WEBVTT 1 00:00:15.269 --> 00:00:20.130 james murez: hey Pat, are you a committee Member raise your hand if you're a committee Member. 2 00:00:22.290 --> 00:00:23.640 james murez: Oh there's vicki she is a. 3 00:00:28.620 --> 00:00:29.760 james murez: nurse frank great. 4 00:00:34.170 --> 00:00:36.870 james murez: frank i'm promoting you as soon as it lets me. 5 00:00:38.580 --> 00:00:39.090 Vicki Halliday: again. 6 00:00:39.450 --> 00:00:46.170 james murez: I vicki okay so frank was promoted what i'll do is i'll make both you and frank co hosts. 7 00:00:46.500 --> 00:00:47.190 Vicki Halliday: Thank you. 8 00:00:47.700 --> 00:00:55.470 james murez: And i'm in the middle of a different meeting with somebody else on another law and so i'm going to just promote the two of you. 9 00:00:55.980 --> 00:00:57.870 Vicki Halliday: that's fine i'll wrangle it. 10 00:00:58.080 --> 00:01:00.240 james murez: Make screen sharing possible. 11 00:01:01.920 --> 00:01:03.780 james murez: And then i'm going to step out. 12 00:01:04.290 --> 00:01:05.040 Vicki Halliday: okey okey. 13 00:01:05.640 --> 00:01:11.130 james murez: So you're both co hosts now yeah and you're both sharing you both able to share screen. 14 00:01:12.360 --> 00:01:13.980 james murez: Okay, you guys should be good. 15 00:01:14.310 --> 00:01:16.200 Vicki Halliday: No problem, thank you very much. 16 00:01:16.710 --> 00:01:17.700 james murez: Thank you. 17 00:01:19.800 --> 00:01:20.400 james murez: hi frank. 18 00:01:20.640 --> 00:01:24.390 james murez: frank hey guys, did you see that I sent you a. 19 00:01:25.410 --> 00:01:25.890 james murez: A. 20 00:01:27.090 --> 00:01:28.020 james murez: New request. 21 00:01:30.330 --> 00:01:31.290 frank murphy: A new request. 22 00:01:31.350 --> 00:01:33.420 james murez: yeah there was one that came in today. 23 00:01:35.670 --> 00:01:39.210 james murez: That that I sent to your email address. 24 00:01:40.530 --> 00:01:41.760 frank murphy: To the vm see one. 25 00:01:41.880 --> 00:01:43.230 frank murphy: yeah yeah. 26 00:01:43.350 --> 00:01:44.910 james murez: I mentioned it, because of that. 27 00:01:45.720 --> 00:01:47.790 frank murphy: I didn't see it i'll check it out. 28 00:01:47.940 --> 00:01:52.380 james murez: Okay yeah yeah it's too late for this one, it will have to it, some some. 29 00:01:54.360 --> 00:01:59.280 james murez: Some deal that you know, has to be filed with city council or something, but the time. 30 00:02:00.420 --> 00:02:00.870 frank murphy: All right. 31 00:02:00.990 --> 00:02:02.760 james murez: they'll rush all right good to see you all. 32 00:02:03.090 --> 00:02:03.240 know. 33 00:02:04.980 --> 00:02:07.290 james murez: i'll be back later, hopefully, I can catch the end of your meeting. 34 00:02:08.670 --> 00:02:09.390 frank murphy: All right. 35 00:02:15.390 --> 00:02:17.880 frank murphy: I always forget to check that there is. 36 00:02:21.180 --> 00:02:22.350 frank murphy: Darrell dovey. 37 00:02:23.670 --> 00:02:25.410 frank murphy: Usually takes up all my. 38 00:02:26.550 --> 00:02:27.240 frank murphy: space. 39 00:02:28.260 --> 00:02:28.650 frank murphy: hey. 40 00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:31.170 frank murphy: how's it happening. 41 00:02:33.390 --> 00:02:34.260 Pat Raphael: yeah this is. 42 00:02:38.580 --> 00:02:41.100 Pat Raphael: more comfortable settings I guess. 43 00:02:41.790 --> 00:02:42.600 frank murphy: Where yeah. 44 00:02:43.140 --> 00:02:45.810 Pat Raphael: i'm in dino's in supposed to. 45 00:02:47.730 --> 00:02:52.650 Pat Raphael: have to get a shower and so opportunity presented itself. 46 00:02:53.430 --> 00:02:54.090 frank murphy: Take it. 47 00:02:56.190 --> 00:02:56.670 Pat Raphael: yep. 48 00:02:56.850 --> 00:02:58.380 frank murphy: So, as a result of. 49 00:02:58.380 --> 00:03:04.020 Pat Raphael: The most of the meetings gonna be all video but i'll be here, paying attention. 50 00:03:06.180 --> 00:03:06.810 frank murphy: All right. 51 00:03:09.180 --> 00:03:15.600 frank murphy: We got it looks like can I Catherine cat drop down. 52 00:03:17.370 --> 00:03:17.730 Pat Raphael: arrow. 53 00:03:23.760 --> 00:03:24.330 Pat Raphael: well. 54 00:03:24.390 --> 00:03:28.140 Pat Raphael: Technology issue or any reason why she dropped out. 55 00:03:28.920 --> 00:03:35.070 frank murphy: No, I think she she just said she had something else that came up on, let me see when I got a text. 56 00:03:57.300 --> 00:04:02.010 frank murphy: Due to some unforeseen things coming up, I won't be able to make it tonight, so that was. 57 00:04:04.650 --> 00:04:07.890 frank murphy: cool and it'll be a little late so keep an eye out for. 58 00:04:07.890 --> 00:04:10.740 Vicki Halliday: Her watch word frank now watch the others. 59 00:04:12.780 --> 00:04:14.190 Pat Raphael: Any word from Eric. 60 00:04:15.750 --> 00:04:21.630 frank murphy: No word from Eric though I did talk to them and I got his emails so he said he doesn't have any. 61 00:04:21.630 --> 00:04:26.940 frank murphy: problem with the email, you know catching up so hopefully. 62 00:04:28.680 --> 00:04:31.200 frank murphy: I just talked to him yesterday, so we should be good. 63 00:04:31.980 --> 00:04:37.020 Pat Raphael: Alright sounds good sounds good, because this is a good instinct I wouldn't want us to. 64 00:04:39.060 --> 00:04:48.330 Pat Raphael: You know not go forward with these kind of opportunities for people to come in and speak directly if this one doesn't go as smoothly as we planned. 65 00:04:48.720 --> 00:04:57.210 Vicki Halliday: yeah I don't think we can do it every time Pat, but I think that you know, a couple of times a year it's a very interesting thing to do. 66 00:04:57.930 --> 00:05:03.210 frank murphy: Well, I think, also it's a something that we got to develop a trust pattern on. 67 00:05:04.380 --> 00:05:19.470 frank murphy: um I don't know if anybody's run into that I think that you were talking about that, to some degree Stan was talking about, it also was that you know people still want to come in and they're gonna get you know land blasted and. 68 00:05:20.610 --> 00:05:23.700 frank murphy: And so that was, you know that was an issue hey Clark. 69 00:05:24.570 --> 00:05:26.430 clark brown: always takes me two tries to get in. 70 00:05:27.120 --> 00:05:27.570 frank murphy: Oh yeah. 71 00:05:28.800 --> 00:05:33.000 clark brown: Do a shut it down and join a second time. 72 00:05:33.540 --> 00:05:34.530 frank murphy: you and me both. 73 00:05:36.450 --> 00:05:42.300 frank murphy: But anyhow, so I thought, maybe if we did it if maybe in a truncated form a little bit more. 74 00:05:47.250 --> 00:05:55.080 frank murphy: You know not trying to get too many folks in there, you know I would have liked to have had four or five but we didn't get that. 75 00:05:55.440 --> 00:05:56.070 frank murphy: that's fine. 76 00:05:56.430 --> 00:05:57.510 Vicki Halliday: The first time. 77 00:05:57.810 --> 00:05:59.730 frank murphy: yeah but we're only going to. 78 00:06:02.280 --> 00:06:10.050 Pat Raphael: Just because it's the first time and it didn't come out perfect doesn't mean we shouldn't try it out at least one or two. 79 00:06:10.470 --> 00:06:11.520 frank murphy: Times oh yeah yeah yeah. 80 00:06:13.710 --> 00:06:14.640 frank murphy: yeah definitely. 81 00:06:18.090 --> 00:06:19.080 frank murphy: it's good good. 82 00:06:19.680 --> 00:06:24.000 Ansar Muhammad: All right, happy thanksgiving and happy holidays to everybody. 83 00:06:24.750 --> 00:06:27.780 frank murphy: yeah yeah yeah YouTube. 84 00:06:29.190 --> 00:06:29.640 frank murphy: yep. 85 00:06:31.800 --> 00:06:32.850 Brian U.: And he said. 86 00:06:35.490 --> 00:06:36.480 Brian U.: How you doing my friend. 87 00:06:36.990 --> 00:06:39.420 Ansar Muhammad: i'm doing pretty good man good to see you guys. 88 00:06:39.720 --> 00:06:43.620 Brian U.: must be saying haven't gotten a call from an encampment from you in a week. 89 00:06:44.070 --> 00:06:45.360 Ansar Muhammad: that's a good move. 90 00:06:46.170 --> 00:06:48.090 Brian U.: yeah yeah you. 91 00:06:52.740 --> 00:06:58.650 Brian U.: wonder if that lady that called from electric and adventurous anything happened with her. 92 00:06:59.250 --> 00:07:01.620 Brian U.: I told her boyfriend to go to West Chester part. 93 00:07:02.910 --> 00:07:07.680 Ansar Muhammad: I haven't heard my monitor that's been on their site haven't told me anything different. 94 00:07:09.540 --> 00:07:15.690 Ansar Muhammad: You know, whenever I do find somebody that might be interesting, you know always pass them along you know. 95 00:07:16.440 --> 00:07:19.230 Brian U.: i'm happy to take those calls from there yeah. 96 00:07:22.710 --> 00:07:25.110 Brian U.: If you see in westchester park there's not a 10 minute. 97 00:07:25.890 --> 00:07:33.780 Ansar Muhammad: I haven't seen it this past week, but where did all the people go, because a lot of lot of minutes folks was concerned that several several calls. 98 00:07:36.240 --> 00:07:37.230 Ansar Muhammad: minutes so. 99 00:07:38.460 --> 00:07:44.220 Brian U.: I think they the motel six the adventure hotel both on century boulevard. 100 00:07:45.630 --> 00:07:47.130 Brian U.: was pretty much the majority. 101 00:07:51.360 --> 00:07:53.250 Brian U.: And we'll see how that goes. 102 00:07:54.150 --> 00:07:54.660 yeah. 103 00:07:59.790 --> 00:08:02.850 Brian U.: I mean it's just it's just an optics change, you know. 104 00:08:02.940 --> 00:08:04.980 Brian U.: yeah yeah you know. 105 00:08:07.980 --> 00:08:09.510 Ansar Muhammad: things going to rip the chemical to. 106 00:08:10.800 --> 00:08:13.350 Brian U.: Now they extended to the end of this month they're out. 107 00:08:13.980 --> 00:08:14.730 Ansar Muhammad: whoa whoa. 108 00:08:16.620 --> 00:08:17.550 whoa, no less. 109 00:08:20.490 --> 00:08:21.210 Ansar Muhammad: well. 110 00:08:21.630 --> 00:08:22.170 Pat Raphael: Today you. 111 00:08:23.910 --> 00:08:26.040 Brian U.: Know December, the end of the month. 112 00:08:26.520 --> 00:08:26.820 Oh. 113 00:08:29.280 --> 00:08:33.150 Brian U.: You know the service service that the the guy that has the least see. 114 00:08:33.480 --> 00:08:33.930 Ansar Muhammad: yeah. 115 00:08:34.230 --> 00:08:38.670 Brian U.: It just depends on on international travel and bookings I mean. 116 00:08:39.690 --> 00:08:52.530 Brian U.: Call Lambert is is got a lot of business and and the rats for rooms down on the bed of sweets or 202 50 according to him, and you know the cadillacs hitting 103 at night so. 117 00:08:56.220 --> 00:09:02.700 Brian U.: So there's no reason you're going to stay in that program unless you unless you can't make up the difference so. 118 00:09:03.180 --> 00:09:05.640 Vicki Halliday: Unless we get shut down with this new variant. 119 00:09:06.180 --> 00:09:06.840 yeah. 120 00:09:07.950 --> 00:09:08.400 frank murphy: yeah. 121 00:09:09.360 --> 00:09:11.850 Vicki Halliday: that'll change the hotel situation. 122 00:09:12.420 --> 00:09:21.180 Brian U.: You know, and I also think it's just it's convenient for the owner, because he wasn't as hands on as those normal hotels are driving revenue or any of that kind of stuff. 123 00:09:21.690 --> 00:09:36.510 Brian U.: So it's almost kind of easier for him because he's only got to clean rooms twice a week, no matter what damage they do, they have to replace and re fix up every room to normal wear and tear so you know he gets 150 grand a month just. 124 00:09:37.770 --> 00:09:39.270 Brian U.: sit back so. 125 00:09:41.100 --> 00:09:41.610 Brian U.: anyway. 126 00:09:44.460 --> 00:09:45.180 Ansar Muhammad: number. 127 00:09:45.690 --> 00:09:46.740 frank murphy: No man. 128 00:09:47.520 --> 00:09:52.230 Ansar Muhammad: No, is it is it i'm assuming this is beers as needed right now right. 129 00:09:53.280 --> 00:09:54.150 Brian U.: it's what. 130 00:09:54.240 --> 00:09:56.700 Ansar Muhammad: bears bears faces needed right now. 131 00:09:57.090 --> 00:10:13.860 Brian U.: Well, the beds are needing needed but you know again you you've had a project room key that's never supposed to last long the project home key is more the permanent you know the hotels that they buy, but the only one, they bought in our area is the ramada. 132 00:10:16.050 --> 00:10:19.650 Brian U.: And i'm not sure where any of the others that have been bought. 133 00:10:20.730 --> 00:10:25.260 Brian U.: Are I know they moved a lot of people into downtown at the Sheraton grand. 134 00:10:26.430 --> 00:10:28.530 Brian U.: downtime that was like 300 rooms. 135 00:10:29.790 --> 00:10:31.020 Brian U.: So there are people that are. 136 00:10:31.290 --> 00:10:38.610 Brian U.: Really, the critical part Stan is that they offered to go into the hotel with the voucher saying once we get you out will give you the voucher. 137 00:10:39.480 --> 00:10:55.020 Brian U.: We have we have trouble putting people into shared collaborative housing, because now they've been promised the apartment and the hotel and the three they're gone I think we'll wait till we get our our apartment so i'll say yeah it's always a moving part. 138 00:10:58.230 --> 00:10:59.700 Ansar Muhammad: very complex. 139 00:11:00.060 --> 00:11:00.390 yeah. 140 00:11:02.850 --> 00:11:04.080 frank murphy: If we lose pat. 141 00:11:05.340 --> 00:11:05.790 Vicki Halliday: Now. 142 00:11:07.410 --> 00:11:09.570 Vicki Halliday: he's there you guys video. 143 00:11:38.100 --> 00:11:39.270 frank murphy: see any of the. 144 00:11:42.390 --> 00:11:43.440 frank murphy: participants. 145 00:11:44.010 --> 00:11:45.300 Vicki Halliday: Now yeah i'm watching. 146 00:11:50.010 --> 00:11:50.850 frank murphy: pieces here. 147 00:11:51.330 --> 00:11:52.740 Vicki Halliday: They still got a few minutes. 148 00:11:56.700 --> 00:11:58.050 Brian U.: They are these people you pick. 149 00:11:59.220 --> 00:12:00.450 Brian U.: From from your stuff. 150 00:12:01.260 --> 00:12:01.950 Ansar Muhammad: That again. 151 00:12:02.940 --> 00:12:05.070 Brian U.: The people that are coming on to the panel. 152 00:12:05.550 --> 00:12:08.970 Ansar Muhammad: was really only one for you may know her her name is love. 153 00:12:10.080 --> 00:12:15.330 Ansar Muhammad: I know pat would nor but she's the only one that really reached out to. 154 00:12:17.280 --> 00:12:19.170 Ansar Muhammad: me or near rose haven't. 155 00:12:21.060 --> 00:12:25.440 Brian U.: I can't remember I couldn't get jack career, I went down looking for. 156 00:12:25.470 --> 00:12:26.820 Brian U.: vicki and I can find a. 157 00:12:26.820 --> 00:12:34.140 Brian U.: Man yeah they won't if you walk into the account they won't let you talk to anybody, they will let you walk in the door to try to get buddy. 158 00:12:34.500 --> 00:12:34.830 Vicki Halliday: yeah. 159 00:12:34.860 --> 00:12:36.420 Brian U.: Because of confidentiality. 160 00:12:37.140 --> 00:12:44.580 Vicki Halliday: it's all very odd at that gate you can't leave a note, even for somebody I tried that once yeah. 161 00:12:46.860 --> 00:12:54.840 frank murphy: Well, we had padded to folks in a cat and Eric and cat had to bail. 162 00:12:56.160 --> 00:12:56.580 frank murphy: Hopefully. 163 00:12:57.390 --> 00:12:58.710 Pat Raphael: now see what's up. 164 00:12:59.730 --> 00:13:00.510 Vicki Halliday: Okay, great. 165 00:13:01.890 --> 00:13:03.660 frank murphy: You want me to call Eric. 166 00:13:04.830 --> 00:13:05.520 frank murphy: Eric on them. 167 00:13:05.640 --> 00:13:06.810 frank murphy: Okay, good good. 168 00:13:09.030 --> 00:13:20.490 frank murphy: And jodi jodi when he joins us he's got one person that he said he might have had his his place, I don't know who, that is. 169 00:13:22.710 --> 00:13:27.090 frank murphy: But it's from the veterans you know the veterans va. 170 00:13:30.990 --> 00:13:34.620 frank murphy: And jodi's from veterans from the va also. 171 00:13:55.080 --> 00:13:58.200 frank murphy: So Clark you're gonna present your. 172 00:14:00.090 --> 00:14:00.540 frank murphy: Your. 173 00:14:02.220 --> 00:14:03.600 frank murphy: Item in motion. 174 00:14:05.550 --> 00:14:07.440 clark brown: that'd be after the round table right. 175 00:14:10.470 --> 00:14:12.720 frank murphy: yeah yeah for the round TIM. 176 00:14:15.570 --> 00:14:19.440 Brian U.: Where are we prepared to have them go first if we don't get these other people on right away frank. 177 00:14:21.210 --> 00:14:22.680 frank murphy: We can change it around. 178 00:14:23.760 --> 00:14:26.460 Pat Raphael: I just thought something online right now. 179 00:14:27.210 --> 00:14:27.690 Okay. 180 00:14:33.960 --> 00:14:36.570 frank murphy: You don't have a number for love, do you answer. 181 00:14:37.080 --> 00:14:41.580 Ansar Muhammad: No, I don't have a number for her, she only gave me her her email address. 182 00:14:41.640 --> 00:14:42.180 frank murphy: All right. 183 00:14:42.780 --> 00:14:43.380 yeah. 184 00:14:53.760 --> 00:14:59.040 Pat Raphael: I might be able to get a phone number for if I do i'll catch up to you, frank. 185 00:15:00.300 --> 00:15:00.840 frank murphy: Okay. 186 00:15:06.210 --> 00:15:08.040 frank murphy: All right, well let's. 187 00:15:09.720 --> 00:15:11.280 frank murphy: let's get rolling here. 188 00:15:12.660 --> 00:15:13.920 frank murphy: it's seven o'clock. 189 00:15:29.250 --> 00:15:30.330 frank murphy: called order. 190 00:15:31.920 --> 00:15:34.080 frank murphy: will do roll call. 191 00:15:41.190 --> 00:15:41.820 frank murphy: Brian. 192 00:15:42.330 --> 00:15:42.870 Air. 193 00:15:44.910 --> 00:15:47.550 frank murphy: colette's not in yet paths here. 194 00:15:47.880 --> 00:15:50.130 frank murphy: There is Liz Liz. 195 00:15:51.720 --> 00:15:52.410 frank murphy: vicki. 196 00:15:52.890 --> 00:15:54.630 frank murphy: Here Stan. 197 00:15:55.140 --> 00:15:56.730 frank murphy: yeah Clark. 198 00:15:57.060 --> 00:16:02.850 frank murphy: Here God, said that he doesn't have audio so he's kind of have to. 199 00:16:06.150 --> 00:16:21.060 frank murphy: do some sort of a rhydian i'm not quite sure how that's going to get handled so our introduction, for God to go at a later time if you don't mind me adopting the agenda in order to meet that. 200 00:16:22.770 --> 00:16:23.700 frank murphy: i'm. 201 00:16:25.800 --> 00:16:27.420 frank murphy: So. 202 00:16:32.760 --> 00:16:33.810 frank murphy: Typically, we would. 203 00:16:34.980 --> 00:16:38.310 frank murphy: Jim adjusted all of the entries on our. 204 00:16:39.600 --> 00:16:40.320 frank murphy: On our. 205 00:16:42.090 --> 00:16:44.250 frank murphy: on our agenda. 206 00:16:45.300 --> 00:16:51.540 frank murphy: But typically we approve the agenda and we approve the Minutes, the Minutes are posted if you're interested. 207 00:16:52.890 --> 00:16:58.890 frank murphy: We didn't have any votes on the last meeting so, but then the Minutes. 208 00:17:00.330 --> 00:17:05.070 frank murphy: are posted if any does anybody have any objections to the Minutes. 209 00:17:06.480 --> 00:17:07.590 Pat Raphael: No objections. 210 00:17:07.710 --> 00:17:08.280 Brian U.: No i'm. 211 00:17:08.340 --> 00:17:10.260 Brian U.: Actually I moved to a proof. 212 00:17:11.250 --> 00:17:12.420 frank murphy: move to approve. 213 00:17:13.080 --> 00:17:14.040 frank murphy: Any any. 214 00:17:14.580 --> 00:17:16.050 frank murphy: Anybody against that. 215 00:17:18.420 --> 00:17:20.460 frank murphy: you're muted Elizabeth Liz. 216 00:17:24.270 --> 00:17:24.540 Elizabeth Wright: Yes. 217 00:17:24.990 --> 00:17:25.410 Elizabeth Wright: I can do. 218 00:17:25.980 --> 00:17:31.110 frank murphy: Second okay um anybody. 219 00:17:34.770 --> 00:17:35.460 frank murphy: object. 220 00:17:39.150 --> 00:17:41.130 frank murphy: Okay, so that's. 221 00:17:42.420 --> 00:17:47.520 frank murphy: unanimous on that the agenda, as we have it set is. 222 00:17:49.380 --> 00:17:49.890 frank murphy: Is. 223 00:17:52.020 --> 00:17:58.860 frank murphy: we're going to move it around a little bit and kick because folks have may not be able to get on quite as readily as we thought. 224 00:18:01.050 --> 00:18:03.180 frank murphy: So let's. 225 00:18:04.980 --> 00:18:06.600 frank murphy: let's move on up to. 226 00:18:08.100 --> 00:18:09.570 frank murphy: If nobody objects. 227 00:18:11.910 --> 00:18:18.210 frank murphy: We can go to the motion that Clark has and and then pick up the. 228 00:18:18.360 --> 00:18:20.340 frank murphy: pick up the panel after. 229 00:18:20.790 --> 00:18:23.640 frank murphy: We get more folks on online. 230 00:18:24.840 --> 00:18:26.460 frank murphy: Does that sound okay to everybody. 231 00:18:28.500 --> 00:18:29.160 Ansar Muhammad: Yes. 232 00:18:29.400 --> 00:18:29.880 Everything. 233 00:18:31.740 --> 00:18:32.760 frank murphy: Anybody object. 234 00:18:36.330 --> 00:18:36.870 frank murphy: Okay. 235 00:18:40.440 --> 00:18:40.860 Brian U.: Do we have. 236 00:18:40.950 --> 00:18:43.290 Brian U.: To, we have to do, public comment on the agenda. 237 00:18:44.370 --> 00:18:47.100 Vicki Halliday: We need to take public comment before we start any. 238 00:18:47.220 --> 00:18:57.300 frank murphy: Oh i'm sorry yeah okay let's do public comment one one minute each on the non agenda items related to the homelessness committee only. 239 00:18:59.070 --> 00:19:00.480 frank murphy: So. 240 00:19:01.830 --> 00:19:03.930 frank murphy: You got that anybody got their hand up. 241 00:19:04.230 --> 00:19:04.800 nope. 242 00:19:07.860 --> 00:19:09.360 Vicki Halliday: get those hands up for work. 243 00:19:12.750 --> 00:19:21.810 frank murphy: One more time public comment on non agenda items related to homelessness committee only anybody want to speak to that. 244 00:19:25.410 --> 00:19:26.070 Vicki Halliday: No hands. 245 00:19:26.310 --> 00:19:26.880 Brian U.: Okay. 246 00:19:27.870 --> 00:19:33.000 frank murphy: Well let's let's move on that homeless roundtables gotta be moved. 247 00:19:39.330 --> 00:19:41.970 frank murphy: And he's got this in here twice, but that's okay. 248 00:19:44.340 --> 00:19:47.670 frank murphy: I don't know why okay um. 249 00:19:52.650 --> 00:19:57.210 frank murphy: So the new business will be now we're going to move to the. 250 00:20:01.170 --> 00:20:09.330 frank murphy: To the motion that Clark RON has brought up for the committee and. 251 00:20:11.100 --> 00:20:23.130 frank murphy: there's several supporting documents that everybody can read there on the you can just source those from the agenda and Clark. 252 00:20:25.470 --> 00:20:27.090 frank murphy: Why don't you take it away. 253 00:20:28.170 --> 00:20:39.120 clark brown: Okay, well, the motion is to send memorandum through the MC and then to have a B and C forward the memorandum to the city, so I like to. 254 00:20:39.660 --> 00:20:52.950 clark brown: Take a few minutes, just to summarize the memorandum, the purpose of the memo is to help the Venice neighborhood Council meetings responsibilities under Section 910. 255 00:20:53.430 --> 00:21:12.780 clark brown: Of the city to order with respect to homeless services section 910 of the Charter states neighborhood Council should monitor the delivery of city services in their respective areas and have periodic meetings with responsible officials of city departments, subject to their. 256 00:21:13.800 --> 00:21:15.420 clark brown: Reasonable availability. 257 00:21:16.950 --> 00:21:38.820 clark brown: The purpose of the memo is to provide a roadmap for discussing the homeless problem with Bob and his staff and city departments, by identifying specific encampments almost encampments and Venice identifying the ordinances that apply to those encampments. 258 00:21:40.290 --> 00:21:54.840 clark brown: identify procedures, the city must follow to enforce those ordinances and, most importantly, to identify shelter and temporary housing, which must be in place before the city can enforce any of these ordinances. 259 00:21:55.890 --> 00:22:05.220 clark brown: In my experience, basic problem with dealing with bond and and people in the city is it it's very hard to get them to discuss specifics. 260 00:22:05.610 --> 00:22:18.330 clark brown: And the purpose of the memo is to force them or encourage them to discuss specifics, by focusing on specific encampments specific ordinances and shelter opportunities. 261 00:22:19.200 --> 00:22:32.730 clark brown: The memo is not a motion for an ordinance or a resolution to Boston and the City Council rather it's a roadmap for discussions among them, which section 910 of the city charter authorizes. 262 00:22:34.560 --> 00:22:48.990 clark brown: Let me look at review the parts of the memo part two identifies the ordinances which enable the city to prevent people from occupying sidewalks streets in public areas. 263 00:22:50.730 --> 00:23:07.710 clark brown: But all that is subject to the city, been able to provide shelter for the people in these encampments part three of the memo identifies five encampments which violate the ordinances which can only be enforced if the city first provides shelter. 264 00:23:08.790 --> 00:23:20.820 clark brown: part for the ordinance of the memo identifies how the city can provide shelter exhibit three to the memo is a report which the mayor and the. 265 00:23:21.510 --> 00:23:32.550 clark brown: city attorney filed with federal district trudge Carter in the homeless case that's pending before him and report says that, as of. 266 00:23:33.120 --> 00:23:54.960 clark brown: October 15 2021 the data, the data, the mellow the city had 8780 available ads for the homeless and 206 of those available beds were invented and it's not clear from the report, whether these are immediately vacant whether they're just simply available. 267 00:23:59.910 --> 00:24:00.720 Brian U.: We lost you. 268 00:24:01.200 --> 00:24:02.670 frank murphy: mean awesome Clark. 269 00:24:06.780 --> 00:24:07.050 frank murphy: Okay. 270 00:24:08.010 --> 00:24:08.460 Brian U.: There you go. 271 00:24:10.050 --> 00:24:10.530 clark brown: Ah. 272 00:24:12.900 --> 00:24:17.340 clark brown: exhibit moving on from exhibit three, which is the report, which says that. 273 00:24:18.360 --> 00:24:27.930 clark brown: As of the date of the report 1780 beds were available for the homeless in the city and 206 were available in Venice exhibit four to five. 274 00:24:28.620 --> 00:24:40.440 clark brown: To the memo or two large vacant parcels of land which the city owns near la so these parcels were former subdivisions it's a bit of abandoned and they have. 275 00:24:42.090 --> 00:24:57.120 clark brown: They have roads, and they have a utility lines for water, electricity and sewer so these would be perfect parcels for for tense and for rv and eventually for. 276 00:24:58.560 --> 00:25:19.620 clark brown: palette housing tiny homes CD to which is a custom and Koreans district down the valley has built three tiny villages and to bridge type facilities which are provided 800 beds for homeless people CD 11 can do the same. 277 00:25:20.910 --> 00:25:36.900 clark brown: exhibits six and six, a to the memo or a letter from La X, to the FAA and responding letter from the FAA to La X the letters show that. 278 00:25:37.590 --> 00:25:48.840 clark brown: Both lx and the FAA are willing to discuss using the to wax parcels for for Palin housing, I had served upon the. 279 00:25:49.740 --> 00:26:03.150 clark brown: Upon la X and other departments in the city, a public records request which requires them to produce any documents they have which evidence FAA regulations that would prohibit. 280 00:26:03.930 --> 00:26:21.930 clark brown: Using these two parcels for homeless, housing and number produced the only documents that were produced for these were these two letters were so that both la X and the FAA are willing to discuss development of these two parcels for homeless housing. 281 00:26:25.020 --> 00:26:29.010 clark brown: exhibit seven is the strategy memo. 282 00:26:30.180 --> 00:26:41.340 clark brown: city used for removing the camera from oceanfront walk, and so the the memo shows that the city was successful in doing that because it was able to provide. 283 00:26:42.570 --> 00:26:48.810 clark brown: housing for the people who were there, so the city's done this before they can do it again. 284 00:26:50.610 --> 00:26:51.510 clark brown: exhibit eight. 285 00:26:52.140 --> 00:26:52.950 clark brown: into the mark. 286 00:26:53.010 --> 00:26:56.520 Brian U.: Clark Clark, and ask the question is this is that memo. 287 00:26:57.930 --> 00:27:07.230 Brian U.: For the project that happened two weeks before the St Joseph $5 million project started because isn't this Connie brooks's. 288 00:27:08.340 --> 00:27:09.180 Brian U.: plan vicki. 289 00:27:12.720 --> 00:27:13.200 Brian U.: said. 290 00:27:14.610 --> 00:27:18.630 Brian U.: it's not the same, but just curious because that's. 291 00:27:18.840 --> 00:27:22.770 frank murphy: that's like the Wednesday when we do the committee. 292 00:27:23.250 --> 00:27:24.240 frank murphy: yeah, we need to. 293 00:27:24.780 --> 00:27:26.340 Vicki Halliday: comment before we discuss it. 294 00:27:26.340 --> 00:27:27.630 Brian U.: yeah Thank you sorry. 295 00:27:28.320 --> 00:27:31.110 clark brown: The reason I included it is it's a civil page memo. 296 00:27:32.190 --> 00:27:49.830 clark brown: Which is quite detailed in procedures that sets forth for moving into Canada, which shows that the city has you know, been there and done that, and it won't be reinventing the wheel if it has to if it moves these other encampments once it finds housing for the occupants. 297 00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:59.250 clark brown: exhibit eight shows the city has budgeted $1 billion for homeless services and it's. 298 00:28:00.690 --> 00:28:08.640 clark brown: Budget, so the real estate is there to provide housing for the homeless and we get the money to do it. 299 00:28:10.620 --> 00:28:22.050 clark brown: A memo to bond and does not and cannot require the city to do anything but it can be a first step toward getting the city right thing. 300 00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:32.490 clark brown: In January and June Boston will probably face a recall, and then they primary election if he survives the recall. 301 00:28:33.030 --> 00:28:45.690 clark brown: homelessness is going to be big issue, and in those elections, and so on, and I think has an incentive to do something about this homelessness problem it's also a big issue with the media. 302 00:28:47.010 --> 00:28:56.490 clark brown: la times has six reporters and Congress who have regularly reported on homelessness problems in invest. 303 00:28:57.780 --> 00:29:19.830 clark brown: And you know, we also have a local newspapers Argonaut the beach head of the West side current yo Venice, so this is a big issue for the for media to if there ever was a time to present bonding with a roadmap for specific doable plans to address homelessness in Venice, this is the time. 304 00:29:26.190 --> 00:29:26.880 frank murphy: alright. 305 00:29:29.190 --> 00:29:29.850 Vicki Halliday: comment. 306 00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:39.600 frank murphy: No, do you want to read that just real quick, so your your motion is you're requesting. 307 00:29:40.680 --> 00:29:54.690 frank murphy: That I wasn't quite clear, I hear all your your memos but your motion is to approve and send the following memos and supporting documents to the list of people below right. 308 00:29:54.990 --> 00:29:59.430 clark brown: Yes, that's correct and that's that's bonding and. 309 00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:04.590 clark brown: Other people in the departments, who are responsible for. 310 00:30:05.880 --> 00:30:06.510 clark brown: las. 311 00:30:06.810 --> 00:30:08.400 frank murphy: who's on your list yes. 312 00:30:09.330 --> 00:30:10.890 clark brown: Definitely homelessness. 313 00:30:12.000 --> 00:30:16.080 Brian U.: Can we get the homeless, can we add the homeless and poverty committee for the La city council. 314 00:30:16.470 --> 00:30:17.310 Brian U.: to that list. 315 00:30:17.790 --> 00:30:21.090 frank murphy: Will can take that up, but our comment period. 316 00:30:22.920 --> 00:30:27.060 frank murphy: um okay so let's go to public comments. 317 00:30:29.070 --> 00:30:32.160 frank murphy: If you have a comment, please put your hands up. 318 00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:50.400 Vicki Halliday: I see one hold on here phone number ending in 337. 319 00:30:53.520 --> 00:30:53.940 Vicki Halliday: hi. 320 00:30:58.470 --> 00:30:59.130 1310****337: Hello. 321 00:30:59.910 --> 00:31:02.010 Vicki Halliday: Yes, hi hi. 322 00:31:02.880 --> 00:31:04.980 1310****337: hi um. 323 00:31:06.600 --> 00:31:14.250 1310****337: So this is a public comment, yes um I had a question regarding this memo that was just. 324 00:31:15.810 --> 00:31:17.520 1310****337: gone over so is. 325 00:31:20.100 --> 00:31:33.900 1310****337: This i'm supposed to be like the workings of some type of roadmap to be sent to the councilmen then my correct in saying that yes. 326 00:31:35.940 --> 00:31:37.290 1310****337: Okay, thank you. 327 00:31:38.100 --> 00:31:38.670 Vicki Halliday: Thank you. 328 00:31:40.500 --> 00:31:42.570 Vicki Halliday: Next up Lisa redmond. 329 00:31:54.690 --> 00:31:55.200 frank murphy: Lisa. 330 00:32:01.770 --> 00:32:04.530 Pat Raphael: Maybe she lost her and I don't see it anymore. 331 00:32:04.980 --> 00:32:05.250 yeah. 332 00:32:06.990 --> 00:32:08.880 frank murphy: She fell off line, I think. 333 00:32:10.140 --> 00:32:11.820 frank murphy: I don't see her on the list. 334 00:32:17.220 --> 00:32:18.540 frank murphy: mm hmm there, she has. 335 00:32:20.040 --> 00:32:21.300 Vicki Halliday: their hands not up. 336 00:32:21.780 --> 00:32:22.260 Okay. 337 00:32:24.060 --> 00:32:24.600 frank murphy: All right. 338 00:32:26.700 --> 00:32:28.770 frank murphy: One last call anybody else want to. 339 00:32:30.300 --> 00:32:31.200 frank murphy: put their hand up. 340 00:32:34.020 --> 00:32:34.560 frank murphy: All right. 341 00:32:35.670 --> 00:32:38.460 frank murphy: let's go to committee then committee discussion. 342 00:32:40.080 --> 00:32:47.250 frank murphy: So, Brian you, you had some about adding extra people to the list of notification. 343 00:32:48.210 --> 00:32:59.010 Brian U.: I just think it would be important to add the homeless and poverty committee to the distribution to perhaps the Chair used to be marker they Thomas, I think it's now staley on. 344 00:32:59.700 --> 00:33:07.530 Brian U.: Ah, is now the Chair of the homeless and poverty committee of the La City Council and I just think there's there's no harm done. 345 00:33:08.280 --> 00:33:16.350 Brian U.: right because we're talking about homelessness that that's where it should go it's not going around mike's back it's just it's just another it's another group that would. 346 00:33:17.970 --> 00:33:22.350 Brian U.: need to know about this, because they all do they're the ones that help practice. 347 00:33:27.420 --> 00:33:28.110 frank murphy: Okay. 348 00:33:31.050 --> 00:33:36.450 frank murphy: Any other comments on me from the Committee on on this. 349 00:33:41.640 --> 00:33:47.460 Vicki Halliday: makarkin I talked about this, I mean I have very mixed feelings about it um. 350 00:33:49.440 --> 00:34:02.520 Vicki Halliday: I don't know that I agree with the use of the specifics and trying to do a roadmap, I think it it gets pretty complicated um. 351 00:34:04.110 --> 00:34:06.840 Vicki Halliday: So I I have mixed feelings about this. 352 00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:14.910 Vicki Halliday: I think the intention is great, I think the work that's gone into it is terrific um. 353 00:34:16.380 --> 00:34:22.770 Vicki Halliday: But as I said, to Clark there's nothing in that in this memo that hasn't been tried before. 354 00:34:24.600 --> 00:34:29.520 Vicki Halliday: So it seems a little bit redundant, but if you guys think we should send it in. 355 00:34:31.110 --> 00:34:32.490 Vicki Halliday: We continue to add COM. 356 00:34:33.210 --> 00:34:45.870 Pat Raphael: Does that does the fact that this is a new session where china's start the conversation with people might that be a good reason to think about putting together the roadmap. 357 00:34:49.980 --> 00:35:01.170 Vicki Halliday: I guess, I mean I guess there's the it's always a good time to try and put together a roadmap, because of the situation and it's so dire for some mini um. 358 00:35:04.110 --> 00:35:07.410 Vicki Halliday: You know I don't know I don't know I don't know who's going to listen to us. 359 00:35:09.090 --> 00:35:10.710 clark brown: That respond to that because briefly. 360 00:35:12.300 --> 00:35:19.230 clark brown: One reason for doing it is as pat pointed out, the situation is not static it changes all the time. 361 00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:27.420 clark brown: The city has identified at 700 units which are available for homeless people. 362 00:35:28.980 --> 00:35:34.950 clark brown: Those haven't always been available they're available now they might apparently they were not available earlier. 363 00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:53.910 clark brown: Earlier, the thinking was that these parcels out in La X two lakhs parcels were subject to FAA regulations which prevented them from being used for homeless, housing and now appears that's not the case so situations change and. 364 00:35:56.280 --> 00:36:10.770 clark brown: So the fact that some of these things have an effect, I think all of these things, many of these things have been tried before but that's not a reason for not doing them again particular we have their own brought together in a single roadmap. 365 00:36:15.510 --> 00:36:36.810 frank murphy: I tend to I I agree to in that it's a it's a fluid situation so when you have an opportunity, bringing up the old ideas, sometimes helps like pat was saying, you know we can it's a new situation it's a new time let's just bring it up again and. 366 00:36:38.070 --> 00:36:46.050 frank murphy: floated out there to see what I mean we've got to come up with something that's more reasonable than what they've got going right now so. 367 00:36:49.440 --> 00:36:58.080 frank murphy: You know the situations change and in opportunities present themselves as pressures build up and in go away. 368 00:37:00.510 --> 00:37:20.250 Brian U.: Thank maybe maybe somebody could explain to us the process when we send these things ah, what is the responsibility of the Council, when we send a motion to the dnc AG, and this motion we get approved by us, and then it goes to the wii and see what happens once that happens. 369 00:37:21.540 --> 00:37:22.650 Brian U.: Can you tell me. 370 00:37:22.680 --> 00:37:27.690 Brian U.: Can you tell me how many emotions that we've done over the last four years on the homeless committee. 371 00:37:28.140 --> 00:37:37.560 Brian U.: That have gone to bond and or to whoever and ever had it responded to or emotion that's been implemented that we've submitted. 372 00:37:37.890 --> 00:37:43.170 Brian U.: And I think that's where maybe some of vicki and my frustration is, you know that it's not going to happen. 373 00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:56.940 Brian U.: Maybe we should deal with the white elephant in the room well where where do all the emotions go and who tracks that and who's looked to see if we've had anything that we've ever submitted responded to. 374 00:37:57.360 --> 00:38:04.290 Vicki Halliday: One of the interesting things that Jim mirror is is installing and web corners working on it for the website right now. 375 00:38:04.680 --> 00:38:16.710 Vicki Halliday: Is that pretty soon there will be a tracking system for every motion that has passed by the dnc and it'll tell you who responded when the letter was originally sent out. 376 00:38:17.040 --> 00:38:17.430 Vicki Halliday: In any. 377 00:38:17.520 --> 00:38:29.880 Vicki Halliday: responses in correspondence it goes on after that year, before I think you know you had to call Melissa you had to dig around and try and find this stuff. 378 00:38:31.080 --> 00:38:38.010 Vicki Halliday: So at least that's that's some progress being made press to be able to know what happens to emotions what. 379 00:38:38.070 --> 00:38:42.180 Brian U.: What would it help for us to make a motion here to find out where all the motions went. 380 00:38:42.240 --> 00:38:44.940 Brian U.: From the homeless committee graveyard. 381 00:38:45.750 --> 00:38:49.500 Brian U.: I mean, I know, like iris some time I mean rumor i'm not i'm not on the neighborhood Council. 382 00:38:49.830 --> 00:38:50.190 Vicki Halliday: Right. 383 00:38:50.220 --> 00:38:50.910 Brian U.: i'm an ad hoc. 384 00:38:51.360 --> 00:38:53.340 Brian U.: So I don't know if if. 385 00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:55.500 Brian U.: If they were ever submitted. 386 00:38:56.070 --> 00:39:03.690 Vicki Halliday: Sometimes I mean they were months later, Jim has been very good about getting things out, you know very that week. 387 00:39:05.040 --> 00:39:06.330 Elizabeth Wright: I mean, but does the public book. 388 00:39:06.330 --> 00:39:09.750 Brian U.: that's a public know that we really don't get responses. 389 00:39:11.040 --> 00:39:11.460 Brian U.: I don't know. 390 00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:19.350 Brian U.: If I was on the neighborhood Council as a board member i'd be that's, the first thing I would ask. 391 00:39:19.590 --> 00:39:19.860 frank murphy: You know. 392 00:39:19.890 --> 00:39:21.390 Brian U.: What are we doing this all for. 393 00:39:21.900 --> 00:39:26.280 Elizabeth Wright: kind of response you get would be, thank you for your input. 394 00:39:27.030 --> 00:39:27.360 Vicki Halliday: yeah. 395 00:39:27.690 --> 00:39:44.070 Elizabeth Wright: I mean that is the kind of response you would get if there have been a number of things that that have been presented by the Venice neighborhood Council did have gone on into a real action and say parking place for overnight, is one of them. 396 00:39:44.700 --> 00:39:46.350 Elizabeth Wright: Whereas that was years ago. 397 00:39:47.550 --> 00:39:49.050 Brian U.: yeah but where is it where where. 398 00:39:49.140 --> 00:39:51.630 Elizabeth Wright: Where is this a partial I personally know where it is. 399 00:39:51.690 --> 00:39:54.120 Elizabeth Wright: I don't, but I do know it exists. 400 00:39:55.230 --> 00:39:55.620 Brian U.: We weren't. 401 00:39:55.650 --> 00:39:57.060 Pat Raphael: We weren't for five versus. 402 00:39:57.150 --> 00:39:58.650 Pat Raphael: Man sorry. 403 00:39:59.160 --> 00:40:04.110 Ansar Muhammad: Man is Dexter the representative for my regarding the homeless issue. 404 00:40:05.790 --> 00:40:07.350 frank murphy: Well, he was never the. 405 00:40:08.580 --> 00:40:13.680 frank murphy: He was he was only on the bridge housing issue so. 406 00:40:14.400 --> 00:40:18.000 Brian U.: I think I think hannah's his senior deputy for homelessness. 407 00:40:18.420 --> 00:40:24.090 Brian U.: mixer was branch housing and they just added this new abby to the. 408 00:40:25.650 --> 00:40:28.080 Brian U.: Playa vista and the other area. 409 00:40:28.410 --> 00:40:31.140 frank murphy: I think this is, I think this is really good for. 410 00:40:31.530 --> 00:40:37.710 frank murphy: The new business stop that we're going to take up at the end of the meeting, but as far as this motion. 411 00:40:39.180 --> 00:40:50.160 frank murphy: I mean, I agree with everything everybody saying, but we should handle this motion first and we can take up the new business stuff at the end is that said. 412 00:40:50.190 --> 00:40:53.070 Brian U.: All right, i'll make i'll make a motion to approve. 413 00:40:53.670 --> 00:40:54.720 Brian U.: The motion on the table. 414 00:40:57.270 --> 00:41:02.670 Ansar Muhammad: But I think I think we need to pay attention to what Brian said that the white elephant in the room. 415 00:41:03.270 --> 00:41:03.990 Brian U.: yeah yeah. 416 00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:05.250 Brian U.: let's just. 417 00:41:05.310 --> 00:41:13.890 Ansar Muhammad: let's just see if we understanding the relationship that has been broken with the power brokers and the decision makers. 418 00:41:15.180 --> 00:41:16.860 Ansar Muhammad: There is a disconnect somewhere. 419 00:41:17.850 --> 00:41:18.120 Brian U.: I mean. 420 00:41:19.050 --> 00:41:22.680 Brian U.: This whole motion has been heard before so let's pass it let's see workouts. 421 00:41:23.040 --> 00:41:23.400 whoa. 422 00:41:24.570 --> 00:41:24.930 Vicki Halliday: Okay. 423 00:41:25.470 --> 00:41:26.610 frank murphy: here's your your. 424 00:41:27.000 --> 00:41:30.720 Brian U.: Your me I thought I thought i've made a motion to approve. 425 00:41:31.050 --> 00:41:32.160 Brian U.: Did we get on that. 426 00:41:32.670 --> 00:41:33.510 Vicki Halliday: And I second. 427 00:41:36.420 --> 00:41:39.750 Brian U.: All right, then, then it goes to the public comment, then it goes to the. 428 00:41:39.750 --> 00:41:40.470 Brian U.: board for coming. 429 00:41:42.390 --> 00:41:42.810 Pat Raphael: along. 430 00:41:43.770 --> 00:41:44.130 Brian U.: Okay, OK. 431 00:41:46.230 --> 00:41:47.340 clark brown: frank, I make one comment. 432 00:41:49.470 --> 00:41:50.520 frank murphy: i'm sure. 433 00:41:51.330 --> 00:42:05.220 clark brown: In response to brian's point which I think is a good point the most of our motion to the dnc is accompanied by a draft motion from the dnc to the city regarding transmittal of the memo. 434 00:42:05.880 --> 00:42:06.300 clark brown: and 435 00:42:07.230 --> 00:42:27.210 clark brown: The last paragraph of the motion, which will go from the dnc to the city paragraph free that the dnc directs the chairman of the committee to designate such members of the committee, as he deems appropriate to follow up with the address sees these are the people to whom the. 436 00:42:28.260 --> 00:42:29.310 clark brown: memo is addressed. 437 00:42:30.390 --> 00:42:38.130 clark brown: Regarding implementation of the recommendations in the memo so the motion includes a provision for follow up with the city. 438 00:42:41.820 --> 00:42:42.000 Brian U.: Oh. 439 00:42:43.770 --> 00:42:52.050 frank murphy: Okay, but that that that's going to require a lot more discussion I think we'll take that up at the end when we do news because I think. 440 00:42:53.130 --> 00:42:53.670 frank murphy: That. 441 00:42:55.320 --> 00:42:58.770 frank murphy: That that's anyhow um. 442 00:42:59.340 --> 00:43:01.830 frank murphy: It just doesn't change our motion here. 443 00:43:02.760 --> 00:43:03.060 frank murphy: So. 444 00:43:03.510 --> 00:43:04.740 frank murphy: We got a motion. 445 00:43:06.150 --> 00:43:25.590 Pat Raphael: I grew up that way, but it seems directly connected to what Clark was just asking is the the dnc going to be able to from what i'm hearing to choose whom they respond to in this motion is that outward. 446 00:43:26.730 --> 00:43:34.380 Vicki Halliday: We always do that emotion, has to be addressed to someone and sometimes it's a laundry list of. 447 00:43:35.880 --> 00:43:50.640 Vicki Halliday: departments like la sanitation dwp depends on the issue and this case it would go to Boston it would go to the homelessness and poverty committee of the city council. 448 00:43:50.700 --> 00:43:58.890 Pat Raphael: So, could we streamline it and try to make it more focus to where we think it would get the most. 449 00:44:00.090 --> 00:44:01.530 frank murphy: Well i'm assuming that's what. 450 00:44:03.150 --> 00:44:04.170 frank murphy: that's what Clark. 451 00:44:05.910 --> 00:44:21.570 frank murphy: gave a distribution list, and he outlines it and that's why brian's suggested adding the homelessness and poverty committee so that would be like your streamlining, even though you might still be sending it out to the whole bunch of other people. 452 00:44:23.640 --> 00:44:24.900 frank murphy: Am I wrong on there this. 453 00:44:29.220 --> 00:44:35.280 Brian U.: isn't pretty much all of the things one way or the other being done within some portion of a city council district. 454 00:44:36.750 --> 00:44:42.480 Brian U.: Currently, and that we're kind of focusing this because we haven't had the same response here in Venice. 455 00:44:42.540 --> 00:44:43.560 frank murphy: yeah yeah. 456 00:44:43.590 --> 00:44:43.860 Okay. 457 00:44:46.830 --> 00:44:47.430 frank murphy: i'm. 458 00:44:48.600 --> 00:44:49.200 frank murphy: Okay. 459 00:44:52.290 --> 00:44:58.170 frank murphy: we've got a we've got a second, and we take it to a vote. 460 00:44:59.010 --> 00:45:00.510 Brian U.: Oh, you have to do, public comments that you. 461 00:45:00.930 --> 00:45:02.250 frank murphy: Do public comment again. 462 00:45:02.550 --> 00:45:03.840 Vicki Halliday: We did one. 463 00:45:04.410 --> 00:45:05.280 frank murphy: Again there we did. 464 00:45:08.190 --> 00:45:14.040 Vicki Halliday: This anyone in the audience would anybody like to speak to this nation raise your hand. 465 00:45:16.350 --> 00:45:16.740 Vicki Halliday: Lisa. 466 00:45:17.220 --> 00:45:17.610 Lisa. 467 00:45:19.080 --> 00:45:20.370 frank murphy: 337 okay. 468 00:45:20.580 --> 00:45:21.540 Vicki Halliday: There you go Lisa. 469 00:45:25.140 --> 00:45:29.430 Lisa Redmond: Not that it's gonna change anyone's thinking, but um. 470 00:45:32.190 --> 00:45:46.530 Lisa Redmond: The problem with using those la X spots is everyone in Venice things it's a great idea, but no one considers that the people westchester don't think it's a great idea, and there are people in westchester right now that are already fighting against it. 471 00:45:47.610 --> 00:45:55.590 Lisa Redmond: um and doing petitions and rallying and everything and and that's The biggest problem is everyone wants. 472 00:45:56.340 --> 00:46:06.630 Lisa Redmond: You talk about krikorian district putting in all those tiny shifts well they don't have the nimbys there that we do here there wasn't the huge massive fight back. 473 00:46:07.290 --> 00:46:18.930 Lisa Redmond: That happened there like happens on the West side so it's not, as you know, easy breezy is that, as far as you know, 6800 beds. 474 00:46:19.320 --> 00:46:23.880 Lisa Redmond: Those are beds identified those are not beds that are sitting around empty there are not 200. 475 00:46:24.840 --> 00:46:42.840 Lisa Redmond: Plus beds sitting in Venice empty all those beds are full and that's nothing compared to the some odd 60,000 and growing number of unhealthy people in the city county or 44 45,000 in the city so. 476 00:46:44.370 --> 00:46:58.350 Lisa Redmond: I don't know i'm just astounded by the over research and and the non research thinking at the same time i'm in then Clark identifies all these encampments but yet you're missing different encampments in Venice in your list. 477 00:46:59.670 --> 00:47:04.650 Lisa Redmond: And everything is in a moving part then it's an electric was a very dynamic. 478 00:47:05.820 --> 00:47:14.400 Lisa Redmond: Community of unhealthy people there and we were working very hard to establish empty beds that were left over from the 5 million boardwalk. 479 00:47:15.900 --> 00:47:28.950 Lisa Redmond: encampment home, this summer, and then the city started sweeps again and now there's just four or five armies over there, in a vm all the people that were camping there are gone I can't find them and we had beds for them so. 480 00:47:30.510 --> 00:47:40.920 Lisa Redmond: it's there's a lot of difficulty everyone wants to sleeps but yet sweeps move people to and like I said i've lost a lot of people that we have beds for and I can't find them. 481 00:47:41.970 --> 00:47:42.510 Lisa Redmond: So. 482 00:47:43.200 --> 00:47:43.830 Lisa Redmond: that's all. 483 00:47:44.250 --> 00:47:44.910 Vicki Halliday: Thank you. 484 00:47:46.200 --> 00:47:46.710 frank murphy: experience. 485 00:47:47.760 --> 00:47:52.200 Vicki Halliday: And next up phone number ending in 337 please. 486 00:48:04.320 --> 00:48:05.340 Vicki Halliday: 337. 487 00:48:15.240 --> 00:48:17.610 frank murphy: Go back to her take care. 488 00:48:19.980 --> 00:48:21.180 1310****337: Father you hear me now. 489 00:48:21.390 --> 00:48:22.110 Yes, we can. 490 00:48:23.520 --> 00:48:34.740 1310****337: hi um I I am, this is one of my first it ends on this neighborhood Council i'm so sorry if. 491 00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:53.670 1310****337: i'm feeling a little bit negative, but I do want to agree that this memo seems a bit like I understand that there's a lot of moving parts and things are constantly changing, but it does seem a bit unorganized uninspired under researched and so I hope that you know. 492 00:48:55.530 --> 00:49:02.370 1310****337: We can get some better work done on future memos my comments, thank you. 493 00:49:03.810 --> 00:49:06.720 Vicki Halliday: Thank you i'm more. 494 00:49:11.490 --> 00:49:20.610 Erica Moore: hi there thanks so much for your service everybody, I appreciate all the work that Clark put into this and I know a lot of people have been talking about the La area. 495 00:49:21.150 --> 00:49:30.240 Erica Moore: My only question is, I thought that they had Dean, that that was not viable for some specific reasons and one of the things that people aren't talking about is the fact that. 496 00:49:30.600 --> 00:49:40.230 Erica Moore: I don't know if you can be housed right under the fumes you know what I mean I know El Segundo is right next door, but I, I honestly don't know if that's an impact. 497 00:49:40.770 --> 00:49:51.900 Erica Moore: Is safety wise because of the air quality in that spot I don't know just a question The other thing I wanted to address is the follow through that you guys are talking about. 498 00:49:52.350 --> 00:50:09.780 Erica Moore: One idea could, first of all anything with the city is like impossible it's very difficult and the ball does get dropped so easily a suggestion could possibly be that whoever make the motion follow through directly themselves with you know what I mean that, with the support of your. 499 00:50:10.980 --> 00:50:15.150 Erica Moore: of your entity of your group that that person kind of your representative that keeps. 500 00:50:15.570 --> 00:50:24.750 Erica Moore: You know keeps contacting and reaching out to follow up on whatever the motions are that you guys put forward to them is to have the follow through that way to have somebody. 501 00:50:25.560 --> 00:50:31.440 Erica Moore: You know what I mean to kind of be that continued liaison because I can understand how you know you put it out there and then it just sort of. 502 00:50:31.890 --> 00:50:40.920 Erica Moore: You know just floating out there, but if there's no it's just like when there's no enforcement on things it's like you can have all the rules in the world, but if there's no enforcement it's like they're meaningless. 503 00:50:41.250 --> 00:50:45.450 Erica Moore: So it's kind of like that you're doing all that work have some follow up for that maybe. 504 00:50:45.930 --> 00:50:46.860 Vicki Halliday: Thank you so much. 505 00:50:47.280 --> 00:50:48.450 Erica Moore: For your time yep. 506 00:50:48.990 --> 00:50:53.040 Vicki Halliday: I bring Jim miras has his hand up he would like to. 507 00:50:55.290 --> 00:50:55.890 frank murphy: Okay. 508 00:50:57.720 --> 00:51:01.380 james murez: hi so I you know I guess you can't see because i'm on the panelists side. 509 00:51:01.620 --> 00:51:06.870 james murez: But I did make public comment to the to the to the item that's on the floor. 510 00:51:08.910 --> 00:51:20.370 james murez: My comment is i've done a fair amount of research into this property that said la X and and i'm probably one of the older people that that. 511 00:51:21.270 --> 00:51:29.850 james murez: is participating in the neighborhood Council at this point and and when I was getting my driver's license there was a lot of houses up there that were being abandoned. 512 00:51:30.300 --> 00:51:38.310 james murez: Back in those days, and this was back in the 70s, and you know it's that's used to be, where I used to drive around and those houses started people living in. 513 00:51:38.610 --> 00:51:55.860 james murez: There were over 3500 homes in the neighborhood that now is nothing but vacant land and and those homes were all eminent domain by the city of Los Angeles to expand the airport and so, for the last 50 years that land is basically been vacant and and in. 514 00:51:57.570 --> 00:52:07.290 james murez: The City of Los Angeles return the $22 million that it had borrowed in the early 70s, to to eminent domain all of those properties. 515 00:52:08.250 --> 00:52:11.730 james murez: And, and they they paid the FAA back that money. 516 00:52:12.330 --> 00:52:24.420 james murez: And when they paid them back the money that the land got turned back over for the city of Los Angeles to do whatever they wanted, with it, but they didn't give it back to the 3500 families that had been living there for many, many, many decades. 517 00:52:24.930 --> 00:52:42.990 james murez: Instead, they just left it vacant land and plan to build a big shopping Center it was going to sort of dwarf century city and and so in 2016 when this motion that's now being heard here was originally proposed to Mike bond and by myself and then later in in. 518 00:52:44.760 --> 00:52:57.900 james murez: 2016 and 2017 it was talked about at the dnc 2018 when I originally wrote the proposal that the dnc approved unanimously to look at this site for for places where it could shelter people. 519 00:52:59.790 --> 00:53:13.350 james murez: Mr bond and just sort of ignored it and, and you know he doesn't want to recognize it there's a swimming pool facility there with men's and women's restrooms and showers that's going completely underutilized it's not used to use it all hasn't been used in over a decade. 520 00:53:14.700 --> 00:53:18.960 james murez: You know that that that that is showers and restrooms for 35 people at a time. 521 00:53:19.470 --> 00:53:26.910 james murez: And it's not being used and it's all there it's all it's all sitting stagnant so when people start talking about you know being under the flight path or. 522 00:53:27.090 --> 00:53:39.240 james murez: it's too noisy to be over there, we have to take a look at how how the the park that's there now is being cleaned out by the Sheriff and how you know they're they're working to to get the people out of the park. 523 00:53:39.690 --> 00:53:45.630 james murez: And, and they don't people don't mind being there, I think that if if the city wanted to. 524 00:53:46.800 --> 00:54:00.900 james murez: Put in restrooms and and lighting and security and hot and cold running water, it would be a great place to have a campsite where people start actually having safe camping rv safe camping and I think the Clarks motion. 525 00:54:01.410 --> 00:54:12.990 james murez: Definitely is going in the right direction and I don't want to speak to the wording of it, I personally I think it's a little bit lengthy for us to be passing motions that are 50 or 60 pages long, but. 526 00:54:13.020 --> 00:54:14.220 james murez: But I think to this one. 527 00:54:14.280 --> 00:54:15.000 Brian U.: Right one minute. 528 00:54:15.600 --> 00:54:15.810 james murez: Oh. 529 00:54:15.840 --> 00:54:19.350 james murez: Thank you, sorry I went over my time I didn't know you had a time. 530 00:54:19.350 --> 00:54:20.550 Brian U.: That i've kid. 531 00:54:21.120 --> 00:54:24.750 james murez: No that's all right sorry Brian you I don't mean to break the rules sorry. 532 00:54:25.320 --> 00:54:26.460 james murez: Thank you for letting me speak. 533 00:54:26.970 --> 00:54:27.600 Vicki Halliday: And you. 534 00:54:28.710 --> 00:54:34.770 Brian U.: 111 of the things I noticed in the letter Clark that came from mark mcclarty. 535 00:54:35.160 --> 00:54:38.310 frank murphy: Will just one second Brian we done with public. 536 00:54:38.400 --> 00:54:40.290 Vicki Halliday: yeah we're no more hands are up. 537 00:54:40.590 --> 00:54:42.180 frank murphy: All right, sorry Brian. 538 00:54:44.280 --> 00:54:51.510 Brian U.: That it does say in response to the first letter that was there, the second responding letter to that letter says the. 539 00:54:54.240 --> 00:55:02.370 Brian U.: The FAA would not support a plan to reintroduce residents to the area identified that were mitigated before due to noise. 540 00:55:04.050 --> 00:55:05.250 Brian U.: So I think you know. 541 00:55:06.300 --> 00:55:06.510 Vicki Halliday: That. 542 00:55:06.690 --> 00:55:07.650 Brian U.: they've already given. 543 00:55:08.580 --> 00:55:09.180 Vicki Halliday: me that. 544 00:55:09.240 --> 00:55:09.450 Brian U.: that's. 545 00:55:09.510 --> 00:55:17.850 Brian U.: that's one location, but all those you know the what Jim was referring to all those streets that are all in there, and all that used to be the 35 homes. 546 00:55:18.600 --> 00:55:28.260 Brian U.: I think those were pulled out because of the noise mitigation and they said they would not really entertain changing that back now they might have given land or given money that go ahead, sorry. 547 00:55:31.260 --> 00:55:37.290 clark brown: Everyone letter is not a model for clarity it's sometimes it's difficult to tell exactly what parcels. 548 00:55:39.240 --> 00:55:48.780 clark brown: Recording is speaking about but, at the end of the bottom of the last paragraph on the first page, he says, if Wah Wah that's Li X. 549 00:55:49.410 --> 00:56:09.750 clark brown: proposes a site near la X, please tell us how you plan to ensure that the area is not an incompatible land use robot become incompatible in the future to the safe and efficient operations of the airport, so what mcclarty is saying is just not ruling out using any of these. 550 00:56:10.920 --> 00:56:19.890 clark brown: These parcels but he just wants more information as to how the city plans to operate them in the event plans to put housing there. 551 00:56:22.260 --> 00:56:29.040 frank murphy: And we already motion in a second are we supposed to be moving to a vote. 552 00:56:29.100 --> 00:56:32.610 Brian U.: yeah yeah but just following up on those. 553 00:56:35.100 --> 00:56:39.120 frank murphy: Okay let's let's move to a vote on this. 554 00:56:43.650 --> 00:56:44.310 frank murphy: Brian. 555 00:56:45.030 --> 00:56:45.690 Brian U.: i'll prove it. 556 00:56:51.930 --> 00:56:52.470 Pat Raphael: Yes. 557 00:56:58.500 --> 00:56:58.920 Elizabeth Wright: Yes. 558 00:57:01.980 --> 00:57:02.400 frank murphy: vicki. 559 00:57:02.790 --> 00:57:03.090 Yes. 560 00:57:04.860 --> 00:57:05.490 frank murphy: Stan. 561 00:57:06.180 --> 00:57:06.720 Yes. 562 00:57:08.460 --> 00:57:08.940 frank murphy: Clark. 563 00:57:09.420 --> 00:57:09.810 Yes. 564 00:57:11.610 --> 00:57:13.020 frank murphy: frank, yes. 565 00:57:15.570 --> 00:57:18.990 frank murphy: All right, that passes unanimous then. 566 00:57:23.190 --> 00:57:24.000 frank murphy: Now let's see. 567 00:57:25.890 --> 00:57:28.290 frank murphy: we're going to return back to the. 568 00:57:29.670 --> 00:57:32.340 frank murphy: To the homeless Roundtable. 569 00:57:33.240 --> 00:57:33.570 and 570 00:57:34.590 --> 00:57:38.160 Vicki Halliday: I know i'm supposed to promote dwight. 571 00:57:39.270 --> 00:57:42.270 Vicki Halliday: Which i've tried to do, but he isn't responding. 572 00:57:44.640 --> 00:57:45.690 frank murphy: To my truth. 573 00:57:46.590 --> 00:57:46.980 Vicki Halliday: That you. 574 00:57:47.100 --> 00:57:47.700 frank murphy: hear us. 575 00:57:48.090 --> 00:57:49.530 james murez: Do you want me to try to help you vicki. 576 00:57:50.430 --> 00:57:53.880 Vicki Halliday: No, no, it isn't and I know how to do it. 577 00:57:54.030 --> 00:57:56.820 Vicki Halliday: No he didn't respond to the panelist. 578 00:57:57.570 --> 00:58:17.340 Pat Raphael: Eric can you hear me this is a he's done since dunder mifflin link dwight fruit is a character on the office but that's Eric camacho who's in the rv near the dog Park, who I thought would have been a good person to add to the conversation. 579 00:58:18.720 --> 00:58:20.730 Vicki Halliday: yeah he's not responding. 580 00:58:20.880 --> 00:58:21.930 Pat Raphael: It looks like the just. 581 00:58:23.880 --> 00:58:25.110 Vicki Halliday: Oh no did he come in. 582 00:58:25.200 --> 00:58:25.560 Elizabeth Wright: Are you. 583 00:58:26.910 --> 00:58:27.390 Vicki Halliday: There, yes. 584 00:58:27.750 --> 00:58:28.500 Vicki Halliday: he's on now. 585 00:58:29.610 --> 00:58:32.400 Vicki Halliday: And I don't see the love. 586 00:58:36.060 --> 00:58:40.650 Pat Raphael: I did finally get a number for her through the several people that we will know. 587 00:58:42.090 --> 00:58:45.630 Pat Raphael: And they think she's she has not responded to my decks. 588 00:58:48.840 --> 00:58:49.680 frank murphy: Okay. 589 00:58:49.860 --> 00:58:51.780 Vicki Halliday: What about um cody. 590 00:58:55.680 --> 00:58:56.040 Who. 591 00:58:57.630 --> 00:58:57.990 frank murphy: jodi. 592 00:58:58.710 --> 00:59:02.160 frank murphy: jodi jodi hasn't Come on, I haven't seen God. 593 00:59:02.250 --> 00:59:03.720 Vicki Halliday: Oh okay. 594 00:59:03.990 --> 00:59:04.710 Vicki Halliday: um. 595 00:59:05.400 --> 00:59:07.350 Vicki Halliday: Well i'm going to turn it over to Stan. 596 00:59:09.090 --> 00:59:09.870 Brian U.: First, one on one. 597 00:59:10.680 --> 00:59:13.230 frank murphy: Let me, let me, let me just. 598 00:59:14.040 --> 00:59:15.180 Vicki Halliday: Watch for people. 599 00:59:15.390 --> 00:59:17.130 frank murphy: yeah let me, let me. 600 00:59:18.480 --> 00:59:34.410 frank murphy: Just kind of go over this real quick we we we want dwight so appreciate you coming coming on and we don't want to make this a we'd like to make this a more ongoing ongoing phenomenon but. 601 00:59:35.850 --> 00:59:41.730 frank murphy: A lot of people fell through we had six people lined up and and stuff fell through so. 602 00:59:43.350 --> 00:59:47.820 frank murphy: we're going to keep attempting at this but yours alone you're the lone. 603 00:59:49.080 --> 00:59:53.760 frank murphy: Wolf out here so Stan Stan and and dwight. 604 00:59:56.430 --> 01:00:04.050 frank murphy: i'm not quite sure how we'll we'll go ahead and do that but Stan i'll leave it to you to to. 605 01:00:05.850 --> 01:00:07.110 frank murphy: take it away with dwight. 606 01:00:07.650 --> 01:00:11.490 Ansar Muhammad: I think what we should do first thank you for joining us, but I think we should. 607 01:00:12.960 --> 01:00:16.830 Ansar Muhammad: Definitely hear from the white, but I don't think we should get into the. 608 01:00:17.970 --> 01:00:26.730 Ansar Muhammad: totality of what a Roundtable discussion will you will only have one participant, so I would like to use my time. 609 01:00:27.870 --> 01:00:43.950 Ansar Muhammad: to divide and just let him share from this perspective, the needs and wants from you know from his vantage point and then have a follow up and do some more outreach in the near future, to have a real legitimate Roundtable discussion. 610 01:00:45.150 --> 01:00:50.100 Ansar Muhammad: From those who was announced, so I would like to your my time frame to the way. 611 01:00:52.470 --> 01:00:56.040 frank murphy: dwight I know you're probably not prepared for. 612 01:00:57.600 --> 01:01:05.820 frank murphy: This kind of a formal setting but it's pretty informal if you can catch the catch challenge how it's working. 613 01:01:06.960 --> 01:01:17.100 frank murphy: i'd like to just get a little bit of your of your history if you wouldn't mind sharing it and whatever you want to share and then back to what. 614 01:01:18.210 --> 01:01:33.540 frank murphy: What Stan was commenting on which was the you know the wants and needs that you have on a daily basis and how we can concerns wants and needs anyhow. 615 01:01:35.130 --> 01:01:37.470 frank murphy: Do you feel comfortable going down that route. 616 01:01:39.000 --> 01:01:39.210 frank murphy: Now. 617 01:01:39.240 --> 01:01:40.710 frank murphy: yeah okay. 618 01:01:42.000 --> 01:01:48.780 Dwight Schrute: So i'm a little history, I came out here from New Jersey and I ended up you know being homeless on the beach. 619 01:01:50.640 --> 01:02:03.750 Dwight Schrute: I used to sell stickers from the TV show the Office on the boardwalk and basically you know use use that as a as a launching pad to be able to create my comic book bait also based on the TV show the office. 620 01:02:04.980 --> 01:02:20.700 Dwight Schrute: And you know i'm basically a vendor on the boardwalk and I got my little rv over here to talk Park, basically, what I do here with the other people, the other homeless people that are that have like you know, cars and stuff we keep the tweaking. 621 01:02:22.140 --> 01:02:31.380 Dwight Schrute: I don't know if you know speakers that people who do math and setup tense we don't let them set up in this area and stuff so we we try to keep a clear. 622 01:02:35.100 --> 01:02:36.180 Dwight Schrute: wants and needs. 623 01:02:37.440 --> 01:02:48.090 Dwight Schrute: You know there's there's already a lot of places here in in Venice that that helps people they on the weekends over there at the end of the boardwalk near rose in the parking lot they give away food. 624 01:02:48.750 --> 01:03:01.110 Dwight Schrute: At the tabernacle there's um there's three times a week, they give they give food to give good food there to like from coulson's and and the good stuff from whole foods, you know i'm. 625 01:03:03.960 --> 01:03:09.690 Dwight Schrute: yeah I was talking about the encampments before right and I remember, they did send the city out here to. 626 01:03:10.200 --> 01:03:17.070 Dwight Schrute: to clear out, but I also remember, during that time since the people that they send out here, they didn't really get in touch with the Community, they were just walking up. 627 01:03:17.490 --> 01:03:25.710 Dwight Schrute: To people started showing up intense and they started getting housing, you know what i'm saying, some of the homeless people missed out on that because. 628 01:03:26.430 --> 01:03:37.380 Dwight Schrute: Because you know, like other people got hip to it, I think I think if they do something like that again they should like get together with people like pat people that are that are actually in the Community and and like get. 629 01:03:47.760 --> 01:03:48.720 Brian U.: you're frozen man. 630 01:03:49.050 --> 01:03:50.100 Vicki Halliday: he's frozen. 631 01:03:54.540 --> 01:03:56.610 Brian U.: Can you tell him to get off and read man. 632 01:03:57.750 --> 01:04:07.350 Pat Raphael: yeah he's he's his own of week wi fi signal probably but i'm texting them again to let them know because he's probably talking his head off. 633 01:04:12.990 --> 01:04:20.760 Ansar Muhammad: Stating that some of the people, ended up putting up tents and getting out there wasn't even home, this is a mistake. 634 01:04:21.450 --> 01:04:29.160 Pat Raphael: Well okay what what ends up happening is in order to make people move, you have to bribe them with housing. 635 01:04:30.210 --> 01:04:40.980 Pat Raphael: When people hear oh my God they're bribing people with housing over there, a bunch of people go over there and that's what recently happened under the bridge on Venice at the four or five. 636 01:04:42.120 --> 01:04:47.490 Pat Raphael: All of that stuff kind of clued up about three months ago, but everybody who. 637 01:04:49.050 --> 01:04:57.510 Pat Raphael: understood that they were giving housing away like being jumped to the front of the line people just went in rebuild that old sidewalk up. 638 01:04:58.020 --> 01:05:17.040 Pat Raphael: So I think that's probably what he's talking about how when when there isn't a a concerted effort to manage the line people just just worked it by trying to jump the line and being the one that's in front of the the Agency with something to hand out. 639 01:05:19.230 --> 01:05:27.630 Brian U.: I think when when when they did the boardwalk removal they St Joseph came out and said, if you are if you're not on our list. 640 01:05:27.930 --> 01:05:44.130 Brian U.: Then you're not in this program or if you weren't here by X, I know in westchester they said, if you weren't in the park by November 20 you're not eligible for the program they're trying to do so, they were trying to prevent that outside group coming in. 641 01:05:47.940 --> 01:06:04.500 Brian U.: You know the problem is, if the optics were just being done to get rid of the boardwalk and you lived a block or two off the boardwalk you know you know what's the plan to get the rest of them, you know we did the optics change on the boardwalk but. 642 01:06:06.180 --> 01:06:11.970 Brian U.: You know what is that plan so obviously people are going to come from being cancer and cancer in catchment zone. 643 01:06:12.600 --> 01:06:25.170 Brian U.: To the boardwalk as quick as they can once they hear that, but I think once they got there if they weren't on the list, they didn't get to have houses, specifically that you know if you work on the boardwalk he didn't get house. 644 01:06:30.390 --> 01:06:33.660 Pat Raphael: I guess it speaks to the scale of the problem, because. 645 01:06:34.740 --> 01:06:44.970 Pat Raphael: It doesn't matter how much you offer if there is so many people in the wings waiting in the stock isn't really keeping pace as soon as you. 646 01:06:46.050 --> 01:06:55.380 Pat Raphael: remove those people somebody's going to look around and be like hey, this is a nice part to set up camp that because now it's cleared and nobody said. 647 01:06:56.310 --> 01:06:58.860 Brian U.: Well, the police aren't letting you come back to the board. 648 01:07:01.170 --> 01:07:03.030 Brian U.: You know, once they clean it that's it. 649 01:07:04.320 --> 01:07:08.280 Brian U.: mean the only thing that happened on pen Mars they cleaned it but they've left that fence up. 650 01:07:09.180 --> 01:07:21.510 Brian U.: You know, they were just supposed to clean those trees and do a project but there's no one going back to pen mar if there's no one better going back to the boardwalk and they have the same lapd doing overtime to manage the West Chester park right now. 651 01:07:22.650 --> 01:07:24.360 Brian U.: To make sure that doesn't happen there either. 652 01:07:28.230 --> 01:07:37.200 Brian U.: So until the TV cameras come back to a location that's bad again, then we won't see that program probably implemented as much. 653 01:07:39.600 --> 01:07:45.990 Elizabeth Wright: As just in San Antonio and I was asked about the homeless situation in Venice. 654 01:07:50.490 --> 01:07:51.570 Elizabeth Wright: it's national. 655 01:07:52.290 --> 01:07:57.690 Pat Raphael: yeah we're getting a lot of negative media play every now then it's in a national story. 656 01:07:58.890 --> 01:08:05.250 Brian U.: yeah, but we also get a lot of people saying if there's apartments and homes out there and let's get there. 657 01:08:07.200 --> 01:08:07.680 yeah. 658 01:08:08.910 --> 01:08:11.880 Brian U.: yeah the negative views to somebody is positive there's to the other. 659 01:08:17.100 --> 01:08:18.120 frank murphy: Well let's. 660 01:08:19.080 --> 01:08:21.540 Vicki Halliday: See Eric coming back in um. 661 01:08:21.630 --> 01:08:22.230 frank murphy: Oh, you do. 662 01:08:22.620 --> 01:08:23.190 Vicki Halliday: I don't. 663 01:08:23.640 --> 01:08:25.740 frank murphy: I keep watching I don't see him coming back. 664 01:08:25.740 --> 01:08:41.130 frank murphy: In either, and you know let's give him a better forum on the next on the next one, and you know really interested in in this in this Roundtable concept, I hope that we. 665 01:08:42.330 --> 01:08:43.830 frank murphy: put this was when. 666 01:08:44.220 --> 01:08:45.240 Pat Raphael: he's back now. 667 01:08:47.610 --> 01:08:48.750 Pat Raphael: I see the white in the audio. 668 01:08:48.750 --> 01:08:49.410 Vicki Halliday: Is that. 669 01:08:49.500 --> 01:08:51.570 frank murphy: Okay, we need promoting I don't see him. 670 01:08:51.750 --> 01:08:54.840 Brian U.: I did just let him finish for a couple minutes. 671 01:08:55.650 --> 01:08:57.450 frank murphy: Sure, no, no, no let's give him time. 672 01:09:00.390 --> 01:09:01.080 Vicki Halliday: There you guys. 673 01:09:20.610 --> 01:09:21.630 Pat Raphael: Sometimes Eric. 674 01:09:21.630 --> 01:09:22.560 frank murphy: Were muted. 675 01:09:22.680 --> 01:09:31.170 Pat Raphael: bandwidth issue it's probably better to go audio only without the video, if you think that might be an issue again. 676 01:09:33.360 --> 01:09:35.490 Dwight Schrute: just talk and dawn on via video. 677 01:09:38.280 --> 01:09:42.420 Pat Raphael: i'm just saying i'm just saying, if you think that might be an issue with your connection that you. 678 01:09:42.480 --> 01:09:43.230 Dwight Schrute: are no no. 679 01:09:43.650 --> 01:09:47.640 Dwight Schrute: um my arm my phone that I was using the hotspot died. 680 01:09:48.570 --> 01:09:50.040 Dwight Schrute: So that's a real quick. 681 01:09:51.840 --> 01:09:52.140 frank murphy: Oh. 682 01:09:52.680 --> 01:09:53.850 Dwight Schrute: I got the generator running. 683 01:09:55.590 --> 01:10:00.000 frank murphy: You cut out a right after you are talking about well. 684 01:10:01.050 --> 01:10:12.600 frank murphy: Standard mentioned that the tent you are talking about the tents and the and the people coming in and essentially jumping in line on. 685 01:10:13.680 --> 01:10:15.840 frank murphy: On housing availability. 686 01:10:17.040 --> 01:10:21.000 Dwight Schrute: yeah yeah you know, like like like we're spread quick, you know i'm saying. 687 01:10:21.360 --> 01:10:33.870 Dwight Schrute: yeah like like what what I like I said what I think should happen is he should come in, you know, like I like I know people that are hurting that are that are that are making those times you know, like like like we know who they are, you know saying. 688 01:10:34.920 --> 01:10:41.310 Dwight Schrute: Like they they gotta do a little more research, you know i'm saying that I just give it to anybody who just shows up. 689 01:10:43.470 --> 01:10:50.790 Dwight Schrute: Because that that's how you take down the encampments you know saying you got to go into the encampments and find out exactly who needs the help. 690 01:10:55.410 --> 01:10:57.780 Brian U.: How long did you say you've been here in Venice. 691 01:10:59.340 --> 01:11:02.460 Dwight Schrute: i've been here was like pat like three years right. 692 01:11:04.980 --> 01:11:05.910 Dwight Schrute: Three years. 693 01:11:06.840 --> 01:11:11.580 Brian U.: Can you tell us how many times you've been approached by outreach workers to get help. 694 01:11:12.780 --> 01:11:13.740 Dwight Schrute: um. 695 01:11:15.000 --> 01:11:17.010 Brian U.: And the end the results of those meetings. 696 01:11:18.060 --> 01:11:23.550 Dwight Schrute: So once and it was a it just happened and. 697 01:11:25.740 --> 01:11:37.230 Dwight Schrute: And it was some dude and he he pulled up Mr V and knocked on the door and he said no, he asked me if I had any mental issues and all and all this mental health stuff. 698 01:11:38.040 --> 01:11:43.770 Dwight Schrute: And I saw them nicely, he was like oh so I you know I can't really help you i'm looking for people with mental issues and then he left. 699 01:11:44.850 --> 01:11:49.800 Brian U.: He gave me like a little sad face so that that's the only engagement you've had with outreach workers. 700 01:11:49.800 --> 01:11:50.880 Dwight Schrute: And we. 701 01:11:50.940 --> 01:11:52.680 Dwight Schrute: know that the circle people they're cool. 702 01:11:53.130 --> 01:11:54.960 Dwight Schrute: They made me that just having. 703 01:11:55.590 --> 01:11:56.850 Brian U.: That is happening this week. 704 01:11:57.630 --> 01:12:01.020 Dwight Schrute: Not that that happened like a like a few weeks ago. 705 01:12:02.070 --> 01:12:05.580 Dwight Schrute: The other person for mental health, but then there's a circle people, but you know. 706 01:12:06.300 --> 01:12:12.870 Dwight Schrute: Like they they do something on the boardwalk they don't really reach out to me, but you know they give me bottles of water, they given me arm. 707 01:12:13.620 --> 01:12:25.890 Dwight Schrute: Those ips that they're like really big so you like clean yourself up you know saying, maybe three showers they are all the gaming applesauce they they gave me some thanksgiving dinner on thanksgiving. 708 01:12:28.260 --> 01:12:28.950 Ansar Muhammad: But what i'm. 709 01:12:29.400 --> 01:12:31.140 Dwight Schrute: Talking about a circle circle circle. 710 01:12:32.010 --> 01:12:33.780 Ansar Muhammad: alchemy herb anatomy that. 711 01:12:34.710 --> 01:12:37.620 Dwight Schrute: connect i'd be out there, collecting trash to yeah. 712 01:12:39.060 --> 01:12:42.660 Dwight Schrute: What is it that they do I don't even know that they collect trash. 713 01:12:44.130 --> 01:12:54.450 Ansar Muhammad: The disconnect is the majority's outreach workers is not familiar with the mascot Venice nor Mary what the indigenous part of Venice and we've been we've been arguing this point. 714 01:12:54.960 --> 01:13:02.130 Ansar Muhammad: For probably two years now, you know if you look at this game they're not invented so they don't even know who's who and what is what. 715 01:13:02.700 --> 01:13:04.050 Dwight Schrute: And yeah yeah. 716 01:13:04.350 --> 01:13:12.120 Ansar Muhammad: What he was just described is really if they don't know who's who they can pretty much do whatever you know but anyway. 717 01:13:13.260 --> 01:13:13.950 Ansar Muhammad: it's another company. 718 01:13:14.520 --> 01:13:15.150 Dwight Schrute: You know they gotta. 719 01:13:15.600 --> 01:13:16.500 Brian U.: Say that it's. 720 01:13:16.560 --> 01:13:25.800 Brian U.: it's kind of important this is why we're bringing these people here is to find out what works what doesn't work and to have a couple bottles of water and. 721 01:13:26.580 --> 01:13:41.280 Brian U.: Two times, or three times and three years, I mean there's no enrolling them in the coordinated entry system there's no hey if you do this will do that there's no let's do reunification and send you back to New Jersey what, what does the. 722 01:13:41.280 --> 01:13:43.020 Dwight Schrute: outreach Jersey. 723 01:13:43.290 --> 01:13:44.130 Brian U.: hey I got. 724 01:13:45.150 --> 01:13:46.500 Dwight Schrute: The weather over here, so good. 725 01:13:47.160 --> 01:13:47.580 yeah. 726 01:13:49.230 --> 01:13:54.750 Pat Raphael: Okay, so there's something that, like me, who knows Eric a little bit better than. 727 01:13:56.490 --> 01:13:58.830 Pat Raphael: somebody who might just interact with them casually. 728 01:14:00.210 --> 01:14:12.810 Pat Raphael: Eric is very self sufficient person to begin with he's got a thriving business on the boardwalk he even hires other people right, so the kind of. 729 01:14:13.950 --> 01:14:31.020 Pat Raphael: hustle and go get in his approach to life is not always what you see on the boardwalk so having been outreached once can be a testament to how he lives his life people don't even see him as somebody that might need that help. 730 01:14:32.190 --> 01:14:33.420 Dwight Schrute: Oh yeah I stay clean. 731 01:14:41.400 --> 01:14:46.170 Brian U.: So is this a lifestyle choice that you have if we offered you housing, would you go today. 732 01:14:47.610 --> 01:14:53.130 Dwight Schrute: I go today how far is it going to be from Venice, you know cuz I actually. 733 01:14:53.190 --> 01:14:55.140 Brian U.: want How far is boardwalk. 734 01:14:55.590 --> 01:14:57.660 Dwight Schrute: I love skateboarding it was. 735 01:14:59.100 --> 01:15:06.660 Brian U.: Totally cool to have you skateboard and do that but i'm talking about living on the streets inside the Venice area. 736 01:15:09.960 --> 01:15:12.240 Dwight Schrute: Inside the Minutes every that'll be great oh you. 737 01:15:12.390 --> 01:15:13.320 Dwight Schrute: Know i'm an early. 738 01:15:15.270 --> 01:15:26.880 Brian U.: yeah you don't have say a pad I mean i'm just trying to ask these questions that people want to know as it relates to what who's trying to help you and you don't need it. 739 01:15:27.450 --> 01:15:37.500 Brian U.: How about the person that needs it next year, how often do you see outreach workers doing interventions or trying, you know it's except Besides these targeted. 740 01:15:39.540 --> 01:15:51.960 Brian U.: No homes to encampments thing that have just recently been done How often do you see actual people getting serviced and and talking and trying to better their lives and find housing. 741 01:15:54.420 --> 01:15:55.320 Dwight Schrute: And really see it a lot. 742 01:15:56.430 --> 01:15:56.820 Brian U.: yeah. 743 01:15:58.080 --> 01:16:00.180 Brian U.: I appreciate your honesty that's you know yeah. 744 01:16:01.680 --> 01:16:02.310 Ansar Muhammad: You feel. 745 01:16:03.720 --> 01:16:09.450 Ansar Muhammad: Do you feel you can be an effective outreach worker with the population if he was given that opportunity. 746 01:16:10.020 --> 01:16:10.500 Dwight Schrute: Well me. 747 01:16:10.980 --> 01:16:11.550 Yes. 748 01:16:12.810 --> 01:16:17.880 Dwight Schrute: I know a lot of people out here yeah I think I think I would actually offer good. 749 01:16:19.020 --> 01:16:25.770 Dwight Schrute: good advice to or no, no other people I I know the people that need help you know saying. 750 01:16:26.370 --> 01:16:26.640 Ansar Muhammad: yeah. 751 01:16:27.600 --> 01:16:32.940 Dwight Schrute: Because that's that's like like well better person that's to get people that are already out here with good head on her shoulders. 752 01:16:36.750 --> 01:16:37.260 Pat Raphael: I mean. 753 01:16:37.500 --> 01:16:44.250 Pat Raphael: He would have to be empowered with housing stock to offer right, and I think that's one. 754 01:16:45.150 --> 01:16:53.040 Pat Raphael: Of the outreach workers, though the outreach to people they don't have a concrete thing and people feel like. 755 01:16:53.490 --> 01:17:08.970 Pat Raphael: The outreach is it's going to resolve them getting back in a line and then maybe a year or two later they might get something it's been different lately but, but like Eric was saying it's not being managed in a way to take into account those who've been waiting the longest. 756 01:17:14.730 --> 01:17:17.550 Brian U.: yeah I mean Eric if if. 757 01:17:18.390 --> 01:17:29.760 Brian U.: If you were made part of a team like if you join the St Joseph team or the Venice medical team or the host team or another as as a partner or with Stan. 758 01:17:30.660 --> 01:17:42.420 Brian U.: You know, would you go around and help identify people that actually need help and because of your relationships, you might be able to expedite them going and taking help. 759 01:17:44.910 --> 01:17:47.040 Dwight Schrute: yeah that sounds sounds good. 760 01:17:48.600 --> 01:17:49.380 Dwight Schrute: And a lot of people. 761 01:17:49.410 --> 01:17:52.440 Dwight Schrute: need help and there's you know. 762 01:17:53.550 --> 01:17:55.260 Dwight Schrute: Some of the people you know, like like. 763 01:17:56.400 --> 01:18:03.390 Dwight Schrute: i'm not the only self sufficient one you know there's a lot of other people that are kind of self sufficient, but you can use to help you got i'm saying. 764 01:18:03.720 --> 01:18:17.430 Dwight Schrute: They they could really use it, you know what i'm saying, but they're they're not on the boardwalk all the time they're out there on the streets, you know say trying and trying to survive out there there's a there's a lot of that going on and there's a lot of struggle to man like. 765 01:18:18.000 --> 01:18:18.510 Totally. 766 01:18:20.430 --> 01:18:24.000 Dwight Schrute: There was a mechanic that went around and help all these people, you know, like one, at a time. 767 01:18:25.500 --> 01:18:28.110 Dwight Schrute: You know I like there that that'll be good so. 768 01:18:32.160 --> 01:18:46.890 frank murphy: nobody's reaching out to you in that capacity, other than you've never heard this kind of conversation before from folks that might have said, you know hey listen Can you help us identify people, et cetera et cetera. 769 01:18:48.480 --> 01:18:49.500 frank murphy: Other than here. 770 01:18:51.060 --> 01:18:52.980 Dwight Schrute: i've never been offered that or sold that. 771 01:18:54.120 --> 01:19:02.130 Dwight Schrute: same, but like I don't even look homeless, you know what i'm saying I I that's that's probably not like like i'm only have another week you don't i'm saying. 772 01:19:02.550 --> 01:19:03.000 Dwight Schrute: yeah. 773 01:19:03.630 --> 01:19:04.740 Dwight Schrute: I gotta go on my way. 774 01:19:05.280 --> 01:19:15.900 Dwight Schrute: Even before I had the rv I was you know i'm saying I have my little tech I was, I was taking showers right there on the beach Erin day you know, like the order and everything I mean. 775 01:19:16.920 --> 01:19:17.250 Brian U.: Like. 776 01:19:17.280 --> 01:19:19.350 Dwight Schrute: yeah I guess I look normal I mean. 777 01:19:21.600 --> 01:19:22.920 Ansar Muhammad: You are normal here. 778 01:19:23.250 --> 01:19:24.570 Brian U.: yeah yeah exactly. 779 01:19:25.350 --> 01:19:27.150 Ansar Muhammad: home, this is normal human beings man. 780 01:19:28.020 --> 01:19:41.910 Dwight Schrute: yeah man, but you know, like especially right now the showers can really help people you don't know saying like right now late late late people's think because it's cold you don't like cold showers out there, I mean. 781 01:19:43.050 --> 01:19:44.130 frank murphy: yeah no kidding. 782 01:19:45.480 --> 01:19:48.750 Dwight Schrute: yeah they still providing showers out in the parking lot by rose. 783 01:19:50.190 --> 01:19:55.800 Dwight Schrute: i'm not really sure about that because I don't know I take showers it in here marvi. 784 01:19:57.090 --> 01:19:58.440 Pat Raphael: showers on the road. 785 01:19:59.370 --> 01:20:01.590 Pat Raphael: Thursday thursday's. 786 01:20:01.650 --> 01:20:03.000 Dwight Schrute: Your pad they got hot water. 787 01:20:03.780 --> 01:20:04.740 Brian U.: yeah yeah. 788 01:20:07.320 --> 01:20:08.160 Dwight Schrute: Thursday 789 01:20:08.700 --> 01:20:09.180 Brian U.: yeah. 790 01:20:09.720 --> 01:20:12.810 Brian U.: I know you gotta you gotta be on the boardwalk to get that dude. 791 01:20:13.260 --> 01:20:13.950 yeah. 792 01:20:18.240 --> 01:20:20.760 Brian U.: Tell me tell me from your vantage point. 793 01:20:23.070 --> 01:20:35.880 Brian U.: Talking about addiction mental health and people from out of town, if you had to just off the top of your mind how many of the people out there are suffering from mental health and addiction. 794 01:20:37.380 --> 01:20:42.270 Brian U.: And how many people do you think are from out of town versus were born and raised right here. 795 01:20:42.840 --> 01:20:45.270 Dwight Schrute: Well, Venice everybody's from out of town right. 796 01:20:46.710 --> 01:20:49.740 Dwight Schrute: But um but yeah there's there's a lot of. 797 01:20:50.940 --> 01:20:57.210 Dwight Schrute: there's a lot of mental health issues there's a lot of addiction, you know that that that math is a hell of a drug. 798 01:20:57.720 --> 01:21:08.190 Dwight Schrute: That really grabs people and, like finishes them off quick, you know, like you'll you'll you'll see somebody show a brand new and six months later it's like a completely different person. 799 01:21:08.700 --> 01:21:09.180 Brian U.: not like. 800 01:21:10.260 --> 01:21:17.550 Dwight Schrute: We should do more before and after PICs that are like really like lately like scare people you know what i'm saying like look at this, this is happening in Venice right now. 801 01:21:18.510 --> 01:21:28.020 Dwight Schrute: You know that people show up you know, like especially especially, especially the young girls through right, you know they so well, these are doing drugs and. 802 01:21:29.250 --> 01:21:33.090 Dwight Schrute: On real quick they start disappearing in front of you, you don't i'm saying. 803 01:21:35.130 --> 01:21:37.950 Brian U.: Is anybody offered any of those people treatment. 804 01:21:38.460 --> 01:21:44.070 Brian U.: And detox beds and saying hey when you're ready we've got a bed for you to do detox and. 805 01:21:47.070 --> 01:21:53.010 Dwight Schrute: You know, but I I keep my distance from from that you know what i'm saying, like the the moment that that I noticed. 806 01:21:53.580 --> 01:22:04.680 Dwight Schrute: Oh, this person's tweaking or this person is does math you know, like immediately I don't associate with that person, no more because you know they're there on that other stuff you know. 807 01:22:08.070 --> 01:22:10.110 Dwight Schrute: They got their own God, you know. 808 01:22:11.640 --> 01:22:13.620 Dwight Schrute: I gotta worry about myself and make sure that. 809 01:22:14.340 --> 01:22:16.890 Dwight Schrute: That that people like that are not around me. 810 01:22:19.890 --> 01:22:20.700 Dwight Schrute: And it's sad. 811 01:22:20.910 --> 01:22:23.160 Dwight Schrute: it's sad that I gotta be like that you know i'm saying. 812 01:22:23.910 --> 01:22:25.890 Dwight Schrute: Like I knew people that I thought. 813 01:22:25.890 --> 01:22:28.590 Dwight Schrute: It was cool and then they went down that route, I was like oh man. 814 01:22:29.940 --> 01:22:34.410 Dwight Schrute: You know, like we were friends, you know, and then, then, then the friendship right there. 815 01:22:35.640 --> 01:22:38.280 Ansar Muhammad: Do you have a family, which you are used for you by yourself. 816 01:22:39.210 --> 01:22:51.330 Dwight Schrute: um I family actually left me, we were I was here with my family at first, and they all move back to New Jersey their mom's house, because he knows the the struggle struggle is real the rv with three kids, and I mean. 817 01:22:52.020 --> 01:22:52.440 yeah. 818 01:22:53.850 --> 01:22:59.970 Dwight Schrute: But i'm still chasing that dream with that office comic book return of the office, and you know, trying to. 819 01:23:00.990 --> 01:23:01.530 Dwight Schrute: blow it up. 820 01:23:03.000 --> 01:23:05.100 Dwight Schrute: comic con this weekend la. 821 01:23:05.460 --> 01:23:07.140 Dwight Schrute: yeah we'll be out there, pushing. 822 01:23:07.140 --> 01:23:07.470 hard. 823 01:23:09.780 --> 01:23:10.410 Vicki Halliday: cream. 824 01:23:13.440 --> 01:23:20.340 Pat Raphael: I I really appreciate having you as an ambassador to kind of show the the. 825 01:23:21.360 --> 01:23:32.640 Pat Raphael: The breadth of experiences, the differences out here, I also wanted to ask, have you noticed people who come to visit us like you're describing. 826 01:23:33.510 --> 01:23:47.250 Pat Raphael: that are more or less normal and then the pressures in their life push them towards the drug and then, if later on, you can see there's a mental health person in homelessness. 827 01:23:47.880 --> 01:23:59.520 Pat Raphael: How much of that could have been caused by the situation that they're in rather than starting this way and then not being taken care of or even getting worse since they became homeless. 828 01:24:01.980 --> 01:24:02.520 Dwight Schrute: well. 829 01:24:04.200 --> 01:24:11.580 Dwight Schrute: Definitely Venice does imprint something on you know, like and and right here it's like. 830 01:24:12.930 --> 01:24:25.620 Dwight Schrute: You know what you're made up when you show up because, like either either it's going to take a hold of you and send you in the wrong direction or you're going to take a hold of it and, like enjoy like. 831 01:24:27.060 --> 01:24:30.810 Dwight Schrute: Almost had a curse but i'm enjoying like really art, you know i'm saying. 832 01:24:33.930 --> 01:24:41.040 Dwight Schrute: Like it's this it's either or man like there's two types of people man, you know and like I said man that. 833 01:24:42.420 --> 01:24:46.230 Dwight Schrute: You know what it is man, the that I draw the metro metro is too cheap. 834 01:24:47.280 --> 01:24:51.480 Dwight Schrute: You know, saying too many people suddenly like so like it's like. 835 01:24:52.500 --> 01:24:53.970 Dwight Schrute: it's like they they get hooked on it real. 836 01:24:53.970 --> 01:25:04.290 Dwight Schrute: quick, you know saying, if it was it was more expensive, it will probably be probably be better buses is so cheap it's like everybody everybody gets lost in the man. 837 01:25:05.760 --> 01:25:08.850 Dwight Schrute: area is lost in the man that's the sad part about, that is. 838 01:25:09.900 --> 01:25:22.980 Dwight Schrute: You know, like we got to start helping the like that that has to be like a whole team of people coming through because also you know people with mental health issues, those are the ones that fall victim eat the most easily. 839 01:25:24.210 --> 01:25:27.150 Dwight Schrute: You know, is this is like a like a double Bam like. 840 01:25:30.540 --> 01:25:31.890 Dwight Schrute: Real quick get lost. 841 01:25:33.510 --> 01:25:38.700 Brian U.: What So do you think this is a housing problem or an addiction mental health problem. 842 01:25:40.950 --> 01:25:41.100 This. 843 01:25:44.070 --> 01:25:44.730 Dwight Schrute: is both. 844 01:25:45.810 --> 01:25:47.070 Dwight Schrute: They ain't got no how are you. 845 01:25:48.420 --> 01:25:48.750 Dwight Schrute: hi. 846 01:25:49.410 --> 01:25:49.770 Dwight Schrute: Yes. 847 01:25:50.670 --> 01:25:53.970 Dwight Schrute: I can get you through the night for some people yeah. 848 01:25:54.840 --> 01:25:58.740 Brian U.: If you're put into a hotel with a math habit. 849 01:26:00.000 --> 01:26:01.110 Dwight Schrute: you're gonna start doing method there. 850 01:26:03.210 --> 01:26:04.110 Brian U.: For me, when are you. 851 01:26:04.440 --> 01:26:05.790 Brian U.: When when are you gonna let. 852 01:26:06.120 --> 01:26:07.890 Dwight Schrute: You gotta like frisky them at the door. 853 01:26:08.250 --> 01:26:15.480 Dwight Schrute: When I say you got to make sure that they clean got like a whopping they're like they can't leave the room whenever they want to. 854 01:26:16.320 --> 01:26:19.620 Brian U.: yeah but there's no barriers of entry for the housing first model. 855 01:26:20.250 --> 01:26:24.810 Brian U.: You can use you don't have to do anything is that system, make any sense to you guys. 856 01:26:25.500 --> 01:26:32.880 Brian U.: I mean Mike and and and the City Council everybody goes hey if we offer housing, they want it all these people want house. 857 01:26:33.540 --> 01:26:53.400 Brian U.: Well, maybe that's true maybe it isn't true or they all want housing, I think, Pat, you made a comment that they're kind of buying them to get off the boardwalk by promising them a hotel and then a voucher Is that what you said, Pat, and so do they really want the housing or they or. 858 01:26:54.570 --> 01:26:58.290 Pat Raphael: I mean, the first thing Eric said, was it feels close enough you take it. 859 01:26:59.370 --> 01:26:59.760 Pat Raphael: So. 860 01:27:00.300 --> 01:27:01.440 Pat Raphael: If you try to. 861 01:27:02.790 --> 01:27:03.720 Pat Raphael: send them to. 862 01:27:05.550 --> 01:27:10.380 Pat Raphael: pass the data, I mean it might take a little more convincing but. 863 01:27:12.300 --> 01:27:14.730 Pat Raphael: People are here because they want to be here, I suppose. 864 01:27:17.130 --> 01:27:22.050 Brian U.: I mean, do you think is feasible to build 10,000 housing units and Venice to house our. 865 01:27:23.940 --> 01:27:25.920 Brian U.: Our homeless that's where it should all be. 866 01:27:31.050 --> 01:27:31.680 Brian U.: To just. 867 01:27:33.000 --> 01:27:34.920 frank murphy: Let me ask you this is the. 868 01:27:36.300 --> 01:27:36.810 frank murphy: The. 869 01:27:38.970 --> 01:27:44.820 frank murphy: fact that somebody hits the streets, from whatever, for whatever reason. 870 01:27:46.050 --> 01:27:47.820 frank murphy: The streets themselves. 871 01:27:49.290 --> 01:27:50.580 frank murphy: deal a blow that. 872 01:27:53.070 --> 01:28:04.560 frank murphy: makes the mental illness that actually creates the mental illness, I mean you know, everybody hears about ptsd and all that kind of stuff does that come from the street itself. 873 01:28:11.250 --> 01:28:12.540 frank murphy: you're on mute dwight. 874 01:28:15.780 --> 01:28:16.800 Brian U.: This name is Eric. 875 01:28:17.550 --> 01:28:18.450 frank murphy: Oh i'm trying to be. 876 01:28:19.770 --> 01:28:22.050 frank murphy: Here Eric sorry about that. 877 01:28:22.770 --> 01:28:33.780 Dwight Schrute: So good yeah yeah, I think, so no like some some some mental illness is probably the with all those show up until they're putting that in that moment. 878 01:28:34.230 --> 01:28:34.680 Right. 879 01:28:35.850 --> 01:28:37.140 Dwight Schrute: Fight or flight moment right. 880 01:28:37.770 --> 01:28:38.100 yeah. 881 01:28:41.880 --> 01:28:43.680 clark brown: I have a question is, is it quieter Eric. 882 01:28:44.340 --> 01:28:44.790 Brian U.: Is Eric. 883 01:28:44.820 --> 01:28:45.750 frank murphy: Sorry Eric. 884 01:28:45.780 --> 01:28:47.970 clark brown: Your screen says like no yeah. 885 01:28:48.540 --> 01:28:49.530 clark brown: The arguments. 886 01:28:49.590 --> 01:28:54.750 clark brown: That I frequently heard in supportive permanent housing is that if you provide. 887 01:28:55.440 --> 01:29:08.370 clark brown: People with permanent housing, that is the best way to help them cope with their mental health problems and their addiction problems because it gives them security, and you know one thing like that, do you think that's a valid argument. 888 01:29:10.200 --> 01:29:10.950 Dwight Schrute: yeah I believe so. 889 01:29:12.270 --> 01:29:19.800 Dwight Schrute: You know i'm like I was saying before sometimes people you know they're doing it just to get through the night, you know, so making more bearable. 890 01:29:20.940 --> 01:29:26.010 Dwight Schrute: If you got housing, you know, maybe, maybe that could be like the beginning of moving in the right direction. 891 01:29:30.960 --> 01:29:38.670 Brian U.: Do you think there should be consequences for your behavior meaning like y'all give you housing, but you have to go into a recovery program or. 892 01:29:39.540 --> 01:29:40.980 Dwight Schrute: That sounds like a great idea. 893 01:29:42.000 --> 01:29:43.200 Brian U.: yeah like. 894 01:29:43.230 --> 01:29:45.840 Dwight Schrute: A Carolina yeah yeah i'm in a House you. 895 01:29:45.870 --> 01:29:46.050 gotta. 896 01:29:47.130 --> 01:29:49.950 Brian U.: You gotta do of diversion you have to do some sort of. 897 01:29:52.200 --> 01:29:54.330 Dwight Schrute: detox exactly. 898 01:29:55.620 --> 01:29:56.220 Dwight Schrute: And do you think. 899 01:29:56.370 --> 01:30:00.540 Brian U.: You think you think people would be willing to do that. 900 01:30:03.300 --> 01:30:06.600 Dwight Schrute: People won't but the ones that do hopefully they can get out of it. 901 01:30:07.740 --> 01:30:08.070 yeah. 902 01:30:12.360 --> 01:30:12.720 Brian U.: Totally. 903 01:30:13.920 --> 01:30:15.090 Brian U.: yeah totally agree. 904 01:30:16.410 --> 01:30:17.400 Dwight Schrute: Oh, we can do is try. 905 01:30:18.510 --> 01:30:18.840 Vicki Halliday: yeah. 906 01:30:19.350 --> 01:30:19.770 yeah. 907 01:30:23.220 --> 01:30:24.690 Brian U.: Do you have any questions for us. 908 01:30:26.040 --> 01:30:38.400 Brian U.: Like if you had something you wanted to ask us to do if to reach out and say hey if, could you guys get the city council or loss or somebody to do this for us what What would you ask us to do. 909 01:30:45.240 --> 01:30:46.500 Dwight Schrute: Like to help the homeless. 910 01:30:47.010 --> 01:30:47.940 Vicki Halliday: yeah yeah. 911 01:30:48.180 --> 01:30:48.570 yeah. 912 01:30:50.250 --> 01:31:04.470 Dwight Schrute: We already I think we already said it you don't i'm saying like like dude like that they do what they did before, but it's you know talk to the to the Community first you know what i'm saying like like so that the right people get the help. 913 01:31:05.580 --> 01:31:09.480 Dwight Schrute: So that we can clear clear up so clear so space out here, you know. 914 01:31:10.860 --> 01:31:11.610 Dwight Schrute: Like. 915 01:31:11.850 --> 01:31:12.840 Dwight Schrute: Do it the right way. 916 01:31:14.460 --> 01:31:26.880 Brian U.: Could could we get five people like you, that know the streets that are willing to help that might take a job to help these outreach teams identify people that are the most vulnerable, that we could do more. 917 01:31:27.240 --> 01:31:36.030 Dwight Schrute: attention on quicker they're all here so most some of them are on the call them, you know I don't know that all their names, but everybody calls him oh geez. 918 01:31:36.780 --> 01:31:38.790 Dwight Schrute: yeah and they're like the really old. 919 01:31:38.790 --> 01:31:46.320 Dwight Schrute: Dudes they always got something that says Venice on them, or they got one of those has it says oh geez only you know saying all those Dudes. 920 01:31:46.680 --> 01:31:47.460 they've been here stands. 921 01:31:48.720 --> 01:31:49.020 Brian U.: stands. 922 01:31:50.250 --> 01:31:51.660 Dwight Schrute: or not you seen him oh. 923 01:31:53.040 --> 01:31:53.460 Brian U.: yeah. 924 01:31:53.880 --> 01:31:56.160 Brian U.: The army now you got back there and. 925 01:31:57.270 --> 01:31:57.570 Brian U.: yeah. 926 01:31:58.290 --> 01:32:00.000 Dwight Schrute: yeah yeah they out there. 927 01:32:01.050 --> 01:32:04.380 Dwight Schrute: You know yeah I can help point you in the right direction, soon, I mean. 928 01:32:06.660 --> 01:32:07.500 Brian U.: you're you're new. 929 01:32:07.560 --> 01:32:08.730 And you're muted Stan. 930 01:32:10.290 --> 01:32:21.090 Ansar Muhammad: I said I didn't tell you that, but i've been i've been in business, all my life on the fourth generation Venice born and raised form of Venice show line Chris and some of my friends is out there with you man so. 931 01:32:21.300 --> 01:32:31.650 Ansar Muhammad: yeah I want to definitely make contact with you, after this conversation, so we can see what we can do man because something needs to change, and this is one thing to have all these. 932 01:32:32.280 --> 01:32:42.630 Ansar Muhammad: Agencies out there they're supposed to be helping but something is not working is broken and yeah you need to be involved and need to be empowered. 933 01:32:44.040 --> 01:32:45.420 Ansar Muhammad: forward to working with you matt. 934 01:32:46.290 --> 01:32:51.720 Ansar Muhammad: You probably will down below here, you know, to really know you know. 935 01:32:52.950 --> 01:32:54.090 Ansar Muhammad: Peter and lily. 936 01:32:54.960 --> 01:32:55.620 Dwight Schrute: I don't know them. 937 01:32:56.190 --> 01:32:56.610 Okay. 938 01:32:58.410 --> 01:33:00.390 Dwight Schrute: But I probably know them by face. 939 01:33:00.810 --> 01:33:01.560 Ansar Muhammad: i'm sure you have. 940 01:33:02.460 --> 01:33:05.040 Ansar Muhammad: That little spike you know spike. 941 01:33:06.270 --> 01:33:07.980 Dwight Schrute: spike spike spike spike. 942 01:33:10.950 --> 01:33:11.280 Brian U.: hair. 943 01:33:12.090 --> 01:33:12.510 Dwight Schrute: yeah. 944 01:33:13.320 --> 01:33:14.460 Brian U.: You know, bear yeah. 945 01:33:15.360 --> 01:33:16.530 Dwight Schrute: I know Barry yeah Hello. 946 01:33:18.360 --> 01:33:18.810 Brian U.: yeah he's. 947 01:33:19.260 --> 01:33:24.750 Brian U.: walking he loves this room at the boardwalk I mean in the bridge housing. 948 01:33:24.990 --> 01:33:29.280 Brian U.: So you can get a shower is me Okay, I get back to the boardwalk the dual residents. 949 01:33:30.840 --> 01:33:38.940 Ansar Muhammad: And I think we should have more these conversations and get more folks like yourself and others in this conversation and yeah. 950 01:33:39.060 --> 01:33:39.900 Ansar Muhammad: yeah hey can. 951 01:33:40.290 --> 01:33:40.860 Brian U.: We set it. 952 01:33:41.610 --> 01:33:43.170 Brian U.: up that I set that up stand. 953 01:33:43.530 --> 01:33:44.430 Ansar Muhammad: yeah absolutely. 954 01:33:45.480 --> 01:33:58.950 Ansar Muhammad: Let me do the voices that being seen need to hear these are the voice that I need here, these are the voices that shows up here, these are the voices that all the service providers need to hear these words is right here. 955 01:33:59.490 --> 01:34:03.570 Brian U.: And I know we can also get we can get them a job, I mean we can get you paid why why. 956 01:34:03.660 --> 01:34:05.070 Brian U.: Why you're doing your dream. 957 01:34:05.700 --> 01:34:18.900 Brian U.: And comics and all that we can we can get you paid to join one of you can come to share and get paid we you know we we can find work for you, if you want to be a part of the solution, which is great, you have such great knowledge. 958 01:34:19.230 --> 01:34:20.880 Dwight Schrute: Of the straight sounds good man I. 959 01:34:22.200 --> 01:34:31.710 Dwight Schrute: was like i'm i'm excited to be here, you know meeting all really all yeah like I didn't even know stuff like this is going on, Pat was one of the told me come in and speak my mind. 960 01:34:32.430 --> 01:34:32.850 yeah. 961 01:34:35.760 --> 01:34:37.320 Brian U.: Stan pays really well. 962 01:34:37.350 --> 01:34:38.730 Brian U.: You just benefits there. 963 01:34:39.000 --> 01:34:40.320 Dwight Schrute: yeah Nice. 964 01:34:43.230 --> 01:34:43.800 Brian U.: let's do that. 965 01:34:45.060 --> 01:34:48.210 Ansar Muhammad: We can get a number on Eric and i'll be around the world, we can go. 966 01:34:48.990 --> 01:34:49.470 Dwight Schrute: Well, though. 967 01:34:53.010 --> 01:34:55.110 Brian U.: Just just pat know how to find you or. 968 01:34:56.100 --> 01:34:59.940 Pat Raphael: yeah yeah I speak to him and see him frequently enough. 969 01:35:02.760 --> 01:35:07.230 Ansar Muhammad: right on the South side of the the dog park right. 970 01:35:07.950 --> 01:35:09.600 Ansar Muhammad: yeah okay. 971 01:35:11.250 --> 01:35:11.790 Ansar Muhammad: Minister. 972 01:35:13.530 --> 01:35:16.410 Dwight Schrute: Know like i'm like in the dog park. 973 01:35:16.710 --> 01:35:17.940 Brian U.: When you're in the parking lot. 974 01:35:18.180 --> 01:35:19.560 Dwight Schrute: In the park in the parking lot. 975 01:35:19.560 --> 01:35:20.670 Brian U.: yeah and. 976 01:35:22.110 --> 01:35:24.540 Brian U.: that's where you saw that's where you met the circle guys. 977 01:35:25.440 --> 01:35:27.120 Brian U.: Yes, because they're. 978 01:35:27.720 --> 01:35:32.580 Brian U.: taking over as circles taken over the westminister senior Center for their headquarters. 979 01:35:32.700 --> 01:35:33.660 Dwight Schrute: yeah they did. 980 01:35:34.650 --> 01:35:37.500 Brian U.: yeah wonder what happened at the Venice recovery Center in there. 981 01:35:37.560 --> 01:35:39.840 Dwight Schrute: yeah if you ever thirsty man circle got that water. 982 01:35:40.320 --> 01:35:40.830 yeah. 983 01:35:42.750 --> 01:35:43.140 Brian U.: yeah. 984 01:35:44.130 --> 01:35:44.820 frank murphy: All right. 985 01:35:45.390 --> 01:35:46.770 Ansar Muhammad: let's talk man, thank you. 986 01:35:48.180 --> 01:35:51.180 Brian U.: Thank you Eric Thank you buddy. 987 01:35:51.690 --> 01:35:52.860 frank murphy: This was really good. 988 01:35:54.180 --> 01:35:57.840 Ansar Muhammad: To do part two, we want to have a Roundtable discussion. 989 01:35:59.820 --> 01:36:01.020 frank murphy: will do a part two, on. 990 01:36:01.710 --> 01:36:02.430 Absolutely. 991 01:36:03.840 --> 01:36:05.580 Elizabeth Wright: Thank you so much for sharing. 992 01:36:06.030 --> 01:36:06.240 Thank. 993 01:36:07.470 --> 01:36:09.300 Vicki Halliday: Look at comic con this weekend. 994 01:36:09.840 --> 01:36:10.470 Dwight Schrute: Thank you. 995 01:36:12.480 --> 01:36:13.320 Brian U.: yeah. 996 01:36:14.340 --> 01:36:15.750 Vicki Halliday: I hope so it's great. 997 01:36:19.620 --> 01:36:40.260 Pat Raphael: I just had a little bit of a time crunch happened to me with the with the some other matter going on, so i'm gonna sign off for the rest of the meeting I know we've already voted on the main thing we were going to a going to emotional and so this is. 998 01:36:41.160 --> 01:36:41.670 Brian U.: The advice. 999 01:36:42.300 --> 01:36:45.600 frank murphy: Thanks for in touch with us today that was great. 1000 01:36:46.380 --> 01:36:49.740 Pat Raphael: Great great sherry Thank you again Eric for participating. 1001 01:36:52.140 --> 01:36:52.680 Vicki Halliday: Thank you. 1002 01:36:53.550 --> 01:36:54.300 frank murphy: Alright guys. 1003 01:36:54.720 --> 01:36:56.520 frank murphy: Okay, great. 1004 01:36:57.390 --> 01:37:02.190 Vicki Halliday: I see a couple of hands up um did we want to have any comment. 1005 01:37:03.090 --> 01:37:08.190 frank murphy: Do you mind taking some questions from the folks on the public on Eric. 1006 01:37:09.990 --> 01:37:13.050 frank murphy: You want to spend a few extra minutes on here. 1007 01:37:15.570 --> 01:37:18.300 Vicki Halliday: yeah I mean you don't have to if you don't want to, but. 1008 01:37:19.740 --> 01:37:20.070 Dwight Schrute: anything. 1009 01:37:20.670 --> 01:37:21.480 yeah. 1010 01:37:25.290 --> 01:37:25.530 frank murphy: yeah. 1011 01:37:28.710 --> 01:37:33.900 Lisa Redmond: hey Eric i'm hi i'm Lisa we've met before um I. 1012 01:37:34.350 --> 01:37:42.750 Lisa Redmond: don't really have a question for you, I just wanted to comment on the discussion about people moving to places where. 1013 01:37:44.010 --> 01:37:50.670 Lisa Redmond: There are doing a campaign to home situation and my point was going to be that. 1014 01:37:52.620 --> 01:37:58.590 Lisa Redmond: brian's actually a little wrong, even though those lists were made, they still let more and more people in. 1015 01:37:59.370 --> 01:38:20.160 Lisa Redmond: After the lists were made on the boardwalk even in West Chester park people showed up late and they got housing and it really, I think, points out to the desperate need that people have for housing that when people hear that housing is being given out the desk they move. 1016 01:38:21.000 --> 01:38:35.940 Lisa Redmond: And they moved from third street they move from a venison electric out to the boardwalk they moved from Lincoln and flower just to get their housing and a lot of them did people did that, a year ago they moved from those places over to. 1017 01:38:36.420 --> 01:38:37.410 Lisa Redmond: The rose pepfar. 1018 01:38:37.620 --> 01:38:56.490 Lisa Redmond: To get that housing, so it does happen that people do that in I think that's also you know, yes it's a promise, but people desperately want that to get inside and that's why they are getting you know rates of people like 90%. 1019 01:38:57.600 --> 01:39:05.520 Lisa Redmond: You know, going in from those places, yes, they said no to some people, as you were talking that national news does happen, and when people heard. 1020 01:39:05.940 --> 01:39:18.210 Lisa Redmond: In Colorado that they were giving out housing on the boardwalk and moved out say Joseph did tell those people know, but people that they knew from other parts of Venice they gave it to him um. 1021 01:39:19.320 --> 01:39:36.390 Lisa Redmond: So, and then that does create empty spaces, so people move to that, but then also people didn't want to be bothered by the Sheriff so right after they cleared, you know the under the four or five that that is a Globe that's how that repopulated so people moved up there too. 1022 01:39:39.120 --> 01:39:52.020 Lisa Redmond: So I guess I just really wanted to say that that's also a problem with location based encampment removal is that when everyone wants an encampment instantly gone. 1023 01:39:52.530 --> 01:40:09.300 Lisa Redmond: But when you prioritize public property that way that's going to happen, people are going to move they're going to take advantage of situation and it flies in the face of the coordinated entry system where people that are more desperate and definitely need housing probably. 1024 01:40:10.680 --> 01:40:28.350 Lisa Redmond: More so than maybe healthy 20 somethings on the beach doing drugs, but yet you've got your citizens on third who have like you know, cancer and diabetes and heart conditions they lose out because they don't have the health to instantly up and move over to the boardwalk so. 1025 01:40:28.410 --> 01:40:31.020 Brian U.: Turn where we have already known those people so. 1026 01:40:31.320 --> 01:40:32.460 Lisa Redmond: You know, but. 1027 01:40:32.520 --> 01:40:34.290 Brian U.: As you should yeah that's what I made. 1028 01:40:34.530 --> 01:40:40.200 Lisa Redmond: points out, you know outreach is kind of doesn't happen as well as it should. 1029 01:40:40.770 --> 01:40:53.130 Lisa Redmond: So um and that's where if outreach would work more with people like Eric or with people like me who know people more so because we're out there on the street every day. 1030 01:40:53.760 --> 01:41:06.180 Lisa Redmond: That you know, would be a benefit, but you know there's like a a brick wall that those Lhasa and St Joseph people don't want to cross and they say it's all privacy and simple standards and. 1031 01:41:07.290 --> 01:41:09.810 Lisa Redmond: that's that's part of the problem to that. 1032 01:41:10.440 --> 01:41:11.280 Brian U.: How do we improve. 1033 01:41:11.310 --> 01:41:14.070 Lisa Redmond: Public partner private partnerships that way. 1034 01:41:15.450 --> 01:41:17.430 Lisa Redmond: You know it's a thank you for saying this. 1035 01:41:17.850 --> 01:41:29.670 Brian U.: How how we, how do we get better outreach I mean you know the neighborhood would think okay $5 million went to do outreach on the boardwalk for St Joe. 1036 01:41:31.170 --> 01:41:39.540 Brian U.: And they've been also doing outreach for the last 10 years in this stuff yeah How do we make this better I mean if if this is the outcome that we're hearing. 1037 01:41:40.020 --> 01:41:45.480 Brian U.: And I don't want to bash St Joe I don't know what story they get or who they have doing this outreach but. 1038 01:41:46.110 --> 01:41:57.390 Brian U.: yeah it's a consolidated effort to do outreach now path did it in the park and and last is doing it and and St Joe what's what's the answer Lisa to get better outreach. 1039 01:41:58.050 --> 01:42:12.390 Brian U.: Because I know you do it every day, and you do a great job at, but how do we get that person that sick and doing cancer on third and third street to get a priority over somebody on the boardwalk are we just doing the boardwalk to change the optics politically. 1040 01:42:12.780 --> 01:42:13.050 Brian U.: or. 1041 01:42:13.320 --> 01:42:14.700 Lisa Redmond: Should we really so. 1042 01:42:16.230 --> 01:42:21.810 Brian U.: Maybe maybe we should move everybody to the boardwalk and then the TV cameras to come and then everybody would get out. 1043 01:42:22.140 --> 01:42:26.010 Lisa Redmond: yeah well i'm trying to take some of that leftover $5 million. 1044 01:42:26.100 --> 01:42:39.960 Lisa Redmond: You know us to get people, you know that need housing in other parts of Venice, and I think it's going to happen is, but you know that as an electric people got swept away and are gone now but um. 1045 01:42:40.890 --> 01:42:51.240 Lisa Redmond: You know it's it's tricky because the St Joseph Center and those people there's so few of them and so many people that need housing and they cover. 1046 01:42:51.570 --> 01:43:01.860 Lisa Redmond: A wide area, the loss of people, you know i'll run into the same loss of people in mar vista and West Chester because they'll have one day in Venice and one day there and one day is another place. 1047 01:43:02.220 --> 01:43:08.730 Lisa Redmond: That there's no way that they can know everyone personally like I do in Venice or so. 1048 01:43:09.600 --> 01:43:21.810 Lisa Redmond: I really have been pushing for a long time with Michael on and and and the service providers that they really need to learn to get to know people within the area that may be like me that is a trusted source. 1049 01:43:22.230 --> 01:43:30.450 Lisa Redmond: That they could you know partner with in a nice Public Private kind of partnership kind of like what Regina weller was doing a little bit. 1050 01:43:31.500 --> 01:43:33.030 Brian U.: Alright sounds yeah. 1051 01:43:33.570 --> 01:43:34.230 Brian U.: we're doing to. 1052 01:43:34.890 --> 01:43:39.030 Vicki Halliday: stand, I see that love has joined us i'm trying to promote it. 1053 01:43:39.180 --> 01:43:39.450 and 1054 01:43:41.550 --> 01:43:42.090 Ansar Muhammad: I think. 1055 01:43:42.570 --> 01:43:43.590 Brian U.: Lisa Thank you. 1056 01:43:45.480 --> 01:43:46.560 Ansar Muhammad: I think if we can get. 1057 01:43:46.590 --> 01:43:47.250 frank murphy: Thanks Lisa. 1058 01:43:47.880 --> 01:43:49.830 Ansar Muhammad: I know we're going to be pressed for time but. 1059 01:43:51.990 --> 01:44:01.590 Ansar Muhammad: spy we have a small contract with spot, we have two people working over there to do exactly what lisa's talking about outreach. 1060 01:44:02.370 --> 01:44:13.200 Ansar Muhammad: And one thing that we were big on dealing with do getting issue is our people have to have what we call the license to operate the Al to. 1061 01:44:13.800 --> 01:44:23.400 Ansar Muhammad: If my guys that's representing Venice doing gang work does not have the lt yo did not going to be effective, with diminished show lies with the 13th. 1062 01:44:24.060 --> 01:44:37.500 Ansar Muhammad: same thing with this is what i'm hearing is Eric have an email to ISA has an email to, and I think we should start having this conversation with the service provider and saying look subcontract some of this work out. 1063 01:44:38.130 --> 01:44:44.130 Ansar Muhammad: Without we have the license to operate with the population that is most. 1064 01:44:45.090 --> 01:44:56.460 Ansar Muhammad: In need, and I think if we can have that conversation we might get somewhere, because I did to us, they knew that without having to help her foundation and partied with them. 1065 01:44:56.880 --> 01:45:12.150 Ansar Muhammad: They would not be able to outreach to the homeless gang members that's business, so they put us into the mix and now we're the ones is providing a service, as it would have sub contract was firestone same assess the same approach here. 1066 01:45:13.080 --> 01:45:13.860 Brian U.: In early great. 1067 01:45:14.040 --> 01:45:18.960 Ansar Muhammad: need to be work Lisa need to be others that have those LTE or. 1068 01:45:20.340 --> 01:45:30.540 Ansar Muhammad: Population need to be working and maybe emotion can be put together Clark on that phone F point and let the service providers know that you need to be contracting either with. 1069 01:45:31.530 --> 01:45:47.190 Ansar Muhammad: The consultants or agency like ours or equity partnership agreements like Lisa was saying, and then have a pool of those folks is from Venice or that that is indigenous or understand this landscape and understand these folks is there and contract. 1070 01:45:49.080 --> 01:45:53.730 Ansar Muhammad: Because I was weapons is not from Venice, I mean it's only it's only thing not. 1071 01:45:54.780 --> 01:45:57.960 Ansar Muhammad: To be quite honest from Venice oh yeah. 1072 01:45:59.850 --> 01:46:01.890 Ansar Muhammad: we've been having your water. 1073 01:46:02.910 --> 01:46:11.130 Brian U.: But we need to do pilot programs that then get shown publicly at the outcomes, I mean RON hooks from the. 1074 01:46:12.690 --> 01:46:15.480 Brian U.: West Coast care, you did 372. 1075 01:46:17.790 --> 01:46:24.960 Brian U.: Rhea Rhea what's it called when you send a reunification, you know the small group great guide nose the nose the beach. 1076 01:46:25.350 --> 01:46:36.540 Brian U.: You know, you know know the streets know inside share does this, you know the sheriff's hosting those guys look and they have a license to operate because they can make decisions. 1077 01:46:37.350 --> 01:46:50.100 Brian U.: I think that's that's one of the things that the St joe's or the outreach workers they don't have the power to make decisions it's black or white, you can do this, or you can do this not specifically I think that's what you're saying to stamp. 1078 01:46:51.780 --> 01:46:52.470 Ansar Muhammad: Absolutely. 1079 01:46:53.940 --> 01:46:54.330 Ansar Muhammad: No don't. 1080 01:46:58.140 --> 01:47:00.570 Vicki Halliday: Bring love into the conversation. 1081 01:47:06.690 --> 01:47:09.690 Ansar Muhammad: About you will only have three minutes left or one part two. 1082 01:47:12.870 --> 01:47:15.390 Ansar Muhammad: Can you come off and move and share a little bit with us, please. 1083 01:47:18.540 --> 01:47:20.160 frank murphy: She there let's see. 1084 01:47:20.790 --> 01:47:22.110 Ansar Muhammad: You have to come off of mute. 1085 01:47:22.380 --> 01:47:24.570 Vicki Halliday: yeah that's good to unmute she's not. 1086 01:47:25.620 --> 01:47:26.070 Ansar Muhammad: Only. 1087 01:47:27.750 --> 01:47:31.200 Dwight Schrute: Does that Sophie who be over there by on by rose. 1088 01:47:31.410 --> 01:47:32.700 Ansar Muhammad: yeah that's her. 1089 01:47:32.760 --> 01:47:33.930 Dwight Schrute: With the tables anything. 1090 01:47:34.620 --> 01:47:37.170 Dwight Schrute: Yes, well habits or tables. 1091 01:47:38.490 --> 01:47:40.170 Ansar Muhammad: She can share with us to him, you. 1092 01:47:41.070 --> 01:47:44.190 Sove love: Okay, I think I may be here, but i'm having a dream. 1093 01:47:45.630 --> 01:47:46.410 Ansar Muhammad: Last weekend. 1094 01:47:46.680 --> 01:47:47.430 sob. 1095 01:47:49.380 --> 01:48:04.920 Sove love: Okay um I guess I need to try to speak their best because i'm about to run out of battery I know it sounds crazy but i'll explain that later, but if I could just say that, like all of the restaurants that. 1096 01:48:05.940 --> 01:48:09.750 Sove love: have been living room the dining room set out on the street. 1097 01:48:10.920 --> 01:48:24.180 Sove love: The RD and fans the people living in their cars, they should be able to have designated little pieces on the street about 15 1600 16,500. 1098 01:48:25.440 --> 01:48:48.060 Sove love: homeless people living in Los Angeles county about 50,000 blocks or three in Los Angeles county so let's be enough plenty of overflow leftovers to leave in Part one rv on i'm speaking of one band here that mean, it would be ideal if the people is because to do. 1099 01:48:49.080 --> 01:48:51.420 Sove love: For the addressing location or the. 1100 01:48:52.680 --> 01:49:01.260 Sove love: Whatever that house is the House interest is 1500 left lane to stay rb 1500 left lane if I knew how to get be able to keep an eye contact form. 1101 01:49:02.220 --> 01:49:14.580 Sove love: For any type of illegal, it is useful and medical issues or trying to contact them for any type of benefits for instance service type stuff that's the best I could do is sign it gets really put my phone died. 1102 01:49:18.450 --> 01:49:18.960 Sove love: That you guys. 1103 01:49:21.660 --> 01:49:22.410 Sove love: understand. 1104 01:49:24.210 --> 01:49:28.740 Ansar Muhammad: What do you think the knees and losses with done housing the beneficiary of the business community. 1105 01:49:29.610 --> 01:49:32.400 Sove love: Right now i'm getting designated. 1106 01:49:33.690 --> 01:49:43.080 Sove love: Meeting five let's say, like, for instance, two one go to this, but they they were in at last night with somebody else except they're set up a little a little blanket or. 1107 01:49:43.950 --> 01:49:54.960 Sove love: Their car broke up there should be in this is nothing but basically this the reason you don't have to have numbers on the name is the same as everybody knows, somebody we are waiting for people to give it a go at night. 1108 01:49:56.640 --> 01:49:57.300 Sove love: that's the beginning. 1109 01:50:00.930 --> 01:50:03.240 Ansar Muhammad: How long have you been then finish with love. 1110 01:50:05.250 --> 01:50:12.750 Sove love: I don't know that I found myself, I really don't I don't even remember the details I just don't like adobe. 1111 01:50:14.610 --> 01:50:16.710 Sove love: And I hear about my stuff on here as. 1112 01:50:20.280 --> 01:50:29.070 Ansar Muhammad: Well, thank you for joining us, I hope we can have a deeper discussion with you and your voice and you missed some great don. 1113 01:50:30.900 --> 01:50:32.820 Ansar Muhammad: But i'm hoping we can have a part two. 1114 01:50:33.660 --> 01:50:34.050 I know. 1115 01:50:35.970 --> 01:50:40.890 Sove love: That i'm not I noticed my phone is going to die so nice and it's not today. 1116 01:50:42.870 --> 01:50:53.160 Sove love: But I appreciate you guys for inviting us to get guys always working hard to spend 15 and i'm through that wouldn't be able to communicate a lot of things I have lots of ideas. 1117 01:50:54.450 --> 01:51:00.300 Sove love: And I is thrown in contact with a lot of people that have ideas to life, and so on. 1118 01:51:03.540 --> 01:51:04.440 frank murphy: Thanks so much. 1119 01:51:04.710 --> 01:51:06.060 frank murphy: appreciate very much. 1120 01:51:08.100 --> 01:51:08.550 Vicki Halliday: we've got I. 1121 01:51:08.640 --> 01:51:09.960 Sove love: think that the for inviting. 1122 01:51:11.340 --> 01:51:11.880 Brian U.: awesome. 1123 01:51:12.450 --> 01:51:13.290 Brian U.: Thank you so much. 1124 01:51:13.560 --> 01:51:16.320 Vicki Halliday: we've got a couple of hands up um. 1125 01:51:17.460 --> 01:51:20.370 Vicki Halliday: there's a colon user one. 1126 01:51:25.830 --> 01:51:35.970 Call-In User_1: Yes, good evening i'm a resident of the city of Los Angeles, and I have a couple questions, I believe, for Eric if he'd be kind enough to answer them I would appreciate them. 1127 01:51:36.420 --> 01:51:46.380 Call-In User_1: The answers I had three questions prior to your arrival in Venice, did you have a conventional form of housing, such as an apartment or house. 1128 01:51:46.950 --> 01:52:07.800 Call-In User_1: To would you voluntarily participate in a medical evaluation to determine your mental status and three mentioned, you are residing in an rv ask where you empty the biological waste from that rv Thank you i'd appreciate the answers have a nice evening. 1129 01:52:11.610 --> 01:52:12.330 Dwight Schrute: Number one again. 1130 01:52:16.140 --> 01:52:18.030 Elizabeth Wright: If you live in conventional housing. 1131 01:52:19.590 --> 01:52:19.980 Dwight Schrute: Yes. 1132 01:52:20.040 --> 01:52:21.150 frank murphy: I yeah. 1133 01:52:21.420 --> 01:52:24.150 Dwight Schrute: I was on I used to live in Huntington park. 1134 01:52:25.320 --> 01:52:28.560 Dwight Schrute: And I had a regular apartment and then i'm. 1135 01:52:29.880 --> 01:52:37.290 Dwight Schrute: Situation happened with with my wife's business or partner, which was a brother and we ended up being homeless at that time. 1136 01:52:37.950 --> 01:52:49.590 Dwight Schrute: And then um she when she got help was was easier for her to do by yourself and then I went you know going on separate ways and stuff that we try to work it out again and stuff like that, but um was number two are. 1137 01:52:51.600 --> 01:52:57.420 Call-In User_1: You ready to voluntarily participate in a medical evaluation to determine your mental status. 1138 01:52:59.550 --> 01:53:00.480 Dwight Schrute: i'm. 1139 01:53:05.460 --> 01:53:09.360 Call-In User_1: just saying, because the board members were asking about their. 1140 01:53:10.560 --> 01:53:21.420 Call-In User_1: people experiencing homelessness and there's there's all this talk of mental note quote unquote normal and all these words of people having mental issues. 1141 01:53:21.840 --> 01:53:39.150 Call-In User_1: And it's hard for the person themselves to either admit or there because of their mental, that is, they are unable, they don't know that they are quote unquote not normal so, would you be if if you if the city authorities. 1142 01:53:40.320 --> 01:53:41.040 Call-In User_1: participants. 1143 01:53:46.590 --> 01:53:48.330 frank murphy: Nobody on this panel is. 1144 01:53:51.150 --> 01:54:09.570 Call-In User_1: I was saying quote unquote because I don't know what the appropriate terminology would would you voluntarily participate if the city in lieu of a housing to determine how to appropriately assist you in terms of perhaps rehabilitation and housing. 1145 01:54:10.890 --> 01:54:20.340 Call-In User_1: Services in terms of getting employment, would you voluntarily participate in the last question is where do you empty your the contents of your rv the biological waste, thank you. 1146 01:54:20.460 --> 01:54:23.790 Dwight Schrute: So there's a spot over there Doug wilder that they do it for free. 1147 01:54:26.130 --> 01:54:26.790 Dwight Schrute: You know you go. 1148 01:54:27.300 --> 01:54:36.450 Dwight Schrute: There certain days of the week is certain different different times and you go there and then you know you got to do everything yourself, but you know the guy there's real cool and everything. 1149 01:54:37.440 --> 01:54:42.270 Call-In User_1: and go there, like thank you for doing so because many because many neighborhoods complained that. 1150 01:54:43.350 --> 01:54:48.270 Call-In User_1: The people occupying rv, and this is why many. 1151 01:54:48.330 --> 01:54:58.650 Call-In User_1: Community Members are very get very upset because they witness other people occupying our movies simply. 1152 01:54:59.730 --> 01:55:15.840 Call-In User_1: dumping them in the street or moving just into a hole in the streets, but I hope you see, that is why there is sometimes Why are people feel angry Why are people criminalizing the homeless, well when you see criminal behavior. 1153 01:55:16.800 --> 01:55:21.690 Call-In User_1: You call them a criminal but, but there are some boards and some neighborhood Councils. 1154 01:55:22.170 --> 01:55:37.710 Call-In User_1: Oh, my God like for me just my by my asking that question i'm sure i'm offending all of the board members currently on the line, but I appreciate taking the time to answer and being open to accepting the push pins and considering answering the questions, thank you for your time. 1155 01:55:38.250 --> 01:55:40.680 Dwight Schrute: yeah I skate on the streets, I don't want them 30. 1156 01:55:42.030 --> 01:55:45.300 Vicki Halliday: Thank you um next up Erica. 1157 01:55:47.880 --> 01:55:48.090 Erica Moore: hi. 1158 01:55:49.980 --> 01:55:59.100 Erica Moore: appreciated the conversation tonight it's really refreshing to hear a perspective from someone who is you know in that demographic and. 1159 01:55:59.550 --> 01:56:12.780 Erica Moore: And is living amongst a lot of people that are struggling I think it's really, really great that you guys want to create a panel to include a group of people like that to help be ambassadors i'm really all for that I also. 1160 01:56:13.830 --> 01:56:24.030 Erica Moore: have to really pose this question to you, because this really weighs on me and just doesn't make sense, I do not understand what Lisa redmond is not on your committee. 1161 01:56:24.570 --> 01:56:34.440 Erica Moore: She clearly is such a wealth of knowledge, I just it just doesn't make sense to me, I think the committee is obviously it's all public people but. 1162 01:56:34.800 --> 01:56:39.180 Erica Moore: I think that it's really important to include people like you got Sam who's out on the street to you. 1163 01:56:39.630 --> 01:56:53.790 Erica Moore: I think it's really important to have someone who knows who knows a lot of the laws, who is out there on the streets, as you all admit everyday dealing with this, I just doesn't it just baffles me that she's not on your committee that's what I have to say tonight thanks you guys. 1164 01:57:05.220 --> 01:57:05.700 frank murphy: alright. 1165 01:57:07.830 --> 01:57:08.100 frank murphy: Well, it. 1166 01:57:09.750 --> 01:57:12.990 frank murphy: seems to be all public comment yeah. 1167 01:57:15.810 --> 01:57:27.690 Brian U.: Eric one quick question we passed a motion tonight, they were trying to send to the City Council to start to enforce some of the laws that are on the books and one of the things is safe parking for vehicles. 1168 01:57:29.040 --> 01:57:43.350 Brian U.: If the law came and said Eric you now have to move that rv to a safe parking spot at La X, would you go and and if you don't go where would you go. 1169 01:57:44.970 --> 01:57:45.270 Vicki Halliday: you're. 1170 01:57:45.600 --> 01:57:46.740 Brian U.: On mute your MIC. 1171 01:57:53.070 --> 01:57:54.210 Dwight Schrute: outs, thus far. 1172 01:57:56.070 --> 01:57:57.270 Brian U.: Alright, I didn't I didn't hear you. 1173 01:57:57.960 --> 01:58:04.650 Dwight Schrute: yeah that's that's far away because you don't like i'm a vendors so like is convenient for me to be close. 1174 01:58:05.790 --> 01:58:14.550 Brian U.: Well, they they want you to be a vendor but they'd want you to sleep and park your vehicle to sleep in at a parking lot that's like a Co a campground like. 1175 01:58:14.640 --> 01:58:15.330 Dwight Schrute: yeah yeah. 1176 01:58:15.930 --> 01:58:21.060 Brian U.: And then take a shuttle or bus or whatever back to to Venice to do your goods. 1177 01:58:22.230 --> 01:58:27.360 Dwight Schrute: And whether this spot over there is going to have the the dope and the electric hooked up, and all this stuff. 1178 01:58:27.450 --> 01:58:33.360 Brian U.: All that yeah and bathrooms and outreach and showers and and and that as well. 1179 01:58:34.680 --> 01:58:41.340 Dwight Schrute: But that sounds interesting, you know that could just come back we'll be here on the weekends and do my work Friday Saturday Sunday and go back over there right. 1180 01:58:41.610 --> 01:58:45.480 Ansar Muhammad: yeah it's just like anything anybody that commutes to go to work. 1181 01:58:45.720 --> 01:58:50.700 Brian U.: You come to work and you and you go home back to your rv in that parking lot. 1182 01:58:52.110 --> 01:58:53.250 Brian U.: Wherever is designated. 1183 01:58:53.940 --> 01:58:54.900 Dwight Schrute: yeah yeah yeah. 1184 01:58:58.140 --> 01:58:59.400 Ansar Muhammad: Well, we should get the two minutes. 1185 01:59:02.310 --> 01:59:03.480 Ansar Muhammad: Because now you know. 1186 01:59:03.960 --> 01:59:04.650 Dwight Schrute: yeah yeah. 1187 01:59:08.580 --> 01:59:12.210 Ansar Muhammad: sure can move from minutes to westchester water. 1188 01:59:12.930 --> 01:59:15.150 Dwight Schrute: yeah what's it like like like 1520 minutes. 1189 01:59:15.690 --> 01:59:16.020 yeah. 1190 01:59:17.250 --> 01:59:17.700 Vicki Halliday: yeah. 1191 01:59:18.090 --> 01:59:20.010 frank murphy: 1015 depending on the time. 1192 01:59:21.480 --> 01:59:24.240 Brian U.: there's a lot of people that can be a couple hours to get us to come to. 1193 01:59:24.240 --> 01:59:25.470 frank murphy: Work oh yeah. 1194 01:59:25.560 --> 01:59:30.000 frank murphy: yeah a lot of people, a lot of people that used to live in Venice commuting a couple hours to Venice. 1195 01:59:30.270 --> 01:59:36.450 frank murphy: yeah living work here and now they gotta live in palmdale and other places. 1196 01:59:42.090 --> 01:59:44.400 Brian U.: Thanks dad got that House a long time ago. 1197 01:59:46.740 --> 01:59:48.330 frank murphy: Oh um. 1198 01:59:48.870 --> 01:59:49.500 Brian U.: let's wrap it up. 1199 01:59:49.530 --> 01:59:50.970 frank murphy: more questions for dwight. 1200 01:59:51.750 --> 01:59:52.890 dwight sorry. 1201 01:59:55.380 --> 01:59:58.110 frank murphy: I gotta get I gotta get that out of my head Eric. 1202 01:59:58.650 --> 01:59:59.070 yeah. 1203 02:00:02.010 --> 02:00:02.460 Vicki Halliday: i'm really. 1204 02:00:02.790 --> 02:00:05.130 Vicki Halliday: glad i'm going on that's great I really. 1205 02:00:07.230 --> 02:00:07.950 clark brown: Like very much. 1206 02:00:08.730 --> 02:00:09.870 frank murphy: Thank you, Sir. 1207 02:00:10.200 --> 02:00:11.610 Ansar Muhammad: we'll do a follow up with this. 1208 02:00:11.610 --> 02:00:12.030 Direct. 1209 02:00:15.330 --> 02:00:15.990 Dwight Schrute: Somebody to come in. 1210 02:00:16.800 --> 02:00:17.340 frank murphy: Good good. 1211 02:00:17.790 --> 02:00:19.020 frank murphy: Thank you got it man. 1212 02:00:19.710 --> 02:00:21.420 Brian U.: Though alright man. 1213 02:00:21.630 --> 02:00:25.260 Vicki Halliday: right here anything else. 1214 02:00:26.370 --> 02:00:36.000 frank murphy: No we're down to actually i'd like to bring up that one we were talking earlier about the question wait a minute wait wait, let me make sure we've gone through everything. 1215 02:00:37.380 --> 02:00:37.950 frank murphy: Get in trouble. 1216 02:00:40.680 --> 02:00:43.410 Brian U.: You don't have to stay Eric if you want to sign off that's cool. 1217 02:00:43.920 --> 02:00:47.190 Brian U.: yeah yeah you're welcome you're welcome you're welcome to sit and listen. 1218 02:00:49.290 --> 02:01:00.120 frank murphy: We wanted to do the committee comments on items, not on the agenda, so what uh you know I mean, I think this is time to talk about wearing the hell, are the motions going once the emotions get past. 1219 02:01:01.350 --> 02:01:08.910 frank murphy: You know, and I think we should put on them somehow some way, I mean we can discuss this further but. 1220 02:01:10.050 --> 02:01:11.610 frank murphy: yeah I mean. 1221 02:01:11.790 --> 02:01:12.060 frank murphy: You know. 1222 02:01:12.570 --> 02:01:14.940 Vicki Halliday: Here Kim is who do you want me to speak. 1223 02:01:14.970 --> 02:01:15.660 Vicki Halliday: His new. 1224 02:01:16.110 --> 02:01:16.590 Vicki Halliday: track on. 1225 02:01:16.830 --> 02:01:17.880 Vicki Halliday: There yeah. 1226 02:01:17.970 --> 02:01:20.160 frank murphy: Oh yeah yeah oh perfect. 1227 02:01:21.540 --> 02:01:22.140 Brian U.: Jim. 1228 02:01:22.200 --> 02:01:25.080 Brian U.: Can you answer that you would be would be shocking. 1229 02:01:25.980 --> 02:01:30.750 Brian U.: I think it'd be shocking to hear not not only just the homeless committee motions but. 1230 02:01:31.980 --> 02:01:32.070 Brian U.: it's. 1231 02:01:32.160 --> 02:01:34.620 Brian U.: All about anything that's been passed by the dnc. 1232 02:01:35.520 --> 02:01:39.300 Brian U.: Since over the last five years, or three years. 1233 02:01:39.360 --> 02:01:41.460 Vicki Halliday: You must not be at his computer but. 1234 02:01:42.390 --> 02:01:43.320 frank murphy: On another meeting. 1235 02:01:43.680 --> 02:01:45.900 Vicki Halliday: he's something he's been working on. 1236 02:01:46.980 --> 02:01:57.930 frank murphy: yeah and you know those all those motions they if they get a real short answer type thing we posted you know or somehow make fan make people aware that. 1237 02:01:58.350 --> 02:01:59.370 frank murphy: yeah you just. 1238 02:01:59.430 --> 02:02:02.670 Brian U.: Like like listen Okay, we got it thanks for your input. 1239 02:02:02.730 --> 02:02:04.920 Brian U.: that's not an acceptable response. 1240 02:02:04.980 --> 02:02:09.780 Brian U.: Exactly except overall responses, yes we're going to do something about it or no, we won't. 1241 02:02:11.370 --> 02:02:16.350 Brian U.: Now, thanks for your input because that's what this body is selected for isn't it list you're unmuted. 1242 02:02:17.820 --> 02:02:19.140 frank murphy: No he's not anymore. 1243 02:02:20.880 --> 02:02:23.280 Brian U.: Oh she's laughing thinking that they're going to respond sorry. 1244 02:02:23.610 --> 02:02:30.900 Vicki Halliday: Well, I mean if they reach I mean that they just don't respond period is sort of the height of you know. 1245 02:02:31.740 --> 02:02:33.000 Brian U.: Do they even get off. 1246 02:02:34.050 --> 02:02:36.060 Elizabeth Wright: Oh i'm sure they know this, they they do. 1247 02:02:36.270 --> 02:02:36.930 Vicki Halliday: They get them. 1248 02:02:37.260 --> 02:02:43.890 Elizabeth Wright: They do, but if, when you when you take a look at so many of the emotions that have been passed. 1249 02:02:47.760 --> 02:02:54.750 Elizabeth Wright: We did, there was a whole string saying get the homeless off the sidewalks. 1250 02:02:57.000 --> 02:03:00.570 Elizabeth Wright: And it was completely ignored that. 1251 02:03:02.700 --> 02:03:04.050 Elizabeth Wright: The judgment was. 1252 02:03:05.070 --> 02:03:07.470 Elizabeth Wright: You cannot criminalize me and illness. 1253 02:03:09.060 --> 02:03:15.390 Elizabeth Wright: So if you have nowhere for people to go you can't force them off public property. 1254 02:03:17.070 --> 02:03:23.100 Elizabeth Wright: So a lot of the things that the neighborhood Council passed could not be acted on. 1255 02:03:24.660 --> 02:03:32.850 Elizabeth Wright: Along those lines and other things it's just please do this and they're already geared up and getting ready to do it. 1256 02:03:34.350 --> 02:03:46.890 Elizabeth Wright: You know, using bacon motels, for example, you know buying those happen and using those for housing, I mean by my time Dennis got around to suggesting it, it was already in gear. 1257 02:03:49.470 --> 02:03:55.380 Elizabeth Wright: So what are they going to do, thank you Ben is for the idea that we just spent nine months working on. 1258 02:03:57.870 --> 02:04:04.710 Brian U.: Now that that that's fine we've already got that covered that's that's the answer, but like say I remember back when will Hawkins we're here. 1259 02:04:04.890 --> 02:04:11.640 Brian U.: And we pass this motion and went to the board and everybody was excited we handed out flyers on the mobile storage Program. 1260 02:04:12.090 --> 02:04:20.040 Brian U.: Because in Venice there's only one trailer this down next to the paddle tennis court, I think, might be open an hour whenever. 1261 02:04:20.730 --> 02:04:28.320 Brian U.: And there's no other storage, and so we were going to put storage units in all four corners or five corners of Venice. 1262 02:04:28.620 --> 02:04:40.770 Brian U.: That you could put your belongings here, and it could be picked up there, or just having access to storage, and this is back when you weren't allowed to have more than a 60 gallon container. 1263 02:04:42.450 --> 02:04:44.940 Brian U.: And, and that we're going to give everybody. 1264 02:04:46.050 --> 02:04:57.060 Elizabeth Wright: was that it was attempted, and they were going to use the senior Center I believe yeah and and the the public hadn't. 1265 02:04:58.200 --> 02:05:03.510 Elizabeth Wright: Practically right you can't do that you can't have homeless people near me. 1266 02:05:05.610 --> 02:05:11.310 Brian U.: I think they wanted to keep the use as a senior Center there's plenty of other areas to put. 1267 02:05:11.400 --> 02:05:15.600 Elizabeth Wright: That little orange it was never intended to go back to the senior Center. 1268 02:05:18.120 --> 02:05:20.250 Brian U.: It was turned into a recovery Center. 1269 02:05:21.570 --> 02:05:32.310 Brian U.: For Venice recovery Center they do a meetings and all that in that building now and the that's all been shut down since coconut started and now they're going to reopen it for circle. 1270 02:05:35.190 --> 02:05:40.620 Brian U.: But anyway, that's the idea, though, what i'm what i'm asking i'm vicki you know what we're talking about and i'm Jim Ross knows. 1271 02:05:41.100 --> 02:05:48.600 Brian U.: But it'd be interesting to see what happened to Venice, but also the other neighborhood Councils, because if it's with us, it would probably be the same with everybody else. 1272 02:05:49.740 --> 02:06:04.740 Brian U.: The other neighboring Councils of all supported our area in the last 12 months and we're kind of all in this together it's no longer just Venice against palisades Brett word and everybody I think everybody has kind of come together. 1273 02:06:05.670 --> 02:06:06.720 Brian U.: So the interesting to see. 1274 02:06:07.050 --> 02:06:07.410 yeah. 1275 02:06:09.750 --> 02:06:23.970 Vicki Halliday: Which is you know I do lisa's point about now West chester's fighting the La X thing um I talked to people in westchester all the time, and I have not been told that yeah I. 1276 02:06:25.770 --> 02:06:35.070 Vicki Halliday: mean did they not settled on location, it depends on where it is if it's the West 111th street location um. 1277 02:06:37.140 --> 02:06:41.820 Vicki Halliday: I don't think anybody's complaining, because that could be tiny homes immediately. 1278 02:06:42.360 --> 02:06:42.810 yeah. 1279 02:06:44.850 --> 02:06:51.330 frank murphy: yeah, even if it isn't that exact location there, there are other locations, I mean there's. 1280 02:06:52.530 --> 02:07:12.870 frank murphy: there's a I think we identified 488 sites and district to let district 11 and those 488 sites represent some ungodly number 700 something acres of land so there's a lot of space available. 1281 02:07:14.010 --> 02:07:15.840 frank murphy: But getting you know. 1282 02:07:16.980 --> 02:07:28.080 frank murphy: I mean I don't want to say too much on the record, so to speak, but you know you just tear your hair out going why aren't these things being considered why isn't this stuff being. 1283 02:07:29.430 --> 02:07:35.040 frank murphy: You know I mean the lots on the you know i'm i'll go with anything that works. 1284 02:07:37.680 --> 02:07:38.100 frank murphy: You know. 1285 02:07:45.060 --> 02:07:46.110 Elizabeth Wright: effort you put in. 1286 02:07:47.580 --> 02:07:48.210 clark brown: My pleasure. 1287 02:07:49.110 --> 02:07:49.710 Absolutely. 1288 02:07:51.360 --> 02:07:53.370 frank murphy: yeah definitely um. 1289 02:07:54.600 --> 02:08:02.280 frank murphy: But how would we go about doing that you know I guess without I guess we'll talk to Jim and see unless. 1290 02:08:03.570 --> 02:08:12.750 Brian U.: he's got it got it well, no matter what we do, it has to go to gym and and the dnc anyway so let's hear what they're doing yeah and and and go from there. 1291 02:08:13.680 --> 02:08:14.430 Brian U.: Because if they don't. 1292 02:08:14.910 --> 02:08:17.250 Brian U.: respond, we could write a motion ourselves. 1293 02:08:17.280 --> 02:08:19.290 Brian U.: requesting that be done. 1294 02:08:20.280 --> 02:08:30.570 clark brown: Well yeah if if buy it you mean the the memorandum that's covered in the motion that we're asking the dnc to pass because paragraph. 1295 02:08:31.230 --> 02:08:43.230 clark brown: Three is directed to the chairman of the homelessness Committee and the homelessness Committee itself and what the dnc would order if it passes the motion is. 1296 02:08:44.220 --> 02:08:54.540 clark brown: That the the board of the dnc hereby directs the chairman of the committee, which is, which is frank Murphy juvenile justice committee. 1297 02:08:54.900 --> 02:09:06.060 clark brown: to designate such members of the committee and that's the homelessness committee as he deems appropriate that's frank Murphy to follow up with the address sees that's everybody to whom the. 1298 02:09:06.570 --> 02:09:24.270 clark brown: memo was addressed, including the pick up on brian's point the homelessness and poverty committee of the City Council regarding implementation of the recommendations of the memo so the model is that if the board approves the memo. 1299 02:09:25.410 --> 02:09:35.010 clark brown: that the next step would be for frank to appoint members of this committee who follow up with the bond and and the other addresses of the. 1300 02:09:36.840 --> 02:09:38.850 clark brown: memo to see that. 1301 02:09:40.320 --> 02:09:41.670 clark brown: Is provisions are implemented. 1302 02:09:42.750 --> 02:09:59.700 Vicki Halliday: I think it would likely be the chairman of each committee because it's they're not you know the dnc has a number of committees, and I think that if you start farming out this work to committee members, it can get complicated, so I suspect that it will fall back on the committee chairs. 1303 02:10:00.900 --> 02:10:05.370 Brian U.: probably be an office and elected officer of the dnc. 1304 02:10:05.940 --> 02:10:08.010 Brian U.: Because in charge of all motion. 1305 02:10:08.610 --> 02:10:18.720 Brian U.: yeah that just is the liaison person I mean and that liaison person needs to have a relationship with the CD 11 office. 1306 02:10:18.960 --> 02:10:26.820 Brian U.: room that you know whether it's a lobbyist for the dnc to help get these things through or whatever, but. 1307 02:10:26.910 --> 02:10:27.600 clark brown: You know, we. 1308 02:10:27.720 --> 02:10:39.300 Brian U.: We can't have people that fight against Boston asking them to do a favor for a homeless storage deal or so there has to be a relationship with the dnc with on his office. 1309 02:10:39.870 --> 02:10:40.050 What. 1310 02:10:42.930 --> 02:10:45.480 Vicki Halliday: jet to the word favor Brian, this is not. 1311 02:10:45.570 --> 02:10:47.010 Vicki Halliday: favors we're asking. 1312 02:10:47.220 --> 02:10:49.140 Brian U.: I don't think favorite I don't. 1313 02:10:49.320 --> 02:10:53.700 Brian U.: favor it's it's I misspoke the word favor but. 1314 02:10:54.990 --> 02:10:57.060 Brian U.: Getting it getting it done yeah. 1315 02:10:58.830 --> 02:11:04.860 Ansar Muhammad: I think that relationship right now with our President and Mike Bonner. 1316 02:11:07.980 --> 02:11:08.610 Brian U.: kept because. 1317 02:11:09.510 --> 02:11:10.920 frank murphy: Wherever it is that again. 1318 02:11:12.510 --> 02:11:15.570 Ansar Muhammad: good relationship with our President b&c. 1319 02:11:18.360 --> 02:11:18.720 Ansar Muhammad: My. 1320 02:11:19.380 --> 02:11:20.220 frank murphy: big question. 1321 02:11:20.430 --> 02:11:21.390 Vicki Halliday: Jim and. 1322 02:11:22.500 --> 02:11:24.690 Vicki Halliday: I got a question for you. 1323 02:11:25.110 --> 02:11:30.360 Ansar Muhammad: have to do as a committee, to bring back to if there if that relationship has been broken. 1324 02:11:31.830 --> 02:11:46.200 Ansar Muhammad: What can we do to leverage whatever relations, we have a both parties to ask for Tony reconciliation, because I brought this up before if if that relationship is is broken or fractured. 1325 02:11:47.190 --> 02:11:54.600 Ansar Muhammad: A lot of stuff that we talked about it's not going to go nowhere and it's not our fault, I mean me and Mike is decent I was waiting a week ago we. 1326 02:11:55.380 --> 02:12:04.980 Ansar Muhammad: Talk you want to come down with us and has nothing to do with what we're talking about, but I would love to say my house the way she was shooting in the President would be in a seat. 1327 02:12:05.820 --> 02:12:16.530 Ansar Muhammad: And i'm hoping we hear something positive, and I can also say well night, can we come together, I mean, because if we don't figure this out, we we spin our wheels, I mean. 1328 02:12:16.590 --> 02:12:18.330 Brian U.: yeah exactly. 1329 02:12:18.510 --> 02:12:22.170 Ansar Muhammad: yeah relationships is everything you guys it's all yeah. 1330 02:12:22.260 --> 02:12:22.770 frank murphy: Well that's. 1331 02:12:24.210 --> 02:12:34.290 frank murphy: Not to interrupt but that would be what that liaison that you're talking about Brian is all about just that person has the relationship because. 1332 02:12:35.580 --> 02:12:45.510 frank murphy: You know, people are going to get elected for all different kinds of reasons, you know I mean we only represent 14% of his his whole population base and district 11. 1333 02:12:46.410 --> 02:13:04.110 frank murphy: You know, so you know we have different issues than palisades then this or that so they may be at loggerheads, but we need to have somebody that that promotes that liaison that you're talking about or or somebody that can speak for the group. 1334 02:13:05.730 --> 02:13:07.080 frank murphy: Am I making any sense. 1335 02:13:07.620 --> 02:13:09.450 Elizabeth Wright: that's the president of the dnc. 1336 02:13:10.680 --> 02:13:10.980 frank murphy: excuse. 1337 02:13:11.640 --> 02:13:12.810 Elizabeth Wright: That is the President of. 1338 02:13:16.110 --> 02:13:26.220 frank murphy: yeah, but it could be somebody else because the President of the vm see gets voted in based on issues that may not be that may be in conflict with Bob. 1339 02:13:27.420 --> 02:13:27.540 frank murphy: But. 1340 02:13:28.200 --> 02:13:28.680 Ansar Muhammad: they're running. 1341 02:13:28.860 --> 02:13:29.880 Brian U.: Like run it against it. 1342 02:13:35.610 --> 02:13:41.820 Ansar Muhammad: We got to get ahead as far as conversation with with both parties because we're representing a group. 1343 02:13:43.320 --> 02:13:55.620 Ansar Muhammad: He was elected officers to represent our Community, we have a president Okay, who is the lead and Mike binding just delete the CD level. 1344 02:13:56.310 --> 02:14:08.400 Ansar Muhammad: And we're not gangbanging rv this is this is called we call this political game day right when you get you got to individuals that's, that is, the both individuals is very important. 1345 02:14:08.820 --> 02:14:23.400 Ansar Muhammad: To the overall objective of our Community, I am trying to represent an oakland community and I may have some great ideas and I gotta run it by the President, the President that are running by CD 11 REPS but they don't have a good relationship so where's my deals when I go nowhere. 1346 02:14:23.640 --> 02:14:24.150 Nowhere. 1347 02:14:25.890 --> 02:14:37.320 Ansar Muhammad: And I know, and I think I think i've said this before this needs to be resolved, I don't think nobody on this committee unless y'all can tell me different have a problem. 1348 02:14:38.100 --> 02:14:49.800 Ansar Muhammad: With my body, and if you do it needs to be resolved, because he is right now, our representative facility never we talked about motion that I got that have come that that that has to come before this me. 1349 02:14:50.430 --> 02:15:06.870 Ansar Muhammad: And if he has a problem with Mr Mohammed, no matter what frank's in the brain time he's gonna shoot it down because i'm frank's right hand over here so i'm just saying this needs to be handled, I think we should have a very real conversation I don't mind calling Mike myself about this. 1350 02:15:08.280 --> 02:15:21.540 Ansar Muhammad: But this needs to be dealt with, because if we don't deal with it, the Community loses out on great opportunities and great motions that's going to be coming before our President and, ultimately, he got to pick it up up the chain. 1351 02:15:23.130 --> 02:15:32.460 Ansar Muhammad: So this is mental no I mean he I think he knows how i'm thinking about this, he know how I feel about this yeah. 1352 02:15:32.670 --> 02:15:33.360 Brian U.: i've told him to. 1353 02:15:36.000 --> 02:15:38.130 Ansar Muhammad: My final point, who don't get nowhere with it. 1354 02:15:40.980 --> 02:15:42.120 Ansar Muhammad: To be a protester. 1355 02:15:45.300 --> 02:15:47.100 Brian U.: What good is he stand. 1356 02:15:50.430 --> 02:15:52.770 Ansar Muhammad: But I hate to be a protest, the. 1357 02:15:55.980 --> 02:16:02.610 Ansar Muhammad: level of influence in our circles, I can bring 20 people to a board everybody here bring 20 people to the table. 1358 02:16:03.390 --> 02:16:09.870 Ansar Muhammad: We might have to protest, the same and because we're not going to get anywhere and I don't want to even be a part of this stuff in 2022. 1359 02:16:10.230 --> 02:16:21.030 Ansar Muhammad: If we're just spinning our wheels on great ideas and they don't go it's just it's a waste of time yeah you know that's just me that's just me speaking and i've spoken this before. 1360 02:16:22.980 --> 02:16:25.230 Ansar Muhammad: Thank you for allowing me to share my thoughts. 1361 02:16:26.550 --> 02:16:28.950 frank murphy: All the time anytime. 1362 02:16:33.570 --> 02:16:47.160 Brian U.: yeah I listened to the dnc meeting the other night, there was no representative from bonds office on that meeting, there was no representative from sheila kills office in that meeting, no one from the mayor's office on that meeting what is what is that saying. 1363 02:16:53.310 --> 02:16:56.460 Brian U.: I mean they all know they have a monthly meeting once a month. 1364 02:16:57.780 --> 02:16:58.830 Brian U.: and none of them showed up. 1365 02:17:03.900 --> 02:17:04.950 Ansar Muhammad: protest in us. 1366 02:17:05.820 --> 02:17:06.990 frank murphy: There you go yeah. 1367 02:17:07.530 --> 02:17:08.520 There you go. 1368 02:17:13.080 --> 02:17:15.000 frank murphy: there's only there's only like. 1369 02:17:15.630 --> 02:17:16.950 frank murphy: there's only five. 1370 02:17:18.090 --> 02:17:21.540 frank murphy: Well there's five Community plan areas boy about. 1371 02:17:23.520 --> 02:17:26.670 frank murphy: 20 or 30 neighborhood Councils and. 1372 02:17:26.820 --> 02:17:28.170 Brian U.: that's not the CD 11. 1373 02:17:30.300 --> 02:17:33.180 frank murphy: or shouldn't be there's 96 of them in the city. 1374 02:17:34.980 --> 02:17:36.420 frank murphy: So there's there's. 1375 02:17:37.530 --> 02:17:38.400 frank murphy: However, many. 1376 02:17:39.780 --> 02:17:40.950 frank murphy: How many are there vicki. 1377 02:17:41.910 --> 02:17:42.600 Brian U.: On racks. 1378 02:17:43.440 --> 02:17:44.190 Vicki Halliday: And racks Rack. 1379 02:17:45.180 --> 02:17:46.230 Brian U.: Sick that would rip. 1380 02:17:46.650 --> 02:17:47.760 Brian U.: So there's six. 1381 02:17:48.000 --> 02:17:49.890 Brian U.: or six neighbor Councils and CD 11. 1382 02:17:50.490 --> 02:17:52.440 So I have a question. 1383 02:17:54.600 --> 02:17:55.860 Ansar Muhammad: Can we asked him. 1384 02:17:56.160 --> 02:18:00.630 Vicki Halliday: Well i've tried to get him to unmute stand because he should be part of this conversation. 1385 02:18:01.020 --> 02:18:07.140 Ansar Muhammad: let's actually see if he can reach out to Mike and have a coffee meeting with my just him in my one on one. 1386 02:18:08.460 --> 02:18:09.300 Brian U.: yeah. 1387 02:18:09.840 --> 02:18:11.400 Vicki Halliday: Jim me please. 1388 02:18:12.480 --> 02:18:13.530 Ansar Muhammad: let's see what he's. 1389 02:18:14.010 --> 02:18:15.270 Brian U.: Can you set up a tax. 1390 02:18:17.460 --> 02:18:19.170 Brian U.: yeah I just got a computer on. 1391 02:18:37.440 --> 02:18:38.340 Brian U.: Staff staff dance dance. 1392 02:18:39.570 --> 02:18:41.820 Ansar Muhammad: The game, but man it's a day right. 1393 02:18:42.600 --> 02:18:47.730 Brian U.: yeah yeah we're sitting there worried about what's going on they've been doing it, the US for for years. 1394 02:18:51.360 --> 02:18:51.990 Brian U.: it's true. 1395 02:18:52.740 --> 02:18:53.460 Ansar Muhammad: it's true. 1396 02:18:54.210 --> 02:18:59.010 Brian U.: As soon as we get the answers to how many emotions have come back you'll know how it's been. 1397 02:18:59.250 --> 02:19:00.330 Ansar Muhammad: With is no no. 1398 02:19:01.710 --> 02:19:05.550 Brian U.: There you go and we've never and we've never brought it up. 1399 02:19:11.490 --> 02:19:15.360 Vicki Halliday: funding to the text, so I don't know whether he's. 1400 02:19:16.560 --> 02:19:20.940 Brian U.: what's a big enough discussion, we can bring it into old business from next next month. 1401 02:19:21.000 --> 02:19:21.840 frank murphy: course yeah. 1402 02:19:21.870 --> 02:19:25.020 Brian U.: Definitely, and then we'll probably have a report from him anyway. 1403 02:19:26.070 --> 02:19:28.350 Ansar Muhammad: I think this is telling us until we get it resolved. 1404 02:19:29.700 --> 02:19:33.330 Brian U.: Well, can you and vicki bring it up at the neighborhood Ken Clark. 1405 02:19:33.780 --> 02:19:36.930 Brian U.: Absolutely at the at the dnc next week. 1406 02:19:39.870 --> 02:19:51.210 Vicki Halliday: It has been brought up about the government REPS and I think that they're in all honesty, what happened was the system from the old Council. 1407 02:19:51.570 --> 02:20:01.680 Vicki Halliday: didn't transfer over it was not just a standing thing somebody contacted them every month and stuff that did fall through the cracks because it's been discussed. 1408 02:20:02.490 --> 02:20:03.120 Brian U.: And will there. 1409 02:20:03.240 --> 02:20:05.730 Vicki Halliday: are trying to get them all back because Janet Turner and. 1410 02:20:07.260 --> 02:20:12.750 Vicki Halliday: People like that, who were terrific every month, you know, we would like to have back again. 1411 02:20:14.220 --> 02:20:17.100 Brian U.: Can I ask a quick question the lapd. 1412 02:20:18.600 --> 02:20:30.150 Brian U.: We have a great Captain captain and Brett who's very forthright and given us all the statistics that are really important to the Venice community to understand where crime is in good times and in bad. 1413 02:20:30.660 --> 02:20:40.200 Brian U.: And they're the first ones to tell you how bad it was and they're also right now telling you how good it is since the boardwalk got cleaned up, do you think that. 1414 02:20:42.240 --> 02:20:57.510 Brian U.: I really believe that more time should be given to them for comments in your your V MC big meeting, or should we have them come to our meeting as the Venice homeless committee. 1415 02:20:57.840 --> 02:21:00.120 Brian U.: Why, it was public it was public safety. 1416 02:21:00.120 --> 02:21:07.290 Vicki Halliday: Before one of the reasons we wanted to get back in front of the board meeting is that more it would reach more people. 1417 02:21:08.190 --> 02:21:17.910 Vicki Halliday: And because we've been going through the throes of Jim trying to make the meetings more concise and less drawn out. 1418 02:21:18.570 --> 02:21:35.910 Vicki Halliday: um they were pushed the first couple of times and I think that that's gonna that's been resolved for the next one, because we realized the importance of what they have to say I don't know that we need to go into an hour and a half of public comment with questions to them. 1419 02:21:37.230 --> 02:21:38.010 Vicki Halliday: Because that. 1420 02:21:38.100 --> 02:21:39.210 Vicki Halliday: did happen. 1421 02:21:39.660 --> 02:21:46.080 Vicki Halliday: i'm more in committee, then it happens, or can happen at the dnc given our agendas. 1422 02:21:46.680 --> 02:21:49.980 Brian U.: Do you have to do, public comment on just reports. 1423 02:21:50.100 --> 02:21:50.580 Brian U.: I mean. 1424 02:21:50.700 --> 02:21:51.030 Brian U.: No. 1425 02:21:51.480 --> 02:21:52.590 Brian U.: No just in motion. 1426 02:21:53.430 --> 02:21:54.720 Vicki Halliday: But you're saying. 1427 02:21:56.460 --> 02:22:04.290 Vicki Halliday: Legally, according to done, yes, you have to have comments before every motion public comments. 1428 02:22:04.740 --> 02:22:07.830 Brian U.: But it's not emotion when they give a report whenever it gets up and gives. 1429 02:22:07.830 --> 02:22:08.250 Vicki Halliday: us now. 1430 02:22:08.280 --> 02:22:14.670 Vicki Halliday: Report, but you just said in what your run up to this is that you wanted people to be able to ask questions and. 1431 02:22:14.820 --> 02:22:20.640 Brian U.: And what the committee, the Committee tap your your board I want your board to be able to ask question. 1432 02:22:20.640 --> 02:22:26.190 Vicki Halliday: Oh, I bet that i've already asked for that, because I wanted that too, because people. 1433 02:22:26.190 --> 02:22:28.680 Vicki Halliday: can contact us and we can ask those. 1434 02:22:28.680 --> 02:22:29.520 Brian U.: Quite exactly. 1435 02:22:30.000 --> 02:22:31.110 Vicki Halliday: And i've already asked. 1436 02:22:32.430 --> 02:22:33.630 Vicki Halliday: So we'll see where that goes. 1437 02:22:34.560 --> 02:22:40.110 Brian U.: Okay, because that that's the critical eye, we trust the board to ask the questions it doesn't have to be public comment. 1438 02:22:40.260 --> 02:22:40.620 Vicki Halliday: Right. 1439 02:22:41.160 --> 02:22:45.480 Brian U.: But there has to be enough time to ask those if the police officers are there, waiting and will. 1440 02:22:45.690 --> 02:22:46.770 Brian U.: participate in that. 1441 02:22:47.100 --> 02:22:51.060 Vicki Halliday: I couldn't agree and same thing with LSD. 1442 02:22:51.990 --> 02:22:59.580 Vicki Halliday: yeah you know because they're terrific about coming and giving us great information yeah and. 1443 02:23:00.210 --> 02:23:01.260 Brian U.: you're spot on. 1444 02:23:03.360 --> 02:23:10.710 Elizabeth Wright: I think there are a number of questions that would be kind of standard and those can be submitted for. 1445 02:23:11.760 --> 02:23:15.120 Elizabeth Wright: Advanced consideration that they would be included in the report. 1446 02:23:16.500 --> 02:23:19.410 Vicki Halliday: We could certainly do that Lynn i'm. 1447 02:23:20.100 --> 02:23:23.310 Elizabeth Wright: Not not everyone, but I think there is a category. 1448 02:23:23.880 --> 02:23:37.110 Vicki Halliday: You know, and I think I think in one way we're lucky, because the monthly board meeting is the night before the monthly see pad meeting because so they gather those statistics anyway. 1449 02:23:38.040 --> 02:23:38.730 Brian U.: they're fresh. 1450 02:23:38.760 --> 02:23:40.680 Vicki Halliday: You know so they're very fresh. 1451 02:23:42.150 --> 02:23:54.990 Vicki Halliday: For that couple of days um so no, I think I think there's certainly open to anything else, we would like to hear and they'll certainly address questions if we if we send them in advance. 1452 02:23:56.010 --> 02:23:58.800 Vicki Halliday: yeah and i'm happy to do that yeah. 1453 02:24:01.740 --> 02:24:02.340 frank murphy: All right. 1454 02:24:03.120 --> 02:24:05.460 Vicki Halliday: Okay, well, I guess that Mr ramirez is. 1455 02:24:07.110 --> 02:24:08.550 Vicki Halliday: This is gone off. 1456 02:24:10.500 --> 02:24:13.350 frank murphy: But he said he was gonna be on another meeting also so. 1457 02:24:13.350 --> 02:24:14.160 Vicki Halliday: Looking back. 1458 02:24:15.240 --> 02:24:16.410 Vicki Halliday: I thought he was sort of. 1459 02:24:16.980 --> 02:24:22.890 frank murphy: thought he was hovering around two, but he didn't respond to mine either, so you know we'll see what happens. 1460 02:24:24.510 --> 02:24:25.230 frank murphy: Stan. 1461 02:24:25.770 --> 02:24:26.730 Brian U.: is laughing. 1462 02:24:28.170 --> 02:24:28.710 frank murphy: Car. 1463 02:24:28.770 --> 02:24:29.340 Brian U.: he's rated. 1464 02:24:29.880 --> 02:24:32.130 Brian U.: vicki gems right in this campaign speech. 1465 02:24:32.670 --> 02:24:33.000 yeah. 1466 02:24:34.020 --> 02:24:34.470 frank murphy: Yes. 1467 02:24:36.330 --> 02:24:40.230 Ansar Muhammad: This was a great meeting know, we need to do more, this with the with the and how. 1468 02:24:40.710 --> 02:24:43.620 frank murphy: I think yeah yeah that was that was some. 1469 02:24:44.850 --> 02:24:48.090 frank murphy: Poor lot more successful than I anticipated after. 1470 02:24:49.830 --> 02:24:52.380 frank murphy: Anyhow, good good guys. 1471 02:24:54.030 --> 02:24:55.410 frank murphy: And we have to evolve. 1472 02:24:56.100 --> 02:24:57.840 frank murphy: Or do we just get to say bye. 1473 02:24:58.290 --> 02:24:58.860 Elizabeth Wright: say bye. 1474 02:24:59.730 --> 02:25:00.540 frank murphy: Take care guys. 1475 02:25:00.780 --> 02:25:01.110 Okay. 1476 02:25:03.090 --> 02:25:03.480 frank murphy: yeah happy. 1477 02:25:06.630 --> 02:25:07.320 Brian U.: Thanks vicki. 1478 02:25:07.680 --> 02:25:08.520 Vicki Halliday: Thank you. 1479 02:25:08.970 --> 02:25:10.470 frank murphy: thanks for a key. 1480 02:25:11.400 --> 02:25:12.330 No problem. 1481 02:25:13.830 --> 02:25:18.300 Vicki Halliday: that's Okay, I guess we'll just leave Jim here, and he can figure it out.