WEBVTT 1 00:00:30.390 --> 00:00:32.730 james murez: i'm promoting people as fast as I can. 2 00:00:33.930 --> 00:00:35.040 james murez: Hold your horses. 3 00:00:43.170 --> 00:00:43.740 Daffodil Tyminski: hi guys. 4 00:00:44.850 --> 00:00:55.230 james murez: hi Oh, I need to make you a Co host and you can help promote people okay they're coming in fast hopefully this will become a short meeting there you go. 5 00:00:56.340 --> 00:00:57.420 james murez: Who is standing know. 6 00:00:58.890 --> 00:01:00.180 james murez: Your promote vicki. 7 00:01:05.130 --> 00:01:07.500 james murez: hold on this is right. 8 00:01:24.000 --> 00:01:26.010 james murez: so hard to do when they're jumping around. 9 00:01:27.510 --> 00:01:29.250 Daffodil Tyminski: there's no one else ready to be promoted. 10 00:01:31.980 --> 00:01:34.380 james murez: i've been several times and it's not promoting him. 11 00:01:35.070 --> 00:01:37.950 Daffodil Tyminski: He usually doesn't I just allow them to talk easily. 12 00:01:39.510 --> 00:01:40.680 Daffodil Tyminski: I think it's a phone issue with. 13 00:01:41.190 --> 00:01:41.580 zoom. 14 00:01:49.530 --> 00:01:50.490 james murez: Know maybe not. 15 00:01:51.810 --> 00:01:53.460 james murez: Oh, you allow him to talk okay. 16 00:01:53.640 --> 00:01:54.150 james murez: yeah. 17 00:01:54.690 --> 00:01:56.340 james murez: And i'm trying to his. 18 00:01:56.370 --> 00:01:58.650 Daffodil Tyminski: he's got a phone issue getting promoted as panelists. 19 00:01:58.980 --> 00:01:59.340 james murez: All right. 20 00:02:00.900 --> 00:02:01.860 james murez: how's your day going. 21 00:02:02.940 --> 00:02:04.770 Daffodil Tyminski: pretty good at went way too fast today. 22 00:02:05.790 --> 00:02:08.040 Daffodil Tyminski: All of a sudden after five o'clock I was like oh no. 23 00:02:08.670 --> 00:02:09.120 No. 24 00:02:10.230 --> 00:02:11.880 james murez: Hopefully this won't be a long meeting. 25 00:02:18.930 --> 00:02:19.530 it's Austin. 26 00:02:58.410 --> 00:03:00.120 Daffodil Tyminski: Alright guys i'm gonna grab some water i'll be right back. 27 00:03:00.420 --> 00:03:01.650 james murez: Okay, I got. 28 00:03:02.280 --> 00:03:03.330 Daffodil Tyminski: cj just got here all. 29 00:03:03.840 --> 00:03:05.850 james murez: Right i'll do it, you go ahead, thanks. 30 00:03:48.660 --> 00:03:51.120 james murez: Slowly I see you but it's jumping around. 31 00:03:53.160 --> 00:03:54.210 james murez: I guess you got it good. 32 00:04:05.070 --> 00:04:06.300 james murez: I see a gym i'm coming. 33 00:04:39.330 --> 00:04:39.780 james murez: Good evening. 34 00:04:39.840 --> 00:04:40.260 hi. 35 00:04:44.220 --> 00:04:45.600 james murez: We don't yet have a quorum. 36 00:06:15.900 --> 00:06:16.500 Alison Bean: i'm on. 37 00:06:17.310 --> 00:06:17.340 A. 38 00:06:19.170 --> 00:06:19.860 Daffodil Tyminski: Farm now. 39 00:06:20.820 --> 00:06:21.870 james murez: yeah I think we've got it. 40 00:06:23.400 --> 00:06:23.850 Vicki Halliday: there. 41 00:06:25.200 --> 00:06:27.540 james murez: i've tried mchale but it's not coming up. 42 00:06:29.550 --> 00:06:30.690 Daffodil Tyminski: Just hold on hear me. 43 00:06:31.710 --> 00:06:33.810 james murez: I can hear somebody who just asked, can I hear you. 44 00:06:34.590 --> 00:06:35.550 Alison Bean: it's alley can you. 45 00:06:35.730 --> 00:06:36.450 Alison Bean: Know i'm on. 46 00:06:36.810 --> 00:06:38.730 james murez: Okay guys, I saw that. 47 00:06:40.470 --> 00:06:41.670 james murez: trying to get mckellen. 48 00:06:44.640 --> 00:06:45.630 Sima Kostovetsky: Can you guys hear me. 49 00:06:46.830 --> 00:06:47.670 Daffodil Tyminski: We can hear you. 50 00:06:48.450 --> 00:06:49.020 Sima Kostovetsky: Thank you. 51 00:06:52.080 --> 00:06:55.950 Daffodil Tyminski: I just turned my video off because what the wind my Internet connections, a little unstable. 52 00:06:57.270 --> 00:06:57.630 james murez: Okay. 53 00:07:00.570 --> 00:07:01.740 All right, there's Macau. 54 00:07:02.880 --> 00:07:09.510 james murez: So how many do we have we have 13, but I think one of those may be Ivan or. 55 00:07:11.880 --> 00:07:13.650 james murez: Are you a panelist Ivan know you're just. 56 00:07:14.160 --> 00:07:14.310 Like. 57 00:07:15.540 --> 00:07:17.850 Ivan Spiegel: I should be, but what do we want to. 58 00:07:18.330 --> 00:07:20.130 james murez: You Well, I can promote you. 59 00:07:22.050 --> 00:07:23.790 james murez: Are you trying Devon oh. 60 00:07:24.240 --> 00:07:28.800 Daffodil Tyminski: No, I was just about to say Kaiser to Ivan when I promote you, you have to accept it. 61 00:07:29.130 --> 00:07:30.450 Ivan Spiegel: Right okay. 62 00:07:30.930 --> 00:07:31.860 james murez: I just tried. 63 00:07:32.490 --> 00:07:32.850 yeah. 64 00:07:34.800 --> 00:07:35.610 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, there you go. 65 00:07:38.310 --> 00:07:42.270 james murez: So if daffodils are you able to view. 66 00:07:44.970 --> 00:07:49.380 james murez: The the part of the attendee list in case more people come and. 67 00:07:49.440 --> 00:07:49.830 Daffodil Tyminski: Otherwise. 68 00:07:50.130 --> 00:07:51.660 Daffodil Tyminski: You can have it i'm on it. 69 00:07:52.320 --> 00:07:52.710 Okay. 70 00:07:54.300 --> 00:07:54.840 james murez: um. 71 00:07:56.610 --> 00:08:02.370 james murez: And i'm going to close that, let me start a thought, I will say if sharing my. 72 00:08:03.540 --> 00:08:05.250 james murez: screen, if I can find it. 73 00:08:07.980 --> 00:08:10.170 james murez: One second everybody, let me get this going. 74 00:08:33.690 --> 00:08:35.010 james murez: Okay um. 75 00:08:36.750 --> 00:08:39.780 james murez: The time is 603. 76 00:08:41.550 --> 00:08:46.620 james murez: And we'll call this special 24 hour notice meeting to order. 77 00:08:47.700 --> 00:08:54.570 james murez: Let me quickly click on this too we can start it as a recording and it's going to ask me to save the file. 78 00:08:55.590 --> 00:08:59.370 james murez: which I have to do somewhere. 79 00:09:02.970 --> 00:09:07.710 james murez: hang on everybody I should have gotten this ready already, but I didn't here we go. 80 00:09:10.530 --> 00:09:12.630 james murez: Good okay i'm here. 81 00:09:14.130 --> 00:09:15.000 james murez: i'm here. 82 00:09:16.740 --> 00:09:17.280 james murez: Melissa. 83 00:09:19.230 --> 00:09:20.460 james murez: Andre here. 84 00:09:21.870 --> 00:09:22.350 james murez: vicki. 85 00:09:24.030 --> 00:09:24.540 james murez: Reno. 86 00:09:24.990 --> 00:09:25.380 here. 87 00:09:26.670 --> 00:09:27.570 james murez: Sema. 88 00:09:28.830 --> 00:09:29.280 Sima Kostovetsky: here. 89 00:09:30.600 --> 00:09:31.080 james murez: You go. 90 00:09:34.680 --> 00:09:35.430 Jim rob. 91 00:09:37.080 --> 00:09:38.460 james murez: You want me to call you James or Jim. 92 00:09:39.090 --> 00:09:40.200 Jim Robb: yeah please. 93 00:09:40.380 --> 00:09:41.370 Jim Robb: Okay, James. 94 00:09:41.910 --> 00:09:42.360 Okay. 95 00:09:43.890 --> 00:09:45.720 james murez: A stand. 96 00:09:47.310 --> 00:09:47.940 james murez: Jason. 97 00:09:49.440 --> 00:09:49.980 james murez: allie. 98 00:09:53.850 --> 00:09:54.750 Daffodil Tyminski: allie is here. 99 00:09:55.290 --> 00:09:56.370 james murez: I know ellie. 100 00:09:56.520 --> 00:09:57.540 james murez: We need you here. 101 00:09:57.990 --> 00:09:59.790 james murez: Perfect Chi. 102 00:10:01.860 --> 00:10:02.310 Chie Lunn: here. 103 00:10:03.030 --> 00:10:04.350 james murez: Thank you Mike. 104 00:10:05.220 --> 00:10:06.780 Alison Bean: Here, can you hear me. 105 00:10:07.590 --> 00:10:10.080 james murez: yeah we can hear you so it out. 106 00:10:10.200 --> 00:10:11.190 soledad ursua: Okay here. 107 00:10:13.080 --> 00:10:13.920 james murez: cj. 108 00:10:16.260 --> 00:10:18.990 james murez: Oliver he said he was not gonna make it Elizabeth. 109 00:10:19.650 --> 00:10:19.980 here. 110 00:10:21.780 --> 00:10:22.800 james murez: Robert timbo. 111 00:10:25.680 --> 00:10:26.160 james murez: Clark. 112 00:10:26.490 --> 00:10:26.880 here. 113 00:10:28.530 --> 00:10:29.250 james murez: And mchale. 114 00:10:31.320 --> 00:10:33.210 michael jensen: Here fresh off my training. 115 00:10:34.170 --> 00:10:37.590 james murez: Great Thank you Okay, so we have a quorum. 116 00:10:40.290 --> 00:10:45.780 james murez: And do we have any ex parte communications, I will start off and say that I had. 117 00:10:46.800 --> 00:11:01.830 james murez: participated in a rack meeting earlier in the week that that also had this same item and I talked to several of the other presidents of neighborhood Councils throughout the West side during that meeting. 118 00:11:02.940 --> 00:11:08.580 james murez: And and pretty much everybody is having an emergency meeting of some sort in the next week. 119 00:11:09.660 --> 00:11:11.190 james murez: or actually within this week. 120 00:11:13.050 --> 00:11:19.230 james murez: Other than that, I think I talked to one or two other people individually. 121 00:11:20.520 --> 00:11:24.240 james murez: outside of that so that's my ex parte communication. 122 00:11:25.590 --> 00:11:27.120 james murez: Not non board members, by the way. 123 00:11:29.820 --> 00:11:31.440 james murez: anybody else vicki go ahead. 124 00:11:31.830 --> 00:11:42.480 Vicki Halliday: And I talked to several board members i'm mostly on to get them to this meeting, to remind them of it, so I did speak with a few people. 125 00:11:43.230 --> 00:11:49.050 james murez: Yes, and thank you for all your outreach efforts at so much appreciated sure that they'll go ahead. 126 00:11:49.590 --> 00:11:50.430 Daffodil Tyminski: I did the same. 127 00:11:52.380 --> 00:11:52.770 Vicki Halliday: thing. 128 00:11:54.180 --> 00:11:54.630 Daffodil Tyminski: As vicki. 129 00:11:55.020 --> 00:11:57.180 clark brown: I hope meeting i've talked to a number of people. 130 00:11:58.020 --> 00:12:00.210 james murez: Very good, thank you, anyone else. 131 00:12:02.910 --> 00:12:03.450 james murez: Okay. 132 00:12:05.190 --> 00:12:07.740 james murez: So that let's let's move on. 133 00:12:08.910 --> 00:12:27.540 james murez: Item number five is the Community impact homelessness shelter Council file 220158 daffodil do you want to go ahead and read the the motion, and then we can get somebody to make we need somebody to make and somebody to second it so maybe you want to read it and make it or. 134 00:12:27.720 --> 00:12:37.620 Daffodil Tyminski: Something or I will make the motion and read it, the Venice neighborhood Council Board of officers opposes the motion and cf two two dash 0158. 135 00:12:38.070 --> 00:12:50.370 Daffodil Tyminski: and specifically opposes any changes to the city zoning regulations that would allow homeless shelters, to be constructed without regard to otherwise applicable zoning restrictions location or consideration of impacts on the Community. 136 00:12:50.970 --> 00:13:01.680 Daffodil Tyminski: We also oppose any proposal to make temporary or interim homeless shelters permanent without regard to otherwise applicable zoning restrictions location or consideration of impacts on the Community. 137 00:13:02.730 --> 00:13:03.540 Do I have a second. 138 00:13:05.700 --> 00:13:06.240 Andrea Boccaletti: Book ready. 139 00:13:07.230 --> 00:13:09.930 james murez: Thank you Andre OK now let's. 140 00:13:12.300 --> 00:13:18.030 james murez: Open this up for public comment daffodil you want to see, we have any hands up show. 141 00:13:18.390 --> 00:13:19.380 james murez: Everybody a couple minutes. 142 00:13:20.280 --> 00:13:22.170 james murez: Your hand, by the way, definitely is up. 143 00:13:24.150 --> 00:13:24.570 james murez: Thank you. 144 00:13:26.310 --> 00:13:27.120 Daffodil Tyminski: Sean o'brien. 145 00:13:28.230 --> 00:13:33.720 Daffodil Tyminski: You know we'd like to keep it going we don't have to time every single one, but if we could um. 146 00:13:34.410 --> 00:13:35.730 james murez: No, should I get the clock up. 147 00:13:37.470 --> 00:13:39.240 Daffodil Tyminski: Well let's see how it goes, I can do. 148 00:13:40.650 --> 00:13:43.140 Daffodil Tyminski: everyone's time i'm Sean o'brien go ahead. 149 00:13:46.770 --> 00:13:51.630 Sean obrien: hey guys yeah thanks support the motion i'm just one quick thing. 150 00:13:52.680 --> 00:14:02.700 Sean obrien: You know the city's a ignored the homeless issue for over 30 years now, they wanted like right in on their on their white horses and save us. 151 00:14:03.120 --> 00:14:13.980 Sean obrien: And they keep putting out all these draconian all these like crazy measures we're just so fed up with it as as constituent thanks guys support it have a good night. 152 00:14:15.450 --> 00:14:16.080 Thank you Sean. 153 00:14:17.310 --> 00:14:18.660 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm down to say go ahead. 154 00:14:23.640 --> 00:14:39.810 Darryl DuFay: i'm unmuted up, thank you very much, I appreciate this I have gone and looked at SCI fi 22 1058 at noon, there were only three individuals that responded to it, two against. 155 00:14:40.620 --> 00:14:56.250 Darryl DuFay: One for it no responses for any and no Community impact statements I haven't concerned about it because I took the chance to look at the number of zones that there are in the city of Los Angeles there's 46 of this. 156 00:14:56.910 --> 00:15:06.540 Darryl DuFay: They talk about restrictive most restrictive thing is our one and i'm my question is in terms of the motion because you've made it. 157 00:15:07.230 --> 00:15:18.720 Darryl DuFay: Does it cover because they talk about religious institutions are nonprofit charity groups that this is supposed to be aimed at and i'm just not i'm not. 158 00:15:19.440 --> 00:15:34.590 Darryl DuFay: Familiar or I don't understand enough of it, I guess, but if if somebody would talk about how this will cover what the motion is itself which i'm looking at it's not clear. 159 00:15:37.980 --> 00:15:38.370 Darryl DuFay: Stop. 160 00:15:38.730 --> 00:15:39.480 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you Darrell. 161 00:15:41.760 --> 00:15:43.620 Daffodil Tyminski: birthday girl go ahead. 162 00:15:45.210 --> 00:15:52.530 Birthday Girl: hey it's me Robin miras um so I strongly support this motion and I think that. 163 00:15:53.940 --> 00:16:01.920 Birthday Girl: One of the biggest problems we have in the city of Los Angeles, and specifically in Venice is a complete failure of urban planning. 164 00:16:02.310 --> 00:16:18.390 Birthday Girl: We need to you know to skirt all zoning and planning requirements to go without sequel is complete insanity this should be a world class city, this should be a world class Community that's not how it can be done. 165 00:16:18.930 --> 00:16:26.550 Birthday Girl: I think, for the interest of homeless people, as well as for existing house people, this is not how it should be done. 166 00:16:27.630 --> 00:16:28.140 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you. 167 00:16:29.250 --> 00:16:34.290 Daffodil Tyminski: Jim i'll note at 610 Jason sugars and rubber tubing or join the meeting. 168 00:16:35.340 --> 00:16:35.760 james murez: Okay. 169 00:16:37.260 --> 00:16:38.280 Daffodil Tyminski: um how and. 170 00:16:38.370 --> 00:16:41.610 james murez: i'll go back and do that afterwards yeah yeah just wants to know at the time. 171 00:16:42.180 --> 00:16:43.470 Daffodil Tyminski: I Helen found go ahead okay. 172 00:16:45.810 --> 00:16:54.780 Helen Fallon: So I also i'm glad that you're planning on following a CIS to oppose this, I think it's very hypocritical to throw in churches and synagogues we're not going to want to have. 173 00:16:56.340 --> 00:17:06.300 Helen Fallon: housing for people who are not in we're in wet facilities which we all know, that's where the money is being spent, and so this is really designed to. 174 00:17:07.140 --> 00:17:17.520 Helen Fallon: fund the hump continue to fund and allow the homeless, industrial complex to destroy our residential neighborhoods i'd also like to remind you, because you're filing so late. 175 00:17:18.240 --> 00:17:29.310 Helen Fallon: I hope you're will be contacting the city clerk to advise them that you're planning on filing a CIS, so that if someone is going to speak on our behalf at that meeting. 176 00:17:29.820 --> 00:17:38.640 Helen Fallon: They will know that there will be somebody there to speak on our behalf, otherwise no one's going to know about the CIS because it but it'll get posted to life, thank you. 177 00:17:39.690 --> 00:17:40.230 Thank you. 178 00:17:41.310 --> 00:17:42.450 Daffodil Tyminski: stand back or go ahead. 179 00:17:49.500 --> 00:17:58.710 Stan Becker: i'm not being heard I haven't been on zoom before, can you hear me, yes, we can Oh, thank you very much, I support them motion very, very much in fact. 180 00:18:00.120 --> 00:18:07.830 Stan Becker: When we look at the gatekeepers which are St joseph's a homeless Center, which is actually. 181 00:18:08.940 --> 00:18:14.430 Stan Becker: given us the bridge house and horizon apartments llc with Venice Community housing Corporation. 182 00:18:14.940 --> 00:18:20.400 Stan Becker: we've ended up with the bridge house we've ended up with open crack smoking we've ended up with criminal staff. 183 00:18:20.880 --> 00:18:28.590 Stan Becker: I mean we can even I would support the motion anyway because of the integrity of the residential aspects, keeping the residential neighborhood. 184 00:18:28.890 --> 00:18:38.580 Stan Becker: But these gatekeepers RON accountable by tactic hundreds of millions and billions have been lost it creates homelessness and expands a subculture. 185 00:18:39.120 --> 00:18:46.620 Stan Becker: And the previous speaker was dead on what it does is expand to homeless industrial complex our local Venice Community housing Corporation. 186 00:18:47.100 --> 00:19:01.620 Stan Becker: If you look at horizon apartments llc 20 units it's the perfect microcosmic research sample of permanent supportive housing and wraparound services as delivered by our gatekeepers as extremely. 187 00:19:02.670 --> 00:19:03.990 Stan Becker: dangerous for tenants. 188 00:19:03.990 --> 00:19:05.940 Daffodil Tyminski: And wrap it up Stan. 189 00:19:06.270 --> 00:19:07.980 Stan Becker: Thank you, I understand I appreciate. 190 00:19:09.690 --> 00:19:11.430 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm Lisa redmond go ahead. 191 00:19:14.160 --> 00:19:22.980 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: yeah good evening i'm i'm actually in favor of this motion and I would urge highly that you would pass a CIS in favorite. 192 00:19:23.310 --> 00:19:31.140 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: let's talk reasonably it's not the motion itself we're not suddenly wanting to build house, this is in shelters and neighborhoods right now. 193 00:19:31.500 --> 00:19:38.010 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: What we're asking is just a report back everybody freaked out when we wanted to report back just to see if we could put. 194 00:19:38.340 --> 00:19:46.500 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Safe camping at beach parking lots and you know what that report came back came back and said, you know what not such a good idea, this same report may come back and. 195 00:19:46.980 --> 00:19:59.130 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Have the same opportunity, people are worried about homeless in neighborhoods you know what they already are in your neighborhoods wouldn't it be wonderful if a church was able to use their parking lot for safe. 196 00:19:59.490 --> 00:20:14.340 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: camping or for safe parking so people are dumping their urine on the gutters there now actually be able to access a bathroom this is entirely segregationist politics, and I urge you not to vote against it. 197 00:20:16.650 --> 00:20:19.410 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you Lisa i'm David wheatley go ahead. 198 00:20:21.780 --> 00:20:27.090 David Wheatley: Thank you, David wheatley in Los Angeles, I heard about this meeting, through a friend who lives in Venice. 199 00:20:28.140 --> 00:20:36.360 David Wheatley: And I think this, I support this motion and I think it doesn't go far enough, I think it says do regard what does that mean there needs to be hearing. 200 00:20:37.410 --> 00:20:39.720 David Wheatley: environmental impact reports done. 201 00:20:41.340 --> 00:20:50.670 David Wheatley: A lot of churches were put in in the 60s 50s and 60s in neighborhoods so people could just walk down the block and go and because of. 202 00:20:51.900 --> 00:20:57.840 David Wheatley: Attendance has been down they've been relying on their preschools their preschools you know, two year olds one year olds. 203 00:20:58.260 --> 00:21:06.330 David Wheatley: walking along with their moms and dads up and down the sidewalks it creates a very dangerous environment for them. 204 00:21:06.960 --> 00:21:15.420 David Wheatley: And as far as the Community impact statement, I think it should be hitting them, really, really hard and have it in writing because if they decide they're not going to let people talk that way it's still. 205 00:21:16.080 --> 00:21:21.150 David Wheatley: On the record and in the system and I encourage you to go forward as tough as possible, thanks. 206 00:21:22.320 --> 00:21:23.100 Thanks so much. 207 00:21:24.930 --> 00:21:27.900 Daffodil Tyminski: Paul Pascal and hopefully I pronounced that correctly. 208 00:21:35.520 --> 00:21:37.770 Paul Abascal: The pronunciation was pretty good. 209 00:21:37.830 --> 00:21:38.910 we'll have to talk about it. 210 00:21:40.890 --> 00:21:55.170 Paul Abascal: i'm in favor of the motion and the my my major flaw with all of these agencies that say they're going to step up and oversee things is they're clearly not doing a good job at it at all. 211 00:21:55.530 --> 00:22:05.730 Paul Abascal: And this is only going to promote more crime more trash all of that, because they're not being managed with any degree of discipline. 212 00:22:06.420 --> 00:22:19.080 Paul Abascal: Coupled by law enforcement and it just it just sends a message out there that now, you can park around a church Now you can clutter up that parking lot and have complete disregard. 213 00:22:19.470 --> 00:22:34.080 Paul Abascal: For your trash and behavior and everything else that's impacting our Community, I mean it's insanity that this is this is trying to get pushed through so i'm in favor of the motion 10,000% Thank you thanks so much. 214 00:22:34.410 --> 00:22:38.490 Daffodil Tyminski: And our last public comment will be Andrew P Andrew go ahead. 215 00:22:41.790 --> 00:22:54.960 ANDREW P (They/Them): hi yeah, I would like to call in in support of the Council file, because I am a church freshener and my church three years had. 216 00:22:57.120 --> 00:23:12.720 ANDREW P (They/Them): We allowed the street several folks who were down on their luck on hard times and rv the park around, and we would let them help us the services and not be disrupted and it was a very. 217 00:23:14.670 --> 00:23:32.400 ANDREW P (They/Them): us to do, it is our mission and our goal to serve others and if you're unhappy that you know, there is a Christian church seeking to fulfill our mission in Christ, I mean I don't know what to tell you. 218 00:23:33.720 --> 00:23:58.770 ANDREW P (They/Them): It is what we are often called to do, and it is something we hope to do to help, not just the neighborhood but the world so that way, this is not exacerbated crisis levels where things are encroaching on the wetlands on people's homes directly and he is a giant mega encampments. 219 00:23:58.830 --> 00:23:59.970 Thanks so much. 220 00:24:01.620 --> 00:24:15.420 james murez: Have a good night I know you, you said that that was the last person, I think there are a few more hands up do we have a little bit of time, you know it's worth less than 20 minutes after can we let this go for another couple minutes if there's other people that want us to speak. 221 00:24:17.130 --> 00:24:18.960 james murez: With I don't know how many him more hands are are but. 222 00:24:19.560 --> 00:24:28.500 Daffodil Tyminski: There are more raised her hand after I close public comment, and now you saying that if someone named Jesse raised their hand, so if that's what you want to run a meeting that's fine. 223 00:24:28.890 --> 00:24:35.760 james murez: yeah no can we let's go ahead and let those last two people speaking, and you know, maybe they didn't get here right on time we started very close on time. 224 00:24:36.060 --> 00:24:46.260 james murez: And it's it was a special meeting so let's let's give people the opportunity we have a little bit of extra time and then we'll turn it over to the board to make a decision about what's going. 225 00:24:46.410 --> 00:24:49.470 Daffodil Tyminski: On out for the record, they were both here but go ahead, or can make your comments. 226 00:24:50.610 --> 00:24:59.400 Erica Moore: hi there i'm actually I was here, but I was having issues technical issues sorry about that, I just wanted to say that I think that this is an example of something that. 227 00:25:00.240 --> 00:25:07.020 Erica Moore: It will you have to look at the context and it, it is such a multi layered thing, and the last caller. 228 00:25:07.710 --> 00:25:17.700 Erica Moore: I mean that's the problem with with with our situation is, you have people you have churches that can open up their their parking lots if they want to, to help people, but unfortunately. 229 00:25:18.120 --> 00:25:26.670 Erica Moore: The way the situation is right now they're not allowed to do that, and I think that that is an issue, and I also understand that the fact that people don't want this in front of their house. 230 00:25:27.120 --> 00:25:33.300 Erica Moore: I mean i've had urine bottles in front of my home that i've had to deal with I don't like it so. 231 00:25:34.050 --> 00:25:40.110 Erica Moore: it's a it's very complex and what I wanted to say is that I really wish that you guys would speak on. 232 00:25:40.890 --> 00:25:45.570 Erica Moore: The topic first and then we could make comment, I think it would be so helpful. 233 00:25:45.990 --> 00:25:54.480 Erica Moore: As far as giving more information and hearing that points of views and then you guys vote after that I know that that's probably not the way you do it, but I just wanted to throw that out there. 234 00:25:54.810 --> 00:26:01.080 Erica Moore: That, I think that would have been maybe a positive thing for all of us to be able to have more information and have a more thoughtful conversation. 235 00:26:01.380 --> 00:26:01.920 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks so much. 236 00:26:04.950 --> 00:26:06.840 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so now we have a bunch more hands Jim. 237 00:26:08.130 --> 00:26:08.730 james murez: We have why. 238 00:26:08.910 --> 00:26:11.760 Daffodil Tyminski: Why don't we I said, now we have a bunch more hands. 239 00:26:12.060 --> 00:26:13.200 Daffodil Tyminski: Oh i'm. 240 00:26:13.560 --> 00:26:21.660 Alley Bean: Definitely, people are having a problems like I was with the wind like going in and I, my Internet that may be why. 241 00:26:22.620 --> 00:26:33.120 james murez: So why don't you know because we're extending this why don't we just say we're going to cut this off at 625 that's four minutes from now, but before more speakers and then that'll, be it how's that okay. 242 00:26:33.180 --> 00:26:34.020 Daffodil Tyminski: Jesse go ahead. 243 00:26:42.840 --> 00:26:43.320 Daffodil Tyminski: Kathy. 244 00:26:44.040 --> 00:26:45.390 james murez: Maybe move on to the next one. 245 00:26:46.050 --> 00:26:47.460 Daffodil Tyminski: And the Blakey. 246 00:26:50.850 --> 00:26:53.370 M.B. Blakey: Go ahead hi can you hear me. 247 00:26:53.790 --> 00:27:00.390 M.B. Blakey: Yes, hi I want to echo Andy piece comment in support of the Council file. 248 00:27:01.440 --> 00:27:10.650 M.B. Blakey: I feel like this is a free exercise of religion issue many of our houses of worship on the West side have this capacity. 249 00:27:11.910 --> 00:27:17.670 M.B. Blakey: To to help folks that have no other options, and they should be able to. 250 00:27:19.620 --> 00:27:37.620 M.B. Blakey: If folks have difficulty with the side of poverty on the streets in front of their homes, this, this is an option, we have to pick some option at some point we cannot say no to everything Thank you thanks. 251 00:27:39.630 --> 00:27:40.680 Daffodil Tyminski: Brett go ahead. 252 00:27:48.150 --> 00:27:50.670 Brett (she/her): hello, can you hear me yes. 253 00:27:51.840 --> 00:27:58.290 Brett (she/her): hey i'm i'm a stakeholder and I would love, if you wrote a Community impact statement in favor of this motion. 254 00:27:58.710 --> 00:28:14.310 Brett (she/her): We need to be realistic here there's over 40,000 on house people living in La churches and nonprofits should absolutely do what they are intended to do, and serve our Community Members I quite frankly don't understand how this is an issue. 255 00:28:16.350 --> 00:28:26.550 Brett (she/her): If this is a good thing, I think we should stop stonewalling every solution that is presented to us because we're afraid to see. 256 00:28:28.050 --> 00:28:38.550 Brett (she/her): Someone who is poor living next to us, please support this motion stop stonewalling every single idea, thank you, thank you. 257 00:28:39.960 --> 00:28:41.100 Daffodil Tyminski: Carl to being go ahead. 258 00:28:44.700 --> 00:28:46.320 cari devine bjelajac: it's it's carrie divine. 259 00:28:46.350 --> 00:28:48.810 Daffodil Tyminski: Magellan oh sorry I didn't my poor. 260 00:28:49.020 --> 00:28:57.210 cari devine bjelajac: Vision no car no worries I just wanted to say that as you've written this Community impact statement. 261 00:28:57.630 --> 00:29:11.280 cari devine bjelajac: it's it's incomplete it's a position statement it doesn't address the serious potential impacts of this motion several other people that have called in have tried to point this out, but this is not a complete motion it's not drafted correctly. 262 00:29:12.600 --> 00:29:13.170 Thank you. 263 00:29:14.280 --> 00:29:15.540 Daffodil Tyminski: Brian silveira go ahead. 264 00:29:18.180 --> 00:29:31.170 Brian Silveira: Yes, hi Thank you very much, so my understanding of the genesis of this motion is the city council was trying to find a way to use things like they can churches and synagogues. 265 00:29:31.620 --> 00:29:44.820 Brian Silveira: In zones, other than our three and less restrictive like already 1.5 which Dennis has a lot of and they just wanted to do temporary shelters, so I don't know exactly how this is all going to flesh out. 266 00:29:46.170 --> 00:29:52.440 Brian Silveira: But I think that if that's all that they're trying to do this is something I can get behind, especially for. 267 00:29:53.070 --> 00:30:00.960 Brian Silveira: People who are concerned about the taxpayer burden of creating new homeless shelters are allocating funds towards new shelters. 268 00:30:01.410 --> 00:30:11.880 Brian Silveira: That it should make sense that we try to utilize things like fake in churches and synagogues, so I am absolutely opposed to allowing new shelters in residential neighborhoods. 269 00:30:12.210 --> 00:30:26.010 Brian Silveira: I think that a lot of conditions should be imposed, that that don't show up in this, for example, no shelters in our one neighborhoods emergency shelters should only be allowed and existing buildings with CMOs for religious institution. 270 00:30:26.430 --> 00:30:26.850 Daffodil Tyminski: There she. 271 00:30:27.420 --> 00:30:29.010 Brian Silveira: offered a single family homes. 272 00:30:29.820 --> 00:30:31.320 Brian Silveira: i'm sorry, did you need me to finish up. 273 00:30:31.410 --> 00:30:32.490 Daffodil Tyminski: you're done yes. 274 00:30:32.550 --> 00:30:33.060 Okay. 275 00:30:35.730 --> 00:30:40.530 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, we have two more so we're very old holly Tilson and then we are cutting off public comment. 276 00:30:41.040 --> 00:30:42.240 james murez: yep because we're out of time. 277 00:30:42.840 --> 00:30:43.740 Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead Ariel. 278 00:30:44.760 --> 00:30:59.250 Arielle L.: hello, my name is Arielle i'm a stakeholder as well, and I would like to echo some of the previous comments actually in support of the city council file, we have these wonderful resources in our Community churches, synagogues. 279 00:31:00.450 --> 00:31:19.320 Arielle L.: That would like to assist some of our most vulnerable residents and the fact is an house people live in our Community already, and if we can tap into some resources that can help alleviate the problem, we should certainly investigate that as an option, thank you, thanks. 280 00:31:20.790 --> 00:31:22.350 Daffodil Tyminski: holly Tilson go ahead. 281 00:31:25.860 --> 00:31:34.470 Holly Tilson: I would just caution supporting this I would oppose the City Council file the word temporary is in there. 282 00:31:34.890 --> 00:31:36.570 Holly Tilson: And I have seen. 283 00:31:37.110 --> 00:31:39.390 Holly Tilson: Probably every temporary. 284 00:31:42.360 --> 00:31:44.550 Holly Tilson: proposition that the city. 285 00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:59.700 Holly Tilson: proposes or any pilot program turns into a permanent program So if you want to have permanent shelters all over Venice, then I guess you need to support the file. 286 00:32:02.430 --> 00:32:03.480 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you very much. 287 00:32:04.590 --> 00:32:07.380 james murez: Okay, on that note i'm going to go ahead and close public comment. 288 00:32:08.370 --> 00:32:09.600 Ivan Spiegel: All right, Jim. 289 00:32:10.380 --> 00:32:13.140 Ivan Spiegel: yeah I had my hands up actually but. 290 00:32:13.710 --> 00:32:16.410 james murez: You are you are you making a public comment statement or a. 291 00:32:16.410 --> 00:32:21.510 Ivan Spiegel: problem, no, no parliamentarian problem with motion, I want to clean up for you. 292 00:32:22.110 --> 00:32:23.370 james murez: Okay, go ahead alright. 293 00:32:23.490 --> 00:32:29.340 Ivan Spiegel: So i'm assuming that the goal here is to issue a Community impact statement at the end. 294 00:32:30.030 --> 00:32:40.950 Ivan Spiegel: You need to put that into the motion, so it should start with the Venice Member Council board shall submit a Community impact statement. 295 00:32:43.260 --> 00:32:48.600 Ivan Spiegel: And then everything Okay, I have to respond, but you have to state that that's what your goal is here. 296 00:32:55.020 --> 00:32:55.500 james murez: Okay. 297 00:32:56.040 --> 00:32:57.510 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, then that's fine with me. 298 00:32:57.960 --> 00:32:58.350 Okay. 299 00:33:00.540 --> 00:33:01.770 Andrea Boccaletti: In opposition to. 300 00:33:02.310 --> 00:33:04.020 Ivan Spiegel: What whatever it is you guys decide. 301 00:33:04.950 --> 00:33:06.900 Ivan Spiegel: yeah i'm not taking sides i'm just. 302 00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:10.860 james murez: know that that that was a very minor change it's not an alternate motion it's basically. 303 00:33:10.860 --> 00:33:12.600 james murez: Just one which, thank you. 304 00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:15.030 james murez: Okay, do you want to put your hand down. 305 00:33:16.770 --> 00:33:21.780 james murez: Now let's let's go to the the committee folks. 306 00:33:23.790 --> 00:33:33.750 james murez: That have their hands up alley your hand was up first Clark here's a second we'll continue other people have things to say, and actually while we're doing this, let me see if I can. 307 00:33:34.920 --> 00:33:43.980 james murez: I think I have a copy of it here yeah so we can, if anybody wants to see it, I can share my screen like this, where it shows it Thank you. 308 00:33:45.180 --> 00:33:45.810 james murez: ellie go ahead. 309 00:33:46.110 --> 00:33:58.320 Alley Bean: So i'm just before I make a comment my question would be, are we going to write the Community impact statement and and show that to the stakeholders in the board before we submit it. 310 00:33:58.770 --> 00:34:12.420 james murez: So the way that it Community impact statement is filed the city has a special system that I believe there's four or five of us on the board that all have access to it in the past i've been doing them. 311 00:34:13.140 --> 00:34:25.350 james murez: Only as it's falling on my lap but but we basically go in and we answer some questions about what's the Council file number, and then, are you in supportive it, or are you opposed to it and. 312 00:34:25.680 --> 00:34:34.410 james murez: And and are you in supportive it with modifications are you opposed to it with modifications and then you can attach to that any kind of. 313 00:34:35.280 --> 00:34:42.780 james murez: Statement up to I don't remember if it was 250 or 300 words basically we would just take the emotion that we have written. 314 00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:55.650 james murez: On the previous screen share, and we would paste that into the comment section, but when they look at it in Council, basically, what they're looking at is is it a yay or nay and and who is it's making it. 315 00:34:56.280 --> 00:34:56.790 james murez: We don't get. 316 00:34:57.150 --> 00:35:00.810 james murez: Freedom to to go into a long amount of. 317 00:35:01.860 --> 00:35:02.730 james murez: detail about it. 318 00:35:03.840 --> 00:35:18.960 Alley Bean: Oh, I mean I i'm just saying that I think there's so much that we can supply as the Community the impact that this motion has already had on our Community, and I think that the caller's the confusion and even you know even. 319 00:35:20.100 --> 00:35:28.890 Alley Bean: You know people that know a lot about this issue that have spoken, I think there's a misunderstanding about the the church parking lot question. 320 00:35:29.340 --> 00:35:37.050 Alley Bean: I mean we've always used churches as temporary shelters in the past winter shelters and I think it's a great idea, but what this motion. 321 00:35:37.560 --> 00:35:47.100 Alley Bean: puts forward, which is very different is having certain like bridge homie bridge bridge home become permanent that's a very important. 322 00:35:47.520 --> 00:35:59.100 Alley Bean: thing to have a discussion about, and this is said that the Community would have no involvement in the answer to that I don't I don't know if a lot of the caller's understand the details of this motion. 323 00:35:59.610 --> 00:36:04.800 james murez: me how does somebody have a phone ringing in the background, something going ding it's very annoying. 324 00:36:06.120 --> 00:36:06.840 Alley Bean: I don't know. 325 00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:12.930 james murez: yeah it's not you Elliot somebody else has got something making a banging noise and I can't see everyone so. 326 00:36:13.770 --> 00:36:14.280 Alley Bean: I don't know. 327 00:36:14.610 --> 00:36:15.720 james murez: i'm sorry go ahead ellie. 328 00:36:16.170 --> 00:36:31.590 Alley Bean: And anyway, so I think the I wish we had a CIS right now to go over as a board, because I think there are so many things you know many people on this call have so many specific details that they care about. 329 00:36:32.670 --> 00:36:39.210 Alley Bean: Not having in this city motion and it just hasn't been fleshed out, yet I think that's some of the. 330 00:36:39.810 --> 00:36:45.540 Alley Bean: You know the misunderstanding that we're having in the in the conversation I think a lot of people, myself included. 331 00:36:46.350 --> 00:36:58.830 Alley Bean: i'd be very for having temporary shelters in church parking lots I think it's a and there can be a lot of support that way to the homeless Community because it's a very caring group of people, I mean there's. 332 00:36:59.880 --> 00:37:10.290 Alley Bean: And it's just the question that we want the Community to be involved in the decision making some places may like as the as someone brought up may be inappropriate if it's where a preschool is. 333 00:37:11.100 --> 00:37:21.810 Alley Bean: In another neighborhood It would be wonderful and everybody would be completely for it and supportive but it, but the problem with bonds motion is that it made it, that is my thing didn't. 334 00:37:23.070 --> 00:37:24.960 Alley Bean: i'm sorry I just got attacked I don't know if that was me. 335 00:37:25.890 --> 00:37:34.350 Alley Bean: But I think the problem with this motion that which which we have to make clear to the city is there's so many little hidden things like a Trojan horse in here. 336 00:37:34.950 --> 00:37:40.770 Alley Bean: That make shelters permanent that don't involve Community impact at all we get no say that we can't. 337 00:37:41.160 --> 00:37:52.140 Alley Bean: You know flush things out together, where it's a home that the shelter would be wonderful and where it would would impact the neighborhood in a negative way so that's The problem with this motion and I just. 338 00:37:52.860 --> 00:38:03.660 Alley Bean: Will that I hope that we'll all be clear in our CIS, you know that they understand why we're opposing this particular motion because I think a lot of people on you know, on our Council. 339 00:38:04.080 --> 00:38:10.950 Alley Bean: And in our stakeholders would indeed welcome winter shelters like we used to have in church parking lots it's just. 340 00:38:11.400 --> 00:38:22.080 Alley Bean: We can't just say that they're all fine because everything's different and that's what this motion is doing and it's making things permanent, which is, I don't know why they have to put all this in one motion yeah. 341 00:38:22.110 --> 00:38:22.980 james murez: Thank you ellie let me. 342 00:38:24.510 --> 00:38:30.630 james murez: Let me get some of the other comments and we come back and if we have a little bit more time, by the way, we have to end this meeting. 343 00:38:31.410 --> 00:38:36.900 james murez: Because we already have a second meeting they have people can okay Clark go ahead and put your hand down, please. 344 00:38:37.860 --> 00:38:45.090 clark brown: Thank you, I, I agree with Lisa redmond I opposes motion because I support bonds motion before the city council. 345 00:38:45.600 --> 00:38:50.640 clark brown: widens motion does not affect any immediate change to the city's zoning ordinances. 346 00:38:51.000 --> 00:39:01.920 clark brown: All it does is order the planning department other city departments and the city attorney to report back to this city council in 45 days about. 347 00:39:02.220 --> 00:39:19.560 clark brown: Allowing shelters for the homeless in zones where you're not presently allowed, but only during the declared sheltered crisis, the streamlining administrative approval for such shelters see expanding we're such shelters can operate as a matter of right. 348 00:39:21.060 --> 00:39:32.730 clark brown: D, it does nothing except establish a duty to report back and forth within 45 days more knowledge never heard anyone, we now have a silver crisis that's why tensor. 349 00:39:33.210 --> 00:39:45.570 clark brown: pitched in front of homes and flower and Venice and electric tense covers centennial park rv is line main between sunset and rose it's all totally unacceptable. 350 00:39:46.290 --> 00:39:54.360 clark brown: We have to find ways to get people off the streets shelters, are the quickest ways to do it, we owe it to our neighbors to address this problem. 351 00:39:54.720 --> 00:40:09.390 clark brown: To that end, we should study innovative ways to do that, the only thing that's ordinance does is establish a 45 days study period it changes nothing else, so I think we should support the ordinance and both know on the motion, thank you. 352 00:40:10.650 --> 00:40:12.930 james murez: cj go ahead, please put your hand down, please. 353 00:40:14.910 --> 00:40:26.760 CJ Cole: First of all, it's fairly evident that many of you have not read the motion, first of all, the first three paragraphs have nothing to do with emotion. 354 00:40:27.630 --> 00:40:48.960 CJ Cole: The last three paragraphs are the motion, they do not mention religious organizations, churches, they do not mention anything other than what would be considered, like our bridge housing, so I think this has been disguised by the maker of it which we all know. 355 00:40:50.040 --> 00:40:50.880 CJ Cole: To kind of. 356 00:40:51.900 --> 00:40:56.070 CJ Cole: describe it it's been disguised but the motion does not mention. 357 00:40:56.460 --> 00:41:18.840 CJ Cole: anything at all other than allowing you know whether it is a study or not it is their intention with this to figure out a way to allow what's in paragraph 345 and six to add, so if someone will read that and ignore the first three paragraphs you'll see what we're voting on, thank you. 358 00:41:20.160 --> 00:41:22.440 james murez: Thank you cj Andre go ahead. 359 00:41:23.700 --> 00:41:37.770 Andrea Boccaletti: yeah i'm very wary to support anything that Mike bond and draws up and supports and I agree with cj I mean read it's he wants to report back and 45 days to make some of these temporary shelters. 360 00:41:39.240 --> 00:41:44.580 Andrea Boccaletti: permanent and that's in the last paragraph, there are further move the city council's truck. 361 00:41:46.410 --> 00:41:47.220 Andrea Boccaletti: I don't know I just. 362 00:41:49.830 --> 00:41:58.440 Andrea Boccaletti: We see what's going on already now I wish there were some better solutions, I wish the city would really tackle this issue. 363 00:41:59.850 --> 00:42:01.320 Andrea Boccaletti: and not with these. 364 00:42:03.090 --> 00:42:12.300 Andrea Boccaletti: Expensive shelters that they have in the pipeline to be built, I mean really addresses and where does it stop I mean where where when do we stop taking everybody. 365 00:42:12.750 --> 00:42:24.300 Andrea Boccaletti: From everywhere from across the country to come here and beyond this like how much how much do we put up with a man, I understand, we have to address it it's terrible but there needs to be a mental health. 366 00:42:24.810 --> 00:42:42.060 Andrea Boccaletti: aspect to this whole thing as well, I mean we're just been failed over and over, and this is another bad nother bad motion another bad policy that they want us to approve, so I will not support the this motion from the city. 367 00:42:42.750 --> 00:42:47.970 james murez: Thank you vicki cj and address if you guys can put your hands down that would be helpful. 368 00:42:48.810 --> 00:42:50.670 Vicki Halliday: um yeah I mean. 369 00:42:51.750 --> 00:43:02.340 Vicki Halliday: My instinct is to oppose this motion in its current form, I think that you know 45 days or whatever it needs a lot of work, and they can do it downtown. 370 00:43:02.970 --> 00:43:16.680 Vicki Halliday: um you know bridge housing is sitting here at half capacity um anybody who's a neighbor of St joseph's on Hampton has lived through a nightmare because of their. 371 00:43:17.250 --> 00:43:26.430 Vicki Halliday: Non compliance in the agreements that they made with neighbors um, this is not just about churches trying to do good and a little temporary. 372 00:43:27.300 --> 00:43:44.220 Vicki Halliday: safe parking, this is about churches with land, who want to build whatever um and get away with it and I just think that the motion can get worked on downtown and Mr bond and can clean it up themselves before it gets passed, thank you. 373 00:43:45.210 --> 00:43:48.000 james murez: Thank you vicki i'm def adele go ahead, please. 374 00:43:49.140 --> 00:44:00.570 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah thanks um I agree with everyone else about not supporting this for some of the same reasons, I think we've seen that both the city and the services providers have just not been honest brokers, with the Community. 375 00:44:01.020 --> 00:44:08.730 Daffodil Tyminski: In terms of promises they've made and and their execution, so I think we would need a lot more detail to support something like this. 376 00:44:09.750 --> 00:44:16.380 Daffodil Tyminski: But I also just have a more global problem, which is this is, I think the problem we have is the city does everything piecemeal. 377 00:44:16.770 --> 00:44:26.220 Daffodil Tyminski: right there really is no comprehensive plan that anyone is willing to spend time and work on they're just you know slowly chipping away at different parts of our Community. 378 00:44:27.750 --> 00:44:36.450 Daffodil Tyminski: And we would be in Venice disproportionately impacted with this, because we have very little r1 zoning in fact i'm not sure if and west of Lincoln we have any r1 zoning. 379 00:44:37.860 --> 00:44:47.790 Daffodil Tyminski: be able to probably have a little bit, but, but so you know this will even further, to the extent that we've been talking about Venice becoming a containment zone for CD 11 This will further. 380 00:44:48.900 --> 00:45:00.000 Daffodil Tyminski: situate these projects in Venice, as opposed to the palisades westchester you know what we've been talking about all along, so I would urge people to at least consider the long term impact this could have. 381 00:45:02.040 --> 00:45:03.300 james murez: Okay um. 382 00:45:05.700 --> 00:45:07.650 james murez: i'm just trying to. 383 00:45:09.450 --> 00:45:18.480 james murez: I got a text message from somebody a Robert typical made it in Okay, and so did NICO NICO and Robert are both here do we have any more hands on this subject. 384 00:45:20.850 --> 00:45:23.400 james murez: anybody else on the board that wanted to speak out on this. 385 00:45:28.740 --> 00:45:29.370 james murez: um. 386 00:45:29.460 --> 00:45:33.090 Alley Bean: I didn't raise my hand yet, but I would like to Sally yeah. 387 00:45:33.510 --> 00:45:35.970 james murez: yeah Jason sugars go ahead, please. 388 00:45:38.850 --> 00:45:42.210 james murez: You gotta unmute Jason glad to see you here will will log you in. 389 00:45:43.470 --> 00:45:51.540 Jason Sugars: i'm sorry in reading and rereading this thing from the city, I still don't understand if we were voting against a report or voting against his actions. 390 00:45:54.270 --> 00:46:01.170 james murez: The let's go back let's go back to what the motion says to answer Jason because I think he got here late. 391 00:46:02.640 --> 00:46:13.830 james murez: So it says we're we're in opposition of the Council file, which means that they would basically need to go back and and and change it if we wanted to support the Council file. 392 00:46:14.190 --> 00:46:21.750 james murez: we're not taking a position on individual items within the Council file the The point is, is that we're saying that that. 393 00:46:22.530 --> 00:46:31.230 james murez: it's not regarding certain conditions and that's basically what we're saying that there's things that we care about in our Community that that have to do with. 394 00:46:31.980 --> 00:46:48.330 james murez: You know location zoning restrictions consideration of impacts, to the Community and and that's basically what we're we're calling out but in In essence, the motion says that we're opposing the Council file. 395 00:46:50.160 --> 00:46:54.090 james murez: see my you haven't had a chance to speak, yet Jason did that answer you. 396 00:46:56.160 --> 00:47:03.000 Jason Sugars: yeah I mean i'm all for us getting more specificity before we bought for things like what i'm getting up there. 397 00:47:06.180 --> 00:47:12.810 james murez: Okay, thank you um see my you haven't had a chance to speak it did you want to go ahead, you have to unmute yourself. 398 00:47:14.280 --> 00:47:20.100 Sima Kostovetsky: Yes, please um so I had a question, in addition to the. 399 00:47:24.330 --> 00:47:25.950 Sima Kostovetsky: For us as. 400 00:47:27.570 --> 00:47:32.040 james murez: Your your better close close shut your video off and then speak. 401 00:47:37.710 --> 00:47:39.270 james murez: Can you hear me yeah. 402 00:47:39.900 --> 00:47:48.300 Sima Kostovetsky: Can we see like i'm not commercial um So my question is, do we have an opportunity as a neighborhood Council to speak. 403 00:47:49.590 --> 00:47:54.840 Sima Kostovetsky: Whatever our position turns out to be during thursday's hearing the committee meeting. 404 00:47:55.620 --> 00:48:06.360 james murez: So you know, one of the public comments was, and I was going to respond to that that we make a call to the city clerk and and try and. 405 00:48:06.960 --> 00:48:14.430 james murez: and get time to speak, I have tried to do that before and and they don't seem to have a way of. 406 00:48:14.820 --> 00:48:23.220 james murez: identifying a neighborhood Council, I mean it used to be, when you go downtown and you'd stand in the in the the Council chambers. 407 00:48:23.490 --> 00:48:30.450 james murez: You could tell the officer there that hey i'm here, as the speaker of the neighborhood Council and you give them your credentials and they would let you speak. 408 00:48:30.930 --> 00:48:39.390 james murez: The way that it's working online with zoom meetings there's no way to do that, that I have found and i've tried three times on three different meetings already and I have not been able to do it. 409 00:48:40.530 --> 00:48:56.490 james murez: And, and as far as the timing so everybody understands yeah there is going to be a meeting on Thursday, where this thing is going to be heard and and it does say that that it's supposed to be a 45 days, but this is being fast tracked that this thing came up last week. 410 00:48:56.520 --> 00:49:00.540 Sima Kostovetsky: That was actually can be my point awesome Jim given the timings. 411 00:49:00.630 --> 00:49:01.260 james murez: There, thank you. 412 00:49:01.440 --> 00:49:08.670 james murez: For trying to say that the timing issue of this is that it's being fast track that the report needs to be. 413 00:49:09.030 --> 00:49:17.580 james murez: sent through a second committee after it goes through the first committee is the way that the Council file currently reads and once it does that, then it comes back to. 414 00:49:18.120 --> 00:49:28.110 james murez: The full city council, and so we don't know because several other items have sometimes items sit on the City Council docket for months and months on end. 415 00:49:28.680 --> 00:49:38.340 james murez: And lately, some of them have been going through very, very quickly, and so the consensus at the Rack meeting, which is the West la. 416 00:49:39.150 --> 00:49:44.250 james murez: All of the neighborhood Councils, the 14 neighborhood Councils of West la was let's get a statement in. 417 00:49:44.610 --> 00:50:00.840 james murez: If we want to make a statement early on in the process, and then, if we want to change it later on, we can, if the thing comes back out modified, we can always make a new statement on a later rubbish that later revision of it, but at this point the way that it's worded. 418 00:50:02.070 --> 00:50:13.170 james murez: It has a tremendous potential for impact to everyone throughout the entire city, and that was the concern, because the timing, we just don't know it says 45 days, but it could be next week. 419 00:50:13.560 --> 00:50:21.030 james murez: And they could put it on the calendar, a week and a half from now and that's why we're having a special 24 hour meeting, not because of the Thursday meeting. 420 00:50:21.510 --> 00:50:28.590 james murez: That they're having for city council, but rather because it's being fast tracked and it could come back out. 421 00:50:29.010 --> 00:50:41.190 james murez: much sooner than we will be having our March meeting and we just don't know there's no way of knowing if this, so I hope that answers your question about both timing and being able to speak in public comment. 422 00:50:44.970 --> 00:50:53.580 Sima Kostovetsky: yeah I just I genuinely think that we need to figure out a way to be a presence and i'm happy to help so. 423 00:50:56.250 --> 00:50:59.820 james murez: Okay, well, thank you so much, Robert you have your hand up. 424 00:51:03.690 --> 00:51:04.740 james murez: You have to unmute Robert. 425 00:51:04.740 --> 00:51:06.270 robertthibodeau: Clark data standard for me. 426 00:51:06.300 --> 00:51:07.050 Andrea Boccaletti: Clark, you might need. 427 00:51:08.250 --> 00:51:09.210 james murez: clark's already spoken. 428 00:51:09.630 --> 00:51:10.140 robertthibodeau: spoken. 429 00:51:10.530 --> 00:51:11.310 clark brown: Oh, he stands up. 430 00:51:11.430 --> 00:51:12.570 clark brown: Having Okay, are you. 431 00:51:12.930 --> 00:51:14.070 robertthibodeau: Alice do you want to go. 432 00:51:14.640 --> 00:51:16.710 james murez: she's already spoken to Robert let me. 433 00:51:16.860 --> 00:51:17.850 james murez: Let me like the meeting. 434 00:51:18.660 --> 00:51:19.650 robertthibodeau: sorry about that Jim. 435 00:51:21.150 --> 00:51:21.810 robertthibodeau: So. 436 00:51:22.890 --> 00:51:33.660 robertthibodeau: I think people in our one in our two zone should have some sort of reasonable expectation about what's going on with the properties, I mean that to. 437 00:51:34.290 --> 00:51:44.610 robertthibodeau: Either rent or own building in those zones, you should have a reasonable expectation of what's going to be happening on your neighboring properties and I think that. 438 00:51:45.840 --> 00:51:57.780 robertthibodeau: That idea of either you know, using the parking lots for homeless housing is something that no one's knowing who buys a single family home or duplex or. 439 00:51:58.230 --> 00:52:06.420 robertthibodeau: or even frankly small apartment building on on our our one or two or 1.5 type blot is expecting to have. 440 00:52:06.870 --> 00:52:15.690 robertthibodeau: and has a reasonable expectation that those sorts of activities would be happening on a neighboring property I think that's a radical departure from the current. 441 00:52:16.290 --> 00:52:31.050 robertthibodeau: land use and the way the land use has been in the city for 100 hundred years now, I think that you know the motion they push through before with the heavier zoning and kind of opening and expediting things in. 442 00:52:32.310 --> 00:52:51.990 robertthibodeau: Their commercial zone, so I think you can make an argument for that, but pushing what we've seen with bridge housing and others is as is as heavy impact type services into into these areas I don't think that's a good policy thing and then further echoing Andreas. 443 00:52:53.700 --> 00:53:07.560 robertthibodeau: Comments before is, if you look at the sort of cast of characters who is pushing this forwards, they have you know perform poorly and lied to us in the past and, as they say, you know fool me once. 444 00:53:08.610 --> 00:53:11.940 robertthibodeau: Shame on you fool me twice shame on me so. 445 00:53:13.050 --> 00:53:18.210 robertthibodeau: You know something to be considered there, to whose names on the bottom of the page so that's my comment. 446 00:53:19.350 --> 00:53:27.390 james murez: Thank you, Robert put your hand down, please okay let's go back now to the people that have already spoken once Clark, if you had a quick something you wanted to say. 447 00:53:27.750 --> 00:53:27.990 Yes. 448 00:53:29.520 --> 00:53:39.810 clark brown: I think some of the Members comments go to the point that the city is approached the homelessness is not sufficiently well thought out or sufficiently comprehensive That may be true. 449 00:53:40.140 --> 00:53:49.380 clark brown: But the perfect is the enemy of the good and here we've got a 45 day period to come up with some proposals and some of those proposals may be useful, and I think we ought to see what they are. 450 00:53:51.240 --> 00:53:52.890 james murez: Thank you Clark ellie go ahead, please. 451 00:53:53.310 --> 00:53:59.250 Alley Bean: um I think a lot of people are getting confused by this conversation, so I think that. 452 00:54:00.510 --> 00:54:09.810 Alley Bean: I just want to make sure that I understand that by voting to oppose the city's motion which is voting yes to send our motion correct. 453 00:54:10.260 --> 00:54:10.650 Greg. 454 00:54:11.910 --> 00:54:19.740 Alley Bean: Can we also say that that it that we really want our motion to be a little bit better constructed and that. 455 00:54:20.370 --> 00:54:34.050 Alley Bean: it's made clear in the CIS that we as a Community do not oppose at all the concept of using church parking lots, for example, given that there is, you know that it would depend upon the details and that. 456 00:54:34.050 --> 00:54:35.670 Alley Bean: involves Community input. 457 00:54:36.060 --> 00:54:37.380 james murez: yeah so let me answer you. 458 00:54:37.680 --> 00:54:37.980 Alley Bean: have been. 459 00:54:38.250 --> 00:54:49.020 james murez: filing a Community impact statement like I said earlier, and i'll repeat myself again now, there are about five options that we can select from one of the options is. 460 00:54:49.830 --> 00:55:10.650 james murez: We oppose the motion with modifications, or we approve the motion with modifications, and we would just have to then give the the Council files some idea of what parts of it, we want to oppose or what parts, we want to. 461 00:55:12.060 --> 00:55:12.750 james murez: modify. 462 00:55:13.860 --> 00:55:15.210 Alley Bean: Are we going to do that. 463 00:55:16.470 --> 00:55:16.890 Alley Bean: So if I. 464 00:55:16.950 --> 00:55:19.230 james murez: If because the good question good question allie. 465 00:55:19.740 --> 00:55:33.660 james murez: it's a really big subject that we can always take up at a second meeting we have about 15 minutes left 10 minutes left for this meeting before we have to start another previously scheduled meeting so unless we can get it done in 10 minutes we're not going to get anything done at all. 466 00:55:35.940 --> 00:55:38.070 james murez: Jim rob you have your hand up go ahead, please. 467 00:55:38.520 --> 00:55:45.090 Jim Robb: I think I had the same question his alley so i'm I would vote yes to oppose Michael bone and. 468 00:55:46.200 --> 00:55:51.930 Jim Robb: Why, we should correct this i'm voting to oppose what this motion says. 469 00:55:53.130 --> 00:55:56.550 james murez: you're you're voting to support Mike pontins motion. 470 00:55:58.950 --> 00:56:04.110 james murez: And this, this motion is saying we are opposing what he's proposed. 471 00:56:04.290 --> 00:56:05.490 Jim Robb: gotcha okay. 472 00:56:05.670 --> 00:56:10.680 james murez: God, you have to vote yes, if you want to oppose what Mike Mike bond is motion says. 473 00:56:10.710 --> 00:56:12.180 Jim Robb: I understand now, thank you. 474 00:56:14.010 --> 00:56:14.940 Alley Bean: Yes, Jim. 475 00:56:15.690 --> 00:56:18.030 james murez: Le hold on, let me, let me conduct the meeting. 476 00:56:18.030 --> 00:56:21.720 james murez: Okay Andre go ahead, please i'll if you have sending this one so quick. 477 00:56:22.470 --> 00:56:32.100 Andrea Boccaletti: I would just like to respond to what Clark said, I mean Clark what what he's saying in the last paragraph is that some of these things be made permanent. 478 00:56:32.850 --> 00:56:46.950 Andrea Boccaletti: And that's where it's wrong, and I mean you know just go on and on, what about a jobs program for these people to in order to be able to have the housing it's just there's so many things wrong with this and we need to oppose it. 479 00:56:47.430 --> 00:56:56.340 james murez: yeah it's down here at the bottom in case, nobody has seen it i'm highlighting and says new emergency and down here, it says made permanent. 480 00:56:57.600 --> 00:57:15.540 james murez: Okay it's very, very clear so we're talking about new construction in residential neighborhoods of shelters that are going to be made permanent and the process is not going to have to go through the normal zoning process that's what the previous portions of this say cj go ahead. 481 00:57:20.910 --> 00:57:24.390 james murez: cj your hand is up, if you want to speak you gotta unmute yourself. 482 00:57:25.590 --> 00:57:29.640 CJ Cole: Right I just like to call for a vote we're just hearing the same thing over and. 483 00:57:29.640 --> 00:57:30.870 CJ Cole: Over time, the same deal. 484 00:57:30.990 --> 00:57:35.610 james murez: Okay, so I agree um let's go ahead and take a vote on this now. 485 00:57:36.180 --> 00:57:40.380 Alley Bean: And I just asked does that include that we may have a CIS with this gym tomorrow. 486 00:57:40.830 --> 00:57:53.040 james murez: There will be a CIS file based if if we approve what the emotion is here, there will be a CIS if there's not we don't have time to do another one today and it won't happen until we have our board meeting in March. 487 00:57:55.080 --> 00:57:57.450 james murez: Okay um daffodil, how do you vote. 488 00:58:00.750 --> 00:58:01.440 james murez: daffodil. 489 00:58:02.730 --> 00:58:03.210 james murez: unmute. 490 00:58:03.570 --> 00:58:04.710 Daffodil Tyminski: sorry about that yes. 491 00:58:06.180 --> 00:58:07.050 james murez: um. 492 00:58:08.220 --> 00:58:10.830 james murez: who's next on the list Andre go ahead, please. 493 00:58:11.130 --> 00:58:11.640 Yes. 494 00:58:12.840 --> 00:58:13.380 Andrea Boccaletti: vicki. 495 00:58:13.680 --> 00:58:14.130 Yes. 496 00:58:15.270 --> 00:58:15.780 james murez: Bruno. 497 00:58:17.160 --> 00:58:17.340 james murez: Oh. 498 00:58:17.400 --> 00:58:18.150 Bruno Hernandez: yeah yes. 499 00:58:18.930 --> 00:58:19.980 james murez: Thank you Sema. 500 00:58:22.620 --> 00:58:23.340 james murez: See yes. 501 00:58:23.940 --> 00:58:29.640 james murez: Yes, oh, you know what excuse me for one second everybody I didn't check in these other people Nick are you here. 502 00:58:33.090 --> 00:58:34.980 robertthibodeau: heard an ego speaks I think he's here. 503 00:58:35.580 --> 00:58:36.540 Nico Ruderman: He was here i'm here. 504 00:58:36.810 --> 00:58:37.380 Nico Ruderman: i'm yeah. 505 00:58:37.560 --> 00:58:38.820 Nico Ruderman: I hear ya bye bye bye. 506 00:58:38.940 --> 00:58:39.960 robertthibodeau: jason's here. 507 00:58:40.200 --> 00:58:41.190 james murez: Jason are you here. 508 00:58:42.390 --> 00:58:43.050 Jason Sugars: To here, yes. 509 00:58:43.440 --> 00:58:43.830 Robert. 510 00:58:44.850 --> 00:58:46.710 james murez: Robert tippett know you're here yeah. 511 00:58:47.790 --> 00:58:50.370 james murez: Thank you up did Melissa show up I don't. 512 00:58:50.430 --> 00:58:51.240 robertthibodeau: think so. 513 00:58:51.330 --> 00:58:53.880 robertthibodeau: And Mohammed haven't seen him. 514 00:58:54.090 --> 00:58:56.910 james murez: Okay, let me refresh this real quick, so I want to make. 515 00:58:56.940 --> 00:58:59.100 Jim Robb: I haven't seen him for about six meetings. 516 00:58:59.580 --> 00:59:01.740 james murez: yeah okay NICO, how do you vote. 517 00:59:04.290 --> 00:59:05.130 Nico Ruderman: I vote yes. 518 00:59:07.320 --> 00:59:08.970 james murez: um i'm Jim rob. 519 00:59:09.120 --> 00:59:09.930 Yes. 520 00:59:11.670 --> 00:59:12.810 james murez: Jason sugars. 521 00:59:15.210 --> 00:59:16.350 Jason Sugars: I have to go yes. 522 00:59:18.300 --> 00:59:18.870 james murez: alley. 523 00:59:19.470 --> 00:59:19.920 Yes. 524 00:59:22.320 --> 00:59:22.890 Chie Lunn: Yes. 525 00:59:23.940 --> 00:59:24.690 james murez: Mike. 526 00:59:25.230 --> 00:59:25.680 No. 527 00:59:27.570 --> 00:59:28.380 james murez: solo down. 528 00:59:28.530 --> 00:59:29.070 Yes. 529 00:59:30.360 --> 00:59:31.170 james murez: cj. 530 00:59:33.630 --> 00:59:34.380 james murez: Elizabeth. 531 00:59:35.070 --> 00:59:37.140 james murez: Yes, Robert. 532 00:59:37.380 --> 00:59:39.360 james murez: Yes, Clark. 533 00:59:39.630 --> 00:59:40.110 Though. 534 00:59:41.790 --> 00:59:42.420 james murez: raquel. 535 00:59:44.280 --> 00:59:44.970 michael jensen: Yes. 536 00:59:46.410 --> 00:59:48.390 james murez: And I will vote yes also. 537 00:59:49.920 --> 00:59:53.220 james murez: The motion carries 16 to zero. 538 00:59:54.720 --> 00:59:57.960 james murez: And that will conclude our meeting Thank you everyone. 539 00:59:58.950 --> 00:59:59.400 clark brown: Thank you. 540 00:59:59.850 --> 01:00:00.330 robertthibodeau: Thank you. 541 01:00:01.980 --> 01:00:04.350 Alley Bean: Question are we going to have as I. 542 01:00:08.040 --> 01:00:09.210 Alley Bean: said the CIS. 543 01:00:11.580 --> 01:00:12.960 james murez: Ali Ali, I will. 544 01:00:12.990 --> 01:00:14.370 james murez: do this with you offline i've. 545 01:00:14.430 --> 01:00:23.610 james murez: got i've got to start the other okay sorry Thank you everyone for coming do appreciate it hope this all works out for everybody and we'll sure we'll revisit this. 546 01:00:23.820 --> 01:00:25.080 CJ Cole: again in the future. 547 01:00:25.590 --> 01:00:26.340 CJ Cole: Thank you. 548 01:00:26.610 --> 01:00:26.970 james murez: bye bye. 549 01:00:28.770 --> 01:00:29.910 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you everyone.