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james murez: Well i'm trying to promote people.

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james murez: Slowly but surely we're making progress.

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james murez: Clark, you have to accept when I try and promote you.

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james murez: Pretty funny vicki I can see a reflection in the background of a TV someplace.

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vickihalliday: i'm watching CNN.

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james murez: yeah I can see, I can see it in the background of your picture.

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again.

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james murez: Well, I have tried to half a dozen times to promote Clark doesn't look like he wants to join the meeting tonight.

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vickihalliday: Jim you'll also need to promote Adrian acosta and i'm Armando hogan when he gets there I see adrian's already here.

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Okay.

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Adrian Acosta: hey guys, good evening, can you hear me this is.

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vickihalliday: Adrian.

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Adrian Acosta: How are you.

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vickihalliday: Oh good I don't sleep and make it he called a little while ago.

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Adrian Acosta: yeah he just called me and I was planning on being here, anyway, so i'm all set, but I want to let you know.

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Adrian Acosta: The link that you had emailed me didn't work, so this is a backup phone, this is actually my personal phone that I checked out so i'm not even sure how it's labeled obviously it has my name because.

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vickihalliday: it's got your name on there.

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vickihalliday: yeah I know I sent you the agenda right.

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vickihalliday: So hopefully the agenda link works, but you got here that's all it matters.

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Adrian Acosta: i'm hearing ready to go.

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Daffodil Tyminski: hey TIM and staff, I think, to do some of this you're gonna have to make me Carlos.

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Daffodil Tyminski: and Robert I see you on there will promote you I just don't have the ability to do it yet.

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vickihalliday: See Robert Andrea Armando Clark.

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robertthibodeau: what's going on.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Close.

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robertthibodeau: We need 11.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Clark is on.

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Daffodil Tyminski: It looks like he's been promoted.

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robertthibodeau: 1-234-567-8910 11.

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Daffodil Tyminski: it'd be nice if we got a couple more people to.

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Daffodil Tyminski: There are some folks who I think are out of town one or two.

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robertthibodeau: soledad was going to be on I talked to her earlier today, so I know she was going to be.

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Daffodil Tyminski: On she's she's running late.

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robertthibodeau: yeah she had an apartment show or something.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I don't have the ability to do it.

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james murez: Okay we're just waiting for a few more board members to show up before we can start this meeting we don't have a quorum.

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vickihalliday: ahead and let Armando in please.

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Daffodil Tyminski: write ya know letting our mind knowing now.

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vickihalliday: So okay great.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Talking early in the meeting.

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james murez: i've tried to promote Jason sugars, but it's not going he has to.

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vickihalliday: he's on the screen.

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robertthibodeau: he's on the screen.

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james murez: Well there's a second Jason sugar still in the audience.

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robertthibodeau: Oh interesting.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah Jason are you logged in twice, I know that there we go.

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james murez: Maybe he's trying both from this phone and also from.

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robertthibodeau: Others to jason's now.

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yeah.

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james murez: So Jason there should only be one of you.

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vickihalliday: there.

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robertthibodeau: We got.

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robertthibodeau: We got we got Mr sugars on see.

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background.

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robertthibodeau: We got NICO.

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robertthibodeau: Ivan is not a board member.

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robertthibodeau: Adrian is not a board members we've got 123456789.

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robertthibodeau: yeah 1111.

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james murez: let's give it another minute okay.

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james murez: i'm still getting text messages from people.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah I feel like 6pm is overall better in terms of the meeting, but it's the beginning a little iffy as people are getting off work and stuff.

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yeah.

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james murez: And some people are just not accustomed to it, I mean I got a text from allie that she'd forgotten that it.

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james murez: was starting at six.

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So.

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james murez: She says she's almost home, so it should be.

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vickihalliday: We need Melissa.

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james murez: and Melissa just texted me as well.

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Everyone ready for the holidays.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Yes.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Good.

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Andrea Boccaletti: For the rain to.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, me too i'm very excited for the rain, no.

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Nico Ruderman: Rain rain snow.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Although I just had my roof fixed and the last rain found out, it still leaks so.

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Andrea Boccaletti: we'll see what happens.

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Andrea Boccaletti: roofer i'm going.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Oh, I might actually.

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Andrea Boccaletti: really great.

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Welcome

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she's coming in.

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Alley Bean: hi I gotta go turn my lights just.

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Alley Bean: i'm in the dark.

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i'm letting you know.

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Mike Bravo: Thank you happy solstice to everybody here welcome.

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robertthibodeau: Jim I think you set the record for number of pages and an agenda.

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robertthibodeau: printed this out, I thought I was going to run out of paper.

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Andrea Boccaletti: that's also the new language from the city right of all the.

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yeah.

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robertthibodeau: yeah some of its just formatting.

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Andrea Boccaletti: But the new system that Jim has created is amazing.

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robertthibodeau: yeah it's gone it's been improving in general it's been good.

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Mike Bravo: it's a lot easier to read to thank you.

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james murez: So much everybody here it's currently got a lot of people in the audience tonight there's Melissa let's promote her.

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james murez: let's give it a couple more seconds here.

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Alley Bean: i'm so sorry i'm such a spouse I didn't realize it was it six so I may eat in the middle of all this.

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yeah no worries.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Well, we definitely have quorum now right.

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yeah.

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Daffodil Tyminski: No you're right.

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robertthibodeau: We should get started with the roll call, and the reports.

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james murez: yeah yeah can some if anybody's in the audience that is part of the committee, could you raise your hand at this point, so we can get started don't want to miss anybody, but the other hand, I think everybody that's here.

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james murez: I don't see.

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Nico Ruderman: I don't see anybody Jim I was living.

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james murez: There is one hand up.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Keith Harris who's on the.

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james murez: Julian he does on a committee so we'll leave him out in the audience for now Keith you can put your hand down for now.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah we're just looking for the board members.

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Nico Ruderman: yeah I don't say board members.

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james murez: Okay Let me close this screen here.

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james murez: Go to share screen.

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james murez: I have to find.

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james murez: Give me a second everybody I just got to get oriented here get this stuff all situated correctly.

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james murez: Okay, so I want to go.

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james murez: here.

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Very soon.

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james murez: Okay let's try this again it's not letting me share my screen so give me one second.

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james murez: There it is okay got it.

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james murez: Okay um I assume everybody can see the screen see my share so let's call the meeting to order.

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james murez: The first thing that I would like to do is.

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james murez: call a meeting to order in memory of Harland Lee are lonely passed away about a week ago.

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james murez: For those of you that don't know who Harland Lee was he's a longtime resident that developed his company here, you had a development company that he he actually built over many years in Venice.

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james murez: he's credited for having developed the Crown the clown building and Commission the that piece of art, the borowski clown on the front of the building above the CPS.

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james murez: He also put voluntarily put 22 permanent affordable senior housing units into that building that are still there today and everybody that.

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james murez: lives in those is very much enjoying them.

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james murez: He also got me involved originally in street tree planting he was he created a fundraiser was over at the DC three.

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james murez: Over at the Santa Monica airport did a big fundraising effort and got 250 people all chip in money to plant trees on rose, and that was the first major tree planting that had occurred in Venice.

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james murez: since the days of of advocating planting palm trees along the streets, that was a big thing to me certainly changed my life.

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james murez: And he was also involved in the original creation of the farmers market he kind of was all over town, he was really a guy that put a lot of effort into making the Community a lot better than it was before he came and and, as far as the arts go, I mean, besides the borowski clown.

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james murez: He participated, for many, many, many years and supporting the Venice art walk and a lot of the local artists and and.

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james murez: You should be remembered for all these great things that he did, for those of you that don't know I think it's a lot of the.

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james murez: westlake village in thousand oaks and all those areas out there, he built thousands of houses out in the valley and around the California throughout the country they just an unbelievably amazing guy so he's going to be very much miss, and I wanted to.

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james murez: You know, open the meeting and dedicated memory to hardware.

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james murez: So let's look let's keep going on.

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james murez: Oh, this shouldn't happen anymore I hope.

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james murez: So what happens every time I click on these buttons it records the time of one we're moving along let's now I guess it's going to do you see the screen pop up maybe you do okay so i'm going to do the roll call i'm going to take the the part of.

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james murez: Taking the Minutes tonight, because this is new and alyssa really doesn't have full experience yet and doing this in time will pass it off, and all the committee's will be able to do it you'll understand more about how it works.

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james murez: i'm not going to go into a lot of detail about it tonight, but I will start the roll call so James miras is here.

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james murez: Andreas are you here.

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james murez: Bruno.

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james murez: Not here.

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james murez: Jim James rob.

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here.

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james murez: alley been.

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james murez: Here soledad.

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james murez: Know Sola dad Elizabeth clay yeah.

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james murez: daffodil.

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here.

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james murez: leak.

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james murez: seema.

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james murez: Stan.

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james murez: Chi.

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james murez: cj here, Robert.

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james murez: Robert.

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robertthibodeau: Sorry fingers slipped here.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, and Kai is here, I admitted her.

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james murez: So.

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Daffodil Tyminski: She just must not be responding.

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james murez: Well, as soon as she responds will check her in Melissa.

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james murez: Melissa.

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melissadiner: i'm here.

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james murez: Thank you vicki.

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james murez: Here NICO.

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james murez: Jason.

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present.

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james murez: Mike.

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james murez: Here Oliver Oliver is not going to be here, he called me and told me Clark.

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you're.

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james murez: Okay, to kind of show up.

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james murez: If anybody comes in late, please let me know, and I can change that moving right along.

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james murez: i'm going to keep.

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james murez: bringing this up, I guess i'll.

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james murez: have to figure that one out.

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james murez: Declaration an ex parte communications items conflicts of interest, I will start this off by saying that I did have communications over the past.

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james murez: Five or six years about the rezoning of various parts of the Community and i've had conversations with lots of different people about what occurred there over the years.

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james murez: I also talked to other people about other things that are on the calendar, but I think that just comes normal in the course of doing business anybody else.

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Daffodil Tyminski: it's def jam I raise my hand but I same thing i've had conversations with some of the stakeholders who were affected by the zoning issues on rose and elsewhere, as well as.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And this is going a few years back, but with some of the folks involved with the ground works.

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issue.

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james murez: Thank you.

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Alley Bean: um I don't show raise my hand.

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james murez: yeah you go ahead.

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Alley Bean: I don't know if this counts or not, but I have been in conversation with the planning department about.

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Alley Bean: zoning issues, just to educate myself, so I don't know if.

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Alley Bean: that's party or not, but for macpherson and the planning and not stakeholders, I don't know anybody at all that was.

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james murez: Okay, thank you, Melissa you have your hand up.

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melissadiner: yeah so we have a problem there is nowhere on this agenda where it allows us to approve the Minutes and the agenda and so Ivan I think you need to chime in here on that because i've never been in this situation without an agenda with that on here.

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james murez: um I was told that we do not have to approve the agenda any longer that's something that was introduced a few years ago, as part of a policy that they did.

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james murez: Voluntarily but there's no requirement for it.

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melissadiner: If there's no requirement that's fine if you're now changing that i've never he can, if someone wants to answer great if not move on.

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james murez: diving do you want to echo anything there you have to unmute yourself if you do, Melissa you want put your hand down.

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Ivan: Okay, there we are okay, am I in.

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Yes.

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Ivan: Is this about the Minutes for the approval of the agenda.

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james murez: Approval of the agenda.

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Ivan: Okay there's no requirement that you have to do it it's usually recommended for big conventions.

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Ivan: So everybody knows what page we're on but.

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Ivan: It started turning into a political right, you know, and so we decided to let it go, we don't have to do that.

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james murez: Thank you.

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james murez: Okay, any more ex parte communications from anyone raise your hand NICO you have your hand up go ahead.

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Nico Ruderman: No communications, but i'm within 500 feet of the.

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Nico Ruderman: Item 21 on sunset.

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james murez: Okay i'm.

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Mike Bravo: same here.

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james murez: Okay we'll have to you guys have to remind us as we get closer i'll make a note of it now in my list of.

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Mike Bravo: Things I believe it's all consent calendar, though, so i'm not sure if that even matters.

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james murez: Okay, any anybody else have any items, Melissa you have your hand up again NICO your fingers down.

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melissadiner: yeah just i'll i'll take that note German when we can beam so when you send if consent passes, just like I did in the Minutes that they were accused on that item.

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james murez: Okay, thank you that'd be very helpful.

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james murez: um okay let's move along.

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Alley Bean: feet of the gas station on Venice way Jim Am I that that's under.

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Alley Bean: No, no.

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james murez: Okay, thank you um public safety la PD and La fd do we have participants were on to Item number five.

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vickihalliday: We have Adrian.

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vickihalliday: For lapd and our Monday really empty.

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james murez: I can't see my whole screen distributions over there, we go, so does somebody want to start there who.

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Adrian Acosta: Will jerk and good evening everybody, this is Dr Adrian acosta nearly officer for the oakland area Thank you so much for allowing me to present tonight.

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Adrian Acosta: monique will be back shortly within the next few weeks, Captain number call to another division today where he's doing an assignment, so you have me tonight.

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Adrian Acosta: want to go over prime numbers first, but I know first and tell us you guys always like to hear the stats.

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Adrian Acosta: So for the Venice beach area, the numbers continue to go down and that's always a positive now at 13.3% increase this year over last year, but if you remember, in the summer and that number was somewhere and then in the neighborhood of 60% so obviously all the work that.

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Adrian Acosta: All the partnerships that have been created at the beach is coming to fruition and really, really a shout out to the beach officers, the lapd officers that have put in the time and the effort.

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Adrian Acosta: Down there to reduce crime, what we have seen, however, is some of that crime, especially like kind of the low hanging fruit, especially under property crimes.

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Adrian Acosta: bleeding out into the neighborhoods and my car basic RD 13 the oakland area seen a 34% increase this year over last year what's driving those numbers, again, is the.

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Adrian Acosta: Is the property crimes mainly grand theft auto and burglary motor vehicles are the ones that are really, really driving my numbers, so what we've been trying to do through our block captain's through our.

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Adrian Acosta: See pad me please Advisory Board is get the word out because property crime is truly a.

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Adrian Acosta: Partnership with the citizens, as far as you know, locking your bikes closing your garage doors locking your homes like i'm closing your windows, as the.

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Adrian Acosta: As the weather gets colder we do see a reduction in some of these crimes, but we still have a high volume of open garage burglaries open business.

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Adrian Acosta: Storage room type burglary so Those are some of the numbers that we're trying to push down in this last couple weeks of the year overall Pacific division is.

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Adrian Acosta: showing an increase of 12.9% for the year, that is, a total of 887 more crimes, this year, as opposed to last year, so what does that mean 95 more violent crimes this year.

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Adrian Acosta: 792 more property crimes seem kind of see what's driving our numbers at the civic and it's definitely the property crime ending so we like to say that we are responsible for the violent crime reduction.

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Adrian Acosta: To to reduce property crime again it's a partnership with the police and the citizens of business owners and a lot of times it's just awareness, overall, where do we stand.

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Adrian Acosta: By the crime we were number 13 out of 21 divisions property crime we are number 19 out of 21 divisions so overall that puts us at 19 rent out of.

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Adrian Acosta: led geographic division.

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Adrian Acosta: So some things I wanted to touch on.

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Adrian Acosta: what's been.

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Adrian Acosta: Real heavy in the news lately as the smash and grab robberies.

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Adrian Acosta: I met with the Director of security for advocacy probably about two months ago with Elisa James as well, when we started and we.

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Adrian Acosta: made all the business owners aware of the potential for problems happening, and the idea behind that was.

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Adrian Acosta: You know, to to everyone, or said we don't want this to turn into melrose we don't want those types of things happening last Monday, we had a more formal meeting with the Venice sorry what the Abbot kinney merchants association.

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Adrian Acosta: And in that meeting, we talked about.

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Adrian Acosta: The smash and grab robberies and some of the things to look for, but what we've done on our end is we've increased put beats along with Kenny, maybe some of you have seen this out there, I know, along.

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Adrian Acosta: With my yearly partners, we were out there twice last week walking basically from Venice down to maine and back.

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Adrian Acosta: you've seen an increase patrol presence from our patrol partners, both in the late afternoon and nights, which is the most popular time for those types of crimes so hopefully as of now, we have not seen any smash and grab robberies we'd have seen some late night burglaries.

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Adrian Acosta: In the storage rooms and such in some of the businesses, but no smash and grab robberies and again that's been somewhat of a project of mine.

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Adrian Acosta: Some Community Community events that we've experienced over the last couple weeks, we had the muscle beach toy drive.

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Adrian Acosta: And thanks to Joe wheatley and our partners at parks and recreation, it was the biggest toy drive.

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Adrian Acosta: In the history of their event, and I believe they've been doing that for about 12 or 13 years, so thank you to Joe wheatley some of those toys locally were donated.

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Adrian Acosta: To the oakland REC recreation Center through Keith rice and through our housing and urban development apartments through fabiola bonnie altos, and so we were able to make sure that no kids participate in those programs with this Christmas without toys.

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Adrian Acosta: So that's a testament to you guys, you and your neighbors that participated.

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Adrian Acosta: In the various toy drives, such as the muscle muscle beach toy toy drive and the various boxes that we put out throughout the neighborhoods.

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Adrian Acosta: You got all we did was we were just the middleman we just had him out you guys, are the ones that donated so thank you.

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Adrian Acosta: And i'll use this forum in closing to recognize a couple people every year we do a lot of Community events and a lot of things to help our officers to let them know that they're important one of the things we do every thanksgiving is an officer appreciation dinner and to have our.

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Adrian Acosta: Two people close to this board George Francisco and vicki participated in that dinner, and I want to recognize them here in front of the board, and thank you both.

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Adrian Acosta: For coming and donating your time and a busy season and and recognizing the officers and all that they do so thank you very much, I don't know if you guys want to do questions now or whatever, but that's the end of my presentation.

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james murez: i'm know why don't we hold off questions we don't like usually take questions on presentations and we appreciate you coming, and we want to make this any longer than.

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james murez: We have taking your time, but if people have questions, we should have them submit them ahead of time in writing and then we can give them to you in advance notice, you can have the material available.

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james murez: On that note, thank you for coming, and thank you vicki and George for making our officers feel welcome in the Community it's great.

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Adrian Acosta: pleasure, can I add.

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Adrian Acosta: me, can I add to real quick i'll just i'm sure, maybe it's in the agenda, let me just leave my serial number of some comments or questions come up be happy to answer any emails that you guys might have be in tomorrow morning at 5am my serial number is 37285 at lapd online.

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james murez: Thank you, Adrian appreciate it.

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vickihalliday: Thank you.

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james murez: amanda you want to go ahead.

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Armando Hogan: Yes, thank you so much, James I appreciate it, and I also want to reach out to vicki and say thank you for her kindness and allowing me to participate.

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Armando Hogan: In these meetings, because it's always informative and I appreciate the feedback that I get.

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Armando Hogan: Also i'd like to start by wishing all of you a very safe holiday season, I hope, things are going well for all of you and your families.

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Armando Hogan: So, very quickly, talking about statistics i'll follow up Adrian on the lead that was put out there, I just give you a list of things, and this is just from the past six months.

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Armando Hogan: Because I just want to give you a snapshot of what we're looking at and how we're trying to focus our resources in the Venice area so.

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Armando Hogan: Since June 1 after our pH program left and moved over into Hollywood since that time structure fires we've had 22, and this is just in a fire station.

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Armando Hogan: district, which is principally who gives you the service there in the Venice area auto fires, we had 18.

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Armando Hogan: And then in our rubbish fires, it shows 148 but i'm going to challenge that Stat because that sounds like a lot but.

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Armando Hogan: i'll have to look into and i'll speak with my local vcs and i'll send vicki an email to let you guys know if that's accurate or not.

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Armando Hogan: tree fires we've only had about three, which is a pretty good over on rose we used to have that concern.

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Armando Hogan: There, but we've gotten great cooperation from reckoned parks and they have assisted us in that endeavor.

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Armando Hogan: and legal burnings which is usually the warming fires cooking fires things of that nature we've only had 10.

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Armando Hogan: So i'm very happy to see that that is trending down in the past six months.

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Armando Hogan: And then fire out so fires out, for example, could be a reporting structure call it could be reported rubbish fire our resources respond there and it was out on their arrival we've had three of those.

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Armando Hogan: pole fires we've had three so for the most part, our responses there as it relates to fires has dropped when the only thing that looks like it's still very high is the.

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Armando Hogan: rubbish fire, so I want to look into that and see if that's encampment based or what that possibly is.

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Armando Hogan: Next, I want to talk about, as I mentioned before, our pH or persons experiencing homeless project.

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Armando Hogan: We have now been asked by culver city to assist them as well, for some of those areas where it's kind of like a triangulation between la city la county and then culver city so right underneath the.

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Armando Hogan: I want to say, the city nella overpass there, there has been a individual there that was creating a little bit of a challenge, I realize it's a little bit outside.

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Armando Hogan: Of the Venice area, but my point here is to share with you that, because of the success that we've had with the pH Program.

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Armando Hogan: Other departments have reached out to us to see how we can all be a force multiplier and then kind of help each other as it relates to resources.

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Armando Hogan: So what we're looking to do there is, we set up a couple meetings and I met with my partners there at culver city and La county.

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Armando Hogan: And we're looking at trying to make sure that we maintain a presence and basically what that will look like is in our Fr V or fast response vehicle.

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Armando Hogan: We will have individuals being able to patrol and their whole goal that they'll do for about a 10 hour span.

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Armando Hogan: is just be out they won't return back to quarters they'll just be out to make sure that we're raising awareness, being a deterrent.

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Armando Hogan: And most importantly, if there are fires if they put them out as quickly as possible, or we take that opportunity to educate individuals.

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Armando Hogan: So that we don't create a disgruntled individual and they go off and do something else that can end up being crime related.

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Armando Hogan: Next, talk a little bit about our therapeutic van project that we're trying to get off the ground we're going to start the project in downtown la.

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Armando Hogan: There near the skid row area and then we're going to move it to different areas so it'll be out in the Mar vista area but will it will patrol or have the ability to patrol.

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Armando Hogan: All the Venice and basically what we're looking to do is probably about 50,000 of city responses had to do with the.

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Armando Hogan: mentally challenged, so what we're looking as we work with lapd to get a determination on what's one of the best things that we can do that, we don't have fire resources responding or lapd responding and we get the.

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Armando Hogan: professionals who are best equipped to handle these types of circumstances, so what we will what we're still exploring is whether or not we want to put a paramedic.

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Armando Hogan: On that resource because it's not a transport resource so we'll have to look to see what that is going to entail.

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Armando Hogan: But right now that is still being discussed we're still looking at where we house them, so we were going to have these individuals who are civilians in the fire stations.

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Armando Hogan: There was some talk back and forth about that about some of the challenges facing there, how would they be dispatched and so forth, so we're looking at putting them at what we call.

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Armando Hogan: Our regional fire stations where we have the really big lots in the back in that way, we can put a basically like temporary.

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Armando Hogan: Housing there for them, and they can respond right out and it will be 24 hours, meaning there'll be 212 hour shifts so what we're looking to do is see how we can get.

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Armando Hogan: The folks challenge with mental health issues, the best service possible but also keeping our fire and police resources.

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Armando Hogan: free to be able to address other aspects in the Community as it relates to either crime, fires and things of that nature so i'll be able to give you an update.

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Armando Hogan: In the coming months of where we are on that that's our therapeutic van project.

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Armando Hogan: And then, lastly, just to talk a little bit about vaccinations I know you've seen a lot in the papers about what's been going on.

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Armando Hogan: With the fire department and, in particular in the city right now we're at about 84.25% vaccinated.

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Armando Hogan: I see more and more folks coming into compliance will call it, as it relates to the vaccinations and for the most part, our goal is to make sure that there is no drop off in service.

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Armando Hogan: So we'll continue to staff resources as need be, and most importantly, will be there to respond at a moment's notice and, if anything, on that changes.

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Armando Hogan: I will share that with you as well, so outside of that that is my report to you all i'll be doing a press conference tomorrow with Council member of pharaoh regarding Christmas tree I apologize, excuse me.

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Armando Hogan: Christmas tree disposal, and so I will share that information with you all to post that.

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Armando Hogan: post that press event so other than that Thank you all for the opportunity to spend time this evening once again Merry Christmas Happy New Year, please be safe, and I wish you and your families my absolute best.

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james murez: Thank you very.

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james murez: Thank you very much um somebody mentioned that a leaks folks you got it okay good Thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: joined the little guy who's joining.

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james murez: yeah I already I already logged in soledad let me.

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james murez: Let me go back.

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Daffodil Tyminski: and noting it for the record 630.

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james murez: The the system also knows how to keep track of it so as soon as I die I already checked in solar dead when I let her in, let me find.

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james murez: A leaks is here, somewhere, there you are great.

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james murez: Okay let's move down to.

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james murez: That it.

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Nico Ruderman: looks like she's on to.

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james murez: Show sorry.

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Nico Ruderman: Guy looks like she's on to.

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james murez: hear you Oh, did I not check that already okay there we go.

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Chie Lunn: Can you guys hear me okay.

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Chie Lunn: Yes, okay.

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james murez: Okay government reports is there anybody here from.

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james murez: Oh, let me before we go into government reports, let me say that Senator Ben Allen is expected this evening he's not expected However, until about eight o'clock when he arrives will interrupt our meeting agenda to allow him.

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james murez: time to speak questions were submitted to him in advance that were available at add calm and and if we're in the middle of an item will wait until we finished the item to let him in and and then before we start the next item.

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james murez: he'll he'll have the opportunity to go i'm having said that.

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james murez: Do we see any hands raised from any of the other government reports.

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Daffodil Tyminski: The county and they're not Jim.

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james murez: Ted Lou.

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james murez: autumn burke's office is Freddie here.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Now, I do not see Freddie I do not see.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Any other government folks.

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james murez: let's just let me do this, let me check that one off.

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james murez: And that's going to tell it that it wants to save again I gotta keep saving these there we go Okay, so now we're on to committee reports budget and finance.

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james murez: We can keep it real brief if you have anything nothing okay.

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Andrea Boccaletti: I, yes, I have, I have things I mean wait, this is oh sorry, this is not.

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james murez: This is, this is something in the future that's coming up, do you want to make everybody aware before the day.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Right now it's time I thought it was my report, but I just out there, looking for more Members to be part of the budget and Finance Committee, so if you want to be a part of that please reach out to me a treasurer at tennis nc.org Thank you.

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james murez: Okay Alex do you have anything it's coming up in the future that you want to make everybody aware of.

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Alix: Yes, I do so, as some of you all know, we had to land use bills passed in in the fall sb nine and sb 10 these are state bills, but they will have far reaching implications on.

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Alix: on land use all over the state, and especially in Los Angeles, and in West la for sure sb 10 I think there's a lawsuit against it right now in sb nine they're trying to figure out how to implement it in Los Angeles so there's a.

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Alix: county council file and the Council file is 21 1414 it's blue schiano's think it's mosquitoes motion to double check.

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Alix: Anyway, it's about it's it's a it's a motion on how sb nine should be implemented and we will be discussing this probably at loop hack at the top of the year to get it onto the January board meeting, so I wouldn't make everyone aware of that and then lastly last week.

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Alix: came to pack and presented some of their ideas for oakland and I can tell you that all of us on the Committee.

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Alix: we're really fascinated to hear what these young minds have to say, Jim I believe you were there as well, to this is recorded if anyone's interested in how young people are thinking about about the development of Venice, I urge you to take a look at that as well to that is all.

364
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james murez: Thank you yeah that the recording but so everybody knows is that's available under the.

365
00:42:49.740 --> 00:42:52.320
james murez: supporting documents on the loot pack webpage.

366
00:42:54.270 --> 00:43:05.520
Alix: And if anyone has questions for me on anything I just covered, as always, please feel free to reach out to me chair dash Lou packet that is nc.org and many of you have my phone number, so you know i'm pretty accessible thanks.

367
00:43:06.480 --> 00:43:06.960
james murez: Okay.

368
00:43:07.200 --> 00:43:11.280
james murez: neighborhoods do you have anything that you want to share anything coming up in the future.

369
00:43:11.880 --> 00:43:24.570
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah nothing immediate at the moment I would encourage everyone in your respective neighborhoods if you have issues you'd like us to address to please let me know we do have a bunch of things, planned for 2022 but nothing urgent that we need to spend time today.

370
00:43:25.020 --> 00:43:27.810
james murez: Thank you ocean prob walk anything special coming up.

371
00:43:28.350 --> 00:43:36.630
james robb: I want to thank you guys for all the motions, we got on this tonight's agenda, thank you and our next meeting will be the 24th of January.

372
00:43:37.650 --> 00:43:50.340
james robb: We may do a joint meeting with Tupac talking about the Venice Community plan as it pertains to the boardwalk and a couple other things in the process, but that's about it.

373
00:43:50.730 --> 00:43:54.510
james murez: Thank you, Jim Is anybody here from outreach to see my show up.

374
00:43:55.950 --> 00:43:57.630
Alix: Now she's traveling Jim I believe.

375
00:43:57.840 --> 00:44:01.050
james murez: yeah okay well, she said she was going to try and make it rules and selections.

376
00:44:01.500 --> 00:44:07.110
james murez: he's not here also out of town anybody here from arts Bruno are you here.

377
00:44:08.310 --> 00:44:19.080
james murez: Okay um the resiliency Committee, I know that let's see daffodil do you want to let Keith in and do we have is frank here.

378
00:44:19.860 --> 00:44:21.000
Daffodil Tyminski: Short Keith.

379
00:44:21.000 --> 00:44:25.080
james murez: Meantime why don't we go down to parking and transportation Robert do you have anything you want to share.

380
00:44:27.450 --> 00:44:30.330
james murez: And do we have anybody here from the arbor committee.

381
00:44:31.830 --> 00:44:33.780
james murez: or from the discussion forum committee.

382
00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:36.480
robertthibodeau: i'm here from Berkeley and transportation.

383
00:44:36.840 --> 00:44:43.140
james murez: You have anything special you want to share it's coming up and before next month, the next month board meeting being special nothing.

384
00:44:43.590 --> 00:44:47.520
robertthibodeau: I guess for trying to reach out to RON Gallup friends office to.

385
00:44:48.810 --> 00:44:51.780
robertthibodeau: see if we can squeeze some money out for Venice for.

386
00:44:52.950 --> 00:44:58.410
robertthibodeau: For improvements for infrastructure improvements specifically like sidewalk curb repair type stuff.

387
00:44:58.740 --> 00:44:59.160
Okay.

388
00:45:01.020 --> 00:45:01.350
james murez: Good.

389
00:45:02.250 --> 00:45:06.450
robertthibodeau: yeah that's that's one thing that's going on but yeah come to our meetings.

390
00:45:06.660 --> 00:45:09.000
james murez: Thank you um did Keith make it in.

391
00:45:09.870 --> 00:45:12.450
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, Keith should be in and frank Murphy should be in.

392
00:45:12.570 --> 00:45:18.360
james murez: Keith you want to go ahead, do you have anything you want to share with us what's happening in the next month i'm in resiliency.

393
00:45:20.520 --> 00:45:21.870
james murez: Anything especially gotta unmute.

394
00:45:25.200 --> 00:45:26.340
james murez: cam and assume not.

395
00:45:28.260 --> 00:45:29.010
Keith Harrison: Hello Hello.

396
00:45:29.160 --> 00:45:30.300
james murez: yeah go ahead, go ahead.

397
00:45:30.810 --> 00:45:39.540
Keith Harrison: Okay, yes, we continued work on the emergency preparedness Town Hall for the end of February.

398
00:45:40.530 --> 00:45:49.950
Keith Harrison: we're lining up speakers or wait working with parks and REC right now to hear back for them on the approval of oakwood REC Center is the location.

399
00:45:50.460 --> 00:46:01.290
Keith Harrison: Again, all this is pending health department on on on coven restrictions so we're moving forward and looking forward to your support on the budget item on the agenda.

400
00:46:02.010 --> 00:46:07.860
james murez: Thank you um do you say frank was here frank, you have anything special you want to share with us.

401
00:46:10.560 --> 00:46:25.830
frank murphy: To step we're going to we won't be having the December meeting in between Christmas and New year's but we might attempt to have two meetings, the next scheduled meeting is for the last Tuesday of January.

402
00:46:26.910 --> 00:46:31.440
james murez: Okay did anybody from the arbor committee make it tonight.

403
00:46:33.270 --> 00:46:34.470
james murez: Isabel are you here.

404
00:46:35.670 --> 00:46:37.380
james murez: After we seal isabel's hand up.

405
00:46:37.860 --> 00:46:39.930
Daffodil Tyminski: I do not see Isabel here.

406
00:46:40.140 --> 00:46:42.840
james murez: All right, what about Noel I do not see no.

407
00:46:43.080 --> 00:46:50.550
james murez: Okay well either Okay, no hands up from from the other piece okay so and is Joe Murphy here.

408
00:46:51.300 --> 00:46:51.990
Daffodil Tyminski: Joe is not.

409
00:46:52.320 --> 00:47:07.680
james murez: Okay, all right, well, I know that these people are all working on stuff Joe just asked for a zoom link so i'll see a definite Oh, can you let stand Mohammed, and he just texted me who's here yeah I see Thank you Okay, so let me give my Presidents report as quickly as possible.

410
00:47:08.760 --> 00:47:11.850
james murez: As you can all see this agenda format is new.

411
00:47:13.620 --> 00:47:22.110
james murez: The the concept is is that that we're going to remove a lot of the tedious errors that used to happen people's phone numbers being published and.

412
00:47:22.350 --> 00:47:27.120
james murez: Things not always looking as they tidy as they should we're going to try and get into a standard format.

413
00:47:27.720 --> 00:47:31.770
james murez: Tonight, there are a few glitches that we have to work through, we have to be patient.

414
00:47:32.280 --> 00:47:39.120
james murez: Things that we know after the fact of having gone over this once in rehearsal that there's a couple things that need to be corrected.

415
00:47:39.840 --> 00:47:47.940
james murez: So i'll just mention a couple of those now the consent items are going to be items numbered 14 through 18 and i've highlighted that on the agenda.

416
00:47:48.570 --> 00:48:09.450
james murez: For for the general consent calendar and item 19 where its consent for loop pack those will be items number 20 and 22 I believe 23 was dropped, because it was a duplicate somehow to agenda requests got submitted on the same item I think 21 and 22 where the duplicates.

417
00:48:11.820 --> 00:48:28.620
james murez: And number 32, I believe, is going to be tabled due to legality issues there's some issues that have come up that that we need to talk to the city attorney about before we can move forward on that one other than that I want to mention.

418
00:48:28.650 --> 00:48:30.720
Alix: This one is that which one is that Jeff sorry.

419
00:48:31.020 --> 00:48:33.000
james murez: I believe it's 32.

420
00:48:34.380 --> 00:48:35.700
Alley Bean: valid violations.

421
00:48:35.760 --> 00:48:51.960
james murez: yeah the about the valley violation there's been some complaints in the Community already and I have to deal with it with a city attorney we can't get into it tonight, it would be a conflict for the for the board to engage in that one i'm afraid, at least at this point it's not clear.

422
00:48:52.290 --> 00:48:53.550
we'll put it off a monkey.

423
00:48:56.910 --> 00:49:05.220
james murez: The The other thing I wanted to say is there have been some major changes, although they may look very slight on the agenda request system.

424
00:49:05.580 --> 00:49:18.180
james murez: The agenda request system in the past was always designed for people to be able to submit agenda request, but it never really said, where the agenda request was coming from, so the system now supports.

425
00:49:19.500 --> 00:49:25.590
james murez: Where the agenda request is coming from, in addition to where the request is being directed to.

426
00:49:26.400 --> 00:49:32.640
james murez: All of the information on this agenda that you're looking at tonight is being imported from the agenda request system.

427
00:49:32.880 --> 00:49:48.270
james murez: So it's going to be very important for the chairs and for the public when they input agenda request to please input them into the correct fields, so that, for instance, now there's a field for what is the description of the item versus what is the motion of the item.

428
00:49:49.980 --> 00:49:54.330
james murez: And and there's also a place where the distribution of who the.

429
00:49:55.170 --> 00:50:08.580
james murez: Item is supposed to be sent to there's a special box for that, so we need all these boxes filled in if anybody has questions feel free to reach out and ask me, I will also be creating a couple of short videos that will hopefully hopefully help people walk through those.

430
00:50:10.170 --> 00:50:18.810
james murez: And having said that, I think that's the end of my report for tonight if anybody has questions about how this system works i'd be happy to talk to them offline about it.

431
00:50:19.170 --> 00:50:23.100
james murez: And this little green arrow this little green clock up at the top, each time I click on that.

432
00:50:24.000 --> 00:50:39.450
james murez: It records the time so we're now at 644 and it lets me save a file locally as a temp file and i've already had a request that this should be moved to being stored online, so we can have more than one person do it, having said that let's move on to Item number eight.

433
00:50:39.810 --> 00:50:41.490
melissadiner: Can I say one thing really quick.

434
00:50:41.640 --> 00:50:42.510
james murez: Yes, absolutely.

435
00:50:43.320 --> 00:50:49.050
melissadiner: I just want to bring up that we're already in December, it sounds like January we can't take off.

436
00:50:49.590 --> 00:51:02.250
melissadiner: And I think at this point cove is not going away, we need to just schedule an online training identify a person, we want to lead it to help us outline our goals, since we're already basically six months in.

437
00:51:02.820 --> 00:51:15.030
melissadiner: And figure out what we want to do that as soon as possible, like February, March, maybe we take the month off, but if anyone has any ideas that can help us with that and we can sync with Sema to get some funds.

438
00:51:15.330 --> 00:51:21.720
melissadiner: Maybe we can still go out afterwards, for people that want to still meet up, but I think we have to do a training.

439
00:51:22.470 --> 00:51:28.530
james murez: And when you say training you're referring to sort of like an orientation and everybody's getting on the same page knowing where everybody else is going.

440
00:51:28.650 --> 00:51:37.920
melissadiner: orient training or orientation and also just like goals like what do we want to achieve during our term that I thought was valuable last time and will be.

441
00:51:38.550 --> 00:51:38.820
james murez: You know.

442
00:51:39.210 --> 00:51:43.770
melissadiner: something to get on the same page, so we can talk about it more offline, but I think we should pick.

443
00:51:43.770 --> 00:51:47.670
melissadiner: A date soon, because otherwise it's going to be summer before we know it.

444
00:51:48.090 --> 00:51:50.340
Alix: Like retreat Melissa collette correct.

445
00:51:50.730 --> 00:51:52.980
melissadiner: Exactly exactly yeah.

446
00:51:53.010 --> 00:51:55.800
james murez: Okay yeah love what you make a note of that in the Minutes that you're keeping.

447
00:51:56.130 --> 00:52:03.120
james murez: And we'll move on with that Okay, so now we're going to get into the first motion item that we're going to be taking on tonight.

448
00:52:04.770 --> 00:52:10.500
james murez: We need a maker of the motion address this is your committee, you want to make the motion.

449
00:52:11.310 --> 00:52:12.810
Andrea Boccaletti: shall make the most sense to.

450
00:52:15.180 --> 00:52:17.790
Andrea Boccaletti: approve the October monthly expenditure report.

451
00:52:18.300 --> 00:52:19.410
james murez: And can I get a second on.

452
00:52:19.410 --> 00:52:19.590
That.

453
00:52:20.670 --> 00:52:21.090
Nico Ruderman: Second.

454
00:52:22.680 --> 00:52:28.680
james murez: Okay, so you can see i'm starting to record these things okay now let's move into.

455
00:52:30.450 --> 00:52:32.610
james murez: The presentation of the report, if you would please.

456
00:52:32.940 --> 00:52:34.950
Andrea Boccaletti: Okay, to allow me to share my screen.

457
00:52:36.240 --> 00:52:45.150
james murez: Yes, I need to oh that's a good point i'm going to stop sharing mine and make it possible for anybody who needs to share screens oops wrong button.

458
00:52:46.560 --> 00:52:48.030
The one second click.

459
00:52:50.040 --> 00:52:55.950
james murez: configuration thing here in zoom Okay, you should now be able to share your screen okay.

460
00:53:06.090 --> 00:53:08.040
Andrea Boccaletti: Okay, so.

461
00:53:09.330 --> 00:53:24.720
Andrea Boccaletti: We had a beginning balance, this is October October of 40,960 $67 and 78 cents, we spent a total of $2,333 and 80 cents and.

462
00:53:26.640 --> 00:53:46.080
Andrea Boccaletti: We have a remaining balance we have an outstanding balance of 230 40 which I don't understand because I think it's it is listed here it's it's still listed as an extent standing expected so expenditure there so anyway, we have a net available balance of $38,404 and 30 cents.

463
00:53:47.790 --> 00:53:51.210
Andrea Boccaletti: Just going down into the receipts, you can see here.

464
00:53:52.800 --> 00:54:05.640
Andrea Boccaletti: web corner, which is our monthly web support it was $450 it was three different bills being paid all at once, because if you all remember it took a while for me to get the credit card.

465
00:54:06.300 --> 00:54:19.140
Andrea Boccaletti: being that it was the first time that had finished and just it should just somebody new in 10 years and then we have constant contact, which is our email we had some Facebook ads for outreach committee.

466
00:54:20.820 --> 00:54:28.860
Andrea Boccaletti: Hard drives for administrative for Jim and the creation of this whole program that we're starting to use now.

467
00:54:30.090 --> 00:54:36.600
Andrea Boccaletti: The paid the post office boxes for land use and planning Commission committee for the whole year.

468
00:54:37.680 --> 00:54:38.250
Andrea Boccaletti: and

469
00:54:39.720 --> 00:54:47.430
Andrea Boccaletti: And then these outstanding apple one employment services bills that were back from before I took over as treasurer.

470
00:54:48.180 --> 00:55:00.000
Andrea Boccaletti: Because you're probably tired of hearing about, but hopefully we will not see them again now, after this month, so that's it they're being paid and sure you know everyone can see that all the receipts are down there.

471
00:55:02.700 --> 00:55:04.740
Andrea Boccaletti: So open it to public comment.

472
00:55:05.160 --> 00:55:05.970
james murez: yeah let me.

473
00:55:07.410 --> 00:55:12.120
james murez: Let me see if we have any public comment now mmm hmm.

474
00:55:14.370 --> 00:55:15.180
james murez: We have this cool.

475
00:55:15.690 --> 00:55:21.630
Daffodil Tyminski: We have Bruno who's trying to enter the meeting, and we have goat puppet and Helen fallon, of course.

476
00:55:21.630 --> 00:55:25.770
james murez: So let me, let me black Bruno in a lot he's gone.

477
00:55:26.010 --> 00:55:27.060
Daffodil Tyminski: No, I already let him in.

478
00:55:27.210 --> 00:55:32.010
james murez: Alright, are you, for the record, so it's on the zoom do you want to go through the.

479
00:55:34.080 --> 00:55:37.740
james murez: Through the the public comment list sure okay.

480
00:55:38.220 --> 00:55:43.620
Daffodil Tyminski: Sure, and by the way we have good puppet and Helen fallon and Matthew sha.

481
00:55:43.950 --> 00:55:48.120
james murez: Yes, ma'am and we'll be closing public comment after Matthew Shaw.

482
00:55:48.330 --> 00:55:49.110
Andrea Boccaletti: he's having minute.

483
00:55:49.350 --> 00:55:55.020
Chie Lunn: Question should we be able to acknowledge the puppet with it's an appropriate name.

484
00:55:55.500 --> 00:55:56.070
Andrea Boccaletti: I agree.

485
00:55:56.670 --> 00:56:01.410
james murez: I mean the city, the city says he can use whatever alias he wants.

486
00:56:01.560 --> 00:56:03.450
Chie Lunn: So we gotta call him nigger then tonight.

487
00:56:05.400 --> 00:56:05.880
Daffodil Tyminski: I.

488
00:56:06.420 --> 00:56:06.690
Really.

489
00:56:09.600 --> 00:56:10.830
Chie Lunn: Serious leading.

490
00:56:10.980 --> 00:56:12.390
Daffodil Tyminski: i'll refer to him as a puppet.

491
00:56:13.530 --> 00:56:17.760
Alix: puppet has been at every planning meeting I think DAS and some of the other board members, she used to.

492
00:56:19.740 --> 00:56:19.980
Alix: Like.

493
00:56:23.340 --> 00:56:24.900
Ansar  Muhammad: Take offense to the to the N word.

494
00:56:25.170 --> 00:56:27.240
james murez: yeah that that's not a proper.

495
00:56:27.330 --> 00:56:28.860
Andrea Boccaletti: And I did to present right.

496
00:56:28.980 --> 00:56:29.790
Andrea Boccaletti: This is me off.

497
00:56:29.820 --> 00:56:33.300
james murez: We will not refer to him, using the N word we.

498
00:56:33.810 --> 00:56:35.400
james murez: refer to him as ghost puppet and.

499
00:56:35.400 --> 00:56:40.260
Chie Lunn: there's nothing he's using that as his name, he is the Christmas Negar are we addressing his name.

500
00:56:40.500 --> 00:56:42.180
Chie Lunn: Seriously, or not.

501
00:56:42.840 --> 00:56:44.820
soledad ursua: Why don't we let him turn on his camera.

502
00:56:44.820 --> 00:56:51.450
soledad ursua: So we can see the real face of bigotry if he's man enough to use that word, he should you know use this camera when he talks.

503
00:56:51.750 --> 00:56:52.680
Chie Lunn: yeah I agree.

504
00:56:53.160 --> 00:56:53.700
Nico Ruderman: I agree.

505
00:56:55.050 --> 00:57:03.570
james murez: it's not something that we have the authority to do i'm sorry everybody I don't disagree with you what he's doing is definitely not right, but.

506
00:57:03.930 --> 00:57:05.130
melissadiner: We have guidelines.

507
00:57:05.130 --> 00:57:06.720
melissadiner: We can choose to follow them.

508
00:57:06.720 --> 00:57:08.040
melissadiner: out at the last meeting for is.

509
00:57:08.040 --> 00:57:12.840
Daffodil Tyminski: Inappropriate speech, which I found to be inappropriate and what I would call a family friendly environment.

510
00:57:13.500 --> 00:57:15.150
Daffodil Tyminski: He complained to the city.

511
00:57:16.500 --> 00:57:19.170
Chie Lunn: hate crime crime speeches are okay now.

512
00:57:20.760 --> 00:57:22.170
melissadiner: We can collaborate online.

513
00:57:22.680 --> 00:57:26.910
Ansar  Muhammad: I don't think we should allow him to either speak if he's going to be using.

514
00:57:28.320 --> 00:57:45.300
Ansar  Muhammad: and work so i'm thinking about my ancestors out he went he went through so he's going to be on this lie on assume disrespecting black folk if he should even be allowed to speak period, whatever we have to do as board to deal with it, and we need to.

515
00:57:45.960 --> 00:57:54.360
Alix: stay, please do, and it would be the same thing if he had not seen behind his name he'd be kicked out of this meeting in a heartbeat so maybe guy.

516
00:57:54.960 --> 00:58:08.100
Alix: respectfully change his name on the screen because we've all can can agree, I think that the N word is not something that we we use it's considered hate crime, along with not seeing any other number of egregious words.

517
00:58:08.190 --> 00:58:09.180
Ansar  Muhammad: totally agree.

518
00:58:09.870 --> 00:58:20.160
Elizabeth Clay: Thank you, if we've acknowledged that it's wrong, which I think Jim I heard you say that it is egregious behavior then, why would we allow we have we can take a stance as a board.

519
00:58:20.550 --> 00:58:27.030
Elizabeth Clay: and take a position on this and you know we rarely do we go soft on these people, but this one has gone way too far.

520
00:58:27.270 --> 00:58:28.260
Chie Lunn: And we don't support you're.

521
00:58:28.710 --> 00:58:31.590
Chie Lunn: Thinking about we weren't supporting hate crimes period.

522
00:58:32.250 --> 00:58:32.640
james murez: will say.

523
00:58:32.730 --> 00:58:38.730
james murez: I need to see if freddie's here I don't know what legal right, we have to do that I just don't know i'm your.

524
00:58:39.480 --> 00:58:41.010
Chie Lunn: I hear you laugh, we have.

525
00:58:42.150 --> 00:58:43.680
Alix: I think we can decide we don't.

526
00:58:43.680 --> 00:58:44.490
Chie Lunn: Have a compromise.

527
00:58:45.450 --> 00:58:47.040
melissadiner: Because yeah.

528
00:58:47.340 --> 00:58:50.700
melissadiner: We are human beings don't accept that behavior period.

529
00:58:51.060 --> 00:58:51.750
Nico Ruderman: We make a motion.

530
00:58:52.170 --> 00:59:01.470
Daffodil Tyminski: guys guys guys guys, first of all, raise your hand to speak one, at a time I, I think we are all of the same mind on the same page here I don't think there's any dispute.

531
00:59:01.920 --> 00:59:14.760
Daffodil Tyminski: The issue that we have is that previously when we've been told by the city that no matter how extreme offensive and distasteful someone wants to be at these meetings, we have to accept it.

532
00:59:15.510 --> 00:59:31.560
Daffodil Tyminski: We can, as a board choose to reject his public comment i'm okay with that it would result in a grievance and potentially invalidating all of our actions tonight, so you know, again, maybe that's a statement unto itself, which is fine.

533
00:59:32.700 --> 00:59:39.630
Daffodil Tyminski: But I will say as a practical matter when goat puppet picks a moniker as he did.

534
00:59:39.900 --> 00:59:40.350
Ansar  Muhammad: All he.

535
00:59:40.380 --> 00:59:44.760
Daffodil Tyminski: Does is make himself kind of a laughingstock and useless right so.

536
00:59:45.870 --> 00:59:51.780
Daffodil Tyminski: nobody listens to what go puppet says when he tries to be this extreme or this offensive.

537
00:59:52.590 --> 01:00:01.230
Daffodil Tyminski: And I think we all agree that, when someone wants to name themselves that way there's, not a single person in the audience is going to listen to this person give them credence.

538
01:00:01.800 --> 01:00:15.060
Daffodil Tyminski: or give any way to what they say, but the legal issue my personal feeling, as a lawyer, is that we should not be condoning hate crime, we should not be allowing that we should not hate speech sorry.

539
01:00:17.730 --> 01:00:27.060
Daffodil Tyminski: The city attorney has overwritten my belief on that and I do not think that their opinion as well founded, but again I don't hold that position.

540
01:00:27.780 --> 01:00:37.500
james murez: I think if I, I just want to say I think if we want to have a meeting tonight, we have to allow him to do whatever he's going to do if he's off topic we're going to turn them off and and.

541
01:00:38.130 --> 01:00:45.000
james murez: If he starts lashing out at people with with hate hate crimes towards individuals, because of something that's been said we'll just turn them off at that point.

542
01:00:46.710 --> 01:00:49.620
james murez: there's nothing else, I think we can do a leak, you have your hand up go ahead.

543
01:00:49.890 --> 01:01:04.020
Alix: Thanks, I think there is something we can do, and I think sometimes we we step up and we do something against the city attorney because we say this is not acceptable and not right in our Community and let this board meeting be thrown out if that's what we need to do.

544
01:01:05.400 --> 01:01:10.980
Alix: we're we're going to have a three to four hour meeting with the N word written on our screen.

545
01:01:11.280 --> 01:01:12.240
it's not accepted.

546
01:01:13.980 --> 01:01:14.370
Ansar  Muhammad: don't even wanna.

547
01:01:14.460 --> 01:01:15.060
Ansar  Muhammad: I don't wanna.

548
01:01:15.450 --> 01:01:25.200
Ansar  Muhammad: I don't want to as an African American as an African I don't even want to participate in this meeting, if I hear anybody, whether it be a guest or whoever.

549
01:01:25.680 --> 01:01:37.800
Ansar  Muhammad: Using the N word period because of this offensive to me as a black person and i'm going to relieve myself excuse myself from this conversation tonight, if I hear.

550
01:01:38.070 --> 01:01:39.030
james murez: stay on, let me.

551
01:01:39.330 --> 01:01:42.090
Ansar  Muhammad: Out of respect to our President, Jim and.

552
01:01:42.450 --> 01:01:50.700
james murez: Disturbing let me, let me interrupt you, let me just let's take a vote and decide how we want to proceed, do we want.

553
01:01:50.880 --> 01:01:51.780
Ivan: To grim.

554
01:01:52.020 --> 01:01:52.770
james murez: yeah go ahead and.

555
01:01:53.100 --> 01:01:54.750
Ivan: Do that not on your agenda.

556
01:01:55.890 --> 01:01:57.330
james murez: Well, we either have to.

557
01:01:57.390 --> 01:01:59.880
james murez: allow this guy to to.

558
01:02:01.620 --> 01:02:02.850
james murez: disrupt our meeting.

559
01:02:04.410 --> 01:02:15.360
james murez: And and call off our meeting because nobody wants to participate with him acting this way or we go forward and we just kick him out of the meeting which will can also go.

560
01:02:15.480 --> 01:02:20.250
Ivan: just go forward don't take any votes about this, because the brown act violation.

561
01:02:20.640 --> 01:02:22.020
james murez: I understand I can.

562
01:02:22.140 --> 01:02:23.310
Ivan: I can.

563
01:02:23.670 --> 01:02:30.030
james murez: I can kick him out of the meeting and the city would have to decide whether or not our meeting was valid.

564
01:02:30.330 --> 01:02:31.680
james murez: Because we get somebody out.

565
01:02:32.280 --> 01:02:37.920
soledad ursua: yep What if we just don't call on him if he wants he can change his name and then be called.

566
01:02:38.040 --> 01:02:38.490
Andrea Boccaletti: Back wait.

567
01:02:38.580 --> 01:02:40.560
soledad ursua: As long as it's not just don't call on him.

568
01:02:40.620 --> 01:02:42.660
melissadiner: He already off topic.

569
01:02:42.690 --> 01:02:49.530
melissadiner: With that name if he used that word we would shut him off that should be our position and we should stick to it.

570
01:02:50.550 --> 01:03:02.430
james murez: So i'm going to i'm going to take him out of the meeting, and all of you are aware of that i'm just going to go ahead and remove him from the meeting period if he wants to call back in he has more than one way of calling in and he can come back in with another name.

571
01:03:02.730 --> 01:03:04.410
Andrea Boccaletti: And he's already disrupted the meeting.

572
01:03:05.820 --> 01:03:11.640
Alix: His name and be respectful to the to all of us who are sitting on this board tonight right before Christmas.

573
01:03:11.790 --> 01:03:20.160
james murez: Okay i'm going to do that now and we'll figure out what happens with the city later Thank you everyone he's now been rejected.

574
01:03:21.210 --> 01:03:29.580
james murez: OK let's go on with public comments sorry for the delay, everyone Helen daffodils going to call on you daffodil you want to deal with this place.

575
01:03:30.780 --> 01:03:33.660
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm sure Helen go ahead, you should be allowed to talk.

576
01:03:37.440 --> 01:03:49.650
Helen Fallon: Just like to remind everyone on the board that you all received the financial training, training, training and you should realize that the merc is essentially your bank statement, and it is.

577
01:03:51.210 --> 01:04:03.750
Helen Fallon: The lack of a better word and makes makes no sense that you are always examining the merge two months later than you should be two months behind it's your bank statement, you should always be looking at the latest thanks.

578
01:04:03.990 --> 01:04:05.130
james murez: That was my bad sorry.

579
01:04:07.830 --> 01:04:08.850
Helen Fallon: you hear my comment.

580
01:04:09.930 --> 01:04:10.920
james murez: Go ahead go ahead.

581
01:04:11.040 --> 01:04:11.370
Alley Bean: I miss.

582
01:04:13.980 --> 01:04:23.790
Helen Fallon: comment is essentially that you should always be looking at your latest bank statement I don't think I would hope that none of you have this kind of financial practice in your in your personal life.

583
01:04:24.240 --> 01:04:30.150
Helen Fallon: Looking at bank statements two months later, you should be looking at the current one it's because you've set up a process.

584
01:04:30.750 --> 01:04:48.510
Helen Fallon: That is making it impossible to look at the statement, even though it's available, it was available back what December 5, I think, so the November one was it's it's it's silly that you're never you're never up to date, you never really know how much money you have on hand.

585
01:04:50.490 --> 01:04:51.030
Helen Fallon: Thank you.

586
01:04:53.910 --> 01:04:59.700
james murez: So let me take the microphone back now the floor, the gavel um.

587
01:05:01.140 --> 01:05:07.140
james murez: I wanted to mention something earlier, which I forgot to mention now, and I want to address Helens comment.

588
01:05:08.340 --> 01:05:17.610
james murez: This new agenda system allows us to shorten the cycle time between when add calm has to have.

589
01:05:18.000 --> 01:05:31.380
james murez: submissions input into the system and when add come will be meeting ED calm is going to be working on a new date, but I believe that we have now accelerated the cycle, meaning that we can give committees and and.

590
01:05:32.490 --> 01:05:41.130
james murez: stakeholders about 10 more days to be able to get information in because of the way we're going to be handling this going forward so.

591
01:05:41.610 --> 01:05:57.870
james murez: That was something I forgot to mention during my Presidents report, but it is important that that having the system in place will will improve the exact condition that Helen was just referring to about always being out of date Okay, so no more public comment let's call for a boat well.

592
01:05:58.050 --> 01:05:59.550
Andrea Boccaletti: First, first, is there any broadcom.

593
01:05:59.880 --> 01:06:01.470
james murez: know, is there any board common excuse me.

594
01:06:03.720 --> 01:06:06.450
james murez: I don't see any hands up does anybody have their hand up know.

595
01:06:07.560 --> 01:06:10.710
james murez: And everybody see my screen i'm sharing yes okay great.

596
01:06:11.550 --> 01:06:15.510
james murez: So James smear so i'm going to go ahead and vote yes and.

597
01:06:16.320 --> 01:06:17.310
Alley Bean: what's the vote on.

598
01:06:18.000 --> 01:06:19.500
Andrea Boccaletti: To approve the monthly expenditure.

599
01:06:19.500 --> 01:06:23.040
Alley Bean: Report, thank you, I got confused because we're in public comment.

600
01:06:23.070 --> 01:06:25.170
james murez: daffodil yes.

601
01:06:26.610 --> 01:06:27.210
james murez: Melissa.

602
01:06:28.410 --> 01:06:28.890
melissadiner: Yes.

603
01:06:30.570 --> 01:06:31.200
james murez: andres.

604
01:06:31.290 --> 01:06:31.740
Yes.

605
01:06:33.120 --> 01:06:33.510
james murez: A lake.

606
01:06:34.230 --> 01:06:36.090
james murez: Yes, vicki.

607
01:06:36.600 --> 01:06:37.050
Yes.

608
01:06:39.390 --> 01:06:40.890
james murez: bro NICO.

609
01:06:42.810 --> 01:06:43.140
Nico Ruderman: Yes.

610
01:06:44.490 --> 01:06:45.180
james murez: Jim rob.

611
01:06:45.870 --> 01:06:46.260
Yes.

612
01:06:47.880 --> 01:06:50.820
james murez: Stan is here, let me go back up to the top.

613
01:06:52.770 --> 01:06:58.950
james murez: I have to check him in I don't know what time Stan arrived, but until he's checked in he doesn't get the boat.

614
01:06:59.970 --> 01:07:04.200
james murez: me scroll back down here refresh the voters Stan how you vote.

615
01:07:04.920 --> 01:07:05.280
Yes.

616
01:07:07.260 --> 01:07:09.330
james murez: Thank you Jason, how do you vote.

617
01:07:15.510 --> 01:07:16.530
james murez: Jason are you there.

618
01:07:18.570 --> 01:07:20.490
james murez: It will come back to your alley, how do you vote.

619
01:07:20.760 --> 01:07:21.360
Yes.

620
01:07:22.830 --> 01:07:23.640
james murez: hi, how do you vote.

621
01:07:23.790 --> 01:07:26.310
james murez: Yes, my caddy about.

622
01:07:26.880 --> 01:07:27.450
Yes.

623
01:07:28.530 --> 01:07:29.670
james murez: sold out how do you vote.

624
01:07:29.940 --> 01:07:34.830
james murez: Yes, cj, how do you vote yes Elizabeth.

625
01:07:35.640 --> 01:07:37.530
james murez: Yes, Robert.

626
01:07:37.950 --> 01:07:39.990
james murez: Yes, Clark.

627
01:07:40.260 --> 01:07:42.810
james murez: Yes, Jason did you make it back.

628
01:07:44.130 --> 01:07:47.070
Daffodil Tyminski: he's back to him he's being promoted to a panelist now.

629
01:07:47.400 --> 01:07:53.370
james murez: All right, hold on a second so everybody sees how the system, the system tallies up the votes for us okay.

630
01:07:54.450 --> 01:07:56.610
james murez: Jason when you get back on how you vote.

631
01:07:57.210 --> 01:07:58.170
Jason Sugars: voting yes.

632
01:07:59.550 --> 01:08:01.800
Jason Sugars: Okay, the agenda, I mean to Okay, the report.

633
01:08:02.130 --> 01:08:10.080
james murez: Thank you Jason OK, so the motion carries 18 0000 whatever Okay, we move right on next item.

634
01:08:11.580 --> 01:08:19.470
james murez: This item was originally written in a way that it wasn't a motion that could be approved so just before the meeting.

635
01:08:20.190 --> 01:08:26.160
james murez: It was slightly rewarded, so it comes into the conformance of the top part of here the original motion shows.

636
01:08:26.460 --> 01:08:38.850
james murez: Below is the alternate motion that we're substituting it says the same thing it's just put into motion format, and this is the kind of stuff that we need to work on and committees, so we can get these statements to come out correct when the system downloads them.

637
01:08:39.600 --> 01:08:45.510
james murez: They need to be in the right format, so we don't have to rewrite things right before meetings to get them correct.

638
01:08:48.600 --> 01:08:49.680
james murez: So now.

639
01:08:50.640 --> 01:08:53.580
james murez: I need a motion to.

640
01:08:55.620 --> 01:09:05.520
james murez: let's see, I think, to do this, I forget exactly how this works, I have to call for this, and now I can come down here and I can't do it here yet, because it hasn't occurred.

641
01:09:07.530 --> 01:09:10.500
james murez: i'm not sure okay let's try this, we need a maker of this motion.

642
01:09:11.010 --> 01:09:12.240
Andrea Boccaletti: That out i'll make the motion.

643
01:09:12.300 --> 01:09:13.440
james murez: yeah do you want to you want to read it.

644
01:09:13.620 --> 01:09:19.050
Andrea Boccaletti: i'll read the motion sure the the Venice neighborhood Council the the budget and Finance Committee approves.

645
01:09:19.920 --> 01:09:41.700
Andrea Boccaletti: The expenditure 1400 $100 for an in person, if permissible emergency preparedness town hall in February 2022 exact exact date to be determined 1200 dollars would be of the request to be for outreach and advertising and $200 for drinks if the event is in person.

646
01:09:42.600 --> 01:09:43.800
james murez: And can I get a second on that.

647
01:09:45.000 --> 01:09:45.240
Daffodil Tyminski: it's.

648
01:09:46.260 --> 01:09:46.740
Daffodil Tyminski: In a gym.

649
01:09:48.810 --> 01:09:49.320
james murez: Okay.

650
01:09:50.520 --> 01:09:51.060
james murez: um.

651
01:09:51.120 --> 01:09:52.320
Andrea Boccaletti: Is there any public comment.

652
01:09:52.440 --> 01:09:57.840
Daffodil Tyminski: So his record i'd like to say that Freddie is on, and also that good puppet has renamed.

653
01:09:57.840 --> 01:09:59.040
Daffodil Tyminski: himself in a.

654
01:10:00.060 --> 01:10:04.380
Daffodil Tyminski: more palatable way okay um um.

655
01:10:04.410 --> 01:10:05.670
james murez: So is there any public comment.

656
01:10:06.510 --> 01:10:07.770
Daffodil Tyminski: So both.

657
01:10:07.800 --> 01:10:11.640
Daffodil Tyminski: goat puppet and Helen fallon have raised their hands Republic comment.

658
01:10:11.910 --> 01:10:17.340
james murez: Okay Oh, and it looks like bruno's here also let me log him in because I don't think he was here before.

659
01:10:21.120 --> 01:10:22.260
james murez: Go ahead and start calling the.

660
01:10:22.770 --> 01:10:25.980
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay yeah I don't see Bruno on but um.

661
01:10:26.370 --> 01:10:27.510
james murez: he's now on screen.

662
01:10:27.840 --> 01:10:28.860
Daffodil Tyminski: Helen go ahead.

663
01:10:33.450 --> 01:10:47.460
Helen Fallon: I would hope that you would have been the motion to if it isn't an in person meeting at the 1400 dollars, we set aside for Community improvement grant that will involve the committee to further prepare the neighborhood.

664
01:10:51.030 --> 01:10:53.070
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, thank you and i'm.

665
01:10:55.470 --> 01:10:57.840
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm good puppet Christmas go ahead.

666
01:11:02.610 --> 01:11:07.170
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: Thank you, better take it over Sir all right black chocolate here.

667
01:11:08.280 --> 01:11:09.930
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: Now, what is this bullshit.

668
01:11:12.030 --> 01:11:13.740
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: What is this bullshit you.

669
01:11:13.770 --> 01:11:14.250
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: cut off.

670
01:11:15.210 --> 01:11:15.990
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: Because they use.

671
01:11:18.150 --> 01:11:20.070
james murez: hey you're off you're off topic goes.

672
01:11:20.370 --> 01:11:23.310
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: off the top of the book, I know, God damn right.

673
01:11:23.370 --> 01:11:23.880
Speaking.

674
01:11:25.680 --> 01:11:26.790
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah we're turning it off.

675
01:11:28.110 --> 01:11:28.710
james murez: um.

676
01:11:29.040 --> 01:11:33.510
Daffodil Tyminski: that's it for public comment we're closing public comment and Jim go ahead call board comment.

677
01:11:33.600 --> 01:11:35.700
james murez: Okay um any board comment.

678
01:11:37.770 --> 01:11:41.220
james murez: I know Keith was here if we had any questions, but I don't think we do.

679
01:11:44.790 --> 01:11:56.790
Daffodil Tyminski: Actually i'd make it, this is daffodil i'd like to make a quick comment, yes i'm back you know, probably 12 years ago when I was Chair of the public safety emergency preparedness committee we did a similar town hall.

680
01:11:57.630 --> 01:12:03.660
Daffodil Tyminski: That was so well received, I think this is one issue that almost everybody in Venice really believes in.

681
01:12:04.530 --> 01:12:11.970
Daffodil Tyminski: we're in a vulnerable spot and we've got you know, a multitude of issues from storms to surge to earthquakes.

682
01:12:12.870 --> 01:12:23.430
Daffodil Tyminski: So I really do support us doing this, this is something that really engages not typical dnc participants and so it's great.

683
01:12:24.060 --> 01:12:35.550
Daffodil Tyminski: You know, as an outreach event to get people involved, not only in the Venice Community but also in actually doing good emergency preparedness which where we live is very important because.

684
01:12:37.980 --> 01:12:51.840
Daffodil Tyminski: As many of you know, we are kind of in an island outside the city and there are not any emergency services available to us here so whatever happens in a huge crisis in Venice we're basically on our own.

685
01:12:52.860 --> 01:12:58.410
Daffodil Tyminski: So I really support us doing this and keeping the public aware of you know, are these issues and our.

686
01:12:59.490 --> 01:13:00.450
ability to respond.

687
01:13:02.430 --> 01:13:09.090
james murez: Thank you um there's a few more hands up and Am I correct and understanding that Sema is here.

688
01:13:10.980 --> 01:13:13.290
james murez: I don't see I don't see your hand there.

689
01:13:14.580 --> 01:13:15.630
And and.

690
01:13:18.570 --> 01:13:26.280
james murez: I don't know somebody texted me that seems trying to get in I am I mistaken okay um we have some more board comment Mike go ahead.

691
01:13:27.930 --> 01:13:42.930
Mike Bravo: uh yeah um I had a question about the committee, not so much about the most I think it's great um the residency committee how people are on that I saw on the website Keith name, are there, more than one person on that committee, or is it just him.

692
01:13:43.110 --> 01:13:45.420
james murez: Know there's there's a half a dozen people that.

693
01:13:45.540 --> 01:13:48.000
Mike Bravo: That okay right and ceilings on the website okay just.

694
01:13:48.000 --> 01:13:51.300
james murez: yeah I think the website may be a little bit out of date from the old.

695
01:13:51.510 --> 01:13:56.100
james murez: resiliency committee and that's something that we should probably talk to Keith about and get it updated.

696
01:13:56.430 --> 01:13:56.910
Mike Bravo: Okay cool.

697
01:13:56.970 --> 01:14:01.950
james murez: they're not they're not board members, though, so I think that's part of the issue that's like putting other names on it.

698
01:14:02.430 --> 01:14:02.730
Mike Bravo: got it.

699
01:14:02.880 --> 01:14:04.230
james murez: Okay, pointing that out.

700
01:14:05.370 --> 01:14:11.790
james murez: Melissa can you make a note of that, in the in the Minutes that we should talk to Keith about that, please Andreas go ahead, please.

701
01:14:12.780 --> 01:14:25.290
Andrea Boccaletti: I guess, I was just going to clarify just before we vote, I mean the 1200 dollars, is for the outreach it's going to be for advertisements in the local papers and also online outreach and so that's it okay.

702
01:14:25.320 --> 01:14:26.820
james murez: Mike did you have your hand back up again.

703
01:14:27.930 --> 01:14:32.550
james murez: Okay um any other comments anybody have a comment, they want to make now.

704
01:14:35.970 --> 01:14:41.280
james murez: Okay, see none let's take a boat on this James me, I will say yes.

705
01:14:42.150 --> 01:14:43.860
Daffodil Tyminski: daffodil yes.

706
01:14:45.450 --> 01:14:46.890
james murez: Melissa yes.

707
01:14:48.300 --> 01:14:49.200
james murez: undress.

708
01:14:49.290 --> 01:14:49.680
As.

709
01:14:50.760 --> 01:14:51.240
james murez: A leak.

710
01:14:51.750 --> 01:14:53.820
james murez: Yes, vicki.

711
01:14:54.450 --> 01:14:54.960
Yes.

712
01:14:57.480 --> 01:14:57.690
james murez: Oh.

713
01:14:57.750 --> 01:15:00.330
james murez: Wait let me refresh this because bruno's here sorry.

714
01:15:01.980 --> 01:15:02.430
james murez: rudo.

715
01:15:02.670 --> 01:15:03.450
james murez: Go ahead, please.

716
01:15:04.020 --> 01:15:05.250
Bruno Hernandez: Read yes, yes.

717
01:15:05.370 --> 01:15:05.850
Okay.

718
01:15:06.900 --> 01:15:07.500
james murez: um.

719
01:15:07.920 --> 01:15:09.150
james murez: did see my make it in.

720
01:15:11.850 --> 01:15:13.140
Seeing her okay.

721
01:15:14.280 --> 01:15:14.700
Nico Ruderman: Yes.

722
01:15:14.730 --> 01:15:16.500
james murez: Yes, thank you rob.

723
01:15:17.010 --> 01:15:17.520
Yes.

724
01:15:19.050 --> 01:15:19.560
james murez: stand.

725
01:15:20.550 --> 01:15:23.010
james murez: Yes, thank you Jason.

726
01:15:23.580 --> 01:15:24.090
Yes.

727
01:15:25.110 --> 01:15:25.560
james murez: Ali.

728
01:15:25.950 --> 01:15:26.520
Yes.

729
01:15:27.840 --> 01:15:28.320
james murez: Okay.

730
01:15:29.640 --> 01:15:31.590
Chie Lunn: Yes, Mike.

731
01:15:32.190 --> 01:15:34.890
james murez: Yes, so it out, yes.

732
01:15:35.460 --> 01:15:37.020
CJ Cole: cj yes.

733
01:15:38.040 --> 01:15:39.690
james murez: oliver's not here Elizabeth.

734
01:15:40.170 --> 01:15:42.270
james murez: Yes, Robert.

735
01:15:42.600 --> 01:15:44.190
james murez: Yes, Clark.

736
01:15:44.370 --> 01:15:46.650
james murez: Yes, motion carries.

737
01:15:47.760 --> 01:15:57.390
james murez: 00 moving right along wouldn't it be cool if we all could just push the button on our own computer and have it show up on the screen that's the next version.

738
01:15:58.470 --> 01:16:12.600
james murez: i'm item $11,000 for le PD Pacific division booster holiday toy drive we just heard how much they appreciated what vicki and George did now can we send them some money.

739
01:16:14.700 --> 01:16:17.310
james murez: Somebody want to read this motion andres how about you.

740
01:16:17.550 --> 01:16:24.660
Andrea Boccaletti: Okay, the dnc Well, this is not the dnc board the budget and Finance Committee right approves the neighborhood purpose grant.

741
01:16:26.070 --> 01:16:38.880
Andrea Boccaletti: Of $1,000 to the Los Angeles police department Pacific division boosters to support the Pacific divisions 2021 holiday toy drive which benefits that has kids and youth or make the motion.

742
01:16:40.020 --> 01:16:42.270
james murez: Under okay somebody want a second.

743
01:16:42.510 --> 01:16:43.440
vickihalliday: vicki will second.

744
01:16:45.300 --> 01:16:59.880
james murez: Okay address understand that the part in the in the discolored area down here this alton emotion, this is the actual language that needs to come through to the board because it's the board that's approving the funding, not the committee, the Committee put the.

745
01:16:59.910 --> 01:17:00.660
james murez: motion on the.

746
01:17:00.780 --> 01:17:04.260
Andrea Boccaletti: On the floor Okay, it has to be written in the form of already.

747
01:17:04.860 --> 01:17:10.260
james murez: Have the board the board, taking the action emotion is always the Boards taking the action.

748
01:17:11.100 --> 01:17:14.640
james murez: ready, so we had to fix a couple of these just so they reflected it correctly.

749
01:17:15.030 --> 01:17:22.320
Andrea Boccaletti: Okay, and I guess I used to just note that I mean the the budget and Finance Committee approve this 5200.

750
01:17:22.530 --> 01:17:24.300
james murez: yeah that's up here up above.

751
01:17:24.660 --> 01:17:25.200
Andrea Boccaletti: Okay, great.

752
01:17:25.290 --> 01:17:33.240
james murez: And that soon as we're going to clean that up a little bit so becomes more obvious but yeah it was from the budget and Finance Committee, but this down here's what we're actually a proven.

753
01:17:33.690 --> 01:17:42.630
james murez: Okay i'm Okay, having said all of that let's do public comment, we have any hands looks like we have four hands up.

754
01:17:43.770 --> 01:17:48.720
james murez: Including daffodils debit of the you have a question about notes down.

755
01:17:48.750 --> 01:17:54.150
Daffodil Tyminski: No, I didn't have a question I was going I raised my hand, so I can make an alternate motion but go ahead, where.

756
01:17:54.780 --> 01:18:07.950
james murez: it's there okay um let me this this clock is part of the new thing also um so go ahead and start whenever you're ready, and I will start the clock and we're giving them a 10 second yellow warning.

757
01:18:09.060 --> 01:18:20.850
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so we've got Helen found gold puppet Lisa redmond Elizabeth right down to face who kaplan and very casually after Barry Castle and we're closing public comment i'm.

758
01:18:21.900 --> 01:18:26.100
Daffodil Tyminski: Helen go ahead you're muted, you need to unmute on your end.

759
01:18:30.390 --> 01:18:38.640
Helen Fallon: Yes, um I thought funding MP geez had to be 30 days out and it sounded like from the police, that this was over with so I.

760
01:18:39.240 --> 01:18:57.180
Helen Fallon: Just should have been submitted last month I don't get why you're doing something after the fact, I don't think that's that's not how the funding motions are supposed to work supposed to give 30 days notice and it's a great idea, but all the rules folks it's just not.

761
01:18:58.380 --> 01:19:03.120
Helen Fallon: Appropriate to always be deciding that you're above the rules, thank you.

762
01:19:05.850 --> 01:19:06.570
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Helen.

763
01:19:07.710 --> 01:19:09.450
Daffodil Tyminski: Go pepin your next.

764
01:19:10.980 --> 01:19:11.580
Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead.

765
01:19:11.790 --> 01:19:12.960
He.

766
01:19:13.980 --> 01:19:21.480
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: Yes, we should give out little toy puppets little hand puppets as gifts to the kids.

767
01:19:22.800 --> 01:19:43.170
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: Why well Sir we're here tonight teaching civil rights and how the city and the venison see by la civil rights, based on the content other speech Freddie you should have been here ready because you're getting an email and an attempt to sue letter real soon.

768
01:19:44.700 --> 01:19:52.590
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: What about the puppets well, you can take the puppets and you can have the children learn how to speak it meeting.

769
01:19:54.210 --> 01:19:56.190
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, go up with your off topic sorry.

770
01:19:56.760 --> 01:19:59.190
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: About puppets being uses gap.

771
01:20:00.600 --> 01:20:03.810
Daffodil Tyminski: And Lisa guy Jim restart the clock Lisa go ahead.

772
01:20:05.970 --> 01:20:17.370
Lisa Redmond: yeah I want to make it clear, I am not against helping unfortunate children who need toys, but I am with Helen that this is like a little too late, so.

773
01:20:18.060 --> 01:20:25.350
Lisa Redmond: It should have come out earlier, it should have been rejected, said, thank you, but maybe how about next year, and you submit it in September, October.

774
01:20:25.710 --> 01:20:34.650
Lisa Redmond: Because, by the time you put this through and get their funding they're not going to get it to at least January or February, then, how do we know where is that money going.

775
01:20:34.980 --> 01:20:44.850
Lisa Redmond: Will it really be used on twice, because the toy drive is technically over you guys are really gotta catch up on these things, a year ago, the dnc put out 40 $500.

776
01:20:45.210 --> 01:20:52.950
Lisa Redmond: to fix the Frederick passageway, which is still sitting on done, please be more responsible with how you spend your money, thank you.

777
01:20:54.900 --> 01:20:55.800
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Lisa.

778
01:20:57.330 --> 01:20:58.020
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm.

779
01:20:59.550 --> 01:21:00.540
Elizabeth right.

780
01:21:02.310 --> 01:21:04.860
Daffodil Tyminski: Let me get you here go ahead and speak.

781
01:21:15.690 --> 01:21:16.200
Daffodil Tyminski: Liz.

782
01:21:21.330 --> 01:21:23.310
Elizabeth Wright: Now you can hear me right, yes.

783
01:21:23.340 --> 01:21:24.600
Daffodil Tyminski: We can hear you now, thank you.

784
01:21:25.020 --> 01:21:39.390
Elizabeth Wright: Okay, one is a recommendation that at the beginning of every meeting all board members set their phones to silent and just put them on the desk by your computer, it is really distracting to have them going off.

785
01:21:41.100 --> 01:21:52.740
Elizabeth Wright: The other one is the agenda there are so many errors in the agenda and nice idea but least the public really should not be the beta test.

786
01:21:56.610 --> 01:22:06.240
Elizabeth Wright: And among all the errors, I also would like to see no color for the background just take something.

787
01:22:07.950 --> 01:22:08.340
Thank you.

788
01:22:09.780 --> 01:22:10.590
Thanks Liz.

789
01:22:11.910 --> 01:22:15.810
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm Darrell do fake go ahead i've enabled you to talk.

790
01:22:19.890 --> 01:22:22.380
Darryl DuFay: Thank you, you can hear me yes.

791
01:22:23.460 --> 01:22:28.530
Darryl DuFay: i'm Jim, I just wanted to thank you for the work that you've done on this.

792
01:22:30.240 --> 01:22:36.090
Darryl DuFay: Agenda and all it's there it is so much clearer it's so much easier to do.

793
01:22:37.530 --> 01:22:41.850
Darryl DuFay: And and see what's there, the one concern I have.

794
01:22:42.030 --> 01:22:44.280
Andrea Boccaletti: This was this is off topic, I mean it's really.

795
01:22:44.910 --> 01:22:47.550
Darryl DuFay: All right, then i'll talk to you personally.

796
01:22:48.330 --> 01:22:50.550
james murez: yeah no we're gonna have public comment, the minute Darrell.

797
01:22:51.690 --> 01:22:53.280
robertthibodeau: This is about the toy drive right.

798
01:22:53.430 --> 01:22:54.090
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah yes.

799
01:22:54.300 --> 01:22:56.580
Darryl DuFay: Oh i'm sorry gosh I can teach.

800
01:22:57.540 --> 01:22:58.260
robertthibodeau: All good.

801
01:22:58.620 --> 01:22:58.890
hey.

802
01:23:01.800 --> 01:23:03.150
Daffodil Tyminski: Sue katelyn go ahead.

803
01:23:06.510 --> 01:23:24.960
Sue Kaplan: i'm sorry I did think it was um general public comments, so I apologize, but I do want to support Helens comments that if it's past the deadline and you're expanding money where's that money going to go, it has to go back into the budget and.

804
01:23:26.550 --> 01:23:34.140
Sue Kaplan: So it's just a waste of time and it's just not polite and it's not fair to the stakeholders when.

805
01:23:35.280 --> 01:23:45.420
Sue Kaplan: They don't have they don't they can have trust in the board to handle our money, it is the stakeholders its businesses money, not the Boards Thank you.

806
01:23:47.820 --> 01:23:50.700
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks so with that we're closing public comment.

807
01:23:52.980 --> 01:23:54.780
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm Jim go ahead and.

808
01:23:55.950 --> 01:23:58.830
james murez: Do we have any board comment yeah.

809
01:23:58.920 --> 01:24:01.800
Daffodil Tyminski: i'd like to make a comment but i'm happy to reserve until the end.

810
01:24:02.520 --> 01:24:04.560
james murez: Well, why don't you go your first up.

811
01:24:06.300 --> 01:24:17.340
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah well I am so the toy drive goes through January, and it is a part of a larger program so obviously if we.

812
01:24:18.960 --> 01:24:26.700
Daffodil Tyminski: approve this now, we will be funding the program that will still be active when it receives our funding and.

813
01:24:28.410 --> 01:24:42.270
Daffodil Tyminski: Had members of the public, educated themselves about the program or participated, they might know that rather than waste our time with pointless comments, but I would really support this motion, it is a program that has been in place for years.

814
01:24:43.620 --> 01:24:47.310
Daffodil Tyminski: In fact, we used to have a way bigger prisons and presence in the toy drive.

815
01:24:47.850 --> 01:25:00.300
Daffodil Tyminski: And it's really something that kids it's one of the few things that we do as a board, where there was an actual immediate tangible benefit to some of our most vulnerable stakeholders, so I suggest that we support this.

816
01:25:02.340 --> 01:25:04.260
james murez: Thank you Mike your hands up quick.

817
01:25:04.740 --> 01:25:14.130
Mike Bravo: yeah so I want to just reiterate Lisa and sue's point about being passed deadline on one thing, and also to just for reference to.

818
01:25:14.640 --> 01:25:25.170
Mike Bravo: I like PT or it gets about something to the likes of 58% of the La city budget so we kind of like subsidizing money that they already have like the gun to get lots of money.

819
01:25:25.890 --> 01:25:32.400
Mike Bravo: and also to I think the market be spared assuming if it was you know before the deadline it'd be better to invest in local.

820
01:25:32.910 --> 01:25:49.200
Mike Bravo: can be organizations who've been doing the work for a long time that santana would help outreach efforts i'm and i'm really happy to see a lot of the folks here um no rights up against the law we know the racist speech and, in turn, that that this is a good opportunity to also support.

821
01:25:51.900 --> 01:26:00.420
Mike Bravo: I say black empowerment determination terms of the black lives matter movement when they call for more investment in community.

822
01:26:02.010 --> 01:26:06.420
Mike Bravo: Services and people, so I would encourage people to vote no.

823
01:26:08.790 --> 01:26:10.200
Mike Bravo: Thank you Mike.

824
01:26:10.440 --> 01:26:11.220
james murez: Clark go ahead.

825
01:26:12.210 --> 01:26:12.900
clark brown: I have a question.

826
01:26:18.090 --> 01:26:18.480
clark brown: um.

827
01:26:21.270 --> 01:26:32.460
clark brown: I have a question is it customary that kids was seeing the benefit of these of these funds by the January that follows.

828
01:26:33.960 --> 01:26:34.800
clark brown: The Christmas.

829
01:26:36.240 --> 01:26:38.040
clark brown: This is supposed to be Christmas points right.

830
01:26:41.340 --> 01:26:49.710
james murez: Why don't you go ahead and make your statement, and then I think see my will make a statement in a few minutes, and maybe she can help clarify some of the she brought this to the board.

831
01:26:52.380 --> 01:27:01.080
clark brown: I get the sense that that's customary that these kids don't get the toys by Christmas, but they do get the toys by the end of the following month.

832
01:27:01.620 --> 01:27:16.230
clark brown: If if that has been the custom, I think this motion is appropriate, provided we build into it, a provision that these kids must get the benefit of these funds by January 31 following Christmas.

833
01:27:17.820 --> 01:27:18.840
clark brown: That has been the custom.

834
01:27:20.370 --> 01:27:21.870
james murez: Okay, thank you.

835
01:27:24.090 --> 01:27:25.230
james murez: Stan go ahead, please.

836
01:27:26.670 --> 01:27:37.530
Ansar  Muhammad: So yeah I like the concept of the toy drive a toy giveaway, but I think it's an injustice and i'ma share it is every year.

837
01:27:38.400 --> 01:27:49.200
Ansar  Muhammad: Our agency, help us foundation finished 2000 submitted mpg to an area where we've been servicing the Community for the past 10 years and that's more distant.

838
01:27:50.160 --> 01:28:01.950
Ansar  Muhammad: And so we normally are the staff person in week eight normally submit mpg application October we're just now receiving the thousand dollars last week.

839
01:28:02.610 --> 01:28:15.990
Ansar  Muhammad: So I don't think law enforcement any other government agency should have privilege if the Community based organizations have to go through the process even qualified for science that's number one number two.

840
01:28:17.250 --> 01:28:28.380
Ansar  Muhammad: If we both have this, how do we ensure that low income residents black and Brown, in particular, those who may not have resources to even get.

841
01:28:29.880 --> 01:28:40.500
Ansar  Muhammad: A satisfying Christmas, how do we make sure how do we ensure that these dollars, is going to hit these households in Venice oakland, in particular, so I just wanted to raise that because.

842
01:28:41.040 --> 01:28:52.260
Ansar  Muhammad: Every year we apply for 1000 bucks to not only give out toys but give out turkeys and hams and things of that nature and we're going to be doing this as early as thirsty.

843
01:28:52.920 --> 01:29:06.900
Ansar  Muhammad: For Venice and we haven't came to the neighborhood Council see anything yet, but I think moving forward, we should identify Community based organizations in Venice that is touching these families and make sure that these dollars reach those ages.

844
01:29:08.550 --> 01:29:09.570
james murez: Okay, thank you Stan.

845
01:29:10.980 --> 01:29:12.090
james murez: see my go ahead, please.

846
01:29:17.460 --> 01:29:18.360
james murez: see me, you have to unmute.

847
01:29:18.420 --> 01:29:27.000
Sima Kostovetsky: hi, and so this came to us directly from the booster club, just so you know the boosters have nothing to do with lapd budget.

848
01:29:27.390 --> 01:29:40.260
Sima Kostovetsky: boosters raise money to help families to help families of the lapd and to raise money for projects such as this that go to Venice kids and Venice kids in need.

849
01:29:40.830 --> 01:29:52.560
Sima Kostovetsky: This tour derives specifically after speaking with the roosters Clark diane she said, look it's great when we do drives and we have been doing to our drones somebody who have donated Thank you so much.

850
01:29:53.580 --> 01:30:05.580
Sima Kostovetsky: But the reality is they still need to buy the toys and buy toys I don't always mean you know, a teddy bear like sometimes they might need to buy an electronic thing for somebody in you know the boys and girls club.

851
01:30:05.970 --> 01:30:16.860
Sima Kostovetsky: So this money does go to good use, and it goes to good use and benefits, and there is no deadline, they can do this through the end of January and.

852
01:30:17.670 --> 01:30:27.120
Sima Kostovetsky: You know they came to us because all the other CD 11 neighborhoods participate del rey gave them money marvis to gave them money so.

853
01:30:27.540 --> 01:30:31.980
Sima Kostovetsky: They came to us, we did not give last year and I think it's very important.

854
01:30:32.430 --> 01:30:45.300
Sima Kostovetsky: Because kids haven't had a Christmas in two years, and it was actually really lovely at the Venice i'm writing how many people showed up to donate Tories, and how grateful, the lapd was happy to answer any more questions.

855
01:30:45.900 --> 01:30:48.120
james murez: Thank you see my elite go ahead, please.

856
01:30:49.350 --> 01:31:02.070
Alix: So I think we should wholeheartedly support this motion um there are many, many community groups that that do good and if some of the boards are unhappy with this choice I urge them all to get involved.

857
01:31:02.460 --> 01:31:14.940
Alix: With fema for next year, but I seem to said, you know, this is a great thing to see children in need having donations and I hope as a board, we support it.

858
01:31:16.680 --> 01:31:16.920
Alix: All.

859
01:31:16.950 --> 01:31:18.870
james murez: Thank you um.

860
01:31:20.850 --> 01:31:22.710
james murez: NICO you have your hand up go ahead, please.

861
01:31:27.630 --> 01:31:28.290
Nico Ruderman: I apologize.

862
01:31:30.780 --> 01:31:33.630
james murez: Stan you put your hand back up again only.

863
01:31:33.690 --> 01:31:46.320
Ansar  Muhammad: I just I just want to say the booster club, they should be, in partnership with my agency and other agencies in Venice again we're servicing a very specific.

864
01:31:47.430 --> 01:31:51.930
Ansar  Muhammad: unique group of people in oakland and to be quite honest, I don't see any agents.

865
01:31:53.640 --> 01:32:06.420
Ansar  Muhammad: service in this population, and this is the black and brown the window, if there is agencies to service in that population, I would like to know who they are, so we can be in collaboration and partnership with these agencies, but in the meantime.

866
01:32:07.500 --> 01:32:22.740
Ansar  Muhammad: booster should be partnering with business 2000 and other organizations in the business community to make sure again that these dollars touched these families that we are currently servicing and been servicing for nearly 25 years and with tremendous.

867
01:32:23.640 --> 01:32:27.180
james murez: understood Thank you stand up, Melissa go ahead, please.

868
01:32:28.410 --> 01:32:41.340
melissadiner: I just also wanted to make sure that people knew that you can submit to request funds from us, unlike the past where it was like once a year, when you could submit for funds anyone can do this.

869
01:32:42.210 --> 01:32:49.020
melissadiner: nonprofit or other Community based projects that have come to us, and then I don't know the schedule and drag so.

870
01:32:49.320 --> 01:32:49.590
Sima Kostovetsky: Are you.

871
01:32:50.370 --> 01:32:51.780
melissadiner: yeah can you hear me.

872
01:32:53.730 --> 01:32:54.180
james murez: well.

873
01:32:54.780 --> 01:33:03.930
melissadiner: anyways i'll skip it, I just wanted to say that we don't operate on people having to submit a year before their event, we have our budget, and we can allocate it.

874
01:33:04.350 --> 01:33:11.790
melissadiner: On demand more or less, we have some delay, but not the same as you would, if you are applying for other government funds that's it.

875
01:33:12.540 --> 01:33:14.520
james murez: Thank you, Melissa Chi go ahead.

876
01:33:15.240 --> 01:33:22.320
Chie Lunn: I was just gonna say I see firsthand how like the booster club and things like that, through larger agencies benefit children.

877
01:33:22.650 --> 01:33:28.320
Chie Lunn: But I think Stan brought up some really great things one being his agency, and all that they do directly.

878
01:33:28.740 --> 01:33:40.680
Chie Lunn: And I don't know if this is okay to say, but I think that anyone who's on the call who can go deeper into to help a foundation and also contribute there and as individuals, we can also contribute directly to the booster club.

879
01:33:41.070 --> 01:33:56.460
Chie Lunn: That would be great but we're not talking about a huge amount of money $1,000 overall for the committee, I think that it's it's a great thing but also just looking at these companies, and these agencies that support locally as well, supporting them to.

880
01:33:57.450 --> 01:33:57.990
james murez: Thank you.

881
01:33:59.850 --> 01:34:04.470
james murez: So I will just throw out there i'm going to be the last speaker, nobody else has their hand up at this point.

882
01:34:06.720 --> 01:34:13.230
james murez: I know that the booster is one of many organizations that the Venice neighborhood Council has given to over the years.

883
01:34:13.710 --> 01:34:27.570
james murez: I think if there are other groups out there that want to apply for funds, we do have a mechanism for that metric if you look at the link on this item you'll see the forms that were filled out the link is showing up here on the screen this one right here.

884
01:34:28.680 --> 01:34:37.020
james murez: That that link takes you to the forums that it the booster club filled out and if anybody wanted to fill those kinds of forms out, we could take a look at those as well.

885
01:34:38.850 --> 01:34:49.560
james murez: i'm going to support this, I believe the boosters do good work, and I think that we have funding available for other groups and other points in time so let's just move on with this now let's take a vote.

886
01:34:51.090 --> 01:34:52.200
james murez: Go ahead and.

887
01:34:53.460 --> 01:34:57.450
james murez: call for the question somebody I guess needs to I am I allowed to call the question I haven't.

888
01:34:57.600 --> 01:34:59.070
Alix: done i'll do it i'm calling the question.

889
01:34:59.850 --> 01:35:03.510
james murez: Thank you okay so James will go.

890
01:35:03.600 --> 01:35:05.160
Ivan: No, no, no, Jim.

891
01:35:05.520 --> 01:35:06.480
Ivan: Yes, no.

892
01:35:08.310 --> 01:35:09.930
Ivan: You can call the fruit vote.

893
01:35:10.230 --> 01:35:10.710
james murez: Okay.

894
01:35:11.340 --> 01:35:18.540
Ivan: If you have someone else does it yeah, then you have to take a two thirds vote on whether the call the question you don't want to go there.

895
01:35:18.840 --> 01:35:20.250
james murez: Okay, so I miss.

896
01:35:20.850 --> 01:35:23.130
Ivan: You can judge her to call the role.

897
01:35:23.520 --> 01:35:27.750
james murez: OK, so the role is being asked to be called.

898
01:35:28.860 --> 01:35:30.360
james murez: And I said yes daffodil.

899
01:35:33.810 --> 01:35:34.860
james murez: daffodil are you there.

900
01:35:38.490 --> 01:35:39.300
james murez: Am I locked up.

901
01:35:40.380 --> 01:35:41.340
Andrea Boccaletti: nope nope.

902
01:35:43.260 --> 01:35:45.540
james murez: Okay well we'll come back to that fundamentalists are you there.

903
01:35:45.960 --> 01:35:47.070
melissadiner: Yes, yes.

904
01:35:47.490 --> 01:35:48.090
james murez: How do you vote.

905
01:35:48.930 --> 01:35:51.360
james murez: Yes, thank you Andre.

906
01:35:51.870 --> 01:35:52.410
Yes.

907
01:35:53.670 --> 01:35:54.180
A leak.

908
01:35:56.790 --> 01:35:57.540
Alix: Sorry, yes.

909
01:35:58.830 --> 01:35:59.310
james murez: vicki.

910
01:35:59.670 --> 01:36:00.030
Yes.

911
01:36:01.980 --> 01:36:02.250
james murez: Good oh.

912
01:36:03.390 --> 01:36:03.990
Bruno Hernandez: Yes.

913
01:36:05.790 --> 01:36:06.870
Alley Bean: um.

914
01:36:07.320 --> 01:36:10.620
james murez: Oh it's kept schema schema schema were you here.

915
01:36:11.910 --> 01:36:12.600
Sima Kostovetsky: Yes.

916
01:36:12.630 --> 01:36:14.400
james murez: yeah let me login see a lot.

917
01:36:26.130 --> 01:36:26.490
james murez: see my.

918
01:36:28.440 --> 01:36:28.920
Sima Kostovetsky: best.

919
01:36:32.040 --> 01:36:37.350
james murez: oops sorry my bad Oh, what did you hear oh Did it lose.

920
01:36:38.460 --> 01:36:46.440
james murez: The way we have to start this over I pushed the button and I guess I shouldn't have, in the middle, I have to learn how to run this thing daffodil, how do you both did you get back in.

921
01:36:48.120 --> 01:36:53.790
james murez: She got bumped out somehow have to put her back in a minute, the list is here Andreas you how did you vote.

922
01:36:55.380 --> 01:36:56.550
Andrea Boccaletti: Yes, yes.

923
01:36:56.880 --> 01:36:57.330
Sorry.

924
01:36:58.620 --> 01:36:59.610
james murez: leaks voted.

925
01:37:01.560 --> 01:37:02.160
leaks.

926
01:37:04.320 --> 01:37:04.830
Alix: leaks.

927
01:37:06.150 --> 01:37:06.390
Alix: yeah.

928
01:37:06.630 --> 01:37:07.260
Alley Bean: yeah sorry.

929
01:37:07.710 --> 01:37:08.880
vickihalliday: vicki yes.

930
01:37:10.470 --> 01:37:12.240
james murez: Bruno voted yes.

931
01:37:13.710 --> 01:37:14.730
james murez: printed do you go yes.

932
01:37:15.360 --> 01:37:16.470
james murez: Yes, okay.

933
01:37:17.880 --> 01:37:19.770
james murez: Sema voted yes NICO how did you vote.

934
01:37:20.430 --> 01:37:21.780
james murez: Yes, thank you.

935
01:37:22.440 --> 01:37:23.520
james murez: Jim rob had you vote.

936
01:37:24.870 --> 01:37:26.580
james robb: Can you give me a second come back to me.

937
01:37:27.000 --> 01:37:28.500
james murez: Okay Stan, how do you vote.

938
01:37:29.430 --> 01:37:32.040
Ansar  Muhammad: i'm gonna vote yes, but I have a question on winners to asheville.

939
01:37:32.070 --> 01:37:32.880
Ansar  Muhammad: toy right.

940
01:37:32.970 --> 01:37:38.010
james murez: Okay, we can't we can't talk about stuff during the middle of the vote, we can we can talk to you after the bodies.

941
01:37:38.820 --> 01:37:39.180
Jason.

942
01:37:41.100 --> 01:37:42.210
james murez: Jason go ahead, please.

943
01:37:43.080 --> 01:37:43.470
No.

944
01:37:45.420 --> 01:37:46.500
james murez: alley, how do you vote.

945
01:37:47.100 --> 01:37:47.640
Yes.

946
01:37:48.870 --> 01:37:49.620
james murez: I have you vote.

947
01:37:50.460 --> 01:37:51.000
Yes.

948
01:37:57.810 --> 01:37:58.320
soledad ursua: Yes.

949
01:37:59.370 --> 01:38:01.110
CJ Cole: cj yes.

950
01:38:02.700 --> 01:38:04.110
james murez: over here Elizabeth.

951
01:38:08.070 --> 01:38:08.520
james murez: Robert.

952
01:38:09.330 --> 01:38:10.410
robertthibodeau: Of course, yes.

953
01:38:11.820 --> 01:38:13.140
clark brown: Clark yes.

954
01:38:14.490 --> 01:38:17.430
james murez: And Jim i'm coming back to you one last chance.

955
01:38:17.850 --> 01:38:18.990
james robb: i'm gonna vote no.

956
01:38:20.010 --> 01:38:20.760
james murez: Okay.

957
01:38:22.530 --> 01:38:32.730
james murez: So the motion carries 16 two, three, let me see what this I think deb does she got kicked out, let me see if I can get her back in nashville i'm working on it.

958
01:38:38.670 --> 01:38:40.230
promote two panelists.

959
01:38:41.490 --> 01:38:42.180
james murez: That work.

960
01:38:44.970 --> 01:38:45.660
james murez: Are you back in.

961
01:38:48.390 --> 01:38:51.630
Daffodil Tyminski: That work i'm back as a panelist sorry about that I don't know what happened.

962
01:38:52.170 --> 01:38:53.880
james murez: Okay, did you want to vote on this.

963
01:38:54.750 --> 01:38:55.980
Daffodil Tyminski: I will go yes.

964
01:38:56.730 --> 01:38:57.240
Okay.

965
01:39:01.980 --> 01:39:02.610
Daffodil Tyminski: And then, if you could.

966
01:39:02.670 --> 01:39:04.830
Daffodil Tyminski: Make because they can continue with zoom.

967
01:39:05.010 --> 01:39:07.230
james murez: yeah good okay.

968
01:39:07.500 --> 01:39:08.610
james murez: let's keep moving on.

969
01:39:08.820 --> 01:39:11.790
Andrea Boccaletti: We need to pick up the tempo are we gonna be here for a long time.

970
01:39:12.030 --> 01:39:14.070
james murez: yeah if I click on this button now.

971
01:39:15.300 --> 01:39:16.650
james murez: 732.

972
01:39:17.820 --> 01:39:30.480
james murez: let's just see how we're doing what time will the meeting and based on the best estimation now, so this thing does keep track of the time so yeah we're going to end it almost two o'clock in the morning, we got to pick up the pace.

973
01:39:31.950 --> 01:39:33.300
robertthibodeau: You gotta pick up the pace.

974
01:39:33.420 --> 01:39:43.050
james murez: You know, we got to pick up the pace we're probably going to have to avoid some items we're just going to have to pass over them Okay, so now we're on to public comment items, not on the agenda.

975
01:39:43.950 --> 01:39:57.210
james murez: we're going to limit this to one minute per speaker, I will be working the clock daffodil will be calling on the people in the audience before we go there Stan you had your hand up did you want to say something briefly.

976
01:39:58.470 --> 01:40:01.290
robertthibodeau: know you we finished it let's move on.

977
01:40:02.940 --> 01:40:06.600
Ansar  Muhammad: Not only had a question on winners to actual toy drive.

978
01:40:08.070 --> 01:40:14.490
james murez: Can we can deal with that offline Thank you are you okay daffodil you want to start on public comment.

979
01:40:14.760 --> 01:40:25.110
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, we have goat puppet Helen fallon Liz right Margaret really are more Freddie Cooper names Barry Kathleen Lisa redmen after Lisa we're closing public comment.

980
01:40:26.370 --> 01:40:27.780
Daffodil Tyminski: Good puppet go ahead.

981
01:40:31.980 --> 01:40:33.900
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: unmute me, so I did.

982
01:40:35.490 --> 01:40:40.620
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: trouble you're getting me and so i'm going to talk to you later go ahead i'm sorry damn.

983
01:40:41.700 --> 01:40:42.930
Daffodil Tyminski: high profit.

984
01:40:43.290 --> 01:40:43.800
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: hold on.

985
01:40:44.040 --> 01:40:45.240
Daffodil Tyminski: Sam topics.

986
01:40:45.570 --> 01:40:52.680
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: Yes, yes, racist know what's look at Freddie has something to tell you that.

987
01:40:52.740 --> 01:40:55.350
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm sorry good puppet you gotta stay on topic.

988
01:40:56.580 --> 01:41:01.740
james murez: Go ahead well timeout timeout timeout daffodil this is public comment items, not on the agenda.

989
01:41:04.620 --> 01:41:05.070
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay.

990
01:41:06.450 --> 01:41:07.020
Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead.

991
01:41:07.170 --> 01:41:12.690
james murez: Let goes left goes puppet start over it's only let's be fair okay i'm going to take off 10 seconds from.

992
01:41:12.690 --> 01:41:14.580
Daffodil Tyminski: Is my apologies, good puppet.

993
01:41:14.850 --> 01:41:19.500
james murez: you're allowed that you're allowed to talk about anything about Freddie or anybody else you want, as long as she can.

994
01:41:20.400 --> 01:41:21.150
Daffodil Tyminski: Talk about Freddie.

995
01:41:21.420 --> 01:41:40.320
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: I will, I will add that to the damages claim that's going to be file but Friday has good news to tell you something Freddie if you're there, can you please tell the board the good news that volunteer board members are not employees of the city of Los Angeles.

996
01:41:42.060 --> 01:41:58.950
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: Watch yes that's correct Freddie has good news for all of you, you are not subject to the federal, employment, housing, act because you board members are unpaid volunteers so you're not liable under up the ha let's give you all a hand.

997
01:42:02.520 --> 01:42:03.960
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: However, oh.

998
01:42:05.190 --> 01:42:13.200
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: If you violated somebody's civil rights, you can be sued individually and the city doesn't have to defend you ready take it away.

999
01:42:20.520 --> 01:42:22.620
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks good and Helen fallon go ahead.

1000
01:42:28.170 --> 01:42:28.590
Daffodil Tyminski: Ellen.

1001
01:42:28.950 --> 01:42:29.760
Helen Fallon: yeah sorry.

1002
01:42:31.680 --> 01:42:37.170
Helen Fallon: I would just like to comment that it would be very helpful and probably as necessary for the public.

1003
01:42:37.620 --> 01:42:48.930
Helen Fallon: That you would click on the links when you're discussing emotion or agenda item, because those are in fact the supporting documents and by not sharing the supporting documents.

1004
01:42:49.620 --> 01:42:59.850
Helen Fallon: There ends up being board discussion we're comments are made that are not even factual I just take the last motion Clark asked a question about when how long this thing went on.

1005
01:43:00.240 --> 01:43:08.370
Helen Fallon: There were statements, implying that went on through the end of January, but the supporting documents as the ending date is January six so.

1006
01:43:09.420 --> 01:43:20.700
Helen Fallon: It wasted a whole lot of time, having a whole lot of speeches about something that isn't true and influencing the vote and i'm factual way so start clicking on the supporting documents and sharing all the information.

1007
01:43:20.970 --> 01:43:26.130
Helen Fallon: it's it's apparent that word numbers don't read the supporting documents, thank you.

1008
01:43:28.470 --> 01:43:30.450
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Helen please rate.

1009
01:43:34.620 --> 01:43:40.290
Elizabeth Wright: Yes, I apologize for jumping the gun earlier when I thought it was public comment.

1010
01:43:40.590 --> 01:43:50.400
Elizabeth Wright: In general, and it wasn't i've mentioned, I mentioned turning turning off the phones and I mentioned the errors in the agenda that really need to be.

1011
01:43:51.480 --> 01:44:04.980
Elizabeth Wright: out by time you get to the board meeting and also, I would like to know when is the start time, or is there a regular start time, do we really have to set aside some time between six and seven.

1012
01:44:07.980 --> 01:44:08.970
Elizabeth Wright: Firm time would be good.

1013
01:44:10.320 --> 01:44:11.190
Elizabeth Wright: Thank you very much.

1014
01:44:13.410 --> 01:44:15.000
Elizabeth Wright: And I do like the agenda.

1015
01:44:16.410 --> 01:44:17.490
Elizabeth Wright: Just about the errors.

1016
01:44:18.480 --> 01:44:20.100
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, less we're working on it.

1017
01:44:21.270 --> 01:44:22.140
Daffodil Tyminski: Margaret.

1018
01:44:22.350 --> 01:44:23.520
Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead.

1019
01:44:25.260 --> 01:44:40.290
Margaret Molloy: So it's kind of problematic that there are anti on housed agenda items tonight when is against sidewalks when is against are these and one is against vehicles.

1020
01:44:41.370 --> 01:44:47.430
Margaret Molloy: So what options are you offering for people who are unhappy I mean It just seems very hateful.

1021
01:44:48.150 --> 01:44:57.780
Margaret Molloy: And recently your President, Mr ramirez said, and really derogatory term about proposed supportive housing in Venice.

1022
01:44:58.470 --> 01:45:14.070
Margaret Molloy: i've filed a complaint on that there's a new documentary called Venice unzipped again Mr muir as is characterized right in the middle of that documentary making a really hateful comments against the unhealthy so just be on notice.

1023
01:45:16.560 --> 01:45:29.160
Margaret Molloy: Is a thing that doesn't go away we're watching we're listening we're offended and you're on public platforms you've given me the finger twice in public settings Mr miras one.

1024
01:45:29.160 --> 01:45:30.000
Daffodil Tyminski: Key Margaret.

1025
01:45:31.380 --> 01:45:33.600
Daffodil Tyminski: And then Eric Mr go ahead.

1026
01:45:41.430 --> 01:45:41.940
Erica Moore: hear me.

1027
01:45:42.510 --> 01:45:44.340
Erica Moore: yep hi.

1028
01:45:44.700 --> 01:45:47.340
Daffodil Tyminski: Can you hear me, yes or no, we can hear you.

1029
01:45:47.760 --> 01:45:56.370
Erica Moore: i'm not Okay, well, I hope you can hear me I couldn't no response, I just wanted to thank you very much for the new agenda, I think it is definitely.

1030
01:45:56.850 --> 01:46:02.850
Erica Moore: Much nicer to read and i'm sure you will get all the bugs worked out soon, I wanted to.

1031
01:46:03.360 --> 01:46:10.350
Erica Moore: Invite anybody to really participate in what's going on in East Venice, also because we're important to.

1032
01:46:10.770 --> 01:46:21.030
Erica Moore: there's a lot going on about the pin bar renovation it's on rose, and I think that all of you might be interested in checking out what that's about because.

1033
01:46:21.450 --> 01:46:29.280
Erica Moore: they're going to be redoing the whole exterior area, which is quite large it's about walkability etc and i'll just finish by saying.

1034
01:46:29.670 --> 01:46:46.140
Erica Moore: You know i'm in the business of working with elderly people for food and the unhealthy and, if you want some food for oakland I get lots of donations I just gave away 30 pounds of fresh salmon today and i'd love to get some people in oakland I just need somebody to reach out to me.

1035
01:46:46.500 --> 01:46:53.460
Daffodil Tyminski: thanks you guys can take it offline well we'll talk um and Friday go ahead.

1036
01:46:56.820 --> 01:47:02.310
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Hello how's it going all right, I just want you to know that I emailed the whole board my report.

1037
01:47:03.150 --> 01:47:13.170
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): So you have every detail of it, I would like to read apart any board member who may have a conflict of interest and has not consulted with the office of the city attorney should move.

1038
01:47:13.470 --> 01:47:22.710
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): to have the matter tabled until the next meeting, so that the board member has an opportunity to consult with the city attorney's office if the board the clients that table the matter.

1039
01:47:23.640 --> 01:47:29.190
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): For example, item 29 which has been brought up in recent emails by the city attorney.

1040
01:47:29.640 --> 01:47:39.720
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): The Board Member may want to consider recusal prior to this matter being discussed if choosing to accuse them board members should state for the record, all reasons for the recusals.

1041
01:47:40.140 --> 01:47:48.750
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): And that they will be leaving the meeting during the discussion and voting because recusal may not always be sufficient tabling of the matter at issue is always preferred.

1042
01:47:49.050 --> 01:47:54.780
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): To allow time for the board member to consult with the city attorney's office i'd also like the state that.

1043
01:47:55.320 --> 01:48:00.420
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Now we have four total new nas that are being hired in on boarded.

1044
01:48:00.780 --> 01:48:10.440
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): and hopefully by February, they will be getting there and sees so there's going to be some shifts I do not know how that will affect my mcs by know they'll affect our department moving forward.

1045
01:48:10.860 --> 01:48:20.100
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Also January 1 is the deadline to complete and the anti bias, training and the planning, one on one training, if you are part of the planning and land use committee.

1046
01:48:21.210 --> 01:48:27.210
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): At the empower la page, it shows a checkmark if you are part of the loop that committee, and if you completed it or have not.

1047
01:48:27.780 --> 01:48:39.240
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): But the anti bias training is very important because, after January 1 if you have not completed an ethics funding and or able, you will no longer be eligible to vote for funding items.

1048
01:48:39.600 --> 01:48:54.510
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Our peace if you are missing one of those three ethics funding or able, you will be considered in eligible for funding items, a code of conduct, if that is expired or missing, you will not be able to vote for any items.

1049
01:48:55.350 --> 01:49:08.850
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): So I just want to give you that heads up from this extended deadline that has happened twice so January 1 of next year is the new and final extension of the deadline for neighborhood Councils, other than that.

1050
01:49:10.110 --> 01:49:11.970
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): The digital media policy.

1051
01:49:14.640 --> 01:49:23.640
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): They had their discussion at the monday's bank meeting they are going to try to move it forward by January and finalize it.

1052
01:49:25.440 --> 01:49:27.810
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): and digital communications policy as well.

1053
01:49:28.890 --> 01:49:37.890
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): it's still trying to finish that other than that, if you have any questions from the report, I sent you please email me back and i'll try to answer any and all questions you might have.

1054
01:49:39.510 --> 01:49:50.490
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): And thank you again i'm sorry I thought it was at seven o'clock I had on my calendar, so when I checked again the agenda was six o'clock I was shocked so i'm sorry I missed that first part.

1055
01:49:51.450 --> 01:49:55.470
Daffodil Tyminski: No worries Friday Thank you so much, and we'll try to get you back on government reports.

1056
01:49:57.300 --> 01:49:59.430
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm Lisa redmond go ahead.

1057
01:50:07.770 --> 01:50:08.340
Daffodil Tyminski: Please Lisa.

1058
01:50:08.730 --> 01:50:09.510
Lisa Redmond: Now i'm ready.

1059
01:50:09.930 --> 01:50:10.290
Okay.

1060
01:50:11.940 --> 01:50:18.270
Lisa Redmond: hey, I just wanted to point out that today is homeless persons Remembrance Day.

1061
01:50:19.080 --> 01:50:30.990
Lisa Redmond: It is always held every year on the first day of winter, which is the longest night of the year, more homeless people die in Los Angeles from exposure and cold, then in New York City in San Francisco combined.

1062
01:50:31.410 --> 01:50:51.510
Lisa Redmond: Nearly 1500 on house people have died in La during the first part of the pandemic from March 2020 through July 2021 This is like nearly five people a day i'm homeless deaths risen by 32% in 2020 over the previous year, which was just 13%.

1063
01:50:53.310 --> 01:50:59.550
Lisa Redmond: If you've got an agenda that's wall to wall of promo criminalizing homeless people and getting rid of the problem that way.

1064
01:51:00.000 --> 01:51:14.070
Lisa Redmond: What we really need to do is demand housing fun fact housing takes care of homelessness So if you care and are as compassionate about wanting people removed from the streets demand housing right and left, please, thank you.

1065
01:51:19.500 --> 01:51:26.070
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay um we have additional hands raised, but they were raised after we close public comments so Jim let's move on and try and avoid comment.

1066
01:51:26.640 --> 01:51:27.210
Okay.

1067
01:51:28.380 --> 01:51:29.220
james murez: Thank you bill.

1068
01:51:30.510 --> 01:51:33.840
james murez: um we don't have any board comment at this point we have.

1069
01:51:34.410 --> 01:51:50.820
james murez: Consent calendar so here was one of the items that I was mentioning early on that that the the numbering I had originally left off, that the consent items for 14 through 18 So those are now on the floor for consideration for consent.

1070
01:51:51.870 --> 01:52:09.990
james murez: 14 is street drainage rose avenue storm drain and actually on this one, let me just mention one thing this afternoon, I noticed that the city of St services was actually out cleaning out the cistern at the end of Thornton because of this exact issue.

1071
01:52:11.070 --> 01:52:17.460
james murez: The failure to clean these things, and how things became smelly repainting beach restrooms.

1072
01:52:19.410 --> 01:52:27.210
james murez: Design it install perch at the entrance of the Venice Pier and repainting of ocean front block.

1073
01:52:28.380 --> 01:52:35.130
james murez: easement lines for vendor spaces and repairing the lights at the Venice fishing.

1074
01:52:35.850 --> 01:52:41.310
james murez: Pier and I added the word in here beaches and harbors because that had been left out by the maker of the motion.

1075
01:52:41.760 --> 01:52:47.400
james murez: All except for this last 118 went through committee and we're all unanimous the last one seemed like a.

1076
01:52:47.820 --> 01:52:57.750
james murez: An obvious thing that we should just reach out and tell beaches in harper's that we want to have the five lights that are already there existing but light lamps themselves are not working to be repaired.

1077
01:53:00.150 --> 01:53:07.290
james murez: Does anybody want to pull anything off of the consent calendar general consent calendar If so, please raise your hand now.

1078
01:53:09.480 --> 01:53:12.180
james murez: Okay, we have one hand two hands up.

1079
01:53:13.980 --> 01:53:14.580
james murez: um.

1080
01:53:17.700 --> 01:53:22.530
james murez: How we were going to deal with this stuff until you have your hand up go ahead def no.

1081
01:53:24.060 --> 01:53:27.210
Daffodil Tyminski: um, I would like to pull off.

1082
01:53:28.290 --> 01:53:36.510
Daffodil Tyminski: Number 16 and number 18 sorry i'm reading that wrong, this is the lights on the Venice Pier and send that to the ocean front wall committee.

1083
01:53:37.200 --> 01:53:38.700
Daffodil Tyminski: And I say that.

1084
01:53:39.270 --> 01:53:43.800
Daffodil Tyminski: Because I had gotten some outreach that the lights could potentially be extremely bright.

1085
01:53:44.280 --> 01:53:45.480
Ivan: No comment allowed.

1086
01:53:46.650 --> 01:53:50.430
james murez: Thank you Ivan Thank you i'll just will pull it off.

1087
01:53:51.000 --> 01:53:57.600
james murez: Okay um and we have one speaker in the audience go ahead, goes puppet you want to speak.

1088
01:54:00.300 --> 01:54:10.470
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: on behalf of the team of free speech advocates don't pop it in parent word removes all items off the consent calendar.

1089
01:54:10.740 --> 01:54:15.510
james murez: So we have a policy do you have to give us some reason why you want to remove them.

1090
01:54:15.600 --> 01:54:18.870
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: Yes, of course, we want to remove number.

1091
01:54:18.870 --> 01:54:26.100
james murez: 14 1516 and 17 what what's the problem with 14.

1092
01:54:26.700 --> 01:54:29.460
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: See here oh i'm trying damage.

1093
01:54:29.820 --> 01:54:30.720
james murez: it's on the screen.

1094
01:54:31.230 --> 01:54:33.120
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: i'll put so much pressure on me animal.

1095
01:54:33.360 --> 01:54:34.230
james murez: it's on the screen.

1096
01:54:34.260 --> 01:54:36.150
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: He says what's on the screen damn.

1097
01:54:37.710 --> 01:54:49.620
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: He so let's see here 14 street drainage, well, I want to cross some of these drainage areas after it rained and nearly drowned de de it's very important to talk about.

1098
01:54:49.980 --> 01:54:51.030
james murez: What about 15.

1099
01:54:51.810 --> 01:54:52.350
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: Now, what about.

1100
01:54:54.120 --> 01:55:01.740
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: Retaining of the beach restrooms i'm against it because I think tagging should constitute aren't.

1101
01:55:02.700 --> 01:55:03.720
Daffodil Tyminski: Nice try but.

1102
01:55:03.780 --> 01:55:05.400
Daffodil Tyminski: It folder you move on.

1103
01:55:06.540 --> 01:55:11.100
james murez: Just a moment 16 go ahead, why do you want to take 16 or.

1104
01:55:13.980 --> 01:55:14.940
james murez: Can somebody mute him.

1105
01:55:15.120 --> 01:55:17.910
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: arch and stone arch.

1106
01:55:18.330 --> 01:55:20.070
james murez: A problem without the.

1107
01:55:20.130 --> 01:55:24.840
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: arch yes, I want the arch don't look like the one in St Louis.

1108
01:55:25.050 --> 01:55:25.620
james murez: Thank you.

1109
01:55:25.920 --> 01:55:30.180
james murez: I don't What about repainting the the ocean pro walkies bit lines.

1110
01:55:31.020 --> 01:55:32.430
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: Well, what about that.

1111
01:55:33.690 --> 01:55:39.960
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: Well, I don't have a problem with that Okay, thank you don't pull it off the agenda, I told you.

1112
01:55:40.590 --> 01:55:42.180
james murez: Okay, thank you so um.

1113
01:55:42.390 --> 01:55:49.470
james murez: I didn't hear any reasons that constitute us needing to take any of these off I listened to him i'm happy to entertain them when there.

1114
01:55:49.470 --> 01:55:51.180
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: Are other points of damages.

1115
01:55:52.230 --> 01:55:53.070
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: That okay.

1116
01:55:53.820 --> 01:55:56.340
james murez: If you interrupt again i'm going to remove you from the meeting.

1117
01:55:58.620 --> 01:55:59.190
james murez: um.

1118
01:56:01.080 --> 01:56:03.330
james murez: let's go ahead and take a vote on these.

1119
01:56:05.490 --> 01:56:06.930
melissadiner: There, there is no vote.

1120
01:56:06.930 --> 01:56:09.720
melissadiner: No, but its consent it's just passed and we.

1121
01:56:09.720 --> 01:56:10.530
james murez: Go back.

1122
01:56:10.650 --> 01:56:13.260
james murez: NICO you have your hand up did you have your hand up NICO.

1123
01:56:14.760 --> 01:56:16.770
james murez: Your head went down okay so.

1124
01:56:18.990 --> 01:56:26.430
james murez: If we don't take a vote, and it just passes then items 14.

1125
01:56:27.780 --> 01:56:29.700
melissadiner: it's just everything on consent, Jim.

1126
01:56:29.760 --> 01:56:30.030
melissadiner: On my.

1127
01:56:30.450 --> 01:56:31.050
james murez: calendar.

1128
01:56:31.170 --> 01:56:33.540
melissadiner: For exam for 16 that daffodil pulled.

1129
01:56:33.810 --> 01:56:36.600
james murez: 14 right so let's just make a quick note here.

1130
01:56:39.030 --> 01:56:44.670
james murez: At 818 is being forwarded to ocean for a walk.

1131
01:56:50.610 --> 01:56:51.510
james murez: Okay, great.

1132
01:56:51.810 --> 01:56:53.430
james robb: So you everybody, thank you.

1133
01:56:54.120 --> 01:56:56.100
james murez: Those all moved forward um.

1134
01:56:57.900 --> 01:57:05.280
james murez: Now we are on to land and planning consent items daffodil you have your hand up is that by accident.

1135
01:57:06.180 --> 01:57:07.800
Daffodil Tyminski: No apologies, I did not look.

1136
01:57:07.950 --> 01:57:09.450
Daffodil Tyminski: From the prior comments sorry.

1137
01:57:09.870 --> 01:57:20.430
james murez: um So here we have two items, again I added the word here at the top items 21 and 2221 20 and 21 or on concern next time we'll have the.

1138
01:57:21.570 --> 01:57:37.980
james murez: What do you call it the the items listed up here, but I didn't see the agenda got published without them so i'm just putting that out there and 22 somehow must have been submitted twice, because this item is exactly the same as this item.

1139
01:57:39.480 --> 01:57:53.670
james murez: That may have been something that happened when the item was pushed through the agenda request system, I don't know, but I just deleted it because there's no reason to deal with two items that are exactly the same, so these items 20 and 22 are.

1140
01:57:54.930 --> 01:57:57.420
james murez: Both unanimous vote said Lou Pack.

1141
01:57:59.310 --> 01:58:03.060
james murez: Do we have anybody that wants to pull anything off of the agenda on these.

1142
01:58:04.260 --> 01:58:05.160
raise your hand now.

1143
01:58:07.050 --> 01:58:07.470
it's for me.

1144
01:58:09.690 --> 01:58:10.980
james murez: Clark, did you have your hand up.

1145
01:58:11.010 --> 01:58:13.230
clark brown: Yes, I did is there an address for item.

1146
01:58:13.260 --> 01:58:18.810
Alix: 2020 any force 33 Brian.

1147
01:58:19.710 --> 01:58:23.820
james murez: it's right here i'm just trying to highlight it's line three right there you see that.

1148
01:58:24.840 --> 01:58:27.090
clark brown: highlighted oh yeah right you.

1149
01:58:27.510 --> 01:58:27.840
know.

1150
01:58:29.340 --> 01:58:36.240
james murez: um any other hands Clark put your hand down, please any other any other comments from anybody.

1151
01:58:37.470 --> 01:58:38.460
james murez: Okay, seeing none.

1152
01:58:39.540 --> 01:58:47.070
james murez: Items 20 and 21 are approved on consent oh wait Robert did you put your hand up afterwards, do you have something you want to say.

1153
01:58:47.400 --> 01:58:49.230
robertthibodeau: Only three was also unanimous.

1154
01:58:50.820 --> 01:58:56.700
Alix: 2023 was unanimous.

1155
01:58:56.730 --> 01:58:58.890
james murez: Oh you're right alright so let's let's uh.

1156
01:58:58.980 --> 01:58:59.730
Alix: Thanks Robert.

1157
01:59:00.480 --> 01:59:01.860
robertthibodeau: That one as well problem guys.

1158
01:59:02.460 --> 01:59:05.730
james murez: yeah that got messed up somehow here we come back.

1159
01:59:06.180 --> 01:59:07.410
Alix: Changes to.

1160
01:59:09.120 --> 01:59:15.420
melissadiner: 23 it's just all consign items that's what you call the question for that, but it is right.

1161
01:59:15.990 --> 01:59:19.410
james murez: So that's the question and there's no sections.

1162
01:59:20.700 --> 01:59:22.380
james murez: let's move on those all past.

1163
01:59:22.590 --> 01:59:25.710
Alix: I think there's one no that wasn't consent, yes.

1164
01:59:26.790 --> 01:59:28.740
james murez: You have other motions that we're not.

1165
01:59:28.740 --> 01:59:32.520
melissadiner: Concerned yeah there's one item that is not consent that's on regular bank.

1166
01:59:32.550 --> 01:59:34.440
james murez: that's right that's up next.

1167
01:59:34.980 --> 01:59:40.050
james murez: Great since it's 753 does anybody want to take a quick peek and see.

1168
01:59:41.100 --> 01:59:43.200
james murez: Senator Ben Ellen is in the audience yeah.

1169
01:59:45.600 --> 01:59:46.440
james murez: We have to kind of keep.

1170
01:59:46.470 --> 01:59:47.520
Daffodil Tyminski: I do not see that.

1171
01:59:48.660 --> 01:59:49.950
Alix: I don't see him gems.

1172
01:59:50.250 --> 01:59:51.420
james murez: Okay we'll come back.

1173
01:59:52.680 --> 01:59:59.640
james murez: um so now we're on to Item number 25, and this is 671 rose avenue elite, you want to take this one away.

1174
02:00:00.150 --> 02:00:03.750
Alix: Or, this is a groundwork that you guys sent back to the.

1175
02:00:04.920 --> 02:00:20.760
Alix: loop at committee at the last board meeting I think Barry who is staff on this is in the audience, so we may want to promote him and I don't know if if we have um I don't know the applicants i'm.

1176
02:00:23.940 --> 02:00:26.940
Alix: Very us here are coming.

1177
02:00:35.010 --> 02:00:35.280
Alix: No.

1178
02:00:36.720 --> 02:00:38.520
Daffodil Tyminski: barriers is raise i'm trying to.

1179
02:00:38.550 --> 02:00:39.150
james murez: get one.

1180
02:00:39.300 --> 02:00:42.360
james murez: And why don't we why don't we promote i'm going to promote very to be.

1181
02:00:42.840 --> 02:00:43.140
Alix: him.

1182
02:00:43.440 --> 02:00:48.180
Alix: He can basically um you know we asked.

1183
02:00:48.540 --> 02:00:49.290
Ivan: A week's hang.

1184
02:00:49.350 --> 02:00:53.670
Ivan: hang on one second please Jim you need to get emotional and the second on this.

1185
02:00:54.120 --> 02:00:55.500
james murez: yeah so so.

1186
02:00:58.230 --> 02:00:58.620
Alix: That is.

1187
02:00:59.160 --> 02:01:02.430
Alix: also recommends denial of the project as presented.

1188
02:01:02.550 --> 02:01:04.440
james murez: Thank you um do we have a second.

1189
02:01:04.800 --> 02:01:05.430
melissadiner: i'll second that.

1190
02:01:05.610 --> 02:01:07.230
Alix: Melissa Melissa.

1191
02:01:07.800 --> 02:01:08.250
Ivan: Thank you.

1192
02:01:08.730 --> 02:01:14.670
james murez: Okay, thank you um now let's let's let them bury he's now a panelist Barry you want to go ahead and present the.

1193
02:01:15.120 --> 02:01:21.540
Alix: gym I just need to give some context quickly, so the applicant was sort of very resistant in in coming to our meetings.

1194
02:01:21.870 --> 02:01:26.970
Alix: They came to the first with tech meeting, where we presented this we asked him to come to the board meeting.

1195
02:01:27.210 --> 02:01:34.050
Alix: They didn't that's why this was turned back, we asked him to come back to the next loop tech meeting because there were questions that came in from a lot of.

1196
02:01:34.380 --> 02:01:46.410
Alix: People in the in the board and in the public they didn't come back they felt they had already done public comment and as of right now and Barry can confirm this, I don't believe they're at our board meeting tonight.

1197
02:01:46.770 --> 02:01:50.850
james murez: Okay well let's just ask the question real quick is the applicant of this project in the board.

1198
02:01:53.640 --> 02:01:56.460
james murez: What do you call it in the in the attendee list.

1199
02:01:58.470 --> 02:01:58.920
james murez: Please.

1200
02:01:59.460 --> 02:02:04.560
james murez: If you're here raise your hand, please very do you want to make any kind of a presentation on this project.

1201
02:02:07.470 --> 02:02:09.390
james murez: area areas know unmute yourself.

1202
02:02:15.120 --> 02:02:16.890
james murez: Okay, no comment.

1203
02:02:17.910 --> 02:02:19.200
james murez: let's go to public comment.

1204
02:02:21.720 --> 02:02:23.040
Daffodil Tyminski: We have goat puppet.

1205
02:02:25.020 --> 02:02:26.040
Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead go love it.

1206
02:02:32.700 --> 02:02:35.760
james murez: goes puppet did you wish to speak your hand is up.

1207
02:02:36.750 --> 02:02:53.460
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: It will know you just raised it, he he is so Alex attempted nine times to get this person to show up and they didn't show up so she's moving to deny the project.

1208
02:02:54.690 --> 02:03:02.220
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: That sounds reasonable to me, yes, it does, but tonight don't puppet was accosted by this board.

1209
02:03:02.820 --> 02:03:13.350
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: So now, unless I get an apology gun puppet will support all corrupt development and Venice, I move that the project be approved.

1210
02:03:13.980 --> 02:03:31.410
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: restitution damages to the fine employer of the developer and baby build every goddamn fucking thing you can build good pop up will be out of this bulldozer helping the developers redirect development, all the way to.

1211
02:03:31.710 --> 02:03:34.830
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: wealth and back the canals up with dirt.

1212
02:03:35.970 --> 02:03:38.010
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: sucker I tried right.

1213
02:03:41.130 --> 02:03:42.930
james murez: Okay, I think that was less public comment.

1214
02:03:43.830 --> 02:03:45.480
Daffodil Tyminski: I would close public comment, yes.

1215
02:03:45.510 --> 02:03:45.810
james murez: Thank you.

1216
02:03:47.460 --> 02:03:49.440
james murez: Okay, any board comments on the side of.

1217
02:03:51.540 --> 02:03:52.680
james murez: Anybody have their hand up.

1218
02:03:55.500 --> 02:03:56.670
james murez: Clark go ahead, please.

1219
02:03:56.850 --> 02:03:59.790
clark brown: what's the reason for denial, other than the fact that the applicant.

1220
02:04:00.990 --> 02:04:09.930
clark brown: consistently stood up loop back that's a procedural problem, but I don't see how it goes to the merits of why this thing should be denied.

1221
02:04:11.790 --> 02:04:24.180
james murez: So typically when there's questions that have not been answered the applicants required to answer the question, and if the applicants not there to answer the question.

1222
02:04:25.290 --> 02:04:28.410
james murez: it's as though they don't want the answers to be no.

1223
02:04:30.810 --> 02:04:31.860
Alix: And I might jump in and.

1224
02:04:31.920 --> 02:04:40.590
Alix: add that this has been a project that as def def pointed out in our last meeting has had a lot of Community concerns about it.

1225
02:04:41.940 --> 02:04:48.060
Alix: we've asked the applicant we've had concerns and questions an applicant has been very reluctant to.

1226
02:04:49.470 --> 02:05:00.600
Alix: To engage in the neighborhood Council Forum and the applicant also incorrectly stated that they were on our agenda in May or June as of this past year, which they were.

1227
02:05:00.660 --> 02:05:01.590
Ivan: That is correct.

1228
02:05:01.800 --> 02:05:07.530
Alix: But they pulled themselves off the agenda because they weren't ready and there were still changes going on to the project.

1229
02:05:08.430 --> 02:05:12.420
james murez: Thank you ollie I want to move the I want to keep moving forward, I think we got the picture.

1230
02:05:12.690 --> 02:05:13.650
james murez: yeah so so.

1231
02:05:14.160 --> 02:05:16.740
Daffodil Tyminski: Jim berry berry is.

1232
02:05:17.160 --> 02:05:22.740
Daffodil Tyminski: Raising his audience raising his hand I don't know that he got promoted to a panelist before but i'm promoted him now.

1233
02:05:23.010 --> 02:05:24.930
vickihalliday: i'm glad to hear what Barry has to say.

1234
02:05:25.350 --> 02:05:31.920
james murez: Okay, I I called on him earlier he he didn't respond so very do you want to go ahead and say something.

1235
02:05:37.830 --> 02:05:39.000
barrycassilly: Very you.

1236
02:05:40.020 --> 02:05:41.550
james murez: There you are very.

1237
02:05:42.240 --> 02:05:59.850
barrycassilly: um yeah I can't really present for anyone else's project that's like pretty much ridiculous um and I do have to say, this has been very frustrating um we're trying to do a good job with staff reports that loop back um.

1238
02:06:00.930 --> 02:06:14.640
barrycassilly: The applicants were scheduled for a meeting earlier in the year in I think it was June arm, they were pulled from the agenda, they don't really know why.

1239
02:06:16.350 --> 02:06:20.790
barrycassilly: They say they were ready, but they did come to our.

1240
02:06:21.930 --> 02:06:26.820
barrycassilly: Meeting two meetings ago and presented, we approve them.

1241
02:06:28.290 --> 02:06:42.630
barrycassilly: And then evidently I wasn't at the last dnc meeting I didn't log in there were questions raised at the dmc meeting that weren't raised at our meeting, so the the item was sent back to us.

1242
02:06:43.650 --> 02:06:55.650
barrycassilly: Neither the applicant nor anyone who had issues showed up to speak about anything um so.

1243
02:06:57.030 --> 02:07:04.770
barrycassilly: Most of the vote, most of the little peck board voted to disapprove the project in that context.

1244
02:07:05.280 --> 02:07:23.790
barrycassilly: I think I was the only person voted to approve it, but that wasn't because I liked the project I just felt like the the process had become dysfunctional and I do know that there's a ton of support for ground works opening.

1245
02:07:25.380 --> 02:07:38.190
barrycassilly: in the manner that they're proposing in the Community, I also know that there are some nearby neighbors who object to certain aspects of.

1246
02:07:39.150 --> 02:07:59.940
barrycassilly: How they're trying to reopen, but that has not been clearly communicated to me or to loop back so honestly I really don't know what to do here um we're doing the best we can, and so i'm not going to present for this project that's like not my job.

1247
02:08:01.110 --> 02:08:06.120
james murez: Okay, thank you very let's go back to board comment NICO you have your hand up.

1248
02:08:08.040 --> 02:08:19.860
Nico Ruderman: yeah I don't know if anybody's willing or able to answer this question i'm just curious what what's the the mean it's been stated there's a lot of Community concerns about this project i'm curious what those concerns are.

1249
02:08:21.570 --> 02:08:24.870
Nico Ruderman: And I don't know if if Barry or elites as willing or able to answer.

1250
02:08:25.500 --> 02:08:35.340
barrycassilly: I i've informally heard some concerns um but you know informally like somebody talking to me.

1251
02:08:36.300 --> 02:08:51.090
barrycassilly: is very different from somebody coming to the meeting and saying I have this concern and everybody getting into hear about it and there being an answer or not an answer, and then we take that into consideration, so.

1252
02:08:53.040 --> 02:08:53.460
barrycassilly: You know.

1253
02:08:53.820 --> 02:08:58.500
Nico Ruderman: I just I mean I guess My point is, I have a problem with people seeing their concerns without stating what those concerns.

1254
02:08:58.500 --> 02:08:59.880
Nico Ruderman: Are I think that's very.

1255
02:09:03.750 --> 02:09:12.720
Alix: hold on excuse me very I can speak to some of that there were concerns from the Community, there was a there was a I guess a land use person or lawyer hired.

1256
02:09:13.050 --> 02:09:20.760
Alix: to appeal this and there were concerns about the dollars, because they're going to be essentially like ghost kitchens and I think that was addressed and then it's.

1257
02:09:21.840 --> 02:09:23.730
barrycassilly: Not none of those things were addressed.

1258
02:09:24.090 --> 02:09:27.060
barrycassilly: For us, you know, nobody.

1259
02:09:27.090 --> 02:09:31.140
james murez: Like a very, very, very we gotta we gotta keep this moving.

1260
02:09:32.190 --> 02:09:34.560
james murez: something to say say it let's let's try.

1261
02:09:35.640 --> 02:09:44.220
Alix: i'm trying to answer nico's questions and, yes, those those concerns were addressed, because you and I, and members of loop heck were made aware of a letter.

1262
02:09:45.090 --> 02:09:57.960
Alix: With earns from I think it was Steve Jim was it Steve shoe or anyway it doesn't matter, it was it was sent to us, and I believe john reed had some concerns that he sent to us as well, too, and I believe, at the last meeting.

1263
02:09:58.980 --> 02:10:14.040
Alix: Jim you and daffodil raise concerns about parking and airing of math and bathrooms and all sorts of things, because this is now commercial so these were these were different things that were mentioned to us, both at the meeting in email at the board meeting.

1264
02:10:14.070 --> 02:10:29.610
barrycassilly: No, not at the meeting Greg and john raised issues john's a friend of mine um but if if somebody has issues it's their responsibility to show up and like say say that.

1265
02:10:29.820 --> 02:10:33.150
barrycassilly: We have Mary i'm very i'm going to interrupt you, I was at the last.

1266
02:10:33.150 --> 02:10:41.190
james murez: meeting and I raised several issues they were short, I believe it was 14 parking spaces and they were grandfathered in 28 or something.

1267
02:10:41.550 --> 02:10:49.890
james murez: There was a report that was submitted to loop back by Greg shoop, who was a senior planner for the city of Los Angeles, for over 30 years that stated.

1268
02:10:50.430 --> 02:10:56.670
james murez: A dozen different things there's no delineation between the restaurant and the retail space and they're counting the.

1269
02:10:56.970 --> 02:11:01.140
james murez: The wholesale kitchen that's there now that's strictly a catering kitchen.

1270
02:11:01.380 --> 02:11:13.410
james murez: And they're planning on on double dipping on the parking spaces, claiming that they don't have to provide parking for that anymore, because now, they have a restaurant use where they're going to continue to the old use as well, there were a whole bunch of issues.

1271
02:11:13.470 --> 02:11:16.350
barrycassilly: And then maybe maybe there's merit to all these issues.

1272
02:11:16.380 --> 02:11:17.340
james murez: yeah they're all there.

1273
02:11:17.430 --> 02:11:18.210
barrycassilly: And no.

1274
02:11:18.570 --> 02:11:21.660
barrycassilly: point, though, very I don't want to bury I don't want to argue with you.

1275
02:11:22.260 --> 02:11:25.050
james murez: Those were all issues, the price was.

1276
02:11:25.110 --> 02:11:26.460
barrycassilly: We were not issues.

1277
02:11:26.610 --> 02:11:36.030
barrycassilly: Very before our committee, I spoke to Greg shoot on the phone I went to the like planning hearing where Greg shoot spoke.

1278
02:11:36.480 --> 02:11:53.790
barrycassilly: Because there was no communication to find out more about what he had to say Greg did not show up to speak before our committee really nobody else did there are these concerns, but you know people have a responsibility to come to the meeting and like say, well, thank.

1279
02:11:53.850 --> 02:11:56.910
james murez: You Thank you Barry i've heard you okay i'm gonna mute you know.

1280
02:11:58.620 --> 02:12:10.470
james murez: NICO there were issues that were raised you just have to either go with it or not, with it, the committee voted 510 to deny the project.

1281
02:12:11.820 --> 02:12:13.470
james murez: Melissa do you have you have your hand up.

1282
02:12:15.570 --> 02:12:22.200
melissadiner: yeah I just think that this is a what I would consider by most like a beloved Venice.

1283
02:12:23.520 --> 02:12:36.990
melissadiner: coffee shop I don't want to make our get into like assuming what they're going to do with this new change, I think, maybe we should just continue to give them the benefit of the doubt it's been a tough year for restaurants.

1284
02:12:37.530 --> 02:12:43.050
melissadiner: and try and get them before loop back before we deny it, and kick them when they're down.

1285
02:12:44.040 --> 02:12:52.920
melissadiner: I also personally like when we're talking about like parking requirements on all you know, especially commercial restaurant type situations.

1286
02:12:53.340 --> 02:13:04.620
melissadiner: The mayor's made it very clear that these outdoor dining areas that are taking up parking are here and definitely so like I don't think we need to take up space with that they're getting that support.

1287
02:13:04.890 --> 02:13:17.760
melissadiner: From the government's above us, so we should take that into consideration and not spend so much time on parking requirements when that's not going away for a long time, but I think we should potentially just.

1288
02:13:19.200 --> 02:13:28.800
melissadiner: make a motion to not take a vote on this, that could hurt a business that I think most of us patron and want to continue to see succeed until we can understand what's going on.

1289
02:13:30.270 --> 02:13:31.890
james murez: Okay, thank you, Melissa Clark point.

1290
02:13:32.340 --> 02:13:43.110
clark brown: I don't think it can deny the permit for failure to appear unless there's a showing that the committee first clearly communicated to the applicant and it had these concerns ABC and D.

1291
02:13:43.590 --> 02:13:59.670
clark brown: And then, at the applicant fails to appear I think that's a fair influence that his answers are truthful be harmful to his claws and the committee would be justified and in inferring that.

1292
02:14:01.740 --> 02:14:06.510
clark brown: Because the answers will not be helpful to him, and therefore the the application should be denied.

1293
02:14:06.810 --> 02:14:08.760
clark brown: Think right now we don't have any evidence.

1294
02:14:09.060 --> 02:14:10.230
james murez: Thank you, I got it.

1295
02:14:10.260 --> 02:14:10.650
clark brown: cool.

1296
02:14:11.040 --> 02:14:18.360
james murez: Thank you, I got it Okay, so at this point, we have a motion on the floor to do the neither project is presented.

1297
02:14:18.540 --> 02:14:18.930
melissadiner: I don't.

1298
02:14:19.020 --> 02:14:22.050
james murez: either vote this project, we can either vote this motion.

1299
02:14:22.080 --> 02:14:34.620
james murez: up or down if we voted down, meaning that we're not going to deny the project, then the question is, are we going to have an alternate motion that does something or are we just going to go with it unsaid.

1300
02:14:35.130 --> 02:14:43.620
james murez: Right now, it would go unsaid, if we do not have an alternate motion, so the first question is, do we want to vote this motion to.

1301
02:14:44.730 --> 02:14:46.560
Alix: be approved or disapproved.

1302
02:14:46.770 --> 02:14:47.280
james murez: yeah.

1303
02:14:47.550 --> 02:14:48.360
Alix: it's the leaks here.

1304
02:14:48.450 --> 02:14:49.380
james murez: Really quick.

1305
02:14:49.770 --> 02:14:57.660
Alix: Really quick I would personally go back to the original motion that we had from the last board meeting, which I think was reasonable.

1306
02:14:57.900 --> 02:15:00.720
james murez: We have a motion on the floor right now we can't do that.

1307
02:15:01.110 --> 02:15:04.110
Alix: Okay well that's what I would go to you with this one doesn't pass.

1308
02:15:04.170 --> 02:15:05.940
james murez: Thank you um.

1309
02:15:05.970 --> 02:15:07.470
james murez: So let's take a boat.

1310
02:15:09.210 --> 02:15:09.810
i'm.

1311
02:15:11.010 --> 02:15:15.270
Andrea Boccaletti: Wait doesn't doesn't have that right to make that motion right now that was she was just talking about.

1312
02:15:15.270 --> 02:15:17.550
james murez: Now well she could make an alternate motion.

1313
02:15:17.850 --> 02:15:18.300
amendment.

1314
02:15:19.980 --> 02:15:20.130
Alix: ocean.

1315
02:15:20.250 --> 02:15:22.260
james murez: I made you have the alternate motion to make.

1316
02:15:23.280 --> 02:15:25.140
Alix: i'm going to pull it up and read it for you yeah.

1317
02:15:26.130 --> 02:15:29.010
james murez: Well i'm not gonna write it down it's probably much too long.

1318
02:15:31.140 --> 02:15:33.690
melissadiner: it's fine I can pull it off the last thing.

1319
02:15:36.000 --> 02:15:36.780
melissadiner: Last agenda.

1320
02:15:38.190 --> 02:15:39.180
james murez: Ivan What do you say.

1321
02:15:39.240 --> 02:15:44.940
Ivan: To them well they didn't she mentioned she wanted a habit postponed.

1322
02:15:45.810 --> 02:15:47.310
james murez: Who who she.

1323
02:15:47.580 --> 02:15:49.980
Ivan: Somebody in the discussion, I thought it went to a week.

1324
02:15:50.400 --> 02:15:53.760
Ivan: No combine talked about maybe.

1325
02:15:54.390 --> 02:15:56.400
melissadiner: yeah but I didn't make a motion on that yeah.

1326
02:15:56.970 --> 02:15:57.750
Alix: No i'm gonna read.

1327
02:15:57.960 --> 02:16:03.990
Alix: alternate motion the Venice neighborhood Council recommends approval of the project as presented with the following conditions.

1328
02:16:04.470 --> 02:16:13.680
Alix: hours of unload of loading and unloading to be limited for LM AC ordinance number 166 point 514 see below hours of operation of the.

1329
02:16:14.580 --> 02:16:23.280
Alix: restaurant to match the most typical hours of operation, on the other, restaurants along the road corridor, and you can see if you go to the agenda, what the.

1330
02:16:24.780 --> 02:16:36.870
Alix: MC ordinances which is it you'll be unlawful for any person between the hours of 10pm and 7am of the following day to load or unload any vehicle or operate any dollies carts forklifts or other wheeled equipment.

1331
02:16:37.620 --> 02:16:44.370
Alix: which causes eddie impulsive sound raucous or unnecessary noises within 20 feet 200 feet, excuse me of a residential building.

1332
02:16:47.220 --> 02:16:49.230
soledad ursua: i'll second that motion soda.

1333
02:16:49.680 --> 02:16:50.550
Alix: Thank you so.

1334
02:16:53.610 --> 02:16:55.290
james murez: That was on which which agenda.

1335
02:16:55.980 --> 02:16:56.610
November.

1336
02:16:59.310 --> 02:17:00.390
james murez: You know what item, it was.

1337
02:17:01.140 --> 02:17:03.570
Alix: It was it 10 a.

1338
02:17:21.450 --> 02:17:22.650
Ivan: preferred motion.

1339
02:17:23.130 --> 02:17:26.970
Alix: Yes, that is my preferred motion that is the notion that originally past.

1340
02:17:27.120 --> 02:17:28.590
Ivan: September okay.

1341
02:17:28.710 --> 02:17:29.880
Alix: And that is my alternate motion.

1342
02:17:32.940 --> 02:17:33.360
Ivan: alright.

1343
02:17:34.770 --> 02:17:42.330
Ivan: So, Jim yes it's up to you, if you want, if you want to accept that as an alternate motion.

1344
02:17:45.150 --> 02:17:47.880
Ivan: worsted whichever one you're going with.

1345
02:17:47.970 --> 02:17:51.180
james murez: It was first and second did it was first and by.

1346
02:17:51.990 --> 02:17:52.410
james murez: Next.

1347
02:17:52.500 --> 02:17:54.840
james murez: Week seconded by solid.

1348
02:17:55.140 --> 02:17:59.460
Ivan: Alright, then then go ahead and take a vote on promotion.

1349
02:18:00.990 --> 02:18:02.190
Ivan: and see where you are.

1350
02:18:04.650 --> 02:18:06.420
Ivan: Then that becomes the motion.

1351
02:18:06.630 --> 02:18:10.440
melissadiner: But we don't have to take public comment and board comment on this one we do.

1352
02:18:10.980 --> 02:18:14.190
Ivan: Know you've already had public comment on the item.

1353
02:18:14.610 --> 02:18:18.570
melissadiner: I think that there, though this is a totally different motion and I.

1354
02:18:18.600 --> 02:18:33.330
melissadiner: believe there is something that needs to be discussed, I don't want to take a long time here, but like there's some things that need to be team mentioned, this is a coffee shop that opens at 6am and we're limiting them if they're using this as their ghost kitchen, for all their.

1355
02:18:34.920 --> 02:18:36.450
Ivan: Okay, so Jim.

1356
02:18:37.200 --> 02:18:39.060
Ivan: Yes, all right.

1357
02:18:39.390 --> 02:18:41.970
Daffodil Tyminski: You guys, I have my hand raised.

1358
02:18:42.030 --> 02:18:43.200
Daffodil Tyminski: Can I just weigh in.

1359
02:18:43.500 --> 02:18:44.460
Ivan: On let me, let me.

1360
02:18:44.520 --> 02:19:02.700
Ivan: Let me find a shortcut all right, you you you got a legitimate mode of alternate motion on the floor like suggest that you go ahead, open reopen public comment reopen board comments and goes proceed with this item at this point.

1361
02:19:04.020 --> 02:19:05.550
Ivan: To what the board one could do with it.

1362
02:19:05.760 --> 02:19:16.530
Alix: Will list up just so you understand it's not saying that they can't operate it serves them, they just can't do they're loading and unloading and everything else, and I don't even know that they open at 6am.

1363
02:19:16.860 --> 02:19:32.100
melissadiner: I point is if they're using it as a ghost kitchen from a restaurant operational standpoint that's not realistic, they open and like you're they're going to be loading out to send things to the other and i'm making that assumption, based on the limited information we have.

1364
02:19:32.400 --> 02:19:36.270
melissadiner: So, like I don't want to go through this i'm just trying to make sure that's realistic.

1365
02:19:36.300 --> 02:19:40.710
Alix: right because realistically there wasn't 200 feet of residential buildings.

1366
02:19:40.890 --> 02:19:47.130
Alix: And that's la MC code, so it doesn't matter what we think or not we're just saying enforce the code.

1367
02:19:47.340 --> 02:19:48.000
melissadiner: Okay well.

1368
02:19:48.210 --> 02:19:50.280
Ivan: We can do that I don't care enough to.

1369
02:19:50.280 --> 02:19:50.520
melissadiner: Like.

1370
02:19:50.550 --> 02:19:52.620
Ivan: change it, I will agree with sure.

1371
02:19:52.770 --> 02:19:53.070
james murez: yeah.

1372
02:19:53.640 --> 02:19:56.640
Ivan: Time out what motion they're gonna be discussion and.

1373
02:19:57.390 --> 02:20:02.190
james murez: This is this is getting way out of hand down for you have your hand up.

1374
02:20:03.540 --> 02:20:12.450
Daffodil Tyminski: Well, I was just gonna say I mean the initial problem with these applicants, as if they were operating 24 seven and so.

1375
02:20:13.200 --> 02:20:23.910
Daffodil Tyminski: They were literally loading, unloading at 1am at 2am 3am and 4pm and they are completely surrounded on all sides by other residential buildings.

1376
02:20:24.300 --> 02:20:37.230
Daffodil Tyminski: So when they are load and unload they claim bakery you know those bakery racks and trays and things like that they were using this location illegally for years.

1377
02:20:37.740 --> 02:20:52.500
Daffodil Tyminski: As the basis for their entire ground works operation, they were baking like everything here and sending out, so the other bakeries so hey I just think this applicant has zero credibility because they've literally.

1378
02:20:53.670 --> 02:20:55.740
Daffodil Tyminski: been torturing the neighborhood for years.

1379
02:20:57.030 --> 02:21:00.720
Daffodil Tyminski: But I also think, with respect to this particular emotion.

1380
02:21:01.980 --> 02:21:04.860
Daffodil Tyminski: um I, I agree that you know the.

1381
02:21:04.890 --> 02:21:09.630
robertthibodeau: The see I think public comment before we import comment, I mean we're we've rolled into forthcoming.

1382
02:21:10.380 --> 02:21:11.910
robertthibodeau: yeah border border border here.

1383
02:21:12.120 --> 02:21:14.940
Daffodil Tyminski: I think you're already have public comment on this.

1384
02:21:14.940 --> 02:21:17.370
james murez: No, not on this motion, this is a completely new.

1385
02:21:17.370 --> 02:21:21.240
Daffodil Tyminski: wow okay well go ahead i'll restate it later and then.

1386
02:21:21.540 --> 02:21:22.470
Daffodil Tyminski: Once you publish them it.

1387
02:21:22.770 --> 02:21:24.150
james murez: Okay let's go through public.

1388
02:21:25.590 --> 02:21:26.850
Ivan: brochures on the for.

1389
02:21:27.840 --> 02:21:30.240
james murez: The alternate motion one that's on the screen right now.

1390
02:21:31.110 --> 02:21:35.070
Ivan: Okay, so go ahead and do public comment on that and then go back to the.

1391
02:21:35.070 --> 02:21:37.050
james murez: board Thank you Ivan we're doing that.

1392
02:21:37.110 --> 02:21:37.560
Okay.

1393
02:21:43.950 --> 02:21:44.550
james murez: Do you want to.

1394
02:21:46.020 --> 02:21:47.010
james murez: deal with public comment.

1395
02:21:47.970 --> 02:21:51.390
Daffodil Tyminski: Sure sorry i'm good puppet go ahead.

1396
02:21:55.980 --> 02:22:02.160
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: funny business a fine fine application yeah we should allow 24 hour delivery.

1397
02:22:03.420 --> 02:22:15.660
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: For those beautiful bagels and croissants in the morning, when you get up at 6am But to do that what is a gentleman, I have one of the delivery people here can you can you explain it.

1398
02:22:17.070 --> 02:22:37.260
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: yeah oh yeah I do deliveries and I gotta I gotta be there, like three o'clock in the morning um I drove up and I playing everything you know, and I brought my my backup there and I, and I put all the stuff in the back there, so I need 24 hour delivery god's special.

1399
02:22:39.060 --> 02:22:42.360
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks a lot um Lisa redmond go ahead.

1400
02:22:44.640 --> 02:22:55.530
Lisa Redmond: yeah it took me a minute to find the Minutes from last meeting to remember what happened here, because you kind of forgot to approved last month's meeting minutes on the meeting tonight.

1401
02:22:56.040 --> 02:23:06.090
Lisa Redmond: or prove the agenda for tonight so um but it's there seems to be a lot of fallacy that you sent it back to looping last month.

1402
02:23:06.990 --> 02:23:21.120
Lisa Redmond: And so it did, and so looping sends it back in differently, but yet now you've got you're making the same exact motion again that was set back last month, so I don't quite understand the circular thinking here.

1403
02:23:22.800 --> 02:23:25.470
Lisa Redmond: You guys need to figure this out thanks.

1404
02:23:26.940 --> 02:23:28.110
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks so much Lisa.

1405
02:23:30.000 --> 02:23:31.140
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm Margaret.

1406
02:23:33.120 --> 02:23:36.030
Daffodil Tyminski: Wait hold on trying to let you talk go ahead.

1407
02:23:37.170 --> 02:23:43.440
Margaret Molloy: i'm feeling so frustrating how you guys bicker without having a really clear project present.

1408
02:23:44.010 --> 02:23:54.360
Margaret Molloy: And that's the point of loop packets, the point of the various committees, so if we went back to loop back and it's completely unresolved and people are just.

1409
02:23:54.900 --> 02:24:05.970
Margaret Molloy: Stating opinions versus facts you're wasting our time and your time it's really disappointing and Melissa really don't appreciate you saying like let's not stick on.

1410
02:24:06.510 --> 02:24:17.430
Margaret Molloy: parking because of alfresco that expires in a couple months, you have developers on on this particular vm keyboard you know parking is everything in Venice.

1411
02:24:17.730 --> 02:24:24.600
Margaret Molloy: Its coastal access, so if you don't know the terrain, please don't comment arbitrarily on it, but.

1412
02:24:25.290 --> 02:24:37.740
Margaret Molloy: it's a very important issue I wish that you guys would be even handed you know when the waterfront came up I didn't hear you guys talking about the deficit parking it's shameful, but you know I expect corruption, thank you.

1413
02:24:40.650 --> 02:24:42.270
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay Helen fallin go ahead.

1414
02:24:46.170 --> 02:24:57.780
Helen Fallon: I would urge board members to remember that they were elected and should be voting in the interest and well being of the residence live near this project, and I cut the commercial enterprise.

1415
02:24:58.320 --> 02:25:06.360
Helen Fallon: The Board members are not elected to represent the specific business, the interests of a specific business so vote accordingly.

1416
02:25:09.330 --> 02:25:17.190
Helen Fallon: As was pointed out and went back to loop back they denied it I don't know why we're having an alternate notion, but always the alternate notion tries to address the.

1417
02:25:18.930 --> 02:25:34.380
Helen Fallon: Noise that is interfering with a well being and the end the peace and quiet of the neighboring residence and a business should not be disturbing residents in the middle of night those people have to get up and go to work to thank you.

1418
02:25:36.720 --> 02:25:38.700
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Helen Erica more go ahead.

1419
02:25:45.780 --> 02:25:46.140
Erica Moore: What.

1420
02:25:46.200 --> 02:25:46.320
Daffodil Tyminski: Are.

1421
02:25:46.950 --> 02:25:47.820
Daffodil Tyminski: You guys gonna.

1422
02:25:48.480 --> 02:25:57.930
Erica Moore: you're not so Okay, I echo what both Margaret and Helen said, and I would really strongly urge all of you, especially the people that keep questioning things.

1423
02:25:58.200 --> 02:26:07.800
Erica Moore: Please attend the lubick meeting so that you know what's going on in these cases, because what I hear a lot is you start asking questions about things that were addressed.

1424
02:26:08.220 --> 02:26:16.260
Erica Moore: In the loop of meeting that's what that's about and I think again, we have to trust the loop back because that's the designated entity.

1425
02:26:16.530 --> 02:26:29.790
Erica Moore: to represent these projects and what they come out with is what we have to look at, we have to have faith in them that they are exploring what the issues are, and I think that it is really important to remember that we have we are you are supposed to be.

1426
02:26:30.990 --> 02:26:46.770
Erica Moore: Representing the Community, and I know the Community includes business owners like i'm a business owner, but I also operate a catering company, and I have to be aware of the neighborhood because my actions do it back all my neighbors, we have to be in this together, friends, thank you.

1427
02:26:47.790 --> 02:26:54.570
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks so much Erica alright so with that we're closing public comment, we have no more hands go ahead Jimmy can call the board comment.

1428
02:26:54.990 --> 02:26:59.250
james murez: Okay i'm a leak you put this motion on you want to speak now please.

1429
02:27:00.090 --> 02:27:02.220
Alix: What what What would you like me to speak to.

1430
02:27:02.820 --> 02:27:03.990
james murez: Okay, thank you well.

1431
02:27:04.590 --> 02:27:08.730
Alix: i'm sorry I mean Jim if there's something you thought I should say on it no not at all I.

1432
02:27:09.000 --> 02:27:14.250
james murez: I don't want to get into the middle of why you're bringing something up that the board already rejected so.

1433
02:27:14.310 --> 02:27:19.380
Alix: Well, I mean Jim we're faced with a really difficult situation you set this back to the board, I gave.

1434
02:27:19.710 --> 02:27:23.310
Alix: The staff on this, a bunch of questions that needed to be addressed.

1435
02:27:23.520 --> 02:27:35.580
Alix: They weren't prepared are addressed at the loop tech meeting you heard the response from Barry so like my hands are tied, we can either vote to deny it, or we can put the original motion through or someone else can put any emotion together like i'm not a lot.

1436
02:27:36.000 --> 02:27:37.170
james murez: Thank you, thank you.

1437
02:27:39.000 --> 02:27:39.420
james murez: i'm.

1438
02:27:40.530 --> 02:27:42.000
james murez: Clark, you want to say something.

1439
02:27:42.300 --> 02:27:50.310
clark brown: there's a question for leaks leaks in your judgment, are these conditions which are set forth and you're older and emotion sufficient to.

1440
02:27:51.390 --> 02:27:57.300
clark brown: address the noise and other objections that the neighbors seem to have in this project.

1441
02:27:59.400 --> 02:28:06.660
Alix: I mean Clark that's a loaded question like we see, excuse me, a lack of enforcement i'm this.

1442
02:28:07.140 --> 02:28:19.020
Alix: Excuse me in the city across the board, so I mean we're an advisory committee, we can put this in so we paper trail it, but we don't know if the city is going to enforce or not.

1443
02:28:19.320 --> 02:28:31.350
Alix: i'd like to barry's point where he's right we've now had to loop back meetings on this and two board members on this and we haven't had anyone from the vicinity of round works come up and see anything.

1444
02:28:31.860 --> 02:28:42.780
Alix: So it's you know my hands are tied on on what I personally think should or should not happen where's where the neighbors to this project it's not like it hasn't been noticed.

1445
02:28:44.070 --> 02:28:46.410
james murez: At least you have an outreach meeting for this project.

1446
02:28:49.110 --> 02:28:50.190
Alix: i'm um.

1447
02:28:50.640 --> 02:28:51.150
james murez: Thank you.

1448
02:28:51.630 --> 02:29:06.510
Alix: Wait sorry there was sorry i'm just trying to there was no I don't think the applicants did an outreach meeting, but I believe there was a very confirm this, I believe there was a a a sign in at the coffee shop where they were where they were.

1449
02:29:07.560 --> 02:29:10.710
Alix: Addressing concerns of the neighbors very could you could you confirm that.

1450
02:29:14.910 --> 02:29:15.510
Alix: Very.

1451
02:29:20.430 --> 02:29:21.810
Nico Ruderman: Well, so you're talking about like a petition.

1452
02:29:22.560 --> 02:29:35.460
james murez: So normally all our all new pet projects are supposed to have an outreach meeting where all of the budding neighborhoods within some radius depending on what they're asking for in this case a restaurant probably 500 feet, but i'll be noticed.

1453
02:29:35.760 --> 02:29:51.240
james murez: by the applicant and everybody in the neighborhood would hear about the project, and then the loop back staff person and the applicant with meet with the neighborhood onsite take all of the public, comments and then the staff would put together a report that wasn't done.

1454
02:29:52.800 --> 02:29:55.290
james murez: There is no outreach on this project, there was a.

1455
02:29:57.870 --> 02:30:04.290
james murez: person that was hired that represented the neighbors in opposition of the project and the big issue that.

1456
02:30:04.350 --> 02:30:04.560
Ivan: That.

1457
02:30:04.830 --> 02:30:09.990
james murez: They was stated, and you can go back and listen to the videotape they were very concerned about the loading in the back.

1458
02:30:10.230 --> 02:30:19.620
james murez: But there was a whole bunch of other issues that loop back staff did not touch on such as where they're trashing closures, how are they going to wash their mats down at the end of the shift.

1459
02:30:19.980 --> 02:30:28.230
james murez: How are they going to deal with parking whether Melissa likes it or not, there's parking issues there's a whole bunch of things that should have been addressed that were never addressed.

1460
02:30:28.680 --> 02:30:35.400
james murez: And so the project was rejected rejected on the second time around, when the things were made clear, I made a lot of them clear.

1461
02:30:35.790 --> 02:30:39.060
james murez: Because I attended the meeting and go back and look at the videotape if you want.

1462
02:30:39.600 --> 02:30:48.630
james murez: And, and they weren't addressed and the at that point, they said okay well look the applicants did not show up, they were notified to be to this meeting they didn't show up.

1463
02:30:48.930 --> 02:30:54.660
james murez: That we're going to deny it, because we don't have answers to any of the questions that were being asked, so that you have your hand up.

1464
02:30:54.840 --> 02:30:55.440
Alix: And you want a new.

1465
02:30:56.970 --> 02:31:03.180
soledad ursua: era and just so just the way we see it, we have two options right, we could just the motion as written before was to deny it.

1466
02:31:03.960 --> 02:31:11.760
soledad ursua: When the leaks put in the motion was we could accept it, but with all these conditions, so the question here is do these conditions.

1467
02:31:12.120 --> 02:31:26.220
soledad ursua: You know, does it satisfy it, you know because we're really looking at is, do we just deny them outright, or should we accept it with these conditions um you know we are just advisory board remember so that's the hard part here and.

1468
02:31:27.810 --> 02:31:28.380
james murez: Thank you so.

1469
02:31:28.860 --> 02:31:32.820
Alix: Jim can you unmute Barry so he could address the outreach issue, please.

1470
02:31:33.150 --> 02:31:36.690
james murez: Melissa go ahead, your hands up.

1471
02:31:37.500 --> 02:31:48.660
melissadiner: yeah I would just say I think if you want, we want to have any say in this, even if it's unenforceable just vote for the alternative motion, I mean you can deny it, but I don't think that's the right thing to do.

1472
02:31:52.320 --> 02:31:53.250
james murez: Okay, thank you.

1473
02:31:53.670 --> 02:31:57.450
Daffodil Tyminski: By the way, Barry should be unmuted if he wants to speak, you should be able to speak.

1474
02:31:57.570 --> 02:31:59.250
james murez: his hands up very go ahead place.

1475
02:31:59.940 --> 02:32:07.890
barrycassilly: i'm not sure if I should I might get like my head shot off, but um yeah the people ground works.

1476
02:32:09.840 --> 02:32:15.600
barrycassilly: The there's like voluntary outreach that we asked people to do it loop back.

1477
02:32:16.710 --> 02:32:19.050
barrycassilly: Where they would do a Mailer.

1478
02:32:20.640 --> 02:32:27.150
barrycassilly: That everybody listening 250 or 500 feet, depending on the conditions would get they did not do that.

1479
02:32:28.470 --> 02:32:40.170
barrycassilly: However, they did express to me that that may have been a confusion with their earlier engagement with staff, which was not myself or Korean who was working on this.

1480
02:32:41.520 --> 02:32:59.130
barrycassilly: So I have no idea what's going on there, what they did do was you know, put the sign in sheet in the coffee shop tab people express their potential support for their proposal which they got like evidently like gobs of signatures for.

1481
02:33:00.690 --> 02:33:06.570
barrycassilly: So, but with with respect to addressing the neighbors concerns with the loading zone.

1482
02:33:07.770 --> 02:33:19.920
barrycassilly: We felt like the literal hours limiting the activity in the loading zone, because the loading zone is literally in the alley um it's across the alley from people's homes.

1483
02:33:21.120 --> 02:33:27.090
barrycassilly: So if people are loading and unloading at one in the morning or five in the morning it's going to be very.

1484
02:33:27.930 --> 02:33:34.740
barrycassilly: intrusive to neighbors so we had a limitation that they couldn't load and unload between 10 and seven.

1485
02:33:35.370 --> 02:33:47.550
barrycassilly: um there was an informal concern expressed i'm like literally getting text messages about it that ground works had not been cooperative with.

1486
02:33:48.090 --> 02:34:08.520
barrycassilly: Other things they were asked to do with respect to the neighbors um I really well on how to handle that you know, we had like there was a CA hearing where anybody could show up and speak Greg shoop did speak in behalf of what neighbors he didn't say we had two little peck meetings.

1487
02:34:09.810 --> 02:34:22.620
barrycassilly: Nobody really showed up and spoke so we're sort of one of which the applicant showed up at and presented so we're sort of like I don't know a little bit going blind here I don't know.

1488
02:34:24.180 --> 02:34:26.940
barrycassilly: What to say, this is the best I can do this, what happened.

1489
02:34:28.470 --> 02:34:28.830
james murez: Thank you.

1490
02:34:28.920 --> 02:34:30.630
james murez: Thank you very we do appreciate it.

1491
02:34:32.970 --> 02:34:39.150
james murez: You know, we need to take a vote on this folks this has been going on for too long, very i'm putting your hand down.

1492
02:34:40.170 --> 02:34:40.680
james murez: um.

1493
02:34:42.420 --> 02:34:45.270
james murez: let's let's take a vote on this alternate motion.

1494
02:34:46.290 --> 02:34:56.130
james murez: And then we can move forward from there where it's getting really late it's already 830 and we need to be moving on so i'm gonna vote no on this alternate motion.

1495
02:34:56.490 --> 02:35:00.060
CJ Cole: Then you repeat the ultimate motion and I kind of lost you.

1496
02:35:00.690 --> 02:35:01.980
melissadiner: Combine your screen Jim.

1497
02:35:02.040 --> 02:35:03.630
james murez: it's on the screen right there.

1498
02:35:03.720 --> 02:35:06.270
james murez: Okay daffodil, how do you vote.

1499
02:35:09.780 --> 02:35:10.440
james murez: daffodil.

1500
02:35:10.770 --> 02:35:12.420
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, no i'm here i'm here.

1501
02:35:12.720 --> 02:35:13.260
james murez: How do you vote.

1502
02:35:15.570 --> 02:35:15.990
No.

1503
02:35:17.610 --> 02:35:18.600
james murez: Melissa, how do you vote.

1504
02:35:18.990 --> 02:35:19.620
Yes.

1505
02:35:21.330 --> 02:35:22.380
james murez: andres, how do you vote.

1506
02:35:24.240 --> 02:35:24.630
Andrea Boccaletti: No.

1507
02:35:26.640 --> 02:35:27.660
james murez: leaks, how do you vote.

1508
02:35:27.900 --> 02:35:28.530
Yes.

1509
02:35:30.030 --> 02:35:30.930
james murez: vicki, how do you vote.

1510
02:35:31.230 --> 02:35:31.800
No.

1511
02:35:33.270 --> 02:35:34.200
james murez: For now, how do you vote.

1512
02:35:35.250 --> 02:35:35.880
Bruno Hernandez: No.

1513
02:35:37.650 --> 02:35:38.640
james murez: see my, how do you vote.

1514
02:35:41.400 --> 02:35:43.830
james murez: I suspect she's not here anymore Can somebody look.

1515
02:35:43.830 --> 02:35:44.880
Sima Kostovetsky: NICO you go.

1516
02:35:46.290 --> 02:35:46.590
Nico Ruderman: Over.

1517
02:35:47.070 --> 02:35:47.910
james murez: Here oh i'm sorry.

1518
02:35:49.050 --> 02:35:51.330
james murez: You voted no NICO, how do you vote.

1519
02:35:52.050 --> 02:35:52.710
Nico Ruderman: I vote yes.

1520
02:35:54.900 --> 02:35:56.160
james murez: Jim rob, how do you vote.

1521
02:35:56.730 --> 02:35:57.630
james robb: Although yes.

1522
02:35:58.830 --> 02:35:59.790
james murez: Stan, how do you vote.

1523
02:36:00.810 --> 02:36:01.290
Ansar  Muhammad: No.

1524
02:36:03.060 --> 02:36:04.080
james murez: Jason, how do you vote.

1525
02:36:06.240 --> 02:36:07.110
Jason Sugars: morning yes.

1526
02:36:09.990 --> 02:36:10.530
james murez: Sorry.

1527
02:36:11.550 --> 02:36:12.750
Jason Sugars: putting us on this alternate.

1528
02:36:13.500 --> 02:36:14.670
james murez: alley, how do you vote.

1529
02:36:15.540 --> 02:36:15.810
Oh.

1530
02:36:17.730 --> 02:36:19.530
Alley Bean: Yes, I guess, yes.

1531
02:36:20.580 --> 02:36:21.480
james murez: hi, how do you vote.

1532
02:36:22.890 --> 02:36:23.340
Chie Lunn: No.

1533
02:36:25.200 --> 02:36:26.100
james murez: My caddy about.

1534
02:36:26.640 --> 02:36:27.120
Yes.

1535
02:36:28.620 --> 02:36:29.790
james murez: Solid at how do you vote.

1536
02:36:30.180 --> 02:36:30.720
Yes.

1537
02:36:32.520 --> 02:36:33.540
james murez: cj, how do you.

1538
02:36:33.810 --> 02:36:34.530
know.

1539
02:36:35.670 --> 02:36:37.740
james murez: oliver's not here Elizabeth, how do you vote.

1540
02:36:38.520 --> 02:36:39.180
Yes.

1541
02:36:41.190 --> 02:36:42.120
james murez: Robert, how do you vote.

1542
02:36:44.700 --> 02:36:45.210
robertthibodeau: Yes.

1543
02:36:46.140 --> 02:36:46.980
james murez: Or can you vote.

1544
02:36:47.160 --> 02:36:47.760
Yes.

1545
02:36:50.310 --> 02:36:58.230
james murez: i'm loving yeses nine knows the motion carries moving right along boy did that one.

1546
02:37:01.830 --> 02:37:02.940
james murez: block that one out.

1547
02:37:08.310 --> 02:37:09.120
and

1548
02:37:10.800 --> 02:37:12.180
clark brown: No been now on it's not yet.

1549
02:37:12.180 --> 02:37:12.630
james robb: spoken.

1550
02:37:12.810 --> 02:37:14.220
james murez: And Alan in the audience yet.

1551
02:37:16.620 --> 02:37:18.450
james murez: Before we go on to this.

1552
02:37:18.600 --> 02:37:21.390
Andrea Boccaletti: is only one phone number that's an identifiable.

1553
02:37:21.630 --> 02:37:24.660
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah I don't see anyone from his office there.

1554
02:37:24.930 --> 02:37:30.690
james murez: yeah, let me just check wait patiently she she has a 29 range before 930.

1555
02:37:30.960 --> 02:37:37.710
melissadiner: I are calibrating I think we can also think about which items we can take together if everyone can look at the agenda.

1556
02:37:37.830 --> 02:37:38.370
melissadiner: You know he's.

1557
02:37:38.640 --> 02:37:40.590
james murez: been alan's assistant just.

1558
02:37:41.670 --> 02:37:47.280
james murez: texted me know he's not here yet so let's go ahead with 27 i'm.

1559
02:37:48.780 --> 02:37:57.450
Daffodil Tyminski: By the way, I mean it's great to have been Alan at all, but if he can't show up with a meeting can we just put them off till January meeting.

1560
02:37:57.570 --> 02:38:08.250
james murez: Well, we told him, it would be okay, he had some family issues that he needed to deal with prior to the meeting and we said, whatever time you would get here we'll deal with it, that was my message to his office we you and I can talk about that offline.

1561
02:38:08.250 --> 02:38:09.750
melissadiner: You can limit his time though.

1562
02:38:10.590 --> 02:38:14.010
james murez: i'm neighborhood committee nominations.

1563
02:38:15.630 --> 02:38:18.660
james murez: daffodil this is yours, do you want to make the motion, please.

1564
02:38:19.080 --> 02:38:22.710
Daffodil Tyminski: Sure pretty straightforward, we have an applicant for the.

1565
02:38:22.890 --> 02:38:26.850
james murez: emotion, the emotion is to approve the selection see what it says, right here.

1566
02:38:28.170 --> 02:38:29.940
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, I do see that okay.

1567
02:38:30.300 --> 02:38:31.650
james murez: Read the motion for so we have.

1568
02:38:31.890 --> 02:38:40.590
Daffodil Tyminski: So we have one applicant from North business and there is emotion and the motion is to approve the selection of the applicant to serve on the neighborhood committee.

1569
02:38:40.830 --> 02:38:42.480
james murez: Thank you, can I get a second place.

1570
02:38:43.860 --> 02:38:44.250
Alley Bean: Second.

1571
02:38:45.420 --> 02:38:47.640
james murez: Thank you ellie um.

1572
02:38:51.210 --> 02:38:52.620
james murez: Do you want to discuss Stefano.

1573
02:38:54.300 --> 02:38:55.140
james murez: There any any.

1574
02:38:55.170 --> 02:38:58.710
Daffodil Tyminski: Any why don't we take public comment, and then we can take discussion.

1575
02:38:59.220 --> 02:39:03.300
Ivan: Okay, before you do, can you put his name into the record, please.

1576
02:39:04.530 --> 02:39:06.690
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm sure his name is JEREMY low.

1577
02:39:07.350 --> 02:39:08.940
Daffodil Tyminski: he's a long time, Venice resident.

1578
02:39:13.470 --> 02:39:25.440
Daffodil Tyminski: let's see if I can get this and we'll go to public comment first we have three public comments goat puppet Margaret and Helen fallon and then we will close public comment.

1579
02:39:26.970 --> 02:39:30.240
Daffodil Tyminski: Go puppet why don't you go ahead first.

1580
02:39:35.160 --> 02:39:38.940
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: So here we go JEREMY low the.

1581
02:39:41.130 --> 02:39:51.090
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: lobe oh yes Okay, so if we're giving away something it's good photo for not giving away something that's bad.

1582
02:39:52.710 --> 02:40:02.400
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: So, due to the late hour, as a Christmas gift don't pop up moves do a journalist meeting because Mr stern stood us up.

1583
02:40:03.120 --> 02:40:07.950
Daffodil Tyminski: drop it off topic, if you want to stay on topic i'd love to hear you but otherwise we're gonna.

1584
02:40:07.980 --> 02:40:08.730
Daffodil Tyminski: Stop you.

1585
02:40:09.150 --> 02:40:14.340
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: You promised me the Senator you promised and light again what you lie to me.

1586
02:40:15.330 --> 02:40:16.440
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: Thanks, thank you.

1587
02:40:19.350 --> 02:40:20.370
Daffodil Tyminski: Margaret.

1588
02:40:26.550 --> 02:40:27.060
Daffodil Tyminski: Margaret.

1589
02:40:27.090 --> 02:40:47.010
Margaret Molloy: Thank you, I was gonna comment about procedural issues there's no nominee information there's no length, I mean it's just not not appropriate and you made a nomination and, second, without even telling us who it is so please come on people, this is a lot of our time as well, thank you.

1590
02:40:49.080 --> 02:40:51.480
Daffodil Tyminski: All right, Margaret i'm how i'm feeling good.

1591
02:40:53.940 --> 02:40:57.360
Helen Fallon: i'm glad you're joining some recruiting to get more numbers, the neighbor.

1592
02:41:01.440 --> 02:41:03.420
Daffodil Tyminski: Margaret all right Helen sorry.

1593
02:41:04.380 --> 02:41:06.030
Helen Fallon: You didn't start all over again.

1594
02:41:08.100 --> 02:41:09.990
Daffodil Tyminski: just keep going I didn't i'm.

1595
02:41:11.400 --> 02:41:13.080
Helen Fallon: Good I just turned over I lost my.

1596
02:41:13.080 --> 02:41:14.370
Helen Fallon: train of thought completely.

1597
02:41:14.580 --> 02:41:16.290
james murez: i'll put a few seconds back on like.

1598
02:41:16.530 --> 02:41:27.090
Helen Fallon: I just want to i'm glad you're you're recruiting more people to the neighborhood committee, however, you have people who are serving on that committee, who are not appointed by the board the bylaws are explicit.

1599
02:41:27.570 --> 02:41:43.440
Helen Fallon: And that needs to be cleaned up and you need and and, frankly, the dnc needs to do a better job doing outreach to get all the neighborhoods represented as it is this is your substitution for not having neighborhood representatives on the board, and you have a committee that's.

1600
02:41:45.090 --> 02:41:52.860
Helen Fallon: really not representative of the whole of the whole Community, and it should be so get out there recruits and more people and and also.

1601
02:41:53.910 --> 02:41:56.370
Helen Fallon: Remove the people that were not appointed by the board.

1602
02:41:58.050 --> 02:42:00.150
Helen Fallon: It shouldn't be voting, thank you.

1603
02:42:01.980 --> 02:42:04.740
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, that we will close public comment.

1604
02:42:09.720 --> 02:42:10.920
james murez: Okay um.

1605
02:42:13.680 --> 02:42:19.080
james murez: So public comment is closed does anybody on the committee have anything they would like to say.

1606
02:42:21.000 --> 02:42:22.650
Ivan: Good Lucy applicant here.

1607
02:42:24.990 --> 02:42:28.320
james murez: Good question is the applicant here definitely you have something you'd like to say.

1608
02:42:28.860 --> 02:42:31.980
Daffodil Tyminski: I know the applicant is traveling for the holidays.

1609
02:42:32.070 --> 02:42:44.610
Daffodil Tyminski: um he's not here, but I think he said it in his application, which is on the agenda with a link so anyone that can follow links should be able to see it.

1610
02:42:47.070 --> 02:42:58.680
Daffodil Tyminski: But he's been active in the Community on an informal basis for a while and when he you know found out about the neighbor committee asked to join so okay.

1611
02:42:59.160 --> 02:43:01.050
james murez: um any other comments.

1612
02:43:03.330 --> 02:43:06.240
james murez: Seeing none let's take a boat boat Clark, you have a comment.

1613
02:43:06.510 --> 02:43:06.960
clark brown: or question.

1614
02:43:08.610 --> 02:43:22.290
clark brown: Brian Clark is the committee choosing applicants to serve on this I just the board Susan applicants to serve on this committee, because in the case of the homelessness committee that's not the way I work, the chairman.

1615
02:43:22.560 --> 02:43:23.370
clark brown: phrase Murphy.

1616
02:43:23.460 --> 02:43:24.240
clark brown: So, as the.

1617
02:43:25.020 --> 02:43:27.300
james murez: numbers are this is, this is a different.

1618
02:43:27.330 --> 02:43:32.250
james murez: committee can read in the bylaws but it's, this is a committee that selected by the Board.

1619
02:43:32.610 --> 02:43:46.320
james murez: After applicants apply, so the applicant has to apply and there's a formal application process, and then the board, does the selection and we have nine neighborhood areas that all have to be filled, but the the.

1620
02:43:46.680 --> 02:43:53.880
james murez: Committee is not limited to those nine, you can have more people on it, then the nine, but the nine have to be selected by the Board.

1621
02:43:54.660 --> 02:44:00.180
clark brown: Or the identities of these individuals contained in the link, which I see here we're not.

1622
02:44:00.390 --> 02:44:06.360
james murez: Just the new applicant, most of them have already been selected by the Board at previous meetings.

1623
02:44:06.600 --> 02:44:07.800
clark brown: And who is the applicant.

1624
02:44:08.130 --> 02:44:08.760
james murez: Excuse me.

1625
02:44:08.940 --> 02:44:09.990
clark brown: Who is the new applicant.

1626
02:44:11.580 --> 02:44:11.790
james murez: The.

1627
02:44:11.880 --> 02:44:12.630
melissadiner: arrow is.

1628
02:44:13.050 --> 02:44:14.370
melissadiner: Mr JEREMY.

1629
02:44:14.670 --> 02:44:28.770
james murez: JEREMY low and in the end, the link was there to the document that they filled out and they wrote a statement and then you know it's all there everything's there there's nothing being hidden or or kept from you so Allah you have your hand up go ahead, please.

1630
02:44:28.800 --> 02:44:34.470
Alley Bean: i'm just are we are we voting now on whether to accept Mr lobe as the North.

1631
02:44:34.470 --> 02:44:35.280
james murez: Venice yes.

1632
02:44:35.370 --> 02:44:37.230
Alley Bean: Number Okay, thank you, I just get that confused.

1633
02:44:37.410 --> 02:44:42.660
james murez: Okay, so let's go ahead now and and take a vote, I will go ahead and vote yes.

1634
02:44:45.180 --> 02:44:46.410
james murez: and staff adele.

1635
02:44:47.010 --> 02:44:47.610
Yes.

1636
02:44:48.720 --> 02:44:49.620
james murez: and listen.

1637
02:44:49.710 --> 02:44:50.220
Yes.

1638
02:44:51.360 --> 02:44:52.380
james murez: and unrest.

1639
02:44:52.590 --> 02:44:54.870
james murez: Yes, and a leak.

1640
02:44:57.930 --> 02:44:58.410
james murez: A leak.

1641
02:45:00.450 --> 02:45:01.620
james murez: i'll come back vicki.

1642
02:45:01.890 --> 02:45:02.310
Yes.

1643
02:45:03.480 --> 02:45:03.960
james murez: Bruno.

1644
02:45:04.200 --> 02:45:04.770
Yes.

1645
02:45:09.990 --> 02:45:10.560
james murez: Sema.

1646
02:45:12.210 --> 02:45:13.410
james murez: i'll come back NICO.

1647
02:45:14.370 --> 02:45:14.820
Yes.

1648
02:45:16.470 --> 02:45:17.130
james murez: Jim rob.

1649
02:45:17.730 --> 02:45:18.150
Yes.

1650
02:45:19.620 --> 02:45:20.190
james murez: stands Stan.

1651
02:45:21.420 --> 02:45:22.080
Ansar  Muhammad: Yes.

1652
02:45:22.950 --> 02:45:24.630
Jason Sugars: Jason yes.

1653
02:45:25.680 --> 02:45:26.160
james murez: Ali.

1654
02:45:26.790 --> 02:45:27.390
Alley Bean: Yes.

1655
02:45:27.540 --> 02:45:29.730
james murez: you're held hands up also Chi.

1656
02:45:29.880 --> 02:45:32.400
james murez: Yes, Mike.

1657
02:45:33.240 --> 02:45:35.070
james murez: Yes, so it out.

1658
02:45:35.700 --> 02:45:37.530
james murez: Yes, cj.

1659
02:45:37.980 --> 02:45:38.700
Yes.

1660
02:45:40.320 --> 02:45:40.920
james murez: Elizabeth.

1661
02:45:41.760 --> 02:45:43.860
james murez: Yes, Robert.

1662
02:45:44.760 --> 02:45:45.330
Yes.

1663
02:45:46.650 --> 02:45:47.430
james murez: And Clark.

1664
02:45:47.670 --> 02:45:51.630
james murez: Yes, and did seem a comeback.

1665
02:45:53.490 --> 02:45:54.780
james murez: A leak, did you come back.

1666
02:45:54.840 --> 02:45:56.670
Alix: yeah mentally accept me yes sorry.

1667
02:45:57.000 --> 02:46:00.060
james murez: Okay does anybody see a Sema stolen the audience.

1668
02:46:03.660 --> 02:46:06.870
vickihalliday: isn't and she said she had a hard stop at.

1669
02:46:07.440 --> 02:46:08.850
vickihalliday: yeah 15.

1670
02:46:09.210 --> 02:46:10.170
james murez: Okay, so you know what.

1671
02:46:11.220 --> 02:46:12.270
james murez: hang on one second let.

1672
02:46:12.270 --> 02:46:12.720
james murez: me go.

1673
02:46:13.530 --> 02:46:14.220
Sima Kostovetsky: To them.

1674
02:46:14.490 --> 02:46:17.670
Sima Kostovetsky: and select see my, this is my last vote apologies.

1675
02:46:17.760 --> 02:46:18.240
james murez: Oh, you are.

1676
02:46:18.360 --> 02:46:19.710
vickihalliday: gonna be there.

1677
02:46:20.730 --> 02:46:21.930
james murez: You look like you're asleep.

1678
02:46:23.370 --> 02:46:24.780
james murez: Where were we were.

1679
02:46:25.980 --> 02:46:27.180
Andrea Boccaletti: In another time zone.

1680
02:46:27.750 --> 02:46:28.350
james murez: Here we are.

1681
02:46:29.670 --> 02:46:30.480
james murez: Thank you Sema.

1682
02:46:31.560 --> 02:46:32.580
and good night yes.

1683
02:46:33.690 --> 02:46:36.000
james murez: You voted he say Okay, are you done now.

1684
02:46:36.330 --> 02:46:39.450
james murez: You happy holidays, to you, thank you for participating.

1685
02:46:39.480 --> 02:46:40.620
Sima Kostovetsky: Happy holidays.

1686
02:46:40.770 --> 02:46:41.040
Sima Kostovetsky: I will.

1687
02:46:41.430 --> 02:46:46.800
james murez: Sign you out now at the beginning and we won't be calling on you anymore.

1688
02:46:47.190 --> 02:46:48.180
james murez: i'm back of your time.

1689
02:46:48.690 --> 02:46:49.200
Ivan: Thank you.

1690
02:46:49.860 --> 02:46:50.820
Ivan: Yes, Jim.

1691
02:46:51.120 --> 02:46:51.570
james murez: Yes.

1692
02:46:51.690 --> 02:46:58.200
Ivan: I just have a quick question, there was three items on the loop and consent calendar, yet all three of them pass.

1693
02:46:58.470 --> 02:46:59.700
Ivan: Your any of them home.

1694
02:47:01.020 --> 02:47:02.160
james murez: They all passed.

1695
02:47:02.670 --> 02:47:04.410
Ivan: Okay move ahead.

1696
02:47:05.250 --> 02:47:05.700
james murez: Thank you.

1697
02:47:08.190 --> 02:47:12.900
james murez: Okay, where are we, we are here 29 I just got a text, this is from.

1698
02:47:14.640 --> 02:47:21.270
james murez: he's jumping in in a couple of minutes okay so Mr Allen is going to Senator Alan is going to be jumping.

1699
02:47:21.270 --> 02:47:21.750
james robb: In really.

1700
02:47:21.930 --> 02:47:23.250
james murez: Take that one first.

1701
02:47:23.310 --> 02:47:26.340
james robb: he's me Jim are we on 28 or 29.

1702
02:47:26.610 --> 02:47:27.750
james murez: we're on.

1703
02:47:28.980 --> 02:47:30.390
james murez: 2920.

1704
02:47:31.680 --> 02:47:43.110
james murez: Oh you're right, thank you, Jim let's do 28 quickly and then Senator Alan i'll start before 29 and then I suspect after 29 will have run out of time, but we'll see where we are.

1705
02:47:45.840 --> 02:47:54.300
james murez: So this was submitted by the ocean front walk committee the maker would be Jim rob you want to go ahead and read it into the record.

1706
02:47:54.630 --> 02:48:04.350
james robb: Okay ocean for a walk scd eleven's initial sensitive use area, the motion, therefore, the Venice neighborhood Council formally request that the beach.

1707
02:48:04.890 --> 02:48:15.570
james robb: recreation Center and ocean for a walk be designated as sensitive sensitive use area in Council district 11 under the recent amended la MC.

1708
02:48:17.580 --> 02:48:19.350
james robb: With letters sent to voted in Carson.

1709
02:48:21.330 --> 02:48:23.220
james murez: Thank you do, I have a second.

1710
02:48:26.010 --> 02:48:26.490
soledad ursua: Second.

1711
02:48:27.420 --> 02:48:28.050
james murez: Thank you so.

1712
02:48:30.330 --> 02:48:31.170
james murez: um.

1713
02:48:32.700 --> 02:48:43.710
james murez: I think the motion pretty much describes what it is we're talking about let's go to public comment, do we have any public comment I see there's three participants hands raised.

1714
02:48:44.970 --> 02:48:48.240
james murez: daffodils there six and continuing to count.

1715
02:48:49.260 --> 02:48:56.940
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so we have Margaret good puppet Sean o'brien Helen fallon Lisa redman Robin Roussel with Robin.

1716
02:48:56.970 --> 02:48:59.010
Daffodil Tyminski: We will have a comment.

1717
02:48:59.070 --> 02:49:01.200
james murez: One more hand just one up you get the seventh one.

1718
02:49:02.820 --> 02:49:05.550
Daffodil Tyminski: I don't see a seventh one I see Robin is the last one.

1719
02:49:05.700 --> 02:49:06.420
james murez: All right, great.

1720
02:49:07.950 --> 02:49:11.280
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, Margaret i'm go ahead.

1721
02:49:13.020 --> 02:49:30.630
Margaret Molloy: So I would say ocean from walk is a sensitive you Syria it's the zenith of free speech forum as it was called by federal judge Dean prednisone and, as such, coastal access for all is critical.

1722
02:49:31.380 --> 02:49:42.960
Margaret Molloy: And this is a discriminatory application of law in a duel permits own coastal access area that is the premier public forum.

1723
02:49:44.040 --> 02:50:01.590
Margaret Molloy: And, as I mentioned earlier, you have several items on the agenda, they they attempt to displace unhealthy people in every viable way on a sidewalk in a vehicle or in an rv with no positive alternative.

1724
02:50:02.070 --> 02:50:03.330
Sima Kostovetsky: And I just think it's.

1725
02:50:03.450 --> 02:50:07.200
Margaret Molloy: Absolutely discriminatory and you can't do it and.

1726
02:50:08.310 --> 02:50:16.950
Margaret Molloy: How many ways, can you skin a cat you guys keep coming back and back and back to try and do the same thing it's a purge purchase aren't good Thank you.

1727
02:50:17.160 --> 02:50:18.150
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Margaret.

1728
02:50:20.010 --> 02:50:23.190
Daffodil Tyminski: A good profit you're on.

1729
02:50:24.690 --> 02:50:25.050
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: All right.

1730
02:50:26.610 --> 02:50:27.900
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: Yes, but.

1731
02:50:28.920 --> 02:50:30.570
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: Why ban everybody.

1732
02:50:31.950 --> 02:50:42.390
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: that's right what color you treated me tonight and what do you do to those poor homeless people are nice people where are they supposed to go.

1733
02:50:43.080 --> 02:50:54.900
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: So they don't have three and a half million dollars to buy a beach run all six and a half six and a half million dollars well all you have to do is pitch a tent.

1734
02:50:55.440 --> 02:51:06.270
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: And then you can have ocean views and the beautiful winds of the Pacific Ocean, but you don't want that no you just want your rich.

1735
02:51:06.660 --> 02:51:10.290
Daffodil Tyminski: was a bit try to make some relevant comments or the item.

1736
02:51:10.380 --> 02:51:24.750
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: wrench that white box living in those beachfront houses that's all you want on the beach do the exclusion of everybody go puppet moves denial of this motion and puppet will pitch a tent.

1737
02:51:25.260 --> 02:51:27.270
Daffodil Tyminski: on the beach so much.

1738
02:51:28.830 --> 02:51:30.090
Daffodil Tyminski: shona Brian go ahead.

1739
02:51:35.220 --> 02:51:36.270
Sean obrien: hi can you hear me.

1740
02:51:37.020 --> 02:51:45.720
Sean obrien: yeah awesome oh yeah I support the motion I didn't get a chance to speak earlier just wanted to thank you all for your work and happy holidays, thank you.

1741
02:51:46.320 --> 02:51:47.310
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks so much john.

1742
02:51:49.440 --> 02:51:51.990
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm Helen found go ahead.

1743
02:51:55.980 --> 02:51:59.580
Helen Fallon: City Council approved and I did sort of the conditions surrounding.

1744
02:52:01.230 --> 02:52:12.240
Helen Fallon: As a community, we do have a right to specify a request, where we want these locations these very sensitive areas designated as.

1745
02:52:12.810 --> 02:52:21.210
Helen Fallon: And I think that encampments and are these do not belong on our beach and we saw what happened when they were allowed.

1746
02:52:21.690 --> 02:52:27.990
Helen Fallon: And it is definitely the beach and the boardwalk is definitely a place where these encampments don't belong.

1747
02:52:28.440 --> 02:52:40.230
Helen Fallon: We had complete chaos when they took over the beach and boardwalk and we should never allow that again was dangerous and unsafe for everyone in this Community, including the homeless, thank you.

1748
02:52:42.810 --> 02:52:45.960
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you and Lisa redmond go ahead.

1749
02:52:52.470 --> 02:52:57.930
Lisa Redmond: A daffodil but I imagine, I was part of the group of not researching.

1750
02:52:59.610 --> 02:53:12.900
Lisa Redmond: mpg earlier and i'm going to say that probably no one has researched truly read what 4118 is and it's yes, the beach is a sensitive area technically it's a par but.

1751
02:53:14.190 --> 02:53:31.290
Lisa Redmond: Is for within the public right away with next to 500 feet of a sensitive area, you guys are talking about wanting to clear the beach and keeping the beach clear the beaches already got it 6344 because of a Park, you cannot.

1752
02:53:33.030 --> 02:53:42.960
Lisa Redmond: The park this motion makes absolutely no sense, what you're trying to do is 4118 so that people don't sleep and in Camp on speedway adjacent to the park.

1753
02:53:43.920 --> 02:53:57.480
Lisa Redmond: It doesn't make sense, and if you are going to 4118 the beach that you would have to do a whole new boardwalk to home, treating people which the motion, or he says you're done and you can't use what happened in the past for the future.

1754
02:53:58.080 --> 02:53:58.830
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Lisa.

1755
02:53:59.970 --> 02:54:02.490
Daffodil Tyminski: Alright, Robin last public comment go ahead.

1756
02:54:05.010 --> 02:54:07.620
Robin Rudisill: it's Robin Roussel I support the motion.

1757
02:54:08.730 --> 02:54:13.650
Robin Rudisill: we're not here to litigate this new city ordinance So for me it's about equal treatment.

1758
02:54:14.730 --> 02:54:28.920
Robin Rudisill: The fact is, there's a law in the books in this regard and each Council district nominates areas as sensitive uses and it's just simply not fair if art councilman chooses not to nominate anything in CD 11 so at a minimum.

1759
02:54:29.970 --> 02:54:37.740
Robin Rudisill: I think we need to ask him to do so and put some pressure on him, and these are sensitive uses by several definitions, thank you.

1760
02:54:39.060 --> 02:54:43.230
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks so much Robin okay Jim with that we are closing public comment.

1761
02:54:44.550 --> 02:54:46.230
james murez: Okay, do we have any committee comment.

1762
02:54:47.250 --> 02:54:50.280
james murez: I see Bruno has his hand up go ahead Mike.

1763
02:54:51.780 --> 02:54:52.200
Mike Bravo: yeah.

1764
02:54:53.100 --> 02:54:53.400
Mike Bravo: Maybe I.

1765
02:54:53.460 --> 02:54:55.830
Mike Bravo: misspoke sorry it's my turn right.

1766
02:54:56.070 --> 02:54:56.760
james murez: yeah go ahead.

1767
02:54:56.850 --> 02:54:58.680
Mike Bravo: queued up, I want to say oh.

1768
02:54:59.910 --> 02:55:09.150
Mike Bravo: I can't vote for this, I mean i'm kimball Yes, this is just my principal and why keep driving this home 41 point 18 is a very fascist type of law.

1769
02:55:09.900 --> 02:55:18.930
Mike Bravo: And it's in stock contradiction to black lives matter principles and we want to drive home the point that we have to be anti racist and principal.

1770
02:55:19.770 --> 02:55:33.240
Mike Bravo: Policy and impact not just professionally when we rise up against you know offensive language, so I know there's some serious issues going on on the boardwalk but we really have to find out from the nuances that are going to make it.

1771
02:55:34.920 --> 02:55:50.370
Mike Bravo: So that's not discriminatory to you know people who are on house and you know people close well who know, unfortunately take on the rug allowed those police impact, so when you have to find some different avenue then put a 1.8 tenths of very good you got your money.

1772
02:55:52.890 --> 02:55:53.580
Mike Bravo: that's it Thank you.

1773
02:55:54.180 --> 02:55:55.770
james murez: Thank you, Robert go ahead.

1774
02:55:59.910 --> 02:56:01.470
robertthibodeau: yeah sorry about that.

1775
02:56:03.030 --> 02:56:12.240
robertthibodeau: This is a, this is a public safety issue this isn't a citizen have anything to do with black lives matter, this is a up straightforward public safety issue.

1776
02:56:13.770 --> 02:56:19.800
robertthibodeau: is only asking that we keep our schools and parks and other facilities.

1777
02:56:21.030 --> 02:56:23.340
robertthibodeau: safe for kids the elderly.

1778
02:56:25.170 --> 02:56:30.660
robertthibodeau: You we all saw the spike in crime when the kitchen cabinets were allowed on ocean from walk.

1779
02:56:33.270 --> 02:56:37.770
robertthibodeau: I never thought i'd hear myself saying this, but I wholeheartedly agree with what Robin said.

1780
02:56:39.210 --> 02:56:51.390
robertthibodeau: Our councilman has decided not to file any sensitive uses for our CD i'm not sure people are aware of that all the other Council districts have had.

1781
02:56:52.200 --> 02:57:06.120
robertthibodeau: maps submitted to the city of their elementary schools their kindergartens their senior centers and their parks and those will receive special attention and.

1782
02:57:07.530 --> 02:57:15.480
robertthibodeau: And all we're asking is that if you're going to pitch your tent you go do it down the street in front of non front of broadway elementary.

1783
02:57:16.140 --> 02:57:28.290
robertthibodeau: don't use your needles there, etc, etc, and straightforward simple simple public safety issue we don't need to make more of it than than that it's just protect the children, thank you.

1784
02:57:28.380 --> 02:57:30.330
james murez: Thank you, Robert soledad go ahead, please.

1785
02:57:31.020 --> 02:57:38.610
soledad ursua: I want to thank the ocean front walk committee for hearing this as everyone remembers we just spent $5 million to clean the area.

1786
02:57:38.970 --> 02:57:48.840
soledad ursua: I think it's crazy that we even have to ask that it is you know sort of protected and up CAP, do you think that would just be part of it, but in these days I feel like we just have to ask for everything.

1787
02:57:49.080 --> 02:58:02.580
soledad ursua: So this emotionally does that we spent the money that city funding that we put into it let's keep it clear let's keep it clear, for you know Venice kids, for you know tourists for everyone, so thank you and I think this is a great motion.

1788
02:58:02.970 --> 02:58:04.500
james murez: Thank you so dad Clark go ahead.

1789
02:58:04.830 --> 02:58:07.110
clark brown: I support the motion of.

1790
02:58:09.720 --> 02:58:27.630
clark brown: See one defines a set price that's the views as including the public Park, obviously the ocean front walk in and the REC Center and the beach or this you know, the same thing as a public Park, so this amendment is is consistent with.

1791
02:58:30.690 --> 02:58:42.330
clark brown: See one as it stands, the second point which I think people overlook is that know these ordinances can be enforced unless you have some place to move the people who are.

1792
02:58:43.080 --> 02:58:56.820
clark brown: Who are subject to being moved in until we've got some shoulder for them or places where they can go like these proposals out at las these things can't be enforced So these are not oppressive towards the crowds of homeless people.

1793
02:58:57.210 --> 02:58:57.900
clark brown: are helpful.

1794
02:58:58.380 --> 02:59:02.460
james murez: Thank you clock it's getting late, we need to keep moving does anybody else have any comments.

1795
02:59:03.630 --> 02:59:05.520
james murez: See none let's take a vote.

1796
02:59:07.980 --> 02:59:16.980
james murez: And andres, let me just quickly log him out sorry everybody, I think I need a button, to be able to do this to.

1797
02:59:18.300 --> 02:59:19.890
melissadiner: Make that per item of him.

1798
02:59:21.330 --> 02:59:22.740
james murez: he left the meeting.

1799
02:59:25.050 --> 02:59:26.730
james murez: Where were we what number was it.

1800
02:59:28.800 --> 02:59:31.830
melissadiner: 2928 28.

1801
02:59:32.130 --> 02:59:36.960
james murez: right here, thank you um okay James boats yes.

1802
02:59:39.660 --> 02:59:41.820
james murez: daffodil yes.

1803
02:59:42.840 --> 02:59:43.380
james murez: alyssa.

1804
02:59:45.300 --> 02:59:45.810
james murez: somebody's.

1805
02:59:45.900 --> 02:59:46.350
soledad ursua: phone.

1806
02:59:46.560 --> 02:59:48.420
james murez: I just said you were leaving.

1807
02:59:49.710 --> 02:59:51.300
james murez: Andre are you here.

1808
02:59:52.530 --> 02:59:56.820
Andrea Boccaletti: But who said they were leaving I never said I was leaving them here Oh, I thought you texted me okay.

1809
02:59:58.170 --> 02:59:59.640
james murez: Well, which way are you voting sorry.

1810
03:00:00.300 --> 03:00:00.870
Yes.

1811
03:00:04.110 --> 03:00:05.040
james murez: Whose phone is that.

1812
03:00:06.120 --> 03:00:08.310
Andrea Boccaletti: Right it's connected to my computer I can't do anything.

1813
03:00:08.310 --> 03:00:09.780
Andrea Boccaletti: it's okay to the computer.

1814
03:00:11.340 --> 03:00:13.440
james murez: Alex a leak.

1815
03:00:15.360 --> 03:00:16.440
Alix: US yes.

1816
03:00:16.890 --> 03:00:18.270
james murez: Sorry, thank you.

1817
03:00:19.440 --> 03:00:20.580
james murez: Where Am I vicki.

1818
03:00:20.910 --> 03:00:21.390
Yes.

1819
03:00:24.510 --> 03:00:25.110
james murez: Bruno.

1820
03:00:25.290 --> 03:00:25.950
Yes.

1821
03:00:27.690 --> 03:00:28.200
james murez: He go.

1822
03:00:29.820 --> 03:00:30.210
Nico Ruderman: Yes.

1823
03:00:31.710 --> 03:00:32.370
james murez: Jim rob.

1824
03:00:32.940 --> 03:00:33.510
Yes.

1825
03:00:34.890 --> 03:00:35.460
james murez: Stan.

1826
03:00:36.630 --> 03:00:37.260
Ansar  Muhammad: Yes.

1827
03:00:38.670 --> 03:00:39.180
james murez: Jason.

1828
03:00:40.170 --> 03:00:40.740
Yes.

1829
03:00:45.900 --> 03:00:46.470
Alley Bean: Yes.

1830
03:00:47.850 --> 03:00:48.210
james murez: hi.

1831
03:00:48.750 --> 03:00:49.380
Yes.

1832
03:00:50.580 --> 03:00:51.030
Mike.

1833
03:00:52.200 --> 03:00:52.590
Mike Bravo: No.

1834
03:00:56.070 --> 03:00:56.640
soledad ursua: Yes.

1835
03:00:57.630 --> 03:00:59.520
CJ Cole: cj yes.

1836
03:01:01.260 --> 03:01:03.150
Elizabeth Clay: Elizabeth yes.

1837
03:01:04.230 --> 03:01:04.710
james murez: Robert.

1838
03:01:06.300 --> 03:01:06.900
robertthibodeau: Yes.

1839
03:01:08.010 --> 03:01:08.820
james murez: And Clark.

1840
03:01:09.090 --> 03:01:09.510
Yes.

1841
03:01:11.040 --> 03:01:13.200
james murez: Motion carries 18 one.

1842
03:01:15.420 --> 03:01:20.910
james murez: Now, this is a long one let's see is the Senator here.

1843
03:01:22.080 --> 03:01:22.860
Nico Ruderman: I saw him his hair.

1844
03:01:23.490 --> 03:01:25.020
james murez: Oh great let's promote him.

1845
03:01:28.740 --> 03:01:30.630
james murez: That the dollar, you see him before I see him.

1846
03:01:33.720 --> 03:01:34.920
been out there you go.

1847
03:01:37.080 --> 03:01:37.590
promote.

1848
03:01:39.780 --> 03:01:48.630
james murez: If everybody else could mute let's give the Senator the opportunity to speak without being interrupted by phones ringing.

1849
03:01:51.480 --> 03:01:52.020
james murez: There we go.

1850
03:01:53.550 --> 03:01:55.440
james murez: And i'm going to stop sharing my screen.

1851
03:02:01.170 --> 03:02:05.850
james murez: Who we see, yes, here we go then Alan Senator brown Alan how are you, Sir, good evening.

1852
03:02:07.260 --> 03:02:08.670
james murez: You need to unmute yourself.

1853
03:02:11.430 --> 03:02:12.000
james murez: There you go.

1854
03:02:13.140 --> 03:02:14.790
Ben Allen: There we go hey everybody, how are you.

1855
03:02:15.300 --> 03:02:16.440
james murez: Great Thank you, thank you.

1856
03:02:16.440 --> 03:02:19.020
james murez: for making any meeting tonight yeah.

1857
03:02:19.080 --> 03:02:20.310
Ben Allen: Good sorry.

1858
03:02:23.190 --> 03:02:27.780
james murez: No, you go ahead, please speak, do you need introduction you're our Senator yeah.

1859
03:02:28.800 --> 03:02:33.450
Ben Allen: Well it's good to see you, I appreciate on got so many so many issues and you guys get to.

1860
03:02:33.960 --> 03:02:39.390
Ben Allen: get to work on, so I just want to say hi to everyone, I want to wish everyone a very happy holidays and I just wanted to jump on.

1861
03:02:40.080 --> 03:02:48.420
Ben Allen: for a few moments I got a chance to help me get my son to bed hopefully it's hopefully he's done he's he's asleep, by now, but.

1862
03:02:49.380 --> 03:02:55.110
Ben Allen: there's one of the joys of having a little a little three year old is is kind of unpredictable scheduling but.

1863
03:02:55.650 --> 03:03:01.440
Ben Allen: um anyway it's it's been a long time since we've had these these meetings in person, and I just wanted to take an opportunity to.

1864
03:03:01.920 --> 03:03:06.510
Ben Allen: to jump on and say hello to everyone, give everyone a little update as to some of the things that we've been working on.

1865
03:03:06.930 --> 03:03:18.240
Ben Allen: In sacramento and then you know, have an opportunity to answer a couple questions if people have them, I was just I saw some of you down in Venice and just last month we had that wonderful Venice heritage museum.

1866
03:03:18.750 --> 03:03:28.650
Ben Allen: event and i'm you know i'm excited about all the the progress that the museums and making toward its fundraising goals and certainly has been helping out toward toward that.

1867
03:03:30.210 --> 03:03:35.490
Ben Allen: You know, obviously we've been so so right now we're we're out of session

1868
03:03:36.240 --> 03:03:46.200
Ben Allen: We just actually the set the redistricting committee just finished its redistricting of all of the Congressional and Senate Assembly and Board of equalization lines.

1869
03:03:47.040 --> 03:03:55.950
Ben Allen: And so there's a big piece about it in today's la times that everyone can check out i'm excited that my district is is pretty much the same as a couple little differences.

1870
03:03:56.490 --> 03:04:03.690
Ben Allen: i'm gaining some neighborhoods and losing losing some, unfortunately, but the Venice is certainly very much still in my district, and so.

1871
03:04:04.710 --> 03:04:09.960
Ben Allen: So i'm looking forward to getting the opportunity to continue representing this wonderful community in the state Senate.

1872
03:04:11.100 --> 03:04:20.190
Ben Allen: So a couple things I just want to talk about that we've been working on on you know, specifically just giving a little report in the last month of session in the legislature we wrapped up in September.

1873
03:04:21.000 --> 03:04:25.410
Ben Allen: lot of the focus was on addressing the immediate needs, due to the pandemic, you know what while.

1874
03:04:26.280 --> 03:04:39.240
Ben Allen: while keeping an eye on recovery and building back our economy, so there was funding for small businesses in grants and tax cuts literally more than $2.1 billion in the state budget, there was a program to allow companies, the.

1875
03:04:40.770 --> 03:04:54.060
Ben Allen: expenses are covered by the Federal paycheck protection plan loans earlier, the year we passed a bill ADHD that gave small businesses, they were hit hardest by the pandemic a $6.2 billion tax cut over the next six years.

1876
03:04:55.200 --> 03:05:03.570
Ben Allen: we've, of course, you know in our office just like so many other offices has spent so much of our time just handling calls from constituents who are faced with.

1877
03:05:03.870 --> 03:05:09.360
Ben Allen: Really challenging circumstances dealing with the pandemic so everyone from folks calling in.

1878
03:05:09.840 --> 03:05:17.700
Ben Allen: With unemployment challenges to small business support residential and commercial rental issues inquiries about state government, how to get supports and help.

1879
03:05:18.150 --> 03:05:26.460
Ben Allen: And so much more and i'm just proud to see my staff is you know I think they were able to resolve over 3000 individual and business owners cases in our district.

1880
03:05:26.910 --> 03:05:34.890
Ben Allen: we're actively assisting I think about 400 cases right now, so I just want to throw out there, if you do have challenges or concerns.

1881
03:05:35.100 --> 03:05:42.480
Ben Allen: Involving any kind of interplay with state government particular but even if it's not a state government issue, we can oftentimes direct you in the right direction, so please.

1882
03:05:42.840 --> 03:05:51.150
Ben Allen: don't hesitate to contact our office if there's any way we can help you, and if we can't we'll help you find the you know the appropriate place.

1883
03:05:51.870 --> 03:05:57.990
Ben Allen: And let me just talk a little bit about the budget, the state budget that passed for fiscal year 2021 22.

1884
03:05:58.890 --> 03:06:06.510
Ben Allen: This is historic funding, I mean, of course, you know what's so strange about this last year was that, even though the economy was shut down.

1885
03:06:07.080 --> 03:06:16.140
Ben Allen: With those record record high highs in the stock market and, of course, that ended up finding its way into the budget through increased tax revenue.

1886
03:06:16.560 --> 03:06:25.290
Ben Allen: And I think it put the state government in a place where I could make some some much more bold decisions, I mean it was so strange to go from a situation where we were cutting back.

1887
03:06:25.680 --> 03:06:32.070
Ben Allen: Really dramatically, at the very beginning of the the covered crisis to suddenly having a lot of extra resources.

1888
03:06:33.120 --> 03:06:40.620
Ben Allen: So the state's been able to put a lot of money into pandemic related really for individuals and families and also support for small businesses and nonprofit organizations.

1889
03:06:41.400 --> 03:06:49.290
Ben Allen: We were also, of course, able to really dramatically build up our rainy day fund it's now over $25 billion and that's something that's really important.

1890
03:06:50.100 --> 03:06:55.050
Ben Allen: it's certainly the largest that's ever been that's something that I think we can think Jerry brown for the foresight.

1891
03:06:55.410 --> 03:07:01.410
Ben Allen: for having created that that mechanism, I used to serve on the school board here in Santa Monica just up the road from you guys.

1892
03:07:01.890 --> 03:07:07.740
Ben Allen: On it right before I served in the Senate, and it was a terrible time serving on the board after the 20 the 2008.

1893
03:07:08.100 --> 03:07:16.920
Ben Allen: recession, of course, schools are such an important part of the state budget and when the recession hit and the seat revenues drops, we were faced with these terrible choices.

1894
03:07:17.490 --> 03:07:26.820
Ben Allen: Trying to keep the lights on, keep trying to keep programs strong while while while you know, trying to minimize the impact on kids while also trying to balance our budgets.

1895
03:07:27.210 --> 03:07:38.790
Ben Allen: And you know Jerry brown the governor at the time later, you know created this whole mechanism this rainy day fund, whereas we now are required to set aside a certain amount of resources, certain amount of budget funds.

1896
03:07:39.210 --> 03:07:46.740
Ben Allen: so as to protect the state during the next downturn and, of course, you know the next downturn is always somewhere right around the corner we're so dependent.

1897
03:07:47.190 --> 03:07:55.020
Ben Allen: On the cyclical nature of the market, you know the state budget is very dependent on capital gains and certain personal income tax.

1898
03:07:55.410 --> 03:08:00.780
Ben Allen: revenues, apparently because we have relatively low property taxes, because of prop 13 and others.

1899
03:08:01.200 --> 03:08:11.100
Ben Allen: Other other things so anyway i'm just glad we're able to put aside so much money into our rainy day fund we're also able to put substantial investments in education, how social services infrastructure.

1900
03:08:12.720 --> 03:08:18.450
Ben Allen: Obviously, speaking of education, I know some of you are really interested in that area and, of course, many of you have kids.

1901
03:08:19.020 --> 03:08:25.080
Ben Allen: And we worked really closely with schools to provide support for remote Indian person instruction we secured record amounts of.

1902
03:08:25.470 --> 03:08:33.960
Ben Allen: funding and per pupil spending for public education and we created a first in the nation free lunch program for public school students expanded broadband access.

1903
03:08:34.320 --> 03:08:40.620
Ben Allen: For kids show a lot of support for la USD and we're hoping that that will help them as they as a struggle through.

1904
03:08:41.100 --> 03:08:47.490
Ben Allen: Of course they now have a new superintendent and i'm really hope i'm really, really excited about him and hopeful that he'll be able to take these resources.

1905
03:08:48.180 --> 03:08:57.630
Ben Allen: and get the district back on track, we also were able to help renters mom and pop landlords Homeowners avoid eviction in foreclosure.

1906
03:08:58.050 --> 03:09:08.490
Ben Allen: There was stimulus relief for individuals and families that were feeling the superior impacts of covert 19 $12 billion over the next few years to address homelessness.

1907
03:09:09.150 --> 03:09:16.200
Ben Allen: which of course is incredibly significant we're very much hoping that a significant portion of that funding will go to Venice to help.

1908
03:09:16.980 --> 03:09:27.210
Ben Allen: To help you help councilmember bond and address the really severe homelessness crisis on your streets that i've gotten a chance to witness firsthand quite a bit over the past couple of months.

1909
03:09:28.170 --> 03:09:32.670
Ben Allen: So so Those are some of the things that happened, and you know, in the state budget.

1910
03:09:33.270 --> 03:09:38.730
Ben Allen: You know I had a whole bunch of bills that were able to get through, signed by the governor including SP 44 which is going to help speed up.

1911
03:09:39.030 --> 03:09:51.150
Ben Allen: The construction of transit all throughout the region, we got SP 628 across the finish line which is inspired by the New Deal works progress administration to establish a creative workforce development active 2021.

1912
03:09:52.110 --> 03:10:08.460
Ben Allen: got a bill we're working right now and trying to address a major scandal in the hospice industry, I don't know folks were have had the opportunity to read some of the Expos at the La times a little while back, but we're able to get a bill across an audit request through now that's that.

1913
03:10:09.480 --> 03:10:13.170
Ben Allen: is basically going to a bill and auto request actually that's that's going to.

1914
03:10:15.180 --> 03:10:21.930
Ben Allen: You know, to look into the hospice care industry in this cottage industry of a legal practices that have that have taken place in hospice.

1915
03:10:22.800 --> 03:10:33.810
Ben Allen: On some bills on conservatorship we worked on on giving the coastal conservancy coastal Commission some more more more tools to address access violations.

1916
03:10:34.380 --> 03:10:41.940
Ben Allen: while also providing them with clear authority to issue administrative penalties friend permitted DEM damage to wetlands and natural habitats of coastal waters.

1917
03:10:42.240 --> 03:10:48.780
Ben Allen: it's actually the for the first time in in history State law will now provide a State Agency, like the coastal Commission the opportunity to hold.

1918
03:10:49.560 --> 03:10:57.480
Ben Allen: The folks who caused the terrible oil spill off the coast of Orange county hold them accountable for the damage caused by by that spill.

1919
03:10:58.140 --> 03:11:04.260
Ben Allen: And you know another area that I know many of you know that i'm working on for quite some time is the plastic pollution crisis.

1920
03:11:05.190 --> 03:11:12.270
Ben Allen: And we've got our SP 54 that's still out there, but we got a bill through that basically just is a truth in advertising bill it basically says that.

1921
03:11:12.780 --> 03:11:20.430
Ben Allen: You can't put the recycling symbol, the chasing arrow symbol on two items on the plastic items if they're not truly recyclable a lot of folks were putting them on there.

1922
03:11:21.150 --> 03:11:31.260
Ben Allen: You know, and people were putting those items into their blue bins and, of course, those items were not really recyclable and it's actually just making the recycling system much, much more dysfunctional.

1923
03:11:32.070 --> 03:11:39.690
Ben Allen: And I also was part of a small group of legislators who work to secure the governor's commitment and more than half a billion dollars in additional funding to concrete fire prevention.

1924
03:11:39.990 --> 03:11:53.310
Ben Allen: In our state this invention, you know this, this is now going to put more money into forest management projects that just vegetation funding and vegetation filming it's also going to set aside some money for low income residents to fireproof their homes.

1925
03:11:54.600 --> 03:12:01.710
Ben Allen: So that's that's certainly we had a big bond measure that was going to give it was going to put all this money to climate resiliency and ultimately.

1926
03:12:02.250 --> 03:12:07.350
Ben Allen: A lot of the priorities that we've had in the bond ended up getting wrapped into the the budget that was passed.

1927
03:12:08.310 --> 03:12:16.410
Ben Allen: So anyway i'm getting ready to to go up to sacramento again we're going to start up on on January 3 I believe really soon.

1928
03:12:16.830 --> 03:12:25.590
Ben Allen: i'm certainly you know very interested in continuing to work closely with their neighborhood Council and the Community to do whatever I can to to be a good representative for the for the neighborhood.

1929
03:12:26.430 --> 03:12:29.700
Ben Allen: So always you know always have an open door to all of my.

1930
03:12:30.270 --> 03:12:39.660
Ben Allen: Fellow elected officials on the neighborhood Council certainly want to work closely with you, and if there are things that I can do to be helpful to the neighborhood i'm certainly interested in doing whatever we can to be helpful.

1931
03:12:40.170 --> 03:12:46.440
Ben Allen: i've got a really great team based in La and also up in sacramento that worked really hard on constituent relations and just trying to.

1932
03:12:46.830 --> 03:12:53.970
Ben Allen: Make sure that we can do everything we can to assist folks who are struggling through the pandemic and having any challenge that they might they might.

1933
03:12:54.780 --> 03:13:04.530
Ben Allen: You know occasion with with with regards to the state government, so I just wanted to jump on and say hi to everyone and just done, and say how interested I am and continue to work them with you.

1934
03:13:08.700 --> 03:13:15.300
james murez: Okay, thank you um do you get any questions from our from from your staff on from our Council.

1935
03:13:17.370 --> 03:13:18.480
Ben Allen: i'm.

1936
03:13:18.510 --> 03:13:22.860
james murez: Today, maybe know i'm happy to answer, whatever you got I don't.

1937
03:13:22.920 --> 03:13:23.910
Ben Allen: know that I did but.

1938
03:13:25.920 --> 03:13:27.420
james murez: that's okay i'm.

1939
03:13:27.480 --> 03:13:28.140
Ben Allen: Good i'm happy to.

1940
03:13:28.200 --> 03:13:30.870
james murez: Happy so if if people have questions.

1941
03:13:32.670 --> 03:13:39.060
james murez: there's a couple of hands up why don't we just take the hands that are up and that'll put you on the spot.

1942
03:13:39.150 --> 03:13:40.260
james murez: See how you do it that.

1943
03:13:41.460 --> 03:13:41.670
Ben Allen: Was.

1944
03:13:41.700 --> 03:13:44.940
james murez: Just a moment okay daffodil go ahead, please your hand was up first.

1945
03:13:46.230 --> 03:13:56.910
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm sure, thank you for coming i'm i'm curious as to what your position is on sb 330 and how you think it will impact our local community.

1946
03:13:59.340 --> 03:14:11.430
Ben Allen: i'm so sorry but you know i've got I literally voted on about a hundreds of times the measures this tell me, can you just identify the bill for me please, because I have an sb 330 every two years, what which one which one.

1947
03:14:11.940 --> 03:14:23.400
Daffodil Tyminski: This is a housing bill um and it will dramatically affect the way that development occurs in our Community and what developers will be able to do within our Community.

1948
03:14:23.970 --> 03:14:34.470
Ben Allen: Okay, because that the latest sb 330 was an la Community college district affordable housing pilot program no that can't be what you're talking about, let me see this must be use this Skinner skinner's bill from a couple of years ago.

1949
03:14:34.800 --> 03:14:35.490
Alley Bean: Years ago.

1950
03:14:35.790 --> 03:14:42.870
Ben Allen: Okay, just just for you to know on every two years, they restart the numbers so there's always a new set of.

1951
03:14:44.490 --> 03:14:51.150
Ben Allen: of bills that come through okay sb 330 I do remember this, I did not vote for sb 330 i'm just pulling it up on my.

1952
03:14:53.340 --> 03:14:55.350
Daffodil Tyminski: voted President for sb 330 day.

1953
03:14:56.280 --> 03:14:57.000
Ben Allen: No, no.

1954
03:14:58.110 --> 03:15:02.520
Ben Allen: that's not a that's not a vote that's a so I wouldn't do you mean voted there's not.

1955
03:15:02.550 --> 03:15:07.050
Daffodil Tyminski: there's not it's not a magic that's not well the vote tally suggest that you were present, but.

1956
03:15:07.080 --> 03:15:08.370
Daffodil Tyminski: You did not I didn't go.

1957
03:15:08.370 --> 03:15:16.260
Daffodil Tyminski: For mission and it's a really critical build our Community here so to know what your position is, since you were there, but didn't take didn't take a vote.

1958
03:15:19.320 --> 03:15:29.190
Ben Allen: yeah i'm pulling up the bill, so it establishes the housing crisis active which until 25th 25 places restrictions on certain types of development standards.

1959
03:15:29.790 --> 03:15:35.070
Ben Allen: amends that has an accountability act makes changes to local approval processes and permit and the permit streamlining.

1960
03:15:35.430 --> 03:15:42.660
Ben Allen: yeah I seem to recall i'm going to go back, I have to go back and take a look at this, I see I apologize, but I vote on there's so many things that we vote on.

1961
03:15:43.440 --> 03:15:54.000
Ben Allen: But my from my recollection this was a one of these and bill, let me, let me take a look here i'm just pulling up the bills details i've got on my phone here.

1962
03:15:55.020 --> 03:15:55.680
Ben Allen: and

1963
03:16:00.450 --> 03:16:07.350
Ben Allen: yeah so so my concern is I recall and i'll get somewhere i'll get some more information back for folks but on.

1964
03:16:08.070 --> 03:16:20.940
Ben Allen: It looks like I think I think this was one of a couple bills, that I was concerned about in terms of of micromanaging the the planning process at the city level, and one of my constant concerns has been.

1965
03:16:22.980 --> 03:16:34.080
Ben Allen: You know that I I my general philosophy, has been the state ought to have a that housing is a real problem, we need to do more to create more and more.

1966
03:16:34.620 --> 03:16:52.980
Ben Allen: housing, but at the same time, I think that there's a there's a I think that we ought to to figure out a better way to work with our cities to as opposed to kind of telling them exactly what to do and how to produce more housing to give them incentives.

1967
03:16:54.630 --> 03:17:06.090
Ben Allen: You know, allow them to create more housing in areas that they think that there's it's appropriate to create more housing, but not sort of micromanage but i'll have to go i'm going through this as I, as I, as I.

1968
03:17:07.680 --> 03:17:14.160
Ben Allen: As I read it, because i'm looking here let's see this was not one of the i'm not one of the questions that was given an advance.

1969
03:17:14.250 --> 03:17:18.660
Daffodil Tyminski: No worries me and i'm sure other folks have questions as well, but I think this will come back so.

1970
03:17:18.750 --> 03:17:19.470
Ben Allen: Maybe tell me.

1971
03:17:19.740 --> 03:17:23.670
Ben Allen: What tell me tell me what you want to give me your some of your sense of what's going on with this one.

1972
03:17:25.620 --> 03:17:40.110
Daffodil Tyminski: Oh well, I mean we've got a State senate bill that will just dramatically change the way one can develop property in our Community, which is already sensitive and has a lot of development issues, to begin with, and so.

1973
03:17:41.310 --> 03:17:47.130
Daffodil Tyminski: I think some of us it was curious that you voted present when the bill was being addressed but.

1974
03:17:48.780 --> 03:17:50.700
Ben Allen: it's not there's no such thing as voting.

1975
03:17:51.000 --> 03:17:56.280
Daffodil Tyminski: You know you're right I sorry I correct myself you you, you were a talent, you were accounted for his presence.

1976
03:17:56.310 --> 03:17:57.360
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah whoa.

1977
03:17:58.080 --> 03:18:07.890
Daffodil Tyminski: whoa for our Community, we just like to know where you stand on it, because it will have a dramatic impact on the next say 10 to 15 years of development, our Community.

1978
03:18:08.730 --> 03:18:16.560
Ben Allen: yeah i'll get i'll get back to you guys with more of the the concerns, but I know this was part of a package of bills that quite frankly i'm pretty skeptical of.

1979
03:18:17.070 --> 03:18:26.580
Ben Allen: And you know they need the they need us, they need to get to 21 votes for a bill to pass, and if you don't vote for a bill, it has the effect of a no vote.

1980
03:18:27.360 --> 03:18:35.910
Ben Allen: And you know I do know that Senator Skinner, who is the author of the bill has been working hard to try to he does tend to be a little bit more interested in trying to find.

1981
03:18:36.630 --> 03:18:44.910
Ben Allen: On kind of some common ground in these kinds of these kinds of bills, but I think in general, my my concern is he i'll have to go back and look look through my notes.

1982
03:18:45.930 --> 03:18:56.880
Ben Allen: But but, but I think my my general concern with this and with sb nine sb 10 other bills as well, has been on that that that that, from my perspective, my colleagues have been.

1983
03:18:57.570 --> 03:19:03.060
Ben Allen: i've been really, really pushing for bills that I think are a little too heavy handed I think that they.

1984
03:19:03.450 --> 03:19:11.220
Ben Allen: They micromanage the the planning and zoning and development process at the local level in ways that I just don't feel comfortable with i'm certainly happy to.

1985
03:19:11.700 --> 03:19:21.390
Ben Allen: You know I support SP 35 from a long time back this from my perspective, it created a good incentive system, but it also it put on.

1986
03:19:22.170 --> 03:19:33.750
Ben Allen: It sort of said to cities, well, you have to meet certain goals if you don't then these kinds of things will kick in but in the case of 330 and as they see i'm going through it quickly, right now, as well as nine and 10 especially nine.

1987
03:19:34.380 --> 03:19:42.690
Ben Allen: It my concern has been a sort of dictate terms for local communities and that that's something that i'm concerned about, from my perspective.

1988
03:19:43.350 --> 03:19:52.380
Ben Allen: And I would like to see the state work, you know, in a in a more you know, in a way, with with our cities that is less of a one size fits all model.

1989
03:19:53.130 --> 03:19:59.190
Ben Allen: That says the city's hey we'd like you to we'd like you to increase your housing stock but you, you can figure out how to do it and we'll work with you to.

1990
03:19:59.970 --> 03:20:08.040
Ben Allen: To do it in an effective way, but not not sort of impose a one size fits all fits all model to to your zoning practices at the local level.

1991
03:20:08.970 --> 03:20:09.240
Daffodil Tyminski: All right.

1992
03:20:09.600 --> 03:20:09.930
james murez: Let me.

1993
03:20:10.020 --> 03:20:12.930
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you so much i'll pass to other folks just to.

1994
03:20:12.930 --> 03:20:13.650
james murez: Without the time.

1995
03:20:13.800 --> 03:20:17.040
Ben Allen: And I apologize for night I mean honestly us it was a few years back and it's.

1996
03:20:17.040 --> 03:20:24.150
Ben Allen: I know it's crazy, this is the first time ever been asked about that particular but I get asked about nine and 10 a lot, but that hasn't come up but I guess.

1997
03:20:26.040 --> 03:20:29.220
james murez: But let me, let me get another person how much time do you have.

1998
03:20:30.660 --> 03:20:34.020
Ben Allen: I mean until my wife comes in here and kicks me out of the out of time.

1999
03:20:34.530 --> 03:20:37.470
james murez: i'm allie you want to go ahead, your hand can was an excellent oh.

2000
03:20:37.890 --> 03:20:45.030
Alley Bean: i'm sorry, this is not, this is certainly not a short question I want to thank you so much for being here i've spoken with you, before and I think you're awesome and.

2001
03:20:45.360 --> 03:20:54.930
Alley Bean: Thank you for coming to talk with all of us, I just my heart sort of jumped when when I heard that you had $12 billion of funds for homelessness.

2002
03:20:55.860 --> 03:21:09.510
Alley Bean: I was so happy to hear that idea I didn't realize that the pandemic gave us actually you know somebody that that's great news I just was wondering, you know sort of your I haven't talked to you about your stance on everything there.

2003
03:21:10.590 --> 03:21:13.560
Alley Bean: And you know sort of what you would want to spend that money on.

2004
03:21:15.030 --> 03:21:24.270
Alley Bean: i'm particularly involved personally i'm for personal reasons as well with the fact that we we've had sort of an open air drug market in Venice.

2005
03:21:24.990 --> 03:21:36.030
Alley Bean: Recently, on the boardwalk and a lot of people have died a lot, a lot of people unhappy people have died because of you know, the availability of fentanyl and and math.

2006
03:21:36.540 --> 03:21:52.410
Alley Bean: You know, especially on the boardwalk which they they tried to clean up but i'm just wondering, are you sort of a housing first advocate only, or do you believe in rehabilitation to and and trying to deal with the drug problem i'm just sure yeah.

2007
03:21:53.850 --> 03:21:58.050
Ben Allen: I think I mean look I I recognize that there is.

2008
03:21:59.100 --> 03:22:09.240
Ben Allen: i've read a lot of the stuff I think I think there's I think there's so much value to the housing first model, but I also, ultimately, I think that it's a little, at least as its as its as it is.

2009
03:22:11.100 --> 03:22:16.980
Ben Allen: As it has been practiced I think it's a little too restrictive, ultimately, I think, in a perfect world it's a great way.

2010
03:22:18.300 --> 03:22:24.720
Ben Allen: You know, to do things, but I do have you know i've got done in Redondo beach, for example, they've got this wonderful pilot Program.

2011
03:22:25.590 --> 03:22:35.520
Ben Allen: That does have a few restrictions on on on the the folks who go and live in these these these small homes these micro homes and it's a way to get them back on their feet.

2012
03:22:36.300 --> 03:22:48.300
Ben Allen: And, of course, you know, unfortunately we've been struggling to get them the funding that I think they deserve to the State because it's not a it doesn't conform with the strict definition of housing first.

2013
03:22:48.840 --> 03:22:52.950
Ben Allen: Right, as I as as as pushed by.

2014
03:22:54.060 --> 03:22:59.280
Ben Allen: supervisor Mitchell, who passed a bill, a few years back on this topic and I just.

2015
03:22:59.700 --> 03:23:01.500
Alley Bean: can't get money is that what happens.

2016
03:23:01.560 --> 03:23:15.720
Ben Allen: yeah exactly exactly because it's not it doesn't it's not a strict housing first model, they do have some requirements for the folks who go and live there, and you know courses, you know the philosophy behind housing first is don't ask any questions.

2017
03:23:16.710 --> 03:23:25.740
Ben Allen: Take anybody, and yet there's some really good programs out there that do have a couple of requirements and that you create a better environment for that, for you know for those folks who really are trying to get back on their feet.

2018
03:23:26.160 --> 03:23:38.850
Ben Allen: And I think they deserve funding to I guess that I I just it's it's become my my I see, and I believe in the value of the housing first model, but I also think there's some other good models out there and I don't want to see us.

2019
03:23:39.420 --> 03:23:54.900
Ben Allen: restrict access to funding for models that may be a little bit on you, they might they might not strictly adhere to the housing first model that might have a few restrictions on on drug use or alcohol use.

2020
03:23:56.100 --> 03:23:59.640
Ben Allen: For those who come in, you know for those for those who want to participate in the Program.

2021
03:24:00.660 --> 03:24:01.560
Alley Bean: Thank you so much.

2022
03:24:01.620 --> 03:24:02.160
james murez: Thank you.

2023
03:24:02.340 --> 03:24:07.830
james murez: encouraged Thank you what let's take a question from from vicki go ahead vicki.

2024
03:24:10.590 --> 03:24:13.860
vickihalliday: Yes, i'll try and make this brief, first of all thank you for attending.

2025
03:24:14.370 --> 03:24:30.480
vickihalliday: um in addition to holding the oil companies accountable for pollution, would you do the same thing or will you to the city and the county who are allowing illegal dumping and pollution in the bio wetlands.

2026
03:24:32.550 --> 03:24:38.760
Ben Allen: yeah I mean, to the extent that's happening, of course, you want to what is there something specific your your your you're referring to.

2027
03:24:39.000 --> 03:24:46.110
vickihalliday: yeah I mean you know there's there's a huge IV encampment there lots has been dumped in there, the wildlife has been hurt.

2028
03:24:46.440 --> 03:24:47.970
Ben Allen: The city hasn't been doing that right.

2029
03:24:49.860 --> 03:24:53.340
vickihalliday: Well it's the it's the city and the county.

2030
03:24:54.000 --> 03:25:00.000
Ben Allen: But your point is that they've had their lacks enforcement there as well as as allowed this to.

2031
03:25:00.120 --> 03:25:01.440
vickihalliday: To her yeah.

2032
03:25:02.940 --> 03:25:03.780
vickihalliday: So I mean.

2033
03:25:04.200 --> 03:25:08.370
Ben Allen: I mean it's it's obviously it's a little bit less of a direct nexus that.

2034
03:25:08.400 --> 03:25:08.670
Ben Allen: You know.

2035
03:25:08.970 --> 03:25:22.170
Ben Allen: In the case of have you know, an oil spill on but but, that being said, i'm certainly very troubled by by the by the environmental degradation that's been happening at the at the wetlands Okay, and you know from my perspective on.

2036
03:25:24.120 --> 03:25:26.220
Ben Allen: You know they they should be, they should be.

2037
03:25:27.270 --> 03:25:30.900
Ben Allen: They should be policing the situation they're much better and.

2038
03:25:32.490 --> 03:25:35.460
Ben Allen: You know I I struggled to I kind of wonder what.

2039
03:25:39.240 --> 03:25:43.080
Ben Allen: I don't I don't know I mean it's an interesting question, I wonder what our role would be to.

2040
03:25:43.860 --> 03:25:53.610
Ben Allen: win some of some of the land of state land of the State land is actually largely blocked off, and, of course, you know there's a lot of folks who want to want to expand public access and I think there's a lot to be said for public access, as long as it's something.

2041
03:25:53.820 --> 03:25:58.620
Ben Allen: that's truly publicly accessible that doesn't just become another encampment because it is a.

2042
03:25:59.640 --> 03:26:04.110
Ben Allen: it's a fragile and very special ecological zone.

2043
03:26:05.130 --> 03:26:10.140
Ben Allen: And so I guess so you're talking about trying to I don't know that I would want to.

2044
03:26:14.070 --> 03:26:18.930
Ben Allen: I mean it's a good question you're certainly I don't know that I want to run a bill to call the whole the county.

2045
03:26:20.550 --> 03:26:35.910
Ben Allen: liable for the damages caused by third parties that aren't that aren't that aren't they don't have any control over but but, but your points well taken right to the local authority should be doing a better job of ensuring that the folks aren't going in there and falling the.

2046
03:26:37.110 --> 03:26:40.050
Ben Allen: The the wetlands there and.

2047
03:26:40.230 --> 03:26:41.430
vickihalliday: Just something to think about.

2048
03:26:41.430 --> 03:26:50.730
Ben Allen: yeah I know it's something to think about I think I appreciate the point, let me, let me, let me tell my staff about about how we can, how we can play a role in being more.

2049
03:26:52.080 --> 03:27:07.770
Ben Allen: In in in protecting the ground there i've read about it i've driven by it, I haven't actually walked it recently but it's my understanding that that that at least a portion just just west of Lincoln has gotten really messed up and.

2050
03:27:09.180 --> 03:27:13.110
Ben Allen: I would like, if someone's got some creative ideas about how I can play a role in helping to.

2051
03:27:14.640 --> 03:27:19.200
Ben Allen: remediate that situation i'm certainly interested in hearing ideas okay.

2052
03:27:19.590 --> 03:27:21.780
james murez: Thank you, thank you let's Melissa.

2053
03:27:23.100 --> 03:27:30.570
melissadiner: I Ben Thank you so much for being here, I know it's late, I had reached out to your office and I was just curious about.

2054
03:27:30.990 --> 03:27:37.290
melissadiner: your thoughts on the covert relief for tenants and landlords it was a program that was first.

2055
03:27:37.830 --> 03:27:44.520
melissadiner: You had to apply to the city, then those applications that were rather lengthy were cancelled and we had to apply to the state.

2056
03:27:45.000 --> 03:27:50.520
melissadiner: and moving forward, I think both tenants and landlords just want some clarity that even if they're one of.

2057
03:27:50.760 --> 03:28:01.440
melissadiner: The few or many that actually end up receiving those funds What will be next covert is not over some of those same tenants I don't know if they ever will be able to pay rent.

2058
03:28:01.710 --> 03:28:15.750
melissadiner: Some of those landlords may not be able to continue to pay their mortgage i'm just wondering if you have any clarity on what will happen after those checks arrive, and if you guys are working on a next step past when those checks arrived Thank you so much.

2059
03:28:15.810 --> 03:28:21.210
Ben Allen: yeah I know it's a great question we actually had a whole webinar on this very topic, and we can we can put up a link.

2060
03:28:21.900 --> 03:28:38.460
Ben Allen: On so folks can can watch it it's a it's a little old now but, but it was only I don't know it's about a month or two ago and the rules really haven't changed much um so okay so for folks to know first of all, we put in an eviction more aquarium in place a little while back.

2061
03:28:39.510 --> 03:28:46.770
Ben Allen: And it was you know it's ultimately helped it was it was put in place to help curb the spread of cover 19 and to protect you know, protect individuals and families.

2062
03:28:47.220 --> 03:28:55.770
Ben Allen: From the economic hardships caused by the pandemic and the Federal Government under both President trump and President Biden.

2063
03:28:57.150 --> 03:29:09.930
Ben Allen: You know, agreed with this policy as well, now, of course, our state went further we extended the moratorium through September 30 of this year, but then we also took pretty unprecedented action to cover.

2064
03:29:11.310 --> 03:29:19.410
Ben Allen: 100% of past due and prospective rent payments, as well as overdue water and utility bills so on.

2065
03:29:20.520 --> 03:29:32.220
Ben Allen: So you know we got federal money and we've put a lot of that money into into making sure that any any any any tenant who is continuing to struggle to pay rent as a result of the pandemic.

2066
03:29:32.910 --> 03:29:45.750
Ben Allen: I will have some support and and so on, you know so so so basically the the past moratorium and the current pandemic related eviction protections for non payment of rent only apply.

2067
03:29:46.260 --> 03:29:48.450
Ben Allen: If the tenant is in financial distress now.

2068
03:29:49.170 --> 03:29:57.810
Ben Allen: A landlord who wants to evict a tenant for failing to pay rent to continue with the court proceedings only after first applying for rental assistance, so they have to actually give.

2069
03:29:58.080 --> 03:30:04.170
Ben Allen: A good faith effort to try to to get that rental assessment assistance as opposed to going after the tenant.

2070
03:30:05.010 --> 03:30:11.040
Ben Allen: And then qualifying landlords and tenants will receive literally 100% of all unpaid rent accrued since the beginning of the pandemic.

2071
03:30:11.340 --> 03:30:16.530
Ben Allen: And they can continue to apply as long as their continued financial need and the programmer means funded.

2072
03:30:17.340 --> 03:30:22.860
Ben Allen: Now i'm so much that is currently funded by the Federal Government, it was from a previous stimulus fund.

2073
03:30:23.730 --> 03:30:34.650
Ben Allen: it's not going to last forever, but there certainly continues to be quite a bit of resources in that fund so if folks you know want and need access to that fund.

2074
03:30:35.160 --> 03:30:53.760
Ben Allen: And we certainly stand very interested in trying to help, and so, if you are a landlord or your tenant with outstanding debt, please apply for rental assistance at online its housing housing.ca.gov very simple housing.ca.gov my staff and correct me if i'm wrong.

2075
03:30:55.380 --> 03:31:01.320
Ben Allen: You know I think the other thing I was just mentioned, is that my my colleagues and I are also acutely aware that that renting Homeowners on.

2076
03:31:02.040 --> 03:31:12.300
Ben Allen: On you know i'm sorry that that that that that that that Homeowners paying a mortgage may have lost all our part of their their on.

2077
03:31:12.990 --> 03:31:23.340
Ben Allen: Their their much needed income so there's that so basically, the idea is that that there's there's finding it's going to be available through this this program housing.ca.gov.

2078
03:31:23.910 --> 03:31:34.740
Ben Allen: And you can also reach out to our office our numbers 310-318-6994 and so, if there's anyone who needs help getting access to this money, please let us know.

2079
03:31:35.190 --> 03:31:46.170
Ben Allen: I think, right now, the the law that requires landlords to to apply for the rental assistance, before proceeding with an eviction sunsets at the end of March, and in this coming year.

2080
03:31:46.740 --> 03:31:49.680
Ben Allen: The program itself will continue until funds are depleted.

2081
03:31:50.550 --> 03:32:01.200
Ben Allen: And you know, but I think we're gonna we're gonna have to take a long hard look at the at the state of the covert crisis, the extent to which people are being able to get back to work.

2082
03:32:01.800 --> 03:32:08.790
Ben Allen: The extent to which we've got funding to help continue to pay for this program and then make some decisions as we get closer to that march deadline.

2083
03:32:09.300 --> 03:32:24.210
Ben Allen: But suffice to say right now, if you need help either you know if you need help or your as a renter or if you if you are renters if you are a landlord and your renters need help, there is ample funding still available.

2084
03:32:24.990 --> 03:32:38.160
Ben Allen: For those folks who have been genuinely impacted by the covert crisis and that's impacted their ability to pay rent so go check out housing.ca.gov and see if you can access the program and if you have any trouble, please do contact our office directly.

2085
03:32:39.750 --> 03:32:41.940
james murez: um do we have time for two more questions.

2086
03:32:42.060 --> 03:32:49.650
james murez: yeah sure okay elite go ahead let's try and keep them short and simple and maybe we can get through everything tonight still yet to go.

2087
03:32:50.670 --> 03:32:55.710
Alix: Thanks Jim Thank you senator for coming to speak to us just want to go back to sb 330.

2088
03:32:56.820 --> 03:33:01.860
Alix: And sort of winners sort of approach to sort of one handed solutions on our housing crisis.

2089
03:33:02.250 --> 03:33:10.440
Alix: So right now SP 330 has a one to one replacement on affordable units that are demolished right through lls or any other sort of thing and the developer gets density bonuses.

2090
03:33:10.740 --> 03:33:18.750
Alix: There is talk of having this not just be one to one replacement, but the affordable units will have to be additive to what was already.

2091
03:33:19.950 --> 03:33:26.730
Alix: taken out or destroyed from the market, what are your thoughts on that, and do you think is that comes to pass your colleagues will be.

2092
03:33:28.440 --> 03:33:31.890
Alix: Have the appetite to push this through in the Senate.

2093
03:33:33.450 --> 03:33:36.780
Ben Allen: You said that 330 already we're talking about the one that already won.

2094
03:33:37.590 --> 03:33:46.530
Alix: A free 330 has one to one So if you have a building with seven affordable units and you take it down and you get Dempsey bonuses and you put back seven and put put in let's say there were 10 units.

2095
03:33:46.800 --> 03:33:54.600
Alix: And now you put in 30 units those seven units meet the one to one, as opposed to say okay you're getting your debt density bonuses seven are going back in.

2096
03:33:55.050 --> 03:34:12.930
Alix: The affordable has to be additive On top of that, so what is it 25% of I think it's 25% additional affordable in a density project I could be wrong on the numbers 30 units now you're adding additional what seven units so 14 units affordable, as opposed to just seven hours with 30 units.

2097
03:34:14.010 --> 03:34:15.930
Ben Allen: And you're Okay, so this is going to be.

2098
03:34:15.930 --> 03:34:17.190
Alix: know that there's talk of.

2099
03:34:17.640 --> 03:34:26.820
Alix: there's top of trying to amend SP 30 to have 330 excuse me to have additive replacement, not just one to one replacement.

2100
03:34:26.880 --> 03:34:37.260
Alix: Oh interesting if you're getting your density bonuses and you're taking away a 10 unit or 15 unit building and you're getting bonuses and parking restrictions to now put in 25 or 30 units.

2101
03:34:38.670 --> 03:34:43.980
Alix: The the affordability those not mistaken, you replace the from the total number of units.

2102
03:34:45.600 --> 03:34:52.800
Alix: And that's been the I believe those amendments are being discussed, right now, and people are trying in different communities in Los Angeles trying to push that through.

2103
03:34:53.100 --> 03:35:02.190
Ben Allen: This money yeah no I mean so and we're okay and who's actually working on trying to do these amendments that he said that's that's they're working with Senator winner in this.

2104
03:35:02.490 --> 03:35:08.970
Alix: I don't know it's come up in different we've the West side regional association council so it's come up as a topic of conversation.

2105
03:35:08.970 --> 03:35:10.770
Alix: There um.

2106
03:35:13.440 --> 03:35:16.050
Alix: And it's definitely been floated around on several meetings.

2107
03:35:16.170 --> 03:35:18.600
Ben Allen: Interesting who's who's pushing for it.

2108
03:35:19.890 --> 03:35:26.010
Alix: I don't know i'd have to go back and go through i'm sorry I just got back into town after two months out five days ago so i'm.

2109
03:35:27.060 --> 03:35:28.560
Alix: Sorry it's the holidays.

2110
03:35:28.890 --> 03:35:42.480
Ben Allen: yeah if you wouldn't mind we'll do a little digging around I mean honestly this I you know i'm glad i'm glad this is the I honestly i've been on so many of these news, this is the literally, the first time that folks are brought up sb 330, and so I obviously need to do a little bit more.

2111
03:35:43.560 --> 03:35:56.400
Ben Allen: Efficient around and you and daffodil if you want to, if you want to be in touch with our office, and we, you know we're certainly happy to to do a little bit more a little more digging to see what's happening with this is additive replacement issue that you just raised.

2112
03:35:57.150 --> 03:36:02.070
james murez: Thank you, so we have a couple more people that have been very patient having their hands up and we're running out of time.

2113
03:36:02.220 --> 03:36:03.750
james murez: yeah um let me.

2114
03:36:04.200 --> 03:36:07.290
Ben Allen: We can make it super quick James because now my man my wife is.

2115
03:36:07.650 --> 03:36:15.570
james murez: Okay NICO unique Oh, you had your hand up already, and then we have Barry and we'll call it that I won't even ask my question.

2116
03:36:18.090 --> 03:36:19.650
Nico Ruderman: Thank you so much for being here Center I really.

2117
03:36:19.920 --> 03:36:30.030
Nico Ruderman: appreciate you taking your time Mike my question has to do with schools and i'm curious if you feel like there's anything that can be done on a statewide level to protect schools from encampments.

2118
03:36:30.750 --> 03:36:32.910
Nico Ruderman: Because so far our city and county have.

2119
03:36:33.840 --> 03:36:42.330
Nico Ruderman: been pretty absent in the matter you know we've had several schools in our communities that have been really affected by a camp that's been a while we can't criminalize homelessness throughout our whole community.

2120
03:36:42.930 --> 03:36:53.100
Nico Ruderman: You know, children are I feel like needs to be protected, you know you know we have several schools in our Community they're having issues you know, including.

2121
03:36:53.700 --> 03:37:00.960
Nico Ruderman: Two weeks ago there's a dead body found sidewalk that the children had to drive past and it was an odd 34 year old man.

2122
03:37:01.650 --> 03:37:14.460
Nico Ruderman: whose parents have tried to get them off the street it wasn't a housing issue was a drug issue, and then a week later, an rv exploded during school pickup by 100 feet from the kindergarten about 10 feet away from where that man died.

2123
03:37:15.330 --> 03:37:16.980
Nico Ruderman: On the same school and we have.

2124
03:37:17.070 --> 03:37:27.720
Nico Ruderman: Several other schools in our Community here in Venice that are really being being drastically affected by it's in our city and county so far have done little to nothing to.

2125
03:37:29.340 --> 03:37:30.240
Nico Ruderman: deal with this issue.

2126
03:37:30.660 --> 03:37:35.250
Ben Allen: And in you know requested the school district has its own police force and.

2127
03:37:36.180 --> 03:37:38.100
james murez: stops it stops at the fence.

2128
03:37:38.820 --> 03:37:45.300
Ben Allen: uh huh and why why aren't the COPs doing anything to they're just it's the typical.

2129
03:37:45.930 --> 03:37:47.280
soledad ursua: You funded our play.

2130
03:37:47.370 --> 03:37:48.090
question.

2131
03:37:50.130 --> 03:37:50.820
Nico Ruderman: very good question.

2132
03:37:53.010 --> 03:37:53.400
soledad ursua: Please.

2133
03:37:53.460 --> 03:37:55.440
james murez: let's let's keep this under control, one.

2134
03:37:56.340 --> 03:38:07.740
Ben Allen: All right, look, I mean i'm certainly very sympathetic to this, I you know i've got a kid myself and and you know that the situation you're describing is is just unacceptable i'm gonna i'll contact.

2135
03:38:08.850 --> 03:38:18.270
Ben Allen: Nick melvoin and i'll will also reach out to my bonds office to see see what the story is at least from their perspective, but from my you know if, certainly if you have ideas about.

2136
03:38:18.720 --> 03:38:32.910
Ben Allen: Think, I mean I mean ultimately what you're talking about if I got all these issues, except for the 330 issues are basically you know issues that ultimately are are are dealt with at the local level, and I can I can push cajole trying to convince or encourage.

2137
03:38:32.910 --> 03:38:44.010
Nico Ruderman: Her, I guess, I guess, my my question is, is there a way on a statewide level to to pass statewide legislature to protect all schools, when we have city council members, such as Mike bond who refuse to.

2138
03:38:45.450 --> 03:38:46.920
Nico Ruderman: and enable this behavior.

2139
03:38:47.190 --> 03:39:04.950
Ben Allen: yeah I mean local policing is some is a local it's a local thing I mean I, but I will say I mean, to the extent that that you know the school district has its own separate entity and yeah I would think that Nick could also use his bully pulpit and it also is kind of.

2140
03:39:06.120 --> 03:39:14.790
Ben Allen: His position within the La political structure to try to push back on on anyone who tries to claim that we shouldn't be creating safe zones around our schools.

2141
03:39:15.180 --> 03:39:23.910
Ben Allen: And i'm certainly you know I mean i'll i'm glad you bring this up i'm happy to spend some time looking into it, I you know from my perspective, I would want I would want to be part of a group that would.

2142
03:39:25.170 --> 03:39:30.360
Ben Allen: That would that would that would be raising alarms about this kinds of challenges and you're talking about I mean I you know, I think.

2143
03:39:31.890 --> 03:39:33.210
Ben Allen: It seems it seems.

2144
03:39:34.230 --> 03:39:39.420
Ben Allen: crazy to me that Mike would would want there to be those kinds of conditions next to our schools.

2145
03:39:40.530 --> 03:39:41.610
Nico Ruderman: seems crazy to us all.

2146
03:39:42.000 --> 03:39:42.570
james murez: Thank you.

2147
03:39:42.600 --> 03:39:43.800
Nico Ruderman: For your comment you.

2148
03:39:43.830 --> 03:39:52.110
james murez: follow up with you on this one, because it's been a problem for over a year yeah we have one last person that's had his hand up this whole time Barry you're not on the.

2149
03:39:52.590 --> 03:40:00.930
james murez: Council per se you're on a committee, but will give you the opportunity because you've been here all this time to go ahead and ask your question okay.

2150
03:40:02.190 --> 03:40:18.990
barrycassilly: Then I just wanted to say that this has been sort of an amazing call for me in that it's a political conversation, and I can tell you, you know you just put your kids to bed, you really weren't ready for this you stepped into Venice and.

2151
03:40:20.010 --> 03:40:36.000
barrycassilly: You didn't have all the answers but it's really refreshing to to like see you react like honestly as a person to these questions um, so I think that for myself and most of the people on this call.

2152
03:40:37.260 --> 03:40:42.780
barrycassilly: We see that as an extremely positive thing we'd love to engage with you in the future.

2153
03:40:45.420 --> 03:40:50.580
Ben Allen: appreciate it, I think you you correctly identify I mean i'm a little I mean honestly I apologize for not.

2154
03:40:51.540 --> 03:40:58.170
Ben Allen: Having you know, a better answers on a couple of these things but, but this is why we do these these meetings right because i'm ultimately.

2155
03:40:58.590 --> 03:41:11.160
Ben Allen: It puts these issues on my on our radar screen and and you know I don't know James I mean if you're the right person to to to interface with, but I would love to to my staff is on the call.

2156
03:41:12.330 --> 03:41:13.050
barrycassilly: Ben.

2157
03:41:13.410 --> 03:41:14.700
barrycassilly: Ben don't apologize you.

2158
03:41:14.700 --> 03:41:14.820
vickihalliday: Are.

2159
03:41:14.880 --> 03:41:18.690
Ben Allen: unintentional great okay all right appreciate appreciate your time.

2160
03:41:18.720 --> 03:41:28.440
james murez: What will we will work towards having you back again soon and have a great holiday season and we'll look forward to seeing you back up in sacramento on the third I guess.

2161
03:41:28.800 --> 03:41:36.420
Ben Allen: I appreciate that, in terms of just getting some follow up from these various questions on you, the press person worked through James for my staff, I guess.

2162
03:41:36.420 --> 03:41:36.990
Ben Allen: No wiki.

2163
03:41:37.230 --> 03:41:45.540
james murez: So i'm president of this Council and we have a secretary us online as well, it was also all recorded and translate will be transcribed at the end of the zoom call.

2164
03:41:45.720 --> 03:41:55.200
james murez: Great um you know we'll we'll go back through it pull out the questions and and yeah i'm sure that we'll be happy to provide you with some sort of written questionnaire of some sort.

2165
03:41:55.230 --> 03:41:56.730
Ben Allen: Okay okay good.

2166
03:41:57.390 --> 03:41:58.350
Thank you guys so much.

2167
03:42:00.300 --> 03:42:00.660
Nico Ruderman: Thank you.

2168
03:42:03.300 --> 03:42:04.830
Alix: Thank you happy holidays.

2169
03:42:06.630 --> 03:42:07.380
Mike Bravo: Jim gay.

2170
03:42:07.410 --> 03:42:13.200
Mike Bravo: Question um I will then other board and non board members speak on these occasions.

2171
03:42:14.160 --> 03:42:22.650
james murez: Barry was here as part of a committee know normally we wouldn't do that, but for some reason he didn't get demoted and I didn't want to.

2172
03:42:24.720 --> 03:42:34.770
james murez: You know, take take everybody else's hand up and his was sitting there and not take it so you'd normally, we would not take other.

2173
03:42:37.530 --> 03:42:53.010
james murez: Not non whatever we're calling non board member questions but i'm trying to i'm having a hard time trying to figure out even how to demote him i'm clicking on the three little icon ones, and I don't have that option on my zoom call.

2174
03:42:53.640 --> 03:42:54.030
barrycassilly: i'll just.

2175
03:42:54.420 --> 03:42:56.580
barrycassilly: i'll just log off's on demoted and come back again.

2176
03:42:57.210 --> 03:43:00.060
james murez: Well, there should be a way somehow.

2177
03:43:01.080 --> 03:43:06.840
james murez: But i'm not sure how to do it, we want to continue our meeting because we have a lot of items to still go over.

2178
03:43:08.010 --> 03:43:15.000
james robb: That being said, is there any way we can get a continuance on this 29 because I think it's going to be a long dreads.

2179
03:43:15.180 --> 03:43:20.550
james murez: don't I don't think we want to do that, I think we want to take it on because it's something that.

2180
03:43:21.510 --> 03:43:27.030
james murez: has come before us once before three months back four months back and we pushed it off to pack.

2181
03:43:27.630 --> 03:43:41.940
james murez: Pack didn't respond to it, so we want to go ahead and and deal with it now I don't think there are any other urgent items on the calendar at this point, and I think we should just keep going until we run out of time, I think you know, we have an hour and a half.

2182
03:43:42.270 --> 03:43:43.770
Alley Bean: Jimmy holidays plenty.

2183
03:43:44.580 --> 03:43:44.670
james murez: Of.

2184
03:43:44.820 --> 03:43:46.500
james murez: Time to finish up what.

2185
03:43:46.980 --> 03:43:56.190
Alley Bean: i'd like to make a point of order, you know, because you said you wanted this meeting to be short and that's why we started at six and I we've all got families it's it's holiday time.

2186
03:43:58.770 --> 03:44:03.270
james robb: To continue it does that the point of order, and if I get a second or no.

2187
03:44:03.570 --> 03:44:04.950
Alix: i'll second it Jim.

2188
03:44:05.550 --> 03:44:10.410
Alley Bean: Nigel I mean you, Jim, you said you wanted the meeting to be short tonight when I spoke to you earlier.

2189
03:44:11.880 --> 03:44:13.350
james murez: i'm i'm not yeah I.

2190
03:44:13.380 --> 03:44:15.870
robertthibodeau: Do I do this, a stakeholder petition.

2191
03:44:16.170 --> 03:44:18.420
james murez: yeah, this is a stakeholder petition there's.

2192
03:44:18.780 --> 03:44:20.160
robertthibodeau: Typically, you hear a stakeholder.

2193
03:44:20.160 --> 03:44:21.150
robertthibodeau: petition immediately.

2194
03:44:22.470 --> 03:44:28.170
james murez: stakeholder petitioners the highest level of petition that we get that comes to our.

2195
03:44:28.170 --> 03:44:35.670
james murez: board it's just not right, Jim and what are these people, I think, is on your committee, of all people, this is the guy that put it on the on the calendar tonight.

2196
03:44:36.870 --> 03:44:38.640
james robb: My committee that's why i've asked him for a.

2197
03:44:40.050 --> 03:44:42.180
Alix: folder motion, I never saw copy of that.

2198
03:44:44.160 --> 03:44:44.730
james murez: Sorry.

2199
03:44:46.800 --> 03:44:54.270
Alix: Where was the stakeholder petition, I never saw copy of the petition with however many signatures, you need to have it as a stakeholder petition.

2200
03:44:54.690 --> 03:44:57.390
james murez: It was submitted to dap adele and I believe.

2201
03:44:59.700 --> 03:45:01.020
james murez: Melissa also has a coffee.

2202
03:45:01.860 --> 03:45:04.560
Alix: But the post to be distributed to the board.

2203
03:45:04.830 --> 03:45:05.670
james murez: where's that written.

2204
03:45:09.000 --> 03:45:11.070
melissadiner: I don't remember just have to make.

2205
03:45:11.520 --> 03:45:11.940
robertthibodeau: All.

2206
03:45:12.000 --> 03:45:18.600
melissadiner: If you're if you're making it an executive call to like keep this on and keep going or not, you know what I mean.

2207
03:45:19.560 --> 03:45:21.210
james murez: we're going to keep this on and keep.

2208
03:45:21.210 --> 03:45:23.340
Alley Bean: Going I can't we take a vote to.

2209
03:45:23.340 --> 03:45:24.570
robertthibodeau: continue with Jim because.

2210
03:45:24.780 --> 03:45:24.960
In.

2211
03:45:26.310 --> 03:45:27.720
Alley Bean: The family, I mean.

2212
03:45:28.380 --> 03:45:31.560
CJ Cole: Everybody I think we have a motion on the floor with.

2213
03:45:32.070 --> 03:45:34.710
james robb: motion on the floor to continue this.

2214
03:45:34.800 --> 03:45:35.580
Alix: And by the way.

2215
03:45:36.180 --> 03:45:37.560
robertthibodeau: mature decision just put it.

2216
03:45:37.560 --> 03:45:39.360
james murez: On I think it's just I think I.

2217
03:45:40.920 --> 03:45:41.400
Alley Bean: emotional.

2218
03:45:43.110 --> 03:45:43.680
james murez: Ivan.

2219
03:45:46.020 --> 03:45:47.100
james murez: Ivan alright.

2220
03:45:47.580 --> 03:45:49.710
Ivan: go on to the next one.

2221
03:45:50.790 --> 03:46:01.950
Ivan: I i'm going to go into the bylaws from look up about petitions but you're right the maybe language that we have to hear it within a certain number of days so go on to the next item.

2222
03:46:02.070 --> 03:46:03.150
Ivan: And we can come back in.

2223
03:46:04.260 --> 03:46:06.870
CJ Cole: 60 days, though well.

2224
03:46:06.960 --> 03:46:07.980
Ivan: Let me look and see.

2225
03:46:08.430 --> 03:46:13.560
robertthibodeau: We had stakeholder petition before they've been heard immediately after the petitions were filed.

2226
03:46:18.360 --> 03:46:19.320
Ivan: Your screens on.

2227
03:46:20.790 --> 03:46:21.780
Ivan: i'll come back to it.

2228
03:46:24.150 --> 03:46:28.290
james murez: We have several people also that have been on the.

2229
03:46:29.340 --> 03:46:30.180
james murez: Call tonight.

2230
03:46:31.410 --> 03:46:39.180
james murez: Just because of this one item, and it would be very I mean we said 56 people in the audience would be very unfair to all of those people.

2231
03:46:39.540 --> 03:46:40.050
CJ Cole: There is.

2232
03:46:40.290 --> 03:46:40.860
james murez: Not here.

2233
03:46:41.250 --> 03:46:45.780
Alley Bean: I think they'd probably love it if it's done in January, so we can discuss this.

2234
03:46:46.020 --> 03:46:46.800
robertthibodeau: Because it on.

2235
03:46:47.580 --> 03:46:49.110
robertthibodeau: To them, Jim just put it on him.

2236
03:46:49.170 --> 03:46:50.880
melissadiner: let's move on regardless.

2237
03:46:50.880 --> 03:46:52.320
melissadiner: Because there are.

2238
03:46:52.410 --> 03:46:58.740
melissadiner: There are other less controversial ones, we can either postpone or vote on now please Thank you.

2239
03:47:00.030 --> 03:47:02.730
james murez: We can look and see a short one well I.

2240
03:47:02.730 --> 03:47:04.350
Ivan: that's what i'm saying move on.

2241
03:47:04.380 --> 03:47:05.520
james murez: Ivan Ivan go.

2242
03:47:05.790 --> 03:47:06.360
Ivan: Back to it.

2243
03:47:07.260 --> 03:47:07.650
Ivan: Whatever.

2244
03:47:08.010 --> 03:47:10.050
james murez: Go look up what we need to have looked up.

2245
03:47:10.470 --> 03:47:11.790
Ivan: that's what i'm trying to do.

2246
03:47:12.330 --> 03:47:13.560
james murez: Okay, stop talking.

2247
03:47:14.640 --> 03:47:15.060
Ivan: minutes.

2248
03:47:15.540 --> 03:47:18.090
james murez: Thank you, thank you let's go on to 30.

2249
03:47:19.440 --> 03:47:24.690
james murez: This was put on by the parking transportation committee Robert Item number 30 do you want to.

2250
03:47:26.010 --> 03:47:27.240
james murez: address this one.

2251
03:47:28.320 --> 03:47:35.850
robertthibodeau: Helen fallon was the author of this to see is if she's in the audience perhaps she can speak toward towards it.

2252
03:47:37.560 --> 03:47:40.410
james murez: Do you want to just read the motion, so we can start the discussion going.

2253
03:47:40.590 --> 03:47:53.940
robertthibodeau: Happily, whereas regulations regarding rv camping on our city streets are long overdue, and the lack of regulation is created, public safety issues, considering disastrous impact of arby's and Jeff symbol of our.

2254
03:47:54.540 --> 03:48:05.610
robertthibodeau: Conditions in westchester parking lot and Venice boulevard in electric the neighborhood Councils just should be a Community impact statements, supporting the amendments to La MC.

2255
03:48:07.590 --> 03:48:16.200
robertthibodeau: deviancy Shell, submit a Community impact statement and supportive Council file 14 1057 dash s nine.

2256
03:48:16.860 --> 03:48:17.190
james murez: Thank you.

2257
03:48:17.220 --> 03:48:18.600
vickihalliday: Now second it vicki.

2258
03:48:19.140 --> 03:48:19.890
james murez: Thank you vicki.

2259
03:48:21.120 --> 03:48:27.870
james murez: um can we promote Helen to be a panelist please daffodil.

2260
03:48:29.610 --> 03:48:30.060
Daffodil Tyminski: Ellen.

2261
03:48:32.430 --> 03:48:34.770
Daffodil Tyminski: I do not believe she is on the call.

2262
03:48:36.240 --> 03:48:37.020
james murez: Okay, then.

2263
03:48:37.980 --> 03:48:38.610
Daffodil Tyminski: She is.

2264
03:48:38.640 --> 03:48:40.050
Daffodil Tyminski: Wait sorry she just.

2265
03:48:40.080 --> 03:48:42.600
Daffodil Tyminski: assumed around we Helen to be a panelists.

2266
03:48:42.870 --> 03:48:43.410
Yes.

2267
03:48:45.150 --> 03:48:48.060
james murez: Just to speak to the item, so we can get.

2268
03:48:49.440 --> 03:48:50.400
james murez: into public comment.

2269
03:48:54.510 --> 03:48:56.370
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay Helen has been promoted pamela.

2270
03:48:58.980 --> 03:49:01.200
james murez: Helen do you want to talk about this at all.

2271
03:49:01.440 --> 03:49:02.550
Helen Fallon: You put this on.

2272
03:49:02.580 --> 03:49:07.620
Helen Fallon: Yes, and I think after I I speak, perhaps you can bring the motion up.

2273
03:49:09.060 --> 03:49:18.120
Helen Fallon: Before the city, so people understand what you're voting on this is about controlling public spaces and yes we're going to hear from people that we can't control any public spaces.

2274
03:49:18.930 --> 03:49:33.450
Helen Fallon: But this is a way of the intent of this motion is to create a situation where rv dwellers become eligible for services so that they end up in housing eventually right now that's sort of this weird like.

2275
03:49:33.450 --> 03:49:34.590
robertthibodeau: you're watching.

2276
03:49:36.780 --> 03:49:37.380
Ivan: This.

2277
03:49:38.490 --> 03:49:38.730
Helen Fallon: know.

2278
03:49:38.760 --> 03:49:40.080
robertthibodeau: I come down, yes, we.

2279
03:49:40.080 --> 03:49:42.480
robertthibodeau: Clearly, have to watch your stuff on the to.

2280
03:49:42.720 --> 03:49:59.190
Helen Fallon: Clearly, have two types of our beers we have tourists and we have people who were genuinely homeless and need to be plugged into Lhasa, and all the services and to the eventually getting off the street living in an rv on the street, without the.

2281
03:49:59.190 --> 03:49:59.970
vickihalliday: services.

2282
03:50:00.420 --> 03:50:09.840
Helen Fallon: That they need like access to water, access to you know places to pump out their raw sewage and not dump it into our our.

2283
03:50:10.860 --> 03:50:23.010
Helen Fallon: storm drains is just simply not acceptable, this isn't an appropriate way it's not compassionate way for people to be living so that's the intent of this motion, I think you're going to hear from people that this criminalizes.

2284
03:50:23.280 --> 03:50:24.480
Helen Fallon: criminalize homeless.

2285
03:50:24.510 --> 03:50:33.210
Helen Fallon: It doesn't it sets up a permit system that's free it just means there has to be some compliance and some halford and some.

2286
03:50:33.450 --> 03:50:40.020
Helen Fallon: liaison with services and you just don't get to come and use Los Angeles, is a kale a campground.

2287
03:50:40.260 --> 03:50:44.700
james murez: Thank you Helen um, let us go ahead now and move to.

2288
03:50:46.920 --> 03:50:52.260
james murez: Public comment def adele you have your hand up can we get into public comment or do you have something.

2289
03:50:52.560 --> 03:50:54.930
Daffodil Tyminski: You know what I apologize that was for the last one.

2290
03:50:55.410 --> 03:51:00.720
Daffodil Tyminski: You do have public comment and on the phone 123456.

2291
03:51:00.750 --> 03:51:06.180
james murez: And that was that that's the motion right there that's on the screen right now, but to run the time clock I can't Keep it up so.

2292
03:51:06.900 --> 03:51:18.990
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah that's fine, this is a this is on at 502 yep and why don't we just get to the bottom, to Jim why don't we reread the progress, beginning with I therefore move and I further move.

2293
03:51:19.110 --> 03:51:19.560
james murez: Go ahead.

2294
03:51:20.190 --> 03:51:21.690
Daffodil Tyminski: OK so.

2295
03:51:25.320 --> 03:51:28.140
Daffodil Tyminski: The motion is long, but.

2296
03:51:29.610 --> 03:51:32.460
Daffodil Tyminski: Essentially it asked for a fee permit system.

2297
03:51:33.660 --> 03:51:35.910
Daffodil Tyminski: And this is starting third prior from the bottom.

2298
03:51:38.220 --> 03:51:50.040
Daffodil Tyminski: And the motion says, I move that the City Council direct the city administrative officer to prepare and release request for proposals for the administration and operation of a free permit program for vehicle dwelling on city streets.

2299
03:51:50.760 --> 03:51:57.240
Daffodil Tyminski: I further move that the Council present and adopt the text draft ordinance dated march 26 2015 relative to amending.

2300
03:51:59.280 --> 03:52:01.680
Daffodil Tyminski: To prohibit vehicle lodging on city streets.

2301
03:52:02.790 --> 03:52:10.320
Daffodil Tyminski: And this is all done I gym if you could scroll down a little bit there's a signature here, this is job was pay on emotion.

2302
03:52:12.360 --> 03:52:14.160
james murez: And it was seconded by Paul koretz.

2303
03:52:14.490 --> 03:52:18.150
Daffodil Tyminski: Right, so we do have some public comment here.

2304
03:52:18.300 --> 03:52:23.610
james murez: yeah let's let's go to the public comment yeah and and then come back to the committee.

2305
03:52:23.820 --> 03:52:33.600
Daffodil Tyminski: Right, so we have marlon right malloy Matthew Shaw, Michael Jensen goat puppet Sean o'brien least redmond and Jason Tom after Jason we are closing public comment.

2306
03:52:33.930 --> 03:52:39.180
james murez: And this is on the motion that is on the floor now, not the one that we skipped over that we're going to go back to in a minute.

2307
03:52:39.750 --> 03:52:40.890
Daffodil Tyminski: Right, I would hope so.

2308
03:52:41.190 --> 03:52:42.570
james murez: Okay, thank you.

2309
03:52:42.840 --> 03:52:44.400
Daffodil Tyminski: um Margaret.

2310
03:52:46.080 --> 03:52:46.560
Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead.

2311
03:52:55.080 --> 03:52:57.450
james murez: You know I never know if I should start the clock until they.

2312
03:52:57.480 --> 03:52:57.900
Daffodil Tyminski: All right.

2313
03:53:01.860 --> 03:53:11.160
Margaret Molloy: There you go you didn't get an option to unmute until right now, thank you so first off, I would say, recreational vehicle by definition was for people traveling.

2314
03:53:11.610 --> 03:53:16.920
Margaret Molloy: And many of my friends have come from my own and travel the state of California and recreational vehicles, because.

2315
03:53:17.280 --> 03:53:24.600
Margaret Molloy: Europeans are generally more adventurous than typical Americans and they like to see the countryside and everything in between so.

2316
03:53:25.050 --> 03:53:33.900
Margaret Molloy: The idea that a person who's traveling recreationally internationally, especially would get a permit is you know that's just not going to work and.

2317
03:53:34.380 --> 03:53:46.800
Margaret Molloy: If it requires some people to get permits and not others that's discriminatory at desert train said you can't impose constitutionally vague measures on people everything you propose, whether it's you know.

2318
03:53:49.560 --> 03:54:06.090
Margaret Molloy: you're not telling people what their positive option is only what they cannot do so I think it's a constitutional issue your you cannot deny people their rights, because that is constitutionally vague okay you can't do this, what can you do come on wake up.

2319
03:54:10.260 --> 03:54:15.240
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay Matthew sha are you intending to speak on this particular item.

2320
03:54:15.720 --> 03:54:22.740
matthewshaw: yeah I can speak to this so, believe it or not, I actually own an rv and i've traveled extensively across the United States and I.

2321
03:54:23.040 --> 03:54:32.790
matthewshaw: traveled extensively in an rv and other countries and it's laughable to think that people that are traveling in our wiis wherever they are, are not getting permits in the cities that they are staying in.

2322
03:54:33.180 --> 03:54:42.750
matthewshaw: That that's a general rule, everywhere, you go, you cannot park your rv on the street in a city and just live there, so people are very used to that.

2323
03:54:43.020 --> 03:54:51.660
matthewshaw: We should give people an opportunity and a place to go, but there should be no option to stay on the the streets of Venice or any other part of Los Angeles, and definitely.

2324
03:54:52.890 --> 03:54:55.410
matthewshaw: So I asked you to support this motion.

2325
03:54:57.240 --> 03:54:57.960
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you.

2326
03:54:59.580 --> 03:55:00.510
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm.

2327
03:55:01.620 --> 03:55:02.490
Daffodil Tyminski: Good puppet.

2328
03:55:04.710 --> 03:55:05.910
Daffodil Tyminski: Let us know what you think here.

2329
03:55:09.420 --> 03:55:10.650
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: On mute me damn it.

2330
03:55:12.060 --> 03:55:15.840
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: Okay did he so anything.

2331
03:55:16.920 --> 03:55:21.060
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: that's the hand of the evil Joe both strain on us not be allowed.

2332
03:55:22.080 --> 03:55:29.640
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: You know he's the devil, you know that he's a demon, and this is the work of CD.

2333
03:55:31.230 --> 03:55:32.700
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: Not CD 11.

2334
03:55:33.720 --> 03:55:55.230
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: What are you guys doing what are you guys doing trying to support these things, this is done by demons you don't want this, you know what you want is to be able to buy a brand new pretty camper with all the fixings and be able to live.

2335
03:55:59.490 --> 03:56:11.820
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: Yes, you keep fucking muting me all night why I don't know if you tell me, yes i'm against for job both guy no no on job blue sky no peace I get.

2336
03:56:13.560 --> 03:56:14.610
Daffodil Tyminski: All right.

2337
03:56:15.870 --> 03:56:17.880
Daffodil Tyminski: Sean o'brien go ahead.

2338
03:56:19.890 --> 03:56:37.710
Sean obrien: uh yeah it's unfortunate you know we have laws on the books that you know, do not get in force, we have to come up with creative ways to actually try to create some sort of balance and some sort of enforcement and stop the madness support the motion, thank you.

2339
03:56:40.230 --> 03:56:44.850
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks so much john and Lisa redman last last speaker.

2340
03:56:48.660 --> 03:57:00.660
lisaredmond: yeah there's an absolute reason the 8502 expired, the first time it's full of lawsuits there's so many holes in it, and the same thing will happen again here.

2341
03:57:01.800 --> 03:57:04.500
lisaredmond: don't be fooled by a free permit.

2342
03:57:05.610 --> 03:57:11.820
lisaredmond: is going to make people eligible for services heck they're already eligible for services they don't need a permit.

2343
03:57:12.630 --> 03:57:22.620
lisaredmond: Then losses not doing their job well that's another thing, but the free permits then later goes on to criminalization because you're not following what you want to do.

2344
03:57:23.460 --> 03:57:29.100
lisaredmond: All it will do is force people to move away from the services that they're already connected to if you really want to help.

2345
03:57:29.490 --> 03:57:41.610
lisaredmond: people that are living in arby's and get them off the street, then demand wall to wall why aren't there more safe campgrounds for arby's why aren't there more specific dumping grounds, why aren't there more services for people living in vehicles.

2346
03:57:42.180 --> 03:57:50.340
lisaredmond: don't punish the poor and like go puppet said Fuck Joe bus guy you know i'm tired of his hero worship here in Venice.

2347
03:57:53.220 --> 03:57:56.370
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, with that we're closing public comment i'm.

2348
03:57:57.540 --> 03:58:03.660
james murez: Okay we're back to the motion Item number 30 is there any committee comment.

2349
03:58:05.760 --> 03:58:08.400
james murez: Clark, you have your hand up what a surprise.

2350
03:58:10.050 --> 03:58:27.900
clark brown: As I understand, item 30 it's not a vote on whether to approve or disapprove the bus by no amendment rather it's a it's a motion as to whether the vm CS should submit a Community impact statement in in favor of the amendment, and if that's correct.

2351
03:58:28.590 --> 03:58:31.530
james murez: that's that's what's the motion that's what the motion says.

2352
03:58:31.590 --> 03:58:33.630
clark brown: Okay, so I would.

2353
03:58:33.960 --> 03:58:36.840
james murez: emotion that just to be very clear, the motion says.

2354
03:58:37.050 --> 03:58:46.050
james murez: The dnc Shell, submit a Community impact statement in support of Council file 14 1057 dash s nine.

2355
03:58:46.320 --> 03:58:46.680
Right.

2356
03:58:47.910 --> 03:58:49.140
clark brown: And my question is.

2357
03:58:50.340 --> 03:58:56.040
clark brown: Does the Community impact statement to say that we support the amendment, where does it give reasons and.

2358
03:58:56.610 --> 03:59:02.370
james murez: that's all it is that's all it's going to say is we're supporting we're supporting this Council file.

2359
03:59:02.700 --> 03:59:03.870
james murez: period, thank you.

2360
03:59:05.490 --> 03:59:05.880
clark brown: Thank you.

2361
03:59:06.270 --> 03:59:06.780
Okay.

2362
03:59:07.890 --> 03:59:10.260
james murez: I don't see any other hands, can we take a vote.

2363
03:59:15.960 --> 03:59:16.530
james murez: Okay.

2364
03:59:17.580 --> 03:59:19.590
james murez: So that you have your hand up I knew I could get.

2365
03:59:19.590 --> 03:59:26.100
soledad ursua: Something I just know, I just wanted to know i'm it could you just explain the amendment to the.

2366
03:59:27.720 --> 03:59:29.070
soledad ursua: is easy to just explain.

2367
03:59:29.280 --> 03:59:30.420
james murez: This is it right here.

2368
03:59:32.070 --> 03:59:33.330
james murez: on the screen for a while.

2369
03:59:41.400 --> 03:59:43.830
soledad ursua: So basically your permit that's The only difference.

2370
03:59:49.290 --> 03:59:54.420
james murez: The link is in the agenda, maybe you bring it up and the rest of us will vote will come back around to you how's that sound.

2371
03:59:57.690 --> 03:59:59.610
james murez: So i'm going to go ahead and vote yes on this.

2372
04:00:02.970 --> 04:00:03.570
james murez: daffodil.

2373
04:00:04.170 --> 04:00:04.800
Yes.

2374
04:00:05.820 --> 04:00:06.360
james murez: alyssa.

2375
04:00:08.130 --> 04:00:08.460
yeah.

2376
04:00:10.290 --> 04:00:11.790
james murez: i'm a leak.

2377
04:00:13.350 --> 04:00:13.800
Alix: Yes.

2378
04:00:14.850 --> 04:00:15.330
james murez: vicki.

2379
04:00:15.720 --> 04:00:16.200
Yes.

2380
04:00:17.460 --> 04:00:17.940
james murez: or no.

2381
04:00:18.270 --> 04:00:18.810
Yes.

2382
04:00:20.340 --> 04:00:20.910
Bruno Hernandez: NICO.

2383
04:00:22.140 --> 04:00:22.620
Nico Ruderman: Yes.

2384
04:00:23.880 --> 04:00:25.800
james murez: James rob yes.

2385
04:00:27.120 --> 04:00:27.720
james murez: Stan.

2386
04:00:28.590 --> 04:00:29.130
Yes.

2387
04:00:30.180 --> 04:00:30.810
james murez: Jason.

2388
04:00:33.750 --> 04:00:34.350
james murez: Jason.

2389
04:00:38.250 --> 04:00:38.790
james murez: Le.

2390
04:00:43.200 --> 04:00:44.910
james murez: Le are you there, yes.

2391
04:00:46.470 --> 04:00:46.890
james murez: hi.

2392
04:00:47.400 --> 04:00:48.090
Yes.

2393
04:00:49.260 --> 04:00:49.770
james murez: Mike.

2394
04:00:50.730 --> 04:00:51.120
No.

2395
04:00:54.480 --> 04:00:54.990
soledad ursua: Yes.

2396
04:00:56.010 --> 04:00:56.700
james murez: cj.

2397
04:00:57.030 --> 04:00:57.660
Yes.

2398
04:00:59.040 --> 04:00:59.700
james murez: Elizabeth.

2399
04:01:00.390 --> 04:01:01.050
Yes.

2400
04:01:02.130 --> 04:01:02.610
james murez: Robert.

2401
04:01:03.030 --> 04:01:05.370
james murez: Yes, and Clark.

2402
04:01:05.520 --> 04:01:09.510
Andrea Boccaletti: Yes, Jim Jim I don't know why you keep taking me out of the meeting.

2403
04:01:09.870 --> 04:01:11.010
james murez: Because I got a.

2404
04:01:11.130 --> 04:01:13.260
james murez: text message that said you were leaving.

2405
04:01:13.290 --> 04:01:14.670
Andrea Boccaletti: i'm sorry from who.

2406
04:01:15.210 --> 04:01:18.810
james murez: I thought it was sorry something about your family.

2407
04:01:19.050 --> 04:01:21.030
Andrea Boccaletti: To I never, never left and.

2408
04:01:21.090 --> 04:01:23.700
james murez: Sorry sorry sorry sorry your back end don't worry.

2409
04:01:24.060 --> 04:01:24.810
Andrea Boccaletti: About yes.

2410
04:01:25.140 --> 04:01:26.430
robertthibodeau: Okay, that was Sema.

2411
04:01:27.810 --> 04:01:36.270
james murez: Oh, is that was that seamless message, she sent it to like it, whoever was it send it send it to like 10 people, and I would just try and to cooperate.

2412
04:01:37.890 --> 04:01:40.080
james murez: And you voted yes okay great.

2413
04:01:41.100 --> 04:01:41.880
james murez: The motion carries.

2414
04:01:44.100 --> 04:01:47.490
james murez: Ivan are you back so that you have your hand up is that.

2415
04:01:49.230 --> 04:01:49.560
OK.

2416
04:01:50.670 --> 04:01:52.140
james murez: um i've been are you back.

2417
04:01:55.140 --> 04:02:00.090
james murez: Well let's keep going i've been we need you to come back soon i'm.

2418
04:02:00.180 --> 04:02:01.470
soledad ursua: Going back to 29.

2419
04:02:03.150 --> 04:02:03.630
james murez: Sorry.

2420
04:02:04.350 --> 04:02:05.880
soledad ursua: Are we going back 29 now.

2421
04:02:06.000 --> 04:02:17.070
james murez: While we were waiting for Ivan to come up with an answer, but he seems to have disappeared, I would like to go back to 29, but we have some concern, whether or not we're actually required to hear the 16th.

2422
04:02:17.550 --> 04:02:18.870
CJ Cole: Okay, I just.

2423
04:02:19.200 --> 04:02:22.620
CJ Cole: I just found it in the bylaws I don't know why i've been hasn't.

2424
04:02:22.680 --> 04:02:23.430
james murez: Okay, great what's.

2425
04:02:23.460 --> 04:02:36.180
CJ Cole: very dry well I just emailed it to him, but it basically is six, you have to have 60 signatures, and you have to have it on the agenda within 60 days.

2426
04:02:37.140 --> 04:02:41.310
melissadiner: Okay Okay, so that would be in it's at your discretion gym.

2427
04:02:41.580 --> 04:02:44.100
Daffodil Tyminski: Right those requirements have been met, this is daffodil.

2428
04:02:44.310 --> 04:02:46.590
CJ Cole: yeah that's me was in.

2429
04:02:47.340 --> 04:02:49.830
CJ Cole: other words our next meeting with.

2430
04:02:49.980 --> 04:02:51.960
CJ Cole: will be within 60.

2431
04:02:51.960 --> 04:02:54.750
melissadiner: days I understand I don't know if that's true was.

2432
04:02:55.770 --> 04:02:56.700
melissadiner: Number 13.

2433
04:02:56.730 --> 04:02:57.180
Alix: toward you.

2434
04:02:57.390 --> 04:03:03.060
Alix: Know i'd like to see the petition and the signatures on supporting documentation today.

2435
04:03:03.090 --> 04:03:11.550
james murez: So i'm out just a moment just a moment daffodil you you receive the signatures, I believe, yes, Sir okay.

2436
04:03:12.780 --> 04:03:16.530
james murez: When did you receive love, do you have a date on the email that read that you they came in on.

2437
04:03:17.250 --> 04:03:22.680
melissadiner: I have the email, it was just forward to me, she received it on December 13.

2438
04:03:23.400 --> 04:03:28.290
james murez: OK, so the so the so we have 60 days from the 13th so that would be.

2439
04:03:29.580 --> 04:03:30.150
james murez: 13.

2440
04:03:30.420 --> 04:03:37.650
james murez: Know i'm a leaks is asked and so has allie asked for a copy of that can you forward that to both of them.

2441
04:03:39.540 --> 04:03:41.250
Daffodil Tyminski: Can in children redacted.

2442
04:03:42.270 --> 04:03:46.020
Daffodil Tyminski: Right like we, we need to make it to make it public.

2443
04:03:47.250 --> 04:03:49.770
Daffodil Tyminski: No, you don't have to redact the names and phone numbers.

2444
04:03:49.830 --> 04:03:51.570
Daffodil Tyminski: But I certainly can get them to them.

2445
04:03:52.710 --> 04:03:57.300
james murez: Well, if you send it to me, I can quickly redact it, but that doesn't mean we can continue the meeting.

2446
04:03:58.110 --> 04:03:58.410
Ivan: Okay.

2447
04:03:58.590 --> 04:04:02.250
Daffodil Tyminski: Jim well there's no need, I mean this, this is a red herring there's.

2448
04:04:04.920 --> 04:04:06.540
CJ Cole: motion on the floor.

2449
04:04:06.780 --> 04:04:07.980
Ivan: hold on hold on just a.

2450
04:04:07.980 --> 04:04:10.890
james murez: Second Ivan What did you want to say.

2451
04:04:11.310 --> 04:04:19.470
Ivan: Okay i've been poring through the bylaws and standing rules, I can't find the language about petitions I don't know what happened.

2452
04:04:19.830 --> 04:04:20.280
email.

2453
04:04:21.870 --> 04:04:24.090
Ivan: hang on Let me finish, please.

2454
04:04:25.680 --> 04:04:36.690
Ivan: there's a lot of IFS here and my suggestion to you is to postpone this and told her next meeting, which will give us a chance to find the right button which.

2455
04:04:37.170 --> 04:04:38.880
Ivan: OK thanks OK.

2456
04:04:39.360 --> 04:04:41.160
CJ Cole: Nice very Ocean is.

2457
04:04:41.400 --> 04:04:56.430
Ivan: All right, and then cj The other thing is i've been getting calls some time you know, been looking at this, I got half a dozen called people want to go home so you're gonna have problems here, please postpone it get a.

2458
04:04:56.460 --> 04:04:58.710
Ivan: motion to postpone till the next meeting.

2459
04:05:00.660 --> 04:05:01.710
james robb: motion on the floor.

2460
04:05:02.520 --> 04:05:03.570
CJ Cole: motion on the floor.

2461
04:05:04.890 --> 04:05:08.040
james murez: timeout let me, let me deal with this place Ivan.

2462
04:05:08.490 --> 04:05:14.310
james murez: yeah if you were listening earlier Jim Ross made a motion to postpone this.

2463
04:05:14.670 --> 04:05:16.830
james murez: To continue to continue it to the.

2464
04:05:17.190 --> 04:05:18.060
Ivan: Strong motion.

2465
04:05:18.240 --> 04:05:18.690
Ivan: Okay.

2466
04:05:18.900 --> 04:05:23.520
Ivan: So should be a motion to postpone until the board meeting.

2467
04:05:23.880 --> 04:05:24.990
james murez: Okay, so.

2468
04:05:25.350 --> 04:05:27.030
CJ Cole: somebody like to make, I will.

2469
04:05:28.020 --> 04:05:29.220
james robb: I will make good.

2470
04:05:29.520 --> 04:05:30.480
james robb: See you make it.

2471
04:05:31.230 --> 04:05:34.230
CJ Cole: I made the original one i'll make this one.

2472
04:05:35.880 --> 04:05:40.050
james murez: hive and let me ask you one more question i'm.

2473
04:05:43.620 --> 04:05:48.930
james murez: Actually, a couple more questions I believe it's on page 14 of the bylaws.

2474
04:05:49.500 --> 04:05:50.580
Ivan: All right, let me go look.

2475
04:05:50.880 --> 04:05:52.560
james murez: I think that's where cj found it.

2476
04:05:52.860 --> 04:05:54.690
CJ Cole: yeah I copy dryas.

2477
04:05:54.720 --> 04:05:55.770
Ivan: yeah hang on.

2478
04:05:56.010 --> 04:05:56.700
james murez: that's okay.

2479
04:05:57.120 --> 04:05:57.630
Ivan: hang on.

2480
04:05:57.720 --> 04:06:00.660
Ivan: 14 finances reconsideration.

2481
04:06:00.660 --> 04:06:01.440
notification.

2482
04:06:02.880 --> 04:06:03.600
CJ Cole: letting us.

2483
04:06:03.630 --> 04:06:06.300
Ivan: Know there's nothing here about.

2484
04:06:08.010 --> 04:06:08.760
Ivan: Petitions.

2485
04:06:10.650 --> 04:06:11.610
CJ Cole: agendas.

2486
04:06:13.110 --> 04:06:14.070
Ivan: Under agendas.

2487
04:06:14.400 --> 04:06:15.360
Ivan: Even for coming.

2488
04:06:15.540 --> 04:06:27.810
Ivan: hang on can matter be placed on the agenda affection agenda request is not included by the administrative committee, the President and the stakeholder in a calming matters to why it was not.

2489
04:06:28.290 --> 04:06:33.600
Ivan: This is all complex here you're not gonna have time you're going to be spending a whole rest of the.

2490
04:06:33.600 --> 04:06:34.050
Ivan: Meeting.

2491
04:06:34.350 --> 04:06:36.720
CJ Cole: Dealing with procedure is copy.

2492
04:06:38.220 --> 04:06:40.710
Ivan: One phone it for a month.

2493
04:06:41.340 --> 04:06:46.950
james murez: Ivan I want to understand something do I have the authority to just continue this meeting with this item.

2494
04:06:47.130 --> 04:06:48.330
Ivan: You can do.

2495
04:06:48.660 --> 04:06:54.960
Ivan: Contract can find in the bylaws anything that would override that yes, it's your call.

2496
04:06:55.380 --> 04:06:58.890
james murez: Okay, then we're gonna have we're gonna hear it, because there's been a lot of people waiting.

2497
04:06:59.220 --> 04:07:00.690
i'm getting a lot of messages.

2498
04:07:01.710 --> 04:07:01.890
Alix: We.

2499
04:07:03.630 --> 04:07:03.900
Can we.

2500
04:07:05.610 --> 04:07:06.690
james murez: Know we're not gonna.

2501
04:07:09.570 --> 04:07:11.640
melissadiner: Because he can override that.

2502
04:07:11.760 --> 04:07:12.600
Ivan: that's right.

2503
04:07:14.250 --> 04:07:16.230
james murez: Let me just make sure I want to give.

2504
04:07:17.970 --> 04:07:18.690
CJ Cole: A motion.

2505
04:07:21.870 --> 04:07:22.050
Alix: I.

2506
04:07:24.750 --> 04:07:25.320
Alix: will not.

2507
04:07:29.130 --> 04:07:32.610
james murez: Ivan I want to ask a question of you, I just muted everybody.

2508
04:07:33.300 --> 04:07:43.710
james murez: I want to ask a question of you Ivan do I have the authority to override a motion to postpone to the next meeting, could you answer that place.

2509
04:07:46.080 --> 04:07:47.790
james murez: I wonder if I have to now unmute.

2510
04:07:50.220 --> 04:07:51.060
melissadiner: yeah yeah.

2511
04:07:53.250 --> 04:07:56.340
james murez: i've been Where are you okay i've been go ahead.

2512
04:07:59.310 --> 04:08:00.090
Nico Ruderman: is still muted.

2513
04:08:00.960 --> 04:08:03.330
james murez: yeah I don't know why you how did you get a muted.

2514
04:08:04.920 --> 04:08:05.310
Nico Ruderman: unmuted.

2515
04:08:06.120 --> 04:08:07.170
james murez: yeah that's what I would think.

2516
04:08:07.170 --> 04:08:09.810
james murez: i've been unmute yourself and answer my question, please.

2517
04:08:10.470 --> 04:08:12.120
Alley Bean: Can we get Freddie please to.

2518
04:08:12.270 --> 04:08:14.160
Alley Bean: Vote on this, because he did.

2519
04:08:14.970 --> 04:08:16.110
james murez: Freddie left the meeting at.

2520
04:08:16.110 --> 04:08:18.960
Alley Bean: Nine there was conflict of interest and he was right.

2521
04:08:19.350 --> 04:08:20.940
Alley Bean: And I think it'd be outrageous to.

2522
04:08:20.940 --> 04:08:22.650
Alley Bean: override emotion.

2523
04:08:22.860 --> 04:08:26.100
james murez: There was a conflict of interest of two people on the board.

2524
04:08:26.430 --> 04:08:28.770
Alley Bean: Well, are you going to accuse you recuse yourself.

2525
04:08:28.890 --> 04:08:29.700
james murez: it's not me.

2526
04:08:30.060 --> 04:08:31.110
Alley Bean: you're one of them.

2527
04:08:31.410 --> 04:08:31.980
Alix: I don't know.

2528
04:08:32.760 --> 04:08:34.860
Alley Bean: What about tiptoe I mean, Mr.

2529
04:08:35.280 --> 04:08:36.240
Alix: very debatable.

2530
04:08:38.610 --> 04:08:40.650
Alley Bean: I just think this is not right.

2531
04:08:41.070 --> 04:08:43.140
james murez: Okay, but i'm waiting for Ivan and he's not.

2532
04:08:43.140 --> 04:08:43.590
Answering.

2533
04:08:44.880 --> 04:08:47.910
Daffodil Tyminski: conflict of interest was with the citizen, preserving Venice.

2534
04:08:47.910 --> 04:08:49.230
robertthibodeau: folks yeah.

2535
04:08:49.410 --> 04:08:51.450
robertthibodeau: don't don't don't use my name, please.

2536
04:08:51.720 --> 04:08:53.010
robertthibodeau: yeah yeah just keep.

2537
04:08:54.060 --> 04:08:55.080
robertthibodeau: Keep it to yourself.

2538
04:08:55.230 --> 04:09:00.390
james murez: Could everybody, please stop for a minute I have, I asked you a procedural question and you have an answer.

2539
04:09:00.480 --> 04:09:03.450
Ivan: Okay, go go up because people calling me i'm trying to deal with.

2540
04:09:03.450 --> 04:09:07.650
james murez: Everything ready you're here to my questions, not to answer yes.

2541
04:09:08.100 --> 04:09:09.480
Ivan: Stan what i'm saying.

2542
04:09:09.630 --> 04:09:13.560
james murez: If I need to get a parliamentarian that will answer my questions i'll do that.

2543
04:09:13.800 --> 04:09:14.370
james murez: Okay.

2544
04:09:15.150 --> 04:09:30.300
james murez: that's answering the other phone calls Thank you okay Well, my question was, and I will repeat myself for the third time do I have the authority to not take the motion to postpone and to just go ahead and hear this.

2545
04:09:30.600 --> 04:09:34.560
Ivan: Yes, you, you can not accept the emotion.

2546
04:09:35.370 --> 04:09:38.520
james murez: Okay, so we're going to hear this tonight folks.

2547
04:09:38.940 --> 04:09:45.240
james murez: If people need to recuse because they have a conflict of interest, they should go ahead and do so now.

2548
04:09:45.780 --> 04:09:59.400
james murez: I would be happy to entertain anybody's hands or anybody statements that said they would like to recuse themselves, and I believe there are two people that were identified by the city attorney's office that need to recuse themselves.

2549
04:09:59.430 --> 04:10:02.550
james murez: Or at least have a conflict of interest issue.

2550
04:10:03.390 --> 04:10:13.950
Alix: him i'm going to put something out there, that I have emails from Jason T about this very good and we can go into all the conflicts of interest surrounding that on my committee and this board.

2551
04:10:14.250 --> 04:10:27.660
Alix: There is no stakeholder petition, there is no background document on this and I would argue that you overriding cj motion is a huge conflict of interest, I urge you, I urge you, strongly to continue this.

2552
04:10:27.990 --> 04:10:34.410
Alix: or I would gather there will be a huge ethics investigation into all of this, that will be very unpleasant for the board.

2553
04:10:36.060 --> 04:10:36.960
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm ELISE.

2554
04:10:37.320 --> 04:10:40.650
Daffodil Tyminski: Honestly you're living in an alternate reality fantasy land.

2555
04:10:41.250 --> 04:10:42.330
There is a collision.

2556
04:10:43.530 --> 04:10:44.250
Daffodil Tyminski: I.

2557
04:10:44.550 --> 04:10:48.870
Alix: mean why can't we bet it should have been made public daffodil like everything.

2558
04:10:48.900 --> 04:10:50.040
Daffodil Tyminski: else is emotion.

2559
04:10:50.760 --> 04:10:53.670
Alix: Where I don't see the petition with the signatures.

2560
04:10:54.450 --> 04:10:58.650
Daffodil Tyminski: You you don't have to see the signatures this came via petition.

2561
04:10:59.730 --> 04:11:01.410
Daffodil Tyminski: petition is not what goes on the.

2562
04:11:01.410 --> 04:11:05.010
Daffodil Tyminski: Agenda is the emotion that goes on the agenda and it gets to.

2563
04:11:05.010 --> 04:11:05.820
Daffodil Tyminski: The agenda.

2564
04:11:08.460 --> 04:11:08.760
james murez: Wait.

2565
04:11:09.570 --> 04:11:14.550
james murez: I was speaking daffodil has the floor let her speak, please.

2566
04:11:15.000 --> 04:11:26.850
Daffodil Tyminski: And ELISE apologies for your lack of understanding of how this works, but the petition is the vehicle by which it gets on the agenda, but what gets on the agenda is the emotion.

2567
04:11:28.590 --> 04:11:37.050
Daffodil Tyminski: Right, so the petition and the signatures is how it gets on there and, by the way, the reason this got on there is because Lou Pack has.

2568
04:11:37.470 --> 04:11:50.490
Daffodil Tyminski: consistently and systemically failed to deal with this issue and that's between you and your stakeholders in your failure to address their concerns, but the the your you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what a petition is.

2569
04:11:50.880 --> 04:12:01.320
Daffodil Tyminski: And how it functions in this process, so we had a petition, we had signatures it went to add calm we looked at it and, as a result, the motion got agenda.

2570
04:12:01.890 --> 04:12:09.300
Daffodil Tyminski: That is what is before the board tonight, whatever else you're talking about which is like fantasyland alternate reality I don't know what it is.

2571
04:12:10.590 --> 04:12:12.330
Daffodil Tyminski: Is not before us tonight.

2572
04:12:12.660 --> 04:12:14.070
Daffodil Tyminski: We are dealing with item.

2573
04:12:14.100 --> 04:12:16.380
Daffodil Tyminski: 29 which is emotion before the board.

2574
04:12:16.830 --> 04:12:17.250
Okay.

2575
04:12:18.930 --> 04:12:19.890
james murez: Having said that.

2576
04:12:20.100 --> 04:12:20.520
Alix: Please don't.

2577
04:12:21.810 --> 04:12:23.400
james murez: See the signatures oh wait.

2578
04:12:23.610 --> 04:12:24.270
Alix: you're on that.

2579
04:12:24.390 --> 04:12:33.120
james murez: A leak, you need you need to stop interrupting i'm going to have to mute you I don't want to do that, we have an order that we have to follow.

2580
04:12:33.450 --> 04:12:42.540
james murez: Somebody has the floor, I will call on the person when we want to go forward at this point, we do not have a motion on the floor, we can discuss the motion after it's on the floor.

2581
04:12:43.710 --> 04:12:48.270
james murez: daffodil, would you please read the motion into the record.

2582
04:12:54.930 --> 04:12:55.530
james murez: Hello death.

2583
04:12:55.560 --> 04:13:00.120
Daffodil Tyminski: Where you know i'm here where i'm sorry i'm just trying to zoom in a little bit to see the fine print.

2584
04:13:00.510 --> 04:13:13.080
Daffodil Tyminski: Whereas commercial carter's and Venice have over many decades been subject to put spot zoning and quote end or otherwise have been resolved without adequate notice and outreach to the property owners and stakeholders.

2585
04:13:13.740 --> 04:13:22.140
Daffodil Tyminski: Whereas the Venice land use plan policy one B two states quote the design of mixed use development is intended to.

2586
04:13:22.140 --> 04:13:23.010
Daffodil Tyminski: help mitigate.

2587
04:13:23.130 --> 04:13:23.730
The impact.

2588
04:13:25.230 --> 04:13:26.370
Ivan: You guys mute.

2589
04:13:26.760 --> 04:13:28.020
Daffodil Tyminski: Your phones, please.

2590
04:13:32.370 --> 04:13:32.850
james murez: Go ahead.

2591
04:13:33.240 --> 04:13:44.010
Daffodil Tyminski: and help mitigate the impact of the traffic generated by the development on coastal access roads and reduce parking demands by reducing the need for automobile used by residents and encouraging pedestrian activity.

2592
04:13:45.000 --> 04:13:52.200
Daffodil Tyminski: Whereas the city planning department and coastal Commission are in the process of updating the LCP and Venice Community plan.

2593
04:13:52.920 --> 04:14:05.460
Daffodil Tyminski: Therefore, the Venice the dnc Shell recommend to the city planning department and the California coastal Commission that the properties per the list below are along commercial characters.

2594
04:14:05.520 --> 04:14:06.330
Daffodil Tyminski: in Venice.

2595
04:14:06.600 --> 04:14:16.650
Daffodil Tyminski: Be rezoned to commercial use as part of the LCP and the Community plan update in order to one create consistency with.

2596
04:14:17.430 --> 04:14:24.150
Daffodil Tyminski: The adjacent and neighboring properties to to remedy the past spot zoning of certain commercial carter's of Venice.

2597
04:14:24.570 --> 04:14:36.810
Daffodil Tyminski: And three that the reason properties be in compliance with all land use requirements set forth in the applicable Los Angeles zoning code, including but not limited to any uses, which may require conditional use permit.

2598
04:14:37.590 --> 04:14:45.360
Daffodil Tyminski: properties, to be included in the rezoning back to commercial use colon and Jim you're gonna have to scroll down a little bit, so I can read this.

2599
04:14:47.220 --> 04:14:47.850
Daffodil Tyminski: Along with.

2600
04:14:48.840 --> 04:14:49.500
james murez: color is.

2601
04:14:51.090 --> 04:15:03.180
Daffodil Tyminski: 100 fastest way to 412-507-1901 2015 oceanfront walk three or five 373 or four seven you know there's more on here.

2602
04:15:04.050 --> 04:15:05.040
james murez: No that's all.

2603
04:15:06.150 --> 04:15:07.230
james murez: that's all there is there.

2604
04:15:08.940 --> 04:15:11.070
james murez: Was there was there some other part of rose avenue.

2605
04:15:11.580 --> 04:15:16.200
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah I mean there was, I mean it was basically the list of properties that have been submitted.

2606
04:15:21.510 --> 04:15:23.370
james murez: I believe that this is the full list.

2607
04:15:24.360 --> 04:15:27.990
Daffodil Tyminski: Did you have a limit on the number of words that can go on your agenda requests.

2608
04:15:28.020 --> 04:15:28.380
nope.

2609
04:15:30.600 --> 04:15:33.270
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, well, I assume that it's the full.

2610
04:15:33.270 --> 04:15:37.530
james murez: motion we can go back and look at that, but I believe that this is everything there, there were.

2611
04:15:45.480 --> 04:15:50.370
james murez: i'm not sure, but I believe that mean look at.

2612
04:15:52.590 --> 04:15:59.280
james murez: I know I got an email about this, let me stop sharing for a second and look in my email and see if there's.

2613
04:16:01.590 --> 04:16:07.380
Daffodil Tyminski: Anything more actually i'm looking at the submission originally had comes in the seems to be the complete list.

2614
04:16:08.220 --> 04:16:12.390
Daffodil Tyminski: That way, it is this seems to be the complete list.

2615
04:16:12.600 --> 04:16:14.010
james murez: yeah that's what I thought, but.

2616
04:16:14.340 --> 04:16:18.600
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah it just the way it was laid out it looked like it was happening, but it's not.

2617
04:16:18.780 --> 04:16:20.070
james murez: No it's I don't think so.

2618
04:16:22.740 --> 04:16:23.310
james murez: um.

2619
04:16:24.360 --> 04:16:25.770
Daffodil Tyminski: Do we have a second on the middle.

2620
04:16:25.800 --> 04:16:28.680
james murez: We need a second on the motion does anybody want a second, the motion.

2621
04:16:29.580 --> 04:16:30.750
vickihalliday: i'm vicki.

2622
04:16:32.580 --> 04:16:34.620
james murez: Okay hold on, let me go back to screen share.

2623
04:16:36.030 --> 04:16:36.780
or here.

2624
04:16:38.790 --> 04:16:48.600
click screen share Okay, so the maker was daffodil The second was the key.

2625
04:16:49.620 --> 04:17:06.660
james murez: And now we can go to any board discussion to clarify the item that was read as the motion we're not going to discuss the merits of it at this point, we only want to ask if anybody on the committee.

2626
04:17:07.200 --> 04:17:27.360
james murez: does not understand the motion that was read and I see one hand that's up please stay on topic two hands that are up please stay on topic we're only answering questions about the motion that was stated, not about the merits elite go ahead, please.

2627
04:17:28.020 --> 04:17:31.950
Alix: I just need to understand something for accuracy purposes, Jim.

2628
04:17:32.070 --> 04:17:32.520
james murez: Thank you so.

2629
04:17:33.060 --> 04:17:43.080
Alix: daffodil mentioned that this was submitted as a stakeholder petition to add calm and it was agenda is an outcome as a stakeholder petition.

2630
04:17:43.350 --> 04:17:51.360
Alix: which it was not signatures I think daffodil just said in this meeting were received December 13 or December 12 was when the email came in.

2631
04:17:51.600 --> 04:18:04.380
Alix: And the Ad COM meeting I believe was on the 13th not enough time to put this on as a petition, so there seems to be some discrepancy here and I just wanted that noted for the record, and perhaps someone can clarify, thank you.

2632
04:18:06.270 --> 04:18:09.300
james murez: Mike you have a question about the motion.

2633
04:18:09.900 --> 04:18:11.310
Mike Bravo: No, not about the motion.

2634
04:18:11.340 --> 04:18:12.720
Mike Bravo: that's when I exercise I.

2635
04:18:12.840 --> 04:18:14.070
james murez: will have to hold on to it.

2636
04:18:14.760 --> 04:18:18.900
james murez: No Elizabeth you have a question about the motion.

2637
04:18:22.320 --> 04:18:24.300
james murez: You know, even if your hand is up you're muted.

2638
04:18:24.510 --> 04:18:25.680
Alley Bean: you're muted Elizabeth.

2639
04:18:26.040 --> 04:18:29.580
Elizabeth Clay: yeah sorry mine goes to who can vote on this motion.

2640
04:18:29.940 --> 04:18:33.780
james murez: Okay we'll get back to that let's take public comment, please.

2641
04:18:35.490 --> 04:18:36.750
james murez: I see no other hands.

2642
04:18:39.240 --> 04:18:41.550
james murez: daffodil can you deal with public comment.

2643
04:18:42.120 --> 04:18:42.990
sure.

2644
04:18:45.000 --> 04:18:49.320
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm Jason Tom go ahead and, by the way, this is the school.

2645
04:18:49.320 --> 04:18:53.040
james murez: committee with yeah how many how many people have their hands up and who's.

2646
04:18:53.040 --> 04:18:56.850
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm sorry we have Jason Tom goat puppet Mike mchale Jensen.

2647
04:18:56.850 --> 04:19:11.610
Daffodil Tyminski: matt Shaw brick swinger Nick Anson a cello Helen fallon Robin were to sell Margaret malloy marissa Velasco J O rg least redmond and very Castle a and with Barry Castlereagh we will close public comment Okay, thank you.

2648
04:19:13.500 --> 04:19:13.950
jason tong: Hello.

2649
04:19:14.220 --> 04:19:20.490
Daffodil Tyminski: I believe Jason is actually the person that initiated this as a stakeholder petition.

2650
04:19:21.990 --> 04:19:23.730
jason tong: Yes, i'm either can anyone hear me.

2651
04:19:24.480 --> 04:19:25.320
james murez: Yes, go ahead.

2652
04:19:25.860 --> 04:19:38.070
jason tong: All right, great Thank you I know this is a contentious issue and there you know people kind of identify a few individuals as a reason for trying to shoot this down.

2653
04:19:38.550 --> 04:19:43.170
jason tong: What they don't realize is what this was done decades ago, this was done in.

2654
04:19:43.770 --> 04:19:49.200
jason tong: 10 days and only posted in three places downtown without any outreach to the neighborhood and while.

2655
04:19:49.530 --> 04:20:01.410
jason tong: These people are disliking the Community we're talking about dozens and dozens of other people are paying the sacrifice for that, and you ask yourself, does the ends justify the means and is that the type of person, you are.

2656
04:20:02.430 --> 04:20:11.310
jason tong: Does it just matter to you how things get done and the other people sacrifices, but they try to accomplish in life is just taken away from them and short time.

2657
04:20:11.700 --> 04:20:23.730
jason tong: And being we get lumped into that, as I know, okay bye bye you, because this is a big thing for us to fix and right now, I see a lot of people trying to say that Oh, these two people here let's just go against us.

2658
04:20:26.880 --> 04:20:28.350
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks so much Jason.

2659
04:20:29.700 --> 04:20:32.010
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm go the puppet Christmas.

2660
04:20:33.840 --> 04:20:34.680
Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead.

2661
04:20:41.070 --> 04:20:43.710
Daffodil Tyminski: Sorry, good puppet I allowed you to talk ahead.

2662
04:20:44.700 --> 04:20:51.000
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: Yes, first a point of order there's another hand raised for calling user one James.

2663
04:20:52.200 --> 04:21:16.290
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: Thank you for that no, thank you so yes, what do we have here we have drama here innuendo conspiracy, but most of all, what we have is concealment who are the signatures, what are the documents, yes Alex is right, we want to see who's signing these things.

2664
04:21:16.920 --> 04:21:18.300
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: We want to know who these.

2665
04:21:18.330 --> 04:21:29.520
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: mystery people are and why they're bringing this evil to us at 1014 Pacific standard time which for some of us it's already.

2666
04:21:31.980 --> 04:21:46.350
Goat puppet X-mas N Word?: The next goddamn day and I have booze that I need to drink packages doral and gift cards to take and give out the homeless criminals don't puppet votes, no i'm not.

2667
04:21:48.030 --> 04:21:52.140
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, to kill Jensen go ahead.

2668
04:22:00.090 --> 04:22:00.570
Daffodil Tyminski: Sorry.

2669
04:22:03.030 --> 04:22:04.140
Daffodil Tyminski: hello, everyone can.

2670
04:22:04.620 --> 04:22:05.820
Daffodil Tyminski: you hear me yes.

2671
04:22:06.570 --> 04:22:10.110
Michael Jensen: Okay, so thanks for sticking around for this.

2672
04:22:11.220 --> 04:22:20.460
Michael Jensen: I just want to give some background in terms of the procedural issues here because I think that seems to be what so contentious people are pretending that this came out of nowhere.

2673
04:22:21.030 --> 04:22:32.610
Michael Jensen: there's been every opportunity for this to go to Lou peck for about two years it hasn't I most recently tried to submit this through another agenda request in August.

2674
04:22:33.390 --> 04:22:51.030
Michael Jensen: It was denied, I submitted a lengthy background from legal research that I did on zoning that occurred in this area and really I hope you guys read at least some of it, because I think it really justifies why this warm this motion is warranted.

2675
04:22:52.170 --> 04:23:05.580
Michael Jensen: And I wish that Jason had longer to really speak, because his story is really gut wrenching and if you heard about his family buying this property in the 60s and basically getting screwed by the city and then not fixing it, it would really move you.

2676
04:23:06.960 --> 04:23:07.320
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you.

2677
04:23:10.410 --> 04:23:12.750
Daffodil Tyminski: matt shop go ahead.

2678
04:23:14.790 --> 04:23:19.680
matthewshaw: Thank you and good evening, Mr President and Vice President and happy holidays, to address the board.

2679
04:23:19.980 --> 04:23:25.680
matthewshaw: As a passport Member, I know how big of a commitment, it is, and certainly, especially on a night like this, when we're heading into the holidays.

2680
04:23:25.980 --> 04:23:33.540
matthewshaw: And we all have lots of things to do so, I appreciate all of your hard work and dedication, especially those who are brave enough to serve multiple terms.

2681
04:23:34.050 --> 04:23:42.180
matthewshaw: Tonight I am here to ask that you support the motion to undo the spots owning that was done in 1989 and return these areas to the original zoning.

2682
04:23:42.510 --> 04:23:53.640
matthewshaw: By voting yes and supported by them 2029 as some of you may know, we are currently unable to live in our home at the corner of third and rose because of the noise debris and other dangerous activity in the encampments.

2683
04:23:54.120 --> 04:24:00.330
matthewshaw: When we ask that area be cleaned people constantly say that it's a commercial zone and it's not impacting anyone.

2684
04:24:00.960 --> 04:24:17.820
matthewshaw: it's total hypocrisy and not fair, the residents to say that it's a commercial zone for the but just 10 feet away, people are trying to live their lives in what is considered a residential zone, please vote to return this area to use more conducive to the traffic noise and active area.

2685
04:24:19.980 --> 04:24:23.610
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you i'm bricklayer go ahead.

2686
04:24:33.060 --> 04:24:35.700
Rick Swinger: rick swear can you speak yes.

2687
04:24:35.850 --> 04:24:37.140
Rick Swinger: hi can you hear me now.

2688
04:24:37.710 --> 04:24:47.100
Rick Swinger: yeah yes oh yeah i'm in property right there in the zone and I gotta tell you this and happy holidays, by the way to everybody here and thank you for your patience on this one.

2689
04:24:47.970 --> 04:24:51.810
Rick Swinger: But anyway, yeah i'm right in the middle of this zone across the street from Google and.

2690
04:24:52.470 --> 04:25:03.060
Rick Swinger: I gotta tell you it's the spot Sony was very underhanded it affects people's past owners and tenants present owners and tenants future owners intense intense this whole.

2691
04:25:03.840 --> 04:25:16.380
Rick Swinger: deal with public storage, you know, try to try to get in the 1800 stores units to do a you know rodent infestation exam I mean you know it's ridiculous of what happened we.

2692
04:25:16.710 --> 04:25:25.710
Rick Swinger: We got you know salt in our wounds here, there was a magic deal we have 1800 units across the street from us, and yet we were down zoned my tennis want.

2693
04:25:26.190 --> 04:25:36.510
Rick Swinger: To have you know, an art studio there, I want to have an art studio we like mixed use it's very popular with my tenants and everybody on the boat on the block, so please vote yes, thank you very much.

2694
04:25:38.400 --> 04:25:39.210
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you.

2695
04:25:42.000 --> 04:25:44.850
Daffodil Tyminski: Nick Anson Hello go ahead.

2696
04:25:49.170 --> 04:25:59.760
Nick Antonicello: My question is to proceed, you had a good emotion on the floor that was made by Jim Ross seconded by cj call it was never entertain.

2697
04:26:00.450 --> 04:26:09.150
Nick Antonicello: Regarding the petition I Father petition when we did the vote of no confidence and my father had to be part of the record was not redacted.

2698
04:26:09.750 --> 04:26:25.710
Nick Antonicello: I ended that in to the Secretary was made available to the entire board, so you need to look at procedure here i'm in favor of Jason tongs efforts here, but this is being sloppily and badly handle Thank you.

2699
04:26:29.400 --> 04:26:29.760
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you.

2700
04:26:31.260 --> 04:26:34.680
Daffodil Tyminski: um let's see Helen fallon go ahead.

2701
04:26:36.660 --> 04:26:43.650
Helen Fallon: I agree with Nick something stinks let's put it that way, as someone who has submitted stakeholder emotions, those are part of the record.

2702
04:26:44.130 --> 04:26:57.240
Helen Fallon: The Board members have a right to know who signed the petition, who is representing themselves as wanting and supporting this motion we don't even know how many people even signed the petition is it 60 years at 100 is a 500 what is it.

2703
04:26:57.780 --> 04:27:05.370
Helen Fallon: it's ridiculous to pretend that it's not part of the record and i'm really offended since I had to jump through plenty of hoops to get.

2704
04:27:06.000 --> 04:27:12.120
Helen Fallon: Several stakeholder petitions before the board there's been some misunderstand something incorrect.

2705
04:27:12.930 --> 04:27:21.840
Helen Fallon: representation about the history of this motion it never came before the board, because it never passed Lou pack because they didn't have a quorum to pass it.

2706
04:27:22.140 --> 04:27:39.450
Helen Fallon: There were conflicts of interest, a person failed to disclose that and the Ad calm and not took it off the agenda, so it should go back to Luke package should be there, it should be, you know, this is, this is a very underhanded way of handling alam us.

2707
04:27:40.680 --> 04:27:43.770
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks so much Helen Robin go ahead.

2708
04:27:46.740 --> 04:27:55.170
Robin Rudisill: Robert is so first of all i'm sure they're undisclosed ex parte communications that's not Okay, and also very cute where the conflicts.

2709
04:27:55.740 --> 04:28:05.250
Robin Rudisill: So with this motion you're violating your purpose and your mission in the event fiancee bylaws as there's been no outreach to the surrounding neighbors affected.

2710
04:28:05.760 --> 04:28:10.350
Robin Rudisill: And you need to identify the property owners impacted who are hiding behind Jason Tom.

2711
04:28:10.830 --> 04:28:20.070
Robin Rudisill: Just as you would for any other land use issue and that's also the only way the board members will be able to identify their conflicts of interest, including any campaign contributions.

2712
04:28:20.520 --> 04:28:33.450
Robin Rudisill: Otherwise it's non transparent and an ethics issue as conflicts are not being disclosed, I suggest you table the matter due to the conflicts issue, I suggest Jason Tom if you bring your project to the dnc individually.

2713
04:28:34.320 --> 04:28:44.130
Robin Rudisill: it's 1989 zone changes were done as part of a several years long Community planning process, obviously, to protect housing we're in an affordable housing prices and it needs to stay that way.

2714
04:28:47.070 --> 04:28:48.180
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks so much.

2715
04:28:49.980 --> 04:28:50.430
Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead.

2716
04:28:51.210 --> 04:28:58.500
Margaret Molloy: I echo what has been said about conflict of interest, who recused Hello you haven't even told us, who we used.

2717
04:28:58.980 --> 04:29:04.470
Margaret Molloy: You haven't disclosed to the petitions or so, how would we know who should recuse you haven't stayed at.

2718
04:29:04.920 --> 04:29:12.510
Margaret Molloy: Address per address what addresses are involved, how would we know who should be recused who has a conflict of interest, it is just.

2719
04:29:12.960 --> 04:29:21.990
Margaret Molloy: Like you know, this is a disaster, you should table the motion because you're violating the brown act there's no disclosure as Alex had raised to your attention.

2720
04:29:22.290 --> 04:29:34.680
Margaret Molloy: And daffodil you're despicable like you are so condescending and your whole tone and attitude like get a grip your for public defender or you know public prosecutor federal prosecutor.

2721
04:29:34.710 --> 04:29:35.250
soledad ursua: off topic.

2722
04:29:35.700 --> 04:29:46.380
Margaret Molloy: get it together and you can't vote on this, the people who have spoken in favor of it own property i've done my own research, I think, maybe one single property owner.

2723
04:29:46.860 --> 04:29:56.760
Margaret Molloy: bought property after the rezoning they cannot claim taking a rights it's just not not happening towards Francisco his buddy owns the entire block of.

2724
04:29:58.200 --> 04:30:01.200
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, Margaret Mary of Alaska go ahead.

2725
04:30:07.860 --> 04:30:09.690
Mario Velasco: hi good evening, can you hear me.

2726
04:30:10.380 --> 04:30:11.490
Mario Velasco: yeah okay great.

2727
04:30:11.670 --> 04:30:12.120
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you.

2728
04:30:12.330 --> 04:30:18.270
Mario Velasco: Yes, i'm a current tenant that's being affected by this we've tried to put it forth lupa keeps shutting us down.

2729
04:30:18.690 --> 04:30:27.510
Mario Velasco: leaks knows the situation very well, whether or not there's conflict, you know, on how the motion is being presented or not and that's something that.

2730
04:30:27.840 --> 04:30:34.350
Mario Velasco: I feel like the Committee should get an order but that just lets you know that's really affecting us as business owners.

2731
04:30:35.010 --> 04:30:40.470
Mario Velasco: The city shut us down with their lies we've met with the planning department Len Nguyen.

2732
04:30:41.250 --> 04:30:48.840
Mario Velasco: Which told us one thing and we did it the right way and then he went round and spoke with Judy from neighborhoods first that has a lot of influence.

2733
04:30:49.590 --> 04:30:56.190
Mario Velasco: You know somebody that voted for a lot of people on loop back to see that being turned into a political.

2734
04:30:56.640 --> 04:31:03.150
Mario Velasco: You know use because of Judea neighborhoods first is very disappointing and I think that also needs to be disclosed if they're going to.

2735
04:31:03.420 --> 04:31:11.790
Mario Velasco: You know, throw names out i'm not George Francisco i'm just a person trying to make a living here, and I would appreciate that we can move forward with this at some point, thank you.

2736
04:31:12.060 --> 04:31:12.660
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you.

2737
04:31:14.340 --> 04:31:17.850
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm J R G go ahead.

2738
04:31:23.100 --> 04:31:24.210
Daffodil Tyminski: You can unmute yourself.

2739
04:31:24.210 --> 04:31:25.440
JRG: Can you hear me.

2740
04:31:26.040 --> 04:31:32.700
JRG: Yes, yes, this is Judy Goldman from keep neighborhoods first so i'm going to respond to that comment.

2741
04:31:33.210 --> 04:31:43.230
JRG: i'm going to tell you that the properties, the majority of them on rose avenue or rent stabilized they're all owned by Jason teague except for a few of them.

2742
04:31:43.470 --> 04:31:53.250
JRG: And they've been used as illegal short term Rentals being operated by George Francisco, so I would urge you all to consider that, but the bigger picture here.

2743
04:31:53.610 --> 04:32:03.690
JRG: Are the conflicts of interest in the improprieties and the incredible disrespect in this meeting shame on you, the way you talk to people.

2744
04:32:04.200 --> 04:32:09.060
JRG: All of you, not all of you, but you know who you are it's an embarrassment.

2745
04:32:09.660 --> 04:32:26.640
JRG: it's really an embarrassment and i've lived in Venice for over 50 years and in 1989 I remember when the Community plans on changes were made, and it was done by a Community group, so I would urge you all to look into the history, so you know the facts, so that you vote.

2746
04:32:28.290 --> 04:32:30.690
Daffodil Tyminski: hey so much Lisa vitamin go ahead.

2747
04:32:36.060 --> 04:32:40.140
lisaredmond: pretty much what everyone else has already said, I just an unbelievable.

2748
04:32:41.400 --> 04:32:46.080
lisaredmond: aghast at all the conflicts of interest that aren't being disclosed that.

2749
04:32:47.100 --> 04:33:02.370
lisaredmond: I read the agendas ahead of the meeting I was totally surprised that the petition the stakeholder petition was not part of the supporting documents materials there always are always today's note should be no different.

2750
04:33:03.690 --> 04:33:12.600
lisaredmond: Even though I am probably against this I going to stay that sometimes the rules are always changed for some and not others and.

2751
04:33:13.290 --> 04:33:19.560
lisaredmond: You know, somehow, even though i'm against it, it wasn't right the Jason wasn't allowed to come and present his petition.

2752
04:33:20.010 --> 04:33:34.440
lisaredmond: and his motion, much like Helen was earlier he just got to slip in, as you know, a public comment or so i've never liked the disparity there and it was wrong to shut down Mike bravo when he was trying to make a point of record.

2753
04:33:34.740 --> 04:33:38.160
lisaredmond: And, but if it wasn't in a question form that was unacceptable to.

2754
04:33:40.110 --> 04:33:43.200
Daffodil Tyminski: All right, thank you i'm very Catholic go ahead.

2755
04:33:46.920 --> 04:33:47.400
barrycassilly: wow.

2756
04:33:49.110 --> 04:33:57.660
barrycassilly: i've never understood this issue, people have been talking about it for three four years now, it seems really simple to me.

2757
04:34:00.210 --> 04:34:08.340
barrycassilly: The people on this half on the side of the street had the properties down zoned on obviously it was unfair.

2758
04:34:09.090 --> 04:34:25.050
barrycassilly: um everything else on rose is like mixed use commercial in the first one residential above um it seems completely reasonable to restore their zoning on I just don't understand why some people are like super upset about this.

2759
04:34:26.790 --> 04:34:43.050
barrycassilly: These people are neighbors it was wrong how this was done uh there was no sorry that I know there were no Community outreach meetings where these Homeowners knew what was going to happen um and.

2760
04:34:44.100 --> 04:34:49.530
barrycassilly: I don't know why are you Why are people so post to this like it should be like restored.

2761
04:34:50.760 --> 04:34:51.210
barrycassilly: Thank you.

2762
04:34:52.530 --> 04:34:53.490
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks so much.

2763
04:34:54.990 --> 04:34:57.630
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, with that we're closing public comment.

2764
04:34:58.440 --> 04:35:16.140
james murez: Thank you um I didn't realize that Jason is the petitioner when we got a minute to speak and I guess that there is some amount of information that we didn't go over I think I would like to give him the opportunity to take a couple of minutes Jason are you still available there.

2765
04:35:17.700 --> 04:35:19.590
james murez: Definitely, do you see Jason anywhere.

2766
04:35:20.850 --> 04:35:22.140
Daffodil Tyminski: um I do.

2767
04:35:23.640 --> 04:35:25.680
james murez: I don't know three minutes or five minutes to.

2768
04:35:25.740 --> 04:35:26.070
Daffodil Tyminski: play.

2769
04:35:26.130 --> 04:35:28.020
james murez: I get everyone on.

2770
04:35:28.950 --> 04:35:31.290
jason tong: Yes, hello, how are you.

2771
04:35:31.380 --> 04:35:40.770
james murez: hi how much time, do you think you need to tell us you know how we how you got to where you did to to to putting this forward and.

2772
04:35:41.280 --> 04:35:42.540
jason tong: Well, you know.

2773
04:35:42.930 --> 04:35:45.270
james murez: I mean it's three minutes enough or do you need five.

2774
04:35:45.390 --> 04:35:53.400
jason tong: I don't think we can define you know i'll try to be quick, because I know RON is tired and wants to go home and exhausting.

2775
04:35:53.550 --> 04:35:54.690
james murez: So, give me give.

2776
04:35:54.690 --> 04:35:56.190
jason tong: me a senator.

2777
04:35:56.430 --> 04:35:57.840
james murez: How much how much time.

2778
04:35:58.530 --> 04:35:59.730
jason tong: yeah three minutes is fine.

2779
04:36:00.240 --> 04:36:02.250
james murez: Okay you're on go for it.

2780
04:36:02.850 --> 04:36:15.240
jason tong: So you know I know this big issue when everyone hates Jason to Carl amber airbnb and comments housing thing and thinking that like i'm this person, they can hide behind this this.

2781
04:36:16.080 --> 04:36:21.270
jason tong: image that you can't really go after because it's so sad and how the everything stolen.

2782
04:36:21.660 --> 04:36:29.340
jason tong: And it was pretty bad they like to claim that there was a proper outreach but there wasn't you know the same people are trying to stop it, are the ones that did it.

2783
04:36:29.730 --> 04:36:35.610
jason tong: And it was done in 10 days, and it was posted in downtown la because la is 10 pound venice's la fundamentally.

2784
04:36:35.940 --> 04:36:41.700
jason tong: So as posted in the library, like the town hall and stuff like that, and how is that considered.

2785
04:36:42.060 --> 04:36:48.480
jason tong: reaching out to people wasn't posted on the paper it wasn't 30 days and didn't have any Community outreach like they do now.

2786
04:36:48.720 --> 04:36:55.200
jason tong: It was done to achieve their goal and their meetings, without any real respect to locals hard work and our hard work.

2787
04:36:55.530 --> 04:37:03.450
jason tong: They like to claim they've been here a long time Judy we've been here since the 50s we were here before, since we bought this commercially with a commercial loan.

2788
04:37:03.840 --> 04:37:13.260
jason tong: Right, and so I would just do my block but that's not how it works right the city stole everything and one kind of rezoning move that was done.

2789
04:37:13.590 --> 04:37:23.250
jason tong: And some people sold off, but they really took advantage of an information gap and effect a lot of these people weren't educated enough to fight back or had the money and needs to fight back right.

2790
04:37:23.580 --> 04:37:31.830
jason tong: So yeah your goal was to kind of do one thing a lot of people trying to stop it had a real single minded way of doing it and they think that had.

2791
04:37:32.490 --> 04:37:43.170
jason tong: The needs of the many we way the needs of a few people around here right but you're talking about dozens of people right we bought this commercial commercial loans and.

2792
04:37:43.530 --> 04:37:48.420
jason tong: You know our prayers value we can't switch to the business climate and adjustments right.

2793
04:37:48.840 --> 04:37:54.540
jason tong: And the city is not just going to fix one block they're not going to go hey we're going to spot on back to one block.

2794
04:37:54.840 --> 04:38:07.020
jason tong: And so they've created a real political divide here and they're using everybody to kind of stop and going forward right i've tried to apply multiple times, through the city route i've been lied to.

2795
04:38:07.740 --> 04:38:18.120
jason tong: i've tried to have they won't even allow me to apply to city, they were rejecting my application my very due process, my constitutional rights, so they stolen in 10 days.

2796
04:38:18.930 --> 04:38:28.170
jason tong: In the name of housing, but you know Okay, but who pays all the taxes for these housing thing businesses around here property taxes.

2797
04:38:28.500 --> 04:38:33.000
jason tong: Were you thinking comes from right so they're shooting themselves in the foot, while.

2798
04:38:33.450 --> 04:38:40.500
jason tong: Taking the rights of other people How does that make anything better I can't move forward to sitting on on, let me apply to spend a half a decade.

2799
04:38:40.920 --> 04:38:51.360
jason tong: I wanted to put tacos and pizzas never for anyone else showed up, and now I can't I can't even go to the city to fix it so my hands are tied i'm suing the city.

2800
04:38:51.750 --> 04:38:56.160
jason tong: And i'm trying to do this to create more awareness and you know the hell with those people.

2801
04:38:56.370 --> 04:39:04.680
jason tong: That think that a few people are going to gain on top of all these other people are going to gain way more like okay dozens and dozens of people are going to win got host.

2802
04:39:04.920 --> 04:39:12.570
jason tong: Not just the workers, my whole block Barber shop owners all kinds of guys next to me can't change it it's not just a few people it's doesn't.

2803
04:39:12.900 --> 04:39:19.500
jason tong: Right, so you guys take these two guys and you're willing to take all these other people down with you because something was done legally.

2804
04:39:20.010 --> 04:39:29.910
jason tong: And they like to claim it was done legally wasn't really it would never pass the test now you kind of leading to coastal Commission you couldn't just change everyone's it'd be a riot.

2805
04:39:30.270 --> 04:39:39.000
james murez: Jason Thank you yeah we gave you the three minutes and I appreciate that and and I feel I feel for your story, we need to keep moving on with our meeting.

2806
04:39:40.650 --> 04:39:46.830
james murez: Maybe stick around in case we have a question for you, as the committee goes through questions and answers.

2807
04:39:47.790 --> 04:39:54.960
james murez: And, and hopefully mchale who wrote a lengthy report and send it out to all the board members so stick around to in case we have questions that need to be answered.

2808
04:39:55.920 --> 04:40:07.260
james murez: Let me start by by addressing the committee's people who have hands up Mike yours up first pretty much at the beginning, go ahead now.

2809
04:40:07.530 --> 04:40:10.500
Mike Bravo: yeah that's when I go back a little bit too, as far as.

2810
04:40:12.480 --> 04:40:17.370
Mike Bravo: A dozen some of the comments the way Alex has been addressed not understand lot of us have you know.

2811
04:40:18.540 --> 04:40:28.530
Mike Bravo: disagreements and we're at all as far as some of our values, though, but there's no need for some of the slight Paul can we can do better, I know we're all tired, but let's try being mindful of that place and.

2812
04:40:29.880 --> 04:40:36.870
Mike Bravo: there's also know signatures to that's that you know I would that's that's a mistake or not, we need those signatures and.

2813
04:40:37.740 --> 04:40:46.170
Mike Bravo: This board is already highly scrutinized already the leadership and just all of us, in general, so not having that only further deteriorates.

2814
04:40:46.920 --> 04:40:54.270
Mike Bravo: Transparency and trust in our in our you know our seats here, and so we really need to not go down that route.

2815
04:40:54.930 --> 04:41:01.620
Mike Bravo: And I really feel for Jason situation you know i've been kind of following it for a while, too, but you know, sadly, it is kind of bundled up with some other.

2816
04:41:02.550 --> 04:41:11.610
Mike Bravo: Unscrupulous looking you know context and players involved in this as well too so i'm happy to work with Jason man that future.

2817
04:41:12.120 --> 04:41:25.620
Mike Bravo: i'm trying to resolve something but um you know there's some very dangerous implications as far as you know, these other you know possibilities for not good stuff coming in creeping into this Thank you.

2818
04:41:26.280 --> 04:41:29.130
james murez: Thank you Ivan I have a question where you're you saw online.

2819
04:41:31.830 --> 04:41:32.700
james murez: I haven't are you there.

2820
04:41:38.100 --> 04:41:43.410
james murez: Let me see who's participating PC still here, he says Ivan can you hear me.

2821
04:41:46.200 --> 04:41:47.130
james murez: Where you go I haven't.

2822
04:41:48.180 --> 04:41:49.020
Ivan: Okay, good.

2823
04:41:49.320 --> 04:41:50.310
james murez: I have a question for you.

2824
04:41:52.740 --> 04:41:55.170
james murez: If we were to.

2825
04:41:56.280 --> 04:42:11.550
james murez: Pass emotion tonight, based on there being 60 or more signatures on a petition and turned out to be an incorrect or invalid number of signatures would that nullify the the the motion.

2826
04:42:13.530 --> 04:42:14.970
james murez: Sorry, could you repeat yourself I didn't hear.

2827
04:42:14.970 --> 04:42:15.450
james murez: Yes.

2828
04:42:16.050 --> 04:42:16.530
Oh yes.

2829
04:42:17.550 --> 04:42:17.790
Ivan: yeah.

2830
04:42:18.000 --> 04:42:19.770
james murez: yeah you're on Thank you know.

2831
04:42:19.830 --> 04:42:20.070
james murez: I mean.

2832
04:42:20.220 --> 04:42:28.920
Ivan: that's where there was mistaken about the petition needs to be linked from the agenda, I told you that, last night, when we talk.

2833
04:42:29.910 --> 04:42:35.370
james murez: um I don't recall you saying that but I hear you now, I mean I understand how.

2834
04:42:35.610 --> 04:42:36.150
Ivan: Are you doing.

2835
04:42:36.180 --> 04:42:39.990
james murez: I thought you said, but at any rate, that had that didn't happen.

2836
04:42:41.730 --> 04:42:44.880
james murez: Right and so we're not trying to hide the signatures.

2837
04:42:45.090 --> 04:42:46.530
james murez: I just want to make sure that.

2838
04:42:46.620 --> 04:42:52.200
james murez: That if we act on something tonight and the signatures do not exist, for whatever reason.

2839
04:42:53.340 --> 04:42:56.760
james murez: That that everybody understands that that nothing would move forward.

2840
04:42:58.500 --> 04:43:00.030
Ivan: it'll go back to scratch.

2841
04:43:00.180 --> 04:43:00.360
james murez: That.

2842
04:43:00.660 --> 04:43:04.590
Ivan: goes back after grievances so file new.

2843
04:43:04.980 --> 04:43:07.470
Ivan: Thank you want to go through all that.

2844
04:43:07.770 --> 04:43:08.550
james murez: Thank you Ivan.

2845
04:43:08.760 --> 04:43:11.100
james murez: Thank you okay i'm.

2846
04:43:12.330 --> 04:43:18.270
james murez: Okay, the next speaker I believe Clark had his hand up not.

2847
04:43:18.270 --> 04:43:20.070
CJ Cole: had my hand up for ages.

2848
04:43:20.130 --> 04:43:23.250
james murez: Okay, I don't know them, you know, then they move around on the screen.

2849
04:43:23.700 --> 04:43:24.480
CJ Cole: At the top.

2850
04:43:24.840 --> 04:43:26.760
james murez: Okay, you go ahead cj.

2851
04:43:27.120 --> 04:43:37.470
CJ Cole: Okay um my personal feeling is that this kind of thing which is affecting zoning should be part of our specific plan.

2852
04:43:38.040 --> 04:43:49.200
CJ Cole: And should be addressed at that point and not at this point I just think it's you know it's been tossed around, but it is something that is going to.

2853
04:43:49.590 --> 04:44:08.940
CJ Cole: involve have quite a few properties it's a whole you know this whole lot more to it than just changing something from being one unit to two units and allowing an ad or something and I just think it should be, you know how often presented as part of our specific plan.

2854
04:44:09.900 --> 04:44:19.500
james murez: I appreciate that and I think that's what the motion said I can put the screen share back up there, but I think it was making recommendations, the planning department that it is considered as part of our.

2855
04:44:21.840 --> 04:44:37.770
james murez: plan let's just see what that says, let me move my screen around a bit, so I can see it, whereas Baba BA BA therefore shall recommend to the Department of city planning coastal Commission the properties below commercials on result so we're making a recommendation to the planning department.

2856
04:44:39.480 --> 04:44:40.740
james murez: I think that's fairly clear.

2857
04:44:43.980 --> 04:44:49.290
james murez: Okay let's keep going um NICO you have your hand up go ahead.

2858
04:44:54.000 --> 04:44:54.330
james murez: and

2859
04:44:56.730 --> 04:44:57.690
Nico Ruderman: Go ahead yeah I.

2860
04:44:59.940 --> 04:45:05.070
Nico Ruderman: I guess i'm still a little confused about.

2861
04:45:06.780 --> 04:45:13.860
Nico Ruderman: This motion and, in the sense of what you're saying right now is is this actually would amend our specific plan.

2862
04:45:14.310 --> 04:45:14.730
james murez: No.

2863
04:45:15.300 --> 04:45:15.930
This is a.

2864
04:45:17.760 --> 04:45:29.670
james murez: This is a proposal to ask the planning department to look at this that the dnc would support this being adopted into our upcoming land use plan.

2865
04:45:30.450 --> 04:45:32.460
Nico Ruderman: Right right that's yeah that's what I meant okay.

2866
04:45:34.620 --> 04:45:37.050
Nico Ruderman: I guess I, I would just like to say that.

2867
04:45:40.710 --> 04:45:48.930
Nico Ruderman: It seems like a lot of the objections to this or not based on the merits of what actually has been done in the history of its and and.

2868
04:45:49.410 --> 04:46:06.870
Nico Ruderman: are more based on people's dislike of certain people, which I would just urge people to think about that I don't think how you feel about specific people in our Community should affect the merits of the projects, especially when it affects this many people.

2869
04:46:07.950 --> 04:46:11.100
Nico Ruderman: You know I don't think so many people should be punished just because you don't like a couple.

2870
04:46:12.630 --> 04:46:15.750
Nico Ruderman: So I I think i'm gonna support this motion.

2871
04:46:16.620 --> 04:46:23.850
james murez: Thank you, I just got a text message from seema want to let her deputy Oh, can you let him go back into the meeting, please.

2872
04:46:25.050 --> 04:46:25.530
Daffodil Tyminski: sure.

2873
04:46:25.860 --> 04:46:27.900
james murez: Like, I would like to continue um.

2874
04:46:28.380 --> 04:46:34.140
Nico Ruderman: I actually have one one last question i'm dealing with signatures because something i've actually dealt with quite a bit lately.

2875
04:46:35.430 --> 04:46:41.880
Nico Ruderman: So people are saying that the signatures on a petition to the dnc needs to be public.

2876
04:46:43.290 --> 04:46:44.400
Nico Ruderman: As is that.

2877
04:46:45.630 --> 04:46:52.890
Nico Ruderman: You know I mean, I know I know, for example, all the signatures I just gathered like we're not we're not allowed to disclose them right.

2878
04:46:53.700 --> 04:47:00.450
james murez: I think I think you're asking a good question and I think that's a question that we should probably take to rules and selections as we revise.

2879
04:47:00.750 --> 04:47:11.070
james murez: Our bylaws at this point it's completely silent on what happens to those signatures it just says that the signatures, need to be presented to the Secretary, and they have been and so.

2880
04:47:12.150 --> 04:47:14.670
Nico Ruderman: Because obviously they need to be verified by somebody but but I.

2881
04:47:15.030 --> 04:47:16.470
Nico Ruderman: guess whether they're public I mean I.

2882
04:47:16.620 --> 04:47:19.350
Nico Ruderman: Correct I would quite question that the.

2883
04:47:20.430 --> 04:47:21.330
Nico Ruderman: what's behind that.

2884
04:47:21.450 --> 04:47:36.330
james murez: I don't have that answer that's a very good question I think that's something that it's very clear that we need to resolve that in the upcoming revised bylaws and we will get to that, and now that it's been made very clear that this is an issue it's never been an issue before.

2885
04:47:37.440 --> 04:47:40.260
james murez: i'm going to go ahead and call on alley now y'all you had your hand up.

2886
04:47:40.620 --> 04:47:42.060
james murez: yeah i'm going to put your hand down.

2887
04:47:42.750 --> 04:47:51.060
Alley Bean: yeah um first of all i'm really sorry for the outbreak and and Robert it was not personal had enough it's not personal to you, Jim it's not personal to you.

2888
04:47:52.290 --> 04:48:10.500
Alley Bean: it's This is something that i've been doing a lot of research about I had a long one hour long conversation with Ruth galanter to get to the bottom of what really happened she did not spot zone, it was not about the storage space Mikhail I mean you should actually talk to her.

2889
04:48:12.060 --> 04:48:24.630
Alley Bean: It the storage space, she was she was very involved with that it was that was Venice Community housing, it was to get affordable housing and they made a deal, this was literally done before her by her predecessor, Pat, I came over last name jam.

2890
04:48:24.630 --> 04:48:25.290
james murez: With Russell.

2891
04:48:25.500 --> 04:48:33.690
Alley Bean: Russell and it was just took four and a half years, and the Community went through a thing like we're going through now with our planning department.

2892
04:48:34.170 --> 04:48:47.610
Alley Bean: And they all you know, and it was a way to save residential housing in Venice they saved some residential housing on the boardwalk Jason Tom I completely sympathize with you and I think it's a different issue.

2893
04:48:48.270 --> 04:48:56.010
Alley Bean: I think yours is a very different issue, and I think you were royally screwed and I think it was very unfair and I think those kinds of spot zones are unfair.

2894
04:48:56.340 --> 04:49:02.910
Alley Bean: That you would that you just like one night off with your notice, and I mean that's that's crazy to me and i'm with you.

2895
04:49:03.330 --> 04:49:07.920
Alley Bean: But in terms of rose avenue, which I do care about I have a lot of friends that live on rose up and you.

2896
04:49:08.370 --> 04:49:17.040
Alley Bean: You know, for me to take away the rsl housing on rose avenue and make it one big commercial quarter, is something that I actually, personally, am opposed to.

2897
04:49:17.490 --> 04:49:35.190
Alley Bean: Because I think we are in such a housing prices there's no affordable housing for people to live in apartments and the friends that I have who were you know lived there for like 60 years are and and and if no sorrow or so housing, they will be completely displaced if it's made commercial.

2898
04:49:36.510 --> 04:49:41.640
Alley Bean: Because you know they'll have to take the building down, of course, to make commercial on the bottom and have the.

2899
04:49:42.000 --> 04:49:53.550
Alley Bean: You know, residential they have it on the top I know they'll be residential apartments but it's just a question of what's happening on the boardwalk and all over Venice is the poor residents, which is what I loved about Venice.

2900
04:49:54.150 --> 04:50:01.230
Alley Bean: You know, originally moving here is the diversity of Venice and it just it's making it all so NICO that's, the only thing i'd say to you.

2901
04:50:01.560 --> 04:50:13.050
Alley Bean: it's really not personal it's not you know I, the only reason I brought up Roberts name is because he works with Jason segel owns all these properties, so I just said that's a conflict of interest and the same thing you know but.

2902
04:50:14.130 --> 04:50:18.570
james murez: You know that's fine Thank you ellie i'm I think i'm gonna start running a clock.

2903
04:50:18.720 --> 04:50:20.790
robertthibodeau: i've never i've never worked for Jason T.

2904
04:50:21.630 --> 04:50:22.680
james murez: And I.

2905
04:50:23.010 --> 04:50:24.570
robertthibodeau: just said that clear i've never.

2906
04:50:24.660 --> 04:50:26.640
robertthibodeau: i've never I don't think i've ever met him.

2907
04:50:27.120 --> 04:50:30.330
james murez: Thank you, Robert i'm i'm going to limit board.

2908
04:50:30.750 --> 04:50:31.500
Alley Bean: So sorry of the.

2909
04:50:32.070 --> 04:50:45.120
james murez: Committee to committee people speaking for two minutes and i'm going to give you a 15 second warning and i'll share my screen and we'll call on people, as we go through, so we can.

2910
04:50:46.020 --> 04:50:54.480
james murez: move this along we don't need to take tons and tons of time here for this okay so let's see Am I sharing my screen right now I think so um.

2911
04:50:54.720 --> 04:50:56.280
Alley Bean: I think it's important that you know just.

2912
04:50:56.370 --> 04:50:57.360
james murez: olly olly.

2913
04:50:58.410 --> 04:50:59.130
james murez: olly we.

2914
04:50:59.160 --> 04:51:00.120
james murez: might hear you.

2915
04:51:01.290 --> 04:51:06.720
Alley Bean: I don't know if anybody heard that but it's important because it's all based these motions based on something and it's not true.

2916
04:51:07.650 --> 04:51:13.440
Daffodil Tyminski: I would say to live at the board at this point when only few people have spoken is really unfair.

2917
04:51:13.860 --> 04:51:15.630
james murez: Well, we have.

2918
04:51:18.930 --> 04:51:29.100
james murez: We have we have we have 1231234562467 hands up.

2919
04:51:31.020 --> 04:51:34.590
james murez: If we do two minutes speech that's 15 minutes.

2920
04:51:36.660 --> 04:51:37.800
james murez: And then we need to take a boat.

2921
04:51:41.160 --> 04:51:43.770
james murez: I don't think anybody else has spoken for more than two minutes.

2922
04:51:46.080 --> 04:51:48.300
james murez: So let's try that and see where we go.

2923
04:51:50.520 --> 04:51:51.060
james murez: i'm.

2924
04:51:53.790 --> 04:51:54.780
james murez: elite go ahead.

2925
04:51:56.340 --> 04:51:59.250
Alix: gemma's Chair of the pack, I think I might need a little more time.

2926
04:51:59.310 --> 04:52:09.930
Alix: So anyway i'm Jason I fully understand and empathize with your situation it's wrong, this is not a personal vendetta against anyone.

2927
04:52:10.740 --> 04:52:22.110
Alix: What the Committee should know is that several real estate owners Marzano matt sharp Jason teague john cook and one monjaraz and dwight.

2928
04:52:22.590 --> 04:52:32.970
Alix: bomb and Matthew around drew have been working to gain petition signatures for this, because there's a plan in place to put forth a mixed use building that will displace many.

2929
04:52:33.330 --> 04:52:42.690
Alix: Of the low income residents on rose avenue so let's be really clear that that is going on um I sent a letter out.

2930
04:52:43.170 --> 04:52:59.940
Alix: Addressing why this wasn't on the agenda and it should be noted that this item has been floating around since the time Robin router soul was chair of new pack, and it was pushed through at the end of matt royce's term right before I was elected for my first term and.

2931
04:53:00.990 --> 04:53:09.090
Alix: It was retracted because there were ethical conflicts of interests, I would like to read the letter because I think the board needs to hear this as public.

2932
04:53:10.110 --> 04:53:15.750
Alix: First and foremost, as chair of loop back, I will not be placing them on the live packed agenda until I decided it's ready to be heard.

2933
04:53:16.080 --> 04:53:23.580
Alix: The zoning change for ocean front lock and rose avenue from residential to commercial has far reaching impact that must be addressed and discuss within the Community.

2934
04:53:24.120 --> 04:53:29.970
Alix: there's much outreach and analysis that still needs to be done more important is the need to preserve our average dwindling.

2935
04:53:30.690 --> 04:53:38.520
Alix: housing stock as mandated by the mellow act and housing element of the general plan and as identified as an issue of importance in our certified land use plan.

2936
04:53:39.090 --> 04:53:46.230
Alix: The reasons why this motion will not be agenda is given more time for proper review outreach and staff report include but are not limited to the following.

2937
04:53:46.800 --> 04:53:57.390
Alix: The decision to zone these areas residential was no mistake or oversight, it was consciously done to preserve house in any commercial uses on those blocks were grandfathered as legal non conforming uses.

2938
04:53:57.420 --> 04:53:58.020
james murez: polycom and.

2939
04:53:58.620 --> 04:54:00.060
james murez: You Thank you.

2940
04:54:01.770 --> 04:54:02.940
james murez: card Clark go ahead, please.

2941
04:54:03.960 --> 04:54:05.310
clark brown: I am I correct that.

2942
04:54:05.820 --> 04:54:09.180
Alix: Jim i'm sorry, you gave Jason tongue three or four minutes.

2943
04:54:12.420 --> 04:54:14.850
Alix: Public to the Community Jim, this is not right.

2944
04:54:14.940 --> 04:54:15.690
Alley Bean: I agree.

2945
04:54:16.710 --> 04:54:17.280
james murez: I agree, is.

2946
04:54:17.550 --> 04:54:20.010
james murez: Not a long time to be in this.

2947
04:54:21.660 --> 04:54:22.770
james murez: Park, you have the floor.

2948
04:54:26.100 --> 04:54:27.480
Alix: The Board would agree with that.

2949
04:54:34.350 --> 04:54:35.010
clark brown: Finish.

2950
04:54:35.580 --> 04:54:39.990
Andrea Boccaletti: Jim I agree, she needs another minute at least finish what she was talking about that some that's.

2951
04:54:40.170 --> 04:54:42.630
james murez: Okay, then we're going to stay past 11 o'clock.

2952
04:54:42.660 --> 04:54:44.520
Andrea Boccaletti: that's fine one minute one minute it's not going.

2953
04:54:44.850 --> 04:54:49.320
james murez: To stay in past one minute will stay past until we get it done elite go ahead.

2954
04:54:51.510 --> 04:54:56.370
Alix: The impact of the big has not been evaluated there's a potential for significant additional taxes.

2955
04:54:56.730 --> 04:55:03.510
Alix: The zone on residential owners, the zoning issue must be addressed in the bcp LCP process, not as a one off overreaching motion.

2956
04:55:03.930 --> 04:55:11.730
Alix: If not addressed in a systematic way there's potential for every person with a zoning issue to put forth individual notions to obtain separately and see recommendations.

2957
04:55:12.120 --> 04:55:22.680
Alix: The motion is misleading and potentially factually inaccurate blaming the zoning changes on spot zoning when in fact the zone changes were done deliberately as part of the LCP process that included extensive outreach.

2958
04:55:23.520 --> 04:55:30.990
Alix: And I followed this motion for quite some time and there are three stakeholders Jody maroney Jason Tang and rick swinger who've been impacted.

2959
04:55:31.350 --> 04:55:39.510
Alix: That being said, graphic elements be stated at the April 25 2019 loop tech meeting that the city was aware of these issues and prepared to address them.

2960
04:55:39.780 --> 04:55:43.290
Alix: Who in the city made the statement, how is the city prepared to address.

2961
04:55:43.560 --> 04:55:50.460
Alix: For us to adequately that this motion through dnc, we need to understand what hardships have been calls to those who have had their commercial uses grandfathered.

2962
04:55:50.760 --> 04:55:58.380
Alix: To be legal non conforming and what changes they want to make that are not currently able to make and, more importantly, what, if anything, is a city doing to be helpful.

2963
04:55:59.130 --> 04:56:09.900
Alix: zoning changes are important issues that can significantly affect the surrounding neighborhoods and materially affect property values, we need to ensure that this topic is being addressed with the utmost analysis care integrity.

2964
04:56:10.230 --> 04:56:18.660
Alix: Security and public input today, there have been no lubec staff reports on this motion and no due diligence as to why the zoning was changed in 1989.

2965
04:56:19.050 --> 04:56:22.290
Alix: The research and analyst must be done before we proposed changes.

2966
04:56:22.620 --> 04:56:31.200
Alix: And finally, the elephant in the room, since September of 2015 when this motion was originally put forth there's been much discussion about the numerous financial conflicts of interest.

2967
04:56:31.500 --> 04:56:38.280
Alix: about the committee and board level I don't want to go into this email, but we all know the history around the conflicts of interest that being said.

2968
04:56:38.610 --> 04:56:42.960
Alix: In our new vs the era of transparency with so much at stake, but actually there must be fullest.

2969
04:56:43.620 --> 04:56:56.640
Alix: Potential conflicts of interest to determine who is actually to participate in this discussion and, more importantly, to vote on this issue, so the short answer is that there's significant outreach and research to be done before this can be placed on the agenda, thank you, Jim.

2970
04:56:57.270 --> 04:57:04.080
james murez: you're welcome there's a lot of incorrect statements there, but we can get into that later Clark, you have floor.

2971
04:57:05.100 --> 04:57:21.390
clark brown: Am I correct that with respect to the properties which were identified in the last two lines of this motion that they were originally commercial properties, then they were down zoned residential properties and the proposal is to upsell them again to.

2972
04:57:22.560 --> 04:57:23.640
clark brown: Commercial properties.

2973
04:57:23.880 --> 04:57:25.020
Alley Bean: No that's not true.

2974
04:57:25.080 --> 04:57:27.180
clark brown: that's not correct what's wrong with.

2975
04:57:27.840 --> 04:57:31.950
james murez: Reversal to start le le Pew Thank you.

2976
04:57:32.610 --> 04:57:34.650
clark brown: That was my next question in.

2977
04:57:34.710 --> 04:57:37.440
james murez: part the question, the answer to your question.

2978
04:57:38.880 --> 04:57:42.360
james murez: They started off as commercial zone was changed to.

2979
04:57:42.360 --> 04:57:43.200
clark brown: residential.

2980
04:57:43.530 --> 04:57:44.970
james murez: And now the request is.

2981
04:57:45.180 --> 04:57:50.160
james murez: put forward a recommendation to the planning department to turn them back into commercial.

2982
04:57:50.280 --> 04:58:01.500
james murez: Okay it's not change how they're currently being used if they're currently being used as rsl units that requirement would still be there it's just the underlying zoning.

2983
04:58:01.620 --> 04:58:04.140
clark brown: you're just changing the zoning you're not changing the uses.

2984
04:58:04.140 --> 04:58:04.770
clark brown: But next.

2985
04:58:05.610 --> 04:58:27.990
clark brown: My next question is up, I thought we had a zone, that was a higher intensity use like commercial that you could also have lower intensity uses there so, even if they are resolved back to commercial why couldn't you also have start mixed residential uses there as well, you can okay so.

2986
04:58:29.490 --> 04:58:29.850
clark brown: Why not.

2987
04:58:30.570 --> 04:58:33.780
james murez: Thank you, thank you Clark, unless you have another question another question.

2988
04:58:34.050 --> 04:58:45.930
clark brown: yeah, why not approve this with the understanding that it can be tweaked to make clear that you could also have residential uses new residents will use as long with the commercial uses.

2989
04:58:46.050 --> 04:58:54.570
james murez: Right well, that would come out in a new land use plan with it, you know there's still going to be multiple public hearings on the new land use plan even once they.

2990
04:58:55.500 --> 04:59:07.050
james murez: come up with a draft version there's a public process for that has to be approved twice the city level at least twice at the coastal level, this is not the end of this is not the end of this road, this is sort of the start.

2991
04:59:08.220 --> 04:59:08.700
james murez: daffodil.

2992
04:59:08.970 --> 04:59:14.280
Alix: I need to just retract a statement that she was named needs to be retracted from that that was my error.

2993
04:59:14.730 --> 04:59:21.330
james murez: yeah well there were several errors there and i'll be happy to talk to you about anytime offline I was there, and this came wave.

2994
04:59:22.170 --> 04:59:37.230
james murez: For the coastal conservancy ever came to Venice they came to Venice in 1989 to start the way and use process, they didn't come to Venice before that okay yourself Thank you daffodil.

2995
04:59:38.340 --> 04:59:39.210
james murez: You have the floor.

2996
04:59:40.110 --> 04:59:52.860
Daffodil Tyminski: um yeah I mean to me, I have to laugh at all of this anti commentary on this, because you know I feel like this is the like i'm shocked that gambling is going on here cluttering speech from Casa Blanca.

2997
04:59:53.940 --> 05:00:03.090
Daffodil Tyminski: We have literally people that were there, you know their fifth amendment rights were basically taken away from them by the city.

2998
05:00:03.480 --> 05:00:09.810
Daffodil Tyminski: I don't know what Lewis galanter told le been, but I have actually spoken to the landlords.

2999
05:00:10.350 --> 05:00:20.820
Daffodil Tyminski: Are the property owners on some of the properties that worked with risk galanter to basically have their properties taken out of this proposal in 1989 because.

3000
05:00:21.480 --> 05:00:28.620
Daffodil Tyminski: This was noticed downtown with little notice to the the you know little actual notice, as we talked about it now to the local folks.

3001
05:00:29.130 --> 05:00:40.500
Daffodil Tyminski: But select people who are friends with the Council person then got notice and were able to get their properties turned off, which is why that first block of North Venice is.

3002
05:00:41.100 --> 05:00:48.780
Daffodil Tyminski: zone commercial but there's so much information disinformation and what a leak said I literally can't even.

3003
05:00:49.410 --> 05:00:56.940
Daffodil Tyminski: get into it all in two minutes i'm Ali i'm disappointed that you kind of fell for this whole this information, I thought you were smarter than that.

3004
05:00:57.810 --> 05:01:08.010
Daffodil Tyminski: leaks, you know, the idea that this didn't go to loop hack is laughable we've tried to get this for loop Pack for four years you've refused to deal with it.

3005
05:01:08.760 --> 05:01:14.610
Daffodil Tyminski: The idea that this was not actually accepted through the pack because of conflicts of interest is completely untrue.

3006
05:01:15.060 --> 05:01:22.260
Daffodil Tyminski: The idea that this is all conflict it out, and then we have conflicts with these folks I will tell you I know matt Shaw.

3007
05:01:23.250 --> 05:01:34.770
Daffodil Tyminski: Out of the dnc and I know mark was auto out of the dnc they're the only two people in all of this that I even have ever gotten their cell phone numbers for or of talking to more than twice.

3008
05:01:35.880 --> 05:01:47.880
Daffodil Tyminski: So there's this kind of like just general smear out there, that if you're for this idea that you have some sort of weird conflict of interest or some sort of weird cabal conspiracy theory.

3009
05:01:48.210 --> 05:01:58.470
Daffodil Tyminski: When, in fact, when I look at this, I think, if I own this property what would, I think, would I be upset if the city without telling me took away my property rights.

3010
05:01:58.830 --> 05:02:03.960
Daffodil Tyminski: Would I be upset if all of a sudden, I tried to put an addition, on my building and I was told no.

3011
05:02:04.470 --> 05:02:21.030
Daffodil Tyminski: Would I be upset if I got my property appraised and I was told oh your property's worth half of what it was because they got rezoned um for the fact is the most of these properties are not are so properties, as is the disinformation that's been sort of promulgated tonight.

3012
05:02:22.950 --> 05:02:24.000
Daffodil Tyminski: They are.

3013
05:02:26.550 --> 05:02:31.740
Daffodil Tyminski: For the most part the people that have wanted to develop them want to preserve housing.

3014
05:02:32.070 --> 05:02:39.750
Daffodil Tyminski: So this idea that they're one that people want to create a commercial car door and eliminate housing from these areas is completely false.

3015
05:02:40.110 --> 05:02:46.410
Daffodil Tyminski: And all of the people who have advanced that tonight, except, I would say Ali, who I believe was probably misled.

3016
05:02:47.310 --> 05:02:53.310
Daffodil Tyminski: They all know that this is false and yet I have no idea I have no idea why people like.

3017
05:02:53.760 --> 05:03:04.800
Daffodil Tyminski: Robin and our grid and ELISE hate their fellow Community members so much that they want to see certain property owners suffer who are willing to do the right thing they want to preserve housing.

3018
05:03:05.010 --> 05:03:08.550
Daffodil Tyminski: They just want the rights that they thought they had when they bought the property.

3019
05:03:09.030 --> 05:03:23.130
Daffodil Tyminski: I don't understand what this cabal conspiracy theory is, but I find it really sad actually that this is as a Community, how you relate to your fellow Community members, and you can escape book me i'll own it totally fine I can take it.

3020
05:03:24.300 --> 05:03:35.250
Daffodil Tyminski: Now, with respect to the signatures um the signatures have to all be redacted so typically it is la city law, but we do not make signatures public.

3021
05:03:35.580 --> 05:03:42.420
Daffodil Tyminski: I don't know what's done in the past i've worked with the city before and other governments before, and this has always been the same procedure.

3022
05:03:42.780 --> 05:03:54.900
Daffodil Tyminski: But there were well over 60 signatures taken, I do have one if there's any question about that feel free to ask me but I don't see why that would be an impediment to a vote tonight i'm finally.

3023
05:03:56.310 --> 05:04:03.870
Daffodil Tyminski: um you know I I do think folks should really think about if you owned one of these properties, what would you think.

3024
05:04:04.380 --> 05:04:21.570
Daffodil Tyminski: If you were on rose, and you were to the city told you, they could not enforce quality of life ordinances on your block because you're a commercial card or but, yet you weren't allowed to actually use your property commercially because it was zoned residential How would you feel.

3025
05:04:23.130 --> 05:04:33.150
Daffodil Tyminski: And finally, I think there's a real misunderstanding here that in supporting this motion, we do not automatically flip a light switch and turn all these properties into commercial.

3026
05:04:33.690 --> 05:04:43.350
Daffodil Tyminski: What we do is turn them into being commercially zoned and once they're commercially zone it's up to each individual property owner, in whichever way they feel fit.

3027
05:04:43.740 --> 05:04:51.840
Daffodil Tyminski: To change the use of the property, which is an application, they have to make through the city, just like everybody else has to if you want to change a.

3028
05:04:52.410 --> 05:05:01.560
Daffodil Tyminski: store from a retail to a restaurant right, so the idea here is to align these properties, with the zoning that was always intended.

3029
05:05:01.980 --> 05:05:12.300
Daffodil Tyminski: And that will confer on these properties all the benefits that they should have had all this time there'll be able to get commercial loans to support the properties they'll be able to potentially redevelop them.

3030
05:05:12.720 --> 05:05:23.310
Daffodil Tyminski: And it doesn't mean at all the we ever lose a residential unit, I have no idea how everyone got to this idea that this happens, I had thought that elites had been.

3031
05:05:24.780 --> 05:05:30.120
Daffodil Tyminski: Against this because she was against the median project, and she thought and actually actually told me.

3032
05:05:30.510 --> 05:05:38.550
Daffodil Tyminski: that she thought that this spot zoning issue was some sort of like weird Trojan horse to get the median project rezone so that they could do that.

3033
05:05:38.940 --> 05:05:49.740
Daffodil Tyminski: But, as I told her three years ago, and I will say now, it was never that this is simply literally about trying to restore the property rights.

3034
05:05:50.130 --> 05:05:58.920
Daffodil Tyminski: That unwitting owners had taken away from them by the city and if you honestly at this point, think otherwise I i've been sad for you.

3035
05:05:59.850 --> 05:06:06.750
Daffodil Tyminski: So I would suggest that the board support this motion and I would suggest that as we're redoing this specific plan and the land use plan and Venice.

3036
05:06:07.020 --> 05:06:17.580
Daffodil Tyminski: We really advocate to support the folks that have for years decades of this point basically just been pawns of a greater political system and have had their rights trumped on.

3037
05:06:20.250 --> 05:06:21.240
james murez: Thank you i'm.

3038
05:06:22.470 --> 05:06:25.290
Mike Bravo: i'm sorry Jim what was that reason why there was no timer on that.

3039
05:06:25.830 --> 05:06:30.480
james murez: yeah because everybody said, take the time are all everybody's had a chance to speak we're not.

3040
05:06:30.840 --> 05:06:35.580
Mike Bravo: You know, and just and that's the deal i'm really disappointed, you know I know you're passionate about the issue too, but.

3041
05:06:36.090 --> 05:06:41.070
Mike Bravo: Allow the snide remarks and these little insults to people insulting their intelligence that's really not cool.

3042
05:06:41.700 --> 05:06:55.380
Mike Bravo: You know I know we're all tired like I said let's be mindful of how we were talking to each other, you know, everybody has their own mind their own way that they go about discerning how to vote, and what situation is too, so you know, please be more aware of that, please, thank you.

3043
05:06:55.830 --> 05:07:05.820
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm Mike i'm not at all tired and actually for anyone that feels that their property rights have been taken against them taken away from them by the state in any way or the people in any way.

3044
05:07:06.090 --> 05:07:11.580
Daffodil Tyminski: I would think of all people you'd have a lot more sympathy and understanding of what these property owners went through.

3045
05:07:12.420 --> 05:07:12.900
Mike Bravo: Nothing too.

3046
05:07:14.730 --> 05:07:15.510
Daffodil Tyminski: Tired at all.

3047
05:07:15.630 --> 05:07:18.960
Mike Bravo: love this character, Mr miss configuration of people have.

3048
05:07:19.080 --> 05:07:20.460
james murez: experienced that myself to.

3049
05:07:20.640 --> 05:07:22.140
Mike Bravo: lead on a call either let's let's.

3050
05:07:22.170 --> 05:07:28.200
james murez: let's let's let's stop the Cross talk, let me continue to get through the hands, we got two more hands that are up.

3051
05:07:29.310 --> 05:07:30.570
james murez: Melissa go ahead, please.

3052
05:07:32.250 --> 05:07:43.440
melissadiner: Oh yeah, I just wanted to point out that there was a 191 page document sent to the whole board in regards to this topic on the.

3053
05:07:43.830 --> 05:07:44.190
Alley Bean: team.

3054
05:07:44.610 --> 05:07:45.330
Alley Bean: We all read it.

3055
05:07:48.570 --> 05:07:52.860
melissadiner: Please finishing my comment, I just wanted to make sure everybody saw that as.

3056
05:07:52.860 --> 05:08:03.240
melissadiner: Like additional documentation on this for those of you that may have missed it and then in terms of what I just wanted to also like think some of the people that just spoke.

3057
05:08:03.780 --> 05:08:15.540
melissadiner: for giving I think a lot of us more insight on to this and then in terms of like everyone demanding that they see things I think we just need to be even handed on both sides of what we ask of both the public.

3058
05:08:16.080 --> 05:08:23.520
melissadiner: And the board, you know i've in the past have been crucified for posting something with people's information.

3059
05:08:24.360 --> 05:08:36.870
melissadiner: On it only to be demanded of it tonight that I post it with people's information publicly so let's just get it straight, I have no problem posting things without information redacted but if we're going to make that a rule let's make it a rule and clean it up, thank you.

3060
05:08:38.550 --> 05:08:43.680
james murez: Thank you i'm less speaker i'm Elizabeth clay, please.

3061
05:08:45.300 --> 05:08:46.530
james murez: let's i'm putting your hand down.

3062
05:08:48.210 --> 05:08:49.410
Alley Bean: you're muted Elizabeth.

3063
05:08:49.500 --> 05:09:01.140
Elizabeth Clay: You, I know I know I know my mutes jumping over around the screen Okay, so a few things just a reminder to everybody and robert's rules of order exist, you seem to have.

3064
05:09:01.650 --> 05:09:09.060
Elizabeth Clay: As a board forgotten it tonight, and we do have to respect the the President who's trying to conduct a meeting.

3065
05:09:09.390 --> 05:09:16.170
Elizabeth Clay: I had my hand up a lot of times and because a bunch of you were interjecting and arguing eventually just put my hand down, I never got an opportunity to speak.

3066
05:09:16.620 --> 05:09:28.110
Elizabeth Clay: So I would ask that people be respectful, especially the old guard, you seem to jump in with absolutely no regard for the rules of conduct, so please take note of that.

3067
05:09:29.460 --> 05:09:43.200
Elizabeth Clay: Moving forward, we have to be an objective board and that means not know defamation of character not villain icing stakeholders that's very, very important again.

3068
05:09:43.800 --> 05:10:04.860
Elizabeth Clay: That goes that goes to the role that you adopted you agreed to sign up for, and you know when I hear even board members commenting about what people have done, and you know it's it's all it's all subjective conjecture We just have to drop that from the vocabulary and I would hope that.

3069
05:10:06.240 --> 05:10:15.180
Elizabeth Clay: Going forward, Jim you know step in and and just stop that talk because we represent the stakeholders in the best way possible, every time.

3070
05:10:16.050 --> 05:10:32.850
Elizabeth Clay: So when we're looking at a decision like this, this is not about our subjective viewpoint about owners, this is us, looking at the highest and best use of zoning for this area, and I think if you look at these corridors and you think about what the best uses.

3071
05:10:33.990 --> 05:10:43.830
Elizabeth Clay: you'll you'll probably realize that owners will naturally adopt the highest and best use for the area because that's people want to make sure that their property value.

3072
05:10:44.520 --> 05:10:57.060
Elizabeth Clay: remains in in order for the area and mixed uses is a pretty obvious use for this area, and I think that's if we can allow them the opportunity that's where it'll go in the future.

3073
05:10:57.540 --> 05:11:03.660
Elizabeth Clay: And we have seen mixed use with affordable housing, so I know that.

3074
05:11:04.350 --> 05:11:17.220
Elizabeth Clay: Whatever happens they'll go through the due process and there'll be the usual suspects who will put them through a long, long, arduous road and i'm sure affordable housing will work its way in there, even for those who say it wouldn't.

3075
05:11:18.330 --> 05:11:30.330
Elizabeth Clay: i've never met Jason teague, but I think that he was he put affordable units in to his proposed project, so it doesn't rule out affordable housing in the area.

3076
05:11:30.840 --> 05:11:45.420
Elizabeth Clay: I think it offers some creative options, and I really think that artists loss that's a wonderful idea for the area so anyway let's just be more mindful of our approach and how we look at land use planning.

3077
05:11:47.160 --> 05:11:53.550
Elizabeth Clay: that's that's pretty much it and I just hope that we can resolve to be more objective moving forward.

3078
05:11:54.300 --> 05:12:05.220
james murez: Thank you um okay so everybody's had a chance to speak, it is now five minutes after 11 I think we probably want to finish this item and then call it a night it's getting late.

3079
05:12:08.910 --> 05:12:11.190
james murez: Let me see if I can figure out how to do this.

3080
05:12:12.390 --> 05:12:13.410
CJ Cole: All about.

3081
05:12:13.740 --> 05:12:17.760
james murez: yeah that's what we're going to do, I just have my screen straightened out here.

3082
05:12:22.200 --> 05:12:25.380
james murez: can see what's going on, because everybody see that.

3083
05:12:27.150 --> 05:12:28.320
james murez: My screen share backup.

3084
05:12:29.400 --> 05:12:31.530
james murez: Yes, so we're calling for the vote.

3085
05:12:33.810 --> 05:12:35.250
james murez: I assume everybody's still here.

3086
05:12:36.270 --> 05:12:37.680
james murez: Okay daffodil.

3087
05:12:40.500 --> 05:12:40.950
Yes.

3088
05:12:43.770 --> 05:12:44.400
james murez: Melissa.

3089
05:12:45.960 --> 05:12:46.350
melissadiner: Yes.

3090
05:12:48.120 --> 05:12:48.870
james murez: andres.

3091
05:12:49.560 --> 05:12:50.070
stain.

3092
05:12:54.120 --> 05:12:54.660
james murez: leak.

3093
05:13:04.230 --> 05:13:05.070
james murez: she's still here.

3094
05:13:13.980 --> 05:13:15.420
james murez: Come back okay vicki.

3095
05:13:16.140 --> 05:13:16.620
Yes.

3096
05:13:18.330 --> 05:13:18.960
james murez: Bruno.

3097
05:13:19.290 --> 05:13:19.830
Yes.

3098
05:13:21.870 --> 05:13:22.470
Bruno Hernandez: NICO.

3099
05:13:24.060 --> 05:13:24.600
Nico Ruderman: Oh yes.

3100
05:13:25.350 --> 05:13:30.630
james murez: I think Sema did you come back Sema yes oh I got a clock you back in sorry.

3101
05:13:53.250 --> 05:13:57.750
james murez: Sema, how do you go, yes, yes okay.

3102
05:14:00.420 --> 05:14:01.080
james murez: Jim rob.

3103
05:14:01.650 --> 05:14:02.160
know.

3104
05:14:04.470 --> 05:14:06.090
james murez: Stan a scam left.

3105
05:14:08.010 --> 05:14:08.610
james murez: Jason.

3106
05:14:09.330 --> 05:14:09.870
know.

3107
05:14:11.730 --> 05:14:12.180
james murez: Ali.

3108
05:14:14.880 --> 05:14:15.360
Alley Bean: know.

3109
05:14:16.710 --> 05:14:17.130
james murez: hi.

3110
05:14:17.460 --> 05:14:18.150
Yes.

3111
05:14:19.560 --> 05:14:20.460
james murez: Like bravo.

3112
05:14:21.150 --> 05:14:21.600
No.

3113
05:14:22.890 --> 05:14:23.520
james murez: soul it out.

3114
05:14:23.940 --> 05:14:25.560
soledad ursua: Yes, yes.

3115
05:14:26.130 --> 05:14:27.720
CJ Cole: cj yeah.

3116
05:14:30.030 --> 05:14:30.750
james murez: Elizabeth.

3117
05:14:31.830 --> 05:14:32.430
Elizabeth Clay: Yes.

3118
05:14:33.600 --> 05:14:34.080
james murez: Robert.

3119
05:14:34.440 --> 05:14:35.010
Yes.

3120
05:14:36.480 --> 05:14:37.830
clark brown: Clark yes.

3121
05:14:38.790 --> 05:14:42.210
james murez: And i'm going to vote yes, also a leak, did you come back.

3122
05:14:45.270 --> 05:14:47.820
james murez: there's a leak here can anybody see I can't see it on my screen.

3123
05:14:49.800 --> 05:14:52.110
robertthibodeau: looks like she's here but she's muted.

3124
05:14:53.340 --> 05:14:54.150
james murez: ELISE.

3125
05:14:54.180 --> 05:14:55.590
Alley Bean: You want it is.

3126
05:14:57.540 --> 05:14:59.820
james murez: A leak, you want to vote on this.

3127
05:15:02.250 --> 05:15:03.960
james murez: Okay, so I guess she's just absent.

3128
05:15:05.700 --> 05:15:07.470
Abstaining we'll just leave it blank.

3129
05:15:08.490 --> 05:15:16.200
james murez: So the motion carries 12 to five to one and one person is not here scan was not here either.

3130
05:15:18.120 --> 05:15:20.160
CJ Cole: To make a motion that we adjourn.

3131
05:15:20.880 --> 05:15:21.210
soledad ursua: I will.

3132
05:15:25.380 --> 05:15:25.740
soledad ursua: See.

3133
05:15:26.130 --> 05:15:28.560
soledad ursua: In a motion to adjourn I second today.

3134
05:15:28.620 --> 05:15:30.480
soledad ursua: The solid at it's 11 or nine.

3135
05:15:30.990 --> 05:15:31.710
robertthibodeau: altered it.

3136
05:15:32.130 --> 05:15:34.140
james murez: Okay um.

3137
05:15:35.940 --> 05:15:40.140
james murez: yeah yeah maybe 348 okay so we're done.

3138
05:15:40.860 --> 05:15:41.550
Sima Kostovetsky: good night.

3139
05:15:41.760 --> 05:15:43.200
james murez: Thank you bye everybody.

3140
05:15:44.190 --> 05:15:45.030
james murez: Happy holidays.

3141
05:15:46.800 --> 05:15:47.550
CJ Cole: Everyone.

3142
05:15:47.820 --> 05:15:48.660
Nico Ruderman: yep matter.

3143
05:15:50.700 --> 05:15:51.060
Jason Sugars: You know.

3144
05:15:51.240 --> 05:15:53.340
Ivan: Okay, Jim before you sign off.

3145
05:15:53.490 --> 05:15:54.060
james murez: Yes.

3146
05:15:54.630 --> 05:16:01.290
Ivan: All right, um you, you make sure that there's a record of what things you didn't do.

3147
05:16:01.710 --> 05:16:06.120
Ivan: Yes, those those will go under old business if the next agenda.

3148
05:16:06.360 --> 05:16:10.890
james murez: understood and the and the new tool that new tool allows me to import those really easily.

3149
05:16:10.950 --> 05:16:13.440
Ivan: Okay, great I just make sure somebody.

3150
05:16:13.830 --> 05:16:15.000
james murez: know, and I know that.

3151
05:16:15.060 --> 05:16:16.590
melissadiner: It also took minutes.

3152
05:16:16.620 --> 05:16:20.040
melissadiner: This whole time to ensure there wasn't any problems with the new.

3153
05:16:20.040 --> 05:16:22.140
melissadiner: series um so we're good and.

3154
05:16:22.350 --> 05:16:22.770
So.

3155
05:16:24.150 --> 05:16:24.990
Ivan: I think that.

3156
05:16:31.440 --> 05:16:34.890
Ivan: Yes, then we have record of both of those duplicated jim's.

3157
05:16:36.300 --> 05:16:37.440
james murez: yeah and and.

3158
05:16:37.890 --> 05:16:41.490
Ivan: Melissa those have to go with told bits of the sort, so for the next.

3159
05:16:41.490 --> 05:16:45.900
james murez: Meeting right and Melissa number 18 goes to ocean front walk.

3160
05:16:47.280 --> 05:16:59.460
james murez: In with a question about that the items that came off of consent that are going on don't old business for next time I assume that they would come at the end of old business.

3161
05:17:00.810 --> 05:17:02.790
Ivan: If those old business comes.

3162
05:17:02.820 --> 05:17:04.470
james murez: Before, no, no, wait wait wait.

3163
05:17:04.500 --> 05:17:09.570
james murez: timeout timeout you didn't understand, we have some items that we did not hear it all.

3164
05:17:09.870 --> 05:17:10.770
james murez: Anyway, from.

3165
05:17:10.800 --> 05:17:18.120
james murez: I think it was everything after 20 nights it'd be whatever I think we heard 30 or 31 but there was still 3233 whatever.

3166
05:17:18.360 --> 05:17:22.350
james murez: yeah so those items are going to come first, on old business.

3167
05:17:22.590 --> 05:17:24.810
james murez: And then the items that were pulled off.

3168
05:17:25.260 --> 05:17:26.640
james murez: are going to come after that.

3169
05:17:27.210 --> 05:17:32.580
Ivan: Right that's fine the old business goes before any new business.

3170
05:17:33.300 --> 05:17:36.150
Ivan: Okay that's to make sure they don't get walks.

3171
05:17:36.660 --> 05:17:41.730
james murez: Elizabeth is your hand up for a reason Okay, no, no it's fine i'm just.

3172
05:17:41.850 --> 05:17:43.380
Ivan: Okay i'll talk to you tomorrow.

3173
05:17:43.800 --> 05:17:44.520
james murez: Thank you.

3174
05:17:44.550 --> 05:17:47.010
clark brown: Thank you everyone Clark question.

3175
05:17:47.100 --> 05:17:54.510
clark brown: yeah for purposes of clarity 3434 and 35, for instance, will be old business Is that correct.

3176
05:17:54.690 --> 05:17:55.350
Ivan: that's correct.

3177
05:17:55.410 --> 05:17:59.670
james murez: back and they will come before the items that were taken off of.

3178
05:17:59.670 --> 05:18:00.330
consent.

3179
05:18:02.340 --> 05:18:02.820
james murez: Okay.

3180
05:18:03.420 --> 05:18:04.650
clark brown: Yes, okay.

3181
05:18:05.460 --> 05:18:06.240
james murez: audrey go ahead.

3182
05:18:07.800 --> 05:18:09.150
james murez: Did you want to say something.

3183
05:18:10.080 --> 05:18:11.400
james murez: Historical ability certain know.

3184
05:18:12.720 --> 05:18:13.590
james murez: Happy holidays.

3185
05:18:13.770 --> 05:18:14.580
Andrea Boccaletti: Thank you, same to you.

3186
05:18:15.540 --> 05:18:16.740
vickihalliday: Happy holidays everybody.

3187
05:18:17.100 --> 05:18:17.460
clark brown: All right.

3188
05:18:17.670 --> 05:18:18.180
james murez: Thank you all.

3189
05:18:18.540 --> 05:18:19.680
Andrea Boccaletti: Getting messages from.

3190
05:18:20.520 --> 05:18:21.570
Andrea Boccaletti: Ah, good.

3191
05:18:21.630 --> 05:18:28.980
james murez: Job i'm gonna have to go back and look at that I, you know there were too many things happening, but anyway, we got through it.

3192
05:18:29.310 --> 05:18:31.980
james murez: Okay i'm sure there's gonna be plenty of complaints.

3193
05:18:33.330 --> 05:18:33.780
james murez: Can I.

3194
05:18:34.020 --> 05:18:34.350
tonight.