WEBVTT 1 00:00:32.160 --> 00:00:36.180 james murez: gee I wonder if James is insane as. 2 00:00:37.410 --> 00:00:38.520 james murez: Jim Rome. 3 00:01:00.840 --> 00:01:04.110 james murez: person that identifies himself by the name of James who is that. 4 00:01:04.470 --> 00:01:05.670 james: That is James rob. 5 00:01:06.150 --> 00:01:11.970 james murez: Okay might want to put your last name in there on your profile, so people know who you are. 6 00:01:12.960 --> 00:01:15.870 james murez: And it's coming up just as jane's. 7 00:01:33.060 --> 00:01:34.290 james murez: You never do that Jim. 8 00:01:35.670 --> 00:01:44.970 james robb: yeah I can do it i'll do it the later like it yeah it's just when you check in it just says that, so I mean but i'm in already I would have to disconnect. 9 00:01:45.240 --> 00:01:46.500 james murez: No, I don't think you do. 10 00:01:47.850 --> 00:01:51.210 james murez: I think you can do it from I mean, I know I can do it for you from here. 11 00:02:06.450 --> 00:02:07.440 james robb: I got it. 12 00:02:13.320 --> 00:02:13.860 Brian Averill: I guess. 13 00:02:15.240 --> 00:02:20.640 james murez: yeah I think is a meeting as the Chair there you go now, it says it ought to be the same as it is on the agenda. 14 00:02:24.150 --> 00:02:26.340 Brian Averill: Jim can you book me to a Co chair. 15 00:02:27.780 --> 00:02:28.620 Brian Averill: or whatever it's called. 16 00:02:30.240 --> 00:02:34.440 james murez: yeah I think I already did that for Jim I think he can do it, too, but i'll do that. 17 00:02:36.210 --> 00:02:37.350 Brian Averill: Either of you jim's. 18 00:03:17.820 --> 00:03:19.530 james robb: we're waiting for you are starting early. 19 00:03:20.760 --> 00:03:22.110 james murez: Now you can't start early. 20 00:03:23.460 --> 00:03:24.750 james robb: i'm pulling people in early. 21 00:03:25.410 --> 00:03:25.770 Brian Averill: We can't. 22 00:03:31.590 --> 00:03:33.450 james murez: You can't start earlier than the. 23 00:03:34.440 --> 00:03:36.240 james murez: Sudden the agenda specified. 24 00:03:40.320 --> 00:03:44.340 Brian Averill: Jim can we do this sort of thing at like 655 or does it have to be on the quarter hour. 25 00:03:45.720 --> 00:03:51.930 james murez: No, I actually had to go in and tell it to start at this point, this is what the what you guys said you wanted. 26 00:03:53.100 --> 00:03:56.820 james murez: To be this is all going to be dead video that's going to have to be edited away. 27 00:03:58.170 --> 00:03:58.530 Brian Averill: gotcha. 28 00:03:58.620 --> 00:04:00.030 james murez: A lot of extra work actually. 29 00:04:00.600 --> 00:04:07.530 Brian Averill: that's that's why i'm suggesting 655 because we don't need a full 15 minutes I think five with prep is fun. 30 00:04:09.120 --> 00:04:16.560 james murez: So when when next month, when you send over your request for the zoom link just explain that and that'll be what it is. 31 00:04:17.160 --> 00:04:20.880 Brian Averill: OK cool, my question is, though, it doesn't have to be on the quarter hour or anything like that. 32 00:04:20.910 --> 00:04:22.350 james murez: No, no, it can be on the minute. 33 00:04:22.740 --> 00:04:23.910 Brian Averill: Okay cool perfect. 34 00:04:25.410 --> 00:04:27.480 Brian Averill: yeah 15 minutes is a little excessive but. 35 00:04:28.590 --> 00:04:29.430 Brian Averill: We want to be prepared. 36 00:04:30.240 --> 00:04:38.670 james murez: And i'm very curious now that I have you on on on the telephone, I guess, to understand what the issue is with the. 37 00:04:40.620 --> 00:04:42.930 james murez: uploading of the the the. 38 00:04:44.190 --> 00:04:48.570 james murez: agenda because I sent a copy of it off to. 39 00:04:50.190 --> 00:04:59.400 james murez: My son, who has an apple computer and it came out exactly the same on his as it does on my PC I don't think it has anything to do with uploading it. 40 00:05:00.510 --> 00:05:09.540 james murez: To web corner because it's a PDF document, so I guess, my question is did you guys start off with that template that I sent Jim because. 41 00:05:09.720 --> 00:05:14.520 james murez: The logos were embedded inside of a table. 42 00:05:15.930 --> 00:05:16.320 james murez: Yes. 43 00:05:16.590 --> 00:05:17.820 james murez: So do you do. 44 00:05:18.690 --> 00:05:35.970 james robb: To to add stuff to the agenda, it has to be a word format and then, when you my computer I can have a word format and then I could go down to save as, and I can save it as a PDF, but when I save it as a PDF then it throws it back that way. 45 00:05:36.480 --> 00:05:43.710 james murez: Oh so So the issue is is the SAVE, as I think, are you using a PC or. 46 00:05:45.000 --> 00:05:48.150 james robb: apple I am using a PC and. 47 00:05:48.960 --> 00:06:00.780 james murez: If it's a if it's a machine newer than about windows 95, which is quite old instead of doing a save as you try to do what's called. 48 00:06:01.920 --> 00:06:04.770 james murez: print to Microsoft PDF converter. 49 00:06:06.030 --> 00:06:20.820 james murez: So you go to print and you'll see that one of the printers that you have besides a physical hard paper copy printer does something called Microsoft PDF printer and and if you click on that it'll publish it exactly the way. 50 00:06:22.260 --> 00:06:24.630 james murez: You see it in your word Doc. 51 00:06:25.320 --> 00:06:38.370 james robb: Okay, so that's what the issue has been the last three times i've did it then because I save it as a PDF from a word, because we add all the information basically all download it to the cloud or whatever it is. 52 00:06:39.990 --> 00:06:47.760 james robb: And then I will download that so that it's a word, and then I save that word to PDF and that's how it screws it up. 53 00:06:48.210 --> 00:06:56.700 james murez: yeah yeah that's probably it if you have a problem with that, let me know, and I can walk you through it, but I I i'm pretty sure that that's what it is there's the SAVE as. 54 00:06:57.870 --> 00:07:10.650 james murez: It is is probably the problem there's a whole bunch of features that have to be set correctly in Microsoft word to be able to do a save as PDF, but if you do it as a print it just prints it exactly the way it's supposed to be. 55 00:07:10.680 --> 00:07:18.900 james robb: Yes, and my computers than having problems, so I had to re download where it in all I had to basically reset my computer to news. 56 00:07:18.960 --> 00:07:19.890 james robb: yeah yeah. 57 00:07:20.520 --> 00:07:26.700 james murez: You could look right now and see because you still got 10 more minutes before the meeting starts, you could look and see if if the. 58 00:07:27.990 --> 00:07:31.920 james murez: If, when you you click on if you opened up the document. 59 00:07:33.210 --> 00:07:34.500 james murez: And and. 60 00:07:36.720 --> 00:07:41.160 james murez: click on print if one of the print drivers that you have there is. 61 00:07:41.520 --> 00:07:43.530 james robb: The mindset, it says that i've seen. 62 00:07:43.560 --> 00:07:49.920 james robb: i've seen it before because i've been trying to print stuff and it drops me off to that, so I had about 10 things in the queue. 63 00:07:51.390 --> 00:07:52.860 james robb: So yeah i've seen it before. 64 00:07:52.950 --> 00:07:53.760 james murez: All right, yeah. 65 00:07:54.000 --> 00:07:54.690 Brian Averill: we'll figure it up. 66 00:07:55.350 --> 00:07:57.120 james murez: yeah that should that should work the. 67 00:07:57.600 --> 00:08:04.050 Brian Averill: gym Another question is anyone else, having a problem with the link to the previous agenda because that was definitely working. 68 00:08:07.500 --> 00:08:09.930 Brian Averill: The hyperlink to the left last month's agenda. 69 00:08:11.940 --> 00:08:14.730 james murez: To last month to Jenny other that that's a dead link. 70 00:08:15.570 --> 00:08:15.900 Brian Averill: yeah. 71 00:08:16.020 --> 00:08:17.820 james murez: Well, so and it doesn't have. 72 00:08:18.000 --> 00:08:25.410 james murez: I mean you know from the city standpoint it's supposed to spell out the URL you having a hyperlink that you can just click on. 73 00:08:25.860 --> 00:08:44.100 james murez: is not acceptable, and the reason it's not acceptable is because you don't the one that's online today you can't click on it so it's not considered a document that anybody knows what it is and to be most correct, it should also reference, the date of the prior meeting that you're referencing. 74 00:08:45.210 --> 00:08:53.820 james murez: Just so everybody's real clear about it, but you know that that's not as big of a deal, but having the URL the fully qualified URL, meaning that it starts off with http. 75 00:08:54.180 --> 00:09:00.870 james murez: And if you can click on it that's great, but even if you can't click on it at least a person can retype it or highlight copy and paste it. 76 00:09:02.010 --> 00:09:10.890 james murez: And that's how they would like us to do it metric that's how pretty much everybody does it, these days, the coastal Commission everybody pretty much does it the same way, for that reason. 77 00:09:12.240 --> 00:09:12.840 Brian Averill: copy that. 78 00:09:18.570 --> 00:09:20.850 Brian Averill: Know how'd you get that cool background I want that. 79 00:09:23.790 --> 00:09:24.330 Brian Averill: you're muted. 80 00:09:26.850 --> 00:09:28.410 james robb: My background is my living room. 81 00:09:29.280 --> 00:09:30.150 Brian Averill: I know i've got this. 82 00:09:30.690 --> 00:09:32.370 Brian Averill: cool out of focus thing going on. 83 00:09:33.540 --> 00:09:39.990 james murez: She can't zoom feature, you can go in oil you're muted, but that's a zoom feature that you can blow your background. 84 00:09:42.090 --> 00:09:43.260 james murez: yeah you can do it to. 85 00:09:46.200 --> 00:09:47.460 Brian Averill: clean up my place as much. 86 00:09:47.490 --> 00:09:49.800 james robb: Virtual background well that's weird. 87 00:09:50.040 --> 00:09:55.350 james murez: So I see there's somebody named mark in your audience and also somebody named Eric are they on your committee. 88 00:09:56.370 --> 00:09:57.780 james robb: Mark Rocco is. 89 00:09:59.400 --> 00:10:07.560 james murez: Do you want to promote and make sure you can do it and or I can do it for you, but it's probably just reconfirm there you blurred your background Jim. 90 00:10:09.630 --> 00:10:10.410 james murez: You got to go on. 91 00:10:15.960 --> 00:10:18.240 james robb: Alright, well, I hit attendees. 92 00:10:18.660 --> 00:10:23.370 james robb: I click on mark Rocco and it says rename or removed so it's not allowed. 93 00:10:23.910 --> 00:10:25.080 james murez: Here, would be on more. 94 00:10:25.680 --> 00:10:27.930 Brian Averill: on promoting them, promote the panelists there you go. 95 00:10:28.080 --> 00:10:28.350 Peter Ruiz: yeah. 96 00:10:28.410 --> 00:10:30.810 james robb: I think what i'm there, it is now okay. 97 00:10:30.960 --> 00:10:32.910 Brian Averill: Okay that's under more Jim. 98 00:10:35.220 --> 00:10:35.550 james robb: This. 99 00:10:35.760 --> 00:10:38.790 james murez: Just popped up so that hat Peters God. 100 00:10:39.480 --> 00:10:42.120 Peter Ruiz: Like that custom made I have that done at the. 101 00:10:43.260 --> 00:10:51.540 Peter Ruiz: Venice swap meet over there and I made that for when I was doing some duty around the Pier on ocean front walk made me look more official. 102 00:10:51.840 --> 00:10:52.290 Brian Averill: that's great. 103 00:10:53.160 --> 00:10:53.880 james murez: Very cool. 104 00:10:54.180 --> 00:10:57.300 Peter Ruiz: And then I put a meeting. 105 00:10:59.130 --> 00:10:59.700 Noel Johnston: Back on. 106 00:11:00.420 --> 00:11:00.900 Peter Ruiz: Oh, really. 107 00:11:01.500 --> 00:11:03.240 Noel Johnston: What that had bank yeah there you go. 108 00:11:03.660 --> 00:11:04.830 james robb: also got some. 109 00:11:06.240 --> 00:11:09.240 Peter Ruiz: I like having fun doing garb will have to make some for all. 110 00:11:09.270 --> 00:11:13.440 james robb: Yes, he has safety vest to that have oceanfront walk on them right Peter. 111 00:11:13.620 --> 00:11:14.250 Peter Ruiz: Yes, I do. 112 00:11:14.940 --> 00:11:15.870 Brian Averill: So when I take. 113 00:11:16.200 --> 00:11:20.070 james robb: The meeting we're going to take a walk one of these days for one of our meetings and. 114 00:11:20.370 --> 00:11:29.040 Peter Ruiz: walk with our best you know, I have to come in, being a person of disabilities you're only as important as you think you are. 115 00:11:31.710 --> 00:11:33.690 Noel Johnston: A person with disabilities. 116 00:11:33.840 --> 00:11:41.280 Peter Ruiz: Yes, so by the best in the garb It makes me feel important and then you know people take you a little more seriously. 117 00:11:41.310 --> 00:11:41.640 Peter Ruiz: But. 118 00:11:41.730 --> 00:11:46.320 james robb: Really so Brian we're waiting for Robin are we going to have quorum with the. 119 00:11:47.100 --> 00:11:49.110 Brian Averill: Lead we need six so. 120 00:11:51.300 --> 00:11:51.570 james murez: yeah. 121 00:11:52.320 --> 00:11:53.640 james robb: there's a link robbins going to get. 122 00:11:54.390 --> 00:11:56.280 james murez: Is Elisa and Eric is still out there. 123 00:11:56.520 --> 00:12:00.930 james robb: that's Lisa redman and Erica they're just they're just attendees okay. 124 00:12:02.130 --> 00:12:06.330 james robb: Robin should be getting on momentarily and then Andrew was supposed to get on. 125 00:12:08.220 --> 00:12:09.870 james robb: That we'll see if he gets on. 126 00:12:11.040 --> 00:12:13.200 Brian Averill: Some of these guys might not hop on till seven. 127 00:12:14.970 --> 00:12:18.150 james robb: that's what Robin said cuz she's finishing her dinner so. 128 00:12:19.470 --> 00:12:19.980 Brian Averill: What appetit. 129 00:12:22.500 --> 00:12:23.460 james robb: hi mark Rocco. 130 00:12:25.500 --> 00:12:26.070 Mark Rago: guys. 131 00:12:26.700 --> 00:12:30.000 james robb: ready to learn, you know how to blow years to uh. 132 00:12:31.170 --> 00:12:36.840 Mark Rago: yeah i've done it before I didn't want people work to see my ugly bedroom. 133 00:12:51.930 --> 00:13:00.090 james robb: Jason jason's not gonna make it because he's in Mexico, he just landed in Mexico City, so he said it's like 10 o'clock there. 134 00:13:00.960 --> 00:13:01.410 gotcha. 135 00:13:08.490 --> 00:13:11.880 james robb: You able to pull up the agenda when we need it right. 136 00:13:12.840 --> 00:13:13.920 Brian Averill: yeah okay. 137 00:13:22.500 --> 00:13:25.350 james robb: looks blurry even my face looks blurry. 138 00:13:30.090 --> 00:13:30.420 Brian Averill: blurry. 139 00:13:31.260 --> 00:13:31.980 james robb: I guess it is. 140 00:13:36.750 --> 00:13:37.440 Mark Rago: Wrong drunk. 141 00:13:39.540 --> 00:13:39.870 james robb: Oh. 142 00:13:41.100 --> 00:13:44.340 james robb: Mel was supposed to know is supposed to be on here too, so. 143 00:13:48.540 --> 00:13:50.130 Noel Johnston: It isn't seven yet so. 144 00:13:54.810 --> 00:13:57.810 Brian Averill: i'm just going to try to share my screen as a experiment. 145 00:13:59.460 --> 00:14:00.930 Brian Averill: Well, no one can watch a screw up. 146 00:14:11.340 --> 00:14:12.060 Brian Averill: Sure, Jim. 147 00:14:12.300 --> 00:14:15.420 james robb: Nick supposed to be on here to next not on yet so yeah. 148 00:14:15.750 --> 00:14:22.620 james murez: We should have we should be the Brian if you go down to the middle of the screen in the bottom, there should be a green share screen. 149 00:14:22.950 --> 00:14:31.410 Brian Averill: yeah I clicked it and then it just says, it gives me two questions, who can share with a choice and who can start sharing when someone else's sharing for the choice. 150 00:14:31.500 --> 00:14:39.270 james murez: Right, so that you clicked on the on the up arrow to the right of the green box right you want to click on the actual Green Box. 151 00:14:39.630 --> 00:14:40.290 Brian Averill: A copy of that. 152 00:14:43.980 --> 00:14:47.040 james murez: And then pick your second screen and click the blue button that says share. 153 00:14:53.370 --> 00:14:56.070 Brian Averill: that's given me some privacy mumbo jumbo. 154 00:14:57.780 --> 00:14:59.460 james murez: Sorry i'm not sure I understand. 155 00:15:00.510 --> 00:15:06.810 Brian Averill: I have to go into my apple settings and turn off turn on some privacy settings or turn off some privacy settings. 156 00:15:09.300 --> 00:15:10.260 Brian Averill: Jim can you share. 157 00:15:11.280 --> 00:15:12.630 james robb: All right, hold on, let me. 158 00:15:14.220 --> 00:15:16.620 james murez: Is what do you want to share the agenda, I can put up. 159 00:15:17.280 --> 00:15:18.450 Brian Averill: Oh that'd be awesome. 160 00:15:18.720 --> 00:15:22.290 james murez: But i'm not necessarily going to you, should you should work on it, I mean I can do it right now. 161 00:15:22.530 --> 00:15:25.230 james robb: So how do we so read me through this again. 162 00:15:26.220 --> 00:15:27.930 james murez: down at the bottom there's a green button. 163 00:15:28.560 --> 00:15:28.950 james robb: Yes. 164 00:15:29.430 --> 00:15:34.890 james murez: And that green button says share if you have to have the agenda already opened in your browser. 165 00:15:35.550 --> 00:15:45.600 james murez: Before you got here, so you when you click on that you should see a second window here it'll bring up a screen that shows all of the existing windows, you have. 166 00:15:47.340 --> 00:15:48.540 james murez: There you go you got it. 167 00:15:50.910 --> 00:15:56.850 james murez: You have preview showing over on the left, if you want to turn the preview part off, you can probably do that too. 168 00:15:58.860 --> 00:16:01.950 james murez: Great and it actually you probably want to. 169 00:16:03.000 --> 00:16:08.430 james murez: enlarge the font size, so you know by by putting the magnifier plus. 170 00:16:10.230 --> 00:16:15.510 james murez: Jim up at the top of the upper what would be upper left on your screen there's a plus sign. 171 00:16:17.130 --> 00:16:18.300 Brian Averill: i'm going to promote Robin. 172 00:16:19.470 --> 00:16:20.580 james murez: Do you see that Jim. 173 00:16:21.330 --> 00:16:22.380 james robb: yeah i've got. 174 00:16:22.590 --> 00:16:26.670 james murez: The scholars are left there over on the left at the plus sign. 175 00:16:29.640 --> 00:16:30.570 Brian Averill: Andrew. 176 00:16:30.840 --> 00:16:32.430 james murez: who's sharing now. 177 00:16:32.460 --> 00:16:34.920 james robb: that's not that's no well then we'll hang on. 178 00:16:36.060 --> 00:16:43.470 james murez: Okay, whoever sharing the screen, they want to press the plus sign, so you get the font a little bit bigger. 179 00:16:46.620 --> 00:16:47.850 james murez: ya know well you're sharing. 180 00:16:51.300 --> 00:16:52.950 james murez: Now, because. 181 00:16:54.000 --> 00:16:55.590 Noel Johnston: I wasn't there. 182 00:16:56.070 --> 00:16:58.320 james robb: Okay Well, this is a different one i'm. 183 00:16:58.350 --> 00:17:00.510 james robb: working on it right now so everybody. 184 00:17:01.410 --> 00:17:01.920 Please. 185 00:17:04.980 --> 00:17:09.720 Brian Averill: Oh, you can stop sharing or somebody sharing their email here there you go. 186 00:17:10.170 --> 00:17:11.100 james murez: yeah anybody can. 187 00:17:11.670 --> 00:17:12.000 Time. 188 00:17:14.310 --> 00:17:14.880 Brian Averill: what's up. 189 00:17:15.450 --> 00:17:17.370 Andrew Mika: says here on time don't be for me. 190 00:17:18.420 --> 00:17:19.860 Brian Averill: you're perfect very punctual. 191 00:17:19.920 --> 00:17:21.060 Andrew Mika: rereading email. 192 00:17:29.520 --> 00:17:32.880 james murez: Well, if you're going to do the sharing you want to maximize that screen. 193 00:17:33.600 --> 00:17:41.880 Noel Johnston: Well, wait a second I I didn't really want to do it, I was just doing it because it wasn't there is somebody else's. 194 00:17:41.970 --> 00:17:44.130 Noel Johnston: wants to pick it up right by me. 195 00:17:44.460 --> 00:17:49.140 james robb: Alright, so let's just figure it out hold on a second i'm downloading this. 196 00:17:54.120 --> 00:17:54.420 Brian Averill: I mean. 197 00:17:54.660 --> 00:17:56.730 james robb: downloaded my agenda so. 198 00:17:56.820 --> 00:17:58.530 james robb: Now, it will come up you said. 199 00:17:58.830 --> 00:18:02.790 james murez: Now you now you got to open it up, so you can see it on your local machine Jim. 200 00:18:03.420 --> 00:18:04.110 Peter Ruiz: can see it. 201 00:18:04.620 --> 00:18:11.580 james murez: hey once you can see, it then go back to your zoom call and down at the bottom of the window on the zoom call. 202 00:18:13.920 --> 00:18:24.510 james murez: You click on the green icon there that says share once that once you click on there you go and now you want to click on your plus sign, so it makes the font and big enough that people can see it. 203 00:18:26.700 --> 00:18:29.970 james murez: A little bit more to the left move your cursor a little farther to the left. 204 00:18:31.860 --> 00:18:35.070 james murez: that's to the right here, you go other left other left. 205 00:18:36.720 --> 00:18:37.830 james murez: going to the left show. 206 00:18:39.060 --> 00:18:41.910 james murez: me a little bit of our little keep going a little farther a little farther. 207 00:18:42.930 --> 00:18:49.830 james murez: right there that plus click a few times on that keep going one more time there you go perfect now scroll down. 208 00:18:51.510 --> 00:18:52.200 james murez: you're good to go. 209 00:18:53.430 --> 00:18:53.790 All right. 210 00:18:55.320 --> 00:18:57.330 james robb: Let me put this back where yes. 211 00:18:57.390 --> 00:18:58.290 james robb: Please can. 212 00:19:05.670 --> 00:19:17.130 james murez: I see there's a Steve well Elisa redmond Erica more in a car, I can't even start to pronounce the last name of all his attendees if any of them are panelists I don't know you have a quorum, yet I see. 213 00:19:18.450 --> 00:19:19.740 james murez: Jim rob has his hand up. 214 00:19:24.780 --> 00:19:30.210 james murez: All right, i'm going to bow out if you guys need me i'll be here in the background, just shout out or call me or text me or something. 215 00:19:30.990 --> 00:19:32.430 Brian Averill: Extra yep. 216 00:19:35.040 --> 00:19:42.570 Brian Averill: neck Jim i'm gonna promote neck, and maybe we get started i'm just trying to make this screen bigger. 217 00:19:49.710 --> 00:19:50.940 Brian Averill: Next, Nick I just promoted do. 218 00:20:03.630 --> 00:20:05.430 james robb: You see, the agenda now. 219 00:20:06.450 --> 00:20:07.170 Peter Ruiz: Yes. 220 00:20:07.500 --> 00:20:10.080 Noel Johnston: Okay, I can see the agenda, nothing else. 221 00:20:10.530 --> 00:20:13.290 Andrew Mika: Great that's that's all we need is the agenda on the screen and we. 222 00:20:13.290 --> 00:20:13.620 Noel Johnston: can try. 223 00:20:15.150 --> 00:20:16.740 Andrew Mika: But let's we're good. 224 00:20:17.490 --> 00:20:24.930 james robb: let's go all right i'd like to call the ocean for a walk meeting for the November 29. 225 00:20:27.690 --> 00:20:30.300 james robb: I would like to call the meeting to order. 226 00:20:31.890 --> 00:20:32.640 james robb: Okay. 227 00:20:34.890 --> 00:20:37.440 james robb: And I will now move to roll call. 228 00:20:38.760 --> 00:20:39.330 james robb: Ryan. 229 00:20:40.500 --> 00:20:40.860 Brian Averill: sure. 230 00:20:41.580 --> 00:20:43.230 Noel Johnston: Noel yes. 231 00:20:43.560 --> 00:20:45.390 Peter Ruiz: either yes. 232 00:20:45.570 --> 00:20:46.110 Robin. 233 00:20:47.820 --> 00:20:48.780 james robb: awesome Nick. 234 00:20:49.110 --> 00:20:51.660 james robb: brother mark drago. 235 00:20:52.230 --> 00:20:54.120 james robb: Here Andrew. 236 00:20:54.840 --> 00:20:55.380 President. 237 00:20:57.240 --> 00:21:02.250 james robb: Clinton is not going to be here and Mel said he was but that. 238 00:21:02.340 --> 00:21:03.480 is to be determined. 239 00:21:04.560 --> 00:21:04.740 Noel Johnston: This. 240 00:21:05.880 --> 00:21:06.480 Peter Ruiz: Is Nick. 241 00:21:06.930 --> 00:21:08.490 james robb: Nick here okay. 242 00:21:12.090 --> 00:21:15.870 james robb: I moved to approve the Minutes from the prior meeting, so I have a second. 243 00:21:16.590 --> 00:21:17.070 Brian Averill: A second. 244 00:21:18.300 --> 00:21:19.050 Okay. 245 00:21:20.820 --> 00:21:25.860 james robb: Public comments not agenda items related to the ocean front walk. 246 00:21:26.160 --> 00:21:27.090 Nick Antonicello: What will. 247 00:21:27.270 --> 00:21:28.590 Nick Antonicello: call the role on the moon. 248 00:21:30.240 --> 00:21:30.720 james robb: Okay. 249 00:21:31.920 --> 00:21:34.140 james robb: Approval of the Minutes let's go Brian. 250 00:21:35.220 --> 00:21:36.690 james robb: yeah no well. 251 00:21:37.470 --> 00:21:38.730 james robb: Yes, Peter. 252 00:21:39.690 --> 00:21:40.980 james robb: Yes, Robin. 253 00:21:41.430 --> 00:21:42.600 james robb: Yes, Nick. 254 00:21:43.680 --> 00:21:44.040 Nick Antonicello: mark. 255 00:21:49.950 --> 00:21:50.820 Brian Averill: With a minute yes. 256 00:21:51.060 --> 00:21:51.690 Mark Rago: Yes, yes. 257 00:21:51.960 --> 00:21:52.680 james robb: Okay, Andrew. 258 00:21:53.190 --> 00:22:01.350 james robb: Yes, Okay, moving on number four public comments not agenda items related to ocean front walk one minute, Brian. 259 00:22:02.520 --> 00:22:03.270 james robb: Take control. 260 00:22:03.630 --> 00:22:04.530 The. 261 00:22:05.760 --> 00:22:14.730 Brian Averill: We have six attendees if any of you would like to speak carry don Erica Lisa Steve or vicki now it's the time. 262 00:22:17.010 --> 00:22:18.120 Brian Averill: For your hands up if you do. 263 00:22:22.500 --> 00:22:23.700 Brian Averill: I don't think we have any takers. 264 00:22:24.690 --> 00:22:24.990 hey. 265 00:22:26.070 --> 00:22:29.280 james robb: We will move on, Brian read this motion. 266 00:22:30.750 --> 00:22:38.760 Brian Averill: Okay, I wrote this first motion, this is about the beach and ocean front walk scd 11th the initial sensitive use area. 267 00:22:40.740 --> 00:22:50.760 Brian Averill: Whereas the beach is a very unique public resource within CD 11 enjoyed by millions of angelenos and our visitors, whereas the city of Los Angeles spent several months and over $5 million. 268 00:22:50.760 --> 00:22:53.580 Brian Averill: on its successful ocean front walk and kampmann to. 269 00:22:53.580 --> 00:23:03.600 Brian Averill: home program and whereas humane compassionate outreach and services and the fair and reasonable regulation of share public space are not mutually exclusive endeavors. 270 00:23:04.260 --> 00:23:13.200 Brian Averill: Therefore, the dnc formally requests at the beach REC Center and oceanfront was designated as a sensitive use area and Council district 11 under the recently amended la. 271 00:23:15.180 --> 00:23:18.240 Brian Averill: With letters sent to Mr bond and and Mr Chris said he. 272 00:23:18.780 --> 00:23:19.200 said. 273 00:23:20.310 --> 00:23:20.970 Nick Antonicello: Thank you, Nick. 274 00:23:22.140 --> 00:23:23.310 Peter Ruiz: And I have a question. 275 00:23:24.510 --> 00:23:25.020 Brian Averill: sure. 276 00:23:25.680 --> 00:23:27.420 Peter Ruiz: Are we voting on this right now. 277 00:23:28.380 --> 00:23:30.570 Brian Averill: What we're going to take public comment. 278 00:23:31.020 --> 00:23:31.740 Peter Ruiz: On sorry. 279 00:23:31.980 --> 00:23:35.190 Brian Averill: Then we can discuss and then we we we vote. 280 00:23:37.170 --> 00:23:44.880 Brian Averill: So public comment is first if there's any public comment on this motion, please raise your hand I see one. 281 00:23:50.100 --> 00:23:55.650 Brian Averill: Okay, I see to Lisa Europe first go for it. 282 00:23:57.420 --> 00:23:59.340 Lisa Redmond: hi everyone, good evening. 283 00:24:02.190 --> 00:24:06.510 Lisa Redmond: urge that this is not a good thing to do one. 284 00:24:07.590 --> 00:24:13.650 Lisa Redmond: You can't the beach, because the beach is a park and. 285 00:24:15.630 --> 00:24:19.890 Lisa Redmond: are so we're i'm constantly pulled that it is a beach and recreation Center. 286 00:24:20.220 --> 00:24:31.950 Lisa Redmond: In is for the public right away that includes sidewalks and streets and other stuff not parks parks, have their own rules 4118 doesn't fall into parks at all. 287 00:24:32.670 --> 00:24:44.820 Lisa Redmond: You can't go like 4118 westchester park or marvis direct Center or anything like that, so one this doesn't work to I need to urge that we don't. 288 00:24:45.990 --> 00:24:46.740 Lisa Redmond: anything. 289 00:24:47.790 --> 00:24:53.760 Lisa Redmond: it's poorly written all it does is it just criminalizes homeless people and. 290 00:24:54.810 --> 00:25:05.610 Lisa Redmond: pretty soon every unhealthy person that's living in joba spanos district is going to be moving up to Venice because he's got like another hundred and 61 sites in his district. 291 00:25:06.180 --> 00:25:16.140 Lisa Redmond: I think for tomorrow's City Council meeting and all it does is my favorite phrase, I once learn from Brian April, about a year and a half, though, is it just kicks the can down the road. 292 00:25:18.030 --> 00:25:23.070 Lisa Redmond: It doesn't really go in and take care of housing, the way it's supposed to there aren't. 293 00:25:23.640 --> 00:25:42.420 Lisa Redmond: street engagement teams really qualified to do this quickly there isn't housing available, so it just it just criminalizes homelessness and doesn't resolve issues and just pushes it from one business or another place to another so it's still not a well thought out, so my. 294 00:25:43.770 --> 00:25:52.980 Lisa Redmond: burgess for know 4118 but like I said I don't think you can't do it at the beach anyway, but that's my opinion for tonight, thank you for allowing me to speak. 295 00:25:56.010 --> 00:25:58.080 Andrew Mika: who's keeping time on public comment. 296 00:26:00.570 --> 00:26:01.770 Brian Averill: As of now, none of us. 297 00:26:01.800 --> 00:26:03.210 Peter Ruiz: Would you like to fly I can do. 298 00:26:03.570 --> 00:26:03.990 Brian Averill: There we go. 299 00:26:04.080 --> 00:26:04.740 james robb: Either Andrew. 300 00:26:06.090 --> 00:26:07.110 james robb: or Peter Thank you. 301 00:26:07.500 --> 00:26:09.180 Brian Averill: yeah a. 302 00:26:09.600 --> 00:26:11.250 Peter Ruiz: minute two minutes. 303 00:26:11.520 --> 00:26:13.200 Brian Averill: Sure vicki's up. 304 00:26:13.560 --> 00:26:22.500 Vicki Halliday: yeah I won't even take that long, I think this is a great motion to add on to some of the areas that we already put emotion. 305 00:26:23.010 --> 00:26:32.940 Vicki Halliday: Three four I think it's a very valid motion on an area to add to that, so please vote for it, thank you. 306 00:26:33.750 --> 00:26:34.170 Brian Averill: looks like. 307 00:26:36.780 --> 00:26:40.890 Brian Averill: A Erica more go for it. 308 00:26:42.600 --> 00:26:52.350 Erica Moore: hi guys thanks so much for your service i'm really excited to be able to attend to meeting tonight, and I support this because, when i'm reading this. 309 00:26:53.130 --> 00:27:00.570 Erica Moore: It it does talk about being compassionate and it does talk about me who made it is true that we don't want to just this place people. 310 00:27:00.960 --> 00:27:08.160 Erica Moore: But at the same time, we need to find a solution where we're considering them and we're also, at the same time, considering that that is a public space that. 311 00:27:08.550 --> 00:27:17.580 Erica Moore: is enjoyed by many people that are low income there's a lot of people I know personally because of my son being a pastor he was a foster. 312 00:27:17.850 --> 00:27:31.860 Erica Moore: Child in a group home itself central and they use comedy to the beach as a huge part of their recreation and escape from being you know confined to like a you know indoors so I really think it is important to to. 313 00:27:32.790 --> 00:27:48.450 Erica Moore: protect that open space and at the same time, you know be thoughtful of the people that need to find housing so um I don't know the law really well, and so I can't speak to that professionally, but I think there's a way in this this sounds like it's. 314 00:27:49.560 --> 00:27:51.210 Erica Moore: it's considering that, so thank you. 315 00:27:52.050 --> 00:27:52.740 Brian Averill: Thanks Erica. 316 00:27:54.570 --> 00:27:58.980 Brian Averill: see no other public comment, so we could move into board comment. 317 00:27:59.700 --> 00:28:04.140 james robb: rob Lisa Lisa vicki and Erica please lower your hands, please. 318 00:28:06.900 --> 00:28:07.560 james robb: Thank you. 319 00:28:08.580 --> 00:28:13.830 Andrew Mika: Kim Can you also scroll down in the motion, please on your screen, so we can all have it up in front of us. 320 00:28:15.240 --> 00:28:16.170 Andrew Mika: Thank you very much. 321 00:28:20.310 --> 00:28:20.580 james robb: All right. 322 00:28:20.700 --> 00:28:21.240 To. 323 00:28:22.320 --> 00:28:24.360 james robb: Committee discussion no well. 324 00:28:26.940 --> 00:28:27.390 james robb: unmute. 325 00:28:29.610 --> 00:28:33.540 Noel Johnston: me i'd like to know the definition of a sensitive use area. 326 00:28:37.380 --> 00:28:45.600 Brian Averill: Were the city sort of making it up as they go along, so they sort of started, I believe, with schools parks other shelters. 327 00:28:46.290 --> 00:28:47.220 Brian Averill: And then each. 328 00:28:47.250 --> 00:28:54.000 Brian Averill: Council district is proposing some new sensitive areas to sort of add to this first list. 329 00:28:55.560 --> 00:29:00.570 Brian Averill: What I was told that each each Council Member was going to pick one Mr Bruce can you know when. 330 00:29:01.590 --> 00:29:12.780 Brian Averill: A little crazy with that and picked over 100, but I think for us we're at zero now so so much work has already been done at the beach It just seems like it seems like a great idea and a great starting point. 331 00:29:14.400 --> 00:29:18.060 Brian Averill: So, to answer your question it's up to each Council member. 332 00:29:21.960 --> 00:29:31.890 Noel Johnston: Brian let me, let me just say that that I sympathize with your with your answer, because it doesn't seem that there, there is a definition to this, but I think. 333 00:29:32.730 --> 00:29:41.130 Noel Johnston: That if we're going to vote on something like this, we need to know what a sensitive use area really is really what the definition of it really is. 334 00:29:43.290 --> 00:29:51.120 Brian Averill: there's not a strict definition it's up to each Council member they're basically saying we're not going to have encampments in this. 335 00:29:51.420 --> 00:29:56.730 Noel Johnston: Then, then don't don't, we need to to have a definition now, before we vote on this. 336 00:29:57.120 --> 00:29:58.320 Andrew Mika: you're not going to get one. 337 00:30:00.660 --> 00:30:18.000 Brian Averill: I mean the city doesn't even have a definition they're calling it a sensitive use area and each Council member, you know the the sense of US areas are all over the map, if you look at this guy knows list all over the map so for us, this seems like a very reasonable sensible ask. 338 00:30:18.030 --> 00:30:18.900 Brian Averill: Just to start. 339 00:30:19.500 --> 00:30:20.910 Noel Johnston: Okay yeah. 340 00:30:22.140 --> 00:30:28.560 Noel Johnston: It seems like a bad one domain, but if you're if you're right about this and there is no definition doing um. 341 00:30:32.550 --> 00:30:34.770 Noel Johnston: Is this actually vulnerable. 342 00:30:35.820 --> 00:30:36.240 Brian Averill: Everything. 343 00:30:36.510 --> 00:30:39.630 Noel Johnston: We don't know what we're well since we don't know what we're voting for. 344 00:30:41.340 --> 00:30:43.230 Nick Antonicello: that's that's not necessarily true. 345 00:30:44.760 --> 00:30:55.710 Nick Antonicello: A sensitive use areas is a distributor that basically saying we don't want to have encampments in parks and certain public parcels. 346 00:30:56.340 --> 00:31:09.000 Nick Antonicello: So in this case, you would be the beach were saying that having tourists when people go into the beach and and commingling that with people for living on the beach and having captain's. 347 00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:15.870 Nick Antonicello: To eliminate that because it is a sensitive use area and that people are surfing swimming. 348 00:31:17.010 --> 00:31:26.970 Nick Antonicello: Taking showers after the water people walk in the boardwalk I think that's probably the best descriptor of what sensitive use me. 349 00:31:28.650 --> 00:31:30.060 Brian Averill: Okay yeah. 350 00:31:30.630 --> 00:31:35.070 Brian Averill: So everything i've read it's also focused on the number of people so it'd be like an encampment. 351 00:31:36.540 --> 00:31:39.390 Peter Ruiz: What is a sensitive use area. 352 00:31:41.010 --> 00:31:44.130 Robin Rudisill: hey guys, I have the regulation in front of me I can read it. 353 00:31:44.640 --> 00:31:45.180 Brian Averill: I go for it. 354 00:31:45.360 --> 00:31:46.740 that'd be great thanks Robin. 355 00:31:50.250 --> 00:31:50.580 Robin Rudisill: For a. 356 00:31:55.500 --> 00:32:07.380 Robin Rudisill: For a property to be designated as a sensitive use the property must be a school day care Center public park or public library as those terms are defined in section one of 5.1 of this code. 357 00:32:07.650 --> 00:32:08.580 Robin Rudisill: And that's right out of. 358 00:32:08.760 --> 00:32:09.600 4118. 359 00:32:13.920 --> 00:32:14.760 Noel Johnston: And and. 360 00:32:16.140 --> 00:32:19.080 Noel Johnston: Okay, so you're you're you're quoting another. 361 00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:21.120 Noel Johnston: Another. 362 00:32:23.490 --> 00:32:28.050 Robin Rudisill: That i'm quoting the regulation that's mentioned in the emotion of LM. 363 00:32:28.440 --> 00:32:32.100 Noel Johnston: came, but it does it refers you to another regulation. 364 00:32:34.020 --> 00:32:34.620 Robin Rudisill: Now I have. 365 00:32:35.760 --> 00:32:43.980 Robin Rudisill: well know the definitions of those school daycare Center I mean I can go further, if you want. 366 00:32:44.820 --> 00:32:45.270 Raw. 367 00:32:46.650 --> 00:32:47.430 Nick Antonicello: What. 368 00:32:48.330 --> 00:33:00.060 Noel Johnston: let's not go there, I think I mix definition if it sounds reasonable to me and says everybody else is saying that there isn't really a definition toy. 369 00:33:02.520 --> 00:33:07.470 Noel Johnston: I, if I have other areas are calling themselves def sensitive. 370 00:33:09.720 --> 00:33:17.730 Noel Johnston: Giving themselves a sensitive designation I go i'd go along with this, I just think it's kind of peculiar that we don't know what this is. 371 00:33:20.970 --> 00:33:36.900 Nick Antonicello: Well, I think there's a legal there's a legal the legal definition which Robin read and we have, I think, is the more useful descriptor of sensitive use and basically it comes down to parks churches schools. 372 00:33:38.040 --> 00:33:43.020 Nick Antonicello: Areas that you don't want to commingle temporary impairments, or have. 373 00:33:44.910 --> 00:33:46.170 Nick Antonicello: That I don't think. 374 00:33:49.680 --> 00:33:51.000 Brian Averill: This is a park. 375 00:33:51.690 --> 00:33:53.640 Robin Rudisill: I can read the definition of park. 376 00:33:55.290 --> 00:33:58.590 Andrew Mika: We need that we can, can we move to vote. 377 00:33:58.740 --> 00:33:59.220 well. 378 00:34:00.570 --> 00:34:03.570 Robin Rudisill: I think well is interested in it and i'd. 379 00:34:03.570 --> 00:34:03.930 Robin Rudisill: Like to. 380 00:34:04.680 --> 00:34:05.190 park. 381 00:34:06.420 --> 00:34:08.970 Robin Rudisill: yeah public parks, that the regulation. 382 00:34:10.950 --> 00:34:25.230 Robin Rudisill: That I just read said to go to a different code section for the definitions and the definition of library schools yeah The other thing, the only thing that maybe is an issue is public parks so i'm happy to read that. 383 00:34:25.500 --> 00:34:26.070 james robb: read that. 384 00:34:26.310 --> 00:34:27.690 james robb: place to work. 385 00:34:28.590 --> 00:34:31.740 james robb: Okay, Robin will read it then mark allows you to the second. 386 00:34:32.940 --> 00:34:45.060 Robin Rudisill: Public means an open space park playground swimming pool beach Pier reservoir golf course or similar recreational facility, which is under the control operation or management of the city Board of recreation and parks Commissioners. 387 00:34:45.930 --> 00:34:50.760 Robin Rudisill: The Santa Monica mountains conservancy the mountains, recreation conservation authority of the county of. 388 00:34:51.150 --> 00:34:57.990 Robin Rudisill: Los Angeles department of beaches and harbors the county of Los Angeles department of parks and recreation, the California department of parks and recreation or. 389 00:34:58.350 --> 00:35:11.040 Robin Rudisill: The National Park service and she'll further include any property in the city of La zona open space is defined in section 1204 or five the La municipal code that is maintained or operated as a parks and recreation facilities. 390 00:35:11.640 --> 00:35:19.230 Robin Rudisill: Including bicycle trails a question trails walking trails nature trails parkland Lon areas children's play areas children, child care facilities. 391 00:35:20.250 --> 00:35:23.790 Robin Rudisill: facilities and athletic field excuse for park and recreation purpose. 392 00:35:25.980 --> 00:35:28.920 james robb: Robin mark your turn. 393 00:35:29.670 --> 00:35:38.640 Mark Rago: So if you go in law insider calm, for whatever it's worth you bring up sensitive land use and there's like 20 different examples in here and they're all very vague. 394 00:35:39.090 --> 00:35:57.240 Mark Rago: lot of them refer to industrial areas where want to put you know I guess plant near you know communities like that there's also a medical marijuana you know it was used a lot of those cases so it's very vague. 395 00:35:58.260 --> 00:36:01.290 Mark Rago: But it's basically where you don't want an outside. 396 00:36:04.170 --> 00:36:04.740 Mark Rago: Of. 397 00:36:06.300 --> 00:36:08.610 Mark Rago: god's word and jason's. 398 00:36:10.170 --> 00:36:12.720 Mark Rago: or outside entity to adverse the Community. 399 00:36:14.040 --> 00:36:18.480 james robb: Thank you, mark Community okay thanks all right any other panelists questions. 400 00:36:22.560 --> 00:36:23.130 james robb: All right. 401 00:36:24.930 --> 00:36:32.610 Brian Averill: Now, I think this is pretty straightforward and this is just focused on cabinets at the end of the day, everything i've read and everybody i've talked to said it's going to be based on. 402 00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:47.100 Brian Averill: Large and kamins over 20 people over 10 or 12 structures that sort of thing so you're not kicking individuals off the beach with this for the bigger encampments and that has sort of been the cause of a lot of trouble. 403 00:36:47.370 --> 00:36:47.700 The last. 404 00:36:49.410 --> 00:36:51.240 james robb: unmute Peter. 405 00:36:54.630 --> 00:36:55.140 Peter Ruiz: Hello. 406 00:36:55.530 --> 00:36:56.010 james robb: Yes. 407 00:36:56.220 --> 00:36:58.170 james robb: Can you hear me yes. 408 00:36:58.530 --> 00:37:05.610 Peter Ruiz: Okay, so um I, I would just like to comment that I appreciate brian's. 409 00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:09.240 Peter Ruiz: number five here on the beach. 410 00:37:09.870 --> 00:37:24.990 Peter Ruiz: Initiative sensitive area, and the reason is see we need all the any kind of help we can get whether it's from bonnen or the CD or whatever we need to really common dear our park and we need to show the need for more. 411 00:37:25.410 --> 00:37:34.440 Peter Ruiz: Safety if you bring up the safety issue, it goes a long ways being a person with disabilities, if there's no safety involved. 412 00:37:35.310 --> 00:37:49.710 Peter Ruiz: Therefore i'm voting yes, when we do vote and we need everything to be in tip top shape for when the Olympics come where we need to start thinking way outside this scope right now that we're stuck in a two year thing and be thinking four or five so. 413 00:37:51.270 --> 00:37:57.870 Peter Ruiz: Even though it's undefined I would vote no usually but based on the information that you just presented to me i'm voting yes. 414 00:37:58.950 --> 00:37:59.520 Brian Averill: it's better. 415 00:38:00.810 --> 00:38:01.770 Brian Averill: want to do a vote you. 416 00:38:03.480 --> 00:38:07.200 james robb: i'd like i'd like to say it's a pretty much the same thing is Peter, you know. 417 00:38:08.970 --> 00:38:15.840 james robb: I think that this area needs to be for everybody, and I think you know I understand lisa's concerns. 418 00:38:17.370 --> 00:38:24.600 james robb: Hopefully, housing, will will accompany this and and social services and all the other stuff that's needed. 419 00:38:25.890 --> 00:38:29.460 james robb: I think this is just to wait and keep it going so let's take about. 420 00:38:30.930 --> 00:38:31.500 james robb: All right. 421 00:38:32.670 --> 00:38:33.240 james robb: Noel. 422 00:38:36.060 --> 00:38:36.420 james robb: And you. 423 00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:38.040 Peter Ruiz: know well. 424 00:38:40.350 --> 00:38:41.280 Peter Ruiz: She stepped away. 425 00:38:45.090 --> 00:38:45.690 Noel Johnston: Yes. 426 00:38:48.360 --> 00:38:48.750 Brian Averill: yeah. 427 00:38:49.560 --> 00:38:51.600 Peter Ruiz: Peter yes. 428 00:38:52.080 --> 00:38:53.790 Andrew Mika: Andrew yes. 429 00:38:54.390 --> 00:38:55.950 Robin Rudisill: Robin yes. 430 00:38:57.600 --> 00:38:58.050 Nick Antonicello: Yes. 431 00:38:59.250 --> 00:38:59.670 james robb: mark. 432 00:39:00.540 --> 00:39:01.080 Yes. 433 00:39:02.430 --> 00:39:04.470 james robb: Oh abstain from this one, we got it. 434 00:39:06.930 --> 00:39:12.120 james robb: Okay that's great everybody good job okay next motion. 435 00:39:13.710 --> 00:39:14.670 james robb: Oh, please. 436 00:39:16.500 --> 00:39:20.490 james robb: My computer is now acting up Brian can you do anything or no. 437 00:39:22.620 --> 00:39:24.660 james robb: Sorry yeah now my computer. 438 00:39:25.500 --> 00:39:27.810 Brian Averill: it's a this is jason's. 439 00:39:29.820 --> 00:39:32.610 Brian Averill: Jim can you zoom out a little bit. 440 00:39:32.940 --> 00:39:36.360 james robb: I don't know if I can do anything my computer stuck right now so. 441 00:39:36.570 --> 00:39:37.770 Brian Averill: Okay i'll try to read it. 442 00:39:38.820 --> 00:39:45.990 Brian Averill: Whereas currently see it, whereas there's been a recent increase in the number of unpermitted food and drink vendors on oceanfront block. 443 00:39:46.530 --> 00:39:57.150 Brian Averill: Some of them not serving alcoholic beverages, the dnc request a focused effort to regulate these individuals with letter sent to Captain hambrick and a solo contracts. 444 00:40:00.240 --> 00:40:01.020 james robb: Public comment. 445 00:40:01.860 --> 00:40:03.690 Brian Averill: Yes, public comment. 446 00:40:06.720 --> 00:40:08.010 Brian Averill: I see one. 447 00:40:11.310 --> 00:40:12.180 Brian Averill: Erica go for it. 448 00:40:14.640 --> 00:40:27.360 Erica Moore: I strongly support this motion for many, many, many reasons, and I really hope that you will vote for that, because there's there's many reasons why that should be regulated and number one is is public safety. 449 00:40:28.650 --> 00:40:29.250 Erica Moore: There you go. 450 00:40:29.280 --> 00:40:30.960 Brian Averill: Thanks thanks ECHO. 451 00:40:34.680 --> 00:40:38.940 Brian Averill: That is it for public comment of forthcoming are committed comments. 452 00:40:39.900 --> 00:40:40.440 james robb: Go ahead. 453 00:40:44.760 --> 00:40:44.940 Brian Averill: well. 454 00:40:47.640 --> 00:40:50.490 Robin Rudisill: I just want to propose that we add a vc enforcement. 455 00:40:51.600 --> 00:40:58.680 Robin Rudisill: To the letters that are going out, and I can provide the email of the person is responsible for our area. 456 00:40:59.010 --> 00:40:59.790 Brian Averill: So what i'll do. 457 00:41:00.900 --> 00:41:01.770 Robin Rudisill: i'll get that to you. 458 00:41:06.330 --> 00:41:07.230 james robb: Mark drago. 459 00:41:08.490 --> 00:41:09.870 Mark Rago: yeah, I just wanted to say. 460 00:41:10.920 --> 00:41:18.150 Mark Rago: You know, during coven they seem to pop up a lot over the past couple years and in my initial reaction was like if you're just trying to make a buck. 461 00:41:18.660 --> 00:41:29.820 Mark Rago: But I think you have to put something in place, otherwise we're just get worse and worse and worse, and I think you just you have you have to do it has to be done, I think so thanks, thank you. 462 00:41:31.350 --> 00:41:32.340 james robb: anybody else. 463 00:41:33.660 --> 00:41:35.130 james robb: A reader Peter go ahead. 464 00:41:35.790 --> 00:41:52.080 Peter Ruiz: Since i'm an early morning guy and don't see a lot of them serving alcohol early in the morning on the boardwalk I take it, this has to do with ocean front wall right and I was, I wish, he was here to let me know like where is this occurring at I mean. 465 00:41:52.110 --> 00:41:53.520 james robb: I can tell you everywhere. 466 00:41:53.970 --> 00:41:59.250 Peter Ruiz: Okay that's what I meant, though, so it is happening i'm not around to see it, though. 467 00:41:59.850 --> 00:42:04.590 james robb: There were some people with the their truck backed up right next to. 468 00:42:06.390 --> 00:42:11.250 james robb: The window the guy had a Barbecue out and was cooking hamburgers right next to window. 469 00:42:13.440 --> 00:42:15.360 james robb: On the on the boardwalk there's. 470 00:42:15.900 --> 00:42:18.150 Peter Ruiz: off the tours at night and take a look. 471 00:42:18.690 --> 00:42:27.960 james robb: yeah, and I mean it's you know hot dog vendors and he you know he has cali signs, but his his family owns a couple of you know his mom has a piece other spots and. 472 00:42:28.560 --> 00:42:40.440 james robb: You know it's all it's all up and down there hot dog vendor soda vendors people selling T shirts and weed, and so it is you know all of the seat from the same table, so. 473 00:42:41.070 --> 00:42:54.000 james robb: Okay, I think we really definitely need to get a lock on this and it needs enforced there's there's regulations that we have I don't know if they're on there, and like I said, my computer is acting up right now but. 474 00:42:55.440 --> 00:42:56.520 james robb: Go ahead and Dick. 475 00:42:57.450 --> 00:43:03.000 Nick Antonicello: yeah well it's twofold number one the health and safety of the people buying this stuff. 476 00:43:03.570 --> 00:43:14.400 Nick Antonicello: You don't know if they're selling expired me or getting it somewhere really cheap or selling a cheap and the second thing is it just it just hurts the boardwalks ability. 477 00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:20.580 Nick Antonicello: to decrease in vacancy rate and then you got about 25% of the stores that are active. 478 00:43:21.270 --> 00:43:36.930 Nick Antonicello: And you got people out there who are just unregulated without the proper licensing to selling food it undermines anyone's ability for the the layouts to to run on the space so it's something that needs to be done. 479 00:43:40.050 --> 00:43:40.800 james robb: Okay. 480 00:43:44.130 --> 00:43:48.630 james robb: anybody else mark put your hand down all right. 481 00:43:49.140 --> 00:43:50.940 james robb: Mr we do have a comment, we already had. 482 00:43:50.970 --> 00:43:51.870 james robb: No i'll go ahead. 483 00:43:53.190 --> 00:43:53.430 james robb: No. 484 00:43:55.200 --> 00:44:07.080 Noel Johnston: I think that there's also the mess factor alone that a lot of food gets left on the boardwalk and you know I think this is a this thing is a no brainer. 485 00:44:07.560 --> 00:44:23.430 Noel Johnston: All for it, but there are a whole lot of reasons why there shouldn't be unregulated full food sales on the boardwalk, we need to support our businesses, the 261 spaces, have never. 486 00:44:24.450 --> 00:44:32.550 Noel Johnston: allowed food sales before and should now, and I think you know that this is something it's. 487 00:44:33.570 --> 00:44:35.370 Noel Johnston: an easy thanks. 488 00:44:36.390 --> 00:44:42.030 james robb: All right, Nick you know i'll put your hands down, we did public comment already let's do a vote. 489 00:44:43.110 --> 00:44:45.180 james robb: I will start with Noel. 490 00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:52.290 Noel Johnston: uh I guess we're we're voting yes on this right to to support it. 491 00:44:52.560 --> 00:44:56.190 Brian Averill: Yes, and we're adding a CBC to the list of recipients. 492 00:44:58.200 --> 00:45:01.410 james robb: hey Brian yeah Peter. 493 00:45:02.040 --> 00:45:03.420 james robb: Yes, Robin. 494 00:45:03.810 --> 00:45:04.200 Yes. 495 00:45:05.460 --> 00:45:05.850 Nick Antonicello: Yes. 496 00:45:06.330 --> 00:45:07.920 Andrew Mika: Andrew yes. 497 00:45:08.370 --> 00:45:09.150 james robb: Mark Rocco. 498 00:45:09.570 --> 00:45:13.050 james robb: Yes, how about yes, moving on. 499 00:45:14.130 --> 00:45:15.450 james robb: Brian can you read the next one. 500 00:45:16.620 --> 00:45:20.670 Brian Averill: sure this is actually from Peter and the well I just tried to. 501 00:45:21.180 --> 00:45:24.270 james robb: Peter why don't you read it, if you got the printer you're right. 502 00:45:24.360 --> 00:45:25.620 Peter Ruiz: Yes, please can you hear me. 503 00:45:26.700 --> 00:45:28.260 Andrew Mika: Okay, yes, you scroll down. 504 00:45:29.700 --> 00:45:30.120 Peter Ruiz: Right. 505 00:45:30.810 --> 00:45:32.850 james robb: Like I can maybe scroll down. 506 00:45:33.390 --> 00:45:33.930 Andrew Mika: Thank you. 507 00:45:35.070 --> 00:45:35.850 Peter Ruiz: My unmuted. 508 00:45:37.980 --> 00:45:38.550 Brian Averill: Know you're muted. 509 00:45:39.780 --> 00:45:53.430 Peter Ruiz: Okay design in install an arch at the entrance of the Venice Pier, whereas the newly remodeled peer deserves an iconic arch or sign at it's entering spend if fitting. 510 00:45:54.870 --> 00:46:10.710 Peter Ruiz: Venice unique cultural and creative creative history, the dnc request that a project to design and fun this effort will be initiated with letter Center councilman bond in Michael shul. 511 00:46:11.730 --> 00:46:15.570 Peter Ruiz: And, Sonia young hi man, I never hang man is. 512 00:46:15.660 --> 00:46:18.000 Peter Ruiz: is ever rap and. 513 00:46:19.470 --> 00:46:23.700 Peter Ruiz: yeah so that's that's the motion and i'd like to speak on it, if I can. 514 00:46:24.060 --> 00:46:27.690 james robb: help fill us in a little bit more don't get to take too long, but. 515 00:46:27.810 --> 00:46:29.070 Peter Ruiz: hey go ahead and check it out. 516 00:46:29.220 --> 00:46:29.790 Nick Antonicello: Oh boy. 517 00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:32.820 Peter Ruiz: Two minutes set my timer. 518 00:46:32.940 --> 00:46:33.660 james robb: On a second. 519 00:46:34.110 --> 00:46:37.110 Peter Ruiz: Okay, so here's how it works if a. 520 00:46:37.170 --> 00:46:39.630 Peter Ruiz: way initially started with your project. 521 00:46:39.690 --> 00:46:40.080 First. 522 00:46:41.220 --> 00:46:42.270 Peter Ruiz: comment sorry. 523 00:46:42.480 --> 00:46:44.670 Brian Averill: Public comment no worries. 524 00:46:49.770 --> 00:46:50.730 Brian Averill: Jim Can you see that. 525 00:46:52.200 --> 00:46:54.420 james robb: I can see Lisa raye has been raised her hand. 526 00:46:55.800 --> 00:46:58.110 Brian Averill: least so go for it cancel Tyler. 527 00:47:00.090 --> 00:47:08.850 Lisa Redmond: great project and it should be done because we have a very bland boring entrance and we do need something special to stand out and be spectacular. 528 00:47:10.200 --> 00:47:30.360 Lisa Redmond: And I can foresee that this is a contest where people submit art design ideas, the Council office in the city council has money for public art projects that this could be tapped into um yeah it's a great idea, thank you for bringing it up, thank you for dreaming about. 529 00:47:31.440 --> 00:47:32.400 james robb: Thank you Lisa. 530 00:47:32.490 --> 00:47:34.470 james robb: Great will take note on that. 531 00:47:34.950 --> 00:47:37.350 Brian Averill: there's more go for it. 532 00:47:39.030 --> 00:47:46.560 Erica Moore: I also love that idea and I love all the additions that Lisa just brought up about it being tied into. 533 00:47:47.100 --> 00:47:55.830 Erica Moore: Possible art programs or the city, maybe even evolved, you know that has high school or anybody who wants to submit you know renderings etc. 534 00:47:56.490 --> 00:48:05.640 Erica Moore: I think it's a great way to get the Community involved, and it will brighten up the Community, and we do absolutely need that I was on that fear just the other day it's very dark in the entry thanks. 535 00:48:08.370 --> 00:48:11.910 Brian Averill: That is it for public comment Peter you want to the foot. 536 00:48:12.210 --> 00:48:17.790 Peter Ruiz: Okay, so um once again, I appreciate public comment because we. 537 00:48:18.720 --> 00:48:31.710 Peter Ruiz: donate our time for the public, and we always got to remind ourselves that it's the public we're interested in not ourselves all the time, so keep that in mind, but as I researched this and I started going up and down the whole coast. 538 00:48:33.510 --> 00:48:45.540 Peter Ruiz: Almost every single period or, if not every peer has a name out over the entrance or a sign or something telling you what periods, so I think everyone's on board on that. 539 00:48:46.770 --> 00:48:56.460 Peter Ruiz: Yes, I, like the whole it's up to our committee to figure out how we want to approach it or whatever, but I just want to get the ball rolling, because it usually takes a few years to get something going. 540 00:48:58.950 --> 00:49:00.720 james robb: To go ahead. 541 00:49:02.910 --> 00:49:13.080 Nick Antonicello: I was gonna say it's a research on the on the instead of my computer that side was constructed by the wpa like the 1937 38. 542 00:49:14.880 --> 00:49:15.720 Nick Antonicello: federal project. 543 00:49:16.950 --> 00:49:20.670 Nick Antonicello: But yeah I totally agree with Peter everything he said is absolutely correct. 544 00:49:21.930 --> 00:49:30.360 Nick Antonicello: We should take the trussell sign at you know at the beach, and maybe use that as a as a template that you have Dennis Peter. 545 00:49:30.930 --> 00:49:42.900 Nick Antonicello: The Mexicans consistent or something like that, but it's definitely overdue and for all the structural work that was done the Pier now we're going to do a little window dressing and make it make it great so. 546 00:49:43.380 --> 00:49:44.670 Brian Averill: I think peter out about them. 547 00:49:46.140 --> 00:49:50.010 james robb: Thanks Nick all right, we could take about now. 548 00:49:51.360 --> 00:49:54.930 james robb: All right, let's go Nick yes well. 549 00:49:55.440 --> 00:49:57.300 james robb: Yes, Brian. 550 00:49:58.170 --> 00:49:59.430 Brian Averill: Yes, I do. 551 00:50:00.540 --> 00:50:00.990 james robb: theater. 552 00:50:01.890 --> 00:50:03.360 Peter Ruiz: Of course, yes. 553 00:50:04.410 --> 00:50:04.890 james robb: Robin. 554 00:50:05.400 --> 00:50:06.600 Robin Rudisill: Yes, thank you, Peter. 555 00:50:07.350 --> 00:50:09.210 Andrew Mika: Andrew yes. 556 00:50:09.690 --> 00:50:12.450 Mark Rago: archipelago yes gonna dp. 557 00:50:13.110 --> 00:50:15.060 james robb: All right, i'll say yes unanimous. 558 00:50:17.250 --> 00:50:18.990 Peter Ruiz: We got nine votes on that one. 559 00:50:20.790 --> 00:50:30.720 james robb: All right, moving on number eight, this is my motion to admit to address my ballet violations in parking along speedway. 560 00:50:32.220 --> 00:50:37.470 james robb: Including a lot of other stuff there's, whereas the valet company. 561 00:50:39.750 --> 00:50:52.380 james robb: ballet company of valley companies along speedway most nodal notably Venice boulevard regular daily drive and direct visitors the wrong way on speedway and also routinely. 562 00:50:53.520 --> 00:50:58.290 james robb: parked cars in private spaces owned by other ocean front walk businesses. 563 00:50:59.400 --> 00:51:06.240 james robb: The dnc request that this issue be rectified with the letter sent to Brian hill. 564 00:51:07.350 --> 00:51:14.190 james robb: la do T Eric ruins la city CD 11 and slow contrariness. 565 00:51:18.900 --> 00:51:23.490 james robb: Okay, thank you, Tom now let's do public comment if there's any. 566 00:51:26.760 --> 00:51:28.140 Brian Averill: Any public comment on the. 567 00:51:28.140 --> 00:51:29.310 Brian Averill: valet situation. 568 00:51:33.150 --> 00:51:34.590 Brian Averill: Erica more. 569 00:51:38.850 --> 00:51:39.780 james robb: Compared to unmute. 570 00:51:40.290 --> 00:51:51.720 Erica Moore: There we go, you know I definitely see the need for that i've been down in that little section lately, and if there is a gross misuse of people parking so I really hope you support this motion. 571 00:51:52.650 --> 00:51:53.130 james robb: Thank you. 572 00:51:55.170 --> 00:51:56.160 james robb: anybody else. 573 00:51:57.900 --> 00:51:58.950 Brian Averill: No other public comment. 574 00:51:59.550 --> 00:52:00.060 Okay. 575 00:52:01.920 --> 00:52:03.150 james robb: Committee comment no well. 576 00:52:04.140 --> 00:52:09.240 Noel Johnston: I gotta say i'm i'm totally unaware of this Can somebody explain exactly what's going on. 577 00:52:09.600 --> 00:52:10.560 james robb: I would love to. 578 00:52:11.820 --> 00:52:27.660 james robb: The city, the city of Venice, the area Venice is ran by one parking company, it is called safety park they did this stuff in front of see you know when it was open they park their vehicles over at the school behind the arbor. 579 00:52:28.770 --> 00:52:38.880 james robb: All the restaurants on Windward boulevard the new 300 person restaurant at the corner that was larry's the townhouse. 580 00:52:41.190 --> 00:53:02.160 james robb: Great White all of those all of those don't have parking now, including the hip Tiki bar which which removed 30 parking spaces, they all say that their parking is across the street at the old IP the gas station that some of the corner across from the post office, so I you know. 581 00:53:03.210 --> 00:53:10.770 james robb: The empty snapchat building where dirty is that is safety park all along speedway if you look at any. 582 00:53:11.670 --> 00:53:20.880 james robb: Were Carl Lambert, or whatever his name his hotel is that's right there, I think, on the corner I rose is they use safety park to. 583 00:53:21.840 --> 00:53:30.210 james robb: For some reason safety Park, is the only valet company allowed to operate in Venice and I don't know why that is. 584 00:53:31.050 --> 00:53:44.580 james robb: But on my corner behind it sugar they send people down speedway the wrong way, and then, if they don't want to pay the $10 per hour where they could put park in the public spots places for $8 a day. 585 00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:51.120 james robb: Then they get pissed off and they continue down speedway all the way toward Windward the wrong way. 586 00:53:52.950 --> 00:53:58.080 james robb: I mean there's other emotions that we had to repaint the speedway so people know where they're going, and all that but. 587 00:53:59.580 --> 00:54:00.930 james robb: I think there's a little a. 588 00:54:02.550 --> 00:54:11.130 james robb: suspicious activity going on with this one parking company that supposedly has parking for all the businesses that are now allowing. 589 00:54:13.650 --> 00:54:17.040 james robb: The outdoor seating so that's that's my comment on that. 590 00:54:19.380 --> 00:54:22.470 james robb: where you can go right away, you know well down the street and all those. 591 00:54:22.470 --> 00:54:33.510 james robb: parking underneath those building that's all safety Park, so I just wonder if they have permits to park at the journey building or if it's just the owner, saying they can they can park there so. 592 00:54:33.930 --> 00:54:41.730 james robb: I would really like to do a deep dive into see if they're even allowed and have business licenses to do what they're doing but that's that's my comment. 593 00:54:42.120 --> 00:54:44.760 Noel Johnston: or basic objection that there are a monopoly. 594 00:54:45.630 --> 00:54:45.990 Ah. 595 00:54:47.700 --> 00:54:50.310 james robb: I think there's a lot of objection there's a monopoly. 596 00:54:50.910 --> 00:55:01.080 Brian Averill: No, I think the objection is that they're sending people the wrong way down speedway on purpose and they're taking parking spaces from ocean fun walk businesses, without asking. 597 00:55:02.880 --> 00:55:04.020 james robb: Okay, Peter go ahead. 598 00:55:06.090 --> 00:55:07.200 james robb: Any any any. 599 00:55:10.950 --> 00:55:16.950 Peter Ruiz: i've been familiar with the blank glad you brought up the motion really because the. 600 00:55:18.060 --> 00:55:30.360 Peter Ruiz: Company basically pops up, and I think they get in trouble and move somewhere else real quick because they were around my peer for a while and that was a real big problem you've mentioned about the school but uh um. 601 00:55:30.900 --> 00:55:40.980 Peter Ruiz: what's happening is also they have no regulation whatsoever I don't even know what's going on with that company, because you can't get any straight answers from the employees themselves. 602 00:55:42.780 --> 00:55:44.790 Peter Ruiz: So yeah I would have to. 603 00:55:46.320 --> 00:55:47.910 I don't know where I was going with that. 604 00:55:49.230 --> 00:55:54.000 james robb: Well, I think we need to do a deeper dive but for right now, this is doing is this one, but. 605 00:55:54.330 --> 00:55:57.540 Peter Ruiz: Trust me, you know yeah they're they're charging the public. 606 00:55:57.930 --> 00:56:12.810 Peter Ruiz: For a parking spot that's public that's what i'm getting at they take the car run around find a spot park the car run back to the other spot, but that was a public spot so they're making 10 bucks off of a public spot and that's it that's a problem. 607 00:56:13.650 --> 00:56:23.550 james robb: There and they're lying because they're all these businesses they're saying they have parking and there's not enough to park for all these businesses at that gas station so well go ahead. 608 00:56:24.600 --> 00:56:26.820 Noel Johnston: I need to take my hand down I said. 609 00:56:26.820 --> 00:56:27.060 james robb: we're. 610 00:56:27.270 --> 00:56:30.870 james robb: So sorry all right we're moving quick on this one Nick any comments. 611 00:56:31.380 --> 00:56:33.240 Nick Antonicello: or questions okay. 612 00:56:34.920 --> 00:56:36.060 james robb: Robin, what do you think. 613 00:56:36.630 --> 00:56:41.790 james robb: Yes, okay all right let's go Robin says yes Noel. 614 00:56:43.560 --> 00:56:45.360 james robb: Okay, Brian. 615 00:56:45.840 --> 00:56:47.340 james robb: yep Peter. 616 00:56:48.960 --> 00:56:50.670 Peter Ruiz: Yes, Nick. 617 00:56:51.000 --> 00:56:52.470 james robb: Yes, Andrew. 618 00:56:52.920 --> 00:56:55.020 james robb: Yes, mark drago. 619 00:56:55.560 --> 00:56:59.070 james robb: Yes, all right unanimous vote yes. 620 00:57:00.210 --> 00:57:02.610 james robb: Moving on, Brian hey. 621 00:57:03.390 --> 00:57:05.670 james robb: This is this yours, or is this Andrews. 622 00:57:05.730 --> 00:57:06.390 james robb: This is Andrew. 623 00:57:06.630 --> 00:57:14.430 Brian Averill: This is mine, this is a the just the general street drainage, and the Rose avenue storm drain, which I believe we're all connected. 624 00:57:15.090 --> 00:57:24.240 Brian Averill: Whereas our last two significant rainfalls have resulted in a clear failure of our training system along with overwhelming noxious fumes across North Venice. 625 00:57:24.930 --> 00:57:36.420 Brian Averill: The dnc request the source of these problems be identified and genuinely rectified with letters Santa Barbara we're now at La sanitation Keith mosey at St services and Mr Barton. 626 00:57:38.040 --> 00:57:38.640 james robb: Okay. 627 00:57:38.910 --> 00:57:39.330 Brian Averill: Second. 628 00:57:40.260 --> 00:57:43.290 Brian Averill: i'll second Thank you Jim rob we go to public comments. 629 00:57:48.780 --> 00:57:49.920 Brian Averill: Can you see any sorry I could. 630 00:57:50.460 --> 00:57:51.180 james robb: not see any. 631 00:57:53.640 --> 00:58:01.800 james robb: Going once going twice gone all right, the committee comment. 632 00:58:04.380 --> 00:58:26.760 Nick Antonicello: yeah I put the problem is that the catch basin along those trunks are not being cleaned and i'll bet nine times to $1 that it's all kinds of crap that's that doing cabinets and for whatever reason dwp is not it's not cleaning these candidates, and you know so. 633 00:58:27.960 --> 00:58:30.900 Nick Antonicello: Hopefully, in the past, this we have. 634 00:58:32.220 --> 00:58:39.630 Nick Antonicello: communication with them up i'm almost convinced that the catch basin because it's not a big apartment one. 635 00:58:43.170 --> 00:58:43.740 james robb: All right. 636 00:58:45.450 --> 00:58:45.900 james robb: Andrew. 637 00:58:46.800 --> 00:58:55.440 Andrew Mika: Brian do you want to add to this just the what we talked about the email about the areas around the drains being. 638 00:58:56.490 --> 00:59:07.170 Andrew Mika: called properly landscape, for the flow of water going through them, rather than just sand piling into them and trash if that's too much i'd rather just pass this and we can work on that another time. 639 00:59:07.290 --> 00:59:10.110 Brian Averill: I mean the street trains which drains exactly. 640 00:59:10.260 --> 00:59:13.140 Andrew Mika: Well, if you go on ocean front walk the drains. 641 00:59:15.000 --> 00:59:32.670 Andrew Mika: Around the grass are just essentially covered in Sam so it rains and stand piles up and then it's they're pointless they're just they're just saying falling into the drains rather than yeah if they just put cement around them on a little higher on a level you won't have that issue. 642 00:59:34.140 --> 00:59:35.280 Brian Averill: I mean, I just wanted them. 643 00:59:36.210 --> 00:59:39.420 Brian Averill: To investigate because something is clearly wrong, like everything. 644 00:59:39.420 --> 00:59:39.660 Andrew Mika: Was. 645 00:59:40.140 --> 00:59:49.890 Brian Averill: Like third third street all when it rains all those trains are just completely flooded and the smell I don't even know it smell is but it's it's terrifying it's awful. 646 00:59:50.250 --> 00:59:56.220 Brian Averill: yeah Someone needs to do a deep dive literally do a deep dive get in there and figure out what's wrong with it. 647 00:59:56.370 --> 01:00:00.840 Andrew Mika: it's just yeah let's pass this ignore my college and do that later okay. 648 01:00:01.470 --> 01:00:07.200 Brian Averill: yeah we can do another one next month specific, but I just want someone to call them and figure out what the hell's going on. 649 01:00:09.090 --> 01:00:09.450 Okay. 650 01:00:10.530 --> 01:00:12.180 james robb: Did we have public comment on this. 651 01:00:12.600 --> 01:00:12.870 Brian Averill: There was. 652 01:00:13.620 --> 01:00:14.430 Andrew Mika: there's no comment. 653 01:00:14.820 --> 01:00:15.990 james robb: Okay let's do about. 654 01:00:16.530 --> 01:00:17.370 james robb: Still Andrew. 655 01:00:17.760 --> 01:00:19.440 james robb: Yes, well. 656 01:00:21.120 --> 01:00:21.660 james robb: Brian. 657 01:00:22.110 --> 01:00:25.710 james robb: yep Peter Oh yes, Robin. 658 01:00:26.820 --> 01:00:27.360 Robin Rudisill: Yes. 659 01:00:28.260 --> 01:00:29.820 james robb: Yes, mark Rocco. 660 01:00:30.270 --> 01:00:34.500 james robb: Yes, I go yes good job everybody. 661 01:00:35.340 --> 01:00:37.080 james robb: All right, this one's Anders right. 662 01:00:38.160 --> 01:00:39.150 Andrew Mika: Now. 663 01:00:41.010 --> 01:00:41.850 Brian Averill: isn't it the painting. 664 01:00:42.750 --> 01:00:44.550 Noel Johnston: Number 1010. 665 01:00:45.870 --> 01:00:46.350 Brian Averill: Noel. 666 01:00:47.100 --> 01:00:47.550 Noel. 667 01:00:49.500 --> 01:01:02.430 Noel Johnston: Whereas they're currently white is meant lines to the west of the businesses along ocean front walk and whereas these lines are being ignored by many businesses and vendors along the ocean front walk who now encroach on the right of way. 668 01:01:03.510 --> 01:01:16.110 Noel Johnston: The nc recommends that reckon parks coordination with the Venice beach bid repaint to enforce the limits of these these Minutes for the letter to Sonia young and menace at rob. 669 01:01:16.740 --> 01:01:17.160 directed. 670 01:01:18.330 --> 01:01:19.890 james robb: All right, Nick second in. 671 01:01:20.430 --> 01:01:21.150 Nick Antonicello: Public comment. 672 01:01:21.690 --> 01:01:23.760 Brian Averill: The Lisa admin. 673 01:01:24.420 --> 01:01:26.400 Andrew Mika: Can you scroll down, so we can read it please. 674 01:01:26.760 --> 01:01:28.440 Andrew Mika: Okay, thank you. 675 01:01:29.400 --> 01:01:30.060 Brian Averill: they're really so. 676 01:01:30.540 --> 01:01:35.910 Lisa Redmond: hey a little history when the park started reopening. 677 01:01:36.570 --> 01:01:41.220 Lisa Redmond: The Spring, you know first was April with the handball courts and the second was. 678 01:01:42.540 --> 01:01:54.570 Lisa Redmond: We cleared the encampments and people off the actual physical boardwalk because it was promised them that the lines were all going to be repainted. 679 01:01:55.410 --> 01:02:05.910 Lisa Redmond: In May, all the vendor spaces, all the easement lines everything, so this is Sonia needs to be held accountable she that's what you promised them so. 680 01:02:06.960 --> 01:02:09.660 Lisa Redmond: You know, we had to move on house people make it happen. 681 01:02:10.740 --> 01:02:11.160 james robb: Oh that's. 682 01:02:11.880 --> 01:02:14.730 james robb: that's great Thank you Lisa Lisa and yes. 683 01:02:15.180 --> 01:02:17.670 james robb: you're gonna make it happen, I will do a little bit. 684 01:02:19.020 --> 01:02:24.660 james robb: Deeper dive into it, but yeah we want them all painted and you know all of that Thank you Lisa. 685 01:02:25.740 --> 01:02:27.360 james robb: Any other public comments. 686 01:02:28.260 --> 01:02:29.910 Brian Averill: That was it committee common. 687 01:02:30.810 --> 01:02:31.260 well. 688 01:02:32.520 --> 01:02:43.950 Noel Johnston: I would like to say that, Sonia is repainting the 261 spaces right now I don't know how ship far she's gotten but I was out there in. 689 01:02:44.400 --> 01:02:57.960 Noel Johnston: Space I think 38 today and it's nicely and neatly repainted um I was personally a little disappointed that they hadn't enlarge some of the entertainment spaces or. 690 01:02:59.970 --> 01:03:14.640 Noel Johnston: dealt with changing any of these I guess that's very tricky from political standpoint, in any case, the West side of the boardwalk is being repainted the East side of the boardwalk, which is what i'm talking about here is. 691 01:03:17.400 --> 01:03:27.240 Noel Johnston: debatable, because there are lines there that are running under building and I think this is this is needs. 692 01:03:27.930 --> 01:03:41.730 Noel Johnston: real consideration and enforcement as well, because there are some businesses that have exceeded the white line so dramatically they're out some of them three feet beyond those white lines that. 693 01:03:42.780 --> 01:03:50.670 Noel Johnston: It makes pedestrian traffic difficult and hazardous and we've seen trip and fall we've seen. 694 01:03:51.930 --> 01:03:53.340 Noel Johnston: businesses that are. 695 01:03:55.440 --> 01:04:01.680 Noel Johnston: In putting putting items out on the boardwalk that probably shouldn't be on the boardwalk at all. 696 01:04:03.060 --> 01:04:08.970 Noel Johnston: We don't we don't have much enforcement out on the boardwalk right now, but this, this is a. 697 01:04:09.990 --> 01:04:14.910 Noel Johnston: something of a problem now, but it will be a greater problem in the future. 698 01:04:16.200 --> 01:04:21.060 Noel Johnston: More and more, more and more pedestrian traffic we get this summer on the boardwalk. 699 01:04:23.640 --> 01:04:25.080 james robb: Thank you, Peter. 700 01:04:25.740 --> 01:04:29.400 Peter Ruiz: out that was fine she elaborated on what I was gonna say. 701 01:04:30.720 --> 01:04:46.800 james robb: I don't know Robin if you know anything about any of this and who would serve out of the survey, that is, you know now there's some buildings that like she said that stick out as or i'm just wondering how they could read line them or what. 702 01:04:47.880 --> 01:04:53.040 Robin Rudisill: yeah the city to identify the property lines and the easement should be. 703 01:04:55.170 --> 01:04:55.650 Peter Ruiz: easy. 704 01:04:56.640 --> 01:05:01.470 james robb: Okay, so there we go that's good enough on that let's take it, oh no well. 705 01:05:02.040 --> 01:05:03.300 james robb: Yes, Ryan. 706 01:05:03.780 --> 01:05:04.920 james robb: yep Peter. 707 01:05:05.310 --> 01:05:06.030 Peter Ruiz: Yes, please. 708 01:05:06.120 --> 01:05:07.380 Robin Rudisill: Robin yes. 709 01:05:08.610 --> 01:05:09.000 Nick Antonicello: yeah. 710 01:05:09.420 --> 01:05:10.980 Andrew Mika: Andrew yes. 711 01:05:11.250 --> 01:05:11.880 james robb: Mark Rocco. 712 01:05:12.450 --> 01:05:15.780 james robb: Yes, I go yes okay. 713 01:05:18.630 --> 01:05:19.140 james robb: Andrew. 714 01:05:20.010 --> 01:05:24.660 Andrew Mika: yeah, but I just proposed it, I don't actually know who wrote it but i'll read it. 715 01:05:25.080 --> 01:05:26.340 james robb: I read it already. 716 01:05:26.370 --> 01:05:28.560 Andrew Mika: Thanks Brian you're you're a great writer. 717 01:05:28.860 --> 01:05:29.580 And one of the kitchen. 718 01:05:31.740 --> 01:05:32.340 Brian Averill: crosses. 719 01:05:34.530 --> 01:05:39.660 Andrew Mika: All right, whereas the patchy grey paint on our beach restrooms is dreary and uninviting. 720 01:05:39.930 --> 01:05:46.350 Andrew Mika: And does not at all reflect venice's creative history, therefore, the dnc request that a more colorful aesthetically pleasing. 721 01:05:46.620 --> 01:05:59.610 Andrew Mika: repainting project be undertaken with letters sentence Michael shows so new young ramirez and Council member bonding can we can we also can be a menace to add, in that the bathrooms are clean like five times a day. 722 01:06:02.250 --> 01:06:04.950 Andrew Mika: I don't know how many is a reasonable amount, but. 723 01:06:07.800 --> 01:06:09.390 Brian Averill: I would say that would be a different motion. 724 01:06:10.260 --> 01:06:12.840 Andrew Mika: So we'll get back to that one but let's go to this one. 725 01:06:13.620 --> 01:06:22.800 james robb: But like we talked about it in the peer I think get the public involved, however, we were talking about doing the thing with the Pier as well yeah no. 726 01:06:24.000 --> 01:06:25.620 Brian Averill: I second that, for the record. 727 01:06:25.710 --> 01:06:27.570 Brian Averill: And we got to do public comment first. 728 01:06:28.980 --> 01:06:34.920 Brian Averill: If there is anybody be paying the bathrooms Ms more go for it. 729 01:06:35.940 --> 01:06:50.400 Erica Moore: Yes to me, is obviously no brainer, of course, we should repeat the bathrooms it needs to be clean, we need to have new thing should be maintained and is a wonderful fantasy to have complete five times today. 730 01:06:53.040 --> 01:06:55.650 Erica Moore: Be amazing but clearly will never happen. 731 01:06:57.030 --> 01:07:03.690 Erica Moore: But that was fun anyways yes please Thank you so much, Andrew for proposing this I think it's right. 732 01:07:06.480 --> 01:07:07.020 Noel Johnston: Lisa. 733 01:07:08.010 --> 01:07:08.430 james robb: i'm you. 734 01:07:15.120 --> 01:07:15.750 Brian Averill: Going so. 735 01:07:17.520 --> 01:07:30.480 Lisa Redmond: For your for your future motion about bathroom thing i'm just going to put a little thought in your head that in Santa Monica it's their bid in their Ambassador program that keeps the bathrooms clean with attendance just surfing. 736 01:07:31.380 --> 01:07:32.310 Andrew Mika: And you good. 737 01:07:32.760 --> 01:07:36.240 james robb: yeah could we add to bid to that or is that different for us. 738 01:07:37.260 --> 01:07:40.440 Brian Averill: Well that's we're not doing that motion right now oh. 739 01:07:40.500 --> 01:07:41.820 james robb: Yes, nevermind Thank you. 740 01:07:43.980 --> 01:07:44.430 james robb: well. 741 01:07:45.600 --> 01:07:48.630 Noel Johnston: I think this is a great beginning of emotion. 742 01:07:49.980 --> 01:07:55.980 Noel Johnston: I don't think 10 bathrooms need to be painted in an integrated manner, I think. 743 01:07:57.540 --> 01:08:04.020 Noel Johnston: I think that when they look for bidding that's you know, hopefully people won't use them, but you pay. 744 01:08:04.260 --> 01:08:04.950 Andrew Mika: in jail. 745 01:08:05.280 --> 01:08:19.230 Noel Johnston: I don't know what that means I think they should be kept kept really clean and I like Andrews idea about cleaning them more often than we do I like the idea of fresh paint job being applied frequently rather than. 746 01:08:20.520 --> 01:08:29.850 Noel Johnston: waiting until they get just some grubbing that people like us, are complaining about it, but I really think this is the beginning of a much stronger. 747 01:08:30.870 --> 01:08:32.310 Noel Johnston: motion that. 748 01:08:33.420 --> 01:08:41.310 Noel Johnston: That, I think, is what Andrew is pointing at enter correct me if i'm wrong, but I, it seems to me that that. 749 01:08:42.480 --> 01:08:51.270 Noel Johnston: The bathrooms need to be need to be kept really clean and and and not look as though they're little presence. 750 01:08:53.910 --> 01:08:55.170 james robb: All right, no, thank you. 751 01:08:56.250 --> 01:08:57.300 james robb: Nick go ahead. 752 01:08:58.260 --> 01:09:08.160 Nick Antonicello: No, I was just gonna say on the exterior of the structures, like, for example the one bathroom that's next to the basketball court where they have a shower. 753 01:09:08.820 --> 01:09:16.710 Nick Antonicello: They probably can't paint on that side because of the fact that waters constantly dripping on the building, but they shouldn't be a uniform look. 754 01:09:17.520 --> 01:09:22.620 Nick Antonicello: To the three or four bathrooms that are in Venice and they think they should kind of take. 755 01:09:23.550 --> 01:09:40.950 Nick Antonicello: follow what they did with the lifeguard stations on the beach where they kind of made them look cool and different but most importantly I didn't need to adjust this in future me please three or four more bathroom I mean we just do, and then we have about 35%. 756 01:09:42.480 --> 01:09:53.790 Nick Antonicello: occupancy with you can you compare them to the number of people that go to say Disneyland and the amount of people come to the speech and the next day 432 bathrooms in business. 757 01:09:54.630 --> 01:10:06.900 Nick Antonicello: And I think we have five or four i'm not have the number, the number, but we definitely need more bathrooms and as Peter said, with the Olympics coming up infrastructure is a big thing. 758 01:10:07.530 --> 01:10:17.430 Nick Antonicello: That the city's going to address, so if there are any events at at Venice beach for the Olympics, you know we really need to start thinking about. 759 01:10:18.120 --> 01:10:32.310 Nick Antonicello: infrastructure needs and these infrastructure needs will be will be here long after the Olympics are gone and that's one of the reasons why people want the Olympics, is because they get all this infrastructure value and benefits, what the Games are all. 760 01:10:33.630 --> 01:10:40.680 james robb: Thank you and that's that's great and, as you know, Nick from being on our ocean front walk for the last three and a half years. 761 01:10:41.250 --> 01:10:58.170 james robb: We have passed many emotions, to ask for more bathrooms and for some of them to be open 24 hours and all that, so you know we're finally getting the ballers which took two and a half years, so you know, like Peter said we got to get on it down Thank you mark. 762 01:11:00.360 --> 01:11:01.950 james robb: You know Noel and Nick. 763 01:11:02.280 --> 01:11:03.420 james robb: Lower your hands, please. 764 01:11:04.500 --> 01:11:05.940 Mark Rago: Those bathrooms are. 765 01:11:06.060 --> 01:11:08.790 Mark Rago: filthy inside horribly ugly outside. 766 01:11:10.980 --> 01:11:22.260 Mark Rago: I was also wondering if we put signs up and say there's a fine for urinating in public goes, we still get people all the time coming off the walkway peeing in our alleys and driveways and garages so. 767 01:11:23.280 --> 01:11:33.000 Mark Rago: it's about oh also maybe like a mural is that even worthwhile talking about maybe instead of just paint yellow does have a pop up on your own just a thought thanks. 768 01:11:33.960 --> 01:11:44.820 Andrew Mika: I thought it might be interesting to engage the Venice our walls and have like a part of basic public part is to have things be inviting right so rather than have something to look like. 769 01:11:45.930 --> 01:11:56.370 Andrew Mika: It again my example, an outdoor prison bathroom would be sharp creative murals on the wall I didn't think I don't really want to get too detailed. 770 01:11:56.850 --> 01:11:59.670 james robb: I I have been in prison and the bathroom is. 771 01:11:59.670 --> 01:12:00.510 james robb: Probably nicer. 772 01:12:02.310 --> 01:12:03.600 Brian Averill: let's save that for the next meeting. 773 01:12:04.890 --> 01:12:05.670 james robb: Right go ahead. 774 01:12:05.760 --> 01:12:15.270 Brian Averill: Just following up on what Andrew said, it is a great idea, they do look horribly dreary and it has nothing to do with Venice everything like Peters arch idea. 775 01:12:15.570 --> 01:12:24.210 Brian Averill: it's a such a special place and there's so much creative history that even the Pier the bathrooms everything should reflect that history in one way or another. 776 01:12:25.260 --> 01:12:33.780 Brian Averill: and reaching out to Bruno Andrew is a great idea these guys to the art walls they're getting super organized their events are great their work is great. 777 01:12:34.290 --> 01:12:42.840 Brian Averill: Why not let them paint the bathrooms, why does it have to look like this horrible prison it's already scary enough in those bathrooms at least we could start with the outside. 778 01:12:44.190 --> 01:12:44.730 james robb: Okay. 779 01:12:46.140 --> 01:12:48.000 james robb: Thank you all so let's do, though. 780 01:12:49.320 --> 01:12:49.770 james robb: Brian. 781 01:12:50.550 --> 01:12:54.870 james robb: yeah Well, yes, Peter i'm you. 782 01:12:58.830 --> 01:12:59.490 Peter Ruiz: Yes. 783 01:12:59.790 --> 01:13:01.470 Robin Rudisill: Robin yes. 784 01:13:03.210 --> 01:13:03.630 james robb: Andrew. 785 01:13:04.260 --> 01:13:05.820 james robb: Yes, mark Rocco. 786 01:13:06.510 --> 01:13:08.430 james robb: Yes, I vote yes. 787 01:13:10.230 --> 01:13:16.500 james robb: Okay unanimous all right, just a little recap Andrew you send me some stuff about. 788 01:13:18.510 --> 01:13:21.990 james robb: The sewers and all that i'm going to reach out to the. 789 01:13:23.490 --> 01:13:26.340 james robb: The la dwp on some of those. 790 01:13:27.540 --> 01:13:32.880 james robb: The rose drain as well, those not or is that included in our our emotions Brian. 791 01:13:34.380 --> 01:13:35.940 james robb: Sorry, what was the water and power. 792 01:13:37.350 --> 01:13:38.190 Brian Averill: What about it. 793 01:13:38.880 --> 01:13:43.830 james robb: or they included on our emotions for the sewers the sewer drains and all that. 794 01:13:45.600 --> 01:13:45.780 Brian Averill: The. 795 01:13:46.110 --> 01:13:46.770 Brian Averill: game for the. 796 01:13:46.800 --> 01:13:52.320 Brian Averill: sewer drains where the street services la sanitation and on and. 797 01:13:53.520 --> 01:13:56.910 james robb: Do you think we should put la dwp on there are no. 798 01:13:57.150 --> 01:14:03.720 Brian Averill: Sure, more the merrier okay Robin do you know if dwp would be involved with the drainage system. 799 01:14:03.810 --> 01:14:08.070 Robin Rudisill: Or, I thought, sanitation, was a part of them, maybe i'm wrong. 800 01:14:09.780 --> 01:14:10.200 james robb: Right. 801 01:14:10.920 --> 01:14:18.690 Robin Rudisill: I think we're building for sanitation and our dwp bills, but it doesn't hurt to get a contract from the deputy and let them know. 802 01:14:21.720 --> 01:14:22.770 james robb: What I did go ahead. 803 01:14:23.220 --> 01:14:24.390 Nick Antonicello: A little bit too common. 804 01:14:25.830 --> 01:14:27.750 Nick Antonicello: Law lot of constructive motion tonight. 805 01:14:28.980 --> 01:14:38.430 Nick Antonicello: Are we tracking any response that we're getting from the city agencies, and if we are, we should really start with the motions that will pass tonight. 806 01:14:39.480 --> 01:14:55.680 Nick Antonicello: The second thing I wanted to bring up, I was on that East Venice neighborhood association call I guess it was last week, whatever and a lot of people they're upset with the scooter situation and maybe I can I can bring a motion next week, but Washington boulevard the best. 807 01:14:56.370 --> 01:15:16.860 Nick Antonicello: I mean I got is I can have over 150 scooters on Sunday night and the guy who works for bonds office in total denial, he thinks that you know he's got this under control and I sent him the pictures and he didn't respond and taking more, but the point is that. 808 01:15:18.120 --> 01:15:24.600 Nick Antonicello: The security situation in my opinion, is Ben was two years ago, and we really need to stay on top of that. 809 01:15:25.620 --> 01:15:30.180 james robb: They can do you know if they record the East Venice neighborhood Council meetings. 810 01:15:30.570 --> 01:15:41.850 Nick Antonicello: I think they do I mean he's a nice guy and he's trying to give this presentation, but you just painting a flowery picture doesn't exist in my opinion. 811 01:15:42.720 --> 01:15:49.920 james robb: Okay Well, no, because i'm going to recap our meeting from last month, where the city talked about the the. 812 01:15:50.490 --> 01:15:58.710 james robb: Unregulated ones, and all that so i'm gonna i'm going to recap what they said about the you know the guys running the ones on the. 813 01:15:59.220 --> 01:16:13.590 james robb: boardwalk and those guys as well with the hundred and 50 that they're each allowed as you heard him say so let's go i'll work on recapping that and i've tried to recap motions that I did for the last three years. 814 01:16:15.150 --> 01:16:18.900 james robb: Not a lot of if I went further than theirs, then the dnc but. 815 01:16:20.040 --> 01:16:21.090 james robb: i'll keep checking. 816 01:16:22.290 --> 01:16:23.430 james robb: All right, no well go ahead. 817 01:16:24.180 --> 01:16:27.930 Noel Johnston: I did two things one I would love to see. 818 01:16:29.400 --> 01:16:36.750 Noel Johnston: You are born comments put on the agenda at the end of the agenda there's there's no place on the agenda for. 819 01:16:38.190 --> 01:16:39.450 Noel Johnston: You know just. 820 01:16:40.710 --> 01:16:50.730 Noel Johnston: board comment which we're doing now, but there's no place on the agenda for today i'd love to see that on there, and the other thing that I want to mention is something referred to earlier, the. 821 01:16:51.120 --> 01:17:01.500 Noel Johnston: speedway or dip water pipeline project, I have been trying to get an updated schedule from Deborah Hong who is supposed to be the. 822 01:17:03.030 --> 01:17:15.060 Noel Johnston: Community affairs contact on this project, I know that it starts at the it's being done, and I think four stages, and I know that that. 823 01:17:16.500 --> 01:17:27.810 Noel Johnston: The North end of the boardwalk up by me up by the Santa Monica border is is stage two, which is supposed to start early February I can't get an. 824 01:17:28.920 --> 01:17:42.270 Noel Johnston: update on it and i'm wondering if any any one of you know if the project is on schedule and what's happening our our area is all marked up on speedway it means we won't be able to go in and out of our garages. 825 01:17:43.020 --> 01:17:54.960 Noel Johnston: During that period of time, from nine to five during the day, and I imagine that the businesses on speedway will be. 826 01:17:56.070 --> 01:17:59.610 Noel Johnston: Similarly, affected does anybody know anything further about this. 827 01:18:00.510 --> 01:18:01.830 james robb: would be the only one, probably. 828 01:18:02.970 --> 01:18:08.550 Brian Averill: There is a plan somewhere that's laid out with timelines and maps and everything but. 829 01:18:09.570 --> 01:18:16.290 Brian Averill: Having gone through it here on paloma it's it's not so fun, so the better prepared, you can be. 830 01:18:17.940 --> 01:18:27.900 Brian Averill: Delivery wise deliveries are going to be a disaster to, so I would, I think CD 11 has it somewhere, I know it was a God that might have been street services. 831 01:18:29.100 --> 01:18:30.030 Brian Averill: I can help you track it, though. 832 01:18:31.050 --> 01:18:41.700 Noel Johnston: Straight services, and they have our if you go to La dwp department of water and power here's your water and ally, they have a schedule on it, but it's not up today. 833 01:18:43.200 --> 01:18:55.350 Noel Johnston: So i'm just i'm thinking, this is something that we would do the Community a favor by updating if we can on a regular basis, because I think it's really going to throw the businesses. 834 01:18:57.690 --> 01:19:01.800 Brian Averill: I mean we could we could invite them to a meeting and have them explain. 835 01:19:02.280 --> 01:19:06.150 Noel Johnston: I think a great idea to invite them to our next meeting. 836 01:19:06.600 --> 01:19:09.240 Brian Averill: Well sure, Mr rob. 837 01:19:11.880 --> 01:19:21.900 james robb: Thank, I would like to thank everybody for sending their emotions, I know, Peter and well Andrew and and Brian all submitted stuff. 838 01:19:24.330 --> 01:19:38.700 james robb: I didn't get to all of them or Brian and I didn't get to all of them, so well we'll work on trying to address some of the other ones hey guys but it's 803 in our meetings done we did it in an hour and three minutes. 839 01:19:38.820 --> 01:19:48.600 Brian Averill: hey just just to follow up before you wind it up Nick brought up a good point, in that we do all of these meetings, the the committee meetings, we can see meetings. 840 01:19:49.050 --> 01:19:58.560 Brian Averill: And there never seems to be any follow up and sometimes it's like screaming into the void so i'm not sure how we could improve that I think it's it's got to come from the dnc above us. 841 01:19:59.100 --> 01:19:59.670 james robb: But which. 842 01:20:00.120 --> 01:20:06.990 Brian Averill: We argue over these motions and send them to the dnc and they pass them there's there doesn't seem to be any follow so well. 843 01:20:07.020 --> 01:20:11.790 james robb: vicki vicki has her hand up so maybe vicki would like to comment. 844 01:20:12.300 --> 01:20:20.670 Vicki Halliday: And would i'm actually one of the things that's being worked on and is almost ready is a tracking system for every motion. 845 01:20:21.420 --> 01:20:38.940 Vicki Halliday: that's passed by the wii and see that will include who it was sent to what responses have been received, what actions have been made on and that's a new feature that Jimmy or as put together and work with web corner on So hopefully that will be in effect soon. 846 01:20:39.330 --> 01:20:39.930 Brian Averill: that's great. 847 01:20:41.370 --> 01:20:41.910 Andrew Mika: awesome. 848 01:20:42.990 --> 01:20:46.050 james robb: I lost visual of everybody to think no well had her hand up. 849 01:20:47.190 --> 01:20:53.760 Noel Johnston: I took my hand down because vicki really and said what I what I had heard was happening. 850 01:20:54.510 --> 01:21:03.210 james robb: All right, well again thanks Andrew and everybody else on the team for helping sense submit emails and we got out at eight o'clock. 851 01:21:03.510 --> 01:21:04.590 Andrew Mika: So, Jim. 852 01:21:05.910 --> 01:21:07.830 james robb: Fantastic meeting is now adjourned. 853 01:21:09.570 --> 01:21:10.350 Brian Averill: Nice work everybody. 854 01:21:17.220 --> 01:21:18.690 Peter Ruiz: i'm gonna stay here till the end.