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jim robb: hey Jerry everybody Jim here, as was a little date we're sorry i'm putting everybody on hold.

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james murez: yeah I was having some technical difficulties getting this started.

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jim robb: yeah everybody was well.

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james murez: who's on your committee.

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jim robb: All right, you got Brian.

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jim robb: Robin mark drago.

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james murez: way rob Robin.

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jim robb: Robin rosedale.

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james murez: Okay, who else.

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jim robb: We got mark Rocco Brian.

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jim robb: Mark Rocco.

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james murez: I don't see him, you know you can promote them to European Oh, I can make you co host hold on.

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jim robb: I put Brian in there, please.

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james murez: I haven't found him yet.

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just a minute.

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james murez: So you can start promoting your people as well.

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james murez: I see a Peter.

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james murez: there's Brian.

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james murez: Who else I got Brian.

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jim robb: Okay i'm putting everybody else in we got.

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jim robb: Who is a.

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james murez: what's jose's.

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jim robb: elite Ellis.

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jim robb: Okay, we have a.

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jim robb: listers in there.

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jim robb: Ryan.

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jim robb: I don't you make Brian co host to.

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jim robb: Your gym.

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james murez: Oh there's an allaster did you get alister yeah.

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jim robb: I put her in I think.

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james murez: Okay, I just did two.

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jim robb: Okay.

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Who else.

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jim robb: it's a big panel the guy from lift is put him in.

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james murez: His vicki on your committee.

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jim robb: No, no, she was looking for you.

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james murez: Who else.

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jim robb: Who else we miss him Ryan.

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Brian Averill: i'm not sure, but Jim make me a Co host.

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james murez: Nick Brian a Co host.

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jim robb: well.

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jim robb: I got her.

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jim robb: Morgan Ross.

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james murez: brian's a Co host.

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jim robb: All right.

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james murez: Who else.

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jim robb: Now.

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james murez: Are all these people on your committee.

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jim robb: That are we got panelists we got bird we got scooters we got the lapd.

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james murez: Brian Do you see any more people were missing.

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Brian Averill: We should have some folks from CB 11 on here Eric and or Alec.

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Brian Averill: don't see them.

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james murez: phone number.

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Brian Averill: I don't think that would be them.

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james murez: there's somebody that says zoom something.

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jim robb: operative it should be in there.

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james murez: who's this who's this person Z oh.

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james murez: let's allow them to talk, you have your hand up for some reason zoom person.

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james murez: Go ahead.

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Zoom Cnccla14: Who are you this is Eric from CD 11 sorry, this is my city account and we have weird names.

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james murez: and

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Brian Averill: will promote it, keep keep Eric imagine.

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james murez: yeah I just promoted into panelists.

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james murez: If you're if you belong on the panel raise your hand, please.

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james murez: That would be star nine on your cell phone, I see a number ending in 509.

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james murez: Calling user one there's another one who's calling user ID if you belong on the panel, please raise your hand.

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james murez: Oh, is she on your panel.

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james murez: No okay so minutia have to wait.

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jim robb: You see, Peter as release.

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james murez: I saw Peter earlier but I don't.

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Brian Averill: See Peters Peters engine peers in there with a stylish hat and the beautiful shirt.

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Brian Averill: Everybody.

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jim robb: Warm yet.

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james murez: Well, you know a lot of people.

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jim robb: Are you.

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james murez: Are you making any motions tonight tumors is strictly presentation.

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Brian Averill: We have the MIC.

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jim robb: Okay, one motion from Nick.

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james murez: How many people are on your committee.

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jim robb: Mark Rocco Robin release Dale Jason Tom which is missing Andrew micah Brian Nick Noel Peter and Mel.

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Brian Averill: We have 10 we need six for a quorum, we have achieved quorum so we're doing.

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james murez: Okay, have a great sorry about it to everybody, I was having technical difficulties getting my machine going here have a great meeting.

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jim robb: All right, sorry everybody.

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jim robb: Who we missing here.

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jim robb: All right, anybody else it's missing raise your hands, please.

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jim robb: And again sorry about this DC anybody from lapd Brian.

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Brian Averill: Adult don't think would be a captain hambrick or officer contrast.

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jim robb: All right, 704.

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jim robb: hi.

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jim robb: Are you there.

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jim robb: Hello.

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jim robb: 704.

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jim robb: All right.

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jim robb: let's let's get it started and we'll try to figure out what we can do here.

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jim robb: All right, i'm gonna call roll call.

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Brian Averill: Oh, and I and.

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Brian Averill: All the meetings order Jim.

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jim robb: I would like to call the meeting to order.

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Brian Averill: At.

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jim robb: Ryan roll call you here, I am niche and to cello.

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jim robb: You see him Ryan don't all right mark drago.

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jim robb: Robin.

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jim robb: No, no, well yet.

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Brian Averill: No, no, no, sir.

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jim robb: Okay awesome Andrew.

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Andrew Mika: yeah.

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jim robb: Thank you Mel.

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jim robb: All right, do we have quorum Ryan.

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Brian Averill: We do we have six of us.

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jim robb: Okay.

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Brian Averill: So, nobody can leave.

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jim robb: Nobody leaves alright everybody sorry for the sorry for the delay wasn't it wasn't our fault, so I apologize, this is the second time we've had that all right to get through some little stuff right now i'd like to approve the agenda as pre presented in amanda do I have a second.

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Brian Averill: i'll suck it up.

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jim robb: All right, thank you, Brian and the approval of the Minutes from the last meeting is presented, do I have a second.

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jim robb: Okay.

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Brian Averill: All your other.

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jim robb: All right, oh, we should prep members to declare any conflict of interest or la parte communications relating the items on this meetings agenda.

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jim robb: I see none alright.

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jim robb: So the Chair report is we're hoping that la P skew me la beauty and CD 11 are going to talk to us about the pilot Program.

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jim robb: we're going to talk about some stuff going on on the boardwalk with some rental companies and then we're going to also have.

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jim robb: lapd if we can get them in talk about enforcement and then basically talk to you guys about the pilot program that everybody that invited from lift and bird and wheels and and all you guys so.

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jim robb: that's what this is basically for so that we can kind of get a lock on all the scooters in an area and talk about the pilot program and other scooter companies that are coming in, I see Nick from Vo so we'll let him speak to all right y'all.

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jim robb: I guess.

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Brian Averill: When I think Brian just quickly, just so everyone knows, so this is obviously this meeting focuses on the scooters.

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Brian Averill: That sort of breaks down into two issues there's the unlicensed unpermitted on GEO fence stuff that's being rented on the boardwalk.

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Brian Averill: And then there's a there's the company who we've worked with in the past and have been super cooperative so we're going to start, I think, with Eric and see the 11th new motion.

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Brian Averill: to sort of wrangle what's going on on the boardwalk and then we could we could move on to the companies and discuss how we can all cooperate so.

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Brian Averill: we're going to do, public comment now but Eric if.

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Brian Averill: If you could start things off after public comment that would be great to sort of break down that new the new the new motion and possible new ordinance so let's move on to public comment.

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Brian Averill: hands up for public comment I see one to.

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Brian Averill: Two hands going once going twice.

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Brian Averill: Judy i'm gonna unmute you.

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Brian Averill: Okay.

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Judy Goldman: Can you hear me, can you hear me now.

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Judy Goldman: Yes, so, or is this public comment on the scooter issue.

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Judy Goldman: Non agenda.

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Judy Goldman: items on a channel okay i'll make a general comment and just simply say that I hope that whatever you talk about includes.

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Judy Goldman: The way that the ocean for a walk and the walk streets are really contiguous and so that anything that is me is decided about the ocean from walk scooters or anything else takes into consideration, any unintended consequences that could fall into the walk streets, thank you.

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Brian Averill: Thank you, thanks.

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Brian Averill: Erica or.

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Brian Averill: let it go go for it.

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Erica Moore: hey guys, I just want to thank you for your service and I just want to applaud you for taking this on, and I would like to say that i'm hoping that he's destined to thanks a lot I can't wait to hear you guys tonight.

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Brian Averill: I do not see any other public comment anybody else.

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Brian Averill: know.

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Brian Averill: You ready.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): i'm happy to be here, thank you for the invitation I guess, let me provide some opening remarks just to frame the discussion tonight and then talk a little bit about the steps that we are taking, as the Council office to address issues on ocean front walk.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): So the first thing is just in terms of a little context the scooter program or does either dockless mobility pilot Program.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): was created at this point like two and a half years ago I it's hard to believe that it's been that long since we've been living with scooters on our streets, but it has been.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): That long we did we took a cautious approach to introducing them to Los Angeles, with the pilot program that pilot program ran for two years.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): The first year it was about a year long pilot program followed by a rigorous evaluation process.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): And then the the transition to a permanent program took about a year because the the lessons learned from the pilot period were very significant and it took it required a lot of structural changes, a deity in order to pivot to a permanent program that permanent program was.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): Months ago at this point.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): And so what we're living with now is is the Program.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): And so, as with every every piece of city, you know everything in the city, we are always open to feedback on how it's going.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): But I do want to be very clear that the pilot period is over, and at this point, we are running a full fledge regulatory program out of the Department of Transportation they are regulated by the same unit that does our taxis, and a lot of the.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): expertise and the Department has about regulating for higher transportation.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): applied to this program.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): So I did ask.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): Jose Elias is in a couple of his colleagues a duty.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): To provide a presentation about.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): Updating on basically what's going on with.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): With with the program and.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): Some recent information about.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): How different things in Venice.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): are working, including the special operations zones restrictions that front walk restrictions on the Wall Street.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): And, as well as kind of their conclusions about how well those various efforts are.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): And then.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): kind of based on their evaluation and the feedback we're seeing from the Community as a community still.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): has a lot of impacts on.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): A walk around devices.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): While do it, you know, without revealing too much ahead of Jose.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): You know, beauty is finding that generally speaking it's not very regulated devices that are operating on a different walk it is private devices that are operated by third party rental.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): rental companies that are you know kind of the mom and pop scooter shops on those aren't walking nearby so With that in mind our office very recently introduced a motion aimed at regulating that problem by restricting business activity kind of from those mom and POPs to.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): improve notice requirements so that way there is basically no way that someone could rent the scooter from one of those businesses and not understand where they are and are not allowed to be because that's really kind of the root of the problem is folks are pleading ignorance.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): And so, so we want there to be you know no excuse so that way, if you know if it's happening and lapd pulls you over for it.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): That.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): there's basically you know.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): You had to have known, so the way that we're trying to do that.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): At the point of the rental.

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1609****346: require ample notification.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): Both in the store and as part of the rental agreement, including when you are signing the rental agreement, there is a separate signature or initial required next to a statement that the device is not allowed on a walk and like that.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): So you have to specifically acknowledge that that restriction and thanks to judy's comments we will add the wall street's to that to that requirement.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): And it also for businesses that are located, you know basically Western Pacific we defined it as 500 feet within 500 feet of ocean front walk.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): If you are displaying you know if you're basically advertising.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): Factor you rent scooters outside of your storefront.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): we're going to require that that you that you display the scooters with a sign that says Oh, by the way, if you rent it here you're not allowed to write it here.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): So that should cut down on on the advertising and the attractive nuisance of people think thinking that this would be a fun way to experience the boardwalk.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): And also, and maybe this is.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): The most important part is, if you are one of these ocean from walk adjacent businesses we're going to require that if you are.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): renting a device that cannot be written on oceanfront.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): lock that you have to walk with that customer and that device to at least 100 yards east of ocean front walk to again reiterate the fact that it is not welcome on oceanfront walk.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): And that will be a significant drag on their employee time as well, so it really could start cutting into the business model that we're seeing at some of the shops on the on the boardwalk.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): So that's the summary of the motion, you know, this is the first step we're expecting it to get heard public works committee this week and hopefully go to Council shortly thereafter, that is a that request that that motion is.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): requested the city attorney drafting ordinance.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): But fortunately we work very closely with the city attorney's office and drafting this motion so that way they can turn around and ordinance in fairly short order, there should be no surprises, but this.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): So you know, hopefully we're looking at regulation in the near very near future for those mom and POPs.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): happy to take any questions from the Committee on.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): That point now, otherwise I can turn it over to do T for their presentation.

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Brian Averill: Noel if you have a question.

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Brian Averill: Can you.

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Noel Johnston: unmute myself yeah I know who is enforcing this.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): The it basically would become a general ordinance in the city, at which point PD is the primary enforcement arm.

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Brian Averill: And Eric who who would be cited.

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Brian Averill: Would it be the the person renting it for the person writing it.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): Well it's already illegal for the person to write it there, so they're already subject to citation you know lapd views that as a relatively low priority, because you know they they are also dealing with crime.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): and violence and all the other things that we have in the Community, so this is hopefully so, but this basically also makes it.

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1609****346: A violation for the business owner if they don't rent.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): The device in accordance with the provisions of this.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): So enforcement is a great question and we will have to be working with.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): The attorney's office to make sure that it's drafted in the way that that that makes sense.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): But.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): If the right now the business owner has no.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): interaction and we want to make it clear that it's their job.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): to educate their own customers on where they can and cannot.

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Brian Averill: be done, I think Noel has a follow up and.

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Noel Johnston: made a motion that we would like to a park ranger would have Parker.

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Noel Johnston: Possibly in for something like this.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): park Rangers are you know certified public safety officers.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): That.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): That have kind of that fitness same law enforcement credential that police officer has said.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): So they would be.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): able to enforce if we were successful in securing a park ranger.

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Noel Johnston: sounds like a great idea.

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Noel Johnston: To me it sounded like it last week last month and it sounds like a better one this.

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jim robb: Just a second guys i'm trying to get a.

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jim robb: The lapd in here they're not able to get in also mark Rogers Captain emmerich right there mark Rocco is trying to get in sorry about this we're.

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robertthibodeau: Are you proposing any increased signage on ocean for a walk is one.

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robertthibodeau: thing that as a frequent ocean for a walk person myself is, I noticed that there's no signage that I see between.

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robertthibodeau: What is it Venice boulevard and Washington, you could be on there, you would have no way of knowing I mean I understand the waiver form that you're signing, but we all sign those things I signed them when I go skiing I never read the damn thing.

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robertthibodeau: You know, but if you had a sign that says no III scooters no III bikes I think people would get the idea right now it's pretty ambiguous.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): yeah you'll you may remember that our office work pretty closely with the county on signage on the bike path and I don't know if that made me i'm curious actually to hear it, that made a significant difference.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): So there is a you know, an approved sign I think there's always a balance between you know, there are so many rules, and those are front walk and part of the issue, as well as there's also.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): Somebody signs and you know with with signed letter, and so you know, in one way to solve that is make them, you know more graphical and you know.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): And more more concise but I also you know, want to be sensitive to not just like completely littering the Community with aluminum on every single sign on every single post, so we need to figure out what the right balance is there.

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robertthibodeau: I haven't seen.

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robertthibodeau: I have not seen a sign saying no no scooters etc between the Pier in between between when we're I maybe they're down at when we're Dan, but I have not seen them up by the beer at all so maybe maybe the rough I just missed him but anyway thanks for the answer.

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Mark Nedlin: Okay extra.

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Mark Nedlin: android can I can I ask a question, please.

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Brian Averill: I think Andrew his hand was up, then we can go to you mark.

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Andrew Mika: what's the citation to the business owner.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): And in terms of how much is it.

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Andrew Mika: yeah assuming that like is it per scooter assuming they violate.

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Andrew Mika: This what's the like, is it meaningful or or people just going to incorporate it into their cost of doing business.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): I think those are exactly the types of questions that we're going to work out when we look at the motion is a request to draft an ordinance, and so one of the things that the ordinance will have to include is what the penalties are.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): And what code section that lives in terms of who exactly responsible for enforcement, because if it's in a code section, for example, that street services investigators and for us that's different than a code section that lapd enforces.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): So those are exactly the types of details that we need to work on with this odd attorney's office once they're actually writing the specific ordinance language and figuring out where it lives in the muni code.

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Andrew Mika: Okay, thank you.

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Mark Nedlin: yeah thanks for the for the Info I live on oceanfront walk in with respect to the signs, I mean they're currently lots of signs.

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Mark Nedlin: instructing visitors that this is a residential neighborhood and that no amplified music and.

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Mark Nedlin: and other things relating to noise levels, I don't think anybody ever pays attention to those I mean there, there are people.

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Mark Nedlin: routinely parked in the parking lots of blessed music sometimes very late into the evening, nobody enforces it and this goes to the park Rangers because they walk around they do nothing about.

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Mark Nedlin: Why do you think you know any kind of sign, what about he likes would be any more effective than the signs about the you know no loud music, and this is a residential area.

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Brian Averill: Eric you want to tackle that.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): I mean, I mean I think that's exactly the question about finance and why signage is an important component to a larger strategy, but it's not sufficient and that's really why I think we honed in on the the point of rental.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): Because we want to say what are these people already having to look at and some in particularly you know, a separate signature next to.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): Next to an explanation of where you are not allowed to ride, I think, is probably you know hope is hopefully much more effective than just putting up a sign on a lamppost.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): At least that's our theory, but so like said, you know we We believe there should be there should be enough signage but just littering the boardwalk with signs on whatever the latest nuisances I think is not a long term sustainable solution for this area.

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Brian Averill: gotcha thanks Eric Robin go for it.

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Robin Rudisill: yeah first well done Eric this is sounds really good, I guess, the only real question is enforcement and is the lapd going to be willing and make it a priority, I have two quick things one.

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Robin Rudisill: Can you be sure that for the walk streets you're including all of the north Venice walk streets, all the way down to Washington.

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Robin Rudisill: Not just down to Venice boulevard needs to be the whole area because there's a lot of scooter activity down here too and.

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Robin Rudisill: Great Thank you and then secondly, you talked about the 100 feet from ocean front walk you know the earliest, they can start writing does that get the past the walk streets.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): um well let's see so 500 feet is basically promotional front walk to Pacific the requirement on walking them at least 100 yards to 300 feet is like you know at that point what 60% of the way to Pacific, so I guess.

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Robin Rudisill: Well that'll land right in a walk street.

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Robin Rudisill: just add, but not on a walk street you know up speedway or whatever right Okay, I would appreciate that clarification, thank you.

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Brian Averill: cool thanks welcome James miras.

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james murez: There we go.

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james murez: I heard you say three things.

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james murez: 100 yards to me sounds like a lot of distance because that's going to take them past speedway.

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james murez: And that means that they're going to have to start off in the middle of the block which is most likely going to be an alley and then that raises the question.

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james murez: Because there's so many of these people and they're spread out across the entire distance of North Venice.

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james murez: Or the alleys going in the right direction for them to be able to ride where they want to go, they just going to put them out on.

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james murez: On Pacific and they're going to have to turn around and go the wrong direction on a one way street, which is actually an alley.

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james murez: And that brings up the next point that if you're restricting sidewalks or or you said you're going to restrict the walk streets why aren't you also restricting sidewalks in one way streets.

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james murez: Because speedway is a one way street, so what you're going to create is a whole new circulation pattern for these things interacting with all of the cars that are moving throughout the same area.

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james murez: During the summer that's particularly a bad idea, because it's very crowded and that's going to cause all sorts of additional new traffic problems, so I think that's something that has to be very, very carefully thought out where what is the pattern of the actual scooter going to be.

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james murez: If you actually want people to follow the rules and the intent, I understand is that you want them to follow the rules, you have to figure out how are they going to get to and from.

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james murez: Wherever they're starting from an ending up I think that's really important to think about that, especially with the hundred yards issue because that puts them already well away and when they come back they're going to have to theoretically stop 100 yards away.

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james murez: that's also another big question mark how's that going to work, how did they get back to the shop at that point.

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james murez: And then the last thing I wanted to say.

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james murez: In my opinion.

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james murez: there's there's a an enforcement element that's not used very often in the city, but the state uses it quite a bit, particularly in the farmers market industry.

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james murez: it's called a penalty matrix and in a penalty matrix the first offense is maybe $1 the second offense is $5 the third offense is $150 the fourth offense maybe $1,000 and by implementing that structure.

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james murez: The the enforcement is not just to get another citation and it's another $10 which I think is what Brian was alluding to is it's just going to become a cost of doing business but actually the matrix would allow you to pre define.

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james murez: How expensive it's going to get to be to the point that maybe you even want to take away their business license to being able to operate their business on ocean broadwalk.

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james murez: So those are my comments, thank you.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): people's minds are very well taken Thank you.

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Brian Averill: Thanks Jim.

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Brian Averill: i'm going to permit them to speak vicki do you have a question.

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Vicki Halliday: I do um I mean my my question has to do with.

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Vicki Halliday: The the users in these new restrictions that you're talking about I live on a walk street between Pacific and May.

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Vicki Halliday: Pacific has very narrow sidewalks they're not a da compliant there nothing it's hard to get around the light Poles in certain cases, if you're even carrying groceries.

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Vicki Halliday: We have these things parked on Pacific constantly and it's like navigating blocks of scooters already and I don't blame the scooter companies, I blame the writers, who are just selfish bastards.

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Vicki Halliday: So you know what are we going to do about that about selfish people who ride these things and leave them in front of my steps to my house, I mean every other place, and again I don't blame the scooter companies but it's a situation that has been created.

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Vicki Halliday: By just the ability to leave these things everywhere, so I think that ending it at Pacific needs to be looked at, because Pacific.

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Vicki Halliday: has no docking areas there's there's no place to leave them you look at the pedestrian sign at sunset and Pacific were two people had been killed and you can't get across that.

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Vicki Halliday: way, very often, and the corners are always blocked so that would be my concern about you know the Pacific cut off, thank you.

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Brian Averill: More let's keep it moving.

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Erica Moore: hi thanks so much Eric um I think it just really all boils down to this has to be thoughtfully really thoughtful and safety has to be number one.

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Erica Moore: And it's a lot of the things people are addressing.

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Erica Moore: I mean it is all about enforcement because it doesn't matter, you can have as many regulations that you want, but if there's no way to effectively enforce this it's meaningless and it's.

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Erica Moore: i've been saying, from the start, I think that the scooter companies should provide some sort of almost like a major meter maid type service.

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Erica Moore: That does patrol around and make sure that the scooters are parked appropriately that they're not obstructing that they're not in areas are not allowed in that people aren't writing double and you know tandem and triple on a scooter which happens a lot.

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Erica Moore: I think there's there's multiple things that could be an issue or that are an issue already and I think that.

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Erica Moore: Some of the things that Mr muir is addressed are things you really have to consider because.

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Erica Moore: How do you get these scooters back to these people they're really does need to be a docking system and I I almost in my personal opinion, think that there just should be scooter free areas, and I think signage wise.

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Erica Moore: let's look at doing something really simple like the red circle, with a scooter in it, I mean that's the most obvious easy thing for anybody who doesn't speak whatever language.

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Erica Moore: Everybody knows what that is that's very universal and really simple so that's what I have to say, thanks so much guys.

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jim robb: Just real quick, we do have Captain emirates on here so that after we have a CD low I mean a Jose speak then we're going to also have Captain amorous speak as well, so.

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jim robb: Okay everybody's here I promoted everybody to panelists because I don't know who's who so let's just be considerate and move this along and everybody just.

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jim robb: be nice.

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Brian Averill: we're going to end with Judy and then we could.

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Brian Averill: move on to Jose and then I.

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Brian Averill: Can chime in.

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Judy Goldman: Well, I have a question if scooters are not permitted on wall.

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Judy Goldman: And all the problems that are being described on Pacific, because the.

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Brian Averill: breaking up God.

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Judy Goldman: not permitted on the walk streets and I it's just a question I have a statement, it seems to me that.

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Judy Goldman: renting these scooters on ocean front walk and then turning them loose in an area where they're really not permitted.

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Judy Goldman: It seems illogical to me so i'm just wondering why are they even being a rented on ocean front walk is there, another way to do this, so that we have a zone.

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Judy Goldman: That is protected, I mean it's semi protected but it's a big temptation to let somebody get on a scooter one block for half a block from a place that they're not supposed to be writing Thank you.

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Brian Averill: Thanks Judy Eric if you have any thoughts on on any of those comments, please.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): yeah i'll take i'll take them in order, I think.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): vicki and Eric has comments both were much more related to the dockless program that that Jose is going to talk about in terms of parking restrictions, so I will let him take those after his presentation.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): As far as judy's comment, I think I mean I philosophically I agree, I think that there is a question about what.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): You know the city can't overreach and in regulating businesses and just straight up banning certain things necessarily I mean it could escalate to that level.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): But we're going to try this process, first, and you know, we could have if it doesn't work, then we could have to escalate it.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): I do you think that jim's idea about escalating fines and whatnot is a really great one.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): And I do think that you know some businesses that currently rent you know bicycle candy scooters on the on oceanfront walk may decide that the the scooter part of their business is.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): No longer makes sense, under the new rules, because they just don't have enough employees to to handle the rental etc, etc, so this may prove or onerous enough to chase them to these operators often often oceanfront one.

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Brian Averill: Thanks Eric.

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Brian Averill: Jim rob you want to move on to Jose.

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jim robb: Yes, let's move on to Jose.

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Jose Elias: hi everyone, my name is Jose alias and i'm with led ot can on the line we should have Vladimir and Eric who are also on our team so i'm going to try and breeze through the presentation, just so we could try and answer a lot of questions and I know that.

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Jose Elias: You have several so I want to talk about our dockless program and now you have issues now with the other scooters that are being rented on the boardwalk so let me go ahead and share my screen.

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Jose Elias: Okay, can you see my.

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Brian Averill: screen yep.

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Jose Elias: Okay cool.

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Jose Elias: Alright, so let me start.

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Jose Elias: At the top here.

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Jose Elias: Okay, so the first slide it's going to show you the existing vendor special operations zones that we implemented from listening to a lot of your feedback.

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Jose Elias: And so the special operations on like almost two miles, and we are special policies in place and, as you can see the Green is the the area and all the red.

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Jose Elias: All the red areas are basically the restricted areas, following a lot of your comments, we we GEO fence the the canals and then we go ahead and an extended the canals across Washington and then we also GEO fence the.

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Jose Elias: The walk streets for the walks rates oceanfront walk and also the bike path and those dots represent the the drop zones that we that we installed about 26.

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Jose Elias: Initially, and then additional 11 along gabby Kenny once we expanded that area as well.

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Jose Elias: And this slide shows the 23rd initial 26 drops those that we implemented and so that gives you a quick summary snapshot of what you're seeing.

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Jose Elias: And then the new 11 drop zones long out of Kenya you seen those are like the first ones that we've installed within the city and those are specific corrals on street where where you're going to start seeing a lot of a scooters park there.

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Jose Elias: So one of the things that we also heard from several conversations is is a concern is about.

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Jose Elias: scooters riding along the walk streets, so we have done initial analysis and we found out that the most impacted our North of Washington boulevard and those are the ones with the yellow boxes, those are the 10 top 10 most impacted.

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Jose Elias: walk streets.

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Jose Elias: So, so in the text you're going to start to see the policies that we implemented in the special operations zone.

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Jose Elias: So each operator shall not exceed a maximum of 150 be, of course, within the genesis was the at any time, so they do have a Max CAP for each company.

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Jose Elias: And then opera operators are authorized to deploy rebounds vehicles only into led to identified partners, which are which are those about 30 somethings zones that you've already seen.

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Jose Elias: And then, and then they could deploy between the hours of five to 10am daily and only five per zone, and then the new policy that we added once we did the analysis and talking to.

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Jose Elias: To lobby constituents, is that we implement to the Venice beach walks rates policy and you can't deploy start or end a trip up within the the walk streets, we understand that you may see.

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Jose Elias: Some scooters that may get through, but I think the conversations that we had is that there is a sometimes a delay, depending on signal.

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Jose Elias: And, and they do have a five mile per hour limit, so if they do happen to go through there they're typically slowing down, but it may or may not seem that it's slowing down because they are usually going down a grade.

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Jose Elias: But i'll show you some of our initial analysis, as some of the things that we've done to.

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Jose Elias: alleviate some of those concerns, so we did add 12 know writing on sidewalks stencils.

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Jose Elias: And here's the locations from ozone to park avenue listening to your concerns.

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Jose Elias: And again, so this was well before we implemented via.

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Jose Elias: The policy along the walks routes This shows the TRIPS by segment in these areas by the walks rates, as you can see, it goes from red to green.

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Jose Elias: And, in this instance they're mostly yellow in the middle before implementation back in August of 2020 until October, when we implement the new policy.

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Jose Elias: And as you can see the switch started to switch over to mostly green so definitely significantly increase the type of trips that are going through the walk streets.

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Jose Elias: And I also did an analysis to start looking at.

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Jose Elias: vehicles that were riding along the.

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Jose Elias: ocean from walk I know that was has been a concern so as you can see, by the slide a lot of the TRIPS are ending along speedway.

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Jose Elias: But not many are are along ocean from walk which is down here on the border here so as you can see a lot of them are along speedway a few trickle in here and there, but a majority on the long Venice and Washington boulevard.

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Jose Elias: And as something to keep in mind that we still have our three on one system and that's how we we receive a lot of our our complaints or or concerns, so we still see those and we try to get to those service requests as soon as possible.

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Jose Elias: So some of the things that we've seen and Eric could probably attest to some of the things that that he's seen out there because he's constantly on the field.

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Jose Elias: we're walk vendors renting schools, without restrictions so that's The thing that we're trying to get a handle of.

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Jose Elias: When we implement these policies, a lot of the concerns went down, but I think I don't know from now is that if the new concerns are from the scooters that are being rented that are unrestricted along the along the boardwalk.

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Jose Elias: So again, a boardwalk suitors and make it appear that the geo fence is not working.

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Jose Elias: And it's going to require additional monitoring tissue operating from being regulatory requirements and that's why we have Eric on the line to so he could attest to some of the things has that he sees while he's down there.

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Jose Elias: Are you able to unlock unlock his uh his uh his phone or.

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Jose Elias: unmute him.

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Jose Elias: Very.

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Brian Averill: Imposing.

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Jose Elias: I don't know if he's on a private color because I know he was calling in he's a.

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Vladimir Gallegos GIS/DATA LADOT: eric's muted.

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Call-In User_1: Hello.

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Call-In User_1: hi can you hear me yep yes hi i'm Erica was on one of the senior class station investigators with led ot as Jose was bringing up.

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Call-In User_1: Our our staff goes out every day and patrols the air it's made sure to either submit some some additional 311 to have these Kevin doctors companies rectify all of the problems.

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Call-In User_1: And if we see anything egregious will will reach out to the companies themselves and let them know.

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Call-In User_1: That we see a problem in regards to the ocean front walk I know i've taken a few a few times over there, take a look and and I have noticed that there are a lot of.

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Call-In User_1: brick and mortar rental places and it, it can be easily misconstrued as the darkness companies, the permanent doctors copies that are operating within the ocean front walk or or even on the.

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Call-In User_1: Even on the walk streets but.

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Call-In User_1: Overall, from from listening to some suggestions in regards to to these brick and mortar establishments that that there could be some.

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Call-In User_1: Some time that it can help alleviate a lot of the problems that you may be seeing, but our staff overall does patrol the whole area of the Venice SLC to to make sure that.

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Call-In User_1: All the permitted companies are adhering to to the guidelines as best we can.

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jim robb: And who else did you want to promote.

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Brian Averill: A lot of men.

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Vladimir Gallegos GIS/DATA LADOT: Batman yeah um one thing I was going to say is that this, the problem of.

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Vladimir Gallegos GIS/DATA LADOT: kind of private scooters is something that we're not to saying just inbound, so this is something we saw little glimpses of this at the latest sequel via heart of La.

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Vladimir Gallegos GIS/DATA LADOT: which was a huge event, you have MacArthur Park, you know, we had a boyle heights chinatown and one of the things is that you do end up seeing people with private scooters going in and I thought.

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Vladimir Gallegos GIS/DATA LADOT: And we look at the data and we tried to look at these various things, and this is something that is, we are aware of and it's happening in other places, also but, in general, actually, the fact that we have licensed a licensed program with.

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Vladimir Gallegos GIS/DATA LADOT: Different companies who are here who have representatives, you know we tried to hold them, you know accountable and they are being accountable and i'm seeing, at least in the data, you know.

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Vladimir Gallegos GIS/DATA LADOT: So, but it's really important like Venice and all the various complexities that menaces to Santa Monica being a big you know draw for people is at the vanguard of various things so.

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Vladimir Gallegos GIS/DATA LADOT: You know just that we we feel like yeah.

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Brian Averill: Excellent.

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jim robb: I just wanna I just want to make a quick comment I know we have dropped zones, but there are places like North Venice and Washington down there with all those businesses.

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jim robb: And I mean on a Saturday there's 300 scooters and these aren't the boardwalk scooters, these are the people are on this call.

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jim robb: So I just want to you know kind of validate that I don't know what you guys are looking but North Dennis and down on Washington on a Saturday there's 300 some scooter so.

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jim robb: hi Peter so Peter know, everybody knows, so that I want to find out what we can do about them picking them up, so that the businesses like whaler and terrorist and all those are can do business because it's crazy down there.

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jim robb: that's just my comment.

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peter: Sherman fall problem.

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Brian Averill: Was.

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Brian Averill: So.

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peter: I say it's a trip and fall problem.

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Brian Averill: Oh gotcha right.

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Brian Averill: I wanna I want to be respectful of captain and bricks time so let's move on to him, Captain number, if you have anything to add, we would love to hear your perspective, we know you guys have bigger fish to fry than scooters but.

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Captain Steve Embrich: hey good evening everybody, I want to thank the dnc for taking on this important issue, I am concerned, for a couple reasons, because if you remember last December, we did have a homicide that was related to one of the smaller mom and pop brick and mortar locations.

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Captain Steve Embrich: which was related to scooter no more recently about a month ago, we did have a shooting that also occurred at a scooter rental place.

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Captain Steve Embrich: Not to mention all of our grand theft auto because the stolen electric bites also get included as a stolen vehicle so it's the big is the fastest growing.

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Captain Steve Embrich: segment of our grand theft auto population so right now, they represent about 9% of all of our grand theft auto this year.

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Captain Steve Embrich: So it's it's a whole new segment that we have to learn to work on, as far as crime prevention.

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Captain Steve Embrich: And i'm really glad that you guys are having this discussion tonight because that's going to help us, not to mention.

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Captain Steve Embrich: The increase in traffic accidents, I don't have that data with me, because that falls under West traffic division, but i'm sure they also share concerns we recently.

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Captain Steve Embrich: Had a accident in which two people on a scooter killed a pedestrian so something we want to pay attention to so number one to address the signage issue.

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Captain Steve Embrich: I know we are getting polluted the signs that purpose for the signage is for allowed to enable us to do, enforcement because that serves as the first notification, for example.

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Captain Steve Embrich: Like no trespassing we've enforcement requires a notification for a set of the signage serves as a notification, rather than a police officer going there and issuing a verbal warning.

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Captain Steve Embrich: Number two the enforcement somewhat problematic just to do to my deployment meditation so we just lost most of our summer loans.

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Captain Steve Embrich: So, honestly, what I can deploy right now on ocean front block is two officers per watch, so I have three watches spending over 23 hours and I already have them tasked with number one crime suppression number two enforcement of.

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Captain Steve Embrich: Because the city and and non governmental partners went through considerable expense, we need to maintain Venice beach if we want to make it a tourist destination again.

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Captain Steve Embrich: And in addition to that, just not the.

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Captain Steve Embrich: Deployment shortages, but enforcement someone becomes problematic for your police officer who's walking up and down Venice boulevard because I certainly shouldn't walk.

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Captain Steve Embrich: Because our enforcement would be directly with scooter operators, and those are not really the people who.

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Captain Steve Embrich: I guess i'm most deserving of the citation, because if we cite the visitor tourists from out of town or the visitor from outside of the Venice area.

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Captain Steve Embrich: they're going to get their citation and probably never come back again because it's going to be it's going to stay in school, a bus, so we need really need to.

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Captain Steve Embrich: address the vendors I don't know if you guys already discussed that at first part of me.

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Captain Steve Embrich: Because we missed it, but what we have observed, is that the larger vendors have already very effectively worked on the geo fencing.

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Captain Steve Embrich: The scooters that we do see come on to the boardwalk who are officers have encountered, because when we can do enforcement is on the major holidays, the folks that we have encountered our visitors from out of town.

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Captain Steve Embrich: or people coming from other parts of the city and thought well why else but I ride a scooter I rented a scooter to ride that ocean front walk.

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Captain Steve Embrich: And we explained to them that you know the vendors should have explained that to you and the scooter should not even be able to operate on here, so I think that GEO fencing is very important.

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Captain Steve Embrich: And we are wholeheartedly in agreement, as far as the docking where the drop zones, because they are all the scooters are all over the place right now.

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Captain Steve Embrich: penalty matrix for the vendors, who are operating in bad faith is also outstanding idea, all the way progressive all the way up to a minor fine growing in severity each time.

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Captain Steve Embrich: For violations of those of the ordinances and I think that's it unless you have any questions.

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Brian Averill: Adult Thank you Captain number.

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jim robb: Thank you, thank you, Sarah sorry about that.

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jim robb: sorry about the late meeting.

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jim robb: I.

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jim robb: don't know probably she'd appreciate call me today and we'll get it figured out Thank you, Sir.

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Captain Steve Embrich: Thank you.

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Brian Averill: Okay, Jim you want to maybe move on to the companies that was a lot to digest for them.

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Brian Averill: If anyone from one of the companies has some comments.

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jim robb: that's the gym and.

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jim robb: Judy comment very quickly and then.

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jim robb: You know I think we may want to talk about the boardwalk and then to have these guys come in, so you know.

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jim robb: I would say.

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jim robb: ocean front walk asked questions about led to.

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jim robb: Do T and CD 11 and then we'll get the scooters.

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Brian Averill: shirt Jimmy has a question.

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Brian Averill: I think his hands up from before.

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jim robb: i'm going to put it down that all right.

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Brian Averill: Think she's up from before two.

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Judy Goldman: No, no, I don't I don't have a public comment.

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jim robb: All right.

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jim robb: Okay.

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jim robb: Is anybody on our board have comments that they want to or questions Nick.

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jim robb: Andrew anybody Robert.

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jim robb: Robin.

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Robin Rudisill: Who, this question is for, but when the captain was talking it struck me that what if there's some timeline after which any scooter that doesn't have do fence and gets impounded.

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Robin Rudisill: You know I just don't know how else we can.

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Robin Rudisill: regulate it, that would actually impact the business owner.

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Brian Averill: How would you keep track of that.

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Robin Rudisill: Well, it visually see that they were not GEO fenced.

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Robin Rudisill: I don't know how i'm finding work that's why I didn't really know.

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Brian Averill: Question go.

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Robin Rudisill: To go to, but it seems like that's something that these other scooter companies would pay attention to I just don't see how we're going to enforce these new rules with them.

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jim robb: All right, Robert why don't you ask your question and then, I have one hand up and then maybe if the CD 11.

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jim robb: can answer.

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jim robb: or one of those guys.

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robertthibodeau: have a question for you guys is what's the intent to keep these off of electric as well and push them over the Pacific, because.

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robertthibodeau: Pacific seems more dangerous like I could see scooter accidents on Pacific electric Scott, the pedestrians but.

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robertthibodeau: Honestly, it seems like is close to the kids on the scooters or kids and it would be a shame to see somebody get hurt you know electric seems a little safer for the scooter kids but i'm just throwing it out there, because I didn't realize, you were kicking them off of electric to.

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Robin Rudisill: speedway.

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robertthibodeau: Sorry, I said electric I meant speedway my bad Thank you.

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jim robb: Oh, my God James that had his hand up besides Jim here, so if you're out there.

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James: yeah i'm here.

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James: Okay, so i'm just trying to come at this from us solution oriented perspective, and one thing that came to mind, and I know this might be a little ways off, but i've seen those little cocoa delivery.

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James: Things in Santa Monica that deliver food, and I was thinking, what if there was a way that the scooters could drive themselves back to a docking or parking station once they were done.

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James: So if there's some way that they were almost instead of more like a scooter more like a skateboard with four wheels that also had a handlebar.

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James: So they're always up right there never on their sides as much, and then there is able to drive themselves back to wherever they need to be so that it's you know.

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James: Wherever they are they're just going to end up where they need to be and then second idea is that.

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James: The main use of these is to get from to and from Venice and Santa Monica between the two peers that's the biggest use case that i've seen.

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James: And people, of course, want to be by the beach, one of the biggest problems that we had previously, especially in Venice was that.

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James: The bike path is just way too narrow Santa Monica it's a little more doable it's a little more usable but in Venice is just too narrow, so if there was a second path.

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James: With also speed restrictions something low so that you're not really going that fast you're going maybe the same speed, as some of the other cruiser bikes where people can still go up and down and take that route.

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James: But this would be a separate path that they would be able to use that would be less congested than the bike path or the walk path so Those are just to kind of like ideas coming from a solution instead of just the restrictive point of view.

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jim robb: Thank you, thank you, James.

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jim robb: All right, Eric you're Jose you want to address those.

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jim robb: hang on one second mark.

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jim robb: Mark i'm you quick question we got it.

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Mark Nedlin: yeah in terms of the sex throw away, we have now a an extra special way for the bicycles and there are hundreds of bicycles on the on the boardwalk all the time, why would an extra way, for you know for for the scooters be any different.

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jim robb: Okay well take it thanks mark.

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jim robb: All right, you guys are up and then we'll go to the the other scooter companies that are pilot Program.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): I mean either settings there's some questions about technology and just want to remind folks that there is a real distinction between the private business Catholic calm the mom and POPs that are basically buying the scooters off of.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): You know Amazon or whatever and they're just renting them out, you know by by written agreement versus the very, very savvy companies that you have be represented here today.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): And those companies are regulated by the city and we're able to you know require them to have certain technology like GPS and God that enables the geo fencing.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): And so that's why you see that the strong distinction between the outcomes on the heavy regulation side large company versus mom and pop.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): So that so that just kind of is the framing on kind of why solutions are possible on on some piece of this problem that but not necessarily others.

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Brian Averill: that's your thing.

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jim robb: Alright, so I think that was maybe it for this part of our meeting.

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jim robb: How are we going to set this next thing off, is there a presentation that we can have.

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jim robb: From the scooter companies or are led it to kick us off or how do we want to do this.

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Brian Averill: Now, well, I think the REPS from the scooter companies just got a lot to digest so I suggest we open it up to them and hear what they have to say.

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Brian Averill: everyone's been raising issues about them, and I would love for them to have the opportunity to respond.

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jim robb: So put your hands up and we'll call you in order if you guys can do that just so we know where we're at.

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jim robb: sorry that I put everybody in a.

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jim robb: All right, there's mark Morgan, you want to go first.

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jim robb: hi Morgan.

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Morgan Roth: hey yeah I mean there was a lot to digest there, I appreciate.

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Morgan Roth: everyone's feedback, I mean largely you know, I think, where I would kind of couch, the issue is bright, we as companies have been working hand in hand.

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Morgan Roth: This is my my little pinging there we've been working together with la do T and the Council office to implement a number of solutions.

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Morgan Roth: And, and here we all are tonight bars be talking about issues that we cannot control right but that are actually outside of the program that we're currently in.

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Morgan Roth: I think you know i've been you know my first my first week on the job almost three and a half, four years ago, was that Venice neighborhood Council, well before any of the Joe solutions that were available today are were implemented, and we have come a long way, and here we are with.

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Morgan Roth: Some stakeholders that that have the ability to circumvent the rules in a way that get pinned on us, and I think.

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Morgan Roth: You know, largely because of this community and b O w committee and all the work that we put into this program that we've.

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Morgan Roth: tackled a lot of the challenges that we, as the microbial industry have faced in the early days, and I think that is something we should call out and highlight as a positive.

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Morgan Roth: Because that's that's government and action and working for the benefit of all of us, which, which I think is a good thing um.

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Morgan Roth: You know so again, a lot of digest I I you know put my camera off and wasn't entirely ready with a full blown presentation.

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Morgan Roth: You know, but it's always great to see all of your faces and hear about how things are looking and feeling and Venice, as always we're available to the Community.

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Morgan Roth: As we always have been, and anything that you all need you know we're again happy to work with the stakeholder group here to implement the right fix to make sure that the Community.

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Morgan Roth: Who who you know lives and breathes Venice every single day gets.

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Morgan Roth: You know the programs and the policies implemented that really benefit, you know everyone will also you know working toward providing solutions that.

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Morgan Roth: You know, get folks out of their cars and and and help with the traffic and congestion in the parking issues that also outside of micro mobility exists with.

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Morgan Roth: With with automobiles so i'll leave it there, I you know i'm from bird i've been with bird for for almost four years now working on particularly Venice and other.

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Morgan Roth: stuff throughout la so i'm happy to answer any bird related questions, maybe I perhaps Captain some of the thoughts from my other colleagues from other companies but, as always, here, to be resource to you all in this effort to solve a lot of these very.

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Morgan Roth: specific issues, so thank you.

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jim robb: and ask your question real quick, just like i'm going to ask everybody else there's 150 of year of these devices per scooter company.

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jim robb: How many scooters do you have operating in the Venice area, I see a lot of them all stacked up and also.

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jim robb: Maybe pick up times for locations like I said before, down there on Washington where there tends to be hundreds of them so and that's that'll be a question for everybody, but I guess you're my first test so.

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Morgan Roth: yeah i'll be the first victim here, so what I would say is that the special operations zone, and it has changed recently.

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Morgan Roth: So it's actually it should be a greater zone than what we had before, and that was a more recent change.

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Morgan Roth: We we we allocate 150 vehicles to the drop zones that we've been permitted to deploy to which is exactly you know what Jose had mentioned those those locations are the only locations, that all of the companies are allowed to drop to we have specific.

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Morgan Roth: requirements, you know we cannot deploy I believe it's more than five it's been so long and Kate who is our operations team is who's pinging me that you're right there and but you know what what I would say is you know it's, it is also Venice and we do see a lot of vehicles that get.

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Morgan Roth: That come into Venice from outside the special operations, so if you were looking at our fleet count on a Friday night or Saturday night or Sunday afternoon it's going to be greater than 150.

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Morgan Roth: And, as all you know who our residents there on the weekend, it can kind of be a little difficult to drive through it or operate.

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Morgan Roth: Any site, you know any sort of operations to to capture those vehicles and bring them back out and rebalance them.

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Morgan Roth: And so you know, on the weekend we speak openly about this with led ot and they see the efforts that our team puts out over the weekend and.

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Morgan Roth: Through you know throughout the day on the weekend to ensure that we we try to get back to that hundred and 50 number.

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Morgan Roth: is sometimes we do go past that and that's because many, many, many trips and in Venice and leave this so contrary to what was said before.

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Morgan Roth: About only trips in Venice going between Venice and Santa Monica actually a lot of lot of TRIPS just ended men is because y'all have great restaurants.

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Morgan Roth: you've got good you know good food good bars and so people will write in from elsewhere and then their vehicle remains, but then we have to contend on our end with the operations.

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Morgan Roth: Around traffic to capture those vehicles and bring them out of the soc, so it is a challenge, but we do only allocate 150 vehicles per day.

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Brian Averill: Excellent.

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jim robb: Jimmy i'm just gonna go down the line for since I see everybody so David fair banks, could you please there you go Thank you.

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David Fairbank (Lyft): Sir hi David fairburn comes general manager for California at list.

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David Fairbank (Lyft): So I echo a lot of the things Morgan said about you know this program and how we've iterated on it for a long time i've been i've been running this this operation since since it began in 2018 as well, so then through printer at all.

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David Fairbank (Lyft): One thing I would like to call out, while we are on this call to you know talk scooters because we have operated scooters and Venice, we do not currently operate scooters and in Venice.

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David Fairbank (Lyft): And we haven't since July so i'm you know happy to answer any questions, but we don't currently have a scooter operation.

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David Fairbank (Lyft): We operate for the reason.

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jim robb: For bikes are you guys.

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jim robb: To the same rule that there's only 150 allowed in the district, or does that same thing go for you and I.

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Will.

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David Fairbank (Lyft): yeah So it goes for bikes I will say we actually don't deploy bikes to Venice at all so because of specifically because of.

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David Fairbank (Lyft): The five to 10am deployment role, we would generally like to you know rebalance throughout the day, but that will really makes it so it's it's challenging for us to you know, keep it really clean clean we've kind of wanted to point out because of that.

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David Fairbank (Lyft): So bikes do end up in Venice, but we don't you don't have to redeploy for that reason.

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David Fairbank (Lyft): Okay, and.

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jim robb: With either your other lift people like to be unmuted to tell their sides of.

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what's going on.

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David Fairbank (Lyft): I think we're probably good with one voice, but i'm happy to introduce James James postures are sort of California operations managers online and then our Los Angeles operations managers online as well lauren Center all right.

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David Fairbank (Lyft): we're happy to.

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David Fairbank (Lyft): yeah questions at the end so we'll.

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David Fairbank (Lyft): just keep them on the.

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jim robb: thing, as long as they can.

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jim robb: Be on there all right, how about sharing, could you.

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jim robb: unmute and.

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jim robb: Come aboard please.

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Brian Averill: Thanks David.

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jim robb: Thank.

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Sharon Zhang - Superpedestrian: You they're putting really putting us in spot here with muting and the videos but anyway.

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Sharon Zhang - Superpedestrian: My name is Sharon in the policy manager at length by super fast run we're probably the newest intern or newest kind of them part of the La do T dockless mobility family on the line with me is Morgan raw foods are southern California Community engagement lead.

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Sharon Zhang - Superpedestrian: So I you know, I think, as your question jammin Jus around the number of vehicles.

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Morgan Roth: Oh whoa whoa whoa whoa I don't work for super redemption.

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Morgan Roth: Human chicken.

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Sharon Zhang - Superpedestrian: You may say Morgan wrong.

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Jacob Mandel: Just because we're it just.

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Jacob Mandel: Because we're looking we're looking at you Morgan.

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Morgan Roth: hey nice to see jake i'm.

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Jacob Mandel: Sorry.

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Morgan Roth: we're fellow tribesmen Okay, we basically look like.

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Sharon Zhang - Superpedestrian: Maybe that's more my fault, I do apologize for that, but regardless them Jacobs on the line with us.

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Sharon Zhang - Superpedestrian: We currently have you know, since we are newer operators to the space we currently have about 130 vehicles currently deployed in Venice.

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Sharon Zhang - Superpedestrian: Our intentions, of course, to kind of approach more towards kind of later on, but currently we're currently at 130 but if there's any questions regarding our vehicles, where the green yellow little guys might see on the street and just feel free to reach out.

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jim robb: guys are both with link right.

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Sharon Zhang - Superpedestrian: Exactly so when.

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Sharon Zhang - Superpedestrian: a scooter names pedestrians our company.

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jim robb: Okay.

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jim robb: there's a lot of those pretty ones out there, I don't know but yeah you guys came in pretty.

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jim robb: Pretty hot welcome to Venice.

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jim robb: Alright, so let's.

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jim robb: let's get alister curtis with wheels.

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Alastair Curtis (Wheels): Everyone Alistair here GM for four wheels in southern California so just like to also echo everything that that Morgan and the rest of my colleagues have stated, so thank you, I appreciate that.

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Alastair Curtis (Wheels): We are by family by the rules will never go above 150 at any given time where we're 24 hours, seven days a week operation.

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Alastair Curtis (Wheels): We have folks patrolling Venice 24 seven as well, to make sure that nothing is on the beach both will ocean front work and we do pride ourselves in in doing a pretty having a pretty slick operation in that regard.

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Alastair Curtis (Wheels): In great events we probably have anything between 15 another hundred devices in great events at any one time, depending on the inflow and outflow but we work very closely with Jose and his team.

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Alastair Curtis (Wheels): yeah and happy to answer any other questions.

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jim robb: A quick question for everybody, then I guess so is the 23rd to staging districts different than all event is going down to the I guess the Marina peninsula and whatever we got only Easter Easter Lincoln so, is it only and specific drops so an area that you guys were talking about.

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jim robb: I guess Morgan sets your pretty faces air your you get an answer that question.

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Morgan Roth: yeah I would defer to Jose in La do T but and I don't have the Venice mapping.

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Morgan Roth: So.

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1609****346: We.

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Morgan Roth: Do you.

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1609****346: want me to be.

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Morgan Roth: There yeah um so we, there is a special operations in.

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Morgan Roth: in Venice much of you know, actually all all of the boardwalk all of you know oceanfront walk in the walk streets up to I believe now beyond added Kenny, is included and but, but the rest of Venice, you would would fall into the same regulations that just the general.

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Morgan Roth: Shared mobility program the general rules.

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Morgan Roth: But in the SEC, yes, we have this drop zones, we have 150 kaplan that we've got the as.

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Morgan Roth: As was mentioned we've got the five to 10am deployment time time frame and all those special rules that only apply they're not for the rest of Venice okay.

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jim robb: Thank you, thank you, Morgan.

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jim robb: And Jose if you guys are still on there, that would be a good question for like Robert thibodeau because he's on the call you know parking and transportation, so we kind of want to know you know total in Venice baby going down Lincoln boulevard as well, so.

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jim robb: We can have your questions later let's go to.

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jim robb: let's go to Nick from Vo which is not in Venice at the moment, but I invited him cuz I got a sneaking suspicion and I see his scooters are they got to mobility devices so.

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Nick Efron | Veo: Hello hello, yes.

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Nick Efron | Veo: Thank Thank you Jim last time I spoke to you, you are on your way to knott's berry farm so i'm glad you, you made it back in one piece um.

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Nick Efron | Veo: It was my full intention to be a fly on the wall for this meeting because, like Jim mentioned, we deploy zero vehicles in Venice um.

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Nick Efron | Veo: We do not currently have a permit for the city of La, although I don't think it's an industry secret that we are looking to pull a permit in La.

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Nick Efron | Veo: Eventually, I don't know when we still need to crossing t's and dotting the i's internally before we like that match arm but.

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Nick Efron | Veo: You will occasionally see our vehicles in Venice, that is because we deploy solely in Santa Monica arm and we do have a few writers, who will inadvertently cross that southern border into Venice.

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Nick Efron | Veo: And even though we have to create GEO fences in place, we have all the technology in place, even though our devices will power down and there will be unrecognized.

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Nick Efron | Veo: arm folks will still choose to sort of kick their device in the side of the road, rather than bring it back to Santa Monica so it's it's our goal, obviously, to pick up those devices as quickly as we can and bring them back home to Santa Monica um but you know we can't.

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Nick Efron | Veo: be everywhere at one time arm, but please, if you do have any concerns about the way that we are operating just the north up feel free to give me a shout out here to help.

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Brian Averill: expect.

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jim robb: It all right let's go I don't think carla's gotta speak get with lime.

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jim robb: or Allah.

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Karla Owunwanne (Lime): hi there Hello wanna I am with lime hi there, so I also have been with line for three years now, I don't mind since October 2018 so.

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Karla Owunwanne (Lime): have been wanting to spend in the program since before even the pilot period we operate under the conditional use permit.

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Karla Owunwanne (Lime): In 2018, and I mean basically you can just echo what everybody else has said, we also are like everybody else capped at 103 vehicles, we have our threshold set at that, so that our staff does not deploy more than 150 we CAP it to 500 to five vehicles per drop zone.

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Karla Owunwanne (Lime): We rebalance throughout the day and as we get through one complaints we make sure that we stay within that two hour period that led to requires out of all operators.

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Karla Owunwanne (Lime): And, and yet the, you will see some vehicles going in and out just because, as everyone else says Venice is a really high ratio court or where we see folks continuously writing vehicles in from outside of Venice so.

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Karla Owunwanne (Lime): While we do not deploy more than 150 vehicles throughout the day there is there are vehicles aligning in and out of the area.

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well.

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Brian Averill: let's go.

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jim robb: um I don't know if we're missing anybody if we're missing anybody.

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jim robb: Did we talk to Jacob, or are you one of the scooter companies as well or did we get everybody.

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Brian Averill: Thank you got everybody.

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jim robb: So maybe we'll have Eric and Jose tell us if we did get everybody that's with the pilot program and answer some questions, and I would like my committee could swing since we.

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jim robb: Talk about ocean print for you guys to have some questions for these everybody, including the authorized scooter companies.

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jim robb: So.

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Brian Averill: Good.

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jim robb: Are you saying, Brian.

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Brian Averill: I was gonna say let's just open it up to the ocean from walk committee see if anyone has questions.

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jim robb: We got Kerry which is not so i'm allowed her to talk right now, because she's intercall so go ahead carrie.

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cari devine bjelajac: hey guys, can you hear me OK.

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cari devine bjelajac: OK hi guys um I just I think I want to make a statement rather than ask a question, because i'm listening to this and i'm living through this.

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cari devine bjelajac: And i'm just gonna say there are a few things going on here, there are several scooter and electric vehicle companies that operate their businesses and best, which is our neighborhood.

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cari devine bjelajac: They make money operating their businesses in our neighborhood they utilize our infrastructure, our residential streets that are thoroughfares to make their dime.

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cari devine bjelajac: These scooters are posing a hazard and a nuisance to our neighborhoods and the people who live here, and these companies, give nothing back to our neighborhoods.

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cari devine bjelajac: that's my statement.

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jim robb: Yes, I think there's other people that would probably agree so figure that out and i'm sure Nick Nick would like to get in on this call Nick.

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jim robb: I thought I saw you.

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jim robb: Now you got that Nick.

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Nick Efron | Veo: Not your now okay just make.

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1609****346: yeah can you hear me now.

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Yes, yes.

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1609****346: Jim can you hear me I can hear you next.

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1609****346: Okay, I had a colon because i'm having computer problems.

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1609****346: Things that concerns me is everyone who's a vendor to Venice keeps on rewriting the same thing, which is, we only have a certain amount of.

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01:16:54.930 --> 01:17:03.120
1609****346: scooters of devices that are invented but they're not telling anyone is how many of these devices are migrating to Venice.

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1609****346: and ending up in Venice so it's not seven or 800 it's probably more like 1500 to 2000 last night I walked from the Venice Pier.

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1609****346: to clone which is six blocks, I can have 265 vehicles parked along the way, with dozens in front of the venison hotel dozens in front of various real estate offices dozens all over the.

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1609****346: streets of Washington and it's a mess and you know I want to reiterate what the other person said about they give absolutely nothing to Venice, which is absolutely true we've become a parking lot.

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1609****346: For these vehicles and they're creating just as much pollution as being cabinets are, in my mind, because i've been on these calls now for three or four years and i've been on this committee couple of years and.

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1609****346: it's the same problem over and over again, and I wrote an article for yo Venice, you know detailing these problems.

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01:18:12.810 --> 01:18:24.030
1609****346: And it just seems like it's like you know there's there's a pot, and the steam coming from the pot, we take the lid off, and then we put the lid back on but nothing really changes.

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1609****346: So i'd like some of these companies to address, why are all these devices allowed to come here, if you already have several hundred here already.

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1609****346: And why isn't there any kind of action plan for you guys to create and I have an I have an agenda item on the agenda to create a separate.

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01:18:50.190 --> 01:18:57.240
1609****346: scooter from the Venice appear to the Venice to this Santa Monica border that you people should pay for.

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1609****346: Because it's unfair to those who ride on the bike path, who are writing manual bikes with children or with additions on them.

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01:19:08.790 --> 01:19:22.230
1609****346: they're they're running at a much slower pace, and then you have your vehicles were going 2030 miles an hour and there are huge problem and again this is never addressed.

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1609****346: At all now because a coven was had a decrease in ridership obviously but, as we can, medical, this needs to be addressed you guys need your own separate path from the peer to send them off and you should be paying for it.

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1609****346: Not the people that it's not the people Los Angeles, you should be paying for it should be your own separate and i'd like to get some some commentary on this motion from the scooter vendors, because the last speaker is absolutely right, you guys take you don't give back, thank you.

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jim robb: hold off of the questions for just one second is there anybody else in the online that would like to speak in the.

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jim robb: meeting that we didn't promote.

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jim robb: like to speak Robin.

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1609****346: You got mark here mark.

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Brian Averill: yeah let me unmute him.

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Brian Averill: Marco for.

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Mark Nedlin: Okay, thank you.

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Mark Nedlin: Regarding the point about another path.

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Mark Nedlin: i'm not sure.

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1609****346: Why, given the fact that.

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Mark Nedlin: we've got a bike bad we have.

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1609****346: Hundreds of bicycles right now the boardwalk.

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1609****346: Why this would be any different i'd.

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Mark Nedlin: love to hear it, but.

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1609****346: i'm just.

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Mark Nedlin: not convinced at all.

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1609****346: And a broader question for.

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1609****346: The scooter companies.

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Mark Nedlin: I mean, my understanding is that you sort of your business model was sold to you know the public sector, the government is something that would drive down automotive traffic right we do is cars on the road that you did the scooter was going to.

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1609****346: be a substitute for cars.

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Mark Nedlin: What i'm seeing instead is that the scooters becoming a substitute for walking and and basically This to me tells me that that the entire way that this this business model was sold to public officials and to put the public itself.

728
01:21:11.610 --> 01:21:13.830
Mark Nedlin: is potentially either.

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Mark Nedlin: You know, turned out to be an accurate or was knowingly you know if spoon fed is a false what I mean I have we have here and i'm surprised to have this, we have a company which calls itself.

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Mark Nedlin: super pedestrian.

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Mark Nedlin: This is this is to me this name is just the.

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Mark Nedlin: brazen acknowledgement that the fact is that the scooter companies know that they're not substituting for cars that there's substituting for walking in there, basically they're basically using.

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Call-In User_1: That as a sort of.

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Mark Nedlin: As a fraudulent claims on on public space and and and under public goodwill that somehow they're going to substitute for cars when they're in fact substituting for people walking in creating massive nuisance and danger.

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Mark Nedlin: Remember there's no cars allowed on ocean front walk and yet there are hundreds of scooters writing there, these people are substituting for walking Thank you.

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Brian Averill: For next month.

737
01:22:12.750 --> 01:22:13.350
yeah.

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jim robb: Andrew micah.

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Andrew Mika: yeah, I just wanted to second what Nick and Kerry said I guess that's third I think these companies should have to get back to banish we're basically a parking lot for them, thank you.

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jim robb: We can hit.

741
01:22:30.630 --> 01:22:32.940
jim robb: yeah hopefully we can have Jose and Eric.

742
01:22:34.140 --> 01:22:47.550
jim robb: Instead of Morgan have to talk on these comments, because, especially Jose you know that's this is your the pilot program the city's doing but i'm gonna let Sean speak real quick only one more hand.

743
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Brian Averill: yeah that's it.

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01:22:49.740 --> 01:22:51.540
jim robb: Okay Sean you're in there.

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Sean obrien: yeah hey thanks guys oh yeah this was sold to the public, it was supposed to be, for you know the last mile so you know it's you know going to the bus stop going to the metro station, so you don't need a car.

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Sean obrien: The scooter companies can't be held responsible, how the public is using it, but they they can help in regulating it, as we all know it, especially in Venice a this is purely recreation.

747
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Sean obrien: that's all it is a they're drawn to it, because they can ride.

748
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Sean obrien: Double two people on a scooter they do with by they do some of them do go very fast and that's the joy of it, you know you cruise down you look at the beach and look at all the people.

749
01:23:38.460 --> 01:23:47.280
Sean obrien: Going you know you know up to 20 miles an hour, if not faster so it's purely recreational in Venice.

750
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Sean obrien: um and I agree that they need to give back, I thought it was a novel idea when it first came out and i'm sick of it now.

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Sean obrien: You know it letters, all you know the public streets like everybody's complained about like the parking and they do the company's all of them do a horrible job in retrieving their vehicles their scooters so i'd like to see that addressed as well, but thanks guys.

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Brian Averill: Thank you Sean.

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jim robb: Thank you Sean anybody else from the committee Peter.

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peter: um my only comment is about.

755
01:24:24.270 --> 01:24:25.920
1609****346: The docking stations.

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Of.

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01:24:27.660 --> 01:24:40.770
peter: Like we're we're going to be able to put these things I know they put some stickers on them and stuff, but we have some major areas where we know people drop them off and we maybe we should encourage them to drop them off over there.

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01:24:41.820 --> 01:24:55.380
peter: near the Pier and set up because that's that's a big hub area for me over at the Pier so maybe if they could keep that edge of Venice, which is the north side Washington boulevard in mind.

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peter: I guess, this would be directed to Jose now once again, we have to remember that, like most things it's going to take a couple years for the district attorney or at least a year to start to.

760
01:25:13.140 --> 01:25:26.280
peter: go through all the information and figure out what kind of fines and stuff so this isn't going to happen real quick, so I think as the ocean front walk committee is concerned, we should we should partner up with all of our.

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peter: scooter.

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peter: scooter representatives here in Venice, and we should be out to letting people know that.

763
01:25:36.690 --> 01:25:45.540
peter: You can we, we, as the ocean front walk should throw on a vest like I do and say hey slow down or no, you sorry you can't right here.

764
01:25:45.810 --> 01:26:01.860
peter: We need to be proactive as individuals and not depend so much on the scooter companies because we live here, and you know we can blow whistle at someone we can we can let people know what's going on, maybe know scooter on a T shirt or something like that, and then.

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01:26:02.100 --> 01:26:03.450
peter: We saturate the.

766
01:26:04.230 --> 01:26:09.840
peter: We saturate the boardwalk that's my two minutes more or less i'm sure I have more but i'm stopping right there.

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jim robb: I have that shirt but the scooter company wouldn't.

768
01:26:13.830 --> 01:26:16.470
jim robb: Like the shirt so I didn't wear today.

769
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peter: Well, we can get together with them have the scooters on oh so.

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jim robb: I think.

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peter: it's a great I think.

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peter: it's all about educate.

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jim robb: A great idea, I think that nisa should have been on here with the bid since their major part of the whole situation and I think they should, I think they should have their people also telling nicely since they're.

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jim robb: You know they're a piece of us to the to the tourist there what they see and they should be an outreach to the tourist, like the other ocean, the other bids are and help people with all kinds of stuff so you know, I think it is a group effort, and I think we need bid.

775
01:26:57.150 --> 01:26:57.540
In La.

776
01:26:59.520 --> 01:27:04.440
jim robb: and CD 11 all to be part of it so thanks Peter Noel go ahead.

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Noel Johnston: i'm i'm wondering if the Washington square big big the business improvement groups is involved in this at all, because I know that there are a lot of the otters down there are concerned with it, but they have never been real active in the vm said.

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Noel Johnston: I think would be great if they spoke up on the subject, I you know I live on the ocean front walk at the very North end or I didn't tell my place burned, but.

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Noel Johnston: I think the the traffic, the scooter traffic walk is still pretty bad it's not as bad as it once was, but it doesn't benefit anybody that lives alone oceanfront walk at all.

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Noel Johnston: I mean there's there's absolutely no no benefit to a residence, I think there might be some benefits to a business, I mean.

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01:28:01.470 --> 01:28:12.300
Noel Johnston: The scooters get people to the shops and stores along knob boardwalk and restaurants and so on, but I, I really think that it.

782
01:28:13.590 --> 01:28:18.690
Noel Johnston: it's it's become a strange thing because it was pitched to us as a last mile.

783
01:28:19.410 --> 01:28:30.210
Noel Johnston: service and of course it's become nothing of the kind at all, and I think most of the residents have grown to dislike it I used to when they first came out and I thought they were kind of fun, but.

784
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Noel Johnston: I just don't see our residents using them, and I think it to build up a certain animosity among the residents, all together, and I think it will continue to so there's i'd be interested to see if nisa can figure that one out, I mean.

785
01:28:46.440 --> 01:28:46.830
Noel Johnston: How.

786
01:28:47.520 --> 01:28:49.920
Noel Johnston: How do you get around that one yeah.

787
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jim robb: that's a tough tough for the lapd lapd lapd we got too many layers here thanks Noel alright Jose, I would like you and Eric to if you're still here to possibly come in and tell us.

788
01:29:04.320 --> 01:29:05.580
jim robb: about the questions that.

789
01:29:05.640 --> 01:29:06.390
jim robb: People had.

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Brian Averill: Some closing comments guys if.

791
01:29:09.150 --> 01:29:09.660
Brian Averill: You have any.

792
01:29:10.830 --> 01:29:11.340
Yes.

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01:29:12.600 --> 01:29:13.380
Jose Elias: Or we just.

794
01:29:13.770 --> 01:29:14.280
1609****346: we've been.

795
01:29:15.030 --> 01:29:29.070
Jose Elias: listening and taking notes so we're just going to report back to to jarvis on our team and talk about some of the comments and concerns from from the Community and see what kind of solutions we come up with from the initial.

796
01:29:30.780 --> 01:29:35.580
Jose Elias: data that we have see we do see a majority of the TRIPS beginning to end, that a.

797
01:29:36.810 --> 01:29:50.580
Jose Elias: menace and Washington, but I understand that there are concerns when we do try to put parking location parking in any of those locations, so I don't know if there's any any sponsor anything that the committee will feel comfortable with.

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01:29:51.630 --> 01:29:56.100
Jose Elias: In those locations, but um yeah, I just wanted to start those conversations as well.

799
01:29:57.450 --> 01:30:07.470
jim robb: I have one right, I have one right now that you guys could be helpful, with that is the safety park valet parkers that I don't know are permitted.

800
01:30:07.950 --> 01:30:16.680
jim robb: To even be doing the business that they're doing down here, but we have spots like it sugar that's empty at night, which would instead of all these.

801
01:30:17.130 --> 01:30:28.980
jim robb: scooters being dumped right at the corner of Pacific in North Dennis maybe CD 11 could work with safety parks that controls all the parking lots in Venice.

802
01:30:29.430 --> 01:30:40.380
jim robb: To see if there would be somewhere to stage these things bigger I know they have parking lots down in Washington, I know they have a parking lot on Windward.

803
01:30:40.740 --> 01:30:57.540
jim robb: pretty much every parking lot that's in Venice is ran by them, so I would just like to know if since they're allowed to do all the valet parking in Venice why they couldn't partner with these guys and we could corral these things so that they look appropriate for the tourists and.

804
01:30:57.570 --> 01:31:00.990
jim robb: everybody else, and I think bed should be helping as well.

805
01:31:00.990 --> 01:31:02.970
jim robb: So just my comment.

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01:31:04.950 --> 01:31:05.820
Brian Averill: Okay, it was a.

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01:31:06.930 --> 01:31:07.350
1609****346: Yes.

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01:31:09.030 --> 01:31:09.900
jim robb: Go ahead go ahead.

809
01:31:10.020 --> 01:31:19.500
1609****346: Jim yes, I just want to make one point, as an example of giving back so all the vendors have a clear understanding, where i'm coming from.

810
01:31:21.750 --> 01:31:34.020
1609****346: Peter and Noel can attest to this, let there's been a series of these movie nights on the Pier and one vendor himself paid thousands and thousands of dollars to rent.

811
01:31:34.650 --> 01:31:45.870
1609****346: A big screen, so people could watch the movies and it's things like that that if you were more involved in the Community, will you help subsidize events like that.

812
01:31:46.470 --> 01:31:53.910
1609****346: that people would be more amenable to the headache of having the scooters because at least they would say well.

813
01:31:54.510 --> 01:32:01.410
1609****346: You know, we have a lot of scooters year because we're a resort community, but at the same time they're active in the Community.

814
01:32:01.830 --> 01:32:09.930
1609****346: they're active in the Vinci we're having this upcoming Halloween thing that's coming up on the 31st and you guys are nowhere to be found.

815
01:32:10.650 --> 01:32:22.200
1609****346: So that's the kind of an example of being involved in the Community and supporting events Venice Community events that would change your people's perception of you.

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01:32:23.490 --> 01:32:25.980
jim robb: That are this go in this one real quick I know.

817
01:32:25.980 --> 01:32:26.220
jim robb: That.

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jim robb: I think it was bird and a couple of them in the beginning, did some stuff at the.

819
01:32:32.040 --> 01:32:40.080
jim robb: street lighting down on Windward and some other stuff, but I think it needs, I think all you guys need to be a little bit more proactive.

820
01:32:40.530 --> 01:32:55.080
jim robb: With having your people if they're down here granting scooter I you know getting paid a drop them off that they could be you know helpful and saying hey you know we can't talk it here there's you know I think everybody needs to pitch enter this thing will be way out of control.

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01:32:56.580 --> 01:33:03.180
jim robb: And i'll let Jose speak next on any thoughts that led ot can help us with this.

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01:33:03.630 --> 01:33:06.930
Brian Averill: Jose spoke, I think, maybe Eric if you want to.

823
01:33:07.860 --> 01:33:08.610
jim robb: Think Eric just.

824
01:33:12.270 --> 01:33:21.270
Eric Bruins (CD11): Maybe i'll kind of close this out, I mean, I think I really appreciated that the conversation tonight i've been taking some notes on on different ideas.

825
01:33:21.720 --> 01:33:30.360
Eric Bruins (CD11): And I you know I do thank the Community for your continued participation, and you know, for better for worse, you guys were kind of details on this.

826
01:33:30.600 --> 01:33:32.580
Eric Bruins (CD11): And I think you know, hopefully tonight's presentation.

827
01:33:32.580 --> 01:33:37.590
Eric Bruins (CD11): did show that we have implemented a lot of ideas that have come out of this group.

828
01:33:38.580 --> 01:33:47.460
Eric Bruins (CD11): Including the the geo fencing the the various special operations own requirements, and you know the Venice school market is probably the most tightly regulated.

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01:33:48.270 --> 01:33:53.580
Eric Bruins (CD11): scooter market in probably the country and thread that vendors would would confirm with that.

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01:33:54.390 --> 01:34:05.040
Eric Bruins (CD11): It is it is incredibly strict operate here there obviously still some things that we can get better, and so you know the conversations like this are the way that we will do that, so thank you all very much.

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jim robb: and real quickly one more thing you know I know the walk streets noel's happy because they're up by her and all that, but you guys were testing the testing the.

832
01:34:16.710 --> 01:34:26.640
jim robb: Down speeds on the geo fencing in that area myself, I live on 20th street which is right next to Venice North Venice boulevard.

833
01:34:27.120 --> 01:34:40.620
jim robb: And they still charge down these at full speed and I think Robin that's on the call is still having the same issue to with the once you get past speedway between speedway and Pacific, you know.

834
01:34:40.860 --> 01:34:44.850
jim robb: we're still getting scooters coming down from everybody on all the streets so.

835
01:34:45.690 --> 01:34:48.120
jim robb: How much further, are they going to go down to.

836
01:34:48.960 --> 01:34:49.170
1609****346: To.

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01:34:49.200 --> 01:34:50.880
1609****346: Make sure all the walk streets, all the way.

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01:34:50.880 --> 01:34:51.210
down.

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01:34:54.780 --> 01:34:57.030
Jose Elias: about the walk straight south of Washington.

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01:34:57.780 --> 01:35:03.330
jim robb: Talking about the one North event North Venice boulevard I still get them coming down here.

841
01:35:05.040 --> 01:35:07.530
jim robb: Is it GEO fence with all these guys.

842
01:35:09.000 --> 01:35:11.400
Jose Elias: Milica talk offline about the exact location i'm.

843
01:35:11.970 --> 01:35:12.300
Jose Elias: Not.

844
01:35:12.840 --> 01:35:14.340
jim robb: too familiar with behind.

845
01:35:14.610 --> 01:35:16.290
1609****346: Behind the powerball courts but.

846
01:35:17.880 --> 01:35:24.030
jim robb: So I should be in that district alright, well, we can talk offline i'm glad you guys both took notes.

847
01:35:25.230 --> 01:35:32.010
jim robb: One last question for y'all when are we going to have a another update from you, and when can we get the rest of the scooter companies.

848
01:35:33.090 --> 01:35:38.070
jim robb: Back to you know I think these are helpful, I would hope that all the.

849
01:35:38.100 --> 01:35:39.600
jim robb: scooter companies think so as.

850
01:35:39.600 --> 01:35:43.470
jim robb: Well, and you know I want to set something up, probably in the next.

851
01:35:44.610 --> 01:35:48.870
jim robb: four to six months again just to check in and see what we've accomplished.

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01:35:51.330 --> 01:35:51.840
Jose Elias: And that works.

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01:35:53.490 --> 01:35:55.620
jim robb: Alright scooter companies that good with you.

854
01:35:58.800 --> 01:36:01.620
jim robb: i'll take silence as a yes, I did.

855
01:36:01.860 --> 01:36:05.250
Morgan Roth: yeah I do think that I think that is a.

856
01:36:05.340 --> 01:36:07.380
Morgan Roth: good for us and what I would say, though.

857
01:36:08.430 --> 01:36:15.090
Morgan Roth: Is there is a lot that has happened, particularly for Venice what has not been called out tonight is.

858
01:36:15.390 --> 01:36:18.240
Morgan Roth: The new fee structure in the new Program.

859
01:36:19.350 --> 01:36:22.530
Morgan Roth: For which and Jose correct me if i'm wrong and from.

860
01:36:23.730 --> 01:36:30.180
Morgan Roth: An application perspective, what has been implemented in Venice is is unique to the whole city actually.

861
01:36:31.410 --> 01:36:39.180
Morgan Roth: Much much to do with a lot of this, you know this committees work and the dnc at large is work in the space.

862
01:36:39.990 --> 01:36:54.510
Morgan Roth: And you know, yes we're happy to continue to have these conversations, as we, as we will continue to probably have for the duration of scooters being on the ground and protect you and you're perpetually in Los Angeles.

863
01:36:55.860 --> 01:37:09.330
Morgan Roth: You know, but but Venice Venice from nick's comments, a few others comments I mean there's the resources that are allocated to the micro mobility program and where they actually end up on the ground.

864
01:37:10.920 --> 01:37:11.340
1609****346: Are.

865
01:37:11.370 --> 01:37:13.290
Morgan Roth: fairly exclusively to Venice.

866
01:37:14.550 --> 01:37:19.980
Morgan Roth: And there's 99 other city, you know neighborhood Councils throughout the city, many of which.

867
01:37:21.030 --> 01:37:32.910
Morgan Roth: Who don't have these conversations and have not gotten the infrastructure, so you know there's a lot to be said about your work in this at our work collectively in this.

868
01:37:33.960 --> 01:37:42.270
Morgan Roth: And you know we're going to continue to work on finding the right solution some other points to you know happy to share around.

869
01:37:43.080 --> 01:37:56.400
Morgan Roth: Some third party external research that's been done by you know by naco by another number of organizations that really do validate the use of micro mobility we do here, often a lot of anecdotal.

870
01:37:57.600 --> 01:38:09.840
Morgan Roth: Experiences out there and we all have them to you know i'm a lifelong resident of Washington dulles and i've certainly seen some things happen on scooters that I would not endorse and I don't think bird nor any of the companies would endorse the behavior.

871
01:38:10.860 --> 01:38:21.990
Morgan Roth: But when you work in partnership with your cities with the las with the you know all the hundreds of cities that all of our companies are an operation with, and we, together.

872
01:38:22.590 --> 01:38:36.030
Morgan Roth: survey users and non users to understand behavior we do see what the uses and so I you know happy to continue this conversation, to increase the education around how micro mobility has impacted cities.

873
01:38:36.510 --> 01:38:43.050
Morgan Roth: And in fundamentally you know what we do see in Venice is a lot of use for people who are.

874
01:38:43.920 --> 01:38:53.250
Morgan Roth: going to businesses those tax dollars that they're spending I sorry those you know dollars that they're spending those businesses are tax dollars that go back into the city.

875
01:38:53.640 --> 01:39:04.620
Morgan Roth: And what we do see across the board, is a good a net positive from having micro micro mobility on the ground, certainly, there have been challenges and speed bumps in.

876
01:39:05.850 --> 01:39:14.580
Morgan Roth: You know, some other cons that I can throw in there, but what I would say again, is la duties is keenly aware of those the Council district offices.

877
01:39:15.240 --> 01:39:27.090
Morgan Roth: click keenly aware of those and where we've implemented the infrastructure from this program is almost been entirely exclusive to Venice so we'll continue will continue to work with you all and other partners on the ground and and we appreciate.

878
01:39:27.900 --> 01:39:34.080
Morgan Roth: This committees, you know ever present pressing of making sure that this program works for everyone.

879
01:39:35.820 --> 01:39:52.830
jim robb: Thank you so much, Morgan and, yes, we We appreciate, you and I think as Peter said, the best, I think we all need to work together and work on these issues, you know, whether it be you know, having somebody talk about us or you guys or third parties or whatever so.

880
01:39:53.880 --> 01:39:54.510
jim robb: With that.

881
01:39:56.550 --> 01:40:02.880
jim robb: was a Eric anything else, Brian you can close this out and maybe move on to whatever.

882
01:40:04.650 --> 01:40:11.760
Brian Averill: yeah that was great I just I hope all the companies sort of took some of this in and and everybody realized that we're all in this together.

883
01:40:12.450 --> 01:40:22.470
Brian Averill: And, rather than this being a point of constant tension between the Community and the company there's a much better way to move forward and it's up to all of us to to figure it out together.

884
01:40:23.850 --> 01:40:32.280
Brian Averill: And thank you very much Eric and Jose, especially for taking the time to do this, we appreciate your efforts immensely.

885
01:40:32.940 --> 01:40:34.410
jim robb: don't forget don't forget.

886
01:40:35.430 --> 01:40:38.790
jim robb: Captain Steve emmerich cheese still on appreciate you.

887
01:40:39.570 --> 01:40:40.680
Brian Averill: Yes, of course.

888
01:40:41.820 --> 01:40:49.680
Brian Averill: Thank you lapd Thank you captain and brick Thank you to all the companies, we have a single emotion tonight, which is sort of related.

889
01:40:50.100 --> 01:40:59.730
Brian Averill: it's emotion from Nick to build a separate path for the scooters so we're going to move on to that now everyone is more than welcome to stay.

890
01:41:00.330 --> 01:41:08.490
Brian Averill: If you're sick of scooter talk feel free to jump off and catch the end of the Monday night football game, but we're going to move on to that one motion it's time.

891
01:41:08.520 --> 01:41:09.060
1010.

892
01:41:14.580 --> 01:41:17.040
Brian Averill: Nick why don't you read make that motion.

893
01:41:21.360 --> 01:41:22.500
jim robb: I gotta unmute him I.

894
01:41:23.280 --> 01:41:24.030
jim robb: Really yeah.

895
01:41:24.120 --> 01:41:27.090
I think he's this 1609.

896
01:41:28.290 --> 01:41:28.710
jim robb: Nick.

897
01:41:34.590 --> 01:41:35.190
jim robb: Oh sorry.

898
01:41:35.850 --> 01:41:37.710
jim robb: Sorry, Nick I did it again cuz.

899
01:41:39.030 --> 01:41:42.600
jim robb: Aston i'm you sorry there you go you're unmuted.

900
01:41:42.960 --> 01:41:44.820
1609****346: Can you hear me now yeah okay.

901
01:41:45.900 --> 01:41:50.610
1609****346: i'm calling it, so I don't have the motion in front of me, Brian Korea.

902
01:41:51.780 --> 01:41:58.470
1609****346: That would be helpful and i'll i'll make i'll make a motion to put it on the floor and then i'll answer any questions.

903
01:41:59.370 --> 01:41:59.700
sure.

904
01:42:01.560 --> 01:42:07.560
Brian Averill: The motion is public private construction and scooter device pathway of Venice beach from Mr Nick antenna cello.

905
01:42:08.610 --> 01:42:19.770
Brian Averill: Whereas the proliferation of scooter device companies at Venice is in the thousands of electrified vehicles, and whereas these portable devices are causing a vehicular disturbance along the existing bike path.

906
01:42:21.060 --> 01:42:30.780
Brian Averill: That is reserved for non electrical vehicle devices that operate by pedaling only and whereas the approved scooter bike device companies have been given a preferred status by the city of.

907
01:42:31.170 --> 01:42:37.560
Brian Averill: A city of La and i've made zero investment in the planning or construction of a safe and separate access along Venice beach.

908
01:42:38.670 --> 01:42:42.570
Brian Averill: Therefore, be it resolved that the preferred scooter device companies commit.

909
01:42:42.960 --> 01:42:51.450
Brian Averill: In cooperation with the city of La the construction of a separate pathway along Venice beach beginning at the Venice Pier and ending at the Santa Monica border.

910
01:42:52.140 --> 01:43:03.210
Brian Averill: And that the cost of this construction be shared with the city and the cooperating device companies and that a letter be sent to Council district 11 requesting funding, as well as a timeline for construction.

911
01:43:05.700 --> 01:43:06.030
that's it.

912
01:43:08.160 --> 01:43:09.420
1609****346: i'll make the motion.

913
01:43:13.980 --> 01:43:15.960
Brian Averill: When you the second one, second.

914
01:43:16.650 --> 01:43:17.850
jim robb: Anybody on a second.

915
01:43:18.660 --> 01:43:19.860
peter: Oh i'll second.

916
01:43:22.260 --> 01:43:23.160
Brian Averill: Peter second.

917
01:43:24.330 --> 01:43:24.690
Brian Averill: So.

918
01:43:25.920 --> 01:43:28.740
Brian Averill: we'll start with public comment first.

919
01:43:31.980 --> 01:43:32.670
jim robb: john go ahead.

920
01:43:32.850 --> 01:43:34.230
Brian Averill: Two three.

921
01:43:36.030 --> 01:43:47.370
Sean obrien: Yes, hi guys yeah support next motion i'm, the only thing that worries me with it is dirty politics and La all these companies are going to do.

922
01:43:48.060 --> 01:43:57.720
Sean obrien: The scooter companies, they give a $10,000 contribution to Mike bond and, and this will get buried up if you guys can get this thing through love it man, thank you.

923
01:43:59.610 --> 01:44:00.330
jim robb: Thanks john.

924
01:44:01.530 --> 01:44:02.580
jim robb: Mark you're up.

925
01:44:04.020 --> 01:44:08.730
Mark Nedlin: yeah thanks it, I would like to ask the the person who is.

926
01:44:09.960 --> 01:44:20.760
Mark Nedlin: It who's making this motion, why they think this other path would be effective, I raised this question before we have a separate bike path and that's done.

927
01:44:21.420 --> 01:44:22.680
1609****346: Nothing that I can see from.

928
01:44:22.680 --> 01:44:23.130
Mark Nedlin: Preventing.

929
01:44:23.580 --> 01:44:37.500
Mark Nedlin: To prevent bicycle riders from writing on on the boardwalk itself, how would constructing another separate pathway be effective, given the the sorry track record of the first pathway.

930
01:44:39.540 --> 01:44:40.050
Brian Averill: X mark.

931
01:44:40.500 --> 01:44:42.300
1609****346: i'll add to that if you want me to unless you.

932
01:44:42.300 --> 01:44:43.890
1609****346: want to add closed public comment.

933
01:44:44.100 --> 01:44:47.130
Brian Averill: Why don't we just take all the public comment and i'll do a board to Scott.

934
01:44:47.160 --> 01:44:49.560
Mark Nedlin: know why can't they answer that I mean this is, you know.

935
01:44:49.590 --> 01:44:52.200
Mark Nedlin: let's i'd like to hear an answer please.

936
01:44:52.740 --> 01:44:55.530
Brian Averill: Because we're just trying to stick to that old parliamentary procedure thing.

937
01:44:56.610 --> 01:44:58.260
jim robb: Well he'll answer your question.

938
01:44:59.460 --> 01:45:02.070
jim robb: After we get the other two hands through that are up.

939
01:45:03.390 --> 01:45:04.710
Brian Averill: looks good and Helen.

940
01:45:05.280 --> 01:45:06.150
jim robb: Helen go ahead.

941
01:45:12.330 --> 01:45:14.580
Helen Fallon: um yeah hi um I.

942
01:45:15.810 --> 01:45:26.100
Helen Fallon: i'm trying to understand where this thing would be located, because all I see it, is, we have all these pedestrians down there it's hard enough for people to cross over the bike path.

943
01:45:27.270 --> 01:45:39.180
Helen Fallon: you're going to add another path with motorized vehicles, this is just an attempt to take out children and families understand this, I n n.

944
01:45:39.330 --> 01:45:43.710
Helen Fallon: completely contradicts the purpose of these things if they're supposed to be for the last half.

945
01:45:43.740 --> 01:45:56.010
Helen Fallon: mile, and all this, you know as we heard Oh well, it's all anecdotal that's all the tourists and it's just recreational and now we're going to create a recreational bike path for these people I I am.

946
01:45:57.660 --> 01:46:07.920
Helen Fallon: Unless I can understand this completely and know that I can access the beach without taking my life in my hands i'm completely opposed to this makes no sense whatsoever to me and.

947
01:46:08.550 --> 01:46:21.840
Helen Fallon: You know these things should stay on the street, where they belong i'm sick and tired of on the sidewalks and i'm sick and tired of them in danger me not micro whatever that guy called it mobility it's macro trip hazard thanks.

948
01:46:22.860 --> 01:46:23.340
Brian Averill: Thank you Helen.

949
01:46:23.370 --> 01:46:25.890
jim robb: Helen all right Lisa redman.

950
01:46:28.500 --> 01:46:34.740
Lisa Redmond: hello, good evening all interesting conversation this evening i'm good meeting Jim.

951
01:46:36.330 --> 01:46:50.640
Lisa Redmond: I gonna have to agree with Helen on this, you know first I was thinking back and forth, and I went you know, to the logical thing that we shouldn't be spending any public dollars at this time, let the privately funded, but then I started thinking you know.

952
01:46:51.660 --> 01:47:06.330
Lisa Redmond: On an average weekend it doesn't even have to be a summer it's near impossible as a pedestrian just even cross the bypass we just regular bicycles, and now we want to build a separate super freeway and it just doesn't make any sense.

953
01:47:07.140 --> 01:47:15.660
Lisa Redmond: That and I get that people you know, want to come and vacation and rule how fun, it is to run a scooter and let's ride a scooter and go around the beach.

954
01:47:16.590 --> 01:47:34.020
Lisa Redmond: know it just It just seems like a giant giant safety hazard and then who's going to regulate the traffic on that, and it seems like we're going to have paramedics down on the beach the whole time dealing with injuries that come across from this scooter freeway path.

955
01:47:35.040 --> 01:47:47.910
Lisa Redmond: it's just you know even Captain Captain emmerich reminded us this evening about a pedestrian being killed by scooters you know, we know that all it takes is one person to trip ball and hit their head the wrong way on the.

956
01:47:47.910 --> 01:48:04.620
Lisa Redmond: Concrete and that's a wrong way to die so i'm against the motion, I get the idea of Nick it's a you know, a nice idea from a recreational standpoint but from a safety, public usage point I don't agree, thank you.

957
01:48:21.390 --> 01:48:22.020
1609****346: Hello.

958
01:48:22.380 --> 01:48:23.220
1609****346: Jim you're muted.

959
01:48:25.530 --> 01:48:26.880
Brian Averill: let's go to you Steve.

960
01:48:36.480 --> 01:48:37.260
Brian Averill: Steve Williams.

961
01:48:37.320 --> 01:48:48.210
Steve Williams: Okay, my my background yep okay great um yeah i'll have to agree with the last few speakers that it just sounds like that public safety disaster in the making.

962
01:48:49.770 --> 01:49:08.730
Steve Williams: As a bicyclist and a beach user so i'm both by getting on the bike path frequently and also possibly bike path, sometimes with a big circle and i'm really aware from both perspectives, you know about safely crossing the bike path, but I can tell you this on a weekend.

963
01:49:10.050 --> 01:49:19.380
Steve Williams: Mostly, we can but we do soon summer I guess i'd say bye bye 80 something percent of the other people crossing the bike path and not looking at all, I mean it's it's.

964
01:49:19.890 --> 01:49:33.060
Steve Williams: Some other people bicycle not you know it's just crazy and they're like little kids who went out ahead new bike path and it's it's really quite NUTS so imagine putting motorized vehicles screaming along the.

965
01:49:33.060 --> 01:49:33.660
1609****346: beach.

966
01:49:33.690 --> 01:49:35.040
Steve Williams: With that situation.

967
01:49:35.460 --> 01:49:43.170
Steve Williams: Because it will be the same, I can't think of any other way to do it other than having stoplights and you know and that's not good work.

968
01:49:44.580 --> 01:49:45.330
jim robb: Thank you Steve.

969
01:49:46.980 --> 01:49:47.220
Brian Averill: Thanks.

970
01:49:47.610 --> 01:49:49.020
Brian Averill: Erica to.

971
01:49:49.320 --> 01:49:56.700
jim robb: Carry and then we have Nick every all the questions are about the same so Erica and you are.

972
01:49:57.690 --> 01:50:02.160
Erica Moore: hi Okay, I want to thank Nick for his creative approach to try to address.

973
01:50:02.880 --> 01:50:10.230
Erica Moore: This situation, but I to agree that we don't not need to invite more motor ization down there, I think the bottom line is.

974
01:50:10.680 --> 01:50:27.930
Erica Moore: This is an opportunity for the scooter companies to give back by providing some sort of special funding to bring in some sort of extra police or Rangers or whatever, to be able to monitor and keep the motorized vehicles off of the bike path off of.

975
01:50:28.290 --> 01:50:29.610
1609****346: The boardwalk.

976
01:50:30.060 --> 01:50:33.780
Erica Moore: I mean the bottom line is it's not safe.

977
01:50:34.410 --> 01:50:42.810
Erica Moore: There are already countless injuries and there's been deaths and you don't have to hit someone else to cause a death it's like someone else mentioned, you can have a solo accident.

978
01:50:43.140 --> 01:50:52.470
Erica Moore: And no one's addressed the fact that there's people writing these at night, and I think that that is something that really has to be addressed it's so unsafe it's dark.

979
01:50:52.980 --> 01:51:01.770
Erica Moore: And it's just not good so anyways that's what I think I think it's a way for them to be able to give back, obviously I don't support this motion and I think that.

980
01:51:02.430 --> 01:51:14.460
Erica Moore: Those funds that they could have used to create that path should be utilized to set up enforcement, so that our Community is safer and they can have militarization where it's appropriate Thank you.

981
01:51:15.000 --> 01:51:16.320
Brian Averill: Better circle.

982
01:51:16.380 --> 01:51:18.240
jim robb: Right last one is carrie.

983
01:51:19.860 --> 01:51:20.850
jim robb: yeah very unmute.

984
01:51:22.320 --> 01:51:30.420
cari devine bjelajac: hey guys Venice boardwalk has been a tourist attraction way before scooters came along, and it will continue to be.

985
01:51:30.870 --> 01:51:35.790
cari devine bjelajac: When scooters are no longer a fad and I don't think it would be worthwhile to create.

986
01:51:36.420 --> 01:51:45.390
cari devine bjelajac: A venue for more scooter companies to come, because there is now a scooter whoever said freeway would would is probably pretty accurate if that was Helen.

987
01:51:46.320 --> 01:51:59.520
cari devine bjelajac: But aside from that again this is throwing more enforcement responsibilities on top of lapd because who would be enforcing the fact that you stay in that scooter lane and off the boardwalk or off the bike path.

988
01:51:59.880 --> 01:52:07.560
cari devine bjelajac: It would have to be lapd because we know we can't really rely on the people who are writing in the scooters to self monitor so that's my comment.

989
01:52:08.340 --> 01:52:11.370
jim robb: Thank you so much carrie thanks for joining the meeting, too, I appreciate it.

990
01:52:13.110 --> 01:52:17.880
jim robb: All right, Nick there's your opportunity to answer the questions and then we'll.

991
01:52:17.880 --> 01:52:18.270
VOTE

992
01:52:19.920 --> 01:52:20.310
1609****346: sure.

993
01:52:21.810 --> 01:52:35.190
1609****346: This is an issue of safety first and foremost, but I think people are looking at it from the wrong point of view the problem that you have right now in the bike path and anyone who knows me I I only travel by bike.

994
01:52:36.660 --> 01:52:46.590
1609****346: Is that you have when you're mixing the vehicles regular peddling public bicycles, people who have children attached to the backs of them.

995
01:52:47.250 --> 01:52:55.800
1609****346: Those who have attachments to their bikes they're running they're running at a much slower pace, and then you have these vehicles that are running in a much higher pace.

996
01:52:56.310 --> 01:53:07.980
1609****346: And a lot of the bicycle is can't get out of their way or can't get to the right away when you have scooters that are leaving their lane and trying to pass them the left.

997
01:53:08.970 --> 01:53:19.170
1609****346: which makes it even more dangerous because it's just a two it's just a two lane one lane North one lane South situation, so the bike path really can't absorb.

998
01:53:19.920 --> 01:53:25.440
1609****346: These kinds of devices in the safe and free way someone asked about enforcement.

999
01:53:26.250 --> 01:53:38.130
1609****346: One of the things that I think needs to be done with the by with the devices that you must wear helmets on devices and the two person writing is just out of control.

1000
01:53:38.610 --> 01:53:47.550
1609****346: Now, in terms of enforcement I wouldn't put this on lapd I would put this on the La violations bureau, the same people who.

1001
01:53:48.030 --> 01:54:00.930
1609****346: write the tickets when they do the streets weeping the same people who do traffic on the fourth of July, that would be the appropriate responsibility and you have the substation at Venice.

1002
01:54:01.470 --> 01:54:13.740
1609****346: Venice beach, which is completely unused unoccupied during the week, and if that kind of enforcement was set forth and people started getting tickets were using these things, so they weren't using them.

1003
01:54:14.460 --> 01:54:23.310
1609****346: and illegal way, I think the the amount of of actions would drop down now someone mentioned about the death, the death had nothing to do.

1004
01:54:23.760 --> 01:54:31.290
1609****346: With the bike paths or proposed by path it was two people riding on Lincoln, I believe, who hit a senior citizen and knock them over.

1005
01:54:31.800 --> 01:54:43.650
1609****346: So it's not your main to this to this motion when i'm trying to accomplish is to take to take these vehicles and and let this the scooter people themselves create.

1006
01:54:44.130 --> 01:54:51.720
1609****346: Something that, of course, the city would regulate that would give them access, but at the same time, it would be safe access there'll be equal access.

1007
01:54:52.140 --> 01:55:02.550
1609****346: You don't have that when you when you commingle these devices with normal pedaled bikes I see it every day, where these bikes go flying past people.

1008
01:55:02.940 --> 01:55:15.090
1609****346: And it's the bicycle is who for the most part, have helmets 00 people on these devices have have helped zero, even though I understand there is some kind of regulation, they should have.

1009
01:55:15.840 --> 01:55:30.030
1609****346: So taking them out of the bike lane, in my opinion, increases safety it doesn't decrease safety now in terms of where would go my feeling would be remember we're an advisory board.

1010
01:55:31.140 --> 01:55:44.310
1609****346: I would like to see it go west of the current bike path and there's more than enough room on the beach to to to absorb it and in terms of safety in terms of.

1011
01:55:45.210 --> 01:55:57.000
1609****346: people accessing the beach, there can be a lot of provisions put in there, like a stop signs or have traffic people there on the weekends, making sure that people can cross the same way, cause cross I mean.

1012
01:55:57.480 --> 01:56:03.180
1609****346: there's thousands of these things and they're not going away, I mean i'm trying to be realistic about it.

1013
01:56:03.540 --> 01:56:12.450
1609****346: If I thought this was a fad and was going to go away next month, well, I wouldn't even you know, take the time to write emotion like this, but that is simply not the case so.

1014
01:56:13.260 --> 01:56:31.170
1609****346: i'm saying let's let's let's i'm going to wrap it up now Jim I think this is a good first step to get these people involved if they're going to be good neighbors or good vendors, to the city to understand the problem and, of course, we're going to need you know.

1015
01:56:32.220 --> 01:56:44.820
1609****346: recommendations from the city in La do T if this is something that could be done, but at least to get it off the ground and and have them take a hard look at it and say how do we, how do we deal with these devices and.

1016
01:56:46.920 --> 01:56:47.580
1609****346: not working.

1017
01:56:48.240 --> 01:56:50.310
jim robb: We have three questions coming in well.

1018
01:56:51.210 --> 01:56:55.860
Noel Johnston: i'm Nick what is to keep other kinds of motorized.

1019
01:56:55.860 --> 01:57:06.120
Noel Johnston: Vehicles off of this thing what's to keep more powerful two wheeled vehicles off of a three wheeled vehicles off, but those uni have.

1020
01:57:06.810 --> 01:57:09.900
Noel Johnston: heard of an article either like uni skateboards.

1021
01:57:09.900 --> 01:57:11.280
Noel Johnston: That are motorized off.

1022
01:57:11.790 --> 01:57:12.120
But.

1023
01:57:13.590 --> 01:57:21.840
Noel Johnston: we're we're creating a highway on the beach we're adding more concrete to the beach and we're we're possibly.

1024
01:57:22.710 --> 01:57:23.790
Noel Johnston: Creating quality of.

1025
01:57:23.790 --> 01:57:24.480
1609****346: Life issues.

1026
01:57:25.770 --> 01:57:26.520
All right, hold on.

1027
01:57:28.200 --> 01:57:28.800
jim robb: hold on.

1028
01:57:30.990 --> 01:57:35.490
1609****346: hold on question you want to answer that or no I watch because there's three other hands up and I.

1029
01:57:35.490 --> 01:57:37.080
jim robb: want to get this over shoulder.

1030
01:57:37.890 --> 01:57:38.310
1609****346: All right.

1031
01:57:38.370 --> 01:57:39.960
jim robb: Okay, Robin Europe.

1032
01:57:41.130 --> 01:57:43.680
1609****346: Why it's Robin router so.

1033
01:57:43.710 --> 01:57:45.810
Robin Rudisill: You know I absolutely agree that.

1034
01:57:46.260 --> 01:57:47.940
Robin Rudisill: scooter should not be commingled.

1035
01:57:47.940 --> 01:57:50.250
Robin Rudisill: With bikes but.

1036
01:57:50.340 --> 01:57:53.010
Robin Rudisill: what's strange to me is that this.

1037
01:57:53.010 --> 01:57:55.320
Robin Rudisill: feels like a response to the problem we.

1038
01:57:55.320 --> 01:57:56.610
1609****346: Have with the enforcement.

1039
01:57:56.850 --> 01:57:58.650
Robin Rudisill: they're not supposed to be coming with.

1040
01:57:59.700 --> 01:58:03.810
Robin Rudisill: And if there was adequate enforcement that wouldn't be an issue and I.

1041
01:58:03.900 --> 01:58:06.030
1609****346: And I think we'd have the same problem.

1042
01:58:06.060 --> 01:58:07.290
Robin Rudisill: with adequate enforcement.

1043
01:58:07.290 --> 01:58:12.210
Robin Rudisill: For this I, yet we don't get enforcement now I don't think we're going to get it for this either, and.

1044
01:58:13.350 --> 01:58:23.460
Robin Rudisill: You know venison mainly a neighborhood it's also a tourist destination, but it's not an amusement park and that's what i'm seeing with these.

1045
01:58:23.970 --> 01:58:29.700
Robin Rudisill: E scooters they it's like for joy writing, and this thrill of speeding and all that and I just hate to.

1046
01:58:30.660 --> 01:58:41.940
Robin Rudisill: enable more of that I i'd almost be more inclined to what, especially in on speedway because they're going to be on speedway anyway, and maybe it's better to keep the middle lane or something but.

1047
01:58:42.960 --> 01:58:44.970
Robin Rudisill: I guess that's my thoughts.

1048
01:58:45.390 --> 01:58:50.910
jim robb: All right, so hang on shit Sharon melnick Robert thibodeau.

1049
01:58:54.390 --> 01:59:02.670
robertthibodeau: Thanks but um yeah I it's I think the beach is the beach you don't need more traffic on the beach and.

1050
01:59:03.750 --> 01:59:25.680
robertthibodeau: Putting motorized vehicles, not a good idea, and you know loving Nick but I I I gotta agree with Robin Lisa Eric whoever Helen you were in there, too, I agree with those guys we don't need motorized vehicles on the beach, I mean it's that just does not seem like good idea thanks.

1051
01:59:26.010 --> 01:59:26.820
jim robb: Thanks Robert.

1052
01:59:28.440 --> 01:59:30.060
jim robb: All right, sure sharing.

1053
01:59:31.890 --> 01:59:42.000
Sharon Zhang - Superpedestrian: Thanks very, very briefly, rather than a question, I just wanted to offer just a point of clarification, again just in terms of the two different types of companies, I think that y'all referring to.

1054
01:59:42.300 --> 01:59:50.880
Sharon Zhang - Superpedestrian: First of all, thank you so much for including you know link into this conversation we have been taking notes throughout the night and we'll be sure to incorporate this in our operations.

1055
01:59:51.420 --> 02:00:02.460
Sharon Zhang - Superpedestrian: But he just wanted to just clarify really quickly around the dockless scooter companies and operation in that we currently actually do not cannot have any of our devices on ocean walk.

1056
02:00:02.820 --> 02:00:11.430
Sharon Zhang - Superpedestrian: So you know really in terms of what we're talking about here, I think, maybe some the scooters we're speaking on are more the Rentals that we're seeing on the boardwalk itself.

1057
02:00:11.700 --> 02:00:24.810
Sharon Zhang - Superpedestrian: So you just wanted to make sure that we were kind of separating these two kind of different companies out here and we're happy to work with y'all on, especially regarding kind of physical clutter kind of you know, as you all are mentioning but just wanted to make sure to clarify there.

1058
02:00:25.680 --> 02:00:29.340
jim robb: Thank you so much for that that's a great clarification too so.

1059
02:00:30.570 --> 02:00:31.590
jim robb: you're muted.

1060
02:00:33.240 --> 02:00:34.860
jim robb: Okay i'm gonna.

1061
02:00:36.330 --> 02:00:37.470
jim robb: unmute.

1062
02:00:38.760 --> 02:00:43.350
jim robb: Next, one last comment, making sure we're going to vote, and everybody can go.

1063
02:00:46.200 --> 02:00:46.470
jim robb: Next.

1064
02:00:48.150 --> 02:00:48.540
1609****346: yeah.

1065
02:00:49.980 --> 02:00:56.070
1609****346: What I thought was worth the conversation if the consensus of the committee is not to move forward on the motion and.

1066
02:00:57.150 --> 02:00:58.980
1609****346: I will certainly withdraw the motion.

1067
02:01:00.210 --> 02:01:02.700
1609****346: that's something that doesn't make sense to people but.

1068
02:01:03.390 --> 02:01:17.610
1609****346: I do think that these things are here to stay and if anyone here thinks that scooters aren't at the beach they're just not at the beach, because they are here and there, and they never needs to be dealt with and there's an additional and I think I need to.

1069
02:01:18.330 --> 02:01:34.260
jim robb: I think we got a lot of good points from scooter non scooter residents non residents, I think they're willing to help us out it sounds like all of them are want to be more helpful, I think we have to figure out what we want from them.

1070
02:01:34.290 --> 02:01:35.910
jim robb: Whether it be a bike corral.

1071
02:01:35.970 --> 02:01:41.370
jim robb: Whether it be more you know more of them picking them up so that there's consistently.

1072
02:01:41.910 --> 02:01:43.170
jim robb: 150 times.

1073
02:01:43.230 --> 02:01:45.480
jim robb: What 10 is the thousand.

1074
02:01:46.140 --> 02:01:46.770
That if there's.

1075
02:01:47.880 --> 02:01:50.070
jim robb: Five go out of out of Venice.

1076
02:01:50.160 --> 02:01:52.200
jim robb: They don't put five more back in you know.

1077
02:01:52.560 --> 02:02:01.170
jim robb: So I think there's a lot of stuff that we need to do, Peter go ahead and then let's see if we want to table this until we have a meeting, and we can talk about.

1078
02:02:01.170 --> 02:02:01.680
1609****346: It and.

1079
02:02:02.700 --> 02:02:04.350
jim robb: have more or what we can do, Brian and.

1080
02:02:04.890 --> 02:02:05.790
1609****346: I were to.

1081
02:02:05.970 --> 02:02:08.250
peter: Can I make a quick comment, yes.

1082
02:02:08.670 --> 02:02:10.020
1609****346: Okay, thanks um.

1083
02:02:10.290 --> 02:02:13.440
peter: You know i've been around Venice, since I was 11.

1084
02:02:13.530 --> 02:02:15.270
peter: And when we started writing.

1085
02:02:15.270 --> 02:02:16.590
1609****346: skateboards if.

1086
02:02:16.620 --> 02:02:18.300
peter: We were a huge nuisance.

1087
02:02:18.360 --> 02:02:26.580
peter: And we obviously Venice has come to love us skateboarders they built, you know, took us 20 years we built a skatepark.

1088
02:02:26.880 --> 02:02:47.490
peter: Our population is going to increase by double and however many years our bike path is outdated, we need to expand it like we would have free way, and that includes all electric vehicles, they can sort it out for themselves, they you know at least does pedestrians and the.

1089
02:02:49.620 --> 02:03:00.060
peter: bicycles, which were the original originated on the bike path, but picture a nice bike path, and you know, after some nice construction of.

1090
02:03:00.810 --> 02:03:10.290
peter: Where we incorporate maybe a tunnel that goes right underneath the bike path you know what I mean so pedestrians can just swoop underneath instead of.

1091
02:03:11.070 --> 02:03:21.930
peter: Even getting involved that's where we need to start thinking about is 10 years from now, the Olympics are coming, and we should have a really kick ass bike path with.

1092
02:03:22.470 --> 02:03:31.290
peter: You know, electric whatever we need in a lane and think futuristic because we're going to be gone so it's up to us to plan ahead for the next 10 years.

1093
02:03:31.620 --> 02:03:41.940
peter: Or you know or committee it's two years, so any motion we work on right now we're not even going to see it for a couple of years, we always have to think a couple years ahead and that's all I want to say.

1094
02:03:44.970 --> 02:03:55.620
jim robb: Okay, so Brian you're close us out with one comment and then we're going to vote, since there's a first in a second and we'll just vote, and if it passes passes it doesn't it doesn't.

1095
02:03:56.640 --> 02:04:03.390
Brian Averill: I think the first thing we need to address is whether or not Nick is withdrawing Nick did you want to withdraw wasn't I wasn't clear on that.

1096
02:04:04.590 --> 02:04:04.980
1609****346: well.

1097
02:04:06.270 --> 02:04:15.210
1609****346: I was willing to withdraw if there's no consensus and if everyone if you can pull the committee and say when they would rather not vote on this tonight.

1098
02:04:15.570 --> 02:04:22.050
1609****346: i'll be happy with drawer it unable to go work on something different, one of the things I didn't mention in the end, this motion is that.

1099
02:04:23.190 --> 02:04:38.340
1609****346: The past really needs to be illuminated and that's something that you know, has to happen as well, so if if it's just pulling the committee of people are against this and i'll withdraw it, or, if you want to have a vote, we can have a boat it's totally up to the chairman.

1100
02:04:39.960 --> 02:04:40.740
jim robb: I would say.

1101
02:04:41.670 --> 02:04:45.000
jim robb: I would say, withdraw it and work on something else I would think.

1102
02:04:47.010 --> 02:04:57.660
jim robb: that's what I that's what I would say on it and work on lights and work on this and maybe come up with a better for it and come up with a better idea let's just make it a better idea so let's just uh.

1103
02:04:58.320 --> 02:05:01.980
1609****346: what's wrong what's wrong okay all right, so that.

1104
02:05:02.100 --> 02:05:16.020
jim robb: means basically um let's Thank you everybody Thank you whoever's left on here we don't have to vote on anything Robert thibodeau, thank you for joining us hi Nick hi Nick thanks everybody.

1105
02:05:16.440 --> 02:05:18.150
jim robb: appreciate you watch the game.

1106
02:05:18.180 --> 02:05:19.920
jim robb: The game is over i'll tell you the score.

1107
02:05:21.480 --> 02:05:21.570
1609****346: Oh.

1108
02:05:25.590 --> 02:05:26.490
jim robb: My God guys.

1109
02:05:30.810 --> 02:05:33.600
peter: Can I john boy good night Mary Ellen.