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jim murez: Oh, I can hear the outside noise.

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Daffodil Tyminski: hi there that's probably me i'll put you on mute.

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jim murez: No, no that's okay it's Okay, let me i'm trying to promote people, let me promote you so you can help.

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jim murez: i've tried alley three times already.

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Daffodil Tyminski: she's not I just tried alley to.

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jim murez: yeah she doesn't seem to be accepting.

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Daffodil Tyminski: There, she is she got it.

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jim murez: Oh good.

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Alley Bean: i'm here.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, my alley.

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jim murez: What do we have nine so far, we need two more.

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Daffodil Tyminski: We have nine.

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jim murez: Early snow.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And we have.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Through now is here, we have Robert pulling miles here with his hand raised.

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jim murez: Who, that is, a lot of talk Robert who's at.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Robert is running for office in State Assembly.

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jim murez: Oh alright i'm going to lower his hand back down.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah Robert you are able to talk if you'd like I don't.

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jim murez: Well, no, wait let's wait until public comment.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so.

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Daffodil Tyminski: So, Jim i'm pretty sure i'm pretty sure that i'm Macau.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Sema and Melissa won't be here.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I think they're all traveling separately but um.

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jim murez: Do you don't get a quorum we don't get to.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah.

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Daffodil Tyminski: didn't have maybe we know if we're gonna have.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Enough folks.

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jim murez: It looked like we were but I mean you know, I guess, some people didn't realize that there was a meeting, even though it was sent out by email and posted on the site and nc support send it out so.

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jim murez: I don't know.

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jim murez: Good question.

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jim murez: Yes, janine.

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jim murez: yeah I see you but you're going to have to wait and we'll call on you when we get into the item you're listed as a as an attendee at this point.

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jim murez: yeah you're here okay.

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Alley Bean: is my understanding, we don't get a quorum we don't get the funding.

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jim murez: that's correct.

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Alley Bean: any reason why it was so last minute just curious because I found out about it late somebody told me to log on so.

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jim murez: It was only announced after the loud, it was only announced at the last board meeting.

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jim murez: that the funding was available.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I think the mayor's office didn't make it available sooner.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I gotcha we didn't know.

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jim murez: We had no choice, and so it was it was announced that we would be having this meeting, but it, you know we it was like wait until everybody had a chance to.

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jim murez: submit their applications, a couple people said they were going to, and then they didn't end up sending them in there only one at one person ended up getting it in so.

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Alley Bean: I have.

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jim murez: A nice day I waited until the last minute to.

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jim murez: Post it so everybody would have an opportunity to.

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Alley Bean: I just got a text from Jim rob saying that he's having cell phone range problems but he's trying to get on.

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jim murez: Okay, great so as soon as he gets on, we would have enough.

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CJ Cole: capital to let you know that I have a prior commitment at 630.

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jim murez: yeah we should we should be done by that.

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CJ Cole: I mean, but if you get into a bunch of public.

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CJ Cole: comment before.

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jim murez: we're going to limit them to one minute.

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CJ Cole: Whatever.

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jim murez: And you think seamless traveling to.

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vicki halliday: seem as in Boston.

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jim murez: And and Andre.

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Daffodil Tyminski: don't know that i'm not sure.

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jim murez: Who else is still missing stand, he said he was coming.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Oh, we have was klay here.

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jim murez: Oh great so we can start yeah she'd said she was coming to.

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jim murez: Have you promoted her.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I have she's joining us tilly see.

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jim murez: His way.

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Daffodil Tyminski: she's just logged in under a different name.

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lizzie.

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jim murez: lizzie Liz is at you.

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Eliz Clay: I you're sorry it was a different name and I just hit, yes, before I corrected it.

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jim murez: yeah can you correct it real quick, just so the videos right.

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Eliz Clay: I don't know if I can seriously, how do you log it change your login name.

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jim murez: let's see I think I can do it.

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Jason Sugars: You can just click on the three dots on your phone the video thing when you hover over there, can you see the mute and in the three dots on the right, you can hit the three dots and you should be able to change your name.

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Eliz Clay: webinar settings background.

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Daffodil Tyminski: says now Liz clay that's fine.

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Eliz Clay: I will do.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah that'll work.

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jim murez: Okay, so um that's enough to have a quarter, we have a.

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Eliz Clay: quorum.

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jim murez: let's go ahead and and and get this show on the road.

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jim murez: i'm going to share my screen.

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jim murez: Time now is.

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jim murez: called the meeting to order.

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jim murez: So a.

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jim murez: And let's take roll James mirror as i'm here daffodil.

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jim murez: daffodil speak.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'm here okay.

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jim murez: Melissa Andre vicki.

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jim murez: Here Bruno.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Here i'm traces trying to get in by the way.

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jim murez: NICO gym.

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jim murez: Okay, great Jim rob.

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Alley Bean: He said he needs the link where can you get the link.

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Alley Bean: On the.

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jim murez: website it's on the dnc website where it always is Jason.

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Jason Sugars: Yes, Sir i'm here.

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jim murez: awesome alley.

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here.

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robertthibodeau: copy paste it.

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Chi.

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jim murez: Mike bravo.

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jim murez: Mike.

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jim murez: soledad.

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jim murez: cj.

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jim murez: Am I locked up or does nobody hear me.

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Daffodil Tyminski: You can see case here till she just needs to.

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jim murez: People need to unmute and respond.

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jim murez: Okay, it was that you cj.

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jim murez: yeah okay all over.

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Oliver Fries: Your.

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jim murez: Thank you Elizabeth.

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Eliz Clay: Here, Mr Jim rob it's in the agenda, the link.

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jim murez: Okay, Robert tiptoe.

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robertthibodeau: player and I was here, and I was gonna say the same thing copy paste it off the agenda Jim.

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robertthibodeau: Sorry, Jim rob copy paste it off the agenda.

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yeah yeah.

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jim murez: Clark.

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Clark Brown: here.

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jim murez: And there's our corner mchale Am I missing anybody somebody said Andre was getting on.

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Andrea Boccaletti: i'm here.

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jim murez: Great Thank you, Sir anybody else make it.

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Daffodil Tyminski: So yeah, not that I can say.

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jim murez: daffodil you will let me know if anybody else shows up.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I will keep an eye on.

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jim murez: Ex parte communication I had conversations with Isabel and with the mayor's rap.

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jim murez: about the application process, other than that I don't think i've had any conversations I also actually I went I went and looked at the site one day as well, and I think I met Noel over there and.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Just to go.

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jim murez: anybody else.

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jim murez: Okay, no expert a communications OK, so now let's open public comment announcements of items, not on the agenda, everybody gets one minute daffodil you want to see who wants to talk and I will pull up the time clock.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, great we've got one hand up Robert pulling miles, if anyone else wants to put your hand up now i'm.

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Daffodil Tyminski: and Robert Poland miles you just took your hand okay sorry go ahead, Robert.

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Robert Pullen-Miles: Good evening everyone, this is Robert pulling miles.

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Robert Pullen-Miles: i'm a candidate for State Assembly, I just want to say hello to everyone, I know you got a packed agenda and not a lot of time to do it, so I just want to offer on.

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Robert Pullen-Miles: My website for those who don't know me, and I would like to get the opportunity to learn about all the issues that are unique to.

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Robert Pullen-Miles: To Venice i'm running for the State Assembly for the 62nd in the 61st assembly district my own website is WW dot Robert.

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Robert Pullen-Miles: pullin miles COM I would love the opportunity to meet.

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Robert Pullen-Miles: Everyone individually, so I can just to get to know a little bit about your unique issues, so I won't hold you for long and run for State Assembly i'm Robert pulling miles and as always i'm pulling for you Thank you so much, Mr Chairman and board members.

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jim murez: Thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Lisa redmond has their hand raised, and we have no one else so after Lisa will close public comment.

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jim murez: Oh great okay.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead Lisa.

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Lisa Redmond: yeah I just it's just interesting that this particular administration is going to go down known for last minute special.

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Lisa Redmond: 24 hour notice meetings I think it's highly unfortunate that so much happens at the very last minute that everyone's schedule is interrupted.

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Lisa Redmond: I think I find it hard to believe that things aren't known ahead of time I think there's some laziness are not paying attention, this is something that every committee could be paying attention to looking for CIS is looking for fun granting and all of that it's just.

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Daffodil Tyminski: it's just a disruption, not only to stakeholders.

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Lisa Redmond: But i'm sure to the board are not happy about the constant.

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Lisa Redmond: Need for last minute time for their schedules that's all.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay So what about Jim we will close public comment.

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jim murez: Okay, thank you um.

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jim murez: let's go back to our agenda.

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jim murez: Closed public comment.

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jim murez: And now we have the grant application.

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jim murez: Does somebody want to make the motion, please.

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Daffodil Tyminski: It staff i'll do it.

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jim murez: Okay.

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Daffodil Tyminski: um the motion is.

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jim murez: who's who's second thing, let me get a second first.

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Jason Sugars: Second Jason sugars.

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jim murez: Okay Jason Thank you very much.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Jason.

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jim murez: Okay, definitely want to go ahead, just read the motion and then we'll let janine pain, who was the person who submitted it.

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jim murez: come in and tell us anything that we want to know about it.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, the dnc Board of officers approves they propose beautify la grant application as presented to be submitted to the Los Angeles city department of public works and other city offices as required.

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jim murez: Okay um.

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jim murez: Now, do you see janine pain.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I do.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And janine I can.

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jim murez: promote her and.

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jim murez: We can, through this.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Gene i'm promoting you to be a panelist right now.

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Daffodil Tyminski: All right, you should be there.

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jim murez: yeah I think I can probably bring up the application.

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jim murez: So here's the application.

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jim murez: So it's 20 $500 that we're asking the mayor's office for and it's all written out here it's described.

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jim murez: And that's it and then, if I go back to.

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jim murez: The agenda, I go back to the agenda, I can open these photos so people can see where we're talking about.

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jim murez: Do you need if you want to explain any of this while i'm going through it, by all means.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And this is.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Over by air one right Jen.

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jim murez: yeah this is tabor court, this is in the you know it's what they call the alley next to.

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jim murez: To like between between the lemonade building and and erewash.

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jim murez: It connects between.

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jim murez: What is that calendar palms and and, but I just missed one palms and.

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jim murez: yeah they're here that's.

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jim murez: And Venice boulevard so the what you're looking at here, I believe, would be the northern end this would be at the palms end, as you enter the lot, which is a one way parking lot.

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jim murez: And the last one down here.

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jim murez: And this is the area in here that they wanted to landscape, they want it, they basically want to bring the plants back, these are the trees over here that have been improperly trimmed.

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jim murez: They want to properly trim them so again, these are the various photos this area in here would all be planted with natives again.

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jim murez: You can see that the tree that's here is pretty much dead, they want to you know redo all of that this is a tree over here that was improperly pruned into a Bush and they want to correct that obviously the mattress is probably gone by now, but if not, it needs to be.

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robertthibodeau: don't bet on it.

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jim murez: yeah I think it actually has been so you can see that you know the landscaping on the ground is all been has all died so that's basically what it says.

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jim murez: That they want to do.

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jim murez: And the chamber of commerce has agreed to help with the long term, maintenance, so I guess that's where the long term funding will come from So did we have.

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jim murez: Any other explanation that I needed to describe janine are you there.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Just so you know gym to gym rob is here.

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Daffodil Tyminski: we'll try to get them in as panelists.

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jim murez: And then let's take public comment.

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Daffodil Tyminski: gym for me to get you and you're going to have to agree to be promoted to a panelist.

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Daffodil Tyminski: All right, let's start with public come in, Robert why don't you go ahead first.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'm.

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Jim Robb: rob is here, by the way.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay right TIM.

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jim murez: Go.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Elizabeth right why don't why don't you go next.

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jim murez: Well, no, we need public comment.

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Daffodil Tyminski: This is public comment.

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jim murez: Oh, oh Elizabeth right you're sorry my bad my bad I thought you were saying Elizabeth Clare I am getting mixed up okay go ahead.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead of us okay.

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Elizabeth Wright: There is an issue with this motion, the application.

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Elizabeth Wright: says that Venice neighborhood Council is going to be responsible for ongoing maintenance.

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Elizabeth Wright: And the Board was never asked to do that.

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Elizabeth Wright: So it's too late to ask the board.

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Elizabeth Wright: Because of the brown act and it's too late to change the change the application.

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Elizabeth Wright: You cannot catch this motion.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay Lisa why don't you go ahead next.

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Elizabeth Wright: It is an ad hoc committee.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Oh sorry Liz I thought you were done holidays.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Are you done Liz.

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Elizabeth Wright: I think now I am.

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Daffodil Tyminski: All right, Lisa why don't you go ahead.

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Lisa Redmond: yeah I absolutely agree with Liz right, I was going to say the same thing and who's to say that going on forward past this next administration who's going to maintain it.

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Lisa Redmond: These are all volunteers there's no guarantee and it's ridiculous On top of that, and.

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Lisa Redmond: Again i'm still very disappointed on special meetings for last minute things that people could have paid attention to ahead of time.

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Lisa Redmond: And if people care that much about an alley named for Mr tabor then they would be creating motions to get the city to pass make seventh avenue named after Mr tabor.

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Lisa Redmond: Not relegated to a piece that important of a person that we're going to name an alley after him that's absolutely wrong for the city in its history and for our black heritage in Venice.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay Steve Williams go ahead.

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Steve Williams: Okay, my on.

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Steve Williams: Yes, okay Hello everybody um, I just wanted to check in i'm.

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Steve Williams: i'm a.

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Steve Williams: landscape contractor specializing in native plants, also in infiltrating runoff from heart scapes into.

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Steve Williams: Rain gardens to you know less than water pollution to the ocean and i'm wondering if that has been incorporated into this project, because I think that would be cool since it seems to have a parking lot up against it.

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Steve Williams: Also, I just want to sort of throw it out there, I could maybe help in this project in some way if maybe it's bill wants to contact you know she's already got that lined up.

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Steve Williams: You know, I do have a crew I have all a lot of tools even I can bring down for volunteers, etc, etc, so just throwing it out there, thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: awesome thanks i'm Robert pulling miles I don't know if you still wanted to make a comment on this item or not, but.

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Daffodil Tyminski: If you did this is your shot.

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Robert Pullen-Miles: i'm sorry, can you say that again.

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Daffodil Tyminski: You want to make a comment on this item on the agenda.

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Robert Pullen-Miles: No i'm think i'm okay.

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Daffodil Tyminski: you're good okay great just want to make sure.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Oh, thank you so i'm okay with that we will close public comment Jim.

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jim murez: Okay, great.

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jim murez: i'm.

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Robert Pullen-Miles: Fine i'm okay.

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jim murez: Thank you.

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jim murez: Okay, so now let's let's.

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jim murez: change this up a little bit does the anybody on the committee have.

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jim murez: Anything that they would like to say.

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jim murez: Jason go ahead.

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Jason Sugars: i'm just i'm just I know we don't directly respond, but I am curious to the points made into public comment regarding the the whether or not the wording is correct or if we are taking on the responsibility for the board for the Council.

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Jason Sugars: take care of this going forward.

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jim murez: yeah let's look at it again it's an interesting question, I think that the entire application was posted in the link, as shown here in this reference, it was posted as well.

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jim murez: The Board is approving the proposed beautification grant application well that's what this thing is this whole motion is the approval of.

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jim murez: the grant application and this documents it so as far as what the details of it are we certainly have the right to approve what was posted, this is what was posted and it describes what it is.

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jim murez: Yes, it is saying that the harbor committee is going to to track and record the planting and maintenance of the trees and plants in the neighborhood.

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jim murez: it's true it's a volunteer group i'm not particularly worried about it, it doesn't have any financial liability to the dnc.

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jim murez: If we don't do it and I guess that would be up to the mayor's office they certainly know that no neighborhood Council has longer than a two year.

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jim murez: life cycle, and this is halfway through the life cycle, I think that the 20 $500 is an insignificant amount of money.

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jim murez: For the mayor's office to be handing out on something like that i'm not particularly worried about it, so there was two questions whether or not the the period of time that it was needing to be maintained.

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jim murez: is going to overlap with perhaps another Council I don't think that's an issue.

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jim murez: And as far as I mean, if anything, would be better than what we have today, and if the mayor has 2500 bucks to spend on it, why not and and, as far as not having it been posted correctly all the information is here.

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jim murez: And I think that that that's the the important issue as far as you know, the motion is to approve this grant application and it's described here, it says application right here and playing letters it's I don't think there's any issues with that does that answer you Jason.

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Janin Paine: I have a lot of information, I could shed some light I just don't know.

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jim murez: When I can hang hang on one second you.

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Janin Paine: Next time okay.

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jim murez: Jason did that did that get did they get your your question answered.

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Jason Sugars: yeah I was just curious, I know that we don't respond directly, but I did want to get some clarity, thank you.

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jim murez: yeah, no, no, I think I think it was a good point that was raised, and I think it's been it's been properly answer.

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Alley Bean: I have another question about.

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jim murez: That hang on one second.

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jim murez: Andre was before you go ahead Andre.

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Alley Bean: same question now.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Oh yeah I had the same questions as Jason so i'm glad you clarified a little bit of that.

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Andrea Boccaletti: And I think.

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Andrea Boccaletti: it's a wonderful idea if Members in the Community, want to make something nicer in that area and also want to you know volunteers want to continue maintaining the site.

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Andrea Boccaletti: i'm really tired of all the negativity that when people want to do good in the Community there's always people on the call that say it's terrible it's wrong, I mean come on enough of this, so I think it's a wonderful idea, thank you for the people that that are taking this initiative.

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jim murez: yeah great Thank you i'm tell you go ahead.

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Alley Bean: Oh, I.

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Alley Bean: know I mean I don't think Elizabeth big.

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Alley Bean: Negative Andre I think I think she was just worried that we might be stuck with the.

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Alley Bean: You know the budget of having to pay for it, but as I look at it, Jim I just you had it up there for a minute, but then i'm now looking at it myself.

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Alley Bean: It says, our volunteer group the Venice arbor committee working with the Venice chamber of commerce will maintain the project so as the Venice Chamber of Commerce agreed to maintain it financially that that would answer liz's question that doesn't put any onus on us.

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jim murez: Well nothing's putting the onus on us.

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Alley Bean: Well, but it says the Venice Chamber of Commerce, so if they've agreed to maintain it, then that is doubly.

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jim murez: Longer all we're saying is we approve of what's being proposed we're not saying that we're going to be responsible for maintaining it.

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Alley Bean: Okay Liz seem to indicate that somewhere in this language.

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Alley Bean: We close because.

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jim murez: The arbor committee the arbor committees been going along time they were going before this fancy board and they have I mean you know, this is just an ongoing Community effort that they're applying and the dnc is saying that we're in support of what they're doing.

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Alley Bean: Okay, and then my second question is an answer to Lisa redmond is this hasn't this alley already been called the Irving tabor court or.

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jim murez: Is I don't know that they call it Irving tabor court I think they call it tabor court.

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Alley Bean: tape record but it's already that anyway.

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jim murez: it's been named that, for I believe 40 years.

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jim murez: I mean it goes back way way way back in history, it was he was dirty.

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jim murez: railroad tracks it's.

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jim murez: there's nothing new about.

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jim murez: That it's just wanted to make sure.

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jim murez: People have comments they want to make.

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Alley Bean: Right and I just wanted to make sure.

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jim murez: yeah okay cj go ahead holly put your hand down, please.

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Alley Bean: i'm trying to go back to zoom.

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CJ Cole: The only thing I want to say i'm i'm in favor of this that's not a problem canal association did a similar thing when they took grant money to landscape, the strip at 25th that goes from strong drive to Pacific.

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CJ Cole: Sorry call we are stuck with it now.

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CJ Cole: So I mean it, it is you know I mean those people are all long gone, but yet we as an association still have to maintain it, and that includes things like insurance and whatever so I mean we do really need to consider that.

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jim murez: Well there's this, this is a city parking lot, I mean the city's liable for whatever goes on over words we're not taking on any new liability when they converted that walkway you're talking about that was a dirt parcel that the city happened to own and they.

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jim murez: created a walkway through it.

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jim murez: It was a completely different set of circumstances the city didn't create the walkway.

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jim murez: Okay um, let me just mention one other thing because there was a question that one of the comments in the public made.

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jim murez: The the current parking lot was designed with best management practices in mind the surface of the parking lot is actually permeable concrete it's it's a.

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jim murez: sand and P grab excuse me know sand concrete and pea gravel under the parking spaces, so all of the water already goes back into the groundwater table the the planting areas.

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jim murez: Take the runoff from the rooftops next door and so any areas that are left open to the dirt or just an area where the water can go in.

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jim murez: And yeah i'm sure that we need to get you in touch with whatever your name was I don't recall, but if you could reach out to us after the meeting I would be happy to forward your contact information to Isabel who's our arbor committee chair and and put you guys in touch.

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jim murez: I don't see any other hands up janine did you have something you wanted to add that we leave something out that was.

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Daffodil Tyminski: You need to unmute yourself janine and Jim I would give her a shot to be able to present what what she's doing.

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jim murez: Obviously not yet absolutely.

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Janin Paine: yeah so the tape record has been named that it is, it was that the one thing I want to point out that hasn't really been covered, is that the.

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Janin Paine: d O T already maintains the property they start, I mean it's their responsibility, they just did kind of do a mind blowing over prune and they're just not doing it correctly, but that's it's not going to be on our on the Chamber, I mean on the.

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Janin Paine: neighborhood Council at all to maintain it yo the Chamber.

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Janin Paine: Just.

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jim murez: Okay yeah.

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Janin Paine: And there are parts that are growing well but there's big gaps.

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Janin Paine: So and it's a it's an opportunity to.

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Janin Paine: showcase native California plants, some of them only from Catalina island and some of them just immediately right here and that's a it's an opportunity beautify the area and it's very traveled.

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Janin Paine: Internationally traveled Ali actually.

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jim murez: yeah that everyone helps them right.

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Janin Paine: yeah well that's next Abbot kinney and yeah.

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jim murez: Okay, great um no other public comment at this point, no other can committee comment cj you saw your hand up is that by accident.

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jim murez: Okay let's move back to our agenda where's my screen share.

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jim murez: And then we can go ahead and take a vote be out here by 630.

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jim murez: Okay.

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jim murez: Go ahead and call for the vote.

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jim murez: and

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jim murez: Jim rob showed upgrades.

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jim murez: Okay yeah or am I missing anybody on there there's anybody else come in, I don't think so.

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jim murez: Okay let's let's go ahead and take a boat let's start with Jim rob his phone's about to go Jim Jim, how do you vote.

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jim murez: Yes, thank you.

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jim murez: don't leave the meeting just yet let's get through this daffodil, how do you vote.

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jim murez: Thank you i'm Andrea, how do you vote.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Right.

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vicki halliday: vicki yes.

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jim murez: or no.

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jim murez: Jason.

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jim murez: Yes, thank you alley.

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jim murez: Yes, cj.

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jim murez: gotta unmute cj.

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CJ Cole: Yes.

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jim murez: Thank you Oliver.

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Oliver Fries: Yes.

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jim murez: Elizabeth.

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jim murez: Yes, Robert.

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robertthibodeau: Yes, thank you.

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Clark Brown: Clark yes.

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jim murez: And I will vote yes, the motion carries Thank you all let's.

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jim murez: oops that was by accident that doesn't know that'll go away later um I wanted to click on the other, button or the other button there it is.

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robertthibodeau: Jim thanks for getting this together so quickly, we appreciate it.

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jim murez: yeah you're very welcome Robert, thank you for attending so let's adjourn the meeting the time now is 631 good night everyone we do.

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jim murez: appreciate you coming.

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jim murez: and good luck.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah good luck today, and thanks a lot.

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jim murez: Let me just remind everybody that the arbor Committee meets every Saturday.

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jim murez: And they do these kinds of planting and and landscaping things all over the Community, and if you follow our calendar you'll see where they're going next.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Thank you.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Have a committed.

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jim murez: arbor committee yes.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah thanks guys.

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vicki halliday: Thank you, everybody.

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Alley Bean: good night, thank you.