WEBVTT 1 00:02:07.980 --> 00:02:11.670 james murez: we're just waiting for the other members of the committee to show up. 2 00:02:13.530 --> 00:02:16.080 james murez: There been some last minute. 3 00:02:18.690 --> 00:02:27.270 james murez: People that couldn't couldn't people on the committee that couldn't make it tonight for special various circumstances that came up, so the meeting may have to be canceled we're not short. 4 00:02:28.800 --> 00:02:32.160 james murez: Time will tell, have a few more minutes we'll give it 10 minutes. 5 00:03:05.820 --> 00:03:07.560 james murez: Robert i'm trying to promote you. 6 00:03:11.430 --> 00:03:12.120 james murez: There it goes. 7 00:03:15.510 --> 00:03:16.200 james murez: Welcome 8 00:03:25.590 --> 00:03:26.040 robertthibodeau: Hello. 9 00:03:26.490 --> 00:03:27.480 james murez: yep you're here. 10 00:03:28.950 --> 00:03:29.790 robertthibodeau: here. 11 00:03:32.010 --> 00:03:33.810 robertthibodeau: So I wonder if we're gonna get a quorum tonight. 12 00:03:34.350 --> 00:03:34.680 yep. 13 00:03:36.930 --> 00:03:38.670 robertthibodeau: Yes, we are yes we're wondering. 14 00:03:38.880 --> 00:03:39.810 james murez: yep we're wondering. 15 00:03:41.040 --> 00:03:41.670 robertthibodeau: yeah I mean. 16 00:03:42.330 --> 00:03:44.820 james murez: My my my presence doesn't count. 17 00:03:45.240 --> 00:03:58.650 robertthibodeau: No i'm aware that so it's got to be Nick and allison neither who phone numbers, I have, and since I only got cancellations from everybody today, I did not know I didn't have time to advance to double check. 18 00:03:59.310 --> 00:04:01.170 james murez: Let me see if I can reach out to them. 19 00:05:14.850 --> 00:05:17.700 james murez: A robber why don't we give them like 10 minutes and see what happens. 20 00:05:18.480 --> 00:05:18.900 Okay. 21 00:05:20.580 --> 00:05:23.520 james murez: I just texted both with noisy somebody else's arrived. 22 00:05:33.900 --> 00:05:36.030 james murez: Oh allison's having a hard time. 23 00:05:37.470 --> 00:05:38.280 robertthibodeau: Connecting. 24 00:05:38.370 --> 00:05:41.220 james murez: Well, she says the link she had is expired. 25 00:05:44.310 --> 00:05:48.330 robertthibodeau: I hit the link from the I hit the link from the. 26 00:05:50.520 --> 00:05:59.010 robertthibodeau: Calendar page of the web and it came up right away so i'm not sure i've had that problem before I had that problem on Jim rob's meeting. 27 00:06:00.090 --> 00:06:05.160 robertthibodeau: This weekend and I had to try like 20 times, for I got on tell her to try the calendar. 28 00:06:06.600 --> 00:06:09.090 robertthibodeau: and pull the agenda from the calendar click on that. 29 00:06:47.610 --> 00:06:48.390 james murez: Promoting him. 30 00:06:50.130 --> 00:06:51.090 james murez: Co host, by the way. 31 00:06:55.980 --> 00:06:58.410 robertthibodeau: I can see your screen, I can screen share the agenda. 32 00:06:58.410 --> 00:07:02.790 james murez: anytime there he goes um oh I forgot that part just a SEC. 33 00:07:05.010 --> 00:07:08.100 robertthibodeau: That actually seems to be allowing me to his co host. 34 00:07:08.310 --> 00:07:08.940 james murez: There you go. 35 00:07:09.150 --> 00:07:09.960 robertthibodeau: My buttons doing. 36 00:07:13.440 --> 00:07:14.040 james murez: hello, Nick. 37 00:07:19.830 --> 00:07:27.390 james murez: looks like the day of the dead hey your pictures getting a lot killed clear on your camera, but you know it's way off to your left there it is. 38 00:07:29.190 --> 00:07:31.860 james murez: Well, we can't hear you you're you're muted on Mike. 39 00:07:36.090 --> 00:07:39.840 james murez: Now you're not known now you are now you're not say something. 40 00:07:40.260 --> 00:07:42.120 james murez: Hello yeah we can hear that. 41 00:07:42.390 --> 00:07:43.770 Nick Antonicello: Okay sounds better. 42 00:07:44.190 --> 00:07:46.620 james murez: yeah your pictures much clearer than it used to be. 43 00:07:47.010 --> 00:07:47.400 yeah. 44 00:07:49.290 --> 00:07:50.310 Nick Antonicello: I got a new camera. 45 00:07:50.790 --> 00:07:54.150 james murez: No uh huh now we got to do is get you a new microphone. 46 00:07:55.170 --> 00:07:55.830 Nick Antonicello: Can you hear me. 47 00:07:56.100 --> 00:07:59.760 james murez: yeah we can hear you but it's always it's always seems sort of muffled and distant. 48 00:08:01.590 --> 00:08:02.250 Nick Antonicello: about now. 49 00:08:02.850 --> 00:08:07.950 james murez: You know the microphone volume usually doesn't change is that a windows machine. 50 00:08:08.730 --> 00:08:09.720 Nick Antonicello: yeah this is window. 51 00:08:10.170 --> 00:08:14.970 james murez: You know if you go into oh there's allison hold on, let me promote her and you guys can start your meeting. 52 00:08:16.050 --> 00:08:16.590 james murez: um. 53 00:08:18.540 --> 00:08:35.070 james murez: If you go into the volume settings you might be able to adjust the microphone up a little bit, but chances are chances are not not my by much okay now, here comes allison alright, so you have a quorum Robert you can start anytime you want, do you want me to help. 54 00:08:36.540 --> 00:08:39.390 james murez: run the meeting or you want me to just get out of the way and let you do your thing. 55 00:08:39.750 --> 00:08:43.830 robertthibodeau: I would love it if you would help because you know honestly it's going to be hard for me to. 56 00:08:45.180 --> 00:08:47.580 robertthibodeau: To bring up docs and take notes, at the same time. 57 00:08:47.790 --> 00:08:49.830 james murez: Okay, so why don't why don't. 58 00:08:50.400 --> 00:08:53.940 robertthibodeau: Why don't you try, but I can work the speaker list. 59 00:08:54.450 --> 00:08:55.470 james murez: And and. 60 00:08:56.640 --> 00:08:59.790 james murez: You know I guess I don't think you need to time speakers, do you. 61 00:09:01.890 --> 00:09:03.960 robertthibodeau: know not worried about time we never time anybody. 62 00:09:04.050 --> 00:09:05.610 Nick Antonicello: We have any attendee. 63 00:09:06.090 --> 00:09:09.960 james murez: yeah there's five people in the in the audience. 64 00:09:10.950 --> 00:09:11.400 Nick Antonicello: So. 65 00:09:12.030 --> 00:09:26.160 robertthibodeau: i'm gonna i'm gonna call this yeah hey Nick hey allison i'm going to call this meeting to order and the time is 706 so i'm going to manually write this down 706 order. 66 00:09:29.280 --> 00:09:31.920 robertthibodeau: And i'm calling roll if we do that. 67 00:09:34.140 --> 00:09:39.540 robertthibodeau: john deere it will not make this list clay will not make this. 68 00:09:41.520 --> 00:09:42.300 robertthibodeau: This arena. 69 00:09:42.360 --> 00:09:43.920 robertthibodeau: will not make this Nick. 70 00:09:46.050 --> 00:09:48.090 robertthibodeau: Next year allison. 71 00:09:48.540 --> 00:09:52.680 robertthibodeau: Here Okay, so we do have a core and three of six. 72 00:09:54.510 --> 00:09:55.440 robertthibodeau: and 73 00:09:57.840 --> 00:10:00.540 robertthibodeau: we're Okay, so this is. 74 00:10:05.100 --> 00:10:07.290 robertthibodeau: um can you guys see my screen. 75 00:10:07.650 --> 00:10:11.670 robertthibodeau: No, no alright well we'll do it the other way, then. 76 00:10:13.980 --> 00:10:16.140 robertthibodeau: old school now, you can see my screen there right. 77 00:10:16.350 --> 00:10:16.740 nope. 78 00:10:20.610 --> 00:10:22.350 robertthibodeau: Oh that's why because it didn't hit share. 79 00:10:23.550 --> 00:10:24.360 james murez: makes a difference. 80 00:10:25.110 --> 00:10:25.770 james murez: There you guys. 81 00:10:25.890 --> 00:10:29.850 robertthibodeau: Now, can you see it can you say the and you're seeing the agenda yep. 82 00:10:31.530 --> 00:10:37.980 robertthibodeau: Okay i'm going to try and keep this relatively concise, although we do have a fair amount of stuff here. 83 00:10:40.260 --> 00:10:42.750 Nick Antonicello: motion to approve the Minutes of the last meet. 84 00:10:43.530 --> 00:10:47.130 robertthibodeau: motion to approve the Minutes of last meeting do we have a second. 85 00:10:49.530 --> 00:10:50.970 robertthibodeau: it's just got to be YouTube right. 86 00:10:52.470 --> 00:10:53.190 alyson_wilson: Like i'm sorry. 87 00:10:56.130 --> 00:10:59.310 robertthibodeau: All right, do we take a boat on that Jim. 88 00:10:59.430 --> 00:11:01.200 james murez: yeah yeah go ahead. 89 00:11:01.740 --> 00:11:02.460 james murez: You want to. 90 00:11:02.610 --> 00:11:04.260 james murez: Do you want me to keep track of the boat. 91 00:11:04.830 --> 00:11:07.110 robertthibodeau: I got a pen i'm just gonna do it old school. 92 00:11:07.350 --> 00:11:11.580 robertthibodeau: Okay yeah unless you want to do you want to. 93 00:11:11.790 --> 00:11:21.780 james murez: Know it's completely up to you, I mean I don't mind doing it for you, if it helps you i'm here and i'm just going to hang out, so I have a paper, I have a paper and a pen. 94 00:11:22.290 --> 00:11:25.290 Nick Antonicello: Because there's only three of us, you can just call it boy. 95 00:11:26.280 --> 00:11:28.740 robertthibodeau: yeah let's just do a quick voice so. 96 00:11:29.220 --> 00:11:30.150 james murez: All i'm going to be wrong. 97 00:11:30.180 --> 00:11:33.330 robertthibodeau: proving proving the the Minutes. 98 00:11:33.690 --> 00:11:35.160 alyson_wilson: hi I. 99 00:11:35.700 --> 00:11:38.310 robertthibodeau: I have three zero. 100 00:11:38.580 --> 00:11:42.420 james murez: So that Nick Nick made the motion and allison seconded. 101 00:11:43.980 --> 00:11:45.360 james murez: And it was 300. 102 00:11:45.660 --> 00:11:46.290 Nick Antonicello: Correct okay. 103 00:11:48.360 --> 00:11:49.110 robertthibodeau: got that. 104 00:11:52.770 --> 00:11:57.120 robertthibodeau: Review commented on me minutes from prior meeting oh that's what we just did. 105 00:11:57.300 --> 00:11:57.780 Nick Antonicello: Right yes. 106 00:11:58.170 --> 00:11:58.680 Okay. 107 00:12:00.030 --> 00:12:07.530 robertthibodeau: Public comment non agenda items related to parking transportation committee only we have one possible okay. 108 00:12:07.560 --> 00:12:11.250 james murez: We have two speakers, you have two speakers they're teaming up on you tonight, Robert. 109 00:12:12.270 --> 00:12:13.200 james murez: vicki go ahead. 110 00:12:15.150 --> 00:12:26.880 Vicki Halliday: Thanks um I had spoken with Robert briefly the other day, something I want you guys to put your thinking cap on about and Jim i'm glad you're here it's about this led to a lot that rosen main. 111 00:12:27.840 --> 00:12:37.830 Vicki Halliday: Job the Commissioners and that they agreed that they would close it at night, like if they said, like we do all of our other la. 112 00:12:39.600 --> 00:12:40.860 Vicki Halliday: which I don't believe is. 113 00:12:40.860 --> 00:12:41.340 Nick Antonicello: True. 114 00:12:41.760 --> 00:12:43.860 Vicki Halliday: That there's lots are actually closed. 115 00:12:45.030 --> 00:12:47.490 Vicki Halliday: purpose of closing this one, here we. 116 00:12:49.170 --> 00:12:49.800 Vicki Halliday: Have. 117 00:12:51.000 --> 00:12:54.000 Vicki Halliday: Get rid of something inside their. 118 00:12:54.360 --> 00:13:03.870 Vicki Halliday: Comprehensive cleanup to help but they're not all gone and today there was a little bit of a scare I rode my bike and a guy had a like an automatic rifle doing. 119 00:13:03.870 --> 00:13:14.340 Vicki Halliday: target across the parking lot and the police did come, and it was not a real gun, but it was a pellet gun um. 120 00:13:15.450 --> 00:13:25.710 Vicki Halliday: But we need we need it's really gotten dangerous there and want you guys to put your thinking cap on about because I don't know other parking lots that well and how they're handled that night. 121 00:13:26.640 --> 00:13:39.780 Vicki Halliday: We had asked potentially for this one to be closed for a few months, just finished up in closed on their led it is afraid to do that, because of the coastal Commission their friends don't get in trouble. 122 00:13:40.890 --> 00:13:52.200 Vicki Halliday: So chances are nothing's going to happen, they say they'll close it at night but they'll have to put up gates somebody will have to come and close it up, which is probably not gonna happen. 123 00:13:53.730 --> 00:13:59.070 Vicki Halliday: So um I know Jimmy had done a little bit of research into it, so I just hope that. 124 00:14:00.090 --> 00:14:04.980 Vicki Halliday: I can plug that in the parking and transportation, to see if you guys can come up with any solutions. 125 00:14:06.360 --> 00:14:07.560 james murez: Okay, thank you vicki. 126 00:14:07.710 --> 00:14:08.220 Vicki Halliday: Thank you. 127 00:14:08.610 --> 00:14:10.560 james murez: i'm soledad go ahead. 128 00:14:11.490 --> 00:14:26.370 soledad ursua: hi everyone slaughter soon I live on here bridge housing on and on mainstream I have about 40 movies, that are on both sides of the street what i'm hoping you guys could really take on, is to acknowledge the environmental. 129 00:14:27.720 --> 00:14:28.890 soledad ursua: These are, these are. 130 00:14:29.130 --> 00:14:33.690 james murez: for one second so i'm sorry to interrupt you, Robert can you mute there's a lot of background noise. 131 00:14:33.750 --> 00:14:33.960 Nick Antonicello: Coming. 132 00:14:34.200 --> 00:14:34.920 robertthibodeau: From your microphone. 133 00:14:35.550 --> 00:14:36.960 james murez: My bed so again i'm sorry. 134 00:14:37.020 --> 00:14:38.490 robertthibodeau: hold on one SEC you. 135 00:14:40.230 --> 00:14:40.680 soledad ursua: So. 136 00:14:40.710 --> 00:14:41.670 soledad ursua: going to the. 137 00:14:42.570 --> 00:14:51.870 soledad ursua: The environmental degradation that are these are inflicting on this beachside Community you know we have oil and chemicals motorhomes looking into the streets. 138 00:14:52.500 --> 00:14:58.710 soledad ursua: We have people who are dumping their rv sewage and none of our city officials are even acknowledging this problem. 139 00:14:59.100 --> 00:15:08.910 soledad ursua: And I want to remind you guys that unlike our neighboring city of Santa Monica we do not have an urban runoff recycling program so everything in our streets. 140 00:15:09.180 --> 00:15:16.350 soledad ursua: feces needles trash debris oil it ends up in our storm drains which is pumped into the Pacific Ocean. 141 00:15:16.830 --> 00:15:28.200 soledad ursua: And you know many of us have been to the Rose Ave storm drains so we know about business locals we avoid it, but the public doesn't so I really asked you guys to take on the rv issue. 142 00:15:28.590 --> 00:15:41.610 soledad ursua: i'm not sure that it's legal for harvey's to be parked on city streets in La so i'm hoping that something you guys really take on just because the environment is so valuable and you know we represent the Pacific Ocean. 143 00:15:42.210 --> 00:15:46.530 soledad ursua: We host the world and we need to keep the beach clean for everyone, thank you. 144 00:15:47.220 --> 00:15:47.610 james murez: Thank you so. 145 00:15:48.300 --> 00:15:50.040 robertthibodeau: Okay, so so before. 146 00:15:50.100 --> 00:15:51.840 james murez: yeah hang on one second. 147 00:15:51.990 --> 00:15:53.940 robertthibodeau: Wait no no journey. 148 00:15:54.090 --> 00:15:55.260 james murez: there's one more caller. 149 00:15:55.530 --> 00:15:57.690 robertthibodeau: go there is okay, because we do have. 150 00:15:57.780 --> 00:15:59.550 robertthibodeau: I just want to say that we do have. 151 00:16:00.720 --> 00:16:19.950 robertthibodeau: For soledad and vicki both we do have a representative, and this is intended to be informational not not accusatory so we're going to keep this informational but um let's look tanya Alan, I believe, is here and it's going to speak, I might try bumping her. 152 00:16:21.180 --> 00:16:21.930 james murez: Robert let me. 153 00:16:22.020 --> 00:16:24.750 james murez: Let me get let me get through public comment okay. 154 00:16:25.290 --> 00:16:28.710 robertthibodeau: right on, I just wanted to let them know that didn't just get up there. 155 00:16:28.980 --> 00:16:30.210 robertthibodeau: Okay, very good. 156 00:16:30.690 --> 00:16:39.210 james murez: i'm color ending in 173 you need to start nine, I believe, to unmute yourself. 157 00:16:42.300 --> 00:16:42.960 james murez: There you go. 158 00:16:43.020 --> 00:16:44.760 1561****713: hi can you hear me yes. 159 00:16:46.080 --> 00:16:54.510 1561****713: Excellent hi my name through i'm an unhappy and doing you know, and I just wanted to say in response to the previous comment. 160 00:16:55.740 --> 00:17:04.650 1561****713: Right finance people were actually really good for the environment, believe it or not, like we don't use electricity or running water. 161 00:17:05.670 --> 00:17:11.280 1561****713: or fossil fuels, for the most part, I know our users might put gas in their rv. 162 00:17:12.450 --> 00:17:19.650 1561****713: And we have full time recycling jobs and we take bicycles and we walk everywhere. 163 00:17:20.670 --> 00:17:28.410 1561****713: Like people could stand to live a little bit more like us, and a little less like house people and the storm drains. 164 00:17:29.190 --> 00:17:45.900 1561****713: don't go into the hyperion water treatment plant which actually dumped 17 million gallons of house people's raw sewage unfiltered onto the beach, so please consider the hypocrisy of the criticism of unhealthy people inviting me thank you. 165 00:17:46.500 --> 00:17:47.340 james murez: Thank you, thank you. 166 00:17:47.700 --> 00:17:51.630 james murez: So let's close public comment i'll leave that up to you, Robert you're sharing this. 167 00:17:52.620 --> 00:18:02.340 robertthibodeau: Okay, thank you to all the speakers let's let's move on to the regular schedule now your schedule. 168 00:18:08.310 --> 00:18:10.290 james murez: Who was the person that you said was here from. 169 00:18:11.760 --> 00:18:12.390 james murez: The city. 170 00:18:15.990 --> 00:18:17.220 james murez: I can't hear you gotta unmute. 171 00:18:20.190 --> 00:18:22.740 robertthibodeau: My bed tanya howlin of. 172 00:18:24.210 --> 00:18:27.780 robertthibodeau: parking enforcement was going to be here to explain. 173 00:18:28.860 --> 00:18:30.270 robertthibodeau: what's going on with. 174 00:18:32.070 --> 00:18:37.770 james murez: So let me, let me just real quick there's two people on here one looks like their name starts with an lt. 175 00:18:38.040 --> 00:18:49.080 james murez: which might be a lieutenant and the other one looks like it's an sgt if either of you, people are city employees or or or public service people could you raise your hand. 176 00:18:53.970 --> 00:18:57.240 james murez: Okay, do we want to promote them Robert so you can. 177 00:18:59.400 --> 00:19:03.210 james murez: respect their their time tonight looks like they both are. 178 00:19:07.980 --> 00:19:08.970 james murez: That unmute Robert. 179 00:19:11.940 --> 00:19:18.570 robertthibodeau: Okay, so I see two hands raised more, we are going to. 180 00:19:19.830 --> 00:19:22.710 robertthibodeau: rename Is that how we how we promote him. 181 00:19:23.820 --> 00:19:26.400 james murez: yeah i'll go ahead and promote them to panelists. 182 00:19:26.820 --> 00:19:28.110 robertthibodeau: Okay, very good. 183 00:19:29.880 --> 00:19:34.380 james murez: And we can always demote them later yes. 184 00:19:35.280 --> 00:19:36.240 robertthibodeau: sounds good. 185 00:19:38.190 --> 00:19:38.910 robertthibodeau: So. 186 00:19:40.950 --> 00:19:44.760 robertthibodeau: We have 713 appears to be maybe first. 187 00:19:49.170 --> 00:19:50.400 james murez: No, I think it's. 188 00:19:51.870 --> 00:20:00.210 james murez: sergeant James Johnson was promoted and lieutenants Cyril to retail. 189 00:20:01.320 --> 00:20:02.670 james murez: they're both now panelists. 190 00:20:03.870 --> 00:20:04.290 robertthibodeau: Okay. 191 00:20:06.570 --> 00:20:07.350 robertthibodeau: So it's. 192 00:20:07.440 --> 00:20:17.280 james murez: So you'd need to rearrange your agenda to to take the item out of order, where they were going to be responding to. 193 00:20:19.170 --> 00:20:21.090 james murez: Whatever item, it was on the agenda. 194 00:20:22.170 --> 00:20:33.990 robertthibodeau: yeah we had item seven was parking enforcement people we're going to speak as an informational thing on what's sort of what's changed why it's changed, and you know. 195 00:20:36.360 --> 00:20:41.910 robertthibodeau: What the prognosis is for the future, whether the laws are going to come back or not come back and. 196 00:20:42.930 --> 00:20:45.720 robertthibodeau: All that because it's an item on the agenda. 197 00:20:45.810 --> 00:20:54.810 james murez: That theoretically, you may end up taking a position on you, the the correct way to do this would be to. 198 00:20:56.970 --> 00:21:09.030 james murez: Have the motion made by somebody and then seconded and then have a presentation made wraps by the officers to answer the question at hand, and then a lot public comment on the item. 199 00:21:10.380 --> 00:21:12.600 james murez: Discussions before we take a vote of. 200 00:21:14.280 --> 00:21:17.760 robertthibodeau: Okay, we do actually have a possible motion that john wrote. 201 00:21:19.230 --> 00:21:22.350 robertthibodeau: On the parking enforcement, should we read that motion. 202 00:21:22.380 --> 00:21:27.480 james murez: yeah but can you reduce your screen size, a little bit everything's getting cut off on the right hand side. 203 00:21:29.370 --> 00:21:29.670 james murez: Just. 204 00:21:31.860 --> 00:21:35.520 james murez: hit the minus key or something and Okay, there you go little bit more. 205 00:21:37.470 --> 00:21:38.760 james murez: One more clipping you got it. 206 00:21:42.990 --> 00:21:43.410 james murez: perfect. 207 00:21:43.920 --> 00:21:44.220 Okay. 208 00:21:48.030 --> 00:21:52.890 robertthibodeau: So um Does anyone want to make the motion should I make the motion here. 209 00:21:53.160 --> 00:21:56.160 james murez: Nick why don't you read the motion you're good at these readings of my. 210 00:21:56.610 --> 00:21:57.480 Nick Antonicello: number seven. 211 00:21:57.810 --> 00:21:58.350 Yes. 212 00:21:59.580 --> 00:22:10.500 Nick Antonicello: Whereas business community has seen substantial was abusive sidewalks and roadways and increases in crime denunciation of parking enforcement, whereas the covert 19 emergency. 213 00:22:11.040 --> 00:22:26.580 Nick Antonicello: Is now the cured and procedures are in place to control it within the greater Los Angeles area, whereas parking enforcement should be restored, therefore, be resolved that the dnc request than the existing corking street stamping inside we're clearing the boys being forced into that. 214 00:22:27.780 --> 00:22:28.500 Nick Antonicello: i'll make the motion. 215 00:22:29.400 --> 00:22:31.170 james murez: And is allison still here. 216 00:22:34.620 --> 00:22:36.240 james murez: now listen, we need a second. 217 00:22:36.960 --> 00:22:38.580 alyson_wilson: Time meeting, yes, second. 218 00:22:40.860 --> 00:22:46.710 james murez: Okay, so now that the the motion is on the floor and made and seconded. 219 00:22:48.360 --> 00:22:54.180 james murez: Perhaps you could have your guest speakers unmute themselves and address what the issues are. 220 00:23:00.210 --> 00:23:01.140 robertthibodeau: So. 221 00:23:01.170 --> 00:23:08.280 james murez: they're both unmuted I don't know who wants to speak first, is it searching James Johnson or lieutenant. 222 00:23:09.600 --> 00:23:10.290 Lt Serrato: Toronto. 223 00:23:10.440 --> 00:23:12.390 james murez: Toronto go ahead, please. 224 00:23:13.710 --> 00:23:18.900 Lt Serrato: So some of your concerns are having to do with vehicles across the sidewalk is that what you're. 225 00:23:20.700 --> 00:23:21.600 robertthibodeau: No, I. 226 00:23:22.260 --> 00:23:24.660 robertthibodeau: I think the concerns are that. 227 00:23:26.010 --> 00:23:41.460 robertthibodeau: The cessation of the stopping of enforcement of the rules where you can just keep your car or rv in a singular spot for months, at a time and. 228 00:23:42.480 --> 00:23:46.800 robertthibodeau: That seems to be creating unsafe conditions in the Community and. 229 00:23:48.450 --> 00:23:56.490 robertthibodeau: I think previously there had been laws regarding the time you were allowed to keep a vehicle in one place without moving it. 230 00:23:57.330 --> 00:23:57.930 Lt Serrato: Correct. 231 00:23:58.020 --> 00:24:00.180 Lt Serrato: The 72 hour laws what you're referring to. 232 00:24:00.480 --> 00:24:02.310 Lt Serrato: Absolutely, so that. 233 00:24:02.400 --> 00:24:14.670 Lt Serrato: Is it's still being enforced on vehicles parked within the city, but if there's evidence of a dwelling the mayor has a hold on any impounding of vehicles that show evidence of dwelling. 234 00:24:15.150 --> 00:24:19.980 Lt Serrato: So it goes beyond parking enforcement right now that's a my mayor's. 235 00:24:21.330 --> 00:24:23.550 Lt Serrato: restriction that will hold us back from that. 236 00:24:24.900 --> 00:24:28.890 robertthibodeau: And we do well, I guess, this is it yeah good. 237 00:24:29.550 --> 00:24:31.050 Lt Serrato: We can cite the vehicles. 238 00:24:32.130 --> 00:24:33.690 Lt Serrato: That we cannot impound them. 239 00:24:35.100 --> 00:24:50.820 robertthibodeau: And do we know if there's any sort of mechanism, because the understanding, I have, which is not very good, but I am in charge of the partner transportation Committee was it, this was started as part of the coven. 240 00:24:52.590 --> 00:25:06.750 robertthibodeau: When coven started this was passed in a group with other things, and now that we see coven and things reopening, I guess, a lot of us were anticipating that our streets would be cleaned up again and. 241 00:25:07.800 --> 00:25:15.690 robertthibodeau: So I guess i'm wondering if there's been any talk within the city, if you know about re instituting the previous policies. 242 00:25:16.710 --> 00:25:25.740 Lt Serrato: I know our chief wants to get back into impounding, but we have to wait for direction from the mayor. 243 00:25:26.160 --> 00:25:26.550 robertthibodeau: mm hmm. 244 00:25:26.610 --> 00:25:31.770 Lt Serrato: So, as far as I know I don't actually don't know what the mayor's doing right now. 245 00:25:32.280 --> 00:25:34.290 Lt Serrato: I know our chief is for it, but that. 246 00:25:34.560 --> 00:25:36.540 Lt Serrato: Like I said it that's beyond our department. 247 00:25:36.810 --> 00:25:38.670 Lt Serrato: Right it's coming from the mayor's office. 248 00:25:44.850 --> 00:25:47.700 robertthibodeau: um that's useful information, so we should. 249 00:25:48.270 --> 00:25:57.090 robertthibodeau: Maybe talk to somebody from the mayor's office regarding the timing of this stuff it's that's kind of what i'm hearing from you and we you know we really appreciate what you guys do, by the way this is. 250 00:25:57.360 --> 00:26:11.340 robertthibodeau: This is, I didn't even know what was going on until until I started making some emails and stuff I just you know, and I think we had all heard that they were going to start cleaning, you know cleaning up again but uh I. 251 00:26:11.580 --> 00:26:12.960 robertthibodeau: You know it doesn't seem like. 252 00:26:15.090 --> 00:26:16.680 Lt Serrato: Also, with the street cleaning. 253 00:26:16.950 --> 00:26:21.390 Lt Serrato: The street cleaning now is being enforced every other week. 254 00:26:21.690 --> 00:26:26.460 Lt Serrato: Right, before long, you had weekly street cleaning cut down to every other week. 255 00:26:27.000 --> 00:26:27.750 robertthibodeau: Unless you get in our. 256 00:26:27.810 --> 00:26:28.290 Lt Serrato: way, and then the. 257 00:26:28.500 --> 00:26:31.080 robertthibodeau: driver at the drive around you if you get an rv right. 258 00:26:31.080 --> 00:26:31.350 Right. 259 00:26:32.850 --> 00:26:37.560 Lt Serrato: Exactly and they decided, but we just can't tell one yeah. 260 00:26:37.620 --> 00:26:39.600 robertthibodeau: got it yeah no I mean. 261 00:26:40.950 --> 00:26:42.510 james murez: Can I ask a silly question. 262 00:26:43.290 --> 00:26:45.690 james murez: Sure, maybe it's not so silly um. 263 00:26:47.310 --> 00:26:53.580 james murez: Is anybody keeping track of how many citations are out on weekly basis. 264 00:26:55.110 --> 00:26:55.710 james murez: You moved. 265 00:26:57.420 --> 00:27:05.190 Lt Serrato: While they're there cookie we have a database previously, I was in charge of the banning units in the valley. 266 00:27:05.700 --> 00:27:18.720 Lt Serrato: And when we get the complaint for the 72 hour violation our officers were going out responding and marketing before or if it was unsafe they're closing the complaint as a dwelling so we do have a running log. 267 00:27:19.320 --> 00:27:31.980 Lt Serrato: Of all the complaints i've got closed for dwelling but that doesn't say that there's a log saying Oh, we didn't cite this in the street cleaning because it's a dwelling we that was that was only for the 72 hour by elations. 268 00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:33.480 james murez: Well, so. 269 00:27:33.540 --> 00:27:35.490 Lt Serrato: That is, I believe that city wide. 270 00:27:35.790 --> 00:27:41.430 james murez: In some of the neighborhoods there's their signage about not being overhyped vehicles. 271 00:27:41.460 --> 00:27:43.710 james murez: And there's signage about. 272 00:27:44.820 --> 00:27:57.600 james murez: Not being within a specific area, for instance, around the bridge shelter and their signage about street cleaning and I just wonder if if on any kind of of. 273 00:27:58.650 --> 00:28:11.460 james murez: Frequency I mean I would hate to have to complain every 72 hours that that card still park there, it seems that it seems to me that twice a week if the person started getting two tickets, a week after. 274 00:28:12.180 --> 00:28:23.640 james murez: You know, a month or so and they had you know 10 or 12 tickets on their car just because the Co bid thing gets lifted doesn't mean the tickets are necessarily going to go away and it might. 275 00:28:23.700 --> 00:28:24.270 Lt Serrato: And they don't. 276 00:28:24.750 --> 00:28:34.380 james murez: yeah it might start to show some level of integrity on the part of parking enforcement to actually. 277 00:28:35.070 --> 00:28:48.360 james murez: take the initiative to just regularly go, I mean you know marking their tires I don't believe is going to do any good, because they're going to go out there and wipe it off so unless you photograph it and. 278 00:28:48.960 --> 00:28:50.400 Lt Serrato: That is part of the process. 279 00:28:50.430 --> 00:29:05.310 james murez: yeah so and so unless there's some way of of really documenting it, and I mean there's some cars that there's a black camper in front of an elementary school on Main Street in Venice it's been there, a year. 280 00:29:06.120 --> 00:29:13.350 james murez: And I I know for a fact lapd has tried to to deal with that on multiple occasions and and. 281 00:29:14.460 --> 00:29:17.430 james murez: They don't give them tickets, because he lives in it. 282 00:29:19.230 --> 00:29:34.620 james murez: And to me that's like Why not give them tickets it, you know it's that vehicle could be ticketed every day is in the school zone and it's parked there it's it's posted no parking there from from seven o'clock in the morning until four o'clock in the afternoon. 283 00:29:35.880 --> 00:29:38.220 robertthibodeau: We have can we let Nick speak to us. 284 00:29:39.300 --> 00:29:40.650 james murez: i'm just curious if the. 285 00:29:40.950 --> 00:29:46.140 james murez: way that that can be followed up on, and it Robert at some point we want to get to public comment. 286 00:29:46.530 --> 00:29:53.550 Nick Antonicello: yeah the point I wanted to make was in particular roles in terms of the RD. 287 00:29:55.380 --> 00:30:07.170 Nick Antonicello: The lapd probably knows you have your be that burned to the ground, about two weeks ago and that's a stickler vehicle, not only was a mobile and having tires on the on the vehicle. 288 00:30:07.890 --> 00:30:25.770 Nick Antonicello: And now that space, which is red line has been replaced with two additional arby's, I guess, my question is, what about on visa so that are in mobile don't have their own cinder blocks, they can't move at all you're obviously in qantas. 289 00:30:27.660 --> 00:30:32.850 Nick Antonicello: Why can anything, be done about that I don't understand why that that's a good. 290 00:30:34.680 --> 00:30:44.010 Lt Serrato: Because of that that directive that we got from the mayor that says any vehicle showing a dwelling we cannot impact if it was like in a peak hour zone there's only certain. 291 00:30:44.730 --> 00:30:57.960 Lt Serrato: Specific violations that we could talk for, but even you have to keep in mind if it's a large rv we have the call for a special tow truck that's a heavy duty toe and we go on a waiting list for that. 292 00:30:58.800 --> 00:31:03.330 robertthibodeau: Can we should jim's right, we should do public comment so let's see if there's. 293 00:31:03.570 --> 00:31:18.510 Nick Antonicello: follow up if we go to public comment, the chief of police when he doesn't agree with policy by the mayor tend to keep way in and say you know we don't agree with what you're what you're what you're suggesting, here we have all these replaced. 294 00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:25.260 Nick Antonicello: kind of basically housing, I mean since their own why to why our cities doing what he's doing. 295 00:31:27.270 --> 00:31:32.280 Lt Serrato: I can answer that I don't have an idea of what why he's doing what he's doing. 296 00:31:35.760 --> 00:31:43.050 james murez: Okay caller ending in 173 your hand is up, did you want to speak press star nine if you want to. 297 00:31:45.390 --> 00:31:46.800 james murez: Oh i'm not sure you're even muted. 298 00:31:48.480 --> 00:32:05.910 1561****713: hi Hello hi this is truth, I mean i'm house angeleno and I just wanted to inform you all that in I think 2014 there was a case called never trained or to delay in a way, it was found unconstitutional the La MC that was supposed to ban vehicle dwelling. 299 00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:16.290 1561****713: So it's not illegal to live in your vehicle and I can't believe that there's a committee meeting and strategizing on how to make homeless people more homeless when somebody who's. 300 00:32:16.680 --> 00:32:27.960 1561****713: Our he isn't running gets code or ticket it it doesn't help them like go away, it might help them be less sheltered and if you're in a tent. 301 00:32:28.440 --> 00:32:37.500 1561****713: or on a sidewalk and that's not better for anyone, especially them why don't you guys strategize to help them get repairs, if needed, or to like. 302 00:32:37.980 --> 00:32:44.340 1561****713: No one outside the school there might be a student of the school living in that already know our homeless students. 303 00:32:44.850 --> 00:32:55.620 1561****713: Then there is homeless adults in La and that was proven by UCLA and I was almost student myself, so please consider the needs of the people that you're strategizing to displace Thank you. 304 00:32:56.040 --> 00:32:57.720 james murez: Thank you um. 305 00:32:58.890 --> 00:33:02.040 james murez: was just a solid, as you have your hand up go ahead, please. 306 00:33:03.210 --> 00:33:04.260 soledad ursua: hi can you hear me. 307 00:33:04.440 --> 00:33:12.390 soledad ursua: Yes, Okay, so I want to thank that i'm house neighbor forgiving comment, I do not believe that she is an actual stakeholder Venice beach. 308 00:33:12.840 --> 00:33:21.960 soledad ursua: um you know, one of the things we debated about here on the dnc is just you know who do we represent represent our stakeholders, or do we represent the entire public. 309 00:33:22.770 --> 00:33:31.800 soledad ursua: One thing i've noticed, just as somebody who lives near bridge housing, with about you know 40 different arby's parked on different sides of Main Street. 310 00:33:32.520 --> 00:33:41.190 soledad ursua: we've seen that CDC guidelines has been improperly use that's what all of our elected officials are using to simply throw their hands up. 311 00:33:41.430 --> 00:33:54.240 soledad ursua: And absolve themselves of any responsibility, it seems that you know throughout covert as long as covert goes on our elected officials cannot enforce any of the laws that we have so again, thank you. 312 00:33:55.320 --> 00:34:00.630 james murez: Thank you so bad i'm Erica more you have your hand up You may speak. 313 00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:03.750 james murez: You have to unmute yourself. 314 00:34:03.840 --> 00:34:11.850 Erica Moore: hi hi there you know I apologize, but i'm just want you to know i'm having issues with your link from my phone I don't know why. 315 00:34:12.270 --> 00:34:20.910 Erica Moore: But I missed the beginning of the meeting, because it wouldn't work, and I still I can't pull up the agenda on either so i'm not sure why there was only a link offered. 316 00:34:21.480 --> 00:34:31.920 Erica Moore: On the calendar there should have been one on the on the regular homepage it was really strange i've never had this problem ever before, so, can you please check into that I apologize to have to use this format to tell you that. 317 00:34:32.190 --> 00:34:34.950 Erica Moore: But I just got in so i'm not even sure where you are on the agenda. 318 00:34:35.430 --> 00:34:49.500 james murez: Oh yeah that's really easy we'll we'll check into that I were two things out of order on Item number seven parking enforcement and we have two officers here from La do T and and. 319 00:34:50.940 --> 00:34:56.070 james murez: This is the public comment period about that that motion that it's on the floor. 320 00:34:56.580 --> 00:34:57.480 Erica Moore: Okay, thank you. 321 00:34:58.770 --> 00:35:06.120 james murez: Okay, I don't see any other hands up um so I guess Robert you want to close public comment unmute yourself. 322 00:35:07.680 --> 00:35:12.840 robertthibodeau: we're going to close up public comment, right now, thank you both Ruth and soledad and. 323 00:35:14.190 --> 00:35:18.450 robertthibodeau: Do we have I know we already made a few comments, maybe out of turn their. 324 00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:26.070 robertthibodeau: Questions do we have board comment Nick allison allison do you have anything you want to add to this. 325 00:35:27.390 --> 00:35:28.920 robertthibodeau: I see Jim sanda. 326 00:35:29.640 --> 00:35:46.350 james murez: So I would just say that, based on what the officer said about that they can ticket, but they can't impound it seems to me that we ought to be asking for as much ticketing as possible. 327 00:35:47.100 --> 00:36:03.660 james murez: I did hear the public comment that the woman felt that that would be displacing the homeless, but I would just like to point out that there are safe parking sites that the city has set up throughout the city and and they actually do offer. 328 00:36:04.830 --> 00:36:05.760 james murez: The various. 329 00:36:07.080 --> 00:36:14.700 james murez: Humanitarian fundamental necessities like like restrooms and hot and cold running water and. 330 00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:26.490 james murez: places that arby's can actually connect their sewage disposal, up to and electricity, and all of these things are being offered at the safe safe camping citing safe rv parks. 331 00:36:27.270 --> 00:36:45.480 james murez: And and it's it's surprising to me that that we're not doing more to try and help these people by by motivating them to go there now maybe one of the things we need to do is is make up a map or a list of where the sites are and go around and. 332 00:36:46.680 --> 00:36:48.510 james murez: hand them out at the arby's. 333 00:36:48.870 --> 00:37:08.670 james murez: And then let the police officers or the the parking enforcement officers that also go out and mark the tires Let them also handout where these safe parking campsite are and and maybe that would help motivate them to move off the street. 334 00:37:11.070 --> 00:37:23.760 alyson_wilson: And i'll hop in Jim additional to, that my understanding is that lapd doesn't work in a vacuum that there are a lot of collaboration with services and outreach and. 335 00:37:26.220 --> 00:37:43.500 alyson_wilson: A lot of that information is probably been extended to, for instance event that's been parked in the same place for a year by the school I as we make hypothetical or as we discourage ourselves from making hypothetical assumptions about. 336 00:37:44.940 --> 00:37:56.820 alyson_wilson: The stories of those living in the vans and thank you so much for your comments let's also discourage ourselves from thinking that there's just heavy policing happening, and nothing else, so I think, given the constraints of the party and transportation committee. 337 00:37:57.840 --> 00:38:03.240 alyson_wilson: it's we can encourage this one avenue for. 338 00:38:05.160 --> 00:38:12.360 alyson_wilson: You know, enforcement, knowing that there is a lot else going on, without sort of cracking open the entire conversation of. 339 00:38:13.800 --> 00:38:23.610 alyson_wilson: happening so I mean, I think, as it stands, encouraging parking enforcement is not so outside the bounds of. 340 00:38:25.530 --> 00:38:28.110 alyson_wilson: What makes sense that we can't support it. 341 00:38:34.650 --> 00:38:35.790 james murez: Nick your hands up go ahead. 342 00:38:36.270 --> 00:38:47.310 Nick Antonicello: yeah I just want to say regarding the motion we're not saying, who is be incentive so obviously needs to be sent to Vegas city and CD 11. 343 00:38:51.270 --> 00:38:51.570 james murez: well. 344 00:38:52.140 --> 00:38:54.090 Nick Antonicello: As the chairman to move the question. 345 00:38:54.450 --> 00:38:57.480 james murez: He could also, though, be sent to. 346 00:38:58.620 --> 00:39:05.640 james murez: Whoever the director or the I don't know what they call the person that is in charge of of led ot. 347 00:39:06.840 --> 00:39:08.280 Sgt. James Johnson: parking enforcement and if. 348 00:39:08.280 --> 00:39:17.340 james murez: there's got to be somebody at the top of that ladder as well and, and they would certainly need to be CC I don't know if they have a Commission. 349 00:39:18.420 --> 00:39:23.370 james murez: Do either of you officers know, is there a Commission of led ot for parking enforcement, or is it a board. 350 00:39:27.720 --> 00:39:30.390 Lt Serrato: We have a general manager, we have our unions. 351 00:39:31.500 --> 00:39:33.390 Lt Serrato: We also work with the city council. 352 00:39:35.730 --> 00:39:38.940 james murez: So you don't actually have a board or a Commission I don't think. 353 00:39:40.680 --> 00:39:42.450 Lt Serrato: But not like lapd does. 354 00:39:42.930 --> 00:39:57.510 Nick Antonicello: Okay it's the mayor that's preventing the enforcement of of the traffic guideline, then the mayor's to be the one that we should be emphasizing here in terms of getting this motion. 355 00:39:59.460 --> 00:40:09.120 james murez: But don't you think that that's a longer range goal and and perhaps a shorter range goal is to just see if we can't get them to start ticketing, as frequently as possible. 356 00:40:09.870 --> 00:40:12.090 robertthibodeau: Well, I think I think that's a separate. 357 00:40:12.180 --> 00:40:15.660 robertthibodeau: I mean, we have a motion on the floor and rather than and then. 358 00:40:17.130 --> 00:40:26.340 robertthibodeau: rewriting the motion on the floor, I think we should address the motion on the floor and then ticketing could be a different motion for a different day but. 359 00:40:28.140 --> 00:40:31.110 robertthibodeau: We do have emotion on on the floor and. 360 00:40:32.640 --> 00:40:34.860 robertthibodeau: Nick I cut you off sorry but but but. 361 00:40:35.490 --> 00:40:36.060 Nick Antonicello: that's fine. 362 00:40:37.110 --> 00:40:37.590 Nick Antonicello: The question. 363 00:40:41.670 --> 00:40:44.940 robertthibodeau: So if if board comment is done. 364 00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:49.290 robertthibodeau: i'm going to. 365 00:40:50.400 --> 00:40:57.060 robertthibodeau: call a vote on item seven and the motion to reinstitute. 366 00:40:58.290 --> 00:41:09.150 robertthibodeau: parking enforcement and I think this should be sent to as Nick said the mayor's office and city council for sure and appreciate. 367 00:41:13.350 --> 00:41:29.910 robertthibodeau: sergeant Johnson, and the tenants Toronto, I believe it was silverado who spoke, thank you for your information, again, most of us are in the dark on this step, so you got to realize we're coming from a little bit of a place of ignorance, as to why things are the way they are. 368 00:41:33.270 --> 00:41:35.580 james murez: So, Robert you need it, you need to do a roll call vote. 369 00:41:35.880 --> 00:41:38.340 robertthibodeau: The roll call vote, Nick. 370 00:41:38.520 --> 00:41:38.970 Yes. 371 00:41:40.170 --> 00:41:41.010 robertthibodeau: allison. 372 00:41:41.100 --> 00:41:46.860 robertthibodeau: s and myself, although yes so we've got 300. 373 00:41:49.770 --> 00:41:52.050 robertthibodeau: Thank thank you both for attending the meeting. 374 00:41:53.670 --> 00:42:02.880 robertthibodeau: i'm okay i'm going to say that we aren't really taking things out of order because five and six are we're both. 375 00:42:04.380 --> 00:42:13.260 robertthibodeau: Old items where there was nothing to do this meeting oh hey sergeant James Johnson has stand up, should we should we unmute him and. 376 00:42:13.290 --> 00:42:16.050 james murez: Let him speak or I think he can unmute himself, he said. 377 00:42:16.050 --> 00:42:16.680 panelists. 378 00:42:17.880 --> 00:42:19.500 robertthibodeau: Then please, please jump in there. 379 00:42:20.430 --> 00:42:21.630 Sgt. James Johnson: Okay, can you hear me now. 380 00:42:21.780 --> 00:42:23.190 robertthibodeau: Yes, yes, sir. 381 00:42:23.370 --> 00:42:27.990 Sgt. James Johnson: Okay uh I just want to kind of piggyback off of my lieutenant. 382 00:42:29.340 --> 00:42:33.630 Sgt. James Johnson: With our department we're we're our hands are kind of tied to. 383 00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:45.000 Sgt. James Johnson: Because you're dealing with a lot of house individuals in these vehicles that are parked on the streets and it's, not just in Venice it's all over the city. 384 00:42:46.860 --> 00:42:54.330 Sgt. James Johnson: We can put tickets on those vehicles, but it will not give give them the incentive to move. 385 00:42:55.410 --> 00:43:09.270 Sgt. James Johnson: Lots of vehicles have you know expired tags tags has been expired for over a year and they're in the situation I guess that they Unfortunately I can't get out of, and you know until the mayor. 386 00:43:10.620 --> 00:43:30.540 Sgt. James Johnson: decides to you know, maybe you know, be a little bit harder on this particular situation it's this is really not much that we can do, I mean we have put tickets on these vehicles and unfortunately they're not moving so that's where we're at right now. 387 00:43:33.930 --> 00:43:38.580 robertthibodeau: yeah I think yeah it's I mean in a perfect world. 388 00:43:39.480 --> 00:43:51.720 robertthibodeau: we'd have to save parking and people who needed to get the safe parking would be given the help they needed it to say parking and I think some of that's available probably not enough is My guess i'm again, not an expert in any of this. 389 00:43:52.260 --> 00:43:55.890 robertthibodeau: You know the young lady who called in I hope she gets the. 390 00:43:56.910 --> 00:44:07.020 robertthibodeau: You know what she's looking for I don't think I don't think the campers in residential neighborhoods and in front of businesses and stuff like that is the ultimate answer. 391 00:44:07.530 --> 00:44:22.170 robertthibodeau: And i'm afraid without some you know some change in the policy that that happens, right now, we seem to be stuck in sort of an unending cycle of this and I understand some people get help, but it just feels right back up again, and right now the. 392 00:44:23.460 --> 00:44:26.940 robertthibodeau: You know it, it seems to be getting worse, not better and. 393 00:44:29.040 --> 00:44:30.600 robertthibodeau: You see, where we're coming from right. 394 00:44:31.740 --> 00:44:39.810 Sgt. James Johnson: Oh absolutely I can see what you come from you know, this is, this is the issue that we deal with on a regular basis, so. 395 00:44:41.430 --> 00:44:47.370 Sgt. James Johnson: You know I wish we had an answer for you, you, though, but uh it's above us. 396 00:44:47.700 --> 00:44:55.530 robertthibodeau: yeah we get it, you know it's i'm sure it's no fun for you guys and you know honestly I think we're pretty compassionate here in Venice. 397 00:44:55.920 --> 00:45:03.090 robertthibodeau: I think we've been pretty compassionate and you know it's it's tough, you know we've got kids we got trying to bring kids to school it's not. 398 00:45:03.750 --> 00:45:13.860 robertthibodeau: A you know, for every nice person there isn't an rv we've also got some crazies and some drug dealing and all that stuff going on and worse than that and it's. 399 00:45:15.030 --> 00:45:18.900 robertthibodeau: it's not a it's not a good environment, you know. 400 00:45:20.520 --> 00:45:22.800 robertthibodeau: anyways Nick do you get your hand up. 401 00:45:23.190 --> 00:45:23.670 Nick Antonicello: yeah we. 402 00:45:23.730 --> 00:45:24.900 robertthibodeau: can try and wrap this up. 403 00:45:25.050 --> 00:45:40.290 Nick Antonicello: yeah what I wanted to throw it as a as an idea is had i'd like to give a little booty need these are, these are the words that they won't we if you bought them at some point, they have to take action to get the Buddha. 404 00:45:45.390 --> 00:45:48.570 Nick Antonicello: that's just the general question to the officer. 405 00:45:56.310 --> 00:46:04.320 Lt Serrato: This time we're not booting vehicles are Bruton department has kind of been put on hold. 406 00:46:05.700 --> 00:46:10.110 Lt Serrato: So, all we could do right now is just give the citations. 407 00:46:12.180 --> 00:46:13.710 Lt Serrato: And that was print them, they are awesome. 408 00:46:14.160 --> 00:46:27.750 robertthibodeau: Okay, we voted and everything, and thank you both for coming again attendance or auto and surgeon Johnson, and good luck with what you're doing I know it's not an easy job and let's move yeah let's move on to the next issue. 409 00:46:27.750 --> 00:46:29.250 robertthibodeau: But yeah okay. 410 00:46:29.700 --> 00:46:31.080 Lt Serrato: we're gonna leave the meeting for you. 411 00:46:31.110 --> 00:46:33.390 Lt Serrato: bye guys thanks a lot have a good night bye bye. 412 00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:35.070 robertthibodeau: Okay. 413 00:46:36.870 --> 00:46:50.370 robertthibodeau: I Jim I want to, I believe, can you see if we have a caller could you raise your hand if you're here for the mildred red zone and you're waiting Alex Wah Wah Walker with. 414 00:46:51.450 --> 00:46:53.580 robertthibodeau: Just an order to respect the time on that. 415 00:46:54.960 --> 00:46:57.300 james murez: Kevin Andrew Walker raised his hand. 416 00:46:57.720 --> 00:46:59.250 robertthibodeau: Okay, so a. 417 00:46:59.730 --> 00:47:01.530 robertthibodeau: place number nine i'd like to take. 418 00:47:01.530 --> 00:47:02.370 robertthibodeau: These out of order. 419 00:47:02.430 --> 00:47:03.690 robertthibodeau: yeah real. 420 00:47:04.020 --> 00:47:05.430 james murez: emotion and then. 421 00:47:08.670 --> 00:47:10.380 james murez: Go go through the same routine again. 422 00:47:11.490 --> 00:47:14.340 james murez: get it first so you get a maker, and then a second there and then. 423 00:47:15.900 --> 00:47:21.870 robertthibodeau: Well, my my only motion is to switch items, eight, nine, do we need to do that, can I just do, that is. 424 00:47:22.260 --> 00:47:24.300 james murez: No us Chair can just do that that's fine. 425 00:47:24.630 --> 00:47:25.560 robertthibodeau: Okay, and then. 426 00:47:25.590 --> 00:47:28.320 james murez: But to start the item off, you need to make a motion. 427 00:47:30.210 --> 00:47:35.220 robertthibodeau: So it's not written down here, from what I understand the motion is. 428 00:47:36.420 --> 00:47:37.890 robertthibodeau: Whereas there is a. 429 00:47:40.650 --> 00:47:42.540 robertthibodeau: trap Oh, we do have emotion. 430 00:47:44.550 --> 00:47:44.940 You do. 431 00:47:47.820 --> 00:47:51.300 robertthibodeau: he's got it on to this got written on eight the. 432 00:47:52.380 --> 00:48:01.860 robertthibodeau: Okay, so we'll make a motion motion is to send a letter to do T and beauty, to request the removal of parking spaces on the North side of mildred abbott ocean. 433 00:48:02.580 --> 00:48:14.370 robertthibodeau: Whereas the intersection at mildred APP and ocean is narrow and heavily used, we are requesting the removal of three parking spaces and the corresponding increase of the red zone on. 434 00:48:15.450 --> 00:48:22.800 robertthibodeau: The North side of mildred ocean I believe that's adjacent to the the church building. 435 00:48:25.650 --> 00:48:29.340 robertthibodeau: At a Venice that corners Venice in ocean. 436 00:48:31.170 --> 00:48:31.920 Nick Antonicello: i'll make the motion. 437 00:48:34.260 --> 00:48:34.860 robertthibodeau: All second. 438 00:48:34.920 --> 00:48:35.970 james murez: i'll second the Robert you. 439 00:48:35.970 --> 00:48:36.990 james murez: can't hear the Chair. 440 00:48:37.410 --> 00:48:37.980 robertthibodeau: I second. 441 00:48:38.430 --> 00:48:39.360 robertthibodeau: One second attempt. 442 00:48:39.480 --> 00:48:40.320 I think about. 443 00:48:43.650 --> 00:48:46.050 robertthibodeau: Okay let's have Andrew. 444 00:48:47.070 --> 00:48:48.210 robertthibodeau: introduces. 445 00:48:48.780 --> 00:48:56.790 james murez: Do you want to Robert do you have access to the Internet, so you could maybe bring it up on Google so everybody can see the intersection you're referring to. 446 00:48:58.410 --> 00:48:58.770 robertthibodeau: If. 447 00:49:00.780 --> 00:49:04.650 robertthibodeau: You want we allows can we allow Andrew to screen share he shared a. 448 00:49:04.830 --> 00:49:05.250 james murez: vision. 449 00:49:05.310 --> 00:49:08.100 robertthibodeau: He has appreciate he shared a presentation with me. 450 00:49:08.250 --> 00:49:10.470 robertthibodeau: I think it would be better if he did it than I did it. 451 00:49:10.500 --> 00:49:15.090 james murez: So let's promote him and then. 452 00:49:16.230 --> 00:49:17.280 james murez: i'm promoting him. 453 00:49:18.300 --> 00:49:24.090 james murez: Once he's there now he's promoted Andrey you've been promoted so do you know how to screen share out Andrew. 454 00:49:25.620 --> 00:49:32.370 james murez: You go down to the bottom of your screen there's a little green arrow you click on and then, if you have your other window open. 455 00:49:33.240 --> 00:49:49.650 james murez: Where it shows were, whatever your presentation is, if you already have that open someplace else on your desktop, then you click on that little green button in the bottom of the zoom and you click on the image of the screen, you want to share and then you click the share button. 456 00:49:51.780 --> 00:49:53.940 james murez: Now you're muted that wasn't it. 457 00:49:58.770 --> 00:50:00.930 james murez: No, you have to unmute if you want us to hear you. 458 00:50:03.360 --> 00:50:03.930 james murez: There you go. 459 00:50:08.670 --> 00:50:10.590 Andrew Walter: not sure how to screen share, though. 460 00:50:10.830 --> 00:50:18.150 james murez: Okay, do you have whatever it is, you want to show currently open on your desktop someplace. 461 00:50:18.450 --> 00:50:32.730 james murez: Yes, okay now at the bottom of the zoom usually it's at the bottom anyway there's a green arrow so move your cursor down to the very bottom edge of the zoom call. 462 00:50:34.530 --> 00:50:35.280 james murez: window. 463 00:50:36.960 --> 00:50:40.230 james murez: And as you hover over there you go there you go perfect. 464 00:50:41.370 --> 00:50:43.170 james murez: You got it okay make your presentation. 465 00:50:44.880 --> 00:50:46.110 james murez: you're an expert at this already. 466 00:50:47.700 --> 00:50:58.230 Andrew Walter: This is, this is all about the intersection that's pictured and propose no parking North side of mildred avenue in the red box indicates. 467 00:50:58.680 --> 00:51:16.380 Andrew Walter: Where we were like to have the red zone currently the red curve zone is approximately 42 feet long and we'd like to extend it an additional 90 feet, so it will extend from ocean avenue to. 468 00:51:18.060 --> 00:51:25.740 Andrew Walter: It looks like two car garage which is on the east end of the red line or the red curb. 469 00:51:27.570 --> 00:51:40.500 Andrew Walter: it's been defined, as Mr kim's former bodega across the street and at the front of the bodega or Mr kim's former store there's a green. 470 00:51:41.610 --> 00:51:58.800 Andrew Walter: parking curb that's limited to 15 minutes if you go further east from that green zone on green curb zone there's space for two automobiles to park on that side of the street or the South side of mildred avenue. 471 00:51:59.790 --> 00:52:06.600 Andrew Walter: Currently, what happens is mildred avenue is being used as a through street. 472 00:52:07.140 --> 00:52:19.110 Andrew Walter: and express route, if you will, by many different people many commercial carriers and share groups and so forth from Washington avenue to Venice boulevard. 473 00:52:19.680 --> 00:52:33.330 Andrew Walter: and anybody who has been at the Venice or at this intersection the mildred avenue ocean avenue intersection realizes how close to that intersection is to Venice boulevard. 474 00:52:34.320 --> 00:52:47.310 Andrew Walter: I don't know how wide ocean avenue is at that point, but it definitely is or congestion point also notice that on mildred avenue there's bicycle path. 475 00:52:48.750 --> 00:53:04.620 Andrew Walter: As part of the roadway in both directions and in the morning or anytime there's a rush hour or heavy tourist traffic and so forth, the traffic just bunches up at the intersection of mildred and ocean. 476 00:53:05.880 --> 00:53:10.200 Andrew Walter: And the reason it bunches up is that there can be. 477 00:53:11.310 --> 00:53:21.420 Andrew Walter: Basically gridlock because cars can't pass on mildred avenue because cars can be parked on both sides of mildred avenue currently. 478 00:53:22.500 --> 00:53:35.190 Andrew Walter: And that's why removing the are increasingly red zone, the Red curb zone to a no parking zone that's about 100 and would that be 130 feet long. 479 00:53:35.820 --> 00:53:47.100 Andrew Walter: Instead of its current length of about 42 feet leavey ate the problem, because then cars could pass right at the intersection to alleviate the grid but gridlock. 480 00:53:51.240 --> 00:54:09.690 Andrew Walter: And really what we were like is to have the neighborhood Council support doing this and if anyone of you know, personal contact at the La Department of Transportation that we could talk to to expedite this situation that would be wonderful. 481 00:54:12.720 --> 00:54:22.380 james murez: Okay, is a that's your presentation, thank you, Andrew do me a favor don't go away i'm Robert do you want to open public comment. 482 00:54:23.100 --> 00:54:24.900 robertthibodeau: yeah public comment is open. 483 00:54:25.800 --> 00:54:28.410 james murez: So anybody that wants to speak should raise their hand. 484 00:54:29.640 --> 00:54:32.100 james murez: let's give anybody who wants to speak a minute or two. 485 00:54:34.320 --> 00:54:36.510 james murez: Erica you want to go ahead and start you're unmuted. 486 00:54:37.980 --> 00:54:48.780 Erica Moore: hi yeah I definitely have something to say about this particular location, the fact that there is i'm trying to get the Google map street you up, so I could look at it in a better way but. 487 00:54:49.470 --> 00:54:59.790 Erica Moore: That little bodega that was there I know it's vacant right now it's for sale, but eventually it's going to be inhabited and for the neighborhood it's gonna be a store or a CAFE or something. 488 00:55:00.060 --> 00:55:10.830 Erica Moore: And I think, to take away more parking which is right across from that is not a good idea, I think that that's I think that's not I don't think that's good, I think that. 489 00:55:12.000 --> 00:55:19.950 Erica Moore: I think that you have to consider that you have that independent living right there and then you've got this pod chair, which is a huge influx of people and that's probably. 490 00:55:20.370 --> 00:55:24.630 Erica Moore: One of the things that's impacting that section and I don't think. 491 00:55:25.260 --> 00:55:37.530 Erica Moore: it's going to be attractive for someone to come in and take over that space that retail space that's been vacant forever not forever, but i'm exaggerating obviously but it's not going to be attractive for them to be less parking I mean. 492 00:55:39.090 --> 00:55:49.710 Erica Moore: People should be able to pull up going to buy something or whatever, and then you know move on, so the next person can come and I really think it's something to look at, I think, I think that really needs to be looked at. 493 00:55:52.620 --> 00:55:55.260 james murez: Okay, thank you um. 494 00:55:56.310 --> 00:56:00.600 james murez: i'm gonna see if I can bring it up here in Google. 495 00:56:02.010 --> 00:56:05.700 james murez: So we can get another view of it here we go. 496 00:56:07.230 --> 00:56:08.490 james murez: let's see if I can share my. 497 00:56:08.490 --> 00:56:09.120 screen. 498 00:56:12.450 --> 00:56:13.920 james murez: Oh somebody else, are you good. 499 00:56:15.120 --> 00:56:16.560 james murez: Great who shared their screen. 500 00:56:17.790 --> 00:56:18.330 To us. 501 00:56:22.170 --> 00:56:23.970 Andrew Walter: And we'll give you one more view really quickly. 502 00:56:31.470 --> 00:56:32.520 Andrew Walter: Everybody see that. 503 00:56:35.670 --> 00:56:36.030 yep. 504 00:56:37.230 --> 00:56:43.950 Erica Moore: So it's a directly across from that little commercial space, which has very little parking to begin with. 505 00:56:46.200 --> 00:56:54.540 Andrew Walter: that's actually incorrect the streets in the surrounding area have ample parking this would cost three spaces. 506 00:56:55.110 --> 00:57:04.320 Andrew Walter: In an area where I don't know if you can see my cursor but there's plenty of parking along Venice boulevard and there's also a lot of parking on beach and mildred further and. 507 00:57:04.620 --> 00:57:17.430 Erica Moore: i'm telling you that I know that space, and if you go to it people I just know from even from where my store is people don't want to park around the corner, to come to the store they're just gonna go past it and go somewhere else. 508 00:57:18.510 --> 00:57:33.390 Andrew Walter: we'd love suki get permitted for something a little bit bigger than what it was, unfortunately, we voted that out so to suki had to leave, but it would be nice to have a spot there, I think this is more of a concern for the safety of the cyclist who are commuting from. 509 00:57:34.560 --> 00:57:44.250 Andrew Walter: The beach path up mildred to connect into the Marina, and this is how they all come in and, unfortunately, because of the volume of cars and the way that that pinch point works, it makes it a little scary on a bike. 510 00:57:45.120 --> 00:57:53.610 Erica Moore: have to have a good a traffic study on if they're having accidents and how many they have I mean, obviously we don't want bicycles, to be at risk either I mean we need it to work for everybody. 511 00:57:56.640 --> 00:58:00.240 Erica Moore: Data on that, on the accidents and things like that, for us to know about. 512 00:58:00.660 --> 00:58:08.430 Andrew Walter: We don't have the money for a traffic study at this point we're just using common sense living around the corner from this and writing through that area, you know 568. 513 00:58:09.810 --> 00:58:10.170 Erica Moore: i'm you. 514 00:58:11.250 --> 00:58:12.480 james murez: Know i'm. 515 00:58:13.980 --> 00:58:17.910 james murez: There other any other public comments with their hands up here. 516 00:58:19.800 --> 00:58:21.630 james murez: Eric i'm going to lower your hand for you. 517 00:58:22.260 --> 00:58:23.190 Erica Moore: Okay, thank you. 518 00:58:24.360 --> 00:58:30.240 james murez: There is somebody 173 the color ending and 173 to you want to have speak on this item. 519 00:58:32.220 --> 00:58:38.820 1561****713: hi i'm sorry, but my stakeholders guys was called into question and I did just want to clarify that. 520 00:58:39.090 --> 00:58:39.240 robertthibodeau: I. 521 00:58:39.330 --> 00:58:43.440 1561****713: have been on housing Venice, and I am currently unfiltered and on housed and I did. 522 00:58:44.580 --> 00:58:45.600 robertthibodeau: run run. 523 00:58:46.080 --> 00:58:47.130 robertthibodeau: run to another. 524 00:58:48.030 --> 00:58:49.170 to another agenda item. 525 00:58:52.770 --> 00:58:55.200 james murez: Excuse me or off topic i'm going to i'm going to meet you. 526 00:58:55.380 --> 00:58:55.860 james murez: Thank you. 527 00:58:58.170 --> 00:59:00.870 robertthibodeau: Okay, do we have anybody else who wants to speak. 528 00:59:00.870 --> 00:59:03.450 james murez: No other there's no other there's no other hands up. 529 00:59:04.530 --> 00:59:07.110 robertthibodeau: So, shall we shift this to board comment. 530 00:59:07.350 --> 00:59:09.720 james murez: yeah closed closed public comment and. 531 00:59:09.930 --> 00:59:14.760 robertthibodeau: Those public comment let's have a committee comment on this. 532 00:59:19.440 --> 00:59:25.440 robertthibodeau: allison or Nick you were Jim do you have any comment. 533 00:59:25.710 --> 00:59:35.820 james murez: Well, I, my question is, we heard Andrew speak, but you know i'm wondering, you know before this goes before the board. 534 00:59:36.480 --> 00:59:45.330 james murez: It seems to me that there needs to be a larger coalition of some sort of greater outreach when when we talk about a speed bump. 535 00:59:46.020 --> 00:59:56.850 james murez: which you know is sort of a mundane kind of thing to have installed on the street we're talking about 66% of the people on the block have to weigh in on it. 536 00:59:57.450 --> 01:00:09.030 james murez: And and wanted it needs to be a positive thing to that many people, you know if we're talking about a construction project we're talking about a 500 foot radius here we're talking about. 537 01:00:10.110 --> 01:00:27.510 james murez: know it affecting as Miss Moore said in the public comment there's a commercial business directly across the street, we haven't heard from them, I don't know how much outreach Robert you did or or Andrew did. 538 01:00:28.890 --> 01:00:35.700 james murez: To bring this item before the committee, but it seems, it seems to me that, before you take it forward to the board. 539 01:00:36.090 --> 01:00:49.650 james murez: You need to have a certain amount of outreach on something that could have a potential impact, you know I, I am very familiar with that intersection i've spent a lot of time in the area, and I know that a low there is part of one. 540 01:00:51.210 --> 01:00:56.160 james murez: Venice boulevard it's not in that first block that whole block is all red. 541 01:00:57.270 --> 01:01:07.680 james murez: candle and so that's where the the like the front of the old church property there that's where the bus stop is and there's no parking on the opposite side because that's where the library is. 542 01:01:09.420 --> 01:01:21.840 james murez: The i'm i'm concerned that there hasn't been any outreach and that you know, removing parking public parking spaces, is something that the coastal Commission frowns very heavily on. 543 01:01:22.410 --> 01:01:27.960 james murez: And, and to take a public parking space off the street is actually something that requires a coastal development permit. 544 01:01:28.710 --> 01:01:44.220 james murez: It has to go through led ot so before we make that kind of request and Andrew to answer your question the dnc does have very good ties with with people in the transportation department and things like this can be expedited if there's actually a serious. 545 01:01:45.690 --> 01:01:59.220 james murez: safety risk here, but there hasn't been any outreach, at least not any that's being presented tonight, and so I kind of feel like that's something that needs to happen before it comes before the larger audience of the full board. 546 01:02:02.790 --> 01:02:08.400 james murez: i'll just say i'm not opposed to removing the parking spaces if it's something that the Community wants to do. 547 01:02:10.650 --> 01:02:13.050 robertthibodeau: A new belson you guys. 548 01:02:13.200 --> 01:02:20.940 alyson_wilson: yeah i'm on the same page Jim i've actually watched this intersection not clearly not certainly as closely as you have Andrew but. 549 01:02:21.960 --> 01:02:30.990 alyson_wilson: I can see both sides, I also think sometimes encouraging cut through traffic is can have you know problems down the road literally down the road. 550 01:02:32.340 --> 01:02:39.750 alyson_wilson: And it just does something I think we need to look at more holistically i'd love some more information here. 551 01:02:43.650 --> 01:02:50.490 robertthibodeau: Though So if I can take the floor for a SEC yeah I know the corner really well to in a previous lifetime I. 552 01:02:51.600 --> 01:03:04.770 robertthibodeau: represented to zucchini market across the street, no longer working for them just for full disclosure so that there's no conflict of interest, but several years ago I did so I know the corner quite well and. 553 01:03:05.910 --> 01:03:14.970 robertthibodeau: I do agree that that corner is problematic from a traffic perspective, trying to take a left there forces traffic to back up on. 554 01:03:16.080 --> 01:03:33.780 robertthibodeau: On on ocean and then that creates a situation where you get cars swinging around other cars and it's sort of a little bit of a game of chicken to try and make that left hand turn and especially at peak hours, where the. 555 01:03:34.830 --> 01:03:38.940 robertthibodeau: Three is only room for one car to fit through at a time it's not a good situation. 556 01:03:39.840 --> 01:03:51.810 robertthibodeau: So i'm not unsympathetic to the request, but I do agree, I think we should punt this you know Pontus, not because we don't support it or not, because you know we possibly wouldn't support it. 557 01:03:52.230 --> 01:03:59.160 robertthibodeau: But because, like Jim said, I think that there needs to be some sort of outreach and I can certainly provide. 558 01:04:00.810 --> 01:04:05.220 robertthibodeau: provide the contact information for the sellers of the property. 559 01:04:07.080 --> 01:04:10.530 robertthibodeau: At least across there and then I believe that. 560 01:04:13.170 --> 01:04:25.470 robertthibodeau: I believe I have contacts to the people working on the church property right now to know I don't think the impact, there is bad, because I think really from the presentations they did their first partner is going to be all the way around the other side on. 561 01:04:26.010 --> 01:04:38.490 robertthibodeau: What is that Washington way or whatever that's called on the other side, so I don't see that as being as much of an issue, but with respect to these people, I think that they should be contacted and had an opportunity. 562 01:04:39.930 --> 01:04:43.230 robertthibodeau: to weigh in on I see, I see a hand going up to you. 563 01:04:44.310 --> 01:04:49.530 robertthibodeau: to weigh in on this, and maybe what we can do is for this or said, Nick. 564 01:04:49.980 --> 01:04:53.490 robertthibodeau: got a lot of hands and God I didn't know I said anything so controversial. 565 01:04:53.970 --> 01:04:54.720 i'm. 566 01:04:56.520 --> 01:04:57.690 robertthibodeau: i'm i'm muting. 567 01:04:58.560 --> 01:05:01.290 james murez: Nick before you do, let me make a suggestion, Robert. 568 01:05:02.910 --> 01:05:09.420 james murez: there's some some basic standards that you probably want to have questioned. 569 01:05:10.530 --> 01:05:29.640 james murez: And and start to bring do T into the conversation so part of the the you know the the process at this point, really should be for Andrew to go out and get signatures of people in the neighborhood that agree with his position and he needs to canvas. 570 01:05:30.930 --> 01:05:47.190 james murez: You know, both the commercial as well as the development project, where the Church is being proposed, and also the neighbors around around that general area, but at the same time, the committee could make a request to led ot. 571 01:05:48.390 --> 01:05:53.250 james murez: The street with is a very substandard with street that's why there's no stripe down the Center of it. 572 01:05:54.660 --> 01:06:04.860 james murez: And the distance to the corner when they mark a red curve for a stop sign the normal distance is always 45 feet and I believe that's what Andrew happened to mention. 573 01:06:05.310 --> 01:06:18.090 james murez: Was the amount of red curve that's currently there so based on the size of the street and the red curve that's their those would be very normal conditions, what may not be normal is the amount of traffic. 574 01:06:18.420 --> 01:06:20.220 james murez: And they could do a traffic count. 575 01:06:20.580 --> 01:06:30.450 james murez: That would allow them to start to look at what are the other options within their standards manual can they do without having to have any kind of special hearing or something. 576 01:06:30.660 --> 01:06:42.780 james murez: So if they want to start just arbitrarily taking parking spaces off the street they're going to have to file coastal development permits to reduce public parking but if there are. 577 01:06:43.800 --> 01:06:51.510 james murez: Other circumstances that have to do with let's say a high level of traffic on a narrow street and for safety purposes. 578 01:06:51.930 --> 01:07:00.870 james murez: To increase red curb they may not have to go through a much more lengthy process, and so, by getting them involved early on, maybe, while Andrews collecting signatures. 579 01:07:01.380 --> 01:07:18.240 james murez: And regrouping in a month or so that might be a better solution than just pushing it off and and you know not taking any positive action with the city at this point because we do have the clout to try and help to help this process along and see where it goes. 580 01:07:19.050 --> 01:07:20.970 Nick Antonicello: hey based on jim's comment. 581 01:07:22.020 --> 01:07:25.590 Nick Antonicello: And the prior comments i'll make a motion to postpone this notion. 582 01:07:29.070 --> 01:07:37.410 james murez: and Robert is chair, if you want the contacts for these people, I can i'm more than happy to share them with you because I have them all from when I was doing what you're doing. 583 01:07:37.830 --> 01:07:42.570 robertthibodeau: We need, we need a second either allison and myself to second. 584 01:07:43.170 --> 01:07:43.980 james murez: rubber you can't. 585 01:07:44.340 --> 01:07:45.120 alyson_wilson: i'll second. 586 01:07:45.420 --> 01:07:46.710 robertthibodeau: that's a problem and right. 587 01:07:50.910 --> 01:07:52.800 Nick Antonicello: But by nature chairman. 588 01:07:53.370 --> 01:07:55.920 Nick Antonicello: should never make a motion or second motion. 589 01:07:59.850 --> 01:08:01.290 james murez: So now you want to just take the boat. 590 01:08:03.180 --> 01:08:04.020 james murez: roll call Roman. 591 01:08:05.760 --> 01:08:08.490 robertthibodeau: Okay roll call the nick. 592 01:08:09.150 --> 01:08:11.100 robertthibodeau: yeah allison. 593 01:08:11.400 --> 01:08:14.220 robertthibodeau: Yes, i'm going to go, yes to. 594 01:08:15.420 --> 01:08:22.950 robertthibodeau: and Andrew i'm going to follow up with you, with some contact information for the neighboring properties. 595 01:08:23.040 --> 01:08:25.350 robertthibodeau: And we do fully understand the situation. 596 01:08:25.440 --> 01:08:25.890 and 597 01:08:27.510 --> 01:08:31.860 robertthibodeau: But uh we do need to respect the property owners. 598 01:08:32.970 --> 01:08:35.280 robertthibodeau: will follow up with an email after this okay. 599 01:08:35.700 --> 01:08:43.050 james murez: and Robert i'll share some do team contacts and Council office context, it might be able to help things along to. 600 01:08:45.930 --> 01:08:46.980 Andrew Walter: Thank you very much. 601 01:08:47.910 --> 01:08:51.720 james murez: you're welcome Andrew, thank you for coming putting forward the effort in the Community it's great. 602 01:08:52.350 --> 01:08:55.140 Andrew Walter: We look forward to helping you helping us. 603 01:08:55.620 --> 01:08:56.370 Absolutely. 604 01:09:05.100 --> 01:09:07.440 james murez: Now you're back to your original agenda Robert. 605 01:09:08.160 --> 01:09:10.830 robertthibodeau: Right so i'm. 606 01:09:14.340 --> 01:09:18.030 robertthibodeau: Okay, in the interest of trying to get this. 607 01:09:20.070 --> 01:09:26.220 robertthibodeau: Well, so what we have now is we've got one that I consider more of a working session. 608 01:09:27.360 --> 01:09:27.960 robertthibodeau: Which is. 609 01:09:29.130 --> 01:09:30.450 robertthibodeau: To kind of take a. 610 01:09:31.680 --> 01:09:38.580 robertthibodeau: Broad look at the Community plan with the specifically to the items that are parking transportation. 611 01:09:40.800 --> 01:09:42.240 robertthibodeau: related and. 612 01:09:44.220 --> 01:09:44.580 robertthibodeau: and 613 01:09:47.460 --> 01:09:57.120 robertthibodeau: and, ideally, you know, maybe a couple of meetings down the road get some sort of suggested position peace in front of the b&c. 614 01:09:59.160 --> 01:09:59.910 robertthibodeau: to that. 615 01:10:03.030 --> 01:10:06.330 robertthibodeau: are first of all, Nick and allison he goes up for this. 616 01:10:08.070 --> 01:10:09.330 alyson_wilson: And my homework. 617 01:10:09.720 --> 01:10:10.740 robertthibodeau: You did your homework. 618 01:10:10.800 --> 01:10:16.320 alyson_wilson: But I feel like we're missing, I will i'm up for it, but we as we miss board members we're going to be missing part of the story to. 619 01:10:16.800 --> 01:10:19.830 robertthibodeau: That I hate them, you know what. 620 01:10:21.990 --> 01:10:35.940 robertthibodeau: So maybe what we could do is what I did was I I read lined you know I highlight highlight the actual document and fly through the pages there's really a couple of sort of concentrated areas where they talk about. 621 01:10:37.260 --> 01:10:38.850 robertthibodeau: parking a transportation. 622 01:10:40.560 --> 01:10:54.510 robertthibodeau: And maybe we could just start and then get them in on it next meeting, where we could we could forward it to if you guys feel more comfortable forwarding it i'm i'm certainly no hurry and then we have two possible brac motions to which. 623 01:10:55.500 --> 01:11:01.320 robertthibodeau: Honestly, you know we could we could forward those also I mean it's not the end of the world, what do you guys want to do. 624 01:11:02.100 --> 01:11:05.280 Nick Antonicello: A better idea to do this with the full board because. 625 01:11:06.780 --> 01:11:11.220 Nick Antonicello: I want to hear what john has to say and you know and others. 626 01:11:14.190 --> 01:11:24.960 Nick Antonicello: The other number for guidance selena and what she has to say so, why don't we we can move this to the next meeting is people will have more time look at the documentation. 627 01:11:26.400 --> 01:11:26.760 Nick Antonicello: for that. 628 01:11:27.840 --> 01:11:31.080 robertthibodeau: Do you want to make that motion to postpone this then Nick well. 629 01:11:31.650 --> 01:11:34.470 james murez: But before you do, let me just make a quick mention. 630 01:11:35.910 --> 01:11:40.980 james murez: Remember the meetings being recorded and if we mark the time now. 631 01:11:42.450 --> 01:11:45.270 james murez: Where we are in the meeting and it's about eight minutes after eight. 632 01:11:48.090 --> 01:11:59.760 james murez: If you had a discussion, and if you started to go into it, they could very quickly and easily see what had been said, as long as you're not taking any action at this point, it would sort of start the conversation going. 633 01:12:01.860 --> 01:12:10.380 james murez: It wouldn't finish the conversation, but it would get things off the ground as far as the Rack motion I believe there's deadlines on those so you want to act on those. 634 01:12:10.470 --> 01:12:11.730 Nick Antonicello: What about this, then. 635 01:12:12.960 --> 01:12:14.670 Nick Antonicello: Rather watch, you said. 636 01:12:14.700 --> 01:12:15.600 Nick Antonicello: Why don't we take 10. 637 01:12:15.690 --> 01:12:17.490 robertthibodeau: Why don't we take 10 minutes on this neck. 638 01:12:18.030 --> 01:12:19.470 Nick Antonicello: that's fine that's fine. 639 01:12:19.890 --> 01:12:31.260 robertthibodeau: Okay i'm going to screen share again and i'm going to bring up the the Community plan and i'm going to move pretty fast on this if that's okay with everybody. 640 01:12:32.130 --> 01:12:33.120 Nick Antonicello: The facet of that. 641 01:12:34.920 --> 01:12:35.130 robertthibodeau: well. 642 01:12:35.430 --> 01:12:36.660 robertthibodeau: Well, well spoken. 643 01:12:44.940 --> 01:12:54.630 robertthibodeau: Book you do so i'm going to speed through here so we've got a Community plan, this is about I think it's about 60 to 70 pages. 644 01:12:56.340 --> 01:13:11.670 robertthibodeau: We have some documents that are quoted at the beginning, one of the first ones is a mobility plan i'm a little bit familiar with that, but there's a lot of stuff there's a lot of stuff here about Venice history that doesn't have much to do with transportation. 645 01:13:14.520 --> 01:13:16.110 robertthibodeau: Why did I highlight this. 646 01:13:17.670 --> 01:13:29.640 robertthibodeau: Lack of adequate parking there you go, so I did highlight I I can share the highlight document with you guys afterwards, so I just Ping everything to talk about streets are talking about parking okay. 647 01:13:31.860 --> 01:13:35.520 robertthibodeau: This was more of an infrastructure thing, maybe that didn't need to be paying. 648 01:13:37.470 --> 01:13:49.560 robertthibodeau: Private you know some of these things I think we're going to look and we're going to go with this really an issue anymore so like private residential encroachments to public right of ways that seems to be a rarity the skin age, maybe 20 years ago happened a little more. 649 01:13:50.820 --> 01:13:56.040 james murez: Well, you know, one of the big areas where that exists is on all the walk streets. 650 01:13:56.190 --> 01:13:59.550 robertthibodeau: Okay, but i'm going to keep rolling on this. 651 01:13:59.550 --> 01:14:00.660 robertthibodeau: yeah that's. 652 01:14:00.720 --> 01:14:03.450 james murez: not a bad thing i'm just saying that it does exist. 653 01:14:04.740 --> 01:14:09.720 robertthibodeau: So here they're talking about Lincoln boulevard visual identity, lack of adequate parking. 654 01:14:11.370 --> 01:14:13.590 robertthibodeau: That was that was pre pre em. 655 01:14:14.040 --> 01:14:14.790 robertthibodeau: and 656 01:14:15.570 --> 01:14:16.320 james murez: When I did the team. 657 01:14:18.810 --> 01:14:19.710 james murez: If there's a linking. 658 01:14:19.800 --> 01:14:20.700 james murez: Word or. 659 01:14:21.180 --> 01:14:22.200 james murez: Specific plan. 660 01:14:22.890 --> 01:14:29.190 robertthibodeau: Were we all were on those meetings that are, let me, let me just fly okay fine yeah. 661 01:14:30.300 --> 01:14:42.990 robertthibodeau: They talk about establishing St identities and now this was kind of interesting because this came up several points in the document, where it seemed to be that the desire again i'm going to say 20 ish years ago was. 662 01:14:44.610 --> 01:14:53.310 robertthibodeau: There was sort of entering Venice which i've thought about before to entering Venice thing, so you knew when you're coming down Venice or Washington. 663 01:14:53.730 --> 01:15:01.410 robertthibodeau: Or maybe on Lincoln you knew, you were coming into Venice say from our vista or culver city or Santa Monica or Playa. 664 01:15:02.100 --> 01:15:08.580 robertthibodeau: So there was this was mentioned several times that there be some way of marketing that you're actually in Venice and. 665 01:15:09.090 --> 01:15:15.300 robertthibodeau: To my knowledge is never was accomplished some of the stuff in this I think has been accomplished, but some things. 666 01:15:16.020 --> 01:15:28.620 robertthibodeau: seem like they are still open, and whether or not we want to pursue them or for keep them as maybe a good discussion point potential mixed use so we've all seen mixed use happening. 667 01:15:30.120 --> 01:15:34.140 robertthibodeau: reduce traffic circulation, these were, by the way, goals. 668 01:15:35.310 --> 01:15:45.060 robertthibodeau: promote commercial areas on Abbot kinney that seems to have happened each oriented visitor serving activities coastal demand that sort of seems to be happening. 669 01:15:46.440 --> 01:15:57.450 robertthibodeau: Transportation issues, this is a good really good one for everybody to read, I think some of these have been addressed some may not be issues anymore, and then some continue to be issues. 670 01:16:01.140 --> 01:16:02.400 robertthibodeau: opportunities. 671 01:16:03.960 --> 01:16:06.210 robertthibodeau: I thought that a lot of these are pretty good. 672 01:16:07.350 --> 01:16:09.090 robertthibodeau: it'd be good to review. 673 01:16:11.430 --> 01:16:16.260 robertthibodeau: These and see if these are still you know our priorities as a board and as a Community. 674 01:16:19.350 --> 01:16:24.780 robertthibodeau: So skip recognized in space where did I have this on here. 675 01:16:25.800 --> 01:16:33.510 robertthibodeau: Now else, maybe I didn't need to put that on there, maybe I thought that was a street okay stats stats stats going to fly through stats. 676 01:16:34.860 --> 01:16:37.680 robertthibodeau: they're all interesting no it's all demographics and benefits. 677 01:16:39.330 --> 01:16:41.280 robertthibodeau: This says that. 678 01:16:42.870 --> 01:16:52.470 robertthibodeau: The Community plan needs to have a circulation element which I thought was you know, so we got a foot get our foot in the door guys. 679 01:16:53.910 --> 01:16:54.960 robertthibodeau: fly through here. 680 01:16:58.980 --> 01:17:04.800 robertthibodeau: Balanced transportation systems Public Private yada yada yada we're supposed to kind of. 681 01:17:04.800 --> 01:17:07.140 james murez: Robert everything scroll excuse me for interrupting. 682 01:17:07.200 --> 01:17:13.650 james murez: there's a meeting tomorrow that I want to get that can you scroll back up to the circulation thing what's that that State law number. 683 01:17:16.560 --> 01:17:17.430 robertthibodeau: That. 684 01:17:20.400 --> 01:17:21.240 james murez: right there hold it. 685 01:17:22.200 --> 01:17:31.980 robertthibodeau: yeah 5300 and then there's something about a city charter section nine 6.5. 686 01:17:33.540 --> 01:17:35.970 robertthibodeau: So i'm going to keep moving, though, Jim you got that. 687 01:17:38.730 --> 01:17:46.140 robertthibodeau: This all describes what the Community plan is in sort of a broader scale it's not specific to Venice. 688 01:17:49.560 --> 01:18:00.720 robertthibodeau: To now we're into Chapter three, so this is going to be the heavy one if you read one and not any of the others Chapter three definitely has a couple of transportation sections in it. 689 01:18:01.380 --> 01:18:12.030 robertthibodeau: This is it supposed to promote stability and sort of a balanced life between you know residential uses and and infrastructure and livability. 690 01:18:13.710 --> 01:18:15.090 robertthibodeau: that's sort of the goal. 691 01:18:16.710 --> 01:18:18.180 robertthibodeau: And more stats. 692 01:18:21.360 --> 01:18:24.480 robertthibodeau: talk here about reducing congestion by having. 693 01:18:26.220 --> 01:18:30.960 robertthibodeau: proximity to services and facilities, what we do about that. 694 01:18:32.310 --> 01:18:35.220 robertthibodeau: there's a few sort of miscellaneous points there. 695 01:18:39.360 --> 01:18:44.010 robertthibodeau: But then we get into some bigger ones here. 696 01:18:47.040 --> 01:18:55.560 robertthibodeau: that's talking about this is all talking about pedestrian oriented communities, which I find interesting and something I would certainly personally support. 697 01:18:57.060 --> 01:18:58.770 robertthibodeau: not sure exactly what that means. 698 01:18:59.880 --> 01:19:01.350 robertthibodeau: General commercial. 699 01:19:02.640 --> 01:19:06.660 robertthibodeau: Recent transportation part to have Program. 700 01:19:08.580 --> 01:19:12.510 robertthibodeau: dentistry and oriented districts is all pedestrian oriented stuff. 701 01:19:16.830 --> 01:19:18.060 robertthibodeau: Industrial. 702 01:19:19.920 --> 01:19:33.630 robertthibodeau: Industrial stuff seemed very outdated to me really don't have much of an industrial unless you can consider software development as part of the industrial core then it's I think that that seeing that most of that stuff seems a little bygone to me. 703 01:19:42.720 --> 01:19:44.310 robertthibodeau: Flying through here guys. 704 01:19:47.820 --> 01:20:06.270 robertthibodeau: Are transportation so here's the biggie this is Chapter three pages 21 and stuff, so this is definitely worth worth reading to talk about traffic and pregnant mitigation program really sort of addresses everything from maintenance of streets. 705 01:20:07.860 --> 01:20:12.150 robertthibodeau: And really stuff, like the previous speaker was just talking about. 706 01:20:13.440 --> 01:20:22.530 robertthibodeau: For sort of a livable community and everything from access to bus routes, which of course jim's been very concerned with so that may call that. 707 01:20:23.610 --> 01:20:26.940 robertthibodeau: A temp I think it is a creation and. 708 01:20:31.200 --> 01:20:41.730 robertthibodeau: The shuttle service Jim they talked about your shuttle service a bunch of times in here is in thing right we're supposed to get a city ride and La dot smart shuttles and. 709 01:20:42.270 --> 01:20:48.870 robertthibodeau: All of that there's also mentioned, of a non vehicular transportation, so that I can say. 710 01:20:49.620 --> 01:21:03.870 robertthibodeau: You know the things that are coming up right now with the ocean front walk committee sort of were loosely tied to this as well, now that we have electric bikes and scooters and stuff but they talk about mostly they talk about physical bikes and this one and improving the bike ways. 711 01:21:04.920 --> 01:21:05.400 robertthibodeau: that's. 712 01:21:07.560 --> 01:21:09.750 robertthibodeau: Probably all in this stuff somewhere. 713 01:21:11.850 --> 01:21:15.120 robertthibodeau: Non motorized there you go so that's what I was talking about. 714 01:21:17.100 --> 01:21:20.310 robertthibodeau: So, so the non motorized again. 715 01:21:22.860 --> 01:21:27.570 robertthibodeau: yeah rights of way bicycles pedestrians blah blah blah blah blah. 716 01:21:31.410 --> 01:21:34.320 robertthibodeau: It talks about the development of parking facilities. 717 01:21:34.920 --> 01:21:44.940 robertthibodeau: In my mind when I read this reminded me of sort of what third street Santa Monica did with building the big centralized parking facilities, I don't see where you're going to do that and Venice and then there's. 718 01:21:45.240 --> 01:21:52.140 robertthibodeau: there's the bridge house lot would have been a possibility for something like that that's probably water under the bridge house at this point. 719 01:21:53.880 --> 01:21:54.390 robertthibodeau: and 720 01:21:55.830 --> 01:21:56.700 robertthibodeau: You know smiles. 721 01:21:57.930 --> 01:21:58.920 alyson_wilson: Was muted, but I really. 722 01:21:58.950 --> 01:22:00.780 robertthibodeau: like that, thank you, that was good right. 723 01:22:01.170 --> 01:22:16.890 robertthibodeau: And then you know there's the median lots were jim's got his stuff there's you know, maybe a couple spots, I remember dawn from house talked about trying to do a parking structure behind Abbot kinney TIM complicated because of the width so i'm not really sure that. 724 01:22:17.850 --> 01:22:18.240 robertthibodeau: I have. 725 01:22:19.380 --> 01:22:22.230 alyson_wilson: A highlight there for you would be beach parking. 726 01:22:23.130 --> 01:22:23.640 robertthibodeau: mm hmm. 727 01:22:24.330 --> 01:22:25.380 alyson_wilson: be right that we could. 728 01:22:25.440 --> 01:22:26.730 alyson_wilson: Add parking density. 729 01:22:28.590 --> 01:22:32.010 robertthibodeau: beach park is always good right in what way. 730 01:22:32.850 --> 01:22:41.910 alyson_wilson: Well, you were saying out in parking density like there's opportunities to make parking structures to get some of the beach parking closer to the beach parking lots. 731 01:22:43.230 --> 01:22:44.730 robertthibodeau: Again, you know the. 732 01:22:45.960 --> 01:22:54.180 robertthibodeau: The median one both the median lot seemed like there would have been possibilities, you know, the one that they're planning the what is it. 733 01:22:55.110 --> 01:23:01.410 robertthibodeau: No longer the restated since I think you're going to change the name on that that seemed like one possibility for additional parking. 734 01:23:01.830 --> 01:23:11.370 robertthibodeau: as did the library, you know lots by the library and stuff but again I don't know if that's Community priorities to have a bunch of big parking lots everywhere they're not the prettiest thing in the world. 735 01:23:13.170 --> 01:23:18.930 robertthibodeau: And who knows you know again i'm not really a proponent of one or the other i'm just trying to read what. 736 01:23:19.110 --> 01:23:19.740 alyson_wilson: What no. 737 01:23:19.890 --> 01:23:26.580 alyson_wilson: I understand i'm reading what i'm reading into it too is the public space that is in my section following and. 738 01:23:28.050 --> 01:23:31.230 alyson_wilson: You know, there are there are sometimes opportunities to like. 739 01:23:32.460 --> 01:23:38.700 alyson_wilson: You know, put four stories of parking and then you got to park in the others, but you know, like you can kind of create. 740 01:23:39.240 --> 01:23:48.480 alyson_wilson: Those opportunities and and getting the birds are so impacted right now by beach parking and if the residents could get some. 741 01:23:50.130 --> 01:23:56.340 alyson_wilson: permitted parking when there's adequate beach parking That would be a benefit to the Community as well. 742 01:23:56.730 --> 01:24:03.480 robertthibodeau: yeah so let me, let me keep rolling I mean, these are all discussions that I think we will have more in depth. 743 01:24:04.050 --> 01:24:10.560 robertthibodeau: When we've got the full when we have john you know, and I, maybe we need to devote an entire meeting you know to. 744 01:24:11.250 --> 01:24:19.740 robertthibodeau: to sort of this would you know figure it's going to be solid hour if this stuff again i'd like to keep all these meetings to about two hours you know. 745 01:24:20.220 --> 01:24:26.580 robertthibodeau: And i'd like to check out by nine I don't mean to be rude or terse on any of this stuff if it needs to be longer it needs to be longer but. 746 01:24:27.210 --> 01:24:38.220 robertthibodeau: You know this is a voluntary committee and I would like to update this stuff because I do find some of it seems to be somewhat archaic and we do have new issues and so again. 747 01:24:38.940 --> 01:24:41.700 robertthibodeau: So that's that's what a lot of this stuff is talking about. 748 01:24:42.510 --> 01:24:49.380 robertthibodeau: I frankly, also with the parking and a lot of this stuff talking about like beautification of parking structures and parking lots. 749 01:24:49.770 --> 01:25:08.790 robertthibodeau: In a dense area like Venice and having been one on advocating for many years, always felt sort of the planted ways adjacent to the parking lots there should do we really need like a planted parking buffer or just prefer more spaces there, I mean this is an urban environment. 750 01:25:10.650 --> 01:25:22.830 robertthibodeau: seems more like a suburban kind of mini mall ish sort of ideology of parking to me, but again to be discussed, maybe it's good idea, but I always thought, those were sort of a waste of space and poorly maintained. 751 01:25:23.160 --> 01:25:26.310 james murez: You know, Robert just because you're on that topic, let me, let me say. 752 01:25:26.850 --> 01:25:27.090 robertthibodeau: You know. 753 01:25:27.150 --> 01:25:37.980 james murez: You you have you have gone through so many items here, starting from you don't notice any gateway to Venice, but this document was written after I planted the trees on Venice boulevard. 754 01:25:38.190 --> 01:25:39.480 robertthibodeau: And the ladies we love. 755 01:25:39.690 --> 01:25:40.290 james murez: And the lesson. 756 01:25:40.530 --> 01:25:50.880 james murez: plan then adoptive the tree planting as the ceremonial gateway to Venice beach so and then you look at the at the parking lot where the farmers market is. 757 01:25:51.300 --> 01:26:02.850 james murez: It you could not add a third row of parking or one more role parking but you were able to add landscaping so having lance's same thing is true on electric. 758 01:26:03.240 --> 01:26:11.220 james murez: right was parking lots are I mean you're just making some some huge statements and you know they're there actually is a tremendous benefit. 759 01:26:11.430 --> 01:26:24.450 james murez: To landscaping you don't have that, for instance at the lot it rose and main which is not illegal parking lot under the city standards as being a parking lot, nor was a coastal development permit ever pulled to create it. 760 01:26:25.110 --> 01:26:30.360 james murez: is something that somebody threw out there, so I mean you know the take it one one piece, at a time. 761 01:26:30.420 --> 01:26:34.020 robertthibodeau: One piece, at a time got it okay um. 762 01:26:36.150 --> 01:26:37.590 robertthibodeau: This is all again. 763 01:26:38.610 --> 01:26:47.040 robertthibodeau: parking as, as you know, this was the previous speaker, right here this got cut through you know he's talking about cut through speed bumps. 764 01:26:48.600 --> 01:27:01.260 robertthibodeau: There were certain specific things that were suggested in here, and maybe we should think about some of those I think one of them was like a designated left hand turn arrow at rose, I noticed that a lot of these hadn't actually ever happened. 765 01:27:02.790 --> 01:27:03.810 robertthibodeau: But there was. 766 01:27:05.160 --> 01:27:06.780 robertthibodeau: They did actually have specific. 767 01:27:08.070 --> 01:27:16.080 robertthibodeau: Specific implementation type stuff signal ization yada yada yada yada so we could look at some of that stuff too. 768 01:27:17.250 --> 01:27:21.480 robertthibodeau: I highlighted this freeways and street improvements. 769 01:27:22.620 --> 01:27:36.840 robertthibodeau: One, the only thing I could think of that was really applicable because we don't really have a free way in, but we have Venice boulevard don't jump on me Kim I know what i'm talking about we've got Venice boulevard which is highway whatever and. 770 01:27:38.520 --> 01:27:46.770 robertthibodeau: The there is currently sort of a district belong there that might not might apply in here. 771 01:27:47.850 --> 01:27:52.770 robertthibodeau: that's quasi public private and and we can take a position sort of. 772 01:27:53.640 --> 01:28:09.510 robertthibodeau: As to whether we see that, as you know, an extension of the private lots which it seems to slowly be happening or if there was a broadband thing like you know, a pair of course or something you know along there, maybe you know I don't know what anyways. 773 01:28:13.530 --> 01:28:25.920 robertthibodeau: So residential neighborhood protection here's all these providing exclusive left is what I was talking about says like provide additional northbound left hand turns and. 774 01:28:26.760 --> 01:28:35.940 robertthibodeau: All of that that were more specific than policy thing so it's actually a little surprised to see him in here because I would expect us to sort of follow up but. 775 01:28:38.610 --> 01:28:45.150 robertthibodeau: And then there were things on the street widening to I saw actually in here conflicting stuff both arguing for. 776 01:28:46.200 --> 01:28:59.400 robertthibodeau: The mobility plan and the widening of streets and then they're specifically in here that the the nearest preacher part of the Venice character, and so the street widening stuff is in here as well, and maybe we want to look at where that's written. 777 01:29:00.750 --> 01:29:01.590 robertthibodeau: By guys. 778 01:29:03.000 --> 01:29:11.940 robertthibodeau: And then the last thing on here that I saw was in the list of historic stuff. 779 01:29:13.320 --> 01:29:14.100 robertthibodeau: We have. 780 01:29:16.080 --> 01:29:28.800 robertthibodeau: the Windward APP historic arcade district, and that right now is up for grabs as a pedestrian way, and there are several areas along the ocean for a walk where they're considering. 781 01:29:29.370 --> 01:29:45.840 robertthibodeau: sort of pedestrian only when we're being one of them, and again, you know, maybe this is a document that we kind of want to review the reinforce that are not reinforce it if we should open it to comment board and public comment and again not taking a personal position on that yet. 782 01:29:47.220 --> 01:29:55.980 robertthibodeau: This is also a general stuff that coastal access and shoreline access should be reinforced, which I, you know I of course think that that's. 783 01:29:57.450 --> 01:30:03.180 robertthibodeau: You know shuttles to the beach stuff like that biking. 784 01:30:05.580 --> 01:30:08.070 robertthibodeau: Think we're sorta reaching. 785 01:30:11.190 --> 01:30:14.010 robertthibodeau: to sing new developments, should be served by roads. 786 01:30:15.420 --> 01:30:16.710 robertthibodeau: that's really an issue. 787 01:30:18.420 --> 01:30:24.600 robertthibodeau: billboards came up before I think we had a billboard case we want to further that. 788 01:30:26.910 --> 01:30:30.060 james murez: Or let me just remind you that you've been on this now for 15 minutes. 789 01:30:30.240 --> 01:30:30.690 robertthibodeau: Okay. 790 01:30:30.810 --> 01:30:33.840 james murez: let's wrap it up, then you have you have to rack motions, you said. 791 01:30:34.290 --> 01:30:35.610 robertthibodeau: That to rack motions. 792 01:30:37.440 --> 01:30:42.150 robertthibodeau: Non motorized transportation so i'm taking on guys going as fast again. 793 01:30:44.280 --> 01:30:45.810 robertthibodeau: Urban design stuff. 794 01:30:49.890 --> 01:30:53.940 robertthibodeau: driveway access, a lot of stuff with that speed bumps. 795 01:30:58.560 --> 01:30:58.860 robertthibodeau: What else. 796 01:30:58.890 --> 01:31:02.460 james murez: I will just point out to you I don't know if you ever noticed or not, but. 797 01:31:03.630 --> 01:31:16.110 james murez: This document was never certified by the coastal Commission and it was pretty much created in a bubble in the planning department was very, very little Community participation in this document. 798 01:31:16.620 --> 01:31:16.950 yeah. 799 01:31:18.300 --> 01:31:28.260 robertthibodeau: Well, hopefully, this is useful, I mean we kind of see what the document is made of all distribute the stuff with the highlights, you know I apologize if I missed anything in there, I tried to go through as quick as I could. 800 01:31:29.010 --> 01:31:35.610 robertthibodeau: and get that I think this that was pretty much it, so I made it through there in five minutes of overtime. 801 01:31:36.930 --> 01:31:52.410 james murez: Maybe the thing to do is to just talk about in future meetings just put an agenda item on you're going to talk about this page or this paragraph and and you know put one or two of them on each agenda and then and then work your way through it. 802 01:31:53.160 --> 01:31:58.860 robertthibodeau: I like it, I like it, I just wanted to get the ball rolling, and I appreciate you guys being patient with me, you know and. 803 01:32:00.450 --> 01:32:09.000 robertthibodeau: The you know the other The other option is just not to do anything, and then we don't have any we don't have any Community input, these are our streets and street lighting and. 804 01:32:09.630 --> 01:32:19.200 robertthibodeau: And driveway accesses and parking issues and stuff like that I think we should take a shot at it, you know i'd rather i'd rather give it a shot and then not and. 805 01:32:19.740 --> 01:32:31.260 robertthibodeau: You know we're parking transportation, you should get some T shirts made up to PTC T shirts okay rack Jim you want to lead racks can you read the comments on the Rack stuff. 806 01:32:31.740 --> 01:32:36.660 james murez: Why don't you go ahead and share the Rack motion Somebody needs to make the motion and then. 807 01:32:37.530 --> 01:32:43.950 robertthibodeau: I don't know if I have the link for it but i'm going to find it OK so i'm going to i'm going to stop sharing for a second. 808 01:32:44.010 --> 01:32:45.150 james murez: The on your agenda. 809 01:32:45.330 --> 01:32:46.170 robertthibodeau: yeah they are. 810 01:32:46.320 --> 01:32:47.220 james murez: Okay, there you go. 811 01:32:47.850 --> 01:32:48.960 robertthibodeau: hold on one second. 812 01:32:50.880 --> 01:32:54.000 robertthibodeau: was to close that window. 813 01:32:56.280 --> 01:32:57.030 robertthibodeau: open. 814 01:33:01.590 --> 01:33:06.600 robertthibodeau: I don't know why turn black and then we're going to screen share. 815 01:33:07.710 --> 01:33:09.630 robertthibodeau: And we're going to go to. 816 01:33:10.980 --> 01:33:11.490 That one. 817 01:33:13.140 --> 01:33:19.170 james murez: You know selena is really the one to be able to do that because she's actually on rack transportation. 818 01:33:23.520 --> 01:33:25.080 robertthibodeau: Yes. 819 01:33:25.110 --> 01:33:26.220 james murez: let's see if we can get through. 820 01:33:27.060 --> 01:33:35.970 robertthibodeau: Well, I don't have the I have the motion, I have the items, but I don't have the motion in front of me I looked at over briefly but. 821 01:33:40.140 --> 01:33:42.360 james murez: Did you post, the motion on the agenda. 822 01:33:44.370 --> 01:33:55.140 robertthibodeau: I thought we posted the links to it on here, and let me look, I think I might be on the wrong thing i'm pretty sure I posted the links on here to this motion. 823 01:33:57.030 --> 01:33:59.340 robertthibodeau: Motion there we go there's number one. 824 01:34:05.460 --> 01:34:07.470 robertthibodeau: what's this one right. 825 01:34:08.850 --> 01:34:10.050 robertthibodeau: Did I hit the right one. 826 01:34:13.530 --> 01:34:14.670 robertthibodeau: let's see city clerk. 827 01:34:41.010 --> 01:34:43.440 james murez: what's the name of it because i'm on racks website. 828 01:34:45.780 --> 01:34:51.450 robertthibodeau: With their CV master plan which there is a there is a link to it so. 829 01:34:52.260 --> 01:34:54.120 james murez: I just want to see what the due dates are. 830 01:34:54.360 --> 01:34:59.340 robertthibodeau: it's the Council file dash oh eight nine know if that helps. 831 01:34:59.700 --> 01:35:01.710 james murez: Anyone dash oh. 832 01:35:04.020 --> 01:35:05.850 james murez: there's no 2108 anything. 833 01:35:07.740 --> 01:35:10.920 robertthibodeau: When you 21 it says says here in the city for connect. 834 01:35:13.560 --> 01:35:15.630 james murez: 21 dash oh one. 835 01:35:16.650 --> 01:35:17.730 robertthibodeau: Oh hey here it is. 836 01:35:19.080 --> 01:35:20.460 james murez: What what's the title of it. 837 01:35:25.080 --> 01:35:25.710 robertthibodeau: how's that. 838 01:35:29.400 --> 01:35:30.540 Change screens. 839 01:35:31.830 --> 01:35:32.940 robertthibodeau: Can you see my screen. 840 01:35:33.900 --> 01:35:36.630 james murez: Oh wait 90 but you said that it's a rack motion. 841 01:35:39.030 --> 01:35:41.550 robertthibodeau: motion is to support this all. 842 01:35:49.440 --> 01:35:53.610 james murez: I think that that may be an old potion it's not a pending motion. 843 01:35:55.470 --> 01:36:03.090 james murez: I don't remember sending it to you and I guess that's why i'm wondering how did you publish it on your agenda, can you bring up your agenda, so we can see what yeah. 844 01:36:06.270 --> 01:36:08.610 robertthibodeau: It looks like rack had a CIS. 845 01:36:09.540 --> 01:36:10.890 robertthibodeau: issued in September. 846 01:36:10.980 --> 01:36:12.300 james murez: gotta let it sit still. 847 01:36:13.980 --> 01:36:18.360 james murez: yeah, so this is already a month behind they already closed this one, I believe. 848 01:36:20.250 --> 01:36:20.760 james murez: I don't know. 849 01:36:20.940 --> 01:36:27.810 james murez: I don't I don't see anything about it on there, bring that back up again, because that the Council file number was different I believe. 850 01:36:32.310 --> 01:36:33.420 james murez: Can you share that rubber. 851 01:36:35.430 --> 01:36:37.050 robertthibodeau: look to see, yes, Jim. 852 01:36:39.930 --> 01:36:42.000 robertthibodeau: let's see let's. 853 01:36:44.730 --> 01:36:45.810 Go take a prostitute. 854 01:37:13.980 --> 01:37:14.160 robertthibodeau: hey. 855 01:37:15.210 --> 01:37:20.100 robertthibodeau: Now you're gonna see how a nap damn it i'm doing this stuff so it's getting. 856 01:37:27.060 --> 01:37:27.750 robertthibodeau: Close. 857 01:37:29.370 --> 01:37:34.830 james murez: yeah you know what you need to just postpone these because I don't find it on. 858 01:37:36.870 --> 01:37:39.750 james murez: I think that this was sent to you guys like two months ago. 859 01:37:41.670 --> 01:37:46.680 james murez: And I think that those have already know, let me just see I can go to the racks website and see if this was a prior emotion. 860 01:37:51.660 --> 01:37:54.570 james murez: it's not in pending, and the only other ones are adopted. 861 01:38:06.450 --> 01:38:09.480 james murez: doesn't come up there either i'm not sure what the story is with. 862 01:38:27.150 --> 01:38:37.680 james murez: Oh wait, we hear the question proof signage and enforcement of ev charging station so that's something different, we already voted on that one We supported that. 863 01:38:41.610 --> 01:38:46.530 james murez: yeah I don't see anything here, Robert on either their current site. 864 01:38:48.390 --> 01:38:52.230 james murez: or their past site so i'm not sure where that came from. 865 01:38:53.310 --> 01:38:59.040 robertthibodeau: That was sent to me it was sent to me these motions rack motions were sent to me by leaks. 866 01:38:59.820 --> 01:39:00.360 robertthibodeau: By oh. 867 01:39:01.380 --> 01:39:01.680 robertthibodeau: yeah. 868 01:39:02.760 --> 01:39:07.770 robertthibodeau: And I think the Rack motion was to support an unfortunate closed out the window when I had that open. 869 01:39:07.860 --> 01:39:11.370 james murez: So I don't know why elites would be sending you rack motions. 870 01:39:11.910 --> 01:39:15.420 robertthibodeau: What sits on racket she thought that might be of interest, do I see. 871 01:39:15.450 --> 01:39:15.900 robertthibodeau: I think she was. 872 01:39:16.320 --> 01:39:17.970 james murez: Not on transportation. 873 01:39:19.230 --> 01:39:27.450 james murez: Anyway, look these aren't these aren't on racks site today, so you ought to just finish off your agenda and skip these things. 874 01:39:29.430 --> 01:39:30.780 james murez: So Okay, he. 875 01:39:31.560 --> 01:39:35.640 james murez: there's no legal sta P one and we just see if that's on wreck side. 876 01:39:44.970 --> 01:39:48.720 james murez: And just so you're aware of it, Robert I should be the one sending rack things. 877 01:39:50.880 --> 01:40:06.630 james murez: If the Rack board doesn't there's nothing on here for St API there if the Rack board does not approve a committees motion they don't get forwarded to the rest of the neighborhood Councils. 878 01:40:07.890 --> 01:40:15.720 james murez: And because i'm on that board I don't remember either of these two motions coming before us and i've been to every rack meeting. 879 01:40:16.860 --> 01:40:18.300 james murez: Since I became President. 880 01:40:19.500 --> 01:40:20.250 james murez: So i'm not sure. 881 01:40:20.340 --> 01:40:20.970 robertthibodeau: I don't think any. 882 01:40:21.000 --> 01:40:23.520 robertthibodeau: Any damage to the universe, is going to be done if we. 883 01:40:23.520 --> 01:40:24.900 robertthibodeau: don't know I just a nice thing. 884 01:40:24.960 --> 01:40:27.780 james murez: i'm just no big simply don't know what they are. 885 01:40:28.530 --> 01:40:31.200 robertthibodeau: Well, one one was the street, the. 886 01:40:32.340 --> 01:40:42.240 robertthibodeau: street furniture program and then the other one was the had something to do with the ev master plan coordinating with dwp and I did read them. 887 01:40:44.130 --> 01:40:45.480 Nick Antonicello: No motion was mainly. 888 01:40:45.480 --> 01:40:46.230 Nick Antonicello: go on. 889 01:40:46.770 --> 01:40:48.480 robertthibodeau: yeah let's let's move on and. 890 01:40:49.620 --> 01:40:58.470 robertthibodeau: Do let's move on to number 13 which is does anybody have any items, not on the agenda did like talk about Nick allison. 891 01:41:00.330 --> 01:41:07.620 robertthibodeau: Seeing on i'm gonna make make motion to adjourn this meeting, or whatever we do that, during the meeting. 892 01:41:10.650 --> 01:41:18.930 robertthibodeau: Thanks guys sorry I was a little unorganized there you know john's really better at this stuff than me some of it, I mean i'm good at following up with people but he's really the one who's. 893 01:41:19.170 --> 01:41:26.550 robertthibodeau: Better with the wheels of steel stuff and he unfortunately had a family emergency, so we wish him the best in his absence and. 894 01:41:27.900 --> 01:41:34.020 robertthibodeau: And I would have I would have had these links, had I known I was I didn't know until. 895 01:41:34.380 --> 01:41:37.140 james murez: This after Robert before you adjourn the meeting. 896 01:41:37.230 --> 01:41:48.630 james murez: chest and for protocol item 13 you do have one attendee with their hand up and we have to assume that the attendee wanted to speak on that i'm. 897 01:41:48.630 --> 01:42:00.270 robertthibodeau: Sorry i'm sorry I didn't attendee number 713 I apologize, I did not see your hand was up before now i'm seeing it let's call on them do you mind doing that Jim. 898 01:42:00.480 --> 01:42:03.150 james murez: yeah no go ahead 713 go ahead and. 899 01:42:05.790 --> 01:42:08.040 james murez: You have the floor, go ahead and speak. 900 01:42:09.570 --> 01:42:17.790 1561****713: hi Thank you this is your unhealthy neighbor and I noticed that you guys were talking about. 901 01:42:18.630 --> 01:42:27.360 1561****713: Including the business owners near the parking spaces that we're going to possibly be removed and I just wanted to. 902 01:42:28.230 --> 01:42:44.070 1561****713: address the hypocrisy of trying to do outreach to those property owners, but not the rv owners, that you are strategizing to display I know there's 2000 on house people in Venice it's the second largest. 903 01:42:45.150 --> 01:42:55.710 1561****713: population in La the largest homeless population in La skid row is denied its own neighborhood Council in 2017 so we're historically silenced. 904 01:42:56.340 --> 01:43:06.690 1561****713: By empower la and there's no other unhealthy people here representing those are owners or inhabitants and you guys really like you talking about. 905 01:43:07.470 --> 01:43:17.010 1561****713: Community outreach or involvement, or whatever like it's really hypocritical if you don't actually mean that for everyone, I had to use like a whole power bank just to talk to you guys tonight. 906 01:43:17.310 --> 01:43:24.420 1561****713: and make sure that somebody was at least present for us the unhappiest people of Los Angeles and Venice beach Thank you. 907 01:43:25.200 --> 01:43:25.740 robertthibodeau: Thank you. 908 01:43:26.370 --> 01:43:28.530 james murez: Thank you now, you can adjourn. 909 01:43:29.850 --> 01:43:30.330 robertthibodeau: Okay. 910 01:43:30.450 --> 01:43:31.590 james murez: I don't see any other hands up. 911 01:43:32.640 --> 01:43:36.420 robertthibodeau: Then i'm going to adjourn this meeting thanks thanks everybody for your patience. 912 01:43:36.750 --> 01:43:39.690 robertthibodeau: Thank you, Robert okay see you next time bye. 913 01:43:41.940 --> 01:43:43.590 james murez: don't forget Robert oh too late. 914 01:43:45.360 --> 01:43:45.720 james murez: tonight.