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james murez: Thank you.

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james murez: I am i'm.

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Daffodil Tyminski: hi there sorry took a little bit to get on.

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james murez: Can you hear me.

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james murez: Okay well i'm coming to you live from the Venice farmers market.

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Daffodil Tyminski: How is that going.

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james murez: Oh, I got you on the zoom is great I Scott, to promote you, though, to be a host because then I can drop off and you won't get disconnected you're not going to be a cup yeah host and i've already also promoted.

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james murez: i'm Yolanda.

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james murez: awesome so here.

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james murez: i'm here oh.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: hi Yolanda good morning.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Good morning, I know I owe you a phone call I just had an insanely busy week but we'll.

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Daffodil Tyminski: talk again.

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Daffodil Tyminski: don't worry about okay i'll give you a call.

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james murez: Once I make you host i'm not going to be hosted anymore you're gonna have everything on your own, and I got it out.

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Daffodil Tyminski: All right.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Hello.

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james murez: You should now be host to host as sharp as you host.

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Daffodil Tyminski: let's see here.

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james murez: hey I have not set share screen, but I can't do anything at this point, unless I start the whole thing over again.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, i'm host.

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james murez: Okay, great so i'm gonna hang up my phone and if you get cut off, you have to call me right back and then i'll have to figure out again how to redo it.

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Daffodil Tyminski: We should be okay.

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All right.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks.

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james murez: Oh, and when you have a dance, we have to talk about.

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james murez: Making the agenda for add.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah I did you see my email yesterday I was trying to get that going.

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james murez: yeah I don't well anyway i've already downloaded all of the agenda requests, but most of the committee's haven't met yet so we don't have that I mean I already put 90% of thing together.

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james murez: Well, I need, we need to go over it, because I have it in this new automation thing, and this will be a great way to test it.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay well when you're done at the market, give me a call.

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james murez: Okay, or over the weekend okay.

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james murez: around this weekend.

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james murez: Okay, all right bye for now.

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Daffodil Tyminski: hey by.

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james murez: Market yay.

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james murez: All of your neighbors are here.

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Oh, really.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Nice.

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james murez: Otherwise I don't know how to end.

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Daffodil Tyminski: It we should say.

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james murez: didn't do it almost.

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james murez: There we go okay bye bye bye.

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Daffodil Tyminski: All right, y'all it just you and me.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: Oh that's Okay, we can have fun.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I know.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I know.

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Daffodil Tyminski: um how was your thanksgiving.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: Oh, was it was nice we went to albuquerque new Mexico.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Oh lovely.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: Rain we took the train I didn't want to fly because of the problems that the airports are having.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: It was very nice we had on sweet to ourselves and the food was good it wasn't bad at all, and so we've been my sister in law live the lives there.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: Okay, my husband and his family settled coming from Lebanon and so they've been longtime residents of new Mexico my husband is a graduate of the.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: University of new Mexico there.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, I love, I was in New Mexico just before coven for Christmas.

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Daffodil Tyminski: anywhere, so it was really nice.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Beautiful state.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: It is, it is, but you know it is the what's beautiful is the.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: The mountain lion and all that but I prefer greenery in the ocean.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah well it's different right.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: Well it's 3000 feet above sea level.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: Very wrongly it's very dry and you know I come from a from an altitude of 9000 feet above sea level two, so I know what that's like.

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Daffodil Tyminski: wow.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: Where are you from Mexico City.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Oh okay.

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Daffodil Tyminski: um I love Mexico City it's one of my favorite places.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: it's a very it's a very interesting city, you know it's considered the the the closest to next to Paris outside of Argentina.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: yeah.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah definitely has that feel Oh, we have.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: We have a beautiful city.

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Daffodil Tyminski: um.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: Nobody else coming on yet.

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Daffodil Tyminski: No, I don't see anyone, let me.

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Daffodil Tyminski: let's see we've got a little while yet.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: Maybe.

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Daffodil Tyminski: 830 because the one guy seems like it doesn't like to get up early.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: Well, you know it's a five minutes to 830 maybe next time what we ought to do is have their telephone numbers, because I have a ground line Eric and I can start calling people as a matter of fact, I just call Rita.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: To see if she was going to join us, but she has to go somewhere in this morning, so she's getting ready.

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Daffodil Tyminski: um I am I email around this morning, the agenda with the link separately.

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Daffodil Tyminski: So.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Hopefully, most folks got that or at least will track their email, you know and the morning.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: On on you know i've been so busy because we just got back Tuesday and i've been so busy since yesterday and.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Oh yeah oh wait, we got one more person here.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: Oh good.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: keenly okay.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Who is not on the committee, but is maybe here, let me just.

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Daffodil Tyminski: See here.

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Daffodil Tyminski: hi Christine your viewer to up she just dropped off.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: Our our our meetings are being recorded through done by any chance.

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Daffodil Tyminski: um it's not like, probably at some level is through done, they are being recorded.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: Oh okay good.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah and then um.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I just got access to the website, to be able to post more stuff So the idea is going to be that we can just post the.

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Daffodil Tyminski: The recordings after we have needed.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: Well that's good because we go on record that's one.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah and then, if people that didn't go to the meeting want to know what happened, they can go back and.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: That way right, so they don't complain.

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Daffodil Tyminski: mm hmm.

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Daffodil Tyminski: um.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: You going to the lighting of the Venice.

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Daffodil Tyminski: think so.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Oh, I can come i'm gonna volunteer for the.

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Daffodil Tyminski: To man, the dnc table for a little bit.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: Oh, really.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: I should ask George that, if I can help out too well, I made a big grief and i'm I haven't received a call if he wants to use it or not big grief that was made by lydia grant who used to be a commissioner on done and she brought it over so i'm.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Nice.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: yeah it's a beautiful read, so people.

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Daffodil Tyminski: want to sit at the dnc table for a little bit, let me know.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: Oh, I would love to.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay i'll reach out to you, Sergio Good morning, so i'm so sorry, last week I either forgot to.

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Daffodil Tyminski: include you in the Group email or what happened, I was not last week, but last month, so if I did, I apologize, but welcome Thank you.

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Sergio Pérez: Good morning.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Good morning, are you from Philadelphia, by chance.

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Sergio Pérez: know the the shop owner I just found out his story during our last pop up that the owner originally from 1973.

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Sergio Pérez: had some kind of witness protection program and they moved him to Venice.

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Sergio Pérez: And started a cheese steak shot there, so I don't even know how the.

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Sergio Pérez: story came about, but like it's interesting it's fascinating that they had pretty much.

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Sergio Pérez: He had like a the story goes, he was under witness protection Program.

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Sergio Pérez: Back in the day and he moved from West philly to.

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Sergio Pérez: To Venice and he saw that there was no philly cheese sticks out here, and he started one.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Oh i'm from Philadelphia that's why i've always been curious about your place.

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Sergio Pérez: really what part of philly.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Well, I grew up right outside of Philadelphia New Jersey and then move I went to college in Philadelphia, and then lived in old today, for a long time.

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Sergio Pérez: All right, all right yeah I just want to fully in 2018 was my first time I really enjoyed it for history that it's so beautiful to cobblestones everything yeah.

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Daffodil Tyminski: it's a really great today really very nice to go up and around.

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Sergio Pérez: My favorite della Sandoz cheese steaks, I must say I went to pads and genome.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Did the full door good.

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Sergio Pérez: I did the whole thing I was there for four days and i'd like to eat cheese steaks like.

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Sergio Pérez: yeah hi today and, like just to get it get it all in there and I was like awesome I really enjoyed it now, I have to go back to the hobbies because I may have a hug.

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Daffodil Tyminski: that's a whole other thing yeah but phillies a big foodie city so there's lots of different types of cuisine and it's all really good and reasonably priced.

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Sergio Pérez: You had a bad philly cheesesteak roles like sushi rolls to.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah spring rolls yeah.

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Sergio Pérez: And then, people are telling me cross the bridge to cross the bridge, there are some good cheese steaks and Jersey and people in philly were telling me i'm like oh really like alright, so now I gotta go to Jersey for some cheese steaks.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Like closer to Philadelphia, then we are writing out a century city like I grew up really close but it's a different state because there it's right over the state line this the cities right on the border.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: Right um no quorum yet.

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Daffodil Tyminski: No Crimea it's just the three of us.

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Daffodil Tyminski: um, I will start texting some folks.

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Daffodil Tyminski: um.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Some people do not use.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Tax so wait hold on.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: oops well i'm logging in from my telephone it's much easier for me than it is on the computer.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah yeah it is, it is, can be sometimes easier.

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Daffodil Tyminski: So the media some attendees attendees vacation we're going to get there we're just waiting for a quorum.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: So the meeting is only going to last 30 minutes.

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Daffodil Tyminski: No, I mean the hope was we go an hour I just started a little later because there was a few folks that thought that we were starting to early.

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Daffodil Tyminski: and

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Yolanda Gonzalez: While we were starting.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: With George it very early in the morning I don't know what the problem was.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah i'm an early bird myself, but I understand how, not everyone is so no um.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: So what time do you want me at the at the neighborhood table.

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Daffodil Tyminski: To mom you know what can I text you because i'm not in charge of the schedule I don't even know what time i'm supposed to be there.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: Oh okay.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Or you can text you later i'll figure it out this morning, but I love your call.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: No listen I did it for 15 years we did it on Abbot kinney every Friday.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay awesome.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: yeah that's how we started Friday night, a first Friday nights thanks.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: To what's up to Mike.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah yeah I remember.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: We were sitting out there in the cold and everything, but we were there.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Oh, there we go all right here's chuck.

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Daffodil Tyminski: chuck i'm trying to promote you right now just takes a minute.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: Oh, my friend darryl.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Good morning, everyone.

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Daffodil Tyminski: um we probably can get started in a minute I just just give it one more minute or to you said Yolanda Rita is not joining.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: No she's not joining us yeah.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: But i'm supposed to inform her back what what our discussion was OK.

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Daffodil Tyminski: So think, then the only other person who will be getting now is William.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: With four, I think we have corum no.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah we should we do have warm, I just wanted to give.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: everyone a chance.

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Daffodil Tyminski: to jump on, but we have some folks in attendance, I also don't want to make them wait.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Though we have some applications for the rest of the spots on the neighborhood Committee which I think will fill out this month it's just people were traveling last month and couldn't make the meeting yeah um.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: You know, can I make a suggestion daffodil.

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Daffodil Tyminski: sure.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: For those people that are new to the neighborhood committee what we ought to have is the little pow pow so um we can direct them on how the neighborhood committees.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: should work and artwork based on the Charter and based on our bylaws it's very important how we how they know that you can accomplish things.

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Daffodil Tyminski: um.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: We can have a little.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: get together and maybe have.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: Somebody from done and.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: You know, direct the new commerce and of course i've been on the committee for so many years.

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Daffodil Tyminski: So the city has prevented us from meeting in person.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And it's all have a conversation with you offline because it's so complicated, but in spirit, I totally agree we'll figure out a way to do it right, we can't do it is we all would want to do it.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'm.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: Like yeah yeah yeah yeah.

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Daffodil Tyminski: So we have a bunch of folks waiting and I think we have enough I William i'm sure when he joins us i'll keep an eye on and we can promote him panel, but why don't we call the meeting to order.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay um I am going to share my screen here hold on a SEC.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Can everyone see this.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And just hold on one SEC because i've got a rejigger something here to get the.

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Daffodil Tyminski: This is much easier, with two people to be able to see who is coming to the meeting.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, why don't we call the meeting to order, it is 833 For those of you just attending you should see all of our names, my name is daffodil i'm the Chair, but everyone else's name should be popping up under their photo.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Taking roll call check rosen.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Rita we know, is not here, Sergio.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Sergio, let us know you're here, you have to unmute yourself.

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Daffodil Tyminski: we'll come back daryl okay.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Darrell just let us know if you're here, William.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, I don't think William is on cassie.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Here hi cassie welcome.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay Darrell I can see you're here so just raise your hand.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And I think we won't hand raised in the audience just sit tight we'll get to it in one second and we'll just have to do some administrative stuff first.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And so we you know I let's move on to item three, in terms of regular meeting time.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I just wanted to raise a couple points on this.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I wanted to have this on Friday mornings that seemed to work for folks and when I was discussing it.

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Daffodil Tyminski: informally, and then, of course, last month, we had hiccup with getting them started, and I was actually doing it from Barbados, so it was a little hard to navigate the logistics.

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Daffodil Tyminski: But i'd like to keep this time i'd like to keep our time as close to the Ad calm meeting as possible, so that when we do whatever we do, it says fresh to the dnc meetings as possible.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I think this is OK, with everyone I moved it back about a half hour, because we have some folks about 8am was too early, but if anyone has any problems with this time just let me know and we can work on it going forward.

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Daffodil Tyminski: My hope in the committee is that we really try to be responsible to issues coming up in the neighborhoods and so.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I would say, for everyone in your respective neighborhoods where you live just reach out to your neighbors and try to figure out, you know what's important what's going on.

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Daffodil Tyminski: The things that we put on this month were things that i've gotten many calls on so it seemed to me that if i'm getting them other folks are probably interested in them as well.

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Daffodil Tyminski: We are going to have a few more members after this Nancy for meeting, and so you know we'll be including more areas.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Does anyone have any on the committee anyone have anything to say on that topic questions or problems.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: i'm okay.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, all right, seeing no hands and if i'm oh here's William.

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Daffodil Tyminski: It is 836 flame is joining.

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Charles Rosin: I have one thought, though, the Japanese if we're going to have an in person meeting.

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Charles Rosin: And you should you should have it be some way to get the vm said we should all do it in Barbados.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'll work on that.

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Daffodil Tyminski: The our funding is rather limited but you know.

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Charles Rosin: You know Galvin it's not in the fire anymore.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Exactly exactly we've.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so let's move to item for public comment on items, not on the agenda but related to the neighbor and committee only does anyone have public comment.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: Yes, like, I have one.

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Daffodil Tyminski: um okay go ahead Yolanda what why don't we take the public first Yolanda and then maybe.

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Daffodil Tyminski: We have a hand raise.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead fanny.

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Fanny Magier: No, do you hear me.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, I do.

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Fanny Magier: Okay, so the reason i'm here my name is frankie measure and I play pickup ball.

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Fanny Magier: And it's about peekaboo it's too.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah hey hold on i'm sorry to interrupt you hold on one, second, this is only for things not on the agenda and we are going to deal with pickle ball in a couple minutes when we call that item.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, do you have something not on the agenda that you'd like to comment on.

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Daffodil Tyminski: No, no okay let's just sit tight we'll come back to.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And we also have russ and see know what their hands i'm gonna close public comment with russ.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead russ.

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Daffodil Tyminski: you'll want to go ahead, what did you want to say.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: Yes, I just want to have people notice that the we have a change of stop lights here on Venice an addict Kenny, and I want to thank juilliard Oscar who's no longer with bonnen who helped me to get this it took a process of four years to get those slides in because.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: I guess they decided to put enough sign oh stop signs and signals over where, unfortunately, or some being.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: passed away got struck so sometimes we don't need the neighborhood Council to go through the board to get things done, and I myself as an individual I don't like to give myself credit, but i'm so happy that we got the STOP signs and after four years, thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: that's great thanks.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so let's move on to old business i'm in last month's meeting we had talked about the female issues and i've had a couple folks reach out on that the board did pass the motion that we submitted to the board, which was to create a liaison.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Between the dnc and the city to just figure schema issue out I we did talk about it, I know a lot of us are up on it.

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Daffodil Tyminski: What i'd like to do is for someone on the committee to step up and say i'll be the liaison and kind of steward this project forward um Does anyone want to volunteer chuck do you want to do it.

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Charles Rosin: Well i'm particularly interested in seeing what you have in that city council on Wednesday, that they are not interested in.

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Charles Rosin: Elements of climate change, but I am yes i'd like.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Right okay great well then i'm have at it i'll i'll talk to you and i'll download the information I have, and i've done quite a bit of research on it, as has Yolanda so we can go maybe do a deeper dive on it and then i'll give you my two cents, but obviously you know you figured out.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, let me, let me go to public comment first any public comment on number five.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I see i'm russ and fanny here, although I have feeling their hands to start lowered.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And it looks like rust lowered his hand.

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Daffodil Tyminski: fanny did you speak on this item.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, did you want to speak about fema.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, all right, well then we'll close public comment, I promise we will come back to you on pickle ball um and let me just lower your hand here okay for are gonna be sorry Yolanda go ahead.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: Yes, um I am still doing my investigation on how we got shoved into this mandated.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: charge for us that have properties and have loans on our properties also, I believe i'm waiting for a response from a portion of Santa Monica that also got a we.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: Also, was pushed into the fema are mandated and I am going to be working with i've requested to work with one of the city council's from Santa Monica.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: um Oscar who is, I think, interested in finding out because they didn't know anything about it also.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: So that's interesting to at least I got one city council from another city really interested in this in this in this issue because they never.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: heard about it but i'm still and also for those people that got shoved into this fema mandated on their properties it really makes a big difference because there's no stop clause on this for next year okay was I finally requested, because I got shoved into it without having.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: A policy of how in how much, and what i'm covered for and I had to request it, and I finally got it last week, so we can continue on with this.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay well just coordinate with tracking with me and we'll we'll talk offline and we can report back to the committee, and you know as needed to support.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: There we go.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Through that.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay let's, by the way, just wanted us to one one housekeeping issue, you may have noticed for people tell me that we did not.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Have a item for the Minutes.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I have to admit I made this agenda from last week's agenda where we weren't dealing with minutes because there hadn't been a meeting and so long and I completely forgot to add it so next month we'll we'll just do the Minutes for both meetings and apologies on that for.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Missing that moving on to number six we also.

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Daffodil Tyminski: had discussed at the last meeting developing maybe some sets of guidelines for our fees if the city is going to take the position that our viewers can basically camp wherever they want.

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Daffodil Tyminski: The Board also pass that item, and so, as with the previous item, this Is there anyone that wants to step up and act as a liaison so that we can start moving that forward.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And if you do raise your hand and if you don't I will search outside the committee.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: um I can serve as late as on.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: The daffodil because we have several issues and we are, we had a fire here just the other day in front of my property and I could definitely service layers on on this issue.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And this is really in the spirit more of let's all get along and live together and a compatible and.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: Not only that, but to prevent a fire standing is stemming to our properties.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: My my fence was set on fire, and because we also had a lot of arby's but they have removed them right here between Abbot kinney and ocean so um you know that's We just have to follow through them what the city is doing for us.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, and by the way I did skip this but is there any public comment on this issue this is number six old business on rv guidelines.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'm seeing no hands up in public comment i'm gonna close public comment gotcha.

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Charles Rosin: Well, I just.

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Charles Rosin: You know I know that coven had something to do with with these guidelines being changed.

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Charles Rosin: But the idea of a few years ago there was a lot of talk about the safe parking and really getting them off the streets as a sinking.

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Charles Rosin: spaces away and and I just don't know what the statuses of all of what these guidelines are.

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Charles Rosin: I just was reading, one of the email chains that i'm in about how much trouble they had in their clean up on air the air one market and just you know end of the rv still data, and this is cleaner, but you know I don't understand the legitimacy of it and, as I think I said in one of our.

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Charles Rosin: sidebar conversations Dafur email.

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Charles Rosin: You know.

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Charles Rosin: We had our first rv in the so in the residential neighborhood of the silver triangle, I lasted about two weeks now neighbors bad vibe that person out of your but.

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Charles Rosin: Nonetheless, you know I I all of them didn't know where to go to what to turn it was a lot of misinformation.

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Charles Rosin: One of the reasons I said, you know i'm really happy that we're doing this now and, and I think that you know, I think that the more that this neighborhood Council takes aggressive positions other places in the city.

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Charles Rosin: Can we other Councils, we can liaison and get the citywide stuff that that we might need.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah no that's great thanks um that's why I think we just need a point person to figure out where are we at there's been so many different motions policies it's sort of this ever shifting tides kind of situation.

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Daffodil Tyminski: That, I think we just need one person to kind of be the point person and then right eventually we could bring it to Iraq or bring it to other agencies to try to figure out, you know how to handle the situation.

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Daffodil Tyminski: So okay great let's move on to Item seven, where I feel we have a lot of.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Public on the phone here item seven is pick a ball I creation activities at penn tennis courts.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I don't think pickle association is presenting today the materials about pickle ball are on the neighborhood committee webpage there's a PDF as well as links to a bunch of other resources.

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Daffodil Tyminski: This i'll say this came up to me about five different ways, I had a number of just want a couple friends.

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Daffodil Tyminski: A couple of neighbors and then the pickup ball association reach out to me, all of whom are mad for pickle ball and like mad in a good way for people ball.

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Daffodil Tyminski: and are looking for a place to play in Venice and they currently do have some space at the paddle tennis courts, they had specifically asked about penn mar.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And I just wanted to have the issue a little more broadly, although as i've told some of the paddle tennis people I don't want to really get into dealing that much with ocean front walk until we can do with the ocean front wall committee.

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Daffodil Tyminski: So this came up with pen more, but I think it is kind of a broader issue you know, can we have courts where could they go, how do we do it that sort of thing.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And so I put this on the agenda.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Apparently pen moorpark is supposed to be renovated at some point, and their special funding when you renovate a park to expand access to park facilities and in a lot of ways pickle ball like paddle tennis does that because.

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Daffodil Tyminski: More people can play in the same amount of space and actually with pickle ball, in particular, tends to attract a lot of seniors, and so it also attracts a different cohort to the park.

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Daffodil Tyminski: So let me just read out the motion that's on the table, I will actually you everyone can read it here.

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Daffodil Tyminski: um and i'm not going to go through all of the whereas clauses, but they start here and and and go down to here so everyone can see it and just for this is it 849.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'm.

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Daffodil Tyminski: The motion, though, is the Venice neighborhood Council supports the Los Angeles department parks and recreation find locations in Venice to place pickle ball courts in Panama Park, as well as in other locations.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Do I have a second on the motion.

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Daffodil Tyminski: is actually someone else should be making the motion as the Chair i'm not supposed to make motion so.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Does someone want to make this motion.

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Charles Rosin: All my emotion, just to fix the typo on therefore.

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Daffodil Tyminski: You know, this is my geeky lawyer in me but actually in legal parents with emotion that's the correct spelling.

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Charles Rosin: alive so out of touch.

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Daffodil Tyminski: So many ways, well, it actually means something different, but we can take.

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Daffodil Tyminski: That offline.

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Charles Rosin: No it's fine I just thought it was a typo.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Hello um.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so chapter to make motion Yolanda did you want a.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: Second, yes, definitely.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so let's open this up to public comment I know we have a lot of folks online and I imagine they're all interested in the topic so.

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Daffodil Tyminski: raise your hand if you would like to make a comment.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And I will call on you know just in the order they pop up.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Michael COs your first go ahead.

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Daffodil Tyminski: allowed to talk is not available okay Michael um you have an older version of zoom so i'm going to promote you to a panelist to be able to speak so just hold on a minute that'll take a second sonya why don't you go ahead and wait for Michael to pop up.

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Daffodil Tyminski: So yeah.

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Daffodil Tyminski: So you should be able to talk.

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Sonia: Yes, hi.

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Sonia: hi how are you doing listen I am I am Sonia lucci and i'd be running the PIC of our program here for the last.

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Sonia: Almost four years, Dan Nichols who used to run the program, and this is a really, really great opportunity for seniors because.

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Sonia: seniors this game is like so it's a great sport for young people, but seniors need to get out and enjoy the sport because.

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Sonia: it's just wonderful and we're here every Tuesdays and Thursdays from 830 to 12 and for the.

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Sonia: We really we bring our own nets, so all we're asking is for just the line but non Bali zone so it's very simple we're not we're not bothering the paddle tennis.

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Sonia: Court we bring our next So are we asking is just the line a simple line about you know for the non valleys on the kitchen and That said, it looks like it, you know what that'll be great because I believe we could play want to support a one court.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, thank you, Sonia.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Family why don't you go ahead and you're on now.

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Fanny Magier: and

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Fanny Magier: hi everybody, my name is penny measure and it's for the same thing of saw about a couple of we am a senior analogy on joy you're playing peak of all it's really a healthy.

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Fanny Magier: Again, and it's about what Sonia say it's about adding.

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Fanny Magier: A pen mark for the kitchen line that will be very helpful because it's not practical each time we have to add with a Scotch tape and that can be removed when we play so it just only adding a line on on the Court for the kitchen line.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you okay thanks a lot for me.

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Daffodil Tyminski: So our folks on the phone I haven't seen a lot of you at neighborhood committee meetings before, but if you want to speak on this topic, raise your hand if not i'm going to close public comment I have Paul Stephen and rory and Judy lined up, but after that i'm closing public comment.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, Christine i'll let you on there too.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so go ahead.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Sorry i'm trying to get him here to cooperate.

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Daffodil Tyminski: he's on mute yourself.

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6- Paul: Hello.

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6- Paul: hi there everybody i'm a tennis player and people want to play the ball that's all well and good, so course should be developed for them, we don't need to necessarily take away the paddle tennis courts.

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6- Paul: Understand that they're going after course in pen and then the rip and then also what.

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6- Paul: we're not arguing now i'm speaking, you spoke with regard to the course in Venice understand that they played there on Tuesdays and Thursdays in the morning they're bringing their own that.

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6- Paul: I also understand that they're they're interested in transforming possibly in the future as an indicates here in this document.

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6- Paul: The paddle tennis courts independent ball court I think paddle tennis is an institution it's been around for quite a long time, those of us who play it enjoy it very much.

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6- Paul: We are we are dedicated to the sport we don't want to see the courts go away and be transformed to kick a ball ports.

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6- Paul: I think that that's something that they're inevitably pushing for, and if they need past tense about courts, they should be developed for them.

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6- Paul: not take away something like paddle tennis courts, this is a group of very dedicated people who've been there for many, many years, who enjoy the sport very much and and it's caught on throughout the.

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6- Paul: country we just had a tournament bakkies we have tournaments in in Los Angeles it's an institution it's important and I don't I don't believe.

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6- Paul: That we should be aiming to replace these courts with pickle ball court, I know that's that's what is on the eventual agenda.

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6- Paul: And please, this is not something that those of us who play there are numerous numerous people who come down and play paddle tennis every day don't want to lose those courts.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Now.

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6- Paul: Can I just ask you one question, it seems like, can I ask you one question, I will be finished in a moment.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I will say no, I mean you can ask the question and we can win the board discusses we may address it.

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6- Paul: No, but I mean you do seem to be already indicating that you want to change the courts, the way I read this document here.

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Daffodil Tyminski: All right, thank you, Paul.

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6- Paul: Is that correct.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'm Stephen go ahead.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Sorry, Paul we just can't respond to public comment.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead Stephen.

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Steven Gumplo: Okay, can you hear me now.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, I can.

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Steven Gumplo: Very good, so.

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Steven Gumplo: I am a former President of the United States paddle tennis association, maybe this was paul's question, because this is my question.

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Steven Gumplo: didn't you just say this motion was dealing with penn more and we're talking about vence that's not my point I want to make, but that is a question I have with my time.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Is there anything else.

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Steven Gumplo: No, yes, my my point I want to make is, I agree completely with Paul, I think that if you're going to do anything at penn war or Venice.

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Steven Gumplo: Well, you basically said that we're going to table this until we deal with the boardwalk committee so.

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Steven Gumplo: i'll just address Panama right now.

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Steven Gumplo: pickle ball has a loud noise disturbance issue which has caused it across the country in different places for complaints to the lodge and, of course, to be moved up.

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Steven Gumplo: resurface to repurpose to be once they're already built because of the noise problems now, this also is an environmental issue in parks.

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Steven Gumplo: it's been shown that noise pollution, like this which rises to 55 decibels there's been studies on it causes problems with wildlife okay so Mr park i'd like to make that point.

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Steven Gumplo: And with Venice, I would hope with all these locations, we can study it before we make any moves to add pickle ball now at badness pickle ball is there's two courts.

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Steven Gumplo: couple days a week, Sonia it does a great job with that she doesn't want to disturb things, and you know the the noise is minimal right now, but the more chords you add the more.

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Steven Gumplo: Things you do to increase more pickle ball players coming in the one you're going to have this noise problem, as well as causing all kinds of problems with the power tennis players.

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Steven Gumplo: Who don't want a huge number of people to start coming and seeing Venice as a destination for pickle ball.

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Steven Gumplo: ball has.

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Steven Gumplo: 10s of thousands of players across the country and many more players in this city than they have courts for and we're happy to have them.

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Steven Gumplo: build their own facilities but Pal Pal tennis courts have been around for 45 plus years that Venice and the United States paddle tennis association and other associations such as the pot paddle tennis associate.

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Steven Gumplo: group has been working very well with Venice and helping to fund them with a CT improvements buying nets.

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Steven Gumplo: And running tournaments every year in conjunction with the city volunteering on this committee john caray used to be a member of this committee.

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Steven Gumplo: A few years back, when he was in wall, so we have a very strong presence as Paul indicated, and you know we're just basically waking up to the fact that all these moves are taking place to take over power tennis courts or make them have Sonia wants to make them have pickle ball.

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Daffodil Tyminski: On a couple of try to wrap it up a little.

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Daffodil Tyminski: bit i'm not trying to time people, but just be respectful of everyone's time.

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Steven Gumplo: i'll wrap it up in 30 seconds so she wants right one permanently on the Pal tennis courts, instead of using tape.

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Steven Gumplo: I would say that that will increase people all people coming in and that's going to cause problems with the power tennis community, so I moved to study this and take information from all sides.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks so much.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'm right and Judy go ahead.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'm Ryan Judy i'm going to promote you to pass, I think you may want to update your zoom.

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Daffodil Tyminski: hi there.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'm.

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Daffodil Tyminski: hold on we may need to unmute you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Can you unmute yourself.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'm.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Ryan Judy unmute yourselves will Oh, there you go.

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roy & judy: Now, can you hear me.

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Yes.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead, we can hear you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: We can hear you go ahead.

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Charles Rosin: Judy talk.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I think there may be can't hear us.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay let's go let them figure out their panelists to the can just jump in i'm Christine go ahead.

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roy & judy: Are you there.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, we're here.

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roy & judy: And then here.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead Christie and go and we'll let them jump in when they jump in.

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Christine Lee: hi can you hear me.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Yes.

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Christine Lee: hi there, my name is Christine um and I am a Venice resident stakeholder and i'm also a Community organizer for paddle tennis and Venice.

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Christine Lee: And I just want to stand in solidarity with our tennis players at penn mar and saying no typical ball really just based on history and integrity.

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Christine Lee: I just want to say that bull paddle tennis is very akin to tennis and we have a huge respect for.

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Christine Lee: tennis because it's a sport a competitive sport and also you, you just will never find paddle tennis players playing Pal tennis on tennis courts.

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Christine Lee: Because it will we feel it's a different sport and so because paddle tennis is a different sport in the 60s and 70s and 80s, they were you know titans of the sport went out and built courts, they built courts for paddle tennis, and that is why it is iconic.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: yeah one process.

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Christine Lee: That is why its historical and in Venice and we'd like to keep it that way, and I would really, really like to encourage pickle ball to do the same thing.

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Christine Lee: And and build your community and build your sport build courts that don't need cages that like paddle tennis and tennis does.

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Christine Lee: build it in a place that builds community and not divides the Community, and please, please you know.

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Christine Lee: Use your goodwill integrity to build your sport and you know, not by leeching off of the courts of others and Gordon established that's all I would like to say, and I would really like to encourage you guys build it people will come just as paddle tennis and tennis has as well, like.

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Daffodil Tyminski: bass fishing.

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Daffodil Tyminski: last person for public comment is Fred actually unless we go back to Ryan God, which I tried doing it go ahead Fred.

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Fred Zhang: hi there can you hear me daffodil.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, I can.

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Fred Zhang: hi just want to say thank you for putting this meeting together, and I am a new resident to Venice and I have.

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Fred Zhang: joined and really love the paddle tennis Community since I have moved here I second everything that has been set up a sport, the history of the sport.

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Fred Zhang: And I would really you know just like to offer that you know, with all of the paddle tennis courts here paddle tennis is unique, because.

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Fred Zhang: We need to have a fence cage around you know around the court in order to play, whether they be at Venice or colver or Glen Allah you know that the fence is integral to the game.

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Fred Zhang: You know and and converting a couple of the courts, you know, to pick a ball would would lead to a zero sum game, you know we're losing those courts that we can't easily put up anywhere else.

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Fred Zhang: And I think that pickup ball, you know whether you look at videos of their competition they don't have that requirement.

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Fred Zhang: So you know, to take away a court or two you know may seem like a small thing or painting lines, but it takes away from the communities, the paddle tennis community's ability to you know functionally played the game.

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Fred Zhang: And that's that's all I was also say that you know.

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Fred Zhang: I understand that pickup ball is incredibly popular but paddle tennis is incredibly popular with the senior Community also, I think, if you just take a look at the courts or walk by any day.

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Fred Zhang: You know, there are a huge contingent contingency of our Community is our senior citizens, so you know that's all i'll say.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you okay thanks a lot.

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Michael Koss: hi can I be heard.

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Daffodil Tyminski: um.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Michael shore.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah I see your hand is right, I oddly Oh, you were promoted as a panelist i'm sorry.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead.

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Michael Koss: So.

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Michael Koss: i'm a handball Ambassador I helped lead the charge in opening Venice beach last year, working with Dennis hopper artsy and other outlets, I am also a pickup ball Ambassador I help.

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Michael Koss: Another ambassador in Santa Monica run a program where we have about 2000 players 200 on a daily basis we play at memorial Park, which is for tennis courts that have pickle ball lines.

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Michael Koss: I would certainly be happy to be part of any committee that you might create to investigate how things would work.

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Michael Koss: I would also like to say that I also play paddle tennis in tennis and I want the paddle tennis people on here to know that.

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Michael Koss: As far as I know, we have no hope of converting paddle tennis courts, we love the paddle tennis courts in Venice beach we don't want to change anything like that.

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Michael Koss: So, all we want to do is just get some places to play if you want to put some pickup ball courts, you know, in an empty parking lot that's great We just need some places to play because.

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Michael Koss: Every week at memorial park we introduced the game to at least 51st time players every week, so the sport is growing.

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Michael Koss: at a rate that just can't be contained so we just need some places to play, I appreciate that you guys are on board with us.

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Michael Koss: And you certainly you know know that all these sports can coexist i'll send you an email, so that you have my contact info So if I can help you in any way i'd be happy to.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks so much Michael sorry i'm trying to get off here um okay so we'll close public comment I think we're Judy dropped off, so if anyone knows them or they want to email.

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Daffodil Tyminski: The neighborhood committee at Venice nc calm have them do so for their comments, obviously this is not going to be the last time we deal with this issue, let me open up comment now to.

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roy & judy: The committee here we're here.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Oh wait, are you there okay great.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Why don't you go ahead and then we'll we'll go to committee comment.

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roy & judy: Okay, great i'll be very brief longtime paddle tennis player.

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roy & judy: Personally I don't have any problem with Sonia suggestion of painting the lines on the paddle tennis and the to paddle tennis courts that they use that really doesn't disturb the people who are playing paddle tennis having two lines there.

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roy & judy: But going forward, I think that the one thing that you really need to understand is that paddle tennis players.

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roy & judy: pickup ball players can play on a paddle tennis court, they simply need a slightly higher net which they bring in they raise paddle tennis players cannot play on a pickle ball court because there's no way to lower a net once a higher net is our is installed.

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roy & judy: that's right Oh, you can always temporarily use a paddle tennis court for pickup ball, you can never use a pickle ball court for paddle tennis so anything that has ever considered I would hope would be simply a matter of.

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roy & judy: temporarily raising or the Net for their purposes, but not never permanently.

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roy & judy: Changing the photo with the ball, because then that completely lets out any paddle tennis players that want to use it.

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Daffodil Tyminski: that's.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay that's a great point thanks um Okay, so let me close.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'm committee anyone have any comments on the committee.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: I do.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: Yes, um I was originally on a committee several years ago, where we establish certain paddle tennis tennis courts in areas that they did not exist, like in East Los Angeles i'm talking about like boyle heights as boyle heights it has a lot of parks and I would not touch.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: paddle tennis or into tennis courts, because they require certain regulations so people do not get hurt on these, I am a tennis player past tennis player and a paddle tennis player.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: And I went through the regulations in which the city establish in order to get these courts, going so pick a ball, I never realized that has really picked up.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: But i'm going to go back into my notes, but I need to approach a different way into getting pickle ball that especially senior citizens, because if they get hurt on those courts, the city Israel, the.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: parks and recreation is responsible it's a whole process, so we can get the pickup ball courts going, because we have parks, that we need renovation, they need new activity and to them.

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Daffodil Tyminski: So if you wanna i'm listening I just need to step off for one second.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Some sure someone is obviously on fire here hold on.

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Charles Rosin: She was talking metaphorically.

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Okay hold on.

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Daffodil Tyminski: hi everyone I apologize, when someone calls three times in quick succession, I assume there's something horrible going on.

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Daffodil Tyminski: um.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Does anyone else in the committee have any public comment.

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Charles Rosin: I knew.

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Charles Rosin: I have a couple, because I, you know listened and took notes and just want to say first of all to our public people I really appreciate.

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Charles Rosin: The clarity that I got from both micro cars and from Judy Judy right room because they explain things and I will have questions about.

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Charles Rosin: You know the difference between yes i'm clearly you can't size of the net makes it a real big issue about making a designated.

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Charles Rosin: pickup ball court, when the time arrives, but this is just looking at it and I think that Yolanda.

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Charles Rosin: You know her comment they're coming into and saying look you didn't realize how popular pickup ball has become, and I think that is also you know could be threatening for other sports, you know, those of us who play tennis in the 70s and 80s.

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Charles Rosin: know that you know the sport went through some hard times and so i'm really and I know that so many people both young people and old people as.

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Charles Rosin: seniors are playing.

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Charles Rosin: The game now pick a ball, for all sorts of reasons, and you know eventually There probably will be a private market for it, just like that was with.

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Charles Rosin: Back in the day with racquetball.

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Charles Rosin: But, but one of the big advantages i've always been told about pickup was that you get that they would have the space, you could get more players to play there'd be more access.

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Charles Rosin: You know paddleball clearly in my experience, playing paddleball which was only about a year year and a half years ago, it was like sport, but.

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Charles Rosin: It was very hard to get a court as it exists, maybe, if you reserve times one with a friend, no it's a it's a real hit or miss, so I think it's really wise daffodil to where you're making you're separating the two and good.

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Charles Rosin: luck.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, I didn't.

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Charles Rosin: really assess this much, much better I would.

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Charles Rosin: think that listen futures coming you know, for those who said there's going to be an eventual line takeaway I was really glad to learn that the line is not such a big deal because I thought the battle.

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Charles Rosin: zone that that conversant with paddle tennis but, as I say later for a while there were a lot of lines on that core seems like what other ones not going to make that big of a difference.

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Charles Rosin: But i'm more bullish about scenes tennis courts being converted or new courts, but you know only if it's cost effective this city, you know.

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Charles Rosin: has a lot of other things to spend money on and to go towards even in a recreational capacity so i'm i'm all for what we're doing here with the study of it.

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Charles Rosin: And I know.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Just let me interject here a little bit too, since i'm the one that put this on here, I can maybe give everyone some context i'm.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: daffodil yes, may I make a suggestion.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: In order to start all this before we really start dividing the paddle tennis on the tennis in the pickup ball Community what we what I what somebody needs to do and I don't know if somebody wants to carry this on is, we need to go to the city and explain to them.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: What is happening.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Because there's.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: always been the the forward of many things in sport paddle tennis and and and and tennis are already a man is is an important sport to the to the whole world, because we are in the Olympics, we have a special events and but some if you want to I can go to the city myself and tell them.

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Daffodil Tyminski: This is your want to just hold on one second just let me speak for one second because I think I.

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Can.

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Daffodil Tyminski: answer some of your concerns so as the personal put this on the agenda people reached out to me about wanting pickle ball I don't think there is any intention to displace paddle tennis I do think all they wanted with paddle tennis was aligned.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And if we can build more courts that's obviously the first.

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Daffodil Tyminski: that's the first goal just the reality is is our part, you know each seat Council district gets the same park budget our park budget is overwhelmingly absorbed by the boardwalk and it's by serving activity, so we are always short staffed short served on.

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Daffodil Tyminski: On what actually comes to the Venice community, so the reality is there just may not be a lot of money to build new pickup ball courts.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And when I actually went over to pen mark, because the request was initially for penn mar with the idea that pin bar is about to undergo some renovation.

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Daffodil Tyminski: All of the great wall people wanted was that on one of the courts to paint some pickup lines, so that one court could be used periodically, just as the way they've got these two courts and paddle tennis.

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Daffodil Tyminski: and

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Daffodil Tyminski: walking depend more and walking around and, by the way, i'm an avid tennis person myself I don't really play basketball, I never can get on the court because they're all basically people giving private lessons but.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I don't know where else and pen mar you could put a pickle ball court it just doesn't seem like their space anywhere there's either a tree, or you know, a parking lot.

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Daffodil Tyminski: So I don't know that pen Mars, ultimately, the right place to go but.

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Daffodil Tyminski: The move here is to talk to parks and recs and sort of get them involved in the whole conversation I believe the pickled while people are already doing this, but.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'd like to do it within the rubric of the dnc exactly so that folks like the paddle tennis folks can weigh in or tennis people or whatever.

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Daffodil Tyminski: You know, there could be courts, for example by the Venice library right there space there that seems like no one's really using or.

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Daffodil Tyminski: You know I don't even know we'd have to look around and figure out where's their space that the city has to be used.

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Daffodil Tyminski: When it comes to ocean front walk Ideally, we would just build additional facilities that's there's a lot of space down there, but I would kind of like to have that conversation more with the ocean front wall committee and let them work with the paddle tennis folks to explore that so.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Anyway, the whole point of this motion was that we support finding locations to place pickle vocal cords if it's striping pen mar pen mar tennis court or.

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Daffodil Tyminski: You know, putting a line on the two parallel tennis courts, you know, whatever works for everybody, so anyway that's my two cents William why don't you go ahead, you should.

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william wood: Thank you and um no I guess ECHO chuck's comments about you know thanking people for.

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william wood: Being up and participating early on a Friday morning and your.

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william wood: comments and feelings about all the different.

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william wood: racket and ball sports.

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william wood: I know know about tennis i've seen palatable i've seen pickle ball on TV.

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william wood: But.

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william wood: I also agree with some of the comments and I think chuck was kind of getting at this to.

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william wood: Maybe it's more appropriate to have emotion that asked the city to study places to locate courts as opposed to having a motion that's where did to find locations.

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william wood: panwar wherever I mean I live on palomar and use the park I don't know again the dimensions of a pickle ball court if there are possibilities up there for pipe or the renovations or whatever some of the stuff with funding if there's going to be.

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william wood: Money spent.

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william wood: For new courts to be built, wherever maybe there's possibilities for private money to support also it's not tax dollars i'm just saying.

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william wood: Instead of saying do this, we have emotion that says figure out and look at and think about how to do this, and maybe that can alleviate you know and address some of these tensions between pickle ball people and.

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william wood: You know paddle about people and handball people attendance people or whoever, so that.

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william wood: I would support an amended motion.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, thanks for you i'm Darrell go ahead.

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Darryl DuFay: Thanks i'm so glad that you're you're hearing me.

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Darryl DuFay: Yes, Okay, because I had to I had to come back in.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I saw you.

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Darryl DuFay: i'm so glad i'm so glad you're having this, because what I have read about a pickle ball, it is just overwhelming the number of a one to 5 million people.

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Darryl DuFay: And I appreciated the paddle tennis people saying what they had to say what I did not appreciate is the saying the talking about pen mar because it could be too noisy.

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Darryl DuFay: And I understand that there is never enough space to do what you want to do so, I would appreciate that, as we move forward on this.

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Darryl DuFay: Because the discussion I had with my neighbor which generated most of your data was not to to to focus on pen mark and not on ocean front walk in terms of the panel tennis, so I think we just moved forward to gather more information.

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Darryl DuFay: The Nice to find a parking lot that's not used.

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Darryl DuFay: Thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, thanks Darrell.

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Daffodil Tyminski: You know, two things I have a i'm a member of a club that is a tennis club, and we did convert a pickle ball court, one of the courts to for pickle ball court, you can fit for on to one tennis.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Court and the noise issue actually is pretty easy to deal with that was a big issue with this club and they do have wrapped that they can wrap the court in that really does a great job with the noise.

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Daffodil Tyminski: But um.

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Daffodil Tyminski: But yeah I just i'm with respect to penn mar versus other places I just know having talked to parks and recs that, regardless of whether we say pen mark only or here only they are going to consider all of their properties.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Right just trying to be realistic and practical about how this is going to unfold.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I would suggest we we do have ocean front walk committee weigh in on this and you can have this discussion, if someone wants to make a.

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Daffodil Tyminski: friendly amendment on the motion, they can otherwise the motion on the floor is the one that we read.

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Charles Rosin: I personally in all due respect to general and William.

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Charles Rosin: I you know studies taking it back to any part of the city studies is where studies was where things go to die.

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Charles Rosin: whereas this is more of a call to action, even if it's if it gets a main differences what we studied it and we look at this just going into study group means we're not going to do anything unless of course it's our Council middle already knows the answer of anything being studied.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: Can I weigh in on that.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Sure Yolanda and then, if we don't have an amendment at that point i'm going to call the vote.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: On first of all, you guys, we have the Olympics coming up 2028 okay pick a ball, we could be the four runners of really encouraging pickle now.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: The only way to city does move forward is when they have private investments way in with the investments that the city is willing to put in that I know by a fact because i've done it before so.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: let's find out, maybe we can get first to city was what they're going to establish and the rules of.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: Building or putting in pick a bowl for the future and second let's see we can get private investment to come in and build.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: help build these pickup ball courts okay that's the way the city will eventually move because it's the interest of the city, especially with the Olympics coming in which I have worked three Olympics does things.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, great thanks, so can we take a vote on the motion and with the understanding that my plan here is to then ask the ocean front wall committee to take this up as well.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: And you read the motion daffodil.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, the motion is on the screen, I will highlight it, it is now, therefore, the Venice neighborhood Council supports the Los Angeles department of parks and recreation finding locations in Venice to place pickle ball courts in penn moorpark as well as in other locations.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: I second the motion.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, I believe chuck chuck made the motion, I think you second it Oh, how can we take a vote.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'm chuck.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Yolanda.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: So I.

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Daffodil Tyminski: searched Sergio.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Darrell.

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Daffodil Tyminski: St.

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Daffodil Tyminski: William.

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william wood: Staying.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'm staying okay.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And i'll vote I to.

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Daffodil Tyminski: OK, so the motion carries for folks on the phone if you have any questions, please reach out to any of us, but my plan, again, is to have ocean front walk take this up and then we'll see if we can take it to the board.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you let's move on to our last item I know we're running a little over time here, and this is also kind of a big calm for session, the next item, this is item eight.

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Daffodil Tyminski: New business which actually clickable should have a new business sorry about that I am a is sidewalk maintenance and repair this came up just by way of background I don't know if anyone saw the.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Report that RON galperin released he's our city controller he's also rank those proactive and doing things i've highlighted that link it's also on the neighborhood committee website.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Obviously, everyone that lives in Venice knows about all of our broken sidewalks you should see my block it literally looks like Berlin post World War Two it's crazy thing.

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Daffodil Tyminski: We all have struggled with trying to get sidewalks repaired there apparently are resources out there to to have this happen, it comes with a lot of issues, this is kind of a big complicated topic.

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Daffodil Tyminski: As I understand it at a very basic level.

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Daffodil Tyminski: The city is starting to engage more with private contractors and with smaller contractors to get the sidewalk program going.

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Daffodil Tyminski: But if the city repairs a sidewalk in front of your House and it breaks after that you have a duty to repair it so there's a lot of people that are actually now refusing to get their sidewalks fixed.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Because they don't want to be responsible for it.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I was 12 years ago in this an issue, so I don't think in five years, the city's made any progress in this, but I think it is something I have a lot of people complain about sidewalks and we should at least address it and figure out, you know what in Venice, we can do so that is the issue.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And this, I didn't prepare this motion, but this sort of came to me, and I would say the motion part of this is.

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Daffodil Tyminski: The neighborhood Committee seeks to have the city, either directly or in concert with homeowner been programs to repair existing broken sidewalks.

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Daffodil Tyminski: that's the issue does somebody want to make the motion.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: i'll make the motion oh it's okay go ahead.

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Daffodil Tyminski: let's say Yolanda why don't you make the motion and check your second it.

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Charles Rosin: Or why not.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay um do you have any we.

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Daffodil Tyminski: want to hold on one SEC, let me go to public comment.

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Daffodil Tyminski: First, are there any members of the public that would like to comment on this.

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Daffodil Tyminski: it's got a few folks here.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, I see no public comment.

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Daffodil Tyminski: So we'll close public comment and.

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Daffodil Tyminski: You want to let me just get cassie cassie why don't you go first.

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Cassie B: yeah so I could you introduce the motion, could you kind of just go over that what that means, thank you.

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Cassie B: um.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah so.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Basically we're just asking the city to repair system broken sidewalks um.

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Daffodil Tyminski: We will, this is gonna, this is an issue that I think is going to take a few times before us to figure this out because, as this was.

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Daffodil Tyminski: presented to me as the motion it's unclear to me at this point what the city will do, or we are able to do as the neighborhood committee because it's not clear to me what the parameters are the city setting.

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Daffodil Tyminski: We actually are going to have RON galperin come to the dnc meeting, either in December or January I have soft but if he came he would speak to this topic you give us a little bit more guidance.

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Daffodil Tyminski: So that's that's what I have daryl go ahead.

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Darryl DuFay: Ah, I I am supportive this because, just like the previous notion, if we are not heard we don't exist, and I have read a lot about so sidewalks etc, I see you have reference here.

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Darryl DuFay: it's a very, very difficult problem, the problems do not get solved unless it's brought to the attention of the politicians over and over and over again, thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Darrell.

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Daffodil Tyminski: anyone else have any comment on this.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: Yes, I do.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah sorry Yolanda, of course, sorry yes.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: um yes, this needs a lot of study um i've gone through this process in front of my properties and I got stuck with two bills on it so.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: If it's so sidewalks like, for example, like over by the post office that happens to be part of a it's not in front of a home they can fix the sidewalks, but if you.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: happen to have a sidewalk where a tree is already lifting up your sidewalk.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: Sometimes you have to find out it's it's it's not a complicated system to a process to get it done we I can go to the city.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: let's take pictures where they do need to get done but let's not make sure that there's also the property owner that has a nasty sidewalk in front of his house get stuck.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: With the bill, also because it has happened, it has happened to me, and it has happened to other friends of mine that all of a sudden.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: We call in to get that sidewalk done and then all of a sudden, we get hit with a bill that they're very sticky within, and I want had RON help them to explain that that, why is it that sometimes we get stuck with those bill okay.

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Daffodil Tyminski: By the way, you raise two very good points I should have mentioned that I forgot when I did reach out to the arbor committee because they are very focused on street trees.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And the felling of street trees for sidewalk repair and I think they've worked a lot with the city, so that it used to be, that is, the city was going to repair a sidewalk and it was near a tree that would just take the tree down.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And I believe that is no longer the City policy, so the arbor committee is not as concerned about sidewalk repair they've greatly reduced the number of trees lost for sidewalk repair.

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Daffodil Tyminski: But actually Yolanda you raise a really good point, and what I might propose is that we continue this motion for a month and in the intervening time.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I would, all of us reach out to our neighborhoods and try to identify really problematic locations and maybe we can just focus on some really bad problems to take as like kind of case studies to figure out how this works.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: And, if I may yet, if I may add to it daffodil because of the drought and some of these trees.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: require really a lot of water, they are drying and, unfortunately, when the winds come, and we were going to be running into a powerful wins apparently this year.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: Because of the drought and also because of the lack of rain and if all of a sudden, we get a big rain and when.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: They the wind knocks them down and we've had serious accident that when which they fall into a home.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: or they fall into a house, so we really need a very good study of which trees are really in trouble of probably falling down in causing serious problems.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: it's a big process, but we can get it done it happened in boyle heights that whole street of first street in front of a hollenbeck they had to remove a whole bunch of beautiful trees, because of it okay.

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Daffodil Tyminski: um I am I believe that the arbor committee is already on that I will loop back with Isabel to va who's the Chair of that committee, but I, my understanding is there they're very aware of that issue and are working on identifying they're doing a cataloging of trees and then so.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: Because there are people who go against the fact of removing a tree, and I can understand the fact you're not going to remove a beautiful tree that's been standing okay.

690
01:18:24.570 --> 01:18:31.560
Yolanda Gonzalez: Right, but if it's going to cause a problem which is ready to fall and cause damage the city doesn't want that liability.

691
01:18:31.950 --> 01:18:32.910
Daffodil Tyminski: Right understood.

692
01:18:33.360 --> 01:18:34.440
Daffodil Tyminski: so good.

693
01:18:35.310 --> 01:18:38.550
Charles Rosin: I just have to say one thing about that that the tree that's the most.

694
01:18:40.080 --> 01:18:46.110
Charles Rosin: Vulnerable I believe most horrible during a kind of wind storms having a palm trees.

695
01:18:46.770 --> 01:18:52.620
Charles Rosin: Oh, I i'm very concerned about where my my daughter and son in law live at range of like that that.

696
01:18:54.900 --> 01:19:03.810
Charles Rosin: palm trees, is going to all over on we're over the amount of palm fronds and you see like that that I think is a more.

697
01:19:04.680 --> 01:19:17.760
Charles Rosin: immediate danger, and the only other one thing I want to say about the cataloging of the of the sidewalks I think it's really important if someone's going to go out and do that i'm going to take a walk in my around the silver triangle, because I know i'm almost.

698
01:19:18.900 --> 01:19:30.840
Charles Rosin: places take a photograph means much more than saying I walked around and there were 10 of them just take a photograph of five of them, and you know that that will have the impact.

699
01:19:31.140 --> 01:19:41.730
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah I mean what i'm thinking is let's do that, I mean, I would say, you know, this is obviously informal but we're the neighborhood committee right so we're at the most grassroots level possible, I would, I would suggest that each of us.

700
01:19:42.210 --> 01:19:51.270
Daffodil Tyminski: You know just walk through our neighborhoods I can certainly do it here, or you know, so there is take some photos identify the location, maybe GEO tagging or something.

701
01:19:52.350 --> 01:19:59.670
Daffodil Tyminski: i'll make an announcement at the dnc meeting as well to just encourage the general public to go out and do that and send us what they have and then.

702
01:20:00.090 --> 01:20:12.660
Daffodil Tyminski: Perhaps what we can do is just take maybe five locations and try to run them through the city process and see what what really the rules are you know does liability shift to the homeowner you know will someone gets stuck with the bill.

703
01:20:13.980 --> 01:20:18.300
Daffodil Tyminski: And then we can really figure out how this works, because ultimately what i've talked to.

704
01:20:18.720 --> 01:20:32.850
Daffodil Tyminski: If I got 10 to 20 people that talked about this everyone's got a different story about what happened with their friends about fixing so i'm a you know that's my suggestion, and that we you know I think the official.

705
01:20:34.020 --> 01:20:37.860
Daffodil Tyminski: procedure here is to table this motion until we bring it back.

706
01:20:39.600 --> 01:20:43.770
Daffodil Tyminski: So with that said i'll make a motion to table this until January.

707
01:20:44.160 --> 01:20:50.730
Daffodil Tyminski: I second Yolanda you second okay sorry I missed I missed here to folks that are public comment on cassie go ahead.

708
01:20:52.470 --> 01:20:53.940
Daffodil Tyminski: think you need to unmute yourself.

709
01:21:00.030 --> 01:21:01.770
Daffodil Tyminski: cassie did you want to speak on this.

710
01:21:06.900 --> 01:21:09.540
Cassie B: Sorry, my thing was no.

711
01:21:09.960 --> 01:21:14.280
Daffodil Tyminski: that's Okay, no okay Darrell did you want to speak on this again.

712
01:21:14.850 --> 01:21:15.690
Darryl DuFay: Oh no.

713
01:21:16.110 --> 01:21:19.920
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, all right, so can we just get a vote on.

714
01:21:22.050 --> 01:21:30.450
Daffodil Tyminski: tabling this and everyone, please, I encourage you to go out and talk to your neighbors and try to find some good examples i'm Yolanda.

715
01:21:31.290 --> 01:21:31.740
Yes.

716
01:21:34.470 --> 01:21:34.950
Daffodil Tyminski: chuck.

717
01:21:35.310 --> 01:21:35.760
Yes.

718
01:21:38.310 --> 01:21:38.880
Daffodil Tyminski: Sergio.

719
01:21:39.600 --> 01:21:40.230
Yes.

720
01:21:42.420 --> 01:21:43.890
Daffodil Tyminski: Darrell yes.

721
01:21:45.780 --> 01:21:46.350
Daffodil Tyminski: cassie.

722
01:21:48.450 --> 01:21:48.900
Cassie B: Yes.

723
01:21:50.130 --> 01:21:50.640
Daffodil Tyminski: William.

724
01:21:51.210 --> 01:21:51.540
Yes.

725
01:21:53.490 --> 01:21:57.630
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, and although yes to so the motion hold on one second is to table.

726
01:21:58.740 --> 01:22:00.180
Daffodil Tyminski: To January.

727
01:22:01.620 --> 01:22:02.580
Daffodil Tyminski: To develop.

728
01:22:04.410 --> 01:22:05.430
Daffodil Tyminski: examples.

729
01:22:08.160 --> 01:22:08.640
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay.

730
01:22:09.660 --> 01:22:14.250
Daffodil Tyminski: All right, great so the motion carries unanimously.

731
01:22:16.620 --> 01:22:23.370
Daffodil Tyminski: And then again if anyone wants to give me a call or talk about it, please do throughout the month and then we'll bring this back on anywhere.

732
01:22:31.230 --> 01:22:41.520
Charles Rosin: Relative tonight we don't have to discuss this now, but it was a question a general question out, am I, the only one that seen a deterioration in this over the last few years.

733
01:22:41.910 --> 01:22:45.390
Daffodil Tyminski: So let's move on to Item nine which is trash and street cleaning.

734
01:22:47.430 --> 01:22:48.960
Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead chuck you can buy you buy.

735
01:22:49.590 --> 01:22:56.970
Charles Rosin: I started it was like a month like six weeks and and it just seemed not everything was done in the day and it meant that the street.

736
01:22:58.470 --> 01:23:00.150
Charles Rosin: clean up the street clean.

737
01:23:01.200 --> 01:23:09.990
Charles Rosin: hands, there was still sitting out there and they weren't being done and and it just seemed like is this going on in every other places in Venice.

738
01:23:10.980 --> 01:23:24.540
Charles Rosin: And that was my curiosity is no because we tend to be those of us who live here to know where we're really 14 different neighborhoods and so here, I saw it as as the merging of of just.

739
01:23:26.040 --> 01:23:31.980
Charles Rosin: sitting in efficiency and I didn't know if there was any coordination or how it even works I didn't know.

740
01:23:34.620 --> 01:23:42.870
Daffodil Tyminski: um well I have let me say one thing to this and we'll open up to public comment tuck when you brought this up, it was kind of ironic, because my neighbors and I.

741
01:23:43.590 --> 01:23:53.100
Daffodil Tyminski: Talk about this, all the time, because our trash not only is our trash erratic but I don't know if this happens all over Venice, but in our neighborhood they don't recycle and.

742
01:23:54.240 --> 01:24:05.190
Daffodil Tyminski: They use the blue cans and they actually send the truck back through to pick it up a second time, and as the trash guy told me literally to make it look like they're recycling but it's the same.

743
01:24:05.580 --> 01:24:12.780
Daffodil Tyminski: truck they use they just dump everything in a second time, and I said, well, that seems kind of silly and it turns out that.

744
01:24:13.740 --> 01:24:23.670
Daffodil Tyminski: The recycling trucks, that the city has don't fit down a lot of the Venice alleys, including mine, which is a substandard alley so they just kind of fake it.

745
01:24:24.360 --> 01:24:38.790
Daffodil Tyminski: And we had been talking to the Council office as to whether I live right off mean shoot on a walk straight and whether we could just bring our cans for cycling on the Main Street, so that we actually could resell in our neighborhood and first that whole you know.

746
01:24:40.350 --> 01:24:46.080
Daffodil Tyminski: But so when you brought this up, I thought well you know my neighbors are all trying to figure this out as well, and this is obviously.

747
01:24:46.770 --> 01:24:56.610
Daffodil Tyminski: A topic I also learned that I do not think streets are cleaned on a weekly basis, I think it's every other week now, even though, for parking purposes it's enforced every week.

748
01:24:57.630 --> 01:25:03.210
Daffodil Tyminski: So with that that's my two cents on it, is there any public comment Does anyone want to weigh in or have any.

749
01:25:04.410 --> 01:25:06.420
Daffodil Tyminski: Questions or comments on trashing screening.

750
01:25:11.250 --> 01:25:15.360
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, seeing no hands let's go back to the committee on this one.

751
01:25:16.920 --> 01:25:30.450
Daffodil Tyminski: If there's no motion here, by the way, I am did this, just as a discussion point and I thought I would really want to get the committee's thoughts on what they think is going on, and then we can either come up with emotion now or have one next month.

752
01:25:32.250 --> 01:25:33.600
Yolanda Gonzalez: I would like to speak on it.

753
01:25:33.810 --> 01:25:35.520
Daffodil Tyminski: daffodil sure go ahead Yolanda.

754
01:25:36.000 --> 01:25:47.400
Yolanda Gonzalez: Okay i'm so glad this is brought up because first of all, we have ordinances and we've been given up by the city what you need to do with your trash how to dispose of it.

755
01:25:48.030 --> 01:26:00.390
Yolanda Gonzalez: If it's in your House it's your trash once it's put out on the on the street property to be picked up that's property of the city second.

756
01:26:01.560 --> 01:26:10.590
Yolanda Gonzalez: Like you take the Oxford triangle, people are responsible to take out their trash and put their trash cans back in side their property.

757
01:26:11.100 --> 01:26:19.740
Yolanda Gonzalez: That is the ordinance in the city, you do not leave your trash cans out now I live here up on all hambro alley.

758
01:26:20.520 --> 01:26:32.370
Yolanda Gonzalez: And the problem that we are having is that people dump the trash and, of course, unfortunately, the homeless dig into it, and then they take everything out they dump everything out and they leave the trash.

759
01:26:32.730 --> 01:26:46.530
Yolanda Gonzalez: out on the side on the alley and what happens is when the trash people come to pick it up, they have a hard time going through, because there's glass and whatever there is for them to go through.

760
01:26:47.130 --> 01:26:59.850
Yolanda Gonzalez: Now we can start a program that we go through sections of the city of our Community actually and start putting these ordinances in place.

761
01:27:00.240 --> 01:27:10.650
Yolanda Gonzalez: You either put your trash out the day it's going to be picked up or put it back in and make sure that the trash people do pick up properly.

762
01:27:11.160 --> 01:27:23.460
Yolanda Gonzalez: In the city of pasadena you cannot leave your trash cans out, not one day because they will find I find you, and they will put a ticket on your trash cans that you need to put that trash can back inside your property.

763
01:27:24.240 --> 01:27:33.450
Yolanda Gonzalez: And it happens in other cities, we can do the same thing, because our streets and our hours are looking terrible and there's no reason for it.

764
01:27:35.310 --> 01:27:49.890
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, great thanks um yeah where I grew up by the way, you were not allowed to put your cans out before 5pm The night before and they had to be back in your House by 10am the next day or i'll see you would get a big red sticker on your trash cans, with a ticket.

765
01:27:51.960 --> 01:27:56.160
Daffodil Tyminski: Here it's pretty much a free for all Darrell you have your hand up did you want to speak on this issue.

766
01:27:56.190 --> 01:28:00.630
Darryl DuFay: yeah i'm glad you clarified, but you put here because I thought it was so broad.

767
01:28:01.230 --> 01:28:08.670
Darryl DuFay: yeah I can only speak to trash collection and in the canals because it's it's excellent.

768
01:28:09.270 --> 01:28:23.370
Darryl DuFay: And they have we are, we have our three things street cleaning, we only have courts and they do not clean the courts they've never been cleaned so for those that have other problems i'm glad you put it up, so we can get more information.

769
01:28:24.570 --> 01:28:25.350
Daffodil Tyminski: Oh thanks Darrell.

770
01:28:26.580 --> 01:28:31.500
Daffodil Tyminski: anyone else, want to comment on this, or do you know I don't know.

771
01:28:32.820 --> 01:28:35.940
Daffodil Tyminski: What the emotion is here, because it is such a broad topic I.

772
01:28:36.150 --> 01:28:39.450
Charles Rosin: wasn't trying to make emotion, I was trying to do what where Am I.

773
01:28:39.960 --> 01:28:41.910
Charles Rosin: Part of town that it's like.

774
01:28:42.720 --> 01:28:46.770
Charles Rosin: No time on their hands and saw this in other places too, I was my.

775
01:28:47.010 --> 01:28:48.360
Yolanda Gonzalez: he's right he's right.

776
01:28:49.500 --> 01:28:56.580
Daffodil Tyminski: let's not motion yeah I think what we'll do with this one is um you know there's no other public comment.

777
01:28:57.900 --> 01:29:04.770
Daffodil Tyminski: So we'll probably close this out we've also got a little bit over, but I would just keep this.

778
01:29:05.370 --> 01:29:17.340
Daffodil Tyminski: topic alive, I know my neighbors are actively pursuing this with the Council office trying to get some answers, and that may shed some light on as the dnc maybe what we could do in the future to help with this.

779
01:29:18.210 --> 01:29:21.600
Yolanda Gonzalez: If I may may, may I make a comment on this stuff a door.

780
01:29:22.200 --> 01:29:22.920
Daffodil Tyminski: For go ahead.

781
01:29:23.730 --> 01:29:33.120
Yolanda Gonzalez: apartment owners apartment buildings for less than five units a tenant pays on his electric bill a trash pickup.

782
01:29:34.260 --> 01:29:43.710
Yolanda Gonzalez: For any apartment beyond the units, they have to get their own private service to come and pick up the trash Okay, they do not recycle.

783
01:29:45.120 --> 01:29:45.600
Yolanda Gonzalez: Now.

784
01:29:46.950 --> 01:29:58.380
Yolanda Gonzalez: The city has put out recycle special bins and the private companies when we were not in control of these trash people put out recycling bins, especially for that.

785
01:29:59.460 --> 01:30:07.020
Yolanda Gonzalez: that's another issue that we need to attack that if they are going to be picking up just one trash and they don't recycle we've got a problem.

786
01:30:09.150 --> 01:30:25.260
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay um well, I suggest like what the sidewalk issue, because these are kind of quality of life, issues that that are probably pervasive in our Community is that we just reach out to our neighbors and try to suss out with a little more specificity, what exactly the problems are.

787
01:30:26.520 --> 01:30:32.640
Daffodil Tyminski: And what we can do before, for example, for the recycling issue if they're not picking up recycling.

788
01:30:33.690 --> 01:30:40.380
Daffodil Tyminski: You know, we can try to start that or at least have the city, maybe, give us a drop off point somewhere which a lot of cities do a lot of neighborhoods do.

789
01:30:40.710 --> 01:30:48.660
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, um and, similarly, with the street cleaning chuck I don't know, do you want to follow up on that.

790
01:30:49.230 --> 01:30:50.700
Charles Rosin: I certainly you know but.

791
01:30:51.210 --> 01:30:57.060
Charles Rosin: One of the places where the trucks come out of is just not far from me or an average me.

792
01:30:57.960 --> 01:31:02.400
Charles Rosin: And i'll probably just maybe walk my dog over there and knock on somebody's word.

793
01:31:03.450 --> 01:31:11.850
Charles Rosin: Out of the recycling trucks work, because if the cycling is the one that that stays is the one that doesn't get picked up every day.

794
01:31:11.910 --> 01:31:15.180
Charles Rosin: right and it is not really recycle.

795
01:31:16.560 --> 01:31:19.710
Charles Rosin: um you know that would be.

796
01:31:24.030 --> 01:31:29.580
Daffodil Tyminski: I personally I think it's a dirty little secret that the city doesn't want anyone to know that they're not really recycling.

797
01:31:30.450 --> 01:31:34.800
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, because they told me sort of like oops you know.

798
01:31:34.860 --> 01:31:37.050
Yolanda Gonzalez: Just so you know right you're right.

799
01:31:37.770 --> 01:31:46.770
Daffodil Tyminski: um but yeah well I do our office Office about that we're obviously again my neighbors down the Wall Street are all on this.

800
01:31:47.640 --> 01:31:48.240
Daffodil Tyminski: And i'm.

801
01:31:48.780 --> 01:31:49.590
Yolanda Gonzalez: You know.

802
01:31:50.250 --> 01:31:53.880
Yolanda Gonzalez: yeah can work with chuck on this one i'm really good at this one i've done.

803
01:31:56.610 --> 01:31:57.300
Charles Rosin: Everything.

804
01:31:58.320 --> 01:32:01.350
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah I can sense that okay great no.

805
01:32:01.800 --> 01:32:03.000
Yolanda Gonzalez: 25 years.

806
01:32:03.300 --> 01:32:15.870
Daffodil Tyminski: Again let's have a brief discussion about this and report back next meeting, which brings me to I think next meeting I would book out a like an hour and a half for it because we went a little bit over now and some of these issues are going to come back.

807
01:32:17.910 --> 01:32:26.850
Daffodil Tyminski: So just for everyone's planning purposes, maybe we'll do 830 to 10 or eight to 930 depending on everyone's schedule um.

808
01:32:27.930 --> 01:32:38.010
Daffodil Tyminski: But um but if we're gonna not take action on this now, I think we're at number 10 anyone have any other closing comments or things they want to bring up or.

809
01:32:40.290 --> 01:32:45.480
Charles Rosin: I think it would be good if we're gonna have an hour and a half meetings which is fine with me that they do start in a body.

810
01:32:46.650 --> 01:32:51.750
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay yeah that's as someone that works full time that's good for me, too, because I can you know get on my day.

811
01:32:53.430 --> 01:32:54.090
Darryl DuFay: yeah do.

812
01:32:54.540 --> 01:33:07.860
Darryl DuFay: Yes, no oh i'm following through on the representation, because I went back on the three years and I see that we had 14 people 13 to 14 people.

813
01:33:08.490 --> 01:33:20.190
Darryl DuFay: And it hasn't been brought up to date and I wanted to send something to you what I just wanted to ask I have served Sergio his name down, but I don't know what area, he represents.

814
01:33:22.500 --> 01:33:26.340
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm Sergio was East Venice business community.

815
01:33:28.560 --> 01:33:31.530
Daffodil Tyminski: Right or Lincoln the Lincoln card or business community.

816
01:33:32.820 --> 01:33:37.770
Darryl DuFay: Lincoln cord or that you were talking about the block on both sides right Lincoln.

817
01:33:39.210 --> 01:33:42.090
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah I mean technically Sergio was from East Venice.

818
01:33:43.410 --> 01:33:53.430
Daffodil Tyminski: And i'll give everyone a brief background on this we I originally had thought Sergio was the East Venice person, and then it turns out he's Venice had actually put in.

819
01:33:54.390 --> 01:34:06.600
Daffodil Tyminski: William as well, who is on here, I think I in the beginning, actually until this week I didn't have access to the back end of the dnc website so I didn't know that William had submitted his application it never made its way to me.

820
01:34:07.050 --> 01:34:11.190
Daffodil Tyminski: And when I realized that we now had two people from respect us, I was like well just.

821
01:34:11.250 --> 01:34:28.110
Daffodil Tyminski: let's both put you on because I know Sergio wanted to focus on the business community which frankly along Lincoln is is way more uptown think it has been in your past and they do have some unique to us at being again small business owners so.

822
01:34:28.620 --> 01:34:30.810
Darryl DuFay: So William and so William is east.

823
01:34:31.020 --> 01:34:34.650
Darryl DuFay: East coast, I had them down itself and so okay.

824
01:34:35.430 --> 01:34:40.320
Daffodil Tyminski: Now, William esophagus and then we have a few more people that are coming on this month.

825
01:34:40.470 --> 01:34:43.710
Darryl DuFay: That will go next well that's fine, I just wanted to ask him, I just.

826
01:34:44.370 --> 01:34:53.310
Daffodil Tyminski: just keep out and then I will then I will build out the website, because now actually have access to it that I can go down there and fix up the neighborhood committee page.

827
01:34:55.380 --> 01:34:56.790
Daffodil Tyminski: there's a lot of old stuff on there.

828
01:34:56.970 --> 01:35:01.980
Darryl DuFay: yeah because one of the things I wouldn't mention is, please take off by on the lagoon.

829
01:35:03.450 --> 01:35:04.710
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, understood.

830
01:35:05.310 --> 01:35:05.700
Darryl DuFay: got it.

831
01:35:06.150 --> 01:35:08.160
Daffodil Tyminski: I said i'll be i'll work on.

832
01:35:08.700 --> 01:35:09.090
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you.

833
01:35:11.220 --> 01:35:11.910
Darryl DuFay: Okay you're.

834
01:35:11.970 --> 01:35:12.750
Welcome

835
01:35:14.310 --> 01:35:25.080
Daffodil Tyminski: anyone else, if not i'm going to close the meeting, and again I encourage everyone to to go out and see what issues you think are important to the neighbors that we can do something about obviously we're limited in our.

836
01:35:26.370 --> 01:35:29.670
Daffodil Tyminski: capabilities, but we're not capabilities, but.

837
01:35:30.240 --> 01:35:34.350
Yolanda Gonzalez: If we accomplished five things on this committee we're gold.

838
01:35:34.740 --> 01:35:36.630
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, make me feel better.

839
01:35:37.500 --> 01:35:41.820
Daffodil Tyminski: Alright guys we'll have a great day thanks for coming thanks to everyone in the public for attending.

840
01:35:43.980 --> 01:35:44.880
Daffodil Tyminski: Talk to you guys soon.

841
01:35:45.180 --> 01:35:46.050
Sergio Pérez: Happy holiday.

842
01:35:46.380 --> 01:35:47.310
Sergio Pérez: yeah you told me.

843
01:35:48.090 --> 01:35:48.630
Daffodil Tyminski: You to.