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jim murez: Okay, everybody hold your horses, I see you're all there.

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Daffodil Tyminski: hi Jim.

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jim murez: hi can you hear me okay.

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jim murez: yeah I told matt who's in the the audience already that we're going to try and get him on the agenda as early as possible, I think we'll put in between government reports and committee reports.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay who's matt.

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jim murez: um he's the President of.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Right right down right yeah yeah.

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jim murez: del rey yeah he doesn't want to hang out here all night.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Right now that's fine that's fine.

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jim murez: So it's going to be the police reports, and then he'll then we'll do government reports, and then he'll be on.

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Vicki Halliday: Okay, I can't can embrace just texted me for a link the link wasn't live for some reason, on the agenda, so I just told him he's got to cut and paste it.

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Daffodil Tyminski: that's what I did.

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Vicki Halliday: yeah it wasn't it was weird this time not to be live in the police did not come yet so if I drop off that's why.

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jim murez: Oh alright.

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Vicki Halliday: Because I had a break in gym.

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Vicki Halliday: With me here.

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Vicki Halliday: Sorry, I had attempted break in at five o'clock while I was here.

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jim murez: Oh, my God, I saw the squirrel was so it was it was an ugly face it wasn't it wasn't the.

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Vicki Halliday: Guy with a hammer.

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jim murez: Oh, my God, are you Okay, I guess you're okay.

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Vicki Halliday: yeah i'm fine i'm but Captain emmerich was great he was going to send.

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Vicki Halliday: A couple of guys over here but they're down the beach looking for them, because my neighbors chastening.

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jim murez: So Captain number cuz here we can promote him to i'm.

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Vicki Halliday: Just your.

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Vicki Halliday: surgeon cook is your kid.

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jim murez: yeah why don't we go ahead and start promoting more of these people.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Definitely I want.

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Daffodil Tyminski: me to I can promote people.

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jim murez: So you can help you I.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Will yeah we've got a bunch of our board members waiting.

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jim murez: yeah I see that we're still early but yeah there you go.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I see you nico's.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Promoting you.

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Vicki Halliday: I Steve.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: hi everybody.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: hi vicki yeah I couldn't believe you're still on the meeting after that uh that having that incident at your House so anyway, the guys are out there, looking for him right now, and so the beach officers are looking and you should have had some patrol officers come by as well, great.

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Vicki Halliday: When they when they come by i'll break off and go outside Thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: cj I see you i'm promoting you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: know I tried to eat it okay.

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jim murez: didn't work, but I tried.

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Daffodil Tyminski: eating a little bit before the meeting.

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jim murez: I forget, are we promoting all of our committee chairs, I think we do definitely because Keith is here huh yeah.

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jim murez: yep.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'm trying to promote you just see now.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Bruno I see you there.

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Jim Robb: Thank you.

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jim murez: Like Melissa diners on her way she just texted me.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And we will have.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Acquiring to get started, if we want, we can wait.

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jim murez: Because the beginning is just a few reports anyway so let's.

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jim murez: We have attendees we have a few attendees.

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Daffodil Tyminski: We do have some attendees yeah no.

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jim murez: slob another minute or two.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Alright i'm trying, I see you there i'm promoting you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you you're welcome.

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jim murez: moosa was there a second ago.

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jim murez: Did you just promote her oh there, she is.

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jim murez: jumping around, though.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Now i'm trying.

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jim murez: Okay.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Oh there, she is hey Melissa.

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melissa diner: Hello.

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jim murez: So it looks like we have what 1314 board members.

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jim murez: Certainly, have a quorum.

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jim murez: Why don't we go ahead and get started it's 601 let me.

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Daffodil Tyminski: We have 13 board members.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Still, a quarter and Clark is here.

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jim murez: OK.

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jim murez: OK, so I brought up the agenda.

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jim murez: The time is 601.

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jim murez: let's go ahead and get this show on the road.

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jim murez: i'm gonna go ahead and start saving this time on it.

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jim murez: Okay i'm here.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'm here hold on one second.

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Daffodil Tyminski: My probably just arrived.

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jim murez: Okay, Melissa.

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jim murez: Melissa diner.

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jim murez: Andre.

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jim murez: vicki.

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jim murez: Bruno.

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jim murez: See ma.

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jim murez: NICO.

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Nico Ruderman: here.

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jim murez: Jim Ross.

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jim murez: Mohammed.

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jim murez: Stan.

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jim murez: Jason sugars.

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jim murez: Le.

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Chie Lunn: here.

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jim murez: Mike Bravo, the first one was Britain Bruno was very know here also yeah I think he was.

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Bruno Hernandez: Yes, i'm here.

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jim murez: Okay Mike bravo.

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Mike Bravo: Yes, here.

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jim murez: A solid out.

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jim murez: i'm.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Just showing Jim.

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jim murez: DJ y'all go back.

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jim murez: Here all over.

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jim murez: Elizabeth.

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Elizabeth Clay: here.

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jim murez: Robert.

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jim murez: And Clark.

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jim murez: And Sema.

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jim murez: Let me guess you got it.

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jim murez: yeah there we go.

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jim murez: Are we missing you too buddy holly did you make it.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I don't see alley or Jason or standard.

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jim murez: So we clearly have a quorum.

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jim murez: We have 17 ex parte communications and conflicts of interest.

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jim murez: Anybody.

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jim murez: speak now somebody has her hand up Clark go ahead.

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clark brown: I talked about this with Elizabeth clay and ellie been and I emailed everyone on the board about it, but this is that in wishing to buy them 15.

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jim murez: Okay, thank you anybody else.

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jim murez: NICO.

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Nico Ruderman: yeah I spoke about this with Jim I spoke about item 15 I spoke about it i'll spoke with clay and I had numerous.

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Nico Ruderman: Members of the West Chester Community contacts me.

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jim murez: Thank you NICO.

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jim murez: I also spoke to the folks in westchester.

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jim murez: about this and spoke to vicki about item 15 also.

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jim murez: and receive multiple emails from Clark and had one or two conversations with him.

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Daffodil Tyminski: and

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Daffodil Tyminski: I also spoke with some folks in westchester.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And, on item.

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Daffodil Tyminski: 22 was in contact with del rey about.

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Daffodil Tyminski: The border change.

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jim murez: Okay, oh yeah that's actually we all did that in in public testimony of the mean in the rules and selection committees but that's going to come up anyway that's.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, and Alice here, by the way, alley i'm trying to promote you.

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CJ Cole: yay.

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jim murez: Okay cj go ahead.

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CJ Cole: I did have conversation on am 25 robbins.

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jim murez: cj are you here Oh, excuse me not cj Ali.

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jim murez: Did she make it in.

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Alley Bean: i'm in I just got in.

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jim murez: Sorry, very good.

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Alley Bean: There you go.

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jim murez: Very good, thank you Alex.

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jim murez: For the reminder yeah okay I texted how you just as a reminder it's at six o'clock okay um.

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jim murez: let's move on in the agenda now cj did you have your hand up for a reason.

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CJ Cole: for that.

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CJ Cole: Okay i'll take it down.

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jim murez: So what we're gonna do is we're going to have.

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jim murez: lapd oh go ahead, le did you I.

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Alley Bean: Just mix.

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Alley Bean: I just mix miss the ex parte.

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Alley Bean: Yes, I I had conversations with your sister Robin miras about her item on the agenda.

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jim murez: Okay.

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Alley Bean: After the Ad communities had some questions so we talked about it so.

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jim murez: Okay, thank you.

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Alley Bean: let's say that okay.

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jim murez: yeah not a problem, so what we're gonna do is we're going to take i'm scrolling down here to see what the Item number was for the del rey border, the President of the del rey association is here tonight and we're going to move him up just so everybody's aware of it.

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jim murez: Here, this one here number 22 we're going to be moving this item up just after government presentations.

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jim murez: Just so everyone's aware of that now matter courtesy to not make another president from another neighborhood Council wait.

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jim murez: Through everything that we have for local business Okay, having said that i'm.

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jim murez: vicki would you like to introduce our our public safety officers.

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Vicki Halliday: So she might have gone to I believe the only one here tonight is Captain in brick from lapd.

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Vicki Halliday: Look, for our munda while you're talking but.

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Vicki Halliday: I think the rest of your cred deserve it.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: Thank you vicki actually i'm joined tonight by lieutenant promotable Mike applegate he is my new partner he's the new incoming patrol commanding officer.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: Also in our audience, we have started Brian cookies all these are community relations sergeant.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: I also have sergeant Jeffrey lubbock who we recently moved into Brian cooks out position, so he is the new supervisor in charge of our senior lead officers and, of course.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: Our dedicated senior lead officer mooney control, this is also on in the audience if you guys, do you have any questions, following my brief presentation.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: Number one, I want to start off by congratulating the La rams on their super bowl victory la has yet another thing to be proud of.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: So this event drew a lot of visitors to Los Angeles, which was great for local businesses, we had fantastic weather last weekend last week and through the weekend, encouraging our visitors to visit our fantastic outdoor venues are our officers are Pacific officers, we deployed throughout.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: The city protecting not only nfl venues, but also other high traffic areas throughout this special deployment period.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: We ensured that we maintained our patrol deployment minimums throughout that period.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: And that is going to continue throughout the period we're sending a lot of officers to the break, but I want to ensure the Community.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: That we are going to maintain the officers, that we have dedicated assigned to patrol so they will be available to report to respond to your calls for certain service.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: So super bowl begin for Venice was very uneventful except we had we did have two significant and tragic events.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: Which i'll briefly talk about and number one I think you know but everybody knows about the first one and that's a robbery that included a shots fired that occurred last Wednesday that was February 9.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: In the afternoon around 145 hours, so we didn't receive a radio coffee shop radio call of shots fired which is unusual because usually anytime there's a shots fired.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: We received multiple radio calls in this case, we did not the first radio called we got was from the hospital.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: And that was something less to the hospital because they were treating a man who separate from a gunshot wound injury so.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: quickly figured out that the shooting occurred in Washington del.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: And the officers were able to interview the victim, as well as a witness and appears booking where visitors for Florida they came out on a trip they toured Venice beach.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: And it appears that they're falling off Venice beach, and they were robbed when they return to the rental car they took the man's watch and fled so.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: Unfortunately, we don't have suspicion custody, but there are some follow ups which they detective skin.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: are going to pursue this investigation because it is being classified as a fall off robbery is being conducted by our elite robbery homicide division.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: If anyone at from the Community has any further information related to this crime, please contact us or contact robbery homicide division and we will share that information with the.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: Additionally, on valentine's day early in the morning, this is a separate incident, we did have a shooting near the library, and that was on February 14 at 315 in the morning, your venison grand.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: How this incident originated was it happened inside that encampments it was started as a dispute between.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: Two persons experiencing homelessness quickly escalated one of the persons produced a handgun shot, the other man in the lake Luckily, the man survived and he's now in stable condition at a local hospital so.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: The officers who were conduct investigation put out a crime broadcast other Pacific officers responded to the area they stopped two persons who were very close to the description of the suspects were looking for.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: The officers detain them recover to guns, one of the guns was a ghost gun, the other gun was 1911 style handgun.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: After after questioning those suspects, it was determined that they were not the persons involved in shooting but we were very glad to get two more guns off the street.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: We also arrested, one of them for possession of the firearms and he also did have outstanding warrants from Colorado and will be extradited at some point in the judicial process.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: So, in looking over the basic part crime, I know because we just had the significant events, it seems like Venice is more dangerous than ever.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: But actually have some really good news for you, because this time compared to last year violent crime is actually down so in monique's area that is the the people who live between Venice beach now to Abbot kinney violent crime is down 44%.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: And in Adrian acosta's area, so if you fall when in his area that's abbott Kenny out to Lincoln violent crime is down 40% we do have some property crime concerns, though, especially in.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: Especially in a cost as area during the restart up significantly we have 16 burglary so far this year, compared to six last year.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: And what we are concerned about is that it appears that we have an organized burglary crew operating in the Venice area.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: And so far this year week seven of those 16 burglaries have involved commercial locations in which the business is broken into the safest taken.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: So if anybody has any information related to this or video that they can share with the police department, please feel free to reach out.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: and share that with us, otherwise acosta and and contrast will continue visiting all of the businesses making sure that they're aware of this crime trend going on right now.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: So auto fests in monique's area are slightly up, we have 17 verses 14 and I just want to remind the Community.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: That a big factor in these cars that are being stolen, we have a lot of keys or key fobs to be left in vehicles, which makes it very easy to steal.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: So anywhere between 30 and 40% of the car stolen weekly include a key fob or a key in the car and in some occasions.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: Running cars left running and a lot of those are delivery drivers they show up her restaurants, they run in quickly to pick up food leave their car running somebody walks up jokes into the car drives away.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: So those are the crime trends that we're experiencing so far this year, the other thing, as always, always mentioned the bicycles, because we are the world capital right now for bicycle thefts.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: About 30% of them are taken during the Commission of a burglary that's when somebody breaks into your garage or breaks into your House and takes a bicycle but the large majority or bicycles, that are outside.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: And somebody just takes them and goes away so especially electronic bicycles, are on the rise, right now, and they count as a motor vehicle in addition to a bicycle thefts, so it sounds like they're working on some legislation, I noticed that it was emotion.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: put forward at City Council this this week in which they would.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: Make it illegal to work on any bicycles on sidewalks I think that would be very, we are very supportive of it, and I think it would assist in our efforts so at this point, that concludes my brief.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: Thank you.

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jim murez: Thank you did you have did any of the other officers want to talk about any of their things, or should we just.

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jim murez: How would you like to handle that.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: Well, you know what none of the other officers contacted me otherwise if they'd like to include any information they can contact vicki.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: texture and then I guess you guys can elevate them to a panelist.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, or raise their hands, I have a few folks on phone numbers I can't tell who's who.

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Daffodil Tyminski: They want to speak, they can raise your hand i'll promote them.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Seeing your hands.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I think you may be pretty much sums it up.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you.

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Captain STEVE EMBRICH: Okay, thank you, everybody.

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jim murez: Thank lapd for all you guys do for.

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jim murez: us, we appreciate it.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, appreciate you very much yeah Thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you, thanks guys.

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Vicki Halliday: looks like Armando on the list he can.

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Vicki Halliday: hear us yes.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah you're and he's been promoted to a panelist.

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Vicki Halliday: Oh excellent.

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Armando Hogan: So hi vicki, thank you for the invite.

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Armando Hogan: Jim always a pleasure to see all of you, I do have one complaint, though, following lapd particularly Captain embraces a very difficult test, so I asked that you all be patient with me, since you put me after that superstar.

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jim murez: But never say well quick.

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jim murez: neck next month we will put you first.

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Armando Hogan: Thank you Steve i'm going to hold you to that, but.

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Armando Hogan: that's Joe is a gym okay all right.

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Armando Hogan: i'm sorry Thank you so much, I want to thank, law enforcement, I appreciate the partnership, and I do applaud the great work that they do.

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Armando Hogan: vicki asked me to jump on, and the reason i'm so honored to jump on is just to share with you a couple things that have taken place recently.

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Armando Hogan: One of the things that we were able to do in the Venice area we arrested two individuals.

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Armando Hogan: That were the main causes of starting rubbish fires and encampment fires, so we feel very happy about that want to thank lapd for their assistance in that endeavor.

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Armando Hogan: And the we were able to capture this individual because they were actually lighting trashcan fires on the boardwalk as they continue to walk and who knows where that would.

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Armando Hogan: escalate to or move to so our arson investigators did a really good job.

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Armando Hogan: we've really tried to raise the awareness of my local fire companies to make sure that they get out after a rubbish fire, particularly if it's in close proximity to an encampment or near encampment.

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Armando Hogan: So we can make the arson notifications and get people out to capture, to make sure whether it's accidental or if it was purposeful, but the main thing is, is to get a snapshot and to make sure that the Community knows that we're being responsive.

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Armando Hogan: To their concerns the other thing is, we had the fast response vehicle with our pH Program.

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Armando Hogan: We were able to come back to we were in Hollywood for another 90 day pilot because, just so you all get an idea I try to hit every Council district, so we started in CD 11.

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Armando Hogan: Now we've moved to CD for and we're considering going to CD five at that point in time and then i'll go back to see 13.

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Armando Hogan: Those are the particular Council offices in my Bureau but based on that got a couple phone calls one from Claudia Martin.

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Armando Hogan: who had some concerns in the Mar vista area, so we were able to get our Fr bs out there on a Friday and basically I just hired them back for the day, so that they can do an assessment.

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Armando Hogan: The only reason we didn't go over to Venice the boardwalk on that particular day because Friday is kind of considered a cleanup day or there's usually resources out there.

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Armando Hogan: We also went over to third and rows and kind of visited those areas, just so we can keep our folks in stepping in stride of what's happening, and hopefully.

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Armando Hogan: continue to be a deterrent to those lighting fires or, more importantly, to those who are creating issues of concern for those of you in the Community.

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Armando Hogan: So what i'm looking to do now, right now, I only have one fast response vehicle that works for 10 hour days.

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Armando Hogan: We are looking at this point in time, speaking with the local council members i'm really pushing for two things one is to get more fast response vehicles in the area.

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Armando Hogan: And what that does is have them out basically.

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Armando Hogan: Not necessarily patrolling but patrolling because we understand there are only certain things that other city departments can do.

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Armando Hogan: So, from a fire department perspective, we want to try to get out and be a deterrent to any fires that are being lit and then also raise the awareness, for those individuals who are.

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Armando Hogan: You know cooking having cooking fires or having warming fires.

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Armando Hogan: So that they're not pulling those in the tent so that they're obscure so we're trying to look at better ways that we can provide service in that endeavor.

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Armando Hogan: And then the other thing that i'm really looking to do is try to have our arson investigators decentralized and what I mean by that, right now, they could principally work out of downtown i'd like to have two or four there.

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Armando Hogan: In the Venice area or in what we call our battalion for and then that way, they would automatically respond to rubbish fires automatically respond to some structure fires.

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Armando Hogan: or any encampment type fires or anything of a suspicious cause we get them to go without having to request them so that way we can start to rule out if there was some nexus to criminal activity or something that.

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Armando Hogan: It causes concern in the Community so looking at exploring those options I don't have the funding, yet, nor do I have the staffing.

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Armando Hogan: But i'm going to continue to work towards that and Those are some of the things that I wanted to be able to share.

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Armando Hogan: With all of you, in addition to your own preparedness and, in addition to the fact that I appreciate the opportunity to spend time with all of you, so I don't know Jim if i'm allowed to take any questions, but if that is okay, Sir i'd be more than willing to do such.

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jim murez: yeah we don't we don't want to get too far off track so we're not taking questions during presentations just want to remind you that we are having an emergency preparedness town hall, I believe.

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jim murez: Later in the month vicki is that.

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jim murez: Is that the end of this month, or is it next, but I think it's next month isn't it.

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jim murez: yeah Keith are you still here.

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Keith Harrison: Yes, I am.

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jim murez: And what's the date of the.

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Keith Harrison: 23rd it's the 23rd of this month, and I believe we've sent an invitation to chief hogan via the neighborhood training program folks.

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jim murez: Very good, thank you.

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Keith Harrison: And also Rico gross Captain Rico gross has been invited.

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Armando Hogan: yeah Rico gross reached out to me and first of all hey Keith good to see you again, Sir, thank you very much, and then yes Rico did reach out to me because he wanted to kind of do something tandem, but we want to do something that.

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Armando Hogan: You all are looking for, or that you think would be able to enhance our presence there, so we want to make sure that we we meet whatever those a request that you all have.

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Armando Hogan: So thanks for that as well.

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Keith Harrison: Thank you.

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jim murez: yeah and so Keith Keith so reach out to you if there's anything that we need from there, but he's been in charge of that doing a great job.

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Armando Hogan: Perfect you've got the right man there Jim you got the right man on the job.

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jim murez: Today yeah I realize it's a real luxury, thank you for making it this evening we do appreciate it.

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Armando Hogan: No, I appreciate you all, thank you very much, please be safe, I apologize, I have to jump on another meeting, but other than that, thank you for the opportunity, and please all of you stay safe, and I wish you and your families my absolute best.

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jim murez: Thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: amanda Thank you.

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jim murez: let's move back to our agenda for a second, so now we have government representatives, and who do we have in the audience tonight.

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jim murez: Does anybody know if there's a deputy from councilman bonds office.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I did not see anyone Jim and Janet turner's here.

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jim murez: Okay, and I guess, I saw her, she was she was a panelist already.

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jim murez: We if we have any government officials here.

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jim murez: That are not currently panelist if you could raise your hand press star nine appear on a cell phone, let us know that you're here, so we can promote you and give you an opportunity to speak Janet would you like to go first.

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Janet Turner: Thank you so much Hello everyone nice to see you hopefully we'll get to be in person soon fingers crossed.

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Janet Turner: So i'm just coming with a couple of quick reminders if you know, a high school student who is interested in attending a surface academy like we're talking about West point or Annapolis, they should come and register.

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Janet Turner: For Congressman lose.

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Janet Turner: Virtual service academy day the event is this Saturday from 12 to four, but you need to register by going to lulu.house.gov slash services it's free and you'll get all kinds of information about what it takes to get into a service Academy.

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Janet Turner: Also, if you know any high school students now, this is a little more restricted, they have to live or go to school in California.

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Janet Turner: we're still accepting submissions of artwork for the Congressional art COMP until this Friday February 18 at 5pm those are virtual submissions again go to lulu.house.gov slash services for specifics about how that is done.

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Janet Turner: On another note on January 20 REP blue introduced his prevent homelessness act, this will establish a housing Stability Fund.

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Janet Turner: To provide emergency housing assistance to low income renters and Homeowners as a way to prevent homelessness so fingers crossed you just introduced that we're hoping to get some traction get we get it passed this year.

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Janet Turner: And our area received a do T grant 5.8 million to repair infrastructure that was damaged during the war Z fire.

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Janet Turner: I don't want to take up too much of your time, so our office is is open.

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Janet Turner: Virtually you can call them in office number, and it goes into our homes, we are happy to talk to you into casework and and help you with any government agency problem, you may be having a thank you so much for letting me have beyond tonight.

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jim murez: Thank you Jana we do appreciate it say hi say hi to the Congressman place.

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jim murez: Up daffodil do we have any other.

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Daffodil Tyminski: We do we have two more, we have an action on who's on and why don't you go ahead and action there's someone else we lost track of in the panel because we've got so many people's palates at the moment.

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Nico Ruderman: i'm Melissa needs to be a lot of.

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Daffodil Tyminski: You know what i've been trying to fill the last 10 minutes, and she declining to join so.

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Vishesh Anand: Okay, so I think, the floor is mine, good evening everyone it's nice to see you all my name is vicious on, and I am Eric Eric our cities, new Western your representative.

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Vishesh Anand: Prior to joining the mayor's office, I was with consumer bones office, I was the deputy from our vista and del rey.

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Vishesh Anand: So I am familiar with the area I have lived here in the West side for about 10 years now and it's a pleasure joining us tonight, I do have quite a few updates but i'll try to make them quick.

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Vishesh Anand: First and foremost, like I said, we are very excited about the rams winning, as you may have heard, we are having a partnership with.

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Vishesh Anand: The rams and the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce to temporarily change the Hollywood sign to rams house the installation is currently underway and it's expected to.

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Vishesh Anand: be up for the significant part of the week definitely until the rally and Wednesday very excited about seeing that hopefully i'll get a glimpse of that as well.

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Vishesh Anand: Moving on to some of the mayor initiatives this or last week mayor garcetti launched free text prep la.

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Vishesh Anand: This is a program that provides working class families and opportunity for free tax services if you'd like to learn more about this, the website is free tax prep la calm.

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Vishesh Anand: And you can get these services until 418 so again the website is free tax prep la COM and then this month or office launched API le.

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Vishesh Anand: it's an initiative to address the needs and challenges of the Asian American and Pacific islander community.

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Vishesh Anand: As we all know, the rise in Asian crime is a trend we have seen since the start of the pandemic, and so this is a part of the mayor's initiative to.

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Vishesh Anand: Hopefully tackle that the centerpiece of the API la initiative is a podcast if you'd like to learn more about this, you can visit API le.org.

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Vishesh Anand: And then on the park side la city parks or resume their le play play la program it's a program that makes sports more accessible in our city so for just a $10 registration fee it eliminates economic barriers and makes recreation, a more inclusive.

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Vishesh Anand: task to attain for all communities in Los Angeles.

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Vishesh Anand: Also in the city level, the minimum wage is set to increase the $16 and four cents on July 1 this year.

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Vishesh Anand: As you all know, the city had increased the wage to $15 and in that ordinance it stated that in.

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Vishesh Anand: July 1 2022 and moving forward the minimum wage, will increase, based on the consumer price index so for this year in July it's going to be going up to $16 and four cents and we're very proud.

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Vishesh Anand: To be on our track of being able to provide fair and living wages for our angelenos.

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Vishesh Anand: And then the last city wet update that I really wanted to mention was that this month the mayor signed the City Council action that will end oil and gas drilling in Los Angeles.

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Vishesh Anand: The ordinance calls for the Department of city planning and the city to city attorney's office to drop an ordinance that will essentially prohibit.

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Vishesh Anand: Ongoing extraction activities, as well as prohibit any new oil and gas extraction.

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Vishesh Anand: This is a great step in the right direction for us to achieve our Green New Deal goals and make our city, more sustainable and greener for everyone.

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Vishesh Anand: And then, finally, like all city employees my email is my first name dot last name at least ed.org so that's the chef on an lcd.org you ever need to reach out happy to speak with you and tactically or concerns prior to the meetings as well, thank you.

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jim murez: Thank you definitely would you say we had somebody I.

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Daffodil Tyminski: We have zach kids IQ.

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jim murez: Oh great.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Good.

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Zac Gaidzik: Good evening everyone, first let me apologize for not having my camera on i'm afraid that my beloved macbook air that i'd been using for such a long time I learned, it does not like rosy as much as I do.

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Zac Gaidzik: So i'm currently using a little bit of an older computer that doesn't have such a working camera so with that i'm going to jump into things so good news today we have officially transition into our post surge.

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Daffodil Tyminski: So what that count jack just i'm sorry to interrupt tell us who you're with.

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Daffodil Tyminski: US and we're representing.

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Zac Gaidzik: Yes, zachary guides like I am the West side field deputy for la county supervisor she looked cool.

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Zac Gaidzik: I apologize it's been a little while since i've been here but i've been trying to send in some updates in writing beforehand.

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Zac Gaidzik: With redistricting we've changed some of our jurisdictions and so we're still trying to get a handle on everything, so I did get more Venice which i'm very excited about um so as I was saying we've entered our post search.

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Zac Gaidzik: For the oma Kron search and what that means.

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Zac Gaidzik: While there's still a lot of the virus circulating within our communities that are hospitalizations has finally gotten to a low enough point for a long enough period of time.

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Zac Gaidzik: That we're in a much better place in terms of our hospitals ability to provide care to people on the as needed basis that we have, and along with that.

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Zac Gaidzik: We also are saw some changes to our outdoor masking requirements, specifically for outdoor mega events, while they're still recommended they're no longer mandated to be worn and similarly for.

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Zac Gaidzik: K through 12 schools childcare centers in the outdoor spaces master no longer required that they continue to be recommended in terms of indoor masking we are breaking with the State while there's is expiring la county is going to be is going to keep its indoor masking requirement.

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Zac Gaidzik: For a little while longer as we wait until we finally get to moderate levels of transmission within the Community, which is around as less than.

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Zac Gaidzik: 50 people per 100,000 we're not there yet, but we're close and, at the current rate of decline, we should be able to get there by the end of within about a month or so.

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Zac Gaidzik: And that's really, really good news, it means that once again we're going to be able to take off our masks.

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Zac Gaidzik: As we'd like to remember you can always wear a mask if you want, you know one will stop you from wearing a mask and you can layer them like any piece of summer fashion or winter fashion as we're seeing today it's suddenly winter again.

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Zac Gaidzik: So just as a reminder for all those things i'm also big reminder, if you are not vaccinated get.

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Zac Gaidzik: Go get vaccinated if you have not gotten your booster yet go get your booster if you have any friends or family who have not gotten vaccinate or knocked out in their booster.

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Zac Gaidzik: Go take them to get those we have plenty of those available and, similarly, if you have any symptoms whatsoever of covert.

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Zac Gaidzik: You can get the over the counter test or you can go to one of the La county testing sites, we have a significant amount of testing capacity currently available i'm going to leave it at that and we'll send in some other some other updates to gym to share with us.

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jim murez: Thank you zach one quick question you said, your area expanded.

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jim murez: it's my understanding that Venice has now been divided into two supervisor districts Is that correct.

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Zac Gaidzik: So Venice was already into super Victorian districts, the third, and the second and it's still the third, and the second I just got more of Venice and also I got mar vista so I was speaking more specifically about my areas.

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Zac Gaidzik: As a as the West side field deputy rather than the overall third district.

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jim murez: Okay, thank you very much take care, and thank you for attending tonight we missed you.

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Zac Gaidzik: good to be back.

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jim murez: yeah you get a new camera.

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jim murez: um Okay, do we have anybody else daffodil.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I don't see anyone else, and if anyone's here under another number or something please raise your hand we can promote you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: But I don't think there's anyone else.

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jim murez: Okay, so i'm sharing my screen again.

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jim murez: So now we want to.

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jim murez: scroll down I think we're going to close that section of our meeting and let's go down here now and take a look at this boundary adjustment.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'm sorry Jim young Freddie raised his hand Freddie.

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Daffodil Tyminski: panels, he should be able to speak Friday, I think.

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jim murez: Friday going.

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Daffodil Tyminski: So sorry.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): No worries just going to do a quick quick because I already emailed the whole board my report so on February 24 at 6pm is a.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): advocacy political legislative advocacy workshop for candidate forums, so you can rsvp I gave you the link for that so again, it will be on Thursday February 24 at 6:30pm.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): If you're not able to make it then don't worry, it will be recorded, to give you the highlights of you know how to manage candidate forums and and.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): The applicable laws right now we're waiting for 10 cab the city attorney's office to give us a more guidance with our slides that will be sharing with the the attendees and when it's recorded as well.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Also.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): The la city Youth Council we're thrilled to again share this opportunity for young angelenos between the ages 16 to 25 who have a passion and interest in civic engagement.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): In my email the Los Angeles youth development department is excited to announce the first ever olivia Mitchell le city Youth Council.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): This youth led Council will comprise of 30 young angelenos ages 16 to 25 from all over the city of La.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Applications for the first cohort will be open, from January 28 until February 28 so deadlines close approaching.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): And if you have a few or any young individual that you know of is been looking for an opportunity to amplify youth voices please consider applying to be on the La city count the La City Council website at Youth Council la city.org.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Also for nc funding trainings with the city clerk the upcoming dates for February, March for those that are financial officers and need to complete your training or renewed or training.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): on Tuesdays February 22 from six to eight March 8 from two to 4pm march 22 from six to 8pm on those Tuesdays will be the training.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): The program specific workshops will be on Thursdays and that will be Thursday February 17 from two to 3:30pm march 3 from two to 3:30pm march 17 from six to 7:30pm and the topics that will be covered our neighborhood purpose grants.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): So you can rsvp at the city clerk's website for that also I wanted to kind of flag, the issue that lat on Thursday January 20 till Friday January 28 there was.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): An outage on the email addresses based on our empower la.org domain, so that any messages sent at that time to any email address ending in that at empower laid.org or probably not received.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): This includes addresses, such as communications and apparently that org rosters and empower lila.org which are the two main website email addresses to help with the getting your training or updating your rosters.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Also, I know that there's going to be the next item, but the bylaws amendment application is due April 1 i'm glad to see some of the items already being considered for this meeting.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): and also my link is the bylaws template as well as the application and I look forward to helping this and see as they try to move forward with the many of their bylaws and or boundaries some.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): With that will also take into consideration the board neighbor Commissioners who will have to do the final approval for that and, last but not least.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): The Board neighbor Commissioners is reviewing two different policies, the first one is digital communications and social media policy.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Currently, the, the most recent draft as of October 14 of 2021 and the second policy is the proposed amendments to the Code of Conduct.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): There will be a final date for both of those policies, yet to be determined, where the board neighbor Commissioners will be doing their the final review and approval of those policies for neighborhood Councils.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): To give you a timeline digital communications and social media policy was introduced in September 29 2020 and the code of conduct was.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): was submitted and July of last year, so both of them have had plenty of opportunities for feedback amendments and.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): sometime after the March meeting there'll be a more of the Board neighbor Commissioners meeting there'll be more clarity as to when the final date for final approval, those who policies will be.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Moving forward other than that I look forward to helping you as the sensing moves forward with emotions.

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jim murez: Thank you Freddie if you can stay around the, the next item, we have on our agenda is a boundary of adjustment and I understand that.

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jim murez: yourself and i've been our parliamentarian have had some discussions about how that needs to be submitted as a as a I guess a bilateral adjustment to both neighborhood Councils, if you could stick around so we don't have to go over it all over again that'd be helpful.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Perfect will stay, thank you.

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jim murez: um.

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jim murez: Okay, definitely do we have any other government folks on.

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Daffodil Tyminski: um I believe we have one more who is Lucy hi.

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jim murez: Lucy hi are you here.

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Daffodil Tyminski: She should be panelists.

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jim murez: you'd have to unmute.

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Daffodil Tyminski: and well, she was promoted and.

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jim murez: he's here, I see she is a panelist Lucy hon are you interested in speaking tonight raise your hand or unmute yourself.

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Lucy Han: i'm so sorry.

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Lucy Han: that's okay hear me now.

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jim murez: yeah yeah.

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Lucy Han: Very good okay i'm so sorry, can I speak on item 15.

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jim murez: uh well why don't you wait until we we we get to that item.

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jim murez: Okay you're here you're representing home.

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Lucy Han: Friends the jungle.

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Lucy Han: In Community nonprofit here in Playa del rey.

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jim murez: Okay um I think that that was probably an error on our part you're not a government oh.

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Lucy Han: No i'm not no i'm not.

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jim murez: Okay sorry well yeah you'll get a chance to speak on item 15 when we get there.

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Lucy Han: Thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Sorry.

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jim murez: sorry about that problem okay um let's go on to let me go back and share our screen so everybody knows what this is, and I need somebody to make the motion the motions now on the screen, I assume, everyone can read it there.

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Andrea Boccaletti: And today, I will make a motion.

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Thank you.

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jim murez: Where are you listed There you are, and second.

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Elizabeth Clay: Second.

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jim murez: Is that Elizabeth.

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jim murez: Elizabeth clay there we go okay um we need somebody to actually read it if anybody would like to read that for me.

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Daffodil Tyminski: You want me to read it.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Key scroll down just a little bit Oh, the emotion sorry I see it.

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Daffodil Tyminski: The emotion.

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Daffodil Tyminski: The emotion is to amend the Venice neighborhood Council boundary to exclude lots of long East side of Lincoln boulevard between Mexico and Washington boulevard so is to include them within the del rey neighborhood Council overlay B and C and D R amp Z to coordinate the boundary adjustments.

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jim murez: And having read that and we have the motion on the floor um, this is the boundary map that illustrates what we're talking about in metal explain this in a minute, I would just can everybody see my cursor here.

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jim murez: yeah Okay, so this dotted line it's a dash dot dot This is our current boundary and it makes a jog right here at Max sela and then comes out and it continues down in this direction, down to the end of what's known in our sub barrier regions as the Oxford triangle.

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jim murez: So, so this this line continues down to about where the end of the 90 freeway is but down the Center line of Lincoln boulevard.

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jim murez: The adjustment that's being proposed is that it's going a new boundary would go out to the Center of Lincoln boulevard at Washington.

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jim murez: And it would then continue straight, all the way down without having this dark blue strip included in the Venice neighborhood Council, but rather in the.

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jim murez: del rey neighborhood Council and tonight we are honored to have a representative from the del rey neighborhood Council here matt take it away.

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Matt Wersinger: Thank you, Jim Thank you all for your service Thank you guys for considering this item, this has been on our mind since 2019 and we started looking at the Community plan update.

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Matt Wersinger: And as we looked at this area we realized that the glencoe maxell a specific plan, which is what shaded and blue and currently traverses the boundary.

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Matt Wersinger: should, in our opinion, fall all into one jurisdiction, the glencoe maxell specific plan is something that we.

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Matt Wersinger: have looked at in great detail it's something that we deal with on a regular basis, as far as things that are right and wrong with the way that's been written.

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Matt Wersinger: And we feel that it would be make a lot more sense for this area to be contiguous under one neighborhood Council because that specific plan does mandate and dictate a lot of what happens in there.

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Matt Wersinger: The old border was written, I believe it was drawn based on census tracts and some of those have shifted so that was probably the original reason for this.

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Matt Wersinger: And again, I don't think there's anything nefarious here I don't think it would impact anything that goes on in Venice i'm not aware of any pending development, this is just something that since we've.

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Matt Wersinger: Written our Community plan suggestions in 2019 we've said, this would make a lot more sense if we had the entirety of the specific plan in one place, we do.

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Matt Wersinger: We do already interface with a lot of what happens on that in that area.

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Matt Wersinger: We talked about the traffic and transportation, we look at the intersection of del rey and maxell is something that we've been working for a long time to improve we actually got the sidewalk installed.

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Matt Wersinger: By the starbucks on Max ella which i'm realizing now many years after helping to get this push through is in Venice, so all of this kind of folds into you know, an area that we consider.

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Matt Wersinger: Something that we already have a real interest in already so, in our opinion, and I hope you share it tonight it's just something that would be an adjustment, so that we can look at this as one one contiguous area i'm here to answer any questions if you guys have.

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jim murez: Thank you very much um before we open it to public comment, let me just make one other additional comment.

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jim murez: That matt left out because it's not something he normally has to deal with, that is, is that this area is not in the coastal zone.

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jim murez: Which means that it doesn't fall under coastal Commission jurisdiction, this is part of the municipal code, so it doesn't have the same kind of impacts that the West side does as far as the Venice.

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jim murez: Specific plan or the Venice land use plan have there is no land use plan or specific plan for this portion of East of Lincoln.

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jim murez: There is a.

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jim murez: There is a link and cord or plan, but that affects everyone on Lincoln on both sides.

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Matt Wersinger: yeah and Jim, let me just add you know in our Community plan notes, most of them are about how we get sidewalks and.

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Matt Wersinger: open space and things to be more consistent throughout that specific plan again that's it's really.

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Matt Wersinger: drawn up to foster some managed development within what was a warehouse industrial space, I think anyone who knows that area well knows that's turned over into these kind of low rise or mid rise apartment buildings but there's.

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Matt Wersinger: Apps on that development which we don't see any interest in changing.

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jim murez: Okay, thank you def adult let's open public comment, we probably are going to get some some people that want to speak on this and then from there we'll go to committee comment and then we'll.

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jim murez: take a vote on how we want to proceed.

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Daffodil Tyminski: door.

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Daffodil Tyminski: If you want to make a public comment raise your hand now.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I see three folks Helen fallin Lisa redmen and a color and again 895 so we'll let an Erica more.

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Daffodil Tyminski: So we'll let those for speak and then we'll close public comment.

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jim murez: And notice that Lucy lucy's hand is up also.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, I was, I see Lucy Han and I also see ravi Singh Karen.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead Helen.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Helen.

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Helen Fallon: Have unmuted me.

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Helen Fallon: I would like to point out that just boundary change you do lose control over the intersection at Washington awakened since the del rey boundary or extend to the Lincoln boulevard Center line.

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Helen Fallon: This means that del rey could be making decisions that do directly impact on the stakeholders that are there across that, on the other side of linger on.

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Helen Fallon: No one in Venice has had an opportunity to examine the glencoe Community plan, but apparently del rey's had three years to discuss this and we apparently are getting a few weeks, with no opportunity even know what the facts are on.

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Helen Fallon: Why weren't why wasn't this brought to the Venice Community before it's brought just before the deadline of the bylaws change.

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Helen Fallon: Just vote to postpone it do it after the bylaws change the bylaws deadline.

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Helen Fallon: Not if there's no urgency, apparently, since they've been discussing it for three years, and let us look at what the facts are, let us see what their Community plan is for that area we don't know what it is, thank you vote vote to post on it, or just object to it.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you how i'm Lisa.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead.

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Lisa Redmond: hey matt wessinger um it's Lisa hi I was calling is to say, you know it's just a teeny little slipper that really makes no sense for us to have it, I mean it's a 711.

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Lisa Redmond: it's a subway not a subway of Mike sandwich shop, we really don't need it, in fact, the electrical boss there in front of that 711.

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Lisa Redmond: Is all painted gloriously as del rey it's part of the del rey neighborhood and it's been soon as del rey I don't think it affects traffic, for us, because that line will go down the middle so.

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Lisa Redmond: They will still get to control that side of the East side of Lincoln and the South side of Washington and Lincoln whereas Venice will still have the West side of Lincoln for the North part of Washington.

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Lisa Redmond: For East Venice so it's it really it's I think we're squabbling over a little piece of land that is rightfully del rey's and it makes no sense for us to go there, so let del rey help their land back.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Here i'm.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Erica more go ahead.

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Erica Moore: hi can you yeah i'm here.

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Erica Moore: I actually feel that I kind of feel like a combo ELENA and Lisa said, it seems like it would make sense to give it to them, but I also feel like maybe there really should be a little bit more exploration on it, or if there's a way for.

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Erica Moore: A couple of the people to get together to go over it, to find out exactly what they're talking about about what they're thinking so it does make sense that.

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Erica Moore: Maybe we should just look at it, but obviously we shouldn't drag this out and it does seem like possibly it would make sense to give it to them that's what I have to say, thanks.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Erica i'm a telephone caller ending in 895.

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Daffodil Tyminski: You have to unmute yourself.

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Daffodil Tyminski: 895.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Press star six to unmute.

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jim murez: star six or star nine.

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1310****895: No i'm unmuted.

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1310****895: This is Elizabeth right and the change that is being requested is a bylaws change and i'm concerned that, among other things it says well we'll figure out the words later.

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1310****895: No, no, not for bylaws, especially when it is so important that it goes, all the way to bump so please postpone do some thinking get some real words in there, thank you very much.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, unless you're also logged in as a participant as Elizabeth Ray Is that correct her.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay um ravi Singh Karen.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Robbie.

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1530****387: hello, this is Deborah Houston did you call my name.

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Daffodil Tyminski: No, I did not but Oh, are you ending in.

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1530****387: 371387 I want to speak on item this team.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay well go ahead and make your comment.

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1530****387: Last month the dnc voted recommend to Mike on in the site in westchester by fire station fire vs to house 10 an rv dwellers now in Venice that sizes across.

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Daffodil Tyminski: So sorry i'm so sorry and maybe I can.

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Daffodil Tyminski: use which number was items.

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Nico Ruderman: on it, she speak out 15.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah sorry.

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Daffodil Tyminski: If I misheard you but we're actually talking about a different item right now, so if you could save your public comment on, we call that one.

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1530****387: You called okay.

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Daffodil Tyminski: All right, thank you Roy vanda hook.

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jim murez: Do this is item 22.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah sorry about that I didn't.

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Roy van de Hoek: hello, my name is Roy vanda hook, and can you hear me.

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Roy van de Hoek: Yes, okay so.

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Roy van de Hoek: This is interesting, I would like to know what the details are along the sidewalk for plans and ideas are there any lobbyists that have been approaching any other neighborhood Councils like for possible billboard signs or other kinds of actions.

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Roy van de Hoek: Are there.

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Roy van de Hoek: And this is just simply advisory by the two neighborhood Councils and really it's plans on what the La City Council or the mayor's office has.

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Roy van de Hoek: Ideas other departments my laws.

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jim murez: I don't understand Ali.

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jim murez: Ali just a moment.

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Daffodil Tyminski: guys.

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But.

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Roy van de Hoek: I don't see any urgency and moving forward i'd like to hear more background of different organizations concerns and have more participation, thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay ravi Singh current sorry if I somehow messed us up but let's try this again go ahead and make your comments.

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Ravi Sankaran: lows robbie's and Karen can hear me.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah yeah we got you.

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Ravi Sankaran: yeah there yeah well i'm from delray i'm the Vice President, but during every Council, so I work with matt Elsa used to be the area director for this area.

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Ravi Sankaran: And so I guess I can respond to the previous comment, nobody has approached us about any type of deal or anything like that i'm it's really just for convenience.

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Ravi Sankaran: For example, like when I was a director with del rey avenue sometimes there'd be an issue you know with the street or the sidewalk we're talking to stakeholders on one side of del rey.

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Ravi Sankaran: But the other side belongs to a different every Council so it's really just convenience even look at the map, it just goes together, and so you know just be committed to have the stakeholders, all together, so that's all i'm saying thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks so much for having.

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Daffodil Tyminski: US okay so with that we're closing public comment and let's go to board discussion.

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jim murez: So i'm mad I see your hands up we'll come back to you in a minute let's let's get some of the.

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jim murez: The other comments out, and then we can talk about it.

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jim murez: NICO I see your hand you want to go ahead.

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Nico Ruderman: yeah sure i'm.

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Nico Ruderman: Looking at the map this This makes a lot of sense but I mean I do agree with with Helen and some of the other.

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Nico Ruderman: commenters that seems very rushed that we would make a decision on this tonight with with with very little research and I guess I you know if i'm allowed to ask, am I allowed to ask questions of.

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jim murez: The present absolutely yes.

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Nico Ruderman: yeah man I you know, besides convenience and, obviously, this makes sense in the map and I understand the.

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Nico Ruderman: The idea of you know, having different neighborhood Councils on on the opposite sides of del rey what what is the motivation for for this I i'm just i'm trying to wrap my head around what the motivation and urgency is.

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Matt Wersinger: It thanks NICO I mean look the only urgency is that we are bylaws and another what April 1 I think is the deadline and I, I think we want to do it in this cycle.

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Matt Wersinger: The time to do it, it doesn't have to be this month, if you guys want to postpone i'm happy to walk the neighborhood with you, with anyone who wants to um.

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Matt Wersinger: But I think the idea would be to get this codified and and in a language that matches and that aligns.

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Matt Wersinger: Before that April 1 deadline if we choose to do it this cycle, I had approached by your Council two years ago and I didn't get this I wasn't able to get this on your agenda so that's why it's come up now versus two years ago.

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Matt Wersinger: And then the other thing that I would just notice that the language itself has to align between us and you guys if we were to proceed with us this so if.

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Matt Wersinger: If we were to do so we'd have to work with done to make sure that the exact boundary is written in the right way with the matching language again.

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Matt Wersinger: Again, the motivation is just I think it's as simple as that the specific plan which which determines how things are developed in here.

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Matt Wersinger: And the way that some of this neighborhood and these intersections and the traffic flows through here, we feel like just impacts del rey more than it does benefit necessarily it's as simple as that on our end.

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Nico Ruderman: I mean I you know personally propose that we push this a month to give us time to really think about this, I mean it it, you know, on the surface, it makes a lot of sense.

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Nico Ruderman: And yeah I mean I definitely take you up on going and walk it that makes you know makes sense to me but i'm I don't think we should be voting on this tonight.

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Nico Ruderman: that's all.

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jim murez: Thank you, Nicole, and I just want to mention about the the boundary because matt you brought it up, and it was brought up in public comment when the motion was put together to, to put it on our agenda for tonight.

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jim murez: I got some information from Ivan did the Freddie had explained to him that the boundary needed to be identical and because.

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jim murez: I was going into the hospital we couldn't quite work out all the details, last week, so we don't have exact language at this point and we would need to make the language, where it it described the.

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jim murez: difference between the two parcels so it came out exact, but it means moving the corners around and I don't have the exact language for that and we would have to work together to to get that to be correct.

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Nico Ruderman: Jim Can I make a motion to postpone this.

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jim murez: yeah why don't we go through you can but hold on one second why don't we go through the some of the other questions in case other issues come out and then.

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Nico Ruderman: And then we can.

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jim murez: push it back and i'll come back to you okay.

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jim murez: Clark go ahead.

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clark brown: Oh there's a couple questions for matt matt do, are there any approved specific plans or other plans which place dark blue script script in del rey rather than Venice that's one question.

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Matt Wersinger: I know it's not specifically written as del rey but, again, the specific plan trump's neighborhood Councils and crosses the border.

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clark brown: Right, but in the specific plan is the dark blue strip included in delray.

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Matt Wersinger: The specific plan doesn't make mention of neighborhood Councils.

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Matt Wersinger: or or neighborhood Council boundaries.

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clark brown: The second question is, do you know if the businesses on the blue strip all have.

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clark brown: Lincoln boulevard rather than del rey addresses.

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Matt Wersinger: that's a good question, I think a lot of them do I know a lot of the business owners there i've met with them they've actually called called us at times when they've had things I want to discuss.

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Matt Wersinger: But that's a good question I don't know the answer that you're mostly on Lincoln though oh.

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clark brown: that's a common, it seems to me that there's an advantage to having both sides of the street within the same neighborhood Council district on a major street like like Lincoln.

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Matt Wersinger: yeah, I suppose, but if you look south of maxell all the way down.

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Matt Wersinger: all the way down link into the wetlands we we sweet the borders split it just happens to be the the dividing line between the neighborhood Councils and between us and the Marina Lincoln is the generally a general boundary there as it stands right now.

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clark brown: Right very much.

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jim murez: Okay, thank you i'm Robert you have your hand up.

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robertthibodeau: First of all, Venice is had a long history of having the property taken away, and if you.

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robertthibodeau: Look at the old history books in the maps and Venice the boundaries used to be much larger than they are right now, they extended way down Venice boulevard you know well into in past what mar vista is.

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robertthibodeau: And I don't know why, but to sort of just i'm sure you know, whatever his name is matt this isn't like personal to him, but.

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robertthibodeau: You just want like a chunk chunk of Venice it doesn't and why I mean.

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robertthibodeau: It so that you can have your half of the street when it's been us, on the other half, but the rest of Lincoln all the way up.

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robertthibodeau: To whatever it is Commonwealth incident, you know we're borders Santa Monica that's all Venice both sides, so you can create like Clark was saying a section where you've got, why not just keep it clean were thinking Lincoln boulevard is Venice both ways.

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robertthibodeau: I don't see why we would give give up part of Venice to del rey I love del rey but you know i'm not asking you for free stuff you know why are you asking us for free stuff just doesn't.

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robertthibodeau: I don't think it's a good policy, just to be giving stuff away.

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robertthibodeau: that's it.

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jim murez: Thank you, Robert alley go ahead, please.

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Alley Bean: Well yeah now that Robert just made that comment, I think, then it's becoming obvious maybe that we should postponed, but I was just going to.

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Alley Bean: echo what NICO said, the reason I was calling Evelyn i'm sorry I got on I didn't mute myself.

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Alley Bean: was because I didn't understand that the bylaws that that we you know the Venice community and our Council bylaws would have to be changed in order to do this and.

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Alley Bean: So both Liz and Helen brought up that point and it's i'm new so I don't really understand the bylaws that well.

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Alley Bean: And I if it's something there, and there was no reason that matt said that we shouldn't postpone I think It just seems to need discussion and then, then we can do it and everybody's on one accord.

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jim murez: So you do have any direct questions about about what ask.

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Alley Bean: A question i'm just making a comment.

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jim murez: Okay, thank you, oh.

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jim murez: Look.

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see me your hands up.

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Sima Kostovetsky: You guys kind of answered it, I was just wondering what the history of this was matt you sort of touched upon it, but i'm just wondering how it came up and how we got involved, and all that good stuff was that, since the redistricting.

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Sima Kostovetsky: And I too would urge us to wait, since there seems to be some some issue but matt can you touch and Jim you as well, can you guys touch upon the history of this.

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Matt Wersinger: yeah it's my fault we're here tonight to be quite honest, because.

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Sima Kostovetsky: With all due respect.

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Matt Wersinger: As as the former land use chair, you know I spent a lot of time and I lived on glencoe so I spent a lot of time looking at this area and looking at specific plan so it's again.

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Matt Wersinger: happy to address anything with you guys, if you do choose postpone between now and next month and answer any further questions you guys have but it's.

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Matt Wersinger: It was, it was a it was something that we cooked up in delray just as an idea and Jim was kind enough to generalize it so that's why we're here tonight by me.

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jim murez: Not a problem.

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jim murez: You get shot down you get shot down it's just the way it works, but we're not going to do that tonight, but let's Andre go ahead.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Oh yeah I am I tend to agree with Robert I don't know why this should be given up by Venice and also, I believe there's no residential on that side of delray avenue right it's just businesses Is that correct matt.

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Matt Wersinger: they currently are yeah the group this specific plan does allow for residential.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Oh it's allowing for that okay.

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Sima Kostovetsky: You guys just went to costco and your side, I get it.

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Matt Wersinger: that's culver city, we have a will be going to culver City Council next week with something else.

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jim murez: Okay.

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jim murez: um were you done yeah okay Elizabeth you have your hand up.

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Elizabeth Clay: So does that mean you were shooting for.

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jim murez: Sorry.

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Elizabeth Clay: You call me.

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jim murez: Yes, Elizabeth.

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Elizabeth Clay: Yes, Sir, I had my volume down.

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Elizabeth Clay: So I don't need to postpone it, this this phone I think pretty firmly.

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Elizabeth Clay: I don't see a compelling argument to really mix up boundaries at this point if you give it up, you can come back and ask for back in a few years is very final decision and.

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Elizabeth Clay: I just I was listening that really carefully I couldn't figure out a really super compelling reason in there that Venice would complicate the entire situation to do this, I don't know if there's something more, you want to add.

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Elizabeth Clay: beyond what was you know, there would say my mind, but I don't think that we need to push to another meeting just my thoughts.

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Elizabeth Clay: Thanks.

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jim murez: Okay i'm gonna do i'm going to try and get up a map, just so we can look at this a little bit farther out but definitely you had your hand up also.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I did so, I just have two questions for matt one, and I think someone alluded to this but I don't know that I know the answer which is.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Have you been in contact with the businesses that are affected or the property owners are affected, and what did they think and to have you been in contact with the Council office and have they weighed in at all.

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Matt Wersinger: I haven't been in contact with Council I don't know that they would have an opinion this is.

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Matt Wersinger: This is del rey Venice and done, I don't I don't know that there's a role for the Council office in this unless you guys think there is i'd be happy to reach out I just don't see a reason to.

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Matt Wersinger: Businesses again over the years, because the specific plan lives, mostly in delray we've had conversations about what the specific plan is what the future of it is what it holds and how the services.

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Matt Wersinger: currently sit and I think that that's where that's where again we've we've gotten to know some there's there's some common developers across both.

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Matt Wersinger: And I think that that's just you and a lot of people come to us because they assume that they're within del rey and because they're in the specific plan and know that we have a pretty vested interest in how that specific plan functions and what its future is going to be okay.

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Daffodil Tyminski: So, I guess, my question was more, though, are they for it are they against it like what.

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Matt Wersinger: Those property owners thing I think it was more when when I say oh you guys actually have to go to Venice, if you want to do anything they say Oh well, we didn't even know that, so I don't know that there's been a real, specific like hey, we want a.

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Matt Wersinger: Real I don't even know that they would care that much to be quite frank, but I think it's just again, you talk to people who are there and they're surprised to know that, because that specific plan envelops under they're not part of.

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Matt Wersinger: Our side of the border, and I think people are surprised that del rey haven't you.

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Matt Wersinger: Is the border like, why is that the border, we talked about maybe Lincoln being more fitting or del rey more fitting and.

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Matt Wersinger: whether all of Lincoln or not, but why is delray avenue split when you have the same specific plan and same development on either side of that, so I think that's just something that people have have talked about on our side of the border, at least.

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Matt Wersinger: Okay.

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jim murez: So let's see do we have more hands up.

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jim murez: cj yours is going to be I guess the left hand know Melissa to pay so.

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CJ Cole: The only thing I want to do is, I want to, because this was not available when rules and selections match.

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CJ Cole: um but what Robert did say is true going all the way up the rest of Lincoln boulevard through vast that strip is part of.

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CJ Cole: Our our neighborhood Council on and I just really think that we have to that we really want that strip is there, I think, for a reason it was.

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CJ Cole: You know carved out and made part of Venice, and I think you know that's The thing that I wouldn't want to see as I certainly wouldn't want to see a project across from access, like the one across from XL going in there, frankly.

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CJ Cole: Those great big huge things so um I think I would want to postpone it right now, because I didn't realize that I thought it was just that one little section like jogged but it doesn't it doesn't jog at all going north.

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jim murez: Okay, thank you cj Melissa you have your hand up.

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melissa diner : Oh yeah I was just curious if Freddie could answer the question if it hasn't been answered yet if.

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melissa diner : There are any neighborhood Councils, where there are areas where people are allowed to vote under more than one neighborhood Council.

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melissa diner : Because you know, like we have other voting that allows people to vote wherever they want and claim they're.

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melissa diner : considered like claim that they're stakeholder so i'm just wondering if how big of a deal, this is, if this is things like does it come up or both people want to claim something, and if there's any areas where they've let people vote in both areas like this.

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jim murez: ready, are you there, do you have an answer for.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Melissa that's like that's a great question.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): um so.

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01:17:18.840 --> 01:17:25.020
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Okay, so welcome, and thank you for screen, sharing good, this is the most part, so at least everyone can see the strip of.

673
01:17:26.280 --> 01:17:42.810
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): property that would be considered up for giving that's Venice is going to be giving up to at least it's voted for would be giving up to del rey neighborhood Council now i've been in communication with my directors and with.

674
01:17:44.160 --> 01:17:52.500
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): My general manager just to give me a little bit more of an idea, because there is a 2011 form that was given to me by the former.

675
01:17:53.250 --> 01:18:04.350
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): No longer director, but Mike fun when neighbor Council wanted to do a boundary adjustment and there's this forum, called the neighborhood Council petition for boundary adjustment.

676
01:18:05.310 --> 01:18:16.710
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): which would have to be completed by both neighborhood Councils and submitted at the same time, with the exact same language of the amended bylaws in their boundaries on the section that they are going to be changing.

677
01:18:17.910 --> 01:18:35.430
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Specifically, and then we bring it up to once that submitted by both neighborhood Councils to the department that would then be brought to the board of neighborhood Commissioners on to evaluate and make a determination on those changes of the of the.

678
01:18:36.600 --> 01:18:42.420
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): bylaws itself, and both bylaws and to see those petitions moving forward.

679
01:18:43.680 --> 01:18:44.700
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): i'm just trying to.

680
01:18:45.750 --> 01:18:59.490
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): See if if that document that I have from 2011 is still applicable today and that's what i'm trying to clarify right now what i'm to your question, Melissa about stakeholders.

681
01:19:01.020 --> 01:19:02.220
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): I to my understanding.

682
01:19:04.110 --> 01:19:13.020
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): I don't know if there's ever been a situation where you can vote on both sides, because this is unique as to.

683
01:19:14.340 --> 01:19:22.590
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): The boards of the neighborhood Councils, having done the necessary outreach with the area that they're trying to annex and and release.

684
01:19:23.730 --> 01:19:35.490
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): So that's going to be kind of the tricky part where i'm gonna have to follow up with the current Director that's managing a lot of the policy aspects which is director Thompson.

685
01:19:36.630 --> 01:19:38.910
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): And if I can get more clarity from him.

686
01:19:40.590 --> 01:19:42.960
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Then I can answer it with more complete.

687
01:19:43.560 --> 01:19:51.750
melissa diner : I guess my point, then, is just like I don't care if they can vote in both, and I think, maybe that would be a concession to other people that have raised concerns.

688
01:19:52.200 --> 01:20:00.750
melissa diner : That they don't want it to be taken away, but I personally would be fine with them as long as they're able to vote in both if that's a concession to del rey.

689
01:20:03.210 --> 01:20:07.680
jim murez: Okay, thank you, Melissa um I want to clarify one thing before we.

690
01:20:09.540 --> 01:20:11.760
jim murez: make a motion to postpone this.

691
01:20:13.110 --> 01:20:16.290
jim murez: There was a comment made earlier about.

692
01:20:17.790 --> 01:20:20.760
jim murez: It being a continuous parcel of land.

693
01:20:22.110 --> 01:20:32.250
jim murez: The strip that they're talking about and that's why I brought this map up because I wanted to confirm for myself so here is mixed seller, right here i'm moving my cursor on maxell that's this.

694
01:20:33.360 --> 01:20:42.480
jim murez: Where this this street is here here's del rey and and the Venice neighborhood Council comes all the way down here to this tip.

695
01:20:43.110 --> 01:20:53.940
jim murez: This over here, is where the the the three tall towers are so we actually continue farther South all the way to where the end of the cross from the end of the 90 freeway.

696
01:20:55.260 --> 01:21:04.410
jim murez: So I just want to be clear that, right now, what we have is, we have a jog, so to speak, down del rey.

697
01:21:05.850 --> 01:21:14.610
jim murez: Let me zoom back out so everybody can see what i'm referring to, so we kind of come up here with this pink strip appear along.

698
01:21:15.570 --> 01:21:26.400
jim murez: This this walnut street here and continue down here, so what we would be talking about would be moving out to the Center line here and then coming straight down all the way, rather than having.

699
01:21:27.330 --> 01:21:35.700
jim murez: Continuing down walnut then down del rey then out mech Salah and then down Lincoln, so it is a slight bit of a change it's it is.

700
01:21:36.540 --> 01:21:48.810
jim murez: The continuation is really whether or not we think that this strip of industrial and the blue portion is all industrial the pink is is owned see to I believe.

701
01:21:49.650 --> 01:21:58.560
jim murez: i'd have to look at the legend, but I think that that's correct I don't think it's the other way around math you know it's blue I think blue is fluid manufacturing, I think.

702
01:21:58.590 --> 01:22:02.580
Matt Wersinger: yeah but, again, this this specific plan trumps any of that zoning.

703
01:22:02.790 --> 01:22:04.260
Matt Wersinger: So where it stands.

704
01:22:04.740 --> 01:22:11.970
jim murez: Okay, so everybody sees this map it's been recorded on the video, we can talk more about it at another time.

705
01:22:13.020 --> 01:22:18.210
jim murez: Actually, I want to go back to the agenda for a minute.

706
01:22:19.980 --> 01:22:26.280
jim murez: So we can take a vote on this give me one second share the right screen.

707
01:22:27.390 --> 01:22:27.660
jim murez: there.

708
01:22:28.350 --> 01:22:29.940
Nico Ruderman: Sir, can I make a motion to postpone it.

709
01:22:30.120 --> 01:22:31.860
jim murez: yeah you can make a motion to postpone it.

710
01:22:33.420 --> 01:22:33.750
Nico Ruderman: on us.

711
01:22:34.020 --> 01:22:36.720
jim murez: So we still have to take a vote on that so let.

712
01:22:38.880 --> 01:22:40.200
jim murez: me, let me, let me.

713
01:22:41.520 --> 01:22:45.840
jim murez: offer a vote and then we'll make an alternate and will say postpone.

714
01:22:50.280 --> 01:22:51.240
jim murez: postpone.

715
01:22:51.450 --> 01:22:58.080
Nico Ruderman: That one last question what's what's the I mean if if we postpone it, one month if we postpone it two months is that too late, like what's our cutoff point well.

716
01:22:58.080 --> 01:23:00.390
jim murez: yeah no, we have to postpone it to to.

717
01:23:01.320 --> 01:23:03.570
jim murez: The what would that be the March meeting.

718
01:23:09.240 --> 01:23:10.650
Daffodil Tyminski: By rules and selections.

719
01:23:12.030 --> 01:23:14.220
jim murez: Rules and selections is already heard it.

720
01:23:15.570 --> 01:23:22.560
jim murez: So I guess we'll take it back to rules and selections and let them work out whatever details, we want to make.

721
01:23:24.960 --> 01:23:25.440
melissa diner : It can I.

722
01:23:25.470 --> 01:23:27.150
melissa diner : Can I can ask a question.

723
01:23:27.360 --> 01:23:31.020
jim murez: Excuse me for just one second we can't take it out past.

724
01:23:32.190 --> 01:23:43.980
jim murez: march unless we want to have a special meeting in March, because the deadline is April 1 to be able to get the bylaw amendments in so actually in March.

725
01:23:44.220 --> 01:23:52.650
jim murez: Any other bylaws adjustments that we will be making will be taken up in our March meeting, and they will also be taken up ahead of time.

726
01:23:53.190 --> 01:24:08.580
jim murez: For anybody that wants to actually understand what's going on with these various motions and participate in in discussing them in the rules and selection committee Melissa before you speak NICO made a motion to postpone it'll be to the March meeting, we need a second for that.

727
01:24:09.300 --> 01:24:09.780
Ivan: Jim.

728
01:24:10.200 --> 01:24:11.010
Ivan: I second them.

729
01:24:11.550 --> 01:24:13.020
Alley Bean: Who said that I.

730
01:24:13.200 --> 01:24:14.970
Mike Bravo: Like second my brother.

731
01:24:15.000 --> 01:24:16.440
jim murez: Mike bravo okay.

732
01:24:16.950 --> 01:24:18.150
Ivan: Jim can you hear me.

733
01:24:18.300 --> 01:24:26.400
jim murez: yeah I can hear you just just a minute Okay, now we have a motion and a second and now our parliamentarian, would like to interrupt us and speak.

734
01:24:26.550 --> 01:24:29.760
Ivan: Yes, okay NICO.

735
01:24:31.020 --> 01:24:39.330
Ivan: Motion or post phone has to have a date on it, so how long do you want to postpone it for what do you want the motion to read.

736
01:24:40.650 --> 01:24:49.260
Nico Ruderman: A lot postpone it to march but but Jim are we sending this back to rules is that make more sense, or should we just postpone it to the next.

737
01:24:50.400 --> 01:24:51.030
Nico Ruderman: gen meeting.

738
01:24:51.510 --> 01:25:00.450
jim murez: Well it'll it'll end up on the market, I mean if we wanted to have discussion of it, with more than what would be.

739
01:25:01.950 --> 01:25:11.940
jim murez: The quorum, we would have to be able to, in other words if more people want to get involved in it, we have to do it in the form of a brown active meeting so we would have to take it back to committee.

740
01:25:12.750 --> 01:25:13.530
Nico Ruderman: I I.

741
01:25:13.620 --> 01:25:19.680
Nico Ruderman: yeah i'm gonna make a motion to send it back to committee, I think this needs more discussion and just another meeting okay.

742
01:25:19.740 --> 01:25:27.090
jim murez: And that will be the march 15 so we'll postpone it to the march 15 board meeting so i've been gets a date.

743
01:25:27.090 --> 01:25:30.420
jim murez: Okay, and and I will add to that.

744
01:25:32.490 --> 01:25:33.420
jim murez: return.

745
01:25:35.430 --> 01:25:36.300
jim murez: To rules.

746
01:25:38.880 --> 01:25:39.270
jim murez: Okay.

747
01:25:40.950 --> 01:25:42.300
jim murez: Mike are you okay without.

748
01:25:42.660 --> 01:25:44.100
jim murez: Yes, okay great.

749
01:25:45.780 --> 01:25:47.490
jim murez: let's take a vote on that now.

750
01:25:49.380 --> 01:25:50.940
jim murez: i'm daffodil, how do you vote.

751
01:25:51.270 --> 01:25:51.810
Yes.

752
01:25:54.420 --> 01:25:55.110
jim murez: Melissa.

753
01:25:55.500 --> 01:25:55.890
No.

754
01:25:59.070 --> 01:25:59.460
Andrea Boccaletti: No.

755
01:26:01.320 --> 01:26:01.830
jim murez: vicki.

756
01:26:03.030 --> 01:26:03.540
Vicki Halliday: know.

757
01:26:05.520 --> 01:26:06.120
jim murez: Bruno.

758
01:26:10.800 --> 01:26:11.790
Bruno Hernandez: sorry about that no.

759
01:26:13.860 --> 01:26:14.370
jim murez: seema.

760
01:26:18.150 --> 01:26:22.350
Sima Kostovetsky: Can you clarify is this nico's motion or the original motion.

761
01:26:22.620 --> 01:26:35.670
jim murez: This is the alternate mode, this is, this is an alternate motion to postpone it until the march 15 meeting, during which time it's going to return to rules to be able to be further discussed.

762
01:26:35.850 --> 01:26:39.240
Vicki Halliday: Then I do I get changed mine Jim vicki can get to yes.

763
01:26:39.720 --> 01:26:41.040
jim murez: Oh i'm sorry okay.

764
01:26:42.810 --> 01:26:43.920
jim murez: and see my it's up to you.

765
01:26:44.100 --> 01:26:44.700
Yes.

766
01:26:46.350 --> 01:26:47.850
jim murez: i'm NICO.

767
01:26:49.710 --> 01:26:50.160
Nico Ruderman: Oh yes.

768
01:26:51.030 --> 01:26:52.080
jim murez: Jim Rom.

769
01:26:52.830 --> 01:26:53.610
Yes.

770
01:26:55.320 --> 01:26:56.460
jim murez: Your throat their alley.

771
01:26:57.030 --> 01:26:57.600
Yes.

772
01:26:58.860 --> 01:26:59.340
jim murez: hi.

773
01:27:07.440 --> 01:27:08.460
jim murez: Okay, are you with us.

774
01:27:09.900 --> 01:27:10.650
jim murez: i'll come back.

775
01:27:13.110 --> 01:27:15.240
Soledad Ursua: down to the panelists she says she's on.

776
01:27:15.720 --> 01:27:19.320
jim murez: Okay, somebody want to promote her daffodil can you do that might.

777
01:27:19.860 --> 01:27:20.310
Daffodil Tyminski: Be that.

778
01:27:21.780 --> 01:27:22.380
jim murez: How do you vote.

779
01:27:22.740 --> 01:27:23.850
Mike Bravo: Yes, yes.

780
01:27:24.330 --> 01:27:25.800
jim murez: Thank you so dad, how do you vote.

781
01:27:26.220 --> 01:27:26.700
Yes.

782
01:27:28.500 --> 01:27:29.100
jim murez: cj.

783
01:27:32.070 --> 01:27:32.670
jim murez: cj.

784
01:27:37.230 --> 01:27:38.370
jim murez: Thank you Oliver.

785
01:27:38.730 --> 01:27:39.000
Yes.

786
01:27:40.380 --> 01:27:40.950
jim murez: Elizabeth.

787
01:27:42.450 --> 01:27:42.870
Elizabeth Clay: know.

788
01:27:45.390 --> 01:27:46.230
jim murez: Robert tippett oh.

789
01:27:47.370 --> 01:27:47.940
robertthibodeau: Yes.

790
01:27:50.370 --> 01:27:50.760
clark brown: Yes.

791
01:27:54.270 --> 01:27:55.110
Chie Lunn: I am a yes.

792
01:27:56.340 --> 01:28:04.980
jim murez: Okay, I was just going to come back to you you're a yes and i'm a yes and did I miss anybody I don't think, so I think that's all of them.

793
01:28:06.330 --> 01:28:10.080
jim murez: I think we got it okay so we're going to take it back to committee.

794
01:28:18.570 --> 01:28:19.410
jim murez: This item.

795
01:28:23.040 --> 01:28:23.730
That means is.

796
01:28:24.900 --> 01:28:29.370
jim murez: i'm stamp this, so we have a record of what we did what we did.

797
01:28:30.630 --> 01:28:31.620
jim murez: And let's move on.

798
01:28:33.030 --> 01:28:39.660
jim murez: Okay matt, thank you for coming we'll reach out to you and let you know when we're going to be having our.

799
01:28:42.930 --> 01:28:49.350
jim murez: Our meeting in rules and selections and when we want to take a walk with you and take a look at the site.

800
01:28:51.780 --> 01:28:56.880
jim murez: Okay, so now we are on to Item number eight committee and Chair reports.

801
01:28:59.250 --> 01:29:00.990
jim murez: we're running a little bit behind.

802
01:29:01.050 --> 01:29:04.080
jim murez: If we want to make reports.

803
01:29:06.270 --> 01:29:07.740
jim murez: Lucy your hands up but I.

804
01:29:07.830 --> 01:29:10.440
jim murez: it's not time for you to talk, you have to wait for the item.

805
01:29:11.820 --> 01:29:23.520
jim murez: i'm budget and finance, this is, this is a anything in the future, this has nothing to do with the presence stuff we'll get to the present stuff in a minute so I don't think you have any.

806
01:29:23.910 --> 01:29:24.120
know.

807
01:29:25.200 --> 01:29:31.440
jim murez: Land you some planning we don't have any neighborhoods do you have anything to report that's coming up in the near future that we don't know about otherwise.

808
01:29:31.740 --> 01:29:38.880
Daffodil Tyminski: um you know Yolanda Gonzalez is on from the neighborhood Committee, and she may have something she wants to add Yolanda are you.

809
01:29:39.060 --> 01:29:41.730
jim murez: Excuse me, can she do that during public comment.

810
01:29:44.220 --> 01:29:46.590
Daffodil Tyminski: um I suppose you could.

811
01:29:46.770 --> 01:29:51.600
jim murez: Great this is really just for you, if you had if you had something special that you need to do, inform the neighborhood about.

812
01:29:52.110 --> 01:29:54.930
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so this is what i'd like to inform the neighborhood of.

813
01:29:55.830 --> 01:30:06.510
Daffodil Tyminski: One thing we addressed in our last neighborhood committee meeting was the disrepair of Venice sidewalks there seems to be some interest in some folks downtown in actually helping us with our sidewalks.

814
01:30:06.930 --> 01:30:18.150
Daffodil Tyminski: So I would encourage everyone to reach out and your immediate neighborhood particularly bad sidewalks around, and you can document them take photos and email them to me.

815
01:30:18.690 --> 01:30:26.370
Daffodil Tyminski: And we're going to try to start getting something done about the broken and sort of you know crumbling sidewalks in Venice.

816
01:30:27.420 --> 01:30:30.840
jim murez: Great that sounds great so all those trees that were planted a few years ago.

817
01:30:31.050 --> 01:30:32.850
Daffodil Tyminski: I know I wonder who is responsible for that.

818
01:30:33.360 --> 01:30:33.960
jim murez: I want to.

819
01:30:35.280 --> 01:30:37.500
jim murez: ocean for a walk is there anything urgent going on.

820
01:30:40.980 --> 01:30:48.150
jim murez: Okay, I guess, not I hope not outreach you have anything special you want to tell us about not it has nothing to do with.

821
01:30:49.920 --> 01:30:51.060
jim murez: With the.

822
01:30:52.410 --> 01:30:53.730
jim murez: emergency preparedness.

823
01:30:56.070 --> 01:30:58.320
Jim Robb: Nothing okay Jim.

824
01:30:58.710 --> 01:31:07.920
Jim Robb: Yes, it's Jim rob I said, I just want to say we've had a couple meetings with a company called head maze jim's familiar with this.

825
01:31:09.390 --> 01:31:13.470
Jim Robb: They do stuff at burning man, they want to do a.

826
01:31:14.490 --> 01:31:25.080
Jim Robb: interactive for story high head with the interactive social public all kinds of different stuff they're targeted in the ocean front walk.

827
01:31:25.770 --> 01:31:37.890
Jim Robb: But we're hoping to find other alternatives and we're trying to get this into a meeting with the regular dnc to get your guys's input they're willing to come with a lot of money it'll be a semi permanent.

828
01:31:39.090 --> 01:31:48.600
Jim Robb: display for probably four to five years and we need some input and there could be a good place for it to draw people in so.

829
01:31:49.680 --> 01:31:55.380
jim murez: Thank you yeah they should go back anybody wants to see what they're talking about it's a four story building in the middle of Windward.

830
01:31:56.130 --> 01:32:10.470
jim murez: If they want, if they want to take a look at it in the park there there's a video that was made and and they can go look at it there until it's ready to come to the board we're not going to address it, thank you, Jim rules and selections anything special arts committee anything special.

831
01:32:11.190 --> 01:32:24.840
Oliver Fries: pretty much everything we've been talking about we're working on the bylaws with the bylaws Task Force once we're done with that it goes to committee and then we're sending it to the whole board to review before the next meeting so mortar report coming soon.

832
01:32:25.350 --> 01:32:30.570
jim murez: Great Thank you everybody should be watching for those meetings it's very important to be informed before it gets to the board.

833
01:32:31.710 --> 01:32:35.190
jim murez: Bruno nothing special Okay, I saw you shake your head.

834
01:32:36.360 --> 01:32:38.310
jim murez: Elizabeth you have your hand up you're not a committee.

835
01:32:38.910 --> 01:32:41.340
Elizabeth Clay: Or you can I sit, a question for death it's it's.

836
01:32:41.340 --> 01:32:42.000
Elizabeth Clay: Not too late.

837
01:32:44.100 --> 01:32:45.030
jim murez: Okay, go for it.

838
01:32:45.420 --> 01:32:48.990
Elizabeth Clay: I just wanted to know when we're looking at the broken sidewalk issues.

839
01:32:49.710 --> 01:33:05.010
Elizabeth Clay: Are they willing to actually remove the tree that's causing us, it would seem, there would just be a continuous cycle, like the tree keeps growing the it'll buckle again was there any discussion at all around that like is there any kind of problem forward.

840
01:33:05.100 --> 01:33:05.670
jim murez: let's let's.

841
01:33:05.760 --> 01:33:06.360
Elizabeth Clay: I guess.

842
01:33:06.600 --> 01:33:12.360
jim murez: let's let's hold that off there are solutions for that, but let's not get into a discussion about it now.

843
01:33:13.620 --> 01:33:19.470
jim murez: That we can do that in committee, it could also go into parking and transportation and no Roberts working on it as well.

844
01:33:21.390 --> 01:33:22.050
Elizabeth Clay: She just.

845
01:33:22.110 --> 01:33:30.000
Elizabeth Clay: Answer whether it's related to a tree that's buckling that it's worth taking the photo because i'll go get some.

846
01:33:30.150 --> 01:33:33.630
Daffodil Tyminski: It is worth taking all the photos the city has committed to nothing.

847
01:33:34.350 --> 01:33:49.080
Daffodil Tyminski: And having spoken to various departments, no one will actually agree to do anything that they're saying that will do in the La times, so I would actually just encourage everyone to take as many photos as possible and, regardless of the cause, try to get them fixed.

848
01:33:49.590 --> 01:33:50.550
Elizabeth Clay: yeah thanks.

849
01:33:51.210 --> 01:33:51.660
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you.

850
01:33:53.640 --> 01:33:58.980
jim murez: um if they input them into the agenda request system it'll catalog them.

851
01:34:01.410 --> 01:34:04.050
jim murez: Community resiliency committee.

852
01:34:05.250 --> 01:34:15.180
Keith Harrison: Keith has just just wanted to encourage everybody to participate in the upcoming town hall, and please spread the word to your constituents, thank you.

853
01:34:15.600 --> 01:34:16.290
jim murez: Thank you.

854
01:34:17.430 --> 01:34:19.260
jim murez: vicki do you have anything to the homeless committee.

855
01:34:19.620 --> 01:34:20.460
Vicki Halliday: No, we don't.

856
01:34:20.790 --> 01:34:22.890
jim murez: Know okay parking and transportation Robert.

857
01:34:25.200 --> 01:34:32.370
robertthibodeau: Regarding the sidewalks again I think we've got a representative from RON galperin 's office a controller.

858
01:34:33.420 --> 01:34:46.380
robertthibodeau: To talk about funding for that stuff coming to the next PTC meeting not absolutely confirmed, but i've been back and forth with him so maybe i'll have more information for everybody next month.

859
01:34:47.460 --> 01:34:57.570
robertthibodeau: And then the biggie that happened last month, was the Lincoln fast forward speaking of Lincoln boulevard which we just were and.

860
01:34:58.860 --> 01:35:09.510
robertthibodeau: Along with some much needed safety changes having to do with the crosswalks and crosswalk improvements, especially in the area around supper.

861
01:35:11.430 --> 01:35:13.110
robertthibodeau: But up and down a bit.

862
01:35:14.820 --> 01:35:30.150
robertthibodeau: They have sort of unanimously decided that they're going to add a northbound bus only lane from 79 in the morning to complement their South only bus lane that we already knew about running.

863
01:35:31.650 --> 01:35:41.700
robertthibodeau: from four to seven in the afternoon going southerly so that was sort of a big change that dropped on us and I will keep.

864
01:35:42.720 --> 01:35:49.500
robertthibodeau: Everybody updated on what's going on with the link and fast forward, I do believe it will happen fairly soon possibly this fall.

865
01:35:50.070 --> 01:35:56.880
jim murez: Robert, let me just ask you one quick question about that were you going to be able to get them to come and make a presentation, the parking and transportation committee.

866
01:35:57.060 --> 01:35:57.570
robertthibodeau: So i'm going to.

867
01:35:57.660 --> 01:36:12.960
robertthibodeau: try and get them to come back and I believe that the last presentation in if if I can't get them to come back and talk to us again i'm going to at least publish their last meeting so people were interested have businesses are live near Lincoln.

868
01:36:13.050 --> 01:36:18.540
robertthibodeau: Right and would be impacted by this can pull up the videos of the potential plants.

869
01:36:18.780 --> 01:36:23.760
jim murez: yeah so they did a video when they held the meeting that you can get your hands on that would be great if we could get it posted.

870
01:36:24.840 --> 01:36:36.240
robertthibodeau: Yes, we are trying to on our end just so people know we are trying to squeeze out of them some aesthetic improvements for the loss of our parking.

871
01:36:37.560 --> 01:36:38.880
robertthibodeau: During certain hours.

872
01:36:40.080 --> 01:36:50.640
robertthibodeau: So we are trying to get them to do some upgrades and beautification as long as you're doing the rest of this work, which will include modifications to the lanes and.

873
01:36:51.660 --> 01:37:07.590
robertthibodeau: Some closures and repaving and all that stuff so we're trying to get them to do aesthetic improvements and so again if we're interested in that some people are some people aren't you're welcome to come to our meetings you're welcome to contact me via my dnc email.

874
01:37:08.760 --> 01:37:15.870
jim murez: And and that's a perfect transition to the arbor committee, who is all about trees in our Community is Isabel here.

875
01:37:16.530 --> 01:37:18.870
Daffodil Tyminski: Isabel is here, and she should be able to talk.

876
01:37:21.660 --> 01:37:23.760
Isabelle Duvivier: Thank you, can I share my screen.

877
01:37:24.420 --> 01:37:25.050
sure.

878
01:37:26.580 --> 01:37:27.750
jim murez: If you're a panelist you can.

879
01:37:28.770 --> 01:37:29.700
Isabelle Duvivier: i'm not yeah.

880
01:37:31.980 --> 01:37:35.910
Isabelle Duvivier: Then I don't have to but Oh, here we go something's happening.

881
01:37:37.710 --> 01:37:48.480
Isabelle Duvivier: And by the way, I apologize, I thought you guys started at seven so i'm late, but I see the committee's are going later now than usual, I still can't share.

882
01:37:49.080 --> 01:37:49.980
Isabelle Duvivier: Well i'm.

883
01:37:50.070 --> 01:37:53.220
jim murez: sharing is available to all participants.

884
01:37:54.630 --> 01:37:57.690
Isabelle Duvivier: don't just say yeah i'm not a panelist yeah.

885
01:37:57.720 --> 01:38:02.820
jim murez: it's down at the bottom you're not a panelist oh that's a different story, let me see.

886
01:38:02.940 --> 01:38:07.860
Isabelle Duvivier: Why am I am I do this, a lot I don't see there's an option here.

887
01:38:08.280 --> 01:38:09.690
jim murez: daffodil is she a panelist.

888
01:38:13.770 --> 01:38:18.000
Isabelle Duvivier: And I heard you guys talking about the sidewalk repair program so i'm sorry I missed that I.

889
01:38:19.650 --> 01:38:27.870
Isabelle Duvivier: I was out in the other room anyway, I can give my report without sharing, I wanted to share some cool photos and some of the work we're doing and some images of.

890
01:38:29.370 --> 01:38:34.950
Isabelle Duvivier: of some of the policy decisions were making that we can work on that next week.

891
01:38:36.000 --> 01:38:39.840
Isabelle Duvivier: So, shall I just start my report since nobody seems to be able to.

892
01:38:40.440 --> 01:38:40.620
Isabelle Duvivier: me.

893
01:38:40.680 --> 01:38:52.380
jim murez: I think I have to take you out there, did you just change, I think I would have to take you out remove permission to talk and then promote you to be a panelist hang on one second is there, another way I can do it.

894
01:38:53.220 --> 01:38:57.240
jim murez: Is you've been doing a lot of great work and I guess, if you have some good photos.

895
01:39:00.870 --> 01:39:04.080
jim murez: yeah you're in the attendees, how can I do this you're more.

896
01:39:05.130 --> 01:39:05.760
Here we go.

897
01:39:09.030 --> 01:39:09.990
jim murez: you're going to rejoin.

898
01:39:12.600 --> 01:39:15.450
jim murez: There you go now, you can promote your pictures.

899
01:39:16.920 --> 01:39:18.630
jim murez: Go ahead now, you should be able to share.

900
01:39:20.760 --> 01:39:21.630
jim murez: And you gotta unmute.

901
01:39:26.820 --> 01:39:27.870
jim murez: unmute Isabel.

902
01:39:34.230 --> 01:39:35.460
jim murez: Isabel you have to unmute.

903
01:39:35.490 --> 01:39:38.760
Isabelle Duvivier: There you go before you share that's the track okay.

904
01:39:39.900 --> 01:39:40.740
Isabelle Duvivier: Here we go.

905
01:39:43.320 --> 01:39:46.950
Isabelle Duvivier: Share Okay, can you guys see my screen.

906
01:39:47.790 --> 01:39:48.570
jim murez: There, yes.

907
01:39:49.260 --> 01:39:54.840
Isabelle Duvivier: Okay, great i'm going to the beginning, so the gym this is for you.

908
01:39:56.910 --> 01:40:03.540
Isabelle Duvivier: So we've been doing a lot of work, a couple weekends ago we worked at the Venice farmers market we planted some trees.

909
01:40:03.930 --> 01:40:13.080
Isabelle Duvivier: Some poppies we did a lot of mulching it was exhausting we had a giant pile of malt and Jim came to the rescue with his little track his giant truck.

910
01:40:13.380 --> 01:40:23.250
Isabelle Duvivier: We were able to move the mulch around we're not all olds, there are a lot of young people I work with the Venice arbor group and the and the vv g.

911
01:40:24.090 --> 01:40:35.880
Isabelle Duvivier: We planted trees over by gold's gym and we planted a bunch of white sage to compliment all the spiky stuff that other people are planting over there by goals.

912
01:40:36.660 --> 01:40:58.500
Isabelle Duvivier: And we are working with the city to plant 96 trees across CD 11 so we've got some a bunch of trees coming on appleton those are native does follows and we're working with the city to plant more native trees so there's a lot of value it's going in in West West la saw tell so i'm.

913
01:40:59.730 --> 01:41:08.280
Isabelle Duvivier: Our group is working with the other neighborhood Councils, if you can believe that we're working accounts Council districts across Council districts to plant trees.

914
01:41:09.480 --> 01:41:19.170
Isabelle Duvivier: If anyone in the audience wants to be a block leader that's how we work we try to get entire block signed up for trees so we're not planting one tree, at a time.

915
01:41:19.830 --> 01:41:26.250
Isabelle Duvivier: and the last thing I wanted to mention is that our policy group, which is the bb committee which meets the last Friday of the month.

916
01:41:26.580 --> 01:41:37.050
Isabelle Duvivier: we're looking at policies where you can build high density housing around trees, this is a project in the lower left hand corner, where you see a really large sycamore is kind of like the.

917
01:41:37.380 --> 01:41:47.430
Isabelle Duvivier: anchor of this is mixed use building we're looking at other cities, the images on the Right or from I can't remember and I can't see it anymore.

918
01:41:47.790 --> 01:42:01.590
Isabelle Duvivier: From what city is that I can't remember city, but anyway they're looking at how how streets can be redesigned so that not all the streets are cereals for vehicles, where you can have green ways.

919
01:42:02.190 --> 01:42:10.530
Isabelle Duvivier: and open space, we have a problem with our group has a problem with dense vacation without adequate open spaces.

920
01:42:11.580 --> 01:42:28.170
Isabelle Duvivier: Our next meeting is again at the farmers market is hopefully will be our last time this year we will be weeding we will be planting some oak trees and doing some channel cleanup so if anybody wants to come we'd be really happy to see you Thank you and I will stop sharing.

921
01:42:29.250 --> 01:42:38.970
jim murez: Thank you Isabel That was a great presentation and great, thank you for all your your hard effort to good work you're doing with that committee um let's see did we forget anybody.

922
01:42:40.140 --> 01:42:42.180
jim murez: We have a discussion forum Joe are you here.

923
01:42:44.520 --> 01:42:52.260
jim murez: Okay, so Presidents report, we are in a situation where we are.

924
01:42:54.030 --> 01:43:08.670
jim murez: About to elect a new Council person for our district, and I would like to create a task force and have a group of people work together, perhaps with other neighborhood Councils, perhaps with Rack.

925
01:43:09.090 --> 01:43:31.380
jim murez: and see if we couldn't have a candidate forum in April, after the candidates all qualify to be on the ballot so i'm just making that announcement if anybody has any interest in participating in that task force, please send me an email at James mirror as at Venice nc.org and we will.

926
01:43:32.760 --> 01:43:39.570
jim murez: see what we can do about putting together a committee of a group of people that want to work on putting together some sort of a forum.

927
01:43:41.640 --> 01:43:43.170
jim murez: Okay, moving right along.

928
01:43:44.700 --> 01:43:47.280
jim murez: We now want to go out and.

929
01:43:48.000 --> 01:43:49.080
Nico Ruderman: Jim cost quick question.

930
01:43:49.110 --> 01:43:50.130
jim murez: NICO what.

931
01:43:50.580 --> 01:44:00.810
Nico Ruderman: i'm sorry to interrupt what we you know, we have, we have a couple members of the West Chester neighborhood Council that are here to speak on item 15 we give them the same currency we gave the del rey neighborhood Council and i'm pumped up 15.

932
01:44:03.420 --> 01:44:09.060
jim murez: um yes absolutely I didn't even think about that you're right, we should do that.

933
01:44:10.470 --> 01:44:14.430
jim murez: So let's item 15 let's move that up.

934
01:44:16.020 --> 01:44:18.870
jim murez: Are we, here we go okay so.

935
01:44:20.700 --> 01:44:27.300
jim murez: We need to have a motion is this was a motion that NICO you brought to the floor.

936
01:44:28.530 --> 01:44:34.770
jim murez: The motion is to request reconsideration of the previous motion from last month.

937
01:44:36.360 --> 01:44:46.740
jim murez: let's get a maker on this motion and get someone to second, but let me just explain before we go into this right now all we're doing is making a motion.

938
01:44:47.100 --> 01:44:55.500
jim murez: to reconsider we're not going to talk about the merits of the item itself, this is only a motion for reconsideration.

939
01:44:55.980 --> 01:45:07.710
jim murez: We don't modify we don't do anything with the motion itself it's just an issue of reconsideration, once we have a maker, and a second, we will then take a vote of the board, we will have.

940
01:45:08.790 --> 01:45:19.920
jim murez: The Board would, to be able to approve the reconsideration would have to to have a majority of the board to agree to to reconsider it.

941
01:45:21.570 --> 01:45:34.590
jim murez: At that point, if it is decided to be reconsidered, we would then reset the item back to before it was originally voted on at last month, and we would start over from there.

942
01:45:35.370 --> 01:45:41.220
jim murez: At that point we could make an amendment to the previous motion we could send it back to committee.

943
01:45:41.550 --> 01:45:55.260
jim murez: We could vote it down, we could vote it up as it is, we could do, basically, whatever we would normally do with emotion, but right now we're just doing a motion for reconsideration and NICO was the maker of this NICO Is that correct.

944
01:45:56.100 --> 01:45:59.250
jim murez: Yes, Okay, and we need someone if they want a second this.

945
01:45:59.730 --> 01:46:01.200
Alley Bean: A second it's alley.

946
01:46:01.650 --> 01:46:03.000
jim murez: Okay Ali, thank you.

947
01:46:04.890 --> 01:46:06.600
jim murez: um and so.

948
01:46:07.650 --> 01:46:08.970
where's le le great.

949
01:46:09.990 --> 01:46:11.580
jim murez: And so, now we want to.

950
01:46:12.150 --> 01:46:12.870
Daffodil Tyminski: comment Jim.

951
01:46:13.650 --> 01:46:19.350
jim murez: i'm good question Ivan do we take public comment on the motion to reconsider.

952
01:46:24.540 --> 01:46:25.050
jim murez: Ivan.

953
01:46:28.110 --> 01:46:29.130
Ivan: Sorry, I was muted.

954
01:46:30.480 --> 01:46:39.480
Ivan: yeah I guess you can take public comment, if you want to do that, but it's gotta stick to whether or not to reconsider nothing about the motion itself.

955
01:46:39.900 --> 01:46:49.140
jim murez: Right okay so we'll just have to be very strict about that so everybody understands we're not actually talking about the motion itself we're not talking about anything having to.

956
01:46:49.500 --> 01:46:56.910
jim murez: it's written in the motion it's just the issue of reconsideration okay i'm definitely you want to go through public comment.

957
01:46:57.180 --> 01:46:57.810
Daffodil Tyminski: door.

958
01:46:57.930 --> 01:46:59.340
jim murez: We have nine raise hands.

959
01:46:59.640 --> 01:47:05.220
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, and he with Erica more and you'll want to go ahead.

960
01:47:06.690 --> 01:47:10.080
Yolanda Gonzalez: Yes, can you clarify what is the reconsideration.

961
01:47:12.570 --> 01:47:12.930
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you.

962
01:47:14.010 --> 01:47:20.280
Daffodil Tyminski: We had okay so we'll do that, and then we can well how do you want to handle that TIM.

963
01:47:20.550 --> 01:47:27.570
jim murez: yeah I let me just very quickly say, the question is whether or not we're going to reopen this item and started all over again.

964
01:47:28.170 --> 01:47:43.620
jim murez: that's the reconsideration the reconsideration is, do we want to restart this item from basically from ground zero or do we not want to and let it stand as it is that's all that's on the floor there's nothing more than that to be said about what we're doing.

965
01:47:47.010 --> 01:47:49.500
Daffodil Tyminski: phone number ending in three seven go ahead.

966
01:47:56.010 --> 01:48:04.080
1530****387: i'm Deborah Houston from westchester I support, I can 15 last month the dnc voted to recommend to Mike bonnen.

967
01:48:04.500 --> 01:48:14.820
1530****387: That the site across the street from visitation school and next Emerson school in westchester be used to house tent and rv dwellers then it's.

968
01:48:15.330 --> 01:48:31.470
1530****387: Our entire community on his plans for that site last year since December that site and off the table for bonnen lavoie and the FAA and it is not being considered by them and now going to spring sit up.

969
01:48:31.920 --> 01:48:42.480
1530****387: We are aware that there may be additional interest in Venice for land in along the westchester parkway in westchester Playa del rey.

970
01:48:43.020 --> 01:49:00.990
1530****387: We would advocate to protect that land as well, it is imperative, we believe that our communities work together to end this crisis at as a whole and not to shift homeless people from one Community to another, we ask that you.

971
01:49:03.480 --> 01:49:04.320
bring with you.

972
01:49:06.870 --> 01:49:08.970
Daffodil Tyminski: racer go.

973
01:49:13.290 --> 01:49:15.900
brycerogow: Okay Thank you so much it's great to be here with you all.

974
01:49:15.990 --> 01:49:18.900
brycerogow: And yeah many rice robo and.

975
01:49:19.320 --> 01:49:30.750
brycerogow: I just want to say i'm in a Venice resident for about 12 years and the homeless and kevin's earlier problem so i'd like to oppose the motion to reconsider.

976
01:49:32.010 --> 01:49:40.530
brycerogow: i'm the memo to bone in, and I also have other if you encounter the person, but my landlady here she's also using my computer.

977
01:49:41.370 --> 01:49:54.300
brycerogow: And she'd like to say, if you want to go ahead, you have 30 seconds, yes, we oppose the most to reconsider the memo to Bowman, it does not need to be reconsidered, it has already been considered.

978
01:49:55.470 --> 01:49:55.920
So.

979
01:49:57.180 --> 01:49:59.100
brycerogow: ricky Williams Thank you so much, I appreciate.

980
01:49:59.130 --> 01:50:01.500
Daffodil Tyminski: All right, appreciate it i'm.

981
01:50:03.240 --> 01:50:05.250
Daffodil Tyminski: Alexandra Reynolds go ahead.

982
01:50:05.880 --> 01:50:09.420
brycerogow: We did put her voice into this crazy mix of democracy.

983
01:50:10.530 --> 01:50:11.580
Alexandra Reynolds: I can you hear me.

984
01:50:12.510 --> 01:50:17.520
Alexandra Reynolds: Yes, okay hi my name is Alex Reynolds this evening, can you hear me.

985
01:50:19.050 --> 01:50:19.740
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, Hello.

986
01:50:19.980 --> 01:50:26.700
Alexandra Reynolds: Can you start over please, so I get the full minute i'm a neighborhood Council member of westchester i'm speaking as a stakeholder but i'd like some time.

987
01:50:28.440 --> 01:50:36.870
Alexandra Reynolds: Okay hi my name is Alex Rentals this evening i'm speaking as a private stakeholder and mom with the school age child as of last year, I also serve on the neighborhood Council of westchester apply it.

988
01:50:37.200 --> 01:50:42.000
Alexandra Reynolds: Shame on the dnc how arrogant to think that you can push your homeless problem into our neighborhood.

989
01:50:42.420 --> 01:50:49.380
Alexandra Reynolds: By two schools, suggesting that you space where children play is viable and for your problem rv campers and the homeless encampment.

990
01:50:49.650 --> 01:50:58.650
Alexandra Reynolds: Venice should not be moved into our neighborhood many in our Community of work tirelessly to take ownership of our own homeless issues with encampments at westchester park in the wetlands, we have worked.

991
01:50:58.950 --> 01:51:04.050
Alexandra Reynolds: long and hard over a year to offer CD 11 alternative sites and commercial areas around the airport.

992
01:51:04.290 --> 01:51:14.580
Alexandra Reynolds: Not near schools and residents and now you go behind our backs without consult to undo all of our efforts and hard work, this is not a solution, you just became part of the problem together we win divided we.

993
01:51:14.580 --> 01:51:19.530
Alexandra Reynolds: fall, please be good neighbors the people of Westminster would never do this defend us shame on you.

994
01:51:21.630 --> 01:51:22.170
Alexandra Reynolds: Thank you.

995
01:51:24.960 --> 01:51:27.510
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay Lisa redmond go ahead.

996
01:51:30.030 --> 01:51:42.270
Daffodil Tyminski: And I actually I feel sort of compelled to say here we have spoken with West Chester about this, and we, the reason why we have emotion, to reconsider here is because we recognize, or at least I recognize personally.

997
01:51:42.570 --> 01:51:57.990
Daffodil Tyminski: That we made have made a mistake and the way we handled it, and so we put this motion to reconsider on to try to fix it so at least be mindful of that and making your comment, because we really are only talking about the motion to reconsider Lisa go ahead.

998
01:51:59.730 --> 01:52:09.240
Lisa Redmond: i'm first half your commentary right there is so wrong in the middle of public comment to its point of order, those people have been allowed to speak for a minute each.

999
01:52:09.720 --> 01:52:22.890
Lisa Redmond: On merits which this is just to open it up, but anyway, I want to encourage opening up this for reconsideration, because I am truly enjoying the wind change that has happened.

1000
01:52:23.910 --> 01:52:26.160
Lisa Redmond: So please open it up for reconsideration.

1001
01:52:28.020 --> 01:52:28.710
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Lisa.

1002
01:52:31.170 --> 01:52:32.790
Daffodil Tyminski: who's next here Helen Helen.

1003
01:52:33.840 --> 01:52:34.590
Daffodil Tyminski: Helen go ahead.

1004
01:52:36.540 --> 01:52:50.220
Helen Fallon: No i'm glad that Lisa pointed out how inappropriate was for you daffodil to be lecturing a public comment commentator on I understand the rotational westchester completely I hope you will, I urge you to reconsider this.

1005
01:52:51.420 --> 01:53:07.920
Helen Fallon: Clearly, there was information that was not shared that should have been shared at the time of a boat when this boat was taken, and it probably would have changed the vote, so we consider this and make it in correct and what is an insult to other mcs.

1006
01:53:11.250 --> 01:53:13.500
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, Margaret malloy go ahead.

1007
01:53:15.060 --> 01:53:25.710
Margaret Molloy: I want to know why NICO letterman is bringing emotion that references westchester and see and not people as individuals.

1008
01:53:26.280 --> 01:53:45.870
Margaret Molloy: I mean you guys are just such a political entity and your commentary daffodil people making some substantive comments you you announced that it was for reconsideration only not the merit of the motion, but you've ignored all of that it's just a crock of shit shame on you all.

1009
01:53:48.960 --> 01:53:51.810
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay kristin arch of all go ahead.

1010
01:53:55.860 --> 01:54:14.490
Kristen Archival: I i'm i'm a Venice resident, and I also work here i've been here since 1988 and I was happy to see this motion, I hope you don't reconsider it, we need a road that map for solutions, my understanding is it's not binding there's a lot in there.

1011
01:54:15.900 --> 01:54:34.920
Kristen Archival: It is not just a Venice problem, it is a Los Angeles problem, a lot of people in the street are not from Venice, if you look at the license plates from Oregon Washington Colorado it's a problem that has festered in Venice, because there has not been any solutions.

1012
01:54:36.540 --> 01:54:50.520
Kristen Archival: reconsidering all of this when there's one part, and this has to move forward, we were going on two years of insanity and fear and danger, so I hope you don't reconsider Thank you.

1013
01:54:52.740 --> 01:54:53.250
Thanks.

1014
01:54:54.660 --> 01:54:59.310
Daffodil Tyminski: We have two more comments you'll want to Gonzales and marissa Ramos and then we're closing public comment.

1015
01:55:01.080 --> 01:55:02.040
Daffodil Tyminski: You want to go ahead.

1016
01:55:08.970 --> 01:55:09.540
Daffodil Tyminski: Yolanda.

1017
01:55:13.980 --> 01:55:15.240
Yolanda Gonzalez: Okay, oh.

1018
01:55:15.300 --> 01:55:17.610
Yolanda Gonzalez: Yolanda can you hear me, yes, can you hear me now.

1019
01:55:17.820 --> 01:55:18.600
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, go ahead.

1020
01:55:18.990 --> 01:55:32.460
Yolanda Gonzalez: Yes, as i'm listening to the comments from westchester we've worked we've had a good relationship with them throughout the years we've helped each other, I don't think reconsideration at this moment moment is not not to.

1021
01:55:32.970 --> 01:55:45.990
Yolanda Gonzalez: it's not political, and my opinion it's a it's a Community problem that has come upon us so on voting soon, I hope you don't reconsider this motion whatsoever, thank you.

1022
01:55:49.020 --> 01:55:52.290
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you um last comment Mario Rama.

1023
01:55:54.720 --> 01:55:58.230
mario ramos: hi you, thank you for taking my call, and thank you to everybody, on the Council.

1024
01:55:58.800 --> 01:56:10.260
mario ramos: Especially with regards to westchester to the gentleman in westchester who was upset about this reconsideration, I understand what you what you're feeling i'm a Venice resident myself either side of me.

1025
01:56:10.800 --> 01:56:17.130
mario ramos: There Kristen arch of all was just speaking, I have another young lady who was on the other side of me this homelessness problem.

1026
01:56:17.460 --> 01:56:28.410
mario ramos: Is has got to stop not i've been in this same building for almost 15 years never once have I seen so many COPs so many fire trucks we live on a side street.

1027
01:56:28.830 --> 01:56:43.530
mario ramos: We have our vs being part here they're doing whatever they want we've got people screaming at all hours of the night westchester i'm sorry that this is this is going to be reconsidered, for you to take the burden of this but that's right, this is a problem in Los Angeles.

1028
01:56:44.580 --> 01:56:56.520
mario ramos: I it's it's it's a hard thing because there's a lot of families involved there's kids involved, but you need to do something, and you need to do it now, and you need to do it better, we all have to work each other with each other, thank you.

1029
01:56:57.840 --> 01:57:01.770
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, Mario okay with that will close public comment Jim.

1030
01:57:01.800 --> 01:57:04.080
Nico Ruderman: Go ahead like Lucy Lucy has her hand up for.

1031
01:57:04.080 --> 01:57:04.680
Nico Ruderman: Public comment.

1032
01:57:05.670 --> 01:57:06.630
jim murez: Yes, it's true.

1033
01:57:08.130 --> 01:57:09.060
jim murez: Probably the first one.

1034
01:57:10.170 --> 01:57:10.860
Nico Ruderman: she's a top.

1035
01:57:11.340 --> 01:57:15.630
Daffodil Tyminski: LG she was she was on as a panelist so go ahead Lucy sorry about that okay.

1036
01:57:16.230 --> 01:57:21.390
Lucy Han: Good evening Council members, my name is Lucy hot or nonprofit his friends, a jungle based in Playa del rey.

1037
01:57:21.600 --> 01:57:29.670
Lucy Han: We support item 15 reconsideration is very off putting for the dnc to support a shelter across the street from our amount elementary school in West Chester.

1038
01:57:29.880 --> 01:57:41.280
Lucy Han: we've been working closely with some of the dnc Members on other issues as trying to find alternative sites for shelters near the airport we've been mentioned a 24 acre live by the airport, but the dnc voltages for a shelter next to our school.

1039
01:57:41.550 --> 01:57:47.730
Lucy Han: A member of the public, even mentioned in your last meeting that the shelter was next to school, but the dnc still voted to support it anyway.

1040
01:57:47.970 --> 01:57:53.070
Lucy Han: This is equivalent to the neighbor Council of westchester supporting a shelter next to Westminster elementary.

1041
01:57:53.340 --> 01:57:57.870
Lucy Han: You guys wouldn't like that the motion suggesting the shelter in our area does not make for good politics with.

1042
01:57:58.200 --> 01:58:02.970
Lucy Han: Our neighborhood Council it sets a precedent for other neighbors house Councils to recommend shelters.

1043
01:58:03.330 --> 01:58:13.740
Lucy Han: and support shelters in Venice, like the Westminster elementary the shelter location next of visitation school is no longer considered by the airport the airport will not be considered to have shelters there.

1044
01:58:13.980 --> 01:58:21.390
Lucy Han: Are community would appreciate, if you would consent to the neighborhood to to show, please do what is right and approve the reconsideration, thank you.

1045
01:58:23.010 --> 01:58:25.440
jim murez: Thank you, thank you Lucy sorry to make you wait so long.

1046
01:58:27.870 --> 01:58:31.290
jim murez: Okay that's that ends public comment is that right to have adele.

1047
01:58:31.560 --> 01:58:32.850
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, it does okay.

1048
01:58:35.340 --> 01:58:38.010
jim murez: So now we're going to go back to.

1049
01:58:39.150 --> 01:58:48.780
jim murez: The Board does anybody on the board have anything they want to say about the reconsideration motion, this is not about the merits of the motion.

1050
01:58:49.050 --> 01:59:05.130
jim murez: That will come up later, a lot of people were speaking to the merits of the motion, this is not about the merits of the motion, if you have a question about why does somebody want to reconsider it that's a different story, but that's just about the reconsideration, not about.

1051
01:59:06.690 --> 01:59:11.340
jim murez: The context of the item itself so having said that.

1052
01:59:13.080 --> 01:59:14.790
jim murez: Andre you had your hand up first go ahead.

1053
01:59:15.630 --> 01:59:21.090
Andrea Boccaletti: yeah i'm i'm a bit confused here because I did not know that we voted to put to suggest the shelter.

1054
01:59:21.090 --> 01:59:22.230
Andrea Boccaletti: And costs from the so.

1055
01:59:22.320 --> 01:59:25.260
jim murez: That that has to do with the content we're not going to talk about.

1056
01:59:25.710 --> 01:59:30.150
Andrea Boccaletti: Okay, well then, then, then, can Can we just can we make, can we make a motion to.

1057
01:59:30.390 --> 01:59:31.530
Andrea Boccaletti: remove it.

1058
01:59:31.560 --> 01:59:36.570
jim murez: You have we have a motion on the floor, whether or not we're going to reconsider it but.

1059
01:59:36.690 --> 01:59:37.650
jim murez: We decide.

1060
01:59:37.740 --> 01:59:40.350
Andrea Boccaletti: Let me reiterate, can we not make a motion to remove.

1061
01:59:40.350 --> 01:59:41.400
jim murez: Let me, let me.

1062
01:59:41.670 --> 01:59:49.860
jim murez: Let me finish please we can't do anything at this point, other than reconsider it or not reconsider it that's all we can do.

1063
01:59:50.340 --> 02:00:00.570
jim murez: If we decide to reconsider it, we can open it up, and we can modify the motion we can send it back to committee, where they can modify the motion we can.

1064
02:00:00.930 --> 02:00:19.260
jim murez: decide that actually it was a good motion, but we can then talk about the content, right now, we cannot talk about the content, we can only talk about whether or not we want to reconsider it or not, once it's reconsidered, then we can talk about the content is that clear yeah.

1065
02:00:19.740 --> 02:00:20.100
Okay.

1066
02:00:21.120 --> 02:00:22.890
jim murez: You have a question about reconsideration.

1067
02:00:24.090 --> 02:00:27.780
jim murez: Okay, you ever had went down NICO do you have a question about reconsideration.

1068
02:00:29.340 --> 02:00:30.960
Nico Ruderman: I don't have a question i'm a comment.

1069
02:00:31.680 --> 02:00:32.010
jim murez: Okay.

1070
02:00:32.220 --> 02:00:32.970
jim murez: Go ahead that.

1071
02:00:33.270 --> 02:00:43.230
Nico Ruderman: The reason I made this motion for reconsideration is because I did, and I believe a lot of people did not notice or were aware of what the law was sites were.

1072
02:00:44.430 --> 02:00:57.990
Nico Ruderman: And I would never have voted yes on this, I would have I would have put in an emotion, to amend it's had I had, I noticed that I was very familiar with this visitation site and I missed it due to other things going on that day.

1073
02:00:59.220 --> 02:01:08.730
Nico Ruderman: So that is why i'm reconsidering it, I also know that there was no outreach done whatsoever with West Chester and we should not be proposing anything that is affecting other neighborhoods.

1074
02:01:09.150 --> 02:01:15.570
Nico Ruderman: without doing outreach to them, so that is why i'm asking for reconsideration, I want to make clear I, like the majority of this motion.

1075
02:01:15.960 --> 02:01:17.940
Nico Ruderman: I know a lot of work was let's not.

1076
02:01:17.970 --> 02:01:19.860
jim murez: let's not talk about the merits of the motion.

1077
02:01:19.860 --> 02:01:21.150
Nico Ruderman: Right, I apologize.

1078
02:01:21.360 --> 02:01:23.550
jim murez: that's okay Jim rob you have your hand up.

1079
02:01:24.150 --> 02:01:28.470
Jim Robb: Yes, my only question is yes, is a five oh yes it's to reconsider correct.

1080
02:01:28.860 --> 02:01:32.970
jim murez: If you vote yes, it will be to reconsider and then we can talk about the merits of the motion.

1081
02:01:33.180 --> 02:01:33.630
Jim Robb: Thank you.

1082
02:01:34.080 --> 02:01:35.820
jim murez: Okay Ali, you have a question.

1083
02:01:36.330 --> 02:01:38.430
Alley Bean: No, I just would like to make a comment to that.

1084
02:01:39.750 --> 02:01:46.380
Alley Bean: I to voted for this motion originally and to those of you in from westchester that are that are with us.

1085
02:01:47.760 --> 02:01:56.430
Alley Bean: I did not understand and I thought I mean, I was very long motion on I read everything I thought really carefully, but I did not understand that it.

1086
02:01:56.730 --> 02:02:05.340
Alley Bean: included this parcel by the school, which I know that you fought very hard for and that maxine waters stepped in and everything, so I also.

1087
02:02:05.760 --> 02:02:21.960
Alley Bean: Therefore, want to vote to reconsider it and also, I think it's really I don't think this is about merits Jim I hope not, but I just I think it's really important that that we all unite defined really creative solutions to get people into all kinds of housing so.

1088
02:02:23.430 --> 02:02:25.230
jim murez: that's what the race Thank you ellie that.

1089
02:02:25.350 --> 02:02:26.820
jim murez: that's getting into the content.

1090
02:02:27.120 --> 02:02:30.540
jim murez: Not real hard part, you will have something about reconsideration.

1091
02:02:30.660 --> 02:02:35.790
clark brown: Yes, there's a procedural matter does Nikos motion require a second.

1092
02:02:36.390 --> 02:02:37.800
jim murez: year we got one who.

1093
02:02:37.890 --> 02:02:39.210
jim murez: I second valley it's on.

1094
02:02:39.270 --> 02:02:44.100
clark brown: Right, so the motion, having been seconded we're now at the point of.

1095
02:02:45.150 --> 02:02:47.730
clark brown: board comment on the motion is that correct.

1096
02:02:48.060 --> 02:02:48.600
jim murez: that's right.

1097
02:02:48.630 --> 02:02:50.220
jim murez: The motion to reconsider.

1098
02:02:50.460 --> 02:02:55.200
clark brown: And at this point NICO has given his reasons and ellie has given her reasons.

1099
02:02:55.440 --> 02:02:56.400
jim murez: that's correct all right.

1100
02:02:57.090 --> 02:02:58.050
clark brown: me I respond.

1101
02:02:58.650 --> 02:03:01.800
jim murez: only to the issue of reconsideration.

1102
02:03:02.700 --> 02:03:03.720
jim murez: respond nothing.

1103
02:03:03.780 --> 02:03:05.580
jim murez: nothing to do with the content.

1104
02:03:07.500 --> 02:03:08.160
clark brown: I understand.

1105
02:03:08.460 --> 02:03:08.880
jim murez: Thank you.

1106
02:03:10.860 --> 02:03:32.070
clark brown: We should discourage motions for reconsideration, otherwise we will spend all our time on things we already decided the argument for reconsideration is that on January 18 the board did not know the westchester which object to a recommendation to use one of two parcels near.

1107
02:03:32.100 --> 02:03:34.650
jim murez: la ask you getting into the content.

1108
02:03:34.770 --> 02:03:57.930
clark brown: No, this is this is on the motion for reconsideration, it addresses the issue of whether reconsideration is appropriate and my argument is that reconsideration is not appropriate if the facts were before the the Board and the documents were before the board and and boredom read them.

1109
02:03:58.500 --> 02:04:01.020
clark brown: Okay that's what the argument is.

1110
02:04:01.170 --> 02:04:02.250
jim murez: that's correct Thank you.

1111
02:04:02.310 --> 02:04:04.050
clark brown: Now, may I continue.

1112
02:04:04.380 --> 02:04:07.260
jim murez: Well, you just you just made your point about the reconsider I.

1113
02:04:07.290 --> 02:04:08.460
clark brown: wanted to go on, please.

1114
02:04:08.520 --> 02:04:11.910
jim murez: know you we don't want you going into the content i'm not going into the content.

1115
02:04:11.940 --> 02:04:19.980
clark brown: On speaking to the procedural issue of the circumstances under which reconsideration is appropriate or inappropriate.

1116
02:04:21.540 --> 02:04:22.710
clark brown: And in this case.

1117
02:04:24.090 --> 02:04:34.260
clark brown: All the relevant facts were in the documents, the exhibits to the memo depicted both parcels of land, including the parcel that was.

1118
02:04:34.260 --> 02:04:35.730
jim murez: Mark you're talking about.

1119
02:04:35.730 --> 02:04:36.630
jim murez: The issue again.

1120
02:04:37.410 --> 02:04:38.190
jim murez: want to talk.

1121
02:04:38.400 --> 02:04:48.180
jim murez: About Clark, let me make it very clear NICO is allowed to make a motion for reconsideration, just like any other board member.

1122
02:04:48.540 --> 02:04:56.910
jim murez: Once he makes that motion another Board Member said that she didn't understand as well to people said they did not understand the motion.

1123
02:04:57.180 --> 02:05:04.770
jim murez: Because you understood the motion you feel differently you're allowed to feel differently we're not talking about the content of the motion.

1124
02:05:04.980 --> 02:05:22.440
jim murez: we're only talking about whether or not you understood or did not understand has nothing to do with what was published in the facts, the person that made the request to reconsider did not understand they stated very clearly, they did not understand the content.

1125
02:05:22.650 --> 02:05:24.120
clark brown: Of what was published.

1126
02:05:24.150 --> 02:05:24.780
jim murez: And the easy to.

1127
02:05:24.930 --> 02:05:25.680
jim murez: Talk about it.

1128
02:05:25.770 --> 02:05:36.300
clark brown: And then be excuse me, the issue then becomes they have a valid basis for not understanding when parcel when both parcels were described in the.

1129
02:05:37.170 --> 02:05:47.670
clark brown: In the memo and vicki holiday is made a point at the second meeting we had after the election that every board member has an obligation to carefully read.

1130
02:05:48.150 --> 02:06:06.930
clark brown: The documents which are links on the agenda and if they have any questions to discuss their questions, would the proponent of the document Furthermore, our debate on this lasted 23 minutes transcript shows that the debate lasted 23 minutes.

1131
02:06:08.220 --> 02:06:15.120
clark brown: five members of the public spoke six Council six the board members spoke vicki halladay.

1132
02:06:17.550 --> 02:06:20.040
clark brown: def def adele and.

1133
02:06:21.390 --> 02:06:22.980
Nico Ruderman: This is totally irrelevant whether I have.

1134
02:06:23.730 --> 02:06:24.090
clark brown: as much.

1135
02:06:24.360 --> 02:06:25.800
jim murez: NICO let me, let me, let me.

1136
02:06:25.890 --> 02:06:27.570
clark brown: One other person specifically men.

1137
02:06:27.570 --> 02:06:29.940
jim murez: Like you need you need to wrap this up okay.

1138
02:06:32.100 --> 02:06:38.370
clark brown: There was there was debate on this at the at before the board documents were before the board.

1139
02:06:38.760 --> 02:06:39.720
clark brown: Thank you, they were before.

1140
02:06:40.140 --> 02:06:46.080
jim murez: They were the debate you're talking about also is before the committee and that does not change.

1141
02:06:46.350 --> 02:07:00.240
jim murez: The the opportunity as its described in robert's rules for any member of the body to be able to have it reconsidered at the following meetings that's what we're doing Thank you Clark i'm going to move on to Sema you have your hand up go ahead, please.

1142
02:07:04.860 --> 02:07:17.850
Sima Kostovetsky: I just like to point out, which the West Chester community has pointed out, they became aware of this, after our meetings, I think that that's a really important point, with all due respect.

1143
02:07:18.270 --> 02:07:32.700
Sima Kostovetsky: Initially, to Clark so just wanting to point that out procedurally that sometimes we as neighborhoods find out about things, after our board meetings, maybe there's a way to go about that in the future, but.

1144
02:07:34.230 --> 02:07:36.690
jim murez: Thank you so much, Melissa you have your hand up.

1145
02:07:37.260 --> 02:07:50.400
melissa diner : yeah I don't think we should be reconsidering something that people weren't clear on last month that had the attachments that now is on for reconsideration this month, without the attachments Thank you.

1146
02:07:51.720 --> 02:07:56.700
jim murez: Thank you okay so i'm going to now close the committee comment let's take a vote.

1147
02:07:59.040 --> 02:08:00.150
Sima Kostovetsky: Was that clear.

1148
02:08:01.350 --> 02:08:01.950
jim murez: Excuse me.

1149
02:08:02.760 --> 02:08:05.310
Sima Kostovetsky: Sorry, I just sorry.

1150
02:08:05.940 --> 02:08:07.710
Sima Kostovetsky: You want to mute probably see me there you go.

1151
02:08:08.670 --> 02:08:09.810
jim murez: daffodil, how do you vote.

1152
02:08:10.500 --> 02:08:11.100
Yes.

1153
02:08:13.650 --> 02:08:14.700
jim murez: Melissa, how do you vote.

1154
02:08:15.060 --> 02:08:15.390
Now.

1155
02:08:17.700 --> 02:08:18.300
jim murez: How do you vote.

1156
02:08:18.780 --> 02:08:21.120
jim murez: Yes, Mickey, how do you vote.

1157
02:08:26.220 --> 02:08:26.700
jim murez: Nikki.

1158
02:08:30.330 --> 02:08:31.530
jim murez: i'll come back Bruno.

1159
02:08:31.800 --> 02:08:32.250
Now.

1160
02:08:35.220 --> 02:08:36.810
jim murez: go there, it is Sema.

1161
02:08:37.440 --> 02:08:38.040
Yes.

1162
02:08:39.150 --> 02:08:39.720
Sima Kostovetsky: NICO.

1163
02:08:42.420 --> 02:08:42.840
Nico Ruderman: Yes.

1164
02:08:44.160 --> 02:08:44.880
jim murez: Jim Rom.

1165
02:08:45.570 --> 02:08:46.050
Yes.

1166
02:08:48.030 --> 02:08:48.570
jim murez: Le.

1167
02:08:49.170 --> 02:08:49.740
Yes.

1168
02:08:52.530 --> 02:08:53.160
Chie Lunn: Yes.

1169
02:08:54.390 --> 02:08:54.840
jim murez: Mike.

1170
02:08:55.470 --> 02:08:55.980
Yes.

1171
02:08:57.090 --> 02:08:57.810
jim murez: So it out.

1172
02:08:59.220 --> 02:09:00.690
Soledad Ursua: I know.

1173
02:09:02.550 --> 02:09:03.210
jim murez: cj.

1174
02:09:04.110 --> 02:09:04.680
me.

1175
02:09:06.330 --> 02:09:08.010
jim murez: Sorry cj What do you say abstain.

1176
02:09:08.220 --> 02:09:11.400
jim murez: abstain, thank you Oliver, how do you vote.

1177
02:09:11.760 --> 02:09:12.300
Yes.

1178
02:09:13.650 --> 02:09:14.400
jim murez: Elizabeth.

1179
02:09:15.630 --> 02:09:16.050
Elizabeth Clay: know.

1180
02:09:18.300 --> 02:09:18.810
jim murez: Robert.

1181
02:09:24.300 --> 02:09:24.810
jim murez: Clark.

1182
02:09:25.260 --> 02:09:25.740
No.

1183
02:09:28.200 --> 02:09:29.940
jim murez: Did vicki return vicki are you there.

1184
02:09:33.720 --> 02:09:35.010
jim murez: And i'm in a boat yes.

1185
02:09:36.210 --> 02:09:43.890
jim murez: Motion carries 961 so now what we do is we go back and we.

1186
02:09:45.120 --> 02:09:45.840
Andrea Boccaletti: have six one.

1187
02:09:46.650 --> 02:09:47.190
Andrea Boccaletti: Excuse me.

1188
02:09:48.630 --> 02:09:56.670
jim murez: 10 610 excuse me here right 1010 six one did I say 17 I was reading the first number 10 six one the motion carried.

1189
02:09:58.170 --> 02:10:02.460
jim murez: Now we go back and we reopen the original motion.

1190
02:10:06.210 --> 02:10:15.060
jim murez: which was to send a letter to Mr bond and and I see a few hands up daffodil did you want to say something.

1191
02:10:16.800 --> 02:10:21.960
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah so we did, can you scroll down a little bit to the actual language of emotion.

1192
02:10:21.990 --> 02:10:32.760
Daffodil Tyminski: Please yes um you know I feel like there's some sort of collective amnesia going on, because we did discuss this last month we did discuss that the.

1193
02:10:34.290 --> 02:10:42.780
Daffodil Tyminski: site that was picked was near and elementary school, we did discuss that that site had already been rejected, but if everyone remembers.

1194
02:10:43.200 --> 02:10:49.590
Daffodil Tyminski: This was originally brought up to the dnc in September, October and for various reasons it kept getting continued month, a month.

1195
02:10:50.100 --> 02:10:58.410
Daffodil Tyminski: So in that meeting the option was either to send it back to committee, thereby prolonging the process even further, or just vote.

1196
02:10:58.860 --> 02:11:11.880
Daffodil Tyminski: And I think what we said, which is probably why everyone voted for it was we will just communicate to westchester that we understand this site is off the table, but in principle, what we were looking for was for the Council office to.

1197
02:11:13.440 --> 02:11:27.030
Daffodil Tyminski: Look, for land near the airport, so I understand why people voted the way they did, because that was the discussion we had so what I would ask is that we amend this motion and to reconsider it so that we.

1198
02:11:28.950 --> 02:11:33.900
Daffodil Tyminski: not ask the Council office to, and I think you need to scroll down a little bit more.

1199
02:11:35.160 --> 02:11:40.770
Daffodil Tyminski: not ask the Council office to consider a particular site, but just to consider.

1200
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Daffodil Tyminski: vacant available land.

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Daffodil Tyminski: In around the airport.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Where there is actually an abundance of open land and CD 11.

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jim murez: So, are you making an alternate motion.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah yeah that would be what i'm doing oh I can't and.

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Soledad Ursua: I can bring a second, that this is solid and.

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Soledad Ursua: I just want to play out because that was sort of the idea to just look for land around the airport, so I definitely second it that's what we intended to do it wasn't.

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Soledad Ursua: You know malicious pointing out a property, specifically in that area, so I just it should not be construed as little call we're just trying to get suggestions to work with the Council office you show that we're actively working.

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Daffodil Tyminski: So right no I agree and, in fact, that was the West Chester reaction so strongly because they have voted in the past, for example, to support the Rose avenue homeless project, which is a specific project in a specific location.

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robertthibodeau: ask a question.

1210
02:12:40.980 --> 02:12:41.400
jim murez: hang on.

1211
02:12:41.460 --> 02:12:42.510
hang on one second.

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robertthibodeau: point of your question.

1213
02:12:44.760 --> 02:12:45.840
jim murez: Yes, please read.

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robertthibodeau: Two thirds to for reconsideration, I mean in the.

1215
02:12:49.200 --> 02:12:52.140
robertthibodeau: Pal lets you change the rules i'm pretty sure it's two thirds.

1216
02:12:52.200 --> 02:12:54.870
jim murez: Robert Roberts rule says it's a simple majority.

1217
02:12:54.930 --> 02:12:55.470
robertthibodeau: We look at.

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robertthibodeau: apologize for interrupting.

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jim murez: Down oh that's all right.

1220
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robertthibodeau: i'm glad you asked why I really thought so okay sorry.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay.

1222
02:13:04.980 --> 02:13:05.730
Daffodil Tyminski: Just one minute.

1223
02:13:05.790 --> 02:13:06.480
Daffodil Tyminski: Just one minute.

1224
02:13:06.780 --> 02:13:08.400
Ivan: This could be on top.

1225
02:13:08.460 --> 02:13:10.440
Daffodil Tyminski: And I don't have you just.

1226
02:13:10.530 --> 02:13:11.850
Ivan: want to get this corrected.

1227
02:13:12.960 --> 02:13:13.470
Ivan: Okay.

1228
02:13:15.120 --> 02:13:17.190
Ivan: somebody's trying to make promotion.

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Ivan: You have to do that and then get a second.

1230
02:13:21.990 --> 02:13:25.920
Ivan: battle started proposing something and already it's in discussion.

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jim murez: yeah I understand i've been Thank you, I was trying to get the wording from her when we got sidetracked into so.

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Ivan: Please, please get.

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Ivan: Get yes, if the wording.

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Ivan: thing, and you have to do you can't amend motion to save the opposite.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay that's not what i'm reporting and.

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Daffodil Tyminski: All gemma's I can't because of the way your screen sharing and i'm on my laptop, which was a mistake but means most tonight I just need you to scroll back up to the language of emotion, so we can get I can see the wording.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, as to back down rolling.

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02:14:04.320 --> 02:14:05.280
jim murez: Which which part.

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02:14:05.490 --> 02:14:07.710
Daffodil Tyminski: Well, the the actual substantive part so scroll.

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jim murez: down, this is it right here.

1241
02:14:09.420 --> 02:14:11.400
Daffodil Tyminski: Right okay so.

1242
02:14:12.540 --> 02:14:22.890
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm point to here, I propose that we amend the motion so that Point number two, where it says directs his Presidents oh sorry.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'm so sorry moving up to where it says the board of the Venice neighborhood Council has reading considered the memo receiving her public comment there on the board here by approves the memo I would amend part one to say approved approves.

1244
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Daffodil Tyminski: i'm working with the westchester neighborhood Council to identify suitable locations.

1245
02:14:57.300 --> 02:14:59.010
Daffodil Tyminski: near la X.

1246
02:15:06.900 --> 02:15:09.180
Ivan: Okay perfect trip, the whole thing for no.

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02:15:09.390 --> 02:15:11.250
Daffodil Tyminski: No go ahead, I was giving them time to time.

1248
02:15:11.640 --> 02:15:15.960
jim murez: yeah i'm just starting to type go ahead, the wii and doing it off screen the dnc does why.

1249
02:15:17.160 --> 02:15:18.330
Daffodil Tyminski: The dnc.

1250
02:15:18.720 --> 02:15:21.270
Daffodil Tyminski: Well, approves.

1251
02:15:22.350 --> 02:15:25.620
Daffodil Tyminski: Working with the westchester neighborhood Council.

1252
02:15:29.670 --> 02:15:31.140
Daffodil Tyminski: to identify.

1253
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Daffodil Tyminski: appropriate locations.

1254
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Daffodil Tyminski: For temporary housing.

1255
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Ivan: Okay, I think, after what's the worst worst wire neighborhood Council all.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Right fine yeah sorry can correct it was just reply, the point is, I think that was always the intention, but I think what we.

1257
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jim murez: didn't I thought we communicated to westchester and.

1258
02:16:00.180 --> 02:16:00.660
Apparently.

1259
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Daffodil Tyminski: Alright guys.

1260
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Ivan: Before you go off on the content.

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02:16:05.100 --> 02:16:07.410
Ivan: yeah is that your whole motion there.

1262
02:16:07.980 --> 02:16:08.880
Ivan: That is my.

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Daffodil Tyminski: That is my whole amendment.

1264
02:16:10.950 --> 02:16:14.040
Ivan: Okay Jimmy you need a second on her amendment.

1265
02:16:14.070 --> 02:16:16.620
jim murez: yeah let me, let me make sure that I got it written correctly.

1266
02:16:17.670 --> 02:16:21.420
Daffodil Tyminski: So now scroll down a little bit more Jim so we can see what you've typed in.

1267
02:16:21.480 --> 02:16:25.920
jim murez: yeah I haven't typed it in I just copying it out in notepad to.

1268
02:16:26.490 --> 02:16:26.850
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay.

1269
02:16:27.510 --> 02:16:29.280
jim murez: Because I you wanted to see it so.

1270
02:16:33.540 --> 02:16:35.730
jim murez: So that's the wording that I ended up with.

1271
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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah.

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robertthibodeau: well.

1273
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Daffodil Tyminski: I think that's fine I mean originally I had been thinking of round la X, but I would leave it up to that district to to identify whatever they like.

1274
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jim murez: So.

1275
02:16:52.770 --> 02:16:54.090
jim murez: I think.

1276
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jim murez: If I cut this for one second and I just click copy the original to the copy original yeah so there's the original and what we actually want to do we don't need the vote in here.

1277
02:17:15.870 --> 02:17:18.270
Alley Bean: I have to say point of order to ask a question.

1278
02:17:18.390 --> 02:17:21.270
jim murez: We want to put this in hang on one, second, let me get this right.

1279
02:17:21.270 --> 02:17:21.450
Ivan: For.

1280
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Alley Bean: You think about the wording.

1281
02:17:23.640 --> 02:17:28.410
jim murez: yeah so here this this part right here that's highlighted i'm about to highlight.

1282
02:17:30.810 --> 02:17:34.590
jim murez: That will be the the new wording that we're adding the part in yellow.

1283
02:17:35.340 --> 02:17:37.770
Alley Bean: Can, can I ask a point of order question or.

1284
02:17:38.130 --> 02:17:39.120
jim murez: Yes, go right ahead.

1285
02:17:39.360 --> 02:17:45.750
Alley Bean: I actually think maybe that dap you should say around la X i'm since we're saying sending it to the Council office.

1286
02:17:46.290 --> 02:17:57.210
Alley Bean: Since that's really what we're talking about but that's just since we're doing the wording now that's why I wanted to add that I think it makes it more specific, but not if you don't want to, for some reason because that's really.

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Soledad Ursua: Maybe you save Federal Land because la is Federal Land and under Title five of the was it the mckinley vento act.

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Soledad Ursua: The Federal Government is on was it, they are required to provide Federal Land for.

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jim murez: Wait wait.

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jim murez: So soledad let me interrupt you, the reason that this is all coming up is because the city of Los Angeles, we regain ownership of what was FAA land.

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jim murez: This is actually owned by the city now it used to be city property was purchased by the Federal Government, and it was.

1292
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Daffodil Tyminski: Because the FDA regulates it doesn't mean that the Federal Government owns it.

1293
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jim murez: yeah in this case, they don't.

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clark brown: offer a friendly amendment.

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jim murez: and hold what Clark just one second.

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jim murez: Okay daffodil is the part that's.

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jim murez: highlighted in yellow your motion.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, and I honestly.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Give sensitivities of play with leave it up to the westchester player neighborhood Council to identify the locations they deem.

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jim murez: Appropriate all i'm interested in is whether or not the wording that I highlighted in yellow Is that acceptable language to you, yes okay.

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jim murez: Not to be an old dad dad are you still in agreement that you're willing to second.

1302
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jim murez: guess.

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Soledad Ursua: i'll second best.

1304
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jim murez: Thank you.

1305
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jim murez: Okay let's before.

1306
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CJ Cole: Now.

1307
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CJ Cole: Everybody it's not appreciate it's appropriate.

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Ivan: For families right.

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jim murez: I never could spell.

1310
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Ivan: how's that close okay.

1311
02:19:33.990 --> 02:19:35.130
Ivan: Now, Jim.

1312
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Ivan: Can I hear.

1313
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Ivan: What do you want to do that Fidel because you're proposing this amendment, what do you want to do with number two and three, he want those removed or you're going to reward those what are you gonna do with that.

1314
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Daffodil Tyminski: um.

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Ivan: let's get it all.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I mean yeah I would just maybe then remove that's a good point Ivan I would move references to the memo.

1317
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Daffodil Tyminski: I would just say to send the motion to send the motion.

1318
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jim murez: So we're taking out two and three we're striking two and three.

1319
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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah I think Ivan you raised a really good point I hadn't thought about the memo is mentioned throughout here and I actually thought the memo was helpful and interesting, but because of the issue with the identifying locations, I would just.

1320
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Daffodil Tyminski: know I wouldn't strike i'm sorry Jim I wouldn't strike all of you and all three, I would just strike references to the memo.

1321
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Daffodil Tyminski: Replacing.

1322
02:20:35.910 --> 02:20:38.640
Ivan: The reward because the call about the memo.

1323
02:20:39.330 --> 02:20:41.550
Daffodil Tyminski: know but Jim are you moving around.

1324
02:20:41.910 --> 02:20:46.980
jim murez: Because i'm trying to find the editing tool nevermind on get there, give me a chance.

1325
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i'm.

1326
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jim murez: Okay So what do you want to just take out the word memo.

1327
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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah so.

1328
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jim murez: President to send.

1329
02:20:59.280 --> 02:21:01.470
Ivan: The letter just just.

1330
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Daffodil Tyminski: Please wait one second Jim for part one, we should strike approves the memo.

1331
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jim murez: Okay.

1332
02:21:10.260 --> 02:21:10.680
Right.

1333
02:21:12.750 --> 02:21:14.070
jim murez: So we're striking this.

1334
02:21:14.160 --> 02:21:17.460
Daffodil Tyminski: Right and then I would say the board here by so.

1335
02:21:23.460 --> 02:21:24.840
jim murez: The dnc board.

1336
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Daffodil Tyminski: I would say the board here by and then I would say, instead of the dnc approves working with, I would say moves to work with.

1337
02:21:43.530 --> 02:21:48.360
Daffodil Tyminski: And again just the way this is word we have the board here by the dnc moves so.

1338
02:21:49.230 --> 02:21:51.600
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, if you want to do that, I would strike.

1339
02:21:53.400 --> 02:21:54.120
Ivan: The Board here.

1340
02:21:55.980 --> 02:21:58.650
Ivan: I think the the word you're looking for ciao.

1341
02:22:00.870 --> 02:22:07.620
Ivan: ciao see more ciao work with work with the wp and feet too.

1342
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Daffodil Tyminski: I mean you can push out or moves I don't care what you do every but.

1343
02:22:13.350 --> 02:22:14.730
Daffodil Tyminski: So what do we want, I mean.

1344
02:22:17.910 --> 02:22:21.930
Daffodil Tyminski: I literally I would strike i'm trying to say above strike the board here by.

1345
02:22:22.500 --> 02:22:23.190
jim murez: Oh alright.

1346
02:22:26.550 --> 02:22:29.550
Daffodil Tyminski: strike that and just say the dnc.

1347
02:22:31.980 --> 02:22:33.450
jim murez: i'm listening so.

1348
02:22:33.480 --> 02:22:38.400
Daffodil Tyminski: then say the dnc board board moves or shall work with moves to work with.

1349
02:22:39.690 --> 02:22:43.740
Daffodil Tyminski: However, you want to word it is fine with me i'm not fussed about that.

1350
02:22:44.370 --> 02:22:46.170
Ivan: yeah because showers the action.

1351
02:22:51.120 --> 02:22:52.770
Daffodil Tyminski: Right well shall has a particular.

1352
02:22:53.460 --> 02:22:53.850
Ivan: Right.

1353
02:22:54.090 --> 02:23:00.030
Daffodil Tyminski: Term of art in this kind of thing but um and then frankly I think we can strike two and three.

1354
02:23:02.340 --> 02:23:05.430
jim murez: Okay, so when you say strike you mean we're going to take these out completely.

1355
02:23:08.010 --> 02:23:14.010
Daffodil Tyminski: right because I mean to we would do anyway that's what we do I think it's redundant and.

1356
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jim murez: The part that's currently on the screen and blue i'm just going to press the delete button they're going to go away.

1357
02:23:19.290 --> 02:23:20.460
Daffodil Tyminski: Just press the delete button.

1358
02:23:22.140 --> 02:23:25.320
jim murez: Okay now if we're good with this, let me just ask.

1359
02:23:25.890 --> 02:23:28.080
jim murez: Sola down one more time if she's still.

1360
02:23:28.860 --> 02:23:31.080
Daffodil Tyminski: With her so wait one more thing.

1361
02:23:31.140 --> 02:23:32.040
Daffodil Tyminski: Just the way we've got it.

1362
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Daffodil Tyminski: It should read and, by the way, Vinci, should be all caps the dnc board shall work with the wp nc to identify appropriate locations for homeless, housing, I see alleys point, we want to give some geolocation, so I would say, within the wp and say.

1363
02:23:48.660 --> 02:23:49.110
Ivan: area.

1364
02:23:50.310 --> 02:23:50.730
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah.

1365
02:23:51.720 --> 02:23:52.560
Nico Ruderman: i'm a point of order.

1366
02:23:52.800 --> 02:23:54.840
Daffodil Tyminski: Within and around anything like that.

1367
02:23:58.410 --> 02:23:59.610
clark brown: You heard of a friendly amendment.

1368
02:24:01.380 --> 02:24:02.670
Ivan: or no friendly amendment.

1369
02:24:02.940 --> 02:24:04.170
clark brown: yeah have you heard on an amendment.

1370
02:24:07.560 --> 02:24:08.310
Daffodil Tyminski: not yet part.

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jim murez: of that.

1372
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Daffodil Tyminski: I wouldn't what airport region, I would leave it totally within their discretion, but I.

1373
02:24:21.510 --> 02:24:22.920
Daffodil Tyminski: Again it's gonna.

1374
02:24:24.060 --> 02:24:25.980
Daffodil Tyminski: be the difference for someone agreeing.

1375
02:24:26.310 --> 02:24:26.820
No okay.

1376
02:24:28.200 --> 02:24:30.690
jim murez: All right, so like this solid out, are you okay without.

1377
02:24:32.400 --> 02:24:35.760
Soledad Ursua: um yeah do we want to stay around the airport, though.

1378
02:24:36.660 --> 02:24:37.620
Alley Bean: I think so.

1379
02:24:40.950 --> 02:24:41.370
jim murez: Definitely.

1380
02:24:41.460 --> 02:24:47.670
Daffodil Tyminski: I again I don't have a strong feeling either way, but I don't know the area well enough, I know there's area around the airport there might be.

1381
02:24:47.700 --> 02:25:08.370
jim murez: area around well, I mean it's very it's it's to specify around the area around the airport, you have to define what is around me and that could be 15 miles, or it could be 10 feet so let's not worry too much about it, if if we're saying that we want to put it in the West Chester Playa.

1382
02:25:09.900 --> 02:25:26.610
jim murez: jurisdiction, then we just want to say that it's going to be within that area that we're going to identify we're going to help work on finding an eye and identifying a location within their neighborhood Council that's agreeable to them and agreeable to us within their area that's all.

1383
02:25:27.870 --> 02:25:28.110
Alley Bean: I.

1384
02:25:29.220 --> 02:25:29.910
Nico Ruderman: have a point of order.

1385
02:25:30.360 --> 02:25:39.660
jim murez: If it's not inside the airport area if they if they're not if they're region is not part of the airport they don't have any say over it anyway so there's no point in worrying about it.

1386
02:25:40.740 --> 02:25:44.310
jim murez: A point of order, yes, Sir, was that NICO.

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02:25:45.150 --> 02:25:57.600
Nico Ruderman: It was me and I I don't know if this is relevant or not, but they've been working on this for over a year, and they actually already have five sites selected and their member of the neighborhood Council has been working on this is on this call.

1388
02:25:59.610 --> 02:26:01.650
jim murez: So I don't I don't know if if we want to.

1389
02:26:01.680 --> 02:26:05.400
Nico Ruderman: Specifically, if we want to bring her in and specifically discuss this.

1390
02:26:06.540 --> 02:26:09.930
Nico Ruderman: I also I know Clark had something to say I don't know if was relevant to this but.

1391
02:26:10.500 --> 02:26:12.210
jim murez: yeah let's let's try and.

1392
02:26:12.240 --> 02:26:13.020
jim murez: get this.

1393
02:26:13.260 --> 02:26:23.220
jim murez: into public comment and one when it comes back to the committee for comment, then let's invite in the the person that you're suggesting.

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jim murez: Is has been very patient actually throughout all of this in the past month and let let's let the he or she I didn't hear which it was but let let that person speak as part of the committee.

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Alley Bean: is partly order Jim.

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Alley Bean: Do we have to do the language before we allow public comment because I think what.

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Alley Bean: Well then, I think we should keep talking amongst ourselves about the language so that we don't have to then do it again.

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jim murez: No you're right alley did you have something about language I wanted to.

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jim murez: timeout timeout timeout timeout please.

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jim murez: Sorry, I have some we have some hands that are up, I want to go through the hands that are up daffodils hand is up.

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jim murez: Okay, all the dads hand is up clark's hand is up but allie your hand is not up so if.

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Alley Bean: You want to meet you just spoke to me that's why I answered you i'm so sorry raise.

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jim murez: raise your hand if you want to talk to the item that we're currently talking about solar dead.

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Soledad Ursua: Go ahead, please so here's where I think we're going to run into trouble um, I think, maybe it could we just phrase it them to work with other mcs because the way that it looks now, it looks like we're singling them out the idea was to use this specific land.

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Soledad Ursua: Because otherwise you know why not work with other mcs we're the only neighborhood Council that has bridge housing for all CD 11.

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Soledad Ursua: Because it's the way it's written I know we're going to get into problems where it's going to look like we're you know we're just picking this one neighborhood Council.

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jim murez: So, how would you suggest changing the portion in yellow.

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Soledad Ursua: What we just work with other mcs and CD 11.

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Soledad Ursua: Because it could be Brentwood.

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jim murez: It could be even we're not we're not specifying locations.

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jim murez: For homeless housing within the wp MC.

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Soledad Ursua: What if it's all mcs within CD 11.

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Soledad Ursua: I mean we could do this week, but i'm telling you we're going to get revenge, a lot of problems with just singling out one and see.

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Nico Ruderman: what's the nc that this affects.

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jim murez: Do you do, you have yeah which do you have specific language, then there was, we want to work with this nc with area within with property within their region.

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jim murez: we're not saying we're working with the del rey and see to locate a location within the westchester Playa region we're saying we want to work with the West Chester Playa folks to work with on something with this within their region, you see what i'm saying.

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Soledad Ursua: Okay, then keep it specific.

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jim murez: yeah I think it's pretty specific we're working with the nc where the with we're talking to the people that are in control of the area.

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jim murez: Okay Clark go ahead, please.

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clark brown: I think we can do this more easily Jim could you pull up on on unfair documents memos upon.

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clark brown: Where where's.

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jim murez: The memo to bonnen.

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jim murez: Well, do you have it on your screen, you can share it I don't have it here.

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clark brown: Where it's it's there's a link to it.

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jim murez: Not here, not on the motion to reconsider.

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jim murez: Why don't I come back to you let allie have a speak, while you bring it up on your computer.

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clark brown: How do I don't know how to do that.

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clark brown: If you go to the agenda.

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clark brown: hang on there's a link to it on the agenda.

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jim murez: hang on one SEC like this.

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clark brown: Around.

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jim murez: hold on hold on.

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jim murez: there's the agenda.

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clark brown: Well there's a link to the agenda on.

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clark brown: For the previous month.

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jim murez: The foundry on the previous month there was, but not on this one this.

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clark brown: previous month.

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jim murez: yeah that i'd have to go back to the previous.

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clark brown: Murphy could do that i'd appreciate it.

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jim murez: You remember what number, it was who was here was 20 no.

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jim murez: That was up.

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clark brown: There it is.

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clark brown: Yes, everything.

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jim murez: Now, with which one of these, the memo.

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clark brown: yeah just hit the memo attachments remember.

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clark brown: Open that up.

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clark brown: Now scroll down to page 878.

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jim murez: So there's seven.

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clark brown: The operative.

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clark brown: The operative provisions of the memo.

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clark brown: Is.

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clark brown: The conclusion for recommendations things to do so, if you look at paragraph five.

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clark brown: You can revise paragraph five, to strike everything from make the vacant lacks parcels one into a immediately available and instead put in there immediately investigate.

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clark brown: All appropriate sites around la X, to which homeless people can move their tents and harvey's after hooking up the utilities to the infrastructure already in place.

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clark brown: What you have here is two parcels one is the parcel next to the or near the visitation elementary school and the other is a parcel all the way out at La cienega and and century, so if you just change this to investigate all appropriate sites around la X.

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clark brown: Which homeless people can move their tents and rv.

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clark brown: And then you keep the most in exactly the way it is.

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clark brown: Here you've got you have a seven page memo with two pages of specific recommendations.

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clark brown: Then the westchester Council of objects to only one of them, it only objects to the parcel which is called parcel one which is within which is just.

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clark brown: Which is in the vicinity of the visitation elementary school was actually separated from it, so you take out the reference to the to specific to process one into their discussed in the memo but there's not an action item, the action items are the eight paragraphs in the conclusion.

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jim murez: yeah you're right it's a it's it's very complicated the way it's written out here we'd have to go back and rewrite everything all over.

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clark brown: Again, you know.

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jim murez: You Okay, well, I hear you I hear you let let.

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Nico Ruderman: i'd like to make a point of order i'd like to know how Clark knows that westchester only objected to one site around la X.

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Nico Ruderman: Well i've never done outreach.

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clark brown: I have never heard.

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clark brown: Anyone object to using drones to parcels discussed in the memo.

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Nico Ruderman: Have you done.

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clark brown: Chester pardon me.

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Nico Ruderman: outreach with westchester.

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jim murez: county.

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clark brown: councilman have you.

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Nico Ruderman: know I.

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Nico Ruderman: don't know anybody oh nice gesture Clark.

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jim murez: Let me, let me cut this off NICO we have people waiting to speak, and we have a couple more board members with their hands up.

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jim murez: I heard what Clark had to say, we all heard what Clark had to say let's get through the other comments by the other board members let's take public comment and then we'll come back and decide if we want to wordsmith this thing some more okay.

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jim murez: Clark go ahead and put your hand down alley go ahead and speak.

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Ivan: Okay, Jim before you start please make sure everybody hears you're only discussing the amendment.

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Ivan: Yes, okay.

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Alley Bean: And me i'm i'm only discussing the amendment and so think that daffodil the language, I think the way that you wording it.

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Alley Bean: makes it sound like any of West chester's land would be fine with us and that's the, I think, in the spirit of trying to unify with their neighborhood Council and with them.

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Alley Bean: it's that we understand that the sensitive issue that they bought for was the school which we completely understand.

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Alley Bean: And I didn't read clark's thing, but I didn't understand that it was that specific parcel That was all over the news that they'd fought for.

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Alley Bean: And, and if, and if I haven't done outreach with them to know if they are for the not only parcel to, but the much bigger parcel if we fought together as neighborhood Councils.

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Alley Bean: For the bigger parts around la X, so I think that we should make the language specific to La X, so that we don't think we're just talking about using whatever land in westchester I think it could get gnarly and misunderstood again.

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Alley Bean: Unless we made it clear that we'd like to unite with them to talk to the city.

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Alley Bean: About okay relax.

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jim murez: Okay, thank you ellie vicki.

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Vicki Halliday: i'm yes i'm sorry I missed the boat on the discussion on the earlier motion about this, I was doing a police report for the breaking a camp here earlier i'm walking back into this and watching this amendment.

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Vicki Halliday: Trying to be Witten I think it's way too complicated to rewrite here and now, I think this the whole motion needs to be rethought and rewritten, and then we presented to the board.

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Jim Robb: Okay, I agree with vicki oh hey.

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jim murez: hold on Jim hold on.

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Mike Bravo: Jim.

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jim murez: hey Tom so right right now, right now, we have a motion on the floor, which is to amend it this way, we have to take public comment on this, and then we can decide to vote this up or down or to modify it some more and then have more public comment.

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jim murez: You know, we can we can decide that as we, as we move through this right now I think we're all the hands are down.

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jim murez: daffodil do you want to go ahead and start the public comment rolling.

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tour.

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Daffodil Tyminski: We have five public comments.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Sex we've got Margaret malloy Alexandra Rentals Yolanda Gonzalez Helen fallon Lisa redman and 387 and we'll cut it off there um go ahead, Margaret.

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jim murez: says there's nine.

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Margaret Molloy: I have so many problems with everything about this and.

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Margaret Molloy: The amendment is so so like a morphic it's it's it's becoming like a.

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Margaret Molloy: I don't know what are those trends or things.

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Margaret Molloy: You can't possibly do it as an amendment it's a substantial change in the whole motion, and it seems really appalling to me that this was.

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Margaret Molloy: heard by the homeless committee and voted approved 700 went to add calm was approved for placement on the.

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Margaret Molloy: dnc board agenda 2030 minutes of discussion on the 18th of January, and now you figure out that what you actually voted on was.

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Margaret Molloy: Not at all what you want, and it actually probably steps on all kinds of toes and i'm really have a problem.

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Margaret Molloy: For office having a primary role and sort of advocating and certain certain constituents behalf, and I also want to say, the conclusion, what you want, what you ask for what you voted on steroids backwards it starts with all the enforcement and none of the solution.

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Thank you, Margaret.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'm.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Alexandra go ahead.

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Alexandra Reynolds: OK so i'm going to speak as a stakeholder westchester not as a neighborhood Council member, not as a homeless rack committee member of CD 11 just want to make that clear for the record.

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Alexandra Reynolds: I think that you guys need to scratch this and start fresh you guys do not know what's going on in westchester you do not know the hard work that the people and citizens of westchester have put behind this.

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Alexandra Reynolds: We already have a plan in place it's a realistic plan, we cannot take on all the homeless.

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Alexandra Reynolds: People have CB 11 rv campers tense everything else there's too many of them, we all need to share the burden.

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Alexandra Reynolds: We have spaces available near la X, not in your schools in commercial areas already assigned.

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Alexandra Reynolds: I worked with the councilman his office on private calls before I was even involved in neighborhood Council as a private citizen.

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Alexandra Reynolds: We gave them viable places we've been working with la X maxine waters, etc, etc, please talk to us the neighborhood here before you do anything else scratch this and rewrite it Thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks a lot Yolanda sorry go ahead.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: Yes, um I recall several years we supported the westchester neighborhood Council because there were certain apartments in front of the airport that they were going to rule I don't know they have removed them, yet I think there's still there, but.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: Some of the land that's there the we went to the airport Commission and the Commissioners there had put some.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: stops on the land that's around westchester.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: And I think that we should just erase it and go back because i'm going to pull up my notes on this one, and we should all work together, but.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: it's it's a very complicated issue in which the land is free, but I, I believe.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: That the lady who spoke before this we should just scrap it and let's see what their notes are and compare what's going to happen because what's going on is not feasible, we don't know where the money's going in the funding, and I think that all itself needs to.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Yolanda Helen fallon go ahead.

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Helen Fallon: think some of our board members here are listening to well West Chester basically was telling you they wanted that visitation lot completely off the table.

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Helen Fallon: And that would mean that all references to lot one would be removed and in order to do that is substituting some vague language that you're going to work with West Chester.

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Helen Fallon: is not what they're asking for, if this does need to be at frankly this thing just needs to be voted down.

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Helen Fallon: And the homeless community can come back with something that makes some sense that reflects that they've done outwards with westchester.

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Helen Fallon: And they actually know what's happening up there, it is pretty insulting for this this board to be telling another nc well you know we're going to.

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Helen Fallon: gain to work with you and we're going to work out where you should put stuff when they have done a lot of work up there, and you seem to be completely unaware of it so.

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Helen Fallon: Either I mean just can this motion or send it back to the committee and send it needs to come back completely revised and stop wasting time trying to do this on.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Helen.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Lisa redmond go ahead.

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Lisa Redmond: yeah I clearly stated all the problems with this, but you all chose not to listen, because you're so quick to just move the problem elsewhere and that's all it's nothing i'm.

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Lisa Redmond: Right now, in speaking to the amendment you've really created a mess I don't even want to say you put lipstick on a pig because that's offensive to pigs at this point.

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Lisa Redmond: In this is awful you've got to just get rid of this motion send it back to committee it's you're creating war i'll guarantee you next month it'll come back as a problem again.

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Lisa Redmond: Because you're trying to figure it out, we placed at such an incredible amount of time while we've been watching you guys right and you're not.

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Lisa Redmond: Fully considering everything in scope, send it back get rid of someone else to rewrite it put some thought into it not right now in front of all of us it's watching paint dry.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Lisa.

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Daffodil Tyminski: 387 go ahead.

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Hello.

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1530****387: hello, this is step right here stem i've been on this call two and a half hours and, quite frankly, I am stunned, it has come to this.

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1530****387: The original motion included consideration of three sites, the site across from visitation lobby and Manchester square now this has more into land in and about westchester around la at.

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1530****387: This.

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1530****387: Is this is quite stunning to the West Chester community, and it is very important that we maintain positive relations, and this is not going in the right direction.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you very much 895 go ahead.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Someone with the last three digits of your phone number 895 you need to unmute yourself.

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1310****895: Okay.

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1310****895: To look at the amendment if you switch the nc and West Chester you'll realize really understand the problem with it, it was just reset we we passed the motion and we're going to find all the Nice places in Venice, where we can send our homeless.

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1310****895: Nobody told me in them and killed the motion by.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you Erica more go ahead.

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Erica Moore: hi there I think it's abundantly clear that this motion needs to be it you've got you've got to start over it's so obvious, we have to work with our neighbors.

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Erica Moore: there's so many issues everybody's brought them up i'm not gonna you know beat a dead horse with this, but please just let's start over thanks.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Erica i'm Paula let's go ahead and with Paula we're ending public comment.

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Paula Gerez: yeah hi can you hear me.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, I can thanks.

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Paula Gerez: Thank you um I as a stakeholder in.

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Paula Gerez: westchester and.

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Paula Gerez: Actually, the neighborhood Council President of westchester Playa and we obviously i'm not taking a position on this motion, but.

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Paula Gerez: In everything that we've accomplished as a West side community in the last year to have this come our way without the slightest bit of.

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Paula Gerez: Consideration or a call or reaching out and maybe trying to craft, something that works for everybody, I would urge you to burn this and start over.

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Paula Gerez: And we want to work with our neighbors we want to solve the homeless problem, doing nothing is definitely not humane.

1565
02:46:03.090 --> 02:46:17.220
Paula Gerez: But shipping something to your neighbor without making sure that that makes sense and having for bed by a school I just can't even believe that another neighborhood Council would think that this is okay.

1566
02:46:17.910 --> 02:46:18.780
Paula Gerez: And then there yeah.

1567
02:46:20.520 --> 02:46:23.760
jim murez: Devon to let her finish she's the President of that neighborhood Council.

1568
02:46:25.230 --> 02:46:25.770
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay.

1569
02:46:29.670 --> 02:46:30.060
Daffodil Tyminski: guys.

1570
02:46:31.440 --> 02:46:39.600
Paula Gerez: Thank you for that I had to unmute myself again I would like nothing more than to work with you and all of our neighbors.

1571
02:46:40.110 --> 02:46:50.400
Paula Gerez: To solve the problem, but just arbitrarily picking something in somebody else's community without doing the homework and reaching out to the advocates that have been working.

1572
02:46:50.730 --> 02:47:04.890
Paula Gerez: tirelessly on this and taking their personal time to do this because it's it needs help, and we have been left stranded by our councilman I would ask for your cooperation, not for you to.

1573
02:47:06.210 --> 02:47:22.830
Paula Gerez: pin something without even considering how it might impact our Community, and again I stress Why would anyone want to relocate homeless near a school, a senior Center a library a park it just boggles my mind.

1574
02:47:23.640 --> 02:47:24.360
Paula Gerez: that's fine.

1575
02:47:26.310 --> 02:47:26.940
Paula Gerez: Excuse me.

1576
02:47:28.170 --> 02:47:30.150
jim murez: Somebody was interrupting you were going to.

1577
02:47:30.720 --> 02:47:41.940
Paula Gerez: remove their permit, thank you, I appreciate you guarantee me the time and I thank you for this consideration, I do value you as neighbors and I would hate for.

1578
02:47:42.330 --> 02:47:52.440
Paula Gerez: This to fester moving forward, I really hope that you'll at least reconsider it and pull it from consideration tonight, thank you.

1579
02:47:52.860 --> 02:47:57.990
jim murez: Thank you, thank you Okay, so that ended public comment um.

1580
02:47:59.190 --> 02:48:05.580
jim murez: I guess, now we have to go back to the Amended motion and.

1581
02:48:06.810 --> 02:48:11.610
jim murez: Take a vote if we want to approve the Amended motion.

1582
02:48:16.920 --> 02:48:23.730
jim murez: And unless we have committee discussion, do we have any more committee discussion does anybody want to raise their hand they want to talk about the amendment.

1583
02:48:26.370 --> 02:48:28.830
Alley Bean: I can't call the question to.

1584
02:48:28.860 --> 02:48:32.370
jim murez: send this back to cali valley yeah Oh well.

1585
02:48:32.520 --> 02:48:33.750
Alley Bean: You know, because we have.

1586
02:48:33.840 --> 02:48:36.000
jim murez: We have a motion on the floor right now.

1587
02:48:36.090 --> 02:48:36.480
Okay.

1588
02:48:38.520 --> 02:48:40.770
jim murez: yeah I don't believe so.

1589
02:48:42.090 --> 02:48:46.110
jim murez: I think we have to deal with emotion that's on the floor it's we voted up we voted down.

1590
02:48:48.150 --> 02:48:49.050
jim murez: Clark go ahead.

1591
02:48:49.650 --> 02:48:59.040
clark brown: The problem I have with the motion is that it completely wipes out the memo and the memo has nine recommendations.

1592
02:49:00.210 --> 02:49:03.270
clark brown: Seven of those have nothing to do with.

1593
02:49:04.620 --> 02:49:06.750
clark brown: The two parcels at La X.

1594
02:49:07.140 --> 02:49:16.770
clark brown: Okay, if we send this back to committee, we will not be doing anything for the homeless foreseeable future, we have to take some action.

1595
02:49:17.370 --> 02:49:34.650
clark brown: And the concerns that have been expressed here today can be met, and I think satisfied by a couple minor changes to the memo and then we keep the original motion which says that the mellow with these changes is approved.

1596
02:49:36.390 --> 02:49:38.250
clark brown: Change to recap.

1597
02:49:39.390 --> 02:49:40.080
jim murez: that's okay.

1598
02:49:40.200 --> 02:49:47.370
jim murez: Clark Clark, you did that, before we let let's let's let the other board members have have something to say we know how you feel about it.

1599
02:49:48.060 --> 02:50:01.020
jim murez: We know will will vote this up or down and then, if we voted down, then we go back to what what what do we do next, and and you'll have an opportunity then NICO go ahead, please.

1600
02:50:05.190 --> 02:50:05.970
Nico Ruderman: All right, let me unmute.

1601
02:50:07.440 --> 02:50:14.580
Nico Ruderman: This is a tough one, I really had hoped that we would be able to men this tonight, but I, I still strongly feel that that not enough outreach has been done.

1602
02:50:15.870 --> 02:50:28.980
Nico Ruderman: I I think this this has turned into a mess and I I I plan on voting it down, sadly, because I, you know as upset as i'm sure Clark is with me.

1603
02:50:29.610 --> 02:50:40.290
Nico Ruderman: I applaud his efforts, but through this motion and all the work he did, and you know he's 100% rights there people on the streets dying every day and it's it's.

1604
02:50:42.180 --> 02:50:49.860
Nico Ruderman: it's terrible and he's right, we do need to do something, but this motion is such a mess that I think I will have to vote it down tonight.

1605
02:50:50.670 --> 02:50:53.310
jim murez: Okay, thank you me go up kind go ahead.

1606
02:50:54.360 --> 02:51:03.930
Chie Lunn: Just went to say it's really alarming to see how upset our neighbors are with us about this It just shows that it goes it goes back to our councilman.

1607
02:51:04.200 --> 02:51:08.550
Chie Lunn: The fact that we're all CD of 11 and we're fighting like this is just so upsetting.

1608
02:51:08.970 --> 02:51:14.490
Chie Lunn: And we just you know it's just a clear reminder that we need true leadership from the beginning and from the top.

1609
02:51:14.790 --> 02:51:19.680
Chie Lunn: The reason that they're upset and the reason why we even do the things that we're doing is all out of fear and panic.

1610
02:51:20.040 --> 02:51:33.180
Chie Lunn: Because we're all suffering and we're all dealing with this problem together, and so we would never want to do anything that's dividing CD 11 in any kind of way so on a personal level just apologies to our fellow neighbors.

1611
02:51:34.380 --> 02:51:34.800
jim murez: Thank you.

1612
02:51:36.600 --> 02:51:37.740
jim murez: vicki go ahead, please.

1613
02:51:38.310 --> 02:51:51.750
Vicki Halliday: i'm like hi, I would like to apologize to westchester um I think that we are really out of our lane on this one um it's to me beyond.

1614
02:51:52.590 --> 02:52:06.420
Vicki Halliday: emotion that's this complicated and even the amendment, while it's trying it won't cut it um, this is a bigger issue, and I intend to vote no on the amendment and be done with it, thank you.

1615
02:52:06.900 --> 02:52:09.330
jim murez: Thank you vicki Jim rob go ahead, please.

1616
02:52:09.960 --> 02:52:26.640
Jim Robb: yeah I just want to reinforce what NICO Chi and and vicki said apologies to westchester the neighborhood Council on the this needs to be voted down, and we need to work with our neighbors and figure this out the right way, so i'll be voting know as well.

1617
02:52:27.090 --> 02:52:28.830
jim murez: Thank you daffodil go ahead, please.

1618
02:52:30.330 --> 02:52:40.020
Daffodil Tyminski: um i'd like to say, for everyone that's upset with the amendment anyone's free to weigh in and offer an amendment and NICO if you don't like the language, please propose something.

1619
02:52:40.680 --> 02:52:44.430
Daffodil Tyminski: If you like what's happening here in spirit, be my guest.

1620
02:52:45.420 --> 02:52:54.300
Daffodil Tyminski: it's easy to sit back and just be a naysayer but I don't really see anyone raising their hand and the homeless Committee did pass this motion to begin with, so.

1621
02:52:54.600 --> 02:53:06.480
Daffodil Tyminski: The righteous indignation that i'm hearing from everyone now after as it's been pointed out, this went through committee this went through add calm and it went through an extensive discussion, the last board meeting I personally find really rings Hello.

1622
02:53:07.560 --> 02:53:18.510
Daffodil Tyminski: The issue here is Venice has been overburdened with this homeless problem for far too long, and many of our neighbors in the rest of CD 11 have not stepped up.

1623
02:53:19.830 --> 02:53:32.160
Daffodil Tyminski: Unfortunately for westchester they have a lot of land that is usable that could be really usable in a very productive way for everyone, including westchester including including up the westchester park and other areas in that neighborhood.

1624
02:53:32.790 --> 02:53:44.370
Daffodil Tyminski: The spirit of the motion again, as has been discussed in previous meetings was always to try to find city county Federal Land in underutilized areas.

1625
02:53:44.820 --> 02:53:51.150
Daffodil Tyminski: Much of which happens to be near la X, to see if we can actually find a solution to people living on the streets and help them.

1626
02:53:51.600 --> 02:54:01.650
Daffodil Tyminski: So the fact that nobody seems to want to do that, actually, I find just shocking both from westchester, and so the motion is what it is accepted or rejected, I will be voting for it.

1627
02:54:02.730 --> 02:54:06.090
jim murez: Thanks Thank you i'm allie go ahead, please.

1628
02:54:06.690 --> 02:54:13.710
Alley Bean: um yeah I mean def it's I don't think I don't think the spirit of what people are saying is what you're hearing.

1629
02:54:14.070 --> 02:54:17.850
Alley Bean: I think what they're saying is they're listening to the people in westchester speaking and.

1630
02:54:18.180 --> 02:54:27.420
Alley Bean: I did not know, again, I read everything that Clark bro I did not know that there was no outreach with West Chester and I think we're all kind of feeling that that's a little shocking.

1631
02:54:27.780 --> 02:54:36.420
Alley Bean: And we, I think the things that's coming out of this meeting, which is awesome is that we really need to unite with them and do United we stand as the head of their Council said.

1632
02:54:36.810 --> 02:54:46.950
Alley Bean: I agree with that, and so I think, maybe you should personally, you know that you could take this amendment down, and we should go back and and make you know, like.

1633
02:54:48.090 --> 02:54:59.160
Alley Bean: I think what we should do is find a way to work with them and come up with solutions together that could be really powerful but I don't think we could do it in an amendment tonight that's my feeling, so I don't know if you want us to still vote for this.

1634
02:54:59.280 --> 02:54:59.940
But I think if you.

1635
02:55:01.020 --> 02:55:02.340
Daffodil Tyminski: If I may just jump in.

1636
02:55:02.520 --> 02:55:07.560
Daffodil Tyminski: I did work with people in westchester and we did tell them that this is what we're going to do, and this is what they asked us to.

1637
02:55:07.560 --> 02:55:17.340
Daffodil Tyminski: do so now if they have cold feet that's not on me and i've just done with us, I think we've wasted enough time as a board on this issue or.

1638
02:55:17.820 --> 02:55:22.590
Alley Bean: That that's not what they said Okay, the first time i'm hearing that anybody reached out to them.

1639
02:55:23.910 --> 02:55:28.020
jim murez: Okay um Thank you ellie NICO you still have your hand up.

1640
02:55:30.300 --> 02:55:35.310
Nico Ruderman: yeah I mean I I hear what you're saying and I, you know I.

1641
02:55:36.360 --> 02:55:41.910
Nico Ruderman: My understanding is that the visitation site was just removed from the original amendments are from the original.

1642
02:55:45.750 --> 02:55:46.080
jim murez: DEMO.

1643
02:55:46.110 --> 02:55:57.000
Nico Ruderman: The visitation site yeah from the original memo that's um that would suffice, you know, maybe is this this amendment removed that that site.

1644
02:55:59.340 --> 02:55:59.550
Alley Bean: Oh.

1645
02:56:00.600 --> 02:56:03.300
jim murez: This this this amendment removed.

1646
02:56:04.890 --> 02:56:06.510
jim murez: Everything having to do with a memo.

1647
02:56:09.660 --> 02:56:13.110
Nico Ruderman: Okay, so it removes the visitation site that I removed.

1648
02:56:14.820 --> 02:56:15.120
jim murez: It says.

1649
02:56:15.360 --> 02:56:20.880
jim murez: This is still considered it says it's still reading considered the memo.

1650
02:56:22.920 --> 02:56:37.380
jim murez: it's like we're we're we're whir word smithing something that is complicated, it took a lot of time on clark's part to get the words down in the correct sequence and we've spent a lot of time on it already.

1651
02:56:37.980 --> 02:56:53.160
Soledad Ursua: And this is a lot and I like at this point, this is just turning into such a mess, can I withdraw my second, I think that it's going to need to be run, the problem is that there's a lot of sites identified they're just suggestions and it's turned into something else now.

1652
02:56:53.760 --> 02:56:54.090
yeah.

1653
02:56:56.100 --> 02:57:01.380
jim murez: I believe you can, but then we would have to ask if there was anybody else that wanted to second.

1654
02:57:04.380 --> 02:57:10.560
Soledad Ursua: Because if there's then we can't even bring it up for a vote and then we can just move on, because we're going to spend another hour on this.

1655
02:57:11.580 --> 02:57:17.580
Soledad Ursua: And now we're not even sending the memo with all the really detailed you know work of the other good sites.

1656
02:57:19.530 --> 02:57:25.110
jim murez: Okay Well, yes, we can do we can remove you as the second or.

1657
02:57:26.730 --> 02:57:27.390
jim murez: Let me.

1658
02:57:31.350 --> 02:57:39.330
jim murez: Let me ask if anybody else wants to second it do they want to speak up now that I just found a bug in the program there's no way to select the selected.

1659
02:57:40.230 --> 02:57:45.000
Daffodil Tyminski: A gym I realized Melissa who is not a panelist but is on the board.

1660
02:57:46.260 --> 02:57:50.880
Daffodil Tyminski: Has she's not been able to get in as a panelist she had her hand up I didn't she just text me I didn't realize that so.

1661
02:57:52.530 --> 02:57:53.640
jim murez: Do you want to call on her.

1662
02:57:54.480 --> 02:57:56.400
Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead go ahead, Melissa.

1663
02:57:57.360 --> 02:58:03.480
melissa diner : yeah I just want to you know she definitely kind of took the words out of my mouth I think it's our job you guys.

1664
02:58:03.690 --> 02:58:12.540
melissa diner : To try and simplify things and come to consensus right, I think a lot of the public comment and even board comment and i'm guilty of this, too, in the past.

1665
02:58:12.870 --> 02:58:21.150
melissa diner : has turned into us all venting because we're all frustrated we can't send anyone anywhere, we need to remember that these are just recommendations.

1666
02:58:21.390 --> 02:58:37.110
melissa diner : So we don't need to overcomplicate things in no way is this an insult anyone but also it's like if we want to help clarify this in any motion moving forward help clarify it someone else step up and say something that's it, but I think we should just vote in move on.

1667
02:58:39.390 --> 02:58:40.200
jim murez: Thank you, Melissa.

1668
02:58:40.890 --> 02:58:44.400
melissa diner : So in all second day i'll second that if she wants to withdraw.

1669
02:58:46.230 --> 02:58:48.780
jim murez: Okay, so Melissa is second thing.

1670
02:58:50.010 --> 02:58:56.070
jim murez: Because there's a bug in the program the program that I wrote the does these agendas doesn't have a way for me to select the selected.

1671
02:58:57.600 --> 02:58:58.440
jim murez: Motion maker.

1672
02:58:58.710 --> 02:59:01.230
Alley Bean: Can I be less than to have a boat quickly, then.

1673
02:59:01.410 --> 02:59:12.030
jim murez: Yes, I think it's time everybody's had their say, although there's still several hands up i'm not gonna call on them anymore i'm daffodil, how do you vote to the Amended motion.

1674
02:59:12.150 --> 02:59:12.720
Yes.

1675
02:59:17.100 --> 02:59:18.180
jim murez: Melissa, how do you vote.

1676
02:59:19.080 --> 02:59:19.500
Yes.

1677
02:59:21.600 --> 02:59:22.560
jim murez: Andre, how do you vote.

1678
02:59:23.310 --> 02:59:23.730
No.

1679
02:59:25.980 --> 02:59:27.000
jim murez: vicki, how do you vote.

1680
02:59:29.040 --> 02:59:30.030
jim murez: Bruno, how do you vote.

1681
02:59:30.330 --> 02:59:30.780
No.

1682
02:59:32.820 --> 02:59:33.900
jim murez: see my, how do you vote.

1683
02:59:35.070 --> 02:59:35.580
Sima Kostovetsky: No.

1684
02:59:36.780 --> 02:59:37.740
jim murez: NICO, how do you vote.

1685
02:59:39.090 --> 02:59:39.450
Nico Ruderman: No.

1686
02:59:40.890 --> 02:59:42.030
jim murez: Jim rob, how do you vote.

1687
02:59:47.430 --> 02:59:48.390
jim murez: Jim rob, how do you.

1688
02:59:48.540 --> 02:59:50.670
Jim Robb: know no, no, no, no.

1689
02:59:50.790 --> 02:59:52.740
jim murez: Okay sorry sorry alley, how do you vote.

1690
02:59:53.130 --> 02:59:53.700
No.

1691
02:59:55.140 --> 02:59:55.980
jim murez: hi, how do you vote.

1692
02:59:56.250 --> 02:59:58.560
jim murez: Now Mike, how do you vote.

1693
02:59:58.950 --> 02:59:59.370
No.

1694
03:00:00.480 --> 03:00:01.200
jim murez: So it out.

1695
03:00:01.980 --> 03:00:02.400
know.

1696
03:00:03.600 --> 03:00:04.290
jim murez: cj.

1697
03:00:09.600 --> 03:00:10.200
jim murez: Oliver.

1698
03:00:10.410 --> 03:00:12.960
Sima Kostovetsky: Yes, so upset by this.

1699
03:00:14.610 --> 03:00:15.510
jim murez: Elizabeth.

1700
03:00:19.620 --> 03:00:20.220
Elizabeth Clay: Saying staying.

1701
03:00:23.490 --> 03:00:23.970
jim murez: Robert.

1702
03:00:24.480 --> 03:00:24.960
No.

1703
03:00:26.670 --> 03:00:27.180
jim murez: Car.

1704
03:00:27.600 --> 03:00:27.960
No.

1705
03:00:29.400 --> 03:00:34.230
jim murez: And i'm going to vote no also OK so.

1706
03:00:35.520 --> 03:00:40.770
jim murez: The nose carry the motion did not make it we're now back to ground zero.

1707
03:00:41.010 --> 03:00:42.840
Andrea Boccaletti: Jimmy hit up stand for yourself.

1708
03:00:42.960 --> 03:00:45.450
jim murez: Did I know it says no.

1709
03:00:45.840 --> 03:00:48.210
Andrea Boccaletti: i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry I looked at the bottom, sir.

1710
03:00:48.330 --> 03:00:50.070
jim murez: There were two abstentions.

1711
03:00:51.210 --> 03:00:52.050
jim murez: cj.

1712
03:00:53.070 --> 03:00:54.180
jim murez: and

1713
03:00:55.170 --> 03:00:55.860
jim murez: Elizabeth.

1714
03:00:55.950 --> 03:00:56.550
Andrea Boccaletti: you're right i'm sorry.

1715
03:00:57.900 --> 03:00:58.350
jim murez: Okay.

1716
03:00:59.370 --> 03:01:07.560
jim murez: So now we're back to the original motion and does anybody want to make any other motion at this point.

1717
03:01:08.040 --> 03:01:09.840
Ivan: Okay, hang on a minute.

1718
03:01:10.320 --> 03:01:14.010
Ivan: Yes, you need to Riyadh the.

1719
03:01:16.560 --> 03:01:19.380
Ivan: The changes made by using the amendment.

1720
03:01:20.370 --> 03:01:20.940
Ivan: All of that.

1721
03:01:21.330 --> 03:01:22.110
Ivan: But then again.

1722
03:01:22.710 --> 03:01:27.720
jim murez: we're know or the amendment did not make it rain.

1723
03:01:29.370 --> 03:01:30.090
Ivan: motion.

1724
03:01:30.240 --> 03:01:36.240
jim murez: This was the altar this was the alternate motion it's on the screen now, it was voted down.

1725
03:01:36.600 --> 03:01:37.050
Ivan: Right.

1726
03:01:37.110 --> 03:01:39.510
jim murez: But you know motion is still above.

1727
03:01:40.650 --> 03:01:41.940
jim murez: And it has not yet.

1728
03:01:41.970 --> 03:01:43.830
Ivan: been voted on, I see it, okay.

1729
03:01:44.100 --> 03:01:45.810
Ivan: Okay yeah.

1730
03:01:45.990 --> 03:01:47.130
jim murez: we're back to the original.

1731
03:01:47.370 --> 03:01:48.210
Ivan: Full yeah.

1732
03:01:48.240 --> 03:01:49.290
Ivan: So follow Richard.

1733
03:01:49.530 --> 03:01:52.020
jim murez: Thank you, thank you for interrupting okay.

1734
03:01:52.140 --> 03:01:54.570
Alley Bean: And I send to send this back to committee.

1735
03:01:54.810 --> 03:02:06.030
jim murez: We have a motion, let me an alternate motion, let me click on the alternate button and that just generated, but yet one more alternate we're now on the alternate to.

1736
03:02:07.080 --> 03:02:07.770
jim murez: return.

1737
03:02:11.040 --> 03:02:11.760
To come in.

1738
03:02:13.050 --> 03:02:14.040
Jim Robb: Second, that motion.

1739
03:02:14.940 --> 03:02:25.170
jim murez: Okay, so hold on, let me one thing at a time I can't can't move quite that quickly um I gotta find alley there was alley and that sounded like Jim rob was at Jim rob.

1740
03:02:25.500 --> 03:02:32.400
jim murez: Correct Okay, so we have a motion to return to, and I should put in here.

1741
03:02:33.570 --> 03:02:34.650
jim murez: homelessness.

1742
03:02:37.980 --> 03:02:39.060
jim murez: Committee okay.

1743
03:02:40.890 --> 03:02:42.540
jim murez: We have a maker, and the second term.

1744
03:02:43.170 --> 03:02:44.130
jim murez: Point of order on.

1745
03:02:44.670 --> 03:02:48.300
jim murez: hold on hold on port point of where to yeah go ahead and point of order.

1746
03:02:48.420 --> 03:02:51.390
clark brown: This is a question, Jim would emotion, to amend.

1747
03:02:53.190 --> 03:02:57.990
clark brown: The motion take precedence over a motion to send it back to committee.

1748
03:02:58.440 --> 03:02:58.740
Now.

1749
03:03:00.030 --> 03:03:00.870
jim murez: Who said no.

1750
03:03:01.560 --> 03:03:01.980
Ivan: I did.

1751
03:03:02.550 --> 03:03:06.240
jim murez: Thank you Ivan so you everybody needs to identify themselves by name.

1752
03:03:06.270 --> 03:03:06.930
Ivan: i'm sorry.

1753
03:03:07.080 --> 03:03:19.770
jim murez: People in the audience that don't have the screen and and they can't see the little yellow box they don't know who's speaking, and it really makes it difficult, makes it difficult for me when the voices are muffled are too close together, please try and state your name.

1754
03:03:20.820 --> 03:03:30.240
jim murez: Okay, so So the answer was no Clark, we have a motion on the floor and it's been seconded return to committee, do we have any public comment.

1755
03:03:33.810 --> 03:03:44.220
jim murez: Five hands Oh, my goodness okay six hands seven hands going to set a record oh Come on, I know, eight hands.

1756
03:03:45.300 --> 03:03:46.800
Daffodil Tyminski: Give them 30 hands.

1757
03:03:48.000 --> 03:03:48.750
jim murez: daffodil.

1758
03:03:48.870 --> 03:03:50.580
clark brown: i'm sorry no my hands down.

1759
03:03:51.990 --> 03:03:53.370
Daffodil Tyminski: All right, well let's just get through.

1760
03:03:54.300 --> 03:03:54.960
jim murez: get through it.

1761
03:03:57.840 --> 03:04:04.260
Margaret Molloy: Okay, I would say, as I said before you guys spent an inordinate amount of time coming up with this very complicated thing.

1762
03:04:04.620 --> 03:04:24.300
Margaret Molloy: And it's got multiple pages and it only shows me that your priority is just get people out of sight out of sight out of mind, not a CD 11 really shake your head Andrew i'm telling you conclusion and here's your your you know recommendations, they start with enforcement then.

1763
03:04:25.680 --> 03:04:26.370
Daffodil Tyminski: You shouldn't have.

1764
03:04:26.430 --> 03:04:27.870
Daffodil Tyminski: To send this back to committee.

1765
03:04:27.960 --> 03:04:28.500
Margaret Molloy: Sorry i'm.

1766
03:04:28.710 --> 03:04:38.760
Margaret Molloy: telling you what what what the focus has been of all your time and energy and what you need to completely switch up in committee.

1767
03:04:39.630 --> 03:04:54.090
Margaret Molloy: You need to focus on helping people, which starts with the solutions and then enforcement, not the other way around, but it's it's it reeks of this dnc it's all about enforcement, please do a better job, thank you.

1768
03:04:55.200 --> 03:04:58.980
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks for good and Helen fallon go ahead.

1769
03:05:01.950 --> 03:05:09.720
Helen Fallon: On why this might wrap up eventually by sending it back to me, but I do think you might want to put in there, that you do not want to have that visitation a lot.

1770
03:05:09.960 --> 03:05:19.410
Helen Fallon: Included in any way, shape or form and something you're going to recommend to the user almost and countless to the homeless committee, so they don't return it that way.

1771
03:05:24.030 --> 03:05:24.840
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you i'm.

1772
03:05:26.310 --> 03:05:27.990
Daffodil Tyminski: kalani whittington go ahead.

1773
03:05:30.000 --> 03:05:41.730
Kalani Whittington: Hello hello, less than one 10th of 1% of all stakeholders in more than 95% of all neighborhood Councils actually participate.

1774
03:05:42.150 --> 03:06:10.770
Kalani Whittington: In this 20 year failed experiment expensive experiment of participatory democracy called neighborhood Councils and you have just displayed why it's a failure, two and a half hours to get back to your original position, I suggest you table this and move on, because you're not.

1775
03:06:12.090 --> 03:06:16.410
Kalani Whittington: you're not attracting more stakeholder participation, thank you.

1776
03:06:18.660 --> 03:06:19.140
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks.

1777
03:06:20.550 --> 03:06:21.840
Daffodil Tyminski: Lisa redmond go ahead.

1778
03:06:24.000 --> 03:06:35.250
Lisa Redmond: Yes, please vote to send this back to committee, I begged you last month to do that, I said that there were lots of problems with the way this was written I told you about the visitation school, I told you.

1779
03:06:35.490 --> 03:06:47.040
Lisa Redmond: That West Chester was not going to be happy when all but all I could think about was like oh no let's get rid of the problem let's send it to Boston and just ship people away that's not how problems are solved.

1780
03:06:47.430 --> 03:06:54.720
Lisa Redmond: Please send this back to committee, and maybe we might be able to think of something smart instead of spending hours at our meeting tonight.

1781
03:06:55.830 --> 03:06:57.930
Lisa Redmond: send it back thanks Lisa.

1782
03:06:59.040 --> 03:07:00.600
Daffodil Tyminski: Paula gerunds go ahead.

1783
03:07:03.240 --> 03:07:22.080
Paula Gerez: Thank you um I would urge you to send this back to committee and I will come collaborating on something that works for both of our communities as well as the larger greater West side in really solving this problem and working together as neighbors which we are Thank you.

1784
03:07:23.850 --> 03:07:24.870
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks a lot Paula.

1785
03:07:27.300 --> 03:07:28.350
Daffodil Tyminski: Erica more go ahead.

1786
03:07:41.160 --> 03:07:41.730
Daffodil Tyminski: Are you there.

1787
03:07:50.910 --> 03:07:54.480
Daffodil Tyminski: Alright, I don't see Erica Jim let's close public comment and go to the board.

1788
03:07:55.380 --> 03:07:59.550
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, and Melissa has her hand up by the way, so let's call them alyssa first.

1789
03:07:59.550 --> 03:08:01.740
jim murez: let's call him, Melissa first Melissa go ahead.

1790
03:08:03.870 --> 03:08:20.010
melissa diner : And just a couple things like if this is going to get sent back to committee, like, how is it going to be what this was pulled off for which is the collaboration with West Chester and who's going to have that up i'm just wondering if one of the volunteers that.

1791
03:08:21.060 --> 03:08:32.130
melissa diner : voted no on this or that was you know, taking a lead on this could help whatever committee chair in doing that, if that's the goal to collaborate with them and then also just for.

1792
03:08:33.090 --> 03:08:39.570
melissa diner : board members that may have more information or foresight, like at the beginning, when we approve our agenda.

1793
03:08:39.870 --> 03:08:52.440
melissa diner : If we don't want to waste all this time we can cut the agenda and change things, then, if we think that certain items shouldn't be heard so let's utilize that if we can, to be more efficient moving forward, thank you.

1794
03:08:54.090 --> 03:08:57.090
jim murez: Thank you, Melissa who's the next one i'm see ma.

1795
03:08:57.180 --> 03:08:57.570
ma.

1796
03:08:58.770 --> 03:09:02.700
Sima Kostovetsky: i'm so point of order, right now, we're voting to send us back to committee.

1797
03:09:02.850 --> 03:09:03.570
jim murez: that's correct.

1798
03:09:04.020 --> 03:09:04.770
So.

1799
03:09:05.790 --> 03:09:09.840
Sima Kostovetsky: If i'm looking at the motion from last meeting and its entirety.

1800
03:09:10.410 --> 03:09:27.690
Sima Kostovetsky: And it seems to be, and again I don't know if we want to do this right now, at the meeting or, if you want to do it at the committee, but it seems like we can just strike out the issue that's at hand and not have to nullify the entire motion is that not something that we can do currently.

1801
03:09:29.280 --> 03:09:32.160
Daffodil Tyminski: it's very complicated a long time.

1802
03:09:32.190 --> 03:09:40.980
Sima Kostovetsky: No, no, I voted against that particular one because that seemed to be all encompassing i'm talking about two particular things that we can red line.

1803
03:09:41.250 --> 03:09:43.770
Ivan: which actually does ocean on the floor to.

1804
03:09:43.770 --> 03:09:45.240
Jim Robb: set a motion on the floor.

1805
03:09:45.300 --> 03:09:48.360
Sima Kostovetsky: takes precedence and be a part of the consideration when we.

1806
03:09:48.360 --> 03:09:49.620
Sima Kostovetsky: Say committee.

1807
03:09:50.100 --> 03:09:58.500
Ivan: If you want to change it, then both this motion down to send it to somebody and propose a change you can't do it in the middle of emotion.

1808
03:09:58.770 --> 03:10:01.140
Sima Kostovetsky: Well that's what i'm asking, is it possible that we.

1809
03:10:01.140 --> 03:10:02.130
Sima Kostovetsky: Go direction.

1810
03:10:02.730 --> 03:10:03.510
jim murez: No, no.

1811
03:10:03.600 --> 03:10:03.960
Okay.

1812
03:10:06.030 --> 03:10:06.960
Ivan: Sorry fema.

1813
03:10:07.590 --> 03:10:12.840
jim murez: Put your hand down Sema okay any other hands up I don't see any other hands let's take a vote.

1814
03:10:15.390 --> 03:10:15.930
jim murez: i'm.

1815
03:10:17.040 --> 03:10:18.450
jim murez: daffodils.

1816
03:10:18.510 --> 03:10:19.110
Yes.

1817
03:10:22.500 --> 03:10:23.220
jim murez: Melissa.

1818
03:10:25.650 --> 03:10:25.980
melissa diner : Yes.

1819
03:10:27.990 --> 03:10:28.530
jim murez: Andre.

1820
03:10:29.820 --> 03:10:30.360
Andrea Boccaletti: Yes.

1821
03:10:31.050 --> 03:10:31.620
vicki.

1822
03:10:37.680 --> 03:10:38.250
jim murez: Bruno.

1823
03:10:38.550 --> 03:10:39.060
Yes.

1824
03:10:42.300 --> 03:10:42.840
Sima Kostovetsky: Yes.

1825
03:10:44.250 --> 03:10:44.880
jim murez: NICO.

1826
03:10:45.840 --> 03:10:46.260
Yes.

1827
03:10:47.640 --> 03:10:48.420
jim murez: Jim rob.

1828
03:10:49.980 --> 03:10:51.000
Jim Robb: Yes, please.

1829
03:10:52.650 --> 03:10:53.220
jim murez: ellie.

1830
03:10:53.670 --> 03:10:54.180
Yes.

1831
03:10:56.010 --> 03:10:56.520
jim murez: Okay.

1832
03:10:57.060 --> 03:10:59.010
jim murez: Yes, Mike.

1833
03:10:59.490 --> 03:11:01.500
jim murez: Yes, soda.

1834
03:11:01.920 --> 03:11:03.900
jim murez: Yes, cj.

1835
03:11:04.200 --> 03:11:04.830
Yes.

1836
03:11:06.900 --> 03:11:08.520
jim murez: trick me all of her.

1837
03:11:08.820 --> 03:11:09.270
Yes.

1838
03:11:10.890 --> 03:11:11.730
jim murez: Elizabeth.

1839
03:11:12.960 --> 03:11:13.500
Elizabeth Clay: Yes.

1840
03:11:14.730 --> 03:11:15.270
jim murez: Robert.

1841
03:11:15.690 --> 03:11:16.200
Yes.

1842
03:11:17.370 --> 03:11:17.970
jim murez: Clark.

1843
03:11:18.270 --> 03:11:18.750
know.

1844
03:11:20.700 --> 03:11:28.320
jim murez: And i'm going to vote yes, so the motion carries i'm.

1845
03:11:29.670 --> 03:11:32.910
jim murez: 17 one zero.

1846
03:11:34.680 --> 03:11:40.710
jim murez: i'm going to go up here and quickly timestamp this, so we have a record of when we finished.

1847
03:11:44.700 --> 03:11:55.530
jim murez: Okay, great um now you took that out of order, thank you, West Chester folks for showing up at our meeting sorry it took so long to to get through all of this.

1848
03:11:56.100 --> 03:11:58.980
jim murez: will do better that's, all I can say we will do better.

1849
03:12:00.630 --> 03:12:01.470
Andrea Boccaletti: Thank you yeah.

1850
03:12:02.220 --> 03:12:05.520
jim murez: i'm okay so we're back here to.

1851
03:12:05.520 --> 03:12:07.650
jim murez: Approving the.

1852
03:12:07.980 --> 03:12:10.260
jim murez: minutes of the prior meeting.

1853
03:12:11.580 --> 03:12:13.230
jim murez: Can I get a maker, please.

1854
03:12:13.860 --> 03:12:14.640
Andrea Boccaletti: Make the motion.

1855
03:12:15.420 --> 03:12:19.110
jim murez: And that will be for the December 21 board meeting.

1856
03:12:20.850 --> 03:12:23.190
jim murez: Second thing anybody second.

1857
03:12:25.650 --> 03:12:26.100
Jim Robb: I will.

1858
03:12:26.820 --> 03:12:27.570
jim murez: Who was that.

1859
03:12:27.900 --> 03:12:30.240
jim murez: Jim brown Thank you Jim rob.

1860
03:12:30.480 --> 03:12:31.050
Andrea Boccaletti: As we got.

1861
03:12:31.080 --> 03:12:32.850
Andrea Boccaletti: People, we have to say, its first.

1862
03:12:32.910 --> 03:12:33.390
Andrea Boccaletti: come in just.

1863
03:12:33.810 --> 03:12:38.340
jim murez: Make it OK, we have a maker in a second, or do we have any public comment.

1864
03:12:39.420 --> 03:12:41.070
jim murez: We have two hands up deaf adult.

1865
03:12:41.370 --> 03:12:44.670
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, we do Eric and more up.

1866
03:12:45.840 --> 03:12:48.600
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, Erica now Yolanda go ahead.

1867
03:12:59.370 --> 03:13:03.660
jim murez: folks it's nine o'clock if you have your hand up let's be ready.

1868
03:13:03.990 --> 03:13:05.100
Ivan: No public comment.

1869
03:13:06.300 --> 03:13:06.930
jim murez: There isn't.

1870
03:13:07.650 --> 03:13:11.370
Ivan: No, the only thing you can do is change or remove something.

1871
03:13:11.700 --> 03:13:13.080
Ivan: Those no comment.

1872
03:13:13.080 --> 03:13:13.410
Ivan: on it.

1873
03:13:13.770 --> 03:13:15.270
jim murez: there's no public comments sorry I.

1874
03:13:15.270 --> 03:13:17.220
Ivan: Just no record of what people said.

1875
03:13:17.970 --> 03:13:27.600
jim murez: Okay, so does anybody on the on the board have anything to say everybody can put their hands down does anybody have any anybody on the board have anything to say about the Minutes.

1876
03:13:30.540 --> 03:13:32.370
jim murez: Okay, no comment let's take a vote.

1877
03:13:33.900 --> 03:13:35.040
jim murez: daffodil, how do you vote.

1878
03:13:40.080 --> 03:13:40.770
jim murez: daffodil.

1879
03:13:44.520 --> 03:13:46.230
melissa diner : Come back to her, I thought, yes.

1880
03:13:48.930 --> 03:13:49.260
jim murez: Yes.

1881
03:13:49.830 --> 03:13:51.150
jim murez: Yes, vicki.

1882
03:13:51.690 --> 03:13:52.080
Yes.

1883
03:13:53.160 --> 03:13:54.570
Bruno Hernandez: or no yes.

1884
03:13:55.440 --> 03:13:56.130
Sema.

1885
03:13:57.840 --> 03:13:58.410
Sima Kostovetsky: Yes.

1886
03:13:59.130 --> 03:13:59.730
NICO.

1887
03:14:01.440 --> 03:14:02.010
Sima Kostovetsky: Yes.

1888
03:14:02.760 --> 03:14:04.350
Jim Robb: Jim rob yes.

1889
03:14:05.340 --> 03:14:06.810
Alley Bean: Ali yes.

1890
03:14:08.580 --> 03:14:09.120
Chie Lunn: Yes.

1891
03:14:09.870 --> 03:14:12.810
jim murez: Mike yes so.

1892
03:14:14.040 --> 03:14:14.580
Soledad Ursua: Yes.

1893
03:14:15.570 --> 03:14:16.320
cj.

1894
03:14:19.800 --> 03:14:20.430
jim murez: Oliver.

1895
03:14:20.700 --> 03:14:20.970
Yes.

1896
03:14:22.290 --> 03:14:23.040
jim murez: Elizabeth.

1897
03:14:23.820 --> 03:14:24.270
Yes.

1898
03:14:25.980 --> 03:14:26.310
jim murez: Robert.

1899
03:14:26.940 --> 03:14:27.480
s.

1900
03:14:29.070 --> 03:14:30.330
clark brown: Clark yes.

1901
03:14:31.350 --> 03:14:34.320
jim murez: And I will vote yes.

1902
03:14:37.680 --> 03:14:40.380
jim murez: So the motion carries.

1903
03:14:41.580 --> 03:14:44.790
jim murez: 16 01 daffodil are you back.

1904
03:14:48.810 --> 03:14:50.580
jim murez: Okay daffodils not here.

1905
03:14:52.110 --> 03:14:52.830
jim murez: i'm.

1906
03:14:55.230 --> 03:14:59.070
jim murez: Approval of prior minutes for January I need a maker.

1907
03:15:02.850 --> 03:15:03.900
Alley Bean: i'll make the motion.

1908
03:15:04.380 --> 03:15:05.070
Jim Robb: i'll second it.

1909
03:15:05.550 --> 03:15:06.540
jim murez: Who was that alley.

1910
03:15:07.140 --> 03:15:09.030
jim murez: Yes, Okay, and the second.

1911
03:15:09.360 --> 03:15:09.990
Jim Robb: gym rah.

1912
03:15:13.110 --> 03:15:14.400
jim murez: rah very good.

1913
03:15:15.690 --> 03:15:19.710
jim murez: And let's take a vote does anybody have any comments about it before we take the boat.

1914
03:15:22.170 --> 03:15:24.780
jim murez: Seeing none daffodil are you back.

1915
03:15:25.920 --> 03:15:33.120
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, I just sorry I got knocked off, but didn't get the last meeting we not approve minutes.

1916
03:15:33.150 --> 03:15:33.570
Daffodil Tyminski: from you.

1917
03:15:34.410 --> 03:15:35.340
jim murez: You weren't here just.

1918
03:15:35.370 --> 03:15:36.210
jim murez: Okay well.

1919
03:15:36.690 --> 03:15:38.010
jim murez: That was the December one.

1920
03:15:38.190 --> 03:15:38.580
Daffodil Tyminski: got it.

1921
03:15:38.640 --> 03:15:42.930
jim murez: Okay we're here and we took care of the December one already now we're doing the January.

1922
03:15:42.930 --> 03:15:45.090
Daffodil Tyminski: One apologies, yes, approved.

1923
03:15:45.420 --> 03:15:48.300
jim murez: So you're voting yes yeah okay.

1924
03:15:49.380 --> 03:15:49.980
Daffodil Tyminski: Sorry, I don't know.

1925
03:15:52.260 --> 03:15:53.250
jim murez: Melissa, how do you vote.

1926
03:15:53.640 --> 03:15:54.030
Yes.

1927
03:15:55.980 --> 03:15:56.850
jim murez: Andre, how do you vote.

1928
03:15:56.910 --> 03:15:58.590
jim murez: Yes, vicki.

1929
03:15:59.220 --> 03:16:00.930
jim murez: Yes or no.

1930
03:16:01.080 --> 03:16:03.000
jim murez: Yes, seema.

1931
03:16:05.850 --> 03:16:06.360
jim murez: seema.

1932
03:16:07.740 --> 03:16:08.340
jim murez: NICO.

1933
03:16:09.660 --> 03:16:10.380
Nico Ruderman: Yes.

1934
03:16:12.450 --> 03:16:13.140
jim murez: Jim rob.

1935
03:16:13.500 --> 03:16:13.980
Yes.

1936
03:16:15.570 --> 03:16:16.140
jim murez: Le.

1937
03:16:16.320 --> 03:16:17.040
Yes.

1938
03:16:23.670 --> 03:16:24.240
Chie Lunn: Yes.

1939
03:16:25.230 --> 03:16:26.820
Mike Bravo: Mike yes.

1940
03:16:29.040 --> 03:16:29.550
Soledad Ursua: Yes.

1941
03:16:30.300 --> 03:16:35.310
CJ Cole: cj i'm staying from this one, can I vote on the one before.

1942
03:16:35.550 --> 03:16:36.870
jim murez: yeah we've already passed it.

1943
03:16:37.020 --> 03:16:37.590
Okay.

1944
03:16:38.910 --> 03:16:39.510
jim murez: Oliver.

1945
03:16:39.810 --> 03:16:40.200
Yes.

1946
03:16:41.880 --> 03:16:42.600
jim murez: Elizabeth.

1947
03:16:43.470 --> 03:16:43.980
Yes.

1948
03:16:45.810 --> 03:16:46.650
jim murez: Robert tippett oh.

1949
03:16:46.950 --> 03:16:48.930
jim murez: Yes, Clark.

1950
03:16:49.320 --> 03:16:49.680
Yes.

1951
03:16:51.510 --> 03:17:00.900
jim murez: And I will vote yes as well, I want to timestamp this, so we can keep record of how long it took to get through it.

1952
03:17:02.940 --> 03:17:05.520
jim murez: And now we're on to the treasurer's report.

1953
03:17:12.120 --> 03:17:15.870
Andrea Boccaletti: Well, the treasurer's report is going to be short and sweet.

1954
03:17:17.370 --> 03:17:31.140
Andrea Boccaletti: We did not receive receipts, that we should have received for expenditures, so I wasn't we were not able to generate a monthly expenditure report and.

1955
03:17:32.790 --> 03:17:40.620
Andrea Boccaletti: We did not have a meeting because there was nothing to discuss at the meeting, so we are going to be back next month, having to approve.

1956
03:17:41.220 --> 03:17:56.700
Andrea Boccaletti: To month expenditure reports, if I get all the receipts on time for things that have been spent, so please i'm trying to do my job as methodically as possible and they're putting everything in that I need to do I need the receipts.

1957
03:17:57.660 --> 03:18:01.980
jim murez: And I just noticed a mistake, this should only say January right.

1958
03:18:03.090 --> 03:18:06.480
Andrea Boccaletti: Okay, so we'll have to monthly expenditure reports to.

1959
03:18:06.510 --> 03:18:07.140
jim murez: Next month.

1960
03:18:08.070 --> 03:18:10.170
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, we have no motion here.

1961
03:18:10.800 --> 03:18:11.760
jim murez: there's no motion.

1962
03:18:12.090 --> 03:18:12.570
Okay.

1963
03:18:17.100 --> 03:18:24.000
jim murez: Item 13 announcements and public comment on items, not on the agenda.

1964
03:18:27.570 --> 03:18:32.280
Daffodil Tyminski: So if you are a member of the public and you'd like to make a statement about something on the agenda put your hand up now.

1965
03:18:37.590 --> 03:18:39.600
Daffodil Tyminski: i'll just begin calling it Jim.

1966
03:18:39.990 --> 03:18:43.140
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, you know you have to make me co host again sorry because I got knocked.

1967
03:18:43.140 --> 03:18:44.340
jim murez: off oh sorry.

1968
03:18:47.520 --> 03:18:50.910
jim murez: let's see if I can do that from here, make co host there you go.

1969
03:18:55.140 --> 03:18:56.130
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay i'm.

1970
03:18:57.570 --> 03:18:58.650
Daffodil Tyminski: Yolanda go ahead.

1971
03:19:00.600 --> 03:19:01.650
Yolanda Gonzalez: Am I unmuted.

1972
03:19:02.220 --> 03:19:03.300
Daffodil Tyminski: You are unmuted.

1973
03:19:03.660 --> 03:19:10.560
Yolanda Gonzalez: Okay, great yes, I am going to be at the farmers market on Friday, because i'm going to pass out.

1974
03:19:11.040 --> 03:19:22.290
Yolanda Gonzalez: Registration vote applications I want people to understand, we have a lot of new stakeholders, if you are registered even within the city of Los Angeles, and another.

1975
03:19:23.010 --> 03:19:32.130
Yolanda Gonzalez: Another district, you must vote, you must re register to vote into our district, which is CD 11.

1976
03:19:32.610 --> 03:19:44.910
Yolanda Gonzalez: You cannot be within another district to vote outside of our CD 11, so I will be out there just passing them out, you can mail them in or given back to me and i'll be more than happy to turn them in Thank you.

1977
03:19:49.620 --> 03:19:52.020
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank thanks Yolanda Margaret go ahead.

1978
03:19:54.450 --> 03:19:57.030
Margaret Molloy: So, if any of you been.

1979
03:20:00.960 --> 03:20:01.470
Daffodil Tyminski: Margaret.

1980
03:20:04.470 --> 03:20:05.100
jim murez: died.

1981
03:20:05.730 --> 03:20:14.610
Margaret Molloy: yeah that was weird if any of you have been to the Venice library for the month of February and March there will, there is an exhibit of Venice black history.

1982
03:20:15.000 --> 03:20:33.210
Margaret Molloy: it's beautiful it's presented by save Venice and there is a celebration on the steps of the first Baptist church on the 19th and speakers will be from 10am to noon and then Community open MIC so it's music and speakers and.

1983
03:20:34.320 --> 03:20:34.620
Ivan: His.

1984
03:20:37.890 --> 03:20:51.210
Margaret Molloy: Its color appalling that the Venice chamber of commerce has never picked this up never promoted this awareness and the dnc, to my knowledge hasn't done that either so it's a great opportunity.

1985
03:20:51.750 --> 03:20:52.770
Daffodil Tyminski: Can you give us the data.

1986
03:20:53.460 --> 03:21:02.670
Margaret Molloy: Margaret the black Venice black history exhibit is at the library through the end of March it's in the lobby.

1987
03:21:03.030 --> 03:21:15.660
Margaret Molloy: Okay, and the event is that the first Baptist church from 10am to noon, with the speakers and then you know informal Community open MIC Saturday the 19th next Saturday.

1988
03:21:16.170 --> 03:21:16.920
Daffodil Tyminski: gotcha Thank you.

1989
03:21:17.190 --> 03:21:18.900
Margaret Molloy: Music and more Thank you.

1990
03:21:19.200 --> 03:21:22.830
Daffodil Tyminski: awesome i'm worried vanderhoek.

1991
03:21:28.140 --> 03:21:28.650
Daffodil Tyminski: Right.

1992
03:21:34.440 --> 03:21:34.860
Daffodil Tyminski: there.

1993
03:21:38.880 --> 03:21:42.600
Daffodil Tyminski: Alright, for the moment let's move on kalani whittington go ahead.

1994
03:21:44.100 --> 03:21:47.670
Kalani Whittington: Well, I will have, first of all i'd like to remind everyone California.

1995
03:21:47.700 --> 03:21:50.070
Kalani Whittington: is in the middle of a mega drought.

1996
03:21:50.400 --> 03:22:00.750
Kalani Whittington: And I also would like to say, oh trees are the worst trees for droughts, they consume a lot of water, and they are also bad for our sidewalks.

1997
03:22:01.080 --> 03:22:13.860
Kalani Whittington: Because they have shallow roots and they are not indigenous to California The second thing i'd like to talk about are illegal street vendors, I noticed a lot of illegal street vendors taking up.

1998
03:22:14.910 --> 03:22:25.980
Kalani Whittington: Space on our sidewalks they are illegal and they also are our lighting fires in charcoal bins fires on our sidewalks are he legal are our.

1999
03:22:26.490 --> 03:22:41.160
Kalani Whittington: leaders need to clamp down on illegal street vendors less than 20 street vendors bought licenses out of 10,000 the city needs to do something about that, and once again I do.

2000
03:22:41.220 --> 03:22:49.650
Kalani Whittington: question why we need neighborhood consoles if less than one 10th of 1% of stakeholders actually go.

2001
03:22:50.040 --> 03:22:50.640
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you.

2002
03:22:51.870 --> 03:22:53.070
Daffodil Tyminski: Lisa redmond go ahead.

2003
03:22:55.110 --> 03:23:02.760
Lisa Redmond: yeah I have a couple issues first this is month eight of your 24 month term.

2004
03:23:03.330 --> 03:23:15.090
Lisa Redmond: And so that's 33% of your term is gone already, and there are board members who are still not on committees, even though your bylaws say you must be on a committee.

2005
03:23:15.930 --> 03:23:20.310
Lisa Redmond: There are some that are on committees that never meet, but there are at least on committees, some are not.

2006
03:23:21.060 --> 03:23:23.700
Lisa Redmond: So I would urge that that get taken care of right away.

2007
03:23:24.150 --> 03:23:33.420
Lisa Redmond: Also, because I can speak on any item of interest is within the subject matter of the Agency and my brown act also allows me to speak on all agenda item.

2008
03:23:33.780 --> 03:23:45.210
Lisa Redmond: I find it highly unethical the gym who is running for City Council member position is appointing a task force to run a candidate for.

2009
03:23:45.750 --> 03:23:57.870
Lisa Redmond: absolutely wrong, I wish Freddie was still on the line to talk about that you couldn't do the form as a homeless committee, so I don't know why you think he can his account, as a community so that's it.

2010
03:23:58.200 --> 03:23:58.980
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Lisa.

2011
03:24:00.510 --> 03:24:01.860
Daffodil Tyminski: Helen felon go ahead.

2012
03:24:04.500 --> 03:24:11.250
Helen Fallon: Yes, we have experienced board officers and i'm referring to the officers, not the at large people.

2013
03:24:11.730 --> 03:24:20.940
Helen Fallon: And yet, some of these board officers are continually continuously giving out misinformation about the bylaws about the rules about the procedures.

2014
03:24:21.390 --> 03:24:25.740
Helen Fallon: And they're also being rude and patronizing towards the public, and other board members.

2015
03:24:26.070 --> 03:24:40.740
Helen Fallon: You know there's no excuse for this, and these are officers who all as individuals have served on the board before they should know how things work, they should know how to behave under the code of conduct and frankly German sure doesn't reflect well on you, since you picked them.

2016
03:24:44.790 --> 03:24:47.580
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you Helen Erica more go ahead.

2017
03:24:49.380 --> 03:24:50.640
Erica Moore: hi there can you hear me.

2018
03:24:51.000 --> 03:24:55.710
Erica Moore: yeah Okay, you know what that last time, the unmute thing ever came up on my screen.

2019
03:24:56.130 --> 03:25:05.370
Erica Moore: Okay anyways I wanted to thank Barbara for letting us know about that event, this weekend, and I agree with you that everybody should be promoting that and I want, and in that spirit.

2020
03:25:05.700 --> 03:25:11.760
Erica Moore: I want to remind everybody again about the emergency preparedness town hall is on the 23rd.

2021
03:25:12.420 --> 03:25:20.550
Erica Moore: that's coming up very fast and i'm very disheartened that after I asked the other day, and it hasn't been brought forward to a few people on this board.

2022
03:25:20.880 --> 03:25:33.030
Erica Moore: That you guys are not promoting it on the website, I know, everybody doesn't go to the website, but that's the starting point and I have provided the flyer there's a newer flyer that has the actual link.

2023
03:25:33.450 --> 03:25:39.900
Erica Moore: But if people don't know about it, people can't attend, and this is something that is for all of our safety okay there's a lot of.

2024
03:25:40.650 --> 03:25:52.230
Erica Moore: Great pros that are going to be there, speaking, so please, please get this uploaded I don't think it's that difficult to upload this flyer and also upload that you know the information on the callen thanks you guys.

2025
03:25:52.410 --> 03:25:56.730
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you okay we're vanderhoek will go back to you one more time, are you there.

2026
03:26:01.230 --> 03:26:04.110
Roy van de Hoek: i'm here can you hear me yes.

2027
03:26:04.290 --> 03:26:05.970
Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead your last public comment.

2028
03:26:06.960 --> 03:26:17.820
Roy van de Hoek: Okay, thank you, my name is Roy vanderhoek and i'm a wildlife biologist and i've worked in the federal government state and city and county and environmental science and education and.

2029
03:26:19.650 --> 03:26:34.770
Roy van de Hoek: i've been studying this area's wildlife in the urban nature foundry seashore that for 22 years now, and I want to say a few words about the Viola go and marine preserve and the wildlife.

2030
03:26:35.850 --> 03:26:43.950
Roy van de Hoek: That you know the Viola good marine preserve the you go North becomes grand canal and then crosses at Washington boulevard and becomes your Venice canals.

2031
03:26:44.370 --> 03:26:50.910
Roy van de Hoek: which I still like to call the Amsterdam canals of Venice, but I don't know if you've noticed that Canada goose flocks.

2032
03:26:51.360 --> 03:27:02.310
Roy van de Hoek: are flying over your neighborhood sometimes and you're hearing honking and that's because they're year round, now, and they spend part of the year at the golf course partner, the airport.

2033
03:27:02.730 --> 03:27:03.660
Daffodil Tyminski: In seconds right.

2034
03:27:03.720 --> 03:27:07.440
Roy van de Hoek: So God that's it i'll see more next time bye.

2035
03:27:08.160 --> 03:27:09.780
Daffodil Tyminski: Alright, thanks very.

2036
03:27:13.560 --> 03:27:15.000
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay that's it for public comment.

2037
03:27:15.780 --> 03:27:17.460
jim murez: We are a radio in the background.

2038
03:27:17.850 --> 03:27:19.530
Daffodil Tyminski: I believe that was rice radio.

2039
03:27:19.800 --> 03:27:20.220
jim murez: Okay.

2040
03:27:20.430 --> 03:27:20.850
we're good.

2041
03:27:22.200 --> 03:27:26.580
jim murez: um Okay, so we finished that.

2042
03:27:33.450 --> 03:27:36.270
jim murez: We now move past this one.

2043
03:27:37.980 --> 03:27:52.230
jim murez: General consent items we don't have any of those we don't have any loop that consent items we have new business, so we have a selection of a new loop Pack.

2044
03:27:54.210 --> 03:28:07.500
jim murez: chair, who also will become a board member there was only one application received so by affirmation we just basically have to end, do we need to take a vote on this Ivan or do we just.

2045
03:28:08.550 --> 03:28:08.910
Oliver Fries: He said.

2046
03:28:09.300 --> 03:28:11.880
Ivan: yeah it's definitely yes or no vote.

2047
03:28:12.120 --> 03:28:14.130
Ivan: Because okay why affirmation.

2048
03:28:15.330 --> 03:28:18.060
jim murez: Okay, so we don't need a maker or a second or any of that.

2049
03:28:18.090 --> 03:28:20.610
Ivan: Oh yeah somebody has to move yeah.

2050
03:28:21.090 --> 03:28:23.280
jim murez: Okay, so somebody want to move to.

2051
03:28:24.540 --> 03:28:26.160
Vicki Halliday: vicki will make the motion.

2052
03:28:26.880 --> 03:28:29.430
jim murez: Thank you vicki we have a second.

2053
03:28:32.520 --> 03:28:32.820
Daffodil Tyminski: Oh.

2054
03:28:33.300 --> 03:28:34.020
jim murez: Who is our.

2055
03:28:35.190 --> 03:28:36.060
jim murez: We need a second.

2056
03:28:36.600 --> 03:28:37.920
Daffodil Tyminski: it's daffodil all second.

2057
03:28:38.310 --> 03:28:38.700
jim murez: Thank you.

2058
03:28:40.290 --> 03:28:43.500
jim murez: Okay, why don't believe what do we need to take public comment on this.

2059
03:28:44.760 --> 03:28:45.120
jim murez: Ivan.

2060
03:28:47.700 --> 03:28:55.920
Ivan: it's just one person running right so really the only going to be a yes or no vote, you can do it if you want, but I don't.

2061
03:28:55.920 --> 03:28:58.770
jim murez: know I don't want to it's getting late it's already 921.

2062
03:28:58.770 --> 03:28:59.310
jim murez: Okay well.

2063
03:29:00.360 --> 03:29:04.320
jim murez: So i'm going to let's start off the voting data don't go ahead, please.

2064
03:29:05.430 --> 03:29:06.630
Daffodil Tyminski: um yes.

2065
03:29:07.980 --> 03:29:08.520
jim murez: Melissa.

2066
03:29:11.850 --> 03:29:12.480
jim murez: Melissa.

2067
03:29:13.620 --> 03:29:15.120
Ivan: i'm Jim.

2068
03:29:15.330 --> 03:29:19.050
Ivan: Yes, yeah i'm sorry to break in here here.

2069
03:29:20.100 --> 03:29:20.460
jim murez: Oh.

2070
03:29:20.760 --> 03:29:22.410
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, online.

2071
03:29:24.300 --> 03:29:25.470
Ivan: Could you give him a minute.

2072
03:29:25.500 --> 03:29:28.110
Ivan: Maybe to sure what gets introduced himself.

2073
03:29:28.260 --> 03:29:29.970
Ivan: Sure okay.

2074
03:29:30.030 --> 03:29:31.320
jim murez: i'll rewind this.

2075
03:29:31.950 --> 03:29:33.000
Michael Jensen: I can't rewind it.

2076
03:29:33.000 --> 03:29:33.630
jim murez: But anyway.

2077
03:29:33.660 --> 03:29:34.050
Okay.

2078
03:29:35.130 --> 03:29:37.080
jim murez: Do you want to promote him daffodil.

2079
03:29:37.470 --> 03:29:41.100
Daffodil Tyminski: I did not promote him as a panelist but I did allow him to talk, but I.

2080
03:29:41.280 --> 03:29:41.490
jim murez: want to.

2081
03:29:42.090 --> 03:29:43.050
jim murez: promote him as a pep.

2082
03:29:43.290 --> 03:29:44.340
Michael Jensen: Talk hi everyone.

2083
03:29:44.760 --> 03:29:46.590
Daffodil Tyminski: I just promoted him as a panelist.

2084
03:29:46.620 --> 03:29:50.220
jim murez: yeah let everybody see his face that way everybody if you.

2085
03:29:50.430 --> 03:29:51.270
Daffodil Tyminski: may want to stop.

2086
03:29:51.300 --> 03:29:55.560
Daffodil Tyminski: Sharing your I don't know how it's appearing for everyone else, but you may want to stop sharing your screen.

2087
03:29:55.830 --> 03:29:56.640
jim murez: I can do that.

2088
03:30:00.870 --> 03:30:01.950
jim murez: you're muted.

2089
03:30:03.900 --> 03:30:04.950
jim murez: unmute yourself.

2090
03:30:06.780 --> 03:30:08.070
jim murez: There we go everyone.

2091
03:30:09.180 --> 03:30:12.090
Michael Jensen: Good evening, I guess, I am the.

2092
03:30:13.710 --> 03:30:27.990
Michael Jensen: The only candidate for this, but I guess i'll just say that I have been on the committee as a Member for five years, I think I have some good ideas of how to get this committee back to being productive and processing cases and bringing.

2093
03:30:29.250 --> 03:30:34.110
Michael Jensen: You know brief staff report, so you guys don't have to do the heavy lifting on going through stuff.

2094
03:30:35.550 --> 03:30:39.180
Michael Jensen: And with that I hope I have your vote, and if you have any questions i'll stay on.

2095
03:30:42.150 --> 03:30:43.110
jim murez: Okay, thank you.

2096
03:30:45.180 --> 03:30:50.370
jim murez: um let me go back to screen sharing.

2097
03:30:52.500 --> 03:30:55.950
jim murez: And I think Melissa may need to recuse herself.

2098
03:30:57.630 --> 03:31:00.720
jim murez: i'm Melissa do you need to recuse yourself.

2099
03:31:11.160 --> 03:31:15.750
Daffodil Tyminski: I believe, for whatever quirk of zoom there is Melissa is unable to be promoted to a panelist.

2100
03:31:16.710 --> 03:31:17.160
jim murez: Why is.

2101
03:31:17.940 --> 03:31:20.820
Daffodil Tyminski: I now I don't know it's just a weird thing that's happening.

2102
03:31:26.190 --> 03:31:27.780
jim murez: Okay anyway daffodil.

2103
03:31:29.370 --> 03:31:31.620
jim murez: Yes, you voted yes Okay, Melissa is.

2104
03:31:33.450 --> 03:31:35.340
Daffodil Tyminski: able to talk she's not a panelist so.

2105
03:31:35.340 --> 03:31:36.060
Daffodil Tyminski: You can see here.

2106
03:31:36.690 --> 03:31:39.990
jim murez: Melissa she just texted me she wanted to recuse.

2107
03:31:40.350 --> 03:31:43.860
jim murez: Okay i'm on Andre, how do you vote guess.

2108
03:31:47.190 --> 03:31:47.760
vicki.

2109
03:31:49.650 --> 03:31:50.130
jim murez: Bruno.

2110
03:31:50.400 --> 03:31:50.940
Yes.

2111
03:31:53.640 --> 03:31:54.180
Sima Kostovetsky: Yes.

2112
03:31:55.110 --> 03:31:55.650
NICO.

2113
03:32:01.050 --> 03:32:01.590
jim murez: NICO.

2114
03:32:04.440 --> 03:32:05.430
Nico Ruderman: soccer yes.

2115
03:32:07.560 --> 03:32:08.760
jim murez: Yes, Jim RON.

2116
03:32:12.720 --> 03:32:14.310
jim murez: it's getting late Jim rob.

2117
03:32:17.610 --> 03:32:19.020
jim murez: i'll come back alley.

2118
03:32:26.100 --> 03:32:26.670
Chie Lunn: Yes.

2119
03:32:27.870 --> 03:32:28.410
jim murez: Mike.

2120
03:32:28.920 --> 03:32:29.280
yeah.

2121
03:32:30.540 --> 03:32:31.410
jim murez: Sola down.

2122
03:32:31.770 --> 03:32:32.220
Yes.

2123
03:32:33.270 --> 03:32:33.990
jim murez: cj.

2124
03:32:36.060 --> 03:32:36.660
jim murez: Oliver.

2125
03:32:36.990 --> 03:32:39.210
jim murez: Yes, Elizabeth.

2126
03:32:39.810 --> 03:32:40.140
yeah.

2127
03:32:41.340 --> 03:32:41.850
jim murez: Robert.

2128
03:32:42.210 --> 03:32:44.040
jim murez: Yes, Clark.

2129
03:32:44.370 --> 03:32:44.820
Yes.

2130
03:32:46.440 --> 03:32:48.720
jim murez: i'm gonna vote yes.

2131
03:32:51.750 --> 03:32:54.510
jim murez: And Jim rob are you back.

2132
03:32:56.760 --> 03:32:57.930
jim murez: alley are you back.

2133
03:33:01.830 --> 03:33:11.580
jim murez: Okay motion carries 15 02011 recusal um.

2134
03:33:12.300 --> 03:33:13.440
Ivan: Okay now Jim.

2135
03:33:13.710 --> 03:33:13.980
Yes.

2136
03:33:16.050 --> 03:33:18.030
Ivan: or actually for daffodil.

2137
03:33:19.350 --> 03:33:20.730
Ivan: malicious is not on.

2138
03:33:22.500 --> 03:33:29.280
Ivan: she's got to be sure to fill out the forms and add him officially to the done roster.

2139
03:33:30.570 --> 03:33:35.160
Ivan: Because they won't give him the password to take the trainings until he does.

2140
03:33:36.480 --> 03:33:41.010
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay yeah he's worked for a while, so he's had most of the trainings but we'll sort that out a.

2141
03:33:41.010 --> 03:33:52.560
Ivan: form that's fine, I just want to make sure you vote and is now officially on the board, so he he can't vote yet, but he can take part in the rest of the evening scottrade.

2142
03:33:53.250 --> 03:33:57.090
jim murez: will wait if he's had the ethics, training and he has had the.

2143
03:34:00.060 --> 03:34:00.600
Ivan: coffee.

2144
03:34:01.710 --> 03:34:05.280
Daffodil Tyminski: He should I mean we'll let him speak to that, but he should have the only thing he wouldn't.

2145
03:34:05.280 --> 03:34:07.800
Michael Jensen: yeah i've taken all the ethics training.

2146
03:34:08.190 --> 03:34:09.120
Ivan: that's up today.

2147
03:34:10.170 --> 03:34:11.130
Michael Jensen: And it is up to date.

2148
03:34:11.460 --> 03:34:13.110
jim murez: Okay, when.

2149
03:34:13.350 --> 03:34:18.570
jim murez: He just wouldn't have had the financial training and we don't have any financial issues on the board at this point.

2150
03:34:18.870 --> 03:34:20.040
Daffodil Tyminski: Right right.

2151
03:34:20.550 --> 03:34:22.500
Ivan: Okay, then he can vote on everything out.

2152
03:34:22.770 --> 03:34:26.430
jim murez: Right whatever's Left welcome mchale.

2153
03:34:27.210 --> 03:34:29.220
jim murez: We have great to patients, for you.

2154
03:34:32.010 --> 03:34:33.180
Michael Jensen: Welcome i'll try and meet them.

2155
03:34:33.930 --> 03:34:34.500
Yes.

2156
03:34:35.910 --> 03:34:42.390
jim murez: So now we're on to number 21 selection of neighborhood committee Member.

2157
03:34:44.310 --> 03:34:44.940
jim murez: i'm.

2158
03:34:47.280 --> 03:34:50.130
jim murez: daffodil do you want to invite this.

2159
03:34:51.450 --> 03:34:52.950
jim murez: Member to speak, she here.

2160
03:34:53.100 --> 03:34:55.440
Daffodil Tyminski: Sure felicia is here, and I have.

2161
03:34:56.460 --> 03:35:00.630
Daffodil Tyminski: She should be able to speak, so please, if you want to give.

2162
03:35:00.810 --> 03:35:01.470
Daffodil Tyminski: You know.

2163
03:35:01.890 --> 03:35:03.690
Daffodil Tyminski: 3060 seconds about yourself.

2164
03:35:04.470 --> 03:35:04.740
feliciasaltzbart: sure.

2165
03:35:05.070 --> 03:35:11.040
feliciasaltzbart: hi everyone, and thank you so much for allowing me this opportunity and a lot of you i've seen.

2166
03:35:11.850 --> 03:35:17.490
feliciasaltzbart: I helped to organize a panel discussion with many of you, with my neighborhood, which is the silver strand.

2167
03:35:18.030 --> 03:35:30.180
feliciasaltzbart: And, essentially, I am one of many families living here who have been talking a lot about what's going on around us and not necessarily happy and well I realized talk is cheap.

2168
03:35:30.780 --> 03:35:34.440
feliciasaltzbart: I want to just start doing something about it, and so I found myself.

2169
03:35:34.830 --> 03:35:42.840
feliciasaltzbart: talking to Sema and reading more and realizing that this would be a good opportunity for me to understand really what's going on and be.

2170
03:35:43.080 --> 03:35:54.840
feliciasaltzbart: A representative from my neighborhood to ensure that they are also receiving information from you all about what's going on, and I can also be a sounding board for them to share information with you.

2171
03:35:57.240 --> 03:35:58.680
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks felicia sure.

2172
03:36:01.080 --> 03:36:06.330
jim murez: um I don't believe we do public comment on this.

2173
03:36:08.070 --> 03:36:10.140
Daffodil Tyminski: right again, this is just another affirmation.

2174
03:36:10.260 --> 03:36:13.620
CJ Cole: Correct I have a question now.

2175
03:36:14.280 --> 03:36:23.940
CJ Cole: Okay um don't you already have a silver strand representative or are you not trying to be specific.

2176
03:36:25.290 --> 03:36:27.420
Daffodil Tyminski: I, we have a.

2177
03:36:33.330 --> 03:36:39.270
Daffodil Tyminski: We do have a silver shrimp sorry we do have a silver sham person yes.

2178
03:36:40.410 --> 03:36:42.990
CJ Cole: But the second one is okay.

2179
03:36:43.260 --> 03:36:44.910
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah taking on a second one is fine.

2180
03:36:45.150 --> 03:36:45.690
Okay.

2181
03:36:46.770 --> 03:36:47.100
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah.

2182
03:36:48.420 --> 03:36:49.710
jim murez: So we have a maker.

2183
03:36:51.120 --> 03:36:52.470
Vicki Halliday: i'll make vicki.

2184
03:36:53.790 --> 03:36:55.470
jim murez: Thank you vicki do we have a second.

2185
03:36:55.590 --> 03:36:56.370
Daffodil Tyminski: i'll second it.

2186
03:36:56.940 --> 03:36:58.080
jim murez: Thank you Danielle.

2187
03:36:59.220 --> 03:37:01.260
jim murez: And we have the.

2188
03:37:02.910 --> 03:37:05.130
jim murez: Discussion excuse me.

2189
03:37:07.110 --> 03:37:08.130
jim murez: daffodil, how do you vote.

2190
03:37:08.610 --> 03:37:09.330
Yes.

2191
03:37:10.890 --> 03:37:11.640
jim murez: Melissa.

2192
03:37:13.350 --> 03:37:14.760
jim murez: She got permission to speak.

2193
03:37:17.130 --> 03:37:18.810
jim murez: you're muted deaf adult.

2194
03:37:19.050 --> 03:37:20.040
Daffodil Tyminski: Oh sorry about that.

2195
03:37:21.090 --> 03:37:22.320
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, you should be fine.

2196
03:37:22.380 --> 03:37:22.920
jim murez: Thank you.

2197
03:37:23.340 --> 03:37:24.930
Andrea Boccaletti: Andre yes.

2198
03:37:25.890 --> 03:37:27.000
Vicki Halliday: vicki yes.

2199
03:37:28.740 --> 03:37:29.370
Bruno Hernandez: Yes.

2200
03:37:33.870 --> 03:37:34.560
jim murez: NICO.

2201
03:37:35.610 --> 03:37:36.060
Nico Ruderman: Yes.

2202
03:37:41.790 --> 03:37:42.540
jim murez: Jim rob.

2203
03:37:54.690 --> 03:37:55.260
Chie Lunn: Yes.

2204
03:37:55.920 --> 03:37:56.460
Mike.

2205
03:37:59.010 --> 03:37:59.610
Mike Bravo: Yes.

2206
03:38:01.890 --> 03:38:02.460
Soledad Ursua: Yes.

2207
03:38:03.990 --> 03:38:04.560
jim murez: cj.

2208
03:38:06.390 --> 03:38:06.900
jim murez: All over.

2209
03:38:08.670 --> 03:38:09.390
jim murez: Elizabeth.

2210
03:38:09.720 --> 03:38:11.970
jim murez: Yes, Robert.

2211
03:38:12.570 --> 03:38:14.220
jim murez: Yes, Clark.

2212
03:38:14.700 --> 03:38:15.180
Yes.

2213
03:38:16.470 --> 03:38:18.420
jim murez: And I vote yes.

2214
03:38:18.450 --> 03:38:20.250
Motion carries.

2215
03:38:22.530 --> 03:38:24.810
Michael Jensen: she gave me you didn't ask me but i'm not on the roster.

2216
03:38:24.810 --> 03:38:27.030
Michael Jensen: So i'll just i'll i'll say off of us.

2217
03:38:27.120 --> 03:38:29.670
jim murez: Oh that's true you'll have we'll have to update you for next time.

2218
03:38:33.240 --> 03:38:40.320
jim murez: Alright, so what was next we've got through this one here a Community impact statement i'm.

2219
03:38:41.370 --> 03:38:45.450
jim murez: put on by Helen fallon in supportive Council file.

2220
03:38:47.100 --> 03:38:50.550
jim murez: To ban the sale of flavored tobacco products.

2221
03:38:53.160 --> 03:38:55.830
jim murez: The motion who would like to read the motion.

2222
03:38:57.240 --> 03:38:58.440
jim murez: who'd like to make the motion.

2223
03:38:58.710 --> 03:39:01.650
Daffodil Tyminski: You might need to step out for one second so someone else could.

2224
03:39:01.920 --> 03:39:02.850
Daffodil Tyminski: Always emotion.

2225
03:39:03.630 --> 03:39:08.700
jim murez: emotion NICO do you want to go ahead and read it i'm not supposed to do it, so I was told.

2226
03:39:08.730 --> 03:39:24.090
Nico Ruderman: Short that Venice neighborhood Council files, the Community impact statements, supporting the Council file 18 dash 1104 and urges that the City Council take immediate steps to enact the proposed ordinance that will ban the sale of flavored tobacco products.

2227
03:39:25.230 --> 03:39:26.310
jim murez: And we have a second.

2228
03:39:28.050 --> 03:39:28.530
CJ Cole: Okay.

2229
03:39:29.400 --> 03:39:30.600
jim murez: Thank you cj.

2230
03:39:33.540 --> 03:39:35.820
jim murez: And do we have any public comment.

2231
03:39:36.390 --> 03:39:40.050
Vicki Halliday: Excuse me, Jim alley being needs to be let back in.

2232
03:39:40.350 --> 03:39:41.280
jim murez: Okay i'll do that.

2233
03:39:41.460 --> 03:39:41.850
Vicki Halliday: Thank you.

2234
03:39:43.320 --> 03:39:51.360
jim murez: So there's Melissa I don't know why Melissa is is not coming in the ocean is she and now as a panelist melissa's in as a pet know Melissa is not in as a panelist hold on.

2235
03:39:52.500 --> 03:39:57.540
jim murez: So, and it looks like Jim rob is out too well, I wonder what's happening here.

2236
03:39:59.190 --> 03:40:01.350
jim murez: Okay, Melissa I tried to promote.

2237
03:40:02.370 --> 03:40:05.160
jim murez: Jim RON I am trying to promote.

2238
03:40:06.990 --> 03:40:12.990
jim murez: And you say oh Bruno is also know also trying to promote you.

2239
03:40:14.340 --> 03:40:17.610
jim murez: And someplace so wait le.

2240
03:40:18.540 --> 03:40:19.530
Jim Robb: Thanks i'm back here.

2241
03:40:20.130 --> 03:40:21.240
jim murez: Okay, thank you.

2242
03:40:21.600 --> 03:40:22.110
Bruno Hernandez: Thank you.

2243
03:40:22.980 --> 03:40:23.880
You missed a couple of.

2244
03:40:25.800 --> 03:40:27.540
jim murez: um who else is still missing.

2245
03:40:27.780 --> 03:40:29.250
Alley Bean: i'm back in now, thank you.

2246
03:40:31.980 --> 03:40:35.760
jim murez: I don't know if anybody else still missing, I wonder why it's dropping so many people tonight.

2247
03:40:35.940 --> 03:40:36.480
Alley Bean: No, no.

2248
03:40:37.320 --> 03:40:39.330
jim murez: Okay, well, I guess everybody's in now.

2249
03:40:44.790 --> 03:40:45.600
jim murez: Where were we.

2250
03:40:47.070 --> 03:40:50.340
jim murez: So I called for public comment on this item.

2251
03:40:51.360 --> 03:40:53.550
jim murez: And do we have any hands up, we have.

2252
03:40:55.110 --> 03:40:56.610
jim murez: 1234 hands.

2253
03:40:58.110 --> 03:41:04.950
jim murez: colima willing will wilmington I guess is the last one oh Erica more will be the last one okay.

2254
03:41:06.510 --> 03:41:07.770
jim murez: Helen go ahead, please.

2255
03:41:09.570 --> 03:41:21.330
Helen Fallon: Thank you for allowing me to present the emotion like posting up I don't think I need to discuss the negative impact of tobacco products on our health and the environment we're all pretty aware of those.

2256
03:41:21.360 --> 03:41:30.390
Helen Fallon: And since I can't think of any real reasons to make flavored tobacco products available since these products, by their very nature, designed to appeal to teams.

2257
03:41:30.720 --> 03:41:36.240
Helen Fallon: All these products do is benefit big tobacco and create a future generation nicotine.

2258
03:41:36.720 --> 03:41:44.400
Helen Fallon: emotion banning these products is currently installed in committee let's let the City Council, now that we want Labor tobacco products band.

2259
03:41:44.760 --> 03:41:58.770
Helen Fallon: and health this motion come back to the full Council for approval let's make sure that the Council knows that the health of our children is clearly a priority here in Venice, thank you, so please vote support the Council well.

2260
03:42:00.300 --> 03:42:01.440
jim murez: Okay, thank you.

2261
03:42:03.900 --> 03:42:05.700
jim murez: reset let's see.

2262
03:42:06.900 --> 03:42:07.860
jim murez: Lisa.

2263
03:42:10.020 --> 03:42:10.620
jim murez: Go ahead.

2264
03:42:12.750 --> 03:42:25.170
Lisa Redmond: i'm not necessarily in opposition to the CIS, what I do have a problem with is that we are constantly rushing CIS to the board, without going through committee first it's a bad precedent.

2265
03:42:25.650 --> 03:42:35.790
Lisa Redmond: And I also want to take the opportunity to say that Jim you keep making common tell we're behind, but you are also playing Secretary and running the meeting and running the zoom board and that's just too much.

2266
03:42:36.390 --> 03:42:41.700
Lisa Redmond: If you Secretary can do for some reason have someone else be Secretary for you tonight, please.

2267
03:42:43.140 --> 03:42:43.620
Lisa Redmond: that's all.

2268
03:42:45.030 --> 03:42:46.200
jim murez: Thank you Lisa.

2269
03:42:53.430 --> 03:42:54.540
jim murez: Yolanda.

2270
03:42:56.520 --> 03:43:04.920
Yolanda Gonzalez: Yes, I thought flavored cigarettes had been banned, a long time ago i'm not a smoker i've never been a smoker by thought.

2271
03:43:05.310 --> 03:43:18.450
Yolanda Gonzalez: They were banned a long time ago, because they do produce certain effects on the body, so I would like to learn why is this coming up again and it's going to counsel, thank you.

2272
03:43:19.980 --> 03:43:21.330
jim murez: Thank you Yolanda.

2273
03:43:27.120 --> 03:43:27.810
jim murez: um.

2274
03:43:30.000 --> 03:43:36.330
jim murez: Is it called kalani I don't know it doesn't have your entire name listed there just got three dots.

2275
03:43:37.350 --> 03:43:40.410
Kalani Whittington: So it's a simple hawaiian name kalani.

2276
03:43:41.520 --> 03:43:43.920
jim murez: Let me, let me, let me reset the clock there you go.

2277
03:43:43.950 --> 03:43:50.490
Kalani Whittington: Go ahead, I support this CIS, I do hope we can get another CIS banning smoking.

2278
03:43:50.820 --> 03:44:04.920
Kalani Whittington: Of all types in public places and in multi dwelling units, including marijuana I support the legalization of marijuana but I cannot understand why we allow smoking marijuana.

2279
03:44:05.310 --> 03:44:16.890
Kalani Whittington: in public places in multi dwelling and multi dwelling units it causes tremendous second hand side effects, but I do support this CIS, thank you.

2280
03:44:17.520 --> 03:44:18.210
jim murez: Thank you.

2281
03:44:21.270 --> 03:44:23.820
jim murez: And last speaker Erica more.

2282
03:44:25.410 --> 03:44:36.900
Erica Moore: hi i'm also in strong support of this as well i'm actually located my business is next to a liquor store that sells these kinds of products, and I personally watched kids smoking them.

2283
03:44:37.440 --> 03:44:44.490
Erica Moore: So I really strongly you know throughout time and I really strongly support this motion and hope you will do, thank you.

2284
03:44:46.020 --> 03:44:49.380
jim murez: Thank you all posing public comment.

2285
03:44:50.760 --> 03:44:55.980
jim murez: let's go to committee comment, let me come back to the agenda.

2286
03:44:58.890 --> 03:45:01.440
jim murez: We have a few hands up mchale go ahead.

2287
03:45:05.610 --> 03:45:06.450
jim murez: You have to unmute.

2288
03:45:07.470 --> 03:45:17.970
Michael Jensen: sorry about that um my understanding was State law already bands flavored tobacco products, so I, I would just be curious maybe how on wants to describe why the.

2289
03:45:18.330 --> 03:45:24.030
Michael Jensen: city is even taking this up, and I will admit I didn't do my homework and read the background on this file so that's why i'm asking.

2290
03:45:25.320 --> 03:45:25.830
jim murez: Okay.

2291
03:45:28.320 --> 03:45:30.540
jim murez: It is a Council file, though I assume.

2292
03:45:31.470 --> 03:45:34.140
Michael Jensen: I did yeah it looks like it, I just haven't read I didn't.

2293
03:45:34.350 --> 03:45:36.570
Michael Jensen: I didn't come prepared tonight to vote on stuff.

2294
03:45:36.990 --> 03:45:37.440
yeah.

2295
03:45:38.910 --> 03:45:41.010
jim murez: Okay um NICO go ahead.

2296
03:45:43.860 --> 03:45:44.100
Nico Ruderman: I.

2297
03:45:44.670 --> 03:45:55.650
Nico Ruderman: Take to answer mchale I believe the answer that I don't think all flavored tobacco items were banned, I believe it was just mental I could be wrong about that too, I also have not done my.

2298
03:45:55.650 --> 03:45:58.740
Nico Ruderman: homework on it anyway, I strongly.

2299
03:45:58.740 --> 03:46:04.590
Nico Ruderman: support this motion, not only are flavored tobacco products marketed towards teams are also marketed towards.

2300
03:46:04.590 --> 03:46:05.460
Nico Ruderman: minorities and.

2301
03:46:06.510 --> 03:46:13.530
Nico Ruderman: People of color really are affected and are really devastated by this this this marketing.

2302
03:46:14.580 --> 03:46:19.770
Nico Ruderman: there's there's there's no reason for it, for it to be around it's just it's just killing people for no reason.

2303
03:46:22.680 --> 03:46:23.370
jim murez: Thank you NICO.

2304
03:46:30.720 --> 03:46:32.310
jim murez: NICO NICO.

2305
03:46:32.430 --> 03:46:33.810
jim murez: Who said okay.

2306
03:46:34.980 --> 03:46:36.690
jim murez: i'm daffodil you have your hand up.

2307
03:46:37.170 --> 03:46:50.730
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah I was just gonna say sorry i'm back in for clarification purposes um I think the issue that's going on here is in 2020 governor newsome signed a bill to ban the sale of most flavored tobacco, including menthol.

2308
03:46:51.810 --> 03:46:59.100
Daffodil Tyminski: But it it's on hold, so I think what's happening here is that the city is trying to act because.

2309
03:46:59.880 --> 03:47:12.060
Daffodil Tyminski: The governor's posts to act on the bill this year so it's not just the city of Los Angeles, and the county Los Angeles, but a number of counties around the state are all trying to show support for the bill, so that the governor signs it.

2310
03:47:13.500 --> 03:47:14.700
Daffodil Tyminski: Just by way of context.

2311
03:47:14.940 --> 03:47:15.450
jim murez: Thank you.

2312
03:47:16.680 --> 03:47:19.290
jim murez: i'm seeing no additional hands.

2313
03:47:21.120 --> 03:47:30.780
jim murez: I can't see that okay there we go, so we have a maker NICO second by cj let's call for the vote daffodil.

2314
03:47:31.170 --> 03:47:31.740
Yes.

2315
03:47:33.300 --> 03:47:33.930
jim murez: Melissa.

2316
03:47:37.350 --> 03:47:38.910
melissa diner : She in the meeting yeah.

2317
03:47:40.620 --> 03:47:41.850
jim murez: Thank you, Melissa Andre.

2318
03:47:42.180 --> 03:47:42.630
Yes.

2319
03:47:43.710 --> 03:47:44.790
jim murez: Mickey yes.

2320
03:47:45.990 --> 03:47:46.620
jim murez: Bruno.

2321
03:47:48.300 --> 03:47:48.900
jim murez: seema.

2322
03:47:51.090 --> 03:47:51.720
jim murez: seema.

2323
03:47:55.170 --> 03:47:55.740
jim murez: NICO.

2324
03:47:57.900 --> 03:47:58.380
Nico Ruderman: Yes.

2325
03:47:59.640 --> 03:48:00.420
jim murez: Jim Rom.

2326
03:48:00.840 --> 03:48:01.260
Yes.

2327
03:48:04.140 --> 03:48:04.860
Alley Bean: Yes.

2328
03:48:06.870 --> 03:48:07.590
Chie Lunn: Yes.

2329
03:48:08.160 --> 03:48:10.140
Mike Bravo: Mike bravo yes.

2330
03:48:11.250 --> 03:48:12.060
jim murez: So it down.

2331
03:48:12.660 --> 03:48:13.170
No.

2332
03:48:16.200 --> 03:48:18.090
jim murez: cj yes.

2333
03:48:19.470 --> 03:48:20.040
jim murez: Oliver.

2334
03:48:20.460 --> 03:48:20.700
yeah.

2335
03:48:22.170 --> 03:48:22.680
jim murez: and

2336
03:48:22.740 --> 03:48:24.480
Elizabeth Clay: Elizabeth yes.

2337
03:48:25.500 --> 03:48:27.240
Elizabeth Clay: we're missing a few of them here i'll.

2338
03:48:27.240 --> 03:48:27.990
jim murez: See Robert.

2339
03:48:31.470 --> 03:48:31.980
jim murez: Robert.

2340
03:48:34.020 --> 03:48:35.340
robertthibodeau: sorry that I was unmuted.

2341
03:48:35.370 --> 03:48:37.680
jim murez: Yes, okay Clark.

2342
03:48:37.920 --> 03:48:38.430
Yes.

2343
03:48:40.170 --> 03:48:43.380
jim murez: I will vote yes and see my did you come back.

2344
03:48:43.470 --> 03:48:43.980
Yes.

2345
03:48:45.690 --> 03:48:46.260
jim murez: Thank you.

2346
03:48:48.270 --> 03:48:49.680
jim murez: ocean carries.

2347
03:48:50.850 --> 03:48:51.570
jim murez: didn't vote.

2348
03:48:55.380 --> 03:49:00.270
jim murez: 18 Oh, there was one no okay i'm sorry seven it's 17 one zero.

2349
03:49:01.500 --> 03:49:14.010
jim murez: Next motion Community impact statement for mental health beds and related staffing mark Ryan back made this motion, the motion is here.

2350
03:49:15.360 --> 03:49:24.570
jim murez: And will first need to get somebody to make the motion and then second to that, and then we can see if we can get mark to explain it.

2351
03:49:25.050 --> 03:49:26.130
Andrea Boccaletti: Today, I will make the motion.

2352
03:49:27.150 --> 03:49:28.620
Daffodil Tyminski: and staff at the last second it.

2353
03:49:30.000 --> 03:49:31.590
jim murez: Okay, thank you guys.

2354
03:49:32.970 --> 03:49:34.320
jim murez: This mark right back here.

2355
03:49:35.610 --> 03:49:41.460
Daffodil Tyminski: um I do not believe he is here unless he's logged in under an alias.

2356
03:49:42.750 --> 03:49:47.250
jim murez: Okay i'm Andre you want to go ahead and read the motion.

2357
03:49:49.770 --> 03:49:52.260
Andrea Boccaletti: Sure, the emotion is.

2358
03:49:53.700 --> 03:50:05.220
Andrea Boccaletti: The Venice neighborhood Council here by supports the resolution blue sky no Lee to include in the city's 2021 2022 state legislative Program.

2359
03:50:05.940 --> 03:50:24.720
Andrea Boccaletti: sponsorship and or support of legislation or administrative action for the state to allocate funding to allow us i'll say Angeles county to meet the number of mental health beds recommended by mental health experts 50 public beds per 100,000 residents.

2360
03:50:26.130 --> 03:50:37.950
Andrea Boccaletti: And directs that this motion bit touched as a community impact statement to cancel file to one dash 0002 dash s 195.

2361
03:50:39.480 --> 03:50:43.140
jim murez: Thank you i'm daffodil you want to deal with public comment.

2362
03:50:43.770 --> 03:50:51.900
Daffodil Tyminski: sure we have some hands up here so Erica more why don't you go first let's unmute yourself.

2363
03:50:56.700 --> 03:50:57.240
Daffodil Tyminski: Erica.

2364
03:51:01.020 --> 03:51:02.790
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, how about Lisa rodman.

2365
03:51:03.810 --> 03:51:04.290
Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead.

2366
03:51:05.460 --> 03:51:13.560
Lisa Redmond: yeah i'm gonna take the opportunity again to say that this is another CIS that was rushed to the board, without going to committee first it even has to.

2367
03:51:13.950 --> 03:51:20.580
Lisa Redmond: September 13 as the date that right have accented in there was plenty of time in January, for it to go to a committee.

2368
03:51:21.300 --> 03:51:30.240
Lisa Redmond: And it didn't but instead we just got to rush it because we don't know so by saying this it's going to be continual do all see is is now immediately go to the board.

2369
03:51:30.840 --> 03:51:37.140
Lisa Redmond: that's not how CIS has work, the Council puts out these files there's a lot of time for people to review them.

2370
03:51:37.350 --> 03:51:51.690
Lisa Redmond: Perhaps the neighborhood committee should do that how people that regularly look at Council files and say hey maybe this is something that the Venice neighborhood Council would want to consider, but other than that we it's just really, really bad precedent.

2371
03:51:54.330 --> 03:51:57.270
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you Lisa and Helen go ahead.

2372
03:51:59.940 --> 03:52:09.510
Helen Fallon: um I hope that you'll support this, I think there's definitely a need for more mental health benefits that those pets also a form of shelter for some of the people that are out on the streets.

2373
03:52:09.870 --> 03:52:19.620
Helen Fallon: And also just needs to be more available for all of the people in this in Los Angeles and La county I disagree with Lisa.

2374
03:52:20.250 --> 03:52:30.570
Helen Fallon: because unfortunately the this motion and my emotion about the CIS is our public health issues and we don't have a working public health committee because no one's been appointed and share it so.

2375
03:52:31.020 --> 03:52:40.110
Helen Fallon: I think, until that happens, I think, public health motions do need to go directly to this board and certainly when there's a Council file we shouldn't be wasting time.

2376
03:52:40.890 --> 03:52:56.010
Helen Fallon: not speaking up and coming forward to make sure how what our our Community feels about an issue that's what the job of an oven of the mcs is is to communicate to the City Council will see is the impact statements.

2377
03:52:56.700 --> 03:52:57.510
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks hon.

2378
03:52:58.770 --> 03:52:59.400
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm.

2379
03:53:01.710 --> 03:53:03.870
Daffodil Tyminski: Erica more go ahead.

2380
03:53:07.980 --> 03:53:13.140
Erica Moore: really sorry, one of my workers came in and started talking to me like I can't on it and I apologize.

2381
03:53:13.710 --> 03:53:14.190
Okay.

2382
03:53:15.630 --> 03:53:17.580
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm Yolanda go ahead.

2383
03:53:19.920 --> 03:53:29.580
Yolanda Gonzalez: Yes, i'm in support of this motion so anybody who's on the neighborhood Council and what and in the public wants them to be active, they should get active.

2384
03:53:29.940 --> 03:53:37.200
Yolanda Gonzalez: But i've heard, I was reading about this a while back and i'm really in support of this motion, I hope you approve it, thank you very much.

2385
03:53:37.890 --> 03:53:43.590
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Yolanda and last will close public comment after john and Michelle house.

2386
03:53:45.030 --> 03:53:45.900
Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead guys.

2387
03:53:46.740 --> 03:53:48.450
John and Michele Hales: Thank you, you can hear me okay.

2388
03:53:48.690 --> 03:53:49.800
Daffodil Tyminski: yep perfect.

2389
03:53:49.830 --> 03:54:00.090
John and Michele Hales: This is john hails just quickly point of history, I worked for Philips medical for 27 years all over the United States.

2390
03:54:01.140 --> 03:54:11.010
John and Michele Hales: In radiology I visited all of the mental institutions in California point of reference for all of you to understand 20 years ago.

2391
03:54:11.640 --> 03:54:21.210
John and Michele Hales: The state government, including the governor at that time, decided to close all but three of the State mental institutions and guess where those people ended up.

2392
03:54:22.260 --> 03:54:42.180
John and Michele Hales: Yes, back on the streets and crime went vertical etc so right now, anybody who is left from over that time period is going to remember this and you're going to be fighting an uphill battle, I support you 100%, this is an awesome battle to pick up, thank you very much.

2393
03:54:42.960 --> 03:54:43.530
Thanks.

2394
03:54:47.580 --> 03:54:48.300
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay.

2395
03:54:49.770 --> 03:54:50.460
Daffodil Tyminski: and

2396
03:54:51.030 --> 03:54:51.420
Daffodil Tyminski: Is that.

2397
03:54:52.080 --> 03:54:53.370
jim murez: Is that the end of public comment.

2398
03:54:53.580 --> 03:55:01.290
jim murez: Yes, okay so public comment is closed, do we have any board discussion I see two hands up NICO go ahead, please.

2399
03:55:03.900 --> 03:55:15.810
Nico Ruderman: yeah I I i'm definitely gonna vote yes on this, I think we need to support it, we need way more beds all across California, but especially in Los Angeles, and definitely in CD 11.

2400
03:55:17.340 --> 03:55:19.920
Nico Ruderman: You know, people are dying on the streets and it's.

2401
03:55:21.360 --> 03:55:35.010
Nico Ruderman: A lot of these people quitting a man who regularly lives in my alley I speak to him regularly he he needs help and he isn't able to find it and you know i'll disappear for a couple months or a year, at a time they'll come back and.

2402
03:55:36.090 --> 03:55:45.630
Nico Ruderman: He has nowhere to go and people need help, so we need to have beds, we need a place to prevent people to go and get help, so I support this.

2403
03:55:46.800 --> 03:55:49.980
jim murez: Okay, thank you NICO cj go ahead, please.

2404
03:55:50.550 --> 03:56:09.540
CJ Cole: Yes, first of all I do support it and, secondly, I have to agree with Lisa we definitely need some form of watchdog person or something whereby the CIS is we hear about them and we'll take a position on them quicker than.

2405
03:56:09.540 --> 03:56:10.320
CJ Cole: We do.

2406
03:56:10.560 --> 03:56:23.520
CJ Cole: I cannot believe I read to counsel file every single time they have a new meeting coming out, and I cannot believe that we all the neighborhood Councils do CIS and we never do.

2407
03:56:24.420 --> 03:56:35.880
CJ Cole: So I just think this is, we need if it's a neighborhood community, whatever it may be, we do need somebody or a watchdog committee to bring these things to our attention, thank you.

2408
03:56:36.390 --> 03:56:38.520
jim murez: Thank you cj allie go ahead, please.

2409
03:56:39.720 --> 03:56:49.740
Alley Bean: yeah I was gonna say the same thing, I mean, I agree with Lisa about that I also i'm going to vote for it because I think that we're in such a.

2410
03:56:50.880 --> 03:57:10.320
Alley Bean: I think that more and more attention has to be focused on the mental health aspect of of what we're facing here and and and more people have to be sort of screaming loud about you know getting people help, which I know you want Lisa, so I think it's it's a double edged sword, but I think.

2411
03:57:11.430 --> 03:57:15.720
Alley Bean: on the side of time that we then i'm going to vote yes so that's why.

2412
03:57:16.830 --> 03:57:21.090
jim murez: Thank you i'm looking seeing no additional hands.

2413
03:57:22.320 --> 03:57:23.550
jim murez: let's take a vote.

2414
03:57:25.650 --> 03:57:26.280
jim murez: How do you vote.

2415
03:57:26.640 --> 03:57:27.180
Yes.

2416
03:57:30.240 --> 03:57:31.320
jim murez: Melissa, how do you vote.

2417
03:57:35.970 --> 03:57:36.210
melissa diner : yeah.

2418
03:57:36.930 --> 03:57:37.320
What.

2419
03:57:40.140 --> 03:57:40.740
jim murez: Melissa.

2420
03:57:43.140 --> 03:57:43.890
Andrea Boccaletti: voted yes.

2421
03:57:44.640 --> 03:57:45.420
melissa diner : Yes, yes.

2422
03:57:46.020 --> 03:57:48.420
jim murez: Thank you Andre, how do you vote.

2423
03:57:48.630 --> 03:57:49.050
Yes.

2424
03:57:50.130 --> 03:57:51.120
jim murez: vicki, how do you vote.

2425
03:57:51.390 --> 03:57:53.220
jim murez: Yes or no.

2426
03:57:58.560 --> 03:58:00.270
jim murez: Thank you see my.

2427
03:58:00.810 --> 03:58:03.090
jim murez: Yes, NICO.

2428
03:58:05.520 --> 03:58:06.030
Nico Ruderman: Yes.

2429
03:58:06.930 --> 03:58:07.740
jim murez: Jim rob.

2430
03:58:08.190 --> 03:58:08.730
Yes.

2431
03:58:10.290 --> 03:58:10.770
jim murez: Le.

2432
03:58:11.040 --> 03:58:11.580
Yes.

2433
03:58:13.980 --> 03:58:14.130
jim murez: hi.

2434
03:58:14.640 --> 03:58:15.270
Yes.

2435
03:58:16.290 --> 03:58:16.800
jim murez: Mike.

2436
03:58:17.460 --> 03:58:18.600
Mike Bravo: yeah yes.

2437
03:58:18.960 --> 03:58:19.860
jim murez: Sola down.

2438
03:58:20.310 --> 03:58:20.880
Yes.

2439
03:58:22.140 --> 03:58:22.920
jim murez: cj.

2440
03:58:23.220 --> 03:58:25.350
jim murez: Yes, Oliver.

2441
03:58:25.800 --> 03:58:26.190
Yes.

2442
03:58:27.450 --> 03:58:28.200
jim murez: Elizabeth.

2443
03:58:28.620 --> 03:58:29.370
Yes.

2444
03:58:30.810 --> 03:58:31.320
jim murez: Robert.

2445
03:58:31.860 --> 03:58:33.330
jim murez: Yes, Clark.

2446
03:58:33.660 --> 03:58:34.140
Yes.

2447
03:58:35.340 --> 03:58:37.740
jim murez: And I will vote yes also.

2448
03:58:40.500 --> 03:58:42.600
jim murez: Motion carries.

2449
03:58:45.330 --> 03:58:57.060
jim murez: The next one, creation of preserving public spaces ad hoc committee for a one year period maker, the request for of this was Robin heroes.

2450
03:58:58.680 --> 03:59:01.650
jim murez: We need somebody to make the motion and read it please.

2451
03:59:01.710 --> 03:59:02.820
Andrea Boccaletti: very mixed emotion.

2452
03:59:06.510 --> 03:59:07.170
jim murez: Okay.

2453
03:59:07.440 --> 03:59:09.090
Alley Bean: I can do it if you need a second yet.

2454
03:59:09.930 --> 03:59:11.340
jim murez: Okay, thank you ellie.

2455
03:59:14.100 --> 03:59:17.460
jim murez: i'm under you want to go ahead and read the motion.

2456
03:59:17.490 --> 03:59:18.150
jim murez: Which is the.

2457
03:59:18.360 --> 03:59:21.660
jim murez: First part, and the second part is the actual mission statement.

2458
03:59:21.990 --> 03:59:32.610
Andrea Boccaletti: Okay, the motion is the b&c board creates the preserving public spaces ad hoc committee with the mission statement as approved by the administrative committee.

2459
03:59:33.900 --> 03:59:38.070
Andrea Boccaletti: Following the creation, the committee chair shall be appointed by the President

2460
03:59:40.980 --> 03:59:51.210
Andrea Boccaletti: mission statement reads preserving public spaces committee is dedicated to preserving and activating Benson renowned historic public places.

2461
03:59:51.780 --> 04:00:05.070
Andrea Boccaletti: or goals are to identify preserve maintain enhance rebel revitalize restore commemorate and provide an informational clearinghouse for venice's historic public places.

2462
04:00:06.150 --> 04:00:15.120
jim murez: Thank you um do we have any committee questions so otherwise let's go to public comment, we have any public comment two hands three hands raised.

2463
04:00:15.180 --> 04:00:17.130
Daffodil Tyminski: We have a few hands yeah.

2464
04:00:18.900 --> 04:00:20.070
Daffodil Tyminski: Helen fallon go ahead.

2465
04:00:22.860 --> 04:00:33.240
Helen Fallon: And this is a terrific idea we have we always talk about the history of Venice, but we don't seem to do an awful lot to preserve it and make sure that people appreciate it when they come here.

2466
04:00:33.840 --> 04:00:48.780
Helen Fallon: So let's have a group that's focused on that get funding from the city let's use some of those funds to put up plaques and to fix some of the things that are deteriorating or historic remnants of old Venice, thank you.

2467
04:00:50.430 --> 04:00:51.150
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you Helen.

2468
04:00:52.920 --> 04:01:00.990
Daffodil Tyminski: Robin if it's okay with you i'll take you last because you can sort of play i'm sweep we're here we're vanderhoek.

2469
04:01:07.140 --> 04:01:07.590
Daffodil Tyminski: Right.

2470
04:01:11.220 --> 04:01:11.730
Daffodil Tyminski: All right.

2471
04:01:12.720 --> 04:01:13.140
Right.

2472
04:01:14.640 --> 04:01:16.290
Roy van de Hoek: i'm here Hello.

2473
04:01:16.440 --> 04:01:17.910
Daffodil Tyminski: Do you have a comment on this item.

2474
04:01:18.660 --> 04:01:22.710
Roy van de Hoek: Yes, so I support this, I hope, you'll vote for this.

2475
04:01:24.450 --> 04:01:30.990
Roy van de Hoek: I spoke to a Robin earlier, I just heard Helen I agree with what she just said, there was a lot of interesting.

2476
04:01:31.800 --> 04:01:40.290
Roy van de Hoek: History and Dennis and when we preserve history we actually preserve culture and nature together and nature and culture is how.

2477
04:01:40.860 --> 04:01:50.370
Roy van de Hoek: humans and human civilization has been for a long time, one of the interesting things i'm interested in and have been researching are the historic then it's canals.

2478
04:01:50.730 --> 04:01:55.830
Roy van de Hoek: And the vegetation that Abbot kinney with eucalyptus trees and other trees planted.

2479
04:01:56.370 --> 04:02:04.080
Roy van de Hoek: Along the canals and I counted 13 on the maps, I found 13 bridges that were over the Venice canals.

2480
04:02:04.500 --> 04:02:17.310
Roy van de Hoek: And where are those canals like when they happen, I think they're buried under like market street, which was a former canal, and some of the other streets like Windward that was Leo can lie and canal okay and.

2481
04:02:17.940 --> 04:02:18.690
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks right.

2482
04:02:19.920 --> 04:02:22.500
Daffodil Tyminski: um Lisa redmond go ahead.

2483
04:02:24.450 --> 04:02:31.350
Lisa Redmond: hey i'm all for local history, I love history, however, I really foresee this.

2484
04:02:32.310 --> 04:02:43.530
Lisa Redmond: committee being taken advantage of the opportunity to say, well, this is a historical open space, so we need to get rid of our unhealthy people, especially I think it's going to take over.

2485
04:02:43.980 --> 04:02:56.670
Lisa Redmond: The restate proposed restate it's an opportunity, because there is that historic canal bridge there and say we can't have affordable housing, we need to preserve this ugly do a lot instead.

2486
04:02:57.150 --> 04:03:08.670
Lisa Redmond: And I don't want a dnc sponsor committee to get rid of opportunities to get rid of unhealthy people or to block affordable housing that's already been agreed to.

2487
04:03:09.120 --> 04:03:27.030
Lisa Redmond: Not by the dnc but by other city comments and I certainly hope I know it's going to pass that you will recognize, not just the white man history in Venice, but our indigenous population and our people of color population, who has a very rich history here as well, thank you.

2488
04:03:28.110 --> 04:03:28.860
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you.

2489
04:03:30.450 --> 04:03:31.860
Daffodil Tyminski: Robin you the proponent.

2490
04:03:33.000 --> 04:03:38.520
Daffodil Tyminski: Actually let's take Sonia here and with Sonia and Robin will close public comment go ahead, Sonia.

2491
04:03:44.100 --> 04:03:44.700
Daffodil Tyminski: Sonia.

2492
04:03:49.110 --> 04:03:51.870
Sonya: Okay, can you hear me yes.

2493
04:03:52.170 --> 04:03:58.650
Sonya: Go ahead Tony green signing in Greece Greenland and I took my name off the recent Davidson project.

2494
04:03:59.730 --> 04:04:13.110
Sonya: Because I have a degree in social work, and I know it was conceived i'm wanting to preserve on that project would keep us from using the historic branch and I.

2495
04:04:13.830 --> 04:04:33.060
Sonya: want to preserve many historic science in Venice and i'm glad the prior speaker spoke different ethnic groups, but when I say Venice i'm thinking of all the ethnic groups that came together to make the Venice viable.

2496
04:04:34.440 --> 04:04:37.950
Sonya: city in business for all and.

2497
04:04:40.200 --> 04:04:55.380
Sonya: So I don't think of them as separate and I hope that this passes, then we can say on sites that were initiated from all the different ethnic groups.

2498
04:04:56.130 --> 04:04:56.940
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, Sonia.

2499
04:04:57.990 --> 04:05:01.680
Daffodil Tyminski: And last but not least, Robin go ahead.

2500
04:05:04.050 --> 04:05:08.850
Robin Murez: yeah so we're last on the agenda and saving the best for last.

2501
04:05:10.290 --> 04:05:14.190
Robin Murez: Venice, we all know, has an awesome history.

2502
04:05:15.720 --> 04:05:23.850
Robin Murez: From the tongva through Abbot kinney all cultures all peoples.

2503
04:05:25.410 --> 04:05:33.210
Robin Murez: You know that's what makes us unique this I remember years back, there was that group that wanted to.

2504
04:05:34.440 --> 04:05:45.360
Robin Murez: ban chains on Abbot kinney that's what Venice has always stood for is being unique and being special and in our own ways, and this is.

2505
04:05:45.870 --> 04:05:56.280
Robin Murez: You know, maybe the title of this committee is misleading, you could name it something else call it the landmarks committee this has nothing to do about in any way.

2506
04:05:57.390 --> 04:06:11.730
Robin Murez: Questioning whatever's going on with homeless situations, this is all about preserving our fantastic historic landmarks, so I hope you vote for it and vote for us.

2507
04:06:12.030 --> 04:06:12.600
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you.

2508
04:06:13.980 --> 04:06:17.430
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, with that we're closing public comment and we can go to board comment.

2509
04:06:18.720 --> 04:06:19.200
jim murez: Thank you.

2510
04:06:21.030 --> 04:06:23.400
jim murez: i'm allie you have your hand up go ahead, please.

2511
04:06:23.700 --> 04:06:31.470
Alley Bean: yeah yeah, as I said, I did speak to Robert about this, because I know that Mike made a comment, and I think Lisa did too I can't remember an outcome.

2512
04:06:31.950 --> 04:06:39.330
Alley Bean: You know, worried about the the homeless, part of it and I talked to her to make sure that there wasn't any you know nefarious.

2513
04:06:39.990 --> 04:06:47.760
Alley Bean: stuff like that going on with it and there isn't and I just i've always thought that anything that celebrates the history of Venice.

2514
04:06:48.180 --> 04:06:57.840
Alley Bean: and especially the diversity of Venice and and pointing to every landmark everything and i've joined a committee that Naomi nightingales formed.

2515
04:06:58.680 --> 04:07:02.730
Alley Bean: For the preservation of everything historic and oakwood I just think we gotta.

2516
04:07:03.120 --> 04:07:18.480
Alley Bean: If we don't then Venice is going to become generic and it's going to become culver city so i'm for anything that tries to pinpoint everything historic about what makes us different and socio economic socio economically diverse and so that's why i'm voting yes.

2517
04:07:19.740 --> 04:07:22.080
jim murez: Thank you ellie i'm Elizabeth claim.

2518
04:07:27.390 --> 04:07:38.040
Elizabeth Clay: um I think we've got a lot of other groups that are already going down this road you've got the Venice historical society that heritage group and and now we're sort of.

2519
04:07:38.670 --> 04:07:51.510
Elizabeth Clay: Looking at a third ad hoc situation wouldn't they be with this group, the better to be, you know as a subcommittee of, say, the historical society, just as an example, I don't think.

2520
04:07:52.110 --> 04:08:09.480
Elizabeth Clay: We need to have more committees are barely filling the ones we have we're struggling to get volunteers for that are very full agenda is, as it is i'm just if if we could accomplish the same end result that, through a different task force that might make sense.

2521
04:08:11.040 --> 04:08:13.410
jim murez: Thank you Elizabeth Andre go ahead, please.

2522
04:08:14.010 --> 04:08:22.170
Andrea Boccaletti: Yes, I think, a committee like this is so important because it's it's something that can really help pull pull Community together it's something that.

2523
04:08:22.710 --> 04:08:36.840
Andrea Boccaletti: Ever since i've moved to Venice and had been learning about the history, I want to see more of it, and I feel like it's just I haven't seen any of that effort in the last several years and.

2524
04:08:37.860 --> 04:08:41.760
Andrea Boccaletti: And we are very special, this is a special place and.

2525
04:08:43.230 --> 04:08:45.870
Andrea Boccaletti: We need to to preserve it.

2526
04:08:47.010 --> 04:08:54.570
Andrea Boccaletti: And all cultures and everything that started in Venice and all of that So although yes.

2527
04:08:56.640 --> 04:09:00.060
jim murez: Okay, thank you i'm Robert go ahead, please.

2528
04:09:03.900 --> 04:09:07.470
robertthibodeau: yeah i'm i'm suspicious of this whole thing.

2529
04:09:10.590 --> 04:09:22.650
robertthibodeau: bunch of people running around pointing at other people's property and telling them that historic just you know, on on what basis, like are these people professionals, you know.

2530
04:09:23.880 --> 04:09:33.690
robertthibodeau: What if they say your houses historic, then what would what does that mean you know I don't want them around my house i'll tell you.

2531
04:09:33.690 --> 04:09:34.980
robertthibodeau: That i'm going no.

2532
04:09:36.960 --> 04:09:40.020
jim murez: Thank you, Robert Bruno you have your hand up.

2533
04:09:40.950 --> 04:09:50.760
Bruno Hernandez: Yes, I just wanted to chime in the Venice graffiti on the walls that we run they're actually this year they're being designated as a to start a cultural landmark.

2534
04:09:51.300 --> 04:10:01.470
Bruno Hernandez: And to robert's point there's actually like a criteria that needs to be met with department of cultural affairs that allows something to be designated as a cultural landmark so.

2535
04:10:02.460 --> 04:10:08.490
Bruno Hernandez: Obviously strongly support stuff like this and you know the graffiti was obviously that's not.

2536
04:10:09.270 --> 04:10:19.380
Bruno Hernandez: Anything that's gentrified or anything like that or is really specific to any nationality or demographic it's more about the arts or whatnot so I strongly support this and, as far as Robert goes again.

2537
04:10:19.710 --> 04:10:26.460
Bruno Hernandez: If you want to take a look at some of the criteria that that would that that would define what was something like this is, I think.

2538
04:10:26.970 --> 04:10:33.990
Bruno Hernandez: I could send that over to you, but I mean again I think it's super cool for for us we've been running into Venice are was formerly.

2539
04:10:34.440 --> 04:10:47.550
Bruno Hernandez: The Venice pavilion you know, for the last 10 years so to have that city reach out to us and let us know that they wanted to designate that it's an extreme a huge honor for us, especially considering kind of you know where we come from and that's it.

2540
04:10:48.540 --> 04:10:55.500
jim murez: Bruno in case you're ever interested, I have a set of the original drawings that made the pavilion you could find your walls in their.

2541
04:10:56.190 --> 04:10:58.230
Bruno Hernandez: head that's awesome yeah definitely.

2542
04:10:59.220 --> 04:11:02.370
jim murez: I have the blueprints for that might go ahead.

2543
04:11:03.300 --> 04:11:03.720
yeah.

2544
04:11:04.770 --> 04:11:06.060
Mike Bravo: I love similar feeling.

2545
04:11:07.170 --> 04:11:17.490
Mike Bravo: sentiment, as what Liz was saying let's play you know there's other groups already doing a lot of work so i'm a boy yes right but um.

2546
04:11:18.030 --> 04:11:26.040
Mike Bravo: I hope that that group works with other organizations like that heritage, you know this is total society say Venice.

2547
04:11:26.460 --> 04:11:34.950
Mike Bravo: People have been doing a lot of the grassroots historical preservation work and I will hope to include that maybe have that be some kind of venue where they can kind of you know.

2548
04:11:35.760 --> 04:11:50.250
Mike Bravo: collaborate and you know unite all those different historical agencies within the Community already and can I just you know elevate some of that work and no because it is out there, but you know a lot of times certain things, especially when they you know.

2549
04:11:51.990 --> 04:11:57.930
Mike Bravo: It just kind of kind of politics in America, how we want to not be political, all new schools back to politics ultimately so.

2550
04:11:59.040 --> 04:12:00.540
Mike Bravo: there's a reason why a lot of times certain.

2551
04:12:01.980 --> 04:12:08.250
Mike Bravo: types of historical projects don't get elevated in the you know, in the dnc forums, or in the wider you know city.

2552
04:12:09.540 --> 04:12:12.360
Mike Bravo: forums as well, so just want to say that.

2553
04:12:12.720 --> 04:12:15.540
jim murez: Thanks Thank you Mike Clark go ahead, please.

2554
04:12:15.630 --> 04:12:18.780
clark brown: As anybody discussed this with the benefit squirrel society.

2555
04:12:21.540 --> 04:12:24.360
jim murez: I don't know good question we'll see if we can get an answer.

2556
04:12:26.310 --> 04:12:28.170
jim murez: Thank you think it should be discussed with the Venice.

2557
04:12:28.170 --> 04:12:32.940
clark brown: Historical society before we take action on the road that's established organization.

2558
04:12:33.720 --> 04:12:34.860
clark brown: Yes, it's me.

2559
04:12:34.920 --> 04:12:36.480
clark brown: They want to have some input on this.

2560
04:12:39.000 --> 04:12:47.160
jim murez: it's a private nonprofit i'm not sure that the to overlap, but we can we can ask the question we'll get to that is Robin still online.

2561
04:12:49.080 --> 04:12:50.280
jim murez: daffodil do you see Robin there.

2562
04:12:50.880 --> 04:12:52.110
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm looking.

2563
04:12:52.200 --> 04:12:54.180
jim murez: Do you want to unmute her and asked her if she's.

2564
04:12:54.510 --> 04:12:56.610
Daffodil Tyminski: Is unmuted and she is online.

2565
04:12:56.640 --> 04:13:05.580
jim murez: Robin do you want to communicate, whether or not there's been any discussion with any of the other nonprofit organizations that.

2566
04:13:07.050 --> 04:13:20.820
jim murez: Are historic and in basis whether or not they've been asked to participate, or you participate with them as a city entity, rather than as a nonprofit entity.

2567
04:13:25.650 --> 04:13:27.120
Alley Bean: She she's trying to speak.

2568
04:13:29.070 --> 04:13:30.150
Vicki Halliday: Believe she's muted.

2569
04:13:31.500 --> 04:13:34.230
Daffodil Tyminski: But she's muted herself though she needs to unmute herself.

2570
04:13:34.260 --> 04:13:35.430
Robin Murez: Oh, now, can you hear me.

2571
04:13:35.580 --> 04:13:49.530
Robin Murez: yeah oh okay weird mute came up in the corner so yeah actually I am on the Venice historical society, Sonia reese Greenland is a 20 year Member I think she was an original.

2572
04:13:51.600 --> 04:14:10.020
Robin Murez: Steven puleo, who is the past, President of the Heritage Foundation and I was on the board of heritage is also on our within our group, so we are the the effort here is to completely bring everybody together.

2573
04:14:11.460 --> 04:14:17.220
Robin Murez: i've spoken with Jill recently on the historical society, and she.

2574
04:14:18.300 --> 04:14:25.200
Robin Murez: feels like she can't do certain things because she thinks they're political I think there are things, I think.

2575
04:14:26.310 --> 04:14:33.960
Robin Murez: Mike bravo said it that there are times when this committee, you know, bringing motions to your board.

2576
04:14:34.650 --> 04:14:49.230
Robin Murez: There are things that we need to ask the city to do that these private nonprofits can't do, and so this is an effort to bring the committee together that bring the Community together and do things, for you know.

2577
04:14:50.550 --> 04:15:00.000
Robin Murez: Our culture and our history in every way we can and to speak to Robert tiptoes concern we titled this.

2578
04:15:01.290 --> 04:15:11.670
Robin Murez: Preserving public places, this has nothing to do about trying to define somebody's property as being historic, this is about.

2579
04:15:12.780 --> 04:15:23.490
Robin Murez: Saving our public places and being a clearinghouse for information people don't know where to look Jeffrey stanton who is awesome historian he's also.

2580
04:15:24.540 --> 04:15:30.690
Robin Murez: participating on wanting to pursue as a paid on this, as is Julia who's a tongue, but elder.

2581
04:15:31.710 --> 04:15:40.110
Robin Murez: And allison Jefferson, who is with the getty museum and is she's been very involved, I think.

2582
04:15:41.400 --> 04:15:43.110
Robin Murez: Mike you must know her she's been.

2583
04:15:43.380 --> 04:15:46.410
jim murez: Robin Robin excuse me i'm going to cut you off.

2584
04:15:46.470 --> 04:15:59.100
jim murez: You answer it parks question, we have a little bit more to go we're after night after 10 o'clock we're past where I wanted to go tonight, Melissa go ahead and and.

2585
04:15:59.760 --> 04:16:00.330
melissa diner : i'm good.

2586
04:16:00.960 --> 04:16:03.450
jim murez: Okay i'm Jim rob.

2587
04:16:04.380 --> 04:16:05.580
Jim Robb: yeah I got.

2588
04:16:07.650 --> 04:16:20.070
Jim Robb: I kind of wanted to confirm what Michael Clarke said it make sure it's all inclusive with vintage heritage, and you know, the first Baptist church and any other historical plot spot so that's it Thank you.

2589
04:16:22.440 --> 04:16:23.880
jim murez: Brittany didn't have your.

2590
04:16:23.940 --> 04:16:24.690
jim murez: hand up.

2591
04:16:26.910 --> 04:16:32.670
jim murez: i'm going to put your hand down assume you spoke Elizabeth did you still want to say something.

2592
04:16:33.090 --> 04:16:39.270
Elizabeth Clay: yeah, I just wanted to add that it's Nice that we say things like I just want to make sure that you include the historical.

2593
04:16:39.930 --> 04:16:45.090
Elizabeth Clay: You, we have no way to demand that they include the historical society mean that's just commentary.

2594
04:16:45.510 --> 04:16:57.990
Elizabeth Clay: I agree with Clark that historical society should be brought in, and then anyone who houses archives and houses, the history of Venice should be involved in this discussion, it kind of feels like a workaround group.

2595
04:16:58.230 --> 04:16:59.610
Robin Murez: And that's not at all.

2596
04:17:00.120 --> 04:17:01.500
Robin Murez: Sunday Sunday is.

2597
04:17:01.530 --> 04:17:02.280
jim murez: Somebody you're.

2598
04:17:02.310 --> 04:17:03.660
Elizabeth Clay: Robbing a wedding I.

2599
04:17:03.660 --> 04:17:11.910
Elizabeth Clay: flow right now so anyway that's just my impression that I haven't heard I haven't heard outreach from the other groups that are.

2600
04:17:12.420 --> 04:17:22.620
Elizabeth Clay: intimately involved already and have been for decades in this in this very arena so just want to make sure we aren't stepping on other toes before we create yet a third group.

2601
04:17:24.150 --> 04:17:25.140
jim murez: Thank you Elizabeth.

2602
04:17:25.590 --> 04:17:26.730
jim murez: Andre you have your hand up.

2603
04:17:27.720 --> 04:17:36.060
Andrea Boccaletti: I just wanted to say that to people as spoken favor of this are part of the Venice historical society, so I don't think it's going to do what this says.

2604
04:17:36.450 --> 04:17:43.410
Elizabeth Clay: hi the historical society is not in agreement with themselves and Andre you don't have the history on that.

2605
04:17:44.640 --> 04:17:45.270
Elizabeth Clay: Oh.

2606
04:17:48.060 --> 04:17:53.250
jim murez: Okay i'm seeing no additional board oh definitely you had your hand up i'm sorry.

2607
04:17:53.670 --> 04:18:04.440
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah and sorry I raised my hand, while I was listening to the conversation because i'm this them the language of the motion seems to specifically contemplate supporting.

2608
04:18:05.100 --> 04:18:15.570
Daffodil Tyminski: Historical sort of reverence for public spaces and that's what was said early on, but we just mentioned the Baptist Church, which was not a public place.

2609
04:18:16.140 --> 04:18:32.820
Daffodil Tyminski: And I heard Robin say exactly and so just getting back to Robert tomatoes point um this does seem a little dangerous to me I I absolutely believe that in public spaces, we should be.

2610
04:18:34.530 --> 04:18:43.530
Daffodil Tyminski: respecting our historic heritage, but I don't think we should be using that concept of bootstrap sort of limitations on private property that's owned.

2611
04:18:44.970 --> 04:18:54.630
Daffodil Tyminski: So I actually went from being very in favor of this in the beginning of the conversation to really against this, by the time we get to the vote and.

2612
04:18:56.730 --> 04:18:59.130
Daffodil Tyminski: I don't know where the truth lies, but I think.

2613
04:19:00.570 --> 04:19:02.760
Daffodil Tyminski: I would tend to be more conservative and voting.

2614
04:19:03.900 --> 04:19:08.370
Jim Robb: i'm the one that said Baptist church I didn't hear anybody else say that so that's that's my.

2615
04:19:08.880 --> 04:19:12.840
Daffodil Tyminski: miscue right yes well Robin then said yes exactly that's what we're talking about.

2616
04:19:14.070 --> 04:19:17.790
Jim Robb: Something that's other than what your agendas, but i'll let you go with that.

2617
04:19:19.140 --> 04:19:27.180
jim murez: i'm just gonna make one quick comment about that i'm glad that the Vice President is responsible for monitoring the committee's.

2618
04:19:28.620 --> 04:19:33.360
jim murez: will leave it up to you you'll you'll have a good handle on that i'm sure, Melissa I.

2619
04:19:33.390 --> 04:19:34.530
melissa diner : Think something.

2620
04:19:34.620 --> 04:19:37.200
jim murez: Melissa had her hand up, I sent you Melissa.

2621
04:19:37.590 --> 04:19:54.000
melissa diner : yeah I just I think that, in order to clear up this to me like public places is different than public spaces public places, then you get into like land use in buildings, potentially you're talking about.

2622
04:19:54.450 --> 04:20:01.350
melissa diner : Some of the more historic places are deemed already historic places and that's the Gray area that I think people have problems with.

2623
04:20:01.770 --> 04:20:11.730
melissa diner : So I think potentially if they're open to the friendly amendment of it just being spaces, I mean I don't know someone might be better at English than I am.

2624
04:20:11.730 --> 04:20:12.120
jim murez: So.

2625
04:20:12.210 --> 04:20:33.420
jim murez: It doesn't yielding excuse me, we can't do that um the mission statement is preserving public places, it was approved by the Ad COMP committee and we don't have the authority to modify the mission statement without sending it back dad come okay.

2626
04:20:33.570 --> 04:20:42.270
melissa diner : I mean, I think it's just if if they're okay with it it's clarify just a clarity, maybe even correction, but up to you, however, you want to handle that.

2627
04:20:42.270 --> 04:20:48.690
jim murez: yeah okay we'll leave it here for now and see boats up or down vicki you had your hand up.

2628
04:20:49.050 --> 04:21:05.850
Vicki Halliday: Do only and it has to again to do with the mission statement um there are things in here the preserving the maintaining the enhancing the revitalise station, the restoring who's going to pay for that.

2629
04:21:06.690 --> 04:21:07.320
jim murez: Excuse me.

2630
04:21:07.680 --> 04:21:09.120
Vicki Halliday: who's going to pay for that.

2631
04:21:09.660 --> 04:21:18.480
jim murez: I don't know you know that's a good question I read all of those things also I don't have the answer for you, but I can tell you that the arbor committee is doing an awesome job.

2632
04:21:18.810 --> 04:21:27.510
jim murez: And they haven't come to us for any money they just trying to do, positive stuff in the Community, this sounds to me like a very positive effort.

2633
04:21:28.890 --> 04:21:41.370
Vicki Halliday: To I get that but those things stuck out at me, are we going to be, you know hit for money, or are we going to be, I mean I don't understand how that's all going to work, because we certainly don't have the budget.

2634
04:21:41.880 --> 04:21:43.080
jim murez: Correct I agree.

2635
04:21:44.730 --> 04:21:54.060
jim murez: We may have some budget, but we don't have a budget to start restoring historic sites, but we'll worry about that, when the question comes all right, I see no additional.

2636
04:21:54.360 --> 04:22:07.560
melissa diner : Jim can can she at least just answer the question for me so i'm clear on answering as to whether they are going to be focusing on buildings or not, because I think that's important to distinguish.

2637
04:22:08.190 --> 04:22:08.910
i'm.

2638
04:22:10.320 --> 04:22:11.580
melissa diner : Is for some people.

2639
04:22:12.210 --> 04:22:23.460
jim murez: yeah i'm just looking to see if Robin still there, Robin hold on Robin go ahead, you want to answer melissa's question are you going to be working on private property or or public property.

2640
04:22:24.480 --> 04:22:37.260
Robin Murez: it's about public property it's about things like the pagodas Melissa I remember years back you brought up the pagodas on the beach, they are currently they have no paint on them they're disintegrating it's about.

2641
04:22:37.980 --> 04:22:48.240
Robin Murez: Putting emotion, to the board, and you know we'll do our homework and see if reckon parks or whomever would have the funds to do it, or maybe we get.

2642
04:22:48.900 --> 04:22:59.460
Robin Murez: paint donated and we all get out there and volunteer and do the work I did that, for the church and oakwood and then it was realized that it was actually the.

2643
04:23:00.210 --> 04:23:20.670
Robin Murez: Sunday women's club by the fact that I got paint donated and we got volunteers out and we all pain, so you know, this is about working together and Elizabeth to address your concern i'm on the Venice historical society, Sonia is originating board member of it on it.

2644
04:23:20.790 --> 04:23:22.740
Robin Murez: She was on the board meeting tonight.

2645
04:23:22.950 --> 04:23:28.350
Robin Murez: This is fully in compatible and we're embracing them.

2646
04:23:28.500 --> 04:23:31.740
Robin Murez: Right I just i'm concerned people don't understand.

2647
04:23:31.770 --> 04:23:32.580
Robin Murez: This is an issue.

2648
04:23:34.890 --> 04:23:35.460
Elizabeth Clay: I think.

2649
04:23:35.820 --> 04:23:41.820
melissa diner : I think people were concerned about property, I was just trying to clarify people i'm not concerned about this motion.

2650
04:23:42.150 --> 04:23:54.030
melissa diner : But I do just want to is it going to be like the build like the spark building or beyond broke like buildings like that that are public places, is that other things you guys been talked about.

2651
04:24:02.220 --> 04:24:03.120
jim murez: Robin do you want to ask.

2652
04:24:03.720 --> 04:24:16.080
Robin Murez: Sorry um so yeah you know, wherever there are public places that are historic So yes, the original jailhouse if we can put a plaque on that, if we can see that that is made.

2653
04:24:17.220 --> 04:24:32.370
Robin Murez: You know more visible and appreciated by the public, you know, maybe we can put together a map that everybody can easily find to see the historic sites of Venice and have pride in our multicultural community.

2654
04:24:34.170 --> 04:24:45.150
melissa diner : I guess, not from a land use perspective if that was aligned in this, then I think everyone would be more on board with that that's all I was trying to get to it for the people that question.

2655
04:24:45.450 --> 04:24:45.870
Thank you.

2656
04:24:47.520 --> 04:24:51.660
jim murez: Elizabeth i'm gonna let you be the last one to speak and then we're going to take a vote on this.

2657
04:24:52.710 --> 04:25:00.060
Elizabeth Clay: Thanks it's just The last thing I was gonna say is that, if you'd come to to us, in my opinion, with a letter from Jill.

2658
04:25:00.810 --> 04:25:12.270
Elizabeth Clay: saying you know I recommend this and we require this committee because I heard you say that Jill can be a little bit political and maybe not move things forward so Jill is the President of historical society and my right.

2659
04:25:13.230 --> 04:25:24.630
Elizabeth Clay: So that would to me, be a letter of recommendation that would really count for something the fact that two people come from a board that I understand has some disparity within the board.

2660
04:25:25.290 --> 04:25:37.290
Elizabeth Clay: does give me pause and just give me concerned because I think that we're taking a task away from the historical society that has been an active an active very active group in this Community.

2661
04:25:37.320 --> 04:25:39.150
Elizabeth Clay: So much so that you two are part of it.

2662
04:25:39.330 --> 04:25:42.840
Elizabeth Clay: So why wouldn't you take this through the historical society.

2663
04:25:43.830 --> 04:25:46.890
Robin Murez: So i'll just say quickly we had was robbed enable.

2664
04:25:46.890 --> 04:25:50.520
jim murez: dobbin we're done Thank you please don't interrupt.

2665
04:25:52.380 --> 04:25:53.190
Bruno Hernandez: Okay let's take a.

2666
04:25:53.790 --> 04:25:54.600
daffodil.

2667
04:25:57.630 --> 04:25:58.320
jim murez: What was out.

2668
04:26:00.000 --> 04:26:02.340
Daffodil Tyminski: But I don't know what that was but I said yes.

2669
04:26:02.520 --> 04:26:03.930
jim murez: Okay, I got that Melissa.

2670
04:26:06.690 --> 04:26:07.050
melissa diner : share.

2671
04:26:08.820 --> 04:26:09.270
jim murez: Andre.

2672
04:26:09.660 --> 04:26:11.370
Andrea Boccaletti: Yes, Mickey.

2673
04:26:11.730 --> 04:26:13.440
jim murez: Yes, Bruno.

2674
04:26:15.420 --> 04:26:16.020
jim murez: seema.

2675
04:26:18.180 --> 04:26:18.750
jim murez: seema.

2676
04:26:20.760 --> 04:26:21.390
Sima Kostovetsky: Yes.

2677
04:26:22.500 --> 04:26:23.100
jim murez: NICO.

2678
04:26:24.510 --> 04:26:25.050
Nico Ruderman: Yes.

2679
04:26:26.370 --> 04:26:27.060
jim murez: Jim rob.

2680
04:26:27.540 --> 04:26:28.020
that's.

2681
04:26:29.820 --> 04:26:30.330
jim murez: been.

2682
04:26:30.750 --> 04:26:32.910
jim murez: Yes, hi.

2683
04:26:43.050 --> 04:26:43.860
jim murez: Mike bravo.

2684
04:26:44.370 --> 04:26:44.850
Yes.

2685
04:26:46.020 --> 04:26:46.500
jim murez: Solid.

2686
04:26:47.550 --> 04:26:48.390
backup sorry.

2687
04:26:49.410 --> 04:26:49.950
jim murez: Solid.

2688
04:26:53.940 --> 04:26:54.750
jim murez: Solid out.

2689
04:26:57.840 --> 04:26:58.500
jim murez: cj.

2690
04:26:59.010 --> 04:26:59.580
Yes.

2691
04:27:00.630 --> 04:27:01.200
jim murez: Oliver.

2692
04:27:01.440 --> 04:27:01.830
Yes.

2693
04:27:04.050 --> 04:27:05.820
jim murez: Elizabeth know.

2694
04:27:07.530 --> 04:27:08.370
jim murez: Robert tippett oh.

2695
04:27:09.510 --> 04:27:10.050
robertthibodeau: Yes.

2696
04:27:11.790 --> 04:27:12.300
jim murez: Clark.

2697
04:27:12.540 --> 04:27:12.990
Yes.

2698
04:27:14.520 --> 04:27:19.290
jim murez: I will vote yes and Kai are you there.

2699
04:27:21.390 --> 04:27:22.260
jim murez: So it down.

2700
04:27:25.140 --> 04:27:26.850
jim murez: Motion carries.

2701
04:27:28.590 --> 04:27:29.640
jim murez: zero.

2702
04:27:32.610 --> 04:27:38.400
jim murez: Board of officer items items, not on the agenda.

2703
04:27:43.320 --> 04:27:47.670
Ivan: i'm Jim before you get there, I will point to chair of the committee.

2704
04:27:48.660 --> 04:27:49.380
um.

2705
04:27:50.430 --> 04:27:51.780
Ivan: You don't have to do it.

2706
04:27:51.780 --> 04:28:03.540
jim murez: I don't have to right now and I haven't talked to anybody about who wants to play with and who doesn't so a lot of responsibility to get done with the mission statement says, I guess i'll take that up and.

2707
04:28:05.130 --> 04:28:07.800
jim murez: appoint them sometime in between now and next month.

2708
04:28:08.340 --> 04:28:13.320
jim murez: Okay, let everybody know board officers is anybody Clark, you have your hand up go ahead.

2709
04:28:13.380 --> 04:28:28.920
clark brown: yeah I have some comments regarding a 15 but not on the merits has nothing to do the merits but, rather, and some lessons which I think we can learn from the discussion we had on on 15 I think it's very important to keep in mind that when we pass emotion.

2710
04:28:30.270 --> 04:28:48.240
clark brown: We can't compel anyone to do anything all emotion does is establish an issue for discussion and investigation and if we get bullied from carrying out such a discussion and an investigation on an important public issue.

2711
04:28:49.320 --> 04:28:56.670
clark brown: Like the availability of lots for relocating the homeless, I think we are doing ourselves a great disservice.

2712
04:28:57.540 --> 04:29:06.660
clark brown: The best way, in fact, the only way to come up with a viable solutions is to discuss them and to drill down on the facts.

2713
04:29:07.080 --> 04:29:19.410
clark brown: And this evening, the West Chester neighborhood Council prevented us from doing that I know that we've referred it to a committee, but one of the problems with referring things to committee is it all we're doing is we are.

2714
04:29:20.670 --> 04:29:37.680
clark brown: Often we are simply kicking the can down the road and not taking steps to drill down on the facts and analysis and I think we have to keep in mind that, whenever we are talking about homeless facilities there's going to be opposition.

2715
04:29:38.790 --> 04:29:53.850
clark brown: There was tremendous opposition every proposal to use any real estate in Venice for for public housing or for transition housing homelessness housing and naturally we would expect to find that.

2716
04:29:55.290 --> 04:30:00.240
clark brown: with proposals to discuss using parcels around lx four.

2717
04:30:01.530 --> 04:30:07.290
clark brown: transitions transition housing it doesn't mean that we're going to do it, but it means that we should look at it very carefully, thank you.

2718
04:30:08.580 --> 04:30:10.200
jim murez: Thank you Clark i'm.

2719
04:30:11.490 --> 04:30:12.210
jim murez: Andre go ahead.

2720
04:30:13.110 --> 04:30:15.930
Andrea Boccaletti: I just wanted to say if there's.

2721
04:30:17.100 --> 04:30:27.930
Andrea Boccaletti: Ask if there's any way going forward now that if we can have the secretary control, you know take over this program that you've created now and do the the take the minutes or.

2722
04:30:28.980 --> 04:30:30.420
Andrea Boccaletti: go through the agenda, and you know.

2723
04:30:30.510 --> 04:30:30.840
jim murez: I will.

2724
04:30:31.170 --> 04:30:32.400
jim murez: I will discuss it with her.

2725
04:30:32.580 --> 04:30:40.710
Andrea Boccaletti: yeah because it's just it seems like it's taking a long longer time to get through things and to get through the meeting so thanks.

2726
04:30:42.540 --> 04:30:43.050
jim murez: NICO.

2727
04:30:46.200 --> 04:30:51.060
Nico Ruderman: I find it very interesting that somebody who was bullied me for over a week now trying to.

2728
04:30:52.650 --> 04:30:59.430
Nico Ruderman: Stop my motion that I have every right to put forward has the nerve to call me a bully you have some nerve Clark.

2729
04:30:59.910 --> 04:31:01.020
clark brown: record every right to do.

2730
04:31:01.020 --> 04:31:02.550
Nico Ruderman: What I had some rights died.

2731
04:31:03.060 --> 04:31:03.690
Nico Ruderman: let's let's.

2732
04:31:03.840 --> 04:31:04.350
jim murez: let's keep.

2733
04:31:04.950 --> 04:31:07.080
Nico Ruderman: Jim i'm going to finish what I have to say.

2734
04:31:07.230 --> 04:31:07.860
jim murez: yeah I agree.

2735
04:31:07.920 --> 04:31:13.770
Nico Ruderman: every right to say what I did tonight, and you are out of line Clark I.

2736
04:31:14.370 --> 04:31:25.620
Nico Ruderman: Do I have supported you I have said that, I support your motion my only problem was that you didn't know outreach and to this, even now, you continue.

2737
04:31:26.400 --> 04:31:35.490
Nico Ruderman: You continue to say that you have the rights to suggest things in somebody else's neighborhood without doing any outreach you are so out of line Clark.

2738
04:31:36.360 --> 04:31:40.920
Nico Ruderman: Are gonna call me a bully for you to call me a bully when you've been bullying me.

2739
04:31:42.840 --> 04:31:48.180
Nico Ruderman: it's it's it's I don't even know where to begin you try to bully me on add column you try.

2740
04:31:48.600 --> 04:31:49.950
Nico Ruderman: To just knock down putting.

2741
04:31:49.950 --> 04:31:52.590
robertthibodeau: him down mute this.

2742
04:31:52.920 --> 04:31:55.080
Nico Ruderman: Satellite view me Robert.

2743
04:31:55.140 --> 04:31:57.300
robertthibodeau: mute unmute him, he said, one.

2744
04:31:57.450 --> 04:31:59.100
robertthibodeau: Every meeting you.

2745
04:31:59.220 --> 04:31:59.700
Nico Ruderman: guys.

2746
04:32:00.690 --> 04:32:00.960
Nico Ruderman: And you.

2747
04:32:01.350 --> 04:32:02.790
jim murez: guys are back time.

2748
04:32:03.630 --> 04:32:04.590
clark brown: I want to respond.

2749
04:32:04.680 --> 04:32:06.180
jim murez: I want to release timeout.

2750
04:32:06.210 --> 04:32:06.990
Nico Ruderman: Clark, we.

2751
04:32:07.440 --> 04:32:09.330
Nico Ruderman: now know, I want to hear his response.

2752
04:32:09.450 --> 04:32:13.860
jim murez: timeout one person at a time let's keep this simple okay.

2753
04:32:14.940 --> 04:32:16.140
jim murez: ellie has her hand up.

2754
04:32:17.430 --> 04:32:18.750
jim murez: Le go ahead.

2755
04:32:19.920 --> 04:32:36.630
Alley Bean: Oh well, actually in in the spirit of what just transpired what I was going to say but way before that was I just think I don't know how to pass, you know recommend emotion, or anything but I think if there's some way, we could work with not only West Chester but the palisades.

2756
04:32:38.040 --> 04:32:46.830
Alley Bean: neighborhood Councils to come up with really creative solutions to get people you know off the streets soon and.

2757
04:32:47.760 --> 04:32:58.230
Alley Bean: I just I just I don't know how we do it, how we could all work together, but I really think anything we could do to form a coalition would be give us a lot more strength, especially with.

2758
04:32:58.590 --> 04:33:08.550
Alley Bean: You know now that we're going to have a new Council member, I think, part of the reason that westchester felt abandoned and we did, is that we weren't getting any response from our Council member but.

2759
04:33:09.420 --> 04:33:15.120
Alley Bean: Maybe I don't know some kind of homeless coalition, or something, but I I just hope that that out of this meeting tonight.

2760
04:33:16.380 --> 04:33:27.720
Alley Bean: We can join forces and one other thing, just so that everybody knows, Sonia who's on robins committee is actually Vice President of the historical society so that's they'll be connected.

2761
04:33:28.320 --> 04:33:29.190
jim murez: Thank you ellie.

2762
04:33:29.310 --> 04:33:30.660
Alley Bean: I know okay cool sorry.

2763
04:33:30.750 --> 04:33:32.250
jim murez: i'm vicki go ahead, please.

2764
04:33:32.670 --> 04:33:48.660
Vicki Halliday: um I would suggest this, this is a place where rack could come in very handy it was why it was established, and maybe these things that involve other areas should simply be presented through Rack.

2765
04:33:50.880 --> 04:33:56.610
jim murez: You mean rather than then referencing directly to the other neighborhood Council reference it to rack.

2766
04:33:56.850 --> 04:33:57.150
yeah.

2767
04:33:58.380 --> 04:34:00.780
jim murez: Interesting thought keeps it very neutral.

2768
04:34:00.990 --> 04:34:05.940
Vicki Halliday: It keeps it neutral and it keeps all the other mcs in the loop yep.

2769
04:34:06.600 --> 04:34:08.820
jim murez: Good point let's talk about that more.

2770
04:34:09.060 --> 04:34:09.750
Vicki Halliday: Okay, thank you.

2771
04:34:09.840 --> 04:34:18.930
jim murez: um does anybody else before I go back to the two gentlemen, that are disagreeing does a bill def dice your hands up go ahead, please.

2772
04:34:19.650 --> 04:34:36.120
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah I mean I just think that people have to understand that we are operating in the real world, we are not operating in the perfect world, so we are volunteering, we all or least many of us have jobs we have things we have to do.

2773
04:34:37.500 --> 04:34:44.760
Daffodil Tyminski: We devote a lot of time to try to get it right, many people, listen to the call probably don't even understand.

2774
04:34:45.630 --> 04:34:52.380
Daffodil Tyminski: The extent to which we are consulting with the city, the city attorney's with the proletarian with each other.

2775
04:34:53.130 --> 04:35:08.370
Daffodil Tyminski: With respect to westchester with westchester to try to get it right, sometimes we do sometimes we don't I understand a lot of people seem to sort of get some sort of energy out of just pointing out all deficiencies and what we do.

2776
04:35:09.690 --> 04:35:18.030
Daffodil Tyminski: But you know, we had a lot of discussion tonight about how anti we were to westchester we had five people from westchester call in.

2777
04:35:21.240 --> 04:35:23.730
Daffodil Tyminski: As far as I know, there's a lot more people in westchester.

2778
04:35:23.730 --> 04:35:36.150
Daffodil Tyminski: Out there and we actually tried really hard to appease what they wanted, so I would just ask everyone to be a little bit more considerate of the time that your neighbors are.

2779
04:35:36.540 --> 04:35:49.140
Daffodil Tyminski: Putting into something understand that it's not a perfect process and understand that life is not a perfect process we don't operate in a vacuum and we can't necessarily dictate how everything's going to come out so.

2780
04:35:50.160 --> 04:36:00.240
Daffodil Tyminski: there's a lot of righteous indignation that I feel like is very unfounded, particularly on behalf of board members that i've never seen volunteer to help or do anything.

2781
04:36:01.680 --> 04:36:06.270
Daffodil Tyminski: So that's it I would hope in the future, people will just be more considerate of their colleagues.

2782
04:36:07.830 --> 04:36:09.210
jim murez: Thank you daffodil okay.

2783
04:36:10.800 --> 04:36:18.690
jim murez: I don't see any other new hands so i'm going to let Clark respond and then.

2784
04:36:19.770 --> 04:36:29.700
jim murez: I guess if if NICO you want to still have something else to say, we can do that, but I hope you guys keep it civil remember this is being recorded and and.

2785
04:36:31.710 --> 04:36:33.510
jim murez: We don't want it to reflect badly on anyone.

2786
04:36:34.710 --> 04:36:35.310
jim murez: Go ahead Clark.

2787
04:36:36.390 --> 04:36:44.610
clark brown: My comments that was not referring to NICO In fact I was not even addressing NICO my comments referred and address the.

2788
04:36:45.690 --> 04:36:50.040
clark brown: westchester neighborhood Council when I use the word bully maybe that was.

2789
04:36:51.270 --> 04:36:58.710
clark brown: Part advisable, maybe I should have used a different word the concept, I was trying to get across was that the.

2790
04:37:00.630 --> 04:37:11.940
clark brown: westchester neighborhood Council came across you know very hard on us and you know accused us of doing a lot of wrong things and because of that, in my view.

2791
04:37:12.780 --> 04:37:31.470
clark brown: We backed off the need to have a discussion with the westchester neighborhood Council on what we do with these parcels around la X, which, to the best of my knowledge, are the only existing available parcels for.

2792
04:37:32.670 --> 04:37:33.120
clark brown: at home.

2793
04:37:33.150 --> 04:37:40.980
jim murez: I want to stop you for a second Item number 26 board officer comments items, not on the agenda.

2794
04:37:41.220 --> 04:37:48.450
clark brown: Well, the reason for my comment was that I was verbally attacked by by NICO.

2795
04:37:48.570 --> 04:37:55.020
clark brown: Okay, as to the thrust of my comments and I certainly did not mean them okay and sold it to him.

2796
04:37:55.350 --> 04:37:58.500
clark brown: Okay, talking about the westchester neighborhood Council not him.

2797
04:37:59.220 --> 04:38:02.970
jim murez: Thank you for clarifying that NICO did you have anything else you wanted to add to that.

2798
04:38:04.140 --> 04:38:09.300
Nico Ruderman: not really except for I just I just don't believe you Clark, I mean you know you you you attacked me.

2799
04:38:10.350 --> 04:38:23.550
Nico Ruderman: And I calm and you know I just I don't believe you and once again I will reiterate, I support all the work that you've done to put into this motion and I really hope that you find a way to bring it back.

2800
04:38:25.830 --> 04:38:26.640
Nico Ruderman: it's important.

2801
04:38:27.930 --> 04:38:33.420
Nico Ruderman: And if I misunderstood, so do which I don't think I did, but if I did, I apologize.

2802
04:38:35.730 --> 04:38:49.200
Nico Ruderman: But I really do not appreciate your attack of me, bringing my emotion forward I would never attack anybody else from bringing or try and stop anybody from bringing emotion forward every right to bring my motion forward.

2803
04:38:51.000 --> 04:38:52.050
Nico Ruderman: And I stand behind it.

2804
04:38:52.830 --> 04:38:53.340
Nico Ruderman: I didn't.

2805
04:38:53.430 --> 04:38:55.440
clark brown: Attack you're like bring a motion for.

2806
04:38:55.530 --> 04:38:56.190
jim murez: You guys.

2807
04:38:56.430 --> 04:38:58.110
Nico Ruderman: to comment you you you you.

2808
04:39:00.570 --> 04:39:02.910
Nico Ruderman: Regardless regardless Clark, I will.

2809
04:39:03.450 --> 04:39:05.130
Nico Ruderman: I will, I will lend this all of ranch.

2810
04:39:06.510 --> 04:39:07.260
jim murez: yeah let's.

2811
04:39:07.320 --> 04:39:16.590
Nico Ruderman: I I am i'm I apologize, and if you would like help reaching out to westchester to to to put your motion forward again.

2812
04:39:17.640 --> 04:39:21.000
Nico Ruderman: i'm happy to help you do that because I think your motion was important.

2813
04:39:22.020 --> 04:39:30.510
Nico Ruderman: I do not, I do not, I really did feel bullied by you and I did not appreciate it, and I appreciate what you did add calm and that's all I have to say.

2814
04:39:30.990 --> 04:39:32.310
clark brown: Okay, good okay your offer.

2815
04:39:32.970 --> 04:39:39.240
jim murez: i'm going to to call a meeting adjourned at this point, I think we've we've.

2816
04:39:40.710 --> 04:39:46.140
jim murez: discussed as much of this is, we need to goodnight everyone the messenger.

2817
04:39:46.260 --> 04:39:48.900
Andrea Boccaletti: Thank you, father of all his work to thank you.

2818
04:39:49.680 --> 04:39:50.760
Vicki Halliday: good night everybody.

2819
04:39:51.210 --> 04:39:51.660
Andrea Boccaletti: good night.

2820
04:39:52.560 --> 04:39:53.160
Alley Bean: good night.

2821
04:39:53.760 --> 04:39:55.230
jim murez: good night, thank you all.

2822
04:39:57.660 --> 04:39:58.320
Robin Murez: good night.