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james murez: vicki can you hear me.

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Vicki Halliday: I, yes, I can.

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james murez: Okay do me a favor make me co host now.

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Vicki Halliday: Okay, I think he just made me a panelist i'm not a Co host.

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james murez: Well, it says over here your host hi.

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james murez: i'm your host at this point.

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Vicki Halliday: So i'm going to make you a what.

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james murez: A co host.

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Vicki Halliday: There you go.

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james murez: There perfect.

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james murez: Great and now I can exit the meeting and you still have control.

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Vicki Halliday: yeah um yeah what we used to what I did that was actually pretty efficient he would sign it over and then you know I could text him or anybody could.

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james murez: We can do that too to me cuz i'm not going to be home out but i've installed zoom on my cell phone so if my computer.

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james murez: crashes like it did yesterday.

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james murez: yeah i'll be able to restart things from my cell phone.

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Vicki Halliday: Oh cool okay yeah so i'll just promote frank to a Co host when he gets in and.

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james murez: And I see Noel is there already so I don't know if she's on your committee or not, but.

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Vicki Halliday: She isn't yeah.

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james murez: she's either.

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Vicki Halliday: appreciate it.

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james murez: Look go frank frank.

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Vicki Halliday: frank.

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Vicki Halliday: And more promote the panelist.

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james murez: And then, once he becomes panelists, then you can promote them to be co host.

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Vicki Halliday: yeah and that way that way, if your connection was to drop out.

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james murez: Well, I don't know I think that's, the problem is the host drops out you lose the everybody loses the call.

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Vicki Halliday: yeah I mean that's i've never seen that really happen.

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james murez: And it happened it's happened once already that i'm aware of, but i've started a lot more meetings that you bring yeah.

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frank murphy: You guys.

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james murez: I frank alright so i'm going to i'm going to sign off on that you guys have your meeting.

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james murez: Okay i'm still going to be here.

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james murez: And then, and then on in post production i'll edit everything off before the actual meeting starts do me a favor, by the way, if you could, are you going to be passing the emotions.

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frank murphy: Now about tonight.

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james murez: No, no, emotions on your agenda at all.

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james murez: Now alright, so if there's any if there's any any.

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james murez: Petty call it.

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james murez: topics that you want to remember for later on, to be able to highlight.

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Vicki Halliday: Right.

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james murez: Or is your YouTube recording.

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james murez: yeah keep track of the time of when that highlight occurs.

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james murez: Okay timeline so like right now it's.

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james murez: it's 648 you just write down Jim just said xyz at 648.

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Vicki Halliday: Right yeah.

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Vicki Halliday: we've only got one topic tonight so everything should revolve around that once we get beyond public comment.

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frank murphy: Okay, but are they are the meetings all.

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frank murphy: recorded so.

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frank murphy: Yes, okay.

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james murez: But there's a way of very quickly being able to get back to the point in time.

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frank murphy: anyways yeah.

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frank murphy: What.

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james murez: You just telling.

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james murez: You can tell it automatically in the URL that you want to send us somebody skip forward one hour and 37 minutes.

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james murez: And we'll skip forward exactly to that point where that part of the conversation.

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james murez: So it's very handy to have that hey, we have to talk about those brace frame things you have in your background their.

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frank murphy: race from.

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james murez: That read both holding up that that beam I have a project I need to ask about that.

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frank murphy: Oh that's just decorative yes it's just decorative.

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james murez: yeah nice decorations.

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frank murphy: For you know for contractor you gotta do crap like.

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frank murphy: That I know somebody that.

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james murez: That wants a carport made up.

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frank murphy: Oh, there you go yeah yeah yeah all right.

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james murez: Good all right bye for now.

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Vicki Halliday: Okay, thank you.

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frank murphy: Take care of June.

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frank murphy: So you got it.

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Vicki Halliday: yeah we're all good um.

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frank murphy: Are you frozen.

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No i'm sorry.

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frank murphy: you're freezing reality.

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Vicki Halliday: there's been too much going on here.

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Vicki Halliday: Has her.

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Vicki Halliday: New well you've got your hand up.

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Vicki Halliday: Noel.

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Vicki Halliday: Is there something we'd help you with before the meeting starts.

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Vicki Halliday: Right, let me promote you to.

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Vicki Halliday: Co host.

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Vicki Halliday: Great.

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frank murphy: I was thinking about just.

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frank murphy: Throwing in some stuff let's see here I guess there's a cherry for that could throw in some some some data, but I don't know if that's necessary or not.

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Vicki Halliday: I I keep it simple tonight.

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Vicki Halliday: Now yeah.

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frank murphy: Not a problem.

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frank murphy: So I pat pat's tab Scott, the.

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frank murphy: he's.

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frank murphy: Everybody said there were, I think everybody said they were going to be here.

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Vicki Halliday: Okay, good.

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frank murphy: So that was the end I just sent out about about you know half an hour ago, just to notice to wake everybody up.

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frank murphy: steam and need to call me.

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frank murphy: Let me call him right.

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Vicki Halliday: yeah call Stan.

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Vicki Halliday: I watch for people coming in they're not going to be certainly.

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frank murphy: Do I see the list of people I don't see it.

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Vicki Halliday: You should be able to.

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frank murphy: yeah yeah I can see it yeah yeah there it is okay.

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frank murphy: So is it just has one attendee Stan.

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frank murphy: Stan where yeah.

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frank murphy: Answering right now.

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Vicki Halliday: Keep texting.

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frank murphy: yeah.

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frank murphy: noticing i'll send out a text and put the put the put the verbiage in there and then I don't press and then go on to the next one.

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frank murphy: wasting my time.

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frank murphy: So Liz will be here.

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frank murphy: Ryan op here.

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frank murphy: cool that didn't respond Clark will be here karsh number doesn't have a.

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frank murphy: he's a landline so you can't leave messages for him.

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frank murphy: Brian says, I can hardly wait.

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frank murphy: So you hold up okay.

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Vicki Halliday: In a crazy day but fine yeah.

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Vicki Halliday: That rain caused all sorts of problems appear to last night.

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frank murphy: yeah oh did it get didn't nail you pretty bad.

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Vicki Halliday: Well, all the storm drains were clogs that we've got a sewage smell for a few hours that was overpowering.

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frank murphy: Oh that's what that was yeah I was like I was down, I was at the CVs pharmacy and I.

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frank murphy: Thought oh man there's something not right around here.

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Vicki Halliday: It was all the way to speedway from me.

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Vicki Halliday: But you know I took pictures out here, the one that sunset main was totally clogged.

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Vicki Halliday: But some of that is just sanitation not street sleeping properly.

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Vicki Halliday: You know, but.

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Vicki Halliday: The but not suit but not the sewer.

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Vicki Halliday: Well, it just not draining and what happens, I think that what could have happened is that a lot of the rv is on main i'm decided to do a little dump yesterday with all the rain thinking of this will wash it all away.

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frank murphy: No.

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Vicki Halliday: Longer yeah yeah.

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Vicki Halliday: cuz I know that you know, like the big storm drain it rose in the parking lot you know out that little period that desperately needs to be cleaned and park and REC.

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Vicki Halliday: Miss their schedule, they were supposed to be out of the 15th and do it, and then yesterday down there was just a disaster.

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frank murphy: parks and recs does that.

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Vicki Halliday: I mean counting.

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frank murphy: Oh yeah.

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Vicki Halliday: vicious you know they they have scheduled they don't meet them and then you know big rain happens and it's pretty bad.

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frank murphy: yeah yeah.

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frank murphy: But the sewage is separate and I know we always have a lot of problems with that sewer line going down.

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frank murphy: ocean front walk they had to come after clear that pretty regular.

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Vicki Halliday: yeah Well, we know pull them up between speedway and Pacific was just in totally ripped up so they could be placed the mains there, the main sewer lines.

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Vicki Halliday: hmm and they did some work here at sunset, but I think this was mostly storm grunge stuff.

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Vicki Halliday: So Saturday sing like it was very successful.

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frank murphy: yeah.

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frank murphy: I was.

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frank murphy: Oh, I didn't I didn't put out an invite to Dexter but I didn't have him on our.

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frank murphy: Meeting saying okay I.

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Vicki Halliday: Probably send them to Tristan now anyway.

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Vicki Halliday: yeah.

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frank murphy: yeah no I thought I thought it went pretty well, I was some.

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frank murphy: We you know I thought it was a pretty good turnout.

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frank murphy: And one of the problems was.

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frank murphy: There was a funeral in the in the you know, in the in standing in now mommy's group and and it cut down a lot of participants yeah so we did get you know we didn't get the participation and you know I think we could do another one.

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frank murphy: You know if we can figure out a way to contact people because we did we got a pretty good list from that meeting.

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frank murphy: But.

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frank murphy: doing the outreach was you know was real time consuming, and you know we we can just the whole neighborhood so 900 invites.

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frank murphy: yeah so.

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Vicki Halliday: It was good, I thought that um it was a good mix, I think that.

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Vicki Halliday: You know no amy is so eloquent and her speaking, I think that a lot of people understood some of the history and now every time I see one of those.

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Vicki Halliday: You know, buildings that I know is built for low income, and I know that those entitlements are coming due and now those aren't going to be.

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frank murphy: yeah it's a big problem.

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Vicki Halliday: it's got to be a big problem.

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frank murphy: Was.

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Vicki Halliday: yeah I got her in.

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frank murphy: Know that's going to be a big problem I mean, I think that came up before, and then they resigned them and well, I think, somebody mentioned that that they resigned them and then you know we'll see what happens after that.

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Vicki Halliday: let's see come on here, I think.

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frank murphy: there's Brian all right.

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frank murphy: pastor Brian.

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frank murphy: areas.

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Vicki Halliday: hi hey.

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frank murphy: Doing man.

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frank murphy: Good long time.

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Brian U.: A long time no see.

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Vicki Halliday: I know.

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Brian U.: See there's Elizabeth and I see her fearless.

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Brian U.: yeah i'll have he's on there yep.

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frank murphy: got the heavy.

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Brian U.: Days.

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frank murphy: After heavy.

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frank murphy: All we need.

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frank murphy: pat pat.

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Brian U.: Was.

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Pat Raphael: Oh.

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frank murphy: man.

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Pat Raphael: awesome starbucks.

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frank murphy: Is it cold enough for you.

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Pat Raphael: it's actually really nice nice cool till night.

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frank murphy: She.

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frank murphy: was pretty warm.

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Pat Raphael: yeah it's not it's kind of died down a little bit, even though it does come and go a little bit and I brought a blanket in case it gets chilly.

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frank murphy: There you go.

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frank murphy: All right.

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Pat Raphael: Let me maximize.

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Pat Raphael: I also didn't play well with the battery well, it says five hours and 26 minutes.

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frank murphy: I think that'll.

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Vicki Halliday: Do and you should be fine.

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frank murphy: I sure hope so.

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Pat Raphael: I wouldn't normally charge it to 100% but sometimes that's just an estimate based on usage.

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Pat Raphael: yeah so five hours is.

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Vicki Halliday: Claudia.

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frank murphy: All right.

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Elizabeth Wright: Were you okay during the rain.

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Vicki Halliday: hi Claudia.

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NP Claudia Martin: Promoting me I love it promoted to a panelist I like it.

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Vicki Halliday: can be a.

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frank murphy: Really.

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frank murphy: Really.

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Brian U.: Welcome to a friendly.

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Brian U.: Very good idea.

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NP Claudia Martin: I love it you're.

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Brian U.: Oh, oh it hasn't started yet.

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Brian U.: Now it's great it's great that you're here thanks for for joining us.

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frank murphy: So we're gonna.

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frank murphy: we're going to.

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frank murphy: go through the through the one minute or give another minute or so just to be on the safe side.

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frank murphy: Hopefully we stand said he's going to join.

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frank murphy: And Colette I haven't heard from yet, but we may see her in a.

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frank murphy: Few.

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Vicki Halliday: People watch.

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frank murphy: walk should be around to.

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frank murphy: Various Clark.

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frank murphy: There yeah got it.

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frank murphy: well.

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Brian U.: How many Community Members do we have vicki is it showing her thing.

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Vicki Halliday: level 11 so far.

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Vicki Halliday: yeah i'm.

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frank murphy: 1112 yep.

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Vicki Halliday: yeah um so I need to keep a lookout for Colette and Pakistan, otherwise we're here right yep.

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frank murphy: Alright, so roll call.

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frank murphy: frank Brian pat.

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frank murphy: Okay, so roll call call the order roll call.

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frank murphy: Approval of the agenda anybody object to the agenda.

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Brian U.: I moved I moved to approve the agenda.

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frank murphy: All right.

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frank murphy: All right, no objections.

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frank murphy: we're off and running.

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frank murphy: There were no Minutes of the last meeting.

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frank murphy: No any announcements from anybody.

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frank murphy: chair report will skip for now.

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frank murphy: What i'd like to do real quick and I was hoping that.

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frank murphy: Colette and Stan would be here is we're going to do just sort of a mini introduction because.

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frank murphy: it's a new committee and here we said so what i'd like to do is the folks that are here just introduce yourself for a couple of minutes and then Claudia will will get over to you, right after public comment and then we'll we'll we'll work right into your presentation.

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frank murphy: So you want to start off with la start off with myself i'm frank Murphy i've been involved with Venice.

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frank murphy: Politics, for a long, long time i'm a.

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frank murphy: 45 year.

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frank murphy: resident participant in Venice and.

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frank murphy: A developer did a lot of developing in Venice over the decades and that's who I am and working on the working on the homeless committee has been a has been very, very enlightening and extremely.

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frank murphy: I hope.

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frank murphy: Certainly, influential to me anyhow um anybody yeah vicki.

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Vicki Halliday: vicki Hello day I sit on the the dnc board I was on last time, someone was committee had been very active appear in North business between the boardwalk and I live right by bridge housing so.

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Vicki Halliday: i'm sort of ground zero for a lot of things and it's been very interesting being on this committee and i'll turn it over to Brian off.

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Brian U.: glad to be here and Brian off.

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Brian U.: 17 years here in Venice.

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Brian U.: My career has been in real estate and as of 19 and a half years ago today, I started my journey and sobriety, and so I have a very.

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Brian U.: warm feeling in my heart to go out and help the people that need recovery and mental health that led me to become the board President and Chair of share, which is share self help and recovery exchange, which is.

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Brian U.: Self help support groups, and we also do collaborative housing for homeless and the pattern very successful pilot programs within CD 11 and throughout the city.

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Brian U.: To help with these encampments I also serve on the lapd Advisory Board and i'm among the parent board the ymca metropolitan of Los Angeles, which is the parent board that oversees all 26 ymca is in La.

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Brian U.: And I chaired the.

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Brian U.: Social emotional well being Task Force, which has a lot to do with mental health issues and dealing with the half a million people that come into our ymca is that are struggling coming off the streets.

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Brian U.: That that need a lot of help from the pandemic and and a lot of it has to do with homelessness too so i'm excited to be on the committee this year and for being a valued member of the committee.

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Elizabeth Wright: i'm Elizabeth right I moved to Venice in 1966.

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Elizabeth Wright: and have lived here, ever since.

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Elizabeth Wright: My involvement with the neighborhood Council mostly has been in the elections, trying to make sure that the elections were clean and I served in that capacity until the last election.

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Elizabeth Wright: And currently i'm on the almost Committee and the standing Rules Committee standing rules and bylaws committee.

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Elizabeth Wright: Rules and selections.

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Elizabeth Wright: it's one of these names.

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frank murphy: That.

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Pat Raphael: Everybody my name is.

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Pat Raphael: resident have been here for about eight years or so, and I am a second termer in this committee, I was on the committee for about the second half of its function last time around a.

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Pat Raphael: little bit of a distinction about myself I wasn't the only person who was currently experiencing homelessness as the term is.

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Pat Raphael: That was on the last committee.

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Pat Raphael: Even though I carry the status with me, I never want my conversations or my my actions in the committee.

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Pat Raphael: To ever feel like i'm acting or speaking on behalf of the homeless Community because it's always been a big thing for me to say, if we want to know what homeless people think.

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Pat Raphael: We have to get out there and engage with them in and get them in the conversation, so my participation in the committee has been.

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Pat Raphael: has been something that was appointed, because this has been a topic of my writing I write for the beach and i've been writing for the beach at for quite some years and i've been.

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Pat Raphael: Making the issues of street folks in people who are experiencing homelessness a big part of what I talked about so when it was time to bring somebody into the committee that was also experiencing homelessness.

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Pat Raphael: I I might I came up as as one of the options in here I sit, so I i'm i'm glad that this committee is here, I think there's some important things that we can accomplish in this Community, specifically in the area of.

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Pat Raphael: Bringing a light to the details of how the outcomes got to be how they are so I don't want to take too much time.

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Pat Raphael: I think everybody who was a member, and who was taking time to participate as members of the community and as as fellow Commission members, so thank you guys and i'm going to go off camera for a SEC because i'm on the boardwalk lots of distractions behind me.

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Vicki Halliday: i'm excuse me one second i'm trying to promote you to pamela so you can join us.

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Vicki Halliday: don't decline come on in.

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Vicki Halliday: dining to be panelist so I can't.

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frank murphy: find it to be panelists.

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Brian U.: Sure enough.

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Vicki Halliday: He has maybe Clark could go ahead and i'll keep working on this.

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frank murphy: Okay Clark.

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clark brown: i've lived in Venice since 1969 was on the first Venice town council during the pat Russell era, I practice municipal real property and administrative law for 40 years I retired, about a year and a half ago and became involved and.

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clark brown: Some issues in my neighborhood advocate in the President streets.

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clark brown: I decided to run for the Venice neighborhood Council because I was interested in homelessness issues and so i'm very happy to be on this homelessness committee right like to put my efforts.

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frank murphy: So far I haven't been able to get Colette on.

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Vicki Halliday: yeah I tried she keeps declining so unless you want to call her.

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frank murphy: let's move forward and I will call her.

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frank murphy: On after we move forward.

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frank murphy: um alright so.

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frank murphy: Public comment one minute on non agenda items related to homelessness committee only so we have 15 folks here.

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frank murphy: Any hands up or i'll let you handle that vicki.

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frank murphy: On with us.

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Vicki Halliday: I see one up to up.

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Vicki Halliday: Okay first is P Ruiz.

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Vicki Halliday: Peter.

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Peter RuiZ: Yes.

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Vicki Halliday: Can you hear me your hand up.

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Peter RuiZ: Can you hear me.

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Peter RuiZ: Yes, oh good, good evening everybody I woke up from my nap to attend this meeting i'm so happy to see a homeless committee meeting I myself being homeless about four years ago, I can totally relate to the gentleman on the boardwalk and.

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Peter RuiZ: there's anything I can do with the Venice pure project, I hope to meet all of you a little bit more and that's all I want to say for the one minute and i'll be happy to attend the other meetings.

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Vicki Halliday: Right, thank you, Peter.

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Peter RuiZ: yeah no problem.

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Vicki Halliday: Next up is Lisa redmond.

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Lisa Redmond: hi good evening um I know I have something to say and i've said it a few other places, but I really want to make sure it gets said loud and clear.

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Lisa Redmond: That I understand tensions are high, with homelessness and Venice and people are frustrated, but I want to point out that it is entirely illegal to hire a private firm or an individual to remove encampments.

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Lisa Redmond: It is not right, it causes further trauma and further problems and removes people who sometimes are.

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Lisa Redmond: awaiting housing and then their outreach workers from last St joseph's can't find them because they've been.

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Lisa Redmond: removed illegally by someone else, the only people that can remove encampments our city officials or sanitation or police.

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Lisa Redmond: Not individuals not private security firms, please, please, please don't anybody do that, it is just not the wrong or the right thing to do, it's entirely wrong and it doesn't solve things and it just kicks the can further down the road, thank you for your time.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you Lisa next up Eric Moore.

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Erica Moore: hi.

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Erica Moore: I want to welcome all of you to the Community thanks so much for your service and I just wanted to say, I actually was disappointed that.

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Erica Moore: You guys don't have representation from somebody like Lisa remnant or at least really wanted to be ready and i'll say it's because.

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Erica Moore: This is someone who works with these people tirelessly I think you need to have people at your convenience that are.

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Erica Moore: working alongside the homeless, even though you guys might not always share the same opinion on things I don't always agree with everything that Lisa says.

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Erica Moore: But the bottom line is people who have experience directly with the constituents you're working with I think it's so important.

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Erica Moore: And I just really hope that you guys are able to have some really thought that this this next term, and I hope that all of us in the Community will.

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Erica Moore: use our voices and helped to work together with with these people who belong in our Community, to thank you so much you guys have a great night.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you i'm Marianne.

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Vicki Halliday: Marianne are you there.

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Marianne Liggett: hi yeah I just unmuted can you hear me.

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Marianne Liggett: Well, I signed it on my computer, because I have the zoom APP and I signed it for my husband so i'm i'm going to let him talk because i'm.

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Marianne Liggett: But anyway, I think we should be kind, and I think we should be understanding, but I think that i'm.

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Marianne Liggett: Both the homeless community and the neighbor communities are affected.

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Marianne Liggett: In the same way, and neither is neither side is serving the other and i'm.

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Marianne Liggett: not sure if i'm getting through with what i'm saying here, but I think there's a danger to the basic Community neighborhood and.

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Marianne Liggett: To the homeless problem.

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Marianne Liggett: And their community as well.

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Marianne Liggett: And I think we need to put more efforts or our government needs to put our efforts into mental health.

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Marianne Liggett: Okay.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you Marion.

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Vicki Halliday: you're wrong i'm.

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Vicki Halliday: Okay, are we going to Claudia now.

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frank murphy: We are going to Claudia Claudia Martin is.

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Vicki Halliday: Going i've got a little bio.

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Vicki Halliday: um Claudia is our neighborhood prosecutor assigned to the Pacific division and is the Bureau prosecutor assigned also to West bureau she's a UCLA Grad received her law degree from Loyola she got interested in becoming a prosecutor through volunteer work as a loss.

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Vicki Halliday: And, as a lawyer is worked on everything from nuisance tenants to misdemeanor criminal cases she's been assigned to Pacific division since 2006.

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Vicki Halliday: With a few other divisions in the middle of all those years she's worked with lapd City Council offices and mini city state and federal agencies as well we're really lucky to have such a well rounded prosecutor in our area and look forward to all that she has to say tonight.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank.

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NP Claudia Martin: You so much Thank you so much for the introduction um yes as vicki did mentioned in my bio I have been assigned to Pacific for a very long time, so i'm very lucky in that sense that I get to work with everybody.

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NP Claudia Martin: Just to start for the folks who don't really know who I haven't met or don't really know what our what our program does as a neighborhood prosecutor.

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NP Claudia Martin: i'm actually mbo prosecutor, I am actually assigned to the station which means Pacific division is my home.

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NP Claudia Martin: My station and also my office, so I actually share space with your senior lead officers actually monique is about morning contrary says.

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NP Claudia Martin: Maybe like 10 feet away from me and Adrian acosta's literally like right behind me.

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NP Claudia Martin: So the purpose of that is that, obviously, we are Community based and the best way to figure out what's happening in our Community is to go to meetings like this.

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NP Claudia Martin: And also, by working at the station, hand in hand we're able to address what the Community issues are what the quality of life issues are and we go from there.

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NP Claudia Martin: One of the things that go into the presentation really quick, but as a neighborhood prosecutor, I vertically prosecute my own cases, so what that means is I literally get the cases.

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NP Claudia Martin: lapd goes out there and makes their arrest or citations then they present them to me directly, and then I review them.

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NP Claudia Martin: And then determine what course of action we're going to do if it is that we're going to file a criminal case.

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NP Claudia Martin: One of the things that we do is we work I work very closely with our social service providers, I meet with St Joseph Center every other week.

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NP Claudia Martin: And I meet actually with path for a different part of the division every single week and we actually case conference.

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NP Claudia Martin: And we work together to figure out, you know what not the issues, but what is the overall line and the underlying issues, and then we try to address them, so the outreach that is being done in the field by St joseph's Center by path, if someone who is.

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NP Claudia Martin: Who is arrested who's experienced homelessness has been in contact with these agencies, then what I do is, if I have to file a criminal case.

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NP Claudia Martin: What I do is I work with the providers, and then we weave in whatever outreach is being offered in the field as part of a criminal case.

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NP Claudia Martin: And, most of the time what we end up doing is we end up once the individual is connected to services and is working towards whatever goal, it is that the providers have set for them.

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NP Claudia Martin: Then, a lot of times we end up dismissing these cases, because a lot of times, the purpose of you know, we have these cases is to help the individual, as well as to help the Community, I believe, one of the.

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NP Claudia Martin: members of the public, Marianne I think it was that it's things that affects everyone, so we try to come up with solutions that help all stakeholders.

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NP Claudia Martin: Everybody the how's the how's the business business owners every stakeholder is what we try to do so, the presentation that i'm going to give in a second.

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NP Claudia Martin: Is we noticed, and I say we, I talked about lapd and myself a lot of times we get the same types of calls and same types of emails from Community members, why are you doing this, can you do this.

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NP Claudia Martin: And, but what we realize is there's a lot of changes, obviously, to the law and.

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NP Claudia Martin: What we've noticed a lot of times when I start these Community meetings and Brian you've said it several vicki you as well, and I see carrie, as you know, one of the attendees but is, I asked individuals, how long.

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NP Claudia Martin: Who in this meeting, or whoever has lived in the city of Los Angeles, since at least 2004 so a lot of people will raise their hands like Elizabeth and.

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NP Claudia Martin: Clark, you said you've been living here, since the 60s right so obviously folks don't realize that a lot during that time period last change.

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NP Claudia Martin: there's lawsuits that are filed and things change all Community Members see is well in 2005 if I saw anything that even resembled starting to look like a quote and cabinet.

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NP Claudia Martin: All they had to do, back then, prior to 2005 2006 is a lot of times call lapd the senior lead or call your field deputy and within you know 24 hours miraculously the property, would you know would be gone.

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NP Claudia Martin: And now it's not like that there's a lot of different things that protocols that all these different agencies have to do so, a lot, so the purpose of this presentation and i've given it to from westchester mar vista all over the place, is for folks.

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NP Claudia Martin: To understand exactly who does what and how and why, why is it that they have to you know, things are different.

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NP Claudia Martin: As a neighborhood prosecutor as a prosecutor with the city, obviously I can't give legal advice, so I don't give advice to lapd they have their own lawyers.

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NP Claudia Martin: I don't give advice to Community members, although I do get a lot of emails about that, but i'm like i'm sorry because I can't give legal advice.

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NP Claudia Martin: I simply what I do is I give roll call trainings to lapd and other enforcement agencies to let them know what I would need in a police report in the four corners of a police report.

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NP Claudia Martin: For me, to be able to file a criminal case in court because another thing that folks may not understand is that for lapd to make an arrest, they need to have probable cause.

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NP Claudia Martin: I need to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt if I were to get you know to jury trial, so I would need certain things to be in the report, in order for me to file and that's called role called training.

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NP Claudia Martin: So what we've developed what i've our office our neighborhood prosecutors we've developed.

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NP Claudia Martin: This presentation, where i'm going to give you a little bit of the history, just to go over very quickly, what the cases are and how it affects the laws from today.

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NP Claudia Martin: and basically give you a version of a roll call training, which is what I give the officers.

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NP Claudia Martin: And that way, hopefully we'll leave here with a little more understanding of Oh, I understand I call this agency for this.

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NP Claudia Martin: That Agency for that, because what we've loaded what we've learned through the years and, like I said i've been here since 2006 i've seen it done every which way.

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NP Claudia Martin: is, when all of the agencies, all the pieces of the puzzle are working together is when change for the good happens.

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NP Claudia Martin: When you have one piece working in silos it doesn't necessarily it doesn't you don't see an effect there's really no changed all the agencies need to work together so with that process, I am going to share my screen and then.

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NP Claudia Martin: Okay, can everybody can see my screen.

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NP Claudia Martin: Perfect okay obviously you know where we all know where we are.

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NP Claudia Martin: Today, so these are the relevant court cases, so we will start.

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NP Claudia Martin: The first case that I want to bring up is the Jones case and, obviously, this was a case from 2006.

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NP Claudia Martin: What this case does is be due to the settlement, there was a settlement agreement everybody i'm sharing this call, and the attendees have heard is the Jones settlement right, and so what it did, is it restricted the use of.

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NP Claudia Martin: Which is sleeping on the sidewalk sidewalk not enforceable against individuals from 9pm to 6am.

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NP Claudia Martin: Because the lawsuit was based on if the city doesn't have enough beds to house folks then they should not be prosecuted, because if they don't have anywhere else to be so, as a result of the settlement in the Jones case.

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NP Claudia Martin: subsection D was not enforceable from 9pm to 6am so it changed the enforcement and I do have a little asterisk there because it's recently been changed, which I will go over it.

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NP Claudia Martin: The next case, five years later, so if you notice in Jones in 2006 it was against.

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NP Claudia Martin: It dealt with individuals individuals sleeping out there right, so it limited what you can enforce for individuals in 2011 with the Levon case that back case dealt with property.

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NP Claudia Martin: And this came out of a piece out of skid row and what ended up happening is because of this case in 2011 there's a constitutional protection against the city seizing property and because of Yvonne.

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NP Claudia Martin: 11, which is the law that it restricts or and regulates the storing of personal property on the sidewalk came into play, it was amended.

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NP Claudia Martin: Everybody hears 90 days, it has to be stored from 90 days it came from this case this live on case in 2011 and bulky items at this time from 2011 could be removed and destroyed.

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NP Claudia Martin: Three years after that you have the desert train case in this case is actually from Pacific division actually.

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NP Claudia Martin: And the ninth circuit held that lmt at 502, which is the law that we had in the books for illegal lodging.

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NP Claudia Martin: was unconstitutional, because it was overbroad it was too broad, the code literally said it is unlawful to lodging your vehicle that's it and the ninth circuit held that it was it was too big too broad.

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NP Claudia Martin: So the city rewrote it to restrict lodging in certain areas, and if you guys will remember a couple years ago where there was.

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NP Claudia Martin: Red zones and green zones and yellow zones and if you're in the red zone you couldn't launch at any time if you're in the yellow zone, you can be there lodge during the day, but not at night, and then the green zone.

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NP Claudia Martin: Every you are allowed to do a 24 hours a day that did sunset that code section did sunset Council did not extended so that code is no longer impulse enforceable so as we speak today, there is no law that enforces.

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NP Claudia Martin: makes it unlawful to lodging your vehicle.

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NP Claudia Martin: So a couple years after that you had the Mitchell case may have heard this case again it's another case at a skid row and what this hell, it is a city will not seize property that exceeds 60 gallons outside of a notice cleanup and this affected the skid row area.

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NP Claudia Martin: So, then, the Martin case in.

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NP Claudia Martin: was the case, out of Boise Idaho and the Court held that certain laws which are similar to ours against individuals they could not enforce it.

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NP Claudia Martin: The reason in Boise is folks were offered housing, they were offered shelter.

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NP Claudia Martin: But the problem was with the ninth circuit health is that the housing came with, for instance, if.

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NP Claudia Martin: It was religious based So if you wanted to stay in their shelter in this particular shelter you needed to take some kind of religious courses, so the ninth circuit held that technically that wasn't really a viable housing option.

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NP Claudia Martin: So that's where the Martin case and then here, then you have the Garcia case in 2019 and so we're ended up where is.

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NP Claudia Martin: The city is enjoyed, this is the most recent one of the most recent cases and where the citizen joined from a moving and destroying bulky items if you'll remember back in.

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NP Claudia Martin: The Levant case bulky items were allowed to be destroyed removed and destroyed but in 2019 because of the Garcia case.

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NP Claudia Martin: They could no longer remove and destroy bulky items those items, in addition to all other personal property also had to be stored for 90 days.

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NP Claudia Martin: So the purpose of this which we created this is to see how back, starting in 2006 where the laws and the lawsuits started restricting the laws that can be enforced.

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NP Claudia Martin: And also, when and how property can be removed from streets from sidewalks and public rights away.

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NP Claudia Martin: Now, keep in mind with these code sections which i'll go into very briefly there's a lot of before any property can be removed there's a lot of protocols that have to go through that sanitation, has to do really before items can be removed.

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NP Claudia Martin: and so forth.

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NP Claudia Martin: So this is another question, we have a lot of confusion on is what.

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NP Claudia Martin: I call it the what angel agency handles so the collection and removal of solid materials and waste and illegal dumping and cleanups in and around encampments.

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NP Claudia Martin: That is solely with the department of public works sanitation, so that is the Agency so they handle property like you see in the picture.

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NP Claudia Martin: lapd addresses criminal behavior they issue citations to individuals they do not handle collection and removal of solid materials and waste, so you have lapd who handles.

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NP Claudia Martin: The criminal activity of an individual and then you have sanitation, which handles and follows their protocols to remove the property.

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NP Claudia Martin: So that's how it works, I can get cases, because both of them are technically different investigatory agencies, so I handle cases from lapd.

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NP Claudia Martin: And also, I handle cases that say from the Department of set of from sanitation, if someone is illegally dumping, they can also present cases to me so that's how that works.

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NP Claudia Martin: So 5611 is the store is the code section that I mentioned that in 2011 was amended because of the long case and.

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NP Claudia Martin: 5611 is a storage of property and it has four sections which are technically crimes so it's obstructing the Bureau of sanitation during a cleanup obstructing the Bureau essentially removal of bulky items which that's no longer and play.

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NP Claudia Martin: The next section is the violation it's we call it the tense up between 6am and 9pm after warning and refusal and having wires barriers attachments.

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NP Claudia Martin: again after warning and refusal, so this this code section 5611 lmt does not apply to parks, this is strictly for sidewalks and streets not in parks, they have a completely different section.

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NP Claudia Martin: The tents up between 6am and 9pm that is currently has been suspended since March march of 2020 since the pandemic, and that is not enforceable at this time, because it is suspended.

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NP Claudia Martin: So for.

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NP Claudia Martin: Is no person shall willfully delay.

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NP Claudia Martin: or obstruct city employee from moving and moving and pounding or discarding personal property in public area in violation of sets section three a through ah.

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NP Claudia Martin: What this is is during a cleanup, although the code section does say obstructs city employees from removing the code is very clear and protocols are very clear, the Bureau of sanitation, is the lead agency.

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NP Claudia Martin: So what we need, what they need to do is an order to comply and reasonable amount of time to comply.

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NP Claudia Martin: So the tense up section when it is enforceable if it ever does become enforceable again because right now remember it's not enforceable, because it is suspended, no person she refused to take down or put away.

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NP Claudia Martin: put away the tech between 6am and 9pm or willfully resist the late, a city employee from taking it down.

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NP Claudia Martin: This law is not enforceable if it's raining or if the temperatures below 50 degrees, this is one that we also get a lot of calls about and and there is some confusion.

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NP Claudia Martin: The violation having the Center during these hours is not the violation the violation is refusing to take the tech down.

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NP Claudia Martin: or interfering resisting delaying the Bureau of sanitation from them taking it down, so we do get a lot of calls about this, I see attend to this back when it was enforceable, I see a tense up I see attend to that enough that alone is not the violation.

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NP Claudia Martin: So I always like to make it clear, which is why I have a bold capital and highlighted that that is not the violation.

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NP Claudia Martin: So.

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NP Claudia Martin: has been amended and there's three charging sections 4118 A, B and C and in order, firstly, which we'll get to that is enforceable once the resolution is past.

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NP Claudia Martin: What we like to make it clear Community meetings is for misdemeanor filing of these charges.

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NP Claudia Martin: The report needs to show that the suspect once again willfully resisted delayed or obstructive a city employee from enforcing either one of those sub sections.

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NP Claudia Martin: or willfully refuse to comply, after being requested to do so by an authorized city employee, so these sections are once again.

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NP Claudia Martin: When we give lapd roll call, we obviously go into much more detail, because it is roll call and we provide them the Info as to what we would need to see in the report before we will file, I will tell you.

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NP Claudia Martin: Before from experience when I get these reports.

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NP Claudia Martin: lapd works also closely, without which providers right so before somebody is arrested or cited Whatever the case may be, a lot of outreach is done in the area warnings are given so.

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NP Claudia Martin: All of that information is in the report, so when we follow the report, we can see all the times that individuals have been warned.

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NP Claudia Martin: You know what the resolution was or what the what that situation or the encounter was it's all in the report.

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and go to the next slide.

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NP Claudia Martin: So 4118 eight which is blocking the sidewalk it's no person shall obstructed street sidewalk or other public right of way by sitting lying or sleeping.

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NP Claudia Martin: or by storing using maintaining or placing personal property and within a there are five different sub sections.

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NP Claudia Martin: So a one would be in a manner that impedes passage, as provided by the Ada which is 36 inches so they have to leave, there has to be 36 inches of what space.

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NP Claudia Martin: The next one is within 10 feet of any operational or utilize the driveway or loading dock within five feet of any operational or utilize about building entrance or exit.

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NP Claudia Martin: Within two feet of any fire hydrant fire plug or other fire department connection.

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NP Claudia Martin: And the last one is in a manner that obstructs or unreasonably interferes with the use of the right of way for any activity, for which the city has issued a permit one of the examples that I do give lapd of this situation is.

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NP Claudia Martin: Like a farmers market where the city has issued a permit for a farmers market on the street, the sidewalk Whatever the case may be, and if if I violation, it would be under this section here.

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NP Claudia Martin: For 4118 be is blocking the street is that no person shall obstruct any portion of any street or other public right away, open to us by motor vehicles.

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NP Claudia Martin: or a bike lane so we're a is on the sidewalk be is for areas, specifically where vehicles or bikes can use so like literally in the street or any area where a vehicle can.

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NP Claudia Martin: can use it.

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NP Claudia Martin: See is the new one is the sensitive locations, so this one is only enforceable after a resolution has been passed by city council.

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NP Claudia Martin: And after signage has been put up and only after 14 days after that signage has been placed can this section be enforced and there's different sub sections.

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NP Claudia Martin: So, like I said we call it the general is a sensitive locations, so it would be if a school or a park has been deemed a designated under the section, then you can.

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NP Claudia Martin: Set lie sleep store us maintain any personal property within 500 feet of a sensitive site school park library or up to 500 feet of a designated overpass underpass freeway etc.

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NP Claudia Martin: Up to 1000 feet of a designated facility opened after January 1 2018 so like an abh a shelter sleep sleep see excuse me, safe sleeping or safe parking and the last one is after.

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NP Claudia Martin: passage of a resolution by City Council finding that the location poses a particular an ongoing threat to public health and safety, so if there's another location.

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NP Claudia Martin: that's not a park that's not a school it's not a shelter and it's not a freeway it's some other area if there's certain evidence and criteria, then City Council can pass a resolution under this subsection.

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NP Claudia Martin: And it would be under D, so no person can like I mentioned, no person can be in violation of see unless the City Council passes the resolution specify to.

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NP Claudia Martin: to designate as specified area and the city has posted the signage and at least 14 days have passed from the date the sign was posted.

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NP Claudia Martin: Is when enforcement for for see can begin, so the most important thing is that am we do not need a resolution, those are the criteria but undersea the location, has to be designated via a resolution from Council.

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NP Claudia Martin: parks comes up a lot because, obviously, we have the beach, we have parks like I mentioned earlier.

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NP Claudia Martin: 5611 regulates things that happen on the street and other public rights away la MC 6344 that sub that code section in the La MC and all of its sub sections which is about 30 pages.

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NP Claudia Martin: regulate city parks everything you can and cannot do in city parts will be found in 6344 also they they separate in 6344 parks all parks like like awkward mar vista.

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NP Claudia Martin: westchester Park, and they also distinguish with parts with beaches like Venice beach will Rogers cabrio beach, and they even talk about the del rey lagoon the different hours so everything and anything that you want to do can't do ours is regulated under 6344 and the lmt section.

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NP Claudia Martin: We have a what what agency what agency addresses criminal activity committed individually by individuals in parks.

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NP Claudia Martin: lapd and the park Rangers and with regards to property and tense and cleanups inside of parts that is also via record parks.

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NP Claudia Martin: So once again it's very similar to what happens on the street lapd park Rangers they deal with individuals lapd specifically, obviously with individuals and with regards to the property and the 10th once again lapd does not.

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NP Claudia Martin: Do work with removal, that is, with the Department of REC and parks and a lot of times you'll see the Department of sanitation working collaboratively together on a different location, a lot of times you'll see it at Venice it up, the only chess the operation healthy streets.

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NP Claudia Martin: Again, le just to go more specific 6344 regulates Vending park hours usage of tents storage of personal property and regulates the activities allowed inside of parks and that is it.

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NP Claudia Martin: For you, so that is my very quick presentation of an overview, in a nutshell of who does what, when and kind of why and a lot of times, I will say folks leave meetings with a better understanding of.

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NP Claudia Martin: Now I understand why I can't call lapd or the city attorney or whoever, you know because there's items or property there's a there's a very specific protocols that need to be placed and like I said what agencies could do back in 2005 are no longer in place now is how that works.

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NP Claudia Martin: And thank you for your time so I don't know if anybody has any questions, once again I can't give legal advice I can just tell you from the prosecution standpoint, where you know where we're coming from.

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Vicki Halliday: i'm sure the committee Scott questions.

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Vicki Halliday: i'll start with one Brian.

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Brian U.: Great presentation thanks Claudia has been a great friend to our city and to all of us and appreciate all your hard work.

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Brian U.: The last slide obviously what agency has control over parks and public spaces lapd and park Rangers we've obviously had a visitor come to town recently in the form of the La county sheriff.

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Brian U.: He says he's here, because the restrictions that are put on lapd as to what they can and can't do.

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Brian U.: Whereas he calls himself that he has jurisdiction and ability to come in and regulate public space, what is the city prosecutors position on what the Sheriff can and can't do or.

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Brian U.: And how is that working with the agencies, especially the relationship between lapd the Sheriff and we know that there's political problems between lapd I mean the Sheriff and the politicians but how's it working on the street yeah.

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NP Claudia Martin: I can tell you from the technical aspect of it because, obviously, yes, as you mentioned the Sheriff we the Sheriff.

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NP Claudia Martin: can go in and do the enforcement and we can get cases from the sheriff's department from any enforcement agency, who has jurisdiction so obviously lapd has jurisdiction park Rangers and.

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NP Claudia Martin: The sheriff's if they do present which they have cases to our office, and we will review them, just like we review the cases that we received from lapd and we will file them if it has all the requirements that we.

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NP Claudia Martin: We asked of lapd is what we were what we will do so basically we treat it we get the reports they look different because obviously the different agencies, but we will review them in the same manner.

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NP Claudia Martin: And file a proper yet so.

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Brian U.: So then, why don't you have them on listed on your on your slideshow as an agency that has jurisdiction with lapd park Rangers and La sheriff's department.

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Brian U.: needs to be.

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NP Claudia Martin: i'll be quite honest with you it's because it's only been from my experience this past summer that the sheriff's have come in to Venice but typically this because this presentation is given, obviously.

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NP Claudia Martin: i've had it for a while and I keep adding to it and I go division white and it's only in the summer, where the Sheriff came in, so I don't get you know it was.

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NP Claudia Martin: very limited.

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Brian U.: But he's showing up again he's he's in the he's in Brentwood he's in the va he's now been in westchester park this weekend.

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Brian U.: And the battle between the political side is he can't do this, he shouldn't do this, what you're saying from a legal standpoint, they have every ability to be there, I think.

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NP Claudia Martin: We received the case right, we were we've received the cases from the the sheriff's agents.

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NP Claudia Martin: sheriff's department yeah and like I said I haven't updated because i'll be honest and everybody here knows this.

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NP Claudia Martin: I am used to work he obviously I collaborate, we are, we all collaborate with different agencies, but when it comes to the law enforcement hand we have worked, obviously with lapd, for you know forever and that's why I didn't even include because that's who we typically deal with okay.

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Brian U.: Thank you.

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frank murphy: Very weren't previously.

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frank murphy: Excluded from.

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frank murphy: In other words, was it previous to that point that they were exploited again back to brian's point was was why weren't they mentioned to even if you didn't have any.

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frank murphy: Cases issue to them, they weren't previously excluded from.

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frank murphy: enforcement.

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NP Claudia Martin: know.

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frank murphy: What i'm taking it wasn't a purposeful thing I will tell you is that, like I said i've done this presentation and added to it over.

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NP Claudia Martin: a very long time, and that those particular slides haven't been updated since probably before the summer and so that's the only reason it has.

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Not.

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Brian U.: i'm just doing it for clarification.

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Brian U.: Because everybody's asking the question and who do we believe your candy be here candy not be here and now we know they can be.

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Brian U.: If they choose to do so.

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clark brown: A quarter is very helpful, thank you for your effort, but can you email us instead of your screens or possibly your desk outline from which the screens were prepared.

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NP Claudia Martin: I can't share this stuff, but I can send you some information and possibly like a link to our website that has the information, where I got where we get the information I can I can send you that info.

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clark brown: But I can't tell you.

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clark brown: Exactly what is your email address.

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NP Claudia Martin: You want my email address.

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clark brown: Yes.

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NP Claudia Martin: adia Doc Martin at La city.org.

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clark brown: OK.

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clark brown: For the question um it worked for an lapd officer to issue a citation under.

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clark brown: A and B is it necessary for their first to be an offer of a shelter.

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NP Claudia Martin: A w sound now.

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clark brown: So you probably talk Martin vs Boise hill that you can't.

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clark brown: Remove somebody from occupy say a sidewalk or a street if you don't have housing available to them for them or yes that's a property cases but.

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NP Claudia Martin: The Martin case.

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NP Claudia Martin: The the burden case they weren't like I said I don't write the code section, we have a civil side that obviously writes the code section, but.

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NP Claudia Martin: I will tell you that a lot of time was taken to make sure that any ordinance that is put into place pre post obviously Martin is review to make sure that it is completely income that it is in compliance.

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clark brown: stroke, but i'm not clear in your views and necessary for the city to offer or to make an offer of.

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clark brown: Housing before it issues a citation under.

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NP Claudia Martin: that's not what is required for the code section and literally what I put up on the screen is exactly what the code section is.

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clark brown: We want one last question and then.

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clark brown: Are you aware of any legal requirement that in order to move somebody to alternative housing the housing has to be available in the.

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clark brown: Council district, where the person resides.

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NP Claudia Martin: Once again i'll be very clear it's, not that I don't want to answer your question is that my role as a prosecutor is very like I very specific role and I can't go into that situation, because that has nothing to do with the criminal side with the filing of a case.

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clark brown: Right remarks.

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NP Claudia Martin: yeah so i'm sorry, but like there's i'm telling you like, I said it's all the time and Brian you've heard me say like a million times.

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NP Claudia Martin: I literally like.

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NP Claudia Martin: The last 30 minutes of a law and order episode, where the first 30 minutes of the investigation that I handled a lot, you know the Court part the filing part that's where we come in.

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Vicki Halliday: With.

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Brian U.: Is there a place, we could look to find that answer.

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Brian U.: or a person that we should ask.

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NP Claudia Martin: Let me check it that I can get back to you to see if there's somebody that you can reach out to.

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Brian U.: Because it is a good question.

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Brian U.: If you offer somebody housing in downtown la from West Chester park into a bridge housing and they go that's great, but they can't you know what i'm saying.

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NP Claudia Martin: I know exactly what you're saying, and that would be someone now, and I know exactly what you're talking about and then it's not something that I can.

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NP Claudia Martin: opine about because that's not in my wheelhouse but I will definitely I know how to get Ahold of you guys and you got to get Ahold of me so i'll make.

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sure.

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Brian U.: We know your people, you call it.

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Vicki Halliday: Was.

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Elizabeth Wright: Recently, we were addressed by.

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Elizabeth Wright: Someone involved with skid row and the statement was that the gangs are.

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Elizabeth Wright: being very mean to the homeless people on skid row demanding money if you want to stay in that place, then you must come up with a certain amount of money on that plus the dealing of drugs is there's something comparable going on in Venice as well.

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Elizabeth Wright: where you have the gangs.

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Elizabeth Wright: In big very.

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Elizabeth Wright: Controlling of the homeless environment.

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NP Claudia Martin: I have not received a criminal case.

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NP Claudia Martin: showing that, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't happen and that's something that's.

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NP Claudia Martin: Probably better address for lapd since they're the ones that received a lot of those types of complaints, I can tell you that I have not received a report that that looks that way in a report but lapd would probably be best to address.

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NP Claudia Martin: What kind of assuming that if it were the case, you would have a number of.

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cases.

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NP Claudia Martin: i'm not saying that because they could possibly definitely be happening is just a may not be reported lapd may not have made an arrest in that type of case or citation So it goes without saying, with a lot of things there's a lot of.

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NP Claudia Martin: crime that goes unreported and if it goes and reported that I won't see it because, in order for me to find anything I actually need to have.

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NP Claudia Martin: A police report so i'm not saying whether it happens or not I just can't.

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NP Claudia Martin: address it, because I I I don't know that's something that our law enforcement partners may be able to address if they're receiving that those complaints or our social service provider partners if they're hearing that.

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Elizabeth Wright: Word Thank you get better address.

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Brian U.: With with fb because people are afraid that those cases are not going to get prosecuted, because of the district attorney.

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NP Claudia Martin: I don't know I I don't know I don't know if if that's why folks are not coming forward if this is, if this is what's happening that I can't I can't tell you, because i'm not adding to them, not physically out there, I do work with the service providers.

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NP Claudia Martin: And regarding their clients, but I don't have access to their clients because i'm not actually out there in the field, making contacts I work, obviously with their providers.

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NP Claudia Martin: or their attorneys if a case is filed then i'll work with their attorneys once they get to to court so it's very rare occasion that I get to speak one on one with individuals out there.

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You go great.

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frank murphy: hands around.

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frank murphy: pattern chat.

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Pat Raphael: Yes, so uh something kind of stuck in my mind, as I was doing.

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Pat Raphael: The close working relationship between your office in the lapd right so upon teaching them how to like write the reports and the morning briefing relationship is there any confidence or any procedure in place to make sure that reports aren't just being written to fulfill conviction.

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Pat Raphael: regard regardless of the facts on the ground, I mean what what what what what.

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NP Claudia Martin: I missed the part of it makes sure that reports are written wet and then it kind of cut off a little bit.

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Pat Raphael: Well, I mean.

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Pat Raphael: i'm trying to imagine, is there a situational reports could be written just to fulfill the conviction and or the prosecution by.

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Pat Raphael: With that more as the focus in not as much as the facts on the ground because i'm wondering what kind of skewing that morning briefing relationship between your office in the police department how that affects the enforcement in in what comes.

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Pat Raphael: Or why that's even necessary for that closely in interaction between your office in the people who are here to present your reports, unbiased of what has happened.

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NP Claudia Martin: So the reason why we have roll call trainings Is that why is that what that's what you're asking right why we do the trainings what we do the trainings because when we file a case there are certain things that we need in order in the report in order to.

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NP Claudia Martin: fulfill all the elements basically because we have to, we have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt every single element, so we know, based on since we're out there in the courthouse doing it all, you know, day in and day out what it is that we would need so.

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NP Claudia Martin: I don't think I will be honest with you, I don't think lps going out there, say okay we're going to go and.

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NP Claudia Martin: fill in the blanks I guess so so we can get a prosecution I don't think necessarily that that's what's happening is we just provide the Info so when they do come across that violation.

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NP Claudia Martin: If the violations occurred to make sure that they put in all of the information that we need in the report.

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NP Claudia Martin: I guess a question if i'm answering.

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Pat Raphael: The reason I thought this was an important question, I imagine if the violation is occurring in just the narrative of the violation.

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Pat Raphael: As observed by somebody whose job it is to take a report of the observation that in itself should I imagine being enough to then extract the conviction.

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Pat Raphael: If that's what your office would be needing to do, but it seems like that part of teaching the officers, how to write the report for the purpose of the conviction, it seems like like to me that's that's that's.

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Pat Raphael: kind of putting the outcome before the occurrence so exactly what you've described within go happen on the ground officers would write the report based on what you said.

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Pat Raphael: I would imagine, regardless of what goes on on the ground.

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NP Claudia Martin: Was it there's certain code sections where, for instance up as an example, before before 2014 the desert train case the 8502 illegal lodging.

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NP Claudia Martin: That code section said it's unlawful to lodge in your vehicle well, even before 2014 when we were giving trainings.

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NP Claudia Martin: I would need to be able to prove I need to prove to a jury back before 2014 what does illegal lodging mean so.

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NP Claudia Martin: In the roll call training, we will provide the information which ironically enough after 2014 was written into the law right, so it basically says what fruit what what constitutes illegal lodging evidence of.

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NP Claudia Martin: You know bedding clothing food cooking sleeping in there, all that information which, after 2014 was written in the code, but prior to that that's the type of information.

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NP Claudia Martin: That we would provide enroll called training and said I need to prove your legal lodging, even though the code section just says it's unlawful to live in your vehicle I would we would provide roll call training and say.

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NP Claudia Martin: How do we prove someone's lodging if all this stuff is in the report, so if all this stuff if it's visible, then you need to include that in the report.

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NP Claudia Martin: If somebody makes a statement that information needs to be in the report is basically I don't know if i'm answering your question but that's basically.

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NP Claudia Martin: What we're doing is providing the information of what we need in a report, so if they come across it to make sure that it is included in the report.

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Vicki Halliday: or.

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clark brown: or quality, am I do I understand correctly that.

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clark brown: It is not necessary for the city to arrange outreach between the social service agencies like St joseph's Center and path for an lapd officer can issue a citation under.

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clark brown: Be for occupying the sidewalk and part of the street Is that correct.

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NP Claudia Martin: it's on the code sex the way it's written like literally what I had up there is exactly how it's written so with their code does not have written in it that an.

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NP Claudia Martin: outreach needs to be provided, or housing needs to be provided it's exactly how it's going and i'll make sure to send you that information, so you have it.

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clark brown: But never worse, to the best of your knowledge is that never listened to establish a procedure that the lapd follows.

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NP Claudia Martin: The way the code is written.

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clark brown: No, no, but, even though the code does not require outreach as a precondition for issuing a citation under.

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clark brown: Is that necessary is that, nevertheless, a policy, the lapd follows.

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NP Claudia Martin: I can't talk about lapd policy because i'm not part of lapd but what I can tell you in the reports that I review is.

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NP Claudia Martin: Which is what I mentioned earlier, is that the goal is to help the individual, so I will say that a lot of the reports most important is that our mornings are given and.

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NP Claudia Martin: Multiple warnings are given outreach the providers will come in a lot of times that work together is before they will get to the point of issuing a citation I will tell you that.

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clark brown: I will say that because it's just a matter of procedures and policies that correct right.

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NP Claudia Martin: Like I said I can't speak to about lapd policy or procedure because we're different agencies, I just tell you what i've seen and basically on the reports and in my relationship working relationship with them.

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clark brown: Work remote yeah.

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NP Claudia Martin: And that is the thing, and I know if another time obviously mooney contrast you guys to see them for dnc and the other officers, they can address that until you specifically because that is their their agency.

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NP Claudia Martin: But I like I said, but I do know, especially a Pacific because keep in mind, I will say, since i've been here for so long is that we've there's always been you know.

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NP Claudia Martin: issues with folks experiencing help you know homelessness.

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NP Claudia Martin: Whereas during time now the entire city right because the entire city has these code sections in place or these laws in place that it's coming up everywhere, but I will say that since I started back in 2006.

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NP Claudia Martin: Working with the officers and they've always had and I continue to to working with them, working with the outreach providers so it's always been something that lapd is always wish to you know, help and provide the outreach.

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NP Claudia Martin: You know, give the warnings and they've been doing it for a very long time and it's only recently that now the entire city.

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NP Claudia Martin: we're seeing these issues in the entire city so.

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NP Claudia Martin: That helps a little bit and then frank, I don't know if your hand is up or.

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frank murphy: No, I yeah I had a couple more another question for you did I understand right, so the presentation that you gave tonight.

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frank murphy: We can usually post stuff on our on our homelessness committee is that available to be done our.

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NP Claudia Martin: that's not available, not this not this exact one, but I will give you the Info and I can actually give you a link.

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NP Claudia Martin: Because our office website has.

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NP Claudia Martin: All the Info what I ended up doing is basically what we are is we get the information and then we obviously make it as user friendly something that i'm comfortable giving to the Community, something that I know my folks you know.

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NP Claudia Martin: But all the information that I got this from I will send you the link and you'll have it all even more information, more cases.

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NP Claudia Martin: Frequently Asked Questions updates all that info I will send it to you, so you guys have it great.

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Great.

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Vicki Halliday: Brian.

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Brian U.: Can we keep asking a couple questions.

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Brian U.: Okay.

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Brian U.: about the rv parking along Pacific in front of Google and obviously now in the balloon of wetlands and different areas, they the average person would look at somebody's living in a mobile home as a person that's house not announced, or almost.

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Brian U.: A mobile home recreational vehicle got a kitchen bathroom shower and those are functioning basically homes.

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Brian U.: Why is it that if a person is not homeless if they're living in a rv is it allowed to be part in our public streets with the sewage.

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Brian U.: freely flowing into the gutters and the and the trash and all that shouldn't there or is there a law, I can understand a car or the things that is illegal about to get somebody to a car, but but an rv and a home is.

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Brian U.: Can you just touch on that.

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NP Claudia Martin: I know, would you say, would you say I will tell you can't we get those.

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Brian U.: To go to a place where they can hook up and be you know properly watered and disposal and and waste and all that.

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NP Claudia Martin: So I will tell you that one of the things I have persecuted, they started.

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NP Claudia Martin: is easy go dumping from our views and one of them, the first one that ever did was actually out of Venice back in 2009 I think I want to say.

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NP Claudia Martin: So regardless of whether it's an rv or a car or someone on how's how's it is against the law to have it's basically called blackwater right so it's sewage.

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NP Claudia Martin: There are laws in place and the there the sanitation department has different units, just like lapd has different units so, then you have one of the units that we work with closely with watershed is the unit that's in charge of illegal dumping and so.

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NP Claudia Martin: If there are complaints or if an rv is seen, and it looks suspects, you know of illegal dumping, they have a hotline which I will also provide.

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NP Claudia Martin: To you, in the email, and they will typically despite somebody with an investigator within 24 hours to go out there and investigate.

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NP Claudia Martin: And they will do their investigation with regards to illegal dumping they run their tests, they do what they need to do, these are these investigators go through in addition to.

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NP Claudia Martin: The training with the city, they have a very, very scientific background, and I know that because I had to prosecute cases and I was like pH what what are you talking about but and they.

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NP Claudia Martin: Very scientific and so, then, if a violation is found, they also will present cases to us, and if they do, then obviously.

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NP Claudia Martin: If we fall a charge or case or whatever, and we asked for probation that we asked for conditions, but no, it is absolutely against the law for anyone in any type of vehicle or anything or not even in a vehicle but to dump waste in a non designated area, there are laws to protect.

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Brian U.: How many.

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Brian U.: How many cases would be prosecuted in CD 11 for that violation.

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NP Claudia Martin: For that violation, I have had.

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NP Claudia Martin: I would say, probably a handful in the last couple years like I said since 2009 2010 okay.

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Brian U.: But I mean there are reports and letters to get written to the office and all the agencies on a daily basis from third and rows and from all these about illegal dumping and blackwater going into the gutters joining this or rick rick.

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Brian U.: You know, all these are comments so to have a handful of cases in the last five years, we were talking about 50 or 100 cases that could have come in the last six months.

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NP Claudia Martin: And like I said I can give you the information of WHO to call and what agency, it is the sanitation, is one of their water said units to go out there and anytime we get a call we that's the first person that we do is we.

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NP Claudia Martin: We relay the information and then, once they're done with their investigation.

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NP Claudia Martin: Is when they presented to us now, mind you that's just me, we do have an environmental compliance unit obviously another unit in my office in downtown.

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NP Claudia Martin: That they also handle cases, so they make a cases but that's a different agency, who does that investigation and i'll provide that information that 800 number and like I said they're very responsive.

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Brian U.: And my last follow up was.

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Brian U.: You were totally against arresting people and putting them in prisons and over incarceration and all that.

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Brian U.: But there's a lot of people in the average homeless we're not trying to criminalize whatsoever, but the people that do prey on the homelessness.

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Brian U.: And you need to be potentially arrested for the violations that are happening and It just seems that all the PD is still handcuffed in is not arresting for typical things or they're not being.

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Brian U.: prosecuted, is it because they're there, Mr meters is there been any conversation about not arresting someone to put them into incarceration but arresting someone that commits a violation.

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Brian U.: In the city of Venice for one of these misdemeanor crimes that they do 30 days of community service right there in invest whether even you're paying $15 an hour.

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Brian U.: There just doesn't seem to be any consequences whatsoever for criminal activity for the criminals, not for the homeless, for the criminal activity, whether it's a homeless person or whether it's a resident.

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Brian U.: Can you can you address could there be alternative sentencing that doesn't involve incarceration to actually make a determinant for the behavior that's happening on the streets, but.

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NP Claudia Martin: I do know that our office is involved, and we have a lot of you know there's diversion programs and different types of programs that you're talking about I will go back and discuss a little bit.

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NP Claudia Martin: I did mention him 5611 that that code section suspended because of the pandemic, one of the other things that is also affecting.

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NP Claudia Martin: The way the enforcement is done it's not necessarily that enforcement is not being done is that since the pandemic the bales scheduled there's an emergency bail schedule.

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NP Claudia Martin: Which means books are not being held in custody for anything less than $50,000 bail, which means so if someone's arrested.

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NP Claudia Martin: If someone's arrested at the beach or anywhere this affects the county so this isn't just to La or Venice i'm talking about the county from pasadena Santa Monica any city that's in the county is affected by this emergency bail schedule.

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NP Claudia Martin: So.

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NP Claudia Martin: If someone is arrested and let's say it's a battery case as an example off the top of my head so somebody hit somebody else.

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NP Claudia Martin: I mean that's a violent crime right, but the bail let's say is only $25,000 so what ends up happening as that the person is book you'll see lapd or.

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NP Claudia Martin: they'll see lapd arrest somebody they take them down to the station, but because the bail is less than $50,000 under the emergency bail schedule, they are immediately they're booked.

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NP Claudia Martin: And then they're given a ticket to come back to court on a future date which is three four months out so previous to march of 2020 folks if they commit a crime and the bills high obviously or no high like 25 Whatever the case may be.

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frank murphy: They were actually kept.

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NP Claudia Martin: in custody until we for misdemeanors within 48 hours if we file a criminal case so we'll give an example john doe hit somebody at the beach.

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NP Claudia Martin: They are arrested, they stay in custody I get a case the next day or two days later, because it's 48 hours I review it review everything in the report, all the four corners everything else if I file a criminal case that individual will still be in custody, so when they come to court.

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NP Claudia Martin: They will actually come to court because they're going to be brought to court and then the case is heard right then in there, whether they can plead guilty not guilty Whatever the case may be.

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NP Claudia Martin: Fast over to the pandemic that's not what's happening individuals, I mean.

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NP Claudia Martin: it's the bail folks being held is at least $50,000 bail and for very specific violent crimes which typically is the felonies so individuals.

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NP Claudia Martin: Are not staying in custody and they're being released back so the perception is is that nothing's been done or no enforcement or not prosecution.

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NP Claudia Martin: that's not necessarily the case, the individual could be arrested brought back, but because of the bell schedule they're being released immediately.

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NP Claudia Martin: And what ends up happening, they go right back to the area, and so, then, if someone is say is arrested today in October at the beach they'll come to the station there'll be released get given a ticket to come back.

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NP Claudia Martin: February, because of the pandemic the way it's been they'll say we need to come back to court in February I file a case here's February 1.

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NP Claudia Martin: If the individual doesn't show up to court and so on, February, keep in mind now we're talking in February.

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NP Claudia Martin: Then a warrant is issued, but the warrant is not going to be typically for more than $50,000 so on February 2 when lapd runs into the individual and there's a warrant.

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NP Claudia Martin: They can get picked up on the word once again again brought back to the station, but because the bail is not over $50,000 once again they will be released and then now they'll be given a ticket to come back in May or June of 2020 right.

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NP Claudia Martin: And so they start over.

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NP Claudia Martin: And that's and that's because of the pandemic so that's how everything is working to you know how.

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NP Claudia Martin: there's sometimes where everything works together and it's great and there's some things that when they work together unfortunate because of the pandemic that's what we're seeing I mean that there was somebody I want to say.

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Brian U.: Last year, this is insanity.

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NP Claudia Martin: And that's because of the emerging the that's the image and that has nothing to do with any of your city folk that.

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NP Claudia Martin: that's under not have any of our control, and this is what this bail schedule affects the entire county any every city in the county and I don't I will tell you is that the courts, we got notice every month since the pandemic that were extensions and you know covered and it looks like.

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NP Claudia Martin: They aren't extended anymore, which means slowly we're going back to normal, the court system, so perhaps because the court system is going back.

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NP Claudia Martin: Hopefully, in time, back to normalcy with whatever that means these days right.

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NP Claudia Martin: That the bail schedule will soon follow I can't even comment on that at all, because I don't know that's a completely different like I said that's the county So hopefully but that's just a picture of why it may seem like that there's nothing being done is that it could be.

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NP Claudia Martin: yeah it's getting better.

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Brian U.: it's just the Community needs to understand this, this is so valuable for us to hear this stuff.

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Vicki Halliday: It is.

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Brian U.: It goes well why don't they do this or why might they arrest and it's because they do and it's just it's.

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Brian U.: There has to be someone that's going to dictate Okay, the kovats over this is back to normal, and now we can start to enforce and have this stuff taken care of do you how do you think that's going to be a huge change back to the before covered.

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NP Claudia Martin: That.

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NP Claudia Martin: Well yeah cuz once it goes back it'll be like how it used to be, you know where someone's arrested they're kept in custody.

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NP Claudia Martin: You know if the bail is a certain amount and definitely wasn't 50,000, I can tell you that it was way lower than that and you're able to get a result we're able to get a resolution on a case.

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NP Claudia Martin: I can speak for ours for misdemeanors, especially for the types of cases that I file, which are quality of life crimes.

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NP Claudia Martin: I, in order for us to get a stay away so if someone commits something.

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NP Claudia Martin: At the beach or Whatever the case may be, then one of the things that we would typically ask for is to stay away right.

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NP Claudia Martin: This person's order to stay away from the location where they committed a crime.

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NP Claudia Martin: That can be placed those dailies cannot be put on an individual unless they're placed on probation and the only way they're placed on probation is if they're actually in court, they come into court.

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NP Claudia Martin: To to bleed right to plead guilty or not guilty so that's where the issue comes up so we can't get any sentences any conditions anything until the individual comes to court and basically stands before a judge and we handle the case so.

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Brian U.: you're saying this is this, this goes, this is in Santa Monica, this is a Manhattan beach this.

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NP Claudia Martin: Right so like this has nothing to do with lapd or anything, this is this the bail schedule emergency bail schedule affects the entire county of Los Angeles, so we all are under the same.

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NP Claudia Martin: bill, so the book The lapd but they have to follow the bail schedule to the county.

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frank murphy: wow that's got his hand up.

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Pat Raphael: Okay, so, on the other issue, then I heard.

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Pat Raphael: You mention that the current enforcement of.

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Pat Raphael: Vehicle dwelling is no longer under the color tiered system that was previously under and it sounds like you can just live anywhere in your car now is that is that what's going on.

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NP Claudia Martin: Correct and then now, I will say, since we're here, you know is that, as you know, the before the pandemic if there were certain violations then do T or lapd can tell a vehicle well because of the pandemic.

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NP Claudia Martin: Any vehicle that has any evidence of signs of folks living in it cannot be told so that's another issue, just so we're all you know, fully aware that is still in place now there is.

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Pat Raphael: No, I know you're saying that, but I know personally people who live in their car and their cars been told, for I mean that's what happened to the aspect that I sold them my friend, he lived in it, and while he was gone the total, even though he was clearly living in it.

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NP Claudia Martin: I sorry did i'm just telling you what the rules like what's going on in place now I.

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NP Claudia Martin: acquainted the kids so code section and and and you know because of the pandemic what suspended and what's not so.

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frank murphy: i'm.

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frank murphy: Claudia.

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frank murphy: You put in your time.

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frank murphy: i'm just one.

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NP Claudia Martin: line with the city attorney's.

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office.

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NP Claudia Martin: This is what happens when you invite me to a night meeting okay.

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NP Claudia Martin: Very well.

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NP Claudia Martin: i'm sorry i'm just kidding.

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frank murphy: No, I appreciate no filter I think it's great and it's really been informative, but I just wanted to ask, I know that your time is pretty restrained to do it would it we don't necessarily public comment doesn't necessarily.

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frank murphy: it's a public comment on what you've said, are presented, but if you would like to take some questions from the public, I was just wondering if that was a possibility.

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frank murphy: Because I know your it's your choice.

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NP Claudia Martin: Of course, of course, and then yes.

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NP Claudia Martin: answer.

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NP Claudia Martin: I will be honest and then it's so funny because I realized there's more people here, if I can answer something it's, not because I don't want to I really can't speak on it.

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frank murphy: You know, because it's one of those I mean if I had an opinion I.

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NP Claudia Martin: I can't speak on it, so I don't I know, sometimes it looks like oh she's not answering or you know she's trying to pass the it's not it's just that i'm limited as to what I can address and anything I can I will as best as I can.

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frank murphy: Try Clark handle.

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clark brown: salon or oh.

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Vicki Halliday: Go ahead.

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clark brown: Oh, Claudia you may not feel it's appropriate to answer this question and I can understand why, but are you aware Calvin bonbons Office has told the lapd that it's not the issue citations under 4118 A and B unless alternative housing is available to the psyche.

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NP Claudia Martin: I personally have not heard that anytime i've been in the room, and I have, I personally have not heard that, but again that's a question that should probably be asked of lapd since it's specifically for to add that they are talking about.

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NP Claudia Martin: and talk about what I worked, I have not heard that, personally, but I have not heard okay.

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frank murphy: Thanks okay.

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Vicki Halliday: vicki questions for Claudia let's keep them to questions um and look what see I see three hands up.

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Vicki Halliday: For.

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Vicki Halliday: I see four hands up, so the last.

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Vicki Halliday: Question or will be Lisa read men will start with Andrea.

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Vicki Halliday: Andrea.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Thank you, yes, thank you and thank you, Claudia i'm just I just want to echo brian's account of illegal dumping happening way more than the cases that you're seeing.

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Andrea Boccaletti: I would agree with that, because it happened on my street right in front of my house and I came back and it just.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Was unbelievably is the smell for days and someone illegally dumped right in the storm drain right in front of the House and.

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Andrea Boccaletti: that's unfortunate because it's a real public health hazard and just you know some huge mess, but my question was so with the camper with the campers and the rv and those things I guess that constitutes the illegal.

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Andrea Boccaletti: occupation and living on public streets right because it passes all those things it's a bad they have clothing that.

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Andrea Boccaletti: I know you said that you think some people classify that as housing, but i'm just want to get your answer on that Thank you.

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NP Claudia Martin: So there is no law as we're talking about pat was talking about and clarified there used to be a law at 502 that made it made it illegal to lodging your vehicle.

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NP Claudia Martin: That last sunset so it has not been renewed or new loss code section so right now, it is not illegal to live in your vehicle anywhere in the city of Los Angeles.

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NP Claudia Martin: However, it is illegal, obviously, to dump you know illegal dumping is illegal so and I just want to clarify as well because Brian did ask me how many cases like I said.

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NP Claudia Martin: We have another unit in my office who handles environmental cases and in theory in history, these types of cases do fall under the environmental unit So those are the types of key i've handled the.

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NP Claudia Martin: Roughly but that doesn't mean that our unit in downtown hasn't handled them so just wanted to be very clear with that.

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NP Claudia Martin: So with regards to I hope I answered your question Andrea but either legal lodging there's no law against it, there is a logins illegal dumping.

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NP Claudia Martin: And I will provide the Info and everybody again I can repeat it my email, if you want the Info email me at Claudia Martin at La city.org.

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NP Claudia Martin: Or if you go to 311 my only the 311 APP there is a drop down, you can actually file a service request.

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NP Claudia Martin: For illegal dumping or anything on the website and they'll connect the agency or, if you want the direct number, I can give you the link to the to the number.

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NP Claudia Martin: And you can call them and my understanding is they actually have operators answering taking in these these types of illegal dumping complaints and locations.

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Great.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you, Andrea of next up is cj with a question cj.

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CJ Cole: hey I don't really have a question, I just want to thank Claudia it was a wonderful presentation, I think it opened a lot of our ears and probably is generating a lot of questions and I did want to let the.

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CJ Cole: board know or the committee know that I did a screenshot PDF so I emailed it to frank of the presentation slides so frankie can give it out to people if they are interested and things Claudia and things committee Thank you that's it.

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Vicki Halliday: Also, these meetings are all now recorded and in the next couple of days, that will be up as a supporting document on our committee page.

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Vicki Halliday: Next up Helen ballon.

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Helen Fallon: Not on i've got kind of a two part question that relates to what Andrea brought up the arby's we've got some rv and cameras here where they've actually got structures that are built into the street.

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Helen Fallon: And nothing seems to happen of hope that i've been there, literally I don't know whether their storage structures or whatever, but you know it's it's.

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Helen Fallon: it's not just a self contained rv it's like they've expanded.

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Helen Fallon: And I don't understand why that isn't being addressed, and then the other part, is it almost seems like some of these are the encampments are inhabited by people who.

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Helen Fallon: really are using them to engage in a lot of criminal activities drug dealing and and I chop shops, etc.

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Helen Fallon: And nothing seems to happen it's almost like if you're living in an rv you get a free pass and I just don't understand why that is, the thing tackle that.

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Helen Fallon: Typically, have the one on denison electric and there's constantly people posting that they are seeing criminal activity going on.

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Helen Fallon: And yet that encampment just keeps going on and on and they've got one section there where they're blocking the path within half the bike path and and the walkways so I don't I guess i'm wondering why some of these really egregious things aren't being addressed.

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NP Claudia Martin: I will follow up actually add today with narcotics unit, but I will follow up with them, obviously, because lapd the narcotics unit, are the ones that do the enforcement investigations on the Narco complaints.

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NP Claudia Martin: i'll follow up with the senior lead when I said electric okay so that's Adrian acosta regarding any of the violations like you said of the bike path which would be.

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NP Claudia Martin: Possibly the 4118 be because that's a bike path and the public rights of way with regards to the structure on the street.

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NP Claudia Martin: That is something that we have been seen one of them, most notably was on Thatcher, which was like a three story structure and we're seeing more of those I will say that we did.

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NP Claudia Martin: have a meeting with the Council office and others to discuss that because there could be.

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NP Claudia Martin: Obviously, things on the street, the jurisdiction is always the lapd street services and typically when it structures it's building a safety, but they deal with the structures that are on actual like property with an API number and so discussions were have.

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NP Claudia Martin: have happened, and then I will follow up with regards and advise them that we're now obviously getting.

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NP Claudia Martin: You know more complaints of these structures popping up, not just here and I will tell you, because i'm West Bureau so I have meetings with my.

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NP Claudia Martin: Other colleagues there an Olympic they're all obviously they're all over the place, so we will make sure to follow up and let them know that we are getting additional complaints of these types of structures.

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Vicki Halliday: hey i'm Lisa redmond.

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NP Claudia Martin: yeah.

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Lisa Redmond: hi I don't have a question for Claudia, though, I just want to say that i'm highly disappointed that this new iteration of the homelessness committee.

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Lisa Redmond: uses their first meeting as an opportunity to criminalize homelessness and those experiencing homelessness yeah Brian i'm raising my hands to.

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Lisa Redmond: it's.

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Lisa Redmond: it's shameful that you're not taking this opportunity to come together to say.

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Lisa Redmond: As an earlier caller did why don't we have more mental health availability, what can we do to move people into housing where can we encourage our city councilman to create more housing to redo different housing, instead of new construction.

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Lisa Redmond: All kinds of things like that instead we have to learn about every possible violation and how we can criminalize people experiencing homelessness.

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Lisa Redmond: And earlier iteration of the mission statement that I worked on said, will work with law enforcement, but that's not important what's important is fixing this humanitarian crisis, this social issue.

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Lisa Redmond: Of like everyone's worried about excuse me i'm talking everyone.

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Claudia.

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frank murphy: Okay.

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Lisa Redmond: Why don't the police enforce all the crazy scooters that are going in and out and impeding traffic.

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Lisa Redmond: they're dangerous to our environment, they could create causes and hazards.

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Lisa Redmond: What about those What about the drug houses on my house, what about the new stop sign in my neighborhood that no one stops it, why do bicyclists get to fly through stop signs and they're considered vehicles Those are all questions, but yet we're only concerned this is like a public safe.

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frank murphy: So wanting to ask a.

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frank murphy: Question Lisa I.

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frank murphy: just said you had a bunch of questions i'm.

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frank murphy: I just questions.

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Lisa Redmond: I thought this was an opportunity to publicly.

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Lisa Redmond: speak as it was after as the agenda states public comment on the.

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frank murphy: print, this was a questions for Claudia.

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Lisa Redmond: Okay well why don't we criminalize the people writing scooters illegally Claudia.

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NP Claudia Martin: there's actually a code section well if you're talking about the beach, there is a code section under 6344 oh that addresses that and just October 5 which I can send you the link there's a new motion that was introduced by councilman barn in that specifically addresses.

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NP Claudia Martin: These types of vehicles.

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NP Claudia Martin: At the boardwalk and around there because i'm assuming that's what you're talking about right and i'll send you the link, if you want, because I actually just followed up and it should go before Council.

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NP Claudia Martin: Tomorrow I think so i'll send you the Info at least I have your email So if you want, I can send you the direct link to that to the City Council file on that.

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Vicki Halliday: And that was the last question.

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frank murphy: I saw Mike bravo head.

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Vicki Halliday: He took it down.

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frank murphy: Okay.

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Vicki Halliday: i'm Claudia Thank you so much for giving us so much time we appreciate it, and you know it's.

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Vicki Halliday: The situation.

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Vicki Halliday: It has an impact on everyone, and I think you answered a lot of questions for at least a great portion of the stakeholders tonight.

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NP Claudia Martin: Thank you, I appreciate that, and you know, and I want to end with this, because i'm I know just a couple minutes I know i've taken a lot of your time but.

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NP Claudia Martin: I will say i've had several individuals that have the they were at the boardwalk and I will talk Venice beach, specifically, since this is the Venice right.

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NP Claudia Martin: Is that there was a bunch of outreach the providers were trying to get outreach at the end of the day, we've had you know, I was presented criminal cases.

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NP Claudia Martin: Several of them were for violence cases and we ended up filing charges like I mentioned earlier, through the process of filing the cases we do work with the providers and try to get individuals to help I will tell you that recently there's one in particular who.

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NP Claudia Martin: It was on the news let's just say where she is on the news where go look it up she's hitting folks with the vacuum cleaner, all you know that whole thing.

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NP Claudia Martin: Violence we filed case I this past June went to her, we, as a result of the criminal case she was placed into housing got treatment for the substance abuse also got mental health treatment all as a part of the criminal case.

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NP Claudia Martin: And, as a result, she has been clean and sober for three years blow for years she ran the La marathon.

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NP Claudia Martin: She hadn't run before I was there at the finish line and she said i'm going to go back to school and I said well if you go back to school i'll help you know, and I will be there at your graduation.

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NP Claudia Martin: And then one in particular on June 12 I was at her graduation at a uc school there's another individual same at the beach we just a year ago reunited her with her family and Washington, and she is thriving and these are folks that were at the beach.

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NP Claudia Martin: Somebody else we just reunited him with his dad in in Denver Colorado, and all this was done.

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NP Claudia Martin: This was attempted, this could have been done while the individuals were out in the you know, in the field, or you know at the beach or wherever.

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NP Claudia Martin: But they weren't ready yet right people are ready at different times it just happened to be when we get the case.

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NP Claudia Martin: We are still presented we're still trying to do the outreach that they're doing in the field.

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NP Claudia Martin: But now they're doing it under the Court supervision and, at the end of the day we end up dismissing the cases a lot of times we dismissed the case and.

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NP Claudia Martin: You don't hear these stories Brian does and advocate this at these you know smaller Community meetings.

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NP Claudia Martin: But on a larger scale in the media, wherever we don't hear these stories, but I get the text all the time from these, ladies and gentlemen, that we've helped over the years and there are several of them were, unfortunately.

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NP Claudia Martin: that's not the first choice of anyone is obviously getting this route, you know, through the criminal justice system it's not it's not anyone's choice, but if a crime is happening.

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NP Claudia Martin: And someone's public safety is at risk or several you know violations, then we must, you know.

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NP Claudia Martin: I filed charges follow the case, but that doesn't mean that the outreach and that the helping stops it does it we continue it and I can, I can tell you I have tested several individuals that we have helped.

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NP Claudia Martin: And they are grateful for the outreach in the field, the officers everyone involved to try to help and we get emails from their families, as well, so it's not just.

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NP Claudia Martin: me, you know the one picture, but this I did want to leave and end this meeting with showing sharing I can't share pictures, but I will tell you one of the greatest.

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NP Claudia Martin: moments of my career, I should probably retire now at the end is standing there at this, because this individual said to me.

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NP Claudia Martin: In this was in 2018 in October of 2018 she said, you know what I saw the the route.

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NP Claudia Martin: Of the La marathon in which was going to be march of 2019 and she said, I really want to cry and she said to me, I was homeless in that entire route.

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NP Claudia Martin: From downtown Hollywood Santa Monica I look i'm getting the chills I lived on the streets in that entire route and that's what she said to me.

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NP Claudia Martin: i'm going to train and i'm going to run that marathon which this was an October that she told me marathon was in March, she had just started running.

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NP Claudia Martin: And I said, if you run it, I will be there and I was there at the finish line and when she came and she not only did she run it in the same like I said the same on the streets, where she was homeless, she qualifies for the Boston marathon on her very first.

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NP Claudia Martin: Right.

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NP Claudia Martin: And she was homeless for years.

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NP Claudia Martin: right there right.

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frank murphy: Okay, so that's impressive.

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NP Claudia Martin: And I have video and I, and I stood there, and she didn't know, I was going to be there and or Community Member from Venice.

887
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NP Claudia Martin: And I was there, and she did it, and then we see those cases and, unfortunately, that approximate unfortunate but it's unfortunate that folks don't hear those stories.

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NP Claudia Martin: That are coming from not just I can't say like oh it's from skid row owner know these stories are an individual's are being helped.

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NP Claudia Martin: In your where pat is right now, where you are right now, Pat, I can see the beach behind you, is where a lot of these folks are coming from and where they are being helped so if we can share that part.

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NP Claudia Martin: You know, then I will be here to share that it does happen and i'll tell you it's an amazing they're amazing stories to see these individuals, where they are now from where they came from.

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NP Claudia Martin: So so with that Thank you so much for having me, hopefully, and then Pat, if you have any more questions, because I know you were really curious send me an email, and then we can chat I can answer any questions that you'd like.

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Vicki Halliday: Okay, thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you so much.

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Vicki Halliday: Okay i'm pretty frank.

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frank murphy: Okay, would there be any more comments on public comments on claudia's presentation if anybody would like with you want to raise your hand real quick.

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let's see.

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Vicki Halliday: I don't see any hands going up we'll give it one alito redmond would like to talk.

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frank murphy: No all Johnson.

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Vicki Halliday: She keeps I keep trying with.

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Vicki Halliday: Lisa talk and then we'll see.

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frank murphy: Oh cool that's gotta.

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Vicki Halliday: OK, I will let me promote her two panelists.

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Pat Raphael: I thought Alex Walter was also trying to speak, it seems like it's been coming off.

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Vicki Halliday: yeah it's it's off now so Lisa go ahead.

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Lisa Redmond: i'm.

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frank murphy: Sorry sorry Lisa.

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colette bailey: hi sorry guys, I was in my car driving, so I thought it was safer, not to.

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Vicki Halliday: Go ahead Lisa.

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Lisa Redmond: i'm just disappointed.

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Lisa Redmond: I just hope that you guys can do better, you know let's make this a committee, where we work to solve a solution that we provide answers and not go straight to the juggler to try and criminalize people and take care of.

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Lisa Redmond: homelessness in that way, because that does not solve issues i'm really glad that Claudia.

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Lisa Redmond: finished with a story that actually proves to all the naysayers that housing first does work so let's leave that and thank you, Brian for not interrupting my public comment, this time, I hope that continues.

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colette bailey: Thank you just one comment, if I can have one just want to thank the committee you guys did a great job today.

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colette bailey: Claudia was amazing i've known her for years, also after serving on the neighbor Council and.

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colette bailey: Just it was a very good meeting with a lot of great information, thank you.

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frank murphy: call out, could you introduce yourself, I know you missed the earlier introductions and and we'll sort of.

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frank murphy: introduced ourselves just real cursory could you could you do that, please.

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colette bailey: My name is Scott, I have been living in Venice, since the early 80s.

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colette bailey: And I have been i've served on the neighborhood Council i've also served on the business arts board and i've been in and out of different community groups throughout the years so i'm.

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colette bailey: Here, to learn and to actually give some of the people that I know in the Community, some information and I don't want to give information that's.

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colette bailey: i'm truthful or or you know just to have some a better idea of what is going on, like I think tonight was great with Claudia she gave a lot of information that was pertinent to what people were asking so.

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colette bailey: There you go.

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frank murphy: Okay.

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frank murphy: All right, so no more hands up no I take it.

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frank murphy: So.

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frank murphy: Any new business that anybody wants to share.

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frank murphy: Any hands up okay.

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Vicki Halliday: Listen to.

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frank murphy: This i'm sorry.

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Elizabeth Wright: You would just verify that the regularly scheduled meetings will be the last Tuesday 7pm.

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frank murphy: Yes, that's what our that's what our.

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frank murphy: Yes.

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frank murphy: i'm committee comments any additional committee comments.

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Vicki Halliday: think was a very informative evening, it was great.

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Elizabeth Wright: It was it was great.

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frank murphy: Thank you vicki for putting that together that was great.

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colette bailey: Yes.

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frank murphy: Alright, so.

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frank murphy: I guess, we have to vote on a German right.

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frank murphy: So we adjourn.

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Okay.

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Vicki Halliday: good night everybody.

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Brian U.: Thanks guys, thanks to the for the attendees I really.

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frank murphy: appreciate it is really important, and i'm so glad we get we get quite a few people at these meetings, and I think that's great.

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frank murphy: Okay guys.

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Elizabeth Wright: You stay safe.

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goodnight goodbye everybody.

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Vicki Halliday: In this.

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Here we go.