WEBVTT 1 00:00:25.140 --> 00:00:25.770 james murez: Hello. 2 00:00:40.020 --> 00:00:46.020 james murez: come to you live from the Venice farmers market starting the neighborhood zoom meeting Friday. 3 00:00:47.370 --> 00:00:48.870 james murez: January 28. 4 00:00:50.730 --> 00:00:52.920 james murez: If I could get other people in here. 5 00:00:55.530 --> 00:01:02.400 james murez: Sufficient serpents attendees let's see pit to full list of attendees Stephen welcome Sir hand up. 6 00:01:05.550 --> 00:01:07.170 james murez: Change for all the panelists. 7 00:01:08.730 --> 00:01:11.250 james murez: The motion change role to help. 8 00:01:14.190 --> 00:01:17.010 james murez: Second, I should be able to seek out the door, and I will make. 9 00:01:18.750 --> 00:01:19.980 james murez: This super complicated. 10 00:01:21.270 --> 00:01:21.900 james murez: To tell us. 11 00:01:23.820 --> 00:01:27.780 james murez: Why from the Venice farmers market sunny southern California. 12 00:01:29.010 --> 00:01:30.060 Daffodil Tyminski: readings from Hampton. 13 00:01:30.090 --> 00:01:30.630 To. 14 00:01:36.180 --> 00:01:37.110 james murez: A close okay. 15 00:01:39.810 --> 00:01:40.260 james murez: Do you want. 16 00:01:51.600 --> 00:01:52.230 james murez: Can you hear me. 17 00:01:52.860 --> 00:01:53.220 Yes. 18 00:01:54.570 --> 00:01:56.880 james murez: Okay, good well your host you see that your host. 19 00:01:57.150 --> 00:01:59.490 Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, yes I got it Thank you so. 20 00:01:59.490 --> 00:02:10.410 james murez: Much you got control don't forget, you have to share your you have to go down to the bottom, where it says share and let all panelists share if that's what you want right it's not a default setting. 21 00:02:11.220 --> 00:02:12.090 james murez: Right okay. 22 00:02:13.260 --> 00:02:13.620 james murez: All right. 23 00:02:13.890 --> 00:02:14.160 james murez: i'm gonna. 24 00:02:14.280 --> 00:02:18.960 james murez: Find out Okay, let me call me if you if you run into problems yeah. 25 00:02:19.110 --> 00:02:20.370 Daffodil Tyminski: But well hi. 26 00:02:21.690 --> 00:02:22.290 Daffodil Tyminski: Katerina. 27 00:02:22.680 --> 00:02:24.210 Daffodil Tyminski: hi i'm doing. 28 00:02:24.930 --> 00:02:28.440 reta moser: Well i'm doing fine Yolanda is on her way over to help me get on. 29 00:02:28.770 --> 00:02:29.580 Daffodil Tyminski: Oh Nice. 30 00:02:30.600 --> 00:02:32.220 Daffodil Tyminski: Like you did just fine by yourself. 31 00:02:32.730 --> 00:02:35.340 reta moser: I did thanks for making it alive. 32 00:02:36.480 --> 00:02:37.440 reta moser: A click. 33 00:02:38.520 --> 00:02:43.500 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah i'm trying to perfect it but it's like I feel like every time it's a little bit different you know. 34 00:02:43.950 --> 00:02:44.760 reta moser: Well, it is. 35 00:02:45.060 --> 00:02:51.240 Daffodil Tyminski: But um where there's like a zoom update or the software changes or something, but hopefully we'll get it. 36 00:02:52.140 --> 00:02:52.410 yeah. 37 00:02:53.640 --> 00:03:00.540 Daffodil Tyminski: I also realized again I forgot to post them minutes so we're going to move on to the next meeting, we have like eight cents a minute, but. 38 00:03:01.740 --> 00:03:03.150 Daffodil Tyminski: Anything earth shattering is happening. 39 00:03:06.510 --> 00:03:07.710 Daffodil Tyminski: how's the New Year going. 40 00:03:08.610 --> 00:03:09.960 reta moser: The new year is going well. 41 00:03:10.800 --> 00:03:12.360 reta moser: Good yeah. 42 00:03:14.340 --> 00:03:15.150 reta moser: How about for you. 43 00:03:15.630 --> 00:03:21.270 Daffodil Tyminski: pretty good I think everyone in Venice is a little happier today than we were earlier this week. 44 00:03:22.230 --> 00:03:23.460 reta moser: I think, so too. 45 00:03:24.660 --> 00:03:28.860 Daffodil Tyminski: um it's good and we've had this great runner weather, which is amazing. 46 00:03:29.790 --> 00:03:31.710 Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, really nice oh. 47 00:03:33.000 --> 00:03:35.730 reta moser: Well, I think everyone knows that bond and is not running now. 48 00:03:36.210 --> 00:03:36.930 yeah. 49 00:03:39.570 --> 00:03:40.530 reta moser: hi hi hi. 50 00:03:40.800 --> 00:03:42.000 Daffodil Tyminski: hi good morning. 51 00:03:42.150 --> 00:03:43.920 reta moser: Good morning how you doing sweetie. 52 00:03:44.100 --> 00:03:45.450 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm great how are you. 53 00:03:48.270 --> 00:03:48.930 Daffodil Tyminski: Trying to strike up. 54 00:03:49.170 --> 00:03:52.260 reta moser: A little bit lattes regular machine with. 55 00:03:54.540 --> 00:03:54.990 reta moser: chocolate. 56 00:03:56.010 --> 00:03:56.250 reta moser: Oh. 57 00:03:57.540 --> 00:03:58.710 reta moser: OK OK. 58 00:04:00.630 --> 00:04:03.540 Daffodil Tyminski: My coffeemaker to work this morning, and then I realized I didn't have water in it. 59 00:04:03.660 --> 00:04:05.490 Daffodil Tyminski: But by the time I got it too late and. 60 00:04:06.660 --> 00:04:08.040 reta moser: Nobody else on yeah. 61 00:04:08.550 --> 00:04:12.750 Daffodil Tyminski: Now I don't see anybody logged in yeah. 62 00:04:14.160 --> 00:04:14.760 Okay, good. 63 00:04:15.810 --> 00:04:17.370 Daffodil Tyminski: My neighbor JEREMY is. 64 00:04:17.520 --> 00:04:20.790 Daffodil Tyminski: joining us do you got my email last night right. 65 00:04:22.200 --> 00:04:25.680 reta moser: No, I did I was in pasadena and I got it. 66 00:04:27.300 --> 00:04:27.690 reta moser: So. 67 00:04:28.830 --> 00:04:29.910 Daffodil Tyminski: I sent out a. 68 00:04:35.190 --> 00:04:37.080 Daffodil Tyminski: email let's see all sent. 69 00:04:42.690 --> 00:04:43.590 reta moser: me see i'll get my. 70 00:04:43.680 --> 00:04:45.120 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, everyone would have gotten it, though. 71 00:04:45.540 --> 00:04:51.030 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm my neighbor JEREMY is joining us is the north Venice REP yeah. 72 00:04:51.810 --> 00:04:52.440 Daffodil Tyminski: he's great. 73 00:04:53.730 --> 00:04:54.150 reta moser: Good. 74 00:04:55.050 --> 00:04:55.770 Daffodil Tyminski: really good guy. 75 00:04:56.370 --> 00:04:58.680 reta moser: Good are you still with the da office. 76 00:04:59.130 --> 00:04:59.670 No. 77 00:05:01.380 --> 00:05:03.240 Daffodil Tyminski: No i'm. 78 00:05:03.720 --> 00:05:04.830 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank God actually. 79 00:05:05.670 --> 00:05:09.750 Daffodil Tyminski: I have my own practice where I kind of do whatever I want. 80 00:05:11.190 --> 00:05:11.910 reta moser: that's the best. 81 00:05:12.570 --> 00:05:13.350 Daffodil Tyminski: it's the best. 82 00:05:14.670 --> 00:05:17.040 Daffodil Tyminski: Yolanda i'm going back to Barbados on Tuesday. 83 00:05:18.480 --> 00:05:19.920 reta moser: Really, are you going to go for work. 84 00:05:20.340 --> 00:05:22.230 reta moser: yeah it's pretty. 85 00:05:22.440 --> 00:05:28.680 Daffodil Tyminski: Well, you know what one of my girlfriends is going to be in Miami and she really has never been to the Caribbean and she really wanted to go somewhere. 86 00:05:29.370 --> 00:05:33.540 Daffodil Tyminski: Oh, and I said Oh well, I have an excuse to go to Barbados, so why don't we do that. 87 00:05:33.570 --> 00:05:33.960 yeah. 88 00:05:35.730 --> 00:05:36.600 reta moser: that's cool. 89 00:05:36.900 --> 00:05:38.760 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah it should be fun. 90 00:05:45.450 --> 00:05:47.310 reta moser: Little ticket comes with breakfast. 91 00:05:50.490 --> 00:05:52.470 reta moser: My little techie comes with breakfast. 92 00:05:52.800 --> 00:05:54.000 Daffodil Tyminski: Right, yes, Nice. 93 00:05:55.410 --> 00:05:56.670 reta moser: i'm her over honey. 94 00:06:00.570 --> 00:06:01.020 reta moser: yeah. 95 00:06:02.010 --> 00:06:02.640 Daffodil Tyminski: that's funny. 96 00:06:06.780 --> 00:06:11.130 reta moser: So what, how do you like the news that we got yesterday or day before yesterday. 97 00:06:11.970 --> 00:06:16.650 Daffodil Tyminski: I think everyone's pretty happy about it, but you know they're gonna run this other guy. 98 00:06:17.790 --> 00:06:18.330 reta moser: What guy. 99 00:06:19.200 --> 00:06:22.620 Daffodil Tyminski: His name is Greg good he's gonna be he's like the bond and policy replacement. 100 00:06:23.940 --> 00:06:26.880 reta moser: Oh you're kidding but they're going wait a second wait a second. 101 00:06:28.080 --> 00:06:29.490 Daffodil Tyminski: Wait hold on we've gotta. 102 00:06:30.300 --> 00:06:32.130 Daffodil Tyminski: see who is on. 103 00:06:33.600 --> 00:06:35.100 Daffodil Tyminski: Why is it not popping out. 104 00:06:37.230 --> 00:06:41.790 Daffodil Tyminski: There we go okay Darrell making you a panelist. 105 00:06:48.450 --> 00:06:50.040 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah they're running this other guy. 106 00:06:50.340 --> 00:06:51.060 reta moser: what's his name. 107 00:06:51.720 --> 00:06:52.500 Daffodil Tyminski: Great good. 108 00:06:52.680 --> 00:06:53.430 reta moser: Good good. 109 00:06:53.520 --> 00:06:57.390 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay he's like bonding and a better looking better suit. 110 00:07:05.280 --> 00:07:07.200 reta moser: But he's gonna wait till November. 111 00:07:08.490 --> 00:07:12.840 Daffodil Tyminski: I don't know, I think that part of bonding stepping down was coordinated by City Hall. 112 00:07:13.860 --> 00:07:16.830 reta moser: You know something that's what we're trying to find out. 113 00:07:17.190 --> 00:07:20.130 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah I think they knew that he was in such political peril. 114 00:07:21.330 --> 00:07:21.660 reta moser: Well, the. 115 00:07:22.680 --> 00:07:24.330 Daffodil Tyminski: seat so they're going to run this guy. 116 00:07:24.900 --> 00:07:26.490 reta moser: He hit rock bottom to. 117 00:07:26.910 --> 00:07:27.300 Daffodil Tyminski: uh huh. 118 00:07:33.210 --> 00:07:36.780 reta moser: So they're going to run you mean the Democratic Party. 119 00:07:37.350 --> 00:07:48.030 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah and like this guy like he's basically flip flopped around City Hall like now he's had a public works and he flipped flopped with Kevin James who was head of Public Works now he's the. 120 00:07:48.030 --> 00:07:50.490 Daffodil Tyminski: Legislative aide this guy used to the legislative aide. 121 00:07:50.910 --> 00:07:52.380 Daffodil Tyminski: Just one of these like. 122 00:07:52.590 --> 00:07:53.100 reta moser: I got it. 123 00:07:53.760 --> 00:07:54.990 reta moser: You know yep. 124 00:07:55.500 --> 00:07:57.660 Daffodil Tyminski: washing machine political. 125 00:07:58.380 --> 00:08:00.600 reta moser: Right yep yep yep. 126 00:08:02.820 --> 00:08:03.870 Daffodil Tyminski: it's kind of disheartening. 127 00:08:05.520 --> 00:08:06.060 reta moser: Very. 128 00:08:08.730 --> 00:08:13.350 reta moser: I think the price is going to get it in she's she's doing a good campaign. 129 00:08:14.520 --> 00:08:15.990 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah she's she's good. 130 00:08:16.230 --> 00:08:16.470 yeah. 131 00:08:26.790 --> 00:08:30.150 reta moser: Oh, this is fun, yes, good morning good morning. 132 00:08:34.200 --> 00:08:35.940 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm sending these pictures will turn. 133 00:08:36.030 --> 00:08:37.920 reta moser: anybody else on, we have a quorum. 134 00:08:38.910 --> 00:08:40.950 Daffodil Tyminski: Now just Darrell here good morning girl. 135 00:08:42.180 --> 00:08:42.900 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm. 136 00:08:43.380 --> 00:08:44.130 reta moser: I don't see him. 137 00:08:45.270 --> 00:08:49.680 reta moser: Oh, he hasn't figured out to turn on the video, yet no he uses his phone, I think. 138 00:08:51.270 --> 00:08:51.600 reta moser: Oh. 139 00:08:54.360 --> 00:08:56.070 reta moser: We have to go out to lunch with darryl. 140 00:08:57.300 --> 00:08:57.780 reta moser: today. 141 00:08:58.200 --> 00:09:00.720 Darryl DuFay: Any can you hear me, can you hear me now or. 142 00:09:01.290 --> 00:09:01.830 reta moser: Oh yes. 143 00:09:01.950 --> 00:09:02.520 man. 144 00:09:03.810 --> 00:09:10.380 Darryl DuFay: I don't know why i'm not I see my name is there, but I don't know what to press to get my shirt. 145 00:09:10.680 --> 00:09:15.420 reta moser: is the most important thing don't worry the video down at the Left corner. 146 00:09:16.740 --> 00:09:18.240 Darryl DuFay: It says start video. 147 00:09:18.540 --> 00:09:22.410 reta moser: yep got it, are you dressed. 148 00:09:24.750 --> 00:09:25.980 Darryl DuFay: Good morning, ladies. 149 00:09:27.870 --> 00:09:37.830 Darryl DuFay: Yes, Okay, yes, I saw there, I saw red a red shirt but I probably guessed it was read it and Yolanda yes hi good morning yeah. 150 00:09:39.060 --> 00:09:39.930 Darryl DuFay: This is good morning. 151 00:09:40.380 --> 00:09:42.510 Daffodil Tyminski: it's a beautiful morning chats about to join us to. 152 00:09:42.810 --> 00:09:45.240 Darryl DuFay: Oh, why do I do want to ask a. 153 00:09:45.240 --> 00:09:46.140 question. 154 00:09:47.310 --> 00:10:01.080 Darryl DuFay: Because I wanted to go over the Members, based on what was printed in the Venice neighborhood Council website and should I just wait for public comment that number four. 155 00:10:01.860 --> 00:10:04.920 Daffodil Tyminski: I mean you can just tell what I have someone's neighborhood wrong. 156 00:10:05.550 --> 00:10:06.210 Darryl DuFay: No it's. 157 00:10:06.270 --> 00:10:07.410 Darryl DuFay: it's there there. 158 00:10:07.830 --> 00:10:14.250 Darryl DuFay: I had different people's names in different places and I just wanted to find out. 159 00:10:17.370 --> 00:10:19.110 Daffodil Tyminski: This whole story now. 160 00:10:19.980 --> 00:10:21.780 Darryl DuFay: This whole thing is so. 161 00:10:22.860 --> 00:10:37.200 Darryl DuFay: Unbelievable because it was this the neighborhood the neighborhood membership was based on the Venice specific plant and the Venice specific plan has eight areas. 162 00:10:38.310 --> 00:10:43.290 Darryl DuFay: Five of the eight areas are swear south of Washington boulevard. 163 00:10:45.150 --> 00:10:48.060 Darryl DuFay: And right now the only ones that are north. 164 00:10:48.750 --> 00:10:49.440 Darryl DuFay: Are. 165 00:10:50.010 --> 00:11:10.650 Darryl DuFay: The Venice Venice canals North Venice southern area and oakwood millwood se ven us all together, and that was it so it really was it was never set up to do what you're doing now, and I brought that to Linda lux is. 166 00:11:12.480 --> 00:11:14.910 Darryl DuFay: Beating I think was 13 years ago. 167 00:11:15.450 --> 00:11:15.900 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay. 168 00:11:16.200 --> 00:11:27.780 Darryl DuFay: If you know Linda luxe I was treated as by Linda lux I brought it out, she says darryl yeah We know all about now let's get on with the meeting was the end of it. 169 00:11:28.440 --> 00:11:38.610 Daffodil Tyminski: Oh well, two things sterile very quickly at the bottom of my screen at least you I see my neighbor JEREMY lobe who is joining us as our North Venice REP. 170 00:11:39.030 --> 00:11:43.260 Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, and we have a few more folks promoting his panelist. 171 00:11:45.480 --> 00:11:45.810 Daffodil Tyminski: Which. 172 00:11:47.250 --> 00:11:48.540 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah so welcome JEREMY. 173 00:11:48.810 --> 00:11:50.460 Jeremy Loeb: Thank you welcome hi hi everyone. 174 00:11:51.570 --> 00:11:54.570 Darryl DuFay: I just, can I ask a couple questions right now. 175 00:11:54.900 --> 00:11:55.920 Daffodil Tyminski: Just very quickly. 176 00:11:57.210 --> 00:12:02.550 Daffodil Tyminski: i've had um and we'll start the meeting and one SEC we've quiet i'm just trying to get the attendees in this panel. 177 00:12:02.550 --> 00:12:03.480 Darryl DuFay: is fine, all right. 178 00:12:03.870 --> 00:12:17.070 Daffodil Tyminski: um we've had a number of people actually reach out about the composition of the neighborhood committee because it was done at a time where we weren't so Internet savvy and people really related to each other, mostly physically in person. 179 00:12:18.150 --> 00:12:26.010 Daffodil Tyminski: And now that everyone is online and doing stuff it probably doesn't make a difference that I live in North venison you live in the canals or whatever. 180 00:12:26.940 --> 00:12:35.520 Daffodil Tyminski: that's been pointed out to me a bunch of times i'm a bit agnostic on the whole thing, but we certainly can talk about the composition of the committee. 181 00:12:37.380 --> 00:12:44.190 Daffodil Tyminski: And what we could do is do a meeting earlier in February and figure out what we want to do with it, how we want it to be and what works and. 182 00:12:45.360 --> 00:12:51.660 Darryl DuFay: i'm not arguing it's just that people who are interested in an area that we say is a neighbor would. 183 00:12:52.740 --> 00:13:03.630 Darryl DuFay: have asked to be on the committee and that's fine that's the way it's evolved, so I have different people for different things So yes, if you want to do that we find with me. 184 00:13:04.710 --> 00:13:09.930 Daffodil Tyminski: Right and I guess i'm i'm i'm happy to do what everybody is for. 185 00:13:12.570 --> 00:13:18.270 Daffodil Tyminski: But let's talk about it i'll put it on the agenda next month, and maybe we'll do something a little earlier in February, because. 186 00:13:19.320 --> 00:13:21.390 Daffodil Tyminski: The bylaws are going to be updated. 187 00:13:23.340 --> 00:13:28.260 Daffodil Tyminski: And so we could get this in update and just have it functioning, the way we want. 188 00:13:28.650 --> 00:13:30.150 Darryl DuFay: that's fine, I just wanted to bring it up. 189 00:13:30.930 --> 00:13:31.980 reta moser: Okay, what. 190 00:13:32.100 --> 00:13:35.220 reta moser: Are they going to be updated by the by done or by us. 191 00:13:36.060 --> 00:13:40.920 Daffodil Tyminski: So i'm the way it works um. 192 00:13:41.970 --> 00:13:55.260 Daffodil Tyminski: hold on one SEC you guys cassie oh you're coming in okay got it you're not on as a panelist, but I just put it so you could talk, if you want to join us a panelist raise your hand but I tried getting it in. 193 00:13:58.080 --> 00:14:04.140 Daffodil Tyminski: What happens is the rules and selections Committee as a task force that is updating the bylaws they will bring them to the board. 194 00:14:04.650 --> 00:14:15.150 Daffodil Tyminski: And then, then they go to done and as far as I understand it done basically does whatever they want with them, which is kind of annoying because you spent a lot of time on it, then they can just arbitrarily, you know strike things out. 195 00:14:17.040 --> 00:14:23.460 reta moser: And we straight down who's on the rules and selection committee because last time it was run by john reed and you did a good job on it. 196 00:14:25.200 --> 00:14:33.120 Daffodil Tyminski: Sure let's take that conversation offline and start the meeting, though, because it's a 34 and we have a member of the public here. 197 00:14:34.650 --> 00:14:42.540 Daffodil Tyminski: Let me pull up the agenda so i'm going to call the meeting to order and take role, and let me just take some notes here. 198 00:14:46.530 --> 00:14:47.940 Daffodil Tyminski: hold on one SEC guys. 199 00:15:02.160 --> 00:15:04.380 reta moser: Good little question on home good. 200 00:15:08.580 --> 00:15:15.780 Daffodil Tyminski: Alright, everyone so welcome to the neighborhood committee meeting for January um Let me take a role first. 201 00:15:16.860 --> 00:15:18.240 Daffodil Tyminski: Obviously gap is here. 202 00:15:20.730 --> 00:15:21.690 Daffodil Tyminski: Charles rosen. 203 00:15:22.500 --> 00:15:22.830 here. 204 00:15:24.330 --> 00:15:24.990 Daffodil Tyminski: Yolanda. 205 00:15:25.380 --> 00:15:26.010 yeah. 206 00:15:27.120 --> 00:15:27.690 Daffodil Tyminski: Rita. 207 00:15:28.110 --> 00:15:30.030 Daffodil Tyminski: error Sergio. 208 00:15:31.500 --> 00:15:31.860 Sergio Pérez: here. 209 00:15:32.610 --> 00:15:33.420 Daffodil Tyminski: hi Sergio. 210 00:15:34.680 --> 00:15:35.760 Daffodil Tyminski: Darrell do you say. 211 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:36.420 Your. 212 00:15:37.680 --> 00:15:38.520 Daffodil Tyminski: William would. 213 00:15:39.180 --> 00:15:39.870 William Wood: morning. 214 00:15:40.530 --> 00:15:42.990 Daffodil Tyminski: Good morning cassie handsome boy. 215 00:15:46.170 --> 00:15:50.070 Daffodil Tyminski: Who I see there cassie may have to unmute yourself. 216 00:15:52.980 --> 00:15:54.480 Daffodil Tyminski: or raise your hand. 217 00:15:57.000 --> 00:16:00.150 Daffodil Tyminski: There you go okay cassius here, Jeremy. 218 00:16:03.450 --> 00:16:03.900 Daffodil Tyminski: And JEREMY. 219 00:16:04.290 --> 00:16:04.770 Do. 220 00:16:06.120 --> 00:16:06.480 Daffodil Tyminski: Good. 221 00:16:08.460 --> 00:16:11.850 Daffodil Tyminski: For those of you that didn't hear it JEREMY just joined us as our North Venice rap. 222 00:16:12.270 --> 00:16:13.260 reta moser: World here. 223 00:16:14.460 --> 00:16:22.800 Daffodil Tyminski: We have actually a few applicants for the remaining positions, there were just things that they didn't turn on with the application so hopefully by next month will be complete. 224 00:16:24.720 --> 00:16:30.270 Daffodil Tyminski: Does everyone very quickly just want to introduce or I should have done this with role but say what neighborhood you represent. 225 00:16:31.530 --> 00:16:33.900 Daffodil Tyminski: So JEREMY has some idea of who's who and what's what. 226 00:16:37.560 --> 00:16:39.120 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm chuck why don't you go ahead. 227 00:16:39.270 --> 00:16:41.580 Chuck Rosin: Okay Hello JEREMY i'm chuck. 228 00:16:41.580 --> 00:16:43.860 Chuck Rosin: Right, I live in this world. 229 00:16:44.580 --> 00:16:48.240 Chuck Rosin: Where Jews, I don't know familiar where that area. 230 00:16:48.570 --> 00:16:49.200 Jeremy Loeb: What is that. 231 00:16:49.980 --> 00:16:51.420 Chuck Rosin: I live in the silver triangle. 232 00:16:51.480 --> 00:16:52.230 Jeremy Loeb: Oh yes, of course. 233 00:16:52.470 --> 00:16:52.740 yeah. 234 00:16:53.940 --> 00:16:55.620 Chuck Rosin: which I often call the suburbs. 235 00:16:56.700 --> 00:16:57.480 Jeremy Loeb: Yes, they are. 236 00:16:57.600 --> 00:16:58.470 Jeremy Loeb: kind of suburbia. 237 00:17:00.420 --> 00:17:02.280 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm Yolanda why don't you go next. 238 00:17:02.520 --> 00:17:25.800 reta moser: Yes, i'm Yolanda one saw this and i'm on Abbot kinney and Venice and i'm watching out for that area up to Abbot kinney and then up north, south in my surrounding area which is Venice way and a little bit towards the North and we're real toys I just I just go that far, to keep everything. 239 00:17:26.160 --> 00:17:26.610 Jeremy Loeb: Thank you. 240 00:17:27.810 --> 00:17:29.490 Daffodil Tyminski: Alright Rita why don't you go next. 241 00:17:29.970 --> 00:17:31.320 reta moser: i'm the Oxford triangle. 242 00:17:31.740 --> 00:17:32.280 All right. 243 00:17:34.500 --> 00:17:41.880 Daffodil Tyminski: um Sergio is a bit unusual because he's an add on but Sergio go ahead describe what you're doing. 244 00:17:43.050 --> 00:17:49.020 Sergio Pérez: um Sorry, I represent the business says on Lincoln boulevard by linking them Dennis. 245 00:17:50.280 --> 00:17:51.090 Sergio Pérez: The business side. 246 00:17:51.660 --> 00:17:51.990 Jeremy Loeb: Thank you. 247 00:17:52.620 --> 00:17:54.240 reta moser: Mr Dan Lincoln do you go. 248 00:17:55.470 --> 00:18:00.000 Sergio Pérez: i'm between Lincoln and rose, I mean venison rose. 249 00:18:01.140 --> 00:18:01.710 reta moser: Oh hey. 250 00:18:03.570 --> 00:18:15.630 Daffodil Tyminski: We just said, you know what one thing you can do a neighbor to add on folks if there's a special interest or need in a particular neighborhood that's maybe not set out in the bylaws and so when Sergio reached out, I thought it was a great idea because. 251 00:18:15.750 --> 00:18:18.840 Daffodil Tyminski: The merchants along the link and I think, do you have pretty much a unique. 252 00:18:19.710 --> 00:18:20.850 Daffodil Tyminski: perspective of an issue. 253 00:18:21.270 --> 00:18:22.290 reta moser: I just wish you were. 254 00:18:23.310 --> 00:18:24.690 reta moser: further south to. 255 00:18:25.920 --> 00:18:29.760 Daffodil Tyminski: Well, we can talk about that um I towel go ahead. 256 00:18:30.000 --> 00:18:32.400 reta moser: I think he should have Presidents row represented. 257 00:18:34.800 --> 00:18:35.760 Darryl DuFay: Venice Canal. 258 00:18:38.340 --> 00:18:39.780 Daffodil Tyminski: And William. 259 00:18:40.470 --> 00:18:42.840 Jeremy Loeb: usefulness great. 260 00:18:45.150 --> 00:18:46.170 Daffodil Tyminski: And i'm cassie. 261 00:18:50.820 --> 00:19:02.550 Daffodil Tyminski: And I think cassie is muted and can't turn on so cassie jump in if you are able to unmute but, otherwise, we can we can hit it next time. 262 00:19:04.590 --> 00:19:06.270 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, and jeremy's norsemen us. 263 00:19:08.010 --> 00:19:12.840 Jeremy Loeb: and North Venice dad it goes down to what street do you do we know offhand. 264 00:19:13.590 --> 00:19:28.740 Daffodil Tyminski: Your North Venice is a really big neighborhood that it covers all the walk streets beside it covers between main and Pacific and then it goes up Abbot kinney and covers down to one word. 265 00:19:29.340 --> 00:19:34.050 Jeremy Loeb: goes down to one word up to up to navy and yes. 266 00:19:34.230 --> 00:19:40.800 Daffodil Tyminski: Oh yeah um and again it's a neighborhood that probably like the oakland neighborhood could be broken out a little bit. 267 00:19:42.570 --> 00:19:51.540 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so let's move on and let me just we've got some more participants here, let me just make sure there's nobody that needs to be led in or. 268 00:19:57.480 --> 00:20:03.480 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so a public comment is two items, not on the agenda that are related to the neighborhood committee. 269 00:20:04.530 --> 00:20:06.270 Daffodil Tyminski: Oh i'm sorry wait strike that. 270 00:20:07.590 --> 00:20:17.310 Daffodil Tyminski: guys I I thought I had posted the Minutes but they didn't post properly, so I realized, no one has them so we're just gonna have to do three of them, the next meeting i'll get them all up there. 271 00:20:18.180 --> 00:20:25.470 Daffodil Tyminski: we've been working on the website and calendaring and all that stuff and, for some reason, they just dropped off so let's skip number three for today. 272 00:20:28.230 --> 00:20:39.060 Daffodil Tyminski: number for public comment on items, not on the agenda related to the neighborhood committee if anyone has such a comment among the participants raise your hand and we can hear it now. 273 00:20:43.230 --> 00:20:46.470 Daffodil Tyminski: Anyone I have cassie be Matthew hines and Nikki heart. 274 00:20:49.830 --> 00:20:52.320 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, seeing no hands let's move on to number five. 275 00:20:53.490 --> 00:20:58.920 Daffodil Tyminski: we've had over the past couple months some issues we've addressed and I thought it might be nice to start with. 276 00:21:00.210 --> 00:21:04.950 Daffodil Tyminski: Just an update as to what's happening i'm just a minute, you know nothing big. 277 00:21:06.210 --> 00:21:10.560 Daffodil Tyminski: So why don't we start with fema chuck endorse Yolanda do you want to go ahead. 278 00:21:11.070 --> 00:21:12.390 reta moser: yeah i'm. 279 00:21:13.470 --> 00:21:27.480 reta moser: i've been i'm i'm helping to candidates for the supervisors position they've come to my home and i've shown them my paperwork, in which I was mandated. 280 00:21:29.550 --> 00:21:42.810 reta moser: Without proper notice to have a to close to a $3,000 a flood insurance that didn't include the costs that you have to sign up and it had to be a one shot deal. 281 00:21:43.230 --> 00:21:54.540 reta moser: And they looked at it and then they just can't believe this is happening so we're going to them if they get elected they're going to go ahead and do an invest in investigation, how is it the fema. 282 00:21:55.050 --> 00:22:06.870 reta moser: And the city did not properly end the county did not properly notify us that this was happening because I told them that prior before there was a few months to sign up. 283 00:22:07.350 --> 00:22:22.500 reta moser: I had my loan was sold to another lender and they didn't even know about it that I had to be mandated and then that was applied to my loan so we're working on it and we're going to go further, to see how we can do it to. 284 00:22:23.670 --> 00:22:43.530 reta moser: see if the Community is ready to fight this because i've met a lot of people that are just beyond it should be by choice know what it's they have flood areas in the United States, yes, but this really is, it is not a flood air yeah, this is not a flood area and the Mississippi. 285 00:22:45.090 --> 00:22:46.380 reta moser: we're not the by you, but. 286 00:22:47.640 --> 00:23:05.100 reta moser: anyways so i'm i'm not going to give up, because there is no stop clause on it and first of all, they charge me for my flood insurance without knowing what the policy was going to cover me and i'm only covered to $200,000 and there's a. 287 00:23:06.300 --> 00:23:10.290 reta moser: it's just very complicated i'm gonna follow through okay. 288 00:23:10.770 --> 00:23:13.290 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay chuck do you have anything to add. 289 00:23:13.770 --> 00:23:17.850 Chuck Rosin: Yes, I do, I take a little bit of a different position and Yolanda does. 290 00:23:19.050 --> 00:23:34.500 Chuck Rosin: i'm looking at because I I bought insurance almost early on and in Florida, and it was a half the cost what Yolanda quoted and and for. 291 00:23:35.760 --> 00:23:38.010 Chuck Rosin: More more number of damage. 292 00:23:39.030 --> 00:23:42.870 Chuck Rosin: as well, but i'm looking at something that we got sent. 293 00:23:44.610 --> 00:23:45.960 Chuck Rosin: Here and. 294 00:23:47.340 --> 00:23:59.730 Chuck Rosin: it's from the city of Los Angeles national flood insurance program annual newsletter November 2021 and I did send one to you earlier Jeff I think you have that i've got it here and. 295 00:24:01.110 --> 00:24:17.850 Chuck Rosin: i'll send it to anybody or put it to the APP and she's got it um there are things that are they give us the national fema number, they need, you need a flood insurance agent, I mean they're they're actually putting out into comes out of the euro of engineering. 296 00:24:19.380 --> 00:24:23.490 Chuck Rosin: This program and look at you know. 297 00:24:25.710 --> 00:24:39.600 Chuck Rosin: The first, very interesting I don't believe that the like my friend Marjorie, for instance, lives in the canals insurance so on Venice boulevard it's it's considered a pretty low lying place. 298 00:24:40.620 --> 00:24:42.720 Chuck Rosin: And you know when we have the. 299 00:24:44.280 --> 00:24:56.790 Chuck Rosin: There was that volcano explosion in the Pacific, you know, though it wasn't a gracious I mean you know, a parking lot flooded in in Santa Cruz, I believe. 300 00:24:57.270 --> 00:25:12.510 Chuck Rosin: We didn't get it at much, but this is what our future in this area will be that, and this is the area of that at least fema and the army corps of engineers says they just is most vulnerable so. 301 00:25:13.230 --> 00:25:25.110 Chuck Rosin: And I think it's it's very important for an argument that's very so i'm monitoring and i'm on it, and I have this to share and you can see a few things where they really talked about. 302 00:25:26.550 --> 00:25:32.250 Chuck Rosin: You know when disaster strikes and and about the mandatory purchase requirement and how it works and. 303 00:25:32.730 --> 00:25:42.660 Chuck Rosin: There is financial assistance sources so there's all sorts of Nice information in this that I think will be a value to those the residents who live on. 304 00:25:43.590 --> 00:25:58.770 Chuck Rosin: On Venice boulevard area and North and South, maybe, and who got it I also happened to be on a conference call last Friday, with our Congressman a different matter, but I did bring this up and. 305 00:25:59.970 --> 00:26:14.400 Chuck Rosin: He assured me that he's an environmentalist and but he didn't want to talk about sea level rise sea level rise is really important, in the battle that we're having with the Venice Community housing, because they are putting. 306 00:26:15.360 --> 00:26:22.710 Chuck Rosin: They would like to put their project at the gateway at the Venice median, which is vital in terms of. 307 00:26:24.630 --> 00:26:37.050 Chuck Rosin: To get rid of if there is flooding, I think Darrell could probably even top where i'm at specific issue within with an Ikea like Dr so, in other words, this isn't something to. 308 00:26:38.010 --> 00:26:49.080 Chuck Rosin: just say hey we're not Mississippi you know we might be many of us will be a you know just a memory by that point, but I think the area is vulnerable, and I think there was some. 309 00:26:51.960 --> 00:26:52.860 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, thanks, Joe. 310 00:26:54.120 --> 00:26:55.380 reta moser: interject a little bit. 311 00:26:56.400 --> 00:26:58.080 Daffodil Tyminski: Sure, but make it quick because we've. 312 00:26:58.080 --> 00:26:59.340 Daffodil Tyminski: got a bunch of things to get through. 313 00:26:59.580 --> 00:27:16.470 reta moser: Yes, i'm on my property for over 25 years and all of a sudden, I get mandated for flood insurance, first of all let me tell you something when we had the warning of the of the tsunami, as Vice President, in the past, why didn't the alarms go on that we had put in. 314 00:27:17.790 --> 00:27:26.580 reta moser: They should have gone on for 25,000 yeah for 25,000 that's exactly right they didn't go on, there was no alarm system going on. 315 00:27:27.690 --> 00:27:38.040 reta moser: And I want to find out why those alarm systems didn't go on, and second, of all we've done studies in which, first of all, we are sort of in a way, protected by the Santa Monica bay. 316 00:27:38.850 --> 00:27:50.430 reta moser: And we can see it coming into the Marina because I have a boat and you can see, the water shaking a little bit so yeah exactly and so um but. 317 00:27:50.940 --> 00:27:58.080 reta moser: that's what I want to say, and not only that now, if you look at your policy you're only covered to a certain amount and I happen to have a building, not a home. 318 00:27:58.620 --> 00:28:13.350 reta moser: And if we even had a flood who's gonna who's going to finish paying the mortgage on the land, not the building I don't care what happens to the building it's you're still stuck with payment on on on the land, even if it's flooded. 319 00:28:14.370 --> 00:28:14.880 reta moser: Thank you. 320 00:28:15.270 --> 00:28:15.750 Okay. 321 00:28:16.860 --> 00:28:23.610 Daffodil Tyminski: All right, well, I may talk with both you guys offline and we'll try to figure out a path forward and what we do to bring this issue more. 322 00:28:23.760 --> 00:28:27.660 Chuck Rosin: Anybody who wants to see what the city is telling us and answer some of the questions. 323 00:28:28.320 --> 00:28:34.710 Chuck Rosin: posed, I do have that material send it to you directly or i'll send it to death and she'll send it to you. 324 00:28:34.980 --> 00:28:38.610 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, and i'll start posting all this on the website and under resources. 325 00:28:39.720 --> 00:28:41.160 reta moser: it's a thing about fema. 326 00:28:41.850 --> 00:28:49.950 reta moser: Sure fema just comes in and arbitrarily sees water and they just project from that area inward. 327 00:28:51.480 --> 00:29:12.420 reta moser: To cover certain things, I had a place in mar vista and suddenly I got fema insurance, I mean posted on my loan, and the reason was after we investigated was because of the La river, which was I don't know how far away from there but they had just anyway, I got it removed after. 328 00:29:13.710 --> 00:29:14.880 reta moser: A lot of tribulation. 329 00:29:15.270 --> 00:29:16.650 Daffodil Tyminski: Right okay. 330 00:29:16.980 --> 00:29:17.760 Daffodil Tyminski: good to know. 331 00:29:18.600 --> 00:29:30.060 Daffodil Tyminski: um all right let's move on to number six I I This may be a bigger topic, then we want to get into today, and I think there's a lot of things in flux on at the moment but. 332 00:29:32.190 --> 00:29:34.440 Daffodil Tyminski: JEREMY Have you had any contact with anyone. 333 00:29:35.760 --> 00:29:45.510 Darryl DuFay: i've had i've had contact, but I went back and looked at all the stuff I had in my computer and I have sent you three different articles. 334 00:29:45.810 --> 00:29:46.230 uh huh. 335 00:29:47.970 --> 00:29:57.510 Darryl DuFay: Because what has bothered me totally in terms of the Venice Venice neighborhood Council way past motion after motion after motion. 336 00:29:58.080 --> 00:30:02.940 Darryl DuFay: And it seems, no one follows up with whatever happens to that motion. 337 00:30:03.720 --> 00:30:14.640 Darryl DuFay: And one of the things that has to do with that is they're saying well why can't you people are doing this thing etc so that's why I sent out what I found was very. 338 00:30:15.090 --> 00:30:25.140 Darryl DuFay: Interesting what we're called bomblets bomblets I don't know if any of you have read that that is the change that was made. 339 00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:39.300 Darryl DuFay: About four years ago, or they they were they identified 91 misdemeanors which were reduced to infractions and it covers. 340 00:30:39.960 --> 00:30:59.220 Darryl DuFay: i'm not going to go over them because I sent you a list of them with anything that you can think about that you say Oh, why are they not, why are they not enforcing this Okay, why are they not enforcing this, if you will look at that list of infractions which could get you a citation. 341 00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:11.880 Darryl DuFay: Almost all of that is enforced not enforceable, or they decided not to enforce it, and then what happened was that these city attorney. 342 00:31:13.170 --> 00:31:23.700 Darryl DuFay: decided that they were going to remove infraction infractions 2 million of them, and especially for the homeless, who they said. 343 00:31:24.210 --> 00:31:44.730 Darryl DuFay: If you have an infraction and they have a citation and they citation has a fine they cannot pay the fine because they don't have any money so it's it's it's it's major things and i've been at the rv specifically I I the senior lead officer. 344 00:31:46.350 --> 00:31:59.940 Darryl DuFay: was at a meeting and she said that they were talking about arby's and etc, and you have signs about this that and the other thing, she said, the City Council says they're not going to impound any rv. 345 00:32:00.810 --> 00:32:12.060 Darryl DuFay: So the whole issue is are these we know about them, we have signs, etc, etc bottom line for all of these things, there is not the enforcement. 346 00:32:12.930 --> 00:32:37.800 Darryl DuFay: resources available lapd cannot do it the present attorney district attorney does not want to enforce anything and that is just kind of a short thing that I was trying to find information to bring to you that you can look at to see why things that we bring up. 347 00:32:40.020 --> 00:32:43.680 Darryl DuFay: And there are concerns nothing's being done about them. 348 00:32:44.220 --> 00:32:52.470 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah I know from my own interaction on this issue that the police are basically hamstrung by city council. 349 00:32:52.650 --> 00:33:01.950 Daffodil Tyminski: that's when until there's a paradigm shift and City Council I don't think the police are going to do anything I think other law enforcement agencies are starting to. 350 00:33:02.550 --> 00:33:11.250 Daffodil Tyminski: Like get really bothered by the cities and action and so maybe there'll be something that comes out of the sheriff's department or she thinks this is the feds or something but. 351 00:33:13.080 --> 00:33:17.280 Daffodil Tyminski: My my research has basically confirmed with darryl said yeah. 352 00:33:18.240 --> 00:33:22.500 Darryl DuFay: My point they i'm sorry to interrupt you, but my point being. 353 00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:29.220 Darryl DuFay: I hope people don't think because we talk about emotion and put it in. 354 00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:39.840 Darryl DuFay: something's going to happen, because the background behind it should first say don't say something that you can't that you can't do thank you. 355 00:33:41.520 --> 00:33:42.510 Daffodil Tyminski: Alright, thanks Darrell. 356 00:33:44.070 --> 00:34:02.910 Daffodil Tyminski: Alright well we'll keep this as a live issue and report back in case things change and let's move on to number seven which is we had addressed earlier pickle ball in Venice i've had a lot of outreach about pickle ball and we have a member of the voices yeah. 357 00:34:02.970 --> 00:34:04.650 reta moser: With a shorter oh yeah. 358 00:34:05.070 --> 00:34:06.630 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm tempted. 359 00:34:07.710 --> 00:34:09.270 Chuck Rosin: Wait to the discussion happens. 360 00:34:09.300 --> 00:34:10.170 Daffodil Tyminski: I know okay. 361 00:34:10.350 --> 00:34:12.540 Chuck Rosin: I I just myself. 362 00:34:13.170 --> 00:34:14.520 Chuck Rosin: Okay, so. 363 00:34:14.580 --> 00:34:21.300 Daffodil Tyminski: There you know, initially, when this came to me that request was bringing it depend mar I thought well let's take a broader look at Venice in general. 364 00:34:22.200 --> 00:34:30.900 Daffodil Tyminski: There apparently is already a program on the beach and the pickle ball people really prefer pen mar and the pedal all people really don't want pick a ball so. 365 00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:47.040 Daffodil Tyminski: I spoke with a proponent of pickup ball and Venice, who has joined our call today as an attendee and they are focused on penn mar and if we you know my thinking is next month will bring this back as an actual motion, but she is here today. 366 00:34:48.210 --> 00:35:01.230 Daffodil Tyminski: For public comment, so let me have her make some public comment about what interaction she's had with penn mar and then chuck if you want to go ahead, you can report to that make sense okay um. 367 00:35:02.880 --> 00:35:10.980 Daffodil Tyminski: And Nikki I see you're on the phone if you unmute yourself and you want to talk about this, you can and if not, I can get a reward for you. 368 00:35:11.970 --> 00:35:28.170 nickyhart: Yes, well, first of all let me thank the members of the board for addressing this issue at a previous meeting it's very much appreciated by people ball players from novice there and then so Marina del rey. 369 00:35:30.690 --> 00:35:32.700 nickyhart: And it's I think it has. 370 00:35:34.560 --> 00:35:47.310 nickyhart: To support you know to to refer to donald's point, it may well have had some influence at penn law I don't know that for sure, but I have had a an update. 371 00:35:48.120 --> 00:35:57.540 nickyhart: From yesterday evening, I was contacted by the recreational coordinator at penn ma who who had a meeting with us. 372 00:35:58.200 --> 00:36:06.570 nickyhart: With pickup ball players last May, when we first started to try to negotiate access to one tennis court. 373 00:36:07.080 --> 00:36:26.610 nickyhart: To set up for pickle ball courts for introductory sessions run by volunteers, he came and showed enormous enthusiasm, referring to his role as in rolling out pickle ball at Panama, but subsequently we were disappointed by. 374 00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:38.160 nickyhart: A failure to start or to respond to to further efforts to to get the to literally get the ball rolling and. 375 00:36:39.720 --> 00:36:46.650 nickyhart: And this this ended up with us carrying out producing a petition and. 376 00:36:47.490 --> 00:37:16.590 nickyhart: Even a quite detailed survey of the you know what what people ball offers how many players, there are in district 11 and how many people could potentially benefit, especially seniors and women by the introduction of people ball facilities at penn ma and we finally had a meeting in. 377 00:37:18.150 --> 00:37:21.930 nickyhart: December, I think it was partly set up through the. 378 00:37:21.960 --> 00:37:22.980 Good agency. 379 00:37:24.300 --> 00:37:34.500 nickyhart: or public land who i'd written to to ask for their support and they so we had a meeting with the superintendent of. 380 00:37:35.520 --> 00:37:43.680 nickyhart: whose duties include Panama park and the park Director, Mr Gregory Thomas it was a friendly. 381 00:37:45.510 --> 00:37:54.510 nickyhart: Meeting discussing the options and possibilities, I was told that the city of La has created a committee. 382 00:37:54.870 --> 00:38:10.230 nickyhart: To consider pick a wall, although frankly there's so much already known about how the best way forward for establishing decoupled sessions that there's not a lot of work that the committee. 383 00:38:11.010 --> 00:38:24.240 nickyhart: has to decide upon but and, as I say, we had a meeting finally in December and subsequently i've written twice to the director and finally yesterday. 384 00:38:25.980 --> 00:38:43.860 nickyhart: o'clock when I opened my email, there was an email from the recreational coordinator and I don't know if it was spared spurred by the fact that this is now an issue on your agenda this morning, or whether or not it was just a coincidence. 385 00:38:45.060 --> 00:38:45.630 nickyhart: But. 386 00:38:46.920 --> 00:38:57.990 nickyhart: he's asked he's let me know that volunteers who participate in a pickle ball program would need to be live scanned and fingerprinted. 387 00:38:58.290 --> 00:38:58.830 nickyhart: And is. 388 00:38:59.160 --> 00:39:00.510 nickyhart: The application for. 389 00:39:01.710 --> 00:39:11.700 nickyhart: This to go ahead so i've already contacted three other volunteers who are skilled at football and ready to help. 390 00:39:12.300 --> 00:39:31.500 nickyhart: and, hopefully, will become live scanned and we'll get fingerprinted and then something might be happening at 10 last since they wouldn't be asking us to do this if they're not ready to go ahead in some form or another, and I. 391 00:39:31.800 --> 00:39:35.250 Daffodil Tyminski: I i'm sorry, let me interrupt for one second who were you speaking to a primer. 392 00:39:36.210 --> 00:39:53.790 nickyhart: Well, originally i've been in touch with them somebody called friend Francisca pastels who's the kind of upper superintendent of of the parks in the locality she attended the meeting in December. 393 00:39:54.270 --> 00:39:56.130 Daffodil Tyminski: And it's called you about the LIFE scan. 394 00:39:56.700 --> 00:40:06.540 nickyhart: The life scan was his name is Andy felts F e l zed Z and he. 395 00:40:07.590 --> 00:40:19.800 nickyhart: he's already visited with us last May at memorial park where then his players play football and and he's been supportive and. 396 00:40:23.160 --> 00:40:44.670 nickyhart: You know, enthusiastic about the program but unfortunately the line went dead about June, July last year when when the funds were on the agenda to resurface the ports and but the the contact was rekindled yesterday after I after I spoke to you. 397 00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:53.580 nickyhart: On the telephone and I, you know I couldn't help wondering, is this coincidental or is it is it. 398 00:40:54.030 --> 00:41:03.630 nickyhart: Somehow connected with the fact that the neighborhood Council neighborhood Committee has taken this up as an issue and as offered as has. 399 00:41:04.170 --> 00:41:26.580 nickyhart: has made public, its support for the potential development of people both facilities at penn our part there's already an initiative going on in in the palisades and there's been a couple of introductory sessions at westchester so things have be slowly beginning to move and. 400 00:41:28.080 --> 00:41:36.780 nickyhart: So i'm feeling a bit more optimistic this morning than I was yesterday when I when I spoke to you daffodil i'm hoping that. 401 00:41:37.140 --> 00:41:40.890 nickyhart: yeah when four of us get live scan whatever that means. 402 00:41:41.910 --> 00:41:48.210 nickyhart: We learn will be you know there'll be ready to make a quarter available. 403 00:41:48.660 --> 00:42:02.580 nickyhart: And at that point we'll be putting on i've asked for three introductory four hour sessions once a week on one sorry three times a week three sessions every week. 404 00:42:03.150 --> 00:42:12.390 nickyhart: And where we're at no cost will local players will be invite potential players and. 405 00:42:12.810 --> 00:42:29.130 nickyhart: Existing players will be invited to come and play pickup ball, with some introductory lessons made available for people who've never tried the sport before we will be providing portable nets will be taping the courts. 406 00:42:29.670 --> 00:42:46.470 nickyhart: And will be providing the balls so this wherever this is previously it's taken off and become very successful and i'm optimistic that that will have a new dimension of. 407 00:42:47.580 --> 00:42:54.870 nickyhart: recreational activity at Piedmont park at some point, hopefully in 22. 408 00:42:55.800 --> 00:43:04.980 Daffodil Tyminski: awesome Thank you Nikki I did call pen more yesterday, but just left a message I don't know if that prompted someone to reach out, but progress is progress i'm chuck why don't you go ahead. 409 00:43:05.550 --> 00:43:15.330 Chuck Rosin: hey I I didn't have anything to do with pen or but i've been spending this last month or last meeting I spent a fair amount of time and all apart, which is down at. 410 00:43:16.410 --> 00:43:30.090 Chuck Rosin: Their in delray I guess it's the exact place where it I don't pass Mindanao I stay on glencoe and where it hits Allah is a really great don Parker big space. 411 00:43:30.510 --> 00:43:37.830 Chuck Rosin: Even more space than they need there's also tennis courts and paddleball courts, the patent law courts are right behind where the dogs are. 412 00:43:38.550 --> 00:43:53.610 Chuck Rosin: i've watched players of paddleball come in and out, and I would say that it's a it's a very popular spot at peak times even it oftentimes it's used people are there, so the idea of that. 413 00:43:54.990 --> 00:44:00.450 Chuck Rosin: You know that there's a lot of support for paddleball as well, but i've also noticed in this park. 414 00:44:01.110 --> 00:44:05.160 Chuck Rosin: And I know it's not necessary pen mark there that if you took some of the dog. 415 00:44:05.580 --> 00:44:11.700 Chuck Rosin: park away with the small dogs, because the small dogs all hang out with the big dogs anyway and it's a bigger area. 416 00:44:12.030 --> 00:44:21.840 Chuck Rosin: That you actually would have, and they have tennis courts as well, but you actually have probably as much room, if not more, for the kind of court that Nikki is just described. 417 00:44:22.320 --> 00:44:35.520 Chuck Rosin: So Nikki I would urge you and your group to also check out all a park because look at most of the people who are not most of the people, a large percentage of people that i've talked to use that dog park or from Venice. 418 00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:36.540 Chuck Rosin: Because. 419 00:44:36.900 --> 00:44:39.360 Chuck Rosin: it's a much superior dog parks in the one. 420 00:44:39.360 --> 00:44:48.840 Chuck Rosin: We have in Westminster so that's one thing I wanted to say, and the other thing I would like just maybe this will be new business like it is. 421 00:44:50.280 --> 00:45:02.370 Chuck Rosin: As we know that Darrell friend RON galperin also put a couple of suggestions of new places for affordable housing and one of them was in Venice on. 422 00:45:02.910 --> 00:45:15.690 Chuck Rosin: To sunny boulevard or pisani drive right yeah and I looked at that property, because I was really I couldn't believe that there'd be another one being talked about here and I went to see it. 423 00:45:16.350 --> 00:45:26.640 Chuck Rosin: And I don't know, and I would like to propose that we think about how some of that land if it's going to be used any of its going to be used for affordable housing or senior housing. 424 00:45:26.910 --> 00:45:37.560 Chuck Rosin: that's that's one thing, but would also include some recreational elements and not just be this isolated thing and it seemed to me like it might be a really good place to put some pickup ball courts. 425 00:45:38.040 --> 00:45:48.720 Chuck Rosin: in Venice, because I was moved last time in the last meeting when they when some of the paddleboard people had a ball people talked and sent to pick a ball. 426 00:45:49.530 --> 00:45:56.820 Chuck Rosin: Adherence that you know will go find your own spaces public or private, well, he was a public one that I thought we. 427 00:45:57.420 --> 00:46:10.440 Chuck Rosin: Can maybe the dnc or someone should say, well, maybe we should consider this for recreation, since clearly Venice does not have enough recreation outlets for the demand that we have well that's what I wanted to add in here. 428 00:46:11.160 --> 00:46:12.810 Daffodil Tyminski: All right, great thanks chuck. 429 00:46:13.890 --> 00:46:19.920 Daffodil Tyminski: And Nikki chuck we can talk offline and continue the conversation I just kind of wanted to get a report back to everyone, where we were at. 430 00:46:21.570 --> 00:46:22.320 reta moser: questions. 431 00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:23.490 Daffodil Tyminski: A short Rita. 432 00:46:24.300 --> 00:46:27.750 reta moser: Our pickup ball and paddleball to same thing, no. 433 00:46:27.870 --> 00:46:29.820 reta moser: No Okay, thank you. 434 00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:41.550 Daffodil Tyminski: um let's move on, you know I realize i'm okay chuck give us just a very quick update on eight and nine, and then we can move into 10 because I think. 435 00:46:43.530 --> 00:46:49.590 Daffodil Tyminski: they're all related, obviously, but why don't actually why don't you give us a report on eight and then we can deal with nine and 10 together. 436 00:46:49.770 --> 00:46:57.600 Chuck Rosin: yeah i'm much more to say about eight to nine and 10 so I I couldn't remember what why I was taking photographs. 437 00:46:58.800 --> 00:47:04.680 Chuck Rosin: Of the bad streets in my neighborhood but I did, and I did send them to you def did you see them. 438 00:47:04.860 --> 00:47:06.930 Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, I did, and you don't let me put them up. 439 00:47:07.050 --> 00:47:09.330 Chuck Rosin: yeah I wanted everybody to see them and I just. 440 00:47:10.860 --> 00:47:13.260 Chuck Rosin: You know they're not they're not. 441 00:47:14.880 --> 00:47:23.340 Chuck Rosin: As deaths going for, let me just say that you would expect i'll show you one where a tree has pushed up the the. 442 00:47:23.730 --> 00:47:36.540 Chuck Rosin: sidewalk, which is one of the reasons, a lot of the sidewalks can be bad i'll show you the worst one in the silver triangle of mildred our most crowded street or most use utilize three in which. 443 00:47:38.790 --> 00:47:51.780 Chuck Rosin: And streets little streets that we have a clock client and okay that's mckinley, this is the street very nicest the first street you get to be just the first week second is this, this is not far from. 444 00:47:53.400 --> 00:48:04.230 Chuck Rosin: From mildred This is like two houses in from it, and you can see that's probably the winner is the worst one in our neighborhood that's what I give you. 445 00:48:05.790 --> 00:48:06.000 Chuck Rosin: yeah. 446 00:48:06.060 --> 00:48:06.690 Daffodil Tyminski: Let me just. 447 00:48:06.780 --> 00:48:15.990 Daffodil Tyminski: jump in for context truck as bad as this looks, this is not half as bad as all of the sidewalks around where Jeremy and I live. 448 00:48:17.310 --> 00:48:19.890 Chuck Rosin: But we will raise order to live in the city that's. 449 00:48:20.610 --> 00:48:22.230 Jeremy Loeb: The main street very, very bad. 450 00:48:22.260 --> 00:48:32.160 Daffodil Tyminski: walk yeah and and also we live right off as a major pedestrian thoroughfare we live a couple houses off the intersections of maine and advocacy and brooks and. 451 00:48:32.190 --> 00:48:34.680 Chuck Rosin: Pacific so show the ones that I put up. 452 00:48:35.790 --> 00:48:38.190 Chuck Rosin: About mildred the ones it's a coin and boom. 453 00:48:38.850 --> 00:48:39.990 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay hold on. 454 00:48:40.380 --> 00:48:43.830 Chuck Rosin: that's an area that clearly needs some attention. 455 00:48:43.920 --> 00:48:48.150 Daffodil Tyminski: So for me to tell the way this is, and this is just because i'm navigating. 456 00:48:48.180 --> 00:48:49.260 Chuck Rosin: Put a couple on and. 457 00:48:49.530 --> 00:48:50.190 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah just. 458 00:48:50.250 --> 00:48:53.940 Chuck Rosin: hold on so hope you appreciate the art shot with the photographer. 459 00:48:54.180 --> 00:48:56.610 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah yeah that was nice um. 460 00:48:57.630 --> 00:48:59.370 hold on a SEC I just need to take this one. 461 00:49:01.860 --> 00:49:02.910 Okay. 462 00:49:08.010 --> 00:49:08.910 Daffodil Tyminski: This is mildred. 463 00:49:09.330 --> 00:49:20.370 Chuck Rosin: yeah So this is the one that we think I projected and this goes on for two blocks like it, so I my projection is is that this is this had as much to do with the. 464 00:49:21.450 --> 00:49:40.890 Chuck Rosin: Constant rumble of trucks and cars and and whatever it so that was one reason to it you'll also see oftentimes street is repair when people are coming out of driveways it seems that area gets it a lot, but I find the kind that's most dangerous just the ones where that where the. 465 00:49:43.440 --> 00:49:54.660 Chuck Rosin: sidewalk kind of pushes up where they were, for whatever reason, and you're not really noticing it's there and you're walking your dog or you're on your phone or something like that, and you actually bump up. 466 00:49:54.990 --> 00:50:03.780 Chuck Rosin: right here next to me, and this is on by the way, this is just out of the silver triangle on beach just north of 28th street and. 467 00:50:04.950 --> 00:50:15.600 Chuck Rosin: You know that that's, something that would harm, all of us nicely as seniors walking through it and not paying attention and actually falling. 468 00:50:16.080 --> 00:50:16.350 and 469 00:50:17.820 --> 00:50:27.720 Chuck Rosin: I as again I i'm sure there are other places in Venice that are much worse I just I can't remember why I volunteered to show you the triangle first, but this is. 470 00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:35.820 Chuck Rosin: But I do want to say that that much of it was better than I assumed, and in fact this one here. 471 00:50:36.270 --> 00:50:54.780 Chuck Rosin: This was a terrible i'm glad you've put this one up this was one that caused a senior live there, to take a very bad ball in front of his house, this is about five or six years ago, and he sued the city and he you know and the city came out this was what they do to repair. 472 00:50:55.110 --> 00:51:08.790 Chuck Rosin: If yeah something that's like really a bad situation, this is what they'll come out and do they'll put up a little um you know they'll they'll make it so that the that be, you could see where this would be this would be things. 473 00:51:10.320 --> 00:51:26.160 Chuck Rosin: Like that previous month, this is how they and then this was, as I say, this happened, five or six years ago, this is how it's been they've just that will take away the immediate danger it liability for the city, this is not a good aesthetic anywhere. 474 00:51:26.430 --> 00:51:33.330 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm going to send you some shocking photos chat later on today about Main Street, I mean it makes this literally look. 475 00:51:33.330 --> 00:51:35.220 Daffodil Tyminski: Like brand new. 476 00:51:36.150 --> 00:51:36.930 Chuck Rosin: it's horrible I. 477 00:51:37.110 --> 00:51:53.100 Chuck Rosin: Would model meetings over there having to do with our and our our lane councilman and he and you know but but, again, and this is just what this one neighborhood looks like and that's what I volunteered to do and there it is. 478 00:51:53.640 --> 00:52:01.200 Daffodil Tyminski: chuck do you think you could reach out to the powers that be in the city and see what would it take to get these fix, how do we get a more. 479 00:52:01.200 --> 00:52:03.930 reta moser: Comprehensive have any money we have. 480 00:52:05.490 --> 00:52:06.210 Chuck Rosin: tiger. 481 00:52:07.410 --> 00:52:09.450 Chuck Rosin: venison behalf of the B and C or. 482 00:52:10.020 --> 00:52:26.280 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah I mean just let's get the whole point of I think bringing this up is to get the ball rolling, to try to get some areas fixed like there was galperin did announce that program of doing a pilot sidewalk repair, so I think if neighborhoods go to him and say this is really, really bad. 483 00:52:28.320 --> 00:52:33.870 Daffodil Tyminski: You know, we need this fixed and you know you're running for some office or whatever put your money where your mouth is. 484 00:52:33.900 --> 00:52:39.030 Chuck Rosin: Darrell do you have any influence in in joining me on that conversation with Mr galperin. 485 00:52:40.380 --> 00:52:41.520 Darryl DuFay: Oh, can you hear me. 486 00:52:42.120 --> 00:52:42.540 yeah. 487 00:52:43.680 --> 00:52:48.810 Darryl DuFay: Are not because I am overwhelmed with the median project. 488 00:52:51.540 --> 00:52:52.980 reta moser: With the track, can I. 489 00:52:54.420 --> 00:52:56.190 Darryl DuFay: Let me, but I want to make a comment. 490 00:52:57.510 --> 00:52:57.840 Darryl DuFay: Okay. 491 00:52:58.950 --> 00:53:08.070 Darryl DuFay: I have read a lot about this, the last time it was that the city was going to put so many more million dollars to get there they're all over. 492 00:53:08.130 --> 00:53:13.290 Darryl DuFay: There thousands of them and, at the present time, it is that it is the. 493 00:53:13.350 --> 00:53:18.390 Darryl DuFay: owner's responsibility to take care of the problem, their own sidewalks. 494 00:53:18.990 --> 00:53:19.680 Darryl DuFay: There was no. 495 00:53:20.190 --> 00:53:21.900 reta moser: pork barrel, you know that sometimes. 496 00:53:22.290 --> 00:53:25.080 Darryl DuFay: I but that's my that's my point. 497 00:53:25.350 --> 00:53:31.530 Darryl DuFay: yeah we have have again all the evidence of things that need to be done. 498 00:53:32.610 --> 00:53:41.670 Darryl DuFay: And the question that you brought up is to find out what is being done right now, or if it isn't being done, why. 499 00:53:42.450 --> 00:53:48.510 Jeremy Loeb: worst part of Main Street is the area in front of the homeless shelter that's the I think that filigree that's the worst strip. 500 00:53:49.500 --> 00:54:00.480 Jeremy Loeb: And it's the one that's along the long between Thornton and rose or Thornton and and just out the Rose is the worst so that city own property, so they should really address that as well. 501 00:54:00.900 --> 00:54:02.730 Daffodil Tyminski: Correct yeah there's two things. 502 00:54:02.730 --> 00:54:06.510 Daffodil Tyminski: going on and actually I think the worst is right up our alley in maine but. 503 00:54:06.570 --> 00:54:08.070 Jeremy Loeb: that's that's really bad too. 504 00:54:08.250 --> 00:54:18.330 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah but what I understood, one of the problems with this whole thing is the city won't take a position on who's responsible and. 505 00:54:19.050 --> 00:54:32.850 Daffodil Tyminski: it's really unusual because where I grew up the homeowner is responsible, but this you know here, because the city has these easements and everything there's a great argument that city should be responsible, but, as I understand it, with the city's been doing is. 506 00:54:33.900 --> 00:54:40.050 Daffodil Tyminski: If they fix a sidewalk near you once it's fixed the liability for the sidewalk shifts to the homeowner. 507 00:54:40.230 --> 00:54:51.150 Daffodil Tyminski: Right, and so in areas like Venice where we've got a high number of rental properties, a lot of Homeowners are refusing to get the sidewalks fixed a lot of property owners. 508 00:54:52.440 --> 00:55:06.930 Daffodil Tyminski: And I know that's certainly the issue where we live along Main Street that whole row of homes right along Main Street between brooks and Jordan is all Rentals and none of them are owner occupied yeah and nobody has the will to want to fix it. 509 00:55:07.290 --> 00:55:08.700 reta moser: it's a great liability. 510 00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:09.450 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah. 511 00:55:09.900 --> 00:55:14.520 Chuck Rosin: So ever been approached or threaten the property owners. 512 00:55:14.850 --> 00:55:15.420 reta moser: Oh yeah. 513 00:55:15.480 --> 00:55:21.090 Daffodil Tyminski: Well, I don't know if they've been threatened I do know, one of them was approached you just never responded. 514 00:55:21.510 --> 00:55:33.900 Daffodil Tyminski: I was actually on this issue, believe it or not, like 10 years ago yep and I just sort of got grounds down and worn out by the city and like lack of will, from anyone to do anything so I just kind of abandoned it but. 515 00:55:34.350 --> 00:55:48.360 Daffodil Tyminski: I think it might not be a bad idea to make another run, now that we have somebody who's actually identified sidewalks as a problem and it's kind of making it part of his thing and wants to do a program like let's go back and say okay like this is really, really bad, what can we do. 516 00:55:49.980 --> 00:55:52.500 reta moser: Can I can I interject a little bit here. 517 00:55:52.590 --> 00:55:53.520 you'll want her. 518 00:55:55.260 --> 00:56:01.410 reta moser: back a couple years ago when we had problems with certain streets that were not being taken care of or. 519 00:56:02.130 --> 00:56:08.310 reta moser: needed redoing on don't you had just become the Mayor of the city and he started a program in which. 520 00:56:09.210 --> 00:56:22.890 reta moser: He gave each district so much money and approximately seven to eight streets to get fixed because there was a lot of complaint from many areas of the city. 521 00:56:23.400 --> 00:56:34.710 reta moser: And he started a program to resurface streets, we got say seven streets resurfaced here in Venice from South to the east, what we can do is start. 522 00:56:35.130 --> 00:56:47.010 reta moser: make a motion, now that we have elections coming up for the new mayor to come in to do and find out what we can do to get street repairs, especially with right now with the ones that we had. 523 00:56:47.280 --> 00:56:58.650 reta moser: Last week, and where there are trees that are talking over and they're causing damage that could be an incentive to really do something I had no idea that we still had our quimby. 524 00:56:59.070 --> 00:57:07.470 reta moser: alone available Do you know anything about that there were, I thought they they vanish start cubby lot of money from that. 525 00:57:08.430 --> 00:57:09.840 Darryl DuFay: That i'm not aware of. 526 00:57:10.650 --> 00:57:14.130 reta moser: Okay well i'll look into X, I know a lot about the quippy funds. 527 00:57:14.400 --> 00:57:19.650 Chuck Rosin: Anyway, talk did Mike didn't never spend any money on parks years. 528 00:57:19.710 --> 00:57:26.670 Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, that's not true actually I am maybe he didn't personally but I, one of the problems we have in Venice. 529 00:57:27.480 --> 00:57:45.480 Daffodil Tyminski: Is that every community gets a certain amount of money to spend on their parks, yes, and ours includes ocean front walk so the bulk of our parks and recs budget goes to ocean front walk and it doesn't leave a lot of money for anything else. 530 00:57:47.310 --> 00:57:50.700 Daffodil Tyminski: So that's not necessarily the wouldn't be funds issue but we've. 531 00:57:51.930 --> 00:57:58.770 Daffodil Tyminski: I forget how maybe this camp in the context of the dog park and trying to get renovations on the dog park a couple years ago. 532 00:57:59.760 --> 00:58:11.970 Daffodil Tyminski: But there just isn't funding and the parks people I think actually tried to pull stuff when they can from the other parks around, and you know, try to bring an extra bench from the palisades or stuff like that. 533 00:58:12.540 --> 00:58:20.820 Daffodil Tyminski: But they're just the way the city is basically treated Venice with the park is just I think tremendously unfair because, of course. 534 00:58:22.950 --> 00:58:27.270 Daffodil Tyminski: You know oceanfront walk is really a city resource it's not just a Venice resource. 535 00:58:28.950 --> 00:58:40.350 Daffodil Tyminski: All right, well how about this let's check in I talked to Gal Prince office and maybe we can report back next month with a potential plan of action. 536 00:58:40.950 --> 00:58:48.570 Daffodil Tyminski: In the meantime, I would encourage everyone to go out in your neighborhoods and identify the absolute worst sidewalks that you have or. 537 00:58:49.110 --> 00:58:58.830 Daffodil Tyminski: we'll get your neighbors to do it, or whatever, but let's come up with a list of locations, that we would want to present to the city to be fixed, so we have something tangible that we can give them as an action item. 538 00:58:59.040 --> 00:59:01.650 Jeremy Loeb: That should I go and take pictures because i'm happy to do that. 539 00:59:01.770 --> 00:59:02.220 Chuck Rosin: yeah. 540 00:59:02.700 --> 00:59:03.690 Yes, yeah. 541 00:59:04.740 --> 00:59:07.650 reta moser: miniatures we need signatures from the stakeholders. 542 00:59:07.950 --> 00:59:09.060 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, what. 543 00:59:09.150 --> 00:59:13.590 Daffodil Tyminski: Alright, so let chuck and I organize it a little bit and we'll report back. 544 00:59:14.430 --> 00:59:16.410 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, that makes sense. 545 00:59:19.230 --> 00:59:21.510 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay hold on one SEC. 546 00:59:25.290 --> 00:59:27.000 Daffodil Tyminski: All right, let's move on to. 547 00:59:29.100 --> 00:59:31.500 Daffodil Tyminski: Nine and let me get the agenda back here. 548 00:59:34.620 --> 00:59:38.550 reta moser: minus one to the trash and street clean oh yeah. 549 00:59:41.910 --> 00:59:48.990 Chuck Rosin: Mine is very short, what I have to say, because I did talk to the one guy in my neighborhood and he landed on the holidays and. 550 00:59:50.250 --> 01:00:01.560 Chuck Rosin: Really quick, he said, now we got it right back again and I will say, since we had our conversation in least in my area it's been more consistent they're not leaving them for the next day or two. 551 01:00:02.640 --> 01:00:03.480 Chuck Rosin: it's just okay. 552 01:00:03.840 --> 01:00:09.090 Chuck Rosin: But that's what he pointed all that so that's the view from this part of town. 553 01:00:10.500 --> 01:00:20.820 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay um I and JEREMY probably can speak to this better than I can we have a neighborhood texts thread in our neighborhood because just for various reasons, but. 554 01:00:21.720 --> 01:00:34.110 Daffodil Tyminski: The issue of erratic trash cleaning and, in fact, the city wasn't picking up recycling in our neighborhood at all was addressed with the Council office by one of our neighbors and I do think that the city has stepped up. 555 01:00:35.250 --> 01:00:36.990 Daffodil Tyminski: Regular trash as well. 556 01:00:38.040 --> 01:00:40.200 Daffodil Tyminski: JEREMY Have you had any talks with anyone about. 557 01:00:40.680 --> 01:00:47.880 Jeremy Loeb: haven't I haven't yet, but I know that it has gotten a little better, and recent in recent times, I feel like but I haven't spoken to anybody. 558 01:00:48.360 --> 01:00:59.190 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, well, I just put number 10 on as a placeholder in case we really wanted to bring a motion if everyone came back and said oh it's a disaster it's terrible we'd have emotion agenda is ready to go. 559 01:00:59.640 --> 01:01:04.800 Daffodil Tyminski: Why don't we just hold this in a band so till next month and let's all talk before the meeting. 560 01:01:05.220 --> 01:01:18.720 Daffodil Tyminski: Just to see whether or not we need to go forward with it or not, because if the city is fixing the problem I don't want to waste our time or discussions with them on things that they're trying to fix we've got so many things that they're not doing anything about that makes sense. 561 01:01:19.140 --> 01:01:20.940 Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, okay. 562 01:01:23.730 --> 01:01:41.280 Daffodil Tyminski: All right, so there's two more things i'm on here um let's go to number 11 and then I just very quickly, before we go to number 11 I want to address number 12 I put this on here because I had a crazy Internet problem and in the. 563 01:01:43.470 --> 01:01:50.550 Daffodil Tyminski: In the course of me trying to figure out what the problem was I realized that my particular neighborhood has really old wiring. 564 01:01:51.270 --> 01:01:57.750 Daffodil Tyminski: And I came to find out that actually the city is supposed to be putting in new wiring and they were supposed to do it like 10 years ago. 565 01:01:58.710 --> 01:02:03.900 Daffodil Tyminski: Because there is a public utilities Commission rule that requires everyone have equal access and they just never did it. 566 01:02:04.350 --> 01:02:12.510 Daffodil Tyminski: I don't actually have a lot to report on this yet, because it just happened this week, so I might actually also roll this over to next month, so I can do a little bit more investigation. 567 01:02:14.970 --> 01:02:22.470 Daffodil Tyminski: So, with that in mind let's go to number 11 Yolanda had an issue with scooters in the neighborhoods and talk to us about that Yolanda. 568 01:02:23.370 --> 01:02:25.470 reta moser: Yolanda is in the restroom right now. 569 01:02:25.530 --> 01:02:25.890 Daffodil Tyminski: Oh. 570 01:02:26.010 --> 01:02:31.920 Daffodil Tyminski: I know Okay, well then I will come back to her and one second I said, my piece on number 12. 571 01:02:33.810 --> 01:02:41.850 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, if anyone has information on number 12 or knows anything about this topic just email me, and let me know because i'm just sort of getting into it myself. 572 01:02:43.020 --> 01:02:46.500 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm Yolanda why don't we go back to number 11 and. 573 01:02:48.030 --> 01:02:50.250 Daffodil Tyminski: You discuss what you. 574 01:02:51.360 --> 01:02:53.370 Daffodil Tyminski: wanted to bring up about scooter yes. 575 01:02:53.790 --> 01:03:03.420 reta moser: um originally the first scooters that came into Venice whereby accompany the remember the black scooters okay that company is no longer. 576 01:03:04.200 --> 01:03:10.530 reta moser: contracted in for the city, they left the city and I did contact the person who originally. 577 01:03:11.070 --> 01:03:17.370 reta moser: worked for them, and I was telling him that we're having a lot of problems in which at night, especially. 578 01:03:17.850 --> 01:03:24.330 reta moser: I see them from my street my alley around 1112 o'clock one o'clock sometimes when i'm up. 579 01:03:24.750 --> 01:03:32.640 reta moser: watching TV I see these kids running around the scooters and I think they're casing our properties out, so I called up this. 580 01:03:33.030 --> 01:03:36.330 reta moser: friend of mine who originally started this group here Venice. 581 01:03:36.780 --> 01:03:47.670 reta moser: And I said, this is a problem we're having can they turn off the scooters at a certain time and then put them back on on in the morning, when people use them, because they need to get to work. 582 01:03:47.970 --> 01:03:51.540 reta moser: And he says yeah you can do that, and he told me he says, but don't. 583 01:03:51.990 --> 01:04:02.280 reta moser: go through the company or the only way that it will it can get done is if we, as a neighborhood Council can write a letter to the mayor's office. 584 01:04:02.610 --> 01:04:09.150 reta moser: and put in a request and tell them the problems we're having here and then us with the scooters. 585 01:04:09.540 --> 01:04:17.370 reta moser: And they can turn them off at a certain time we can request them having turned off at 11 and then put back at six or seven o'clock in the morning. 586 01:04:17.820 --> 01:04:24.780 reta moser: Not only that they leave them wherever they want to, so they have records of these people have. 587 01:04:25.440 --> 01:04:37.020 reta moser: been charged and just leaving them anywhere I think they can be fined, also because they have a record of the person who who contracted that little scooter at the time they turn it on so. 588 01:04:37.680 --> 01:04:50.880 reta moser: We need to do something, because it's just becoming a big problem and they're using them to our case, our properties out throughout Venice and that's why we're having a lot of tire slashed they're cracking the. 589 01:04:51.570 --> 01:05:00.510 reta moser: The windows Marina del rey is having a big problem with them also, so I hope that we can get some encouragement from the Community. 590 01:05:00.750 --> 01:05:13.470 reta moser: To see we can get the scooters turned off from an hour to an hour and go back to the people who, who are using them at a certain time, especially at that time and get them find and find out who they are okay. 591 01:05:16.230 --> 01:05:22.620 Daffodil Tyminski: Does anyone have any come I don't think we have any members of the public on, let me just. 592 01:05:24.090 --> 01:05:25.080 Darryl DuFay: Have a comment. 593 01:05:25.530 --> 01:05:34.980 Darryl DuFay: Okay i've followed scooters for whenever they started I also get the annual report on scooters. 594 01:05:35.610 --> 01:05:37.890 Darryl DuFay: And I can get it to Yolanda. 595 01:05:38.160 --> 01:05:52.170 Darryl DuFay: Because I think it was about five or 10 pages long, everything they've done and we're fortunate here because we have a electronic fence around the Venice canals. 596 01:05:52.650 --> 01:06:14.580 Darryl DuFay: wish we had the gift, so that people cannot drive a scooter it comes up and it it disconnects them so anyway, so there are things that can be done, they have a they have a lot of investigation, they have an annual report and so i'll get i'll get in touch with Yolanda on that. 597 01:06:15.240 --> 01:06:18.360 Daffodil Tyminski: Darrell could you see see that and we put it up on the website. 598 01:06:18.960 --> 01:06:20.430 Darryl DuFay: The report. 599 01:06:20.670 --> 01:06:22.380 Jeremy Loeb: yeah i'd like to read that as well. 600 01:06:22.620 --> 01:06:41.880 Darryl DuFay: yeah I have to go back and make sure that I, because I was keeping them, I hope I have the last one anyway it'll if I, if I have the one before still show you the the breadth of what they do what they they take care of because there's been a major change in the number of. 601 01:06:43.170 --> 01:06:56.310 Darryl DuFay: companies that are providing scooters and they're right, the largest one remove themselves from Venice and went to mid city, because I guess that's where the money was being made so it's. 602 01:06:56.340 --> 01:06:56.730 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay. 603 01:06:57.150 --> 01:06:57.780 it's a problem. 604 01:06:59.610 --> 01:07:04.710 reta moser: And then I just want to say something that I forgot to say that the reason is that he. 605 01:07:05.850 --> 01:07:19.650 reta moser: suggested to me to we send it directly to the mayor's office is because these companies get credits and they get incentives and there's a lot of complain, the city has warned them that they will have them removed okay. 606 01:07:19.920 --> 01:07:20.430 say. 607 01:07:22.260 --> 01:07:33.180 Chuck Rosin: I think that I agree with Yolanda about the pressure on companies, I think there's some interesting like the fence in this longer just as someone who heard your argument for the first time. 608 01:07:35.460 --> 01:07:44.370 Chuck Rosin: Be careful when you talk about the fact that people who live scooters at night, are are are doing it only to case out from destruction of property. 609 01:07:45.240 --> 01:07:55.170 Chuck Rosin: In the Venice in my area I live in unreal dude and I get people I hear skateboards going back and forth all night. 610 01:07:55.830 --> 01:08:12.690 Chuck Rosin: So someone card, you have if i'm representing the company's paying skateboarders could be going into so i'm just saying the proliferation is one thing, the fact that they do make noise that you're worried about it, but to say that specifically that they're using this. 611 01:08:14.400 --> 01:08:22.860 Chuck Rosin: chuckie sound crime is something that unless you've got the video or something it's pretty hard to to. 612 01:08:23.220 --> 01:08:31.260 Chuck Rosin: It drumming in my mind it diminishes your argument that's that's all i'm saying to you, not that it's not happening i'm just saying that. 613 01:08:31.800 --> 01:08:49.710 Chuck Rosin: Some of these other arguments and saying your shirt your responsibility at the end I don't think anybody I don't think anybody loves the scooters who don't use them as real transportation or the tool around, I think the boats don't don't like them, and those who do obviously do. 614 01:08:52.530 --> 01:08:59.970 Daffodil Tyminski: Well, why don't we do this, I could your points well taken check, I also have a concern about sort of casting. 615 01:09:01.410 --> 01:09:16.710 Daffodil Tyminski: things in a certain way, with less we have real evidence of it, but why don't we take a look at the if there's an annual report on scooters darryl if you have a great i'll try to look forward to online and let's just see what is being said out there and. 616 01:09:19.260 --> 01:09:21.660 Daffodil Tyminski: I think for Yolanda if people have like. 617 01:09:22.740 --> 01:09:28.410 Daffodil Tyminski: Security footage or you know things like that actually showing this happening it'd be helpful. 618 01:09:29.640 --> 01:09:40.380 Daffodil Tyminski: I also feel like we I don't know that we can turn them off everywhere, but we probably should figure out areas, just like they did in the canals if there's any other area out there, where they shouldn't be. 619 01:09:43.110 --> 01:09:46.350 Daffodil Tyminski: You know that's something that's kind of a way to deal with it, I don't. 620 01:09:47.400 --> 01:09:50.010 Daffodil Tyminski: Well, I just don't know we should look into it a little bit more. 621 01:09:51.240 --> 01:09:54.990 Jeremy Loeb: The problem was shutting them off at a certain time of night is that a lot of people use them to get home. 622 01:09:55.140 --> 01:09:55.740 Jeremy Loeb: For yeah. 623 01:09:55.830 --> 01:09:59.250 Daffodil Tyminski: Wherever they are bars and stuff like that yeah Now I know that's. 624 01:10:00.600 --> 01:10:05.490 Jeremy Loeb: We have GEO fencing and our neighborhood you're not allowed to have motion sidewalk you can have them on the wall street's. 625 01:10:06.390 --> 01:10:17.250 Jeremy Loeb: So there's GEO fencing throughout Venice, if you look at the map you all you have to do is is open up any one of the scooter Apps and it'll show you on the map, where where they're allowed and whether or not allowed. 626 01:10:19.200 --> 01:10:20.730 reta moser: by your APP. 627 01:10:20.850 --> 01:10:26.910 Jeremy Loeb: That could be open, if you open like a lion is one of them I don't know what the what the current ones are that are allowed in La but. 628 01:10:27.480 --> 01:10:27.960 reta moser: i'm. 629 01:10:27.990 --> 01:10:34.410 Jeremy Loeb: If you if you just walk around and look at the scooters and look at the brand of the scooters and then just download those Apps. 630 01:10:34.800 --> 01:10:45.420 Jeremy Loeb: They all have maps and there's red shaded areas that show you where you can't use them so you'll see all of ocean run walk is read all of the canals are read on the walk streets or red. 631 01:10:46.560 --> 01:10:46.860 Jeremy Loeb: yeah. 632 01:10:48.150 --> 01:10:56.070 reta moser: Well, we have an advantage here that a lot of people have cameras on and i'm just going by next door where people post. 633 01:10:57.990 --> 01:11:01.950 reta moser: what's going on, and I think that's a good evidence of what's going on. 634 01:11:02.190 --> 01:11:14.700 reta moser: I don't like to blame everybody or you know it's just what I see, and I have cameras and I and and it's basically what I see going on from Abbot kinney and Venice at three o'clock in the morning. 635 01:11:14.970 --> 01:11:28.710 reta moser: And two o'clock in the morning and that and we have the right, on the corner Okay, I think the those those scooters or by metro, but we can i'll talk to darryl let's start, we can start putting a report together, thank you. 636 01:11:29.100 --> 01:11:32.670 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay that's great i'm. 637 01:11:37.890 --> 01:11:39.240 Daffodil Tyminski: All right, i'm. 638 01:11:43.560 --> 01:11:51.660 Daffodil Tyminski: Sorry, I lost the agenda here um Okay, so the last thing on our will report back and just make a note here, report back next month. 639 01:11:56.760 --> 01:12:03.570 Daffodil Tyminski: The last thing i'm Yolanda I mentioned what you stepped out for a minute this Internet cable issue came up for me personally, this week. 640 01:12:03.870 --> 01:12:11.460 Daffodil Tyminski: i'd like to look into it a little bit more, if anyone has any information on this, let me know but it turns out that some of our neighborhoods in Venice are not. 641 01:12:12.390 --> 01:12:22.770 Daffodil Tyminski: Equally wired and there's actually a rule that says that you're supposed to have equal access to infrastructure, like this it's just never been followed apparently in business. 642 01:12:23.580 --> 01:12:29.580 Daffodil Tyminski: And then part of it is it's difficult, but I think like the cable wires in my neighborhood go back to like the 80s. 643 01:12:30.690 --> 01:12:40.080 Daffodil Tyminski: um so i'll look into this a little bit more and see what the actual issue is this literally just came up you know, three days ago and I haven't had a chance to really dig into it. 644 01:12:40.830 --> 01:12:49.110 Chuck Rosin: Also i'll put something out on next door and just ask people are they having trouble with the help you have they had trouble with their Internet. 645 01:12:49.740 --> 01:12:50.160 Daffodil Tyminski: Right. 646 01:12:50.370 --> 01:12:51.870 Chuck Rosin: Where they are keep keep that guy. 647 01:12:52.050 --> 01:12:53.100 Chuck Rosin: it'll be good yeah. 648 01:12:53.940 --> 01:13:05.010 Daffodil Tyminski: Or have they been told that their particular service area does not qualify for high speed service like the highest speed of service like files and stuff like that okay well. 649 01:13:09.360 --> 01:13:21.570 Daffodil Tyminski: um, the last thing is um you know, I just wanted to put this on the agenda, we don't have to talk about it now, but just have a discussion of what we want the committee to do and where we what we want to focus on. 650 01:13:22.590 --> 01:13:31.350 Daffodil Tyminski: We are having some things bubble up, and I think have some direction, but I just wanted to leave that out there to talk about in case anyone had anything they wanted to bring up. 651 01:13:33.510 --> 01:13:41.310 Chuck Rosin: I did bring up the idea that that park space if the city is thinking of doing something different, with that parking lot yeah I think it does if. 652 01:13:42.090 --> 01:13:49.260 Chuck Rosin: I don't say it can't include any kind of public housing, but it also needs to have a recreational component, I think one of the. 653 01:13:49.680 --> 01:13:55.620 Chuck Rosin: Really, if there's so much wrong with the with the Venice media and that it's hard to know where to start but. 654 01:13:56.190 --> 01:14:06.540 Chuck Rosin: One of the things that is incredibly wrong with it and the design and everything is that it completely segregates a couple of the two feet what it wants to do with ultimately segregates. 655 01:14:07.410 --> 01:14:17.430 Chuck Rosin: Those in the affordable housing from from the neighborhoods themselves no integration it to the point that they have no recreational space and they're trying to take away. 656 01:14:17.910 --> 01:14:24.750 Chuck Rosin: One of the most charming elements that are that I feel there in the canals, which is the duck pond in the end, the public park. 657 01:14:26.610 --> 01:14:35.100 Chuck Rosin: You know that I use with my granddaughter often walk over and use it so it's and it's a happy place you see a lot of. 658 01:14:35.670 --> 01:14:50.310 Chuck Rosin: Different young little kids and and the ducks are right there, and of course they want to take that, so I think that we have to stand up as a community on on some of our public land and give suggestions, how we want to do it, so that we never have. 659 01:14:52.350 --> 01:14:55.380 Chuck Rosin: Excuse me for saying it this way, the tyranny of my bond and again. 660 01:14:56.970 --> 01:14:58.740 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay damn. 661 01:14:58.860 --> 01:15:01.260 Daffodil Tyminski: damn it and go ahead girl. 662 01:15:01.890 --> 01:15:16.170 Darryl DuFay: Yes, one of the things that in this discussion, I would also like you to look at what we can do, or should do as it relates to either permanent our ad hoc committees. 663 01:15:16.770 --> 01:15:21.180 Darryl DuFay: Because individuals will find they say well there's a problem here and we set it up. 664 01:15:22.020 --> 01:15:30.450 Darryl DuFay: Then the question is well is this committee, make the decision of stuff or there's another one, or do we operate like. 665 01:15:30.900 --> 01:15:47.070 Darryl DuFay: considered Council, so the federal government you pass it from committee to committee, etc, I just think there needs to be a clarity of what we what we want to do, or should do and how it interfaces with the committee's Thank you. 666 01:15:48.060 --> 01:15:49.560 Daffodil Tyminski: All right, a really good point. 667 01:15:49.830 --> 01:15:51.570 reta moser: Can I interact in there. 668 01:15:51.870 --> 01:15:59.940 reta moser: Sure i've been attending meetings for already 18 years where the whole city, well, we have rack and then we have the side. 669 01:16:00.210 --> 01:16:10.050 reta moser: But we have a planning and i'm committee for the city that sometimes meets in boyle heights in front of the hollenbeck and everybody from the valley. 670 01:16:10.350 --> 01:16:15.240 reta moser: From everywhere else meets they're not because of covert they haven't been able to meet. 671 01:16:15.660 --> 01:16:20.100 reta moser: And we do accomplish because we need backup because everybody is fighting for the same. 672 01:16:20.370 --> 01:16:32.520 reta moser: Issues that we are here, but we need to get people to go to these meetings i've been going I don't go anymore i've been doing this for 18 years and one of the things that I brought up that's why the neighborhood Councils created. 673 01:16:33.330 --> 01:16:46.290 reta moser: The specific plans that Community plans and what's happening right now we wasted all this time to get that going and then what's happened, the city does not respect so they're not respecting what the neighborhood councils were formed. 674 01:16:46.680 --> 01:16:54.540 reta moser: For and also, then why in the hell, did we waste all this time for specific coastal plants and Community plants they're not respecting that. 675 01:16:54.780 --> 01:17:03.000 reta moser: And that's what we really need the backup of other places that are having the same problem we are and let's go and and, if I can we. 676 01:17:03.480 --> 01:17:09.330 reta moser: Would i'm going to see if we can post those meetings where they take place, and if they're going to be part of an ad hoc committee. 677 01:17:09.690 --> 01:17:23.760 reta moser: Those people have to start attending those meetings I can go but i've been doing this for 18 years, and you know i'm tired Okay, but I will still contribute to this community that I love so much and read also she's she's an expert at. 678 01:17:25.440 --> 01:17:30.540 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks guys i'll say two things, one on the ad hoc committee issue. 679 01:17:30.990 --> 01:17:40.440 Daffodil Tyminski: The neighborhood committee, as I see it, and I believe other see it is a bit of a catch all for things that don't squarely fit in other committees or not being addressed by other committees. 680 01:17:41.160 --> 01:17:50.640 Daffodil Tyminski: For example, scooters could go to parking and transportation and i'll talk to Robert about it, but we can just do it ourselves, but sometimes issues are more than just. 681 01:17:54.930 --> 01:18:02.370 Daffodil Tyminski: You know something that can just be dealt with in a committee that's dealing with five other things, and I think usually that's what an ad hoc committee is formed. 682 01:18:03.210 --> 01:18:11.820 Daffodil Tyminski: there's also standing committees and the dnc bylaws that we have to have and then ad hoc committees change from board the board depending on whatever the needs are. 683 01:18:12.150 --> 01:18:20.850 Daffodil Tyminski: So if there's something that we see that may be a little bit bigger than we want to deal with, we can have an ad hoc committee formed and that's the gyms discretion, but I think you would do it. 684 01:18:21.690 --> 01:18:27.840 Daffodil Tyminski: um The other thing that can be done is having a task force to investigate a certain item. 685 01:18:28.200 --> 01:18:37.440 Daffodil Tyminski: the beauty of a task forces it doesn't have the same brown act restrictions that a committee would have, and so you don't have to post the agendas, to me, you don't have to have a quorum, you can all. 686 01:18:37.650 --> 01:18:48.750 Daffodil Tyminski: You know there's three people in the task force, they can all meet at any time and they're also used for really specific issues to get things done so, for example, we could have the dnc form a sidewalk task. 687 01:18:48.750 --> 01:18:58.500 Daffodil Tyminski: force and find three people or four people whatever and say okay you guys have three months go do your thing you don't need to brown act and all that stuff. 688 01:18:59.760 --> 01:19:01.470 Daffodil Tyminski: So that's kind of how they work. 689 01:19:02.760 --> 01:19:11.460 Daffodil Tyminski: And how we whether we send an issue to them or not is a bit of an art, not a science, I feel like you know when we think it's necessary we do. 690 01:19:12.030 --> 01:19:22.110 Daffodil Tyminski: And if we're dealing with something here that we want to do that just let me know and we'll send it up to the board and having you know either ad hoc committee or Task Force created. 691 01:19:23.670 --> 01:19:30.630 Daffodil Tyminski: One last thing with respect to the specific plan I think many of you know, our land use chair a leak stepped down. 692 01:19:31.080 --> 01:19:33.600 Chuck Rosin: From the board oh I didn't know that, why did you do that. 693 01:19:34.200 --> 01:19:41.760 Daffodil Tyminski: um I she wanted more time for herself and found the Community too divisive and i'm paraphrasing but. 694 01:19:42.060 --> 01:19:42.990 Daffodil Tyminski: She sent us a letter. 695 01:19:44.730 --> 01:19:46.620 Chuck Rosin: Is that letter public and you guys. 696 01:19:46.620 --> 01:19:52.980 Daffodil Tyminski: Public I assume it's public i'm sure I can i'm sure I can share it with you yeah it. 697 01:19:53.010 --> 01:19:54.270 Chuck Rosin: was sad to see it. 698 01:19:54.660 --> 01:19:56.430 Daffodil Tyminski: And the city, so I assume it's falling. 699 01:19:58.380 --> 01:20:07.650 Daffodil Tyminski: But so in the meantime we're going to open up applications where we have opened up applications for a new land use chair and, hopefully, that person will be picked at the February meeting. 700 01:20:08.640 --> 01:20:18.390 Daffodil Tyminski: In the meantime, I have taken over as chair of loop back and really just trying to clean up and organize we had a backlog of like 60 plus cases and. 701 01:20:19.440 --> 01:20:24.660 Daffodil Tyminski: Just a lot of stuff going on, but the other thing that hasn't been being done on the land use committee. 702 01:20:25.020 --> 01:20:36.270 Daffodil Tyminski: Is um any any dealings on the specific plan and as Yolanda mentioned, this is in the works right now we frankly should have been having meetings on this for the past year and. 703 01:20:36.930 --> 01:20:46.260 Daffodil Tyminski: we're going to have a loop tech meeting next Thursday and i'm going to devote about when i'm not really going to do anything, while i'm temporarily chairing this i'm really just trying to organize. 704 01:20:46.650 --> 01:21:05.850 Daffodil Tyminski: But I did think it'd be nice to open up the floor to public comment on the specific plan and have just let the committee start hearing from people in the public, because that hasn't really happened at all, so I would note that on your calendars next Thursday night probably 7pm. 705 01:21:07.470 --> 01:21:11.130 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm still trying to figure out to me Thursday the Thursday after, but I think it's going to be next Thursday. 706 01:21:11.910 --> 01:21:18.600 Daffodil Tyminski: And if you are your neighbors or anyone has thoughts on this specific plan, I encourage you to call in or email loop back. 707 01:21:19.230 --> 01:21:29.550 Daffodil Tyminski: And let's just get that ball rolling, because I realized so many people in Venice don't even know that the specific plan is being updated and it really is the blueprint that's going to. 708 01:21:29.550 --> 01:21:30.750 Daffodil Tyminski: dictate next. 709 01:21:30.840 --> 01:21:34.020 Daffodil Tyminski: 10 to 15 years of what Venice looks like and how it's built. 710 01:21:35.220 --> 01:21:37.620 Daffodil Tyminski: So this is my PSA for land use. 711 01:21:38.010 --> 01:21:39.570 reta moser: The daffodil. 712 01:21:39.780 --> 01:21:40.230 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah. 713 01:21:40.470 --> 01:21:55.170 reta moser: I thought we already had the specific plan and we have everything in place, the only problem that is it never got certified by the coastal Commission and because that was the problem, but we have a lot of paperwork on it. 714 01:21:55.380 --> 01:21:59.280 Daffodil Tyminski: I can we do, but the city's revising it and they've issued a draft. 715 01:22:00.060 --> 01:22:00.630 reta moser: Oh, and they. 716 01:22:00.660 --> 01:22:01.350 Work yeah. 717 01:22:02.520 --> 01:22:09.120 Daffodil Tyminski: um I believe it's on the loop website, but I will make a note and take a look i'm not sure where it is i've got it on email. 718 01:22:10.950 --> 01:22:11.940 Daffodil Tyminski: And so. 719 01:22:12.330 --> 01:22:13.740 Daffodil Tyminski: There are some things in it that. 720 01:22:14.190 --> 01:22:21.420 Daffodil Tyminski: are good there's some things that are bad and we haven't really had a voice, with the city yet on this because it's just never been addressed. 721 01:22:23.190 --> 01:22:37.710 Darryl DuFay: graph, if I may just interject one of the most egregious thing that happened, has to do with the median project what they did is they went and changed it so that that area that open space. 722 01:22:38.040 --> 01:22:41.610 Darryl DuFay: may never be used for anything but homelessness. 723 01:22:41.910 --> 01:22:42.420 Darryl DuFay: yeah. 724 01:22:42.480 --> 01:22:44.940 Darryl DuFay: we're getting that into the specific plan. 725 01:22:45.330 --> 01:22:58.200 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah that's yeah there's a lot of questionable decisions that were made in the draft and so two things one we want to get public common out there and we want people to know about it and start emailing the city. 726 01:22:59.490 --> 01:23:02.010 Daffodil Tyminski: And and us sort of guiding that that. 727 01:23:03.270 --> 01:23:15.420 Daffodil Tyminski: That project, but also at some point, and I will let everyone know the woman who is responsible for coordinating Venice and the plan her name is lauren macpherson she is going to come to loop back. 728 01:23:16.440 --> 01:23:27.870 Daffodil Tyminski: and give an update and field questions, so I think that's going to be February 27 and by then we'll have a permanent chair, but we're setting it up anyway, because it takes a while to get these meetings with the city. 729 01:23:29.280 --> 01:23:31.740 Daffodil Tyminski: Of you well, so we do I. 730 01:23:33.090 --> 01:23:35.430 reta moser: Know i'm telling me to she's my Secretary. 731 01:23:35.700 --> 01:23:36.420 reta moser: Oh gotcha. 732 01:23:38.070 --> 01:23:42.990 Daffodil Tyminski: All right, well as chair and Secretary myself I think we're done Thank you. 733 01:23:43.410 --> 01:23:45.120 reta moser: Okay Happy New Year everybody. 734 01:23:45.390 --> 01:23:46.290 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah Happy New. 735 01:23:46.470 --> 01:23:49.230 Daffodil Tyminski: year if you want anything on next month just. 736 01:23:49.260 --> 01:23:50.730 Daffodil Tyminski: email me we'll put it on the agenda. 737 01:23:52.410 --> 01:23:52.830 reta moser: Okay. 738 01:23:52.920 --> 01:23:53.370 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay. 739 01:23:53.430 --> 01:23:54.900 Jeremy Loeb: bye guys thanks. 740 01:23:56.130 --> 01:23:56.580 reta moser: yeah.