and then as you're going to find. 259 00:37:29.070 --> 00:37:39.180 Charles Rosin: What what what we do with it, you know with our candidates and as elected officials are going to really help us with it i'm not sure. 260 00:37:42.060 --> 00:37:49.020 Daffodil Tyminski: If anyone else has any photos about sidewalks I think there's two things going on here one, some of them just do need immediate repair. 261 00:37:51.810 --> 00:38:00.720 Daffodil Tyminski: And so, obviously we want immediate things fixed, but I think we also need to get the city to just acknowledge that we need a bigger sidewalk Program. 262 00:38:01.650 --> 00:38:09.000 Daffodil Tyminski: And I forget now the name of the settlement it's like the man see me settlement or something like that you know the problem is, is that. 263 00:38:09.510 --> 00:38:18.810 Daffodil Tyminski: The city, will take the position that if they come out and fix the sidewalk the homeowner Jason to that sidewalk is now forever more responsible for fixing it. 264 00:38:20.370 --> 00:38:25.230 Daffodil Tyminski: And so I know with JEREMY Jeremy and I live in our neighborhood that's I think one of the problems is a. 265 00:38:25.230 --> 00:38:25.770 Daffodil Tyminski: lot of. 266 00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:32.460 Daffodil Tyminski: The houses around us or Rentals so none of the landlords will agree to fix the sidewalks. 267 00:38:32.490 --> 00:38:35.310 reta moser: Well they're also liable to yeah that's true. 268 00:38:35.640 --> 00:38:44.250 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah and for shockingly where we live to because it's such a tourist it street like i'm shocked that more people are tripping and falling and hurting themselves. 269 00:38:44.940 --> 00:38:57.930 Daffodil Tyminski: But anyway, I think the goal is to get a map together and we'll put some photos on there get it to the city, if anyone else has any other photos just let me know, and let me know where they are. 270 00:38:59.460 --> 00:39:07.680 Daffodil Tyminski: email them to me, and then we had I had been talking to someone in bonds office who left. 271 00:39:09.300 --> 00:39:11.430 Charles Rosin: So unusual someone left on his office. 272 00:39:11.700 --> 00:39:14.820 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah I know I know, and then I got somebody else who was like Oh, what are you. 273 00:39:14.820 --> 00:39:26.940 Daffodil Tyminski: Talking about and I get you know circling and people, but I think we need to get maybe to someone directly downtown and then try to work through whoever the link that start with bonds office basically. 274 00:39:29.160 --> 00:39:31.440 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, great so let's go on, we had a. 275 00:39:33.480 --> 00:39:42.780 Daffodil Tyminski: We had a request to the general request line for the limit of mobile psychiatric response teams and Brian Avril submitted the request. 276 00:39:43.920 --> 00:39:47.940 Daffodil Tyminski: I don't see Brian on but I don't know that he would have to be here necessarily for this one. 277 00:39:49.200 --> 00:39:57.720 Daffodil Tyminski: This is a motion to have the city designate Venice is a location for the deployment of newly announced psychiatric mobile response teams and. 278 00:40:00.270 --> 00:40:11.700 Daffodil Tyminski: I think you can gather from this that the city is starting this new program and they picked I think four locations in the city or five locations in the city and Venice was not one of them, which seems to be. 279 00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:13.110 Daffodil Tyminski: Completely third. 280 00:40:15.210 --> 00:40:16.770 Charles Rosin: Either it's sort of vindictive. 281 00:40:18.810 --> 00:40:20.100 Daffodil Tyminski: Even absurd than what. 282 00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:23.100 Charles Rosin: Either absurd or vindictive. 283 00:40:23.190 --> 00:40:24.180 Daffodil Tyminski: Oh yes. 284 00:40:25.650 --> 00:40:26.790 Daffodil Tyminski: Right equally possible. 285 00:40:27.150 --> 00:40:32.970 reta moser: Is that Brian earth, oh no oh okay oh yeah no. 286 00:40:34.290 --> 00:40:46.350 Daffodil Tyminski: um yeah, so this is curious, I mean part of me and by, by the way, I put the motion on the floor, and let me just read out for the record, or anyone attending by phone only. 287 00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:51.810 Daffodil Tyminski: The rest of the motion, and then, if I can get a second we'll take some public comment, then we can discuss it. 288 00:40:53.640 --> 00:41:02.730 Daffodil Tyminski: So the motion is, whereas the city and county of Los Angeles, along with the Department of mental health recently announced the deployment of psychiatric mobile response teams, based in five. 289 00:41:03.120 --> 00:41:09.570 Daffodil Tyminski: la fd locations around the city and whereas Venice inexplicably, not one of these locations. 290 00:41:09.900 --> 00:41:17.790 Daffodil Tyminski: Therefore, be it resolved at the Venice neighborhood Council request that a team be based here in Venice with letter sent to mayor Eric garcetti LSD. 291 00:41:18.150 --> 00:41:33.870 Daffodil Tyminski: Chief Ralph to ross's councilman bonnen councilman Rodriguez supervisor hilda sully's Los Angeles county department of mental health deputy director Miriam Brown and lapd Captain Stephen m brick and then there's a link on the agenda to more information. 292 00:41:34.200 --> 00:41:36.120 reta moser: Do I have a second on the motion seconded. 293 00:41:36.990 --> 00:41:38.190 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, thanks Yolanda. 294 00:41:43.980 --> 00:41:51.210 Daffodil Tyminski: And so let's take some public comment i'm Helen I see you're here, and you should be okay to talk. 295 00:41:53.130 --> 00:42:06.090 Helen Fallon: um yeah, I just wanted to mention that maybe you want to reach out to achieve hogan because he's the one who seems to be I think he talked about this that wasted, I heard him in a marvelous to meeting and I think it's the best meeting and. 296 00:42:06.120 --> 00:42:06.840 Daffodil Tyminski: He did yeah. 297 00:42:07.020 --> 00:42:20.190 Helen Fallon: And, and what the rationale was behind putting it over there in West la is it just a look at you know, a matter of they didn't have a locate you know there's no space here in Venice, or you know. 298 00:42:21.390 --> 00:42:26.490 Helen Fallon: Where that the circle program is supposed to substitute for this, which we won't even talk about. 299 00:42:27.510 --> 00:42:28.290 Helen Fallon: So I. 300 00:42:29.820 --> 00:42:40.410 Helen Fallon: I agree that we need this service, but I think it'd be interesting to know what they how they concluded that there, it can be located here or closer to us. 301 00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:51.810 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks it's a great idea thanks home i'm chuck go ahead, so I guess the only member of the public here so we're going to close public comment and took go ahead with the. 302 00:42:52.470 --> 00:42:58.920 Charles Rosin: What my question is this and Helen you probably know the answer one of you i've been reading about. 303 00:43:00.510 --> 00:43:01.380 Charles Rosin: Very well written. 304 00:43:03.480 --> 00:43:13.350 Charles Rosin: emails from john Betts about talking about what went on the senior Center and wasn't that where they wanted to do something like this as well or am I completely confused. 305 00:43:14.130 --> 00:43:15.180 Helen Fallon: Now those are two different. 306 00:43:15.180 --> 00:43:16.290 Helen Fallon: programs chuck. 307 00:43:16.560 --> 00:43:21.390 Helen Fallon: The circle program is completely different it's run it's not out of the fire department. 308 00:43:23.010 --> 00:43:25.470 Charles Rosin: But it's the same kind of thing like mental. 309 00:43:26.610 --> 00:43:27.090 Helen Fallon: white. 310 00:43:28.860 --> 00:43:34.740 Helen Fallon: Details of the fire department one but there's is more of a I think paramedic it's. 311 00:43:35.310 --> 00:43:36.060 it's yeah. 312 00:43:37.290 --> 00:43:40.740 Daffodil Tyminski: I can tell by an outside group that doesn't. 313 00:43:41.190 --> 00:43:43.470 Charles Rosin: Know that's right urban alchemy, is the other. 314 00:43:43.530 --> 00:43:51.120 Helen Fallon: yeah exactly and that's not exactly I like I said i'm not going into it, I think the circle programs to disaster anyway. 315 00:43:51.990 --> 00:43:56.580 Daffodil Tyminski: The circle program, and this is Dan i'm sorry to jump in but the circle program is um. 316 00:43:57.540 --> 00:44:08.490 Daffodil Tyminski: Is not run by professional crisis response people they are people with as far as I can tell, with almost no training and who were either formerly homeless or formerly in prison. 317 00:44:09.180 --> 00:44:17.760 Daffodil Tyminski: Who, for whatever reason, somebody thinks they're more able to reach vulnerable populations, I think the fire department program is having actual qualified. 318 00:44:18.840 --> 00:44:20.610 Daffodil Tyminski: psychiatric response people. 319 00:44:22.530 --> 00:44:23.190 Daffodil Tyminski: deployed. 320 00:44:25.680 --> 00:44:28.410 Daffodil Tyminski: So go ahead, I let me take. 321 00:44:29.850 --> 00:44:31.500 Daffodil Tyminski: comment here Darrell go ahead. 322 00:44:32.250 --> 00:44:36.390 Darryl DuFay: Yes, i'm looking at it i'm seeing that it's the only fire department. 323 00:44:38.070 --> 00:44:47.130 Darryl DuFay: And in terms of what you're sending information to, I was hilda solis just the only supervisor. 324 00:44:49.140 --> 00:44:50.820 Darryl DuFay: it's it's indicated. 325 00:44:52.170 --> 00:44:55.710 Darryl DuFay: Because she's she's not connected with Venice at all. 326 00:44:56.790 --> 00:44:58.140 reta moser: She doesn't care either. 327 00:44:59.190 --> 00:45:01.410 Darryl DuFay: Okay, but having said that. 328 00:45:03.240 --> 00:45:21.660 Darryl DuFay: It would same first of all sheila kills turned out so that's a that's a new person, but she's still there and then second something that I wanted to talk to later was the part of Venice, that is no longer in see and supervisor. 329 00:45:23.640 --> 00:45:44.700 Darryl DuFay: tools number three is now in number two so was that would be holly Mitchell, so it was just a comment, it seems to me that, is there a way to get information you want about it before you sent a lot of stuff to them. 330 00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:57.450 Darryl DuFay: It seems to me if you have already focused down and we talked to this this and this and they said this this and this if you just send it out it, it seems to me and be. 331 00:45:58.380 --> 00:45:59.730 reta moser: a waste of time right now. 332 00:46:00.750 --> 00:46:06.420 reta moser: Until we get know the new supervisor who's elected to the position. 333 00:46:08.340 --> 00:46:21.930 Darryl DuFay: I mean I i've read a blog eyebrow about about the programs that they're trying and I had not heard the description that you gave on circle, but it's interesting just the question. 334 00:46:22.350 --> 00:46:26.940 Darryl DuFay: i'm trying to focus it down so when they get something they can focus in rather than, say. 335 00:46:27.960 --> 00:46:30.150 Darryl DuFay: Well we'll get to a run, we can get to it. 336 00:46:31.320 --> 00:46:32.460 Darryl DuFay: that's it Thank you. 337 00:46:33.360 --> 00:46:33.960 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you. 338 00:46:35.310 --> 00:46:47.340 Charles Rosin: I had an additional question i'm Jeff and that's basically Brian isn't here, but why did they not what other parts did they choose what were the other ones, who I wasn't Venice one of those. 339 00:46:48.390 --> 00:46:52.230 Charles Rosin: You know, in other words, is there some reason that Venice is more. 340 00:46:53.370 --> 00:47:03.780 Charles Rosin: Difficult it wasn't eligible or there were other places that had money, I mean, why did those I were we excluded because when you think of homelessness in the city of Los Angeles. 341 00:47:06.030 --> 00:47:11.460 Charles Rosin: Hollywood Venice, of the three areas that come up I think most people would answer first place. 342 00:47:12.360 --> 00:47:15.540 Charles Rosin: yeah so i'm surprised, why we work. 343 00:47:17.400 --> 00:47:18.900 Charles Rosin: With Brian know the answer to that. 344 00:47:20.010 --> 00:47:30.630 Daffodil Tyminski: I believe from having I had a brief conversation with Brian about it, I think we don't know and that's why I think he put in the motion venice's inexplicably, not one of the locations. 345 00:47:32.220 --> 00:47:40.560 Daffodil Tyminski: Because it just would seem to make such sense to have Venice on there, I suspect, and Helen I will reach out to achieve hogan. 346 00:47:41.430 --> 00:47:46.080 Daffodil Tyminski: Because he did mention our last meeting that they were trying to look at options like this. 347 00:47:46.740 --> 00:47:57.720 Daffodil Tyminski: I suspected are we're a little underserved by the fire department in our area, and I think that's more logistics than anything else you know they have a lot of calls and they're small small ladder. 348 00:47:58.650 --> 00:48:05.280 Daffodil Tyminski: So I wonder if they just thought Oh, this might be more than that one patient can handle but um. 349 00:48:05.640 --> 00:48:07.050 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah yeah. 350 00:48:07.230 --> 00:48:08.820 reta moser: May I make a suggestion. 351 00:48:09.150 --> 00:48:10.200 reta moser: You know, or I. 352 00:48:10.920 --> 00:48:16.530 reta moser: have dealt with the fire department for a long time, and I know they're public servants, but. 353 00:48:16.860 --> 00:48:23.520 reta moser: Let me tell you something if you approach them and you ask them what their needs are they'll come forward and say this is what we need. 354 00:48:23.850 --> 00:48:32.130 reta moser: In our fire department here is really I mean they're I think they're overwhelmed with the amount of calls that they get. 355 00:48:32.610 --> 00:48:41.520 reta moser: on just two blocks away, and I will approach the captain and i'm going to tell him ask him, maybe I can go with Brian and. 356 00:48:41.910 --> 00:48:49.980 reta moser: The best thing we can do is request because we never get a really report from the fire department we're always getting a report from the police department. 357 00:48:50.520 --> 00:48:57.390 reta moser: But I think our fire department is underserved here in Venice and they need, they need some some assistance. 358 00:48:57.690 --> 00:49:04.650 reta moser: And if they can request it, just like when the alleys are blocked the fire department can overrule and saying get. 359 00:49:04.980 --> 00:49:09.390 reta moser: Leave the alleys open or leave the streets open, because we need to get through. 360 00:49:09.750 --> 00:49:20.880 reta moser: But I think if we can get the fire department to request from the Community to help them and what their needs are will get a better response and let's have Brian. 361 00:49:21.420 --> 00:49:35.850 reta moser: tell us how is it that other places got it when we didn't get it, but let's look up i'll see if we can approach let's we can approach the fire department, because every time i've asked him to come to our neighborhood Council meetings to report back they show up. 362 00:49:37.170 --> 00:49:41.370 Daffodil Tyminski: And they've been showing up they've been reporting doing really great reports. 363 00:49:41.460 --> 00:49:52.650 reta moser: I know, but let's let's let's approach the captain and let's ask him what are your needs and what would you like the Community to help you at this moment to. 364 00:49:53.850 --> 00:50:02.490 reta moser: You know, get this get the help that they need, because I mean i'm just a couple blocks and I hear them all night going all day go on yeah. 365 00:50:03.330 --> 00:50:14.790 reta moser: So I think our best approach would be to go and find out what their needs are, and then we can then the Community can request what the fire department is in need of. 366 00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:26.130 Charles Rosin: I want to just said, I hear I hear the sirens all night wake me up wake me up at five these these talk about maybe Maybe it was there were. 367 00:50:26.910 --> 00:50:29.340 Charles Rosin: So overloaded with the exactly. 368 00:50:30.450 --> 00:50:41.970 Daffodil Tyminski: All right, so and, by the way, Darrell, I just wanted to answer your question why hilda so Lisa not chillin chillin holly Mitchell, I don't know I didn't write it, but we could certainly when we're ready to make the motion amended to. 369 00:50:43.890 --> 00:50:46.080 Daffodil Tyminski: You include you know the other people. 370 00:50:47.520 --> 00:50:58.680 Daffodil Tyminski: So it sounds like the Committee is leaning toward giving this one more month and finding out what the fire department wants to have happen so we don't just force something on them unwittingly. 371 00:50:59.310 --> 00:51:00.390 reta moser: I have a very say. 372 00:51:00.900 --> 00:51:02.940 reta moser: I have a connection now with holly's. 373 00:51:04.410 --> 00:51:14.910 reta moser: district, because I had to contact them regarding that they were planning on moving the homeless encampment over to the Marina and one of her supervisors. 374 00:51:15.600 --> 00:51:29.430 reta moser: One of her field deputies was very kind to me, and he asked me if I needed anything to contact him and I have a great relationship with barger too, and I need to get to hear this ELISE on this one. 375 00:51:30.840 --> 00:51:44.130 reta moser: I know her very well and i'm sure that we need to approach these people directly we just they don't like to be sent anything once you approach them it's better because. 376 00:51:45.240 --> 00:51:51.330 reta moser: They don't like to be put on a bad rap but, once you approach them then it's a different story okay. 377 00:51:51.570 --> 00:51:52.350 Cassie B: So, yes. 378 00:51:52.440 --> 00:51:52.830 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm going to. 379 00:51:53.760 --> 00:52:01.230 Cassie B: Excuse me if I can read it, you said, who was, could you please mentioning about the homeless in minor. 380 00:52:02.910 --> 00:52:03.810 Daffodil Tyminski: That was Yolanda. 381 00:52:04.380 --> 00:52:06.180 Cassie B: Oh, Stephen Yolanda sorry. 382 00:52:09.090 --> 00:52:17.220 Daffodil Tyminski: um so what I will, I know I there's a motion on the floor i'm going to move that we put this on next month's agenda. 383 00:52:18.420 --> 00:52:22.860 Daffodil Tyminski: And Yolanda if you want to take point obviously just call me i'll help with whatever. 384 00:52:23.370 --> 00:52:24.090 reta moser: Okay sweetie. 385 00:52:24.150 --> 00:52:26.730 Daffodil Tyminski: And then let's revisit this next month, is it sounds good. 386 00:52:26.940 --> 00:52:28.440 reta moser: yeah yeah we can work on it. 387 00:52:28.920 --> 00:52:32.040 Daffodil Tyminski: All right, can we take a so i'm going to. 388 00:52:32.700 --> 00:52:36.390 reta moser: I second that we move it to the to an agenda for next month. 389 00:52:36.540 --> 00:52:39.360 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay does anyone, if you have an objection here raise your hand. 390 00:52:40.800 --> 00:52:41.580 Daffodil Tyminski: like this easier. 391 00:52:43.320 --> 00:52:45.330 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, seeing no hands and we'll we'll. 392 00:52:46.620 --> 00:52:47.970 Daffodil Tyminski: move this to next month. 393 00:52:49.980 --> 00:52:56.220 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, the next item is about the Olympics, this also, I think, will be an ongoing discussion. 394 00:52:57.510 --> 00:53:12.750 Daffodil Tyminski: it's a lengthy motion, the upshot of it is the Olympics are coming in 2028 The city is picked or is in the middle of picking its locations for the Olympics and again inexplicably Venice was left off the list. 395 00:53:14.520 --> 00:53:22.560 Daffodil Tyminski: Now, I think we all know why that probably happened but i'm going to read out the motion see if I have a second, and we can discuss it, but I. 396 00:53:23.070 --> 00:53:25.590 Daffodil Tyminski: suspect that with this may be something we continue as well. 397 00:53:26.520 --> 00:53:35.910 Daffodil Tyminski: Whereas the 2028 Summer Olympics, is a $1.7 billion 17 day international extravaganza that will take place here in Los Angeles and multiple sites and locations. 398 00:53:36.300 --> 00:53:41.820 Daffodil Tyminski: Whereas the Community and neighborhood of Venice has not been designated for any events as per the La website. 399 00:53:42.450 --> 00:53:48.120 Daffodil Tyminski: Whereas all the water related and skate related events are currently reserved for Santa Monica beach and long beach. 400 00:53:48.570 --> 00:53:56.760 Daffodil Tyminski: Whereas is the number one tourist destination California, that is free, it is disturbing that the neighborhood of Venice has been left out, and not part of these 2028 summer game events. 401 00:53:57.300 --> 00:54:01.110 Daffodil Tyminski: Whereas the President of Venice neighborhood Council has the authority to appoint. 402 00:54:01.740 --> 00:54:08.670 Daffodil Tyminski: A quote ad hoc committee that will report back to the full board as it is stated preferences, as President, that such work be done at the committee level. 403 00:54:09.150 --> 00:54:15.720 Daffodil Tyminski: Therefore, be it resolved that the President of Venice neighborhood Council appoint a willing and able individual to chair a 2020 Olympics review committee. 404 00:54:16.020 --> 00:54:20.850 Daffodil Tyminski: and create a mission statement that will give this neighborhood of voice in a process that is not engaged this Community. 405 00:54:21.270 --> 00:54:27.060 Daffodil Tyminski: And that our voice be heard, and that we make we make it known that Venice has been unfortunately ignored and passed over. 406 00:54:27.360 --> 00:54:32.850 Daffodil Tyminski: which needs to be corrected and that this ad hoc committee be created, no longer than the March meeting of the Venice neighborhood Council. 407 00:54:33.180 --> 00:54:37.230 Daffodil Tyminski: to correct the conditions which has the Venice Community left out, and under represented. 408 00:54:38.100 --> 00:54:47.820 Daffodil Tyminski: Be at further resolved at the Venice neighborhood Council advertised for this ad hoc chair, so that the individuals can apply and provide the President with choices for chairperson, as well as members of the 2028 Olympic review committee. 409 00:54:51.990 --> 00:54:53.430 Daffodil Tyminski: Do I have a second on the motion. 410 00:54:54.120 --> 00:54:54.840 reta moser: I suck at it. 411 00:54:55.080 --> 00:54:55.890 Jeremy Loeb: I second it. 412 00:54:56.520 --> 00:54:58.440 Daffodil Tyminski: Yolanda JEREMY okay we'll give this one to JEREMY. 413 00:55:01.710 --> 00:55:02.370 Jeremy Loeb: that's too bad. 414 00:55:03.840 --> 00:55:05.190 Daffodil Tyminski: You can take it back. 415 00:55:05.940 --> 00:55:08.730 Jeremy Loeb: No, I said that's too bad that we're not getting any any any love. 416 00:55:09.360 --> 00:55:14.250 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah all right let's let's discuss it one second let's take some public comment here first. 417 00:55:15.060 --> 00:55:16.140 Daffodil Tyminski: Does anyone. 418 00:55:18.840 --> 00:55:21.630 Daffodil Tyminski: And Helen i'm basically talking to you because you're the only member of the public. 419 00:55:22.830 --> 00:55:24.180 Daffodil Tyminski: Is there anything you want to say. 420 00:55:26.250 --> 00:55:33.030 Helen Fallon: I think this is Nick has been trying to get this, I think, for the last couple of months I think it's bounced around. 421 00:55:34.500 --> 00:55:48.090 Helen Fallon: I agree that it might be a good idea if there's people interested in this issue, to get them together so they kind of monitor what's going on and sort of lobby on the art behalf of we want some events here, and the sooner they get started, the better it is. 422 00:55:50.310 --> 00:55:56.430 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, thanks Helen okay so we'll close public comment and go to the board chuck I see you have your hand raised why don't you go ahead. 423 00:55:58.920 --> 00:56:02.280 Charles Rosin: On this one, so a couple of things, one is that. 424 00:56:04.050 --> 00:56:05.010 Charles Rosin: One of the reasons that I. 425 00:56:06.180 --> 00:56:08.340 Charles Rosin: was able to get the. 426 00:56:10.020 --> 00:56:23.460 Charles Rosin: Olympics here is because they didn't have to do too much building, they have to do too much physically we already had pauley pavilion and staple Center or whatever it's called now or Coliseum are all the places that were there in the 84 Olympics. 427 00:56:24.780 --> 00:56:28.110 Charles Rosin: In terms of water, if I remember the. 428 00:56:29.130 --> 00:56:32.790 Charles Rosin: reader Yolanda darryl at you remember the 84 Olympics. 429 00:56:32.940 --> 00:56:40.620 Charles Rosin: yeah remember where the sites where they were down a lot we're down in long beach the water ones, because they have channels. 430 00:56:41.400 --> 00:56:50.430 Charles Rosin: And that they had things that were now, we obviously have a channel in the Marina too, but I don't know in terms of you know it's funny it's almost like the things that we don't. 431 00:56:50.880 --> 00:57:00.840 Charles Rosin: Have a lot here in Venice like parking and really great a transportation we we you know if you could not compare let's say the long beach just for size alone. 432 00:57:01.350 --> 00:57:17.400 Charles Rosin: But the one thing is to remember, and I think Venice should remember this and that is one thing I want to say about it, after that, but the thing that we should remember in Haiti for is not all, of the Olympic activities were athletic. 433 00:57:18.630 --> 00:57:28.800 Charles Rosin: We at that point we lived in a circle, so we live right by the county art museum and there was a lot of stuff going on, it was the optical shows there was just a lot and finish to take a. 434 00:57:29.490 --> 00:57:42.720 Charles Rosin: Major lead in the cultural examination of the city of Los Angeles, as part of this rather than, say we should be hosting an event and what are we going to have the street get with me on three at the basketball court. 435 00:57:43.230 --> 00:57:52.260 Charles Rosin: Or the pickup pickup ball will be coming to an Olympic event, but I do think that there are ways to do that, but I think that it is. 436 00:57:53.430 --> 00:58:08.220 Charles Rosin: not really aware of what the water sports things are you would not use our beach to do surfing in summer, it will you know when you have to pay anger or malibu you it's just a lot of water sports things that aren't great for. 437 00:58:09.450 --> 00:58:21.750 Charles Rosin: You know that we have to offer we have this other one what I my thing that I think that more is interesting and I just want to share this with you about our Olympic Committee, headed by case he wants to watch him his grandson. 438 00:58:24.060 --> 00:58:25.410 Charles Rosin: Is the fact that when. 439 00:58:28.620 --> 00:58:33.300 Charles Rosin: When they got the contract when we want the when someone I know. 440 00:58:34.380 --> 00:58:45.240 Charles Rosin: The really the one will person I know actively involved with issues pertaining to housing and homelessness out of Santa Monica man named Gary foster. 441 00:58:46.080 --> 00:58:55.440 Charles Rosin: A producer with the movie the soloist actually went to case you asked him and said, what are you going to do to help us with homeless, he said that's not our that's not our problem that's a serious problem. 442 00:58:56.400 --> 00:59:05.040 Charles Rosin: So these people care these people don't have they have one agenda and that is to make this a very big success for them and their and their vendors. 443 00:59:05.940 --> 00:59:15.090 Charles Rosin: Is, these are not friends of the Communities or say, however, I do believe that they'll have to be friends with the Community because they're things that they have to. 444 00:59:15.870 --> 00:59:20.700 Charles Rosin: step up and do, and one of them would be how to include communities like Venice. 445 00:59:21.570 --> 00:59:31.320 Charles Rosin: lots of other places in our city that they may not be you know so focused on just have the tourists see because the events are are there. 446 00:59:31.890 --> 00:59:44.520 Charles Rosin: So I think that it is a good thing that Venice gets real involved with some of this and be heard, but I think it's a i'd be surprised if we would get any support about. 447 00:59:45.930 --> 00:59:53.790 Charles Rosin: We are venues are held, because that's that that was that was pretty much determine when the vote came in, to give it to us address in the first one. 448 00:59:55.290 --> 00:59:59.310 Daffodil Tyminski: All right, that's great information check i'm Darrell you also had your hand up did you want to say something. 449 00:59:59.580 --> 01:00:00.690 Darryl DuFay: Yes, I do. 450 01:00:02.670 --> 01:00:05.430 Darryl DuFay: Again I don't have a lot to say about this. 451 01:00:05.670 --> 01:00:06.990 Darryl DuFay: What I do see it. 452 01:00:07.050 --> 01:00:08.520 Darryl DuFay: Is we're asking. 453 01:00:09.840 --> 01:00:20.250 Darryl DuFay: For information about why Venice was not included so far and activities that's all we need that's all we're asking. 454 01:00:20.250 --> 01:00:35.220 Darryl DuFay: For but where are you get in the resolve there's an area that that is concerned, to me, not a bothers me but a concern appoint a willing and able and individual to chair and review committee. 455 01:00:37.050 --> 01:00:39.810 Darryl DuFay: We I think we're only nine people. 456 01:00:41.490 --> 01:00:53.580 Darryl DuFay: And we're talking about a billion dollar event and I don't under I am not sure about what we are wanting to commit ourselves to. 457 01:00:55.350 --> 01:01:02.370 Darryl DuFay: Right now, and then we should think about that we should find out why we're not included. 458 01:01:03.570 --> 01:01:08.490 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm, just to clarify one thing darryl and and, if I understood what you said. 459 01:01:09.840 --> 01:01:15.000 Daffodil Tyminski: This is not for the neighborhood committee to start like a subcommittee that we would have to staff. 460 01:01:15.510 --> 01:01:31.530 Daffodil Tyminski: This is, this is a motion I put this on the neighborhood committee agenda, so we could discuss it in committee and pass this motion on to the board for the President to create an ad hoc committee and then members of the community would would fill that committee. 461 01:01:31.650 --> 01:01:33.330 Darryl DuFay: Okay, fine Thank you I miss it's. 462 01:01:33.330 --> 01:01:36.540 Daffodil Tyminski: Not a burden we're taking on, I just wanted us to be able to discuss it. 463 01:01:36.870 --> 01:01:37.710 No i'm good. 464 01:01:39.090 --> 01:01:39.990 Darryl DuFay: i'm fine Thank you. 465 01:01:40.140 --> 01:01:40.740 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, great. 466 01:01:40.950 --> 01:01:41.700 Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead Yolanda. 467 01:01:41.940 --> 01:01:43.470 reta moser: Yes, um. 468 01:01:44.730 --> 01:01:53.130 reta moser: It really angers me that we weren't included on because that just goes to show you that they don't want to help, they don't want to help us to clean up. 469 01:01:53.520 --> 01:02:02.010 reta moser: Our mess here in Venice number one i've worked three Olympics Mexico City here in Los Angeles, and in Toronto. 470 01:02:02.580 --> 01:02:10.710 reta moser: And I was part of committees for that, for the Olympics, and I think it depends on who is going to be our next mayor. 471 01:02:11.340 --> 01:02:17.820 reta moser: But we should be involved, I just found out from a friend of mine who works at universal studios and they take. 472 01:02:18.360 --> 01:02:24.660 reta moser: The end she takes stats of how many tourists come through universal studios you know they had 30,000 people. 473 01:02:25.050 --> 01:02:35.370 reta moser: come through universal studios last week on Saturday and Sunday that's a lot of people so, then I asked her, can you imagine those 30,000 people that want to come to Venice. 474 01:02:35.850 --> 01:02:42.690 reta moser: Because they all want to come and see Venice I would had lunch with my husband at in Santa Monica day before yesterday. 475 01:02:42.990 --> 01:02:48.600 reta moser: And I asked him if they were full to capacity, yes, they are all the hotels are just full to I don't know what it is. 476 01:02:49.020 --> 01:03:04.050 reta moser: But all the hotels are just full to capacity at this point, so we are getting the tourism and they still want to come down to Venice, and I think we should investigate i'm gonna i'm going to dig in a little bit more, I have some people that are involved with the Olympics. 477 01:03:05.550 --> 01:03:09.540 reta moser: At this point, they're starting to assign because it takes four years to prepare them. 478 01:03:09.960 --> 01:03:18.120 reta moser: And we've got to be prepared and if we're not included, we can protest i'm serious about this, they don't want to help us clean up Venice. 479 01:03:18.450 --> 01:03:27.630 reta moser: And I said, if we're not if we don't clean up our homeless issue, and what we have going on in the city, we should protest, they they should cancel them, this is a big event. 480 01:03:28.560 --> 01:03:38.940 reta moser: very big I love the Olympics, but I live in Venice and why we were not included it really just i'm just just finding out is. 481 01:03:39.330 --> 01:03:55.620 Charles Rosin: I think that you're missing the point we're not included with the water sports because we're not with clothing and activities throughout i'm a total in agreement with you, this would not be a great venue to have an activity and the third thing is here well as always. 482 01:04:00.090 --> 01:04:01.080 reta moser: we're not hearing you. 483 01:04:01.650 --> 01:04:02.790 Daffodil Tyminski: You dropping out a little bit. 484 01:04:08.040 --> 01:04:08.850 Daffodil Tyminski: Not hearing oh. 485 01:04:10.260 --> 01:04:10.830 Daffodil Tyminski: Sorry. 486 01:04:23.580 --> 01:04:24.000 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah. 487 01:04:31.110 --> 01:04:33.900 Daffodil Tyminski: I don't know what you're doing what you're i'm sorry you're cutting in and out. 488 01:04:34.530 --> 01:04:38.910 Charles Rosin: Oh, my okay well it's a complicated topic clearly. 489 01:04:42.120 --> 01:04:54.030 Charles Rosin: But I think there is a distinction between the three parts to this, we need to have activities, here we need to show off Venice during the Olympics will all sorts of ways, culturally. 490 01:04:54.420 --> 01:05:08.910 Charles Rosin: artistically that's should be our venice's focus plus what you want to say I just happen to have that inside information that the head of the things that not our problem, to help la clean up and streets, I think it is their problem. 491 01:05:10.470 --> 01:05:25.050 Charles Rosin: And I agree with Yolanda 100% on that, but in terms of this second line here, making it somehow that the Olympics are wrong because Venice doesn't have a water, sport is just missing the point and you said this came from rick. 492 01:05:26.520 --> 01:05:27.360 Charles Rosin: Answers yeah. 493 01:05:27.480 --> 01:05:29.340 Charles Rosin: It does and that's Why would be missing the point. 494 01:05:30.270 --> 01:05:30.420 Oh. 495 01:05:35.310 --> 01:05:49.170 Daffodil Tyminski: I see to just big picture issues with us one i'm really I think what Nick is just trying to do here is create a committee to make sure Venice has a voice in the process yeah. 496 01:05:49.380 --> 01:05:50.160 reta moser: he's right yeah. 497 01:05:50.220 --> 01:05:52.680 Daffodil Tyminski: and laying the foundation and and I think he's right on that. 498 01:05:52.920 --> 01:06:05.100 Daffodil Tyminski: With the other thing is, is why it's more than just having a voice, because wherever the Games are selected to take place, whatever activity, there is, or whatever sport. 499 01:06:06.810 --> 01:06:21.990 Daffodil Tyminski: is going to get a lot of infrastructure improvements and a lot of money thrown at it and Venice has already been so underserved in so many ways, so this is just like one other giant pot of money that's out there with the city and county that we're not going to be able to dip into. 500 01:06:22.560 --> 01:06:30.060 Charles Rosin: Just remember in terms of the venues, the reason the event la was chosen is because they didn't have to do that, to the venues. 501 01:06:30.360 --> 01:06:30.870 reta moser: mm hmm. 502 01:06:31.170 --> 01:06:40.290 Charles Rosin: you're gonna have to build things Toronto right a lot that they built a lot they're not going to do that much here that's one of the reasons they were able to get it on the cheap. 503 01:06:40.680 --> 01:06:57.720 reta moser: Yet, but we don't have enough hotels to host the Olympics, this time we lack hotels and where they're going to put them and where are they going to put the the athletes, my understanding is that they're going to put them in the end they're going to house them in the in the UCLA and usc. 504 01:06:58.170 --> 01:07:06.930 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah our newest member has been very patiently raising her hand so let's give felicia chance to speak and then we'll we'll a resume. 505 01:07:07.380 --> 01:07:14.970 feliciasaltzbart: Right hi everyone excited again to be here and just to weigh in on this absolutely do you believe that Venice does have a place. 506 01:07:15.420 --> 01:07:24.240 feliciasaltzbart: For la 28, but I would I would suggest that we understand the parameters for why you know we weren't chosen, because it would be. 507 01:07:24.810 --> 01:07:30.180 feliciasaltzbart: It would be sad to set ourselves up for failure, I do think we should go to the table. 508 01:07:30.600 --> 01:07:39.330 feliciasaltzbart: To you know advocate for Venice being involved, but like Tom was saying earlier, and maybe it's like a cultural spot on the stuff of lists of places to get that. 509 01:07:40.290 --> 01:07:50.550 feliciasaltzbart: That money, and you know infusion to clean up area, but I just wouldn't want us to go ahead and like shout out that we should be included in the water sports or even. 510 01:07:50.580 --> 01:07:53.790 feliciasaltzbart: skateboarding and then he turned down because we're not within the. 511 01:07:53.790 --> 01:08:04.710 feliciasaltzbart: parameters of what's required, whereas if we can get out there and show why we should be showcased as a cultural spot and get money that way, maybe we're better served so just kind of a little more due diligence. 512 01:08:05.070 --> 01:08:14.640 feliciasaltzbart: Before we go out, you know arms blazing and and say we should be part of the actual Olympics events, if that makes sense. 513 01:08:15.960 --> 01:08:21.030 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah totally now remember this motion is just to create a committee to deal with these issues. 514 01:08:21.390 --> 01:08:21.660 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah. 515 01:08:21.690 --> 01:08:29.940 feliciasaltzbart: yeah definitely but committee shouldn't be specifically, we should have an event here, the committee should be how do we involve Venice in the La. 516 01:08:30.780 --> 01:08:43.440 feliciasaltzbart: That would be my suggestion don't make it so narrow in terms of what we're trying to get a little more broad in the sense of how has been it's going to be involved versus what what sport are you doing in Venice. 517 01:08:43.800 --> 01:08:56.040 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so I think how this would go procedurally based on the motion and the part that actually is going to be passed on is the therefore it, be it resolved, I know it's a long run on sentence. 518 01:08:57.330 --> 01:09:00.660 Daffodil Tyminski: But I think what would happen here is. 519 01:09:02.610 --> 01:09:14.940 Daffodil Tyminski: If the President agrees to make a committee which I don't see why he would not agree, then we have to craft the mission statement and the mission statement felicia will is where we'll do that we'll make it broad enough. 520 01:09:16.290 --> 01:09:21.870 Daffodil Tyminski: I actually don't know why neck did not craft a mission statement and instead submitted this this way. 521 01:09:23.640 --> 01:09:36.810 Daffodil Tyminski: But that's that's what would happen, so the the whereas clauses in the top that single out skate and water sports that won't be part of the mission statement once the committee gets created if that makes sense. 522 01:09:39.120 --> 01:09:50.400 Daffodil Tyminski: I think what we're doing now is really opining as a committee, as to whether we think that we should have an ad hoc committee about the Olympics and then we'll figure out what its mission statement is. 523 01:09:51.960 --> 01:09:52.650 Daffodil Tyminski: So i'm. 524 01:09:53.370 --> 01:09:54.480 Charles Rosin: nervous about like. 525 01:09:56.310 --> 01:09:56.790 Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead. 526 01:09:58.200 --> 01:10:06.780 Charles Rosin: Like felicia i'm just a little nervous that will get off the wrong track on it that's what i've been talking about about that that I agree that we should have a committee to the subway. 527 01:10:07.050 --> 01:10:17.190 Charles Rosin: venice's it works and what the committee could be Olympus can do or neighborhood like us ours, at the same time, but to these events were not. 528 01:10:17.910 --> 01:10:25.440 Charles Rosin: First of all, I, we have no idea how the skateboard people in long beach lobby the Olympics to say we get it here. 529 01:10:25.830 --> 01:10:35.640 Charles Rosin: I know if that same period of time when this was going on our councilman was doing nothing for our Community, so why they even think that we would have been part of a conversation. 530 01:10:36.180 --> 01:10:45.480 Charles Rosin: Five years ago, is it you know it didn't because nobody was advocating perhaps maybe that's why but I don't know that to be the truth, but I do know. 531 01:10:46.320 --> 01:10:57.690 Charles Rosin: that once you was set this is where they were going to be there's real changes So what can we change, we can have Venice, be much more important, and we can basically start to say to the Olympics. 532 01:10:58.440 --> 01:11:08.400 Charles Rosin: guys, are making a lot of money, what are you doing for the city because they're not doing very much for us and I, and I will get more information about that because that's what is the value. 533 01:11:08.850 --> 01:11:17.760 Charles Rosin: To our advocacy is is you know, in terms of excluding Venice they don't think they had any responsibility to help anyone do that. 534 01:11:18.540 --> 01:11:27.090 Charles Rosin: But as far as like you know just like, for instance, you say Oh, they have to let the athletes you're going to be at UCLA and usc well that's where they were in 1984. 535 01:11:27.720 --> 01:11:39.810 Charles Rosin: So that's not new, I mean, in other words, they went back to a very successful plan that Peter guber off and and and Mr usher put together and that's the basis of what they got how they got. 536 01:11:40.950 --> 01:11:41.460 Daffodil Tyminski: well. 537 01:11:41.850 --> 01:11:43.050 Charles Rosin: It takes a lot of credit. 538 01:11:43.050 --> 01:11:47.490 Charles Rosin: For it, but it was really hashed out 1984 right. 539 01:11:48.000 --> 01:11:58.080 Daffodil Tyminski: Well, does it make sense, then, I mean I think we're all in agreement that the spirit of the committee is something we'd like we're just concerned about what the mission statement would be does it make sense for. 540 01:11:58.680 --> 01:12:01.620 Charles Rosin: What that's what my feeling is that's my concern. 541 01:12:01.620 --> 01:12:09.510 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah no that's what I hear, and I think felicia saying the same thing um do you chalk and felicia do you want to work together. 542 01:12:10.950 --> 01:12:14.430 Daffodil Tyminski: and create a mission statement and we'll consider it next month. 543 01:12:16.050 --> 01:12:23.670 Daffodil Tyminski: I mean I don't think this is extremely time sensitive we haven't you know I know no one's done immediately, but um. 544 01:12:24.690 --> 01:12:27.120 Charles Rosin: Well i'll help assist felicia. 545 01:12:28.380 --> 01:12:30.450 Daffodil Tyminski: felicia I don't mean to your first meeting. 546 01:12:30.480 --> 01:12:34.800 Daffodil Tyminski: I owe you I don't mean to dive a lot I just you have a strong vision on it, and I think you're right. 547 01:12:34.920 --> 01:12:37.680 feliciasaltzbart: i'm happy to work, work with chuck. 548 01:12:39.150 --> 01:12:39.630 Charles Rosin: Very good. 549 01:12:40.710 --> 01:12:49.170 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so why don't We then push this one off till next month to I suppose what's expected a longer meeting, but I think some of these things will get through quickly. 550 01:12:49.440 --> 01:12:51.450 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah um and. 551 01:12:52.320 --> 01:12:53.820 reta moser: At least we're talking about it. 552 01:12:54.060 --> 01:13:02.790 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah yeah and then what we can do is presented to the board with a mission statement that we're all comfortable with right and committee yeah and take it from there. 553 01:13:03.000 --> 01:13:08.130 Charles Rosin: And what and Yolanda since you've had so much experience with the Olympics, you want to jump in this with us as well. 554 01:13:08.850 --> 01:13:09.780 reta moser: yeah i'll help you. 555 01:13:10.200 --> 01:13:10.650 Charles Rosin: Thank you. 556 01:13:11.130 --> 01:13:16.560 reta moser: I already suggested that we should get our general involved because that's why he came out to Los Angeles. 557 01:13:17.400 --> 01:13:17.850 Daffodil Tyminski: Right. 558 01:13:18.720 --> 01:13:25.290 reta moser: he's he should get him on board, because he he he cleaned up and he got the boardwalk. 559 01:13:25.770 --> 01:13:39.420 reta moser: Going and and gold's gym going here everything, so I don't know why you know, then this is still the second most visited place here in Los Angeles, and I don't know why they're not including us because they don't want to help us clean up here. 560 01:13:41.580 --> 01:13:44.340 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, all right great so let's do that and. 561 01:13:45.990 --> 01:13:48.270 Daffodil Tyminski: move this to our April meeting. 562 01:13:50.610 --> 01:13:52.890 reta moser: Are we going to send this back to the President, though. 563 01:13:53.730 --> 01:14:07.140 Daffodil Tyminski: Now well here's the thing I think we thought about it and we actually have a lot of experience on this committee with the Olympics, which I think is rare among the various neighborhood Council committees so. 564 01:14:07.800 --> 01:14:13.380 Daffodil Tyminski: We could send it to the President, now, but then I think we would lose control over the mission statement. 565 01:14:13.740 --> 01:14:14.430 reta moser: Oh yeah. 566 01:14:14.580 --> 01:14:15.480 Daffodil Tyminski: I think if we have a. 567 01:14:15.690 --> 01:14:28.350 Daffodil Tyminski: clear vision which it sounds like we do it it'd be better for everybody, you know because we're going to be a little more thoughtful about it, I think, then, it just going to the President and someone slapping something together quickly to get it on the calendar. 568 01:14:28.620 --> 01:14:30.150 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah Oh, my feeling. 569 01:14:32.010 --> 01:14:34.320 Daffodil Tyminski: So let's continue this till next month. 570 01:14:36.240 --> 01:14:47.640 Daffodil Tyminski: And just about let's touch base about a week before the meeting, so we can make sure we get it on the agenda good, and you know do any last minute things we need to do or involve whoever else needs to get involved. 571 01:14:49.560 --> 01:14:54.840 Daffodil Tyminski: awesome cool um and felicia hopefully by then we will have met in person and have coffee. 572 01:14:58.080 --> 01:15:00.930 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so let's move on to we have two more items um. 573 01:15:03.300 --> 01:15:05.940 Daffodil Tyminski: installing signage in Venice and then. 574 01:15:07.410 --> 01:15:20.640 Daffodil Tyminski: there's also the issue about the neighbor Committee and the bylaws which I i'll get to that one we talked about it, we don't even have to deal with that if nobody wants to but let's start with signage because that's next and Yolanda had brought this. 575 01:15:20.850 --> 01:15:22.560 Daffodil Tyminski: Up to my attention. 576 01:15:25.920 --> 01:15:27.030 reta moser: You got cut off. 577 01:15:27.300 --> 01:15:29.190 Charles Rosin: got frozen Jeff. 578 01:15:35.880 --> 01:15:36.840 Charles Rosin: back to your other one. 579 01:15:37.320 --> 01:15:38.100 can't hear. 580 01:15:41.730 --> 01:15:43.320 reta moser: You got cut off daffodil. 581 01:15:47.940 --> 01:15:50.070 Daffodil Tyminski: hey Rita Yolanda can you hear me. 582 01:15:50.190 --> 01:15:52.770 reta moser: Now we can yeah now we can. 583 01:15:52.830 --> 01:15:55.590 Daffodil Tyminski: Oh it's my fault i'm sorry hold on, let me turn my video off. 584 01:15:57.390 --> 01:16:03.990 Jeremy Loeb: After this, this was the signage that we were going to make with that we had that sort of discretionary funds that we were gonna we were going to get as a neighborhood. 585 01:16:04.590 --> 01:16:11.910 Daffodil Tyminski: Right, so there are there is some funding leftover that we have a very narrow window to hopefully take advantage of and. 586 01:16:13.980 --> 01:16:14.790 Daffodil Tyminski: For. 587 01:16:15.840 --> 01:16:17.850 Daffodil Tyminski: Years people have been talking about this. 588 01:16:19.380 --> 01:16:34.890 Daffodil Tyminski: And I think it's a great idea i'll say that for me and I live in an area where the only access to our houses is on a street that has no street sign, and it is impossible to ever get anyone to our houses, because there's no signs. 589 01:16:35.910 --> 01:16:47.460 Daffodil Tyminski: But on a greater level Yolanda had pointed out that we also have lots of tourists that are constantly getting lost in Venice particularly around Venice and Abbot kinney are people trying to figure out where the beaches. 590 01:16:48.840 --> 01:16:51.990 Daffodil Tyminski: And so, she had had the idea that maybe we should. 591 01:16:53.220 --> 01:16:57.840 Daffodil Tyminski: ask for some discretionary funding to put up some sign so Yolanda do you want to take it from here, and just. 592 01:16:58.140 --> 01:16:59.070 Daffodil Tyminski: Get on. 593 01:16:59.250 --> 01:17:08.520 reta moser: Well, I live on the corner of Abbot kinney in Venice and when we're my husband and I are out there, I see people get lost, and you know they're trying to find and. 594 01:17:08.880 --> 01:17:09.030 reta moser: They. 595 01:17:09.180 --> 01:17:13.410 reta moser: come up to us, and ask us how far is the beach well we tell them it's two and a half blocks. 596 01:17:13.830 --> 01:17:24.870 reta moser: They have no idea or where is the where are the restaurants, they have no idea, even though you can have your your your phone and it indicates everything but there's no signs. 597 01:17:25.110 --> 01:17:31.890 reta moser: How to get to the restaurants, how to get to the beach and they're walking down I don't know how they get here, but I think they must take. 598 01:17:32.190 --> 01:17:46.170 reta moser: The public transportation, the buses they get off on Lincoln and they walk down all the way to the beach and that people get lost now another thing too that i'm seeing is that there should be. 599 01:17:47.820 --> 01:18:02.430 reta moser: A uber and lyft taxi cues so people can that they can pick them up, because sometimes, then they want to get on Abbot kinney immediately and they stop all the traffic, so we should also have. 600 01:18:02.940 --> 01:18:13.980 reta moser: A way of indicating where people can be picked up by uber by a taxi or you know for transportation, and so we really need to work on that. 601 01:18:15.210 --> 01:18:18.630 reta moser: For our visitors here in Venice if we're really going to be. 602 01:18:19.770 --> 01:18:25.590 reta moser: hospitable to the people who want to come and visit us and i've been requested this for a long time. 603 01:18:26.610 --> 01:18:37.980 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay um well so let's leave the uber pickup designations for later, and I think we'll probably work with parking and transportation on that, but let me read the motion, and then we can take some comment. 604 01:18:41.040 --> 01:18:53.460 Daffodil Tyminski: The motion is, whereas there exists different pools of funding for Community improvements and whereas there are insufficient signs in Venice and forming visitors of where key sites are in Venice, such as the beach the vendor side, etc. 605 01:18:53.820 --> 01:19:04.350 Daffodil Tyminski: Therefore, be it resolved within Venice that the neighborhood committee shall request funds from the dnc treasurer for funds from the Community impact program or other similar programs to improve signage development. 606 01:19:06.570 --> 01:19:14.820 Daffodil Tyminski: Now there's there's two typos in there i'm noticing one site should be plural and I think it's Community improvement program not impact, but do I have a second on the motion. 607 01:19:15.120 --> 01:19:16.920 reta moser: I slept good okay. 608 01:19:20.160 --> 01:19:22.380 Daffodil Tyminski: So let's take some public comment here. 609 01:19:23.970 --> 01:19:26.160 Daffodil Tyminski: Helen do you want to go ahead um. 610 01:19:26.310 --> 01:19:37.440 Helen Fallon: yeah you corrected a Community improvement program, that is the only funding I don't think there's anything, and I think you want to it's if you want this money you're not you're requesting funds by filing a computer. 611 01:19:38.610 --> 01:19:54.330 Helen Fallon: An application or Community improvement, so you may want to tweak this a little bit so it's a you know, a better word thing, and this is time sensitive because it's the money's there, but the it's in this year's budget will disappear son. 612 01:19:54.540 --> 01:20:09.240 Helen Fallon: yeah for somebody else will be reaching I I thought I like this idea and I don't know whether you're talking just tourists signage or historic signs, you know that label areas that say you know. 613 01:20:09.960 --> 01:20:16.080 Helen Fallon: Where there's you know some information about something and and you just mentioned that there are signs missing. 614 01:20:16.650 --> 01:20:31.830 Helen Fallon: That are just missing in places to for in perhaps more than one neighbor had it on a street sign that's missing, and so this would be a good way to fix this stuff in the Community, and you guys could either point people that. 615 01:20:33.090 --> 01:20:41.400 Helen Fallon: You know, supervised this, you are going to have to come up with some kind of idea of what this is going to cost if you're going to apply for you know a lot of Community improvement. 616 01:20:41.700 --> 01:20:47.520 reta moser: Well, that comes from the subject that is the one that's in charge of putting up the signs that we just have to get a budget on it. 617 01:20:48.510 --> 01:20:56.850 Helen Fallon: yeah you need to reach out and then, when you apply for the Community Improvement Plan you're going to need to have some idea of what this is going to cost. 618 01:20:57.270 --> 01:21:08.280 Helen Fallon: I i've talked to somebody over and mar vista and they did those signs that you know are bolted onto those Poles that you know or have a little holes in them yeah like neighborhood watch science. 619 01:21:08.460 --> 01:21:11.130 Helen Fallon: knows ran about $50 a sign so. 620 01:21:12.540 --> 01:21:18.180 Helen Fallon: You might want to confirm that, so you know you probably could figure out how many signs, you need and how much money you want. 621 01:21:19.470 --> 01:21:25.050 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah we um we've bought them before Helen to um in fact. 622 01:21:26.250 --> 01:21:38.400 Daffodil Tyminski: We did buy them for our street, this is just totally apropos of nothing but Jeremy and I actually bought street signs for our alley and then I think Google change the name of our alley in Google maps. 623 01:21:39.480 --> 01:21:40.560 Daffodil Tyminski: So, then, we had. 624 01:21:41.880 --> 01:21:47.790 Daffodil Tyminski: a sign that didn't match what Google changed it to and who knows what the name of the street actually is, but. 625 01:21:47.910 --> 01:21:53.760 Jeremy Loeb: Worse we're still we're still advocating on Google maps it's the funniest thing I think it's a mistake, but I don't know. 626 01:21:54.090 --> 01:22:05.070 Daffodil Tyminski: But it used to be yeah I forget what it used to be, but anyway um yeah so the deadline is the 31st so if we approve this in spirit. 627 01:22:05.670 --> 01:22:17.340 Daffodil Tyminski: I can actually do the math and the budget and all that stuff because we know roughly what the signs will cost the difficulty, I had with this after Yolanda mentioned it, and I did some work trying to figure it out. 628 01:22:18.420 --> 01:22:29.760 Daffodil Tyminski: it's really unclear, the city is whether they'll just let you put up signs that are not there, approved sign people signs and, of course, all of the city approved signs are like 10 times more expensive than we could just buy online. 629 01:22:31.260 --> 01:22:39.300 Daffodil Tyminski: So I can put together a budget proposal, and I can do i've done these Community improvement applications before but. 630 01:22:40.890 --> 01:22:48.780 Daffodil Tyminski: i've never done something where there's so much city regulation involved, so we might have to just put it in there and get the funding and then see what the city will let us do with it. 631 01:22:49.920 --> 01:22:51.540 Helen Fallon: You could encumber the funding. 632 01:22:51.900 --> 01:22:52.800 Helen Fallon: yeah I mean. 633 01:22:52.860 --> 01:22:58.170 Helen Fallon: So it could it doesn't have to happen this before the end of the fiscal year your. 634 01:22:58.260 --> 01:23:03.300 Helen Fallon: money needs to be allocated yeah so I mean it could be something that's further down the line it. 635 01:23:03.600 --> 01:23:06.540 Helen Fallon: gets done in over the summer or in the fall. 636 01:23:06.690 --> 01:23:09.870 Daffodil Tyminski: Yes to do right yeah so you wanna. 637 01:23:10.260 --> 01:23:28.680 reta moser: I just want don't want to bring up a sore subject, but I plot Ted Lou had some Community improvements funding and I don't know if we ever did apply that he said that he could allocate to the genesis Has anybody done any thing with the applying for the money that he he promised us. 638 01:23:29.430 --> 01:23:32.970 Daffodil Tyminski: I believe there are some applications before his office. 639 01:23:35.160 --> 01:23:47.640 Daffodil Tyminski: off the top of my head at the moment I can't remember what it was for or who was applying for what but there I Janet Turner mentioned that there definitely are some funds going to Venice and some applications. 640 01:23:48.180 --> 01:23:49.470 Daffodil Tyminski: I can double check with her. 641 01:23:49.650 --> 01:23:50.160 Daffodil Tyminski: On this. 642 01:23:50.730 --> 01:23:51.600 Daffodil Tyminski: Oh i'm. 643 01:23:51.720 --> 01:23:55.350 Daffodil Tyminski: Just check the reason the reason for this, the urgency was. 644 01:23:55.680 --> 01:23:59.640 Daffodil Tyminski: that the funding expired, and this is actually why I went to have our meeting this week and not next week. 645 01:23:59.820 --> 01:24:00.030 reta moser: Oh. 646 01:24:00.060 --> 01:24:07.800 Daffodil Tyminski: Is it the applicator the funding expires march 31 so Helens absolutely right, we need to just apply to uncover the funding. 647 01:24:08.220 --> 01:24:09.810 Daffodil Tyminski: will come up with a reasonable budget. 648 01:24:09.840 --> 01:24:15.540 Daffodil Tyminski: that we can get you know as much as we can, and then work with the city to see how they will let us spend it. 649 01:24:16.080 --> 01:24:16.560 Okay. 650 01:24:19.080 --> 01:24:21.000 reta moser: what's the Max that we can apply for. 651 01:24:21.960 --> 01:24:23.940 Daffodil Tyminski: I think it's $3,000. 652 01:24:23.970 --> 01:24:24.180 reta moser: let's. 653 01:24:24.240 --> 01:24:36.000 Helen Fallon: Go ahead out daffodil that's not it's it's you can you can apply for the entire amount of money that's available for both the NP g's and the Community improvement grants which I think is somewhere around 12 in the budget. 654 01:24:36.300 --> 01:24:37.410 reta moser: Well let's go ahead and do it. 655 01:24:38.370 --> 01:24:42.480 Helen Fallon: I mean, so if you want to really go whole hog and you've got the plan go for it. 656 01:24:42.720 --> 01:24:43.140 Helen Fallon: yeah. 657 01:24:43.530 --> 01:24:53.850 Helen Fallon: You have to get extra permission from the city if you're if you're if they're allocating more than 5000 but that's not a big deal if you've got a whole you know focus plan. 658 01:24:55.290 --> 01:24:55.770 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay. 659 01:24:56.070 --> 01:25:01.140 Daffodil Tyminski: that's not we had a convention in the neighborhood Council that we wouldn't give anybody more than 3000 at a time. 660 01:25:01.590 --> 01:25:04.560 Daffodil Tyminski: But maybe that was just a wasn't thing. 661 01:25:04.980 --> 01:25:06.390 Helen Fallon: I might have been something silly. 662 01:25:06.390 --> 01:25:16.410 Helen Fallon: arbitrarily decided that the cutoff is five and then after that you have to get have to go to the city clerk and you know the funding people and make sure it's approved. 663 01:25:16.860 --> 01:25:19.530 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay i'm chuck go ahead, I see you have your hand raised. 664 01:25:20.610 --> 01:25:24.720 Charles Rosin: yeah I have two questions one was about the money and that got that got clarify for me. 665 01:25:25.530 --> 01:25:26.250 Daffodil Tyminski: The other one. 666 01:25:26.340 --> 01:25:32.940 Charles Rosin: I first moved here, and this is what my my thought was when we first moved to the silver triangle, there was an artist. 667 01:25:33.420 --> 01:25:42.120 Charles Rosin: That put up all this really cool stuff in it, and one of them was assigned point at beach this way and it just made me think that. 668 01:25:43.020 --> 01:25:53.190 Charles Rosin: You know, we talked about people want to come to Venice and they want to get the despite all the negative publicity that we get out of you know all the time here. 669 01:25:53.730 --> 01:26:04.410 Charles Rosin: At the same time, people want to have you know that that experience the artistic so maybe if we get signs see how happy that helpful, the city is, but if they're. 670 01:26:05.340 --> 01:26:15.360 Charles Rosin: helpful or supportive in theory and maybe we can get the artist Community year to start developing the different kinds of signs and different colors and do the kind of stuff. 671 01:26:15.930 --> 01:26:24.810 Charles Rosin: I mean we yeah we don't have hotel rooms and Venice for the tourists, but we can least make them who come here, thinking about things besides oh there's. 672 01:26:26.280 --> 01:26:27.060 Charles Rosin: A clean that up. 673 01:26:28.620 --> 01:26:30.090 reta moser: that's a sign, we should add me. 674 01:26:31.170 --> 01:26:32.280 Charles Rosin: i'll make that sign. 675 01:26:37.080 --> 01:26:38.460 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay that's a great idea. 676 01:26:41.580 --> 01:26:46.830 Charles Rosin: And by the way, if the city isn't going to help us then let's daffodil let's turn to our friends in the Chamber. 677 01:26:47.340 --> 01:26:49.050 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah this is exactly. 678 01:26:49.410 --> 01:27:03.570 Charles Rosin: What george's I mean you were excited about his name, because he is not here to talk about it, but at the same time he's always saying why go through the city, when you can go to the business community, so I do think we want to think about that as well, and some of it. 679 01:27:03.630 --> 01:27:04.710 reta moser: But good thought. 680 01:27:05.040 --> 01:27:06.240 reta moser: yeah good. 681 01:27:06.600 --> 01:27:07.980 Daffodil Tyminski: Talk to George um. 682 01:27:09.030 --> 01:27:25.530 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah I mean there's two things going on here one is just basic signage like beach this way or even street signs but i'm going to put this on another agenda because we had a lot of stuff on here, but I was thinking that we really need to increase signs is certainly part of it. 683 01:27:26.820 --> 01:27:32.370 Daffodil Tyminski: But you know, increase the ability for people to come and really appreciate menace. 684 01:27:32.970 --> 01:27:39.960 Daffodil Tyminski: You know people don't understand where they are, or sometimes the significance of a location there and in Venice because, like nothing is marked. 685 01:27:41.490 --> 01:27:50.460 Daffodil Tyminski: or maintained, and so you know, certainly signs that are for the beach or for cultural things or something like that I don't think the city is going to care what we do. 686 01:27:51.090 --> 01:27:57.690 Daffodil Tyminski: I think when it comes to signs that are like a street name or something there's probably lots of regulations on you know what the signs should look like. 687 01:27:59.190 --> 01:28:02.640 Daffodil Tyminski: But OK, so I think we need to tweak, then the. 688 01:28:04.590 --> 01:28:09.390 Daffodil Tyminski: The last paragraph you're, to say the neighborhood committee request funds. 689 01:28:12.360 --> 01:28:13.140 Daffodil Tyminski: From. 690 01:28:14.340 --> 01:28:15.870 Daffodil Tyminski: The Community improvement. 691 01:28:17.220 --> 01:28:18.240 Daffodil Tyminski: program right. 692 01:28:18.870 --> 01:28:19.320 yeah. 693 01:28:23.340 --> 01:28:28.560 reta moser: And let's go ahead and put it through, even before the neighborhood Council meeting next month. 694 01:28:30.060 --> 01:28:33.270 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah that's why I am i'm just doing this and will um. 695 01:28:33.420 --> 01:28:34.980 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah i'll put the request in. 696 01:28:35.730 --> 01:28:36.000 Put it. 697 01:28:37.470 --> 01:28:37.650 Helen Fallon: out. 698 01:28:39.240 --> 01:28:51.450 Helen Fallon: To the Finance Committee, you know the got you're gonna have to get their approval your emotions should be that you're submitting a any impact of Community improvement. 699 01:28:53.370 --> 01:28:55.590 Helen Fallon: An application for Community improvement grant. 700 01:28:57.360 --> 01:28:57.720 Daffodil Tyminski: Right. 701 01:28:58.020 --> 01:29:10.650 Helen Fallon: You gotta send it through finance so they can get there, you know so they'll say yes there's money available for, and there is because they haven't spent any of the entity in anything they budgeted for either NP GL or community, and so they can they can move that money. 702 01:29:12.270 --> 01:29:13.770 Helen Fallon: you're not limited to what they budgeted. 703 01:29:14.400 --> 01:29:17.460 Daffodil Tyminski: Right so we'll have a motion for. 704 01:29:19.080 --> 01:29:22.290 Daffodil Tyminski: An application to be filed with the Budget Committee. 705 01:29:23.640 --> 01:29:26.850 Daffodil Tyminski: For Community impact program funds for signs. 706 01:29:32.520 --> 01:29:38.520 Daffodil Tyminski: And we may end up having one more neighborhood Council meeting next week for the bylaws. 707 01:29:40.080 --> 01:29:45.510 Daffodil Tyminski: And so, if we do, we can throw this on there, so we definitely make it in time and it's got. 708 01:29:46.980 --> 01:29:49.740 Daffodil Tyminski: Support but we'll see logistically how that works out. 709 01:29:50.970 --> 01:29:53.730 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so I made the motion you'll want a second and does anyone. 710 01:29:53.850 --> 01:29:54.000 Like. 711 01:29:55.980 --> 01:29:58.320 Daffodil Tyminski: Does anyone that raise your hand if you have an objection. 712 01:30:00.540 --> 01:30:02.400 Daffodil Tyminski: To make this easy anyone. 713 01:30:04.560 --> 01:30:09.570 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, seeing no hands motion carries I will tweak the language and pass it along. 714 01:30:18.900 --> 01:30:26.580 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so the last item on here is about our mission statement of the neighborhood committee. 715 01:30:28.770 --> 01:30:38.250 Daffodil Tyminski: This was a few people reached out and asked if we wanted to change our mission statement and there's a couple of issues that came up. 716 01:30:40.410 --> 01:30:43.020 Daffodil Tyminski: Regarding the mission statement which i'll point out to you what they are. 717 01:30:45.060 --> 01:30:53.820 Daffodil Tyminski: One there the the neighborhood committee is traditionally been divided into neighborhoods that were the neighborhoods in this specific plan. 718 01:30:54.630 --> 01:31:10.080 Daffodil Tyminski: But the way those neighborhoods are divided don't reflect at least people have told me they feel don't reflect the reality of what the neighborhoods are so oakwood, for instance, is a giant neighborhood but the different places in oakland are really quite different in character. 719 01:31:11.160 --> 01:31:13.170 Daffodil Tyminski: there's not a separate no real person. 720 01:31:15.570 --> 01:31:23.490 Daffodil Tyminski: and also the fact that we've been working on zoom and online, as it was explained to me, the reason why the neighborhood Committee was broken down this way. 721 01:31:23.910 --> 01:31:39.090 Daffodil Tyminski: Was they expect people to go out in their immediate neighborhoods and like walk the streets and meet the neighbors and do outreach and things like that, but, of course, you know this was conceived years ago now, pretty much we're doing this online on next door things like that. 722 01:31:40.140 --> 01:31:49.650 Daffodil Tyminski: So one, the question is that was raised to me is, do we really want to have it broken down into these what seemed like fairly artificial neighborhoods. 723 01:31:51.210 --> 01:31:53.910 Daffodil Tyminski: To do we. 724 01:31:56.670 --> 01:31:59.310 Daffodil Tyminski: want to have any involvement with outreach. 725 01:32:00.930 --> 01:32:10.830 Daffodil Tyminski: There is a line in here that says, we shall promote greater awareness of available city resources and act as a conduit assisting in Community outreach. 726 01:32:13.500 --> 01:32:21.630 Daffodil Tyminski: It was suggested to me that we should be more of an outreach committee and I was like we have an outreach chair, we have an outreach committee and we have a communications officer i'm not sure. 727 01:32:22.200 --> 01:32:29.520 Daffodil Tyminski: Other than what's organic and the neighborhoods that we be devoted to outreach but again i've never I never even thought about it. 728 01:32:30.990 --> 01:32:42.120 Daffodil Tyminski: So I wanted us to just have a discussion about what we want to be, and then the last thing is um you know what happens when we really don't fill all the seats. 729 01:32:43.110 --> 01:32:53.790 Daffodil Tyminski: My personal view on this is some neighborhoods were hard to fill from i've had a lot of people keep telling me i'll send you the application and i'll send you the application and I follow up and then I never get it. 730 01:32:54.780 --> 01:32:59.220 Daffodil Tyminski: But then there are other people that were other areas are kind of underrepresented so. 731 01:32:59.790 --> 01:33:04.350 Daffodil Tyminski: There is some discretion to be able to add people to the committee and I went through this with the city attorney. 732 01:33:04.740 --> 01:33:19.230 Daffodil Tyminski: And so, for example on our committee, we have William would who's these Venice and Sergio who wanted to represent the businesses along Lincoln then he's a nice bonus and to me that made perfect sense let's add both of those people who might have an interest. 733 01:33:20.580 --> 01:33:24.300 Daffodil Tyminski: The question is, do we want to do it that way, so. 734 01:33:26.730 --> 01:33:30.750 Daffodil Tyminski: I think, in this particular case, I don't have an exact motion well. 735 01:33:32.040 --> 01:33:39.390 Daffodil Tyminski: I was actually fine with the language of this but i'd like to just maybe let's take some public comments if Helen wants to weigh in. 736 01:33:40.050 --> 01:33:48.300 Daffodil Tyminski: And then see what the board, you know see what the committee wants to talk about or what issues, you see, and then we'll see what the emotion is that maybe should be made if any at all. 737 01:33:49.770 --> 01:33:51.090 Daffodil Tyminski: So Helen why don't you go ahead. 738 01:33:51.780 --> 01:34:04.530 Helen Fallon: Oh, thank you um it's an issue that I am brother Adam a brother a passionate about the specific plan is based on zoning so as a result. 739 01:34:04.560 --> 01:34:05.100 Helen Fallon: it's not. 740 01:34:05.490 --> 01:34:06.600 Helen Fallon: liking, the census is. 741 01:34:06.600 --> 01:34:17.100 Helen Fallon: Not reflecting the size of neighborhoods on there's actually what I could see a lot more representation in the area that's like the peninsula silver strand. 742 01:34:17.520 --> 01:34:27.000 Helen Fallon: If you're allocating these neighborhoods this way and I think that should be fixed, but I do think that, historically, this committee was created, because we do not have. 743 01:34:28.290 --> 01:34:38.790 Helen Fallon: represent representatives elected to the board from every neighborhood which most count and sees do that, we have all these out large positions. 744 01:34:39.300 --> 01:34:43.620 Helen Fallon: And I personally think that the whole thing should be fixed so that we have. 745 01:34:44.040 --> 01:34:57.000 Helen Fallon: Officially, elected representatives, based on the census tracts and based on the traditional neighborhoods so you actually have people participating at the board level representing their neighbors this at large thing. 746 01:34:57.450 --> 01:35:03.960 Helen Fallon: is just and reducing it to we all get to vote for one at large, out of 13 has created. 747 01:35:05.010 --> 01:35:11.100 Helen Fallon: A situation where special interest groups are on that board with no connection to neighborhoods. 748 01:35:11.640 --> 01:35:20.370 Helen Fallon: know, two years ago, there was nobody up for me even even for me to Venice, and I think that had gone on for quite a while, on the on the board itself so. 749 01:35:20.850 --> 01:35:26.820 Helen Fallon: I personally think that the neighborhood committee should eventually morph and it's too late to do it this time but. 750 01:35:27.240 --> 01:35:34.710 Helen Fallon: To be we have neighborhood representatives, and I hope that the neighborhood committee will start advocating for that, because I think we've shortchanged people in Venice. 751 01:35:35.220 --> 01:35:42.930 Helen Fallon: We don't know who to call when we have a problem in our neighborhood and we do need people representing the neighborhood so that they're heard from so that. 752 01:35:43.530 --> 01:35:50.640 Helen Fallon: you hear what the problems are we're not all just you know talking to our immediate neighbors with no idea where to go. 753 01:35:51.270 --> 01:35:59.970 Helen Fallon: So I I i'm not sure about the mission statement so much and I don't think you need to be involved in outreach we have a Community out, we have an outreach officer. 754 01:36:00.540 --> 01:36:05.580 Helen Fallon: that's they should be focused on that they don't need to turn you guys into the party committee. 755 01:36:06.060 --> 01:36:12.780 Helen Fallon: And event Committee, you should be you know we need people saying hey, this is a problem you know, like the bridges and. 756 01:36:13.140 --> 01:36:30.360 Helen Fallon: And the canals or signage that's missing or side what's that's broken, we need that stuff going to the neighborhood Council and for people to because that's the job of the nc to communicate to the city what the people in this area need so anyway that's my speech. 757 01:36:31.140 --> 01:36:35.850 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Helen let me jump in with one quick thing before everyone talks and. 758 01:36:37.380 --> 01:36:41.610 Daffodil Tyminski: It was, it was suggested to me that we disband the neighborhood committee and. 759 01:36:41.910 --> 01:36:48.360 Daffodil Tyminski: Helens point I actually think it's a great committee to have I like the kind of stuff we're doing and I think. 760 01:36:49.050 --> 01:37:01.440 Daffodil Tyminski: You know everyone is really invested in involved, and so I would I personally said I wouldn't want to do that, but you know, I guess, but I don't think we can do anything about the hold on I see Yolanda i'll just once that. 761 01:37:01.950 --> 01:37:10.800 Daffodil Tyminski: I am I don't think we can do anything about the actual structure of the neighborhood Council and the voting and all that stuff like from us, but. 762 01:37:12.240 --> 01:37:19.290 Daffodil Tyminski: We can certainly probably fix how the neighborhoods where we draw from as a committee. 763 01:37:19.770 --> 01:37:32.610 Daffodil Tyminski: And I agree with Helen one of my big struggles is actually getting people on the Marina Peninsula to want to invest in this committee, nobody wants to do the time, and so we don't have those spaces, I know, except felicia sorry not nobody I that was terrible. 764 01:37:34.500 --> 01:37:46.680 Daffodil Tyminski: But uh that is over represented neighborhood considering people's seeming interested involvement, but anyway let's go ahead and you'll want to be patient for two seconds i'm just going to go down the list of everyone appearing on my screen and i'm going to start. 765 01:37:46.890 --> 01:37:48.090 Daffodil Tyminski: Talking and just go down. 766 01:37:48.270 --> 01:37:49.950 reta moser: No problem, no problem. 767 01:37:49.980 --> 01:37:50.700 Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead jack. 768 01:37:50.940 --> 01:37:52.980 Charles Rosin: Well, I just want to say. 769 01:37:54.360 --> 01:38:03.120 Charles Rosin: Working in reverse order that it would be a really I think the person who says what do you have a neighbor committee for has never participated. 770 01:38:04.410 --> 01:38:10.290 Charles Rosin: you're I think you're doing a terrific job daffodil I was in at one where one other time with the George. 771 01:38:10.680 --> 01:38:21.210 Charles Rosin: Not, most recently, but the time before and and who were very interesting people there are many interesting people saw what we had in common, what what with different things, and I feel the same thing about. 772 01:38:21.600 --> 01:38:28.440 Charles Rosin: This board as the name of a committee, especially as being run with dealing with issues so it's a way to streamline. 773 01:38:28.770 --> 01:38:46.230 Charles Rosin: And I think that the more I know that in my own experience here in the silver triangle we've got our streets paved because I knew the go to in the in the committee, who would mean on the dnc board from the triangle and without that we would have just been circling around so. 774 01:38:47.250 --> 01:38:53.190 Charles Rosin: And we were able to get get a job done so I i'm in total. 775 01:38:54.330 --> 01:39:04.830 Charles Rosin: Support of you know let's get more neighborhoods let's break down oakwood let's do this, the more is better it just has more different points of view and and and and. 776 01:39:06.180 --> 01:39:16.380 Charles Rosin: And I think that's my so I agree with Helen in in in that way that we not, we are not the outreach committee at all, and it was not. 777 01:39:17.430 --> 01:39:20.580 Charles Rosin: And I think that whoever said again, who asked to. 778 01:39:21.840 --> 01:39:30.570 Charles Rosin: Get rid of the V get rid of the neighborhood committee doesn't understand the value, I mean I know it puts a lot of work for you daffodil but I don't think they understand the value of it. 779 01:39:32.340 --> 01:39:40.500 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah well I don't mind the war, I think it's great I love the committee I think it's great, and I think we actually can do some practical things that have impact. 780 01:39:41.880 --> 01:39:42.600 Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead darryl. 781 01:39:44.100 --> 01:39:47.610 Darryl DuFay: i've been on this issue for 25 years now. 782 01:39:49.200 --> 01:39:54.570 Darryl DuFay: And I tried to bring this to committee and I got shot down. 783 01:39:55.590 --> 01:39:56.610 Darryl DuFay: First of all. 784 01:39:58.020 --> 01:40:09.480 Darryl DuFay: This committee comes out of the coastal lack this committee says existing neighborhoods, this is an environmental. 785 01:40:10.170 --> 01:40:26.550 Darryl DuFay: breakdown that's why four of the existing neighborhoods that were there were south of Washington boulevard two of the neighborhoods are listed as by owner lagoon, which is a strip of land each side of the water. 786 01:40:27.840 --> 01:40:46.980 Darryl DuFay: The problem problem is, we have never gone back and actually looked at neighborhoods not environment and if you're going to look at it, I think I know that we remember Marta era and other people we work minus on breaking down using. 787 01:40:48.630 --> 01:41:01.200 Darryl DuFay: census maps etc what different communities, we had, I think we ended up with 20 was too many, but it indicated that there are define neighborhoods in Venice. 788 01:41:01.830 --> 01:41:15.660 Darryl DuFay: And I would hope that we could get rid of that eight and say and have a different way to describe what we want to do in order to have neighborhoods represented, thank you. 789 01:41:17.610 --> 01:41:18.840 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Darrell i'm. 790 01:41:20.460 --> 01:41:24.900 Daffodil Tyminski: Yolanda go ahead and then I want to darryl respond to what you said because it's a good idea. 791 01:41:25.140 --> 01:41:47.760 reta moser: yeah i'm originally I was, I was Vice President and the neighborhood Committee was started by my vice Presidency and it started with the Charter formation in which the they include into many of us, because we have a specific plan, and I believe the daffodil it's the Community plan. 792 01:41:47.880 --> 01:41:58.830 reta moser: Okay, once the specific plan and once the Community plan, I think we fall under the Community plan of representation of neighborhoods and i'm. 793 01:41:59.820 --> 01:42:08.280 reta moser: i'm just going to tell you, when we when I was Vice President, I had to go out and outreach and and that was not my job to get people involved. 794 01:42:08.670 --> 01:42:20.550 reta moser: They all complain, but they don't want to do anything it's a really big job but being on the neighborhood committee as Vice President for six years, we did a lot, as my. 795 01:42:20.940 --> 01:42:39.930 reta moser: My as the other Vice Presidents that came after me but to get people involved is very hard, but we've done a lot we paid streets when we had on Tonio as our mayor we paid I paid a dd and I paid seven streets here, and then, as we changed light lights. 796 01:42:41.190 --> 01:42:47.490 reta moser: We went to solar lights, we did i'm it's incredible the amount of work that the neighborhood Committee did. 797 01:42:48.060 --> 01:42:57.210 reta moser: We never got acknowledged for it, but I can tell you that on that the this neighborhood committee has done a lot for Venice it's one of the most active committees that we have. 798 01:42:57.630 --> 01:43:08.400 reta moser: So whoever thought that they could expand it, they would have to make a charter change because we are on the Charter basically as neighborhood Councils So whoever came up with that ideas dumb. 799 01:43:08.970 --> 01:43:22.710 reta moser: anyways but i'm just telling you to get people involved to do anything and i'm so happy that East Venice is finally waking enough to be involved, because I went out with dd and I went out there to pay their streets and nobody helped us. 800 01:43:23.640 --> 01:43:32.070 reta moser: On the side but Finally, we have a we have somebody who's really involved because of the construction that's going on in on the side of Venice. 801 01:43:32.460 --> 01:43:42.360 reta moser: been telling you it's not easy but we're doing a great job and let's continue now we're going to make changes as as to how under the Community plan. 802 01:43:42.690 --> 01:43:53.550 reta moser: These neighborhoods are going to be represented, then those people need to step up and fight, and let us know how their how they want to be acknowledged and be represented, because if they were not going to go out and outreach for them. 803 01:43:54.450 --> 01:44:03.600 reta moser: They all complain i've been on it for since the neighborhood Council formation and i've been on it for 25 years so i'm just telling you it's not easy. 804 01:44:06.120 --> 01:44:09.120 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so a couple things. 805 01:44:10.170 --> 01:44:19.020 Daffodil Tyminski: One it seems like we're going to strike, we would like to strike the words assisting and Community outreach yes. 806 01:44:19.980 --> 01:44:22.170 reta moser: Yes, yes okay. 807 01:44:23.370 --> 01:44:24.240 Daffodil Tyminski: hold on record that. 808 01:44:27.480 --> 01:44:32.190 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm glad we're having this discussion actually I didn't know a lot of this background i'm. 809 01:44:32.280 --> 01:44:36.240 Daffodil Tyminski: neighborhood committee define that communities sorry. 810 01:44:36.810 --> 01:44:40.890 reta moser: Why can't the neighborhood committee define the communities with. 811 01:44:40.920 --> 01:44:45.480 Daffodil Tyminski: whoa that's exactly what I was about to say is, do we want to. 812 01:44:47.610 --> 01:44:55.530 Daffodil Tyminski: You know, we know the neighborhood's this isn't that difficult, I think we all agree that the peninsula has too many REPS given how few people proportionately live down there. 813 01:44:58.080 --> 01:45:11.610 Daffodil Tyminski: Do we want to redefine it and or do we want to you know what's what's a little tricky here is we've been waiting for a draft of the updated specific plan. 814 01:45:12.030 --> 01:45:12.240 Daffodil Tyminski: For. 815 01:45:12.510 --> 01:45:19.260 Daffodil Tyminski: city planning right, and I mean, I have a sense of what I think they're going to do, but I don't really know exactly. 816 01:45:19.500 --> 01:45:26.190 Daffodil Tyminski: How they're going to lay things out and we were supposed to have presentations about it, you know, month after month, and they keep canceling it. 817 01:45:26.610 --> 01:45:37.440 Daffodil Tyminski: I think now they finally committed to a time in April, but it on the one hand, I think our current neighborhood layout doesn't work on the other hand, if we try to reset it now. 818 01:45:38.490 --> 01:45:43.680 Daffodil Tyminski: We may end up with something different than comes out with a specific plan and maybe we don't care about that. 819 01:45:44.100 --> 01:45:54.240 reta moser: Well, we don't because Venice is unique, as you say, in oakland we opened, we have different communities different areas so diversity. 820 01:45:54.390 --> 01:45:56.070 reta moser: So me I don't care. 821 01:45:56.700 --> 01:45:57.120 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah. 822 01:45:57.270 --> 01:45:57.720 Daffodil Tyminski: Well, we all. 823 01:45:58.110 --> 01:45:59.010 Daffodil Tyminski: These would. 824 01:45:59.160 --> 01:46:01.170 Daffodil Tyminski: area to me is the most. 825 01:46:03.330 --> 01:46:07.500 Daffodil Tyminski: Under represented area, because you know canals make sense. 826 01:46:09.690 --> 01:46:13.440 Daffodil Tyminski: But oakwood contains millwood it contains north of rose. 827 01:46:13.500 --> 01:46:16.380 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah you know it's just such a big area. 828 01:46:16.920 --> 01:46:33.960 reta moser: So treat it that way and treat the canals, as the canals, you know forget the census forget these specific plan and we have a lot of new, we have a new population, because with so some so many people have moved in and have moved out daffodil it's not that easy. 829 01:46:34.140 --> 01:46:34.710 reta moser: And I know. 830 01:46:35.370 --> 01:46:47.820 reta moser: I know, and when we had even problems with the oakwood district, we were there Okay, we were there to to listen to them and I remember bill rosenthal took a really big. 831 01:46:49.500 --> 01:46:57.690 reta moser: move on on representing open in that, in that sense, with our neighborhood committee because we organized when we were having big problems out there. 832 01:46:57.930 --> 01:47:12.480 reta moser: So it's basically we would have to have a bylaws change and keep it not to just but i'm Ivan needs to keep out of this one, I know that he represents his xr. 833 01:47:13.650 --> 01:47:25.620 reta moser: parliamentarian, but basically and and and I have to say that right now done is not doing their job, either, but who's the who's the one that shows up for meetings, is it. 834 01:47:26.220 --> 01:47:38.670 reta moser: Freddie Freddie he's doing an excellent job, but still he he gets where he gets directions from done Okay, and right now we don't have a great representative of done directing that that. 835 01:47:39.240 --> 01:47:43.140 Daffodil Tyminski: done sole mission seems to just try to eliminate the neighborhood Council. 836 01:47:43.290 --> 01:47:48.420 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah I feel like that's that's what their mission is so they're trying to do the same thing that they're. 837 01:47:48.420 --> 01:47:50.370 reta moser: trying to do in the valley in certain neighborhoods. 838 01:47:51.450 --> 01:47:52.020 Charles Rosin: was done. 839 01:47:53.100 --> 01:47:57.150 Daffodil Tyminski: it's the Orwellian named department of neighborhood empowerment. 840 01:47:58.650 --> 01:47:59.700 Charles Rosin: done anything. 841 01:47:59.970 --> 01:48:00.960 Daffodil Tyminski: Yet the city thing. 842 01:48:00.990 --> 01:48:04.740 Daffodil Tyminski: And it is any oversight arm of the city. 843 01:48:05.010 --> 01:48:06.960 reta moser: name, under which the neighborhood Councils. 844 01:48:07.020 --> 01:48:14.160 Charles Rosin: Okay, well, since we appreciate the history lesson just really quickly understand that the only reason you have neighborhood Councils. 845 01:48:14.490 --> 01:48:26.430 Charles Rosin: Just because homeowner districts got really, really powerful in the mid to late 80s and then City Hall didn't know what to do is and we're going to take over and have our own neighborhood Councils, instead of. 846 01:48:27.390 --> 01:48:42.480 Charles Rosin: A very strong homeowner group in Sherman oaks a very strong homeowner group and carve a circle very we had a lot of places in the city wasn't prepared for the residential community finally to rise up and this is how they neutralized it. 847 01:48:42.810 --> 01:48:52.500 Charles Rosin: yeah no one's ever written about it but that's that that is my way of looking at it, because I was involved with Homeowners and and and then. 848 01:48:53.070 --> 01:49:02.160 Charles Rosin: When I stepped away from that and moved and started raising my kids will other issues, all of a sudden everybody's talking about neighborhood Councils say Okay, but. 849 01:49:02.640 --> 01:49:15.930 Charles Rosin: I don't think it's an improvement for us in the residential communities and knowing that there's a group you just called done no wants to get rid of one that we just said is pretty effective terms of our you are way you. 850 01:49:16.140 --> 01:49:17.310 Daffodil Tyminski: communicate so. 851 01:49:18.000 --> 01:49:29.370 Daffodil Tyminski: So we're going we're going over a little bit longer than we normally do so if your guys are okay with keeping going i'm fine with it, I just sorry we went too long, and I see Helen has her hand raised. 852 01:49:30.570 --> 01:49:32.760 Daffodil Tyminski: And Helen did you just raise it or was that from before. 853 01:49:33.840 --> 01:49:39.930 Helen Fallon: Probably was from before, but I would add, just as an additional comment that. 854 01:49:40.650 --> 01:49:50.190 Helen Fallon: Having a neighborhood committee that really can only make recommendations is a lot different than having neighborhood representatives on the board, who are actually able to vote on issues. 855 01:49:50.640 --> 01:49:55.020 Helen Fallon: And my observation has been as big because the way we're structured currently. 856 01:49:55.860 --> 01:50:03.420 Helen Fallon: oftentimes people are completely unaware, not in touch what's happening in our neighborhoods and are only focused on. 857 01:50:03.870 --> 01:50:12.510 Helen Fallon: You know, we had the majority of the Board last round was all living what Western Pacific so when issues came up and just sort of like home. 858 01:50:13.200 --> 01:50:21.360 Helen Fallon: So I there's a difference between being a committee and actually having a seat at the table and committees don't quite have a seat at the table thanks. 859 01:50:22.290 --> 01:50:26.730 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Helen I don't think we can do anything about the structure of the voting. 860 01:50:27.930 --> 01:50:38.340 Daffodil Tyminski: In this committee, but I do think that we can redefine ourselves so that we get a neighborhood committee that's really more reflective of how Venice actually exists. 861 01:50:38.550 --> 01:50:40.620 reta moser: Oh perfectly perfectly open. 862 01:50:41.040 --> 01:50:53.880 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so the question is, do we want to take the I know I don't want to do this on I think it's this is such an important issue, I don't want to do it on the fly, but I feel like we all seem to be on the same page that. 863 01:50:55.950 --> 01:50:56.730 Daffodil Tyminski: We. 864 01:50:58.620 --> 01:51:09.960 Daffodil Tyminski: want to make a change so, given the time in here, we could make a change to our mission statement and we could get it in on the bylaws meeting that's probably going to happen next week. 865 01:51:10.650 --> 01:51:19.830 Daffodil Tyminski: and get it in the bylaws, but we would either have to very quickly come up with the neighborhoods which actually I don't think would be difficult to do or. 866 01:51:21.030 --> 01:51:31.980 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm have the mission statement a little more open, so we don't specify the neighborhoods but we leave it up as to be determined by the committee. 867 01:51:32.280 --> 01:51:33.480 reta moser: By the neighborhood committee. 868 01:51:33.540 --> 01:51:36.630 Daffodil Tyminski: By the neighbor committee and approved by the board or something like that. 869 01:51:36.840 --> 01:51:38.040 Daffodil Tyminski: I think so Todd which. 870 01:51:38.040 --> 01:51:39.600 Daffodil Tyminski: gives flexibility for the future. 871 01:51:39.630 --> 01:51:42.420 reta moser: Yes, it does because neighborhoods could change. 872 01:51:42.870 --> 01:51:50.760 Daffodil Tyminski: um and I suppose there will be people that think that this is a radical departure from what we've done. 873 01:51:51.210 --> 01:52:00.690 Daffodil Tyminski: It is and what the committee is already been but daryl when you tell me that you've been working on this for 20 years and no one's ever listened, I feel like maybe it's time for a change, it Darrell I see you raise your hand to go ahead. 874 01:52:01.890 --> 01:52:12.180 Darryl DuFay: I would first of all take out the word Venice specific plan out of this yeah totally agree with whatever other people have because the neighborhoods are so important. 875 01:52:12.630 --> 01:52:20.010 Darryl DuFay: If you ever look at the specific plan look at the last there are eight of eight areas look at the last one. 876 01:52:20.490 --> 01:52:34.560 Darryl DuFay: it's about half of Venice it's all good it's everything that was left over yeah it didn't have to do with environment and they just threw that in that was it well, I should never have used. 877 01:52:34.560 --> 01:52:35.340 reta moser: That anyway. 878 01:52:35.910 --> 01:52:48.570 Darryl DuFay: But everything that you said just up to just prior to that I, I agree with neighborhood committees are great, especially for those neighborhoods that want to do something to be heard, thank you. 879 01:52:48.930 --> 01:52:52.620 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah thanks Darrell and yeah and exactly I think part of the deal and. 880 01:52:53.310 --> 01:53:04.710 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm speaking purely from my own experience, taking over and trying to get neighborhoods to coalesce and figure out what's what and because the neighborhood committees definition is so misaligned with reality. 881 01:53:05.130 --> 01:53:14.100 Daffodil Tyminski: It makes it that much harder to do anything effective right right um so um there's a couple ways we could do. 882 01:53:14.100 --> 01:53:14.820 Daffodil Tyminski: This now. 883 01:53:16.650 --> 01:53:23.310 Daffodil Tyminski: We can come up with language, right at the moment and we can. 884 01:53:24.390 --> 01:53:37.920 Daffodil Tyminski: Let me think about this if we we were thinking about trying to do a second bylaws meeting on Tuesday the 29th or at least I wasn't thinking about it, but everyone else was thinking about it, and I was like whatever date works. 885 01:53:40.980 --> 01:53:52.500 Daffodil Tyminski: We could reconvene I could come up with some language and send it out, and we can reconvene either later today or tomorrow, actually we can't do that we don't have time for notice. 886 01:53:54.960 --> 01:53:58.320 Daffodil Tyminski: I will try to come up with the language, very quickly, because I don't think it's going to be that difficult. 887 01:53:59.280 --> 01:54:05.130 reta moser: decibel doesn't just have to go back to done and to the city attorney because we would have to amend our bylaws. 888 01:54:05.550 --> 01:54:07.170 Daffodil Tyminski: So that's already happening. 889 01:54:07.260 --> 01:54:10.350 reta moser: Okay it's the committee that's going to choose right. 890 01:54:11.280 --> 01:54:17.610 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah I would say to be, I would say let's so just can everyone see my screen. 891 01:54:17.790 --> 01:54:19.170 Daffodil Tyminski: Probably not as. 892 01:54:19.710 --> 01:54:21.840 Daffodil Tyminski: You can you can see the neighborhood committee up there. 893 01:54:21.930 --> 01:54:23.490 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah okay perfect. 894 01:54:24.510 --> 01:54:30.060 Daffodil Tyminski: um, so I would say let's strike. 895 01:54:32.970 --> 01:54:39.180 Daffodil Tyminski: The sentence that says, using the existing neighborhoods defined in the specific plan blah blah blah. 896 01:54:40.410 --> 01:54:46.860 Daffodil Tyminski: And just start with where it says, the committee Shelton and hold on, let me see if I can highlight while i'm. 897 01:54:50.160 --> 01:54:52.410 Daffodil Tyminski: On here i'm sorry i'm going to switch. 898 01:54:53.640 --> 01:55:02.670 Daffodil Tyminski: Oh nevermind I can't highlight on a PDF anyway let's start with 123 the third line, starting with the or the after the comma. 899 01:55:04.260 --> 01:55:09.720 Daffodil Tyminski: And just say the committee shall consistent have at a minimum nine stakeholders one. 900 01:55:11.010 --> 01:55:11.940 Daffodil Tyminski: from each. 901 01:55:13.890 --> 01:55:14.910 Daffodil Tyminski: Other neighborhood. 902 01:55:15.210 --> 01:55:17.190 reta moser: as defined by the neighborhood committee. 903 01:55:17.430 --> 01:55:21.090 Daffodil Tyminski: as defined by the neighborhood committee and approved by the board there you go. 904 01:55:22.800 --> 01:55:27.660 Daffodil Tyminski: Because I mean we don't want to be this road committee that just out there, like making it up, but I want. 905 01:55:28.620 --> 01:55:33.870 Helen Fallon: To do you're doing it by law change you got to be a lot more specific it's not a committee that gets to decide to. 906 01:55:35.400 --> 01:55:36.330 Helen Fallon: throw that in there. 907 01:55:38.310 --> 01:55:41.280 Daffodil Tyminski: I actually don't see why not so long as it's approved by the board. 908 01:55:41.520 --> 01:55:42.150 Helen Fallon: Because the law. 909 01:55:42.660 --> 01:55:43.200 Daffodil Tyminski: is to make it. 910 01:55:43.230 --> 01:55:47.910 Helen Fallon: Like Constitution you can't be vague like that it's a circular kind of. 911 01:55:50.310 --> 01:55:57.270 Helen Fallon: This isn't a mission statement basically it's your bylaws and how you're forming this committee, and you can have the committee form. 912 01:55:58.470 --> 01:56:02.310 Helen Fallon: doesn't make any sense, especially when they have to be confirmed by the we're. 913 01:56:04.380 --> 01:56:08.160 Helen Fallon: going to have to define the neighborhood's can't be changing every year. 914 01:56:09.330 --> 01:56:11.970 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, well, that was so I disagree Helen that was sort of the point. 915 01:56:12.030 --> 01:56:13.440 Helen Fallon: Well, I know it's not gonna fall. 916 01:56:15.840 --> 01:56:16.590 Daffodil Tyminski: And then. 917 01:56:18.780 --> 01:56:22.680 Daffodil Tyminski: The rest of it actually I think is fine. 918 01:56:34.590 --> 01:56:35.280 Daffodil Tyminski: Can you hear me. 919 01:56:37.800 --> 01:56:38.520 reta moser: I can. 920 01:56:38.970 --> 01:56:40.710 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay um. 921 01:56:41.910 --> 01:56:51.120 Charles Rosin: I have a question because I don't know so did when we when we were confirmed people voted for us to be able to be up on this committee. 922 01:56:51.420 --> 01:56:52.530 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah but. 923 01:56:52.980 --> 01:56:57.000 Charles Rosin: Everyone there more than one person like, for instance, you wanted to be in the silver tribal. 924 01:56:57.780 --> 01:57:05.790 Daffodil Tyminski: um so we had fewer than nine applicant I can't remember the exact how it worked out, but we had fewer than nine applicants to start. 925 01:57:06.570 --> 01:57:08.610 Darryl DuFay: And so we have three. 926 01:57:09.210 --> 01:57:10.710 Daffodil Tyminski: There were three and then yeah. 927 01:57:12.450 --> 01:57:26.400 Daffodil Tyminski: And, in some cases like an East Venice is the one that comes to mind William applied and then Sergio applied, and they were both for me Venice but Sergio had a different kind of interest that he had, which I thought was a good one. 928 01:57:27.180 --> 01:57:32.850 Darryl DuFay: Because I know he's been he's been this is East spin this is not in the specific plan this way. 929 01:57:33.030 --> 01:57:34.530 reta moser: yeah that's true. 930 01:57:37.020 --> 01:57:37.800 Daffodil Tyminski: um. 931 01:57:40.020 --> 01:57:48.180 Daffodil Tyminski: I thought there was something I don't know something when I first started someone told me, we had to have an East Venice rap but you're right reading this I don't see it. 932 01:57:48.930 --> 01:57:57.450 Darryl DuFay: It was that it was added in because somebody says why here's here's this area and it's not represented on and maybe yeah maybe. 933 01:57:58.230 --> 01:58:07.380 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah so um well I guess you know, the question is, do we wanted to find the neighborhoods right now, or do we want to write something that. 934 01:58:10.080 --> 01:58:13.530 Daffodil Tyminski: gives each board flexibility to define the neighborhoods. 935 01:58:19.440 --> 01:58:20.160 Daffodil Tyminski: Any thoughts. 936 01:58:21.570 --> 01:58:22.050 Darryl DuFay: I can. 937 01:58:22.500 --> 01:58:30.960 reta moser: define the neighborhoods in my area but I can't go beyond Venice boulevard north of Venice boulevard other people would have to do. 938 01:58:30.960 --> 01:58:39.420 Daffodil Tyminski: That, let me just let me just try to run down what I think they are, and then let's see if we like that right we've got Marina peninsula. 939 01:58:39.720 --> 01:58:40.320 Yes. 940 01:58:41.640 --> 01:58:45.450 reta moser: All our triangle, yes, the silver strand. 941 01:58:46.590 --> 01:58:47.670 Daffodil Tyminski: silver strand. 942 01:58:49.650 --> 01:58:51.000 reta moser: This silver triangle. 943 01:58:51.150 --> 01:58:55.110 Daffodil Tyminski: silver triangle canals the. 944 01:58:55.230 --> 01:58:56.430 reta moser: President row. 945 01:58:58.470 --> 01:59:00.870 Daffodil Tyminski: Presidents row right that's. 946 01:59:01.170 --> 01:59:01.980 reta moser: Good oh. 947 01:59:02.730 --> 01:59:04.830 reta moser: What that's as far as I can go. 948 01:59:05.010 --> 01:59:09.720 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so we've got I think we're currently millwood oakland north of rows are all together. 949 01:59:11.190 --> 01:59:14.430 Daffodil Tyminski: I would suggest they be three different neighborhoods I think they're very different. 950 01:59:14.670 --> 01:59:16.380 reta moser: yeah I do too. 951 01:59:16.830 --> 01:59:17.610 and 952 01:59:20.190 --> 01:59:21.690 reta moser: Then we need that beach area. 953 01:59:23.250 --> 01:59:24.690 Daffodil Tyminski: we've got East Venice. 954 01:59:26.880 --> 01:59:30.990 Daffodil Tyminski: And then we've got I would say west of maine. 955 01:59:32.040 --> 01:59:33.600 reta moser: We used to have a millwood area. 956 01:59:34.830 --> 01:59:39.450 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah I don't think there is a year right, this was changed a couple times back and forth. 957 01:59:39.720 --> 01:59:43.890 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so I think there might have been at one point militaria chuck go ahead, what do you think. 958 01:59:45.540 --> 01:59:45.900 Charles Rosin: and 959 01:59:46.980 --> 01:59:57.870 Charles Rosin: 28th street to Washington that's a that's a lot of residents in there, like five different from beach to close close del who's this. 960 01:59:58.560 --> 02:00:04.350 Charles Rosin: They need to have, I think we are missing out in this committee by not having one. 961 02:00:04.890 --> 02:00:18.330 Charles Rosin: or possibly even two representatives from the area in the same way that oakwood is a lot, but at least one is is it can't be the canals and it can't be the silver triangle it it's it's more impacted by Washington boulevard. 962 02:00:19.140 --> 02:00:22.470 Charles Rosin: and ocean than any of the others, therefore, I think they should have to. 963 02:00:23.100 --> 02:00:25.230 reta moser: check, are you talking about the silver triangle. 964 02:00:26.640 --> 02:00:28.290 Charles Rosin: No, so the triangles where I live. 965 02:00:28.530 --> 02:00:30.630 Charles Rosin: i'm talking about just adjacent to it. 966 02:00:31.200 --> 02:00:31.950 Charles Rosin: What do you see that. 967 02:00:32.040 --> 02:00:32.430 reta moser: yeah. 968 02:00:32.670 --> 02:00:33.120 reta moser: What about. 969 02:00:33.840 --> 02:00:38.490 Charles Rosin: A 28 street if you take 28 street would you pick up on ocean. 970 02:00:39.600 --> 02:01:00.750 Charles Rosin: That takes you all the way to clone you go the Pacific triangle is effectively the triangle it's on one side it's it's mildred it work the street, I live on, which is the East side, and then the West side would be harbor the north side would be a beach and the low side would be. 971 02:01:02.130 --> 02:01:04.290 Charles Rosin: Wilson or the street called Brian. 972 02:01:04.320 --> 02:01:06.270 reta moser: Washington boulevard in fact when yeah. 973 02:01:06.600 --> 02:01:08.700 Charles Rosin: So that's the silver triangle, but this is. 974 02:01:08.700 --> 02:01:09.630 Charles Rosin: My door to it. 975 02:01:10.350 --> 02:01:11.970 reta moser: you're talking about the beach area. 976 02:01:13.080 --> 02:01:13.410 Darryl DuFay: No. 977 02:01:13.770 --> 02:01:16.710 Charles Rosin: No north of north of Washington. 978 02:01:18.930 --> 02:01:20.490 Charles Rosin: Some Ocean to. 979 02:01:22.620 --> 02:01:26.190 Charles Rosin: Just like right writing up to Washington square yes. 980 02:01:26.790 --> 02:01:29.100 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah yeah it's like grayson and. 981 02:01:29.760 --> 02:01:30.510 reta moser: Other restaurants. 982 02:01:31.590 --> 02:01:32.370 Daffodil Tyminski: cantina cantinas. 983 02:01:32.400 --> 02:01:33.030 Daffodil Tyminski: Behind there. 984 02:01:33.300 --> 02:01:33.690 yeah. 985 02:01:34.860 --> 02:01:40.680 Daffodil Tyminski: I think we can, I think we do need to have like I would probably put them with the canals. 986 02:01:41.250 --> 02:01:49.380 Charles Rosin: yeah but you would use that but you just broke it up the aqua to three different neighborhoods i'm saying this is a distinct neighborhood than the canals and the silver triangle. 987 02:01:49.530 --> 02:02:00.270 Daffodil Tyminski: Well, Tony I was just about to say this, if the list I just gave us 1-234-567-8910 that's 10 neighborhoods. 988 02:02:00.720 --> 02:02:07.650 Darryl DuFay: What about what about ocean front block north and south it's broken up into right isn't. 989 02:02:07.680 --> 02:02:10.140 reta moser: At least two at least two yeah. 990 02:02:10.500 --> 02:02:17.850 Daffodil Tyminski: here's the reality, though we can't have too many committee members, because it just gets unwieldy when you have too many people. 991 02:02:17.910 --> 02:02:19.260 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah i'm. 992 02:02:19.710 --> 02:02:28.290 Daffodil Tyminski: From a day to day nuts and bolts committee point of view I get it i'd love to have more representation, but we can't break everything up to that small. 993 02:02:32.220 --> 02:02:36.570 Daffodil Tyminski: It seems like the biggest issue we currently have is this at the marinas over represented. 994 02:02:38.760 --> 02:02:40.080 reta moser: What peninsula. 995 02:02:40.350 --> 02:02:40.710 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah well. 996 02:02:40.740 --> 02:02:41.760 Darryl DuFay: The iona. 997 02:02:42.750 --> 02:02:45.960 Daffodil Tyminski: The bionic creek or by iona lagoon or whatever it's called. 998 02:02:46.260 --> 02:02:46.800 reta moser: Oh, I don't know. 999 02:02:47.610 --> 02:02:48.000 reta moser: I don't. 1000 02:02:48.570 --> 02:02:49.650 reta moser: I don't understand that. 1001 02:02:50.490 --> 02:02:54.660 reta moser: um I think neighborhoods not the bolo nothing. 1002 02:02:55.320 --> 02:03:01.710 Darryl DuFay: If you're talking about population, you could have just one represented south of Washington. 1003 02:03:03.360 --> 02:03:03.870 reta moser: Here we go. 1004 02:03:04.470 --> 02:03:05.970 Darryl DuFay: and take both sides. 1005 02:03:07.620 --> 02:03:12.090 Darryl DuFay: Taking combined silver Strand and Marina peninsula into one group. 1006 02:03:13.470 --> 02:03:17.340 Darryl DuFay: That would take care of your concern about Marina too much. 1007 02:03:20.790 --> 02:03:25.620 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah that's good I think that's a good idea to combine those two that makes sense. 1008 02:03:25.980 --> 02:03:29.370 reta moser: Well, their problems are unique that's the situation. 1009 02:03:30.120 --> 02:03:34.050 Daffodil Tyminski: What do you mean their problems are unique unique visa V one another, or as. 1010 02:03:34.140 --> 02:03:34.740 Daffodil Tyminski: The record of. 1011 02:03:34.920 --> 02:03:36.780 reta moser: Their unique from each other. 1012 02:03:37.590 --> 02:03:38.250 Daffodil Tyminski: How so. 1013 02:03:38.790 --> 02:03:42.390 reta moser: Well, the peninsula eliminated the bike beach. 1014 02:03:44.490 --> 02:03:46.290 reta moser: The bike path through the peninsula. 1015 02:03:48.600 --> 02:03:50.820 reta moser: It never affected the silver triangle. 1016 02:03:52.530 --> 02:03:53.460 reta moser: Things like that. 1017 02:03:53.520 --> 02:03:56.100 Daffodil Tyminski: And that knows that silver triangle silver strand. 1018 02:03:57.000 --> 02:04:02.820 reta moser: Oh silver silver Strand and oh okay i'm sorry i'm sorry really sorry well. 1019 02:04:02.910 --> 02:04:03.990 Daffodil Tyminski: felicia, what do you think. 1020 02:04:07.230 --> 02:04:09.840 Daffodil Tyminski: I think either your volume may be off. 1021 02:04:10.440 --> 02:04:17.430 feliciasaltzbart: Here we go Okay, I was just gonna say i'm on silver strength, I live on the silver strand I have lived on the peninsula. 1022 02:04:19.200 --> 02:04:27.030 feliciasaltzbart: I do think that are unique issues facing the strand versus the peninsula unless i'm not understanding the demarcation very well, but like what you have going on. 1023 02:04:27.450 --> 02:04:40.590 feliciasaltzbart: On Pacific to the ocean, which I believe is more the peninsula Is that true is different from the strand, which is kind of like the canal over into cheesecake factory area is that correct. 1024 02:04:40.680 --> 02:04:41.850 reta moser: yeah yeah. 1025 02:04:42.090 --> 02:04:45.450 feliciasaltzbart: Very different issues me facing our communities. 1026 02:04:46.650 --> 02:04:52.530 feliciasaltzbart: there's I mean I can go on about that, but so I don't know if necessarily she lump them into the same is what i'm saying. 1027 02:04:53.430 --> 02:04:55.860 Cassie B: hi i'm actually in the silver strand to. 1028 02:04:57.000 --> 02:05:01.080 reta moser: What why don't we have just a committee to decide these communities. 1029 02:05:02.400 --> 02:05:05.040 reta moser: And a big map well it's. 1030 02:05:05.100 --> 02:05:21.360 reta moser: Really maps they've screwed us up so many times yeah but yeah for the boundaries, but we've gone below and we've gone specific plan and we've done all these things, and now we're trying to define it by unique communities. 1031 02:05:21.600 --> 02:05:30.570 reta moser: yeah and I think this is so important, and I think only human beings can do this, and then we can get the map and decide the exact areas. 1032 02:05:32.340 --> 02:05:35.010 Darryl DuFay: Please cross out alone lagoon. 1033 02:05:36.030 --> 02:05:38.040 reta moser: yeah forget that forget this. 1034 02:05:38.040 --> 02:05:38.520 Darryl DuFay: Data were. 1035 02:05:38.790 --> 02:05:40.890 reta moser: There see the were to read the sentences. 1036 02:05:41.010 --> 02:05:44.040 reta moser: And at the census forget those things. 1037 02:05:45.180 --> 02:05:47.010 reta moser: And just go by communities. 1038 02:05:48.120 --> 02:05:48.540 Daffodil Tyminski: Right. 1039 02:05:50.130 --> 02:06:01.170 reta moser: unique communities, like the silver strand does is is different than the peninsula peninsula has a lot more movement than the silver strand, and the silver strand is brand new. 1040 02:06:01.590 --> 02:06:02.460 feliciasaltzbart: totally agree. 1041 02:06:03.270 --> 02:06:06.120 reta moser: yeah and they have a bridge that needs to be fixed. 1042 02:06:08.280 --> 02:06:08.730 Daffodil Tyminski: Yes. 1043 02:06:08.760 --> 02:06:09.570 we've heard about that. 1044 02:06:11.460 --> 02:06:24.210 reta moser: And they have homeless sleeping under the bridge, so they have unique problems, compared with the morning let's Let us just to form a little Community a committee to distinguish these areas. 1045 02:06:24.690 --> 02:06:26.370 Daffodil Tyminski: Fine okay. 1046 02:06:27.600 --> 02:06:31.080 Daffodil Tyminski: I regret not having done this sooner, because I actually hadn't. 1047 02:06:31.170 --> 02:06:42.030 Daffodil Tyminski: realized the issues around it until pretty recently, but the reality of our timing is that we're not going to be able to change this after next week. 1048 02:06:43.350 --> 02:06:47.640 Daffodil Tyminski: So there's a couple different ways I can do this. 1049 02:06:49.650 --> 02:06:56.640 Daffodil Tyminski: We could, and when you said i'm Rita let's get together with a map, do you mean on zoom or. 1050 02:06:57.270 --> 02:07:13.440 reta moser: Well, however well we a map of Venice, you know, a street map of Venice, so that we can define these areas if we have to define them the triangle Oxford triangle is pretty well defined by Lincoln Washington and the admiralty. 1051 02:07:14.820 --> 02:07:21.900 reta moser: The bike path right other areas, perhaps we need streets, because when you talk about the. 1052 02:07:23.370 --> 02:07:23.820 reta moser: The. 1053 02:07:25.140 --> 02:07:30.960 reta moser: Were daryl is the canals, then why not include up to. 1054 02:07:32.400 --> 02:07:32.910 Daffodil Tyminski: Washington. 1055 02:07:33.660 --> 02:07:36.060 reta moser: avenue and Washington boulevard. 1056 02:07:36.510 --> 02:07:37.860 reta moser: And Lincoln boulevard. 1057 02:07:40.830 --> 02:07:47.670 reta moser: and up to the silver triangle, why not make it that whole group because it's definable. 1058 02:07:49.350 --> 02:08:01.950 reta moser: All right, yeah darryl knows the problems that the what I forgotten his short street or the street that doesn't have a canal that's just across the street from him i'm sure he knows those problems. 1059 02:08:02.250 --> 02:08:09.210 Daffodil Tyminski: Right so would you guys be amenable to meeting tomorrow and hashing this out. 1060 02:08:09.900 --> 02:08:11.910 reta moser: Oh, I got a meeting at 1030. 1061 02:08:13.500 --> 02:08:14.190 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm. 1062 02:08:18.360 --> 02:08:20.220 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay i'm. 1063 02:08:21.900 --> 02:08:25.560 Daffodil Tyminski: So, again i'm back to we can either. 1064 02:08:27.930 --> 02:08:29.760 Daffodil Tyminski: invite a craft away to leave. 1065 02:08:29.940 --> 02:08:30.660 The. 1066 02:08:32.250 --> 02:08:33.510 Daffodil Tyminski: Definition open. 1067 02:08:35.760 --> 02:08:38.550 Daffodil Tyminski: Like i'll run it by Ivan or whoever, but I think. 1068 02:08:38.550 --> 02:08:40.590 Daffodil Tyminski: One thing we could do is say. 1069 02:08:40.800 --> 02:08:47.340 Daffodil Tyminski: If we if we don't want to just leave it so open, we could say, as defined by the Standing rules. 1070 02:08:48.660 --> 02:08:50.160 reta moser: Oh there yeah yeah. 1071 02:08:50.220 --> 02:08:50.880 reta moser: Because we've been. 1072 02:08:50.910 --> 02:08:52.440 Daffodil Tyminski: Time to change the rules. 1073 02:08:52.470 --> 02:08:53.340 reta moser: Yes, cool. 1074 02:08:53.700 --> 02:08:58.440 Daffodil Tyminski: I like and this way we can be more specific and take you know, a couple weeks and figure it out. 1075 02:08:58.890 --> 02:08:59.250 yeah. 1076 02:09:00.660 --> 02:09:07.740 Daffodil Tyminski: I mean Look, we are the committee we are for this board it's not a guess at the moment that big of a deal but. 1077 02:09:10.650 --> 02:09:25.170 Daffodil Tyminski: I did hear echoing similar to what Darrell said, like people are like, why is this define this way you know i've been complaining about this forever and I was like oh i've had no idea let's see if we can talk about it, it seems like everybody wants to change so. 1078 02:09:26.040 --> 02:09:26.430 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah. 1079 02:09:27.210 --> 02:09:28.890 reta moser: Well i'll be happy to help with the. 1080 02:09:30.840 --> 02:09:35.280 reta moser: The southern area up to Lincoln boulevard beyond Lincoln boulevard I have no idea. 1081 02:09:36.030 --> 02:09:36.480 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay. 1082 02:09:36.720 --> 02:09:43.470 Darryl DuFay: Do you want you want to put a number in like 10 because it's that is important, it doesn't get. 1083 02:09:46.110 --> 02:09:46.470 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah. 1084 02:09:46.920 --> 02:09:52.050 Darryl DuFay: Is that a number that would probably deal with it, or do you want to put no number in there. 1085 02:09:52.440 --> 02:09:52.800 reta moser: What is. 1086 02:09:53.850 --> 02:09:55.440 Darryl DuFay: 1010 neighborhoods. 1087 02:09:56.190 --> 02:09:57.270 reta moser: Oh don't do that. 1088 02:09:58.110 --> 02:10:00.690 Daffodil Tyminski: How about we say at least nine neighborhoods. 1089 02:10:01.650 --> 02:10:02.220 reta moser: There you go. 1090 02:10:02.520 --> 02:10:03.330 Darryl DuFay: that's fine. 1091 02:10:03.600 --> 02:10:05.370 Daffodil Tyminski: So why don't we say. 1092 02:10:06.390 --> 02:10:10.350 Daffodil Tyminski: And so neighborhood committee chaired by the Vice President. 1093 02:10:12.870 --> 02:10:17.190 Daffodil Tyminski: as defined in the Standing rules, the committee shall consist of a minimum. 1094 02:10:18.060 --> 02:10:18.810 reta moser: don't do that. 1095 02:10:19.380 --> 02:10:21.390 reta moser: What just say approximately. 1096 02:10:22.350 --> 02:10:26.520 Daffodil Tyminski: Well, no, I think we have to say, a minimum nine stakeholders, plus the Chair. 1097 02:10:26.820 --> 02:10:28.110 reta moser: Well, things could change. 1098 02:10:28.620 --> 02:10:30.180 Daffodil Tyminski: that's true um. 1099 02:10:31.980 --> 02:10:32.400 Daffodil Tyminski: um. 1100 02:10:36.450 --> 02:10:43.320 Daffodil Tyminski: it's interesting that they did this just from a parliamentary perspective that they tied it to nine plus one chair. 1101 02:10:43.620 --> 02:10:44.310 reta moser: yeah it is. 1102 02:10:46.620 --> 02:10:48.480 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah I know this isn't I haven't special. 1103 02:10:48.870 --> 02:11:03.090 Darryl DuFay: yeah well that's because this is a permanent committee and your position, your position is the second most important, as you know, President and Vice President, yes, the neighborhood committee is important. 1104 02:11:03.330 --> 02:11:04.650 reta moser: Really it really is. 1105 02:11:04.710 --> 02:11:05.610 reta moser: it's a it's a. 1106 02:11:06.840 --> 02:11:15.990 reta moser: it's a big artery to the neighborhood console or it should be and that's why it's so important that it be represented, that you have a representative from each. 1107 02:11:17.040 --> 02:11:18.480 reta moser: peculiar area. 1108 02:11:19.290 --> 02:11:19.740 Charles Rosin: Right. 1109 02:11:20.280 --> 02:11:32.730 Daffodil Tyminski: So this is, this is what I have and i'm saying this so we can think through the right number of people, Marina peninsula Oxford triangle silver strands silver triangle canals Presidents row. 1110 02:11:34.290 --> 02:11:41.040 Daffodil Tyminski: millwood oakwood know row East Venice ocean front walk North ocean front walk south. 1111 02:11:42.240 --> 02:11:47.610 Daffodil Tyminski: And I would probably call it beach northern beach South so we go Pacific, you know Main Street to the beach. 1112 02:11:47.820 --> 02:11:53.490 Daffodil Tyminski: right that is 1-234-567-8910 1112 areas. 1113 02:11:53.730 --> 02:11:58.260 reta moser: that's why it's hard to do by numbers okay say right say no more than 15. 1114 02:11:59.070 --> 02:12:00.600 Daffodil Tyminski: Well, no, I was gonna say. 1115 02:12:00.750 --> 02:12:01.800 reta moser: Have these fitness. 1116 02:12:03.180 --> 02:12:04.110 Daffodil Tyminski: Ease fantasy do. 1117 02:12:04.350 --> 02:12:04.770 Okay. 1118 02:12:06.030 --> 02:12:14.010 reta moser: i'll shut up where does the Abbot kinney and then a theory of fall into there you go and the link and corridor yeah the Lincoln corridor. 1119 02:12:24.120 --> 02:12:25.320 Daffodil Tyminski: that's 14. 1120 02:12:26.370 --> 02:12:26.730 reta moser: What. 1121 02:12:26.850 --> 02:12:40.020 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm Abbot kinney in all honesty it's funny i've talked to people that are merchants on Abbot kinney who really don't like the fact that, in the specific plan it splits down Abbot kinney. 1122 02:12:41.010 --> 02:12:41.850 reta moser: Well, it shouldn't be. 1123 02:12:42.300 --> 02:12:45.150 Daffodil Tyminski: right and it messes up the street and so. 1124 02:12:45.210 --> 02:12:52.110 reta moser: As far as residential is concerned, it should split but not, there should be a special committee for Abbot kinney. 1125 02:12:54.210 --> 02:13:01.050 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah you know I actually it's funny you say this because I reached out to the Abbot kinney merchants association. 1126 02:13:01.680 --> 02:13:15.870 Daffodil Tyminski: And I thought, as part of the neighborhood committee, we could do something for Abbot kinney and do like an awareness day or try to you know coming out of coven get business going things like that they had absolutely no interest in being involved. 1127 02:13:16.230 --> 02:13:20.520 reta moser: Well, we started the Friday night well interest events for them so. 1128 02:13:20.550 --> 02:13:27.990 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah I think what's happened on advocacy, which is quite sad is um we're getting more and more chain stores. 1129 02:13:28.770 --> 02:13:29.880 Daffodil Tyminski: In mckinney. 1130 02:13:30.090 --> 02:13:39.690 Daffodil Tyminski: And so they're just not invested in the Community, they don't want to go to the meetings they don't want to pay dues into Community improvement stuff they literally could care less. 1131 02:13:40.230 --> 02:13:43.530 reta moser: What we want change storage, which is dense no. 1132 02:13:46.140 --> 02:13:47.460 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah there's tons of. 1133 02:13:47.460 --> 02:13:47.910 reta moser: jail. 1134 02:13:48.270 --> 02:13:50.490 reta moser: yeah there's there's a whole bunch yeah. 1135 02:13:50.580 --> 02:13:53.700 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah I would say, actually, more than half of advocacy is now chain stores. 1136 02:13:53.730 --> 02:13:58.620 reta moser: yeah well, I agree with you, I just think it's separate from the residential areas. 1137 02:13:58.890 --> 02:14:02.820 Daffodil Tyminski: Right, but I just think in terms of having a representative for Abbot kinney like they don't even. 1138 02:14:02.820 --> 02:14:10.680 Daffodil Tyminski: want to go to the advocate merchants association, so I I think it's personally important but I don't think we're ever going to get somebody really interested in doing that. 1139 02:14:12.420 --> 02:14:14.700 reta moser: Residents that live above the above. 1140 02:14:16.380 --> 02:14:24.480 reta moser: Okay, well, I think the link and why aren't even know we could get someone in invested in the link and corridor, which is going to be more snow. 1141 02:14:25.020 --> 02:14:30.210 Daffodil Tyminski: Now, remember, we always can appoint at discretion more people on so, for example, that's what I there you. 1142 02:14:30.210 --> 02:14:34.980 Daffodil Tyminski: go right like he had a case, why he thought he was me i'm like I think that's a great idea. 1143 02:14:35.010 --> 02:14:35.700 reta moser: Like you've got yeah. 1144 02:14:35.880 --> 02:14:39.150 Daffodil Tyminski: Well, so long as you know you show up yeah great. 1145 02:14:39.540 --> 02:14:39.960 reta moser: that's good. 1146 02:14:41.910 --> 02:14:46.710 Daffodil Tyminski: So this 1-234-567-8910 1112. 1147 02:14:48.360 --> 02:14:51.330 reta moser: Make it no less than no more than 15 at this point. 1148 02:14:51.930 --> 02:15:01.440 Daffodil Tyminski: Well, I think I think actually thinking it through in the future we want to have a minimum, not a maximum because the minimum we don't want someone to say. 1149 02:15:01.440 --> 02:15:03.810 Daffodil Tyminski: Man i'm only going to have three people on the committee. 1150 02:15:03.870 --> 02:15:06.270 reta moser: yeah save them say men. 1151 02:15:06.870 --> 02:15:08.880 Daffodil Tyminski: And so the question is. 1152 02:15:12.870 --> 02:15:13.980 Daffodil Tyminski: Do we. 1153 02:15:16.440 --> 02:15:19.890 Daffodil Tyminski: Define millwood oakwood and no road together. 1154 02:15:21.510 --> 02:15:21.900 reta moser: I don't know. 1155 02:15:23.070 --> 02:15:28.050 Daffodil Tyminski: Do we define i'm going to call it beach North and South, together, or do we just have. 1156 02:15:28.110 --> 02:15:29.700 reta moser: No they're separate. 1157 02:15:31.800 --> 02:15:32.340 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay. 1158 02:15:32.940 --> 02:15:35.760 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah and then you do we have. 1159 02:15:37.380 --> 02:15:38.970 Daffodil Tyminski: renamed silver strand. 1160 02:15:41.520 --> 02:15:46.260 Daffodil Tyminski: Together, and I think we've already answered that now felicia, by the way you have your hand up or something else you want to say. 1161 02:15:52.770 --> 02:16:04.590 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so it seems like then either we leave this open and say, as defined in the Standing rules, and we continue conversation on it, or we just go with these. 1162 02:16:08.250 --> 02:16:08.940 Daffodil Tyminski: neighborhoods. 1163 02:16:09.120 --> 02:16:09.810 reta moser: Either one. 1164 02:16:11.280 --> 02:16:12.390 Daffodil Tyminski: Does anyone have any. 1165 02:16:15.330 --> 02:16:15.840 Daffodil Tyminski: Thought on that. 1166 02:16:16.260 --> 02:16:18.900 Charles Rosin: predefined on your preference on this. 1167 02:16:19.410 --> 02:16:22.380 Daffodil Tyminski: I mean, it would mean expanding the I mean we would have to. 1168 02:16:24.180 --> 02:16:25.260 Daffodil Tyminski: expand the committee. 1169 02:16:30.900 --> 02:16:45.240 Charles Rosin: Well, I think that's a good thing, I know you, it can be unwieldy, but I think that understanding how the what the neighborhood committees about, and the fact that it isn't a boat in its recommendation to think we don't we don't have anybody. 1170 02:16:46.920 --> 02:16:49.350 Charles Rosin: abuse the committee, so I don't know. 1171 02:16:51.090 --> 02:16:54.360 Charles Rosin: Two other people coming in, I don't know if they weren't as well. 1172 02:16:54.810 --> 02:17:08.700 Daffodil Tyminski: Right yeah Okay, I mean I don't know I think it's great I think the neighborhood committee representing each of the distinct neighborhoods is our fundamental grassroots way of organizing and Venice and being productive, so I really like it, but go ahead Rita. 1173 02:17:09.240 --> 02:17:21.270 reta moser: I do too, and the reason being sometimes there's no activity in one area and sometimes the whole area is just very fd look at the the golden triangle, or the Oxford triangle. 1174 02:17:22.500 --> 02:17:37.020 reta moser: there's really no activity, right now, other than sidewalks or whatever we've already fixed our sidewalks so we really have no activity for the neighborhood committee, but we did when we put up 519 storey buildings. 1175 02:17:37.470 --> 02:17:43.890 reta moser: yeah so it varies, and I think it's important that someone comes in and says, I have no activity. 1176 02:17:45.150 --> 02:17:46.590 Daffodil Tyminski: Nothing going on okay. 1177 02:17:48.690 --> 02:17:57.180 Daffodil Tyminski: Well, so, then why don't we propose a change, where we say. 1178 02:17:58.860 --> 02:18:08.820 Daffodil Tyminski: will strike this using the eight neighborhoods language and say that committee shall consist of at a minimum 12 stakeholders, one from each of the following neighborhoods. 1179 02:18:09.360 --> 02:18:19.830 Daffodil Tyminski: Marina peninsula Oxford triangle silver strands silver triangle canals Presidents row millwood oakwood know row East Venice beach North beach self. 1180 02:18:21.210 --> 02:18:24.930 Daffodil Tyminski: And we can say, as defined in the Standing roles and work up them up later. 1181 02:18:25.830 --> 02:18:29.700 Daffodil Tyminski: And then leave the rest of the language, the same except that we will strike. 1182 02:18:29.730 --> 02:18:34.650 Daffodil Tyminski: out the words at the third line from the bottom assisting and Community outreach. 1183 02:18:35.160 --> 02:18:36.780 reta moser: Very good, very good yeah. 1184 02:18:36.810 --> 02:18:37.830 Daffodil Tyminski: cuz everyone like that. 1185 02:18:37.980 --> 02:18:38.820 reta moser: Yes, yep. 1186 02:18:39.150 --> 02:18:44.310 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so I will make a motion to make that change. 1187 02:18:45.120 --> 02:18:48.900 Daffodil Tyminski: I second you second it Okay, do we want to take public comment. 1188 02:18:49.080 --> 02:18:50.370 Daffodil Tyminski: We do actually. 1189 02:18:50.550 --> 02:18:52.830 Daffodil Tyminski: I don't know how long, if you want to say anything I think you're still. 1190 02:18:52.890 --> 02:18:59.070 Helen Fallon: Right, I just wanted to point out that this is a standing committee I. 1191 02:19:00.750 --> 02:19:10.410 Helen Fallon: I don't know that you put in that you're defining as defined in the Standing rules, because the bylaws trump the standing rules so that's a little awkward about suggestion. 1192 02:19:11.610 --> 02:19:21.360 Helen Fallon: You may want to refine how you select people how the process, but I don't think you're referring to the standing rules as definitions when you're talking by was. 1193 02:19:21.780 --> 02:19:25.530 reta moser: take it back lit lit a parliamentarian are done look into it. 1194 02:19:29.430 --> 02:19:43.830 Daffodil Tyminski: Right well Helen, this is a practical issue right, not the world can't be perfect, and I wish it would, but if we want to redefine the neighborhoods we either have to everyone's got to get on a second meeting within the map or. 1195 02:19:44.880 --> 02:19:47.880 Daffodil Tyminski: We leave it open for us to do that later. 1196 02:19:48.630 --> 02:19:58.380 Helen Fallon: Well, except the problem is, you have to submit them by April 1 has to be approved by the board problem with doing everything at the last minute and then our bylaws committee and do things. 1197 02:19:59.160 --> 02:20:07.200 Helen Fallon: and start working on these things early enough to get people involved so yeah, it is the problem with last minute i'm just pointing out that that. 1198 02:20:08.130 --> 02:20:17.790 Helen Fallon: That, I think that when these bylaws would be reviewed and these amendments we reviewed the language might be problematic because by allies are superseding standing rules. 1199 02:20:19.140 --> 02:20:20.010 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, thank you. 1200 02:20:21.480 --> 02:20:27.840 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, is there any more board comment on this know anyone know okay. 1201 02:20:28.020 --> 02:20:37.470 Charles Rosin: I I still think that he had another committee will look into it, but I think that you're you were perhaps short changing a lot of people don't. 1202 02:20:38.340 --> 02:20:49.200 Charles Rosin: Live between 28 street Washington boulevard I mean it's I don't know the exact numbers of how many there are, but I just don't think it's the canals. 1203 02:20:49.470 --> 02:20:50.550 I don't think Carol. 1204 02:20:52.860 --> 02:20:54.060 Charles Rosin: I don't think Darrell would be. 1205 02:20:55.470 --> 02:20:57.120 reta moser: neat and basically they're all. 1206 02:20:58.200 --> 02:20:59.580 reta moser: very hard to get them involved. 1207 02:20:59.640 --> 02:21:08.400 reta moser: And I think daryl is capable of of communicating and knowing those problems, yes, since he's part of the canals. 1208 02:21:09.270 --> 02:21:13.140 Charles Rosin: I don't think your understanding the area that i'm talking about I know. 1209 02:21:13.500 --> 02:21:13.710 It. 1210 02:21:15.990 --> 02:21:16.320 Charles Rosin: All. 1211 02:21:16.410 --> 02:21:22.080 reta moser: it's all single residents Oh, those are in the north and south beach areas. 1212 02:21:23.190 --> 02:21:28.380 Daffodil Tyminski: No they're not they would be lumped in I just don't think there's that many people over there. 1213 02:21:29.130 --> 02:21:29.550 reta moser: There are. 1214 02:21:29.610 --> 02:21:32.220 Daffodil Tyminski: There all single family homes for like four blocks. 1215 02:21:32.400 --> 02:21:34.650 reta moser: yeah but what just what are they in. 1216 02:21:35.970 --> 02:21:36.840 reta moser: For box. 1217 02:21:36.900 --> 02:21:38.790 Daffodil Tyminski: they're currently in the canals area. 1218 02:21:40.440 --> 02:21:40.860 Darryl DuFay: Are they. 1219 02:21:40.950 --> 02:21:43.170 reta moser: Are they West or north of specific. 1220 02:21:43.800 --> 02:21:44.640 Daffodil Tyminski: I mean they are. 1221 02:21:45.180 --> 02:21:47.070 Daffodil Tyminski: They are eastern Pacific north of. 1222 02:21:47.070 --> 02:21:51.330 reta moser: Washington oh all of those East to Pacific should go with the canals. 1223 02:21:54.000 --> 02:21:59.370 reta moser: they're not four blocks there's oh four blocks one way yeah but they're mainly I don't know no. 1224 02:21:59.640 --> 02:22:00.660 Daffodil Tyminski: Doubt well it's. 1225 02:22:00.660 --> 02:22:03.540 Daffodil Tyminski: Close it's grayson and then ocean right. 1226 02:22:04.290 --> 02:22:05.130 Charles Rosin: Oh beach. 1227 02:22:06.300 --> 02:22:07.080 Charles Rosin: beach as well. 1228 02:22:07.440 --> 02:22:08.640 Daffodil Tyminski: And beach right. 1229 02:22:10.530 --> 02:22:11.100 Daffodil Tyminski: um. 1230 02:22:11.490 --> 02:22:12.000 Oh. 1231 02:22:13.140 --> 02:22:23.850 Charles Rosin: yeah I think there's a fourth and additional street to between grayson and that anyway i'm just saying at the end Darrell if deal feels than anybody in the canals would have the same degree of interest. 1232 02:22:24.330 --> 02:22:35.490 Charles Rosin: As as that I mean he's representing the canals now someone else at some point could conceivably and the point is is this an area that you, you have your canals. 1233 02:22:37.080 --> 02:22:38.790 Charles Rosin: reach out to those houses to. 1234 02:22:42.480 --> 02:22:50.910 Daffodil Tyminski: So it's i'm looking at it on a map it's actually physically probably about the same size as the canals, I see you're talking about. 1235 02:22:54.180 --> 02:22:54.900 Daffodil Tyminski: beach. 1236 02:22:56.010 --> 02:23:00.570 Daffodil Tyminski: Sorry, I thought beach was something else so you're talking about from the grand Canal. 1237 02:23:03.240 --> 02:23:03.480 Daffodil Tyminski: All. 1238 02:23:05.490 --> 02:23:08.400 Charles Rosin: For now, yes that's exactly right 20. 1239 02:23:08.490 --> 02:23:10.410 Daffodil Tyminski: Grand you know the eastern Canal. 1240 02:23:10.710 --> 02:23:19.110 Charles Rosin: sell food 28th street north of Washington cheers me East yeah from 28th of Washington. 1241 02:23:20.280 --> 02:23:20.610 that's. 1242 02:23:22.620 --> 02:23:23.070 Daffodil Tyminski: Right. 1243 02:23:24.600 --> 02:23:26.220 reta moser: it's it's it's. 1244 02:23:27.270 --> 02:23:29.220 reta moser: East of ocean in my career. 1245 02:23:29.400 --> 02:23:36.330 Daffodil Tyminski: I you know what I honestly think absent any one really asking for it, I wouldn't split them up. 1246 02:23:36.990 --> 02:23:42.180 Daffodil Tyminski: No they're all one block long yeah and really adjacent to the canals. 1247 02:23:42.690 --> 02:23:44.880 reta moser: And they're there, yes, yes. 1248 02:23:45.810 --> 02:23:55.500 Charles Rosin: I again, I just want to ask Darrell does he feel that that that these issues that come up down on 28th street so ever ever reach him in the canals. 1249 02:23:56.400 --> 02:23:59.520 Charles Rosin: No that's my answer me neither here. 1250 02:23:59.820 --> 02:24:05.550 Darryl DuFay: Well, I mean right now they're spending a million dollars just on one street there. 1251 02:24:06.990 --> 02:24:13.350 Darryl DuFay: But it got it got it got taken care of Rita is read it is right when we talk about. 1252 02:24:14.460 --> 02:24:34.350 Darryl DuFay: issues that come up and dominate which the canals renovation dominated for almost 15 years and when that was taken care of we now have some environmental things, but some some a i'm sure some communities don't have anything. 1253 02:24:35.490 --> 02:24:56.550 Darryl DuFay: If you really wanted to then make a list, maybe it would make a list for sidewalks for everybody, or just projects that would that are that are determined that i'm not making myself clear, instead of having neighborhood. 1254 02:24:56.820 --> 02:25:09.090 Darryl DuFay: yeah you have issues that you're facing yeah like saw likes sidewalks so anybody in Venice would have a committee that they would go to. 1255 02:25:09.960 --> 02:25:19.980 Daffodil Tyminski: Right so actually looking at the map the boundaries are pretty easy to define right, because I know silver strand, we know the peninsula. 1256 02:25:21.180 --> 02:25:21.720 Daffodil Tyminski: Right. 1257 02:25:22.020 --> 02:25:25.620 Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, oh it's just you know that ends at Washington. 1258 02:25:27.720 --> 02:25:32.310 Daffodil Tyminski: The canals, if we add this this area in it's basically. 1259 02:25:34.350 --> 02:25:38.340 Daffodil Tyminski: Pacific to between Washington and Venice up to. 1260 02:25:39.780 --> 02:25:40.410 Daffodil Tyminski: ocean. 1261 02:25:41.520 --> 02:25:42.330 reta moser: Up to build one. 1262 02:25:44.880 --> 02:25:46.470 reta moser: And motion 2 million yeah. 1263 02:25:46.560 --> 02:25:48.180 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah Ocean to millwood. 1264 02:25:48.630 --> 02:25:50.070 Daffodil Tyminski: mildred mildred. 1265 02:25:50.310 --> 02:25:51.750 Daffodil Tyminski: mildred yeah yeah yeah. 1266 02:25:52.950 --> 02:25:53.070 Charles Rosin: yeah. 1267 02:25:53.130 --> 02:25:53.880 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah mildred. 1268 02:25:54.330 --> 02:25:58.440 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm actually in that includes will beach, you know we'll have we can. 1269 02:25:59.700 --> 02:26:03.930 Daffodil Tyminski: beach, then the silver triangles pretty well defined right because you've got. 1270 02:26:03.930 --> 02:26:05.010 Charles Rosin: A good Harvard. 1271 02:26:06.090 --> 02:26:06.480 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah. 1272 02:26:08.430 --> 02:26:10.740 Daffodil Tyminski: So those neighborhoods are easy to define. 1273 02:26:12.270 --> 02:26:16.260 reta moser: Washington south of Venice boulevard I think they're very easily defined. 1274 02:26:16.800 --> 02:26:23.670 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah and then going a little bit further east, on the other side of. 1275 02:26:26.190 --> 02:26:32.880 Daffodil Tyminski: Abbot kinney right you've got Presidents row which is very well defined between advocating Venice Washington and Lincoln. 1276 02:26:34.230 --> 02:26:34.590 reta moser: yep. 1277 02:26:36.240 --> 02:26:42.420 Daffodil Tyminski: So that's fine on the mill woodside that's pretty well defined between. 1278 02:26:45.990 --> 02:26:46.950 Daffodil Tyminski: Abbot kinney. 1279 02:26:48.060 --> 02:26:50.130 Daffodil Tyminski: California Washington Lincoln. 1280 02:26:52.440 --> 02:26:52.920 Daffodil Tyminski: Right. 1281 02:26:54.750 --> 02:27:01.410 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah um oakwood is pretty well defined between Abbot kinney main. 1282 02:27:02.460 --> 02:27:03.570 Daffodil Tyminski: California. 1283 02:27:05.370 --> 02:27:08.340 Daffodil Tyminski: Washington and rose right. 1284 02:27:13.380 --> 02:27:14.850 Daffodil Tyminski: Start writing this down as we. 1285 02:27:21.960 --> 02:27:25.830 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm going because cj is going to be coming product. 1286 02:27:26.280 --> 02:27:27.990 reta moser: Oh definitely yeah we. 1287 02:27:28.230 --> 02:27:32.550 Daffodil Tyminski: Know row is pretty easy to define because it's just north of bros. 1288 02:27:34.170 --> 02:27:38.820 Daffodil Tyminski: East Venice is easy, it leaves the only patch really for any kind of definition. 1289 02:27:40.110 --> 02:27:53.580 Daffodil Tyminski: Is the beach streets North and beach street south, and I would say beach streets north is going to be from whatever's left at the bottom available know what an oak wood from Venice boulevard north. 1290 02:27:54.990 --> 02:27:55.770 Daffodil Tyminski: And then from. 1291 02:27:57.570 --> 02:28:01.440 Daffodil Tyminski: Venice boulevard south or Windward I would say when we're not Venice boulevard. 1292 02:28:03.690 --> 02:28:04.620 Daffodil Tyminski: Does that make sense. 1293 02:28:05.130 --> 02:28:05.640 Darryl DuFay: Yes. 1294 02:28:06.150 --> 02:28:09.630 Daffodil Tyminski: Well yeah I mean it actually splits up i'm looking at the map now splits up really well. 1295 02:28:10.740 --> 02:28:13.680 Darryl DuFay: Darrell here would you describe, then. 1296 02:28:15.420 --> 02:28:21.450 Darryl DuFay: The north east, south and west what you're talking about edit adding to the canals. 1297 02:28:22.860 --> 02:28:31.620 Daffodil Tyminski: north east, south and west I think they are already part of it, so the canals would go on Venice boulevard on one side Pacific, on the other. 1298 02:28:34.110 --> 02:28:37.170 Daffodil Tyminski: or strong so, however, you tell me what you prefer. 1299 02:28:38.400 --> 02:28:40.080 Darryl DuFay: strong's I would prefer. 1300 02:28:40.800 --> 02:28:48.660 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so strong that sort of makes sense and the other one can be the beach area strong's to Venice. 1301 02:28:49.980 --> 02:28:50.340 Darryl DuFay: Right. 1302 02:28:50.400 --> 02:28:52.980 Daffodil Tyminski: To mildred. 1303 02:28:54.360 --> 02:28:54.780 reta moser: No. 1304 02:28:55.380 --> 02:28:55.950 No. 1305 02:28:58.170 --> 02:28:59.280 Daffodil Tyminski: Or to ocean sorry. 1306 02:28:59.370 --> 02:29:01.470 Darryl DuFay: Joe ocean okay it's fine. 1307 02:29:01.770 --> 02:29:03.900 Daffodil Tyminski: To Ocean to Washington. 1308 02:29:04.650 --> 02:29:14.880 Darryl DuFay: Okay, I know so, then we would be including that we haven't before the the larger group that that's south of us. 1309 02:29:15.330 --> 02:29:17.220 Daffodil Tyminski: Right oh it's sanborn del. 1310 02:29:17.220 --> 02:29:20.520 Darryl DuFay: clued up right now yeah yeah okay. 1311 02:29:21.870 --> 02:29:22.380 Daffodil Tyminski: um. 1312 02:29:22.740 --> 02:29:31.680 Darryl DuFay: You know I think you know I think that's fair because you having been through this, as I said so long that makes sense okay. 1313 02:29:32.220 --> 02:29:32.640 reta moser: Good. 1314 02:29:33.000 --> 02:29:33.990 Daffodil Tyminski: good night yeah. 1315 02:29:34.560 --> 02:29:35.430 reta moser: let's go with it. 1316 02:29:36.450 --> 02:29:37.290 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so. 1317 02:29:38.220 --> 02:29:43.170 Darryl DuFay: Everybody i'll just save anybody it's a question I say everybody had to give a little bit. 1318 02:29:45.180 --> 02:29:57.720 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah if now we reorganize this way a little bit we add a couple people if you find that oh i've got this neighbor who's in this weird pocket that they feel like they're always getting shut out, I mean we can have someone else on the committee. 1319 02:29:58.470 --> 02:29:59.430 Daffodil Tyminski: Sure right. 1320 02:29:59.880 --> 02:30:01.260 Daffodil Tyminski: Sure um. 1321 02:30:03.690 --> 02:30:07.770 reta moser: let's not pin it down too much, but let's kind of yeah I agree. 1322 02:30:08.100 --> 02:30:17.070 Daffodil Tyminski: Right, so the only one, so all those definitions work, the last thing i'll say just so we can all sign off on locations and then i'll just put the specific neighborhoods in the motion. 1323 02:30:17.670 --> 02:30:25.710 Daffodil Tyminski: Good i'm a the north beach and South beach, I think it would make sense, looking at the map to have when would be the divider. 1324 02:30:25.950 --> 02:30:27.600 reta moser: Yes, exactly. 1325 02:30:27.720 --> 02:30:28.050 Totally. 1326 02:30:29.220 --> 02:30:39.690 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah it would go Windward to Capri oh to Westminster down Abbot kinney into main and then North everything west of that. 1327 02:30:39.780 --> 02:30:42.120 Darryl DuFay: When you start describing knows. 1328 02:30:43.170 --> 02:30:43.530 Daffodil Tyminski: yep. 1329 02:30:43.650 --> 02:30:49.200 Darryl DuFay: describe what they're not one word is split down the middle, or is it one side and the other. 1330 02:30:49.620 --> 02:30:51.120 Daffodil Tyminski: I would split it down the middle. 1331 02:30:51.630 --> 02:30:53.340 Darryl DuFay: Okay, fine. 1332 02:30:54.630 --> 02:31:07.230 Daffodil Tyminski: If that you know, because you know what again getting back to the Abbot kinney point I really met with a bunch of advocate people and the merchants association trying to get that to be its own unique area and they had no interest in it, they just don't care. 1333 02:31:07.890 --> 02:31:12.600 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay um and then, when word i'm. 1334 02:31:13.050 --> 02:31:17.760 Daffodil Tyminski: to Washington South would be Windward to cabrio. 1335 02:31:18.780 --> 02:31:24.780 Daffodil Tyminski: To Venice boulevard so that little pocket in their back down to Pacific. 1336 02:31:26.130 --> 02:31:28.500 Daffodil Tyminski: And then up to Washington everything West. 1337 02:31:29.700 --> 02:31:33.720 Daffodil Tyminski: So those two neighborhoods are going to have a little pop out right when you get around Windward have a. 1338 02:31:33.720 --> 02:31:36.840 Darryl DuFay: couple er and right now we're in the tool. 1339 02:31:36.870 --> 02:31:47.430 Darryl DuFay: jurisdiction areas, so if that's Okay, because North and South, takes care of it and that just pure dual jurisdiction area. 1340 02:31:48.540 --> 02:31:58.710 Darryl DuFay: It is usually at Pacific or speedway and it just moves over to take care of the canals it just includes it that's because that's fine everything's fine. 1341 02:31:58.860 --> 02:32:06.630 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so long as you're happy with that so, and in fact we'll we'll make this definition, up to strong's and have strong's be the divider. 1342 02:32:08.100 --> 02:32:11.520 Daffodil Tyminski: So you'll go to well unless you want both sides of the street of strong's. 1343 02:32:11.580 --> 02:32:12.330 Darryl DuFay: No, I don't. 1344 02:32:13.020 --> 02:32:16.200 Darryl DuFay: I write down I want right now I. 1345 02:32:19.080 --> 02:32:22.920 reta moser: know one side is strong's is only one one building. 1346 02:32:25.320 --> 02:32:29.970 Daffodil Tyminski: Well, looking at the map, it looks like there's one side of strong's that goes along grand Canal. 1347 02:32:30.060 --> 02:32:31.860 Daffodil Tyminski: And then the other side of strong's backs up the. 1348 02:32:31.860 --> 02:32:34.530 reta moser: Pacific it doesn't it's one building. 1349 02:32:34.650 --> 02:32:45.780 Darryl DuFay: On Pacific so it's a strong strong strong drive is a is is one boundary, the other is grand canal and people could have. 1350 02:32:46.950 --> 02:32:51.390 Darryl DuFay: Different addresses whether they decide to use strong strive, the Grand Canal. 1351 02:32:51.420 --> 02:32:51.840 Darryl DuFay: Right. 1352 02:32:52.050 --> 02:33:00.810 Daffodil Tyminski: it's not what i'm saying is let's make the neighbor divider down strong's because my sense that the people that live on the canal are facing very different issues and the people living on Pacific. 1353 02:33:01.080 --> 02:33:02.130 Darryl DuFay: Good right yes. 1354 02:33:02.190 --> 02:33:02.940 Daffodil Tyminski: That makes sense. 1355 02:33:03.570 --> 02:33:04.800 Darryl DuFay: makes a lot of sense, yes. 1356 02:33:04.860 --> 02:33:12.780 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, all right um Okay, I will I will scribe this out in the text of the emotion, but. 1357 02:33:13.350 --> 02:33:15.240 Daffodil Tyminski: You know let's vote on what we presented. 1358 02:33:16.650 --> 02:33:17.010 Daffodil Tyminski: and 1359 02:33:19.170 --> 02:33:28.200 Daffodil Tyminski: And then we'll make a run at it and see if anyone is interested in making this change it, we just because we say this doesn't mean it will happen, but yeah you know, obviously. 1360 02:33:28.650 --> 02:33:33.270 Daffodil Tyminski: This was way longer than I thought it would because people had much stronger opinions about it than I had realized so. 1361 02:33:33.630 --> 02:33:36.030 reta moser: Well done a john this one. 1362 02:33:36.540 --> 02:33:39.030 reta moser: Sorry, I said we've done a good job on it. 1363 02:33:39.450 --> 02:33:45.450 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, good good great okay so let's take a vote on the motion. 1364 02:33:46.560 --> 02:33:49.890 Daffodil Tyminski: To someone to see so who's here i'm Rita and Yolanda. 1365 02:33:50.100 --> 02:33:52.680 Daffodil Tyminski: Here yeah I mean, how do you vote. 1366 02:33:53.010 --> 02:33:54.840 reta moser: Yes, yes, absolutely. 1367 02:33:55.380 --> 02:33:59.550 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay i'm JEREMY are you here, yes yeah Okay, yes. 1368 02:34:02.460 --> 02:34:04.290 Daffodil Tyminski: Sorry just click that Darrell thanks. 1369 02:34:04.320 --> 02:34:05.640 Darryl DuFay: Yes, he comes. 1370 02:34:06.000 --> 02:34:07.110 reta moser: Because she'll be coming buying. 1371 02:34:07.110 --> 02:34:08.730 Daffodil Tyminski: Up okay cassie. 1372 02:34:13.410 --> 02:34:18.810 Daffodil Tyminski: cassie is on mute here, the last thing on the agenda, and I will vote yes. 1373 02:34:20.490 --> 02:34:25.170 Daffodil Tyminski: Sergio are you here, yes, yes Okay, yes. 1374 02:34:26.280 --> 02:34:26.910 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, thanks. 1375 02:34:27.030 --> 02:34:28.860 Cassie B: Yes, sorry it was on mute. 1376 02:34:29.160 --> 02:34:30.240 Daffodil Tyminski: Oh great hey Kathy. 1377 02:34:30.570 --> 02:34:32.760 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, yes, and then chuck. 1378 02:34:39.360 --> 02:34:45.000 Daffodil Tyminski: chuck are you there I can just raise your hand if you say I can't hear you you're muted. 1379 02:34:46.680 --> 02:34:47.130 Charles Rosin: Yes. 1380 02:34:47.520 --> 02:34:51.120 Daffodil Tyminski: A reluctant yes okay well we'll keep working on this issue, I understand. 1381 02:34:51.120 --> 02:34:52.530 Charles Rosin: you're okay. 1382 02:34:53.340 --> 02:34:54.630 Daffodil Tyminski: um I think that's everyone. 1383 02:34:55.260 --> 02:34:58.590 Daffodil Tyminski: garbage all right great so. 1384 02:34:59.430 --> 02:35:00.270 Daffodil Tyminski: There was one. 1385 02:35:01.020 --> 02:35:01.710 Daffodil Tyminski: Sorry go ahead. 1386 02:35:02.100 --> 02:35:05.790 Darryl DuFay: So I want to thank you for after 25 years, thank you. 1387 02:35:07.410 --> 02:35:14.220 reta moser: Yes, we did belong in Greece census, the specific plan and it's never ever all those three words. 1388 02:35:14.970 --> 02:35:20.010 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, good well we'll see how it goes look i'm sure it's gonna get objected to at the meeting but. 1389 02:35:21.270 --> 02:35:21.750 reta moser: Walt. 1390 02:35:22.260 --> 02:35:22.680 Walt. 1391 02:35:24.060 --> 02:35:32.190 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay anything else we I think there was nothing else on the agenda, unless anyone had announcements, but we can certainly lived up next month because we went way over today. 1392 02:35:32.490 --> 02:35:34.710 reta moser: yeah okay goodbye. 1393 02:35:34.980 --> 02:35:35.310 Daffodil Tyminski: All right. 1394 02:35:36.450 --> 02:35:37.680 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you all very much it's. 1395 02:35:37.680 --> 02:35:37.980 Fine. 1396 02:35:39.510 --> 02:35:40.500 Daffodil Tyminski: All right, bye guys.