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frank murphy: hi Jen.

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james murez: hi how are you do you want me to make you or do you want me to make vicki the host of the meeting.

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frank murphy: made vicki the host to the meeting.

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james murez: got it.

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james murez: I mean, I can make I can make vicki The co host and i'll just stay in as host in case something comes up and I need to fix it how's that sound.

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Vicki Halliday: Whatever you want whatever is easiest gym and doesn't matter.

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frank murphy: Okay, or.

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Vicki Halliday: You started the recording that's important.

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james murez: yeah the recordings going you're now co host vicki i'm still host and screen share is available i'm going to sign off and go finish cooking my dinner.

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Vicki Halliday: There you go.

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james murez: enjoy and i'll be here, if you need me just text me or call me or whatever.

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james murez: we'll be able to promote anybody else that comes in.

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Vicki Halliday: Okay, no I don't think we need to tonight it's great.

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james murez: Okay.

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james murez: Thank you.

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frank murphy: God lined up here.

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frank murphy: he's the first first time so might be a little cumbersome.

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Vicki Halliday: His first.

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frank murphy: job.

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frank murphy: has been confirmed yet.

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Vicki Halliday: confirmed.

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Vicki Halliday: Oh okay I don't know her.

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frank murphy: she's probably va.

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Vicki Halliday: The va lady.

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Vicki Halliday: Well, hopefully jetties talk to her.

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frank murphy: He had, and he was trying to get in touch with her today, he said it wasn't a problem.

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frank murphy: um.

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frank murphy: But I don't know.

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frank murphy: How that goes.

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Vicki Halliday: yeah.

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frank murphy: we'll see.

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Vicki Halliday: let's see.

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Vicki Halliday: yeah Brian said he would be in around he hopes, no later than 730 hopefully by seven but they had share award or something like that.

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frank murphy: yeah yeah yeah.

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frank murphy: cool left said she's off work a little late.

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frank murphy: So she'll come in, when she can I said that's fine.

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Vicki Halliday: yeah portals.

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Vicki Halliday: Bad for him.

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frank murphy: was when.

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Vicki Halliday: I feel bad for Stan.

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frank murphy: yeah.

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frank murphy: You know i've never had him say was six so.

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Vicki Halliday: Okay, what it hit me.

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Vicki Halliday: The day after new year's Day and it was like three really rough days.

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frank murphy: yeah you told me yeah.

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Vicki Halliday: Negative by Friday, but it was like I don't know a combo of flu and something else, it was just like you thought you were gonna die, but he thought I know what it is i'm not going to the emergency room.

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Vicki Halliday: I can breathe, you know so.

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frank murphy: yeah that's that's, the main thing yeah yeah.

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frank murphy: I guess I would keep an eye out for.

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frank murphy: Ethical Bot or.

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Vicki Halliday: Let me promote God.

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frank murphy: Oh good God is in good good yeah.

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frank murphy: Just pass them emails back and forth.

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Vicki Halliday: yeah there, he is.

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frank murphy: And one press.

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frank murphy: Is Jody some.

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frank murphy: Is jodi's invitee on.

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frank murphy: A table.

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Vicki Halliday: And we don't know kind of what Eric comes under different names, but will you guys will help me spot Eric if he's showing up.

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frank murphy: Eric.

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Vicki Halliday: was the one from last time, who lives it.

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Vicki Halliday: In the.

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frank murphy: degree invite him I didn't know, we had invited him back I didn't I didn't I didn't.

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frank murphy: focus on that.

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Vicki Halliday: Okay, maybe he won't be here okay there's a there's Elizabeth let me get her in.

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frank murphy: Then pat pat has two people that might come in cat is one I think you know her.

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frank murphy: And rick.

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frank murphy: So if you see anything popping up there okay.

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frank murphy: Oh, she.

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frank murphy: So we got.

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frank murphy: One attendee alley being hi alli.

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Vicki Halliday: i'm saying hi to Elizabeth.

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frank murphy: hey Jody.

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Elizabeth Wright: hi everybody.

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i'm gonna.

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Elizabeth Wright: Work just a few minutes while I grab something to eat.

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Vicki Halliday: There you go.

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Elizabeth Wright: And oh on the agenda, I think we need to add approving agenda.

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frank murphy: Approving agenda.

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Elizabeth Wright: Right after.

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frank murphy: yeah.

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frank murphy: that's weird.

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frank murphy: Okay.

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frank murphy: Maybe Jim Jim knock that out earlier.

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frank murphy: was on last week's.

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frank murphy: knocked out last week, too, so i'll catch that right after roll call.

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Elizabeth Wright: And I assume the Minutes are what I wrote Is that correct.

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frank murphy: Yes.

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frank murphy: Okay, the Minutes that I posted are what you wrote yes.

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frank murphy: So I think we don't have any problem getting a quorum.

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Vicki Halliday: yeah let's do five minutes.

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frank murphy: yeah and everybody that's committed is 1234 of us here right now.

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frank murphy: No.

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frank murphy: four of us.

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frank murphy: So we only need one more and we've got a quorum.

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frank murphy: clerical be here.

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Elizabeth Wright: miras cannot.

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Elizabeth Wright: Count toward the quorum.

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Vicki Halliday: Eating okay.

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frank murphy: yeah.

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Vicki Halliday: he's got.

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frank murphy: A really need five to make a quorum.

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frank murphy: Does Jim counting the count.

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Vicki Halliday: nope yeah.

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Vicki Halliday: there's pat that's quorum right there, but still early.

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frank murphy: yeah.

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frank murphy: how's it going.

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Pat Raphael: Yes, I have to get my MIC in.

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frank murphy: it's kind of ghosting around on there it's.

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Pat Raphael: All right, alright tonight, can I hear y'all can I.

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frank murphy: hey jodi.

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jodi.

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frank murphy: yeah there you go.

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frank murphy: All right, what kind of dog is that.

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Vicki Halliday: Can.

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frank murphy: Oh, I can't see him.

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Jody Mortimer: 10 months old cat she's a good catch.

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Jody Mortimer: 22 of them and I didn't think I was gonna make it through that first month they literally used my face as a launching pad.

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Jody Mortimer: Very inquisitive.

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Vicki Halliday: I hear you.

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Vicki Halliday: Better you get on the boardwalk.

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Pat Raphael: I am, I am in my house.

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Vicki Halliday: it's very dark.

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frank murphy: yeah you need to.

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frank murphy: Go.

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Pat Raphael: over here.

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Pat Raphael: yep yep yep.

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Pat Raphael: I don't have a lot of bars, in fact, I only have one bar out of four.

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Pat Raphael: So I just wanted to make sure that the sound in the video was was going to be okay.

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Vicki Halliday: you're good.

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frank murphy: Any luck with cat and rick.

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Pat Raphael: I sent it to them, they never respond this way I didn't.

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Pat Raphael: I didn't say anything to you, but.

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Pat Raphael: This will give me a chance to give a call down.

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frank murphy: we're waiting to see if.

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frank murphy: ethel Butler.

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frank murphy: Checks in just to get you guys up to speed and.

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frank murphy: i'm.

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frank murphy: Jody what what happened is is one person is available.

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Jody Mortimer: Unfortunately I haven't heard anything from either one of the I had to currently house look homeless or on house individuals that were supposed to.

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Jody Mortimer: Be actually committed to being here and haven't been able to get Ahold of you, the one the one of them's mother contact me but.

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Jody Mortimer: No i'm just very surprised about apple Butler something must have something must have come up with that, but maybe better luck next one.

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frank murphy: yeah.

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Vicki Halliday: yeah.

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frank murphy: For sure okay so next month.

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frank murphy: And we may be able to get somebody from.

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frank murphy: The congresswoman's.

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frank murphy: office awesome maybe next month.

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frank murphy: we'll see.

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Jody Mortimer: And, as I mentioned in the in that text to share, which is out in culver city that the executive.

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Jody Mortimer: used to live here in Venice and worked with a couple of the nonprofits out here, and she said she'd be more than happy that's what they do, they come out and speak about what they do is share, which is where I got my.

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Jody Mortimer: certificate for.

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frank murphy: peer support oh.

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Vicki Halliday: cool that's great um.

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Vicki Halliday: By the way, next month, we do have tristen coming you know, in a position.

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Vicki Halliday: Perfect sure she's gonna come and bring a couple of other people from.

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Vicki Halliday: bond ends up this so they should make a pretty nice presentation.

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frank murphy: yeah well that's good that's good yeah so we've got that month filled okay good.

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frank murphy: All right, well let's let's.

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frank murphy: let's begin this let's begin this meeting.

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frank murphy: And I say yeah give me give another minute or so.

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Vicki Halliday: yeah it's seven up to so whatever you want to do.

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frank murphy: Is give it another minute or so just see if I know, Brian said he was going to be showing up possibly.

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frank murphy: But later I feel a little late.

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Vicki Halliday: yeah watch worry.

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frank murphy: Man and correlate checked in and she's going to be late.

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frank murphy: Clark.

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frank murphy: Clark not here.

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clark brown: I am here, but I kick it oh.

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clark brown: Good I can't get my video working always a meeting and try to come back with my video.

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frank murphy: Okay.

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frank murphy: All right, well that's that's a.

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Vicki Halliday: I do see any of the Cindy in the audience and we want to welcome her, she is taking place in bonds office so yeah she'll be part of the group next month when they present but welcome Andy.

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Vicki Halliday: Carroll and she's got her hand.

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Vicki Halliday: she's got her hand up, let me.

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Vicki Halliday: Let her talk for a second.

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Vicki Halliday: Any we're just getting ready to get started, did you have fun.

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-Annie Jump- Vicente: yeah no, I just wanted to say thank you so much for having me here and i'm really glad that you know I can introduce myself to everyone, and you know I really want to make a big difference so really excited to join with you guys.

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Vicki Halliday: Great welcoming.

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frank murphy: All right.

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frank murphy: Even another minute.

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frank murphy: Steve Clarke gets his camera running.

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frank murphy: We don't want to lose his image.

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Elizabeth Wright: Everybody looks so intense.

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frank murphy: At the camera yeah.

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Elizabeth Wright: Like at the elevator everybody is looking at what floor are we are now.

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frank murphy: yeah there you go well.

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Pat Raphael: Tell us of the zoom era, they did a study and said that when people are on zoom they mostly just look at themselves.

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Pat Raphael: Yes, give you a chance to like.

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frank murphy: Oh well, all right well let's call the order.

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frank murphy: So let's do the.

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frank murphy: roll call i'm here.

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frank murphy: Brian and Colette aren't pat.

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frank murphy: Here lose.

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frank murphy: vicki.

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frank murphy: God.

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frank murphy: And Clark oh be with us in a minute.

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frank murphy: and

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frank murphy: on and on, we go all right.

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frank murphy: We.

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frank murphy: wanted to approve the agenda as presented or amended.

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frank murphy: make this point we don't know if we're going to have ethel Butler or not, but she's got another 20 minutes or so to come in and.

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frank murphy: And so that's the only change that I see so adopt the Minutes anybody.

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frank murphy: Can we have to second that.

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Vicki Halliday: No second it frank vicki.

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frank murphy: Okay anybody object.

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frank murphy: Alright, so the Minutes are.

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frank murphy: done reviewing comment i'm sorry that was the agenda.

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Elizabeth Wright: That was now.

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frank murphy: we're going to review and comment on the minister posted.

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frank murphy: On for the last meeting, which was November 30.

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frank murphy: And those were posted any.

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frank murphy: So we need to go to a vote on that anybody want a second fat.

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frank murphy: Okay, any objections to the Minutes.

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frank murphy: alright.

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frank murphy: chair report is.

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frank murphy: it's just to let everybody know.

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frank murphy: The homeless Roundtable will be we'll see who we get we haven't gotten anybody checked in, yet we have three possibles.

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frank murphy: um so we have a new committee Member Jody mortimer and Jody is I think he's got he wants to share screen with you vicki.

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Vicki Halliday: I believe.

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Vicki Halliday: I believe you can do it down in the Center do you have did you have a share screen God.

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Vicki Halliday: At the bottom of the screen.

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Jody Mortimer: Well, I was going to do a kind of a PowerPoint or some pictures, but since i'm using my phone I really just be me speaking, unfortunately, I can only send you pictures to your email I switched my my laptop to windows 11 and it's just.

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Jody Mortimer: You know how.

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Jody Mortimer: So so.

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frank murphy: Jody take it away.

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Jody Mortimer: Can everybody hear me.

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Jody Mortimer: Before, so I want to thank you all thank everybody for giving me the opportunity to be on the committee, and it should then share my experience um I do have some lawyer jokes but i'll wait on us for later, for being here afterwards.

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Jody Mortimer: And we go i'm I am my name is Jody i'm 53 or 54 i'm not quite sure I stopped counting last year during coded.

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Jody Mortimer: born in the Northwest but my formal education was in South Florida.

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Jody Mortimer: I gotta say that that my hero in my life is my mother.

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Jody Mortimer: she's now at four years old and without with my brother and Oregon they're very fortunate to live together.

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Jody Mortimer: As a youngster I did have a suicide attempt, so there was some some signs of mental distress at that time.

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Jody Mortimer: I took all the pills from my medicine my mother's medicine cabinet and I do remember you think I do remember waking up in the hospital with my mother crying next to the bed next to my chair the Chair next to my day I honestly think it was a cry for attention and boy did I get it.

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Jody Mortimer: In the in the living in South Florida in the mid 80s cell phone was in the midst of a cocaine epidemic.

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Jody Mortimer: My older brother had already been caught up in the legal system, so my mother took me to a navy recruiter one of the best decisions that was ever made for me.

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Jody Mortimer: I excelled in the military and I got choice orders to Japan and was stationed on the USS midway, which is actually museum down in San Diego.

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Jody Mortimer: If you ever get a chance, please visit it it's one of the best things.

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Jody Mortimer: I served in the Gulf War and.

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Jody Mortimer: Then, after the way I tend to top gun in miramar as a newness of controller after the navy, like other events, I had a hard time adjusting to civil civilian life.

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Jody Mortimer: Eventually, I did become homeless.

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Jody Mortimer: But before that I had worked many different jobs, after the navy I answered it and when when did I do remember, is it I answered an ad for a promise helper and in the local paper now I thought it was an apprenticeship with that.

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Jody Mortimer: With a master plumber, and I would just be learning the train I quickly found out that it was basically digging very deep long ditches.

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Jody Mortimer: Well, that didn't last very long as soon found the hospitality industry and was fairly quickly a catering director and manager at a hotel.

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Jody Mortimer: While working that position, I also took nonlinear editing classes at the local community college my final project was considered too aggressive for the class and was deleted from the school drives but i'd already learned the skill by then.

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Jody Mortimer: I also began flying instructing the instructor.

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Jody Mortimer: I just started flying solo when 911 happened and, as we know, everybody was grounded in time.

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Jody Mortimer: The Internet and just started and a position opened up at a new Internet startup as a video editor and cameraman I worked remotely for that company for almost eight years until it was only 2013.

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Jody Mortimer: Just to my computer, as we all doing now during coding, but it didn't I don't think it really helped for my mental illness, because it progressed as over those years and wasn't really noticeable because I was so alone and working remotely.

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Jody Mortimer: There is something to be said, I would think about going into the office and seeing people once in a while, at least once or twice a week.

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Jody Mortimer: After that I sort of lost my compass, and then I went I went homeless, I went to a rehab and because I still wanted to fly, I never sought help with the now diagnosed ptsd.

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Jody Mortimer: And I asked her that va and it was truly the best thing for me and obviously for many other vets that are suffered still homeless, but living in my rp I went back to college in college and finished my degree in film at portland State University.

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Jody Mortimer: With my degree and the notion that there was no way I was going to spend another winter in the garden in the Northwest guess, where I moved I moved to southern California, to the safe parking that was at the va for the homeless vets that are in their cars and rv.

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Jody Mortimer: With the, with the help of the va dash program I was extremely fortunate to find a property owner, the owner here in Venice and through his good grace.

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Jody Mortimer: They accepted gave me the opportunity, except for the vasculature and I had my own apartment now, this is what a like a picture of a key to getting in my hand would have been shown in front of you.

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Jody Mortimer: I had my own apartment with running hot water, electricity and a toilet.

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Jody Mortimer: front door the lot.

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Jody Mortimer: The best thing about my new place is the very supportive neighbors neighbors that I have.

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Jody Mortimer: There are many different cultures in the building and they all strive and thrive, to make our little six apartment building a really supportive community.

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Jody Mortimer: I would also be neglected neglectful if I didn't mention the one on one support in case management from the va and the bash workers.

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Jody Mortimer: They really go out of their way.

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Jody Mortimer: Then cove it, but we all know about that, and you don't nobody wants to hear any Kobe South stories we've all experienced the same thing, but since then I have achieved my advanced peer support specialist certificate from share.

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Jody Mortimer: And my intentions are to work with the hiring process of working with the va homeless outreach as I read a homeless outreach worker but i'm also an.

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Jody Mortimer: would be very interested in either volunteer or working for the for the circle, which is a first responder team that they're doing now, you know we're through I believe outcome.

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Jody Mortimer: I did respond to them, I think I would be an asset to this community and committee because of my lived experience my ability to find and relate to the issues of the current on house and homeless of Venice.

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Jody Mortimer: And the newly House also I do think outside the box on many issues, and what appreciate and do thank you for listening to me, and maybe, possibly even my ideas in the future.

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Jody Mortimer: Thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you, thank you God.

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frank murphy: Thank you God that's.

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frank murphy: So life story.

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frank murphy: there's public comment, right now, one minute each on well one minute each on non agenda items.

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frank murphy: Does anybody wish to comment on non agenda items.

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Vicki Halliday: Up hands up, let me on.

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Vicki Halliday: Le been first up the alley.

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Alley Bean: hi there, thank you for that story Jody and welcome.

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Alley Bean: very moving Clark, I actually wanted to ask you a question here on the homeless committee because it's where your motion sort of started.

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Alley Bean: I saw a lot of letters we all did just you know from westchester and I did vote for your motion and I read the whole thing, but I didn't really look carefully at the lots that you were suggesting.

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Alley Bean: And I understand they're concerned about the school, you know lot, so our is that all being dealt with or can I, as a board member suggest a reconsideration with you, of making the lots clear, so that West Chester is not oppose.

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Alley Bean: I don't know exactly how to do that, but I think if you make a reconsideration of the moment of the motion and take away the lots near the school and the ones that West her to westchester or maybe vicki knows better than I do, how to do I don't know how to do it.

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Vicki Halliday: But I just want.

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Vicki Halliday: look like think about it, he can't he can't talk back and forth with you right now actually.

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Alley Bean: To get that.

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Vicki Halliday: commented, the.

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Alley Bean: Okay, thanks.

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Vicki Halliday: George Thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: Next up Helen ballon they'll go on.

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Helen Fallon: Right um I actually was going to bring up the same issue, I understand that there are folks in westchester pretty upset about the fact that.

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Helen Fallon: Our neighborhood Council is on record as suggesting that that lot of cross.

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Helen Fallon: visitation school, the US for homeless when they went out of their way when they worked really hard to get the city to back down on it, I don't want to see.

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Helen Fallon: The Balkanization of CD 11 and us being pitted against each other, so I think you folks brought that emotion forward, I think you need to do something about it.

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Helen Fallon: ASAP to fix the situation it's it's not cool for us to be fighting amongst ourselves and CD 11 and I don't think any out.

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Helen Fallon: It should have been removed because apparently January, it was very clear that the city was supposedly backing off on that one.

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Helen Fallon: So if we're helping anybody we're helping to fund his Office does it say publicly they weren't going to go forward with anything on there, but.

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Helen Fallon: doesn't help if we're taking official nc position, so I hope i'm urging you to straighten it out, you guys brought it forward, I think you should straighten it out, thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you Helen.

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Vicki Halliday: next step john frank.

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John Frank Venice Branch: Hello hi my name's john frank, I just wanted to say just to introduce myself i'm the new senior librarian at the Venice branch just started this week, and it seems that a lot of our interest kind of intersect, so I will probably be sitting in on most of your meetings.

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Vicki Halliday: Right welcome.

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frank murphy: Nice to meet you.

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Vicki Halliday: Well last person is dawn there you go done.

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Dawn: hi Thank you and.

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Dawn: So I wanted to bring up.

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Dawn: Yesterday we got path to come out to Washington Square, which is half Venice and a half, Marina and because there's been a growing and kampmann I guess when.

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Dawn: alchemy in the circle did their assessment they're not servicing Washington boulevard so we got them to come out and help a veteran.

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Dawn: They received housing, but had no transportation for someone in a wheelchair to Hollywood where the housing was.

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Dawn: And there's about eight people there right now that want help and can't get it, the gentleman and question I tried for three hours to try to find a wheelchair accessible ride that I was going to pay for.

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Dawn: couldn't find one you spent the night on the street today at ambulance took him to the hospital, because the man was in really bad shape.

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Dawn: And now he's at Marina del rey hospital he lost the room, because he couldn't get there, so the organization's able to provide the room, but not help, and this is true for another man that lives in front of the whaler, so I think that.

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Dawn: From what I hear from many of my neighbors and my over 15 years helping with the homeless in Venice.

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Dawn: There are people who do want to be off the street, but the hoops they have to jump through in order to be off the street.

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Dawn: are insurmountable I spent three hours trying to find this man, a ride and I don't have a limited minutes on my phone I don't have limited things so.

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Dawn: I just hope as a Community, we can just not make them the other and actually find ways to if people want the help to not make them jump through so many helps to get it and keep it so that's all I wanted to share.

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Dawn: Thankfully Ralph is in the hospital getting the care he needs and i'm hoping when he gets out, we can also get this homeless veteran with one leg inside housing, because he can't take care of himself, thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you john.

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Vicki Halliday: That was the end of our public comments frank so.

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frank murphy: All right, um we have.

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frank murphy: i've seen cat on there right now.

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Vicki Halliday: yeah her Catherine.

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frank murphy: Oh i'm sorry okay there.

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frank murphy: um we're going to have discussion at the end.

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frank murphy: And I think we've got some stuff to work, and that was that was where I thought we would be.

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frank murphy: I know Stan Muhammad is is out, he he's not capable of being here this evening because he's feeling pretty bad and.

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frank murphy: So, but we have.

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frank murphy: Go ahead and unmute yourself Catherine.

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Pat Raphael: Sorry, yes, so I i've been saying for a while that this committee needs to involve as many people's points of views in the conversation as possible.

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Pat Raphael: And these are neighbors of mine who have had to because she's married she's got her husband with their.

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Pat Raphael: they've got a pet so they've got some unique situations that offer particular hurdles that they have to deal with, and I think their experience might inform some of the decisions that we have to.

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Pat Raphael: come together on and they're also veterans so I just wanted to set it up and let everybody get a sense of who our neighbor cat is.

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frank murphy: Excellent so Catherine, and your husband his name is rick.

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frank murphy: Can you just sort of give us a.

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frank murphy: You know, a.

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frank murphy: summary of your story and what your concerns are you know, like and needs and wants etc as a homeless, as almost person out here in Venice.

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Catherine Schultis: Not a problem well let's see.

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Catherine Schultis: um brief story.

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Catherine Schultis: i'll try and be as brief as possible um let's see I joined the army at 18 because my mom told me she goes there's not enough money for you to go to college kid.

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Catherine Schultis: So either join the army or at 18 you're homeless, so I joined the army, I ended up in multiple abusive relationships that caused me to end up on the streets.

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Catherine Schultis: I moved to Venice and.

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Catherine Schultis: And i've been a vendor on the boardwalk since then.

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Catherine Schultis: We got contacted by path.

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Catherine Schultis: September 16.

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Catherine Schultis: Last year we are actively work going through the process of actually getting into housing through hud bash.

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Catherine Schultis: that's been a pain in the ass.

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Catherine Schultis: it's just been one more piece of paper one more piece of paper one more piece of paper for the last like four months.

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Catherine Schultis: They did they literally have to go through everything if you if you own a business even selling art, they have to know how much do you make how taxes.

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Catherine Schultis: They delve into every aspect of your life so like a couple of them were saying insurmountable hurdle, the hurdles are a pain in the ass I can verify that.

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Catherine Schultis: It I mean and then with the va a lot of my issue was being humanitarian like I was half the time the va didn't I didn't qualify for services at all because of.

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Catherine Schultis: I didn't serve long enough, and because I got out because I was pregnant.

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Catherine Schultis: yeah they didn't want to help me they still don't want to help me that's an uphill battle we'll deal with that when it comes.

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Catherine Schultis: But that's basically backstory.

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Catherine Schultis: lot of it a lot of the shelters don't take service ducks.

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Catherine Schultis: at all or low couples or allow couples um and who wants to go into a shelter and not sleep next to their partner, just to go get help, not a lot of people.

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Catherine Schultis: Especially if you've been cohabitate eating and sleeping together, you know, and the other person finds your presence as a source of comfort, so that they can get a good night's sleep, you know so that that is one big big big reason that there are so many couples left stuck on a street.

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Catherine Schultis: Because there is nowhere, especially if you're not married, you have to be married you.

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frank murphy: Yes.

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frank murphy: we're losing you.

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Catherine Schultis: can't just be X it very, very difficult.

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Catherine Schultis: Yet, to help when you do want it, because of all of these hurdles.

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Catherine Schultis: So.

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Vicki Halliday: We keep losing you Catherine oh.

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Vicki Halliday: Sorry that's.

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Catherine Schultis: So what parts, did you miss.

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frank murphy: Just a word very, very little.

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Okay.

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Catherine Schultis: i'm just making sure you heard most of what I said at least, because I think.

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Pat Raphael: Talking about your your your difficulties as a couple and not be married how that kind of that's kind of where it's cutting off.

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Catherine Schultis: Okay, basically yeah anybody who is not married has a very difficult time getting into a shelter, because most of them have a prerequisite if you're going to stay and live together, you have to be married.

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Catherine Schultis: So that makes it very, very difficult for anybody who's cohabitation, but not married to actually get into it.

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A couple shell.

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Catherine Schultis: I mean they all run a background check, so you know, to check, especially if they have children, you have to check for child molesters etc so forth, you know they they do all of that that standard practice.

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Catherine Schultis: But a lot like I was saying, a lot of them don't take couples and then they won't take.

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Catherine Schultis: Service animals either that's why I actually appreciated the fact that the bridge housing here actually does that.

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Catherine Schultis: As far as that goes i've been on the list, since before that son of a bitch opened and they still haven't told me that I could even go in there, so it's been so full that there is no space at all, every time I asked them call them they're like no.

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Catherine Schultis: So if you work with last last I cannot place you at the bridge house at all you have to go to St joseph's.

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Catherine Schultis: You know, so it seems sometimes these organizations shuffle you from one to the next to the next to the next and then people get defeated and they're like well why the hell, am I jumping through all these hoops to try and get help and it it just over time, you get defeated.

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Catherine Schultis: A lot of the time, and I can feel like you're getting nowhere yeah like he said it a lot of the time it feels like you're getting absolutely nowhere.

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Catherine Schultis: You know you start the process and then you get told nope not here, so you go to the next person nope not here, and you call and you call I mean when I was newly homeless, I called so many shelters and couldn't it and I wasn't even in California yet.

417
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Catherine Schultis: You know, and I experienced that every single state i've ever been in as a homeless person they're.

418
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Catherine Schultis: they're waiting list for housing is 1020 years long.

419
00:45:02.910 --> 00:45:06.750
Catherine Schultis: Because section eight has poor people from everywhere.

420
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Catherine Schultis: A lot of the issue with that is.

421
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Catherine Schultis: Nobody wants to live next to an addict in recovery 25 years ago we labeled the addict disabled per the fair housing act of 1996.

422
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Catherine Schultis: And then there's been nothing.

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Catherine Schultis: I mean there's so much Community backlash because no one wants to live next to an addict in recovery.

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Jody Mortimer: May I ask a question.

425
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Jody Mortimer: Yes, absolutely.

426
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Jody Mortimer: You have you already completed your VI spit at your vulnerability for the committee that's the vulnerability index.

427
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Jody Mortimer: Have you already done that.

428
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Catherine Schultis: I believe so.

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Jody Mortimer: Okay that's it, that would be your first step so and have you received a voucher yet not yet.

430
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Catherine Schultis: not yet they told me i'm on the very, very, very last process part of that.

431
00:46:02.430 --> 00:46:03.960
Catherine Schultis: My case managers.

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Catherine Schultis: Right now, is Sarah Fisk um but she's Ray said that basically all as soon as we get his little security card in the mail, they can get a smooth den.

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Jody Mortimer: yeah sounds good that's probably what they need is a social security card.

434
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Jody Mortimer: Once that's done it's really much is pretty much it's just a matter of a few, you know not very long at all and did they offer you the room, the room key option.

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Catherine Schultis: No yeah well, we did project room key briefly, yes, and then both of us ended up having a bad Mental Health Day.

436
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Jody Mortimer: Oh yeah okay.

437
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Catherine Schultis: got into an argument and they kicked us out because we are.

438
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Jody Mortimer: All right, thank you.

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frank murphy: Good i'm.

440
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frank murphy: Not.

441
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frank murphy: No problem God i'm.

442
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frank murphy: Catherine, can you come.

443
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frank murphy: delve more into your story, before we start to unload a bunch of questions on you.

444
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frank murphy: Not too.

445
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frank murphy: Bad you were you said you were at the share housing also.

446
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Catherine Schultis: Share housing.

447
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frank murphy: Was it was that.

448
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frank murphy: What was it, I thought it would share house.

449
00:47:31.320 --> 00:47:32.010
With Jody.

450
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frank murphy: Oh.

451
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Catherine Schultis: That wasn't me.

452
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Okay.

453
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Catherine Schultis: Now i've been mine has been I like I said I was homeless.

454
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Catherine Schultis: Starting in 2008.

455
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Catherine Schultis: My biggest setback to employment has been since the 2008 recession, nobody will hire me they've told me with a three page resume.

456
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Catherine Schultis: you're overqualified I started going at that time I was living in Chicago I walked my resume door to door at every single help wanted sign and I got told no you're overqualified know you're overqualified.

457
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Know you're overqualified.

458
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Catherine Schultis: I will scrub your toilet with a slip in toothbrush give me, you know, a job, nothing.

459
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frank murphy: yeah.

460
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Catherine Schultis: yeah no.

461
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Catherine Schultis: My most recent rejection from employment was I lived in the high desert we actually got housing for a little while i'm.

462
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Catherine Schultis: ended up going through not being able to find employment to keep the housing, because the housing program only helps you, for it was us feds they only helped me for one year.

463
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Catherine Schultis: I applied to everything that I could find where they had house me nothing no opportunities for work, I actually got a rejection email from.

464
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Catherine Schultis: 426 21 and three years later, they finally decided to reject me for multiple positions that I had applied for up there.

465
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Catherine Schultis: So.

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Catherine Schultis: I mean if i'm struggling to find a job as a veteran with an a good resume that they professionally wrote, for me, when I got out, I can only imagine you know with someone with far less resources than myself, thanks to the va is struggling yet to go through.

467
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Catherine Schultis: Like i'm privileged I understand that even amongst the homeless we're privileged because we have the connections through the va you know and more people are willing to help veterans than they are you know, the average person.

468
00:49:46.470 --> 00:49:48.570
Catherine Schultis: And I mean.

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Catherine Schultis: it's like if this is exhausting the hell out of us, you know as a veteran I can only imagine the level of exhaustion that people like Pat, and you know others feel.

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frank murphy: Well let's let's open it up Jody you got more questions any money.

471
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Jody Mortimer: Yes, I think one more Catherine, thank you for sharing that story, and I know it's rough out there, and you and your partner are showing a lot of strength by.

472
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Jody Mortimer: By coming up.

473
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Jody Mortimer: For the Community and sharing the story takes a lot of courage.

474
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Jody Mortimer: I do believe let's see your vast case manager.

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Jody Mortimer: Once you get into a place your case management with bash it should be a lot easier because what they do, one on one like I said case management, and I think working with the va you're on the right.

476
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Jody Mortimer: it's just I guess that that social security card is is your issue that's all I have.

477
00:51:07.620 --> 00:51:17.070
Catherine Schultis: Today, so he should be getting that in two weeks so they'll probably move me in the next two but that's fingers crossed everything continues to go well.

478
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Jody Mortimer: we'll just stay with case management.

479
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Jody Mortimer: Use them like you use them, like you, and even if you do struggle, because what happens is a lot of people do struggle.

480
00:51:28.830 --> 00:51:35.730
Jody Mortimer: When you know because it's hard once you've been outside to go back and doors and over 50%.

481
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Jody Mortimer: You know, end up back out on the streets homeless on House just stick with that case management make them work everything wants you to stay in your place so.

482
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Jody Mortimer: it's gonna be it's gonna happen.

483
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Catherine Schultis: I just worry about losing the voucher again.

484
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Catherine Schultis: darn it.

485
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Elizabeth Wright: Catherine, yes, if you feel comfortable, would you share.

486
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Elizabeth Wright: Describing where you live like is it a tent is it a shed is it.

487
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Catherine Schultis: I am.

488
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Elizabeth Wright: Vehicle and how did you acquire it.

489
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Catherine Schultis: I live in an SUV I purchased it.

490
00:52:24.540 --> 00:52:26.610
Catherine Schultis: Thankfully, from a friend.

491
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Catherine Schultis: I took we qualified, since we do make a little money.

492
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Catherine Schultis: I applied for unemployment, since the Federal Government had opened that up to everybody.

493
00:52:40.080 --> 00:52:48.360
Catherine Schultis: Even the self employed, so we went ahead and applied for that during the pandemic to try and you know get us on our feet and.

494
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Catherine Schultis: You know, so I bought a vehicle so that I would at least have somewhere to stay and then while I searched for housing, etc, you know I can travel I can go to work, I can you know, trying to get back into that game of I need a job that right ration I know I need those things.

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00:53:11.460 --> 00:53:16.380
Catherine Schultis: You know I want those things it's just it feels like.

496
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Catherine Schultis: Everything has worked against me for the last 15 years every time I get into housing something happens and I lose it.

497
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Catherine Schultis: it's been it I don't.

498
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Catherine Schultis: Care I mean from like I said domestic assault domestic abuse bad relationships all of that has contributed to me being homeless.

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Pat Raphael: Well i'm glad to hear there seems to be some light at the end of this road.

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Pat Raphael: Now, as far as people who are still going to have to cope and deal with the current state of homelessness as it is here in Venice now is there anything your experience can help us with or any ideas that we should be thinking as we're trying to figure out how to deal with the best outcomes.

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Catherine Schultis: All right, um when he and I lived in phoenix we met there.

502
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Catherine Schultis: My ex boyfriend actually dumped me at the shelter they're the one that abused me for about six and a half years.

503
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Catherine Schultis: So.

504
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Catherine Schultis: I met my current partner they're.

505
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Catherine Schultis: Basically, we lived at a they had a campus in downtown phoenix That was the homeless shelter there.

506
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Catherine Schultis: And then they had a parking lot across the way that housed approximately 500 people on any given night roughly.

507
00:54:58.110 --> 00:55:07.110
Catherine Schultis: And it was just a parking lot you went in with your sleeping bags and everything and they basically locked the fence at night.

508
00:55:07.800 --> 00:55:23.370
Catherine Schultis: and basically corralled all the homeless people from about 6pm to 5am they left to squad cars on either side, they let them do their drugs have sex do whatever the hell, they wanted to like adults as long as there was no fighting.

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Catherine Schultis: Okay, if there was any fighting police came in broke up the fight took people to jail, otherwise they left him to their own devices, as long as there wasn't any you know loud obnoxious bullshit going on.

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Catherine Schultis: They closed that down shortly after he and I had decided to move they'd actually made given out the notice that they were closing it anyway, and I do believe that that's what led us to.

511
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Catherine Schultis: To move we ended up in Las Vegas briefly before that.

512
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Catherine Schultis: panhandled on the strip made enough money for.

513
00:56:03.060 --> 00:56:06.030
Catherine Schultis: To rent a hotel room every day for a week.

514
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Catherine Schultis: So when people would ask me if i'm homeless, when I was in Vegas I was like Well, yes i'm actually homeless by a technicality.

515
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Catherine Schultis: For the fair housing act of 1996 if your name is not on a mortgage and or at least you're considered homeless extended stay hotels and motels do not count as adequate housing for the fair housing act so yes i'm still homeless.

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Catherine Schultis: It I mean it's a lot to tell somebody but you know people actually were willing to support that because they were like okay you're using this money to go get shelter fine.

517
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Catherine Schultis: So we had a pretty good experience with that.

518
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Catherine Schultis: ended up.

519
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Catherine Schultis: going from Vegas to New York briefly.

520
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Catherine Schultis: We were going to stay with family up there.

521
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Catherine Schultis: And that didn't work out too well, we got jobs up there and got home from work, the very first night and his sister decided Fuck you get out of my apartment i'm tired of dealing with you at 1130 at night in the middle of the snow in New York.

522
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Catherine Schultis: So that's when we hopped on a bus and ended up out here back out here in California.

523
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Catherine Schultis: So yeah i've been through a lot of random random bullshit.

524
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Catherine Schultis: I mean it is it's all absolutely random I mean if you believe in God and a higher power it's all god's design, I know that, too, I put up with it.

525
00:57:37.890 --> 00:57:47.220
Catherine Schultis: And know god's got me here, for whatever reason i'm here for maybe it was to talk to y'all and you know help with other homeless people because.

526
00:57:48.030 --> 00:58:02.640
Catherine Schultis: You know you're treated as less than human every single day and that wears on a person absolute flippantly it wears on a person I mean you're treated as less than dress you're told go get a job.

527
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Catherine Schultis: Where I have nowhere to wash my clothes I smell bad, I know I smell bad where, am I supposed to go how am I supposed to get a job, how you know and.

528
00:58:16.440 --> 00:58:20.100
Catherine Schultis: It it absolutely becomes insurmountable after a while.

529
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frank murphy: i'm.

530
00:58:29.250 --> 00:58:31.380
frank murphy: Not quite sure how to frame the question but.

531
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frank murphy: As a woman on the street It just seems to me that the situation would be many, many multiples more difficult than a male.

532
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frank murphy: um.

533
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Catherine Schultis: You have to worry about sexual assault rape things like that, if you're not with a male.

534
00:59:01.410 --> 00:59:03.180
Catherine Schultis: A lot of the time you'll run into that.

535
00:59:04.860 --> 00:59:12.480
Catherine Schultis: i've heard stories from other women especially here in Venice about being raped, the greater Los Angeles area about being raped.

536
00:59:17.190 --> 00:59:24.120
Catherine Schultis: homelessness is basically ran like a prison yard on the street that's The easiest way to describe it.

537
00:59:25.200 --> 00:59:29.490
Catherine Schultis: they're very misogynistic a lot of the men that are homeless.

538
00:59:30.870 --> 00:59:35.100
Catherine Schultis: So if you're in a relationship, the girl gets mouthy they'll try and attack the man.

539
00:59:36.810 --> 00:59:38.610
Catherine Schultis: So you go through a lot of that as well.

540
00:59:40.410 --> 00:59:42.450
Catherine Schultis: there's a lot of street politics.

541
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Catherine Schultis: A lot of the time because.

542
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Catherine Schultis: I don't know, I know, both in phoenix and here a lot of the street organizations were gang related.

543
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Jody Mortimer: Student code.

544
00:59:57.000 --> 01:00:04.710
Catherine Schultis: yeah basically but it's it's part of gangs, I mean a lot of former gang Members are homeless or.

545
01:00:06.000 --> 01:00:07.080
Catherine Schultis: I mean I don't know.

546
01:00:08.370 --> 01:00:10.260
Catherine Schultis: But I know there's a lot of that.

547
01:00:13.470 --> 01:00:14.610
Catherine Schultis: God, you had a question.

548
01:00:15.360 --> 01:00:19.530
Jody Mortimer: No, I think, frank was trying, it was was a was it was asking a question.

549
01:00:20.160 --> 01:00:20.550
Okay.

550
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frank murphy: um yeah I was just.

551
01:00:26.340 --> 01:00:30.210
frank murphy: As a proportion of homelessness.

552
01:00:33.360 --> 01:00:41.070
frank murphy: Women are not as visible is that fair to say, or is it that there's that many fewer women.

553
01:00:42.690 --> 01:00:53.760
Catherine Schultis: um there's more shelters open for women, most of the time, then there are men that is that's the biggest reason why there are fewer homeless on the street all the time, women.

554
01:00:54.270 --> 01:01:01.050
Catherine Schultis: Most of the time, those that you do see on the street it's because they're in a relationship and they refused to leave him behind.

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Jody Mortimer: Catherine were you suggesting my phoenix that there would be a parking lot there I think downtown has to have those exact same types of parking lot is from through an organization from San Francisco.

556
01:01:20.460 --> 01:01:23.430
Jody Mortimer: Is that what you were saying that something that you were suggesting.

557
01:01:24.420 --> 01:01:28.260
Catherine Schultis: I was just throwing it out there if there's empty parking I mean.

558
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Catherine Schultis: containment, I mean if it's that big of an issue, give them a safe place to be.

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Jody Mortimer: In the end of the song and that's where the social services.

560
01:01:38.910 --> 01:01:40.200
Catherine Schultis: Yes, absolutely.

561
01:01:41.940 --> 01:01:45.420
Catherine Schultis: Give them a place where they get all their services in one yelp.

562
01:01:46.560 --> 01:02:03.390
Catherine Schultis: All their services in one area because shuffling around makes it harder for them to find you to house you to service you etc, I mean pushing you from blockade a block, be it, you lose your stamp, you lose your documents.

563
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Catherine Schultis: Having trash sweeps like that somebody could have just went and got all their documents to go get housing and then oh shit I wasn't there I you know for the trash truck and there goes all my shit and now I got to start over from square one.

564
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frank murphy: yeah yeah Clark, you had done some questions.

565
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clark brown: i've got a couple questions for Catherine, and also question for God character, is it the case that you're the reason you and your partner are living out of your SUV and say you can't find a bed beneath the roof.

566
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Catherine Schultis: um right now we're waiting on housing and both of us did apply to the bridge shelter and they didn't have space.

567
01:02:44.520 --> 01:02:52.740
clark brown: So the answer right now is that the reason you and your partner are living out of your SUV is that you can't find a bed beneath the roof Is that correct.

568
01:02:53.250 --> 01:02:56.490
Catherine Schultis: Yes, that will take both of us without separating that's yeah.

569
01:02:57.690 --> 01:03:07.290
clark brown: Do you park your SUV in a safe parking la facility or do you just park it anywhere on the street, where you can find a space that's available.

570
01:03:08.130 --> 01:03:14.250
Catherine Schultis: Presently we're just parking it wherever we can find a spot move it every 72 hours like you're supposed to or.

571
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Catherine Schultis: Sometimes I think they're being lenient right now with covidien it's it's about every two weeks, because the street sweeping i'm.

572
01:03:22.710 --> 01:03:25.740
clark brown: Am I am I correct that you don't have access to.

573
01:03:26.790 --> 01:03:32.580
clark brown: Water toilet facilities or cooking facilities or electricity or anything like that.

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Catherine Schultis: um I do, because I can i'm just a couple blocks from the beach, so I can go up there and then i'm close enough, where I presently am to go get shower services from.

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Catherine Schultis: Urban alchemy over there on third street if I want to.

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clark brown: Okay, what about is security, a problem for you are living out of a SUV.

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Catherine Schultis: um.

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Catherine Schultis: yeah because there's a lot of teachers in those downtown and i'm with all of you on that the attics are a pain in the ass.

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Catherine Schultis: Would you like crying they try and come rob me at night to so we have weapons do I threaten the tweeters absa flipping lately.

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clark brown: We ask a question to God and then come back to Catherine in just a moment.

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clark brown: I get the impression at the va that the people who were out on a sample sandy boulevard and have moved have been moved into the va on to lots of.

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clark brown: The tests are moved into the va on lots and at those lots there is some semblance of security, some semblance of social services showers water.

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clark brown: fair.

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clark brown: Facilities like that is that accurate.

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Jody Mortimer: That is accurate actually going.

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clark brown: In your opinion, does that make it do they move their to the people who had tense out on Sam said he moved their tents into these more secure areas within the Redwood reservation.

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Jody Mortimer: Can you hear me.

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clark brown: Yes, sir.

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Jody Mortimer: yeah, that is true, they did do that.

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clark brown: Your opinion does that improve their lives.

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frank murphy: Park, I can hey i'm waiting for an answer.

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frank murphy: Oh sorry.

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frank murphy: to interrupt but.

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yeah.

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Jody Mortimer: My um you know Okay, yes, they actually did move a man, and it has men say increase that sense of community.

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Jody Mortimer: they've they've actually split it into two areas over there, one is for the individuals that are really not seeking immediate housing.

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Jody Mortimer: You know, they just need a safe place, and you know they're not following their doctor's orders or something you know they're not really compliant.

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Jody Mortimer: But they did make a space for them, those were the normal ones along the street it all started with a.

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Jody Mortimer: A nonprofit and gave them all new tense, they were all uniform and they looked very nice, but then they moved him inside after coven and then they split it up between them.

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Jody Mortimer: And then the ones that are seeking help that are compliant with their medication with the doctors, that are the you know, the biggest thing.

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Jody Mortimer: Catherine right, that is the biggest thing that suggested for those veterans is, you have to make your appointments and you've got to be able to be in touch, because if they have no way to get in touch with you that's when you fall through the cracks.

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clark brown: Catherine, if you were able to move your SUV in order environment like God just described that improve your life.

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Catherine Schultis: might make things a little nicer yeah.

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Jody Mortimer: Have you tried to be a safe parking, although they do ask you to leave in the morning, it is, it is really good over there, I mean it really helps me a lot.

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Catherine Schultis: We haven't presently the SUV doesn't move, other than flintstones power we're working on.

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Okay.

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Jody Mortimer: Well, maybe.

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Jody Mortimer: It.

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Jody Mortimer: Is what you need.

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Catherine Schultis: Like I said I bought a dead damn it by accident I didn't mean to it was running when I picked it up and then all of a sudden, it just bought and I was like well I gotta fix it.

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Jody Mortimer: Okay.

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All right.

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frank murphy: Catherine rick.

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frank murphy: This was this was very, very instructive and thanks pat so much, would you be willing to there's there's 14 attendees that no doubt have questions also is that something you might want to tackle.

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frank murphy: Something okay.

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frank murphy: vicki it looks like there's.

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Vicki Halliday: Nothing up.

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frank murphy: hands up.

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Vicki Halliday: Okay i'm.

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Vicki Halliday: worship Allah been go alley.

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Alley Bean: I Catherine Thank you so much for talking to us, this is really awesome to hear you and hear your plight and i'm sorry for what you're going through.

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Alley Bean: I have a question I it's funny I was just talking to somebody yesterday about phoenix he's from phoenix and I heard about that parking lot.

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Alley Bean: What is it like for you as a woman in recovery just because I know they're thinking about starting say parking like that RON Gal prints been talking about it here in Venice what's it like being in a parking lot where there is no.

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Alley Bean: You know where everybody else is allowed to openly deal drugs and take drugs is it hard for you, would you rather be in a situation.

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Alley Bean: Like it sounds like they're doing it, the bay area where they're separating people or is was it is it easy for you just because you're.

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Alley Bean: kind of used to the streets, at this point, and feel strong and I just I, I have a friend that won't go into a shelter, where people are doing drugs, because she feels she's gonna start using again.

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Catherine Schultis: i'll let him take this because i'm actually not an addict in recovery my partner is so I can't answer what it is.

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Alley Bean: i'm sorry I thought you said you were honey.

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Catherine Schultis: No, no that's okay i'll let him take that.

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Catherine Schultis: Because he's got six and a half years of sobriety for methamphetamine so i'll let him answer that.

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Alley Bean: Thank you so much, Catherine.

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impressive.

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Catherine Schultis: All right, um was an addict there's one thing you have to know when they're ready to stop don't stop and if they're going to stop.

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Catherine Schultis: And they don't want to be around that environment they're not going to be around that environment so absolutely don't force them to go into that environment if they don't feel that comfortable to do that.

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Alley Bean: So do you feel that there should be separate environments for people who are still in addiction and then people who are trying to recover.

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Catherine Schultis: um I would say yes, that those people are actually trying to recover just because I I had to redo basically do recovery, on my own, I had to quit on my own just because a wasn't helping like know the a meetings a.

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Catherine Schultis: Any of those meetings, the 12 steps meetings weren't helping for me and I wanted to stop because every time I went to an A a meeting I would.

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Catherine Schultis: come out and see someone right there in the alley doing dope or whatever, so that wasn't working for me, I had to truly be done to stop on my own and so when it's.

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Catherine Schultis: separated like that it would make it a lot easier on the attic especially like me I can't go down to third and rose just because of all the bullshit down there and.

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Catherine Schultis: I just don't want to be around it, you know what I mean.

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Alley Bean: I do.

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Catherine Schultis: I mean, I can fully understand if they're in recovery and they're trying to stay clean and in recovery, yes, separate them.

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Alley Bean: Thank you so much really appreciate it.

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Vicki Halliday: um let's see here next up we've got any from Mike Barnes office.

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-Annie Jump- Vicente: hey.

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-Annie Jump- Vicente: I just thank you for so much for sharing your story Catherine and rick it means a lot to me.

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-Annie Jump- Vicente: And the way that you described the fair housing act, well, it seems that.

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-Annie Jump- Vicente: i'm also homeless so living in and out of airbnb.

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-Annie Jump- Vicente: As someone who is.

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-Annie Jump- Vicente: not exactly on the same on house page and I you're talking about.

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-Annie Jump- Vicente: The camp in phoenix and then also having like a places for people to I guess like a like a specific place to congregate.

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-Annie Jump- Vicente: I have a couple of questions about that how large, would you say that the site would have to be.

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-Annie Jump- Vicente: And would there be any worry about it, turning into a skid row.

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-Annie Jump- Vicente: Because I know that bad Sir that area of La turn into what it is because of the congregating homeless services that ended up there, and then they all just kind of shoved them and lock them away into skid row.

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-Annie Jump- Vicente: So that that's what my fear is depending on the size of it, the services provided and how quick, can the services get provided.

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Catherine Schultis: i've seen a lot all right, I have more experience with the phoenix situation i'm phoenix literally is about.

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Catherine Schultis: Have nothing but homeless and services.

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Catherine Schultis: You got because they got your showers all right there you got.

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Catherine Schultis: meals all right there, and all the other services needed to like.

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Catherine Schultis: Help trying to find a job they got job car stuff employment stuff.

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Catherine Schultis: And they also help with like ID and everything like that, as well, so I mean I can understand your skid row situation, but if you enforce like here is literally nine to six for an intense if you guys actually enforce that role.

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Catherine Schultis: There shouldn't be any problem.

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Catherine Schultis: But having safe storage is another part of that because.

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They are.

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Jody Mortimer: What they do it to be what they do at the va is is they, they have a marked out certain amount of space it's like one driving space, you know, a car space, a little bit bigger than a car space.

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Jody Mortimer: And you don't have to leave in the day, or anything like that, but they got to keep everything in one space.

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Jody Mortimer: And it can be kept clean, as long as you know, the big four and a half to form a community, they have this form a little Community there and keeps it clean that's what they've done over there.

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Catherine Schultis: i'm hoping that senate those nine and 10 with allowing.

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Catherine Schultis: You know the section eight vouchers to be taken everywhere and then them to be able to build extra housing i'm hoping that will start to alleviate a lot of the homeless issue as well, those were, in my opinion, to very excellent bill well three actually because one was passed in 2019.

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Catherine Schultis: So those I think are three humongous helps I am hoping as time progresses to you know solving homelessness overall i'm hoping more cities follow you know saying we got to stop landlords from because when I was applying I actually.

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Catherine Schultis: For briefly when I lived in nebraska before my ex decided we were moving I had qualified for section eight.

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Catherine Schultis: And I was calling around trying to find somewhere to use my voucher every single landlord no we don't take section eight.

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Jody Mortimer: It is now illegal for them to say.

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Catherine Schultis: Yes, and i'm.

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Catherine Schultis: super happy that California passed that because, like I said I lived in nebraska at that point, and before my abusive ex decided we were leaving.

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Catherine Schultis: But.

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Catherine Schultis: I called so many landlords going hey do you take section eight no we don't.

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Jody Mortimer: If you don't have to.

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Jody Mortimer: say the approve of you, but they cannot literally sent me kicking on section eight vouchers.

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Jody Mortimer: Great Thank you.

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Catherine Schultis: i'm hoping that will help alleviate a lot of that.

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Catherine Schultis: Because there was a lot of definite oh you're poor.

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Catherine Schultis: screw you and that's what people see when they see a section eight voucher you're poor.

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Catherine Schultis: Go Fuck yourself you're not going to have a good credit history you're going to destroy my property you're going to do this you're going to do that there's all of these preconceived notions about you, because you are poor.

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Catherine Schultis: I think a lot of people don't realize how much of that actually goes on, because you're poor formerly homeless addict in recovery all of those things.

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Vicki Halliday: we've got another person with their hand up on Nick you're up.

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Nick Antonicello: yeah.

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Nick Antonicello: An interesting conversation, but one thing that I hope the homeless committee takes from this conversation with this woman.

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Nick Antonicello: is how dangerous the streets are she referred to being homeless as being like in jail on the streets.

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Nick Antonicello: and

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Catherine Schultis: yeah.

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Nick Antonicello: And so, if that's the case, why do we have a situation now where we're we're dealing with the homeless, we want to have social workers come down and negotiate solutions.

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Nick Antonicello: When the fact of the matter is, is that the streets are just as dangerous as jail and if you don't have a warrant horseman component to what's happening on the streets had a guy like rolling away we're out there, trying to reach, and you have a counselor like my tron and who.

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Nick Antonicello: Who hates law enforcement and doesn't and wants to change the whole dynamics and how you clean up homelessness and, in my opinion, he has no he has no plan.

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Nick Antonicello: He wants to keep the status quo, he doesn't want more information involved he doesn't want to fix anything.

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Nick Antonicello: And that's the fact and here you have a witness pretty much confirming that you have a person who's chronically on the street, she has said she was in nebraska Chicago New York phoenix all these different places and in all these different scenarios she runs into the same exact problem.

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Nick Antonicello: So I don't know why this committee.

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Nick Antonicello: Will not and and really should put together emotion.

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Nick Antonicello: And being that the sheriff's department and lapd play an active role in these encampments.

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Nick Antonicello: And then, it has to has to be.

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Nick Antonicello: Problems of grade and drugs and gang affiliation needs to be prosecuted.

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Nick Antonicello: it's as simple as that the rules apply to anyone, I don't care if you're a millionaire living in bel air or if you're on the streets and on the boardwalk in Venice beach a criminal is a criminal.

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Nick Antonicello: and needs to be treated as such, and this whole notion of you know, look everyone wants to be empathetic to someone's needs I get that.

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Nick Antonicello: But at the same time you're not going to fix the problem if you ignore the real realities of the street, and that they are dangerous and we need a law enforcement component to fix the problem.

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frank murphy: You got it.

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frank murphy: got a question for Catherine.

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Nick Antonicello: I just wanted to make a comment, I think, hopefully, honest and brutal about her situation and I don't want to.

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Nick Antonicello: I don't want to go there, but what I wanted to do is fix the problem and you cannot ignore just how dangerous it is on the streets, and no one seems to want to deal with that and this notion of eliminating the police and not working with.

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Nick Antonicello: pastor stop the borders on criminal action itself will have a counselor who doesn't care.

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Catherine Schultis: But here's.

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Catherine Schultis: here's the catch.

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Catherine Schultis: 22 most of the homeless people don't like the COPs and they won't talk to the police they'll make an ass out of themselves and get themselves locked up.

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Catherine Schultis: Because they don't like the.

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COPs.

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Nick Antonicello: Nick.

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frank murphy: Nick Nick what.

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frank murphy: Can we hear what Catherine has to say about that.

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sure.

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Catherine Schultis: Like I said go ahead okay like I was saying, most of that the catch 22 with having police involvement and i've seen it so many times i'm always respectful to the police.

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Catherine Schultis: I always have been my sister was a reserve police officer, so I know if you get an attitude with them they'll have one right back I know this.

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Catherine Schultis: But a lot of them, because they have been chronically institutionalized.

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Catherine Schultis: For petty crimes etc so forth, and end up homeless right they don't like the police, they won't deal with them, and they will get hostile to anyone associated with that COP it it's stupid, but that's how it goes it it's part of their.

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incident.

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Jody Mortimer: responders.

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Catherine Schultis: I mean I don't disagree that there should be, they should definitely at least be trained.

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Catherine Schultis: You know self protection, etc.

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Catherine Schultis: I mean shit they can carry tasers they can carry a gun, if need be okay what time you know even a baton you know the outreach worker can absolutely protect themselves, but having a uniformed police officer, much of the time causes more conflict than resolution right.

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Vicki Halliday: We have one last hand up be the last public comment or question or done.

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Dawn: Thank you, Catherine rick so you touched on a few things that i've been contemplating on a solution for our homeless problem, and so you talked about the element of addiction, you talked about.

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Dawn: element of safety, you talked about you guys having a mental health day a bad Mental Health Day and being kicked out so if we were to triage the homeless population, and I think that.

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Dawn: Out there that aren't police officers that are starting to do that so triage of like okay here are people who have jobs that live in their car or a shelter they've just been in touch.

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Dawn: With credit they don't have credit they have section eight so having trouble getting first and last so having some sort of financial counseling for those people and then moving on to the mentally ill.

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Dawn: Either if they're willing to get services to provide those services or a program where they could come and get medication if they're willing, that we can find for saying congrats you know.

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Dawn: have them come in one place, and then for the attics as rick said addicts are going to be ready when addicts are ready, so I think enforcing the law of not being able to loader will be helpful, with that.

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Dawn: And then I know one in four.

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Dawn: preview aged out of foster kids are now homeless so programs that would help them have stability before they age out of the system.

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Dawn: No just kind of do a Red Cross situation and assess people and bring organizations in to help those people, so if someone says, like the gentleman I helped yesterday.

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Dawn: He wants help in a bed that there's one available and their services available to help people stay on the path.

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Dawn: Few organizations, I volunteer with that set up a financial plan for these kids that were incarcerated in juvie and.

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Dawn: Previous foster kids aged out to be in the film industry, do you think that would be something that would be received if they were set up in a parking lot by the library, where all the new tents are or somewhere in Venice, where we could actually help people in their individual situations.

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Catherine Schultis: I think that would be an excellent idea, I mean.

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Catherine Schultis: Definitely going through yeah absolutely you know what is your situation basically you've got a caseworker that you sit down with what's your story what's they do a risk assessment on you, yes, absolutely something like that would definitely help people shuffled to their correct services.

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Catherine Schultis: that's like he was saying that's the shitty part about dealing with addicts they're gonna quit when they're ready to quit.

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Catherine Schultis: I mean my older brother okay isn't homeless, but he's 52 years old serving a 10 year sentence for third dui and a month.

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Catherine Schultis: mom and dad put him in the best rehabs and forced him to quit alcohol forced him to do all of these things, and here he is that 50 something years old, I think he's like 58 now and he's still drinking, so all of their intervention didn't do Dick.

746
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Catherine Schultis: Now, are younger.

747
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Catherine Schultis: And my younger brother.

748
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Catherine Schultis: yeah you get further addicted it depends on the person So yes, definitely having a triage situation like that to assess people's needs, yes, that would definitely help.

749
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Dawn: Fine, I brother lost his battle with.

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Vicki Halliday: That addiction.

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Dawn: Oh i'm glad years are still around and hopefully there's still hope for recovery for them.

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clark brown: For.

753
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clark brown: This quarter, for God God i'd like to take a look at that a Brentwood operation is there some way, I could walk in there and talk to somebody who.

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frank murphy: Can can we put that at the end.

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frank murphy: Sure, I stay with Catherine.

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clark brown: Oh sorry I thought I called up, on the other.

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Jody Mortimer: Part i'm sorry.

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You can.

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Catherine Schultis: I think the final thing i'd really love to see, especially for the mentally ill.

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Catherine Schultis: Because i've been thinking about that for a while, is Reagan did this country a great disservice, but I see why he shut down the mental health institutions.

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Catherine Schultis: Because I do know historically women in particular were thrown into insane asylums for simply being hysterical and that could be good have been for anything her being under periods, she was emotional whatever it was, and there was a lot of people.

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Catherine Schultis: In mental health institutions really had no business being in there.

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Catherine Schultis: And I think that was part of what led him to shut them down overall.

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Catherine Schultis: But i've also wondered why don't we have communities for the mentally ill, similar to.

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Catherine Schultis: Old folks retirement places.

766
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Catherine Schultis: You know somewhere where they are taken care of by doctors and nurses.

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Catherine Schultis: Where they have an SSI check coming in that helps pay their rent if they refuse their medication, they can do that if they end up on drugs, for whatever reason, they end up on drugs.

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Catherine Schultis: a place that they're not going to lose because they become addicted or they refuse to medication i've always wondered why we don't have something like that.

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Catherine Schultis: Because i've i've wondered what to do with the mentally ill myself for a very, very long time, as the severely mentally ill, I mean i've got ptsd from a lifetime of abuse.

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Catherine Schultis: So.

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Catherine Schultis: I mean, I was, I was adopted and then abused So for me do I get the Foster kids yes absolutely I feel for the Foster kids you know that aged out of the system, I sometimes I wish I could trade places with those kids.

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Catherine Schultis: But that's neither here nor there.

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Catherine Schultis: yeah so definitely definitely definitely want to help, especially with the mentally ill, but it's like What do you do that's not going to deprive a person of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness that's where it becomes.

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Catherine Schultis: tricky because everybody's entitled to that as an American I mean, even if we don't agree to what with what makes them happy, even if we don't agree with that, how can we.

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Catherine Schultis: Take their right away from them and that's what a lot of the argument on what do you do with the homeless that's what it devolves into is Who are we to deprive them now of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness and how do you.

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Catherine Schultis: not deprive them of that, while supporting them to rejoin society as a functional Member.

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frank murphy: Well, taken.

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frank murphy: Catherine you've given us a hell of a lot and rick you've given us a hell of a lot to work on.

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frank murphy: I really appreciate your joining us tonight and.

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frank murphy: You know, and at a later date, I hope that you'd be able to come back again and reiterate some of this and and we'll keep keep keep this on the forefront.

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frank murphy: really appreciate your joining us this evening.

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Vicki Halliday: and give us an update.

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You.

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Pat Raphael: guys.

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Catherine Schultis: I will i'll keep you posted i'll let everybody know the minute we move in dancing.

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Jody Mortimer: So i'll come by some time and say hello.

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clark brown: Can I ask a closing question of jodi jodi i'd like to take a look at that REP would operation is there some way I can go in there.

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clark brown: and talk to somebody who's kind of running it.

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Jody Mortimer: yeah you sure can just give you my number call me, and I can even arrange it.

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clark brown: Working her phone number.

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frank murphy: We can take that offline I.

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frank murphy: can be I can get you guys in touch with each other.

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Elizabeth Wright: Excuse me, as a quick recap, Catherine.

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Elizabeth Wright: What I got from you is you need a way to get Clean Clothes.

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Elizabeth Wright: It would be a whole lot easier on homeless people if there was some at least a general area where they could get all the services they need.

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Elizabeth Wright: and

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Elizabeth Wright: There is the ever present what is the answer of what to do with distribution mentally ill.

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Elizabeth Wright: Did I get that right.

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Catherine Schultis: Yes, ma'am.

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Jody Mortimer: I think she also need to mechanic.

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Catherine Schultis: Well we're.

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01:32:18.180 --> 01:32:20.460
Catherine Schultis: Battery battery now we got.

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Catherine Schultis: to fix.

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Catherine Schultis: You.

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Elizabeth Wright: Oh.

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I forgot.

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Elizabeth Wright: Not to put.

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Elizabeth Wright: recovering addict in with.

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Elizabeth Wright: activate active addicts.

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Elizabeth Wright: Not to be in the presence.

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Okay.

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frank murphy: perfect.

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frank murphy: Thank you so much, Catherine.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you so much for.

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Catherine Schultis: happy to help.

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frank murphy: Thank you okay we're close we we don't have a presentation from apple Butler that I don't see her on the.

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Vicki Halliday: I don't either.

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live.

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Pat Raphael: Can we.

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Pat Raphael: Considering the point that the school open comments made about the West Chester por que la.

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frank murphy: cuz I feel much based on.

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frank murphy: we'll touch base on that at the end when we have the committee comments.

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frank murphy: that's it.

824
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frank murphy: If you don't mind.

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frank murphy: So we have a so that that that item is off the, off the agenda for tonight.

826
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frank murphy: and hopefully we'll be able to get so but we're in.

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frank murphy: One of the future.

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frank murphy: Future meetings, we have a.

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frank murphy: Motion for discussion.

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frank murphy: that's vicki has put up and I want to.

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frank murphy: move that over to you vicki do you want to read the text of the motion and.

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frank murphy: comment on.

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Vicki Halliday: yeah and it has been identified that street detonations often do more harm than good.

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Vicki Halliday: By disrupting the process of connecting the announced with professional homeless support services to begin the process of getting off the street.

835
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Vicki Halliday: In 2017 the Venice neighborhood Council passed a resolution that encouraged individuals religious groups and Community organizations.

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Vicki Halliday: to coordinate with professional service providers, instead of providing street damnation efforts on their own, the motion encouraged to groups to trade street donation efforts for coordinating with licensed providers and or support sanctioned organizations, through the dnc like St joseph's.

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Jody Mortimer: Center bread and roses.

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Vicki Halliday: It has been identified, that the motion needs updating their for the homeless committee submits the following, whereas.

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Vicki Halliday: homeless professional homeless service organization city officials and law enforcement agree that street detonations of food, clothing and other items often do more harm than good by.

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Vicki Halliday: disrupting the process of helping people connect with professional homeless support services i'm creating dangerous and unclean environment for both the House and i'm house that's be a trash.

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Vicki Halliday: costing the city 10s of thousands of dollars a year in street cleanup and trash collection costs bring the resulting waste.

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Vicki Halliday: Be it resolved that the dnc request aid from all city agencies listed to cite these providers for infractions and to direct them to schedule cooperate coordinate.

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Vicki Halliday: homeless support activities with the professional and city sanction homeless service providers.

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Vicki Halliday: On that would go to Lhasa St Joseph sanitation parking rack lapd CD 11 county supervisor Department of Health um I do want to add that I know that a number.

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Vicki Halliday: of organizations and we have one here Lisa redmond tonight i'm with her organization, I know that Lisa works with Lhasa on and with St Joseph so she understands that connection, what we're hoping to avoid are some scenarios down the beach where people just kind of randomly feed on.

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Vicki Halliday: Their their good hearted people.

847
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Vicki Halliday: But they are not helping.

848
01:36:43.560 --> 01:36:55.320
Vicki Halliday: These people reach the outreach workers they really need to be talking with um that's an issue of Brian old, who hasn't gotten here yet he's at another meeting.

849
01:36:55.920 --> 01:37:03.360
Vicki Halliday: reminded me that this was also a big issue downtown on skid row, and one of their suggestions and I don't believe it ever came to pass.

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Vicki Halliday: Was that each organization tend to wrap their food in a certain color rapper so everybody knew where that trash came from downtown it became a huge issue um some organizations that come out are great, there is the group that comes to the boardwalk.

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Vicki Halliday: With a lot of produce and I don't know how on earth, they think that people in the boardwalk are going to be able to.

852
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Vicki Halliday: Raw potatoes, because they leave them there and then they run on the beach and seagulls and the rats come in um it that's a problem for everyone, so that was the genesis of this motion on.

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Vicki Halliday: And that's it Thank you.

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frank murphy: Alright, so you're making the motion i'll second that.

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frank murphy: yeah and we'll go to public comment.

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Vicki Halliday: First up a Mike wrap get a hold on here Mike.

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frank murphy: Mike.

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Mike.

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Michael Rapkin: Good evening nice to see you frank vicki and Liz and the other two gentlemen I haven't met before I served on the committee, a year ago, on.

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Michael Rapkin: vicki i'm so happy you're on this committee, because you see so much both sides of the picture for the House and the House and you have the empathy that's needed.

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Michael Rapkin: To take care of the human tragedy we we have with this homeless situation i'm on the phone tonight, because I want to speak to your emotion, I agree totally that the groups that are providing foods food coordinate their efforts with licensed providers such as sentient Center.

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Michael Rapkin: And that will help the unhealthy people get to.

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Michael Rapkin: services.

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Michael Rapkin: But I also think of several weeks ago I rode my bicycle on a Sunday and there must have been about 4040 people in line to be handed out food at an organization.

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Michael Rapkin: That has handed out food for 810 11 years by a South Bay church organization, at the end of rose avenue on the beach in the parking lot.

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Michael Rapkin: And so.

867
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Michael Rapkin: I liked the motion but I seek to amended.

868
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Michael Rapkin: And the reason I want to amend it.

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Michael Rapkin: Is that people at St Joseph i'm very confident with saying that they want these people to to want to encourage these.

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Michael Rapkin: providers to collaborate with St Joseph and others but St Joseph would not want these people to be punished.

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Michael Rapkin: In their heart and their conscience by handing out the food, and so what I seek to revise your hometown is to prevent these providers from receiving sanctions, and so it could be sippy said that it be it resolved.

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Michael Rapkin: That the dnc request aid from all city agencies.

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Michael Rapkin: To direct providers to schedule cooperate and coordinate homeless support activities with the professional and city sanction homeless service providers, in other words, I like your emotion, it makes sense, but I would eliminate the words listed too soon to cite these providers for infractions.

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Vicki Halliday: Okay.

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Michael Rapkin: With infractions if you have.

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Michael Rapkin: Whether it's the lapd or some responsible social service provider comes up to a person and says.

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Michael Rapkin: you're not coordinating with the sjc or whoever else the provider is, would you please do so because we all have a common ground and that's to get these analysis people that need the food.

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Michael Rapkin: into housing and we can do that best so that that's that's my issue with that, and thank you for your emotion.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you, my.

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Vicki Halliday: Next APP is Nikki and jelly.

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Nick Antonicello: yeah I think regarding the motion giving out food that has to be prepared on the beaches of that is for variety of reasons, as you pointed out.

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Nick Antonicello: But I do think it's a good idea when they're serving a breakfast or a lunch or dinner that's already prepared person can eat it and and disposed of properly, I think that that makes sense.

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Nick Antonicello: If the beach is a place where people are congregating for food and one thing I want to commit to address.

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Nick Antonicello: is just the billions of dollars in tax dollars that are being wasted and squandered literally every day and it's never addressed it just isn't I mean this is kind of this motion, while it's a good idea it's like picking up the pennies.

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Nick Antonicello: On the.

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Nick Antonicello: dollars are flying over your head and that's what you really need to think about in a bigger picture.

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Nick Antonicello: of why homelessness is what it is because these so called professional service providers are failures what they're doing does not work.

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Nick Antonicello: And nobody seems to want to address that if you say that somehow you're against the homeless that's the disgusting part of this issue, the money is there nothing changes, all it does is subsidize a system that doesn't work.

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Nick Antonicello: Right.

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Vicki Halliday: Okay, thanks, Nick i'm next step.

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Vicki Halliday: On here.

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frank murphy: Are you saying biggie.

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frank murphy: let's cut off the the public comment after holly.

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frank murphy: tells yes.

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Vicki Halliday: After holly Tilson um.

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Vicki Halliday: let's see here.

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Vicki Halliday: Alex next up, please, thank you.

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Alex: hi I definitely support the motion I think anything that leads to more coordination with you know the existing methods there to get people into long term, you know support is all for the best so I definitely support this machine.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you Alex.

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Vicki Halliday: Next up Lisa redmond.

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Vicki Halliday: Here we go.

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Lisa Redmond: hi good evening up, I actually have some problems with this motion.

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Lisa Redmond: Much like what Mike rabkin was saying about citing people.

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Lisa Redmond: That is problematic for me.

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Lisa Redmond: Because people are out there, doing things out of the goodness of their own heart or for whatever reasons.

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Lisa Redmond: I think it was about three or four years ago that the 11th circuit Court of Appeals said that it is an expressive motion.

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Lisa Redmond: Of the first amendment for people to distribute food so it's not illegal by any means for people to do that.

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Lisa Redmond: I think the only way you could cite people as if we got the health department out there to guarantee that was prepared in a commercial kitchen and they have proper food permits and all of that which I do.

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Lisa Redmond: Because I didn't want any problems like that, but.

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Lisa Redmond: You know, also there's also a problem that service providers, like St Joseph Center as much as you would want people to coordinate.

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Lisa Redmond: They aren't they don't have an open phone line of somebody that you can call and talk to.

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Lisa Redmond: and say well gosh if you guys aren't serving on Sundays how about I do Sundays oh you already served on Sundays Okay, then what days, do you not server How would people know to coordinate with people like that um.

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Lisa Redmond: And yeah people are hungry, you know I know all of us are probably hungry more than once a day and not on holidays and weekends and for the two weeks that.

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Lisa Redmond: The St Joseph Center bread and roses is closed over the holidays, so you know there's a lot of considerations like that and food is a right it shouldn't be a quid pro quo situation to get services.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you Lisa.

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Lisa Redmond: Thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: Next up Ellen Ellen.

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Helen Fallon: um yeah i'm still trying to get over the idea that someone thinks it's great to handle raw potatoes I just don't understand on.

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Jody Mortimer: This like.

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Helen Fallon: where's the critical thinking here.

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Helen Fallon: I think there ought to be sanctions, but maybe before you do that, since we're really probably talking about at least I understand it there's one major violator here on ocean front walk who brings in a lot of people and generates a lot of trash.

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Helen Fallon: Why are their guidelines that can't just go down there and hand out whatever you want, and you better be picking up your trash I mean, why are we as a Community, having people come in and.

923
01:47:13.380 --> 01:47:26.880
Helen Fallon: Just just in the name of being good hearted leave a whole mountain of trash for the Community to clean up this doesn't make sense and instead of a more such a global kind of.

924
01:47:27.660 --> 01:47:37.260
Helen Fallon: Motion, why are we addressing the specific offenders and saying there's some Community guidelines, please follow them if you don't we're going to be.

925
01:47:37.860 --> 01:47:50.070
Helen Fallon: complaining endlessly to every city service, we can think of, to stop you from coming down here because, being a do gooder it doesn't mean you get to generate problems for everybody else it's nonsense.

926
01:47:50.550 --> 01:47:58.710
Helen Fallon: So I would tighten up the motion with a set of guidelines of what we expect people to do, I personally don't think people should be handing out food on ocean for a walk.

927
01:47:59.040 --> 01:48:10.530
Helen Fallon: Especially if they're bringing in lots of people are leaving lots of trash now they ruined it for everybody and we don't need seagulls and rats and all these other things are generated when there's trash all over the place.

928
01:48:11.070 --> 01:48:18.510
Helen Fallon: or beach needs to stay clean and we don't know that crap flowing into the ocean so tighten it up have some guidelines, thank you.

929
01:48:18.960 --> 01:48:19.680
Vicki Halliday: Thank you Helen.

930
01:48:20.820 --> 01:48:22.740
Vicki Halliday: Ah, le been.

931
01:48:24.870 --> 01:48:26.820
Alley Bean: I am I.

932
01:48:27.960 --> 01:48:39.570
Alley Bean: i'm not i'm not sure what other word vicki you could use other than citing because I mean I understand what what Michael saying about the word citing as if it's.

933
01:48:40.200 --> 01:48:50.250
Alley Bean: something bad that they were you know because I know that the man handing out that food is a pastor and incredibly well meaning and everything it's just the consequences.

934
01:48:50.730 --> 01:48:56.760
Alley Bean: And I the thing Michael that I do know because I know the people that that live right there.

935
01:48:57.720 --> 01:49:07.830
Alley Bean: St joseph's has been trying to get him not to do that, though they are trying and unsuccessfully, so the problem is I don't know what one could do.

936
01:49:08.640 --> 01:49:21.300
Alley Bean: I don't know what citing means or doesn't mean or whatever, but the problem is, is that he's not adhering to St Joseph so I don't know how you, you know how you work that unless it's.

937
01:49:22.830 --> 01:49:31.680
Alley Bean: You know I don't I don't know how you'd orchestrate it, but I know the guy is incredibly well meeting it's just, it is the consequences that we're talking about.

938
01:49:32.010 --> 01:49:47.460
Alley Bean: Because it's actually not 40 people it's more it's over 100 people and, like an enormous amount of garbage in that alleyway where where my friend habits, to live and so it's like that's it's not only the garbage it's the the safety issue of.

939
01:49:49.020 --> 01:49:54.120
Alley Bean: what's going on in that alleyway and it's just it's kind of a big.

940
01:49:55.290 --> 01:50:04.020
Alley Bean: it's in an area where there's so much going on, anyway, because it's where the cadillac is and it's right by bridge housing and it's just sort of this big thoroughfare right now and it's just.

941
01:50:04.470 --> 01:50:19.050
Alley Bean: You know, they just spent so much money with that the whole encampment to home program and now it's bringing everybody back so it's it's that's why St joseph's is really asking them since they're running the cadillac to please not do that.

942
01:50:20.400 --> 01:50:27.480
Alley Bean: I don't I know there's a fantastic food giveaway in oakland and it's really well orchestrated I don't know if it's permitted I would imagine it is.

943
01:50:27.960 --> 01:50:33.390
Alley Bean: So if it's permitted then they're following guidelines, which is, I guess what Helens talking about my long way of saying.

944
01:50:33.810 --> 01:50:44.010
Alley Bean: I think it's fantastic that that people are doing things, for you know feeding people, but I, but I there's a way to do it that that's helping everybody.

945
01:50:44.640 --> 01:50:52.110
Alley Bean: You know that's doing it right so maybe we could find out what the guidelines and oakwood are because that was a fantastic and continues to be a fantastic Program.

946
01:50:54.270 --> 01:50:54.960
Vicki Halliday: Thank you molly.

947
01:50:55.920 --> 01:50:56.880
Alley Bean: For the motion to.

948
01:50:57.360 --> 01:50:57.780
Vicki Halliday: Thank you.

949
01:50:58.500 --> 01:51:03.750
Vicki Halliday: um let's see here out on any descente.

950
01:51:07.410 --> 01:51:22.260
-Annie Jump- Vicente: yeah Thank you um I i'm just going to say i'm not either for or against the solutions is for you guys, not for my office to weigh in on specifically, but I do want to ask a couple questions keep people thinking.

951
01:51:23.700 --> 01:51:27.300
-Annie Jump- Vicente: I do understand people's concerns with the language of citation.

952
01:51:28.680 --> 01:51:32.310
-Annie Jump- Vicente: You know I can see how that could be problematic in ways.

953
01:51:33.450 --> 01:51:35.550
-Annie Jump- Vicente: The word sanction does come to mind.

954
01:51:37.110 --> 01:51:38.460
-Annie Jump- Vicente: In those instances.

955
01:51:39.870 --> 01:51:43.380
-Annie Jump- Vicente: The other fear, I would like to highlight again is.

956
01:51:44.760 --> 01:51:59.460
-Annie Jump- Vicente: People having you know doing this from the kindness of their heart, and is it, it would it go directly to like hey if I just go to the shop across the street buy them food and then come back and give other people food is that.

957
01:52:00.180 --> 01:52:03.600
-Annie Jump- Vicente: Is that that would that fall under this motion and what i'd be cited.

958
01:52:05.820 --> 01:52:15.660
-Annie Jump- Vicente: You know it's it's it's very nuanced things like that, as well, I do understand for massive like food giveaways like if you're cooking food I know i've done that from time to time.

959
01:52:17.040 --> 01:52:23.970
-Annie Jump- Vicente: But typically I would make sure I bring a trash bag and have everybody throw their trash in the bag, so that I can haul it away as well.

960
01:52:26.190 --> 01:52:32.940
-Annie Jump- Vicente: You know, maybe you know, maybe even thinking about adopting some of that you know, again, these are just other things that people have already highlighted.

961
01:52:35.010 --> 01:52:36.030
-Annie Jump- Vicente: So yeah so.

962
01:52:37.290 --> 01:52:48.360
-Annie Jump- Vicente: Specific you know specific offenders, especially being in Venice, I mean you know you'll have you'll have random people constantly walk by not knowing what the emotion, or the Why is.

963
01:52:48.960 --> 01:52:54.960
-Annie Jump- Vicente: In relation to that, especially with all the tourists, so you might get a lot of citations are a lot of sanctions.

964
01:52:56.460 --> 01:53:00.180
-Annie Jump- Vicente: You know how enforceable is that, where is it going to be.

965
01:53:03.480 --> 01:53:06.480
Vicki Halliday: Thank you, our last speaker holly Tilson please.

966
01:53:10.200 --> 01:53:11.760
Holly Tilson: support your motion.

967
01:53:15.270 --> 01:53:21.540
Holly Tilson: Many people want to help the homeless we're paying for service providers to do.

968
01:53:23.610 --> 01:53:47.820
Holly Tilson: All these services, and this inhibits their ability to do the services Santa Monica used to have signs up don't give panhandlers money we have social services, to help them out, it just it just pushes the can it allows people to live.

969
01:53:48.660 --> 01:53:59.490
Holly Tilson: Like nobody wants them to live, we want them to be healthy their services available, and they need to coordinate with everybody.

970
01:54:00.750 --> 01:54:12.690
Holly Tilson: In unintended consequences, like the trash the rats the rotting food are unacceptable, I again, I support your motion.

971
01:54:14.580 --> 01:54:15.060
Vicki Halliday: Thank you.

972
01:54:16.770 --> 01:54:18.750
Vicki Halliday: Okay that's the end of it.

973
01:54:19.980 --> 01:54:20.040
Vicki Halliday: i'm.

974
01:54:21.450 --> 01:54:22.140
Vicki Halliday: frank.

975
01:54:22.740 --> 01:54:23.940
frank murphy: So we go to.

976
01:54:24.360 --> 01:54:25.770
Committee discussion.

977
01:54:29.340 --> 01:54:30.840
frank murphy: Anybody want to weigh in.

978
01:54:32.850 --> 01:54:33.300
frank murphy: part.

979
01:54:34.950 --> 01:54:42.570
clark brown: One for leaving in the site and infraction language reason is, I think that's necessary to give this resolution force.

980
01:54:43.260 --> 01:54:55.920
clark brown: i've read the chief moore's policy memorandum to his troops about issuing citations to the homeless that's very clear from that memo that citations are absolute last resort.

981
01:54:56.280 --> 01:55:03.150
clark brown: Nothing else's work, and I think the same thing would would happen here that responsible authorities would approach people.

982
01:55:03.540 --> 01:55:09.300
clark brown: Who are distributing food in violation of this resolution and talk to them and say look you got to get into compliance.

983
01:55:09.810 --> 01:55:16.140
clark brown: And if you don't eventually get into compliance is a possibility that we could issued you a sank a citation for an infraction.

984
01:55:16.560 --> 01:55:30.750
clark brown: I think that's what would happen as a practical matter, so I would leave this resolution alone, as far as the suggestion about guidelines and the guidelines are good point, but I think that's something that could be taken up later let's get this thing on the box.

985
01:55:52.710 --> 01:55:56.520
Elizabeth Wright: I don't think that the neighborhood Council.

986
01:55:57.900 --> 01:56:06.960
Elizabeth Wright: has the authority to contact the people that this is directed to I think everything has to go to the city councilman.

987
01:56:09.510 --> 01:56:11.400
Elizabeth Wright: And you can recommend that that.

988
01:56:12.780 --> 01:56:13.020
Elizabeth Wright: That.

989
01:56:14.820 --> 01:56:16.950
Vicki Halliday: sanitation and the health department.

990
01:56:17.790 --> 01:56:19.140
Vicki Halliday: Okay yeah.

991
01:56:20.700 --> 01:56:21.840
Elizabeth Wright: I said I didn't know.

992
01:56:22.500 --> 01:56:28.260
Vicki Halliday: We know i've been promotions didn't come to every single one of these other lists so.

993
01:56:28.320 --> 01:56:29.340
Vicki Halliday: Okay yeah.

994
01:56:30.510 --> 01:56:30.840
Elizabeth Wright: Okay.

995
01:56:33.510 --> 01:56:36.840
Elizabeth Wright: And it was pointed out by one of the.

996
01:56:38.370 --> 01:56:41.130
Elizabeth Wright: People commenting that.

997
01:56:42.360 --> 01:56:47.760
Elizabeth Wright: The service organizations don't necessarily have a designated person.

998
01:56:49.560 --> 01:56:51.300
Elizabeth Wright: To set up the coordination.

999
01:56:54.030 --> 01:56:55.470
Elizabeth Wright: And you know one.

1000
01:56:57.810 --> 01:57:09.600
Elizabeth Wright: yeah I know, but I would put that as as part of the thing, especially for for been to encourage them to establish coordination for for these.

1001
01:57:10.770 --> 01:57:13.020
Elizabeth Wright: Donations okay.

1002
01:57:30.180 --> 01:57:31.350
Elizabeth Wright: Is that making sense.

1003
01:57:32.370 --> 01:57:37.920
Vicki Halliday: yeah I think they've got to decide which organization.

1004
01:57:38.940 --> 01:57:47.610
Vicki Halliday: is going to be the person I mean I would assume that for here in Venice that it's Lhasa or at St joseph's one or the other.

1005
01:57:49.320 --> 01:57:49.770
Elizabeth Wright: Okay.

1006
01:57:50.160 --> 01:58:12.120
Vicki Halliday: You know that that I mean Lhasa seems to be around you know, maybe in more corners of Venice than St joseph's but I don't know um it's something I think for the city to figure out, I mean it's a good good way to tighten up some of the stuff that nobody seems to know about you know.

1007
01:58:13.200 --> 01:58:13.560
Elizabeth Wright: yeah.

1008
01:58:13.710 --> 01:58:21.210
Elizabeth Wright: cuz you can't really site people and say you should be coordinating with these organizations and they don't have anybody.

1009
01:58:23.730 --> 01:58:24.630
Elizabeth Wright: Trying to do that.

1010
01:58:25.170 --> 01:58:25.950
Elizabeth Wright: Right, you know.

1011
01:58:26.340 --> 01:58:26.670
Right.

1012
01:58:28.080 --> 01:58:35.130
Vicki Halliday: So they can, if they can do the circle project and get that together real quick and maybe they could get somebody as a point person for this.

1013
01:58:40.020 --> 01:58:40.410
frank murphy: and

1014
01:58:42.420 --> 01:59:06.450
Pat Raphael: It sounds to me like the thing, where we could be putting more energy towards is focusing on what bad outcomes look like and trying to deal with that, rather than having a top down type of approach where we're sending more work to St Joseph that doesn't seem to be.

1015
01:59:08.190 --> 01:59:15.480
Pat Raphael: Fulfilling the amount of work that they have now right so it's not like i'm seeing St Joseph was producing.

1016
01:59:16.680 --> 01:59:20.280
Pat Raphael: outcomes that would suggest they need more work.

1017
01:59:21.360 --> 01:59:40.020
Pat Raphael: So it sounds like this could be a situation where we are discouraging people that want to help when the help that's out already is it showing themselves to be up to the task right so it's not like.

1018
01:59:41.460 --> 01:59:46.920
Pat Raphael: The concern agencies like bahasa and St Joseph are are.

1019
01:59:48.300 --> 01:59:59.370
Pat Raphael: doing a a complete job in then these other people are supplementing in a way that is not helpful I think sometimes these people are coming.

1020
01:59:59.850 --> 02:00:08.550
Pat Raphael: In like I heard earlier there's a line around the block to receive what they have to offer right so when there's a problem where one in particular May.

1021
02:00:08.880 --> 02:00:16.890
Pat Raphael: be bringing produce or be giving something that is not useful to the population that they're that they're giving it to.

1022
02:00:17.610 --> 02:00:33.300
Pat Raphael: Essentially, unloading their trash because I used to see that happen with stale bread a lot, they would bring bill brandon donuts and things that like you know just cuz i'm hungry doesn't mean I want to eat your trash right, if you would see that's what.

1023
02:00:33.510 --> 02:00:34.380
Pat Raphael: Results right.

1024
02:00:34.590 --> 02:00:41.520
Pat Raphael: So I think we can fine tune our language, where we address that wow making.

1025
02:00:42.570 --> 02:00:53.550
Pat Raphael: US air towards freedom and and towards allowing people to to be moved by their heart because most people who have the heart of wanting to help.

1026
02:00:54.030 --> 02:01:09.000
Pat Raphael: They are also responsible with that help, while there might be some that want that helping them at the end of the day, you see their health is just unloading trash we can deal with the problems as they arise, while not having a posture of saying.

1027
02:01:10.980 --> 02:01:15.420
Pat Raphael: here's a barrier to entry as you're trying to help that's that's why I would.

1028
02:01:16.680 --> 02:01:17.880
Pat Raphael: vote against this motion.

1029
02:01:30.660 --> 02:01:34.050
frank murphy: Moving in behind pat on that I, I agree.

1030
02:01:36.180 --> 02:01:42.180
frank murphy: It seems to me that the professional city sanction homeless service providers.

1031
02:01:45.960 --> 02:01:48.960
frank murphy: there's got to be a way for these other.

1032
02:01:51.450 --> 02:02:07.200
frank murphy: home more creative fund by funded by different resources, etc, etc, can pitch in and help with this with the situation if everything has to run through a professional.

1033
02:02:07.710 --> 02:02:10.860
frank murphy: Through the current profession on city sanction.

1034
02:02:11.220 --> 02:02:12.960
frank murphy: homeless service providers.

1035
02:02:15.540 --> 02:02:16.890
frank murphy: But this.

1036
02:02:18.570 --> 02:02:20.280
frank murphy: This motion.

1037
02:02:21.480 --> 02:02:24.090
frank murphy: allows for that to be addressed.

1038
02:02:25.650 --> 02:02:31.320
frank murphy: So i'm I kind of want to get it out to to to.

1039
02:02:32.340 --> 02:02:34.140
frank murphy: Have it address so that.

1040
02:02:35.370 --> 02:02:44.070
frank murphy: folks we can establish some guidelines that would allow others to do it, irrespective of what the.

1041
02:02:45.180 --> 02:02:50.220
frank murphy: city sanctioned or professional or sees sanction homeless service providers, want to.

1042
02:02:51.270 --> 02:03:01.200
frank murphy: You know they have a vested interest in in things from a different point of view than others would have is what i'm trying to say.

1043
02:03:02.580 --> 02:03:04.710
Vicki Halliday: It I can I just say one thing like.

1044
02:03:04.740 --> 02:03:18.000
Vicki Halliday: Yes, what started a lot of this with me was last week I talked to on a grid down on the boardwalk that were handing out sandwiches in water and.

1045
02:03:18.690 --> 02:03:28.590
Vicki Halliday: Is there an older group on the woman who runs it said to me that she's very she said looked at the people who are standing in line they're all older.

1046
02:03:29.760 --> 02:03:30.570
Vicki Halliday: Are there women.

1047
02:03:31.800 --> 02:03:39.510
Vicki Halliday: And she said sense the big cleanup of the beach Lawson and St joe's rarely come back.

1048
02:03:40.440 --> 02:03:46.770
Vicki Halliday: And she said, especially the elderly amongst the people in this line cannot make it to bread and roses.

1049
02:03:47.340 --> 02:04:04.800
Vicki Halliday: They can't go that far, so outreach is completely missing them, she said that she talks to St Joe she had talked to them about it and, later on, I talked to Kristen who said she would put Lhasa in touch for that time period because they will run shuttles.

1050
02:04:05.910 --> 02:04:10.320
Vicki Halliday: From the beach to bread and roses, or the St joseph's and people if people are.

1051
02:04:11.370 --> 02:04:27.930
Vicki Halliday: incapable of walking so that's the kind of thing, even the one donation person was worried that these people were slipping through the cracks in an area that's been largely cleaned up because outreach just doesn't come back.

1052
02:04:29.610 --> 02:04:32.850
Vicki Halliday: So it also puts a little pressure.

1053
02:04:34.230 --> 02:04:35.820
Vicki Halliday: On outreach to keep going.

1054
02:04:40.830 --> 02:04:41.610
Vicki Halliday: yeah Clark.

1055
02:04:41.700 --> 02:04:49.470
clark brown: Clark was right as correct that only the City Council can determine when anyone will issue citations for infractions.

1056
02:04:50.130 --> 02:05:01.860
clark brown: So this is not an ordinance what it is it's an advisory to the city council to the city under Section 910 of the city charter as to what it ought to be doing, and I think it's a good first start.

1057
02:05:04.230 --> 02:05:06.090
clark brown: So I think we should we should adopt it.

1058
02:05:19.740 --> 02:05:20.190
All right.

1059
02:05:22.140 --> 02:05:23.220
frank murphy: let's go to a.

1060
02:05:24.210 --> 02:05:28.920
Pat Raphael: Little while to unmute myself just want to add, please.

1061
02:05:30.540 --> 02:05:30.840
Pat Raphael: Now.

1062
02:05:32.100 --> 02:05:43.830
Pat Raphael: Is there any way we can we can tighten it up just to communicate something to the effect that we, we want to encourage people who want to help.

1063
02:05:44.250 --> 02:06:03.000
Pat Raphael: To help right and then having that be the premise and then saying, as you want to help these are the best practices that we've we've agreed on, and if you're going to help let's try to function within these parameters, I think something to that.

1064
02:06:05.940 --> 02:06:06.810
Vicki Halliday: it's not our job.

1065
02:06:08.130 --> 02:06:10.050
Vicki Halliday: is more advisory.

1066
02:06:10.860 --> 02:06:10.980
It.

1067
02:06:13.230 --> 02:06:23.940
Pat Raphael: sounded it sounded like some of the same like it was a punitive discouragement to try to stop people from accessing help from.

1068
02:06:25.830 --> 02:06:26.340
Pat Raphael: I made it.

1069
02:06:27.180 --> 02:06:27.600
Vicki Halliday: I read.

1070
02:06:29.940 --> 02:06:31.920
Vicki Halliday: It was in no way to discourage.

1071
02:06:33.030 --> 02:06:36.120
Vicki Halliday: These donations, but did it needed to work in tandem.

1072
02:06:37.440 --> 02:06:42.120
Vicki Halliday: Not to just eat it, you know I you read the motion, it seemed like.

1073
02:06:42.750 --> 02:06:56.850
Pat Raphael: It was saying that if they're going to go to one outlet they're not going to go to another outlet so to help them go towards the outlet that is section let's dissuade people or discourage people from.

1074
02:06:58.470 --> 02:07:06.540
Pat Raphael: I don't know if that's that's what I heard, but perhaps I i'm i'm honing in on something that maybe you're not even saying.

1075
02:07:07.380 --> 02:07:19.020
Vicki Halliday: What we're trying to do is to get more outreach back to people and some of this stuff doesn't help that always if they can stay down on the beach and be fed.

1076
02:07:19.890 --> 02:07:31.260
Vicki Halliday: And not ever have to go to St joseph's and if St joseph's is not coming to the beach, then there needs to be something that works to get outreach back to these people.

1077
02:07:32.040 --> 02:07:44.070
Pat Raphael: Okay, so I wasn't crazy after all that was what we were suggesting that stop other private people in a free way to help so that they can go towards the help that is sanction I don't know.

1078
02:07:45.330 --> 02:07:45.660
Vicki Halliday: you're.

1079
02:07:45.690 --> 02:07:49.740
Vicki Halliday: doing the donations to work with St joseph's and with.

1080
02:07:49.740 --> 02:07:50.430
Lhasa.

1081
02:07:51.780 --> 02:08:03.960
Vicki Halliday: So Lhasa and St joseph's know they're down there, maybe the last lessons a wrap or St Joseph sins of REP when they know these people are going to be there, feeding people that's all.

1082
02:08:07.620 --> 02:08:07.860
Pat Raphael: Right.

1083
02:08:08.460 --> 02:08:09.660
Vicki Halliday: i'm gonna be quiet now.

1084
02:08:09.660 --> 02:08:10.500
Vicki Halliday: Because i'm done.

1085
02:08:22.830 --> 02:08:27.870
frank murphy: I see the you know the line that seems to be grabbing everybody up.

1086
02:08:29.760 --> 02:08:39.150
frank murphy: You know I just think that this has to be gotten out there, so that we can correct issues that are currently going on.

1087
02:08:40.890 --> 02:08:53.370
frank murphy: And it's not telling us how to correct that and we need to I think what path saying is, we need to be more proactive in how we correct that.

1088
02:08:54.480 --> 02:08:57.630
frank murphy: I think this motion here.

1089
02:08:59.370 --> 02:09:09.780
frank murphy: I would like to say that we put that through as it is, and then we can present another motion that's a little bit more specific as to technique.

1090
02:09:12.960 --> 02:09:16.110
frank murphy: You know, at a later date at the next meeting, or the meeting.

1091
02:09:17.610 --> 02:09:19.230
Vicki Halliday: Somebody else right.

1092
02:09:21.960 --> 02:09:22.290
Vicki Halliday: This is.

1093
02:09:23.310 --> 02:09:29.490
Vicki Halliday: In 2007 motionless past the city didn't do Dick about it so we're trying again.

1094
02:09:30.240 --> 02:09:32.340
frank murphy: yeah and that was passing.

1095
02:09:32.370 --> 02:09:35.640
7017.

1096
02:09:36.660 --> 02:09:41.400
frank murphy: So we need to you know reiterate it and then maybe follow up with.

1097
02:09:43.350 --> 02:09:47.610
frank murphy: Because there's all kinds of things that come to my mind, that would take.

1098
02:09:48.660 --> 02:09:57.840
frank murphy: You know I mean Pat, and I could probably sit down and ironed something out pretty quick, but it might take you know five hours, you know you know what i'm saying.

1099
02:09:58.290 --> 02:09:58.740
Vicki Halliday: I think let's.

1100
02:09:59.430 --> 02:10:01.230
frank murphy: come up with something pretty quick.

1101
02:10:01.260 --> 02:10:01.620
To.

1102
02:10:03.060 --> 02:10:09.990
frank murphy: Anyhow um, but I think getting the ball rolling is really important, just to just to.

1103
02:10:11.280 --> 02:10:13.440
frank murphy: bridge that bridge that.

1104
02:10:15.480 --> 02:10:16.470
frank murphy: bridge that gap.

1105
02:10:18.240 --> 02:10:22.110
frank murphy: So I would vote, I would say let's go to vote on this is anybody.

1106
02:10:23.340 --> 02:10:24.450
frank murphy: objecting to that.

1107
02:10:29.250 --> 02:10:31.320
frank murphy: All right, let's let's go to vote.

1108
02:10:33.120 --> 02:10:34.110
frank murphy: i'm.

1109
02:10:39.810 --> 02:10:40.260
frank murphy: pat.

1110
02:10:44.520 --> 02:10:45.960
Elizabeth Wright: Oh i'm sorry I.

1111
02:10:47.970 --> 02:10:48.810
Elizabeth Wright: meant to motion.

1112
02:10:50.910 --> 02:10:51.300
frank murphy: Oh.

1113
02:10:53.130 --> 02:10:54.450
frank murphy: vicki main demotion.

1114
02:10:56.070 --> 02:10:57.360
frank murphy: I think I second.

1115
02:10:57.360 --> 02:10:57.720
Vicki Halliday: Did.

1116
02:10:57.810 --> 02:10:59.730
frank murphy: You did, yes, I did yeah.

1117
02:10:59.760 --> 02:11:02.040
Elizabeth Wright: Thank you, sorry I fell down on the job.

1118
02:11:02.700 --> 02:11:02.970
No.

1119
02:11:04.500 --> 02:11:06.360
frank murphy: No problem okay pat sorry.

1120
02:11:08.580 --> 02:11:09.900
Pat Raphael: I vote no in this motion.

1121
02:11:11.190 --> 02:11:13.380
frank murphy: Okay Liz.

1122
02:11:14.160 --> 02:11:14.700
Yes.

1123
02:11:16.920 --> 02:11:17.460
frank murphy: vicki.

1124
02:11:17.790 --> 02:11:18.210
Yes.

1125
02:11:21.210 --> 02:11:21.780
frank murphy: Clark.

1126
02:11:22.020 --> 02:11:22.440
Yes.

1127
02:11:26.910 --> 02:11:27.960
frank murphy: frank, yes.

1128
02:11:32.910 --> 02:11:37.080
frank murphy: And nobody else has ever overwrite them in motion passes.

1129
02:11:38.280 --> 02:11:38.760
Elizabeth Wright: jodi.

1130
02:11:39.510 --> 02:11:40.650
frank murphy: jodi five to one.

1131
02:11:41.430 --> 02:11:42.390
Jody Mortimer: Oh God oh my.

1132
02:11:43.080 --> 02:11:44.160
frank murphy: God sorry man.

1133
02:11:44.580 --> 02:11:48.570
Jody Mortimer: that's Okay, am I lots of staying I just don't know enough about the history of this time.

1134
02:11:49.290 --> 02:11:49.950
Absolutely.

1135
02:11:50.970 --> 02:11:55.020
frank murphy: One abstain one No four yeses.

1136
02:12:06.150 --> 02:12:07.500
frank murphy: Alright we're now we move to.

1137
02:12:10.080 --> 02:12:13.830
frank murphy: Committee comments, not on items, not on the agenda.

1138
02:12:15.570 --> 02:12:16.530
frank murphy: Between the committee.

1139
02:12:20.760 --> 02:12:21.120
Pat Raphael: Can I.

1140
02:12:22.410 --> 02:12:25.020
Pat Raphael: Actually, I see clark's hands up maybe you could go for yeah.

1141
02:12:25.320 --> 02:12:25.710
mark.

1142
02:12:26.730 --> 02:12:32.880
clark brown: frank, I just want to confirm you're going to either tonight or tomorrow, send me the contact information for God.

1143
02:12:34.530 --> 02:12:37.410
frank murphy: yeah yeah yes, we can get him.

1144
02:12:39.180 --> 02:12:50.040
clark brown: Next, I want to confirm tell from my understanding of our conversation last night, that we will add to the agenda for the February 22 meeting.

1145
02:12:50.820 --> 02:13:02.610
clark brown: The draft letter from Jimmy rez coupon and the law, a to require them to produce any documents they have to show the FAA prohibits the city from using.

1146
02:13:03.180 --> 02:13:16.710
clark brown: parcels one and two and lacks for homeless shelter require them to admit such documents don't exist i've sent you and Jim copies of the letter and I just would like to have it on the agenda for the February 22 medium for discussion.

1147
02:13:17.670 --> 02:13:25.590
frank murphy: I haven't made any decision on that at this point, but yeah I mean will will will take it up this month and she went ran.

1148
02:13:26.010 --> 02:13:30.510
clark brown: me see where we're at in terms of putting it on the agenda or passing it.

1149
02:13:32.280 --> 02:13:46.470
frank murphy: Will why we haven't put it on the agenda you know I mean we still need to put it on the agenda, I mean it doesn't need to be agenda is through us in order to get to the to the board, so I mean you know there's other methods to get it to the board.

1150
02:13:46.530 --> 02:13:49.800
clark brown: And something like this, I think the board would definitely require.

1151
02:13:51.690 --> 02:13:52.230
clark brown: To go to.

1152
02:13:53.820 --> 02:13:55.380
clark brown: The homelessness Committee, first, I mean.

1153
02:13:55.770 --> 02:14:02.580
frank murphy: You can put you can put a you can have signatures, to put it on the board it doesn't have to.

1154
02:14:03.480 --> 02:14:07.230
clark brown: It takes a petition with 60 signatures and.

1155
02:14:07.620 --> 02:14:16.260
clark brown: With respect to the memo to bond and we went through this and the board add COM send it back to the homelessness committee for consideration.

1156
02:14:16.890 --> 02:14:25.680
clark brown: So, since this is a is a component of the issue of whether these lacks parcels ought to be used for homelessness housing.

1157
02:14:26.010 --> 02:14:41.370
clark brown: I think it should be considered first at the homelessness Committee I think it's very clear based on our experience with the bottom memo that that's what the board would require, so I again ask that we calendar this that we put this on the agenda.

1158
02:14:41.670 --> 02:14:44.430
frank murphy: For the federal I will i'm not going to make that decision at this.

1159
02:14:44.430 --> 02:14:44.820
point.

1160
02:14:46.140 --> 02:14:47.910
clark brown: Can I ask, when you will make the decision.

1161
02:14:49.860 --> 02:14:51.060
frank murphy: When I do i'll let you know.

1162
02:14:55.440 --> 02:14:57.570
clark brown: Is it an item for further discussion between us.

1163
02:14:58.350 --> 02:14:58.830
frank murphy: Of course.

1164
02:15:01.110 --> 02:15:05.250
frank murphy: Clark we're we're always going to be talking, believe me, it's not going to go away.

1165
02:15:06.480 --> 02:15:12.840
clark brown: I can I respond to some of these comments that Helen fallon and others made about the LACs parcels.

1166
02:15:14.880 --> 02:15:19.080
frank murphy: um yes, you can respond to that you know.

1167
02:15:19.860 --> 02:15:34.470
clark brown: That the thrust of the comments were that the memo to Boston which the board passed last month, was a mistake, because of the issue of the LACs parcels I think that was the thrust of Helens comments and.

1168
02:15:35.460 --> 02:15:44.670
clark brown: The thrust of La beans comments as well, and maybe someone else, so I I was asked to respond to those and it seems to me, this is the appropriate time to do it.

1169
02:15:47.190 --> 02:15:47.400
clark brown: yeah.

1170
02:15:49.050 --> 02:15:50.340
frank murphy: yeah okay.

1171
02:15:51.360 --> 02:16:00.720
clark brown: You know I recognize that people have reservations about the memo define because of its discussion about the the LACs parcels.

1172
02:16:01.380 --> 02:16:12.510
clark brown: But I think it's important to keep in mind that, due to the Boise case there is no way to move the encampments and the arby's unless there is real estate to move them to.

1173
02:16:13.680 --> 02:16:24.150
clark brown: Cynthia sweats comments I think they clear, and I think jodi's comments may have made clear as well that there are simply no beds in CD 11.

1174
02:16:24.630 --> 02:16:32.880
clark brown: there's no place to move the homelessness homeless population to other than these two parcels out of La X.

1175
02:16:33.690 --> 02:16:47.310
clark brown: which already have infrastructure for water, electricity, gas sewer and are big enough to accommodate all of the homeless and kamins an rv in Venice and the rest of CD 11 at the last.

1176
02:16:49.080 --> 02:17:08.520
clark brown: homeless committee meeting Brian off asked one of the panelists who had an art moved out of an rv and he said that he would be happy to without blacks parcels anything commute into Venice now there are some very significant issues regarding these lacks parcels.

1177
02:17:09.660 --> 02:17:22.170
clark brown: We are just at the beginning there's the issue of whether the FAA with bar the use of these parcels for homeless housing that hasn't been resolved this this issue of airplane airplane noise, whether the.

1178
02:17:23.790 --> 02:17:30.660
clark brown: airplane noise which is great enough that would be harmful for the people living on these proposals we don't have the answer to that yet.

1179
02:17:31.140 --> 02:17:45.090
clark brown: And then there's the issue of whether they are a threat to security, to the people in in in westchester that to hasn't been investigated and it's a difficult issue, it turns out that the big parcel process one.

1180
02:17:45.720 --> 02:17:54.120
clark brown: is separated from their subdivisions, to the north, by a 30 foot high brick wall and six foot gates so.

1181
02:17:54.750 --> 02:18:02.970
clark brown: Whether it in fact is, it is a threat to the security in in westchester is something that has to be analyzed we don't have answers to these questions, yet.

1182
02:18:03.570 --> 02:18:17.190
clark brown: But I think we owe it to the homeless in Venice and all the people who live in Venice and in westchester but carefully analyze the facts and the issues regarding the LACs parcels and we haven't done that yet.

1183
02:18:18.570 --> 02:18:29.040
clark brown: But my memo to Boston is a simply a first step, the fact that westchester opposes the LACs parcels for temporary homeless shelter is not determinative.

1184
02:18:29.490 --> 02:18:38.280
clark brown: The LACs parcels do not belong to westchester any more than the beach belongs to Venice, both are public real estate which belong to all of us.

1185
02:18:39.030 --> 02:18:48.600
clark brown: All public projects generate strong opposition, all of them doesn't happen without strong opposition and the last parcels are simply no different.

1186
02:18:49.140 --> 02:18:57.090
clark brown: We simply have to look at all the facts and the parties have to reach a conclusion based on those facts and the parties are not just westchester.

1187
02:18:57.600 --> 02:19:14.070
clark brown: And not just that they're also westchester so let's start looking at the facts and the starting point is whether the FAA ours, the city from using the LACs parcels for homeless, shelter, the botton memo is a simply a first step in that investigation.

1188
02:19:15.360 --> 02:19:15.960
frank murphy: Okay.

1189
02:19:17.340 --> 02:19:17.700
Vicki Halliday: well.

1190
02:19:17.760 --> 02:19:25.290
Vicki Halliday: You know that first step really chapped our neighbors in westchester because they've investigated they've looked at these parcels.

1191
02:19:25.800 --> 02:19:40.290
Vicki Halliday: And it's the one that's holding it up that everybody's upset about is the personal one across from visitation school they live there, they know the area they see what what could be what could happen, and they don't want it.

1192
02:19:41.250 --> 02:19:57.210
Vicki Halliday: It would be just like if they put through emotion that said they thought the Western Westminster senior Center was great as a detox rehab Center and that's a classroom at school and we wouldn't put up with it, we would be yelling and screaming.

1193
02:19:57.690 --> 02:20:13.380
clark brown: you're missing the point that the LACs parcels do not belong to westchester they want to everyone on the city, just like the Westminster senior Center belongs to everyone in the city, just like the Venice beach does don't be afraid of facts.

1194
02:20:13.950 --> 02:20:16.410
Vicki Halliday: And facts i'm afraid.

1195
02:20:16.470 --> 02:20:18.390
Vicki Halliday: Excuse me, we had to live together.

1196
02:20:18.450 --> 02:20:19.080
clark brown: Let me finish.

1197
02:20:20.760 --> 02:20:30.270
clark brown: The fact that we did an investigation of an issue that has many different parts to it does not mean that we're going to reach a specific conclusion.

1198
02:20:34.290 --> 02:20:35.460
clark brown: Here we've got to be adults about.

1199
02:20:35.460 --> 02:20:45.450
frank murphy: What i'm what i'm what I heard Helen and allie also referring to was.

1200
02:20:46.470 --> 02:20:53.580
frank murphy: The concept that we're balkanized ourselves we're we're putting ourselves.

1201
02:20:54.720 --> 02:20:55.650
frank murphy: You know we're going to.

1202
02:20:57.030 --> 02:21:04.980
frank murphy: create a split that doesn't have to be there and I think that by jamming like like.

1203
02:21:07.170 --> 02:21:13.770
frank murphy: Well, my just I understand your I understand your frustration about getting.

1204
02:21:13.890 --> 02:21:30.180
frank murphy: More getting sites that somebody has to step out there and define some sites, you know i'd love it if it was my bottom that did that, but you know we're going to get what we get.

1205
02:21:30.600 --> 02:21:30.990
clark brown: From the.

1206
02:21:31.740 --> 02:21:33.300
frank murphy: break for probably am.

1207
02:21:33.810 --> 02:21:36.390
frank murphy: Wait a minute, you know, let me speak.

1208
02:21:36.930 --> 02:21:49.350
frank murphy: Sorry, so that's a that's an issue that has to be respected and i'm going to have to say hey look, you know Clark, we gotta respect that position.

1209
02:21:50.490 --> 02:22:08.640
frank murphy: You know I mean Helens hits it right on the head, I mean you know we've got to respect that somehow someway we've got 440 something sites available in district 11 they represent some 700 goddamn acres we've got to.

1210
02:22:10.500 --> 02:22:20.040
frank murphy: designate something and we've got to come to a consensus on it, I understand you saying we got to push it right now but i'm not i'm not.

1211
02:22:21.120 --> 02:22:21.660
frank murphy: i'm not.

1212
02:22:23.550 --> 02:22:23.970
frank murphy: You know.

1213
02:22:24.600 --> 02:22:25.410
Pat Raphael: So so what's.

1214
02:22:25.920 --> 02:22:26.130
My.

1215
02:22:28.110 --> 02:22:31.590
Pat Raphael: idea of the motion, though, that the.

1216
02:22:32.820 --> 02:22:33.300
Pat Raphael: The.

1217
02:22:34.620 --> 02:22:51.390
Pat Raphael: ball is set in motion so that we can look at the sites and see which ones are best right so couldn't we just let it go forward and then just put that site as a lower priority because of its.

1218
02:22:52.080 --> 02:23:10.830
Pat Raphael: Other uses such as the school, but I wanted to back up and say that the whole premise of all of this kind of smacks of it's a threat it's something scary oh my God homeless people are coming, and I feel like that's why it's important for us to have these these.

1219
02:23:11.910 --> 02:23:19.260
Pat Raphael: opportunities to have folks like Eric and tad and rick and I hope, somebody would had a chance to come so that.

1220
02:23:19.620 --> 02:23:28.020
Pat Raphael: They can be more humanized It can be seen as people just trying to make it trying to find a place to belong in in everywhere you're trying to.

1221
02:23:28.350 --> 02:23:38.970
Pat Raphael: land on a branch there's little Spikes in people saying get out here, you can't be here because you know you're strictly for your own list so so I I feel like once again.

1222
02:23:40.290 --> 02:23:52.470
Pat Raphael: that's where the that's where the the the ideas are in it's not it's not looking to to see where we can make room, but where we can exclude.

1223
02:23:55.170 --> 02:23:56.130
writers favorite.

1224
02:23:58.500 --> 02:23:58.770
frank murphy: card.

1225
02:24:00.240 --> 02:24:08.220
clark brown: With respect to these locks that that you've investigated, I did do an investigation of them and they're just simply not suitable and I believe.

1226
02:24:08.640 --> 02:24:15.300
frank murphy: I beg to differ with you, I mean you know I know that you have that you have any very.

1227
02:24:19.290 --> 02:24:19.920
frank murphy: That you're.

1228
02:24:22.650 --> 02:24:25.560
frank murphy: That you know exactly what you're talking.

1229
02:24:27.270 --> 02:24:28.620
frank murphy: I beg to differ with you.

1230
02:24:28.830 --> 02:24:46.530
frank murphy: Okay, so I you know i'm going to sit back and say okay fine you know clerk do what you presented as you got to present to what you've got to do, but you know I mean i've looked into these and we can look into them again later.

1231
02:24:47.610 --> 02:24:49.770
frank murphy: But I understand that you say that that.

1232
02:24:49.800 --> 02:24:55.740
frank murphy: None of that none, no other lot will work in all of district 11 what a crock a cramp.

1233
02:24:56.460 --> 02:24:57.180
clark brown: What I said.

1234
02:24:57.540 --> 02:24:58.620
clark brown: What I said was.

1235
02:24:58.680 --> 02:25:06.660
clark brown: What I said was I I didn't review it was my conclusion that that they were not suitable that I could be wrong, I could be wrong.

1236
02:25:07.080 --> 02:25:16.800
clark brown: Just as I am, for doing a full investigation with respect to be said to watch an la X, I am also for doing a full thorough investigation.

1237
02:25:17.370 --> 02:25:34.560
clark brown: Regarding the watch that you identified and your paper, what I am interested in doing is is trying to find real estate, to which we can move these homeless, a campus because we can't get rid of them unless we've got a place to move them to and.

1238
02:25:35.850 --> 02:25:47.850
clark brown: I did send you my my memo and I am more than happy to go over the memo with you in detail and get your thoughts, if there are other watch i'm all for it.

1239
02:25:49.470 --> 02:25:56.850
clark brown: i'm all for it all we're talking about doing is looking at this issue of real estate with an open mind.

1240
02:25:57.630 --> 02:25:59.160
cuz very parcels.

1241
02:26:01.170 --> 02:26:01.350
yeah.

1242
02:26:03.210 --> 02:26:05.790
frank murphy: i'm i'm i'm not on your Nan.

1243
02:26:05.970 --> 02:26:10.110
clark brown: And I like previously second my memo and i'll send it again to you tomorrow morning.

1244
02:26:11.160 --> 02:26:12.090
clark brown: And I could be wrong.

1245
02:26:14.100 --> 02:26:18.210
clark brown: I could be wrong, and if there are other parcels i'm all for it.

1246
02:26:21.570 --> 02:26:24.990
frank murphy: Any other any other items you guys want to bring up.

1247
02:26:31.440 --> 02:26:31.680
Elizabeth Wright: Oh.

1248
02:26:32.220 --> 02:26:32.700
frank murphy: i'm sorry.

1249
02:26:33.690 --> 02:26:35.220
Elizabeth Wright: Just just a quick comment.

1250
02:26:36.540 --> 02:26:43.620
Elizabeth Wright: What we have been doing in the past and for future reference, I think we should keep in mind that.

1251
02:26:45.150 --> 02:26:48.090
Elizabeth Wright: All of the work really should be done in the Committee.

1252
02:26:49.590 --> 02:27:01.650
Elizabeth Wright: And what is presented to the Board should be okay, we have investigated all this and we've analyzed it six ways from Sunday, and this is our recommendation of the best way to go.

1253
02:27:01.890 --> 02:27:02.580
clark brown: Absolutely right.

1254
02:27:03.090 --> 02:27:08.970
Elizabeth Wright: Instead of sending something complex to the board expecting them to figure it out.

1255
02:27:10.110 --> 02:27:11.610
Elizabeth Wright: Okay, so just for future.

1256
02:27:14.100 --> 02:27:15.120
frank murphy: Point well taken.

1257
02:27:16.050 --> 02:27:18.210
clark brown: But as an example, you know.

1258
02:27:19.440 --> 02:27:30.900
clark brown: frank and I have been talking about these lots I think the thing to do is for frank and I to get together, you know outside of the committee go over very thoroughly and then present something to the committee, the homeless and stability, not from the board.

1259
02:27:31.980 --> 02:27:38.880
clark brown: And I was we do our homework, we presented the committee it's debated in the Committee, and then we decide where to go from there.

1260
02:27:39.720 --> 02:27:46.290
Pat Raphael: Would we all have access to the source material for which you are narrowing it down.

1261
02:27:46.410 --> 02:27:47.400
clark brown: yeah frank did.

1262
02:27:47.610 --> 02:27:50.130
frank murphy: You are you are you already having that.

1263
02:27:51.570 --> 02:27:51.960
clark brown: practice.

1264
02:27:53.280 --> 02:27:56.700
clark brown: Right to the paper study that's about what 15 pages 20 pages.

1265
02:27:57.420 --> 02:28:08.820
frank murphy: yeah yeah it's already posted on the homeless it's part of the attachments I can get you a truncated one, so that you can see it a little bit more clear.

1266
02:28:10.680 --> 02:28:14.520
frank murphy: Sometimes you have too much information on on something.

1267
02:28:15.390 --> 02:28:24.570
Pat Raphael: I do remember, we have the the urban alchemy that's the one you're talking about right the urban alchemy layout of all of the different.

1268
02:28:25.770 --> 02:28:26.730
Pat Raphael: properties and.

1269
02:28:27.030 --> 02:28:28.230
frank murphy: yeah yeah that was.

1270
02:28:28.530 --> 02:28:31.890
Pat Raphael: yeah that was that was already and I thought that's what.

1271
02:28:32.220 --> 02:28:51.030
Pat Raphael: that's the one that we all decided that we would send all of them to get consideration, not necessarily prioritizing and saying one is better than the other, and then now there's a a affected group that's close to it that's saying let's carve this one out right.

1272
02:28:51.360 --> 02:28:52.530
frank murphy: Well, what you know.

1273
02:28:52.620 --> 02:28:53.730
frank murphy: What you wind up with.

1274
02:28:53.820 --> 02:29:08.070
frank murphy: That is there's different criterion for for pulling up sites and and there's different ways to use sites, so you know that's what Clark, and I are both talking about.

1275
02:29:08.700 --> 02:29:17.730
frank murphy: And so you know you've got a whole smattering of sides some work one way some work another way that's that's that's.

1276
02:29:18.600 --> 02:29:28.950
frank murphy: that's where that and and and you have to be conscious of the political ramifications, because you know that's what's happening here with.

1277
02:29:29.490 --> 02:29:41.940
frank murphy: westchester I mean you know and rightfully so you know I don't know their situation like they know their situation like they don't know my situation down here for years.

1278
02:29:43.080 --> 02:29:46.770
frank murphy: So we there's all that you know that that.

1279
02:29:49.950 --> 02:30:06.030
frank murphy: That negotiation that has to go on, but it needs to be gotten on and I, and I applaud Clark on now because it's bringing it up it's getting it out there is getting it let's solve the problem, I agree with that 100%.

1280
02:30:06.510 --> 02:30:11.400
clark brown: Right that's correct it is on the site, because I got it from site, the whole thing is on the site.

1281
02:30:12.120 --> 02:30:13.020
clark brown: lincoln's there.

1282
02:30:13.800 --> 02:30:15.510
frank murphy: But that's okay.

1283
02:30:16.860 --> 02:30:23.220
frank murphy: You know i'm not proselytizing for my and you don't need to proselytize for years let's leave that to our next our next.

1284
02:30:24.240 --> 02:30:26.880
clark brown: book about your studies on the site that's where I got it.

1285
02:30:26.970 --> 02:30:28.560
frank murphy: yeah it's on there yeah.

1286
02:30:29.340 --> 02:30:30.090
clark brown: that's how I got it.

1287
02:30:31.440 --> 02:30:32.220
frank murphy: yeah did.

1288
02:30:32.400 --> 02:30:34.350
Elizabeth Wright: Did the county Board of health.

1289
02:30:35.670 --> 02:30:51.840
Elizabeth Wright: issue a Bulletin to probably lapd and others that the homeless, should not be asked to move from one homeless place to another place where they will be homeless, because the carbon.

1290
02:30:56.580 --> 02:30:59.340
Elizabeth Wright: that's what that that's why they they.

1291
02:31:01.080 --> 02:31:02.730
Elizabeth Wright: didn't clear out the.

1292
02:31:04.170 --> 02:31:06.240
Elizabeth Wright: encampment by the bridge housing.

1293
02:31:07.560 --> 02:31:09.030
Elizabeth Wright: The Board of health told them not to.

1294
02:31:13.380 --> 02:31:18.720
Vicki Halliday: Do beginning to there's some shifts being made now it's beginning to loosen up.

1295
02:31:20.400 --> 02:31:24.720
Vicki Halliday: But, but a lot of those code restrictions are still in effect.

1296
02:31:25.770 --> 02:31:26.220
Elizabeth Wright: yeah.

1297
02:31:26.820 --> 02:31:29.190
Vicki Halliday: I mean they did clean out West Chester park.

1298
02:31:31.260 --> 02:31:34.410
Elizabeth Wright: So, but that was because they could offer them a roof.

1299
02:31:35.520 --> 02:31:38.550
Vicki Halliday: yeah most of them took it there's some up here now, just like.

1300
02:31:39.090 --> 02:31:39.510
Elizabeth Wright: They work.

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02:31:40.980 --> 02:31:43.200
Elizabeth Wright: They had to be able to offer a route.

1302
02:31:44.640 --> 02:31:46.020
Vicki Halliday: um you know.

1303
02:31:48.240 --> 02:31:55.860
Vicki Halliday: Only because I know that when they cleaned up Venice and electric you know they cleaned out a lot of those encampments there, right here by me now.

1304
02:31:57.060 --> 02:31:59.310
Vicki Halliday: They just moved right up here into a parking lot.

1305
02:32:02.220 --> 02:32:05.820
Vicki Halliday: So you know they didn't they didn't offer them.

1306
02:32:07.680 --> 02:32:08.550
Jody Mortimer: The they I think they.

1307
02:32:08.580 --> 02:32:10.020
Elizabeth Wright: offer them or it was.

1308
02:32:10.110 --> 02:32:17.250
Jody Mortimer: Taken yeah wasn't taken that so dead like 200 taken and then the rest just decided to move on yeah okay.

1309
02:32:20.850 --> 02:32:21.480
Vicki Halliday: Thank God.

1310
02:32:24.120 --> 02:32:24.660
frank murphy: OK.

1311
02:32:26.130 --> 02:32:26.940
frank murphy: um.

1312
02:32:31.950 --> 02:32:35.010
frank murphy: Any other comments I think we're ready to.

1313
02:32:38.640 --> 02:32:39.630
adjourn yeah.

1314
02:32:40.650 --> 02:32:41.100
Elizabeth Wright: And then.

1315
02:32:41.610 --> 02:32:43.020
Elizabeth Wright: vicki on that motion.

1316
02:32:44.070 --> 02:32:44.520
Vicki Halliday: Excellent.

1317
02:32:44.550 --> 02:32:44.940
Elizabeth Wright: Thank you.

1318
02:32:46.080 --> 02:32:52.920
Pat Raphael: Okay, so I I I had something in mind that I wanted to bring to the table for consideration.

1319
02:32:54.720 --> 02:33:05.250
Pat Raphael: We do have the name of our committee, as it is officially listed as the homeless committee right, one of the things that I heard from CAP today.

1320
02:33:05.310 --> 02:33:06.690
frank murphy: would be homelessness.

1321
02:33:06.930 --> 02:33:09.330
Pat Raphael: homelessness guy yes, yes, yes, yes.

1322
02:33:11.610 --> 02:33:12.060
Pat Raphael: It.

1323
02:33:13.980 --> 02:33:23.970
Pat Raphael: was brought up today, and this is something that i've been given consideration to that there is a categorization in everybody's mind.

1324
02:33:25.350 --> 02:33:35.340
Pat Raphael: Concerning what all that means in the bag, is that that comes with is really hard to overcome right, I myself, I tried to.

1325
02:33:36.510 --> 02:33:57.120
Pat Raphael: Be more sensitive with my language, because I think in moving the language towards empathy that then brings our actions with it right, sometimes the language is just window dressing, but that could also be a good start, so I would like to host if we probably remain our committee.

1326
02:33:58.320 --> 02:33:59.040
Pat Raphael: The.

1327
02:34:00.180 --> 02:34:10.620
Pat Raphael: The Committee on house and its neighbors right, because I think framing it that way we'll put front and Center who we are talking about.

1328
02:34:11.100 --> 02:34:28.410
Pat Raphael: we're talking about neighbors neighbors just happened a lot of houses, but we'd like to we'd like to address it from that language of empathy rather than that that old language that's got all the baggage with it and, and I believe.

1329
02:34:30.360 --> 02:34:31.230
Pat Raphael: Sometimes.

1330
02:34:33.120 --> 02:34:44.460
Pat Raphael: brings action with that baggage as well, I don't know if this is something at this point, people would have to consider and then decide to vote on in in.

1331
02:34:45.540 --> 02:34:51.750
Pat Raphael: In in give that giving up something in that work up, but I could even write this up, if this would be.

1332
02:34:52.950 --> 02:34:59.370
Pat Raphael: Something that we could do discuss more in depth as to why this would be something worth doing.

1333
02:35:00.510 --> 02:35:05.130
Jody Mortimer: I know I know share uses the term enhanced.

1334
02:35:07.980 --> 02:35:08.190
Pat Raphael: Right.

1335
02:35:09.960 --> 02:35:10.590
Pat Raphael: Well, I.

1336
02:35:12.660 --> 02:35:18.390
Pat Raphael: I I I put all the discussion on the table, but I mean that's the proposal that I wanted to.

1337
02:35:20.040 --> 02:35:21.090
Pat Raphael: put together, I mean.

1338
02:35:26.910 --> 02:35:33.270
Vicki Halliday: The committee name was just changed when we started this new committee session.

1339
02:35:35.190 --> 02:35:41.430
Vicki Halliday: It was changed to homelessness i'm due to lisa's comments.

1340
02:35:42.210 --> 02:35:43.860
Pat Raphael: I don't think there was any.

1341
02:35:44.040 --> 02:35:58.200
Pat Raphael: Any discussion as to all of us, and then all of us, deciding to go in that direction so maybe if we're going to carry the sticker that the that that it becomes that maybe we could have a little input and how we frame it.

1342
02:35:58.620 --> 02:36:00.990
Vicki Halliday: Well, who said words change, I mean.

1343
02:36:01.020 --> 02:36:04.680
Vicki Halliday: words of the moment change monthly so.

1344
02:36:05.550 --> 02:36:07.650
Vicki Halliday: You know, we could be changing it every month.

1345
02:36:09.090 --> 02:36:15.090
Vicki Halliday: Because next month, that would be there would be another way that people would want it, I mean, I think.

1346
02:36:16.290 --> 02:36:30.030
Vicki Halliday: let's try and help the people who are on the streets, rather than worrying about the word so much, and I know that sometimes words can sting and they're not the exact ones, but if.

1347
02:36:30.990 --> 02:36:31.920
Vicki Halliday: If we're.

1348
02:36:32.100 --> 02:36:38.910
Vicki Halliday: Trying to do something let's let's keep that momentum deleon not worrying about the word so much.

1349
02:36:42.540 --> 02:36:50.340
frank murphy: I think we should do please take a look at the words but I don't think we should you know let's let's let's talk about it, Pat and.

1350
02:36:51.660 --> 02:36:56.070
frank murphy: You know let's let's hit it up again at the next meeting, I mean.

1351
02:36:58.410 --> 02:36:59.280
Vicki Halliday: Put emotion in.

1352
02:37:01.920 --> 02:37:02.250
Pat Raphael: either.

1353
02:37:03.420 --> 02:37:04.650
frank murphy: emotion, because.

1354
02:37:08.160 --> 02:37:08.460
frank murphy: hmm.

1355
02:37:09.510 --> 02:37:09.840
frank murphy: Sorry.

1356
02:37:10.890 --> 02:37:25.380
Pat Raphael: I was saying it doesn't have to be either or it could be both, and you know we could help the folks and be mindful of how we frame it in a language, because I think that starts where our heart is going as well.

1357
02:37:28.410 --> 02:37:28.950
frank murphy: taken.

1358
02:37:31.680 --> 02:37:32.520
frank murphy: Anything else.

1359
02:37:36.780 --> 02:37:44.070
frank murphy: Alright guys let's the German it's it's 925 do we have to vote on a German.

1360
02:37:44.280 --> 02:37:44.550
nope.

1361
02:37:45.630 --> 02:37:46.650
frank murphy: nope alright.

1362
02:37:46.740 --> 02:37:47.940
Elizabeth Wright: just say we're done.

1363
02:37:50.580 --> 02:37:51.390
frank murphy: we're done.

1364
02:37:51.750 --> 02:37:52.230
Very.

1365
02:37:54.270 --> 02:37:54.990
Jody Mortimer: very much.

1366
02:37:55.290 --> 02:37:55.440
Good.

1367
02:37:56.670 --> 02:37:58.800
frank murphy: Nice to get on board God.

1368
02:37:59.340 --> 02:38:00.330
frank murphy: This is gonna be.

1369
02:38:01.560 --> 02:38:01.680
Vicki Halliday: it's.

1370
02:38:01.860 --> 02:38:03.540
frank murphy: gonna be some fun.

1371
02:38:04.200 --> 02:38:12.630
Jody Mortimer: Yes, and frank, if I could not stop playing, we can actually explain like two minutes and how this all kind of putting in motions and all that kind of.

1372
02:38:12.750 --> 02:38:13.080
frank murphy: sure.

1373
02:38:13.410 --> 02:38:14.250
Jody Mortimer: Thank you yeah.

1374
02:38:15.390 --> 02:38:16.200
frank murphy: You got it man.

1375
02:38:17.490 --> 02:38:18.270
frank murphy: Okay guys.

1376
02:38:18.870 --> 02:38:20.310
frank murphy: good night everyone thanks so much.

1377
02:38:21.090 --> 02:38:23.220
frank murphy: Man attended, you know.

1378
02:38:24.630 --> 02:38:27.900
frank murphy: Thanks a lot, I really appreciate it take care guys.

1379
02:38:28.170 --> 02:38:34.230
Pat Raphael: yeah just double checking guys if we're not leaving ahead and check I see dawn's hands been up for a while.

1380
02:38:34.920 --> 02:38:35.370
Vicki Halliday: Well, we.

1381
02:38:35.610 --> 02:38:37.320
frank murphy: We don't we run past.

1382
02:38:37.530 --> 02:38:38.970
frank murphy: Public climate for a while.

1383
02:38:41.370 --> 02:38:41.790
frank murphy: And we're.

1384
02:38:43.050 --> 02:38:43.530
frank murphy: Sorry.

1385
02:38:49.020 --> 02:38:49.410
frank murphy: guys.