WEBVTT 1 00:01:15.180 --> 00:01:21.420 Michael Jensen: i'm trying to load, the thing to record minutes, and this is what happens when I load the. 2 00:01:22.770 --> 00:01:23.130 james murez: host. 3 00:01:23.760 --> 00:01:25.230 Michael Jensen: I think so. 4 00:01:26.400 --> 00:01:27.240 james murez: Looking on the. 5 00:01:29.940 --> 00:01:32.010 Michael Jensen: Participants on the panelists yeah. 6 00:01:32.640 --> 00:01:34.230 james murez: Okay, does it say host next to it. 7 00:01:36.690 --> 00:01:37.020 james murez: The next. 8 00:01:37.050 --> 00:01:39.360 Michael Jensen: Your name most yes, it does. 9 00:01:40.050 --> 00:01:46.830 james murez: Okay, so now the only other thing you need to know is down at the bottom of the screen, where it says share there's an up arrow next to it. 10 00:01:47.490 --> 00:01:47.760 Michael Jensen: yep. 11 00:01:47.970 --> 00:01:56.280 james murez: You need to you need to click on the up arrow and then select let everyone share so that way other people can share their screen to thing. 12 00:01:57.270 --> 00:01:57.570 done. 13 00:01:58.830 --> 00:02:01.620 james murez: Okay, and i'm going to sign off if you have problems I guess. 14 00:02:01.650 --> 00:02:04.800 Michael Jensen: Well, hold on I have an issue I have a question with. 15 00:02:04.890 --> 00:02:05.430 james murez: eddie. 16 00:02:05.520 --> 00:02:06.660 Michael Jensen: And let me share the. 17 00:02:07.710 --> 00:02:09.300 Michael Jensen: Let me share the screen here. 18 00:02:11.700 --> 00:02:12.570 james murez: i'll be able to see it. 19 00:02:13.650 --> 00:02:17.310 Michael Jensen: Well, when I load when I load the the json. 20 00:02:17.340 --> 00:02:23.040 james murez: files record, I can see you, but I have to hold the phone up to my ear to be able to hear you so. 21 00:02:23.790 --> 00:02:24.720 Michael Jensen: Oh wait, you know what. 22 00:02:26.850 --> 00:02:27.360 Michael Jensen: I think. 23 00:02:27.420 --> 00:02:28.260 james murez: We are. 24 00:02:29.640 --> 00:02:35.190 Michael Jensen: yeah, this is what happens, so let me well hit it okay so look at this. 25 00:02:38.400 --> 00:02:41.370 Michael Jensen: So when I loaded the json file that the agenda was. 26 00:02:43.020 --> 00:02:46.800 Michael Jensen: This is, and I go to like you know the record minutes thing. 27 00:02:48.300 --> 00:02:52.350 Michael Jensen: And I loaded this, but none of the there's only like. 28 00:02:54.270 --> 00:02:54.660 james murez: It goes from. 29 00:02:56.490 --> 00:02:58.710 james murez: Right, so what happened, you. 30 00:03:00.300 --> 00:03:02.460 james murez: don't use record minutes us. 31 00:03:03.480 --> 00:03:17.490 james murez: Create agenda because everything bug in the early agendas and if we pulled in items from the old agendas that the bug was still in the old agenda and I fixed it in the newer version, so the new items will show up, but not the all the items. 32 00:03:17.940 --> 00:03:18.930 Michael Jensen: So if I knew that. 33 00:03:19.710 --> 00:03:22.890 james murez: If you use create agenda they'll all show. 34 00:03:24.120 --> 00:03:26.820 Michael Jensen: And they all show here, so this is the one I will use. 35 00:03:27.540 --> 00:03:27.840 OK. 36 00:03:29.070 --> 00:03:30.750 Michael Jensen: OK that's it okay. 37 00:03:31.050 --> 00:03:33.450 james murez: And just remember to save the file when you're done. 38 00:03:34.860 --> 00:03:35.610 Michael Jensen: Right. 39 00:03:35.730 --> 00:03:45.990 james murez: Most important, save the file if you're using the record there's a save button, at the very bottom if you're not if you're using the create mode, then you say this, all the way up at the top. 40 00:03:47.400 --> 00:03:47.790 Michael Jensen: OK. 41 00:03:48.600 --> 00:03:50.190 Michael Jensen: OK OK OK. 42 00:03:51.540 --> 00:03:51.900 Michael Jensen: alright. 43 00:03:53.370 --> 00:03:53.640 Michael Jensen: alright. 44 00:03:54.540 --> 00:03:54.780 alright. 45 00:09:37.980 --> 00:09:38.610 lauren siegel: How are you. 46 00:09:39.660 --> 00:09:40.620 Michael Jensen: Not too bad. 47 00:09:42.540 --> 00:09:48.480 lauren siegel: i'm unclear how this agenda is going to work there's are we going through some of the cases or what is the plan. 48 00:09:48.840 --> 00:09:54.180 Michael Jensen: So i'll i'll i'll talk about that there were I had some. 49 00:09:55.200 --> 00:09:58.470 Michael Jensen: probably a combination of user error and. 50 00:09:59.880 --> 00:10:04.350 Michael Jensen: just learning how to program jim's crazy new agenda system. 51 00:10:04.950 --> 00:10:10.740 Michael Jensen: um so i'll talk about that, but there's yeah i'll just i'll wait for there to be a. 52 00:10:14.910 --> 00:10:18.600 Michael Jensen: You know at least a quorum, so we can start this thing. 53 00:10:19.140 --> 00:10:21.000 lauren siegel: Wonderful well congratulations. 54 00:10:22.140 --> 00:10:24.150 Michael Jensen: I don't know no one else wanted to job so i'm. 55 00:10:24.300 --> 00:10:26.940 Michael Jensen: not sure if it's graduations or. 56 00:10:28.350 --> 00:10:29.250 lauren siegel: condolences. 57 00:10:56.850 --> 00:10:57.450 Michael Jensen: how's it going. 58 00:10:58.290 --> 00:10:59.940 Mehrnoosh: Good good, thank you, how are you. 59 00:11:00.840 --> 00:11:05.550 Michael Jensen: i'm not too bad did you end up getting the planning stuff. 60 00:11:07.230 --> 00:11:08.280 Michael Jensen: worked out with Freddie. 61 00:11:09.390 --> 00:11:11.220 Mehrnoosh: nope let me trying to. 62 00:11:11.850 --> 00:11:12.210 Mehrnoosh: Okay. 63 00:11:12.690 --> 00:11:14.340 Mehrnoosh: So do you think. 64 00:11:15.600 --> 00:11:16.050 Mehrnoosh: Yes, oh. 65 00:11:16.500 --> 00:11:19.140 Michael Jensen: I did that just means you can vote on cases. 66 00:11:20.160 --> 00:11:20.640 Mehrnoosh: tonight. 67 00:11:21.120 --> 00:11:21.930 Michael Jensen: Tonight yeah. 68 00:11:22.380 --> 00:11:22.740 Okay. 69 00:11:24.000 --> 00:11:28.140 Michael Jensen: But a bit of the agenda is devoted to discussion anyway. 70 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:33.630 Mehrnoosh: This is something new do right for the planning, one on one. 71 00:11:33.960 --> 00:11:40.890 Michael Jensen: Well, it existed before, but I think because of coven they basically wave that and then. 72 00:11:42.750 --> 00:12:01.560 Michael Jensen: They decided that, as of January one all of the land use committee members had to take it, and the email, I saw from Freddie was dated like February 15 where that notified us, but with the departure of the last chair I don't think anyone was really. 73 00:12:02.580 --> 00:12:11.970 Michael Jensen: Following up but I I did confirm that it was just you and Barry that hadn't taken it and Barry completed his today so. 74 00:12:14.130 --> 00:12:14.940 Michael Jensen: As soon as the. 75 00:12:15.240 --> 00:12:20.700 Michael Jensen: roster at empower la can figure out how to email your credentials, you can take a. 76 00:12:21.750 --> 00:12:22.260 Michael Jensen: tour oh sorry. 77 00:12:23.130 --> 00:12:24.480 Mehrnoosh: on track to take your time. 78 00:12:26.100 --> 00:12:27.600 Mehrnoosh: I mean going around in circles on that. 79 00:12:28.830 --> 00:12:38.370 Michael Jensen: I yeah I have to i've sent I mean I call the empower la number like six times on Monday, and no one picked up the phone. 80 00:12:39.630 --> 00:12:41.160 Michael Jensen: or sorry Tuesday rather. 81 00:12:41.460 --> 00:12:42.390 Michael Jensen: Monday was a holiday. 82 00:12:42.930 --> 00:12:46.890 Mehrnoosh: yeah it's like building department, you can get through anything okay. 83 00:12:48.150 --> 00:12:49.200 Mehrnoosh: i'll try it again. 84 00:12:51.120 --> 00:12:55.950 Mehrnoosh: And then i'll ask for your help if I can't get what was the guy's name again i've anointed it. 85 00:12:56.370 --> 00:12:57.600 Michael Jensen: Friday coupon. 86 00:13:00.750 --> 00:13:07.680 Michael Jensen: But the email you go with the credentials should be from empower la la city.org. 87 00:13:08.040 --> 00:13:10.320 Mehrnoosh: yeah I got ready last name again. 88 00:13:11.580 --> 00:13:18.330 Michael Jensen: hooping dash aims it see up and dash a meds. 89 00:13:20.790 --> 00:13:21.150 Mehrnoosh: Thank you. 90 00:13:23.220 --> 00:13:25.290 Michael Jensen: All right, where is everyone. 91 00:14:02.100 --> 00:14:20.730 lauren siegel: So just a suggestion and it's just us newer people and maybe it's just me, but I have to say that, even though we all did that planning workshop and don't know that it necessarily it was all that insightful or helpful for me, and that was a while ago. 92 00:14:22.500 --> 00:14:24.510 lauren siegel: Do you think that one of our. 93 00:14:25.590 --> 00:14:30.570 lauren siegel: One of the things that we can strive for, is to outline the process. 94 00:14:31.050 --> 00:14:41.580 lauren siegel: Because you know I come up with questions and ask various people, and I still get a lot of well, it depends answers to some very simple questions about the process of getting a CDP. 95 00:14:42.210 --> 00:15:01.920 lauren siegel: So is there a flowchart or anything that's written or outlines all the different things that you need to do to get a CDP and including the vso and that whole process as well, I just feel like there has to be a flow chart somewhere that covers everything that needs to happen. 96 00:15:04.560 --> 00:15:10.350 Michael Jensen: I would like to say that there is, but knowing the city of La probably haven't created that also because. 97 00:15:12.330 --> 00:15:29.550 Michael Jensen: Well yeah I don't know if there if there is something like that, if there isn't I mean that's something we could definitely make at least a rough one, so they understand like you know step one you file your permit airier CDP with planning, then it gets assigned. 98 00:15:29.790 --> 00:15:33.810 Michael Jensen: Then you go, you know, at some point there's a determination, whether it's a vso. 99 00:15:34.200 --> 00:15:34.590 Right. 100 00:15:35.610 --> 00:15:41.400 lauren siegel: All of that because in talking with applicants and with their might people. 101 00:15:41.880 --> 00:15:53.100 lauren siegel: Their representatives there's always questions that you know even they who are the experts don't really have answers for and they asked me and sometimes I can answer it sometimes I can't so. 102 00:15:53.430 --> 00:15:58.260 lauren siegel: It would be so helpful to have a flow chart and when, in the process that you, you know. 103 00:15:58.800 --> 00:16:10.080 lauren siegel: Like what's the long what's a period of time, approximately and then you know at what point should you go from just the planning process to the building and safety process and do they go in parallel, like all of those questions. 104 00:16:10.980 --> 00:16:23.190 lauren siegel: can make or break a project for somebody if they don't do it properly, and each one is so time consuming, and there has to be a way to be as efficient as possible, does that make sense. 105 00:16:23.430 --> 00:16:23.760 yeah. 106 00:16:25.980 --> 00:16:28.560 Michael Jensen: Although as efficient as possible it's probably. 107 00:16:30.420 --> 00:16:31.710 Michael Jensen: going to be a disappointing. 108 00:16:34.800 --> 00:16:36.450 Michael Jensen: timeline, in reality, but yeah. 109 00:16:36.600 --> 00:16:37.110 Michael Jensen: I understand. 110 00:16:37.800 --> 00:16:47.460 lauren siegel: Some people Oh, you know talk about how long the process has taken and how they had one problem that set them off the course and that cost them six months a year. 111 00:16:47.820 --> 00:16:54.990 lauren siegel: And if we can have expectations of if you follow this way, and then you go this way, and then you go this way approximately how long it will take. 112 00:16:55.470 --> 00:16:56.730 Michael Jensen: I just thought like. 113 00:16:57.000 --> 00:16:59.340 lauren siegel: Everyone can benefit from that information. 114 00:17:02.460 --> 00:17:07.950 Michael Jensen: yeah be great if the city did that i'll poke around and see what I can find. 115 00:17:09.030 --> 00:17:13.890 Michael Jensen: Well, anyway, it is 706 we have a quorum so i'm going to call the meeting to order. 116 00:17:15.780 --> 00:17:18.270 Michael Jensen: And I guess flag me. 117 00:17:19.290 --> 00:17:22.740 Michael Jensen: flag me down, let me see if there's anyone who just joined us know. 118 00:17:24.690 --> 00:17:30.330 Michael Jensen: If we end up getting other committee members on it, the only APP since i'm aware of is going to be Andrew so. 119 00:17:31.530 --> 00:17:32.520 Michael Jensen: I think. 120 00:17:34.110 --> 00:17:35.640 Michael Jensen: Oh there's matt Royce. 121 00:17:36.240 --> 00:17:38.190 Mehrnoosh: You said that to stay out of voting right. 122 00:17:39.150 --> 00:17:42.390 Michael Jensen: yeah you just you're not eligible to vote our new show i'm sorry. 123 00:17:43.830 --> 00:17:44.700 Michael Jensen: Not nothing personal. 124 00:17:46.380 --> 00:17:47.340 Michael Jensen: And I don't make the rules. 125 00:17:50.430 --> 00:17:59.760 Michael Jensen: Alright, so it is 707 i'm going to call the meeting to order, let me just go through, and actually hold on, let me screen share here. 126 00:18:04.110 --> 00:18:09.090 Michael Jensen: The sorry i'm learning jim's new thing. 127 00:18:34.560 --> 00:18:36.630 Michael Jensen: Can everyone see the agenda. 128 00:18:37.290 --> 00:18:38.550 corinne Baginski: yeah great. 129 00:18:40.440 --> 00:18:44.640 Michael Jensen: Okay, so um roll call. 130 00:18:46.140 --> 00:18:47.070 Michael Jensen: career in. 131 00:18:47.730 --> 00:18:49.500 Michael Jensen: Here very. 132 00:18:54.900 --> 00:18:55.890 barry Cassilly: Good somebody talking to me. 133 00:18:57.210 --> 00:18:58.320 Michael Jensen: let's roll call, are you there. 134 00:18:58.800 --> 00:18:59.790 barry Cassilly: i'm here, yes. 135 00:19:00.750 --> 00:19:02.040 lauren siegel: lauren yes. 136 00:19:03.450 --> 00:19:04.440 Michael Jensen: Matthew Royce. 137 00:19:04.890 --> 00:19:05.160 here. 138 00:19:10.560 --> 00:19:17.190 Michael Jensen: Andrew Mika is absent, Chris poured is absent, I don't see him in the. 139 00:19:18.540 --> 00:19:20.040 Michael Jensen: attendees. 140 00:19:21.420 --> 00:19:31.590 Michael Jensen: All right, and i'm here all right declaration of ex parte communications or conflicts of interest anyone who's had. 141 00:19:32.640 --> 00:19:40.620 Michael Jensen: conversations with the applicants or other committee members on items on the agenda i'll start off I spoke. 142 00:19:41.220 --> 00:19:54.990 Michael Jensen: To staff members on each of the cases that are assigned i'm not there's so many cases i'm not going to go through them individually, but i've spoken to each of the staff members on their cases I also spoke to the applicant for item. 143 00:20:01.830 --> 00:20:04.950 Michael Jensen: 1317 or sorry 1217 ocean front walk. 144 00:20:06.600 --> 00:20:07.350 Michael Jensen: And that's mine. 145 00:20:08.610 --> 00:20:22.350 lauren siegel: I spoke with applicants that have cases that i've been reviewing seventh avenue galleon and rose and then i've spoken to the planning department appointees for each of those. 146 00:20:31.530 --> 00:20:32.190 Michael Jensen: anyone else. 147 00:20:36.510 --> 00:20:43.500 Michael Jensen: Okay, moving on announcement and public comments comments on items, not on the agenda i'll just start off with some announcements. 148 00:20:45.630 --> 00:20:51.300 Michael Jensen: The dnc appointed a new chair that's me Hello everyone, my name is Michael Jensen. 149 00:20:52.680 --> 00:20:53.970 Michael Jensen: For those of you who don't know me. 150 00:20:55.470 --> 00:21:12.120 Michael Jensen: I want to resume in terms of the loop that calendar resume doing the first and last thursday's of each month, so for everyone listening pencil those in i'm working on a way to create that through the dnc calendar. 151 00:21:13.440 --> 00:21:17.880 Michael Jensen: So that they appear on our calendar, you know i'm going to calendar it through the end of the year. 152 00:21:18.840 --> 00:21:31.920 Michael Jensen: But you can plan on those being regular meetings, I think the one exception, for that is thanksgiving in November falls on the last Thursday, so that one i'm going to move up a week, but other than that it should be pretty consistent. 153 00:21:33.000 --> 00:21:48.630 Michael Jensen: Third, we have a committee vacancy there's an open seat on Lou peck the the application is available on our committee webpage the address is on the agenda. 154 00:21:50.670 --> 00:22:02.130 Michael Jensen: And number four April 17 we're going to have a presentation and status update from the planning Department on the Community plan and local land use plan. 155 00:22:03.870 --> 00:22:08.070 Michael Jensen: So put that in your calendars please and there's a typo I noticed from. 156 00:22:09.210 --> 00:22:09.570 Michael Jensen: That. 157 00:22:12.810 --> 00:22:18.990 Michael Jensen: And those are the announcements now for public comments for items, not on the agenda. 158 00:22:20.280 --> 00:22:30.270 Michael Jensen: Please raise your hand and i'll call on you in order i'm going to give it about 10 seconds for everyone to chime in, and then I will close public comment on it. 159 00:22:33.390 --> 00:22:37.350 lauren siegel: We have a timeframe for when we're selecting the vacancy. 160 00:22:38.100 --> 00:22:41.850 Michael Jensen: um good question and I don't. 161 00:22:42.990 --> 00:22:46.440 Michael Jensen: I don't know that there's a deadline to apply um. 162 00:22:47.490 --> 00:22:53.460 Michael Jensen: But that's a good question, I will I will ask the powers to be. 163 00:22:57.960 --> 00:23:00.060 Michael Jensen: So i'm not seeing any hands. 164 00:23:01.050 --> 00:23:03.300 Mehrnoosh: yeah that's good question. 165 00:23:03.840 --> 00:23:08.280 Mehrnoosh: Yes, you said, the update, we were having an April 17 thunder. 166 00:23:08.970 --> 00:23:14.610 Michael Jensen: So April 17 the planning department is going to come present before our committee. 167 00:23:15.030 --> 00:23:16.050 that's a sand. 168 00:23:17.190 --> 00:23:17.910 Michael Jensen: April. 169 00:23:20.760 --> 00:23:21.990 Michael Jensen: i'm sorry about that. 170 00:23:23.850 --> 00:23:24.720 Michael Jensen: April. 171 00:23:25.740 --> 00:23:28.470 Michael Jensen: may be is the 14th day April 14. 172 00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:32.250 Michael Jensen: My my mistake. 173 00:23:33.450 --> 00:23:37.350 Michael Jensen: April 14 there is a presentation from planning. 174 00:23:43.230 --> 00:23:47.760 Michael Jensen: So i'm not seeing any hands up for public comment on items, not on the agenda. 175 00:23:49.740 --> 00:23:53.400 Michael Jensen: We have some moving on to agenda item number six which. 176 00:23:54.600 --> 00:23:56.820 Michael Jensen: I attempted to try and have sub. 177 00:23:58.710 --> 00:24:13.170 Michael Jensen: Sub cases for this, but we have a long list from the cmc report of Venice sign off cases that are de minimis. 178 00:24:14.640 --> 00:24:26.520 Michael Jensen: And I would like to you know we discuss when those things come up assigning them to staff and having someone track them and basically dialogue with the. 179 00:24:27.180 --> 00:24:39.090 Michael Jensen: The dedicated planning staff on when the vso determination is made, and then they make it to you, I would, I would like to formally push them through the process then. 180 00:24:40.590 --> 00:24:49.200 Michael Jensen: So I have done an initial list here, although I do want to remove a couple of cases that i've since noticed, for I just jumped the gun on. 181 00:24:50.610 --> 00:24:55.320 Michael Jensen: So the cases I just want to be clear 338 indiana. 182 00:24:56.640 --> 00:24:58.200 Michael Jensen: Which is. 183 00:24:58.830 --> 00:24:59.400 lauren siegel: it's mine. 184 00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:04.290 Michael Jensen: right here, I want to remove this from from the list. 185 00:25:08.820 --> 00:25:11.550 Michael Jensen: Eight sorry 653 sunset. 186 00:25:11.910 --> 00:25:13.050 lauren siegel: exactly that one two. 187 00:25:14.490 --> 00:25:17.190 Michael Jensen: And 418 grand. 188 00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:24.480 Michael Jensen: And 1217 oh sorry that one's not for it's just those three. 189 00:25:25.140 --> 00:25:29.250 lauren siegel: And you will removing those because they haven't been reviewed with you, yet. 190 00:25:29.700 --> 00:25:33.960 Michael Jensen: planning to be they haven't been determined yet by planning to be csos. 191 00:25:35.010 --> 00:25:39.840 Michael Jensen: And so I just I jumped the gun on putting it there, because I saw the vso tag. 192 00:25:40.890 --> 00:25:42.210 Michael Jensen: The other cases. 193 00:25:44.370 --> 00:25:47.340 Michael Jensen: I would like, and I. 194 00:25:48.480 --> 00:25:52.920 Michael Jensen: Do not believe we have to do a roll call vote, but if anyone else would like to pull a case. 195 00:25:54.480 --> 00:25:59.130 Michael Jensen: Oh, I see Chris has joined hold on if anyone else would like to pull a case. 196 00:25:59.190 --> 00:26:00.330 Michael Jensen: We will pull them and they. 197 00:26:00.330 --> 00:26:02.190 Michael Jensen: become part of the regular. 198 00:26:02.280 --> 00:26:02.940 calendar. 199 00:26:04.170 --> 00:26:08.190 Michael Jensen: Otherwise, these cases go automatically to the board with our. 200 00:26:09.300 --> 00:26:11.700 Michael Jensen: Request for a de minimis letter. 201 00:26:13.290 --> 00:26:23.370 lauren siegel: I had went on there at 127 galleon that i've left several messages for planning and haven't heard back so it might be premature to have it in there. 202 00:26:24.360 --> 00:26:26.430 Michael Jensen: So this is a conversion. 203 00:26:26.580 --> 00:26:33.330 Michael Jensen: Yes, change of use of an existing REC room to an ad new I. 204 00:26:35.010 --> 00:26:37.530 lauren siegel: question I have is if they haven't fully. 205 00:26:38.550 --> 00:26:42.450 lauren siegel: Review too early to really make sense. 206 00:26:47.520 --> 00:26:48.150 Michael Jensen: Barry can you. 207 00:26:48.990 --> 00:26:51.450 Michael Jensen: Your background noise is a little distracting. 208 00:26:51.960 --> 00:26:54.270 barry Cassilly: Okay sorry yes i'm trying. 209 00:26:55.680 --> 00:26:59.490 Michael Jensen: So okay so galleon also pull. 210 00:27:01.980 --> 00:27:03.450 A record. 211 00:27:05.040 --> 00:27:05.790 Michael Jensen: And it's this. 212 00:27:05.850 --> 00:27:09.870 lauren siegel: For lack of communication back from planning, you know we all know that it's going to. 213 00:27:10.890 --> 00:27:13.710 Michael Jensen: Where it's yeah who's the planner. 214 00:27:14.580 --> 00:27:15.330 Brendan. 215 00:27:16.860 --> 00:27:22.950 lauren siegel: Which i've had no problem, talking about my other two cases but i've left him several messages this week and I haven't heard back from him. 216 00:27:25.950 --> 00:27:35.130 Michael Jensen: Okay, so we will pull that from the consent and i'm like another the other ones here. 217 00:27:37.230 --> 00:27:40.050 Michael Jensen: And there's no I don't see any hands up from the public. 218 00:27:42.120 --> 00:27:50.430 Matthew Royce: Because I talked to Chris earlier i'm helping out on 647 Westminster that that cases not ready, it has to be modified with planning. 219 00:27:52.140 --> 00:27:52.590 Matthew Royce: So that. 220 00:27:52.620 --> 00:27:53.670 Michael Jensen: Order seven. 221 00:27:54.360 --> 00:28:00.390 Matthew Royce: 647 Westminster that'll come back later, but it's not it's going to be modified and come back later. 222 00:28:01.140 --> 00:28:02.730 Michael Jensen: Wait is this one on the list of. 223 00:28:02.820 --> 00:28:03.570 Michael Jensen: Cases in the. 224 00:28:03.660 --> 00:28:04.380 Michael Jensen: First 20. 225 00:28:05.610 --> 00:28:06.300 Matthew Royce: um. 226 00:28:07.170 --> 00:28:07.440 Michael Jensen: I don't. 227 00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:11.070 Matthew Royce: Know maybe it's on the second list sorry. 228 00:28:11.910 --> 00:28:20.880 Michael Jensen: Okay, so we'll get to we'll get to the 50 case list that capital presented us last one. 229 00:28:21.510 --> 00:28:21.810 But. 230 00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:26.130 Michael Jensen: that'll be that's that's at the end so i'm just. 231 00:28:28.050 --> 00:28:29.040 Michael Jensen: Moving. 232 00:28:32.070 --> 00:28:33.450 Matthew Royce: it's let's see. 233 00:28:42.930 --> 00:28:45.690 Matthew Royce: it's, on the other, the regular calendar sorry. 234 00:28:47.280 --> 00:28:54.840 Michael Jensen: i'm sorry i'm just going through and I have to make alternate motions for these ones that are getting removed. 235 00:28:55.920 --> 00:29:00.630 Michael Jensen: it's 5353 here. 236 00:29:23.250 --> 00:29:24.960 Michael Jensen: So with that. 237 00:29:27.870 --> 00:29:31.860 Michael Jensen: There is no vote on consent, so we are just going. 238 00:29:34.200 --> 00:29:38.760 Michael Jensen: To pass these ones with a recommendation for a de minimis letter onto the board. 239 00:29:40.710 --> 00:29:50.550 lauren siegel: And I just have one other point one of mine that belongs, there is not there is it the four or six rows Is it too late to add that, at this point like we talked about. 240 00:29:50.910 --> 00:30:01.050 Michael Jensen: It is too late, so we have a meeting in a week so we'll put it on for that one and by then maybe I will have mastered this. 241 00:30:02.550 --> 00:30:03.420 Michael Jensen: Agenda 242 00:30:04.470 --> 00:30:05.910 Michael Jensen: thing so. 243 00:30:07.050 --> 00:30:16.440 Michael Jensen: Tonight we have a one presentation, so I believe, actually, the applicant for 237 current is that yours your case. 244 00:30:19.710 --> 00:30:20.550 corinne Baginski: Yes, it's mine. 245 00:30:21.120 --> 00:30:29.100 Michael Jensen: And laurels here Laurel just plan to be at the board meeting next i'm gonna allow her to talk. 246 00:30:30.330 --> 00:30:34.890 Michael Jensen: i'm just planning to be at the board meeting next month it's the third Tuesday. 247 00:30:35.490 --> 00:30:35.790 Okay. 248 00:30:37.980 --> 00:30:45.180 Michael Jensen: and, potentially, you will not unless someone pulls you from consent there's it'll be sort of the same deal. 249 00:30:46.830 --> 00:30:50.910 Michael Jensen: And, but I would be there just on standby in case someone does pull it. 250 00:30:51.720 --> 00:30:57.900 Laurel Broughton: Okay, and I find out where that are you know the zoom links and all that. 251 00:30:59.250 --> 00:31:02.760 Michael Jensen: So the agenda same deal will be posted 72 hours ahead of time. 252 00:31:02.850 --> 00:31:04.110 Michael Jensen: On the dnc website. 253 00:31:05.430 --> 00:31:08.310 Michael Jensen: And i'm sorry I forgot to send you the link directly. 254 00:31:08.970 --> 00:31:11.070 Michael Jensen: But I predicted that so I found it yeah. 255 00:31:12.390 --> 00:31:16.350 Michael Jensen: So, but it same deal it'll be posted on the dnc website. 256 00:31:17.100 --> 00:31:18.120 Michael Jensen: Okay okay. 257 00:31:18.450 --> 00:31:32.580 Laurel Broughton: Just one quick quick quick comment unrelated to my project, the HP HP cozy planners have a timeline kind of thingy sort of what lauren siegel is asking about what you guys might. 258 00:31:33.390 --> 00:31:52.830 Laurel Broughton: want to look at if you're the make new one it's useful in that it shows you with the whole process only dealing with the HBO the department it's not it's completely not useful in terms of gauging how much time, the process will take, but. 259 00:31:54.600 --> 00:31:56.460 Michael Jensen: Alright well thanks for the thanks for the tip. 260 00:32:01.260 --> 00:32:06.660 Michael Jensen: Okay, moving on 21, which is supposed to be a category and have. 261 00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:20.070 Michael Jensen: You know sub sub cases below it but 21 and now 22 1217 ocean front walk, also known as the Venice waldorf. 262 00:32:21.090 --> 00:32:25.980 Michael Jensen: Andrew Mika his staff on this, but he is not here tonight i'm going to just. 263 00:32:27.030 --> 00:32:29.100 Michael Jensen: Let the applicant do their presentation. 264 00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:31.230 Michael Jensen: and 265 00:32:33.660 --> 00:32:42.060 Michael Jensen: And then we'll do public comments, if I could have a motion to introduce this for debate or something like that I believe is the. 266 00:32:43.320 --> 00:32:44.850 Michael Jensen: Is the new way we do this correct. 267 00:32:48.360 --> 00:32:51.030 barry Cassilly: you're asking for one of us to make a motion to introduce. 268 00:32:52.860 --> 00:32:56.370 Michael Jensen: Yes, I believe that's the new methodology we're using so. 269 00:32:56.430 --> 00:32:59.790 barry Cassilly: Oh yeah Jim i'm make the motion to introduce it. 270 00:33:00.870 --> 00:33:01.710 Michael Jensen: Do I have a second. 271 00:33:02.130 --> 00:33:03.240 Chris Plourde: I said it again. 272 00:33:04.020 --> 00:33:05.400 Michael Jensen: So that was. 273 00:33:07.050 --> 00:33:07.560 lauren siegel: Very. 274 00:33:08.520 --> 00:33:10.110 Michael Jensen: So there's no place for me to write that. 275 00:33:12.420 --> 00:33:14.670 Michael Jensen: All right, Barry and sorry the second was. 276 00:33:17.010 --> 00:33:18.570 Chris Plourde: I bear a sentence. 277 00:33:18.990 --> 00:33:23.910 Michael Jensen: Okay, I don't think this is the way I do this but i'm really. 278 00:33:24.060 --> 00:33:27.270 Michael Jensen: excited agenda it's very exciting, let me. 279 00:33:27.780 --> 00:33:29.850 Michael Jensen: Elizabeth Patterson is the. 280 00:33:33.330 --> 00:33:34.980 Michael Jensen: hi Elizabeth do you have a. 281 00:33:36.510 --> 00:33:38.250 Michael Jensen: Do you have a site plan you want to show her anything. 282 00:33:39.600 --> 00:33:40.410 Michael Jensen: For your presentation. 283 00:33:45.060 --> 00:33:46.350 Michael Jensen: you'll have to unmute yourself. 284 00:33:54.210 --> 00:33:57.480 Elizabeth Peterson gower: hi Elizabeth peterson hi can you hear me now. 285 00:33:58.020 --> 00:34:05.790 Elizabeth Peterson gower: Yes, excellent mark Jones is also on the call from Elizabeth theaters and group and he was going to share a PowerPoint with you, oh. 286 00:34:05.850 --> 00:34:08.940 Michael Jensen: OK mark Jones, so I will promote them to a panelist. 287 00:34:10.200 --> 00:34:11.220 Michael Jensen: will talk. 288 00:34:24.990 --> 00:34:27.570 Mark Jones: I think I need permission to share my screen. 289 00:34:28.050 --> 00:34:29.730 Michael Jensen: Okay, so. 290 00:34:50.400 --> 00:34:51.270 Michael Jensen: yeah Please proceed. 291 00:34:51.720 --> 00:34:59.100 Elizabeth Peterson gower: Oh great Thank you Elizabeth peterson applicants representative 400 South Main Street unit 808 Los Angeles California. 292 00:34:59.700 --> 00:35:05.100 Elizabeth Peterson gower: Tonight we're very pleased to present the Venice waldorf located at 1217 ocean front walk. 293 00:35:05.790 --> 00:35:11.130 Elizabeth Peterson gower: We are requesting a conditional use permit to allow the ceiling dispensing of a full line of alcoholic beverages. 294 00:35:11.580 --> 00:35:25.800 Elizabeth Peterson gower: For onsite consumption in conjunction with an existing 1276 square foot restaurant having 43 interior seats in 896 square feet of floor service area located on the ground floor. 295 00:35:26.790 --> 00:35:37.650 Elizabeth Peterson gower: And the existing 706 square foot basement theater with 49 seats in the existing 26,241 square foot apartment hotel. 296 00:35:38.040 --> 00:35:54.810 Elizabeth Peterson gower: A coastal development permit for the reestablishment of the existing ground floor restaurant and basement theater and we have no change of use for the property on the facility, the Walter opened in May of 1915 and it was an exclusive and luxurious. 297 00:35:55.830 --> 00:36:01.110 Elizabeth Peterson gower: home, and it was very much in the Charlie Chaplin era fit our vocal and clear about. 298 00:36:01.740 --> 00:36:12.150 Elizabeth Peterson gower: A Venice is early development and the rise is a recreational destination between 1910 in 1930 this rock ballroom use would live in your team was also there. 299 00:36:12.780 --> 00:36:26.970 Elizabeth Peterson gower: The proposed restaurant is a 1276 square foot with 43 seats as previously mentioned the restaurant uses an existing per 1967 certificate of occupancy for the restaurant it'll be a casual. 300 00:36:27.810 --> 00:36:37.500 Elizabeth Peterson gower: dining option right on the beach and will re establish the historic use in a manner that's faithful to the Venice roots and hours of operation or 6pm to 2am. 301 00:36:39.150 --> 00:36:50.040 Elizabeth Peterson gower: The basement theater is 748 square feet and has 49 seats and is also historic and was part of the 1969 certificate of occupancy. 302 00:36:50.550 --> 00:36:54.090 Elizabeth Peterson gower: The theater will be used for movie screenings plays in comedy shows. 303 00:36:54.630 --> 00:37:03.390 Elizabeth Peterson gower: we've had many calls and hosted site walkthrough for Community stakeholders numerous support letters and had been received, and we will be submitting the project. 304 00:37:03.840 --> 00:37:15.090 Elizabeth Peterson gower: We hosted a virtual Community meeting in August 13 of 2020 to discuss the project and based on feedback we decided to remove the hotel room mini bars. 305 00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:19.680 Elizabeth Peterson gower: On and made some changes to the plans and we felt that the outreach made in a much better project. 306 00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:30.960 Elizabeth Peterson gower: Approval the requested CP for alcohol sales and service will re energize the ground floor of the historic property by making way for the vibrant restaurant, along with the lobby bar. 307 00:37:31.500 --> 00:37:41.280 Elizabeth Peterson gower: will bring back the properties historic abundance and the character, creating an indoor outdoor feel and putting ice on the street re establishing the historic basement theater use. 308 00:37:41.970 --> 00:37:50.640 Elizabeth Peterson gower: and make a for the preservation of a $10 million revenue innovation of historical older property no change of use and we have no new square footage. 309 00:37:51.090 --> 00:37:57.000 Elizabeth Peterson gower: Up request fully complements the Venice coastal specific plan and Venice coastal land use plan. 310 00:37:57.990 --> 00:38:10.320 Elizabeth Peterson gower: And the MC code, we have no change abuse, and we have a certificate of occupancy we've had several certificate of occupancy is issued recently and we're really just requesting a conditional use. 311 00:38:11.370 --> 00:38:22.680 Elizabeth Peterson gower: permit for the alcohol sales and service for the restaurant and the theater and the small rooftop area that we have so we're very happy to be here and i'm happy to answer questions. 312 00:38:23.370 --> 00:38:34.980 Elizabeth Peterson gower: That you may have about the project and we're really pleased that the waldorf is back open and it's been a long time, a lot of back and forth and we're really happy that the building has been completed now. 313 00:38:35.520 --> 00:38:51.390 Michael Jensen: I actually just wanna ask a clarifying question, so this entitlement request is solely for a restaurant and the theater and those are so it doesn't include anything relating to hotel rooms, or the residential uses above. 314 00:38:52.260 --> 00:39:02.100 Elizabeth Peterson gower: That is correct there's a deck that we would like to serve alcohol on and that is part of it, and I think there's a 13 seats on that deck actually. 315 00:39:03.480 --> 00:39:04.530 Chris Plourde: On a real stack. 316 00:39:05.310 --> 00:39:05.790 Yes. 317 00:39:09.660 --> 00:39:12.030 Elizabeth Peterson gower: it's 200 square feet and 13 seats. 318 00:39:13.470 --> 00:39:14.730 lauren siegel: I have a question. 319 00:39:15.870 --> 00:39:23.910 lauren siegel: To clarify you had mentioned in one of the first slides that you were looking to serve alcohol from 6am to 2am or was it just the restaurant from. 320 00:39:24.810 --> 00:39:28.530 Elizabeth Peterson gower: The restaurant is the hours of operation or 6pm to 2am that were requesting. 321 00:39:29.070 --> 00:39:31.290 Chris Plourde: Okay, is that is that for the roof deck as. 322 00:39:31.350 --> 00:39:35.280 Elizabeth Peterson gower: Well, no, the rift up would be conducting with less hours. 323 00:39:35.850 --> 00:39:36.150 Elizabeth Peterson gower: Okay. 324 00:39:36.720 --> 00:39:41.070 lauren siegel: And so, what are the hours for alcohol or is that something that you're not specifying. 325 00:39:42.030 --> 00:39:47.700 Elizabeth Peterson gower: Well, sales and service about calls loud in the state of California from 6am to 2am so that's what we asked for. 326 00:39:52.500 --> 00:39:53.730 Michael Jensen: Any other committee questions. 327 00:39:56.370 --> 00:40:04.620 Michael Jensen: i'm going to open it up to public comment, so if the public could raise their hands. 328 00:40:05.820 --> 00:40:07.320 Michael Jensen: And i'll give it about. 329 00:40:09.450 --> 00:40:11.190 Michael Jensen: 1520 seconds here. 330 00:40:18.600 --> 00:40:21.090 Michael Jensen: I see three public comments. 331 00:40:25.770 --> 00:40:32.010 Michael Jensen: Okay, public comment will close with Helen are actually I see two public comments jack Hoffman Helen talon. 332 00:40:34.380 --> 00:40:35.550 Michael Jensen: jack Hoffman go ahead. 333 00:40:56.610 --> 00:40:57.840 Michael Jensen: you're gonna ask yourself. 334 00:41:03.510 --> 00:41:04.050 Jack V. Hoffmann: Okay. 335 00:41:05.670 --> 00:41:07.590 Jack V. Hoffmann: Sorry, I think I spent my minute already. 336 00:41:08.850 --> 00:41:12.540 Michael Jensen: Sorry, I actually forgot about that, yes, public comment one one minute limit. 337 00:41:13.530 --> 00:41:15.780 Jack V. Hoffmann: And i'm a very strong supporter of. 338 00:41:15.810 --> 00:41:21.780 Jack V. Hoffmann: Regulating alcohol use, given the amount of unregulated alcohol use on the boardwalk. 339 00:41:22.620 --> 00:41:31.050 Jack V. Hoffmann: And what they're asking for is consistent with everything and all of the other surrounding neighborhoods and I have always found that. 340 00:41:31.560 --> 00:41:38.460 Jack V. Hoffmann: allowance to bring people who are gainful and helpful to the Community, and I support it strongly. 341 00:41:39.450 --> 00:41:44.910 Jack V. Hoffmann: In addition to the alcohol, if I don't know if this is part of the issue tonight. 342 00:41:45.330 --> 00:41:54.360 Jack V. Hoffmann: But reopening that restaurant on the ground floor returns to that building what had been that when I got to Venice in the 80s, that was a very, very popular. 343 00:41:54.780 --> 00:42:04.800 Jack V. Hoffmann: restaurant for the Community, for many, many years so seeing it return to its original state is not only historic, but I think beneficial to the modern. 344 00:42:05.580 --> 00:42:11.490 Jack V. Hoffmann: Contemporary Community that's surrounding that property and I really appreciate very much I knew George lenny who. 345 00:42:12.120 --> 00:42:24.420 Jack V. Hoffmann: owned that hotel for probably 30 years and he used to drive up from Laguna to work on it and maintain it because he loved that building and i'm sure that he would love what Carl did to it he's past many years ago, but. 346 00:42:24.630 --> 00:42:26.190 Michael Jensen: that's your time jack thanks thanks. 347 00:42:26.400 --> 00:42:26.820 Jack V. Hoffmann: Thank you. 348 00:42:28.440 --> 00:42:35.040 Michael Jensen: Helen fallon and RON i'll get i'll RON and pamela will keep since there's so few public comments I will. 349 00:42:36.840 --> 00:42:37.380 Michael Jensen: allow it. 350 00:42:39.210 --> 00:42:39.630 Michael Jensen: Helen. 351 00:42:40.620 --> 00:42:45.960 Helen Fallon: might have been sitting on a roof deck first off why isn't the staff record available. 352 00:42:46.500 --> 00:42:54.030 Helen Fallon: And I want to point out, for the public that's listening in this is the car Lambert project that was included in a lengthy report them to kill Jensen. 353 00:42:54.720 --> 00:43:00.750 Helen Fallon: wrote in December to upsell on this property other members of this Luca committee lobby for. 354 00:43:01.500 --> 00:43:17.040 Helen Fallon: And I don't understand why some of you have a recuse yourself the optics look pretty bad, not to mention the elaborate subsequently contributed Jim rez campaign for CD 11 Council office this project is tainted by paper plate should be approved, thank you. 355 00:43:20.160 --> 00:43:21.150 Michael Jensen: Thank you Helen. 356 00:43:23.820 --> 00:43:24.450 Michael Jensen: RON. 357 00:43:26.400 --> 00:43:27.630 Michael Jensen: charbonneau. 358 00:43:35.430 --> 00:43:44.130 RON CHARBONNEAU: My name is RON chernow i've lived in this historic building currently the Venice beach hotel for over 40 years. 359 00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:56.490 RON CHARBONNEAU: After 100 years the building needed major players, there are numerous problems with plumbing gas leaks and old elevator outdated electrical wiring. 360 00:43:57.060 --> 00:44:09.840 RON CHARBONNEAU: A cranky central boiler for the steam he redid radiators and leaky wouldn't windows car Lambert faced an overwhelming task and turning the building to its former glory. 361 00:44:10.950 --> 00:44:18.720 RON CHARBONNEAU: The Venice V hotel is stunningly beautiful while preserving an authentic historic vintage look. 362 00:44:19.680 --> 00:44:27.300 RON CHARBONNEAU: it's so exciting to be living on the ocean front walk in the lap of luxury where everything is in perfect working order. 363 00:44:28.020 --> 00:44:42.240 RON CHARBONNEAU: I wholeheartedly support the sale and consumption of alcohol on the President premises guests and visitors should be afforded access to the simple pleasures of life to facilitate their enjoyment. 364 00:44:42.330 --> 00:44:43.350 Michael Jensen: At your time RON. 365 00:44:44.070 --> 00:44:44.490 RON CHARBONNEAU: Thank you. 366 00:44:49.830 --> 00:44:50.670 Michael Jensen: frank lots. 367 00:44:55.860 --> 00:44:56.760 Frank Lutz: hi can you hear me. 368 00:44:57.450 --> 00:44:58.260 Michael Jensen: Yes, we can. 369 00:44:58.710 --> 00:44:59.400 Frank Lutz: Hello Hello. 370 00:45:01.170 --> 00:45:01.440 RON CHARBONNEAU: Hello. 371 00:45:01.530 --> 00:45:02.160 Michael Jensen: We can hear you. 372 00:45:02.580 --> 00:45:10.800 Frank Lutz: yeah hi my name is frank lots that i've lived in Venice is 1968 i've been a property owner property manager antenna. 373 00:45:11.580 --> 00:45:16.560 Frank Lutz: i've watched carl's other projects and this one and he's done a magnificent job and all of them. 374 00:45:17.220 --> 00:45:22.710 Frank Lutz: And not only does he improve the inside of the building of the outside, but also improves the neighborhood and we really appreciate it. 375 00:45:23.400 --> 00:45:32.010 Frank Lutz: I live just across the street and he's changed the whole configuration that neighborhood has made it possible for families to come down and people of all ages and not be molested by. 376 00:45:32.670 --> 00:45:40.020 Frank Lutz: Some of the locals so we appreciate what he's done and he's a great manager and he's an active person in the Community, as well as. 377 00:45:40.470 --> 00:45:50.340 Frank Lutz: In his buildings and making sure they're run right, and I think the restaurant bard would be a nice addition and i'm sure he'll have security there too, but thank you very much for listening to me. 378 00:45:56.310 --> 00:45:56.880 Michael Jensen: Thank you. 379 00:45:58.890 --> 00:46:01.140 Michael Jensen: All right, public comment is closed. 380 00:46:06.540 --> 00:46:07.080 Michael Jensen: So. 381 00:46:08.250 --> 00:46:15.270 Michael Jensen: Helen I guess to respond to you one, this was not a property that was identified on on on the. 382 00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:26.640 Michael Jensen: submission, I had to the dnc a couple months ago, but in any event, I agree that the staff report wasn't posted I decided to keep this on on calendar, so that we could get. 383 00:46:27.720 --> 00:46:32.790 Michael Jensen: Public comments and yet another outreach meeting. 384 00:46:33.930 --> 00:46:34.710 Michael Jensen: On the books. 385 00:46:35.970 --> 00:46:41.130 Michael Jensen: Carl, I think, is he on he can maybe describe I believe there's already been an outreach meeting but. 386 00:46:43.590 --> 00:46:45.540 Michael Jensen: Carl Maybe you can talk about that. 387 00:46:50.850 --> 00:46:56.160 Carl: Yes, thanks for all the comments and. 388 00:46:57.390 --> 00:47:04.140 Carl: We did an outreach on so we had probably 10 to 15 maybe more people. 389 00:47:05.640 --> 00:47:16.950 Carl: And we covered it and thought we would go ahead and take the many bars out but property is no zone, see to and. 390 00:47:18.420 --> 00:47:24.330 Carl: Has a valid see about and we have permits for the restaurant already. 391 00:47:29.520 --> 00:47:31.140 Carl: You have any other questions. 392 00:47:33.660 --> 00:47:35.460 Michael Jensen: So i'll open it up to the committee for discussion. 393 00:47:40.650 --> 00:47:57.090 lauren siegel: I guess, I have a question about the Community outreach where their concerns from neighbors in terms of noise from the rooftop deck bar where you know they'll be serving alcohol till two in the morning how did those get resolved what were their issues, what did they say. 394 00:47:58.440 --> 00:48:20.880 Carl: You know, there really wasn't any concern from the neighbors that roof deck is really kind of isolated it's centrally located and faces outward toward the parking lot and the beach So if you look at the floor plan on the penthouse right there you see the white in the middle. 395 00:48:22.230 --> 00:48:36.180 Carl: That is aiming toward the other toward the parking lot to the north and then so it's smack in the middle, to the right is speedway and there's a very tall. 396 00:48:37.200 --> 00:48:39.900 Carl: Section with immediately. 397 00:48:41.610 --> 00:49:00.030 Carl: speedway because of the elevator shaft I mean it's like 15 feet tall that whole roof side area so there's really no noise it's going to go out to the public, additionally, there are penthouse units and residential units up there, so. 398 00:49:01.260 --> 00:49:06.180 Carl: we're probably going to turn it off around midnight, instead of going fully to to. 399 00:49:07.230 --> 00:49:11.430 Carl: Just because of operations and being considered. 400 00:49:12.870 --> 00:49:13.290 Okay. 401 00:49:14.370 --> 00:49:14.790 Carl: Thank you. 402 00:49:17.340 --> 00:49:21.600 corinne Baginski: hi i'm is doing, like an occupancy load for that space. 403 00:49:22.770 --> 00:49:23.040 corinne Baginski: Like. 404 00:49:23.340 --> 00:49:24.870 corinne Baginski: Like a maximum allowed. 405 00:49:25.560 --> 00:49:27.810 Elizabeth Peterson gower: That it's 13 seats to the space. 406 00:49:28.290 --> 00:49:28.650 uh huh. 407 00:49:30.330 --> 00:49:32.640 corinne Baginski: So who would who would basically. 408 00:49:34.620 --> 00:49:41.100 corinne Baginski: I don't I don't want to say that word but who would control, the number of people and out. 409 00:49:42.390 --> 00:49:49.710 Elizabeth Peterson gower: that's the management of the building there's no judgment for the restaurants and the theater in the building now will control that. 410 00:49:50.220 --> 00:49:54.330 corinne Baginski: So there will be a person basically present. 411 00:49:55.440 --> 00:49:56.640 Elizabeth Peterson gower: that's correct okay. 412 00:50:02.250 --> 00:50:02.670 corinne Baginski: Thank you. 413 00:50:06.930 --> 00:50:08.820 Matthew Royce: Very much to kill or. 414 00:50:09.000 --> 00:50:10.800 Michael Jensen: Is it so yeah that's what so. 415 00:50:12.240 --> 00:50:21.900 Michael Jensen: There was no staff report done on or sorry the staff report is not completed yet and but I decided to keep this on calendar just to introduce the project. 416 00:50:22.950 --> 00:50:27.300 Michael Jensen: You know it's it's I actually I actually expected there to be. 417 00:50:28.350 --> 00:50:30.210 Michael Jensen: More public comments on this, but. 418 00:50:31.680 --> 00:50:34.980 Michael Jensen: In any event, I think what we should probably do is. 419 00:50:36.480 --> 00:50:39.090 Michael Jensen: put this over until a staff reports complete on it. 420 00:50:40.500 --> 00:50:41.430 Michael Jensen: It would also be helpful. 421 00:50:41.970 --> 00:50:44.700 Carl: not to have any more public comment next week. 422 00:50:45.990 --> 00:50:46.710 Michael Jensen: i'm sorry Carl. 423 00:50:47.100 --> 00:50:47.880 Carl: Oh i'm sorry. 424 00:50:48.750 --> 00:50:58.590 Carl: No, I didn't hear you can turn it off, well, I was just wondering if we just since we've already had the public comment, whether it's necessary to have any next week. 425 00:51:01.380 --> 00:51:11.190 Carl: Because I have a lot of other people that are supporters that weren't able today, but I don't need to bring and waste your time. 426 00:51:13.710 --> 00:51:28.710 Michael Jensen: I understand what you're saying I don't have a hard answer for you on that, but mostly because I don't know the procedure, about whether that's possible just off the top of my head, but my suggestion is that we here there's a meeting next Thursday. 427 00:51:29.790 --> 00:51:41.640 Michael Jensen: I suggest that we put this over until then, and hopefully by Monday there'll be a staff report done, and then we can put this on for an actual vote. 428 00:51:43.710 --> 00:51:46.110 Michael Jensen: That would be that's my feeling on it. 429 00:51:48.300 --> 00:52:02.310 Michael Jensen: I think the outreach has been has been met, I think the you know we've we've we've seen the case we've heard from some public comment Carl you may have to have to hear it again so sorry if that's the case but. 430 00:52:04.680 --> 00:52:05.520 Michael Jensen: But yeah i'll make it. 431 00:52:07.470 --> 00:52:08.970 Matthew Royce: till next meeting and stuff. 432 00:52:11.610 --> 00:52:12.510 Michael Jensen: Can I get a second. 433 00:52:13.080 --> 00:52:13.890 Chris Plourde: Second, second. 434 00:52:18.360 --> 00:52:19.140 Chris Plourde: Corinthians. 435 00:52:25.950 --> 00:52:27.330 Michael Jensen: roll call vote here. 436 00:52:29.400 --> 00:52:30.690 Michael Jensen: Sorry, that was matt. 437 00:52:33.150 --> 00:52:33.960 Michael Jensen: maker. 438 00:52:49.980 --> 00:52:50.070 Michael Jensen: pick. 439 00:52:51.960 --> 00:52:56.580 Michael Jensen: The why isn't letting me i'm just gonna have to do this, the old fashioned way and write it down. 440 00:53:06.870 --> 00:53:09.660 Michael Jensen: That Royce maker who's the second or. 441 00:53:10.350 --> 00:53:11.970 Michael Jensen: lauren lauren. 442 00:53:16.170 --> 00:53:16.710 Michael Jensen: All right. 443 00:53:26.130 --> 00:53:26.610 corinne Baginski: Yes. 444 00:53:27.570 --> 00:53:29.250 barry Cassilly: Very yes. 445 00:53:30.240 --> 00:53:32.280 lauren siegel: lauren yes. 446 00:53:32.700 --> 00:53:33.090 matt. 447 00:53:35.640 --> 00:53:36.180 Matthew Royce: Yes. 448 00:53:38.160 --> 00:53:42.210 Michael Jensen: i'm skipping you because you're not eligible to vote i'm sorry Chris. 449 00:53:42.630 --> 00:53:43.170 Yes. 450 00:53:44.520 --> 00:53:51.150 Michael Jensen: And I will vote yes as well motion carries was at six zero to. 451 00:53:54.570 --> 00:54:01.500 Michael Jensen: 50201 sorry guys. 452 00:54:04.980 --> 00:54:06.570 Michael Jensen: Alright, so Carl we'll see you. 453 00:54:09.510 --> 00:54:10.980 Michael Jensen: same time same place. 454 00:54:11.400 --> 00:54:13.350 Carl: Next week, you very much appreciate it. 455 00:54:15.120 --> 00:54:18.780 Michael Jensen: All right now just back to our. 456 00:54:20.400 --> 00:54:21.150 Michael Jensen: Moving on. 457 00:54:22.410 --> 00:54:26.910 Michael Jensen: We had this is item 23 for those are you following along at home. 458 00:54:28.320 --> 00:54:35.070 Michael Jensen: We have a long list of cases I sort of wanted to get through these and see if there's any update on. 459 00:54:37.410 --> 00:54:39.990 Michael Jensen: Oh i'm sorry, let me share my screen here. 460 00:54:44.460 --> 00:54:49.920 Michael Jensen: update from staff on the status, if any, has changed. 461 00:54:53.940 --> 00:55:02.820 Michael Jensen: So we can either move these into the column or potentially de minimis or find out whether they're ready to have outreach meetings, etc. 462 00:55:04.260 --> 00:55:08.160 Michael Jensen: So i'll just start off with 647 West Minster. 463 00:55:10.350 --> 00:55:11.160 corinne Baginski: it's uncle. 464 00:55:13.620 --> 00:55:14.370 Michael Jensen: Okay. 465 00:55:17.580 --> 00:55:18.540 Michael Jensen: and 466 00:55:22.740 --> 00:55:25.500 Michael Jensen: East 30th is that Barry. 467 00:55:28.500 --> 00:55:29.850 barry Cassilly: there's been no change in that one. 468 00:55:31.470 --> 00:55:32.520 Michael Jensen: Okay, so on hold. 469 00:55:33.120 --> 00:55:33.930 barry Cassilly: Yes, well. 470 00:55:35.460 --> 00:55:43.650 barry Cassilly: They just have a lot of complaints about how slow and uncooperative the planning department is, which to me as a whole. 471 00:55:44.550 --> 00:55:49.110 Michael Jensen: Okay 133 hurricane. 472 00:55:50.700 --> 00:55:55.290 lauren siegel: That was the one that the person working with parking and transportation was gonna take on. 473 00:55:56.250 --> 00:55:58.860 Michael Jensen: Oh yeah right sorry I need to look at the description. 474 00:56:00.570 --> 00:56:02.400 Michael Jensen: So I need to. 475 00:56:04.530 --> 00:56:07.380 Michael Jensen: Talk to Robert about that okay. 476 00:56:11.790 --> 00:56:15.210 corinne Baginski: I spoke to the planner and he mentioned it was on hold, as well. 477 00:56:25.980 --> 00:56:26.910 Michael Jensen: 2317 i'm. 478 00:56:26.940 --> 00:56:28.020 Michael Jensen: guessing that's the same yeah. 479 00:56:28.110 --> 00:56:31.920 Michael Jensen: Those are next door at you know one Mr. 480 00:56:35.760 --> 00:56:37.860 Michael Jensen: matt or Chris do you have an update. 481 00:56:38.130 --> 00:56:43.470 Chris Plourde: yeah that's been appeal twice the appeals been denied twice that boat seems to have sailed. 482 00:56:44.640 --> 00:56:45.570 Matthew Royce: yeah I would agree. 483 00:56:48.240 --> 00:56:50.460 Michael Jensen: Okay, so we're just going to take that off the list. 484 00:56:51.900 --> 00:56:53.640 barry Cassilly: How do you appeal something twice. 485 00:56:55.050 --> 00:56:58.020 Chris Plourde: What was was heard and appealed and then it was. 486 00:56:59.430 --> 00:57:01.950 Chris Plourde: The appeal was denied and they appealed it again. 487 00:57:04.410 --> 00:57:05.520 barry Cassilly: You can do that. 488 00:57:06.630 --> 00:57:14.430 Chris Plourde: Apparently, you can apparently you can appeal with new with new reasons until the cows come home. 489 00:57:14.670 --> 00:57:19.890 barry Cassilly: Oh, my God, if I, if I have a neighbor who I really don't like me, I can appeal them like five and six times. 490 00:57:20.550 --> 00:57:21.150 Chris Plourde: yeah you just. 491 00:57:21.780 --> 00:57:22.590 Michael Jensen: have to be a neighbor. 492 00:57:23.010 --> 00:57:24.390 Chris Plourde: You just keep changing. 493 00:57:24.540 --> 00:57:24.990 barry Cassilly: Why. 494 00:57:25.140 --> 00:57:27.840 Chris Plourde: Not just keep changing library you just be changing. 495 00:57:27.840 --> 00:57:28.800 Why you're feeling. 496 00:57:30.270 --> 00:57:31.560 Michael Jensen: So i'm. 497 00:57:33.510 --> 00:57:34.470 Michael Jensen: Wilson. 498 00:57:37.110 --> 00:57:48.270 Michael Jensen: This one's an oddball because, so this one has a vso but it's also asking for a zoning administrator adjustment, how are those two things true at the same time. 499 00:57:50.070 --> 00:57:52.230 barry Cassilly: My understanding is that they cannot be. 500 00:57:53.160 --> 00:57:54.600 Michael Jensen: Right, but they have a related. 501 00:57:54.600 --> 00:57:55.830 Michael Jensen: Case that's a vso. 502 00:57:58.140 --> 00:57:59.820 barry Cassilly: Unless that's just the. 503 00:58:00.810 --> 00:58:06.060 Michael Jensen: addition to existing unless that's just the conversion portion of it is, is that possible. 504 00:58:07.800 --> 00:58:12.240 barry Cassilly: I don't know, I think we have to at the very least get clarification on on something like this is. 505 00:58:12.780 --> 00:58:20.520 Michael Jensen: What it was because, if I read this case description, it looks like it's saying, in addition to an existing single family and. 506 00:58:23.250 --> 00:58:27.210 barry Cassilly: yeah but it's not us it's not up to us to like solve. 507 00:58:27.600 --> 00:58:28.560 Michael Jensen: Okay, so. 508 00:58:28.590 --> 00:58:29.130 fusion. 509 00:58:30.720 --> 00:58:33.450 Michael Jensen: So, have you spoken to the planner yet on that. 510 00:58:34.920 --> 00:58:36.450 No, no. 511 00:58:37.470 --> 00:58:38.550 Michael Jensen: Okay, no update. 512 00:58:43.350 --> 00:58:43.920 Michael Jensen: Okay. 513 00:58:48.270 --> 00:58:48.720 Chris Plourde: In. 514 00:58:49.740 --> 00:58:54.390 Chris Plourde: 24 East eight teeth, the planner says, the representative for the. 515 00:58:55.560 --> 00:58:56.490 Chris Plourde: Excuse me. 516 00:58:58.110 --> 00:59:04.170 Chris Plourde: The property has not responded to her inquiries so it's on it's pending. 517 00:59:05.580 --> 00:59:06.000 All right. 518 00:59:09.510 --> 00:59:15.600 Michael Jensen: East when word Okay, so this one i've been working on with Andrew. 519 00:59:17.460 --> 00:59:21.900 Michael Jensen: i'm hoping to bring in Sasha who's the applicant himself. 520 00:59:23.130 --> 00:59:26.610 Michael Jensen: to at least present what this is about. 521 00:59:28.230 --> 00:59:38.700 Michael Jensen: And he's out of the country, right now, I told them we do it via zoom so he might just have to wake up early or stay up late to do it, I haven't gotten a response to that yet so but i'm hoping. 522 00:59:41.040 --> 00:59:42.150 Michael Jensen: Probably the. 523 00:59:44.160 --> 00:59:45.930 Michael Jensen: last meeting in March, we can. 524 00:59:49.230 --> 00:59:50.250 Michael Jensen: We can bring him in. 525 00:59:55.650 --> 00:59:58.440 Michael Jensen: Next 124 10 grand. 526 01:00:07.830 --> 01:00:08.670 Chris Plourde: Sorry that's me. 527 01:00:12.030 --> 01:00:16.200 Chris Plourde: Pending a supervisor review, so the the staff report has not been released, yet. 528 01:00:22.470 --> 01:00:23.310 Michael Jensen: Okay. 529 01:00:26.370 --> 01:00:29.730 Michael Jensen: 931 nolita that's also you crushed. 530 01:00:32.460 --> 01:00:41.550 Chris Plourde: It is, and this one is the application was incomplete and they're waiting for some more data for the application. 531 01:00:43.890 --> 01:00:49.410 Michael Jensen: Okay, for a six rows this one will have. 532 01:00:49.890 --> 01:00:51.090 lauren siegel: that's the one that's ready for. 533 01:00:51.420 --> 01:00:52.710 Michael Jensen: ready for yeah. 534 01:00:52.740 --> 01:00:53.400 lauren siegel: yeah let's. 535 01:00:53.460 --> 01:00:55.410 lauren siegel: put that in for next meeting. 536 01:01:00.330 --> 01:01:00.840 Okay. 537 01:01:10.380 --> 01:01:14.460 Michael Jensen: Abbot kinney so this isn't, this is not the. 538 01:01:15.780 --> 01:01:16.680 Michael Jensen: One I was thinking of. 539 01:01:19.320 --> 01:01:21.570 Michael Jensen: Abbot kinney is an appeal. 540 01:01:22.830 --> 01:01:32.220 Michael Jensen: I emailed and I think more newstead as well the applicants REP to see if they wanted to bring the appeal issues before us and get a. 541 01:01:34.230 --> 01:01:37.320 Michael Jensen: You know, get our support or not. 542 01:01:38.700 --> 01:01:39.660 Michael Jensen: haven't heard back yet. 543 01:01:39.840 --> 01:01:40.200 No. 544 01:01:42.510 --> 01:01:49.590 Michael Jensen: 128 hurricane parking transportation it's not a duplicate, I guess, I can trash that. 545 01:01:54.750 --> 01:01:56.490 Michael Jensen: 511 Eastern re Alto. 546 01:02:02.520 --> 01:02:02.910 Michael Jensen: Barry. 547 01:02:04.620 --> 01:02:06.240 barry Cassilly: I have not heard back from the applicants. 548 01:02:12.390 --> 01:02:13.530 Okay. 549 01:02:16.590 --> 01:02:18.450 Michael Jensen: 22 South Abbot kinney. 550 01:02:19.890 --> 01:02:21.180 Michael Jensen: This is Andrew so. 551 01:02:22.500 --> 01:02:25.140 Michael Jensen: I guess i'll have to ask him alright guys. 552 01:02:26.430 --> 01:02:29.280 Michael Jensen: That is 645 well that's not right. 553 01:02:31.740 --> 01:02:33.600 Michael Jensen: That does it for our. 554 01:02:35.550 --> 01:02:36.450 Michael Jensen: For our business. 555 01:02:38.220 --> 01:02:48.780 Michael Jensen: I am happy before I joined the meeting i'm happy for any criticism or recommendations for improving I, this was the first one so. 556 01:02:50.490 --> 01:02:56.430 Michael Jensen: You know it's going to be a little bit of a learning process so for everyone at home i'm sorry if that was. 557 01:02:57.870 --> 01:02:58.470 Michael Jensen: painful. 558 01:02:59.700 --> 01:03:08.130 barry Cassilly: This wasn't this was not painful, I want to say, congratulations on having a meeting like lacking in unnecessary drama and getting business done. 559 01:03:08.940 --> 01:03:21.300 lauren siegel: So I just have a concern, though, that we're having so little engagement with the Community there's very little dial in or comments and i'm just wondering what you think that's about. 560 01:03:23.220 --> 01:03:34.830 Michael Jensen: um I don't so tonight, I know, there was a couple other there's like a couple other Community events and I don't know whether that's partially to blame, I guess we'll see you next week. 561 01:03:36.870 --> 01:03:46.290 Michael Jensen: Perhaps, everyone has lost interest in lieu pack at least no one else wanted to run to chair it, so I I don't know what the causes, but. 562 01:03:49.770 --> 01:04:03.150 Michael Jensen: yeah some sometimes that's just the the hand you're dealt, but I would like to part of why I want to restore regular a regular meeting calendar is also so that we. 563 01:04:03.630 --> 01:04:14.280 Michael Jensen: Hopefully, and at a reasonable hour like I don't want to have meetings pasts how, hopefully, you know 930 or 10 o'clock and I think if we have more frequent meetings. 564 01:04:15.570 --> 01:04:21.270 Michael Jensen: And then get through the cases more regularly there won't be you know, a buildup of that. 565 01:04:23.700 --> 01:04:24.390 Michael Jensen: that's the goal. 566 01:04:26.250 --> 01:04:33.240 lauren siegel: How are we dealing with the new cases that are being submitted from the city as we're trying to deal with the backlog. 567 01:04:33.600 --> 01:04:40.260 Michael Jensen: So, Jim has attempted to teach me how to import the cmc reports to. 568 01:04:43.110 --> 01:04:49.080 Michael Jensen: To this new agenda creation tool that he he's um. 569 01:04:50.310 --> 01:04:51.120 Michael Jensen: he's devised. 570 01:04:52.830 --> 01:04:57.990 Michael Jensen: I am not 100% savvy on this thing yet so. 571 01:04:59.490 --> 01:05:11.310 Michael Jensen: New cases will come in and i'll you know i'll have another list of stuff to basically assign out to check whether you know to track for the committee members. 572 01:05:12.060 --> 01:05:19.200 Michael Jensen: Probably a next meeting so there'll be a fresh, because I know a couple of reports have probably come in, since, since this list was generated. 573 01:05:21.450 --> 01:05:28.170 Michael Jensen: And i'm going to talk to Jim about creating I don't know if I don't think i've talked to Jim about creating those but. 574 01:05:29.400 --> 01:05:40.020 Michael Jensen: On our hosting on the dnc page like sort of an active case list that will at least show like the stuff that is in the pipeline. 575 01:05:42.090 --> 01:05:48.570 Michael Jensen: that's my thought so it's just an easy place to for the public, for us to just sort of. 576 01:05:50.280 --> 01:05:52.140 Michael Jensen: monitor what's moving. 577 01:05:53.790 --> 01:06:01.830 Michael Jensen: I don't i'm saying, I would like to do that i'm I don't know how much time it will take to manage that so that's probably going to dictate whether or not it's feasible. 578 01:06:03.660 --> 01:06:05.880 corinne Baginski: Question for our. 579 01:06:07.800 --> 01:06:11.730 corinne Baginski: You um they have to present that do I have to attend. 580 01:06:12.360 --> 01:06:15.660 Michael Jensen: So that that was this de minimis case. 581 01:06:15.720 --> 01:06:16.230 That. 582 01:06:18.060 --> 01:06:20.580 Michael Jensen: My so i'd like to. 583 01:06:21.660 --> 01:06:25.650 Michael Jensen: Keep the dominion of stuff transparent like in terms of like what I think. 584 01:06:29.520 --> 01:06:38.730 Michael Jensen: I guess there are multiple interpretations of what how the de minimis case or the how to manage flutter gets created, I would like it to be created out of a consensus on the committee. 585 01:06:40.200 --> 01:07:00.210 Michael Jensen: without having to you know do a staff report have the applicant host community outreach and appear at the here at the meeting back when I was talking but I I sort of well it's good that she was here, but we didn't have to have lauren Laurel here to present. 586 01:07:01.230 --> 01:07:08.160 Michael Jensen: For it but, in the event that someone pulls it because I think according according to the bylaws anyone from the public or. 587 01:07:08.370 --> 01:07:19.500 Michael Jensen: yeah the committee can pull a case so from consent, which then moves it into like a regular calendar so it's good that I mean she was here in case someone wanted to pull it. 588 01:07:21.000 --> 01:07:23.130 Michael Jensen: But my my. 589 01:07:24.330 --> 01:07:28.410 Michael Jensen: i'm hoping that that doesn't happen, too often, if our. 590 01:07:29.940 --> 01:07:34.470 Michael Jensen: You know if our methodology is correct, so. 591 01:07:36.540 --> 01:07:42.900 Michael Jensen: But then, you know who knows what happens at the board meeting there's a lot bigger audience, a lot more potential for people who just want to pull stuff. 592 01:07:44.940 --> 01:07:47.970 Michael Jensen: For you know, rightly or wrongly so. 593 01:07:49.530 --> 01:07:54.900 Michael Jensen: I guess that's it with the, are there any other questions for new she had one question yeah. 594 01:07:55.440 --> 01:08:04.290 Mehrnoosh: i'm on the list of projects that we were going through this one 849 Dixon street that I was assigned to but we didn't. 595 01:08:04.680 --> 01:08:05.670 Michael Jensen: wasn't on there. 596 01:08:06.300 --> 01:08:08.760 Mehrnoosh: We didn't review, I don't know, maybe we just skip through it. 597 01:08:10.560 --> 01:08:11.700 Mehrnoosh: i'm trying to find him to your. 598 01:08:11.700 --> 01:08:13.560 Michael Jensen: wasn't on the agenda, I guess. 599 01:08:15.480 --> 01:08:17.820 Michael Jensen: The 42 849 Dixon. 600 01:08:18.420 --> 01:08:22.950 Michael Jensen: yeah, so this is a CDP for detached at you. 601 01:08:26.910 --> 01:08:32.460 Michael Jensen: This one I emailed the applicant on as well there's there is a vso case number. 602 01:08:33.180 --> 01:08:38.700 Michael Jensen: I just haven't confirmed that it's being determined a bsl okay. 603 01:08:40.980 --> 01:08:48.090 Chris Plourde: In the tail and sorry I was late, I was trying to find the right link, but we have 701 Lincoln together, did you cover that before I. 604 01:08:48.090 --> 01:09:00.510 Michael Jensen: Better I haven't no I didn't and actually thanks for reminding me, let me email the think it was his attorney that I was speaking to. 605 01:09:02.610 --> 01:09:05.760 Chris Plourde: yeah and I saw your email to him and we never got a response. 606 01:09:06.210 --> 01:09:08.730 Michael Jensen: And so I will follow up. 607 01:09:11.580 --> 01:09:13.200 Michael Jensen: and send another one right now. 608 01:09:15.120 --> 01:09:16.860 Michael Jensen: But yeah the idea, I think we got a. 609 01:09:18.420 --> 01:09:22.470 Michael Jensen: They agreed to have an outreach meeting I said they could have in the parking lot there but. 610 01:09:24.180 --> 01:09:28.620 Michael Jensen: If the site itself is not ready for you know the public. 611 01:09:30.300 --> 01:09:37.500 Michael Jensen: And so I haven't i'll follow up again and hopefully we'll get a response to get that scheduled for early March. 612 01:09:38.940 --> 01:09:39.240 Chris Plourde: Okay. 613 01:09:40.560 --> 01:09:42.450 Michael Jensen: All right, everyone with that all during the meeting. 614 01:09:43.830 --> 01:09:44.370 Michael Jensen: Have a good night. 615 01:09:45.390 --> 01:09:46.170 Chris Plourde: Thank you, thanks man. 616 01:09:46.830 --> 01:09:47.850 corinne Baginski: Thank you so much. 617 01:09:48.000 --> 01:09:49.290 Michael Jensen: bye bye.