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james murez: Speakers not working.

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james murez: Hello.

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james murez: Hello.

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james murez: test test test wow I begin the camera.

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james murez: Let me see somebody three other people that I speakers not working now.

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james murez: trying to get my.

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james murez: Now, is it working testing one Oliver can you hear me.

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Oliver Fries: yeah I can hear you.

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Oliver Fries: Sorry, I didn't catch the march 30 thing I.

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james murez: need to I don't know what happened with that I feel even worse, but you know what if if we get any complaints it'll just be a task force meeting, and we will.

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james murez: have to have a separate meeting to pass what the task force approves that's basically how I feel about it's up to you, though, but.

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Oliver Fries: I mean we, the task force is pretty much done with everything we can do like a quick catch up, or something and then.

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james murez: It would be, it would be going through.

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james murez: Everything and getting everybody on the same page that which we would just claim that this is a task force meeting, rather than a schedule the committee meeting, but you know.

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Oliver Fries: yeah I mean.

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james murez: I personally don't think anything was done incorrectly, because it was posted on the dnc calendar correctly.

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james murez: And that's our official posting place and on the.

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james murez: Bulletin board, I mean it clearly says that at the top of the page.

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Oliver Fries: yeah I mean if people want to nitpick they can.

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Oliver Fries: I agree, as long as the I was, I was just afraid the link wasn't going to work but.

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Oliver Fries: Obviously it's working so.

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james murez: No, no, the link works fine.

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Oliver Fries: So I added your your notes to on lizards document because you guys kind of sent me new documents, at the same time.

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Oliver Fries: Okay, I don't know how to do the notes, where you did it where you like highlighted a word, and then it went to the right, so what I did and you'll see on the master copy is I just put your notes kind of like below in there and read.

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james murez: So hold on a second i'm trying to promote Elizabeth Elizabeth are you there Elizabeth Oh, she just got it okay good.

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Oliver Fries: she's in.

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james murez: And I tried cj cj got into good okay.

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james murez: But there's still one more Elizabeth now that's weird my screen is looking weird Elizabeth can you hear us.

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james murez: i'm trying to promote you, you need to unmute I didn't.

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Oliver Fries: know.

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james murez: I needed Okay, but you're not a panelist yet.

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Oliver Fries: It looks like she is.

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james murez: I know it's not says, promote to pound on my screen.

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james murez: Okay, keep pushing it, you have to accept.

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james murez: There you go.

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james murez: hi cj how are you.

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CJ Cole: Okay, how about you.

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james murez: know you know.

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james murez: I see your dog there on the right.

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james murez: it's on you, what would that be your left on the calendar.

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CJ Cole: Oh that's not my dog my dog is bringing oh.

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CJ Cole: it's okay she's black basically that's just a funny calendar that I buy every year for all my friends you'll have frenchies.

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james murez: got it, you know solid dad has a frenchie to.

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CJ Cole: know, and I just thinking that I should have bought her why.

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james murez: uh huh that we better erase this part of the meeting, just so nobody gets like.

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CJ Cole: That or I can still go by her one.

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CJ Cole: yeah funny.

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james murez: We don't want anybody to feel rejected because they don't think you're their friend.

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james murez: Do we know who else may be attending I think i've been listening to 10.

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Elizabeth Wright: Over i've been is here at my house, would you read him the number that he needs to plug in to be with.

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Oliver Fries: Like the phone number.

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james murez: would be on the.

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james murez: It should be on the.

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Oliver Fries: Number yeah one, second, it is on the agenda.

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james murez: But let me see it is I don't have a copy of the.

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Elizabeth Wright: Agenda he didn't bring a copy of the.

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Oliver Fries: Agenda okay.

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Oliver Fries: Tell me when you're ready.

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Elizabeth Wright: yeah what.

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james murez: Make sure you give him the number that's for the people in China yeah.

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james murez: that's a joke that's a joke.

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Elizabeth Wright: yeah we got it.

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Oliver Fries: Tell me when you're ready.

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Oliver Fries: Okay, so us 669-900-6833 I should do it.

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Elizabeth Wright: 669 900 what's next 683333.

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james murez: should work yeah but only Elizabeth or Ivan will be able to have their microphone turned on or it's going to create a tremendous amount of ECHO.

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Oliver Fries: Correct.

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Elizabeth Wright: Empty your meeting pass code.

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james murez: that's also on the agenda.

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Oliver Fries: If you're ready.

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Elizabeth Wright: yeah go on 840292818719.

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james murez: cj can you give me any.

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Elizabeth Wright: signal that's not it.

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james murez: that's not it.

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Elizabeth Wright: Once the meeting has.

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james murez: A whole lot, let me look to.

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Oliver Fries: The webinar ID is what I.

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james murez: should be.

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Oliver Fries: that's right there.

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Elizabeth Wright: No that wouldn't work, I think.

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james murez: So the webinar the webinar ID is 840.

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james murez: Well, the way you want the past code.

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Elizabeth Wright: Yes.

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james murez: I don't think there was one, it should be on the agenda there.

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james murez: let's see, is there a separate pass code.

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james murez: It doesn't talk about it in the meaning it just has a webinar ID.

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james murez: I can give you the webinar ID which maybe is the same pass code.

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james murez: Central I don't think so either, let me look at the agenda if there was one I don't think there is one, because I think it's because it's a webinar it doesn't have.

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Elizabeth Wright: This has to be soon.

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james murez: yeah I got.

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CJ Cole: let's see go homers committees, I would start all over because it's didn't answer your email yep.

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Elizabeth Wright: No.

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james murez: yeah there is no pass code for you must have entered something wrong.

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Elizabeth Wright: Okay, hang on.

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james murez: You know Ivan it would be a lot easier if you just go to the dnc website click on the right hand column where it shows the link to the rules.

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james murez: Agenda for today and then.

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james murez: daffodil was planning on attending.

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james murez: No, thank you, that was no she's not or no, we don't know.

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Elizabeth Wright: pizza not.

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james murez: she's not planning on attending okay.

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CJ Cole: anybody here from George.

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james murez: No.

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Elizabeth Wright: yeah I talked to him earlier.

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Elizabeth Wright: Let me try this again.

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Recording.

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james murez: I see you now.

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james murez: Then Oliver i'm going to go ahead and make you.

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james murez: A co host so you can run the meeting.

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james murez: Okay, and I am going to make it possible for you or anybody else to share screens.

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Oliver Fries: Okay.

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james murez: I think we're good to go.

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Oliver Fries: Okay did somebody text George or do you want me to text him.

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james murez: I can you can we can both do it.

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Elizabeth Wright: We started the meeting come on in.

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Elizabeth Wright: Well, as the 330.

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james murez: Ivan you want to unmute yourself place what.

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Elizabeth Wright: Okay.

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james murez: squeaking like it is.

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james murez: it's you squeak and you Elizabeth must be in the same room.

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Oliver Fries: so far.

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Oliver Fries: looks like.

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james murez: curious.

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james murez: What a pro modem or, should I.

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Oliver Fries: I gotta it's done you did it.

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Oliver Fries: I think so cool I did it too So there we go great awesome.

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Oliver Fries: hey George.

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Oliver Fries: And i'll just.

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james murez: i'll just keep an eye and see if anybody else comes quiet.

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Oliver Fries: Okay let's go ahead and start the meeting call to order, this is all over freeze it's 336 I.

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Elizabeth Wright: mean you are yours.

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james murez: Ivan you can't do that man you're echoing really bad.

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Oliver Fries: Until you're ready.

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Oliver Fries: Until we call on you, either.

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james murez: In what we call on Ivan, we have to make sure that Elizabeth is muted.

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Oliver Fries: Okay, so.

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Oliver Fries: i'm going to call roll.

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Oliver Fries: All of your freeze here.

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Oliver Fries: Jordan Francisco.

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Oliver Fries: George.

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james murez: He signified by raising his hand.

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Oliver Fries: Okay he's here okay George interest goes here daffodils minsky absent cj call.

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Oliver Fries: No she's there cj.

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Oliver Fries: Here Liz right.

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CJ Cole: I hear me.

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Oliver Fries: Now I hear you you're here.

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Oliver Fries: You said here right.

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Oliver Fries: Okay Liz right.

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Oliver Fries: she's waving that she's here I Evan.

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Ivan: Spiegel i'm here.

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james murez: yeah i'm here.

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Oliver Fries: Okay now we're moving on to the meeting minutes from the prior meeting does anybody have any comments.

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Oliver Fries: I do okay.

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CJ Cole: Okay um, we need to be looking at 10 minutes on your five.

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CJ Cole: It says standing rules have been updated and cleaned up and that is not true.

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CJ Cole: Okay Okay, so that just needs to be a I mean we had an update Elizabeth gave us an update, but we didn't you know the standing roles, have not been completed and cleaned up.

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Oliver Fries: Okay, so.

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CJ Cole: Six it says standing roles that are approved, and we did not take a vote to approve them.

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CJ Cole: So that comes out.

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CJ Cole: Okay, and then under a loving, we have a motion amended in a vote and then we had a vote on the emotion Amended motion but I have no idea what the Amended motion is.

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Oliver Fries: Sorry number 11.

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CJ Cole: that's the boundary adjustment.

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Oliver Fries: right and it was at the top.

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CJ Cole: Well, it was at the bottom actually.

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Oliver Fries: We moved into the beginning of the meeting.

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CJ Cole: With a minute to go on it at the end.

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Oliver Fries: trying to pull this up.

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CJ Cole: emotion, but I don't know whether that's the original motion or whether that's the motion as it was amended.

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james murez: Can we look at the agenda to see if it's different than what was on the agenda.

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Oliver Fries: yeah let me pull it up as one second.

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CJ Cole: No priority let's get it right.

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CJ Cole: thing that we're going to hear more about about minutes so.

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Oliver Fries: Really.

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CJ Cole: nothing to do with you all over.

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Oliver Fries: Oh yeah.

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CJ Cole: i'm just tired of reading minutes don't.

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Oliver Fries: yeah okay so.

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Oliver Fries: i'm gonna share my screen.

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Oliver Fries: Okay, so these are, this is the agenda.

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Oliver Fries: Item 11 boundary adjustment.

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Oliver Fries: And then my minutes.

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Oliver Fries: Are here.

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Oliver Fries: Right, I have you know, I was actually confused on this and I just I wrote it down as the recording when.

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Oliver Fries: There was a motion amended.

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Oliver Fries: I guess what I should I explain exactly what the Amended motion was just.

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CJ Cole: saying what it was.

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Oliver Fries: yeah I honestly don't I can't remember off the top of my head, but I can update the minutes if that's if that's okay.

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CJ Cole: Okay, because whatever it was.

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CJ Cole: I voted against it, to start with, it looks like and Ivan and I both voted against it i'm a second one so.

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CJ Cole: I don't know.

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james murez: So can we do this, can I make a suggestion.

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james murez: Yes, why don't we postpone this until the next meeting.

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james murez: That bring it will bring it back at the next meeting and and in the meantime.

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james murez: You can go back and look at the transcript or look at the listen to the video and see if you can figure out what the differences and then in the Minutes just underneath where you have X just rewrite it or.

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james murez: Use revision tracking or something and show what the change was.

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Oliver Fries: yeah no problem again it was a little confusing to me so.

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Ivan: Okay i'll second that motion.

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Oliver Fries: Okay, thank you.

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Oliver Fries: Okay, so really more revisit that in the next meeting.

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Oliver Fries: We need to even take a vote on that.

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james murez: I don't think so we're just gonna bring it back next mean it doesn't pass this meeting will just bring it back yeah.

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Oliver Fries: Okay, so.

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Oliver Fries: I will be present that to the next meeting.

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james murez: So the next meeting you'll have two of them one from this meeting.

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james murez: And one okay great yep.

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Oliver Fries: got it okay public comment non agenda items related to rules and selection committee on it.

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Oliver Fries: let's see we don't have any public comment so moving on.

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Oliver Fries: What.

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CJ Cole: We don't have any public.

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Oliver Fries: lucky yeah.

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Oliver Fries: Okay old business there's nothing we're carrying over because we're going to get right into the new business.

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Oliver Fries: Item number five updated bylaws by the bylaws Task Force committee.

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Oliver Fries: Ivan do you want to take it away give the intro and a little overview.

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Ivan: yeah alright so.

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james murez: Ivan that's.

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james murez: yeah this has to turn off Liz has to turn off.

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Ivan: turn off your.

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james murez: Your speaker Elizabeth.

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james murez: know that was your microphone you got to turn off your speaker.

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james murez: mean the other choice Ivan was not.

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james murez: To go into lizabeth and just use her microphone and speaker and in.

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james murez: turn off.

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Elizabeth Wright: My speakers.

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Ivan: talk.

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james murez: yeah now it's fixed Thank you.

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Ivan: hang on a second.

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Ivan: Which is the version.

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Elizabeth Wright: Take it you tell me.

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Oliver Fries: I can, I can just talk on lizard screeners that.

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Ivan: Alright So the first thing I want to do.

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Ivan: I want to make sure that we're all looking at the.

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Ivan: same draft.

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Ivan: Okay.

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james murez: Are you going to put it on the screen, so we get a recording of.

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Ivan: I don't think I can from here, I.

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james murez: From Elizabeth computer.

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Oliver Fries: I can do it.

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james murez: We can all have her do it and you just talk us through it.

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Elizabeth Wright: No.

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Ivan: No she can.

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Ivan: Get that we're looking at.

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james murez: Wait Ivan.

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james murez: Ivan we know we need to get this on as public record can can i'll have her please share his screen.

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james murez: Look at his screen you look at that screen share.

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james murez: And then talk us through it.

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Oliver Fries: And i'm happy to do that, so the latest version is on the dnc websites i'm just pulling that off.

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Oliver Fries: But what.

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Oliver Fries: I should be.

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Oliver Fries: Did post it okay.

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Oliver Fries: For some reason it's not on the website, I thought I posted it but it's going to be an open ended up right here.

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Oliver Fries: me just make sure your comments put them in there.

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Oliver Fries: Okay, this is it okay.

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Ivan: All right.

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Elizabeth Wright: Very good, I have.

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Oliver Fries: So I haven't, this is the version that Liz sent me with her changes and then I add in jim's changes to these and that's, the most recent version i've gotten so I don't know what.

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Elizabeth Wright: Alright, the version that i'm looking at.

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Ivan: It says on the top.

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Ivan: what's the right for.

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Elizabeth Wright: Please make us a good looking at.

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Elizabeth Wright: This what was this.

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Elizabeth Wright: Right.

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james murez: hang on one SEC.

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CJ Cole: Why don't we figure out, which is the latest okay two minutes and email us each a copy of the latest, so we know we're all working on the same thing.

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Ivan: Can you do that.

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james murez: This doesn't happen, it sounds like Oliver hazard.

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Oliver Fries: yeah I have it, this is the one that lives, this was the last one he sent me and then I incorporated jim's comments here, so I don't.

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Elizabeth Wright: Have any friends who version on.

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Elizabeth Wright: Looking at.

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Oliver Fries: Okay.

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james murez: Look we're going to go through it point by.

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Oliver Fries: day and I haven't I haven't fyi that the date updates automatically so that's what you're looking at and don't look at that because here's my have a different date.

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Ivan: Well, how do we tell them.

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Oliver Fries: Well, this set it up, so that every time you open it the data updates, so I wouldn't worry about this top part, I think, maybe I should just hold on to the master copy and i'll make sure that it's always up to date.

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CJ Cole: i'm sorry I cannot vote on them unless I have a copy that I can mark COM.

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Oliver Fries: Okay well i'm pretty sure.

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CJ Cole: How hard, is it just email it.

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Oliver Fries: I already I already emailed this to the whole committees, but let me.

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CJ Cole: make you I never got it.

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Oliver Fries: Let me see here.

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Ivan: copy that.

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Elizabeth Wright: Yes.

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Ivan: Okay.

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Ivan: All right, so.

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Ivan: I have a copy of what you sent out here.

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Ivan: I have a hard copy.

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Oliver Fries: Here cgm 14 this year.

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Oliver Fries: I guess it will say.

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CJ Cole: I read everything almost the instant that I get it great.

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Oliver Fries: cj be much different from the one that you have.

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Oliver Fries: And then you have the updated one.

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CJ Cole: All right, we're gonna vote on something today it's not it shouldn't be much different.

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CJ Cole: i'm actually part of this task force and i've never been included or gotten anything so um it's kind of a one man show.

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james murez: What.

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Ivan: version would sent out by all over.

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CJ Cole: To the entire committee, what was the date.

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Elizabeth Wright: well.

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Ivan: Oliver saying the data.

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CJ Cole: What the.

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CJ Cole: email I have.

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Oliver Fries: A dog i'm talking about the date on the top of the word Doc so cj you have it now.

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CJ Cole: I do not have an email from you, except one, that came in on June 28 which was after the date was changed on the agenda and before that it was on to 27 the last time I got an email from you and I immaculately file things.

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Oliver Fries: yeah I see, I see that, so I sent on to 27 the in the comments that listen with jim's comments incorporated to George Elizabeth German island I reply at all.

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Oliver Fries: You should I yeah I know you should I thought that we are on there, you should have.

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CJ Cole: Something on the 27th but I don't die, then, and he said there's been changes.

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james murez: All over just so we can move forward, can you send that can you just forward her that one message right now.

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Oliver Fries: I already did.

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james murez: Okay cj can you look in your inbox and see you.

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james murez: Know see if you got a message just right now, from all over.

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Oliver Fries: Now okay i'll send it again.

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james murez: Maybe you guys should click refresh or something.

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Oliver Fries: It says it sent it to a minute ago so oh Oh, you know what it went to Venice beach living one second that's why.

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CJ Cole: banner it'll go i'll get it.

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Oliver Fries: let's make sure you have it, and then we can all get fit.

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james murez: And we really just want to follow what's on the screen anyway so.

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CJ Cole: yeah like.

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james murez: Marketing I understood understood you're entitled.

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Oliver Fries: Okay, see I sent it to you via email as well.

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CJ Cole: I on repeating it anywhere okay.

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james murez: give it a second Google account to Google accounts usually pretty quick.

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CJ Cole: On my Google account.

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james murez: No, but your your your.

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james murez: s&c account is.

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CJ Cole: Being forwards.

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james murez: Oh well, that's a whole nother story.

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CJ Cole: The other one should I come to the Venice beach living.

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james murez: yeah that's probably a delay Google delays to sending them to private boxes.

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james murez: But okay why don't we just start going through this and why.

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Ivan: All right, okay yeah.

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Elizabeth Wright: Alright, so what i'm gonna do.

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Ivan: I want to explain what we did.

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Ivan: And then start going through this.

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Ivan: Listen, I have been through this about four or five times, making little corrections.

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Ivan: cj was part of one of those meetings.

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Elizabeth Wright: Oliver was part of one of those.

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Ivan: And i'd like to take this now.

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Ivan: In a words will go through.

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Elizabeth Wright: Each article.

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Ivan: I will tell you what the train does.

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Ivan: Work if anybody.

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Ivan: Has a question in the battery or a suggestion, let us know and we'll add it in.

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Ivan: OK.

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Oliver Fries: OK.

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Ivan: We all got that.

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Ivan: All right.

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Elizabeth Wright: I don't intend to talk about every single line here just the trainer.

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Ivan: All right, so the first one is Article one.

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Ivan: Which is.

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Ivan: name.

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Elizabeth Wright: And I don't think it's going to be any comments from that one.

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Elizabeth Wright: Where the Venice neighborhood council or a particle.

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james murez: Excuse me, can I interrupt for one second Oliver can you scroll and keep up with him.

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Oliver Fries: yeah say thank you.

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Oliver Fries: For an article to.

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Ivan: The only.

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Elizabeth Wright: While know that we're more later on alright.

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Ivan: Section a's okay section B.

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Ivan: The only thing suggested changing is number four.

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Elizabeth Wright: It says.

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Ivan: To be an advocate for vengeance to government.

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Ivan: and private agencies.

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Elizabeth Wright: were not an advocate for private agent.

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CJ Cole: So.

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Ivan: we're saying that training should be deleted.

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james murez: And does it show that way there it doesn't look like it.

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Ivan: Number four.

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Ivan: Venice to government.

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james murez: haha.

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james murez: yeah I see it now over in the right.

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Elizabeth Wright: We wanted to remove.

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Ivan: We want to remove and private agencies.

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Ivan: Perfect all right.

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Elizabeth Wright: Does anybody have a problem with that one.

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Ivan: i'm not hearing anything.

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Elizabeth Wright: i'm going to go on.

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Elizabeth Wright: There were a few things.

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Ivan: We should rethink about.

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Ivan: There were a few things that.

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Elizabeth Wright: got added in here.

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Ivan: And just to explain what's going on done sent us.

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Elizabeth Wright: A template.

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Ivan: For suggested changes.

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Ivan: And they could not specifically for any neighborhood.

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Ivan: they're just generic changes.

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Ivan: Some of these thing mandated that you have to look the same and we'll get to some of those later.

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Ivan: This week just.

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Ivan: ingestion and the wording they had was actually better than what we had so we're suggesting that the group adopt their their train.

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Ivan: Okay.

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Ivan: So let's go to see.

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Elizabeth Wright: policy.

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Ivan: And we're adding in number five number six.

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Ivan: number seven and number eight.

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Elizabeth Wright: This is done.

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james murez: We.

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Ivan: don't have.

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Ivan: To accept things.

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Ivan: But.

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james murez: recommend me, let me know.

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james murez: We didn't interrupt for a moment, if I may.

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james murez: Go on over can you scroll back up a little bit.

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james murez: I don't want the board to get confused when we go to see this can we make the format, with the indentation on the left hand side look as though it is like for above.

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james murez: We don't need to do it right now i'm just saying.

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Oliver Fries: yeah.

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james murez: i'll tell you a principle.

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james murez: I don't want to throw anybody a wrench and saying Oh well, you know it doesn't look the same but let's make it look the same so.

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james murez: don't want to keep it in blue but we wanted to have the same left in dead.

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Oliver Fries: I mean, I can.

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Ivan: Okay.

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james murez: Perfect Thank you.

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Ivan: Please look at the content.

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Elizabeth Wright: 4567 and eight, and let me know you have any problems.

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CJ Cole: You make something out to put these in.

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00:32:58.260 --> 00:32:59.730
CJ Cole: No okay.

453
00:33:05.370 --> 00:33:07.410
Ivan: The additive because.

454
00:33:08.010 --> 00:33:08.850
Ivan: The word.

455
00:33:09.240 --> 00:33:10.950
Ivan: better than anything we had.

456
00:33:11.430 --> 00:33:17.430
james murez: But this was in the version that you sent out right the blue markings are in the version all over that you sent out to everybody correct.

457
00:33:17.640 --> 00:33:18.330
Oliver Fries: Right and.

458
00:33:18.690 --> 00:33:25.320
james murez: we're on the same version I read it already and i'm fine with with all of the blue markings Okay, except where I had.

459
00:33:25.590 --> 00:33:26.580
Elizabeth Wright: anybody else.

460
00:33:28.710 --> 00:33:29.640
Ivan: Any problems.

461
00:33:30.180 --> 00:33:31.890
james murez: No, but I can't see is George still on.

462
00:33:34.080 --> 00:33:34.560
CJ Cole: there.

463
00:33:34.920 --> 00:33:37.380
james murez: he's there okay I can't I just can't see him, in my view.

464
00:33:38.520 --> 00:33:43.440
Oliver Fries: Can you just handle the attendance and stuff because i'm focusing on the document.

465
00:33:43.590 --> 00:33:44.010
perfect.

466
00:33:45.270 --> 00:33:46.860
Ivan: Okay, are we ready.

467
00:33:48.480 --> 00:33:48.960
Oliver Fries: ready.

468
00:33:49.500 --> 00:33:49.770
Ivan: All right.

469
00:33:50.190 --> 00:33:51.750
Elizabeth Wright: The way i'd like to proceed.

470
00:33:51.750 --> 00:33:56.550
Ivan: With this now is I like the Committee.

471
00:33:56.910 --> 00:33:58.020
Ivan: To approve.

472
00:33:58.410 --> 00:33:59.910
Elizabeth Wright: An article, at a time.

473
00:34:00.480 --> 00:34:03.030
Ivan: This way if we don't get all done today.

474
00:34:03.390 --> 00:34:05.190
Ivan: We will come back and things are.

475
00:34:05.190 --> 00:34:06.060
Elizabeth Wright: already been done.

476
00:34:06.090 --> 00:34:07.290
Ivan: We don't go back and.

477
00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:08.310
Ivan: Do them again.

478
00:34:09.390 --> 00:34:09.810
Ivan: All right.

479
00:34:11.520 --> 00:34:14.640
Ivan: Jeff that the committee approve.

480
00:34:19.110 --> 00:34:19.650
Ivan: Article.

481
00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:22.260
Ivan: That whole article.

482
00:34:24.390 --> 00:34:30.300
james murez: Ivan would it work just as easily to just continue to go forward until we find something that we don't approve of, and then it.

483
00:34:30.510 --> 00:34:32.220
Ivan: Will will get too confused.

484
00:34:32.430 --> 00:34:34.770
james murez: Okay, whatever So do you want a motion.

485
00:34:36.210 --> 00:34:37.320
Ivan: yeah we could do them.

486
00:34:37.350 --> 00:34:38.460
Elizabeth Wright: Or, I can just.

487
00:34:38.460 --> 00:34:39.570
Ivan: Make the motions.

488
00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:41.640
Ivan: And you guys.

489
00:34:42.780 --> 00:34:45.120
Oliver Fries: Can we do like a bulk at a time like motion.

490
00:34:45.390 --> 00:34:47.850
Ivan: Well that's what i'm doing but i'm doing.

491
00:34:48.000 --> 00:34:49.440
Ivan: An article, at a time.

492
00:34:50.670 --> 00:34:50.940
Oliver Fries: Okay.

493
00:34:52.050 --> 00:34:52.740
CJ Cole: one.

494
00:34:53.040 --> 00:34:57.780
CJ Cole: Even though there isn't any change article to there was a change.

495
00:34:58.020 --> 00:35:00.330
Ivan: That was things we just added in.

496
00:35:01.530 --> 00:35:04.950
Ivan: traction see 567 and eight.

497
00:35:05.970 --> 00:35:07.770
CJ Cole: yeah no I said, there was.

498
00:35:08.310 --> 00:35:08.580
Elizabeth Wright: yeah.

499
00:35:08.610 --> 00:35:09.840
Ivan: That would you try, I think.

500
00:35:09.900 --> 00:35:14.070
james murez: I haven't I really think you're making this more complicated everybody's in agreement that this is fine.

501
00:35:14.370 --> 00:35:15.300
james murez: let's move on.

502
00:35:15.510 --> 00:35:17.220
Ivan: I know I want to memorialize.

503
00:35:17.580 --> 00:35:19.500
Ivan: him until we don't have to come.

504
00:35:19.500 --> 00:35:20.280
Ivan: back again.

505
00:35:20.460 --> 00:35:27.990
CJ Cole: i'll make a motion of we accept Articles one and two, as presented right now.

506
00:35:28.530 --> 00:35:30.180
james murez: Okay i'll second that.

507
00:35:31.290 --> 00:35:31.710
Oliver Fries: Okay.

508
00:35:32.580 --> 00:35:32.910
Ivan: All right.

509
00:35:35.040 --> 00:35:36.090
Any objection.

510
00:35:38.520 --> 00:35:42.330
Ivan: Okay, so i'll over right make make a note that we've approved articles.

511
00:35:42.330 --> 00:35:42.960
Ivan: one and two.

512
00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:44.220
Okay.

513
00:35:45.300 --> 00:35:45.630
Elizabeth Wright: All right.

514
00:35:45.690 --> 00:35:45.990
Elizabeth Wright: Now.

515
00:35:46.080 --> 00:35:47.280
Articles history.

516
00:35:49.620 --> 00:35:51.810
Ivan: This one, unfortunately.

517
00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:53.100
Ivan: Is up in the air.

518
00:35:54.750 --> 00:35:58.230
Ivan: This this when del rey came to us.

519
00:35:58.530 --> 00:36:00.750
Ivan: And wanted to change the boundaries.

520
00:36:01.320 --> 00:36:03.060
Elizabeth Wright: We have to do it here.

521
00:36:04.350 --> 00:36:04.860
Elizabeth Wright: So.

522
00:36:07.290 --> 00:36:12.240
Elizabeth Wright: and David, we have to train something here and I don't know what we're gonna do.

523
00:36:12.660 --> 00:36:18.210
Ivan: i'm gonna suggest that we postpone Article three, with.

524
00:36:18.240 --> 00:36:21.150
Ivan: Because we still have to negotiate more with.

525
00:36:22.560 --> 00:36:23.100
Ivan: del rey.

526
00:36:23.880 --> 00:36:26.940
james murez: I disagree, we don't have to negotiate.

527
00:36:27.960 --> 00:36:39.300
james murez: I believe that I sent over the correct language to where we can agree with what they are proposing, we can leave it up to the board to decide whether or not we want to or do not want to do that.

528
00:36:39.630 --> 00:36:55.860
james murez: Right okay there's there's no more negotiated they've already told us what they want, we can agree to what they want, and we can put in the proposed revision here and we'll leave it up to the board to decide whether or not the proposed revision is acceptable.

529
00:36:56.130 --> 00:36:59.070
Ivan: there's nothing, what if we don't agree with what they want.

530
00:37:00.330 --> 00:37:07.620
james murez: Then you won't you won't vote for it to agree with it that's all we need to get this before the board, I have, and this is not.

531
00:37:07.980 --> 00:37:08.790
Elizabeth Wright: understand that.

532
00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:09.720
Elizabeth Wright: And they dumped.

533
00:37:10.290 --> 00:37:10.890
Ivan: on us.

534
00:37:11.070 --> 00:37:11.820
Elizabeth Wright: As you.

535
00:37:12.090 --> 00:37:13.860
james murez: were asked the badass.

536
00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:30.960
james murez: us to take it back and to fix the language, where the language read correctly, I wrote that up when I read correctly I don't see my markings in here, it looks like it's in blue, but I did send it to you all over where it described that the Center line when it hit.

537
00:37:32.910 --> 00:37:38.580
james murez: Washington boulevard turned and went out to Lincoln and then south to make sell it, it took out the extra wording.

538
00:37:38.910 --> 00:37:41.010
Oliver Fries: Was that Jim was that on email or was that on.

539
00:37:41.040 --> 00:37:42.120
james murez: What did you put it was in the.

540
00:37:42.120 --> 00:37:45.540
james murez: marked up copy that I sent you back I corrected the language.

541
00:37:45.810 --> 00:37:50.700
George Francisco: And you've marked up copy Oliver i'm making a motion to accept the changes Article three.

542
00:37:50.730 --> 00:37:52.320
George Francisco: somebody wants a second thing go ahead.

543
00:37:52.530 --> 00:37:55.140
james murez: i'll second all second to George Thank you, but if you.

544
00:37:55.140 --> 00:37:56.370
George Francisco: want to walk it up here it's.

545
00:37:56.370 --> 00:37:57.690
james murez: very easy to do.

546
00:37:58.200 --> 00:37:59.160
james murez: It comes out.

547
00:37:59.340 --> 00:38:00.390
james murez: On on.

548
00:38:01.890 --> 00:38:04.140
james murez: It stop moving the screen I can't read it, if you do.

549
00:38:06.120 --> 00:38:07.170
james murez: um.

550
00:38:08.280 --> 00:38:13.200
james murez: Name changes at Washington boulevard south of Washington boulevard don't really have any south to Maxwell.

551
00:38:14.790 --> 00:38:19.560
james murez: So to Washington okay so where it says in the.

552
00:38:20.970 --> 00:38:32.670
james murez: three lines up from the bottom, it says south to Washington boulevard then comma del rey avenue south to maxell you take out where it says.

553
00:38:35.490 --> 00:38:35.850
Oliver Fries: For.

554
00:38:36.030 --> 00:38:37.050
james murez: He moved it again so.

555
00:38:37.050 --> 00:38:38.130
Oliver Fries: I don't know why that happened.

556
00:38:38.130 --> 00:38:38.370
Oliver Fries: So.

557
00:38:38.430 --> 00:38:40.230
james murez: I don't know either okay all right it's.

558
00:38:41.760 --> 00:38:42.090
Oliver Fries: Okay.

559
00:38:42.480 --> 00:38:43.950
james murez: Take out you take out.

560
00:38:45.030 --> 00:38:49.920
james murez: Where the calm, it says comma del rey starting a comma del rey.

561
00:38:53.130 --> 00:39:03.720
james murez: And then on the next line down, it says west to Lincoln boulevard you take out everything from del rey up to the West, the West stays and not, no, no, you took out too much.

562
00:39:05.730 --> 00:39:09.690
james murez: That right there you delete that part with revision tracking on it it'll be correct.

563
00:39:14.160 --> 00:39:30.540
james murez: So now what's happening is they're going South on walnut until they get to Washington and then on Washington they're going west to Lincoln and on Lincoln they're going south to the border of Marina del rey and that now reads correctly.

564
00:39:31.560 --> 00:39:41.580
james murez: We have now relinquished that portion which del rey is asking for this is now the correct revision revised language.

565
00:39:43.290 --> 00:39:43.800
james murez: Okay.

566
00:39:44.220 --> 00:39:44.880
Oliver Fries: sounds good.

567
00:39:45.720 --> 00:39:47.550
james murez: Georgia is that OK, with your amendment.

568
00:39:53.790 --> 00:39:56.010
james murez: George wanna unmute you made the motion.

569
00:39:57.390 --> 00:39:57.960
Ivan: foundry.

570
00:40:05.580 --> 00:40:06.630
Ivan: You turn the volume.

571
00:40:07.890 --> 00:40:09.060
Ivan: I don't think so.

572
00:40:14.310 --> 00:40:14.970
Ivan: Greg about.

573
00:40:18.660 --> 00:40:20.160
Ivan: soccer better slider could get.

574
00:40:24.180 --> 00:40:36.150
George Francisco: Oliver we have we have a motion to approve the language is presented an article three gym second in it, if anybody has any opposition wanted to ask for them or take a vote.

575
00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:44.130
Oliver Fries: Okay, and so on the previous articles, we didn't take a vote can we just approve this Milan, or do we take a vote on all these.

576
00:40:44.550 --> 00:40:47.880
George Francisco: If there's no opposition there was no opposition to the first two.

577
00:40:47.970 --> 00:40:49.530
George Francisco: Motion so was unanimous so.

578
00:40:49.530 --> 00:40:51.090
Oliver Fries: Yes, any opposition.

579
00:40:51.120 --> 00:40:51.780
George Francisco: Then we should.

580
00:40:52.560 --> 00:40:53.460
CJ Cole: I oppose.

581
00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:55.050
George Francisco: Okay, there you go.

582
00:40:55.230 --> 00:40:56.250
Oliver Fries: To jail cell.

583
00:40:57.480 --> 00:40:58.650
CJ Cole: have a problem with it.

584
00:40:59.580 --> 00:41:00.210
Oliver Fries: worse.

585
00:41:01.140 --> 00:41:06.750
Ivan: Okay yeah and you know what i'm not in favor of this either they haven't given us enough.

586
00:41:06.750 --> 00:41:15.900
CJ Cole: Information so it's just I think we should leave it the way it is, and if they do get around to making the change, then we have to change our bylaws.

587
00:41:17.220 --> 00:41:19.830
james murez: Well we'll have to wait another two years is the problem.

588
00:41:21.120 --> 00:41:22.650
CJ Cole: Maybe they just wait.

589
00:41:25.290 --> 00:41:25.590
Elizabeth Wright: What.

590
00:41:25.680 --> 00:41:27.090
james murez: If we if we do.

591
00:41:28.560 --> 00:41:28.920
james murez: either.

592
00:41:29.040 --> 00:41:29.640
Elizabeth Wright: I can't.

593
00:41:30.180 --> 00:41:31.470
james murez: You gotta have your ECHO going.

594
00:41:32.580 --> 00:41:32.670
Ivan: On.

595
00:41:35.100 --> 00:41:46.230
james murez: This I can hear you let me, let me have a chance to explain if the board so us which they did to make the language read correctly that's what we're responsible to do the language now reads correctly.

596
00:41:47.850 --> 00:41:53.550
james murez: we're not taking a position on whether or not it should or should not be revised that's going to be up to the board.

597
00:41:53.820 --> 00:41:54.420
CJ Cole: that's right.

598
00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:58.470
CJ Cole: But the language right, but until they make that decision.

599
00:41:58.590 --> 00:42:13.620
james murez: But the blur now we if we now pass this the language reads correctly to go along with what del rey is asking if the board rejects it, then it will go back to the way it was.

600
00:42:14.100 --> 00:42:14.580
OK.

601
00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:32.280
james murez: OK all we're doing is trying to put the corrected language before the board, so we took out the part that put that ad that that that we currently have at it now moves the border to where del rey is asking that's all we're asking to do.

602
00:42:34.200 --> 00:42:48.210
james murez: And if you have a problem with the language tell me what the problem is, in other words we're going South on walnut until we get to Washington boulevard then we're traveling West on Washington boulevard until we get to Lincoln and then we're going South on Lincoln until we get.

603
00:42:48.300 --> 00:42:50.280
Ivan: It all right all right we've got all that.

604
00:42:50.580 --> 00:42:51.030
Ivan: Okay.

605
00:42:51.510 --> 00:42:55.680
james murez: All right language, I believe, is correct, and now we have done with the board asks.

606
00:42:56.700 --> 00:42:58.530
james murez: How can we take a vote and move on.

607
00:42:58.770 --> 00:42:59.220
Elizabeth Wright: All right.

608
00:43:01.350 --> 00:43:02.670
Ivan: However, you want to take a vote on.

609
00:43:02.670 --> 00:43:03.000
This.

610
00:43:04.020 --> 00:43:04.470
Oliver Fries: sure.

611
00:43:06.390 --> 00:43:14.760
Oliver Fries: Article three, everybody in an article three, to prove this, I need to pull up my agenda, so I can read off the names.

612
00:43:15.660 --> 00:43:17.250
Okay, I had one question.

613
00:43:20.190 --> 00:43:21.300
Ivan: Before taking notes.

614
00:43:21.780 --> 00:43:22.530
Oliver Fries: Okay, go ahead.

615
00:43:26.580 --> 00:43:27.150
Oliver Fries: Go ahead.

616
00:43:28.470 --> 00:43:28.740
Ivan: Mike.

617
00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:31.230
Elizabeth Wright: My question has to do with the.

618
00:43:31.860 --> 00:43:33.450
Ivan: general description of.

619
00:43:35.160 --> 00:43:35.370
Elizabeth Wright: The.

620
00:43:35.400 --> 00:43:37.470
Ivan: Traditional boundaries of balanced.

621
00:43:41.460 --> 00:43:41.910
Oliver Fries: Okay.

622
00:43:42.480 --> 00:43:42.900
That.

623
00:43:44.580 --> 00:43:46.200
Elizabeth Wright: zenda to wall growth.

624
00:43:48.810 --> 00:43:50.430
Elizabeth Wright: it's the traditional boundary.

625
00:44:06.720 --> 00:44:08.550
Oliver Fries: i'm not sure how to answer that question.

626
00:44:08.850 --> 00:44:10.860
james murez: yeah I don't even know what question you're asking.

627
00:44:11.430 --> 00:44:12.540
Elizabeth Wright: Okay nevermind.

628
00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:18.420
james murez: i'm not i'm not following you is, I want to, I want to understand that.

629
00:44:19.320 --> 00:44:20.730
Ivan: that's okay all right.

630
00:44:20.940 --> 00:44:24.210
james murez: let's see Angela west to walnut and then walnut.

631
00:44:25.380 --> 00:44:33.630
james murez: to Washington that I mean we're not changing anything there that's how it was before it was wrong before it still run now it's I mean I didn't even look at that.

632
00:44:35.310 --> 00:44:37.140
Elizabeth Wright: Okay, there must be good.

633
00:44:38.370 --> 00:44:38.880
james murez: Okay.

634
00:44:40.710 --> 00:44:43.230
Oliver Fries: yeah so we're taking a vote on.

635
00:44:44.340 --> 00:44:46.380
Oliver Fries: The languages, it shows on the screen.

636
00:44:48.150 --> 00:44:48.870
Oliver Fries: right here.

637
00:44:51.600 --> 00:44:55.020
Oliver Fries: i'm going to pull up any the agenda, so I can predict today.

638
00:44:59.520 --> 00:45:00.870
Oliver Fries: All of her freeze.

639
00:45:02.280 --> 00:45:03.090
Oliver Fries: know.

640
00:45:04.410 --> 00:45:05.490
Oliver Fries: George Francisco.

641
00:45:06.660 --> 00:45:07.200
George Francisco: Yes.

642
00:45:08.850 --> 00:45:10.950
Oliver Fries: daffodils not here cj.

643
00:45:11.370 --> 00:45:11.700
Oh.

644
00:45:17.040 --> 00:45:17.490
Ivan: Yes.

645
00:45:18.990 --> 00:45:19.650
Oliver Fries: I then.

646
00:45:20.100 --> 00:45:20.550
No.

647
00:45:23.070 --> 00:45:23.700
james murez: Yes.

648
00:45:24.990 --> 00:45:26.100
Oliver Fries: Okay, so that's.

649
00:45:28.320 --> 00:45:29.880
Oliver Fries: Three s's in three nose.

650
00:45:30.660 --> 00:45:31.290
james murez: So the nose.

651
00:45:31.320 --> 00:45:32.670
Ivan: Right, then the motion fail.

652
00:45:33.870 --> 00:45:36.090
james murez: Oliver, why are you objecting to the language.

653
00:45:36.330 --> 00:45:36.960
Elizabeth Wright: No, no.

654
00:45:37.050 --> 00:45:38.460
Elizabeth Wright: No, no, no don't do that.

655
00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:39.330
Ivan: Why.

656
00:45:40.170 --> 00:45:41.460
Elizabeth Wright: Because the discussion is.

657
00:45:41.460 --> 00:45:45.000
Ivan: Over we took a vote, he shouldn't have to defend themselves.

658
00:45:45.660 --> 00:45:53.160
Oliver Fries: I mean honestly it's just unclear to me they want me to walk the site with them, I I just I don't understand the motives behind it, so I just I just.

659
00:45:53.190 --> 00:46:05.250
james murez: Thought oh we're not looking at the motive behind it that'll come before us when it's the board that's what I was afraid you were voting on we're only voting on whether or not the language now reflects what they're asking for.

660
00:46:05.730 --> 00:46:06.990
Oliver Fries: Okay um.

661
00:46:08.340 --> 00:46:12.540
Oliver Fries: I guess if it's still going to go to the board, then, can I can I go back to yes, I mean.

662
00:46:12.690 --> 00:46:13.710
George Francisco: Yes, you can change your.

663
00:46:13.710 --> 00:46:14.250
Oliver Fries: path okay.

664
00:46:15.300 --> 00:46:19.470
Oliver Fries: It should be discussed with the board, and I don't want it to just go dead I just I just did it.

665
00:46:19.680 --> 00:46:20.010
james murez: Right.

666
00:46:20.100 --> 00:46:20.430
Oliver Fries: I don't i'm.

667
00:46:20.640 --> 00:46:23.160
Elizabeth Wright: Not over everything we do is going to the.

668
00:46:23.160 --> 00:46:23.490
board.

669
00:46:25.110 --> 00:46:28.530
Oliver Fries: Right Okay, yes okay I vote yes, so it passes.

670
00:46:29.010 --> 00:46:31.740
Oliver Fries: Okay, to for further discussion so okay.

671
00:46:31.830 --> 00:46:32.190
Elizabeth Wright: All right.

672
00:46:32.670 --> 00:46:34.980
Oliver Fries: We keep going yes good let's keep going.

673
00:46:36.120 --> 00:46:36.510
Ivan: alright.

674
00:46:36.900 --> 00:46:37.470
Ivan: The next.

675
00:46:37.500 --> 00:46:39.240
james murez: Article oh excuse a.

676
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james murez: colder excuse me, let me interrupt for one second before we do you take public comment on the last thing we just had somebody.

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james murez: enter the meeting that might have had their hand up I didn't notice.

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james murez: rob I did you want to make any public comment on the language that was on the prior item.

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james murez: you'd need to unmute yourself if you wanted to talk.

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Week.

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Ravi Sankaran: yeah this is Robbie saying Karen from the neighborhood Council and yeah I just saw that that does reflect what we were thinking that's accurate that went down to reflect the change that we were requesting consideration for your board.

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james murez: Okay, all right, thank you, I just didn't want to exclude you from having public comment on the item we just voted on.

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james murez: So we already know we already voted on it and it.

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00:47:27.630 --> 00:47:35.430
james murez: passed so will it'll come back to the board with the revised language it'll be up to the board to decide whether or not they want to adopt it or not adopted.

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Ravi Sankaran: Okay.

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00:47:37.170 --> 00:47:37.950
Ivan: Can we move on.

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00:47:38.340 --> 00:47:39.570
james murez: yep Thank you Robbie.

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00:47:40.020 --> 00:47:43.140
Elizabeth Wright: Alright, the next thing is stakeholder.

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Ivan: In going through this and, most of you probably know, this already.

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Ivan: we've.

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Elizabeth Wright: been forced.

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Ivan: To have.

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Elizabeth Wright: Two different classes of stakeholder.

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Ivan: One is are.

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Elizabeth Wright: Just regular stakeholder.

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Ivan: you live, work you own property.

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or.

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00:48:10.110 --> 00:48:11.580
Elizabeth Wright: You belong to a.

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Ivan: No, no that's the other one.

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Right live working on property.

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Elizabeth Wright: The second one is community.

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00:48:17.520 --> 00:48:21.000
Elizabeth Wright: Interest stakeholder which were required to have.

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Ivan: By the city council.

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Ivan: And this is to allow people that don't live work around property.

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Ivan: That might have a stake in the neighborhood to be able to basically run for the board.

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00:48:34.680 --> 00:48:35.220
Ivan: Okay.

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Ivan: And what we did is loose took this and fleshed it out.

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Ivan: So it's better defined of what so.

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Ivan: You know.

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where we are.

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00:48:48.660 --> 00:48:51.810
Elizabeth Wright: Okay, so please number one is fine.

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00:48:52.800 --> 00:48:53.850
Number two.

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00:48:55.620 --> 00:48:58.350
Elizabeth Wright: We spoke at this language, make sure it's okay.

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Elizabeth Wright: And then we took out a bunch of stuff at the end.

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00:49:04.680 --> 00:49:08.370
Ivan: Oh actually moved it we didn't take it out, we moved it.

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00:49:13.290 --> 00:49:16.470
james murez: I guess i'm not understanding when you say number two.

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00:49:17.610 --> 00:49:19.290
Elizabeth Wright: Oh it's article for.

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00:49:20.190 --> 00:49:21.690
Ivan: And then section one.

719
00:49:21.720 --> 00:49:23.100
Elizabeth Wright: To one in parentheses.

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00:49:23.190 --> 00:49:24.300
james murez: Oh OK OK.

721
00:49:25.620 --> 00:49:26.070
Oliver Fries: OK.

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00:49:26.190 --> 00:49:28.890
james murez: OK so scroll back down to where we can see all of to if you could.

723
00:49:29.910 --> 00:49:33.630
james murez: have one there's no change there's two coming up perfect right there.

724
00:49:36.630 --> 00:49:41.850
james murez: And this was in the version you sent out Oliver yes okay i'm not going to reread it I already approved.

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00:49:50.010 --> 00:49:50.850
Oliver Fries: Okay, was there.

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00:49:52.890 --> 00:49:56.160
CJ Cole: Is this the definition of stakeholder does that come out.

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00:49:57.900 --> 00:49:59.130
Ivan: i'm sure what she drink.

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00:49:59.310 --> 00:50:09.840
CJ Cole: Paragraph it's in some kind of brackets, the definition of stakeholder is defined by the city ordinance that doesn't have to be in there as.

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00:50:13.500 --> 00:50:15.480
Ivan: Well, it doesn't have to be.

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Ivan: But we felt it would be better for everybody if.

731
00:50:18.150 --> 00:50:20.970
Elizabeth Wright: They knew that that was a city council ordinance.

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Ivan: And we can't change it.

733
00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:30.900
Oliver Fries: That has to be in there.

734
00:50:31.350 --> 00:50:31.950
CJ Cole: Everything will.

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Ivan: Be in a city wide definition.

736
00:50:35.370 --> 00:50:36.750
CJ Cole: I realized, it was.

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CJ Cole: A with a definition we did.

738
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Right.

739
00:50:43.470 --> 00:50:43.860
james murez: I guess.

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00:50:45.030 --> 00:50:46.530
Elizabeth Wright: The reference to the city.

741
00:50:46.530 --> 00:50:47.280
Elizabeth Wright: ordinance should.

742
00:50:47.340 --> 00:50:47.940
come out.

743
00:50:50.790 --> 00:50:58.290
james murez: Are you having a problem because it's not defined within this document, or are you having a problem because we don't want to have a.

744
00:50:58.350 --> 00:51:00.450
CJ Cole: problem because I don't think we need it.

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00:51:01.080 --> 00:51:02.970
james murez: What is it that you don't think we need.

746
00:51:03.690 --> 00:51:08.310
CJ Cole: We have the definition of a stakeholder up under one.

747
00:51:09.390 --> 00:51:13.500
CJ Cole: And we don't need to know why that's you know I mean.

748
00:51:13.860 --> 00:51:15.750
james murez: Wait hold on all of your stop right there.

749
00:51:15.870 --> 00:51:16.530
Oliver Fries: she's she's.

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00:51:16.560 --> 00:51:34.620
james murez: so proud of all stakeholders stakeholders Shelby define defined as an individual who, and then it goes on, but see the problem is, is that that definition of the stakeholder under number one is not as inclusive as what the City Council has made into a code.

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00:51:37.980 --> 00:51:45.630
james murez: So we've summarized we've summarized it under parentheses one to say it's somebody who lives works or owns property.

752
00:51:46.230 --> 00:51:48.360
CJ Cole: In there what's the city says it should be.

753
00:51:48.960 --> 00:51:53.400
james murez: But what i'm saying is is that the city goes on to also define, for instance, the.

754
00:51:53.400 --> 00:51:59.550
james murez: Stakeholders as a homeless person living on the street, and we have to follow that rule.

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00:52:00.630 --> 00:52:01.860
CJ Cole: Why hasn't it in there.

756
00:52:02.430 --> 00:52:05.880
james murez: Well, because he's what Oliver is or Ivan has done.

757
00:52:06.150 --> 00:52:06.630
james murez: Is they've.

758
00:52:06.840 --> 00:52:11.400
james murez: included it by reference to the document that specifies it.

759
00:52:11.850 --> 00:52:12.930
CJ Cole: Okay, whenever.

760
00:52:14.220 --> 00:52:21.000
CJ Cole: Then it's going to be after you know it should be a bracket within one and not at the bottom.

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00:52:21.300 --> 00:52:28.350
james murez: You that would make a certain amount of sense, I agree, can we move that can we move that one bracketed item up to number one.

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00:52:29.640 --> 00:52:30.720
Elizabeth Wright: Does everybody which one.

763
00:52:31.410 --> 00:52:33.240
james murez: right there that Oliver just highlighted.

764
00:52:33.510 --> 00:52:34.770
CJ Cole: I don't know why it's brad.

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00:52:35.160 --> 00:52:35.910
Elizabeth Wright: I don't know, can you.

766
00:52:35.970 --> 00:52:36.360
Ivan: read it.

767
00:52:37.770 --> 00:52:39.840
Oliver Fries: want me to move it I can put it right here.

768
00:52:40.500 --> 00:52:42.330
james murez: scroll back down let Ivan read it.

769
00:52:42.630 --> 00:52:44.010
Elizabeth Wright: Okay we're in word what.

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00:52:44.790 --> 00:52:47.490
james murez: Is that portion right there on the screen that's bracketed.

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00:52:50.040 --> 00:52:52.080
james murez: Oliver has highlighted in blue.

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00:52:52.470 --> 00:52:54.570
Ivan: And Okay, and you want to move back to where.

773
00:52:54.810 --> 00:52:56.160
james murez: underneath number one.

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00:52:56.310 --> 00:53:01.050
james murez: which would be more appropriate because number two is really about the Community interest officer.

775
00:53:01.560 --> 00:53:02.250
james murez: Number One.

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00:53:03.180 --> 00:53:03.930
stakeholder.

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00:53:05.310 --> 00:53:05.790
james murez: cj.

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00:53:08.280 --> 00:53:10.230
Elizabeth Wright: I suggest living it.

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00:53:10.260 --> 00:53:10.680
Under.

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00:53:12.060 --> 00:53:12.630
Elizabeth Wright: Article.

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00:53:12.660 --> 00:53:13.740
For stakeholders.

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00:53:18.060 --> 00:53:18.540
james murez: Well, but.

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00:53:18.600 --> 00:53:18.840
Ivan: Does.

784
00:53:18.990 --> 00:53:19.380
Ivan: That make.

785
00:53:19.470 --> 00:53:28.020
james murez: More sense, what does it say number four is is a Community interest stakeholder the way the screen currently looks.

786
00:53:29.460 --> 00:53:33.270
james murez: Number four is a Community interest stakeholder.

787
00:53:35.550 --> 00:53:37.650
Oliver Fries: it's really Jim it's really too so.

788
00:53:38.430 --> 00:53:39.030
james murez: Okay, so.

789
00:53:40.410 --> 00:53:40.830
I was.

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00:53:41.940 --> 00:53:44.760
Elizabeth Wright: stakeholder ambience related terms.

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Ivan: belong.

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00:53:46.800 --> 00:53:53.790
Elizabeth Wright: Under Article for before you get into which flavor stakeholder.

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00:53:53.790 --> 00:53:54.660
Ivan: you're talking about.

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00:53:55.020 --> 00:53:57.720
james murez: Okay, can you scroll up a little bit Oliver.

795
00:53:57.840 --> 00:54:01.650
Oliver Fries: yeah you know what, let me just zoom out a little bit, we can see it all at once.

796
00:54:01.740 --> 00:54:02.550
Oliver Fries: Okay, there you go.

797
00:54:04.290 --> 00:54:05.670
Oliver Fries: that's big enough for you to see.

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james murez: So article for yeah it should be under Article for.

799
00:54:09.450 --> 00:54:11.340
Oliver Fries: It is rice ball under Article for.

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00:54:11.340 --> 00:54:12.150
Oliver Fries: right but.

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james murez: yeah that's all article for, but I think I think what Liz is saying is if we move it up to above before the parentheses one, it would already define what a stakeholder is.

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00:54:26.100 --> 00:54:27.720
Oliver Fries: say that you want to put it above.

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00:54:28.080 --> 00:54:38.400
james murez: yeah I think it should be a bad thing I think cj was right it doesn't belong under Community interest stakeholder it belongs, at the very beginning, this is the city's definition, this is what we have to follow it.

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00:54:39.540 --> 00:54:45.420
CJ Cole: really needs to be for need to be a sentence in the middle, because.

805
00:54:46.650 --> 00:54:55.020
Ivan: fittings definition applied to both regular stakeholder and Community interest they cover.

806
00:54:55.140 --> 00:54:56.580
james murez: The whole thing that's right.

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00:54:57.480 --> 00:55:00.030
Oliver Fries: Okay, so i'm just going to.

808
00:55:00.960 --> 00:55:01.680
Ivan: Be featuring.

809
00:55:01.920 --> 00:55:05.280
Ivan: Rather than having get under Community interest.

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00:55:05.520 --> 00:55:06.930
Elizabeth Wright: It sure and above everything.

811
00:55:07.290 --> 00:55:10.320
Oliver Fries: Correct now it's correct, it should be, I mean I could I can.

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00:55:11.250 --> 00:55:15.780
CJ Cole: You got a sentence and ends in a colon depending on where you put it.

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00:55:16.740 --> 00:55:20.760
james murez: Okay, we don't let we can worry about punctuation later let's just get in the right place first.

814
00:55:21.480 --> 00:55:24.150
Oliver Fries: It isn't the right place, obviously there's a page break here but.

815
00:55:24.270 --> 00:55:25.680
james murez: yeah we'll worry about.

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00:55:25.770 --> 00:55:27.990
Oliver Fries: pagination later it's in the right spot.

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00:55:28.080 --> 00:55:29.370
james murez: yeah now it's in the right spot.

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00:55:29.400 --> 00:55:31.680
james murez: Now you're saying there's a colon at the end of number one.

819
00:55:32.880 --> 00:55:35.670
CJ Cole: Others a colon at the end of the first paragraph.

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00:55:37.470 --> 00:55:40.410
CJ Cole: Which is before and.

821
00:55:41.040 --> 00:55:42.720
james murez: After the individual who.

822
00:55:43.560 --> 00:55:46.020
Oliver Fries: that's right they should that makes sense.

823
00:55:47.640 --> 00:55:48.510
Oliver Fries: Sorry you're talking about.

824
00:55:48.990 --> 00:55:54.420
CJ Cole: yeah so another word, and it really can be inserted before that sentence.

825
00:56:01.050 --> 00:56:02.370
Oliver Fries: So you want to put it right here.

826
00:56:02.940 --> 00:56:06.660
CJ Cole: Yes, I know I can't see yours so i'm looking at mine.

827
00:56:06.690 --> 00:56:08.220
Oliver Fries: Was you want to put it right there too.

828
00:56:08.400 --> 00:56:10.800
CJ Cole: Yes, oh, I want to play it right there.

829
00:56:11.940 --> 00:56:13.740
Oliver Fries: I see what you're saying, because then it.

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00:56:15.030 --> 00:56:22.980
Oliver Fries: Then it references near neighborhood Council, so we put the city's definition first and then we put our neighborhood Council definition second because that basically you're saying.

831
00:56:23.370 --> 00:56:41.520
CJ Cole: Well i'm saying neighborhood Council membership is open to all stakeholders barrier and then the definition from the city or whatever, and then the third sentence this a stakeholders, how we define and then is just needs to be inserted in the middle.

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00:56:43.290 --> 00:56:45.330
james murez: So, after the word stakeholder before.

833
00:56:46.680 --> 00:56:47.370
CJ Cole: Yes.

834
00:56:47.550 --> 00:56:47.820
Elizabeth Wright: Okay.

835
00:56:47.850 --> 00:56:50.520
Elizabeth Wright: we're spending a lot of time on something that doesn't make.

836
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A whole lot of difference.

837
00:56:53.340 --> 00:56:56.250
james murez: yeah let's let's get it right everybody will be happier if we.

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00:56:56.250 --> 00:56:57.090
Oliver Fries: want to try that.

839
00:56:59.340 --> 00:57:00.120
james murez: Try and Oliver.

840
00:57:00.570 --> 00:57:05.730
CJ Cole: formatting problems in this section anyway, so if you don't get started right you're never.

841
00:57:05.730 --> 00:57:06.990
james murez: going to format it right, I.

842
00:57:07.020 --> 00:57:10.530
Oliver Fries: Will I can format it I wouldn't worry about that, but.

843
00:57:12.210 --> 00:57:14.220
james murez: But now the a can go up to the sentence there.

844
00:57:14.220 --> 00:57:14.520
Oliver Fries: yeah.

845
00:57:15.360 --> 00:57:17.130
james murez: There you go perfect so.

846
00:57:18.360 --> 00:57:18.750
Oliver Fries: they're.

847
00:57:19.050 --> 00:57:19.560
perfect.

848
00:57:20.850 --> 00:57:21.210
james murez: Okay.

849
00:57:21.240 --> 00:57:22.170
Oliver Fries: Now let's keep going.

850
00:57:22.200 --> 00:57:23.430
james murez: Now we're all in agreement.

851
00:57:24.270 --> 00:57:25.020
Oliver Fries: like this.

852
00:57:27.390 --> 00:57:27.900
Ivan: Okay.

853
00:57:28.320 --> 00:57:28.650
Oliver Fries: I can't.

854
00:57:28.950 --> 00:57:30.570
james murez: respond I.

855
00:57:30.900 --> 00:57:32.490
james murez: Did we accept Article for.

856
00:57:32.610 --> 00:57:33.960
Ivan: As present oh not yet.

857
00:57:35.400 --> 00:57:35.820
james murez: Okay.

858
00:57:36.390 --> 00:57:37.770
Ivan: There was born in the next page.

859
00:57:38.070 --> 00:57:39.060
Elizabeth Wright: Alright, so.

860
00:57:40.020 --> 00:57:41.460
Go past the green.

861
00:57:43.080 --> 00:57:46.230
Elizabeth Wright: And now there's a paragraph in red.

862
00:57:46.560 --> 00:57:48.360
Elizabeth Wright: that's been crossed out.

863
00:57:49.560 --> 00:57:50.640
Elizabeth Wright: It was a.

864
00:57:50.940 --> 00:57:52.710
Elizabeth Wright: And that whole thing is crossed out.

865
00:57:54.180 --> 00:57:54.750
james murez: I mean I don't.

866
00:57:55.200 --> 00:57:56.460
Ivan: Know truces to.

867
00:57:56.670 --> 00:58:01.410
Ivan: They registered may become a voting Member you'll see that paragraph.

868
00:58:01.890 --> 00:58:03.720
CJ Cole: No, are you.

869
00:58:04.770 --> 00:58:05.550
Elizabeth Wright: Out there was.

870
00:58:05.700 --> 00:58:10.470
Oliver Fries: No it's not crossed out it's it's it's um there's no nothing crossed out.

871
00:58:10.530 --> 00:58:14.100
CJ Cole: Under high for shell.

872
00:58:15.900 --> 00:58:19.770
Elizabeth Wright: All right, hang on hang on a minute stay closer trying.

873
00:58:20.310 --> 00:58:20.580
Oliver Fries: guys.

874
00:58:20.760 --> 00:58:22.770
Elizabeth Wright: Many as a restaurant is timeless.

875
00:58:23.340 --> 00:58:23.940
Oliver Fries: Be right back.

876
00:58:24.690 --> 00:58:26.010
Elizabeth Wright: This paragraph is.

877
00:58:26.010 --> 00:58:27.090
Elizabeth Wright: gone about the voting.

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00:58:27.090 --> 00:58:27.570
Member.

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00:58:30.600 --> 00:58:34.020
james murez: Well Oliver runs to the restaurant, may I ask you a question Ivan.

880
00:58:34.590 --> 00:58:36.300
Ivan: yeah, this is a.

881
00:58:36.900 --> 00:58:39.450
james murez: different topic let's let's so we keep things moving.

882
00:58:40.680 --> 00:58:52.950
james murez: I mentioned to you do we have a a paragraph that defines when a Community interest officer resigns or drops off.

883
00:58:53.010 --> 00:58:53.580
Ivan: and get there.

884
00:58:54.090 --> 00:58:56.310
james murez: Okay, so is that that has that's.

885
00:58:56.340 --> 00:59:01.650
Ivan: I don't I don't know if it's been edited in yet, but it's on my list of things to talk about.

886
00:59:01.890 --> 00:59:03.660
james murez: But does it would it go in here.

887
00:59:04.350 --> 00:59:05.790
Ivan: No, because that has to do.

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00:59:05.790 --> 00:59:06.510
Elizabeth Wright: With a question.

889
00:59:06.660 --> 00:59:07.950
james murez: Okay, thank you, you answered.

890
00:59:08.010 --> 00:59:08.190
or.

891
00:59:10.680 --> 00:59:12.600
james murez: You said no that's all I was asking.

892
00:59:14.430 --> 00:59:15.030
james murez: good enough.

893
00:59:19.050 --> 00:59:20.040
Elizabeth Wright: oliver's back right.

894
00:59:21.720 --> 00:59:22.080
Ivan: Right.

895
00:59:24.060 --> 00:59:26.400
james murez: So we took out a paragraph and nobody's missing it.

896
00:59:27.000 --> 00:59:29.280
Elizabeth Wright: it's moved to article 10.

897
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Okay.

898
00:59:32.400 --> 00:59:32.880
james murez: All right, let's.

899
00:59:33.330 --> 00:59:37.140
Elizabeth Wright: Have a category called voting Member and done so we couldn't do.

900
00:59:39.780 --> 00:59:40.770
Elizabeth Wright: This thing came out.

901
00:59:43.980 --> 00:59:45.060
Elizabeth Wright: stakeholder right.

902
00:59:46.860 --> 00:59:47.250
CJ Cole: Why.

903
00:59:48.750 --> 00:59:50.670
CJ Cole: Why is that section eight.

904
00:59:53.040 --> 00:59:54.840
Ivan: that's it was the second area.

905
00:59:54.900 --> 00:59:56.280
Ivan: that's what we deleted.

906
00:59:58.680 --> 01:00:02.220
Oliver Fries: Okay, I see what she wants it should be section be.

907
01:00:03.930 --> 01:00:05.760
CJ Cole: Second, mean the.

908
01:00:06.240 --> 01:00:07.260
Ivan: whole group right.

909
01:00:08.310 --> 01:00:09.780
Ivan: should now be section.

910
01:00:09.870 --> 01:00:10.260
A.

911
01:00:12.180 --> 01:00:13.170
james murez: Well, it says.

912
01:00:13.230 --> 01:00:15.660
james murez: A above Community organization.

913
01:00:15.930 --> 01:00:19.230
Oliver Fries: Oh that's just that's just the first.

914
01:00:19.650 --> 01:00:20.940
james murez: The first letter okay.

915
01:00:21.000 --> 01:00:22.530
Oliver Fries: first word in the paragraph.

916
01:00:22.680 --> 01:00:24.480
james murez: yeah so now, you need.

917
01:00:27.210 --> 01:00:30.630
CJ Cole: A capital a needs to be above a one.

918
01:00:31.620 --> 01:00:31.920
Ivan: All right.

919
01:00:32.310 --> 01:00:33.810
Elizabeth Wright: let's stop please.

920
01:00:34.680 --> 01:00:35.100
Ivan: All right.

921
01:00:35.130 --> 01:00:36.180
let's keep going.

922
01:00:38.640 --> 01:00:44.640
Ivan: Alright, the next section we're going to talk about is called stakeholders rights.

923
01:00:45.570 --> 01:00:47.460
Ivan: And what you can get letter a.

924
01:00:48.060 --> 01:00:50.310
Ivan: Extraction day or what you know.

925
01:00:51.660 --> 01:00:59.730
Ivan: stakeholder right stakeholders and we ended in and Community interest stakeholders cohabited.

926
01:00:59.760 --> 01:01:04.350
Elizabeth Wright: Minimum the following right, so all we did is we were, including.

927
01:01:04.380 --> 01:01:06.390
Elizabeth Wright: Community interest officers.

928
01:01:06.750 --> 01:01:09.240
Ivan: In the stakeholder rights okay.

929
01:01:11.730 --> 01:01:12.690
Elizabeth Wright: We are okay with that.

930
01:01:13.260 --> 01:01:15.540
james murez: yeah all over don't worry about the formatting.

931
01:01:16.500 --> 01:01:16.770
james murez: yeah.

932
01:01:16.920 --> 01:01:18.000
yeah exactly okay.

933
01:01:19.020 --> 01:01:19.380
Ivan: So.

934
01:01:19.470 --> 01:01:20.400
Elizabeth Wright: Number One.

935
01:01:21.990 --> 01:01:23.220
Elizabeth Wright: They have the right.

936
01:01:23.970 --> 01:01:27.960
Elizabeth Wright: To vote in the election of the board of officers.

937
01:01:28.260 --> 01:01:29.310
Elizabeth Wright: A specified.

938
01:01:29.310 --> 01:01:31.380
Elizabeth Wright: On their articles 610.

939
01:01:32.430 --> 01:01:33.330
Elizabeth Wright: Which we'll get to them.

940
01:01:33.750 --> 01:01:34.920
Elizabeth Wright: Then everything else is.

941
01:01:35.130 --> 01:01:37.110
Ivan: saying what we're doing is.

942
01:01:37.140 --> 01:01:38.250
Elizabeth Wright: making sure that the.

943
01:01:38.280 --> 01:01:39.360
Elizabeth Wright: Community interest.

944
01:01:39.360 --> 01:01:41.520
Ivan: Officers that.

945
01:01:41.550 --> 01:01:43.050
Their rights are included.

946
01:01:46.020 --> 01:01:46.560
Elizabeth Wright: Okay.

947
01:01:47.880 --> 01:01:50.370
james murez: Community off, you said, the Community interest office.

948
01:01:50.370 --> 01:01:51.840
Ivan: Community interest.

949
01:01:51.990 --> 01:01:53.880
james murez: Stakeholders okay good.

950
01:01:53.940 --> 01:01:55.650
Ivan: Their rights are included.

951
01:01:55.950 --> 01:01:57.600
Elizabeth Wright: They have the right to vote, the elections.

952
01:01:59.670 --> 01:02:02.520
james murez: Well, I guess, the question is.

953
01:02:05.430 --> 01:02:09.750
james murez: Does that now open it up for any Community interest stakeholder.

954
01:02:10.620 --> 01:02:15.570
Ivan: know who it's just saying they get right to vote in the election section that.

955
01:02:15.570 --> 01:02:17.040
Ivan: says, who can vote for whom.

956
01:02:17.310 --> 01:02:20.700
james murez: yeah but understand what i'm saying oh so only.

957
01:02:23.640 --> 01:02:26.370
Ivan: It was left out years ago and it should.

958
01:02:26.430 --> 01:02:26.970
Elizabeth Wright: We want to.

959
01:02:27.000 --> 01:02:28.080
Elizabeth Wright: Make sure it goes when.

960
01:02:28.470 --> 01:02:29.100
Ivan: They have right.

961
01:02:29.790 --> 01:02:48.630
james murez: But by by including Community interest stakeholder having the right to vote, that means that anyone outside of the business boundaries, whether they own property or not, if they conduct any kind of business within the boundaries, they now get to vote in our election.

962
01:02:50.820 --> 01:02:52.050
Ivan: If they work.

963
01:02:52.260 --> 01:02:55.410
Ivan: in Venice, yes, the reform stakeholder.

964
01:02:57.810 --> 01:02:58.350
Ivan: you're right.

965
01:02:59.370 --> 01:02:59.850
james murez: Okay.

966
01:03:00.480 --> 01:03:02.130
Ivan: But actually city definition.

967
01:03:02.310 --> 01:03:03.600
Elizabeth Wright: Live worker on property.

968
01:03:03.900 --> 01:03:04.350
Okay.

969
01:03:05.580 --> 01:03:07.890
Elizabeth Wright: All right, okay now.

970
01:03:09.720 --> 01:03:11.790
Elizabeth Wright: Alright, so i'm going to move past that.

971
01:03:11.820 --> 01:03:13.440
Elizabeth Wright: The next paragraph.

972
01:03:14.070 --> 01:03:16.320
Elizabeth Wright: Skype is basically the same thing.

973
01:03:16.530 --> 01:03:17.580
Elizabeth Wright: It says that we can.

974
01:03:17.580 --> 01:03:18.030
Elizabeth Wright: See.

975
01:03:18.210 --> 01:03:21.930
Ivan: I would encourage stakeholders and we added in.

976
01:03:22.020 --> 01:03:23.100
Ivan: And community.

977
01:03:23.100 --> 01:03:24.420
Ivan: Interest stakeholders.

978
01:03:24.660 --> 01:03:25.770
Elizabeth Wright: To participate in the.

979
01:03:25.860 --> 01:03:28.020
Ivan: Activities blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

980
01:03:28.020 --> 01:03:28.650
james murez: Excuse me.

981
01:03:28.920 --> 01:03:30.180
Elizabeth Wright: The only thing we did there as.

982
01:03:30.270 --> 01:03:30.540
Elizabeth Wright: A.

983
01:03:30.840 --> 01:03:32.340
Ivan: Community interest stakeholders.

984
01:03:32.640 --> 01:03:34.950
james murez: Excuse me for one second I haven't let me ask a question.

985
01:03:36.000 --> 01:03:51.960
james murez: Up above in the previous paragraph, where it was in a square bracket and the city's definition of what a stakeholder is do they know the font dude does the city not define I mean, as I recall, they define what a Community interest officer was in their definition did they not.

986
01:03:56.310 --> 01:03:58.230
Ivan: I don't know if they did.

987
01:03:58.860 --> 01:04:05.010
james murez: Because if they did, then we're being redundant by saying Community interest officer and adding that in now.

988
01:04:05.430 --> 01:04:06.570
Ivan: yeah but you know what.

989
01:04:06.870 --> 01:04:07.890
Ivan: Jim, the reason I.

990
01:04:08.220 --> 01:04:09.810
Elizabeth Wright: want to add these things and there's.

991
01:04:09.840 --> 01:04:12.630
Elizabeth Wright: A couple more later the bylaws it.

992
01:04:12.720 --> 01:04:19.500
Ivan: seems like every time something happens, we have stakeholders ago oh they're not stakeholders, they don't have a right to.

993
01:04:19.500 --> 01:04:19.890
Elizabeth Wright: do that.

994
01:04:20.820 --> 01:04:21.900
Elizabeth Wright: You know I mean, I just want to.

995
01:04:21.900 --> 01:04:23.340
Elizabeth Wright: clarify they.

996
01:04:23.370 --> 01:04:24.690
Elizabeth Wright: have the right to vote in the.

997
01:04:24.690 --> 01:04:25.350
Elizabeth Wright: election.

998
01:04:25.800 --> 01:04:27.030
Elizabeth Wright: And then they have the right to.

999
01:04:27.030 --> 01:04:28.230
Elizabeth Wright: do everything.

1000
01:04:28.740 --> 01:04:30.870
Ivan: That the regular stakeholders.

1001
01:04:31.800 --> 01:04:36.060
james murez: Right, but I think that the city already defined set, but we can go back and double check that.

1002
01:04:36.120 --> 01:04:38.160
Elizabeth Wright: I don't think they did because.

1003
01:04:38.220 --> 01:04:39.210
Ivan: that's something that.

1004
01:04:39.390 --> 01:04:41.040
Elizabeth Wright: We named that often.

1005
01:04:42.450 --> 01:04:42.960
james murez: But I thought you'd.

1006
01:04:43.830 --> 01:04:44.670
Elizabeth Wright: be interested.

1007
01:04:44.790 --> 01:04:48.240
james murez: I thought you said that the city said we required to have that person.

1008
01:04:48.750 --> 01:04:49.620
Ivan: were required.

1009
01:04:49.650 --> 01:04:49.890
Ivan: Yes.

1010
01:04:49.920 --> 01:04:51.120
Elizabeth Wright: We are but.

1011
01:04:51.180 --> 01:04:52.680
Elizabeth Wright: In different Councils.

1012
01:04:52.890 --> 01:04:54.390
Elizabeth Wright: It has a different title.

1013
01:04:57.330 --> 01:04:59.850
Elizabeth Wright: So they didn't define it typically.

1014
01:05:01.350 --> 01:05:01.890
Elizabeth Wright: And I want to make.

1015
01:05:02.220 --> 01:05:11.520
james murez: It as long as long as we're not creating another issue that the city has to find them one way and we're redefining.

1016
01:05:11.970 --> 01:05:14.160
Ivan: know the stuff we're already doing.

1017
01:05:15.420 --> 01:05:17.160
Ivan: just want to codify it that's all.

1018
01:05:18.510 --> 01:05:19.860
james murez: Okay let's keep going I don't.

1019
01:05:19.980 --> 01:05:22.770
Ivan: I mean well think about it, with no.

1020
01:05:23.130 --> 01:05:41.700
james murez: I think I am thinking about it and the point that i'm making is is that if the city has to find that we have to have a Community interest officer, and if that definition is in their language as a stakeholder we don't want to go back and give it a new title, even if that title.

1021
01:05:41.700 --> 01:05:42.780
james murez: does not match.

1022
01:05:43.530 --> 01:05:44.100
Elizabeth Wright: definition.

1023
01:05:44.370 --> 01:05:45.690
Elizabeth Wright: The city has not.

1024
01:05:45.720 --> 01:05:48.000
Elizabeth Wright: declined Community interest.

1025
01:05:48.030 --> 01:05:49.050
Elizabeth Wright: Community office.

1026
01:05:50.700 --> 01:05:53.130
Elizabeth Wright: The city has said there's got to be.

1027
01:05:53.430 --> 01:05:55.380
Elizabeth Wright: At least one seat on the board.

1028
01:05:55.710 --> 01:05:57.000
Elizabeth Wright: available to.

1029
01:05:57.090 --> 01:05:58.230
Elizabeth Wright: Community interest.

1030
01:06:03.000 --> 01:06:04.080
james murez: I think you guys are okay.

1031
01:06:05.430 --> 01:06:06.870
Ivan: All right, okay.

1032
01:06:07.050 --> 01:06:08.310
Ivan: So what somebody.

1033
01:06:09.300 --> 01:06:10.020
Elizabeth Wright: Or, I can.

1034
01:06:10.110 --> 01:06:11.820
Elizabeth Wright: Would somebody make the motion.

1035
01:06:11.820 --> 01:06:13.620
Ivan: To approve article.

1036
01:06:14.550 --> 01:06:16.380
Elizabeth Wright: Four as amended.

1037
01:06:20.010 --> 01:06:24.030
George Francisco: I move, we approve Article four, as amended.

1038
01:06:25.260 --> 01:06:25.920
George Francisco: presented.

1039
01:06:26.610 --> 01:06:27.150
George Francisco: Thank you.

1040
01:06:31.380 --> 01:06:31.830
George Francisco: While you're.

1041
01:06:35.670 --> 01:06:38.910
George Francisco: On you're participating as a Community interest stakeholders so.

1042
01:06:40.080 --> 01:06:41.370
George Francisco: anybody wants to look at it.

1043
01:06:42.990 --> 01:06:47.490
George Francisco: doesn't seem like anybody read these things beforehand so so.

1044
01:06:49.740 --> 01:06:51.990
Oliver Fries: yeah i'm going to take a look.

1045
01:06:54.210 --> 01:06:57.300
Oliver Fries: All of your free, yes, George.

1046
01:07:00.930 --> 01:07:01.650
Oliver Fries: cj.

1047
01:07:02.970 --> 01:07:03.570
CJ Cole: Yes.

1048
01:07:06.930 --> 01:07:07.530
Ivan: Yes.

1049
01:07:09.450 --> 01:07:09.960
Ivan: Yes.

1050
01:07:12.060 --> 01:07:12.660
james murez: Yes.

1051
01:07:14.580 --> 01:07:15.150
Ivan: Okay.

1052
01:07:17.820 --> 01:07:18.150
Oliver Fries: Thank you.

1053
01:07:22.200 --> 01:07:23.130
Ivan: Let me know when you're ready.

1054
01:07:23.550 --> 01:07:23.910
ready.

1055
01:07:28.020 --> 01:07:28.500
Oliver Fries: ready.

1056
01:07:30.150 --> 01:07:30.660
Elizabeth Wright: Okay.

1057
01:07:31.020 --> 01:07:31.980
Oliver Fries: yep we're good.

1058
01:07:32.280 --> 01:07:34.020
Ivan: Alright governing board.

1059
01:07:37.950 --> 01:07:39.630
Elizabeth Wright: A couple of things, things will probably.

1060
01:07:39.900 --> 01:07:40.980
Ivan: need to talk about.

1061
01:07:43.440 --> 01:07:45.930
Elizabeth Wright: So composition and acid chains.

1062
01:07:47.250 --> 01:07:49.080
Elizabeth Wright: 713 and one.

1063
01:07:50.610 --> 01:07:51.090
Elizabeth Wright: A.

1064
01:07:52.500 --> 01:07:52.980
Elizabeth Wright: Is.

1065
01:07:53.700 --> 01:07:57.450
Ivan: This is something that has been our bylaws but.

1066
01:07:57.660 --> 01:07:58.530
Elizabeth Wright: It said the.

1067
01:07:58.650 --> 01:08:02.130
Elizabeth Wright: immediate past President shall serve as a.

1068
01:08:02.130 --> 01:08:03.120
Elizabeth Wright: Non voting.

1069
01:08:03.480 --> 01:08:04.740
Elizabeth Wright: it's official member of.

1070
01:08:04.740 --> 01:08:05.250
Elizabeth Wright: The Board.

1071
01:08:05.580 --> 01:08:08.340
Elizabeth Wright: And it's almost never happened.

1072
01:08:08.880 --> 01:08:11.580
Ivan: So just want to change shout to me.

1073
01:08:14.130 --> 01:08:16.920
Elizabeth Wright: Like you're not required to do that, but they may, if.

1074
01:08:16.920 --> 01:08:17.460
Elizabeth Wright: they choose.

1075
01:08:18.360 --> 01:08:18.870
Okay.

1076
01:08:20.100 --> 01:08:22.980
CJ Cole: You don't have to change any also.

1077
01:08:24.180 --> 01:08:25.500
Ivan: Can you speak our previous.

1078
01:08:27.510 --> 01:08:29.160
CJ Cole: Second, shall shall.

1079
01:08:30.600 --> 01:08:33.240
CJ Cole: titans need to be changed, also.

1080
01:08:34.890 --> 01:08:35.490
Oliver Fries: right here.

1081
01:08:36.360 --> 01:08:37.620
Elizabeth Wright: No, because that's a.

1082
01:08:37.620 --> 01:08:40.530
Elizabeth Wright: definite that the reason we created.

1083
01:08:40.560 --> 01:08:40.980
That.

1084
01:08:42.510 --> 01:08:42.750
Elizabeth Wright: Is.

1085
01:08:43.230 --> 01:08:44.010
Elizabeth Wright: Because.

1086
01:08:44.160 --> 01:08:47.340
Ivan: They would be the principal conduit of.

1087
01:08:49.830 --> 01:08:51.120
Ivan: These two front of every.

1088
01:08:52.560 --> 01:08:55.440
Elizabeth Wright: So it's not they may be, that they are that.

1089
01:09:00.360 --> 01:09:02.340
Ivan: Especially when i'm not around anymore.

1090
01:09:05.550 --> 01:09:06.060
Ivan: Okay.

1091
01:09:10.830 --> 01:09:12.300
Elizabeth Wright: All right, we just wanted to.

1092
01:09:12.330 --> 01:09:14.310
Elizabeth Wright: back off on that a little bit because.

1093
01:09:14.400 --> 01:09:15.420
Ivan: they're not required.

1094
01:09:15.450 --> 01:09:15.690
Elizabeth Wright: me to.

1095
01:09:15.900 --> 01:09:16.410
Ivan: Have ground.

1096
01:09:16.590 --> 01:09:18.180
Ivan: Violations okay.

1097
01:09:19.170 --> 01:09:23.790
Ivan: Next neighborhood Council oh be now B.

1098
01:09:24.060 --> 01:09:25.920
Ivan: and C.

1099
01:09:26.940 --> 01:09:29.280
Elizabeth Wright: are both done template language.

1100
01:09:30.180 --> 01:09:31.530
And they cannot be changed.

1101
01:09:33.780 --> 01:09:34.230
Oliver Fries: Okay.

1102
01:09:34.620 --> 01:09:36.630
Elizabeth Wright: So look them over quickly just to see the.

1103
01:09:36.930 --> 01:09:38.100
Ivan: Things were edited.

1104
01:09:39.390 --> 01:09:39.990
Elizabeth Wright: By john.

1105
01:09:49.020 --> 01:09:50.670
james murez: Okay let's keep moving on we.

1106
01:09:52.590 --> 01:09:53.070
Ivan: See.

1107
01:09:53.460 --> 01:09:54.150
Ivan: Our next.

1108
01:09:54.180 --> 01:09:55.320
Elizabeth Wright: One is quorum.

1109
01:09:57.330 --> 01:09:58.860
Elizabeth Wright: I added it in a sentence.

1110
01:09:58.860 --> 01:10:01.860
Elizabeth Wright: fear about what the suggestion.

1111
01:10:02.130 --> 01:10:04.080
Elizabeth Wright: Was from the done template but.

1112
01:10:05.370 --> 01:10:07.530
Elizabeth Wright: I added these two things interest I get.

1113
01:10:07.530 --> 01:10:11.700
Ivan: asked this all the time on a journey of committee members.

1114
01:10:11.970 --> 01:10:13.050
Elizabeth Wright: Shall constitute.

1115
01:10:13.050 --> 01:10:14.790
Elizabeth Wright: requirement or committee meetings.

1116
01:10:15.540 --> 01:10:17.010
Elizabeth Wright: So, other than X COM where.

1117
01:10:17.010 --> 01:10:18.000
Ivan: it's defined.

1118
01:10:20.400 --> 01:10:21.450
Elizabeth Wright: it's 50%.

1119
01:10:21.450 --> 01:10:22.050
Elizabeth Wright: plus one.

1120
01:10:22.950 --> 01:10:23.910
Ivan: For all committees.

1121
01:10:25.620 --> 01:10:32.220
Ivan: And floating quorum are not allowed does everybody understand what a floating quorum is.

1122
01:10:32.610 --> 01:10:35.100
james murez: No, but we don't need to it's not allowed it's okay keep going.

1123
01:10:35.370 --> 01:10:36.780
Ivan: Okay, fine.

1124
01:10:38.370 --> 01:10:42.690
Elizabeth Wright: Official actions, a majority vote of officers.

1125
01:10:42.690 --> 01:10:44.850
Ivan: Present and.

1126
01:10:44.910 --> 01:10:45.450
Voting.

1127
01:10:46.710 --> 01:10:48.270
Elizabeth Wright: Not including extension.

1128
01:10:48.300 --> 01:10:49.500
shall be sufficient.

1129
01:10:51.000 --> 01:10:53.130
Ivan: For the board to take action, basically.

1130
01:10:54.270 --> 01:10:56.250
Ivan: An extension is created as a.

1131
01:10:56.250 --> 01:10:56.970
Elizabeth Wright: Not vote.

1132
01:10:57.360 --> 01:10:58.140
Elizabeth Wright: which is what we.

1133
01:10:58.170 --> 01:10:59.100
Elizabeth Wright: Do already.

1134
01:10:59.550 --> 01:11:02.250
Ivan: But I wanted to have it in the bylaws.

1135
01:11:02.550 --> 01:11:05.400
Elizabeth Wright: To we don't have discussions alright.

1136
01:11:07.080 --> 01:11:08.520
Ivan: Thanks everybody okay they're.

1137
01:11:11.910 --> 01:11:12.480
Oliver Fries: Moving on.

1138
01:11:17.970 --> 01:11:18.510
Ivan: All right.

1139
01:11:20.640 --> 01:11:21.510
Elizabeth Wright: term limits.

1140
01:11:23.610 --> 01:11:25.410
Ivan: We added the word board.

1141
01:11:26.070 --> 01:11:28.380
board term of office Shelby two years.

1142
01:11:29.520 --> 01:11:30.210
Basically.

1143
01:11:31.230 --> 01:11:31.710
Elizabeth Wright: All right.

1144
01:11:33.900 --> 01:11:39.360
Elizabeth Wright: Now the other thing it's another thing that's going to come up here and I have.

1145
01:11:39.930 --> 01:11:41.640
Ivan: Several calls into Freddie we.

1146
01:11:41.670 --> 01:11:42.750
Elizabeth Wright: started discussing.

1147
01:11:42.750 --> 01:11:43.050
Ivan: This.

1148
01:11:43.680 --> 01:11:45.030
Elizabeth Wright: i'll have enhanced it.

1149
01:11:45.030 --> 01:11:45.780
Elizabeth Wright: Certainly, by the.

1150
01:11:45.810 --> 01:11:51.480
Elizabeth Wright: Time it gets to the board, but they pass new language they're going to want.

1151
01:11:51.570 --> 01:11:53.220
Ivan: All board members.

1152
01:11:53.250 --> 01:11:55.140
Elizabeth Wright: For the 99 boards.

1153
01:11:55.800 --> 01:11:56.820
Ivan: To be sworn in.

1154
01:11:56.850 --> 01:12:05.790
james murez: On July 1 something that's not in here now, we don't need to get in.

1155
01:12:05.790 --> 01:12:08.130
Elizabeth Wright: dumbo it's hitting the done template.

1156
01:12:08.340 --> 01:12:08.940
james murez: Mobile they.

1157
01:12:09.540 --> 01:12:10.260
Elizabeth Wright: were in.

1158
01:12:10.380 --> 01:12:11.220
Ivan: And i'm fighting.

1159
01:12:11.370 --> 01:12:12.450
Elizabeth Wright: Fighting credit ready.

1160
01:12:13.770 --> 01:12:15.990
Ivan: So I put it in here.

1161
01:12:16.710 --> 01:12:18.540
Elizabeth Wright: I didn't put that language again.

1162
01:12:18.630 --> 01:12:19.980
Elizabeth Wright: I have to wait for an answer.

1163
01:12:20.820 --> 01:12:21.180
Okay.

1164
01:12:22.290 --> 01:12:22.680
Ivan: So.

1165
01:12:23.010 --> 01:12:24.480
Ivan: You will be yes or no and.

1166
01:12:24.480 --> 01:12:24.810
Elizabeth Wright: Then what.

1167
01:12:25.230 --> 01:12:28.500
Elizabeth Wright: You know what kind of screws those of us that are at the.

1168
01:12:28.560 --> 01:12:31.500
Ivan: end of the process, because.

1169
01:12:31.530 --> 01:12:33.750
Elizabeth Wright: Our elections aren't certified.

1170
01:12:33.780 --> 01:12:35.550
Elizabeth Wright: Usually till the third week in.

1171
01:12:35.550 --> 01:12:37.200
Elizabeth Wright: June, which only.

1172
01:12:37.260 --> 01:12:38.400
Elizabeth Wright: gives us one week.

1173
01:12:38.670 --> 01:12:39.180
Elizabeth Wright: To put.

1174
01:12:39.600 --> 01:12:42.870
Elizabeth Wright: Our board together, you know our committees and everything else.

1175
01:12:42.930 --> 01:12:44.460
Ivan: doesn't leave what's the water time.

1176
01:12:46.050 --> 01:12:46.530
Ivan: Okay.

1177
01:12:46.740 --> 01:12:47.130
Elizabeth Wright: So.

1178
01:12:47.220 --> 01:12:49.500
Ivan: i'm trying to get an exemption there.

1179
01:12:51.480 --> 01:12:51.810
Elizabeth Wright: Okay.

1180
01:12:52.830 --> 01:12:53.730
Ivan: term limits.

1181
01:12:53.940 --> 01:12:55.320
Ivan: Duty section five.

1182
01:12:55.350 --> 01:12:57.570
Elizabeth Wright: duties and powers and I.

1183
01:12:58.380 --> 01:13:00.210
Elizabeth Wright: realized that the formatting is.

1184
01:13:00.210 --> 01:13:00.870
Elizabeth Wright: off here.

1185
01:13:02.550 --> 01:13:03.270
Ivan: Be.

1186
01:13:03.630 --> 01:13:05.070
Elizabeth Wright: Again, all we did is.

1187
01:13:05.130 --> 01:13:07.650
Ivan: editor at large and community.

1188
01:13:07.680 --> 01:13:13.500
Elizabeth Wright: Interest Community officer, we just wanted to find that that applies to both.

1189
01:13:14.910 --> 01:13:15.360
Elizabeth Wright: Okay.

1190
01:13:18.120 --> 01:13:19.290
Elizabeth Wright: Second, six.

1191
01:13:19.440 --> 01:13:20.430
Ivan: mating season.

1192
01:13:20.610 --> 01:13:21.750
Ivan: And now i'm going to come.

1193
01:13:22.170 --> 01:13:22.800
Ivan: What you're.

1194
01:13:24.630 --> 01:13:25.740
Elizabeth Wright: What you had a note.

1195
01:13:25.740 --> 01:13:29.250
Elizabeth Wright: Here serving on committees, not necessarily being done.

1196
01:13:29.640 --> 01:13:33.150
Ivan: Right Okay, so I put this down for.

1197
01:13:33.150 --> 01:13:42.150
Elizabeth Wright: Discussion there are several things that are going on, that was in our neighborhood Council that are just ongoing violations of the.

1198
01:13:42.180 --> 01:13:42.870
bylaws.

1199
01:13:44.130 --> 01:13:45.870
Elizabeth Wright: We have, in that all.

1200
01:13:45.960 --> 01:13:50.340
Ivan: board members must either chair or serve on.

1201
01:13:50.910 --> 01:13:51.570
A committee.

1202
01:13:53.580 --> 01:13:54.840
Ivan: And we've never been able to.

1203
01:13:54.840 --> 01:13:55.470
Elizabeth Wright: enforce it.

1204
01:14:00.390 --> 01:14:02.880
Elizabeth Wright: So I didn't put it in.

1205
01:14:03.270 --> 01:14:06.570
Elizabeth Wright: On that what we did put it in we're keeping it in and Jim.

1206
01:14:06.750 --> 01:14:09.090
Ivan: This is something that probably.

1207
01:14:10.350 --> 01:14:14.520
Ivan: You and I have to do, and whatever else you want to be a part of that you can.

1208
01:14:14.880 --> 01:14:15.690
Ivan: deal with.

1209
01:14:15.810 --> 01:14:16.980
Ivan: How do we enforce for.

1210
01:14:16.980 --> 01:14:17.490
instance.

1211
01:14:20.520 --> 01:14:21.030
Ivan: Okay.

1212
01:14:21.690 --> 01:14:29.970
james murez: Well, do we have do we have a catch all paragraph that says any violations of the Board rules shall constitute termination from the board.

1213
01:14:30.780 --> 01:14:38.610
Elizabeth Wright: know what it currently would be if you would, if you were to ask me a parliamentarian, I would say.

1214
01:14:38.970 --> 01:14:40.530
Elizabeth Wright: it's a violation of our.

1215
01:14:40.530 --> 01:14:41.280
bylaws.

1216
01:14:42.870 --> 01:14:43.890
Elizabeth Wright: And at such.

1217
01:14:44.190 --> 01:14:46.710
Ivan: a board member may be centered every most.

1218
01:14:47.310 --> 01:14:49.560
james murez: Well centering is much more difficult.

1219
01:14:49.950 --> 01:14:51.150
Elizabeth Wright: But you have to do both.

1220
01:14:51.240 --> 01:14:57.210
Ivan: You can't remove a board member that's the new rules, you can't remove a board member without centering them.

1221
01:14:57.210 --> 01:14:57.660
First.

1222
01:14:59.670 --> 01:15:00.570
Elizabeth Wright: Exit done rule.

1223
01:15:01.410 --> 01:15:09.600
james murez: Even said, unless i'm mistaken centering takes first giving them a warning and that learning has to be agreed to by three board members.

1224
01:15:09.810 --> 01:15:22.350
james murez: And right and then and then, once those three board members bring it to the board, then I bought two thirds vote of the board, then has to agree with it we're now talking about two months out.

1225
01:15:22.770 --> 01:15:26.850
james murez: And then, a person still is not participating in their basic functionality.

1226
01:15:27.390 --> 01:15:28.380
Elizabeth Wright: I understand.

1227
01:15:29.430 --> 01:15:30.120
Elizabeth Wright: Page and.

1228
01:15:30.210 --> 01:15:31.020
james murez: Yes, all the.

1229
01:15:31.860 --> 01:15:32.400
james murez: rules.

1230
01:15:32.490 --> 01:15:33.060
Ivan: X and X.

1231
01:15:33.720 --> 01:15:38.250
james murez: Excuse me that's only the century part that is not yet the removal.

1232
01:15:38.580 --> 01:15:39.720
Ivan: Right now.

1233
01:15:39.750 --> 01:15:40.740
Elizabeth Wright: understand.

1234
01:15:41.040 --> 01:15:52.620
Ivan: That when you read the whole Center process and paragraph it's actually an opportunity for a board member who's violating.

1235
01:15:53.280 --> 01:15:56.460
Ivan: To correct themselves, so what we're basically.

1236
01:15:56.490 --> 01:15:57.810
Elizabeth Wright: Doing or what understood.

1237
01:15:57.870 --> 01:15:58.170
Ivan: say.

1238
01:15:58.350 --> 01:15:59.370
Ivan: You have one was the.

1239
01:15:59.370 --> 01:16:00.570
Ivan: Correct behavior.

1240
01:16:01.590 --> 01:16:03.990
james murez: yeah but it took two months to get to that point.

1241
01:16:04.230 --> 01:16:05.580
Elizabeth Wright: I understand that's the.

1242
01:16:05.580 --> 01:16:06.390
Ivan: dragon rules.

1243
01:16:06.510 --> 01:16:07.830
Ivan: And it came from bonk.

1244
01:16:08.460 --> 01:16:11.940
james murez: And that's, the only way, you can take a person off the board it's not following the rules.

1245
01:16:11.970 --> 01:16:14.700
Ivan: yep yep and it's currently in our bylaws.

1246
01:16:14.790 --> 01:16:17.010
james murez: Then we have nothing to discuss let's keep going.

1247
01:16:17.460 --> 01:16:21.870
Ivan: I that's what i'm saying, but I want you to understand what we did all right.

1248
01:16:22.710 --> 01:16:23.310
Ivan: Okay.

1249
01:16:24.270 --> 01:16:25.080
Oliver Fries: So where are we now.

1250
01:16:25.110 --> 01:16:25.770
Ivan: They can see.

1251
01:16:28.290 --> 01:16:30.690
Ivan: They can see what we added in.

1252
01:16:31.080 --> 01:16:31.290
It.

1253
01:16:33.240 --> 01:16:34.320
Ivan: was suggesting.

1254
01:16:34.350 --> 01:16:37.320
Ivan: That within 60 days of an.

1255
01:16:37.350 --> 01:16:38.850
Ivan: upcoming election.

1256
01:16:43.050 --> 01:16:44.760
Elizabeth Wright: We can't fill vacancies.

1257
01:16:48.990 --> 01:16:51.750
james murez: I don't have a problem with that did anybody else have a problem with that.

1258
01:16:54.360 --> 01:16:54.780
Ivan: Okay.

1259
01:16:56.190 --> 01:16:58.860
Ivan: I have one more week looks like something.

1260
01:16:59.310 --> 01:16:59.670
Yes.

1261
01:17:00.900 --> 01:17:05.700
Elizabeth Wright: Under vacancies, that is, you should have the statement that.

1262
01:17:06.120 --> 01:17:06.990
Elizabeth Wright: candidates.

1263
01:17:07.050 --> 01:17:08.250
Ivan: To fill the vacant.

1264
01:17:08.340 --> 01:17:09.270
Elizabeth Wright: board seat.

1265
01:17:11.160 --> 01:17:12.180
Elizabeth Wright: must have might.

1266
01:17:12.240 --> 01:17:18.300
Elizabeth Wright: Make the same criteria as candidates for the general board election.

1267
01:17:22.920 --> 01:17:24.720
Ivan: That makes sense, you understand what you're saying.

1268
01:17:25.020 --> 01:17:27.270
Oliver Fries: Yes, do you want me to add that in.

1269
01:17:28.260 --> 01:17:31.860
Ivan: yeah can you make a note that I thought was we had put it in.

1270
01:17:32.190 --> 01:17:32.820
Ivan: Maybe not.

1271
01:17:33.540 --> 01:17:34.680
Oliver Fries: Okay we're.

1272
01:17:36.240 --> 01:17:37.800
Oliver Fries: going to write it in candidates if.

1273
01:17:40.320 --> 01:17:43.770
Oliver Fries: I guess individuals who fill vacancies must have the same.

1274
01:17:46.170 --> 01:17:47.100
Oliver Fries: As we just read it again.

1275
01:17:48.960 --> 01:17:52.350
Ivan: The same qualifications as.

1276
01:17:53.400 --> 01:17:54.690
Elizabeth Wright: meet the same criteria which.

1277
01:17:54.690 --> 01:17:56.400
Ivan: meet the same criteria.

1278
01:17:56.640 --> 01:17:57.990
Ivan: As the person who's.

1279
01:17:59.640 --> 01:18:00.030
Ivan: Leaving.

1280
01:18:02.550 --> 01:18:05.010
Oliver Fries: same as election.

1281
01:18:05.040 --> 01:18:07.110
Elizabeth Wright: For so, for example.

1282
01:18:07.470 --> 01:18:08.460
Elizabeth Wright: If you have.

1283
01:18:08.880 --> 01:18:09.540
james murez: Even if.

1284
01:18:09.840 --> 01:18:11.070
Ivan: The neighborhood committee.

1285
01:18:11.340 --> 01:18:12.870
Ivan: I think somebody is.

1286
01:18:13.260 --> 01:18:14.430
Elizabeth Wright: is part of the.

1287
01:18:15.990 --> 01:18:16.710
Elizabeth Wright: triangle.

1288
01:18:16.740 --> 01:18:18.690
Elizabeth Wright: Ivan at their resigning.

1289
01:18:18.990 --> 01:18:19.590
Oliver Fries: One side yeah.

1290
01:18:19.980 --> 01:18:24.990
james murez: Ivan it's not helping Elizabeth Can you clarify all of her sentence.

1291
01:18:27.540 --> 01:18:30.600
Elizabeth Wright: candidates to fill vacancies.

1292
01:18:31.560 --> 01:18:32.310
Elizabeth Wright: must meet.

1293
01:18:32.430 --> 01:18:34.110
Elizabeth Wright: The same criteria.

1294
01:18:35.370 --> 01:18:37.500
Elizabeth Wright: As required for.

1295
01:18:37.770 --> 01:18:38.610
Ivan: The general.

1296
01:18:38.790 --> 01:18:41.520
Elizabeth Wright: Election of the Board well.

1297
01:18:41.850 --> 01:18:42.420
Ivan: not always.

1298
01:18:44.010 --> 01:18:44.370
You know.

1299
01:18:45.420 --> 01:18:46.920
CJ Cole: It says bacon born.

1300
01:18:47.460 --> 01:18:48.420
Ivan: Well yeah you're right.

1301
01:18:48.630 --> 01:18:48.990
It is.

1302
01:18:50.130 --> 01:18:50.460
Ivan: It is.

1303
01:18:51.810 --> 01:18:54.690
james murez: Okay, I want all of her to finish typing what Elizabeth was.

1304
01:18:54.690 --> 01:18:55.260
Elizabeth Wright: Right okay.

1305
01:18:55.500 --> 01:19:04.050
Oliver Fries: Are you ready for your candidates to fill vacancies must meet the same criteria required for a general election for general elections of the board.

1306
01:19:05.640 --> 01:19:07.050
james murez: Okay Is that correct Elizabeth.

1307
01:19:08.820 --> 01:19:09.570
Ivan: i'm sorry I could.

1308
01:19:09.600 --> 01:19:10.110
Elizabeth Wright: not hear.

1309
01:19:11.220 --> 01:19:17.640
Oliver Fries: It says candidates to fill vacancies must meet the same criteria is required for general elections of the board.

1310
01:19:27.480 --> 01:19:28.020
For hits.

1311
01:19:31.980 --> 01:19:32.370
james murez: sega.

1312
01:19:32.970 --> 01:19:36.360
Oliver Fries: He wanted me to capitalize board so okay anything else.

1313
01:19:37.590 --> 01:19:38.040
Oliver Fries: That read.

1314
01:19:40.860 --> 01:19:42.330
Oliver Fries: Yes, okay great.

1315
01:19:43.920 --> 01:19:44.460
james murez: Okay.

1316
01:19:52.320 --> 01:19:53.730
Elizabeth Wright: Well, we need to take the two minute.

1317
01:19:53.730 --> 01:19:54.390
Elizabeth Wright: break here.

1318
01:19:55.560 --> 01:19:56.220
Elizabeth Wright: Right.

1319
01:20:00.360 --> 01:20:00.960
Oliver Fries: Okay.

1320
01:20:01.710 --> 01:20:03.930
james murez: Well, you want to just share elizabeth's.

1321
01:20:33.810 --> 01:20:34.200
Ivan: Okay.

1322
01:20:35.430 --> 01:20:36.870
Ivan: All right, we ready to move on.

1323
01:20:39.330 --> 01:20:39.780
Oliver Fries: Yes.

1324
01:20:47.940 --> 01:20:48.270
Ivan: Okay.

1325
01:20:48.300 --> 01:20:49.110
absences.

1326
01:20:52.860 --> 01:20:53.940
Ivan: Any regular schedule.

1327
01:20:54.150 --> 01:20:56.850
Ivan: yeah all we did here in Section seven.

1328
01:20:58.230 --> 01:21:04.860
Ivan: Is what is it has conflict conflict and regarding whether boredom oh yeah all right we'll get to that.

1329
01:21:07.440 --> 01:21:08.790
Ivan: It says in the middle of.

1330
01:21:08.880 --> 01:21:09.960
absences.

1331
01:21:11.490 --> 01:21:17.340
Ivan: It says, you can remove somebody at any general board meeting we don't have.

1332
01:21:17.370 --> 01:21:20.970
Ivan: General board meetings so we could crush that out.

1333
01:21:28.560 --> 01:21:29.790
Ivan: Okay yep.

1334
01:21:30.510 --> 01:21:32.160
Ivan: All right, um.

1335
01:21:35.040 --> 01:21:35.400
Ivan: Okay.

1336
01:21:37.980 --> 01:21:39.270
Oliver Fries: Ivan Ivan one second Jim.

1337
01:21:39.600 --> 01:21:45.840
james murez: Jim Ivan I asked you earlier about what are we doing about the vacancy of the.

1338
01:21:48.510 --> 01:21:49.110
Ivan: yeah.

1339
01:21:49.170 --> 01:21:51.630
Ivan: Why do you think I thought, all the.

1340
01:21:51.960 --> 01:21:52.650
Ivan: notes were in.

1341
01:21:52.770 --> 01:21:54.630
james murez: Their Community interest office.

1342
01:21:54.630 --> 01:21:55.770
Ivan: Without further on.

1343
01:21:56.460 --> 01:21:58.470
james murez: Where did your vacancy.

1344
01:21:59.070 --> 01:22:00.420
Ivan: give it to me again Jen.

1345
01:22:01.800 --> 01:22:04.710
james murez: Key I mean you can talk over me I can't hear you what are you saying.

1346
01:22:06.120 --> 01:22:07.170
Ivan: give it to me again.

1347
01:22:08.370 --> 01:22:09.930
james murez: How are we addressing.

1348
01:22:11.010 --> 01:22:16.890
james murez: The vacancy of a Community interest officer do they.

1349
01:22:17.430 --> 01:22:24.720
james murez: be replaced with another Community interest officer, or can it be any at large.

1350
01:22:26.460 --> 01:22:27.030
james murez: stakeholder.

1351
01:22:27.060 --> 01:22:30.540
Elizabeth Wright: Alright, so this is going to be a discussion here.

1352
01:22:31.890 --> 01:22:34.230
Ivan: and actually listen, I disagree on that.

1353
01:22:35.910 --> 01:22:37.830
Ivan: it's been going on for a while.

1354
01:22:39.210 --> 01:22:47.670
Ivan: By contention has always been and those of you when I was doing orientation have heard me say this, the.

1355
01:22:47.700 --> 01:22:51.210
Ivan: difference that the Community interest title.

1356
01:22:52.410 --> 01:22:56.580
Ivan: is only for purposes of the election, making sure that we.

1357
01:22:56.610 --> 01:22:59.070
Ivan: have one seat on the board for.

1358
01:22:59.070 --> 01:23:00.060
Ivan: somebody who doesn't.

1359
01:23:00.090 --> 01:23:08.040
Ivan: Live worker on property here once they are elected, they become the same as the rest of the Community officer.

1360
01:23:12.270 --> 01:23:12.840
Ivan: You follow.

1361
01:23:13.200 --> 01:23:15.120
james murez: yeah i'm following that that's like a.

1362
01:23:15.180 --> 01:23:17.220
Ivan: that's not when i'm finished i'll give you.

1363
01:23:17.940 --> 01:23:18.870
Ivan: Part so.

1364
01:23:20.160 --> 01:23:30.030
Ivan: For example, Bruno is the same as all the other Community officer for the same duties that nothing changes unless he leave.

1365
01:23:31.440 --> 01:23:40.950
Ivan: Once he leaves we just added in a sentence about replacing people with the same CAP what we use.

1366
01:23:42.150 --> 01:23:45.060
Ivan: The same criteria, so it would have to.

1367
01:23:45.060 --> 01:23:46.890
Ivan: be a Community interest.

1368
01:23:49.380 --> 01:23:52.830
Ivan: stakeholder runs Community interest he.

1369
01:23:53.280 --> 01:23:55.440
james murez: Okay, fine then it's been addressed.

1370
01:23:56.400 --> 01:23:57.660
james murez: Okay, as long.

1371
01:23:58.530 --> 01:23:58.770
As.

1372
01:24:00.600 --> 01:24:02.340
Ivan: you're going to hear something different from lowes.

1373
01:24:03.180 --> 01:24:04.710
Elizabeth Wright: Yes, you're going to hear the correct.

1374
01:24:05.280 --> 01:24:06.330
Ivan: That don't do that.

1375
01:24:08.550 --> 01:24:10.680
james murez: Okay, then move on move on all over we got it.

1376
01:24:11.220 --> 01:24:13.440
Ivan: Venture wait a minute what was taught.

1377
01:24:14.850 --> 01:24:15.990
Elizabeth Wright: That term community.

1378
01:24:15.990 --> 01:24:16.800
Ivan: officer.

1379
01:24:17.370 --> 01:24:18.990
Ivan: Is an informal Turner.

1380
01:24:20.100 --> 01:24:20.310
Elizabeth Wright: there.

1381
01:24:20.340 --> 01:24:21.630
Ivan: are no officers.

1382
01:24:21.990 --> 01:24:25.380
Ivan: With the title Community officer, we have.

1383
01:24:25.440 --> 01:24:26.070
Elizabeth Wright: at large.

1384
01:24:26.100 --> 01:24:30.900
Ivan: Community officers, we have Community interest Community officer.

1385
01:24:31.770 --> 01:24:32.490
Ivan: Their rights.

1386
01:24:32.520 --> 01:24:35.790
Ivan: responsibilities and so forth are identical.

1387
01:24:36.600 --> 01:24:37.980
Ivan: The only difference is.

1388
01:24:38.280 --> 01:24:40.050
Ivan: Who can run for office.

1389
01:24:42.000 --> 01:24:42.360
Ivan: Right.

1390
01:24:44.070 --> 01:24:44.580
james murez: Okay.

1391
01:24:45.630 --> 01:24:46.080
All right.

1392
01:24:47.790 --> 01:24:48.240
Ivan: Okay.

1393
01:24:50.970 --> 01:24:53.160
Ivan: All right, that was absences.

1394
01:24:56.340 --> 01:24:57.150
Ivan: well.

1395
01:24:59.040 --> 01:24:59.790
Oliver Fries: It is.

1396
01:24:59.910 --> 01:25:00.630
Ivan: Alright let's keep.

1397
01:25:00.720 --> 01:25:01.350
Ivan: Going here.

1398
01:25:01.680 --> 01:25:02.640
Ivan: This is a long one.

1399
01:25:03.420 --> 01:25:06.180
Ivan: Alright, the next one section eight Center.

1400
01:25:07.200 --> 01:25:20.490
Ivan: This is the done language, we are actually City Council language, and we are mandated to keep it so you can disagree, all you want, but this is not change, they put it into everybody's five o'clock.

1401
01:25:22.500 --> 01:25:26.520
Ivan: The next section nine which is removal.

1402
01:25:26.880 --> 01:25:27.690
Ivan: same thing.

1403
01:25:28.380 --> 01:25:31.320
Ivan: This is their rules, and we cannot change it.

1404
01:25:33.870 --> 01:25:35.340
Ivan: Okay, all right.

1405
01:25:36.210 --> 01:25:38.850
Ivan: The only thing now is, if we go.

1406
01:25:40.800 --> 01:25:43.860
Ivan: go all the way down to what is it.

1407
01:25:46.170 --> 01:25:49.440
Ivan: Remove remove a nine.

1408
01:25:50.610 --> 01:25:53.640
Ivan: This policy is not intended to restrict or eliminate.

1409
01:25:54.210 --> 01:25:55.710
Ivan: All this interface changes for.

1410
01:25:57.090 --> 01:25:57.270
Ivan: The.

1411
01:25:58.320 --> 01:25:58.710
Right.

1412
01:26:02.160 --> 01:26:03.570
format or no comments.

1413
01:26:04.620 --> 01:26:05.100
Ivan: Okay.

1414
01:26:06.630 --> 01:26:12.930
Ivan: Section 10 resignation nothing section 11 Community outreach.

1415
01:26:14.370 --> 01:26:15.030
Ivan: Okay.

1416
01:26:17.550 --> 01:26:20.790
Ivan: So what we want to change here, it says.

1417
01:26:20.850 --> 01:26:24.000
Ivan: Does everybody see where I am section 11 Community outreach.

1418
01:26:28.560 --> 01:26:34.740
Ivan: It says assessment of outreach instituted to inform the.

1419
01:26:35.130 --> 01:26:42.300
Ivan: Stakeholders as the existence of the vm say we want to take out stakeholders and putting the Venice community.

1420
01:26:43.410 --> 01:26:45.690
Ivan: outreach infant just for our stakeholder.

1421
01:26:47.910 --> 01:26:48.450
Ivan: Okay.

1422
01:26:48.720 --> 01:26:49.110
yeah.

1423
01:26:50.220 --> 01:26:50.640
Ivan: All right.

1424
01:26:50.940 --> 01:26:54.660
Ivan: We just broaden the definition of it and.

1425
01:26:57.750 --> 01:26:59.940
Ivan: that's it Okay, so this is.

1426
01:26:59.970 --> 01:27:04.170
Ivan: Article five, which covers several pages.

1427
01:27:05.580 --> 01:27:09.180
George Francisco: Many sky moved to prove Article five is presented.

1428
01:27:09.420 --> 01:27:09.570
George Francisco: and

1429
01:27:10.290 --> 01:27:11.130
Change OK.

1430
01:27:12.570 --> 01:27:14.850
james murez: gina second Jim second is emotion.

1431
01:27:15.450 --> 01:27:16.260
Ivan: Okay okay.

1432
01:27:19.020 --> 01:27:26.670
Ivan: take a vote on this one all over there's a lot of stuff in here hasn't been approved ended i'm sorry is that okay George.

1433
01:27:27.090 --> 01:27:27.600
yeah.

1434
01:27:29.220 --> 01:27:29.670
Ivan: Okay.

1435
01:27:30.060 --> 01:27:30.390
Okay.

1436
01:27:32.880 --> 01:27:34.110
Oliver Fries: So do we need to take a vote and.

1437
01:27:34.740 --> 01:27:36.750
Ivan: yeah I would just too much in here.

1438
01:27:36.780 --> 01:27:39.300
Oliver Fries: you've got to take our vote into is.

1439
01:27:39.300 --> 01:27:39.630
George Francisco: Fine.

1440
01:27:39.660 --> 01:27:40.620
George Francisco: I vote yes.

1441
01:27:41.160 --> 01:27:43.770
Oliver Fries: Okay, George yes all vs cj.

1442
01:27:44.100 --> 01:27:44.580
Yes.

1443
01:27:48.330 --> 01:27:48.840
Ivan: Yes.

1444
01:27:50.940 --> 01:27:51.360
Ivan: Yes.

1445
01:27:53.220 --> 01:27:54.000
james murez: Yes.

1446
01:27:54.090 --> 01:27:55.860
Oliver Fries: passes moving on.

1447
01:27:57.990 --> 01:28:02.220
Oliver Fries: Okay i've been So where are we right now resignation or past that.

1448
01:28:03.330 --> 01:28:06.030
Oliver Fries: i'm sorry what where are we right now, when I.

1449
01:28:06.510 --> 01:28:08.610
Ivan: was moving on to Article six.

1450
01:28:09.060 --> 01:28:09.480
Okay.

1451
01:28:10.590 --> 01:28:11.430
Ivan: officers.

1452
01:28:13.020 --> 01:28:16.710
Ivan: And done wanted us to add, in the words.

1453
01:28:17.040 --> 01:28:17.310
Ivan: Of.

1454
01:28:17.340 --> 01:28:18.000
The Board.

1455
01:28:20.040 --> 01:28:20.550
Ivan: Okay.

1456
01:28:22.260 --> 01:28:25.680
Ivan: So, now Article six regions officers of the board.

1457
01:28:26.220 --> 01:28:36.360
Ivan: Okay section one hasn't changed we've gone through this and we're suggesting a few changes in the in the duties.

1458
01:28:37.920 --> 01:28:42.300
Ivan: Of the officers and everything it's up for debate so.

1459
01:28:42.480 --> 01:28:45.810
Ivan: A President we want to add in.

1460
01:28:47.820 --> 01:28:50.340
Ivan: If we come to a situation.

1461
01:28:51.120 --> 01:28:52.830
Ivan: Where, for whatever reason.

1462
01:28:53.130 --> 01:28:54.750
Ivan: At come can't meet.

1463
01:28:55.590 --> 01:28:57.300
either for lack of a quorum.

1464
01:28:58.380 --> 01:28:58.950
Ivan: or.

1465
01:28:59.280 --> 01:29:05.490
Ivan: You know the pandemic or whatever it is, we want to give the President unilateral.

1466
01:29:05.610 --> 01:29:06.180
Ivan: power.

1467
01:29:06.510 --> 01:29:08.250
Ivan: To create a board agenda.

1468
01:29:12.420 --> 01:29:17.670
Ivan: Right now, we can't have a board meeting, unless I had come doug's the agenda.

1469
01:29:18.990 --> 01:29:20.880
Ivan: And in cases of emergency.

1470
01:29:21.900 --> 01:29:24.570
Ivan: We don't want to miss a board meeting you know.

1471
01:29:25.110 --> 01:29:27.750
Ivan: yeah right, so does anybody have a problem with.

1472
01:29:30.300 --> 01:29:30.690
No.

1473
01:29:35.370 --> 01:29:36.780
Ivan: Going once going twice.

1474
01:29:37.020 --> 01:29:38.490
james murez: keep going let's keep going.

1475
01:29:39.870 --> 01:29:40.410
Ivan: what's that.

1476
01:29:41.640 --> 01:29:43.230
Oliver Fries: I can't see anybody's faces so.

1477
01:29:45.060 --> 01:29:46.920
james murez: Nobody nobody's raising their hand.

1478
01:29:47.190 --> 01:29:48.990
Oliver Fries: All right, Okay, so now we're here.

1479
01:29:49.020 --> 01:29:49.440
Ivan: up.

1480
01:29:49.620 --> 01:29:52.140
Ivan: Some graduate from the gym your drop just got bigger.

1481
01:29:52.440 --> 01:29:52.950
Oliver Fries: Okay.

1482
01:29:53.460 --> 01:29:54.600
Ivan: All right, Secretary.

1483
01:29:56.940 --> 01:29:57.540
Ivan: Now.

1484
01:29:58.080 --> 01:30:04.170
Ivan: First weiner responsible for producing accurate men minutes.

1485
01:30:04.290 --> 01:30:04.770
Of.

1486
01:30:07.560 --> 01:30:08.790
Ivan: stakeholder.

1487
01:30:09.990 --> 01:30:20.400
Ivan: Board of officers and administrative committee meetings were taking out the words a colder we used to call the town halls stay cold room meeting.

1488
01:30:21.330 --> 01:30:25.470
Ivan: We haven't done that in many years, so I just want to take out that reference.

1489
01:30:27.120 --> 01:30:32.160
Ivan: Go doing scoffing at the word stakeholder we don't have stakeholder meetings anymore.

1490
01:30:32.940 --> 01:30:34.800
Oliver Fries: Okay yeah.

1491
01:30:35.010 --> 01:30:36.360
Oliver Fries: Okay yeah.

1492
01:30:37.230 --> 01:30:37.590
Ivan: All right.

1493
01:30:39.240 --> 01:30:39.630
Ivan: Now.

1494
01:30:42.330 --> 01:30:50.400
Ivan: Now, Jim had a problem actually he's a Melissa Jim had a problem with one of the things here, let me explain to you what I did.

1495
01:30:52.380 --> 01:30:53.460
Ivan: I mean you're technically.

1496
01:30:53.460 --> 01:31:07.530
Ivan: Right, I wanted to add in a couple of things to the secretary's job because they're not really being done and it doesn't say anywhere who's supposed to do it, one of the jobs to the Secretary should be to make.

1497
01:31:07.560 --> 01:31:11.040
Ivan: sure that the empower like roster.

1498
01:31:11.700 --> 01:31:13.080
Ivan: is kept up to date.

1499
01:31:15.420 --> 01:31:18.240
Ivan: Okay, and it doesn't it just.

1500
01:31:19.290 --> 01:31:22.050
Ivan: Currently says to the roster.

1501
01:31:23.820 --> 01:31:42.570
Ivan: Of the empower la website current and Jim was correct the secretary doesn't have access to the roster at done, it has to be changed by done, but the secretary should be responsible for keeping.

1502
01:31:42.810 --> 01:31:44.340
Ivan: done informed.

1503
01:31:44.700 --> 01:31:46.620
Ivan: anytime there's a roster change.

1504
01:31:48.570 --> 01:31:51.000
Ivan: Okay that's that's quite your thing Jim.

1505
01:31:51.270 --> 01:31:54.240
james murez: Yes, but it shouldn't see be should it should be shell.

1506
01:31:55.590 --> 01:31:57.480
Ivan: Okay well okay.

1507
01:31:57.720 --> 01:32:00.840
james murez: So we're on the same page yes we're on the same page, that is correct.

1508
01:32:01.410 --> 01:32:03.960
james murez: Okay Secretary notify.

1509
01:32:04.170 --> 01:32:10.320
Ivan: Somebody has to have that responsibility or think we got a new board member we've watched a board member change roster.

1510
01:32:10.530 --> 01:32:12.300
james murez: And I were on the same day off.

1511
01:32:13.590 --> 01:32:14.460
Ivan: we're on okay.

1512
01:32:16.380 --> 01:32:20.460
Ivan: The next one, is something that, actually, this is my beef.

1513
01:32:22.770 --> 01:32:23.070
Oliver Fries: guys.

1514
01:32:24.180 --> 01:32:24.720
Ivan: hang on.

1515
01:32:25.530 --> 01:32:30.060
Oliver Fries: tight so you're on the same page on the roster can I show.

1516
01:32:30.300 --> 01:32:31.320
Ivan: You, where it says.

1517
01:32:31.350 --> 01:32:32.820
Ivan: keeps the roster.

1518
01:32:33.120 --> 01:32:41.550
Ivan: yeah all the power elite book current key empower la informed of any roster changes.

1519
01:32:51.090 --> 01:32:51.690
Ivan: Okay.

1520
01:32:51.960 --> 01:32:53.760
Oliver Fries: Then, Jim I can delete your hair right.

1521
01:32:53.820 --> 01:32:54.180
james murez: yeah okay.

1522
01:32:57.720 --> 01:32:57.960
Oliver Fries: Good.

1523
01:32:58.230 --> 01:33:00.090
james murez: yeah that's fine go ahead i'm sorry.

1524
01:33:00.510 --> 01:33:00.840
Oliver Fries: that's okay.

1525
01:33:01.020 --> 01:33:02.550
Oliver Fries: Okay yeah.

1526
01:33:03.840 --> 01:33:04.980
Ivan: So basically take out.

1527
01:33:05.790 --> 01:33:07.680
james murez: Take out terms note, he did.

1528
01:33:08.100 --> 01:33:09.360
Oliver Fries: The other one again.

1529
01:33:09.480 --> 01:33:10.590
Ivan: You know the language.

1530
01:33:10.830 --> 01:33:11.430
Okay.

1531
01:33:12.450 --> 01:33:20.070
Ivan: All right, last one is Secretary maintains and publicizes the board of officers attendance.

1532
01:33:20.070 --> 01:33:24.960
Ivan: record i've been asking for this year and our current Secretary just.

1533
01:33:25.020 --> 01:33:26.100
Ivan: don't want to do them.

1534
01:33:26.460 --> 01:33:27.840
Ivan: I wanted to buy was.

1535
01:33:28.230 --> 01:33:28.470
Ivan: That.

1536
01:33:28.830 --> 01:33:29.880
james murez: They have to we want.

1537
01:33:29.940 --> 01:33:41.490
james murez: Do we want to amend what you're saying slightly to say attendance records and required training expiration dates.

1538
01:33:42.060 --> 01:33:42.570
sure.

1539
01:33:48.660 --> 01:33:51.180
Ivan: But we've been embarrassed by this in the past.

1540
01:33:51.540 --> 01:33:52.950
Elizabeth Wright: Where we thought somebody was.

1541
01:33:53.010 --> 01:33:55.260
Ivan: Too many meetings and it turned out, they didn't.

1542
01:33:55.440 --> 01:33:56.670
Ivan: Go to the Secretary never.

1543
01:33:56.670 --> 01:33:58.920
Ivan: reported it it shouldn't be a monthly.

1544
01:33:58.920 --> 01:34:01.980
Ivan: Report stuck onto the back of the agenda.

1545
01:34:03.330 --> 01:34:04.170
Ivan: Or the Minutes.

1546
01:34:04.770 --> 01:34:13.500
james murez: and actually I think I was reading I was thinking out loud as as I spoke It really should be and required done.

1547
01:34:15.060 --> 01:34:16.560
james murez: department of neighborhood empowerment.

1548
01:34:21.690 --> 01:34:25.350
james murez: What do we call these things are not trainings necessarily, but they are.

1549
01:34:25.830 --> 01:34:27.990
Ivan: Certification mandated.

1550
01:34:28.440 --> 01:34:31.470
james murez: demanded madman mandated.

1551
01:34:34.050 --> 01:34:36.930
james murez: it's not mandated trainings it man mandated.

1552
01:34:39.750 --> 01:34:41.100
james murez: they're not courses.

1553
01:34:41.400 --> 01:34:44.250
Ivan: yeah they're training ethics training financial training.

1554
01:34:45.300 --> 01:34:45.600
james murez: yeah.

1555
01:34:46.620 --> 01:34:49.080
james murez: One of them is a code of conduct and that doesn't make it.

1556
01:34:49.080 --> 01:34:49.320
Elizabeth Wright: As.

1557
01:34:49.350 --> 01:34:50.460
Elizabeth Wright: Well that's part of it you're.

1558
01:34:50.460 --> 01:34:50.820
james murez: Right.

1559
01:34:51.480 --> 01:34:52.170
Ivan: So it's not.

1560
01:34:52.350 --> 01:34:54.660
james murez: it's actually mandatory.

1561
01:34:56.190 --> 01:34:57.660
Elizabeth Wright: Ethics requirements.

1562
01:34:57.900 --> 01:35:00.480
james murez: Man what mandatory requirements.

1563
01:35:01.080 --> 01:35:03.870
james murez: Okay, so it's just a mandatory requirements.

1564
01:35:05.370 --> 01:35:05.880
Ivan: Okay.

1565
01:35:06.480 --> 01:35:07.020
Okay.

1566
01:35:09.840 --> 01:35:10.410
Ivan: Now.

1567
01:35:10.710 --> 01:35:11.880
james murez: If we wait it doesn't say.

1568
01:35:11.910 --> 01:35:14.100
james murez: date we want to have the expiration date.

1569
01:35:15.750 --> 01:35:17.190
Ivan: Well done, give us that.

1570
01:35:17.940 --> 01:35:18.540
james murez: dating is.

1571
01:35:20.640 --> 01:35:21.210
Ivan: done keep.

1572
01:35:21.390 --> 01:35:22.470
Ivan: The record that.

1573
01:35:22.500 --> 01:35:23.160
Ivan: Ivan.

1574
01:35:23.250 --> 01:35:24.480
Ivan: is never accurate.

1575
01:35:24.840 --> 01:35:26.640
james murez: Ivan give me give me a minute.

1576
01:35:27.390 --> 01:35:36.360
james murez: Okay, is attendance records and required done mandatory requirements, but we want to say.

1577
01:35:39.330 --> 01:35:40.200
Elizabeth Wright: The lens with.

1578
01:35:41.310 --> 01:35:42.420
Elizabeth Wright: Compliance with.

1579
01:35:43.320 --> 01:35:45.090
james murez: mandated require here you go.

1580
01:35:46.560 --> 01:35:48.120
Ivan: With that I won't take record.

1581
01:35:48.270 --> 01:35:48.630
Okay.

1582
01:35:49.680 --> 01:35:51.120
james murez: Compliance with.

1583
01:35:55.950 --> 01:35:56.520
james murez: tori.

1584
01:35:58.530 --> 01:35:59.490
james murez: requirements.

1585
01:36:00.720 --> 01:36:01.200
Elizabeth Wright: Okay.

1586
01:36:02.010 --> 01:36:02.940
james murez: let's be nice if we.

1587
01:36:02.970 --> 01:36:04.230
james murez: have now we have the date.

1588
01:36:04.560 --> 01:36:07.980
Ivan: hang on a second give me a second here Lucy.

1589
01:36:08.040 --> 01:36:08.640
Ivan: I couldn't.

1590
01:36:08.670 --> 01:36:10.200
Language from the treasurer.

1591
01:36:12.000 --> 01:36:13.350
Ivan: I put in a couple of extra.

1592
01:36:13.350 --> 01:36:14.970
Ivan: 10 and I don't see you here.

1593
01:36:18.420 --> 01:36:19.470
Ivan: Unless it's under.

1594
01:36:22.920 --> 01:36:25.290
Elizabeth Wright: Well, maybe it's under budget and Finance Committee.

1595
01:36:25.650 --> 01:36:26.040
Ivan: Okay.

1596
01:36:26.160 --> 01:36:27.150
james murez: What are you looking for.

1597
01:36:27.270 --> 01:36:31.530
George Francisco: All right, let's go to another meeting i'm trying to log back in if you guys are still here, otherwise.

1598
01:36:33.480 --> 01:36:37.650
George Francisco: Liz you know, I was not, I was not sold on your little.

1599
01:36:39.480 --> 01:36:40.710
George Francisco: experiment here but.

1600
01:36:40.920 --> 01:36:50.820
George Francisco: You have my compliments because I thought it came out really well as far as your revisions to the compliments, you know yeah.

1601
01:36:52.440 --> 01:37:02.940
George Francisco: I guess people, besides me and Jim should actually including including you Ivan should actually read this stuff before you get to me it's just not that complicated, so you know okay Hats off to.

1602
01:37:04.050 --> 01:37:04.500
George Francisco: me and Jim.

1603
01:37:06.330 --> 01:37:07.770
Ivan: I skipped over one.

1604
01:37:08.850 --> 01:37:09.210
Ivan: So.

1605
01:37:09.270 --> 01:37:10.260
Elizabeth Wright: i'll go back again.

1606
01:37:10.590 --> 01:37:12.270
james murez: Thank you very demanding George.

1607
01:37:12.630 --> 01:37:13.590
very long word.

1608
01:37:15.720 --> 01:37:16.950
Ivan: Okay he's leaving.

1609
01:37:17.850 --> 01:37:18.510
james murez: he's gone.

1610
01:37:19.260 --> 01:37:20.880
Ivan: he's gone all right, do we still.

1611
01:37:21.150 --> 01:37:21.750
Ivan: have to watch.

1612
01:37:21.930 --> 01:37:23.130
Ivan: For him now all over.

1613
01:37:24.150 --> 01:37:25.260
james murez: i'm keeping track.

1614
01:37:25.860 --> 01:37:26.340
Ivan: OK.

1615
01:37:26.370 --> 01:37:27.420
Elizabeth Wright: We have 27.

1616
01:37:28.470 --> 01:37:31.050
Ivan: keep going pressure is fine.

1617
01:37:32.970 --> 01:37:34.740
Ivan: Communications officer is.

1618
01:37:34.770 --> 01:37:35.340
Ivan: Fine.

1619
01:37:35.580 --> 01:37:41.550
Ivan: And there's a whole section in the same the group about the communications and the outreach officer.

1620
01:37:41.640 --> 01:37:44.220
james murez: Right we're not talking about the standing rules let's keep going.

1621
01:37:46.050 --> 01:37:46.680
Ivan: Okay.

1622
01:37:47.400 --> 01:37:49.140
Ivan: Well, I just want you to know there's more.

1623
01:37:49.500 --> 01:37:49.950
Okay.

1624
01:37:54.570 --> 01:37:54.960
Elizabeth Wright: All right.

1625
01:37:55.080 --> 01:37:56.670
Ivan: The only thing we added in.

1626
01:37:57.840 --> 01:37:58.200
Ivan: wanting.

1627
01:37:58.710 --> 01:38:01.350
Ivan: To outreach is if we ever have.

1628
01:38:01.440 --> 01:38:01.740
Ivan: live.

1629
01:38:01.770 --> 01:38:05.940
Ivan: Meetings again the outreach officer is the one that has.

1630
01:38:06.030 --> 01:38:08.730
Ivan: refreshing is responsible for refreshments.

1631
01:38:10.170 --> 01:38:11.370
james murez: that's still there yep.

1632
01:38:12.000 --> 01:38:13.260
Ivan: Anyone have a problem with that.

1633
01:38:13.560 --> 01:38:16.830
james murez: Note let's let the people vote on vote on it, otherwise.

1634
01:38:17.460 --> 01:38:17.970
there.

1635
01:38:19.470 --> 01:38:20.070
Ivan: Oh.

1636
01:38:26.790 --> 01:38:27.360
Ivan: i'm.

1637
01:38:27.480 --> 01:38:28.890
Ivan: On section three.

1638
01:38:30.090 --> 01:38:32.670
Ivan: Okay, so now we're going to get into some.

1639
01:38:32.670 --> 01:38:34.020
Ivan: specific wording.

1640
01:38:34.020 --> 01:38:39.900
Ivan: Here, want to make sure everyone's on the same page, we have two kinds of ways that.

1641
01:38:39.900 --> 01:38:41.310
Ivan: We appoint people.

1642
01:38:41.730 --> 01:38:43.410
Ivan: We have to.

1643
01:38:43.440 --> 01:38:43.650
Be.

1644
01:38:45.030 --> 01:38:46.050
Ivan: Election every two.

1645
01:38:46.050 --> 01:38:46.500
Oliver Fries: years.

1646
01:38:46.830 --> 01:38:48.600
Ivan: Later stakeholders vote on.

1647
01:38:49.140 --> 01:38:50.880
Ivan: Either that's called an election.

1648
01:38:51.060 --> 01:38:52.470
Oliver Fries: I haven't Jim has a question.

1649
01:38:52.980 --> 01:39:01.050
james murez: yeah I haven't you're on Section three election of officers, but there's no there's nothing showing is changed, why are we talking.

1650
01:39:01.110 --> 01:39:03.870
Ivan: I know I understand that you're.

1651
01:39:04.110 --> 01:39:05.130
Ivan: not getting into.

1652
01:39:05.130 --> 01:39:05.430
Ivan.

1653
01:39:07.260 --> 01:39:09.690
james murez: Ivan I don't want to stay on the phone all night.

1654
01:39:09.780 --> 01:39:10.590
james murez: No, no okay.

1655
01:39:11.610 --> 01:39:14.430
james murez: How things were already working in are already okay.

1656
01:39:14.520 --> 01:39:14.880
Elizabeth Wright: All right.

1657
01:39:15.030 --> 01:39:15.870
james murez: already lost.

1658
01:39:16.890 --> 01:39:18.150
Ivan: We already lost weight.

1659
01:39:19.380 --> 01:39:20.760
james murez: Back Ivan let's.

1660
01:39:21.360 --> 01:39:23.550
CJ Cole: motion to accept.

1661
01:39:24.570 --> 01:39:25.050
Elizabeth Wright: Everything.

1662
01:39:26.160 --> 01:39:26.760
Oliver Fries: Okay.

1663
01:39:29.760 --> 01:39:30.180
Oliver Fries: Second.

1664
01:39:33.300 --> 01:39:33.870
Oliver Fries: Somebody.

1665
01:39:35.070 --> 01:39:36.270
james murez: yeah i'll make the motion.

1666
01:39:36.750 --> 01:39:38.460
Oliver Fries: So cj already made the motion we.

1667
01:39:38.490 --> 01:39:39.630
james murez: All second the motion.

1668
01:39:39.660 --> 01:39:44.520
Oliver Fries: OK, I will take all very yes George not there anymore cj.

1669
01:39:46.110 --> 01:39:46.650
Oliver Fries: Is.

1670
01:39:48.450 --> 01:39:49.680
Ivan: approved document that.

1671
01:39:50.430 --> 01:39:53.160
Oliver Fries: approved as amended so we're proving this as amended.

1672
01:39:55.230 --> 01:39:55.890
Oliver Fries: island.

1673
01:39:56.610 --> 01:39:56.880
yeah.

1674
01:39:58.890 --> 01:39:59.250
Oliver Fries: Jim.

1675
01:39:59.730 --> 01:40:03.180
Oliver Fries: Yes, okay passes move into number seven.

1676
01:40:04.560 --> 01:40:09.180
james murez: And and i've been pleased only focus on the blue stuff or the red stuff.

1677
01:40:09.450 --> 01:40:10.770
Ivan: Okay, all right.

1678
01:40:10.800 --> 01:40:13.320
james murez: you're off we don't want to be your own night learning about it.

1679
01:40:13.320 --> 01:40:13.620
Ivan: Right.

1680
01:40:14.070 --> 01:40:15.960
james murez: And I don't either Thank you.

1681
01:40:16.260 --> 01:40:18.210
Ivan: I just wanted to explain the difference.

1682
01:40:18.270 --> 01:40:20.700
james murez: Between the election and Ivan I don't want.

1683
01:40:21.720 --> 01:40:22.740
To get it nevermind.

1684
01:40:23.940 --> 01:40:24.630
Ivan: keep going.

1685
01:40:25.410 --> 01:40:25.740
Oliver Fries: Okay.

1686
01:40:25.860 --> 01:40:26.760
Elizabeth Wright: All right, article.

1687
01:40:27.000 --> 01:40:29.490
Ivan: Seven committees and they're doing.

1688
01:40:32.400 --> 01:40:35.460
Ivan: This change under the article.

1689
01:40:36.240 --> 01:40:41.940
Ivan: about the President, being an ex officio Member on every committee bye bye byes long discussion.

1690
01:40:41.940 --> 01:40:44.160
Ivan: conflict with with land use.

1691
01:40:45.480 --> 01:40:46.890
Ivan: That was approved.

1692
01:40:47.880 --> 01:40:48.390
Ivan: By the.

1693
01:40:48.600 --> 01:40:49.320
Oliver Fries: board.

1694
01:40:50.010 --> 01:40:51.780
Ivan: So he checks standing rule.

1695
01:40:52.020 --> 01:40:52.890
Oliver Fries: So we should just go.

1696
01:40:53.430 --> 01:40:55.530
Oliver Fries: To go then OK next one right.

1697
01:40:55.620 --> 01:40:56.250
Ivan: So what i'm.

1698
01:40:56.280 --> 01:40:57.510
Ivan: asking you here is.

1699
01:40:58.080 --> 01:40:58.830
Ivan: Now, would you.

1700
01:40:58.890 --> 01:41:00.900
Ivan: Like to include it in the body was.

1701
01:41:01.980 --> 01:41:05.220
Oliver Fries: Yes, the board voted on it, so I mean.

1702
01:41:05.310 --> 01:41:06.810
Ivan: The Board voted to have it be.

1703
01:41:06.900 --> 01:41:12.030
Ivan: Standing rule we couldn't change it in the bylaws because we were in the middle of the moratorium.

1704
01:41:12.390 --> 01:41:15.330
james murez: got it now bringing it into the bylaws fine let's keep going.

1705
01:41:15.480 --> 01:41:17.790
Oliver Fries: That sounds good, I think we're all good with that.

1706
01:41:18.420 --> 01:41:20.790
Ivan: Unless anyone has to keep it in the same rules for.

1707
01:41:21.180 --> 01:41:22.920
james murez: Moving it into the bylaws.

1708
01:41:23.010 --> 01:41:23.460
Elizabeth Wright: Okay.

1709
01:41:23.520 --> 01:41:26.280
Ivan: All right, I want to make sure I know what you're doing.

1710
01:41:26.610 --> 01:41:30.510
james murez: No, I look wait wait i've been trying out okay just let me have some peace.

1711
01:41:30.510 --> 01:41:36.060
james murez: Going woman to speak or blocking that was that was sent out.

1712
01:41:37.680 --> 01:41:48.570
james murez: Oliver ask for comments comments were made and submitted back to Oliver all we're talking about is does anybody have a problem with the comments that were submitted back.

1713
01:41:48.780 --> 01:41:54.420
james murez: We don't need okay what was already agreed to by having sent the document out, this is a way.

1714
01:41:55.200 --> 01:41:56.010
Ivan: you're right.

1715
01:41:56.280 --> 01:41:57.420
Ivan: But some of these are.

1716
01:41:57.690 --> 01:41:59.670
Ivan: changes that I made.

1717
01:42:00.000 --> 01:42:01.740
Ivan: And and put them in any way.

1718
01:42:02.040 --> 01:42:02.670
james murez: But they weren't.

1719
01:42:04.170 --> 01:42:05.010
james murez: Everybody.

1720
01:42:06.270 --> 01:42:07.980
Oliver Fries: Everyone already had a chance to review.

1721
01:42:08.040 --> 01:42:09.450
james murez: Everybody had a chance to.

1722
01:42:09.450 --> 01:42:09.900
rewrite.

1723
01:42:11.010 --> 01:42:11.460
Ivan: Okay.

1724
01:42:11.490 --> 01:42:12.990
james murez: You need to review it with.

1725
01:42:12.990 --> 01:42:13.350
Right.

1726
01:42:14.670 --> 01:42:15.210
Elizabeth Wright: one.

1727
01:42:15.360 --> 01:42:17.640
james murez: I don't want to hear you talking anymore okay.

1728
01:42:18.870 --> 01:42:27.330
james murez: All over there is a typo in the last sentence of a there should be a space right there hope stop stop it go down to where it says.

1729
01:42:27.780 --> 01:42:31.050
james murez: That there's a space right there missing, thank you.

1730
01:42:32.700 --> 01:42:34.740
Ivan: All right, Section one.

1731
01:42:36.900 --> 01:42:39.390
Ivan: Create edit how to create.

1732
01:42:39.600 --> 01:42:40.800
Ivan: Standing Committees one.

1733
01:42:40.800 --> 01:42:41.730
Ivan: Originally written.

1734
01:42:42.180 --> 01:42:43.830
Ivan: Okay, so.

1735
01:42:44.190 --> 01:42:46.110
Ivan: These are the standing committees.

1736
01:42:47.460 --> 01:42:49.050
is great of committee.

1737
01:42:51.180 --> 01:42:54.240
Elizabeth Wright: I wanted to put it, that they have to be agenda is this.

1738
01:42:54.240 --> 01:42:58.680
Ivan: joint meeting with the board this we have too many people on outcome.

1739
01:43:01.050 --> 01:43:02.430
Ivan: chaired by production and such.

1740
01:43:02.460 --> 01:43:05.640
Ivan: tender, we took out stakeholder meetings.

1741
01:43:06.120 --> 01:43:07.230
Ivan: Members, we present.

1742
01:43:07.920 --> 01:43:09.600
Ivan: by the members okay.

1743
01:43:12.840 --> 01:43:13.950
Ivan: The Community.

1744
01:43:15.060 --> 01:43:15.750
Ivan: Members.

1745
01:43:18.510 --> 01:43:18.810
Ivan: Oh.

1746
01:43:18.870 --> 01:43:20.250
Ivan: There are for community.

1747
01:43:20.580 --> 01:43:22.860
Ivan: Members that are on.

1748
01:43:24.270 --> 01:43:24.900
Ivan: calm.

1749
01:43:26.160 --> 01:43:27.900
Elizabeth Wright: If they are removed.

1750
01:43:28.620 --> 01:43:31.770
Ivan: From that comment has to be by a majority vote.

1751
01:43:34.470 --> 01:43:35.430
Ivan: Of the board.

1752
01:43:36.510 --> 01:43:38.310
Ivan: Of the Community officers.

1753
01:43:38.550 --> 01:43:39.510
Ivan: Of the board.

1754
01:43:39.750 --> 01:43:41.190
that's how they were appointed.

1755
01:43:43.080 --> 01:43:45.300
Ivan: The Committee cannot throw people off.

1756
01:43:47.130 --> 01:43:48.450
Ivan: That was your upon the engine.

1757
01:43:49.860 --> 01:43:52.410
Ivan: That you thought it should be the members of the committee.

1758
01:43:52.620 --> 01:43:53.550
Ivan: But it's not it's.

1759
01:43:53.640 --> 01:43:54.900
Ivan: members of the board.

1760
01:43:56.160 --> 01:43:57.930
Ivan: The Community members of the board.

1761
01:44:01.050 --> 01:44:03.570
Ivan: Those of their representatives on outcome.

1762
01:44:06.840 --> 01:44:07.410
Ivan: Okay.

1763
01:44:08.340 --> 01:44:12.570
james murez: yeah so then my my comment in the last sentence.

1764
01:44:12.960 --> 01:44:13.380
Ivan: yeah.

1765
01:44:13.470 --> 01:44:15.600
Ivan: be removed yeah.

1766
01:44:17.610 --> 01:44:18.810
james murez: But it's a community.

1767
01:44:18.810 --> 01:44:19.350
Ivan: All right.

1768
01:44:19.950 --> 01:44:21.600
Ivan: Next, one neighborhood committee.

1769
01:44:21.840 --> 01:44:23.220
Oliver Fries: One second so Jim.

1770
01:44:24.840 --> 01:44:29.520
Oliver Fries: I believe, so we so this part gets removed, so I can you say that one more time.

1771
01:44:29.880 --> 01:44:39.330
james murez: yeah so hold so so where it says the the part that's in in what looks to me like purple after the word vote it says by members of the committee.

1772
01:44:40.620 --> 01:44:44.580
james murez: And he's saying that no that's not right and he's correct so just delete that.

1773
01:44:45.720 --> 01:44:46.770
james murez: Okay, but you took the.

1774
01:44:47.160 --> 01:44:47.820
majority.

1775
01:44:49.350 --> 01:44:50.490
james murez: One exit you offered.

1776
01:44:50.490 --> 01:44:51.120
Oliver Fries: Oliver.

1777
01:44:51.330 --> 01:44:54.330
james murez: I thought i've been just a minute Oliver you took out one extra.

1778
01:44:54.330 --> 01:44:55.230
Oliver Fries: Word yeah.

1779
01:45:00.060 --> 01:45:00.330
Oliver Fries: yeah.

1780
01:45:00.600 --> 01:45:01.050
Okay.

1781
01:45:02.190 --> 01:45:02.760
Ivan: Okay.

1782
01:45:03.570 --> 01:45:04.830
neighborhood committee.

1783
01:45:07.290 --> 01:45:08.400
Ivan: we're asking.

1784
01:45:10.380 --> 01:45:11.520
Ivan: Right now.

1785
01:45:11.610 --> 01:45:14.100
Elizabeth Wright: It says within 30 days board being.

1786
01:45:14.100 --> 01:45:17.820
Ivan: seated that would appoint the neighborhood committee.

1787
01:45:18.120 --> 01:45:19.020
Ivan: And we're asking you.

1788
01:45:19.140 --> 01:45:23.730
Ivan: To go to 60 days, because it's really hard to get organized in that.

1789
01:45:23.940 --> 01:45:25.140
Ivan: short amount of time.

1790
01:45:26.880 --> 01:45:27.270
Oliver Fries: Okay.

1791
01:45:27.750 --> 01:45:32.490
Ivan: So neighborhood committee wouldn't start, for it would be the second board meeting basically.

1792
01:45:33.750 --> 01:45:35.490
Ivan: We would appoint the neighborhood many.

1793
01:45:36.000 --> 01:45:36.510
Okay.

1794
01:45:38.340 --> 01:45:39.870
Ivan: we change the election to.

1795
01:45:39.870 --> 01:45:40.860
Ivan: See action.

1796
01:45:42.630 --> 01:45:43.020
Ivan: Then.

1797
01:45:43.080 --> 01:45:46.290
Elizabeth Wright: The rest of that is correct rules.

1798
01:45:46.380 --> 01:45:47.790
Ivan: selections committee.

1799
01:45:51.210 --> 01:45:57.120
Ivan: On the border proposes selection procedures by law, we have to end and amendments.

1800
01:45:59.280 --> 01:46:05.610
Ivan: And then committee members, shall be selected by the Chair and may be removed by the Chair.

1801
01:46:06.870 --> 01:46:10.290
Ivan: Go board the board does not get to.

1802
01:46:10.320 --> 01:46:11.970
Ivan: Vote on.

1803
01:46:12.270 --> 01:46:13.350
Ivan: who's on the committee.

1804
01:46:14.310 --> 01:46:16.560
james murez: But that's true for all committees isn't I.

1805
01:46:16.560 --> 01:46:17.070
james murez: know.

1806
01:46:17.370 --> 01:46:19.110
Ivan: look like you know we've been traveling.

1807
01:46:19.650 --> 01:46:20.640
james murez: But when I say.

1808
01:46:21.480 --> 01:46:22.020
Ivan: I want to have.

1809
01:46:22.080 --> 01:46:23.430
Ivan: clarified in the bylaws.

1810
01:46:23.880 --> 01:46:27.750
james murez: Do we want to clarify it for each standing committee or do we just.

1811
01:46:27.750 --> 01:46:29.910
james murez: don't make it as a general rule.

1812
01:46:30.090 --> 01:46:32.850
Oliver Fries: He has it in the rest of the committee's down here at the end.

1813
01:46:33.120 --> 01:46:33.630
Oliver Fries: Okay.

1814
01:46:33.930 --> 01:46:34.920
Ivan: yeah we did that.

1815
01:46:35.670 --> 01:46:35.880
So.

1816
01:46:37.170 --> 01:46:44.010
james murez: I guess what i'm saying and I don't know if i'm getting the right answer it seems like we have it being said over and over again.

1817
01:46:44.610 --> 01:46:45.630
Oliver Fries: yeah.

1818
01:46:46.170 --> 01:46:49.590
james murez: And we don't want to do that I don't think I think we just want to say one time.

1819
01:46:50.220 --> 01:46:51.480
Ivan: All right, here's the problem.

1820
01:46:51.600 --> 01:46:55.050
Ivan: We currently have a stakeholder challenge.

1821
01:46:55.080 --> 01:46:56.190
james murez: I understand that.

1822
01:46:56.190 --> 01:46:57.870
james murez: are missing my point.

1823
01:47:00.510 --> 01:47:00.990
Ivan: Do we have.

1824
01:47:02.100 --> 01:47:03.270
Oliver Fries: Jim you'd want to put it right.

1825
01:47:03.270 --> 01:47:05.190
james murez: Here yeah I would just want to put it.

1826
01:47:05.190 --> 01:47:06.360
up at the beginning yeah we.

1827
01:47:07.740 --> 01:47:08.310
Ivan: Okay.

1828
01:47:08.700 --> 01:47:20.460
james murez: Yes, committee committee chairs, it would be, I mean it's really simple committee chairs that that that select their Committee also have the right to remove their committee.

1829
01:47:21.270 --> 01:47:21.630
Ivan: Right.

1830
01:47:22.260 --> 01:47:26.190
james murez: On their committee and then it's done, and then we don't have it over and over.

1831
01:47:29.280 --> 01:47:29.760
Ivan: Okay.

1832
01:47:32.160 --> 01:47:32.670
Ivan: um.

1833
01:47:34.710 --> 01:47:35.400
Ivan: Well, the.

1834
01:47:36.030 --> 01:47:37.050
Ivan: same the.

1835
01:47:37.950 --> 01:47:38.970
Ivan: same committing.

1836
01:47:39.060 --> 01:47:40.140
Oliver Fries: Ivan hold on, I think.

1837
01:47:41.070 --> 01:47:41.910
james murez: i've been hold on.

1838
01:47:42.120 --> 01:47:46.620
james murez: One SEC committee chairs, who select the members of their committee.

1839
01:47:49.320 --> 01:47:55.650
james murez: shall also have the right to remove members from said committee.

1840
01:47:57.030 --> 01:47:57.540
Ivan: Okay.

1841
01:48:00.150 --> 01:48:05.280
Oliver Fries: And where should I go because we've got I mean we could probably just leave it right there.

1842
01:48:06.840 --> 01:48:08.940
Oliver Fries: Is this goes right into.

1843
01:48:12.390 --> 01:48:15.750
Oliver Fries: We can put it at the bottom below all of it right here, right.

1844
01:48:16.170 --> 01:48:25.620
james murez: yeah now we don't have to We just need to have one place, and then we don't have to have it on every single committee, otherwise we have to have the same wording and it becomes redundant over and over and over.

1845
01:48:26.970 --> 01:48:29.610
Oliver Fries: So you guys good with it down at the bottom.

1846
01:48:31.140 --> 01:48:31.560
james murez: i'm fine.

1847
01:48:32.430 --> 01:48:34.140
Ivan: My concern here.

1848
01:48:34.500 --> 01:48:34.800
Ivan: Is.

1849
01:48:35.040 --> 01:48:37.830
Ivan: You have two committees that are different.

1850
01:48:38.910 --> 01:48:41.100
Ivan: And I don't want them included in that point.

1851
01:48:41.670 --> 01:48:51.180
james murez: You understand if you read the paragraph that Oliver wrote those two committees are not selected by the committee chair.

1852
01:48:51.480 --> 01:48:59.100
james murez: Those committed and that's what it says committee chairs, who select members of their committee.

1853
01:49:00.600 --> 01:49:02.190
Ivan: Okay, it says all right.

1854
01:49:02.580 --> 01:49:04.230
Ivan: yeah Okay, also with that.

1855
01:49:04.320 --> 01:49:07.200
james murez: it's a general catch all it just cleans it up okay.

1856
01:49:07.530 --> 01:49:10.110
Oliver Fries: I agree Okay, so I deleted the rest of them.

1857
01:49:10.440 --> 01:49:10.830
james murez: Okay.

1858
01:49:11.670 --> 01:49:14.070
Ivan: All right, i'll go, let me know when you're ready to move on.

1859
01:49:19.140 --> 01:49:20.400
Oliver Fries: i'm ready so.

1860
01:49:22.410 --> 01:49:24.000
Oliver Fries: Jim you had a note here, though.

1861
01:49:27.600 --> 01:49:31.650
Oliver Fries: Regarding Members really not the executive members, plus others you're.

1862
01:49:31.740 --> 01:49:33.390
james murez: Talking about that you didn't find out so.

1863
01:49:33.390 --> 01:49:38.160
james murez: Overseas administrative i'm trying to read it in an unclean system accountability.

1864
01:49:40.440 --> 01:49:41.460
james murez: says.

1865
01:49:42.990 --> 01:49:46.560
Whole neighborhood purpose krantz review.

1866
01:50:08.280 --> 01:50:10.050
james murez: I don't remember what it was about.

1867
01:50:28.800 --> 01:50:31.050
james murez: Let me know heart, let me get my magnifying glass.

1868
01:50:34.830 --> 01:50:36.270
Oliver Fries: Here, what going to zoom in.

1869
01:50:36.450 --> 01:50:41.580
james murez: yeah I use my makes his bets oh there we go.

1870
01:50:47.190 --> 01:50:48.360
james murez: yeah that's much better.

1871
01:51:13.500 --> 01:51:22.320
james murez: So I Oh, I know what this was the budget and Finance Committee and Ivan this is really I guess more of a question.

1872
01:51:25.320 --> 01:51:31.620
james murez: Are the executive members of the board not required to be on the budget and Finance Committee.

1873
01:51:32.160 --> 01:51:35.880
james murez: No, so there is no it's just always worked out that way.

1874
01:51:36.960 --> 01:51:37.440
Ivan: yeah.

1875
01:51:37.470 --> 01:51:37.980
Ivan: Good though.

1876
01:51:38.610 --> 01:51:42.000
Ivan: They were the only ones interested, but you know no.

1877
01:51:42.540 --> 01:51:46.020
james murez: there's no required alright so, then you can just take my strike my note.

1878
01:51:47.220 --> 01:51:48.480
james murez: Now is more of a question.

1879
01:51:50.520 --> 01:51:50.970
james murez: Thank you.

1880
01:51:52.290 --> 01:51:52.830
Ivan: All right.

1881
01:51:53.220 --> 01:52:00.300
Ivan: Now I added a couple of things in here, because there are other things, that the Committee does that are not written down anywhere and.

1882
01:52:00.390 --> 01:52:04.530
Ivan: We need to make sure they're in there, they they vet.

1883
01:52:04.740 --> 01:52:06.330
Ivan: Naked purpose grants.

1884
01:52:07.860 --> 01:52:08.880
Ivan: regrew all.

1885
01:52:08.880 --> 01:52:12.720
Ivan: Spending applications and identifies which budget.

1886
01:52:12.720 --> 01:52:14.160
Ivan: Line item that coming from.

1887
01:52:14.430 --> 01:52:15.270
james murez: yeah that's fine.

1888
01:52:15.900 --> 01:52:20.610
Ivan: Okay, then committee membership will select okay all right now.

1889
01:52:22.590 --> 01:52:23.640
Elizabeth Wright: I don't know why it's.

1890
01:52:23.640 --> 01:52:25.650
Ivan: In here but it's a note about.

1891
01:52:27.300 --> 01:52:29.700
Ivan: executive never oh next one just it.

1892
01:52:29.790 --> 01:52:31.350
Ivan: Okay, all right now.

1893
01:52:32.160 --> 01:52:33.300
Ivan: outreach and event.

1894
01:52:33.300 --> 01:52:34.350
Ivan: Planning committee.

1895
01:52:35.520 --> 01:52:35.850
Ivan: Good.

1896
01:52:37.560 --> 01:52:38.850
Ivan: suggestion about this.

1897
01:52:38.850 --> 01:52:39.210
one.

1898
01:52:40.830 --> 01:52:41.490
james murez: I just wanna.

1899
01:52:42.060 --> 01:52:43.290
james murez: I just want to pull out the.

1900
01:52:43.290 --> 01:52:45.720
james murez: Extra wording, where it says and event planning.

1901
01:52:45.720 --> 01:52:46.080
Committee.

1902
01:52:47.220 --> 01:52:47.460
james murez: We.

1903
01:52:49.350 --> 01:52:50.130
Oliver Fries: know the same thing.

1904
01:52:50.730 --> 01:52:50.940
Ivan: We.

1905
01:52:51.180 --> 01:52:56.820
Ivan: Do every 15 seconds here to give you the background will discuss them will get have to do something else.

1906
01:52:57.990 --> 01:52:59.910
Ivan: They used to be two separate committees.

1907
01:53:00.930 --> 01:53:02.310
Ivan: Our rituals, a committee.

1908
01:53:03.120 --> 01:53:07.470
Ivan: And event planning was the committee when we rearrange.

1909
01:53:07.500 --> 01:53:09.090
Ivan: The bylaws years ago.

1910
01:53:09.600 --> 01:53:10.620
Ivan: We combine them.

1911
01:53:12.120 --> 01:53:14.430
Ivan: So if you want to take out event.

1912
01:53:14.430 --> 01:53:16.290
Elizabeth Wright: Planning from.

1913
01:53:16.320 --> 01:53:18.690
Ivan: outreach where does it go in.

1914
01:53:19.860 --> 01:53:30.870
james murez: Why are you trying to make it a separate definition an event that the dnc puts on is for stakeholders that is outreach.

1915
01:53:31.110 --> 01:53:31.770
Oliver Fries: I agree.

1916
01:53:31.860 --> 01:53:33.810
Ivan: yeah but someone has.

1917
01:53:33.870 --> 01:53:36.510
Ivan: To be responsible for event planning.

1918
01:53:36.690 --> 01:53:46.260
james murez: It know that it's the outreach person is responsible for it, it says it next sentence, it says town halls and special events, it doesn't have to be in the title.

1919
01:53:48.150 --> 01:53:49.860
Oliver Fries: yeah I agree it's.

1920
01:53:49.920 --> 01:53:50.970
james murez: it's you know, nobody.

1921
01:53:51.000 --> 01:53:51.660
Elizabeth Wright: Look, I pay.

1922
01:53:51.750 --> 01:54:01.980
james murez: All right, oh buddy reverse to the committee as outreach and event planning everybody just refers to it as the outreach committee.

1923
01:54:03.120 --> 01:54:03.480
james murez: yeah.

1924
01:54:03.870 --> 01:54:04.830
Oliver Fries: It says here, it says.

1925
01:54:05.160 --> 01:54:06.660
CJ Cole: I am event.

1926
01:54:06.780 --> 01:54:10.920
Oliver Fries: So special events here so it's it's designed in an outreach.

1927
01:54:12.090 --> 01:54:13.980
Oliver Fries: Right does anyone okay with that.

1928
01:54:14.010 --> 01:54:15.510
james murez: yeah Elizabeth has her hand up.

1929
01:54:15.600 --> 01:54:17.250
Oliver Fries: Was I can't see so.

1930
01:54:17.910 --> 01:54:18.990
james murez: yeah Elizabeth go ahead.

1931
01:54:20.280 --> 01:54:20.790
Elizabeth Wright: Thank you.

1932
01:54:20.940 --> 01:54:22.950
Ivan: I think this is another instance.

1933
01:54:22.950 --> 01:54:26.700
Ivan: Clear informally it's always a third to outreach.

1934
01:54:27.090 --> 01:54:28.290
Ivan: But formally it.

1935
01:54:28.800 --> 01:54:29.070
Elizabeth Wright: Is.

1936
01:54:29.490 --> 01:54:33.150
Elizabeth Wright: A broader title to make sure that event planning is covered.

1937
01:54:34.410 --> 01:54:36.450
james murez: But it says it in the definition.

1938
01:54:37.980 --> 01:54:39.150
Oliver Fries: says, right here, especially.

1939
01:54:39.150 --> 01:54:44.820
james murez: Especially events and all events are special because we don't have any regular events.

1940
01:54:45.210 --> 01:54:45.750
Ivan: Okay.

1941
01:54:46.380 --> 01:54:49.260
Oliver Fries: I agree let's move on, I mean unless anyway.

1942
01:54:49.260 --> 01:54:51.780
james murez: You okay with that Elizabeth or do you think there's an issue.

1943
01:54:52.710 --> 01:54:53.250
Ivan: i'm sorry.

1944
01:54:54.120 --> 01:54:54.600
word.

1945
01:54:56.880 --> 01:54:57.660
Ivan: Let me show her.

1946
01:54:58.020 --> 01:54:58.290
Oliver Fries: I think.

1947
01:54:58.440 --> 01:55:01.200
Oliver Fries: She said what was what was that it.

1948
01:55:01.230 --> 01:55:02.760
Ivan: organizes quarterly.

1949
01:55:02.760 --> 01:55:04.530
Oliver Fries: Broader term special events.

1950
01:55:05.280 --> 01:55:09.180
Ivan: Committee yeah so it's already in there will be in the title.

1951
01:55:10.440 --> 01:55:11.820
Elizabeth Wright: It just has to be changed.

1952
01:55:12.690 --> 01:55:16.470
Ivan: Okay, all right so you're gonna have to go back and look.

1953
01:55:16.470 --> 01:55:18.900
Ivan: Through their can see anywhere else, where it's.

1954
01:55:19.260 --> 01:55:20.010
Ivan: cold it's.

1955
01:55:20.220 --> 01:55:20.970
Oliver Fries: as easy as.

1956
01:55:21.270 --> 01:55:22.140
Ivan: Our weekend event.

1957
01:55:22.680 --> 01:55:25.350
james murez: We can do that we'll do that later let's keep going.

1958
01:55:27.960 --> 01:55:28.530
Oliver Fries: Okay, all right.

1959
01:55:29.520 --> 01:55:31.950
james murez: that's all over that's one for your follow up list.

1960
01:55:32.250 --> 01:55:36.840
james murez: yeah just look for event, whatever it was.

1961
01:55:37.260 --> 01:55:38.580
Oliver Fries: yeah I got it good.

1962
01:55:38.670 --> 01:55:39.480
Ivan: thing okay.

1963
01:55:40.950 --> 01:55:42.720
Elizabeth Wright: Next gland juice and planning.

1964
01:55:43.500 --> 01:55:44.670
Ivan: there's there.

1965
01:55:44.760 --> 01:55:47.220
Ivan: can probably be a whole book written here but.

1966
01:55:47.640 --> 01:55:50.430
Ivan: The only thing that we change it was.

1967
01:55:50.520 --> 01:55:51.690
Ivan: We thought needed to be.

1968
01:55:51.720 --> 01:55:53.910
Ivan: changed once again the.

1969
01:55:54.180 --> 01:55:55.800
Ivan: election process and election.

1970
01:55:55.800 --> 01:55:58.710
Ivan: process that 30 days.

1971
01:55:58.800 --> 01:55:59.880
Ivan: that's wasn't enough.

1972
01:55:59.910 --> 01:56:01.620
Ivan: To get nominations and get the.

1973
01:56:01.620 --> 01:56:06.240
Ivan: Word out to the morn we'd like to have that extended for 60 days.

1974
01:56:08.340 --> 01:56:09.300
Ivan: To look good.

1975
01:56:10.200 --> 01:56:27.300
james murez: Now let me ask you a question, because of the importance of that committee yeah it's it and without trying to understand what the 60 days changes in the past Luke Pack has always stayed in office until the new officers are seated till the new.

1976
01:56:27.600 --> 01:56:30.330
james murez: The next paragraph okay so that's still there.

1977
01:56:31.800 --> 01:56:34.440
james murez: So the replacement yeah yeah okay perfect got it.

1978
01:56:34.470 --> 01:56:35.580
james murez: Okay yep.

1979
01:56:36.600 --> 01:56:37.050
Ivan: alright.

1980
01:56:39.270 --> 01:56:40.560
Ivan: Alright next page.

1981
01:56:45.450 --> 01:56:46.680
Ivan: Officers like.

1982
01:56:49.800 --> 01:56:50.100
Ivan: Oh.

1983
01:56:52.350 --> 01:56:53.460
Oliver Fries: Well, the next thing Jim had.

1984
01:56:54.330 --> 01:56:56.730
Ivan: uploaded the boardwalk okay.

1985
01:56:58.440 --> 01:56:58.800
Oliver Fries: well.

1986
01:57:00.420 --> 01:57:03.000
Oliver Fries: Jen had a note on the ocean firewall committee.

1987
01:57:03.870 --> 01:57:06.300
Oliver Fries: Okay, that was the next thing on our.

1988
01:57:06.300 --> 01:57:07.200
Oliver Fries: So on Jim.

1989
01:57:07.470 --> 01:57:14.070
james murez: Jim know Mike my notice is that way, we just trying to clarify that the ocean front walk committee.

1990
01:57:15.420 --> 01:57:25.020
james murez: Is the boardwalk area, and then a speech which are public spaces, not the private property which falls under loop back.

1991
01:57:26.820 --> 01:57:33.060
Elizabeth Wright: Okay, do you want it i'm perfectly fine with that, and there have been times when they actually.

1992
01:57:33.360 --> 01:57:34.440
Ivan: Did like to.

1993
01:57:35.430 --> 01:57:36.930
Ivan: You know the part Westminster.

1994
01:57:36.930 --> 01:57:39.270
Ivan: parkin's stuff you know.

1995
01:57:39.420 --> 01:57:43.890
Ivan: So i'm perfectly fine with that if you want to draw boundaries for them.

1996
01:57:44.460 --> 01:57:48.720
james murez: But I just wanted to clarify that oceanfront walk is only the public space.

1997
01:57:48.780 --> 01:57:50.760
Ivan: All right, can you write that out.

1998
01:57:51.330 --> 01:57:52.410
james murez: Well, I sort of did.

1999
01:57:56.310 --> 01:57:58.680
Oliver Fries: Do you want me to just write that, as the last sentence that is boy.

2000
01:57:58.680 --> 01:57:59.700
james murez: yeah that's fine.

2001
01:58:03.090 --> 01:58:06.480
james murez: Well, I would, I mean, I would just say that the ocean walk committee.

2002
01:58:07.530 --> 01:58:08.550
james murez: encompasses.

2003
01:58:10.260 --> 01:58:12.450
james murez: The public space.

2004
01:58:15.870 --> 01:58:16.230
james murez: Public.

2005
01:58:17.520 --> 01:58:18.450
james murez: The public land.

2006
01:58:21.210 --> 01:58:21.450
james murez: As.

2007
01:58:21.960 --> 01:58:22.440
Elizabeth Wright: The public.

2008
01:58:22.500 --> 01:58:25.860
Ivan: public space of Venice boardwalk and Venice beach.

2009
01:58:26.400 --> 01:58:28.320
Ivan: Correct okay.

2010
01:58:30.990 --> 01:58:33.510
Ivan: Now, according to your definition and.

2011
01:58:34.200 --> 01:58:36.450
Ivan: This is the reason we started this committee.

2012
01:58:37.260 --> 01:58:38.280
Ivan: It also has to.

2013
01:58:38.280 --> 01:58:39.870
Ivan: include dealing with the vendors.

2014
01:58:41.430 --> 01:58:43.230
james murez: that's in the public space.

2015
01:58:43.410 --> 01:58:44.100
Ivan: Okay, good.

2016
01:58:44.970 --> 01:58:47.850
james murez: You have an extra oh no you don't you got it okay.

2017
01:58:52.290 --> 01:58:52.740
Ivan: What they.

2018
01:58:52.770 --> 01:58:56.220
Ivan: shouldn't be doing is waiting good weather a hotel goes there are not.

2019
01:58:56.220 --> 01:58:58.020
Ivan: Exactly okay.

2020
01:58:58.260 --> 01:59:00.150
james murez: They could do that as part of a joint.

2021
01:59:01.230 --> 01:59:07.980
james murez: project have a joint meeting with the land use, but it is a land private property is land use.

2022
01:59:08.790 --> 01:59:09.300
Okay.

2023
01:59:13.500 --> 01:59:13.980
Ivan: Now.

2024
01:59:14.310 --> 01:59:15.360
Ivan: Be prepared because.

2025
01:59:15.420 --> 01:59:16.380
Ivan: there's a good chance.

2026
01:59:16.440 --> 01:59:18.510
Ivan: that's going to be contested.

2027
01:59:19.080 --> 01:59:20.070
james murez: Going Ivan.

2028
01:59:20.490 --> 01:59:21.210
Okay.

2029
01:59:25.050 --> 01:59:25.920
Ivan: Committee membership.

2030
01:59:27.390 --> 01:59:28.110
Ivan: Okay, good.

2031
01:59:28.890 --> 01:59:29.880
Ivan: arts committee.

2032
01:59:33.300 --> 01:59:33.780
Oliver Fries: Nothing that.

2033
01:59:33.840 --> 01:59:35.460
Ivan: I don't know if I want to get into this.

2034
01:59:35.460 --> 01:59:35.820
Year.

2035
01:59:37.050 --> 01:59:38.850
Ivan: I mean have they actually been meeting.

2036
01:59:40.620 --> 01:59:41.490
Ivan: Do you know, Jim.

2037
01:59:41.670 --> 01:59:42.630
james murez: What are you asking.

2038
01:59:43.140 --> 01:59:45.600
Ivan: As we are to committee been actually meeting.

2039
01:59:47.280 --> 01:59:57.870
james murez: I believe they have had some meetings but I don't believe they've been having them on a regular basis, I don't I think they have to have one every 90 days and I would say they're.

2040
01:59:57.870 --> 01:59:58.320
james murez: Probably.

2041
01:59:58.560 --> 01:59:59.580
james murez: For the next one.

2042
02:00:00.120 --> 02:00:00.720
james murez: But I.

2043
02:00:00.750 --> 02:00:04.920
james murez: You know I can't say for sure and and you know if.

2044
02:00:05.100 --> 02:00:06.000
Ivan: it's just a habit.

2045
02:00:06.180 --> 02:00:06.810
james murez: or a timeout.

2046
02:00:07.470 --> 02:00:08.700
Ivan: Time to remove them.

2047
02:00:08.940 --> 02:00:10.950
james murez: timeout let me, let me back up.

2048
02:00:12.960 --> 02:00:22.650
james murez: The arts committee just had an event on the beach that you know it was their event Dave at Sema did outreach for.

2049
02:00:23.640 --> 02:00:50.130
james murez: In my definition they actually did conduct a V nc event which pretty much is the same thing for an arts committee to do when it is a a formal meeting because they met at the art exhibit and they conducted the art business, the business of the committee is art, so they conducted art.

2050
02:00:51.240 --> 02:01:06.960
james murez: I would argue the DEM having an event where they're doing art is actually a meeting did they did they posted as a brown act posting of who was going to be there yeah they posted that they were having the event more than 72 hours in advance so.

2051
02:01:07.470 --> 02:01:07.920
Elizabeth Wright: Okay.

2052
02:01:08.190 --> 02:01:17.880
james murez: They didn't take a roll call, but that doesn't mean that it couldn't be a meeting they officially started the event because they had the art going on, so I would say.

2053
02:01:18.660 --> 02:01:19.260
Elizabeth Wright: Yes, but.

2054
02:01:19.350 --> 02:01:20.670
Ivan: move on i'm okay.

2055
02:01:23.520 --> 02:01:24.210
Ivan: All right now.

2056
02:01:24.270 --> 02:01:25.680
Ivan: The next is a.

2057
02:01:27.900 --> 02:01:29.700
Elizabeth Wright: General thing about.

2058
02:01:29.910 --> 02:01:32.070
Ivan: The creation of ad hoc committee.

2059
02:01:35.160 --> 02:01:37.200
Ivan: Maybe your server now that's not that important.

2060
02:01:38.550 --> 02:01:39.120
Ivan: which were.

2061
02:01:40.380 --> 02:01:43.410
Elizabeth Wright: OK, the next part comes from done.

2062
02:01:43.680 --> 02:01:44.910
Ivan: In the done template.

2063
02:01:45.420 --> 02:01:51.150
Ivan: The Board may create or may terminate an ad hoc committee.

2064
02:01:51.210 --> 02:01:53.610
Ivan: As needed to deal with temporary issue.

2065
02:01:54.030 --> 02:02:00.630
Ivan: And reported findings conclusions or recommendations to the board and ad hoc committee must.

2066
02:02:00.690 --> 02:02:05.280
Ivan: Have a defined purpose and limited timeframe and carry out a.

2067
02:02:05.280 --> 02:02:06.450
Ivan: specific task.

2068
02:02:07.500 --> 02:02:11.610
Ivan: We added an ad hoc committee shall be terminated automatically if they haven't met.

2069
02:02:11.670 --> 02:02:12.270
90 day.

2070
02:02:13.560 --> 02:02:15.330
Ivan: Ad Hoc Committee show, I have a term of.

2071
02:02:15.810 --> 02:02:21.510
Ivan: This needs to be in here because we've never really codify that ad hoc committees.

2072
02:02:21.900 --> 02:02:25.500
Ivan: shall have a term of one year or.

2073
02:02:25.560 --> 02:02:27.750
Ivan: Until the seeding have a new board.

2074
02:02:28.080 --> 02:02:29.160
Ivan: Whichever comes.

2075
02:02:29.160 --> 02:02:29.790
First.

2076
02:02:31.050 --> 02:02:32.010
Elizabeth Wright: And how committees.

2077
02:02:32.070 --> 02:02:38.250
Ivan: That wish to be renewed for an additional term shall appear before the board prior to their.

2078
02:02:38.280 --> 02:02:42.960
Ivan: termination date and provide a written report describing their activities to.

2079
02:02:42.960 --> 02:02:44.700
Ivan: date and why do they.

2080
02:02:45.630 --> 02:02:49.380
Ivan: Why they sleep renewal done is going to be coming after.

2081
02:02:50.280 --> 02:02:51.300
Ivan: It may not happen right.

2082
02:02:51.300 --> 02:02:57.300
james murez: away worry about it, the question is, can we send it forward to the board this way, the answer is yes let's keep going.

2083
02:02:58.260 --> 02:03:00.090
Ivan: wow i've got everybody else can.

2084
02:03:01.980 --> 02:03:02.820
Elizabeth Wright: you're okay with it.

2085
02:03:02.910 --> 02:03:04.560
Elizabeth Wright: With everybody else okay with this.

2086
02:03:05.700 --> 02:03:06.150
Oliver Fries: Yes.

2087
02:03:06.840 --> 02:03:07.560
Everything right.

2088
02:03:08.640 --> 02:03:09.660
Ivan: Section three.

2089
02:03:10.770 --> 02:03:13.380
Ivan: The changes ad hoc committee members.

2090
02:03:13.770 --> 02:03:15.390
Ivan: shall be selected by the.

2091
02:03:15.390 --> 02:03:18.630
Ivan: chair and they be removed by the Chair.

2092
02:03:19.800 --> 02:03:21.240
Ivan: Anyone have a problem with that.

2093
02:03:21.780 --> 02:03:24.060
Ivan: that's ad hoc committee not standing.

2094
02:03:26.430 --> 02:03:26.940
Ivan: Okay.

2095
02:03:31.320 --> 02:03:31.710
Ivan: What are.

2096
02:03:32.760 --> 02:03:33.990
Ivan: The dnc committee chairs.

2097
02:03:33.990 --> 02:03:35.160
Ivan: responsible for.

2098
02:03:35.160 --> 02:03:40.590
Ivan: Recording and posting agendas dramatic than.

2099
02:03:41.910 --> 02:03:42.420
Ivan: Before.

2100
02:03:45.480 --> 02:03:46.860
yeah that.

2101
02:03:49.650 --> 02:03:52.560
Ivan: can be announcements with committee me in accordance with the.

2102
02:03:52.560 --> 02:03:54.000
Ivan: brown act, in other words.

2103
02:03:54.030 --> 02:03:54.810
They have to poke.

2104
02:03:56.130 --> 02:03:56.550
Ivan: Okay.

2105
02:03:58.350 --> 02:04:00.150
Ivan: And then we're removing the thing about the.

2106
02:04:00.150 --> 02:04:00.930
Secretary.

2107
02:04:02.400 --> 02:04:03.720
Ivan: there's we've covered that earlier.

2108
02:04:05.040 --> 02:04:05.910
Oliver Fries: Should we vote on.

2109
02:04:06.210 --> 02:04:09.750
james murez: actually see where see where you have my comment.

2110
02:04:12.210 --> 02:04:12.480
Ivan: On.

2111
02:04:13.080 --> 02:04:14.070
Ivan: Common I.

2112
02:04:14.670 --> 02:04:17.130
Ivan: don't think he wanted within the bylaws.

2113
02:04:18.600 --> 02:04:18.960
Ivan: That.

2114
02:04:19.560 --> 02:04:21.690
Elizabeth Wright: committee chairs, are responsible for.

2115
02:04:21.690 --> 02:04:22.530
Ivan: Recording.

2116
02:04:22.920 --> 02:04:24.690
james murez: Because no one no I was gonna.

2117
02:04:25.440 --> 02:04:27.420
Ivan: I was going to take precedence.

2118
02:04:29.190 --> 02:04:30.210
Ivan: The committee.

2119
02:04:30.270 --> 02:04:32.730
Ivan: meetings are no longer going to be recorded.

2120
02:04:33.210 --> 02:04:34.080
james murez: yeah I wasn't.

2121
02:04:34.320 --> 02:04:35.220
james murez: I wasn't going.

2122
02:04:35.520 --> 02:04:36.090
I was going.

2123
02:04:37.320 --> 02:04:38.010
CJ Cole: So.

2124
02:04:38.490 --> 02:04:45.480
james murez: yeah and that's what it needs to say that so Oliver if you can take out recording and it needs to be posting agendas.

2125
02:04:46.350 --> 02:04:48.030
james murez: And recordation.

2126
02:04:49.140 --> 02:04:51.660
CJ Cole: of minutes, I was thinking.

2127
02:04:52.410 --> 02:04:58.260
james murez: it's recordation of minutes recordation and posting of minutes.

2128
02:05:00.090 --> 02:05:00.600
Ivan: Okay.

2129
02:05:01.710 --> 02:05:02.100
Ivan: So.

2130
02:05:02.790 --> 02:05:03.990
Elizabeth Wright: All over what know when you're.

2131
02:05:03.990 --> 02:05:04.380
ready.

2132
02:05:05.490 --> 02:05:10.500
james murez: recordation hosting know you have of recordation.

2133
02:05:11.700 --> 02:05:12.180
Oliver Fries: yeah.

2134
02:05:12.360 --> 02:05:14.280
james murez: And posting the first.

2135
02:05:15.630 --> 02:05:17.070
Oliver Fries: And then I should put a comment in here.

2136
02:05:17.520 --> 02:05:19.650
james murez: And then you need a space after minutes.

2137
02:05:19.860 --> 02:05:27.450
Oliver Fries: So posting agendas recordation of posting and posting a minutes and meeting a nap and does that work.

2138
02:05:28.620 --> 02:05:33.390
james murez: yeah sort of meeting announcements is the same thing as the agenda.

2139
02:05:33.720 --> 02:05:34.500
Oliver Fries: So delete it.

2140
02:05:34.860 --> 02:05:36.330
james murez: yeah I don't think we needed at all.

2141
02:05:37.080 --> 02:05:37.620
yeah.

2142
02:05:40.320 --> 02:05:45.960
james murez: The responsible for posting agendas recordation and posting of minutes for their.

2143
02:05:48.990 --> 02:05:49.530
Ivan: minutes.

2144
02:05:50.730 --> 02:05:51.120
Oliver Fries: posting.

2145
02:05:51.870 --> 02:05:53.850
Ivan: The Minutes is coming up under.

2146
02:05:54.360 --> 02:05:56.370
Oliver Fries: Personal agendas recorded.

2147
02:05:57.570 --> 02:05:58.590
edited It makes sense.

2148
02:05:59.910 --> 02:06:01.290
Oliver Fries: For personal agendas.

2149
02:06:06.150 --> 02:06:11.880
james murez: For posting for creating and posting a jet she's really say for creating and posting agendas.

2150
02:06:17.250 --> 02:06:17.820
Ivan: Okay.

2151
02:06:19.740 --> 02:06:23.310
james murez: And and recordation and recording of.

2152
02:06:24.780 --> 02:06:25.500
Oliver Fries: minutes.

2153
02:06:26.880 --> 02:06:29.550
CJ Cole: And i'm in it.

2154
02:06:35.880 --> 02:06:40.020
james murez: But we got to get the word recordation they got there we got required to to.

2155
02:06:40.740 --> 02:06:43.560
james murez: To document what the benefits are that's recordation.

2156
02:06:43.770 --> 02:06:45.780
Oliver Fries: gradient and hosting agendas.

2157
02:06:46.080 --> 02:06:56.190
james murez: We could just take out recordation yeah issues right creating and posting agendas and minutes minutes are defined and minutes are defined separately.

2158
02:06:56.430 --> 02:06:58.980
Oliver Fries: Creating and posting agendas and minutes.

2159
02:07:01.680 --> 02:07:05.970
CJ Cole: And I make a motion that we accept up Article seven.

2160
02:07:06.660 --> 02:07:08.190
CJ Cole: Good as.

2161
02:07:08.700 --> 02:07:09.360
james murez: I can to.

2162
02:07:09.420 --> 02:07:10.320
james murez: let's keep going.

2163
02:07:11.070 --> 02:07:11.550
Oliver Fries: Okay.

2164
02:07:12.210 --> 02:07:16.980
james murez: Voting on Jackson let's just keep going we don't even take a vote by by head, we know who's here.

2165
02:07:20.220 --> 02:07:21.450
Ivan: Alright meetings.

2166
02:07:24.240 --> 02:07:26.010
Ivan: This is from the done template.

2167
02:07:27.240 --> 02:07:31.740
Ivan: meetings are defined by the brown act physical meeting should be held within the counter.

2168
02:07:31.740 --> 02:07:32.640
boundaries.

2169
02:07:34.260 --> 02:07:35.640
Elizabeth Wright: Regular Board of officers.

2170
02:07:35.670 --> 02:07:38.280
Ivan: meeting and she'll be at least every two months.

2171
02:07:39.600 --> 02:07:41.490
Ivan: Maybe two more frequently used to be a.

2172
02:07:41.490 --> 02:07:46.170
Ivan: period of public comments or term length of time format blah blah blah blah blah.

2173
02:07:46.500 --> 02:07:47.010
Ivan: Okay.

2174
02:07:47.490 --> 02:07:48.900
Ivan: Anybody have problems with.

2175
02:07:48.900 --> 02:07:50.640
james murez: That scroll down let's keep going.

2176
02:07:51.690 --> 02:07:52.170
Ivan: alright.

2177
02:07:52.710 --> 02:08:03.990
CJ Cole: Agenda 5131 point something that says it like with the zoom meetings that we had to be within the boundaries of our.

2178
02:08:04.140 --> 02:08:05.880
james murez: yeah but they change that they were the.

2179
02:08:05.880 --> 02:08:06.690
CJ Cole: statement.

2180
02:08:07.050 --> 02:08:08.280
james murez: The stage remove that.

2181
02:08:08.640 --> 02:08:11.730
Ivan: Okay yeah we decided.

2182
02:08:11.730 --> 02:08:14.640
Ivan: To not get into zoom meeting because.

2183
02:08:14.730 --> 02:08:17.220
Ivan: My guess is within a year it's going to change.

2184
02:08:17.460 --> 02:08:18.930
Ivan: yeah okay.

2185
02:08:21.000 --> 02:08:21.960
Ivan: Agenda steady.

2186
02:08:22.410 --> 02:08:24.810
Ivan: At commercial cyber agenda for.

2187
02:08:24.840 --> 02:08:26.280
Ivan: Board of officers being.

2188
02:08:27.120 --> 02:08:31.440
Ivan: Any board member stakeholder computer interested, by any chance.

2189
02:08:31.770 --> 02:08:34.050
Ivan: No words anybody can request the.

2190
02:08:34.050 --> 02:08:35.820
Ivan: matter be placed on the agenda.

2191
02:08:38.460 --> 02:08:38.910
Ivan: While i'm.

2192
02:08:40.350 --> 02:08:44.160
Ivan: Completing submitting what is it.

2193
02:08:44.340 --> 02:08:45.990
Elizabeth Wright: Agenda request form.

2194
02:08:46.230 --> 02:08:46.710
Ivan: Providing.

2195
02:08:46.740 --> 02:08:48.900
Ivan: Long necessary documentation.

2196
02:08:52.080 --> 02:08:52.380
Ivan: That.

2197
02:08:52.710 --> 02:09:03.840
Ivan: This is something Jim that that's been in here for a while I don't know if you've been doing it or not, but when there's an agenda request that doesn't get approved by add.

2198
02:09:05.280 --> 02:09:10.290
Ivan: You, as the Chair are required to notify whoever made that request.

2199
02:09:10.650 --> 02:09:12.090
Ivan: that it has been accepted.

2200
02:09:12.480 --> 02:09:17.760
james murez: I believe this I believe it's the secretary that was responsible for it.

2201
02:09:18.210 --> 02:09:19.830
Ivan: No, it was the approach of it.

2202
02:09:20.100 --> 02:09:28.590
james murez: Okay, I think that part of the problem is, is that we have one individual that likes to send everything to the board and then complains when it doesn't get hurt and.

2203
02:09:29.070 --> 02:09:30.120
Ivan: I understand.

2204
02:09:30.390 --> 02:09:31.800
james murez: And that's because they're not.

2205
02:09:31.950 --> 02:09:33.180
james murez: To be excuse me.

2206
02:09:33.210 --> 02:09:34.800
Ivan: It came to disappear.

2207
02:09:35.730 --> 02:09:36.120
well.

2208
02:09:37.980 --> 02:09:39.180
Ivan: I whoever it is.

2209
02:09:39.270 --> 02:09:39.960
Ivan: And you know.

2210
02:09:40.020 --> 02:09:41.010
Elizabeth Wright: You know I feel.

2211
02:09:41.070 --> 02:09:41.700
james murez: I hear.

2212
02:09:41.760 --> 02:09:53.130
james murez: I know, but I think that the instructions for Agenda requests are very clear on the website, they need to submit it to the individuals to the committee.

2213
02:09:53.400 --> 02:10:00.840
james murez: That they're not to have hear it, and if they continuously avoid that process after being told they need to.

2214
02:10:01.920 --> 02:10:03.420
james murez: i'm not going to worry about them.

2215
02:10:03.990 --> 02:10:04.530
Ivan: Okay.

2216
02:10:04.620 --> 02:10:06.330
james murez: And if they want to complain i'm going to let them.

2217
02:10:06.330 --> 02:10:06.840
Ivan: complain.

2218
02:10:07.020 --> 02:10:09.420
Ivan: you're right, I agree with you.

2219
02:10:09.690 --> 02:10:12.300
Ivan: But this is not about that.

2220
02:10:13.980 --> 02:10:17.760
james murez: Somebody makes him okay look I don't want to get into the argument, I think.

2221
02:10:18.480 --> 02:10:19.170
Ivan: we're not putting it.

2222
02:10:19.230 --> 02:10:20.760
james murez: On the agenda Ivan.

2223
02:10:22.830 --> 02:10:23.430
james murez: Ivan.

2224
02:10:24.390 --> 02:10:26.190
CJ Cole: anybody can do.

2225
02:10:27.240 --> 02:10:32.250
CJ Cole: A request to be on the agenda for me board meeting.

2226
02:10:32.820 --> 02:10:33.240
Ivan: Right.

2227
02:10:33.450 --> 02:10:34.650
CJ Cole: that's the way it reads.

2228
02:10:34.710 --> 02:10:35.820
james murez: that's right and it that's.

2229
02:10:35.820 --> 02:10:36.150
Fine.

2230
02:10:37.200 --> 02:10:39.660
CJ Cole: On the Committee before it goes to born.

2231
02:10:40.140 --> 02:10:42.360
james murez: yeah leave it the way it is it's just fine.

2232
02:10:42.780 --> 02:10:43.110
Jim.

2233
02:10:45.510 --> 02:10:46.650
Oliver Fries: Jim do you want to say something about.

2234
02:10:47.010 --> 02:10:48.300
Ivan: It and again here.

2235
02:10:48.480 --> 02:10:50.220
Ivan: If that come cannot meet.

2236
02:10:51.000 --> 02:10:52.800
Ivan: The President that unilaterally.

2237
02:10:52.800 --> 02:10:55.770
Ivan: create the agenda for a board of officers meeting.

2238
02:10:56.400 --> 02:10:57.420
Ivan: The President has.

2239
02:10:57.420 --> 02:11:02.550
Ivan: Finally, authority over the Ad come agenda which has got that got.

2240
02:11:02.580 --> 02:11:05.010
Ivan: taken out somehow that needs to go back in.

2241
02:11:05.460 --> 02:11:05.820
james murez: Okay.

2242
02:11:05.850 --> 02:11:07.890
Ivan: The presidential have the authority to.

2243
02:11:07.890 --> 02:11:08.790
Elizabeth Wright: override.

2244
02:11:08.820 --> 02:11:09.930
Ivan: The Board agenda.

2245
02:11:10.170 --> 02:11:11.160
Ivan: approved by God.

2246
02:11:11.790 --> 02:11:13.740
james murez: I don't have a problem with that I only have one.

2247
02:11:13.980 --> 02:11:14.760
Ivan: sure you don't.

2248
02:11:15.480 --> 02:11:17.940
Ivan: Where it says things used to be in their.

2249
02:11:18.000 --> 02:11:18.390
james murez: home I don't.

2250
02:11:18.420 --> 02:11:19.470
Ivan: know why they got taken.

2251
02:11:19.470 --> 02:11:19.740
Ivan: out.

2252
02:11:19.800 --> 02:11:20.520
james murez: But hold on.

2253
02:11:20.670 --> 02:11:21.720
Ivan: Let me put it back.

2254
02:11:21.930 --> 02:11:27.690
james murez: Let me ask a technical question yeah we're using the acronym add calm.

2255
02:11:28.260 --> 02:11:40.080
james murez: Right, it is spelled in with an uppercase a and then the rest of its lowercase we don't call it out anywhere prior to this in the document.

2256
02:11:40.590 --> 02:11:54.240
james murez: As add calm in parentheses defining what ad is so up at the top of this, where we're defining what ad copy is at some place I don't know where the first place, we bring in the word administrative committee.

2257
02:11:54.630 --> 02:12:11.280
james murez: It at right after it, it needs to in parentheses say add COM, however we're going to be spelling it if it's uppercase a and uppercase see then that's fine, but we need to get that so the acronym is spelled out wherever the first time in the document it's us.

2258
02:12:11.880 --> 02:12:14.040
Oliver Fries: Okay, so I can do that I can.

2259
02:12:15.720 --> 02:12:16.200
Ivan: All right.

2260
02:12:17.190 --> 02:12:19.950
Ivan: Right, it could be a validation process of trying to.

2261
02:12:20.460 --> 02:12:24.420
Ivan: Be within the region not Community editors.

2262
02:12:26.460 --> 02:12:27.210
Oliver Fries: Jim I did it.

2263
02:12:27.390 --> 02:12:28.170
james murez: Thank you, I saw.

2264
02:12:28.620 --> 02:12:29.010
Oliver Fries: That was.

2265
02:12:30.210 --> 02:12:30.480
Ivan: Good.

2266
02:12:31.170 --> 02:12:32.670
Ivan: Okay, so Jim.

2267
02:12:32.940 --> 02:12:36.930
CJ Cole: is not good So what are the signers are talking about is that on.

2268
02:12:37.200 --> 02:12:38.970
james murez: hold on he's going back to that.

2269
02:12:40.110 --> 02:12:40.530
Ivan: All right.

2270
02:12:41.640 --> 02:12:41.940
Ivan: here.

2271
02:12:42.000 --> 02:12:44.640
james murez: Jim Oliver Oliver chance to catch up.

2272
02:12:46.890 --> 02:12:53.910
james murez: There we go hold it stopped boo to back down a little bit little bit down down down down down down down okay right there the crust the bottom of the screen there you go.

2273
02:12:54.210 --> 02:12:55.350
Oliver Fries: yeah sorry, thank you.

2274
02:12:55.770 --> 02:13:10.410
james murez: So, so my intention here is that when 60 signatures get put onto a piece of paper and they hand in whoever it is the individual that says, I want my motion to go directly to the board.

2275
02:13:11.310 --> 02:13:21.900
james murez: Those people that have signed that document, if somebody wanted to challenge that those people were just random people on the boardwalk that somebody's got to sign up.

2276
02:13:22.740 --> 02:13:34.350
james murez: They are actually stakeholders, by definition of what is the stakeholder in the Community to be able to sign that it gets to go on the boards agenda and that they're not just random people.

2277
02:13:34.440 --> 02:13:37.410
Ivan: Okay, I heard Jim I agree with you.

2278
02:13:39.330 --> 02:13:39.630
Ivan: But.

2279
02:13:39.660 --> 02:13:40.860
Ivan: What can we take.

2280
02:13:40.890 --> 02:13:41.430
Ivan: That and.

2281
02:13:41.520 --> 02:13:42.600
Ivan: and talk about it.

2282
02:13:42.720 --> 02:13:43.920
Ivan: In a standing room.

2283
02:13:45.060 --> 02:13:47.010
CJ Cole: I think that's understanding girls.

2284
02:13:48.630 --> 02:13:51.180
james murez: it's not in the Standing rules and I don't know why we don't.

2285
02:13:52.590 --> 02:13:58.620
james murez: We don't want to leave it here we define what a stakeholder is up above when the city defines what a stakeholder.

2286
02:13:58.650 --> 02:14:12.150
james murez: Right and now all we're saying is that the 60 to 60 signatures that overrides going to add calm and going directly to the board, they just need to be validated stakeholders.

2287
02:14:12.450 --> 02:14:16.110
CJ Cole: I always say 60 validated stakeholders.

2288
02:14:18.090 --> 02:14:34.080
james murez: Okay that's fine I just might know it was like this was something that I read there I didn't know I didn't want to start rewriting the paragraph I just put this in as a note to remind me that to me 60 stakeholders, not being validated was not a you know.

2289
02:14:35.130 --> 02:14:37.920
james murez: And then leave the question of who's going to do the value right but.

2290
02:14:37.980 --> 02:14:38.370
james murez: I haven't had.

2291
02:14:38.670 --> 02:14:40.290
james murez: To come up with a process.

2292
02:14:41.220 --> 02:14:42.840
Ivan: We can we're not gonna do that today.

2293
02:14:42.990 --> 02:14:47.040
james murez: We can do the process we can do the process in the Standing rules, but we.

2294
02:14:47.310 --> 02:14:48.360
Elizabeth Wright: that's what I want to do.

2295
02:14:48.780 --> 02:15:00.720
james murez: Right, we can just put in before right after the word the parentheses 60 or before now, I do with the APP I would do it after there you go and and and put in validated validated stakeholders done.

2296
02:15:03.210 --> 02:15:03.480
Ivan: wake.

2297
02:15:04.260 --> 02:15:04.800
up again.

2298
02:15:07.260 --> 02:15:08.100
Ivan: aren't you.

2299
02:15:09.120 --> 02:15:11.400
james murez: yeah I don't know if we want to do that do we.

2300
02:15:11.880 --> 02:15:12.660
Ivan: fall, they are.

2301
02:15:12.720 --> 02:15:13.350
Elizabeth Wright: they're there.

2302
02:15:14.310 --> 02:15:16.020
Ivan: They have to be inserted yeah.

2303
02:15:16.050 --> 02:15:19.080
james murez: Okay, then there that's fine then they're included yeah.

2304
02:15:21.090 --> 02:15:25.260
james murez: have to be as long as we can validate that they are stakeholders, I think it's fine.

2305
02:15:25.860 --> 02:15:26.280
yeah.

2306
02:15:28.620 --> 02:15:31.770
Ivan: Okay comedian tender shall be created by the committee.

2307
02:15:31.770 --> 02:15:32.850
Ivan: chair, we got that.

2308
02:15:33.270 --> 02:15:34.560
notifications.

2309
02:15:36.000 --> 02:15:42.540
Ivan: On in the Community interest takeovers company in a forum, the Board will abide by.

2310
02:15:42.540 --> 02:15:48.360
Ivan: The Board of neighborhood Commissioners that kind of posting policy yada yada yada yada yeah.

2311
02:15:48.600 --> 02:15:50.730
Elizabeth Wright: Okay minutes.

2312
02:15:51.780 --> 02:15:55.620
Ivan: The Secretary is responsible for producing minutes of general.

2313
02:15:55.620 --> 02:15:56.310
Ivan: board and.

2314
02:15:56.370 --> 02:15:57.480
Ivan: Add calm meetings.

2315
02:15:58.620 --> 02:16:01.200
Ivan: The vm since and and ad hoc committee chairs are.

2316
02:16:01.200 --> 02:16:17.430
Ivan: Responsible minutes of their meetings, the answers Secretary and and chairs, are responsible public posting on the vm website, no later than seven days after the meeting, but not more than 45 days you know.

2317
02:16:18.870 --> 02:16:19.410
Ivan: Okay.

2318
02:16:19.860 --> 02:16:21.270
Ivan: The influence Secretary of the.

2319
02:16:21.270 --> 02:16:28.410
Ivan: responsibility of the job and should poster above where duties are defined.

2320
02:16:29.820 --> 02:16:38.910
james murez: And so what i'm trying to say is, are we duplicating responsibilities above we defined what the secretary was responsible for doing the same actions.

2321
02:16:39.930 --> 02:16:46.050
james murez: And I just don't want to have the the wording be in one place, and then again in a different place but with different words.

2322
02:16:46.500 --> 02:16:50.550
Ivan: OK, so the reason that we did there skim.

2323
02:16:50.850 --> 02:16:51.180
Ivan: Okay.

2324
02:16:51.210 --> 02:16:52.860
Ivan: And this is actually a personal.

2325
02:16:52.860 --> 02:16:54.720
Ivan: thing for me, but.

2326
02:16:54.870 --> 02:16:57.870
Ivan: Any anybody else who succeeds to me it's going to.

2327
02:16:57.870 --> 02:16:59.190
come up with the same problem.

2328
02:17:00.330 --> 02:17:09.240
Ivan: On the one that during a meeting the President says, can you tell me what the ruling is on that, and now I have to pour through the Bible is trying to.

2329
02:17:09.240 --> 02:17:09.930
Ivan: find it.

2330
02:17:10.980 --> 02:17:13.290
Ivan: Okay, which is part of my job.

2331
02:17:14.160 --> 02:17:15.960
Ivan: But I like it.

2332
02:17:16.320 --> 02:17:17.610
Ivan: To be in places.

2333
02:17:17.610 --> 02:17:19.770
Ivan: Where i'm like logically look for it.

2334
02:17:21.240 --> 02:17:23.190
Ivan: I can't read through the whole bylaws.

2335
02:17:23.550 --> 02:17:25.650
Ivan: By then, the meeting is over, you know.

2336
02:17:25.680 --> 02:17:35.190
james murez: So the question is, are we defining Oliver can you scroll up to where the definition of what the secretary's responsibilities are.

2337
02:17:45.450 --> 02:17:46.920
james murez: should be right about there.

2338
02:17:48.720 --> 02:17:49.470
Ivan: No keep going.

2339
02:17:53.820 --> 02:17:54.390
Ivan: One more.

2340
02:17:55.230 --> 02:17:56.040
Ivan: Okay yeah.

2341
02:17:56.070 --> 02:17:59.400
james murez: scroll there you go go down a little bit more, so we get all of her on the screen.

2342
02:18:00.450 --> 02:18:05.190
james murez: No, no scroll down a little bit, so we can see the whole Secretary responsibilities.

2343
02:18:10.530 --> 02:18:13.050
CJ Cole: No later than seven days.

2344
02:18:13.110 --> 02:18:14.520
james murez: So you see it says.

2345
02:18:14.640 --> 02:18:16.440
CJ Cole: Four and 45.

2346
02:18:16.680 --> 02:18:18.270
Oliver Fries: that's confusing to me, too, but.

2347
02:18:18.990 --> 02:18:19.590
james murez: I think.

2348
02:18:20.610 --> 02:18:20.850
Oliver Fries: well.

2349
02:18:21.390 --> 02:18:37.830
james murez: cj Oliver hold on just one second we'll get that right, in a minute I think what we want to say is the responsibility of producing accurate minutes of the board of officers and administrative committee meetings and ended at that and the Minutes are defined down below.

2350
02:18:39.420 --> 02:18:44.880
james murez: And there was we don't need to redefine this is exactly what I was saying we don't need to redefine.

2351
02:18:45.420 --> 02:18:56.820
james murez: The terms of what happens with the meeting what happens with the Minutes in two places so we're defining it here that it's seven days and it, whether or not it's clear language or unclear language.

2352
02:18:57.090 --> 02:19:12.600
james murez: we're defining it here and then we're defining it again down underneath where it says minutes let's just define the let's say that the Secretary is responsible for the board of officer and administrative committee meeting agenda and minutes period.

2353
02:19:13.980 --> 02:19:18.600
james murez: And then, where the agenda is defined and where the Minutes are defined are two separate things.

2354
02:19:18.930 --> 02:19:31.680
james murez: Somebody don't get into what's involved in doing agendas and we don't get into involved in what's in in creating and actually she's not responsible for the agenda she's only responsible for the minutes, so it only.

2355
02:19:32.400 --> 02:19:34.320
Oliver Fries: minutes period so it's fine.

2356
02:19:35.340 --> 02:19:37.050
james murez: Well, we want to take out the part.

2357
02:19:38.190 --> 02:19:42.240
james murez: about submitting for public posting no later than that all that should come out.

2358
02:19:43.590 --> 02:19:45.150
CJ Cole: period after minutes and.

2359
02:19:48.990 --> 02:19:50.730
Elizabeth Wright: It where we put it back in.

2360
02:19:50.970 --> 02:19:52.170
james murez: he's already back in and.

2361
02:19:52.770 --> 02:19:53.640
Elizabeth Wright: how long it.

2362
02:19:54.660 --> 02:19:58.500
james murez: is now defined under minutes now if you scroll back down to minutes it's.

2363
02:19:58.500 --> 02:19:59.850
james murez: defined on their minutes.

2364
02:20:01.770 --> 02:20:03.300
james murez: Now you scroll down two minutes.

2365
02:20:04.110 --> 02:20:04.590
All right.

2366
02:20:06.180 --> 02:20:14.520
james murez: And, and the term minutes, has now been defined, and now, if we want to fix the language of what is 45 days and whatever that we can do separately.

2367
02:20:19.050 --> 02:20:21.000
james murez: So here it's defined what our Minutes.

2368
02:20:23.820 --> 02:20:26.280
james murez: And I don't know that it needs to say Secretary.

2369
02:20:28.080 --> 02:20:29.520
james murez: We don't need to pick on her.

2370
02:20:30.990 --> 02:20:36.360
james murez: It already set it up above so here, where it says dnc Secretary is responsible, that can come out.

2371
02:20:39.990 --> 02:20:50.040
james murez: we're going to make it doesn't need to point to anybody because we already said that on each of the committee, people are responsible for doing theirs, so all we really have to do is is define.

2372
02:20:51.330 --> 02:20:57.420
james murez: What is the responsibility of post to, we have to say minutes Shelby posted.

2373
02:21:00.810 --> 02:21:01.230
Oliver Fries: along.

2374
02:21:04.350 --> 02:21:06.480
Oliver Fries: i'm going to type it here and then i'll put it in.

2375
02:21:06.720 --> 02:21:07.230
Okay.

2376
02:21:10.230 --> 02:21:11.820
james murez: minutes shall be posted.

2377
02:21:14.010 --> 02:21:15.570
james murez: On the dnc website.

2378
02:21:16.890 --> 02:21:18.210
james murez: No later than.

2379
02:21:19.500 --> 02:21:20.700
james murez: Seven days.

2380
02:21:20.850 --> 02:21:22.710
Oliver Fries: got it got it now that I can just copy it in.

2381
02:21:22.860 --> 02:21:23.520
james murez: yeah yeah.

2382
02:21:24.840 --> 02:21:27.540
CJ Cole: But they're two different things.

2383
02:21:27.810 --> 02:21:30.030
CJ Cole: No longer than seven days.

2384
02:21:32.400 --> 02:21:34.410
james murez: Seven days seven days.

2385
02:21:35.910 --> 02:21:36.570
CJ Cole: Okay.

2386
02:21:36.660 --> 02:21:46.230
james murez: After the Minutes at which they were approved, but not more than 45 days after the minute which they were taken so that's actually quite.

2387
02:21:46.650 --> 02:21:57.570
CJ Cole: Happy put okay posting of the Minutes, no later than seven days after the me and which they but not I wish they were approved, yet.

2388
02:21:57.570 --> 02:21:58.770
james murez: Yes, no.

2389
02:21:59.340 --> 02:22:02.550
james murez: Because we don't approve the Minutes until we meet.

2390
02:22:02.730 --> 02:22:09.060
CJ Cole: Then you go on to the next, but now more than 45 days after the meeting and which they were taken.

2391
02:22:09.300 --> 02:22:15.390
james murez: Correct so that means if if if one of the two had that one of those two has to have occurred.

2392
02:22:19.320 --> 02:22:21.240
james murez: So i'm saying it's actually.

2393
02:22:21.600 --> 02:22:27.870
CJ Cole: What they've got a post, the Minutes sooner than the morn approving don't say.

2394
02:22:28.800 --> 02:22:29.070
I.

2395
02:22:30.450 --> 02:22:33.180
james murez: They can post them sooner, but they're not approved.

2396
02:22:34.050 --> 02:22:47.400
CJ Cole: Okay, but then maybe we don't even need no later than seven days they just have to be hosted on no more than 45 days after the meeting in which the heads were taken.

2397
02:22:50.280 --> 02:22:52.770
Oliver Fries: So sorry about the weird formatting i'll figure.

2398
02:22:52.830 --> 02:22:54.300
james murez: you'll fix it later that's fine.

2399
02:22:55.140 --> 02:22:55.800
Oliver Fries: not really.

2400
02:22:56.010 --> 02:23:10.200
james murez: Working okay so see cgm having a hard time I think minutes Shelby posted on the dnc website, no later than seven days after the meeting at which they were approved, but not more than 45 days.

2401
02:23:11.700 --> 02:23:17.700
CJ Cole: But no later than and not more than are both the same thing.

2402
02:23:18.450 --> 02:23:21.450
james murez: No, because let's think about a calendar for a second.

2403
02:23:23.400 --> 02:23:36.420
james murez: If you approve last month's meetings last month of minutes, excuse me at so let me just put in some real dates the February, but again.

2404
02:23:37.470 --> 02:23:40.800
james murez: Minutes are approved in March.

2405
02:23:42.210 --> 02:23:48.240
james murez: there's now seven days after that meeting, which they shall be posted.

2406
02:23:49.290 --> 02:23:50.940
james murez: Free, for whatever reason.

2407
02:23:52.050 --> 02:23:57.150
james murez: We don't have a march median income and the minute still have to be posted.

2408
02:23:57.660 --> 02:24:02.760
james murez: A live in 4545 minutes Okay, do you understand what i'm saying.

2409
02:24:04.110 --> 02:24:07.590
james murez: that's how I read it, and maybe i'm wrong, but I that's how I read it.

2410
02:24:07.860 --> 02:24:09.330
CJ Cole: doesn't read very well.

2411
02:24:09.390 --> 02:24:12.420
james murez: it's not clear, but it's got the right words.

2412
02:24:12.510 --> 02:24:15.510
Oliver Fries: Okay okay so we're good.

2413
02:24:15.780 --> 02:24:21.210
james murez: yep and we took out all of that stuff about the difference of committees and Secretary, because those are defined under.

2414
02:24:21.240 --> 02:24:22.890
each have their own responsibilities.

2415
02:24:24.600 --> 02:24:25.110
Oliver Fries: Okay.

2416
02:24:25.860 --> 02:24:27.810
Oliver Fries: Okay i've right on.

2417
02:24:28.170 --> 02:24:29.280
james murez: ready yep.

2418
02:24:30.360 --> 02:24:36.480
Ivan: Alright section, we had to change the numbering on their reconsideration basically.

2419
02:24:36.690 --> 02:24:39.540
Ivan: we're going to follow the reconsideration.

2420
02:24:39.930 --> 02:24:41.160
Ivan: scribe them robert's rules.

2421
02:24:42.270 --> 02:24:43.020
Ivan: Not didn't help them.

2422
02:24:44.640 --> 02:24:47.940
james murez: Where are you reading now i'm looking at Article nine.

2423
02:24:48.690 --> 02:24:49.560
Ivan: yeah that's.

2424
02:24:49.590 --> 02:24:51.330
Elizabeth Wright: No article still at the end of.

2425
02:24:51.330 --> 02:24:51.930
Ivan: Article a.

2426
02:24:53.190 --> 02:24:54.720
james murez: little bit over Thank you.

2427
02:24:55.140 --> 02:24:58.590
Ivan: All right, let's move on Article nine because.

2428
02:24:58.620 --> 02:24:59.760
Ivan: that's going to go quickly.

2429
02:25:00.300 --> 02:25:00.720
Ivan: Okay.

2430
02:25:01.050 --> 02:25:01.860
Elizabeth Wright: we'll come back.

2431
02:25:01.920 --> 02:25:03.390
Oliver Fries: We need everyone's good.

2432
02:25:07.740 --> 02:25:10.770
Ivan: All right, okay so Lou says.

2433
02:25:11.940 --> 02:25:13.110
Ivan: We need a motion.

2434
02:25:13.530 --> 02:25:16.710
Ivan: To approve article it.

2435
02:25:17.610 --> 02:25:18.570
CJ Cole: out so move.

2436
02:25:19.680 --> 02:25:19.950
james murez: and

2437
02:25:20.010 --> 02:25:20.940
Elizabeth Wright: And also second.

2438
02:25:21.330 --> 02:25:22.050
Elizabeth Wright: I commend the.

2439
02:25:22.080 --> 02:25:23.340
Ivan: Article lady from ended.

2440
02:25:23.910 --> 02:25:24.810
james murez: Okay Elizabeth.

2441
02:25:24.900 --> 02:25:27.990
james murez: amended the amendment okay I got it Thank you Elizabeth.

2442
02:25:29.400 --> 02:25:29.970
Ivan: Okay.

2443
02:25:31.650 --> 02:25:33.120
james murez: we're all on the same page.

2444
02:25:33.210 --> 02:25:33.960
Elizabeth Wright: Alright alright.

2445
02:25:34.200 --> 02:25:34.770
Oliver Fries: Moving on.

2446
02:25:35.250 --> 02:25:37.410
Elizabeth Wright: let's go to Article nine.

2447
02:25:38.400 --> 02:25:40.080
Ivan: which was finances.

2448
02:25:40.260 --> 02:25:43.140
Ivan: Most of this is stuff that was.

2449
02:25:43.200 --> 02:25:46.260
Ivan: defined as a template to change anything.

2450
02:25:49.110 --> 02:25:49.650
Ivan: He.

2451
02:25:49.800 --> 02:25:51.630
Ivan: is either the board of office.

2452
02:25:51.690 --> 02:25:54.870
Elizabeth Wright: Oh, this is something that just came up.

2453
02:25:55.770 --> 02:25:56.190
Ivan: And I.

2454
02:25:56.460 --> 02:25:59.280
Ivan: want to put it in the bylaws to make sure we're clear.

2455
02:26:00.420 --> 02:26:01.170
Ivan: know.

2456
02:26:02.550 --> 02:26:04.350
Elizabeth Wright: These are the board of officers.

2457
02:26:04.590 --> 02:26:04.830
Ivan: or.

2458
02:26:04.860 --> 02:26:09.540
Ivan: Any dnc committee to enter into any contracts or.

2459
02:26:09.540 --> 02:26:10.200
Elizabeth Wright: Agreements.

2460
02:26:10.650 --> 02:26:12.480
Ivan: except through the office of the.

2461
02:26:12.480 --> 02:26:13.470
Ivan: city clerk.

2462
02:26:14.820 --> 02:26:15.480
Ivan: We had this.

2463
02:26:15.540 --> 02:26:17.700
Ivan: happen about the candidate.

2464
02:26:17.700 --> 02:26:18.240
For.

2465
02:26:19.530 --> 02:26:22.830
Ivan: Where the committee took it on themselves to plan a candidate for him.

2466
02:26:25.530 --> 02:26:28.080
james murez: Well, how is that a contract or an agreement.

2467
02:26:28.440 --> 02:26:30.660
Ivan: it's an agreement with the candidates.

2468
02:26:30.720 --> 02:26:30.990
Ivan: To.

2469
02:26:31.140 --> 02:26:32.250
have them appear.

2470
02:26:33.960 --> 02:26:36.660
james murez: yeah you're you're stretching it but okay I don't have a problem.

2471
02:26:36.960 --> 02:26:38.040
james murez: Why i'm suggesting.

2472
02:26:39.000 --> 02:26:40.050
james murez: yeah I don't have a.

2473
02:26:40.050 --> 02:26:44.550
james murez: Private I don't have a problem with it, but I think that you're really kind of reaching that.

2474
02:26:45.000 --> 02:26:50.880
james murez: Anybody that did what was done is actually going to read this and understand that's what you're saying.

2475
02:26:51.000 --> 02:26:51.540
Ivan: well.

2476
02:26:51.600 --> 02:26:53.220
Elizabeth Wright: But when it comes up again.

2477
02:26:53.460 --> 02:26:54.510
james murez: It gives you something.

2478
02:26:54.510 --> 02:26:55.800
Ivan: To have something in.

2479
02:26:56.580 --> 02:26:57.000
Elizabeth Wright: here.

2480
02:26:57.090 --> 02:26:58.170
Ivan: That they can't do it.

2481
02:26:58.530 --> 02:26:58.890
yep.

2482
02:27:02.430 --> 02:27:05.040
Ivan: Alright committees don't have the right to do that.

2483
02:27:05.400 --> 02:27:06.420
james murez: All right, Article 10.

2484
02:27:06.450 --> 02:27:07.560
Ivan: Alright alright so.

2485
02:27:08.640 --> 02:27:10.200
Ivan: Why don't you just.

2486
02:27:10.530 --> 02:27:10.860
Ivan: yeah.

2487
02:27:11.280 --> 02:27:12.600
Ivan: it's almost six o'clock.

2488
02:27:12.810 --> 02:27:13.470
Ivan: yeah we go.

2489
02:27:13.680 --> 02:27:15.390
Elizabeth Wright: let's approve article.

2490
02:27:15.420 --> 02:27:16.050
dying.

2491
02:27:17.070 --> 02:27:18.810
Ivan: And then, I have a couple of.

2492
02:27:18.840 --> 02:27:20.100
Ivan: notes George.

2493
02:27:20.700 --> 02:27:23.910
Ivan: And then we adjourn and we'll have to come to the rescue but.

2494
02:27:25.650 --> 02:27:26.520
Elizabeth Wright: We got a lot done.

2495
02:27:26.970 --> 02:27:29.580
james murez: yeah how many more pages are there.

2496
02:27:29.880 --> 02:27:31.050
Oliver Fries: Were on 17 and 20.

2497
02:27:33.300 --> 02:27:33.540
Elizabeth Wright: More.

2498
02:27:34.110 --> 02:27:39.900
james murez: Get finished, if you stop reading everything everybody else's already read what's in blue.

2499
02:27:40.020 --> 02:27:41.580
Oliver Fries: Listen RON 17 to 22.

2500
02:27:43.020 --> 02:27:44.340
Ivan: we're not going to get through this.

2501
02:27:44.400 --> 02:27:45.750
Ivan: Today in 10 minutes.

2502
02:27:46.680 --> 02:27:47.850
james murez: I don't know why not.

2503
02:27:48.810 --> 02:27:51.210
Ivan: Okay i'll give you one word.

2504
02:27:53.430 --> 02:27:54.330
Ivan: unbiased.

2505
02:27:56.010 --> 02:27:57.180
Ivan: it's gonna take a while to.

2506
02:27:57.210 --> 02:27:58.140
Ivan: figure that out.

2507
02:27:59.760 --> 02:28:02.220
james murez: But in the language what difference does it make.

2508
02:28:06.150 --> 02:28:10.380
james murez: Everybody look i've been we've been going over this and rereading.

2509
02:28:10.530 --> 02:28:11.460
Ivan: information.

2510
02:28:11.520 --> 02:28:18.990
james murez: It was already put out to everybody and they everybody had a chance to read it, this final document it's.

2511
02:28:19.590 --> 02:28:20.850
james murez: Our board.

2512
02:28:21.540 --> 02:28:22.830
Oliver Fries: Oliver yeah.

2513
02:28:22.950 --> 02:28:23.310
Ivan: let's.

2514
02:28:23.400 --> 02:28:24.660
Ivan: let's approve article.

2515
02:28:24.660 --> 02:28:25.980
Oliver Fries: Nine okay.

2516
02:28:26.010 --> 02:28:31.410
Ivan: let's do one thing at a time let's approve Article nine committee wants to keep.

2517
02:28:31.410 --> 02:28:33.720
Ivan: Going i'm Okay, with it, I just.

2518
02:28:34.080 --> 02:28:34.560
You know.

2519
02:28:35.910 --> 02:28:36.330
Oliver Fries: yeah.

2520
02:28:36.420 --> 02:28:36.930
Ivan: that's fine.

2521
02:28:39.870 --> 02:28:40.800
Ivan: Alright, so.

2522
02:28:40.890 --> 02:28:45.600
Ivan: i'll move to approve Article nine, and we didn't change anything there.

2523
02:28:46.890 --> 02:28:47.670
CJ Cole: A second.

2524
02:28:48.390 --> 02:28:53.040
Oliver Fries: Okay, any any objections anybody, but let's move on.

2525
02:28:53.940 --> 02:28:55.650
Ivan: Okay does everybody want to.

2526
02:28:55.650 --> 02:28:56.250
continue.

2527
02:28:58.260 --> 02:28:59.430
james murez: let's just keep going.

2528
02:29:01.110 --> 02:29:01.620
Ivan: Okay.

2529
02:29:03.420 --> 02:29:05.730
Ivan: Right administration elections.

2530
02:29:09.060 --> 02:29:11.610
Ivan: Now the elections will be conducted pursuant.

2531
02:29:11.610 --> 02:29:13.140
Ivan: Talk city ordinances.

2532
02:29:13.470 --> 02:29:16.590
Ivan: because, basically, the city clerk defines what we're going to do.

2533
02:29:19.170 --> 02:29:20.790
Ivan: executive officers.

2534
02:29:22.650 --> 02:29:24.750
are elected by the stakeholders.

2535
02:29:26.790 --> 02:29:27.480
Ivan: candidates.

2536
02:29:27.990 --> 02:29:31.470
Ivan: Stakeholders or 18 years of age, on election day.

2537
02:29:31.620 --> 02:29:32.850
james murez: you're doing it again I.

2538
02:29:32.850 --> 02:29:33.630
Elizabeth Wright: took fishel.

2539
02:29:33.690 --> 02:29:35.580
Ivan: that's the official done language.

2540
02:29:36.120 --> 02:29:41.070
james murez: Ivan you're doing it again we've all had a chance to read this everybody objected.

2541
02:29:41.370 --> 02:29:48.930
Oliver Fries: Because there a way to kind of do it the other route like just anyone who has notes, I mean can we improve the because everyone's already read these and gone through them.

2542
02:29:49.140 --> 02:29:50.790
james murez: yeah we don't.

2543
02:29:51.450 --> 02:29:53.010
james murez: We don't have to keep rereading.

2544
02:29:53.070 --> 02:29:57.000
Oliver Fries: We only have five more minutes of this meeting, technically, and I mean.

2545
02:29:58.170 --> 02:30:00.930
Oliver Fries: I haven't why don't you go over george's notes real quick.

2546
02:30:00.960 --> 02:30:01.710
Ivan: And then okay.

2547
02:30:01.800 --> 02:30:02.670
Ivan: I can do that.

2548
02:30:03.180 --> 02:30:05.760
Oliver Fries: anybody else has any problems and i'm going to post this.

2549
02:30:05.820 --> 02:30:06.420
Oliver Fries: On right.

2550
02:30:06.780 --> 02:30:08.700
Elizabeth Wright: Now he's no to her about different things.

2551
02:30:09.240 --> 02:30:11.700
Oliver Fries: yeah look at those and then call and call it.

2552
02:30:15.150 --> 02:30:16.470
Elizabeth Wright: He has a problem.

2553
02:30:16.530 --> 02:30:18.030
Ivan: With the line about.

2554
02:30:18.480 --> 02:30:20.580
Ivan: No specific stakeholder.

2555
02:30:20.580 --> 02:30:23.010
Ivan: group anyone, you know.

2556
02:30:23.040 --> 02:30:25.590
Elizabeth Wright: stakeholder group cannot hold.

2557
02:30:26.220 --> 02:30:29.250
Ivan: Too many seats on the board, this is done language.

2558
02:30:30.660 --> 02:30:31.200
Oliver Fries: And we're.

2559
02:30:31.290 --> 02:30:31.710
james murez: we're in.

2560
02:30:32.250 --> 02:30:35.670
Ivan: Language for done so I don't recommend we touch it.

2561
02:30:35.850 --> 02:30:37.290
Oliver Fries: Where is it exactly like a.

2562
02:30:38.880 --> 02:30:40.050
james murez: Number and.

2563
02:30:42.060 --> 02:30:43.800
Ivan: there's a sentence in there about.

2564
02:30:43.800 --> 02:30:45.480
Ivan: Defining stakeholders.

2565
02:30:46.200 --> 02:30:46.860
Oliver Fries: I know where.

2566
02:30:46.920 --> 02:30:48.930
Elizabeth Wright: Article five subsection one.

2567
02:30:48.930 --> 02:30:51.330
Oliver Fries: be okay, there you go that's what I was looking for.

2568
02:30:53.520 --> 02:30:53.940
Oliver Fries: Okay.

2569
02:30:54.450 --> 02:30:57.450
Ivan: Okay, so i'm going to suggest.

2570
02:30:58.950 --> 02:31:00.690
Elizabeth Wright: That we leave that alone because.

2571
02:31:00.840 --> 02:31:02.430
Ivan: God has defined it for.

2572
02:31:03.030 --> 02:31:04.170
Ivan: Okay, the next one is.

2573
02:31:04.800 --> 02:31:06.840
Oliver Fries: screen really quick so everyone can see it hold on.

2574
02:31:08.010 --> 02:31:08.430
Ivan: alright.

2575
02:31:08.610 --> 02:31:09.240
Oliver Fries: This thing.

2576
02:31:09.480 --> 02:31:11.100
Elizabeth Wright: And then we'll an Article five.

2577
02:31:11.130 --> 02:31:12.870
Ivan: Section subsection.

2578
02:31:12.900 --> 02:31:13.470
Ivan: One be.

2579
02:31:13.650 --> 02:31:16.830
Oliver Fries: I know i'm just okay subsection one.

2580
02:31:17.910 --> 02:31:20.820
Oliver Fries: Be here we are i'm highlighting it.

2581
02:31:21.900 --> 02:31:27.300
Oliver Fries: George had a note on it, but we're going to leave it because they're done requires it so.

2582
02:31:27.390 --> 02:31:28.170
james murez: Right okay.

2583
02:31:28.200 --> 02:31:29.250
james murez: let's keep going that's.

2584
02:31:29.250 --> 02:31:32.940
Ivan: madness alright so i'm gonna take that out.

2585
02:31:34.140 --> 02:31:35.010
james murez: what's the next one.

2586
02:31:35.430 --> 02:31:37.290
Ivan: The next one is Article eight.

2587
02:31:38.100 --> 02:31:40.020
Elizabeth Wright: subsection a&b.

2588
02:31:43.230 --> 02:31:43.680
Oliver Fries: Okay.

2589
02:31:47.040 --> 02:31:47.700
Oliver Fries: I think i'm there.

2590
02:31:48.240 --> 02:31:48.630
yep.

2591
02:31:49.740 --> 02:31:50.700
Oliver Fries: What does he say.

2592
02:31:51.210 --> 02:31:51.660
Ivan: All right.

2593
02:31:53.910 --> 02:31:54.510
Ivan: Now.

2594
02:31:54.600 --> 02:31:55.860
Ivan: What we did.

2595
02:31:55.920 --> 02:31:58.080
james murez: What it what was george's objection.

2596
02:32:03.090 --> 02:32:03.480
Ivan: All right.

2597
02:32:03.540 --> 02:32:05.160
Elizabeth Wright: He says why did we.

2598
02:32:05.190 --> 02:32:07.080
Ivan: change your mending votes.

2599
02:32:07.110 --> 02:32:07.830
Ivan: threshold.

2600
02:32:08.400 --> 02:32:09.600
Ivan: from two thirds of the.

2601
02:32:09.630 --> 02:32:10.530
Elizabeth Wright: board members.

2602
02:32:10.560 --> 02:32:13.200
Ivan: in attendance to two thirds of board.

2603
02:32:13.200 --> 02:32:15.180
Elizabeth Wright: Members learn.

2604
02:32:15.300 --> 02:32:16.950
Ivan: Full bore of the full board.

2605
02:32:17.220 --> 02:32:18.270
james murez: Where do you see that.

2606
02:32:20.490 --> 02:32:21.750
Ivan: hang on a minute it's.

2607
02:32:25.020 --> 02:32:25.920
james murez: not there at all.

2608
02:32:26.970 --> 02:32:28.680
Ivan: Wait a minute I don't know what happened this.

2609
02:32:28.680 --> 02:32:30.000
Is Kanan separately.

2610
02:32:32.040 --> 02:32:32.670
Ivan: Article.

2611
02:32:35.850 --> 02:32:36.870
Ivan: Where Am I here.

2612
02:32:38.910 --> 02:32:41.040
Ivan: Oracle wait it's under meeting.

2613
02:32:43.500 --> 02:32:43.920
Ivan: And you know.

2614
02:32:44.730 --> 02:32:46.560
james murez: Section one is time and a place.

2615
02:32:46.800 --> 02:32:50.040
james murez: Is there something farther down or this article interest and right there.

2616
02:32:50.460 --> 02:32:50.790
Ivan: yeah.

2617
02:32:50.820 --> 02:32:52.350
Ivan: It would be under amendment.

2618
02:32:53.100 --> 02:32:54.450
Ivan: which we didn't get to you.

2619
02:33:03.900 --> 02:33:04.800
Ivan: Oh it's article.

2620
02:33:04.920 --> 02:33:08.190
Oliver Fries: here's what he's talking about right here passenger the amendment request.

2621
02:33:08.250 --> 02:33:09.390
Ivan: Oh no oh i'm sorry.

2622
02:33:09.600 --> 02:33:10.950
Ivan: Article so.

2623
02:33:11.790 --> 02:33:12.930
Ivan: it's not Article wait.

2624
02:33:13.230 --> 02:33:14.910
Oliver Fries: I got it I got it.

2625
02:33:15.360 --> 02:33:16.020
Ivan: I know.

2626
02:33:16.320 --> 02:33:17.940
Ivan: You want to take notes and.

2627
02:33:18.690 --> 02:33:19.560
Oliver Fries: Yes, all right.

2628
02:33:19.980 --> 02:33:22.260
Elizabeth Wright: Your article eighth amendment.

2629
02:33:25.200 --> 02:33:26.790
Ivan: than what we did here.

2630
02:33:28.530 --> 02:33:29.250
Ivan: There i'm sorry.

2631
02:33:29.310 --> 02:33:30.480
Article 13.

2632
02:33:34.500 --> 02:33:40.200
Oliver Fries: He changed it from the members of the meaning to board members of the medium to the full board.

2633
02:33:40.440 --> 02:33:43.980
james murez: For the two three yeah, why are we doing it to the full board I think he's right.

2634
02:33:44.370 --> 02:33:45.090
Ivan: Because it's a.

2635
02:33:45.180 --> 02:33:46.560
Ivan: it's a higher bar.

2636
02:33:47.520 --> 02:33:49.230
james murez: Why do we want to make it a higher bar.

2637
02:33:50.280 --> 02:33:51.330
Ivan: Because you don't want to.

2638
02:33:51.330 --> 02:33:52.380
Elizabeth Wright: make it easy.

2639
02:33:52.710 --> 02:33:54.180
Ivan: To amending bylaws.

2640
02:33:56.640 --> 02:33:59.100
james murez: Oh, this is amendment to the bylaws.

2641
02:33:59.340 --> 02:33:59.880
Right.

2642
02:34:02.790 --> 02:34:05.550
Ivan: No matter who gets to the board.

2643
02:34:07.050 --> 02:34:09.150
Oliver Fries: Interesting so they they can vote.

2644
02:34:09.180 --> 02:34:11.160
Elizabeth Wright: If they're not at the criteria should be used.

2645
02:34:11.160 --> 02:34:13.200
Elizabeth Wright: for approving or disapproving.

2646
02:34:13.770 --> 02:34:14.100
Can.

2647
02:34:16.230 --> 02:34:19.200
Oliver Fries: Can there be like a proxy or they can send all right.

2648
02:34:19.530 --> 02:34:26.040
Ivan: So there are two things here one is amendment by the Board of officers.

2649
02:34:27.300 --> 02:34:29.100
Ivan: which requires a two thirds.

2650
02:34:29.430 --> 02:34:32.190
Elizabeth Wright: majority vote of the full Board of officers.

2651
02:34:34.590 --> 02:34:35.100
Ivan: and

2652
02:34:35.130 --> 02:34:36.510
Ivan: What we want to change.

2653
02:34:37.350 --> 02:34:38.460
Ivan: The amendment by the.

2654
02:34:38.460 --> 02:34:39.810
stakeholders.

2655
02:34:41.310 --> 02:34:42.450
Ivan: That it should also.

2656
02:34:42.450 --> 02:34:42.930
Elizabeth Wright: Be.

2657
02:34:43.140 --> 02:34:44.100
Ivan: A two thirds.

2658
02:34:44.130 --> 02:34:45.390
Ivan: majority vote.

2659
02:34:45.930 --> 02:34:47.040
Of the full board.

2660
02:34:49.200 --> 02:34:51.480
Ivan: Not all the board members production and.

2661
02:34:51.960 --> 02:34:52.680
james murez: Making for your.

2662
02:34:53.010 --> 02:34:53.910
Oliver Fries: stakeholders.

2663
02:34:54.060 --> 02:34:54.570
james murez: To change.

2664
02:34:55.230 --> 02:34:56.940
Elizabeth Wright: That is the board.

2665
02:34:57.090 --> 02:35:01.230
james murez: Now, when you put in makes perfect sense you don't want the stakeholders.

2666
02:35:02.340 --> 02:35:07.620
james murez: Putting in an amendment and then board officers not showing up and having it changed somehow.

2667
02:35:07.680 --> 02:35:09.090
Oliver Fries: yeah it's good sense.

2668
02:35:09.270 --> 02:35:15.780
james murez: Because you're required you're already requiring the The amendment by board officers that should be the same as board officers.

2669
02:35:16.080 --> 02:35:17.910
Ivan: Right that's that's what we're changing.

2670
02:35:18.030 --> 02:35:20.040
james murez: yeah no that's okay let's keep going.

2671
02:35:20.250 --> 02:35:21.510
Ivan: He wants to know why.

2672
02:35:21.750 --> 02:35:23.310
Ivan: And i'll talk to them explain why.

2673
02:35:23.790 --> 02:35:24.150
james murez: All right.

2674
02:35:24.990 --> 02:35:26.400
Oliver Fries: that's all george's notes right.

2675
02:35:27.480 --> 02:35:29.280
Ivan: that's all in Georgia notes.

2676
02:35:30.690 --> 02:35:32.670
james murez: Okay, so I make a motion that we.

2677
02:35:32.790 --> 02:35:45.180
james murez: accept all of the changes and amendments that we've discussed and seen and haven't seen but were sent out to everybody in writing and everybody had a chance to review them and we just didn't get to reading them all.

2678
02:35:46.020 --> 02:35:50.970
james murez: and its entirety, the entire document and we say that it's Okay, the way it is and be done.

2679
02:35:51.270 --> 02:35:53.580
james murez: So the motion would be to accept the.

2680
02:35:53.700 --> 02:35:54.870
james murez: authentic bylaws.

2681
02:35:54.930 --> 02:35:56.250
james murez: As presented at this.

2682
02:35:58.710 --> 02:36:01.320
Elizabeth Wright: He wants to just accept everything else at this point.

2683
02:36:01.800 --> 02:36:02.190
yeah.

2684
02:36:03.210 --> 02:36:04.080
Oliver Fries: Because we've all seen it.

2685
02:36:04.680 --> 02:36:07.830
james murez: we've all we've all had a chance to look at it and.

2686
02:36:07.980 --> 02:36:14.730
james murez: We have everybody's comments have been incorporated all of yours all of liz's all of mine and all of george's.

2687
02:36:16.530 --> 02:36:20.220
james murez: And it doesn't mean that we won't have an opportunity at the board.

2688
02:36:20.730 --> 02:36:35.100
james murez: To still say gee we forgot to do this, or the other thing it's not going to make it easier at the board but we're going to have a special board meeting to do this anyway, I don't see any reason to continue to procrastinate having but yet one more meeting to go over all of these details.

2689
02:36:35.310 --> 02:36:49.530
CJ Cole: let's see if we're having a special meeting and we're approving submitting the bylaws you, we have to have a two thirds of the full board voting yes, I think, positive.

2690
02:36:53.100 --> 02:36:53.370
Oliver Fries: That.

2691
02:36:53.430 --> 02:36:57.720
james murez: You would have to have a two thirds, yes, because that's already in there that part hasn't changed.

2692
02:36:57.780 --> 02:37:07.500
CJ Cole: Right I wouldn't be a problem if we don't get at least two thirds of our board to show up and all be in favor of it.

2693
02:37:07.650 --> 02:37:08.490
james murez: that's correct.

2694
02:37:10.530 --> 02:37:11.580
james murez: Well, we don't all have.

2695
02:37:12.240 --> 02:37:13.110
Oliver Fries: right we ended up.

2696
02:37:13.470 --> 02:37:14.310
james murez: in favor of it.

2697
02:37:14.700 --> 02:37:19.110
Oliver Fries: Can there be a vote if they're not at the meeting, is there a way to do that sorry it's new but.

2698
02:37:19.650 --> 02:37:23.280
Ivan: Alright, be the amendment by stakeholders.

2699
02:37:23.490 --> 02:37:24.720
Elizabeth Wright: wouldn't apply yet.

2700
02:37:28.950 --> 02:37:29.190
Ivan: yeah.

2701
02:37:30.000 --> 02:37:30.240
He.

2702
02:37:31.440 --> 02:37:32.760
Ivan: meant by the board.

2703
02:37:33.000 --> 02:37:34.200
Ivan: which came from this.

2704
02:37:34.200 --> 02:37:34.860
Ivan: Committee.

2705
02:37:35.460 --> 02:37:36.720
Ivan: would be an amendment by the.

2706
02:37:36.720 --> 02:37:37.260
Elizabeth Wright: board.

2707
02:37:37.530 --> 02:37:41.820
Ivan: And that would apply at this point, this is already in there.

2708
02:37:43.470 --> 02:37:46.170
CJ Cole: A way to do it without to be here we're going to have.

2709
02:37:47.250 --> 02:37:48.330
CJ Cole: good attendance.

2710
02:37:48.450 --> 02:37:51.030
james murez: We have to have 14 yes votes.

2711
02:37:51.540 --> 02:37:51.930
Right.

2712
02:37:53.040 --> 02:38:01.050
james murez: Whether they're in attendance or not doesn't matter, but we have to have 14 people at the board meeting that say yes.

2713
02:38:02.820 --> 02:38:08.040
CJ Cole: At the board meeting, does that mean they have to be on zoom and attendance.

2714
02:38:08.130 --> 02:38:09.780
james murez: Yes, okay.

2715
02:38:11.670 --> 02:38:13.500
CJ Cole: And do they have to be there from the beginning.

2716
02:38:13.590 --> 02:38:20.700
james murez: But if there's only 14 members that's all attend the zoom meeting we don't have to have a 15th Member because for.

2717
02:38:21.450 --> 02:38:23.400
james murez: 14 is two thirds of the majority.

2718
02:38:23.610 --> 02:38:25.140
CJ Cole: yeah available for.

2719
02:38:25.260 --> 02:38:25.950
james murez: If they all vote.

2720
02:38:28.110 --> 02:38:29.790
Oliver Fries: Okay um.

2721
02:38:31.320 --> 02:38:32.640
Oliver Fries: Is there anything else.

2722
02:38:32.700 --> 02:38:36.330
james murez: No, should we take a vote on my on my motion to accept it as presented.

2723
02:38:36.870 --> 02:38:37.140
yeah.

2724
02:38:38.640 --> 02:38:39.510
Ivan: Let me ask you.

2725
02:38:39.540 --> 02:38:40.860
james murez: Something yes.

2726
02:38:41.310 --> 02:38:42.300
Ivan: Before we.

2727
02:38:42.330 --> 02:38:42.990
Ivan: do that.

2728
02:38:43.440 --> 02:38:43.890
Ivan: yeah.

2729
02:38:43.920 --> 02:38:44.790
Elizabeth Wright: i'm not opposed.

2730
02:38:44.850 --> 02:38:45.810
Ivan: To at this point.

2731
02:38:47.400 --> 02:38:53.190
Ivan: I would like to have because of all the emails we've gotten and grievances and everything else.

2732
02:38:53.880 --> 02:38:57.120
Ivan: We talked about removing the word.

2733
02:38:57.750 --> 02:39:00.360
Ivan: unbiased months ago.

2734
02:39:00.690 --> 02:39:01.110
Right.

2735
02:39:03.270 --> 02:39:05.100
james murez: I think you did that in this version.

2736
02:39:05.550 --> 02:39:05.910
Ivan: But.

2737
02:39:05.940 --> 02:39:07.980
No i'm recommending.

2738
02:39:09.360 --> 02:39:10.350
That we do.

2739
02:39:11.970 --> 02:39:12.480
Ivan: Okay.

2740
02:39:13.020 --> 02:39:13.500
Elizabeth Wright: That we.

2741
02:39:13.530 --> 02:39:14.970
Ivan: That we lose to work.

2742
02:39:15.300 --> 02:39:15.840
Ivan: We hadn't.

2743
02:39:15.870 --> 02:39:19.110
Ivan: come to the conclusion that that would be the best solution.

2744
02:39:19.890 --> 02:39:20.370
Ivan: I say.

2745
02:39:20.400 --> 02:39:21.510
Elizabeth Wright: me, but I would.

2746
02:39:21.600 --> 02:39:22.740
I recuse myself.

2747
02:39:24.180 --> 02:39:26.070
Ivan: The committee decided that would be the.

2748
02:39:26.100 --> 02:39:27.360
Ivan: easiest solution.

2749
02:39:27.660 --> 02:39:27.930
Ivan: For.

2750
02:39:27.990 --> 02:39:30.120
james murez: Next problem correct.

2751
02:39:30.810 --> 02:39:35.400
Elizabeth Wright: i'd like to have that resolved before it goes the board one way or another.

2752
02:39:35.670 --> 02:39:39.990
james murez: it's in here is if you're pulling it out isn't it, I thought I read that.

2753
02:39:40.020 --> 02:39:43.680
Elizabeth Wright: yeah yeah the the task force.

2754
02:39:43.950 --> 02:39:47.370
Ivan: is recommending that the solution is to just.

2755
02:39:47.370 --> 02:39:49.110
Ivan: remove the word unbiased.

2756
02:39:49.440 --> 02:39:51.480
Ivan: Correct okay.

2757
02:39:52.050 --> 02:39:58.920
james murez: And that's how this document reads we are adopting this document I don't understand what you're referring to.

2758
02:39:59.490 --> 02:40:00.510
Oliver Fries: yeah I don't see it in there.

2759
02:40:00.600 --> 02:40:01.920
Elizabeth Wright: I just don't want to have any more.

2760
02:40:01.920 --> 02:40:03.480
james murez: Problems I here.

2761
02:40:03.750 --> 02:40:04.620
james murez: But it's not going.

2762
02:40:05.070 --> 02:40:06.480
Ivan: To go doing my job.

2763
02:40:06.960 --> 02:40:13.710
CJ Cole: I didn't really go well, but it's in well and we already talked about it so.

2764
02:40:13.920 --> 02:40:20.130
james murez: Oliver look for Parliament oh you found parliamentarian it digit the word unbiased isn't there anymore yeah.

2765
02:40:20.160 --> 02:40:24.420
Oliver Fries: i'm my computer's starting to lag or something that i'm trying to look for the word.

2766
02:40:24.600 --> 02:40:25.560
james murez: yeah you had it.

2767
02:40:25.620 --> 02:40:26.610
james murez: You had it on a screen.

2768
02:40:26.640 --> 02:40:27.990
CJ Cole: Or how it came out.

2769
02:40:28.110 --> 02:40:31.320
james murez: If you look for Parliament do it do a search for parliamentarian.

2770
02:40:31.860 --> 02:40:34.320
Elizabeth Wright: It would be under parliamentary authority.

2771
02:40:35.100 --> 02:40:35.490
And we.

2772
02:40:39.150 --> 02:40:40.920
james murez: will save it before you lose it all.

2773
02:40:42.090 --> 02:40:45.270
Oliver Fries: Now it's on the screen yeah i've been saving every 30 seconds.

2774
02:40:48.210 --> 02:40:49.350
Oliver Fries: Okay, so it looks like.

2775
02:40:51.240 --> 02:40:52.410
Oliver Fries: They took it out right there.

2776
02:40:53.400 --> 02:40:54.240
james murez: yeah it's gone.

2777
02:40:55.320 --> 02:40:55.800
Ivan: Okay.

2778
02:40:56.460 --> 02:40:57.510
Oliver Fries: So we're good we're.

2779
02:40:57.780 --> 02:41:01.140
james murez: we're adopting okay let's take a vote on adopting the document.

2780
02:41:01.290 --> 02:41:03.330
james murez: As amended and presented here.

2781
02:41:04.050 --> 02:41:04.500
Ivan: All right.

2782
02:41:05.100 --> 02:41:06.930
Ivan: What i'm gonna ask you then.

2783
02:41:07.110 --> 02:41:08.220
james murez: i'm making the motion.

2784
02:41:08.280 --> 02:41:09.360
Oliver Fries: Wait wait wait for him.

2785
02:41:09.720 --> 02:41:10.740
Ivan: So I can wait a minute.

2786
02:41:11.610 --> 02:41:19.020
Ivan: i'm gonna ask you to not include parliamentary is already in your motion because.

2787
02:41:19.080 --> 02:41:21.540
Ivan: I want to recuse myself from that.

2788
02:41:22.890 --> 02:41:24.510
james murez: i'm Okay, with all the rest of it.

2789
02:41:24.690 --> 02:41:26.970
Ivan: And then, if you guys want to do it separately.

2790
02:41:27.090 --> 02:41:27.390
james murez: I will.

2791
02:41:28.170 --> 02:41:29.040
Ivan: Do whatever you want.

2792
02:41:33.750 --> 02:41:35.820
CJ Cole: And I will dwell in separately.

2793
02:41:36.180 --> 02:41:37.470
Ivan: Right yeah could we do that.

2794
02:41:37.470 --> 02:41:37.740
So.

2795
02:41:40.260 --> 02:41:40.830
james murez: Ivan.

2796
02:41:41.070 --> 02:41:41.820
james murez: Quiet for a second.

2797
02:41:42.420 --> 02:41:43.590
james murez: and make a motion.

2798
02:41:44.040 --> 02:41:52.590
james murez: To approve the document as amended and presented here, excluding article 12.

2799
02:41:53.310 --> 02:41:53.700
Right.

2800
02:41:54.930 --> 02:41:55.410
Oliver Fries: Someone.

2801
02:41:55.740 --> 02:41:57.750
james murez: Somebody needs to second Oliver you can't.

2802
02:41:57.840 --> 02:41:58.230
Okay.

2803
02:41:59.250 --> 02:42:00.330
james murez: Thank you cj Allah.

2804
02:42:01.980 --> 02:42:03.990
Oliver Fries: i'm all over says yes.

2805
02:42:05.280 --> 02:42:05.910
Oliver Fries: cj.

2806
02:42:07.320 --> 02:42:07.740
Oliver Fries: Liz.

2807
02:42:10.230 --> 02:42:10.680
Oliver Fries: Liz.

2808
02:42:11.700 --> 02:42:12.150
Elizabeth Wright: yeah.

2809
02:42:13.560 --> 02:42:14.250
Oliver Fries: i've been.

2810
02:42:14.910 --> 02:42:16.560
Oliver Fries: yeah Jim.

2811
02:42:16.890 --> 02:42:18.480
Oliver Fries: Yes, passes.

2812
02:42:18.600 --> 02:42:26.460
james murez: Okay now i'd like to make a separate motion to approve article 12 as presented and amended here.

2813
02:42:29.160 --> 02:42:32.910
Ivan: Thank you Okay, and then I i'm going to recuse myself from this.

2814
02:42:33.390 --> 02:42:34.620
james murez: Okay, thank you.

2815
02:42:35.070 --> 02:42:36.930
Oliver Fries: So all the dresses yes.

2816
02:42:38.280 --> 02:42:39.150
Oliver Fries: cj.

2817
02:42:39.450 --> 02:42:39.870
As.

2818
02:42:41.640 --> 02:42:42.330
Oliver Fries: Is.

2819
02:42:42.960 --> 02:42:46.140
Oliver Fries: Yes, Ivan Ivan accused and.

2820
02:42:46.260 --> 02:42:46.740
Thank you.

2821
02:42:47.880 --> 02:42:48.810
Oliver Fries: To Jim.

2822
02:42:49.050 --> 02:42:52.710
Oliver Fries: Yes, that's four yeses one refusal.

2823
02:42:53.580 --> 02:42:54.480
CJ Cole: or now.

2824
02:42:56.250 --> 02:42:57.000
Ivan: Yes.

2825
02:42:57.450 --> 02:42:58.320
Ivan: yeah only.

2826
02:42:59.760 --> 02:43:03.900
Oliver Fries: 1123 yeah you got five people here so.

2827
02:43:04.170 --> 02:43:06.030
CJ Cole: What about the reviews on doesn't count.

2828
02:43:08.220 --> 02:43:09.960
CJ Cole: So we only have four people voting.

2829
02:43:10.320 --> 02:43:11.130
Oliver Fries: yeah well.

2830
02:43:11.220 --> 02:43:13.650
Ivan: Over cj.

2831
02:43:15.630 --> 02:43:16.500
Ivan: And Jim.

2832
02:43:16.620 --> 02:43:17.730
Elizabeth Wright: So that's a quorum.

2833
02:43:18.480 --> 02:43:21.360
Oliver Fries: Okay yeah yeah we're good okay advances.

2834
02:43:22.620 --> 02:43:23.070
Ivan: Okay.

2835
02:43:23.130 --> 02:43:24.780
Oliver Fries: Good job folks thanks.

2836
02:43:25.800 --> 02:43:26.250
Elizabeth Wright: Jim.

2837
02:43:26.550 --> 02:43:28.410
Ivan: Have, how do you want to handle this.

2838
02:43:28.410 --> 02:43:29.370
Ivan: Moving forward.

2839
02:43:30.660 --> 02:43:31.140
I think.

2840
02:43:32.250 --> 02:43:41.340
james murez: I think the first step is for Oliver to now go back and clean up the things that we talked about he's got a couple things he has to go back and search for.

2841
02:43:41.430 --> 02:43:42.540
Ivan: and cleaner right.

2842
02:43:42.900 --> 02:43:51.840
james murez: You can do that, and then, once that's done, I think he needs to convert it into a PDF document if it shows the revision tracking that would be best.

2843
02:43:52.290 --> 02:44:05.610
james murez: Okay, and and and make it something, then let's publish it and send out a notification to the board that we want to have a meeting.

2844
02:44:06.990 --> 02:44:15.060
james murez: To just discuss this now, you tell me K, I believe, if we post it live on the boards website.

2845
02:44:16.710 --> 02:44:32.640
james murez: And also send a copy as an attachment to all of the Board officers that we haven't violated any brown act, even though we haven't yet had it in a meeting and ask everybody, not to reply all not to reply.

2846
02:44:32.670 --> 02:44:38.520
james murez: Right, except if they have questions that they could reply to all over.

2847
02:44:39.810 --> 02:44:45.540
james murez: To get those questions resolved about anything that was unclear and then do some sort of a.

2848
02:44:46.230 --> 02:44:55.830
james murez: Of a you know they have this program called doodle where everybody can opt into a best meeting date but maybe we could just pick a few meeting dates, to have a special meeting.

2849
02:44:56.490 --> 02:45:05.310
james murez: which would be noticed as a normal meeting but 72 hours in advance, but just to get the amended in an adopted committee.

2850
02:45:06.840 --> 02:45:11.400
james murez: minutes, excuse me by law revisions adopted.

2851
02:45:13.500 --> 02:45:14.010
Ivan: Okay.

2852
02:45:15.660 --> 02:45:15.840
Ivan: Now.

2853
02:45:16.920 --> 02:45:18.300
Elizabeth Wright: Before the the.

2854
02:45:18.450 --> 02:45:19.470
Elizabeth Wright: march board we.

2855
02:45:19.530 --> 02:45:22.260
james murez: Are after I would say we should do it as soon as possible.

2856
02:45:22.590 --> 02:45:23.040
Okay.

2857
02:45:24.540 --> 02:45:26.790
Oliver Fries: got it clean up.

2858
02:45:27.510 --> 02:45:29.250
Ivan: yeah hang on we'll want to say something.

2859
02:45:29.460 --> 02:45:31.680
Elizabeth Wright: Yes, your is something called.

2860
02:45:31.710 --> 02:45:32.220
A master.

2861
02:45:33.600 --> 02:45:34.140
Ivan: and

2862
02:45:35.820 --> 02:45:36.870
Elizabeth Wright: Oliver has been.

2863
02:45:36.930 --> 02:45:38.130
Elizabeth Wright: Making changes.

2864
02:45:39.780 --> 02:45:40.140
Ivan: and

2865
02:45:40.200 --> 02:45:41.370
Elizabeth Wright: I have not seen.

2866
02:45:41.400 --> 02:45:43.140
Elizabeth Wright: Any up the Cross out.

2867
02:45:44.790 --> 02:45:46.350
Ivan: and friend, that.

2868
02:45:46.380 --> 02:45:47.610
Ivan: Normally appears.

2869
02:45:47.610 --> 02:45:48.540
Ivan: When in.

2870
02:45:49.500 --> 02:45:50.550
Ivan: Word you.

2871
02:45:50.610 --> 02:45:51.060
Ivan: Are.

2872
02:45:51.450 --> 02:45:52.650
Making changes.

2873
02:45:54.450 --> 02:45:55.020
Elizabeth Wright: All of her.

2874
02:45:55.980 --> 02:45:57.360
Ivan: going to control the master.

2875
02:45:59.130 --> 02:46:03.780
Oliver Fries: Well, I think I should do you have do not have Microsoft word.

2876
02:46:04.740 --> 02:46:08.130
Ivan: i'm sorry I can't hear you sorry hang on.

2877
02:46:09.000 --> 02:46:11.130
Oliver Fries: I will control the master.

2878
02:46:11.190 --> 02:46:12.150
Oliver Fries: i'm comfortable doing it.

2879
02:46:13.110 --> 02:46:14.670
Ivan: If you want to control the master.

2880
02:46:15.000 --> 02:46:28.740
james murez: yeah so let's have a question, let me just repeat it Liz she is not seeing the revision tracking that she's accustomed to seeing when you publish the PDF.

2881
02:46:29.820 --> 02:46:46.710
james murez: The question I think that needs to be answered is, will the revision tracking show up on the PDF document that you publish so Liz will be able to see what changes were made and compare it to her own notes is that accurate Liz.

2882
02:46:47.190 --> 02:46:48.480
Ivan: That, that is correct.

2883
02:46:48.750 --> 02:46:49.260
Okay.

2884
02:46:50.550 --> 02:46:52.620
Ivan: What is presented to the board.

2885
02:46:52.830 --> 02:46:54.930
Ivan: must have the Cross outs.

2886
02:46:55.410 --> 02:46:57.150
Oliver Fries: yeah agreed.

2887
02:46:58.680 --> 02:46:59.220
Oliver Fries: Usually.

2888
02:46:59.460 --> 02:47:12.030
james murez: So maybe before maybe before we send it out to the board, we can just have an informal conversation about is what has been created and generated acceptable for sending out to the board how's that sound.

2889
02:47:12.330 --> 02:47:15.900
Oliver Fries: Okay, like so check this out guys.

2890
02:47:17.100 --> 02:47:18.630
Oliver Fries: You can see here on my preview.

2891
02:47:19.080 --> 02:47:20.070
james murez: it's really tiny.

2892
02:47:20.490 --> 02:47:23.970
Oliver Fries: So oh it's gonna work, I can see that the track changes are showing up.

2893
02:47:23.970 --> 02:47:24.930
james murez: I think, so too.

2894
02:47:25.200 --> 02:47:25.890
Oliver Fries: we're gonna be fine.

2895
02:47:26.130 --> 02:47:26.550
Okay.

2896
02:47:27.660 --> 02:47:39.720
james murez: And you know what I don't know if it makes it more legible or less legible, but if it may make the comments on the right hand side smaller if you do it in landscape mode instead of in.

2897
02:47:40.230 --> 02:47:44.190
Oliver Fries: portrait mode there you go take a look at this it's good I think it's gonna be good let's.

2898
02:47:44.490 --> 02:47:46.200
james murez: Show everything that's been changed.

2899
02:47:46.500 --> 02:47:46.860
Oliver Fries: yeah.

2900
02:47:47.430 --> 02:47:49.470
Oliver Fries: It doesn't say who did it, but it says.

2901
02:47:50.130 --> 02:47:51.840
james murez: It has the comments out there.

2902
02:47:52.260 --> 02:47:54.030
Oliver Fries: yeah, so this is how we'll do it.

2903
02:47:54.120 --> 02:47:55.470
james murez: Are you able to see that list.

2904
02:47:56.010 --> 02:47:57.240
james murez: Yes, on the screen.

2905
02:47:57.270 --> 02:47:58.470
Ivan: Okay, yes.

2906
02:47:58.830 --> 02:47:59.520
Ivan: I was not.

2907
02:47:59.550 --> 02:48:01.770
Ivan: Aware that that was going on.

2908
02:48:02.190 --> 02:48:03.480
Ivan: yeah as the changes.

2909
02:48:03.510 --> 02:48:16.110
james murez: remain today Okay, so all of her let's get this out as a PDF to the people to the members of the committee with the question does the PDF document look okay to you to publish.

2910
02:48:16.770 --> 02:48:26.850
james murez: With the revision tracking notes attached, there was really just looking for are the revision notes accurate and and acceptable in this format.

2911
02:48:27.990 --> 02:48:38.490
james murez: And if the if the members of the committee say yes, then we'll continue down the other course of getting it out to the rest of the Board and and trying to set a date when we can have a meeting.

2912
02:48:39.000 --> 02:48:40.860
Oliver Fries: That sounds good okay.

2913
02:48:40.950 --> 02:48:41.250
All right.

2914
02:48:43.680 --> 02:48:45.660
Ivan: Oh i'm sorry go on.

2915
02:48:46.350 --> 02:48:47.250
Elizabeth Wright: There is that.

2916
02:48:47.280 --> 02:48:50.250
Ivan: One comment with guarding the.

2917
02:48:50.340 --> 02:48:51.210
Elizabeth Wright: arts committee.

2918
02:48:52.200 --> 02:48:55.440
Ivan: It is only a comment I would like that removed.

2919
02:48:56.910 --> 02:49:01.920
james murez: Okay, do we need to go back and take a vote on real adopting the amended.

2920
02:49:03.360 --> 02:49:04.620
james murez: I don't think so, can you just.

2921
02:49:05.580 --> 02:49:06.690
Elizabeth Wright: it's just a comment yeah.

2922
02:49:06.900 --> 02:49:07.800
Ivan: Just a comment.

2923
02:49:07.830 --> 02:49:08.130
Ivan: Well, we.

2924
02:49:08.190 --> 02:49:08.910
Oliver Fries: Are here.

2925
02:49:09.600 --> 02:49:13.290
Ivan: Committee functioning and that doesn't need to be publicized.

2926
02:49:13.710 --> 02:49:16.440
Oliver Fries: Okay, I think I removed it, but let me just check really.

2927
02:49:17.280 --> 02:49:18.780
james murez: Just make a note let's get done.

2928
02:49:19.080 --> 02:49:20.040
Oliver Fries: yeah let's finish.

2929
02:49:21.480 --> 02:49:21.930
Oliver Fries: Okay.

2930
02:49:22.170 --> 02:49:24.660
james murez: Since i've been did you have one other thing still too.

2931
02:49:24.840 --> 02:49:26.460
Ivan: yeah all over if.

2932
02:49:26.460 --> 02:49:27.780
Ivan: You don't have it already.

2933
02:49:28.080 --> 02:49:29.370
Ivan: The reforms.

2934
02:49:29.430 --> 02:49:31.020
Ivan: that have to be filled out.

2935
02:49:31.800 --> 02:49:36.960
Ivan: If the board approved or for whatever, but to submit the changes.

2936
02:49:37.020 --> 02:49:37.620
Ivan: done.

2937
02:49:37.980 --> 02:49:38.970
Ivan: There are formulas.

2938
02:49:39.060 --> 02:49:40.500
Ivan: And there's a format.

2939
02:49:40.830 --> 02:49:42.180
Ivan: That has to be followed.

2940
02:49:42.750 --> 02:49:45.810
Ivan: Okay Okay, so you need to if you don't have.

2941
02:49:45.810 --> 02:49:51.150
Ivan: It already you can probably get it on the website, how to make your bylaws.

2942
02:49:52.800 --> 02:49:53.100
OK.

2943
02:49:54.600 --> 02:49:55.170
james murez: OK.

2944
02:49:55.470 --> 02:49:57.270
james murez: let's end this meeting all of you.

2945
02:49:57.900 --> 02:49:59.160
james murez: You have to call it you're the.

2946
02:49:59.160 --> 02:50:02.610
Oliver Fries: chair guys meaning to German 614 Thank you all.

2947
02:50:04.680 --> 02:50:06.030
Ivan: Right good job everybody.

2948
02:50:06.900 --> 02:50:08.850
Oliver Fries: Nice work everyone talks about why.