WEBVTT 1 00:02:04.020 --> 00:02:05.250 jim robb: Yes, they did. 2 00:02:42.300 --> 00:02:43.290 james murez: we're getting closer. 3 00:02:57.720 --> 00:03:00.540 Daffodil Tyminski: To me, you may have to make me a Co host to run the zoom. 4 00:03:00.810 --> 00:03:02.370 james murez: yeah I haven't found you yet. 5 00:03:03.210 --> 00:03:04.110 james murez: or Oh, there you are. 6 00:03:06.540 --> 00:03:09.120 james murez: You know it's the thing doesn't always. 7 00:03:12.150 --> 00:03:16.080 james murez: click the first time, when you promote somebody sometimes you have to do it, two or three times. 8 00:03:19.650 --> 00:03:21.570 Daffodil Tyminski: You got it and Melissa is on as well. 9 00:03:22.740 --> 00:03:23.670 james murez: I saw that. 10 00:03:24.690 --> 00:03:25.470 james murez: i'm. 11 00:03:31.740 --> 00:03:33.150 james murez: Your co host by now. 12 00:03:33.930 --> 00:03:36.630 james murez: yeah and everybody can share screens. 13 00:03:40.530 --> 00:03:43.530 james murez: They tried the go once trying to again. 14 00:03:44.280 --> 00:03:45.480 Daffodil Tyminski: We have a quorum. 15 00:03:50.130 --> 00:03:53.220 james murez: And we see dwp and lapd are both here already. 16 00:03:54.510 --> 00:03:56.910 james murez: Melissa diner is still in the audience. 17 00:03:59.400 --> 00:04:01.260 james murez: i've tried three times to promote her. 18 00:04:02.340 --> 00:04:02.850 Daffodil Tyminski: Let me try. 19 00:04:03.300 --> 00:04:05.100 james murez: Now I just try it again let's see there, she is. 20 00:04:07.290 --> 00:04:08.370 james murez: In there see ma. 21 00:04:25.710 --> 00:04:26.580 james murez: The gym Robin yeah. 22 00:04:28.530 --> 00:04:29.820 james murez: there's another gym there. 23 00:04:48.390 --> 00:04:53.940 james murez: Committee members that are in the audience, please raise your hand now. 24 00:04:59.760 --> 00:05:07.320 james murez: Seeing no raised hands, I think, what do we have we have 17 yeah we have 17 board members that's enough to get started. 25 00:05:08.130 --> 00:05:08.520 yeah. 26 00:05:09.540 --> 00:05:11.850 james murez: i'm okay. 27 00:05:13.170 --> 00:05:13.830 james murez: Melissa. 28 00:05:15.180 --> 00:05:15.870 james murez: Are you there. 29 00:05:20.430 --> 00:05:22.650 james murez: So everybody knows, she contacted me she might not mad. 30 00:05:23.010 --> 00:05:26.010 james murez: yeah Okay, can you do roll call or do you want me to start off doing. 31 00:05:26.040 --> 00:05:27.690 melissadiner: I can take me a second. 32 00:05:27.840 --> 00:05:31.470 james murez: Okay, so we're opening this meeting at 602. 33 00:05:33.180 --> 00:05:34.650 james murez: Melissa please take the role. 34 00:05:46.470 --> 00:05:46.830 james murez: here. 35 00:05:47.130 --> 00:05:47.790 melissadiner: Stop it oh. 36 00:05:48.090 --> 00:05:49.950 melissadiner: yeah i'm President leaks. 37 00:05:51.450 --> 00:05:51.780 Alix: here. 38 00:05:52.050 --> 00:05:53.400 Vicki Halliday: vicki here. 39 00:05:56.550 --> 00:05:57.090 Sima Kostovetsky: here. 40 00:05:57.390 --> 00:05:58.980 Alley Bean: Ali here. 41 00:05:59.100 --> 00:06:00.420 Chie Lunn: hi here. 42 00:06:00.600 --> 00:06:01.440 melissadiner: Mike brava. 43 00:06:02.160 --> 00:06:02.520 Mike Bravo: yeah. 44 00:06:03.150 --> 00:06:03.900 melissadiner: How does this play. 45 00:06:04.410 --> 00:06:05.700 melissadiner: Here pull it up. 46 00:06:06.030 --> 00:06:11.310 melissadiner: Here oliver's not feeling well he's not coming James rob. 47 00:06:13.590 --> 00:06:13.980 melissadiner: He go. 48 00:06:14.940 --> 00:06:16.260 melissadiner: Here Scott Brown. 49 00:06:19.980 --> 00:06:20.250 melissadiner: Bad. 50 00:06:20.430 --> 00:06:22.650 james murez: I didn't see him, nor did I promote him so. 51 00:06:22.770 --> 00:06:26.100 Daffodil Tyminski: US Clark Brown and scan the homeowner both here, I will promote them now. 52 00:06:26.370 --> 00:06:27.180 james murez: Oh great Thank you. 53 00:06:27.870 --> 00:06:28.590 melissadiner: Alright, to video. 54 00:06:28.860 --> 00:06:30.240 melissadiner: Here, for now. 55 00:06:30.840 --> 00:06:31.170 here. 56 00:06:33.300 --> 00:06:34.410 melissadiner: Jason sugars. 57 00:06:39.330 --> 00:06:40.230 melissadiner: it's Jason here. 58 00:06:41.580 --> 00:06:42.300 james murez: didn't see him. 59 00:06:45.360 --> 00:06:47.640 Daffodil Tyminski: Do not see him. 60 00:06:47.700 --> 00:06:48.930 melissadiner: And dre about quality. 61 00:06:50.490 --> 00:06:50.970 melissadiner: DJ. 62 00:06:55.020 --> 00:06:55.560 melissadiner: DJ. 63 00:06:59.010 --> 00:07:00.420 james murez: cj you have to unmute yourself. 64 00:07:02.190 --> 00:07:02.700 CJ Cole: here. 65 00:07:03.540 --> 00:07:04.380 melissadiner: Stand Muhammad. 66 00:07:13.980 --> 00:07:19.710 melissadiner: 19 people are present to people are absent. 67 00:07:21.000 --> 00:07:22.140 james murez: Great okay. 68 00:07:23.760 --> 00:07:25.290 james murez: Let me start by. 69 00:07:26.370 --> 00:07:28.710 james murez: sharing my screen of the agenda. 70 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:33.600 james murez: and moving right along. 71 00:07:38.160 --> 00:07:54.180 james murez: let's dedicate this meeting to honoring the indigenous people that we didn't celebrate their day and accident and error, no, you know, it was a I guess perhaps my fault but it wasn't on the calendar, it was on the calendar is. 72 00:07:55.050 --> 00:08:06.960 james murez: Columbus day and that's not something that typically was something that I realized was celebrated holiday and, since they changed it this year let's dedicate this meeting to the indigenous peoples day. 73 00:08:08.160 --> 00:08:10.770 james murez: i'm moving forward. 74 00:08:12.360 --> 00:08:16.200 james murez: We need a motion to approve the August 17. 75 00:08:17.520 --> 00:08:18.420 james murez: board minutes. 76 00:08:18.570 --> 00:08:20.280 Alix: i'll make the motion Jim it's a leaks. 77 00:08:20.910 --> 00:08:21.840 Vicki Halliday: vicki will second. 78 00:08:22.680 --> 00:08:26.670 james murez: Thank you vicki um any comment. 79 00:08:27.930 --> 00:08:29.040 james murez: Let me. 80 00:08:30.420 --> 00:08:31.950 james murez: bring up the list. 81 00:08:32.520 --> 00:08:35.490 Daffodil Tyminski: ready, I have no hands raised in the attendees shampoo. 82 00:08:35.700 --> 00:08:38.970 james murez: Okay, any any any committee members have any. 83 00:08:39.630 --> 00:08:43.920 Daffodil Tyminski: So seeing no hands raised in the public we're going to close public comment and move on to the committee. 84 00:08:44.130 --> 00:08:46.500 Daffodil Tyminski: So we have no hands raised in the committee. 85 00:08:46.950 --> 00:08:50.490 james murez: Clark you just decided to take over sharing the meeting screen. 86 00:08:51.750 --> 00:08:53.340 james murez: that's not a good idea. 87 00:08:54.180 --> 00:08:58.680 james murez: Sorry yeah so so let me go back and. 88 00:09:01.080 --> 00:09:01.920 Daffodil Tyminski: I got a Clark. 89 00:09:02.610 --> 00:09:03.060 yeah. 90 00:09:04.830 --> 00:09:07.020 james murez: So let me go back to sharing our agenda. 91 00:09:07.560 --> 00:09:09.240 melissadiner: Oh, can I take roll call now. 92 00:09:09.690 --> 00:09:10.590 james murez: Yes, please. 93 00:09:11.760 --> 00:09:13.170 melissadiner: Are not real called the boat. 94 00:09:13.680 --> 00:09:14.550 james murez: The boat for the. 95 00:09:14.730 --> 00:09:15.600 james murez: August 17. 96 00:09:16.650 --> 00:09:18.000 james murez: Yes, Jim yes. 97 00:09:18.660 --> 00:09:20.070 Daffodil Tyminski: daffodil yes. 98 00:09:20.190 --> 00:09:21.450 melissadiner: I vote yes, the leaks. 99 00:09:22.770 --> 00:09:24.150 Alix: Yes, biggie. 100 00:09:24.450 --> 00:09:25.500 Vicki Halliday: Yes, see. 101 00:09:26.820 --> 00:09:27.180 Sima Kostovetsky: ya. 102 00:09:27.720 --> 00:09:28.980 Alley Bean: Ali yes. 103 00:09:29.100 --> 00:09:31.830 melissadiner: Cry yes my bravo. 104 00:09:32.370 --> 00:09:33.780 melissadiner: Yes, was it clay. 105 00:09:34.200 --> 00:09:35.850 melissadiner: Yes, full dad. 106 00:09:35.970 --> 00:09:37.560 melissadiner: Yes, James Brown. 107 00:09:37.980 --> 00:09:38.370 Yes. 108 00:09:40.020 --> 00:09:40.470 Nico Ruderman: Yes. 109 00:09:40.680 --> 00:09:41.640 melissadiner: Clark Brown. 110 00:09:41.700 --> 00:09:43.200 melissadiner: Yes, narrative it out. 111 00:09:44.910 --> 00:09:45.660 robertthibodeau: Yes. 112 00:09:45.840 --> 00:09:47.010 melissadiner: For now Hernandez. 113 00:09:47.430 --> 00:09:48.810 melissadiner: Yes, Andrea. 114 00:09:49.170 --> 00:09:50.370 melissadiner: This cj. 115 00:09:50.790 --> 00:09:51.990 melissadiner: Yes, Dan. 116 00:09:52.860 --> 00:10:01.320 james murez: yeah 19 00 did you Melissa did you add Clark, to the roster. 117 00:10:01.770 --> 00:10:02.370 melissadiner: he's on there. 118 00:10:02.700 --> 00:10:04.290 melissadiner: From my doctor said he was. 119 00:10:04.530 --> 00:10:11.430 james murez: Okay, thank you um now I need a motion to approve the September 21 board meeting minutes. 120 00:10:11.700 --> 00:10:12.750 Alley Bean: i'll make the motion. 121 00:10:13.170 --> 00:10:13.740 james murez: Who is a. 122 00:10:14.010 --> 00:10:17.010 james murez: alley second second. 123 00:10:17.370 --> 00:10:19.320 james murez: Robert Thank you Robert. 124 00:10:20.790 --> 00:10:23.670 james murez: Do we have any public comment I see two hands are raised. 125 00:10:25.440 --> 00:10:26.610 james murez: The two hands. 126 00:10:29.370 --> 00:10:31.560 Daffodil Tyminski: It sounds Helen fallon and arrow to say. 127 00:10:32.520 --> 00:10:34.110 james murez: Okay, so. 128 00:10:35.160 --> 00:10:36.750 Daffodil Tyminski: Helen why don't you go first. 129 00:10:38.640 --> 00:10:47.400 Helen Fallon: I just want to point out that it's difficult to promote on both on Minutes that have not been posted either the special meeting or the regular meeting hosted. 130 00:10:49.290 --> 00:10:51.840 Helen Fallon: So the public has had no opportunity to do with movies. 131 00:10:57.900 --> 00:10:59.610 Daffodil Tyminski: um go ahead. 132 00:11:03.360 --> 00:11:21.750 Darryl DuFay: Mine is the same thing the file number 23420 is for an agenda, it is not for the Minutes and the Minutes are not there you can't find the Minutes, because if you click on the file that's supposed to be the Minutes that comes up with an agenda. 133 00:11:23.880 --> 00:11:32.190 james murez: yeah I see the problem and both of you are describing I just clicked on the I just copied and pasted the link into the address line, and although it says. 134 00:11:32.190 --> 00:11:35.520 Darryl DuFay: That that's 20 316 so that's for August. 135 00:11:37.560 --> 00:11:39.090 that's for August. 136 00:11:41.190 --> 00:11:48.930 Darryl DuFay: And when I when I knew I didn't have the Minutes, because when they whenever it came up there's there was no red markings like anything happened. 137 00:11:48.930 --> 00:11:53.100 melissadiner: they're not posted so let's just move on, we don't need to debate it more Jim. 138 00:11:53.280 --> 00:11:54.870 james murez: Well then, we cannot approve them. 139 00:11:55.590 --> 00:11:56.850 melissadiner: yeah no problem. 140 00:12:00.090 --> 00:12:04.740 james murez: There September just the first word right there says agenda instead of minutes. 141 00:12:04.890 --> 00:12:06.660 Darryl DuFay: Yes, and if you. 142 00:12:07.290 --> 00:12:09.240 james murez: The information is there. 143 00:12:10.260 --> 00:12:14.280 Darryl DuFay: Not there is not any red marketing at all at anything to. 144 00:12:14.280 --> 00:12:20.730 james murez: Open the September one you're right I didn't notice that I thought the September one was there okay my bad. 145 00:12:22.140 --> 00:12:23.910 james murez: So we can't approve this September one. 146 00:12:25.320 --> 00:12:29.400 james murez: But we did approve the biggest one, although it says. 147 00:12:31.200 --> 00:12:34.530 james murez: agenda at the top we'll have to get that corrected, but those were the Minutes. 148 00:12:35.970 --> 00:12:40.380 james murez: This, this is the Minutes for August, it has all the information so. 149 00:12:42.000 --> 00:12:43.470 james murez: Okay let's keep moving on. 150 00:12:44.940 --> 00:12:45.630 james murez: um. 151 00:12:50.280 --> 00:12:51.210 james murez: Presidents report. 152 00:12:53.790 --> 00:12:59.610 james murez: So the first thing is, we have a deadline, we need to get. 153 00:13:01.020 --> 00:13:04.380 james murez: Our redistricting plan into the city. 154 00:13:06.240 --> 00:13:19.710 james murez: By next week and they've sort of created a deadline or two and it's sort of unclear that continue to push it around so everybody will have an opportunity to discuss and. 155 00:13:21.120 --> 00:13:23.040 james murez: Take some position on the. 156 00:13:27.150 --> 00:13:38.370 james murez: items that we're going to be presenting to them, we need to have a special meeting and so these were the three dates that I drew out of the hat that seemed like the most convenient times for people. 157 00:13:39.270 --> 00:13:53.670 james murez: It seems as though i've gotten several responses back for the time a and the time be which are Saturday, either at 11 or at one, and what I would like to do is is go through. 158 00:13:56.640 --> 00:14:07.740 james murez: The list of board members right now that are here and see who can make each of the meetings, so we can have some idea of whether or not we can get 11 Members to have a quorum for that meeting so. 159 00:14:07.800 --> 00:14:11.010 Daffodil Tyminski: And Jim Jim rob has his hand raised, he may have a question. 160 00:14:11.400 --> 00:14:18.300 jim robb: Okay, I have my ocean for a walk meeting on the 25th at 6pm with the scooter companies. 161 00:14:19.140 --> 00:14:24.780 james murez: Okay, so that wouldn't work so we're going to do it on Saturday I think it's going to either be the heir to be time okay. 162 00:14:24.870 --> 00:14:26.100 jim robb: That helps Thank you. 163 00:14:26.280 --> 00:14:27.930 james murez: yeah let me see if I can. 164 00:14:29.100 --> 00:14:33.240 james murez: I just need to very quickly i'm going to run a quick tally on this and see. 165 00:14:34.470 --> 00:14:35.340 james murez: see who can. 166 00:14:36.720 --> 00:14:37.500 james murez: Why can't. 167 00:14:41.190 --> 00:14:42.120 james murez: hang on one second. 168 00:14:43.230 --> 00:14:48.750 jim robb: Thanks Robert if you can join or send somebody if you want to for the meeting on the 25th. 169 00:14:50.820 --> 00:14:54.270 robertthibodeau: Okay yeah you mentioned that before and we'll we'll. 170 00:14:56.310 --> 00:14:58.770 robertthibodeau: Okay meet me or john or one of the guys would be there. 171 00:15:00.630 --> 00:15:01.860 james murez: For the time. 172 00:15:03.450 --> 00:15:04.200 james murez: That would be. 173 00:15:05.430 --> 00:15:17.910 james murez: 11 o'clock in the morning i'm just going to quickly run through the the board members names and if I asked your name, please tell me whether or not you can buy yes or no real quickly daffodil. 174 00:15:18.360 --> 00:15:19.770 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm sure Saturday. 175 00:15:20.550 --> 00:15:21.150 Okay. 176 00:15:22.890 --> 00:15:23.460 james murez: Melissa. 177 00:15:25.830 --> 00:15:26.580 james murez: Yes or no. 178 00:15:27.870 --> 00:15:28.710 james murez: With the time. 179 00:15:30.390 --> 00:15:31.350 melissadiner: i'm abstaining. 180 00:15:34.470 --> 00:15:35.070 james murez: Andre. 181 00:15:35.970 --> 00:15:36.390 No. 182 00:15:39.540 --> 00:15:40.110 james murez: lake. 183 00:15:43.440 --> 00:15:43.860 Alix: No. 184 00:15:46.710 --> 00:15:47.190 james murez: vicki. 185 00:15:48.060 --> 00:15:48.570 Yes. 186 00:15:49.740 --> 00:15:50.400 james murez: See ma. 187 00:15:51.750 --> 00:15:53.490 Sima Kostovetsky: I can do, one on Saturday. 188 00:15:54.630 --> 00:15:59.700 james murez: So the time or the be i'm asking about the time right now it's in the morning 11 o'clock. 189 00:16:01.920 --> 00:16:03.240 Sima Kostovetsky: No Jim Thank you. 190 00:16:05.160 --> 00:16:05.670 james murez: Ali. 191 00:16:06.060 --> 00:16:06.660 Yes. 192 00:16:09.000 --> 00:16:09.420 james murez: hi. 193 00:16:09.990 --> 00:16:10.440 Now. 194 00:16:13.110 --> 00:16:13.740 james murez: cj. 195 00:16:14.340 --> 00:16:14.970 Yes. 196 00:16:16.440 --> 00:16:17.010 james murez: Mike. 197 00:16:17.880 --> 00:16:18.450 Yes. 198 00:16:20.370 --> 00:16:21.000 james murez: Elizabeth. 199 00:16:21.690 --> 00:16:22.200 No. 200 00:16:24.600 --> 00:16:25.290 james murez: Solid yeah. 201 00:16:26.370 --> 00:16:29.880 Soledad Ursua: I can do either so should I just abstain i'll do whatever you guys want. 202 00:16:30.450 --> 00:16:34.200 james murez: i'll just put a yes for now okay Jason are you here to Jason show up. 203 00:16:35.340 --> 00:16:38.430 james murez: I don't think so okay oliver's not here, Jim rob. 204 00:16:40.440 --> 00:16:40.920 jim robb: No. 205 00:16:43.080 --> 00:16:43.710 james murez: NICO. 206 00:16:44.640 --> 00:16:46.110 Nico Ruderman: I apologize was that this Saturday. 207 00:16:46.500 --> 00:16:49.410 james murez: yeah this Saturday at 11 o'clock yeah no. 208 00:16:51.120 --> 00:16:53.790 james murez: yeah no that was like a oxymoron okay um. 209 00:16:53.820 --> 00:16:54.570 james murez: No Florida. 210 00:16:55.440 --> 00:16:55.920 know. 211 00:16:58.080 --> 00:16:58.710 james murez: Stan. 212 00:16:59.280 --> 00:16:59.820 know. 213 00:17:01.560 --> 00:17:02.040 james murez: Robert. 214 00:17:03.780 --> 00:17:09.450 robertthibodeau: i'm the same as soledad so i'm either expanding or whatever, whatever I can do either. 215 00:17:10.050 --> 00:17:12.180 james murez: Okay, great Bruno. 216 00:17:13.170 --> 00:17:13.620 Bruno Hernandez: And now. 217 00:17:15.150 --> 00:17:26.040 james murez: Okay let's see if we have 11 1236 and seven, so we only have seven What about the be time. 218 00:17:27.930 --> 00:17:31.290 james murez: Did anybody was anybody able to make to be time it couldn't make the time. 219 00:17:32.730 --> 00:17:35.430 james murez: that'd be one o'clock one o'clock in the afternoon on Saturday. 220 00:17:35.820 --> 00:17:37.320 Alix: I can jam it's a leaks. 221 00:17:38.820 --> 00:17:45.870 james murez: um Okay, let me go through the list again so on yes daffodil yes or no. 222 00:17:46.530 --> 00:17:47.850 Daffodil Tyminski: Probably not uncertain. 223 00:17:48.810 --> 00:17:50.100 james murez: Okay, Melissa. 224 00:17:53.160 --> 00:17:54.810 melissadiner: I have family in town, this weekend. 225 00:17:56.490 --> 00:17:57.150 james murez: Yes or no. 226 00:17:58.200 --> 00:17:58.590 melissadiner: No. 227 00:18:00.210 --> 00:18:00.720 james murez: Andre. 228 00:18:00.990 --> 00:18:02.310 Andrea Boccaletti: Yes or no yes. 229 00:18:04.470 --> 00:18:05.490 james murez: A leak, yes or no. 230 00:18:06.510 --> 00:18:06.960 Alix: Yes. 231 00:18:08.550 --> 00:18:12.570 james murez: vicki yes or no, yes, see my yes or no. 232 00:18:15.240 --> 00:18:15.780 Sima Kostovetsky: Yes. 233 00:18:18.000 --> 00:18:18.720 james murez: Yes or no. 234 00:18:19.050 --> 00:18:19.650 Yes. 235 00:18:21.480 --> 00:18:22.920 james murez: Yes or no yes. 236 00:18:24.150 --> 00:18:25.350 james murez: cj yes or no. 237 00:18:25.650 --> 00:18:26.130 Yes. 238 00:18:27.360 --> 00:18:28.680 james murez: Mike bravo yes or no. 239 00:18:29.070 --> 00:18:29.640 Yes. 240 00:18:30.840 --> 00:18:32.220 james murez: Elizabeth play yes or no. 241 00:18:33.780 --> 00:18:38.550 ElizabethClay: i'm going to change for the morning, I have to say no, for the sun put me back on the morning one. 242 00:18:38.790 --> 00:18:39.300 Okay. 243 00:18:40.980 --> 00:18:46.140 james murez: But we're only going to do one but that's Okay, we just have to get 11 people Sola dad yes or no. 244 00:18:46.710 --> 00:18:47.580 Soledad Ursua: Yes, either. 245 00:18:49.800 --> 00:18:54.090 james murez: Jason yes or no he's not here all of her is not here, Jim rock yes or no. 246 00:18:54.390 --> 00:18:55.560 jim robb: Yes, for the late one. 247 00:18:56.010 --> 00:18:58.860 james murez: Yes, for the way one NICO for one o'clock Saturday. 248 00:18:59.730 --> 00:19:00.120 No. 249 00:19:01.380 --> 00:19:02.070 james murez: Okay. 250 00:19:02.460 --> 00:19:03.480 james murez: Clark, yes or no. 251 00:19:03.510 --> 00:19:04.140 So. 252 00:19:05.700 --> 00:19:06.900 james murez: Stan yes or no. 253 00:19:07.410 --> 00:19:07.950 No. 254 00:19:09.240 --> 00:19:10.620 james murez: Robert tippett oh yes or no. 255 00:19:11.040 --> 00:19:12.240 robertthibodeau: i'm yes i'm coaching. 256 00:19:13.980 --> 00:19:14.880 james murez: Bruno yes or no. 257 00:19:15.750 --> 00:19:16.050 No. 258 00:19:17.550 --> 00:19:19.410 james murez: Okay, let me just quickly. 259 00:19:29.340 --> 00:19:41.730 james murez: So we have 12 people everybody shows up, we can have a meeting so it'll be one o'clock i'll post the agenda or a one item agenda on Saturday at one o'clock. 260 00:19:44.280 --> 00:19:46.800 james murez: Okay, glad we got that like. 261 00:19:47.100 --> 00:19:48.570 james murez: zoo yeah what. 262 00:19:48.930 --> 00:19:49.740 Alley Bean: Is it zoom. 263 00:19:49.770 --> 00:19:50.790 james murez: yeah it will be a zoom me. 264 00:19:51.510 --> 00:19:51.870 Alley Bean: Thank you. 265 00:19:52.260 --> 00:19:54.120 james murez: I have a couple of quick announcements. 266 00:19:56.220 --> 00:20:07.920 james murez: In in, I would like everybody to make a special be particularly aware that next month we're going to change public comment and on our agenda, let me quickly share our screen. 267 00:20:09.480 --> 00:20:11.280 Where it says soon. 268 00:20:13.110 --> 00:20:17.010 While poisons acting with thurston to hold on one second box. 269 00:20:19.200 --> 00:20:20.310 james murez: There soon. 270 00:20:32.670 --> 00:20:35.790 james murez: I just want to point out this note, right here. 271 00:20:37.020 --> 00:20:41.280 james murez: describes how we are going to be changing public comment come next month. 272 00:20:43.320 --> 00:20:50.190 james murez: And I want everybody to be aware of it, no, no surprises or shocks they're going to put all of the public comment at the beginning of the meeting. 273 00:20:50.550 --> 00:21:02.190 james murez: Rather than throughout the entire meeting so it'll be handled more the way the city and coastal Commission handles it um there's next item that I want to make everyone aware of. 274 00:21:03.570 --> 00:21:13.380 james murez: um there is an able training which Freddie sent us all information about he actually sent us a long laundry list of all sorts of things that. 275 00:21:13.770 --> 00:21:23.820 james murez: done is now offering it's on the Item number three on the list if it's a The anti what's it called the the a bolt a ble was anti. 276 00:21:24.510 --> 00:21:33.270 james murez: bias something around there I don't remember what the acronym was but anyway, I wanted to make that everybody pay attention that the end of November, I believe, is the due date for that. 277 00:21:35.190 --> 00:21:36.750 james murez: next item, I wanted to mention. 278 00:21:38.520 --> 00:21:54.030 james murez: The bylaws say that all board members are supposed to participate on at least one committee a bunch of board members are not participating on any committees as of now it's now been three months, and I wanted to remind everybody that that's required. 279 00:21:56.040 --> 00:21:56.880 james murez: Last month. 280 00:21:58.110 --> 00:21:59.820 james murez: NICO made a great suggestion. 281 00:22:00.870 --> 00:22:17.910 james murez: let's have a qr code that talks about events, this is the qr code that now talks about events and this webpage then in cincy forward slash events is a new place where outreach is going to start putting all of our event information, I want to make everybody aware of that. 282 00:22:20.730 --> 00:22:33.990 james murez: I sent out to the entire board, and I only got one or two feedbacks about a list of YouTube addresses that I sent out that referenced all of the items on our agenda today. 283 00:22:34.380 --> 00:22:44.850 james murez: And, before I take the hour hour and a half that it took me to put that together for future meetings, I would like to get some idea from the rest of you can send me an email, whether or not it was helpful to be able to have. 284 00:22:47.460 --> 00:22:58.740 james murez: The YouTube with the agenda item, so you could listen to what happened in the committee meetings and you'd be more informed when you come to the Board and the last thing that I would like to mention. 285 00:23:00.660 --> 00:23:13.080 james murez: I have gotten several complaints from different board members and from stakeholders about the code of conduct of some of our board members attacking them either on social media or verbally. 286 00:23:14.040 --> 00:23:30.840 james murez: that's unacceptable, we have to respect each other, and we have to be nice and, at the end of the day, we all have to work together, and the only way that's going to work in any kind of a positive format is if we are polite so having said that. 287 00:23:32.460 --> 00:23:35.670 james murez: Any ex parte communications or conflict of interest. 288 00:23:35.970 --> 00:23:42.060 Daffodil Tyminski: To you, we have a few hands raised, I don't know if their questions, but also we wanted to talk about motions submitted. 289 00:23:44.010 --> 00:23:53.220 james murez: Why don't you talk about motion submitted, and then the hands that are raised typically during the, I guess, we can do that, and so, why don't I go through the hands real quick. 290 00:23:53.640 --> 00:23:54.150 james murez: And I. 291 00:23:54.450 --> 00:23:56.280 Daffodil Tyminski: And they finally leaks and. 292 00:23:56.280 --> 00:23:57.630 Daffodil Tyminski: cj have a question. 293 00:23:57.720 --> 00:24:00.660 james murez: yeah I stopped sharing, so I could see go ahead tj. 294 00:24:01.710 --> 00:24:04.800 CJ Cole: Okay, my question had to do with. 295 00:24:05.850 --> 00:24:16.260 CJ Cole: The first item, which was putting your public comments to the front, which I have no problems with except that if. 296 00:24:18.360 --> 00:24:26.850 CJ Cole: You have anybody not I mean anybody asks that the arm. 297 00:24:27.990 --> 00:24:34.770 CJ Cole: You know it's the one you know the ones that you know, are the wait a second I had it marked on my agenda. 298 00:24:34.980 --> 00:24:44.850 james murez: Read me cj let me, let me interrupt you, if I may we're going to be publishing exactly how that's going to work I just put it on there as a note so everybody would be aware of it. 299 00:24:44.880 --> 00:24:47.280 james murez: There are some details that we have to still work through. 300 00:24:47.280 --> 00:24:50.460 james murez: And document, for instance, if emotion is. 301 00:24:50.490 --> 00:24:52.620 james murez: is altered during the meeting if somebody wants to. 302 00:24:52.620 --> 00:24:55.770 james murez: create an altar emotion that will reopen public comment on that one item. 303 00:24:57.450 --> 00:25:01.110 CJ Cole: yeah my My concern was ones that were on the. 304 00:25:02.790 --> 00:25:03.930 CJ Cole: The consent. 305 00:25:05.130 --> 00:25:07.380 CJ Cole: Calendar if they get pulled off. 306 00:25:11.130 --> 00:25:11.700 james murez: i'm. 307 00:25:12.840 --> 00:25:16.410 james murez: Working we can get into that more um. 308 00:25:17.910 --> 00:25:20.250 james murez: I don't I don't have an answer for you right now okay. 309 00:25:21.390 --> 00:25:22.170 james murez: Kelly go ahead. 310 00:25:22.710 --> 00:25:28.890 Alley Bean: I am my my only question about this it's the same it's the same a point of question. 311 00:25:29.640 --> 00:25:39.240 Alley Bean: On I just is that something that we're we're as a board going to be able to have a discussion about my feeling is like if it's a big big item. 312 00:25:40.170 --> 00:25:46.410 Alley Bean: That comes towards the end of the meeting that's have specific say land use issue or something with specifics. 313 00:25:46.980 --> 00:25:57.180 Alley Bean: If it's at the very beginning of the meeting, my gut reaction, because I didn't know this was going to be just sort of decided would be that people might not remember. 314 00:25:57.810 --> 00:26:04.830 Alley Bean: You know that somebody thought that X, Y and Z was going to happen, and if the public comment is right before that. 315 00:26:05.340 --> 00:26:16.050 Alley Bean: agenda item I would think it would be more fresh in our mind, so I was wondering what the thinking behind that wasn't do we get to vote on that or is that just a decision because i'm not actually sure that I would. 316 00:26:16.680 --> 00:26:19.710 james murez: So yeah let me, let me, let me stop the discussion about this. 317 00:26:19.980 --> 00:26:22.830 Daffodil Tyminski: And let me just jump in that we do have lapd waiting. 318 00:26:22.830 --> 00:26:23.250 james murez: So. 319 00:26:23.580 --> 00:26:25.770 Daffodil Tyminski: I don't want anything questions, but we need to start. 320 00:26:25.830 --> 00:26:27.450 james murez: Really normally the presidents. 321 00:26:27.450 --> 00:26:37.110 james murez: Report does not get any public comment or any committee comment whatsoever, this is a bad idea and i'm going to stop it at this point, everybody has to put their hands back down we'll get into this stuff. 322 00:26:37.410 --> 00:26:43.590 james murez: We can talk about this kind of thing offline This is all procedural it has nothing to do with the content of the meeting. 323 00:26:44.040 --> 00:26:52.320 james murez: So we're not going to get into the details of it here and i'll be happy to talk to ellie or cj anybody that wants to talk about this, you happy to discuss it with them later. 324 00:26:52.830 --> 00:26:53.370 Alix: yeah I. 325 00:26:53.460 --> 00:26:56.610 Alix: Question that's not on the procedure, can I just ask it quickly. 326 00:26:57.420 --> 00:27:12.540 Alix: Okay, thanks sorry it's really just about the the note that Freddie said I was a little confused as to whether they're these are additional required trainings or they just trainings if we want to is the bias training required I wasn't quite clear on that, so I would just love your. 327 00:27:14.160 --> 00:27:21.450 james murez: The only the only training that is required is that able training, which is to by the end of September it's number three the rest of them. 328 00:27:21.630 --> 00:27:22.140 Alix: got it well. 329 00:27:22.230 --> 00:27:28.890 james murez: it's it's all just training to be able, for people to become more educated I believe they are reopening the. 330 00:27:29.280 --> 00:27:38.610 james murez: loop pack training the 101 loop Pack and i'm going to see if we can get all of it, make it possible for all of our board members also take that to everybody, because if we created, but I don't have an answer on that yet. 331 00:27:39.060 --> 00:27:39.360 Thank you. 332 00:27:40.800 --> 00:27:44.220 james murez: Thank you everyone now let's move on with our agenda. 333 00:27:49.620 --> 00:27:52.830 james murez: Okay, a daffodil do you have something you want to say about motions. 334 00:27:53.610 --> 00:27:57.510 Daffodil Tyminski: We can wait on that i'll, this is a procedural issue, I can send an email on. 335 00:27:57.990 --> 00:27:59.400 james murez: Thank you let's say. 336 00:27:59.460 --> 00:28:00.960 robertthibodeau: I have a question on the agenda. 337 00:28:01.950 --> 00:28:05.730 james murez: i'm is it a is it about the. 338 00:28:05.970 --> 00:28:07.140 james murez: quickie report. 339 00:28:07.560 --> 00:28:07.860 james murez: know. 340 00:28:08.190 --> 00:28:12.960 james murez: Then let's repeat let's wait until after five be and we can get into it. 341 00:28:13.410 --> 00:28:14.640 robertthibodeau: hands going down then. 342 00:28:14.700 --> 00:28:19.170 james murez: Thank you i'm daffodil can you go ahead and promote lapd. 343 00:28:20.130 --> 00:28:21.990 Daffodil Tyminski: Sure um. 344 00:28:24.600 --> 00:28:26.850 Daffodil Tyminski: let's see I just saw you guys here hold on. 345 00:28:26.910 --> 00:28:28.320 james murez: yeah let's see maybe I can find. 346 00:28:28.590 --> 00:28:29.430 activision. 347 00:28:32.220 --> 00:28:35.940 Daffodil Tyminski: Pacific Ocean you're unmuted i'm promoting you as a panelist. 348 00:28:42.810 --> 00:28:43.380 Pacific Division: you hear me. 349 00:28:43.920 --> 00:28:44.190 Daffodil Tyminski: Yes. 350 00:28:44.340 --> 00:28:44.880 Daffodil Tyminski: We got you. 351 00:28:45.330 --> 00:28:46.890 Pacific Division: All right, good, would you like me to start. 352 00:28:47.280 --> 00:28:54.750 Pacific Division: Please okay hey just wanted to say, good evening to all members of the board and as well as the the viewing community at large. 353 00:28:55.020 --> 00:29:01.440 Pacific Division: Anyway, I know Dennis has had a lot of negative crime news from the last couple years so i'm very pleased tonight to be able to come here. 354 00:29:01.920 --> 00:29:16.470 Pacific Division: and give you some good news as far as the incident of crime, so as far as area why I want to give you some put in perspective, so we are going in the right direction, as far as incident crime, especially violent crime so area why. 355 00:29:17.580 --> 00:29:33.420 Pacific Division: Year to date for violent crimes were up 31% compared to the previous year we presently in the mid October sit at up 14.6% in the incidence of violent crime which is very significant so week after week. 356 00:29:34.770 --> 00:29:40.050 Pacific Division: We have experienced a great reduction, especially in also control versus area. 357 00:29:40.560 --> 00:29:51.870 Pacific Division: In the reduction of violent crime so i'm going to break it up into two areas of interests which are relevant to both of you to all of you, which is going to be oceanfront walk and secondly i'm going to talk about a pH, which is a different story. 358 00:29:52.590 --> 00:30:11.700 Pacific Division: So the Venice beach we utilize or we look at our August 7 as a transitional moment, because at that point that was when Venice beach was clearly reopens and we were also provided with overtime from our department to appropriately staff, the beach and the surrounding area Venice community. 359 00:30:12.840 --> 00:30:20.490 Pacific Division: So officers from other divisions, who were load from city wide from other divisions to supplement our deployment of the beach. 360 00:30:20.910 --> 00:30:26.640 Pacific Division: are going back to their home areas of assignment on October 24, so we are going to have a somewhat. 361 00:30:27.480 --> 00:30:40.410 Pacific Division: Reduced deployment and Venice beach as of October 24 However, thanks to the support of my bureau chief chief blake chow he committed to allowing us to retain the boxers from Hollywood wilshere. 362 00:30:41.130 --> 00:30:48.210 Pacific Division: West Los Angeles and Olympic areas so that impact is going to be not quite as big additionally. 363 00:30:48.750 --> 00:31:04.320 Pacific Division: We are we've been provided over time so four days a week i'm allowed to hire one sergeant and four officers, which I deploy on a foot beat four days a week, eight hours a day to maintain public safety and ocean from walk in it's and it's shown great results. 364 00:31:05.490 --> 00:31:17.220 Pacific Division: Additionally, we are monitoring the voyages cleanups we made some recommendations to wrap as far as the posting policy and you should see some changes of far as the oil just clean up starting next Friday. 365 00:31:18.090 --> 00:31:28.770 Pacific Division: And the evening cleanups which I have been asked questions about have stopped because sanitation, has a somewhat limited deployment, they are refocusing much of their efforts to doing. 366 00:31:29.460 --> 00:31:39.300 Pacific Division: Similar and chemists to homes at MacArthur park so they're putting all of the resources there and we're going to try to hold the line and Venice beach and ensure that's open open for public use. 367 00:31:39.540 --> 00:31:50.340 Pacific Division: So some of the mechanisms we use to monitor that is on a daily basis, I have our beach detail go to the ocean front walk they go all the way up to down ocean from walk and give me number one account tense. 368 00:31:50.670 --> 00:31:56.670 Pacific Division: Number to a kind of bulky items, even though we don't enforce bulky items, now we monitor that for situational awareness. 369 00:31:57.060 --> 00:32:06.960 Pacific Division: And the options go back and throughout the rest of your shift they go and address all of those locations conduct outreach they also meet with a personnel from the mayor's circle team, which is on a. 370 00:32:08.280 --> 00:32:12.960 Pacific Division: Which is on a pilot program in our area to engage with these persons experiencing homelessness. 371 00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:25.740 Pacific Division: So let me go over the crime stats for you and, as I said, we use August 7 as a transitional moment, so all of my recent reading estimates are updated from. 372 00:32:26.460 --> 00:32:39.570 Pacific Division: August 8 to the present day and previous similar time period before that and I compare what the crime impact is for the changes that occurred at ocean from walk so number one. 373 00:32:40.320 --> 00:32:59.010 Pacific Division: So 74 day period, including may 27 through August 7 versus August 8 through October 18 homicides are down 100% we had one homicide in the previous period, and the current career, we have zero rates are down 50%. 374 00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:09.120 Pacific Division: aggravated assaults are down 65% which is significant that's 37 aggravated assaults versus only 13 aggravated assaults at Venice beach. 375 00:33:09.570 --> 00:33:15.360 Pacific Division: The last 75 days, which is night and day I don't think we've seen those numbers for probably about four years in Venice. 376 00:33:16.110 --> 00:33:33.930 Pacific Division: robberies unfortunately are up by 11% nine verses 10 overall violent crime at Venice beach is down 51% which is significant you don't see those kind of those kind of drops we usually shoot for 3% crime reduction in this case significant 51%. 377 00:33:35.040 --> 00:33:38.370 Pacific Division: Transit related violent crime is down 56%. 378 00:33:40.590 --> 00:33:59.070 Pacific Division: Property crimes similar story burglaries break broke even further to motor vehicles down 33% steps down 32% overall property crime down 29% so i'm proud to say that cartland crimes at Venice beach or down 42%. 379 00:34:00.630 --> 00:34:10.500 Pacific Division: Okay, so we started or I have my personnel start tracking because we all suspected i've talked to some Members on the board and other other members of the committee. 380 00:34:10.920 --> 00:34:17.490 Pacific Division: That once Venice beach ocean front walk was cleared there, although 211 people were housed. 381 00:34:18.120 --> 00:34:26.670 Pacific Division: There were some persons in the population that did not want to be house and migrated eastward and ended up in the special forsman and cleaning zone, so we are. 382 00:34:26.940 --> 00:34:35.070 Pacific Division: You know we've communicated with St joseph's Center they believe the same thing that some follow on a chemist home effort needs to occur in a special enforcement cleanings, though. 383 00:34:35.910 --> 00:34:50.340 Pacific Division: So what we have done is since i've got this over time allocation every day i've been hired been able to hire two officers who have been assigned exclusively to this special forces and clean zone for eight hours a day additionally. 384 00:34:51.420 --> 00:35:01.440 Pacific Division: We want to thank CD 11 for returning to weekly comprehensive cleanups women, especially of course my cleaning zone, making a huge impact in that Community and we are dedicating our. 385 00:35:02.520 --> 00:35:12.540 Pacific Division: weekly contingent at one supervisor and four officers and I always want our senior lead officers, because they know your neighborhoods the best to be on those details and give them the property to be there. 386 00:35:13.320 --> 00:35:22.950 Pacific Division: So stats for the abh section and that's utilizing the same time period may 27 through August 7 compared to. 387 00:35:23.610 --> 00:35:34.050 Pacific Division: Similar timeframe August 8 through October 18 so we're going to 74 days, no change there are zero homicides in both time periods rates are down 100%. 388 00:35:34.650 --> 00:35:53.460 Pacific Division: aws are up 75% in the special form spring cleaning some numbers are not as big as oceanfront walk we're looking at eight verses 14 robberies are at 50% two verses three so overall violent crime in the special horseman cleaning zone is up 55%. 389 00:35:54.720 --> 00:35:57.810 Pacific Division: Transit related violent crime is up 33%. 390 00:35:58.890 --> 00:36:07.830 Pacific Division: So i'm glad to say that property crimes are still are somewhat down so burglaries and down 25% GTS are down 44%. 391 00:36:08.730 --> 00:36:25.020 Pacific Division: Via from these are down burglary that's burgers for motor vehicles are down 42% faster down 15% overall property crimes that 33% However, we are concerned about the increase in violent crime since people were relocated from ocean front walk. 392 00:36:27.900 --> 00:36:39.210 Pacific Division: Okay, and I will continue to support in overtime detail minimum eight hours a day of two additional officers and they will be tasked with conducting foot beats in multiple areas within that sexy. 393 00:36:39.630 --> 00:36:47.580 Pacific Division: Right now they're concentrating on third and rows and then and their support of sanitation his efforts within the special horseman Queens. 394 00:36:48.630 --> 00:36:55.800 Pacific Division: And finally, what I did want to mention is, I know the communities that we're that we are Pacific officers were involved in another officer involved shooting. 395 00:36:56.250 --> 00:37:02.880 Pacific Division: That occurred last Wednesday and I got the news when I was just about to step on a plane for Washington DC on October 13. 396 00:37:03.840 --> 00:37:16.170 Pacific Division: So, although we cannot discuss the circumstances of this category, the use of force a thorough investigation is being conducted that the department will release a video and discuss the preliminary findings of that investigation. 397 00:37:16.590 --> 00:37:27.570 Pacific Division: No later than 45 days from the incident and like I have done in the past and full transparency, I will notify the community wants that video is available online, so you can view it. 398 00:37:28.170 --> 00:37:36.180 Pacific Division: And if anybody has any questions or concerns related to that shooting please contact me directly i'm you know i'm always. 399 00:37:38.040 --> 00:37:44.730 Pacific Division: I believe in transparency with the Community and and will be able to discuss as much as I can. 400 00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:54.540 Pacific Division: With you I can't talk about the specific details, because this thorough investigation typically takes between six and eight months when we make our. 401 00:37:55.230 --> 00:38:07.800 Pacific Division: When our force investigation division completes the investigation makes a presentation to us and we make recommendations as to where the officers in policy and where their tactics sound. 402 00:38:12.600 --> 00:38:24.510 Pacific Division: Okay, so, although I can't talk about the circumstances of this one thing that I did want to mention was that the police department has no desire and should not be the primary. 403 00:38:25.560 --> 00:38:28.950 Pacific Division: response to mental illness, as a community, we are missing. 404 00:38:29.550 --> 00:38:36.690 Pacific Division: tremendous opportunities in interacting people were experiencing mental illness and providing them treatment before they get to this level of crisis. 405 00:38:37.110 --> 00:38:46.620 Pacific Division: And what I will, the only thing I will say it is that this shooting that occurred last week in my mind was preventable and we need to do better, as a community and addressing those concerns. 406 00:38:47.040 --> 00:38:56.370 Pacific Division: circumstances were very similar to the officer involved shooting that occurred, about two months ago, in which mental illness was a factor, and I think we as a Community. 407 00:38:56.790 --> 00:39:09.600 Pacific Division: missed several opportunities when they could have been entered when department mental health or other agencies could have intervened and prevented something like this happening so pending any questions from the board. 408 00:39:10.650 --> 00:39:11.910 Pacific Division: or also contrast. 409 00:39:11.940 --> 00:39:20.100 james murez: Though so did was was it was there, another this is James mirrors i'm president of the neighborhood Council normally we don't take questions on. 410 00:39:20.100 --> 00:39:23.400 james murez: presentations and yours was a presentation we don't want to open the floor for that. 411 00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:30.060 james murez: I just have one very quick question i'm going to break that rule I didn't get your name when we started your presentation. 412 00:39:31.590 --> 00:39:43.290 Pacific Division: Oh i'm sorry I apologize yeah so and I don't see us up on video either Captain Steve Eric on the area commanding officer Pacific area, and I am joined by your senior lead officer movie control this. 413 00:39:43.620 --> 00:39:48.000 james murez: And did she also want to give any sort of reporter, where we focused on. 414 00:39:51.750 --> 00:39:53.430 Pacific Division: I know she has she has good sir. 415 00:39:53.940 --> 00:39:59.190 james murez: Okay, and thank you very much for coming, and if the Board has questions. 416 00:39:59.700 --> 00:40:08.850 james murez: In the future let's let's send those in so we can get them to them by email ahead of the meeting, and they can respond to whatever kinds of Community questions we have. 417 00:40:09.390 --> 00:40:23.760 james murez: We don't want to do it open in the meeting during the meeting because it just it it ends up taking up a whole lot of time and it's not really efficient if anybody's they may not have the answers for us and all sorts of other issues, so thank you, having said that. 418 00:40:25.350 --> 00:40:26.910 jim robb: Thank you for your help on ocean front. 419 00:40:27.990 --> 00:40:28.410 Pacific Division: Okay. 420 00:40:30.570 --> 00:40:32.550 james murez: let's move on now you. 421 00:40:33.150 --> 00:40:39.420 Daffodil Tyminski: Do normally we'd go reading the government ports, but we also have led wp waiting on five see. 422 00:40:40.440 --> 00:40:42.060 Daffodil Tyminski: And it might be. 423 00:40:42.570 --> 00:40:43.620 james murez: Okay, we also. 424 00:40:44.220 --> 00:40:52.440 james murez: Turn ya know we can do that, we have a couple of government reports i'm going to be giving government reports for a few of them because they sent us information and couldn't make the meeting tonight. 425 00:40:52.650 --> 00:41:02.880 james murez: So why don't we go ahead and do that devil, I think that that would be a nice thing let's take five see out of order and and we'll come back to government reports in a minute government and committee reports in just one minute. 426 00:41:03.840 --> 00:41:06.180 james murez: Okay, you want to go ahead and figure out who to promote. 427 00:41:06.210 --> 00:41:09.090 Daffodil Tyminski: And yes, and I i'm trying to do it here. 428 00:41:09.150 --> 00:41:10.020 james murez: They may also have. 429 00:41:10.740 --> 00:41:15.570 james murez: Here, let me see if I can help, but I know. 430 00:41:15.810 --> 00:41:16.740 That works. 431 00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:18.780 james murez: So somebody here. 432 00:41:19.110 --> 00:41:21.720 Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, at your mercado and company. 433 00:41:26.070 --> 00:41:28.710 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: Good afternoon to everybody can you guys hear me clearly. 434 00:41:29.010 --> 00:41:30.690 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: Yes, awesome. 435 00:41:31.170 --> 00:41:34.110 james murez: I mean, if you want to share, if you want to share your screen, you know how to do that. 436 00:41:34.470 --> 00:41:35.190 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: I will. 437 00:41:36.540 --> 00:41:47.670 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: like to share that and I think share screen i'm going to keep it as a just a regular presentation, because sometimes he gives an error, so let me know if you can see it hopefully he's been enough. 438 00:41:48.570 --> 00:41:49.440 james murez: Yes, that's great. 439 00:41:49.890 --> 00:42:01.980 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: awesome alright well i'll just started I think Deborah Han from our Community affairs team is on the phone, so I would like to introduce her and she would be open to questions and I understand you may not. 440 00:42:02.070 --> 00:42:08.850 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: want to take them, but will be free, if needed, to stay behind we are more than welcome to stay behind and answer any questions. 441 00:42:09.540 --> 00:42:19.380 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: But without any further ado, my name is Edgar medical I am the Western district engineer responsible for all the area West or Western in South omaha and all the way to the beach areas. 442 00:42:19.980 --> 00:42:26.910 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: And i'm here to present to you guys are speedway or Christmas and ductile aren't water main or waterpipe replacement project. 443 00:42:30.330 --> 00:42:33.090 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: The project is looking in your or your phone and walk and. 444 00:42:34.500 --> 00:42:43.920 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: Pacific, and this is the approximate location within city 11 now want to talk a little bit about the agenda what i'm going to cover, which is the history of this project. 445 00:42:44.340 --> 00:42:56.190 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: Some of the scope of what we're going to be doing some scheduling facing so considerations that we're going to keep in mind as we interact with the Community and plan to be us this intrusive and. 446 00:42:57.210 --> 00:43:06.540 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: disruptive to your constituents and the Community overall and again we'll open up to any other kind of questions and answers. 447 00:43:08.340 --> 00:43:13.770 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: With that in mind, the project is limits are from. 448 00:43:16.830 --> 00:43:27.630 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: i'm sorry 17th avenue on the South to navy on the North, we are also doing a few of the side streets, not all of them some of the pipe is actually very new without. 449 00:43:28.920 --> 00:43:39.840 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: Without leaks, so we taking it on based on the age, the leads and the reading level factor which we have a program that calculates the highly likelihood of failure. 450 00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:56.550 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: Most of our pipes last between 100 to 120 years and knowing that most of the pipes in this area are already well over 100 years as you guys can see I put in the age of the of Mosul pies 1081 3122 and also the price that we're targeting and replacing. 451 00:43:59.280 --> 00:44:05.460 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: Now, as I mentioned the prayer will be go actually all the way to burn are at the very end of speedway. 452 00:44:06.630 --> 00:44:15.090 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: The pro would also cover the streets, such as rose Dudley paloma and they're more like walkways then streets but they're considered street says destination by the city. 453 00:44:16.230 --> 00:44:19.830 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: We will replace a total of 10,500 linear feudal pipe. 454 00:44:21.150 --> 00:44:32.970 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: ranging have to six and eight inch with your materials, including cover cast iron and are resistant to iron pipe This project was actually selected about two years ago, three years ago to be. 455 00:44:33.780 --> 00:44:45.930 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: Implementing the new earth resistant to arm pipe that has been used in Japan, for many, many years and we're trying to use it on areas that are subjected to liquefaction or earthquake so near earthquake zones. 456 00:44:47.460 --> 00:44:55.710 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: In this probably was selected for that pilot project, this is actually the very last of the projects that will be installing as part of the pilot project and we're now. 457 00:44:56.070 --> 00:45:05.790 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: Moving to the face to where we're going to implement this type of pipe material throughout the city and will be issuing a contract, so it was pretty wide successful implementation. 458 00:45:08.160 --> 00:45:13.950 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: How do we plan to this project, and now that we're here hot what What have we done so over the last year. 459 00:45:14.340 --> 00:45:26.130 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: I actually have been meeting with the console office to notify them about this project, and we had several meetings with them to try to target and find out what are the main things that the Community will be impacted and how we can resolve them. 460 00:45:27.480 --> 00:45:30.900 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: And we also were asked by the consultant office. 461 00:45:32.370 --> 00:45:36.660 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: Jove Thompson to look into partnering with other agencies to see, we can. 462 00:45:37.770 --> 00:45:47.130 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: do better for the Community in in doing so far, the part we met with the fire department, the fire department brought concerns as far as having accessibility to put out fires with. 463 00:45:47.610 --> 00:45:55.140 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: With lot of homeless and comments and having their hands go up and fire and they have requested to add an additional fire fire hydrants. 464 00:45:55.440 --> 00:46:05.130 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: For fire hydrants to the era that will be placed on ocean from was not on as you guys may be aware of all the fire hydrants are on speedway as our main line only. 465 00:46:05.970 --> 00:46:14.370 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: traverses speedway doesn't go into ocean from walk only a four locations and those are the four keys will fire department will like those fire hydrants. 466 00:46:15.090 --> 00:46:24.180 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: we're cleaning with the console office in the fire department to facilitate the cost for fire hydrants in the group he has volunteer ready to upgrade the pipe a no cost to add those. 467 00:46:25.650 --> 00:46:26.610 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: Those fire hydrants. 468 00:46:27.840 --> 00:46:35.760 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: In addition, we also partner with the Bureau of engineering in relocating some of the fire hydrants there in the middle of some of the walkways or street meaning to ocean from walk. 469 00:46:36.090 --> 00:46:43.320 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: And we have redesigned some of the findings to be relocated out of the way of those ballers and and possible access for the fire department. 470 00:46:44.130 --> 00:47:01.620 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: i'm In addition we brought this project to bureau of street services and we try to plan it and coordinate D paving on speedway also have an understanding that may be paving on their five year plan, some of the other additional streets, the timing is not. 471 00:47:02.970 --> 00:47:09.390 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: Specific to me and I don't control that plant, but I know that we are timeless so that we could come in first and they come in, after us. 472 00:47:10.020 --> 00:47:17.850 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: My understanding is they are within two fiscal years of our project and knowing that a project is approximately a year and a half long more or less. 473 00:47:18.360 --> 00:47:26.940 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: They will be kind of time, I would like to say perfectly, but hopefully right after us and that's some of the planning and coordination, we did with. 474 00:47:27.480 --> 00:47:41.460 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: With some of the other agencies in the console office so talking about the project, and this is different than what you guys may have seen, and this is a new news as of this morning we had a meeting with our construction Supervisor to discuss the phasing. 475 00:47:42.600 --> 00:47:46.200 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: In some of the flyers that you may have seen us of yesterday. 476 00:47:47.760 --> 00:47:59.340 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: Put in the blue area as a phase one well, we recently discuss it with a superintendent would like to tackle phase one as they believe that may be able to expedite a move faster through those phases. 477 00:48:00.690 --> 00:48:08.550 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: They they are concerned, obviously with the walkway restrictions are being narrow and having accommodations from the console office and requested we add. 478 00:48:08.940 --> 00:48:17.700 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: You know about half a month, more to the timetable, so you might have seen previously as one year and three months, or when you're in two months I don't remember exactly. 479 00:48:18.420 --> 00:48:20.220 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: But that will be kind of the duration of that. 480 00:48:20.790 --> 00:48:28.410 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: Our proposed construction work hours are eight to four but we're more than willing to partner with a Community if they will allow us to have extended hours to get out of the way. 481 00:48:28.800 --> 00:48:37.050 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: As soon as possible, which you know, will reduce the amount of time that were out there in any one of the given streets as a scenario and talking to. 482 00:48:37.470 --> 00:48:48.300 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: The event has been business improvement Eleni and in the console office, we had a very successful project with sunset Plaza which has one way in one way out. 483 00:48:48.900 --> 00:48:56.850 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: To me that's even more difficult, as does their only way to enter and the only way to exit the console office was very happy and supportive. 484 00:48:57.420 --> 00:49:01.860 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: We did something that we typically don't do we kept the console office Community grassroots. 485 00:49:02.610 --> 00:49:09.450 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: On a mailing list, where we met them every every other week of the status of our projects, so if we're doing construction that week and rose. 486 00:49:09.870 --> 00:49:21.270 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: And we're planning to be in two weeks and barely are melling to the to the email group will be the starting on two weeks from today Dolly will be in construction so make a wrench. 487 00:49:21.840 --> 00:49:29.460 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: arrangements to communicate with our superintendent and construction supervisor if there's any kind of accommodations that we might we might need to do. 488 00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:46.020 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: accommodations that we're looking forward to our maybe resins with disabilities, they may need to have access, especially going to and from doctor appointments in or deliveries of special specialized equipment let's just say you have a piano needs to use a crane and. 489 00:49:46.800 --> 00:49:48.510 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: You need to have access to it, and maybe. 490 00:49:48.570 --> 00:50:02.850 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: coordinate something like that, with us um any other kind of arrangement is we'll take it on consideration and we'll try to again be as is less disruptive as possible The other thing that was brought up by the console off is and the Venice beach improvement. 491 00:50:04.350 --> 00:50:17.160 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: district was work on Saturdays and summers, how do we address that in we pretty much told the told him that we will not work on Saturdays to disrupt any businesses or access to the beach. 492 00:50:18.060 --> 00:50:29.520 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: Unless there's an emergency, as you guys know the puppies very old and I cannot promise that it will or will not break if he does break, we will need to be there, or whatever hours of the night evenings or weekends, or even holidays if needed. 493 00:50:30.600 --> 00:50:37.800 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: The other thing is, we cannot leave a place on safe, so if we are at 430 in the pipe breaks as we're trying to make a connection. 494 00:50:38.130 --> 00:50:46.710 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: We need to stay there until all the residents have water and remain with access to to the natural resource or very essential resource. 495 00:50:47.250 --> 00:50:57.210 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: So, again that's so some of the small caveat that I cannot promise you as as we deal with this pipe, as I said, it's very old and sometimes Friday when we make connections. 496 00:50:58.680 --> 00:51:00.090 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: Close coordination will be. 497 00:51:01.440 --> 00:51:11.730 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: Coordinated also for parking and I think I have let me move on my slides yep and it's like, for example, the roast parking the six or five speedway. 498 00:51:12.390 --> 00:51:19.710 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: blue sky parking Venice and 116 one parking has Those are some of the bigger parkin's where they have access to. 499 00:51:20.580 --> 00:51:32.490 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: Nothing all the residents don't have essential needs to access in and out of their parking and driveways will try to have localized access and i'll go over this a couple of scenarios of traffic control plants and setups. 500 00:51:33.750 --> 00:51:37.830 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: And we'll do our best to allow ingress and egress to to those locations so. 501 00:51:38.340 --> 00:51:44.970 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: As an example, and I do have a full set of plans traffic control plans if you were approved by la do TV you guys would like to see him. 502 00:51:45.450 --> 00:51:59.640 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: But as an example which is nice little color coding if we are working on rose avenue in the zone that is red and typically we we Cone off about half of the block to allow access for our vehicles are back. 503 00:52:00.930 --> 00:52:10.050 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: Excuse me i've been talking all day are back home in our and our workers to save to work in there, we will allow traffic to enter into. 504 00:52:11.580 --> 00:52:30.360 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: into the parking lot of rows and I were coming out do have to take speedway and we'll we'll have floggers and we we assess the traffic impacts as needed, we do have green Russian ship with led ot and maybe will deploy if needed within a week or so. 505 00:52:31.500 --> 00:52:49.320 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: To get them out of there and we're trying to coordinate that in events, just to have it as attempt to tentative options, if needed, to direct traffic typically their own flag traffic, the only direct that if is falling behind so, for example, if if there's a backup on on. 506 00:52:51.270 --> 00:52:59.490 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: On Pacific on two rows they made direct attracted to continue straight they don't they don't flag, this is just a misconception. 507 00:53:00.240 --> 00:53:09.390 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: How about when we're working on actually speedway and we're constructing across the way well here's One example will take half will take a block on speedway. 508 00:53:10.110 --> 00:53:18.180 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: For example, ozone two rows and will go up to approximately half of the street do a construction and then flip it on a later time. 509 00:53:18.570 --> 00:53:26.790 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: thereby allowing traffic with floggers to go in and out of the parking lot and when they get out continue through rose or exit and. 510 00:53:27.390 --> 00:53:34.290 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: Through speedway going southbound arm and again we'll try to utilize the progress to safely died, they were the traffic. 511 00:53:35.220 --> 00:53:45.480 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: Some of the other things that community's concern, obviously, especially dealing with tight areas like say the way we handle sunset is well, what about the biggest concerns emergency fire axes. 512 00:53:47.790 --> 00:53:50.430 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: lapd in emergency services. 513 00:53:52.080 --> 00:53:58.470 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: As I mentioned earlier, we are coordinating this project with the fire department they're well aware of it, but one of our protocols, as we. 514 00:53:58.890 --> 00:54:04.380 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: initiate our construction is to notify the local fire department of our presence and construction activities. 515 00:54:05.220 --> 00:54:08.280 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: We typically give them the phasing and we'll we'll let them know. 516 00:54:09.090 --> 00:54:20.850 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: same thing with the fire department to biggie i'm sorry the police department usually do a Community meeting like this there'll be also notify but we we send them a notification to be working on there and typically were there during the day. 517 00:54:22.140 --> 00:54:35.040 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: The emt sometimes were actually the first ones to know and as an example and sunset Plaza there was a fire in the nearby home and when we saw smoke we start plating and getting ready for the part of departments is shocked. 518 00:54:36.120 --> 00:54:37.590 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: If is something else, like. 519 00:54:38.700 --> 00:54:50.190 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: another type of emergency will be able to play with 10 minutes and have it ready, but like I said the beautiful thing about your area is you have access to multiple sites if we're blocking one block. 520 00:54:50.580 --> 00:55:06.030 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: Half of the block should be open and be able to go around and, if need be, will stop everything we're doing to plate and accommodate the emergency axes when it comes down to mail and delivery of Amazon or any kind of ups deliveries. 521 00:55:07.140 --> 00:55:14.820 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: We typically again you guys have multiple ways of having them deliver the mail, my understanding is the mail comes in, typically in the afternoons. 522 00:55:15.210 --> 00:55:24.300 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: And so, as we coin it with the Postmaster usually to the console office they get a notification that we have work on side, and they are able to accommodate to either. 523 00:55:25.740 --> 00:55:32.760 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: Come on the afternoon hours or in the very morning hours before we start construction same thing with trash pickups. 524 00:55:33.240 --> 00:55:43.170 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: They are usually notify and the trash will be either pick up in the morning or afternoon and either your story service your sanitation will notify you guys or just allows the time to coordinate that. 525 00:55:44.400 --> 00:55:55.560 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: I have received calls the my trash was not pick up we usually tend to Where would you guys contact the local supervisor for for the trash pickup and we'll remind them about the. 526 00:55:56.640 --> 00:55:58.830 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: about the missing trash pickup. 527 00:55:59.880 --> 00:56:00.480 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: um. 528 00:56:01.530 --> 00:56:09.840 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: One of the biggest thing obviously that I mentioned earlier, is a band notifications usually with projects, they are this disrupted and this large. 529 00:56:10.500 --> 00:56:20.130 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: I like I prison like to set up with my stuff more advanced warning notifications, not just give you one flyer that says i'm going to be working out here for a year. 530 00:56:20.580 --> 00:56:29.460 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: and good luck for your now what street i'm working on, but maybe on a bike weekly basis or monthly basis, depending on how how fast or slow we moved this this beach. 531 00:56:30.180 --> 00:56:40.800 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: areas are typically a challenge to to really identify how fast or how slow, we can move depending on traffic, the type of soil typically is very sending in the worst one is, what do you mean comfortable groundwater. 532 00:56:42.240 --> 00:56:54.450 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: So we have a rough idea of what it will take, but as we deal with those challenges will try to figure out how we're moving with our schedule and, obviously, last but not least is. 533 00:56:55.590 --> 00:56:59.940 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: partnering with the Community, you know we like to hear from you guys any kind of. 534 00:57:01.620 --> 00:57:11.430 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: Any kind of needs for coordinating maybe even an event, and you know if there's there's some kind of event in the beach and we may need to point out for a date will be. 535 00:57:12.210 --> 00:57:21.210 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: Highly considerable or i'm able to take in those items into consideration and, last but not least, this presentation will be sent to you guys. 536 00:57:22.170 --> 00:57:30.390 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: By Deborah on and like I said it was revised about five minutes ago, he has our contact information, I am in charge of the area. 537 00:57:30.810 --> 00:57:37.710 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: Jana Chavez is my engineering charge of our mainline program and Oscar Rodriguez is our field engineer in charge of. 538 00:57:38.100 --> 00:57:46.950 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: overseeing the permit application, which we have the traffic control planet program and and ensuring that our staff has equipment materials on hand. 539 00:57:47.550 --> 00:58:03.960 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: The construction supervisor usually we we divulge that information on the notification that it gets passed to the residents on on a two week notice, as we may have that may be a high likelihood that you may be swap we're going through a a. 540 00:58:05.340 --> 00:58:08.280 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: A time where a lot of people are getting promoted transfer retiring that. 541 00:58:09.480 --> 00:58:14.280 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: i've been able to incomparably give you that information within the next two weeks, but I will also be. 542 00:58:14.670 --> 00:58:24.330 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: a pretty good resource to make those some kind of those kinds of arrangements and then you guys know Deborah Han our public relationship and Kareem mccargo who is our intergovernmental affairs. 543 00:58:24.720 --> 00:58:40.800 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: liaison with the console office, and with that pretty much my next light is questions if there's any or feel free to send me an email and i'll be reaching i'll be reaching to you guys in the shore matter um or shortly thereafter. 544 00:58:41.400 --> 00:58:48.480 james murez: Thank you Eckert because it's a presentation we're on a fairly tight schedule, tonight we have a lot of items on our agenda, why don't we. 545 00:58:49.350 --> 00:58:58.950 james murez: Have you take questions at some point in time in the future, perhaps by email and and would you be open to coming back if we had follow up questions at some point in time for a brief. 546 00:59:00.300 --> 00:59:06.000 james murez: brief questions and answers, perhaps in a committee, like in our ocean part walk committee where there you know people are very involved in that. 547 00:59:06.300 --> 00:59:14.940 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: So absolutely if you do have I heard you guys have different committees that deal with different items so i'll be more than happy to join you you guys just committee. 548 00:59:15.360 --> 00:59:24.210 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: And partner to keep you guys up to speed on what we are working on and how how to better partner again our biggest interest if we can partner with the Community to extend ours. 549 00:59:24.540 --> 00:59:37.440 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: We have a set hours on the permit, but like I said in sunset Plaza we met with the Community and we said, if you guys allow us to keep going and the console office in the Community is they agreed to extend hours, we were able to complete that project ahead of schedule. 550 00:59:37.800 --> 00:59:50.340 james murez: That sounds great alright, so we have several committees and what we'll do is we'll we'll hook them up with you, if you could send over your your PowerPoint to us, so we can have that posted along with our minutes of the meeting that would be great. 551 00:59:51.600 --> 00:59:54.210 jim robb: Can I tell him that my ocean frets on the next day. 552 00:59:54.660 --> 00:59:56.640 james murez: Jim we're not taking we're not taking questions. 553 00:59:56.640 --> 00:59:58.290 jim robb: Jeff was a question, I just wanted to see. 554 00:59:58.830 --> 01:00:00.840 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: him Jim cemetery the appointment. 555 01:00:01.230 --> 01:00:03.060 james murez: we're not going there Jim Thank you. 556 01:00:04.500 --> 01:00:09.150 james murez: I opened it up for you, I got open up for everybody, all right let's go back to thank you you're very much. 557 01:00:09.330 --> 01:00:10.650 LADWP - Edgar Mercado - Moderator: Welcome guys. 558 01:00:10.920 --> 01:00:11.910 Andrea Boccaletti: Thank you very much, sir. 559 01:00:13.170 --> 01:00:13.650 Andrea Boccaletti: i'm. 560 01:00:13.890 --> 01:00:14.340 james murez: Okay. 561 01:00:14.370 --> 01:00:19.740 james murez: Do we have a representative here tonight from councilman bonbons office. 562 01:00:20.970 --> 01:00:21.930 james murez: daffodil are you there. 563 01:00:22.590 --> 01:00:26.850 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm here, and I believe they emailed us just before the meeting, saying they would not be able. 564 01:00:26.850 --> 01:00:31.380 james murez: To correct actually let's see i'm sharing and I believe. 565 01:00:32.520 --> 01:00:33.660 james murez: Let me see where. 566 01:00:33.870 --> 01:00:36.120 Daffodil Tyminski: We can either share or read the email they sent. 567 01:00:36.210 --> 01:00:38.250 james murez: Oh, I have, I have several of this. 568 01:00:39.720 --> 01:00:44.790 melissadiner: i'm already emailed it to the board to and see if I can post it if you want to. 569 01:00:44.850 --> 01:00:49.890 james murez: Just yeah Thank you here's her report i'm not going to read it. 570 01:00:49.980 --> 01:00:51.630 james murez: i'm just going to quickly scroll through it. 571 01:00:51.660 --> 01:00:53.220 james murez: Anybody that wants to see it it's a. 572 01:00:54.480 --> 01:01:05.310 james murez: Is the time on the video, and there is her entire report it's also been posted to the dnc website under tonight's meeting as a supporting document it says CD 11. 573 01:01:06.750 --> 01:01:17.820 james murez: update the URL is up here so having gone through hers who's the next one on the list hed Lu that was another one did Ted lose opposite end up showing up. 574 01:01:18.990 --> 01:01:22.590 Daffodil Tyminski: um I do not see them on here okay. 575 01:01:22.650 --> 01:01:25.350 Daffodil Tyminski: So what else is here, raise your hand but I don't see. 576 01:01:25.710 --> 01:01:36.930 james murez: Your here was the the email I got this evening at that I guess about four o'clock from Ted lose office everybody's invited to meet with Congressman Lou on at this meeting. 577 01:01:37.620 --> 01:01:46.500 james murez: That will be a looks like a Facebook meeting if anybody wants to copies information again it's it at 659 on the video. 578 01:01:49.080 --> 01:01:58.260 james murez: that'll be available let's move on Senator Ben Alan I believe the first time in a long time, there is a person here. 579 01:01:58.830 --> 01:02:05.790 Daffodil Tyminski: So Senator Allen has a new representative it's RAD new ruthie and he is I think that's correct right. 580 01:02:06.000 --> 01:02:08.970 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah he is here, I will promote him yeah. 581 01:02:09.240 --> 01:02:09.990 james murez: yeah great. 582 01:02:15.480 --> 01:02:17.190 Daffodil Tyminski: In red, you should be okay to go. 583 01:02:21.840 --> 01:02:23.130 Rad Nowroozi: All right, hi everyone. 584 01:02:24.090 --> 01:02:25.290 james murez: hi good evening. 585 01:02:25.590 --> 01:02:27.870 Rad Nowroozi: Perfect all right yeah hi my name is RAD. 586 01:02:27.930 --> 01:02:31.320 Rad Nowroozi: I am the newest addition to Center been alan's team. 587 01:02:31.680 --> 01:02:41.610 Rad Nowroozi: I represent the West side region of La county of his district which, which includes a bunch of the upper coast, not including the south bay. 588 01:02:42.300 --> 01:02:50.250 Rad Nowroozi: So i'm happy to be here, I realized that lily is still part of the team and she's you know more than happy to help out. 589 01:02:50.670 --> 01:03:02.760 Rad Nowroozi: But we also have Davis Han so there's there's a few people few field REPS who are going to be working on Venice issues and representing all of you so i'm here, I thought I changed my name of my. 590 01:03:03.960 --> 01:03:10.140 Rad Nowroozi: i'm trying to that, right now, or maybe I can't I was going to put my email in my name, so you could easily. 591 01:03:10.410 --> 01:03:19.290 Rad Nowroozi: email me if you would like, but I don't have a report i'm just here to say hi and I was just listening to the meeting and i'm going to continue listening, just so I have an idea of who know who all. 592 01:03:19.650 --> 01:03:30.930 Rad Nowroozi: of you are and and and i'm looking forward to speaking to a lot of you in the future, so my email is ra di.so by my first name dot last name it's it's. 593 01:03:31.350 --> 01:03:41.490 Rad Nowroozi: You know rin on the screen at St n.ca dot govt so SEM for senate CA for California God and. 594 01:03:42.150 --> 01:03:52.260 Rad Nowroozi: I can you know I can share my email, I think, James has my email because we just corresponded and he'll be able to share my email with the rest of you in the near future, but i'm you know i'm happy to be here i'm. 595 01:03:52.710 --> 01:04:07.530 Rad Nowroozi: happy to be here as a resource, I know, James you asked for Center Allen to to join us in the future and I already sent that to our scheduler and we're going to make that happen, so thank you for that I guess yeah i'm just here to say hi and and and. 596 01:04:07.560 --> 01:04:08.700 Rad Nowroozi: Thank you for working with you. 597 01:04:09.000 --> 01:04:11.130 james murez: Thank you very much welcome to the Community. 598 01:04:12.210 --> 01:04:15.000 james murez: um let me go back to our agenda. 599 01:04:16.320 --> 01:04:18.390 james murez: yeah and who else do we have. 600 01:04:19.980 --> 01:04:21.810 james murez: Is anybody here from autumn burke's office. 601 01:04:23.340 --> 01:04:25.080 Daffodil Tyminski: I don't think so. 602 01:04:25.740 --> 01:04:28.320 Daffodil Tyminski: I think they also email, saying they weren't attending but if. 603 01:04:28.320 --> 01:04:29.910 Daffodil Tyminski: Someone is here, raise your hand. 604 01:04:30.090 --> 01:04:32.220 james murez: I didn't see that email, but it could have come in late. 605 01:04:33.960 --> 01:04:48.840 james murez: let's go to our supervisor and here was her report it has also been posted on the website for anybody that wants to see it i'm going to scroll through it slowly, so people can see it in the video. 606 01:04:50.910 --> 01:04:53.250 Daffodil Tyminski: And we're not expecting anyone from our office. 607 01:04:53.370 --> 01:04:57.480 james murez: No, not at all, he said he couldn't make in sent this over in place. 608 01:05:02.070 --> 01:05:03.720 And I believe that was the end of it. 609 01:05:06.240 --> 01:05:16.530 james murez: Okay let's go back to our agenda, who else did we have um anybody here from the mayor's office I don't believe we have anybody from the mayor's office. 610 01:05:16.800 --> 01:05:17.400 Daffodil Tyminski: We do not. 611 01:05:18.210 --> 01:05:19.650 james murez: Is Freddie here this evening. 612 01:05:20.100 --> 01:05:21.120 Daffodil Tyminski: fatty is not here. 613 01:05:21.780 --> 01:05:23.820 james murez: Okay um. 614 01:05:24.930 --> 01:05:30.360 james murez: Well, everybody saw that already I already mentioned that there's that able training that needs to be done. 615 01:05:31.740 --> 01:05:41.550 james murez: By side regional out loud Councils, so the regional alliance Councils is me and I have no particular presentation we have several rack items on the agenda and. 616 01:05:42.660 --> 01:05:45.960 james murez: I believe it was December. 617 01:05:48.810 --> 01:05:54.870 james murez: guess scone is coming to rack is has been scheduled, so if anybody's interested in hearing him speak. 618 01:05:55.320 --> 01:06:07.230 james murez: That would be an interesting meeting it usually falls on the Monday before the dnc board me I think it's the third Monday of the month i'm haven, is not here now let's go to committee reports. 619 01:06:09.330 --> 01:06:13.020 james murez: Andre do you have anything from the budget advocate I suspect not. 620 01:06:14.430 --> 01:06:15.540 Andrea Boccaletti: i'll save it for the report. 621 01:06:16.860 --> 01:06:19.920 james murez: Okay, see my you got two minutes go. 622 01:06:29.010 --> 01:06:30.090 james murez: see my are you with us. 623 01:06:32.490 --> 01:06:33.120 james murez: she's still here. 624 01:06:36.690 --> 01:06:37.680 Sima Kostovetsky: Can you hear me now. 625 01:06:37.740 --> 01:06:39.090 james murez: yeah now we can hear you Thank you. 626 01:06:40.290 --> 01:06:44.430 Sima Kostovetsky: Okay um TIM Would you mind coming back to me because I want to share my screen. 627 01:06:45.360 --> 01:06:45.810 james murez: Okay well. 628 01:06:45.930 --> 01:06:47.040 Sima Kostovetsky: That you went to community. 629 01:06:47.100 --> 01:06:47.580 Sima Kostovetsky: we're going to. 630 01:06:47.610 --> 01:06:55.560 james murez: Go back to you anybody can share their screen, just when you're ready to share to share it will stop my share i'm Isabelle we want to promote you. 631 01:06:57.480 --> 01:06:58.200 Daffodil Tyminski: can do that. 632 01:06:58.410 --> 01:07:06.000 james murez: Okay, thank you, while we're promoting her public safety, we don't have at this point, Jim rob why don't you give you a report you got two minutes. 633 01:07:09.660 --> 01:07:11.820 james murez: Jim do you have anything you want to report about oceanfront walk. 634 01:07:12.180 --> 01:07:26.550 jim robb: Yes, we're having a meeting on Monday, the 25th of this month, with all the scooter companies la do T is going to be bone in his office is going to be on the meeting we're going to discuss and they sent an email out. 635 01:07:27.750 --> 01:07:40.230 jim robb: Regarding regulating the scooters that are being rented on the boardwalk that go 40 to 60 miles an hour and Porsche theaters and six Cedars and everything else down there. 636 01:07:41.580 --> 01:07:54.000 jim robb: I don't know how we're going to enforce it, but basically the email, saying that the vendors have to release the scooter 500 feet from the boardwalk which would be almost two Pacific. 637 01:07:55.860 --> 01:08:05.070 jim robb: And so, basically we're reaching out, I have the Santa Monica transportation coordinator for their scooters is going to be on the call. 638 01:08:05.730 --> 01:08:15.930 jim robb: We have a new scooter company called Vo which you guys have probably seen they are technically not allowed in Venice at the moment they are going to be on the call. 639 01:08:16.950 --> 01:08:19.590 jim robb: la do T the pilot programs over. 640 01:08:20.910 --> 01:08:29.580 jim robb: Now we have two new scooter companies that are authorized basically they're only allowed 100 150 per scooter company. 641 01:08:31.080 --> 01:08:42.360 jim robb: Trying to coordinate with Robert thibodeau and any other committees that want to be involved because it's bigger than the ocean front walk where they're going, but the main problem is. 642 01:08:43.200 --> 01:08:53.070 jim robb: The bike path in ocean front walk with the unregulated and all of that so big meeting on Monday, hopefully, all the scooter companies are going to. 643 01:08:53.730 --> 01:09:14.010 jim robb: be there and I would like to get as many people also East Venice neighborhood committee is going to attend to talk about the scooters over in their area and that's our main meeting there's no motions on it it's just basically for the La do T and bonus office to talk to us. 644 01:09:14.280 --> 01:09:14.970 james murez: Thank you, Jim. 645 01:09:16.920 --> 01:09:18.300 james murez: Okay, Sam are you ready to go. 646 01:09:21.420 --> 01:09:24.810 james murez: Okay let's come back to see my arbor committee Isabel you ready to go. 647 01:09:25.440 --> 01:09:37.260 Isabelle Duvivier: hi I didn't expect to be promoted i'm so glad i'm not in my pajamas Thank you Jim for promoting me, my name is Isabel GVA i'm a longtime resident and business owner here in Venice. 648 01:09:37.770 --> 01:09:47.490 Isabelle Duvivier: i'm co Chair of the Venice arbor committee in the last two years we've planted over 250 trees in Venice and we do regular tree care in the community. 649 01:09:47.910 --> 01:10:00.420 Isabelle Duvivier: I have a few quick announcements to make in collaboration with our sister organization Vernon Venice, we are doing a tree bird walk on October 30 on the walk street south of poems. 650 01:10:00.780 --> 01:10:19.290 Isabelle Duvivier: We will be meeting at the supernova circle at 9am on Saturday October 30 at the last fancy meeting I requested help with our social media and i'm so happy to report that, thanks to the dnc we found a terrific person to help us, we now have a Facebook page and an instagram account. 651 01:10:20.520 --> 01:10:31.710 Isabelle Duvivier: or a presence and i'm here today to ask for a couple of volunteers, we need a writer we've been asked to do, several publications on our tree planting. 652 01:10:32.100 --> 01:10:40.770 Isabelle Duvivier: and on other tree related items, so if anybody in this zoom would like to volunteer for that that would be terrific. 653 01:10:41.280 --> 01:10:53.010 Isabelle Duvivier: we're also looking for someone to help us with a tree inventory to help us inventory trees that desperately need pruning in the last couple months we've seen some terrible pruning jobs. 654 01:10:53.700 --> 01:11:03.540 Isabelle Duvivier: The tire store on Lincoln boulevard to some destroyed their tree and a new business on Main Street it destroyed five of their beautiful trees. 655 01:11:04.200 --> 01:11:16.920 Isabelle Duvivier: So urban forestry at the street services has asked us to produce an inventory of trees that need pruning so we can avoid this tree abuse and, lastly, I want to mention that. 656 01:11:17.820 --> 01:11:34.530 Isabelle Duvivier: The Pan mar golf course running track is being redesigned by the city of La and it's a terrible design bb board member Barry campion will be presenting our design alternative. 657 01:11:35.610 --> 01:11:53.550 Isabelle Duvivier: For rose avenue at Edna on Thursday, you should come to that meeting to see her illustrative alternatives, I can be reached at 310-291-0871 or instagram is verdant Venice group, thank you. 658 01:11:54.150 --> 01:12:00.000 james murez: Thank you very good report as well appreciate it um okay outreach are you ready yes. 659 01:12:00.750 --> 01:12:02.100 james murez: yeah Thank you. 660 01:12:02.340 --> 01:12:03.150 james murez: share your screen. 661 01:12:05.040 --> 01:12:06.660 james murez: The first up short tried giving. 662 01:12:07.740 --> 01:12:08.580 Sima Kostovetsky: Thanks Jim. 663 01:12:08.700 --> 01:12:20.040 Sima Kostovetsky: Okay um when you figure out how to share my screen I don't know why it's not working for me today there with me i'm sorry guys, I thought I was more prepared. 664 01:12:20.610 --> 01:12:21.870 james murez: Here, why don't I. 665 01:12:22.350 --> 01:12:25.980 james murez: Do and you can start sharing when you're ready and you'll just capture the screen, when the time comes. 666 01:12:26.220 --> 01:12:29.070 james murez: parking and Robert are you have anything to share. 667 01:12:30.870 --> 01:12:33.540 robertthibodeau: Yes, not on the screen but. 668 01:12:34.860 --> 01:12:42.300 robertthibodeau: The la triathlon is coming this weekend so Sunday morning, there will be the La triathlon. 669 01:12:42.810 --> 01:12:55.620 robertthibodeau: That means that there will be street closures so yourself will be very difficult, you will likely, if you are living in the Marina strand, and you need to jump over to North Venice, you will be taking the 10 freeway. 670 01:12:57.660 --> 01:13:11.520 robertthibodeau: And the closures are I was originally told between six and 930 when I looked on the website, it was saying, between five and 930 so Pacific will be closed Lincoln will be closed anything north, south will be closed. 671 01:13:12.780 --> 01:13:14.850 robertthibodeau: The race will run from the beach. 672 01:13:15.930 --> 01:13:25.020 robertthibodeau: Where Venice boulevard parking lot hits the beach up East Venice only on East Venice, so you can still use selfishness or excuse me yeah. 673 01:13:26.940 --> 01:13:29.520 robertthibodeau: Whatever the other side of fantasies i'm. 674 01:13:31.320 --> 01:13:35.280 robertthibodeau: northbound minute said yes, so that doesn't make sense um. 675 01:13:37.020 --> 01:13:50.190 robertthibodeau: And so that's from five till 949 939 40 they said, and then also there could be some parking restriction, so if you mark on Venice boulevard on. 676 01:13:50.970 --> 01:14:04.350 robertthibodeau: i'm going to call it self dentists, they were calling each business could do you park on self Venice, you know you might want to check those signs on Saturday and make sure you don't get towed on Saturday night late Sunday morning really. 677 01:14:05.490 --> 01:14:10.290 robertthibodeau: And that's good for parking and transportation for this week, thank you all. 678 01:14:11.130 --> 01:14:17.730 Sima Kostovetsky: Thank you, Robert i'm i'm actually sharing the road closures per Robert report, can you guys see that. 679 01:14:17.820 --> 01:14:23.130 james murez: Yes, thank you, you want to go now and and give you a report we've already heard about the triathlon so you can. 680 01:14:23.220 --> 01:14:30.090 Sima Kostovetsky: write, so I will be posting the street closures on our website after tonight's meeting so that will be up. 681 01:14:31.290 --> 01:14:41.160 Sima Kostovetsky: So thank you, Robert for talking about this, we also posted about this in our e blast so here the street closers for the time being, so that is on Sunday. 682 01:14:41.610 --> 01:14:54.240 Sima Kostovetsky: I was actually told you guys because I spoke with the people directly, who are putting this on just to be safe it's closer to like 10 1030 but it's possible that the road closures can go on. 683 01:14:54.810 --> 01:15:04.860 Sima Kostovetsky: So, but it's mainly East heading out on Venice, so thank you for that, and the other big thing that's going on this weekend is afterburn. 684 01:15:06.330 --> 01:15:26.970 Sima Kostovetsky: And it they're back and it's actually a burning man event that is going on for two days in Venice this weekend at Windward Plaza so in terms of traffic and in terms of more people it is from noon to 10 both days so. 685 01:15:28.890 --> 01:15:39.390 Sima Kostovetsky: Just something to be aware of in terms of when we're Plaza I also wanted to post something up because it's important. 686 01:15:42.120 --> 01:15:43.830 Sima Kostovetsky: Let me go back. 687 01:15:53.910 --> 01:16:06.840 Sima Kostovetsky: My toes and it is put on by our very own Bruno Hernandez, it is a wonderful event taking place on the 31st we will be posting that as well. 688 01:16:07.650 --> 01:16:26.100 Sima Kostovetsky: Mike bonds offices participating, they are sponsoring it, as well as REX Venice beach recreation Center, it is an incredible event, you guys and we're so happy to be a part of it and we're so happy to be a part of bruno's vision, so I just wanted to put that out there. 689 01:16:27.210 --> 01:16:39.030 Sima Kostovetsky: So come come come there's stuff happening all over Venice you guys get involved, be a part of this and we'll talk about the Halloween party at the Pier when the motion comes up, so thank you. 690 01:16:41.340 --> 01:16:54.090 Sima Kostovetsky: i'm sorry one last thing sorry one last thing movies at the Pier this week starts at 7pm movies at the newly refurbished Venice Pier 7pm and this. 691 01:16:54.930 --> 01:17:10.650 Sima Kostovetsky: On Thursday, it is grief and they shot grease in Venice high school for those of you who didn't know that so it's free starts at seven it's a great event and just bring blankets and chairs and bring your family great sing along. 692 01:17:10.680 --> 01:17:11.010 james murez: Thank you. 693 01:17:11.820 --> 01:17:12.720 james murez: Thank you very much. 694 01:17:13.860 --> 01:17:17.400 james murez: Bruno arts Committee, you want to did she steal your thunder it's your turn. 695 01:17:22.320 --> 01:17:23.190 james murez: Bruno are you there. 696 01:17:26.070 --> 01:17:26.730 Sima Kostovetsky: I think I still. 697 01:17:27.090 --> 01:17:31.950 Daffodil Tyminski: hold on Bruno he keeps for some reason, and let me just allow we're going to talk cyber no I. 698 01:17:32.160 --> 01:17:33.840 Daffodil Tyminski: Keep promoting you and you keep getting. 699 01:17:39.570 --> 01:17:39.930 james murez: Okay, look. 700 01:17:40.440 --> 01:17:53.520 james murez: Let me come back to Bruno in a minute a leak, you had something that I forgot to put a couple of the other committees, the neighborhood committee is not listed here, nor is Luke pack leak, do you want to give a quick update on things that are going on and loop back. 701 01:17:56.370 --> 01:17:59.550 Alix: So i'm not me i'm muted sorry about that, let me start again, I just want to give a couple of. 702 01:17:59.550 --> 01:18:16.500 Alix: Things like greater land specially coming from a from Rack for those of you who aren't aware Council file 21 dash 1071 is the coastal equity and environmental justice file from Boston so. 703 01:18:17.580 --> 01:18:18.600 Alix: I urge everyone to to. 704 01:18:18.900 --> 01:18:24.000 james murez: Use pig leak, excuse me, are you going to bring up items that are going to come up on a future agenda. 705 01:18:25.410 --> 01:18:34.440 Alix: um no i'm just bringing up general I mean they could come up on a future agenda people want them to do but i'm sort of bringing sort of general counsel files and land use issues up. 706 01:18:35.670 --> 01:18:36.240 Alix: To. 707 01:18:36.480 --> 01:18:38.550 james murez: To okay i'm just concerned that if it's. 708 01:18:38.550 --> 01:18:46.890 james murez: an item that we may have to hear in the future, we have to be very sensitive about putting anything like that out there, without it being properly posted on the agenda. 709 01:18:48.360 --> 01:18:51.870 Alix: Okay well i'm not editorializing on this i'm just i'm just staying right. 710 01:18:53.190 --> 01:18:56.910 Alix: But i'm assuming that's okay i'm just listening to counsel files there's no. 711 01:18:57.720 --> 01:19:00.120 james murez: No comments on them sorry to interrupt go ahead, please. 712 01:19:00.540 --> 01:19:11.970 Alix: No all good and there's Council file C F 21 dash triple 02 dash 7174, which is about streamlined permitting or housing projects. 713 01:19:13.740 --> 01:19:35.340 Alix: addition additional files that are out there is Council file 14 dash 1635 dash as 10 which is delisting of non compliant properties use the short term Rentals Council file 21 dash oh eight nine o, which is an equitable infrastructure placement Council file 21 002 dash. 714 01:19:37.290 --> 01:19:41.160 Alix: legislation to achieve 100% zero emission vehicle. 715 01:19:42.600 --> 01:19:58.080 Alix: goal in California by 2030 cf 21 0928 water conservation for small businesses and see if 20 1095 vote climate change mitigation state funding for climate change initiative. 716 01:19:59.220 --> 01:20:11.880 Alix: and also to talk about sb nine and sb 10 past sb 10 has to be adopted by each city and is currently supposedly undergoing legal challenges. 717 01:20:12.960 --> 01:20:16.560 Alix: Housing element which some of you may or may not have heard about. 718 01:20:18.480 --> 01:20:32.850 Alix: The website for that if you're interested there can still be comments submitted and there's a three month grace period now it's planning la city.org backslash plans dash policies backslash housing dash element dash update. 719 01:20:33.870 --> 01:20:42.090 Alix: So that's that and what else can I tell you I think that's everything from land use for me. 720 01:20:42.990 --> 01:20:43.770 james murez: Okay, thank you. 721 01:20:44.460 --> 01:20:58.290 Alix: Sorry sorry Jim one more thing yeah also and neighborhood Council sustainability alliance ncs a la and I think i've sent out the resources document on sustainable. 722 01:20:59.040 --> 01:21:14.700 Alix: Guidelines for developers anyone that's interested in, you know moving towards more sustainable policies in Los Angeles, I urge you to take a look over there and to get involved, the document is a working document it's it's quite interesting and quite informative and that's me. 723 01:21:15.180 --> 01:21:25.920 james murez: Thank you in the future, if you could, I think it would make it easier for people to be able to see the links or the items that you're referring to as you give you a report on the screen as a screen share. 724 01:21:26.130 --> 01:21:26.910 james murez: And then we could also. 725 01:21:27.180 --> 01:21:29.490 james murez: Post it, I think that just be helpful for everybody. 726 01:21:29.640 --> 01:21:33.660 Alix: Jim i'll prepare that document that can go into the minutes or the agenda. 727 01:21:34.380 --> 01:21:38.460 james murez: yeah okay great we'll post it as a supplemental as a supporting document that'd be. 728 01:21:38.460 --> 01:21:39.180 Alix: Wonderful yeah. 729 01:21:39.420 --> 01:21:43.320 james murez: Thank you very much um arts Bruno are you online. 730 01:21:44.130 --> 01:21:48.990 Bruno Hernandez: yeah i'm actually online, but uh i'm actually at work, right now, so I just had my hand so so. 731 01:21:50.670 --> 01:21:58.230 Bruno Hernandez: I just did not really prepared to go through all that but uh but I will share something I guess i'll put something up on our website. 732 01:21:58.890 --> 01:22:07.950 Bruno Hernandez: The are the events that we're doing they're not necessarily it would be nc related crusade, and obviously you know we invited and. 733 01:22:08.460 --> 01:22:17.490 Bruno Hernandez: What we'd love to have you know you guys participate and everything like that or us participate, but um but they're just things that I guess we've been planning for a minute with with record park. 734 01:22:17.880 --> 01:22:28.410 Bruno Hernandez: As far as you know, just bringing Community free Community events to to the Venice Ottawa So if you kind of you know, if you want to keep up with the Venice our walls and we are scheduling an arts committee. 735 01:22:29.160 --> 01:22:39.510 Bruno Hernandez: Meeting to get I guess to just have more announcements we just been out so so far back that that we just haven't been able to to get our ducks in order, yet, but, but we will we will real soon it. 736 01:22:39.840 --> 01:22:49.560 Bruno Hernandez: Again, will be promoting and obviously everybody if the Community is invited to the free event it's a you know we have a pumpkin patch face painting free food free to. 737 01:22:51.000 --> 01:22:53.250 Bruno Hernandez: Just a bunch of cool stuff again for the Community. 738 01:22:53.700 --> 01:22:56.880 james murez: That sounds great Thank you Bruno and have a have a good evening there at work. 739 01:22:57.330 --> 01:22:58.920 Bruno Hernandez: yeah appreciate it Thank you yeah. 740 01:22:59.310 --> 01:23:09.210 james murez: Okay um let's see who do we oliver's not here so we're not doing rules and selections and I guess the last one, then, will be daffodil definitely do you want to give a neighborhood committee update. 741 01:23:10.230 --> 01:23:21.750 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah and two things one while we were going through government reports Freddie send an email to the board with freddie's update I see it's rather lengthy it's an email, I suggest we just post it. 742 01:23:22.230 --> 01:23:27.240 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay i'm in the Minutes, with the agenda and folks can go back and see it. 743 01:23:27.450 --> 01:23:33.960 james murez: Would you like to share the screen with that email, and then we just scroll through it, so that we would be included into the recorded video. 744 01:23:34.170 --> 01:23:37.950 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm sure hold on a second. 745 01:23:45.030 --> 01:23:47.370 Daffodil Tyminski: Just kind of make sure I got the right one here okay. 746 01:23:47.400 --> 01:23:48.000 james murez: Take your time. 747 01:23:56.370 --> 01:23:58.740 james murez: Do you have any kind of a report today on your committee Alec. 748 01:23:59.100 --> 01:24:08.640 Daffodil Tyminski: Just just very quickly before it goes The other thing with the board committee is we're going to i'm going to try to stick to the same schedule that the committee had before there's a lot of the same old committee members on it. 749 01:24:09.300 --> 01:24:12.930 Daffodil Tyminski: And I believe that's the last Thursday of the month in the morning. 750 01:24:13.980 --> 01:24:23.940 Daffodil Tyminski: i'll be reaching out to everyone to discuss what we're doing but we've got a couple of important projects coming up, particularly with respect to fema. 751 01:24:24.660 --> 01:24:36.420 Daffodil Tyminski: And the redistricting of much of Venice is a flood zone which will impact, how we ensure ourselves how we build and a lot going on in our Community, but can you see this email. 752 01:24:36.600 --> 01:24:41.010 james murez: No, not yet and and would use were you saying the last Thursday with that going to be this month. 753 01:24:41.490 --> 01:24:43.020 james murez: Yes, okay great Thank you. 754 01:24:43.950 --> 01:24:45.030 Daffodil Tyminski: And can you see this. 755 01:24:45.060 --> 01:24:47.430 james murez: yeah if you can enlarge it can you zoom in on. 756 01:24:47.520 --> 01:24:48.570 Daffodil Tyminski: That so saying is. 757 01:24:48.570 --> 01:24:50.940 Daffodil Tyminski: kind of a lengthy email try to. 758 01:24:52.230 --> 01:24:53.190 Daffodil Tyminski: And if you can like. 759 01:24:53.550 --> 01:24:55.380 james murez: Make it full screen, or is it full. 760 01:24:55.380 --> 01:24:57.270 Daffodil Tyminski: screen, this is full screen actually. 761 01:24:57.570 --> 01:24:58.080 james murez: Oh well. 762 01:24:58.200 --> 01:25:03.810 Daffodil Tyminski: he's a real small fine trust me i'm challenged myself, but I can I can lead you through it a little bit um. 763 01:25:03.840 --> 01:25:09.540 james murez: that's all right let's let's let's do this let's just post it on the dnc site and let it go with that. 764 01:25:09.840 --> 01:25:13.620 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay i'm scrolling through someone with a zoom can. 765 01:25:16.410 --> 01:25:19.800 Daffodil Tyminski: can see it, but I think we did touch on much of these topics. 766 01:25:20.190 --> 01:25:22.740 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay um when we were talking. 767 01:25:23.160 --> 01:25:24.690 james murez: All right, great Thank you bill. 768 01:25:24.870 --> 01:25:25.470 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you. 769 01:25:27.480 --> 01:25:33.690 james murez: um, so I think we've gotten through alley I didn't hear your answer, did you have anything on your committee that you wanted to report back. 770 01:25:33.900 --> 01:25:43.560 Alley Bean: Well, I could just report, so that people know I had been in touch with the principal at Venice high and several people that are going to speak. 771 01:25:44.430 --> 01:25:56.670 Alley Bean: The DEA and a couple of people who are who have who have knowledge of fentanyl awareness fentanyl related awareness other there's going to be several speakers. 772 01:25:57.660 --> 01:26:05.910 Alley Bean: It coming up in the future with teenagers at Venice i'm going to be talking to two other principles that we just haven't connected only by email so far. 773 01:26:06.720 --> 01:26:12.510 james murez: So that's where you are you planning, are you planning a meeting with with that you'll be posting for other people to attend anytime. 774 01:26:12.720 --> 01:26:17.970 Alley Bean: I absolutely Am I have board now to board so we're gonna have our first meeting. 775 01:26:18.120 --> 01:26:22.800 Alley Bean: But I just wanted to get all those ducks in a row, before I did all before I have made it committee meeting. 776 01:26:23.940 --> 01:26:24.540 Alley Bean: Sorry hey. 777 01:26:24.600 --> 01:26:35.820 james murez: Thank you very much okay um I think that concludes a vicki did you have anything you wanted to report you're not really a committee, but you certainly do a lot of work for us as communications officer. 778 01:26:40.170 --> 01:26:43.140 james murez: vicki have to unmute if you want to say something. 779 01:26:44.700 --> 01:26:45.510 Vicki Halliday: I have nothing. 780 01:26:48.480 --> 01:26:49.830 james murez: that's the best report of all. 781 01:26:51.390 --> 01:26:54.870 james murez: Okay let's keep going we're not doing too bad on time. 782 01:26:56.910 --> 01:27:05.550 james murez: We have a long agenda Okay, so we did the water Okay, so a treasurer's report i'm Andre you go ahead you've got the. 783 01:27:05.580 --> 01:27:09.930 Andrea Boccaletti: Florida again thank you i'm going to keep a really nice and short and sweet. 784 01:27:12.090 --> 01:27:14.400 Andrea Boccaletti: So let me share my screen. 785 01:27:16.050 --> 01:27:17.370 james murez: You want to you want me to bring it up. 786 01:27:18.210 --> 01:27:19.410 Andrea Boccaletti: i'm going to bring it up. 787 01:27:19.680 --> 01:27:20.040 Okay. 788 01:27:22.200 --> 01:27:22.860 Andrea Boccaletti: Okay. 789 01:27:29.850 --> 01:27:31.890 Andrea Boccaletti: you'll see that yep okay. 790 01:27:33.090 --> 01:27:34.860 Andrea Boccaletti: i'm sorry. 791 01:27:34.950 --> 01:27:36.420 james murez: We need a motion first. 792 01:27:37.710 --> 01:27:39.630 Andrea Boccaletti: Welcome, can I just talk about it first and then we can. 793 01:27:39.630 --> 01:27:42.240 james murez: know we talked we talked about it after we have a motion and a second. 794 01:27:42.390 --> 01:27:42.750 Daffodil Tyminski: So. 795 01:27:42.810 --> 01:27:45.420 Daffodil Tyminski: i'll make a motion to approve the monthly expenditure report. 796 01:27:47.550 --> 01:27:48.780 Andrea Boccaletti: Thank you very good. 797 01:27:48.930 --> 01:27:53.100 james murez: Now you can meet Now you can give your you can make your presentation. 798 01:27:54.180 --> 01:27:56.130 Andrea Boccaletti: Okay pretty straightforward here. 799 01:27:58.560 --> 01:28:05.520 Andrea Boccaletti: Still, because this was August we were still working out all the issues with the credit card and everything. 800 01:28:06.990 --> 01:28:17.580 Andrea Boccaletti: So there were a couple of things that were spent paid here just things that were administrative this far as constant contact with tent which handles all of our email. 801 01:28:21.150 --> 01:28:26.280 Andrea Boccaletti: The what else was some a couple of Facebook ads from the outreach committee. 802 01:28:27.300 --> 01:28:37.380 Andrea Boccaletti: And we have here if you see there's commitments of 1100 dollars and 80 cents, from the very top there before the net available. 803 01:28:38.160 --> 01:28:55.170 Andrea Boccaletti: Those are the are some outstanding bills, that we have from apple one which we are no longer using which I don't know the full scope of what it did it's all before I was elected treasurer So these are just some bills that were. 804 01:28:57.570 --> 01:29:05.940 Andrea Boccaletti: They weren't overlooked by the previous treasurer it just they weren't handled by the city when they should have been by check so. 805 01:29:06.630 --> 01:29:17.100 Andrea Boccaletti: There there's commitments i've now put in some orders for those checks to be written, we should be paid up we haven't incurred any late fees for from anybody so that's a good thing. 806 01:29:19.230 --> 01:29:19.800 Andrea Boccaletti: and 807 01:29:21.780 --> 01:29:22.950 Andrea Boccaletti: that's it there's any. 808 01:29:24.000 --> 01:29:24.690 Andrea Boccaletti: discussion. 809 01:29:25.800 --> 01:29:32.550 james murez: Okay, thank you um definitely do we have anybody in the community wants to make public comment on this. 810 01:29:32.670 --> 01:29:35.070 Daffodil Tyminski: I see no public comment on this. 811 01:29:35.700 --> 01:29:36.330 james murez: Okay. 812 01:29:36.990 --> 01:29:42.690 Daffodil Tyminski: So we're going to close public comment and go on to the board, and I see no board hands raised. 813 01:29:43.980 --> 01:29:46.920 james murez: Okay, then, Melissa let's take a boat. 814 01:30:01.020 --> 01:30:02.520 Daffodil Tyminski: And we'll see you have to unmute yourself. 815 01:30:20.220 --> 01:30:22.800 Daffodil Tyminski: I go ahead and call the vote without Melissa here. 816 01:30:25.050 --> 01:30:27.750 Andrea Boccaletti: If you want, I can call the book, then I can take the notes for. 817 01:30:28.110 --> 01:30:29.850 Daffodil Tyminski: Perfect well, thank you right. 818 01:30:31.230 --> 01:30:35.520 Andrea Boccaletti: Okay um Oh, you know what why don't you do it on sorry I don't have to list of everybody. 819 01:30:36.720 --> 01:30:40.260 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay i'll call myself what Jimmy is. 820 01:30:40.530 --> 01:30:40.980 james murez: Yes. 821 01:30:41.070 --> 01:30:41.520 Are you. 822 01:30:43.320 --> 01:30:45.960 Daffodil Tyminski: A daffodil sieminski will vote yes. 823 01:30:47.070 --> 01:30:48.810 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm Andrea. 824 01:30:49.320 --> 01:30:49.800 Yes. 825 01:30:52.260 --> 01:30:53.850 Daffodil Tyminski: Clark Brown. 826 01:30:54.120 --> 01:30:54.600 Yes. 827 01:30:57.210 --> 01:30:58.560 Daffodil Tyminski: ELISE bukowski. 828 01:30:58.800 --> 01:30:59.400 Yes. 829 01:31:04.110 --> 01:31:04.560 Yes. 830 01:31:07.950 --> 01:31:08.550 Yes. 831 01:31:11.670 --> 01:31:12.090 jim robb: Yes. 832 01:31:14.820 --> 01:31:15.330 Soledad Ursua: Yes. 833 01:31:17.760 --> 01:31:18.660 Daffodil Tyminski: vicki holiday. 834 01:31:18.990 --> 01:31:19.470 Yes. 835 01:31:22.290 --> 01:31:23.790 Daffodil Tyminski: Wait everyone's in. 836 01:31:27.120 --> 01:31:28.080 Daffodil Tyminski: Elizabeth clay. 837 01:31:29.280 --> 01:31:29.850 ElizabethClay: Yes. 838 01:31:33.630 --> 01:31:34.380 Daffodil Tyminski: Mike bravo. 839 01:31:35.190 --> 01:31:35.610 Yes. 840 01:31:38.280 --> 01:31:39.330 Daffodil Tyminski: NICO Berman. 841 01:31:41.250 --> 01:31:41.700 Nico Ruderman: Yes. 842 01:31:45.960 --> 01:31:46.500 robertthibodeau: Yes. 843 01:31:47.970 --> 01:31:49.080 Daffodil Tyminski: and see Mona. 844 01:31:51.030 --> 01:31:51.420 Sima Kostovetsky: yeah. 845 01:31:52.380 --> 01:31:57.570 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so I got a text, by the way, in the middle of this that stay in the home and had to step out. 846 01:31:58.740 --> 01:32:00.360 Daffodil Tyminski: For looking neighborhood emergency. 847 01:32:01.410 --> 01:32:01.830 Alley Bean: And Dan. 848 01:32:02.490 --> 01:32:04.410 robertthibodeau: bruno's raising his hand, you might have missed him. 849 01:32:04.680 --> 01:32:09.690 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay yeah I will, for some reason I can't get them to a panelist i'm allie. 850 01:32:10.440 --> 01:32:10.920 Yes. 851 01:32:14.160 --> 01:32:16.110 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, most i'm going to mark absent. 852 01:32:18.180 --> 01:32:22.200 Daffodil Tyminski: And then Bruno you should be able to speak go ahead. 853 01:32:23.010 --> 01:32:23.340 yeah. 854 01:32:24.930 --> 01:32:25.410 Bruno Hernandez: Okay. 855 01:32:27.270 --> 01:32:30.390 Daffodil Tyminski: um if you are a palace and you've been missed raise your hand. 856 01:32:33.030 --> 01:32:33.990 Daffodil Tyminski: I think that's everyone. 857 01:32:35.610 --> 01:32:36.720 james murez: So does the motion carry. 858 01:32:37.200 --> 01:32:40.380 Daffodil Tyminski: The motion carries with everyone present voting yes. 859 01:32:40.770 --> 01:32:42.840 Andrea Boccaletti: Can you give me the vote count for that, please. 860 01:32:43.650 --> 01:32:52.320 234 517. 861 01:32:53.640 --> 01:32:54.120 Daffodil Tyminski: and 862 01:32:54.480 --> 01:32:56.010 Daffodil Tyminski: Zero and then. 863 01:32:57.030 --> 01:33:00.420 Daffodil Tyminski: Like I guess 17 00 which you members out to them. 864 01:33:00.840 --> 01:33:03.150 Andrea Boccaletti: Okay, who made the motion did you make the motion definitely. 865 01:33:03.240 --> 01:33:05.400 Daffodil Tyminski: I made the motion and I believe you second it yes. 866 01:33:05.430 --> 01:33:12.750 Andrea Boccaletti: Okay, all right, thank you and then just the last thing here i'll touch on is a stakeholder made a. 867 01:33:13.890 --> 01:33:18.450 Andrea Boccaletti: suggestion that we catch up and get better than going. 868 01:33:20.010 --> 01:33:20.430 Soledad Ursua: to war. 869 01:33:21.570 --> 01:33:22.860 Soledad Ursua: But I haven't done so because it's. 870 01:33:22.860 --> 01:33:24.450 james murez: not bad, can you me, a place. 871 01:33:28.260 --> 01:33:38.070 Andrea Boccaletti: That we we get more caught up on the monthly expenditure reports so we're looking into that just about maybe changing the date for the budget and Finance Committee. 872 01:33:38.640 --> 01:33:51.090 Andrea Boccaletti: Somehow that we'd still be able to get motions if we needed for them to get on to the outcome, so that they make it to the board agenda so we're going to work on that and hopefully we'll just be going one month back meetings. 873 01:33:51.120 --> 01:33:52.710 Andrea Boccaletti: So that okay thanks. 874 01:33:52.890 --> 01:33:57.690 james murez: yeah let's take that let's take that up in committee that sounds like a good idea let's move along. 875 01:33:58.950 --> 01:34:00.480 james murez: So now we're at. 876 01:34:02.130 --> 01:34:07.950 james murez: Item number seven announcements from the public on items, not on the agenda. 877 01:34:10.410 --> 01:34:13.020 james murez: The agenda so everybody gets a minute. 878 01:34:14.280 --> 01:34:18.480 james murez: And daffodil, how do you want to do this, you want to go through and call them one, at a time. 879 01:34:18.570 --> 01:34:19.620 Daffodil Tyminski: sure we have. 880 01:34:20.370 --> 01:34:21.660 james murez: Are you going to keep the time. 881 01:34:22.470 --> 01:34:25.950 Daffodil Tyminski: I will keep the time just give me one second sorry I was charging up here. 882 01:34:26.160 --> 01:34:27.720 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay um we have. 883 01:34:30.300 --> 01:34:33.060 Daffodil Tyminski: A six hands raised. 884 01:34:35.280 --> 01:34:49.680 Daffodil Tyminski: Nikita dal defend against a cello Helen fallon shauna Brian you'll want to consolidate Lisa redmen Lisa we will stop with you and close public comment after Lisa i'm Darrell why don't you go ahead, first, and here is the time. 885 01:34:51.450 --> 01:34:56.340 Darryl DuFay: Oh, thank you, I wanted to know what is the status of the neighborhood committee. 886 01:34:57.360 --> 01:35:09.750 Darryl DuFay: There is on the website, there are no names on anything, and I assume that in terms of chuck rosen that you were going to add, so the silver triangle to represent, where he lives. 887 01:35:12.360 --> 01:35:27.750 james murez: Okay, thank you Darrell will take that we don't respond to public comment, but we will take that into consideration and and I will just meant mentioned that daffodil did say that there would be a month, a meeting of the neighborhood Council last Thursday of this month. 888 01:35:28.830 --> 01:35:29.490 Darryl DuFay: Thank you. 889 01:35:29.730 --> 01:35:30.600 james murez: Thank you very much. 890 01:35:31.890 --> 01:35:33.870 Daffodil Tyminski: I Nick answer and show go ahead. 891 01:35:36.870 --> 01:35:43.650 Nick Antonicello: yeah, I just wanted to make a point that as we get closer to the deadline for the recall bonding campaign. 892 01:35:44.220 --> 01:35:51.810 Nick Antonicello: There are many of you who may not have signed the petition who support this effort and we're hopeful, we could use all hands on deck. 893 01:35:52.320 --> 01:36:01.680 Nick Antonicello: grab a clipboard and go out and get signatures if everyone on the neighborhood Council who supports this initiative went out and got signatures at the an extra thousand. 894 01:36:02.400 --> 01:36:12.210 Nick Antonicello: And we're very close this is going to happen, and I want to thank NICO is a member of the Vinci for leading us in this historic effort to get rid of my time, thank you. 895 01:36:13.590 --> 01:36:16.140 james murez: Thank you, Nick go ahead who's the next one. 896 01:36:16.410 --> 01:36:21.390 Daffodil Tyminski: Helen fallin go ahead hold on one guide you yeah. 897 01:36:22.140 --> 01:36:29.550 Helen Fallon: I just want to remind this or that the restrictions on public comment did not come to you as a recommendation from add con. 898 01:36:30.030 --> 01:36:37.770 Helen Fallon: And it really is for the board to decide, it should have gone through a committee, it should be decided by the board as Jim said, this is procedural. 899 01:36:37.980 --> 01:36:44.700 Helen Fallon: So it would require the adoption of a standing rule it's not just something that can be unilaterally and post and. 900 01:36:45.360 --> 01:36:55.800 Helen Fallon: I remind you, to that the purpose of the mcs so listen to the stakeholders lemonade community to less than 10 seconds per item that's exactly what's going to happen to get two minutes to. 901 01:36:56.130 --> 01:37:04.620 Helen Fallon: comment on the entire agenda or on several items on the agenda absolutely sends a message that you clearly don't care about hearing from the stakeholders. 902 01:37:05.130 --> 01:37:14.700 Helen Fallon: And our input is irrelevant if you're going to do this, I would suggest that you limit every board member to 10 second comments on agenda items and see how that works. 903 01:37:17.340 --> 01:37:18.990 Helen Fallon: So okay. 904 01:37:20.850 --> 01:37:21.240 Daffodil Tyminski: Sorry. 905 01:37:21.990 --> 01:37:22.830 james murez: I think she was done. 906 01:37:23.130 --> 01:37:26.730 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, thank you Sean o'brien go ahead. 907 01:37:28.200 --> 01:37:33.930 sean obrien: awesome yeah thanks so just wanted to remind everybody three weeks left to the MIC button and recall. 908 01:37:34.410 --> 01:37:46.920 sean obrien: I did want you guys to send the police report to Mike bonnen who claims that homelessness and crime of there's no data backing it up that an increase of homelessness increases crime. 909 01:37:47.880 --> 01:37:56.250 sean obrien: So please send that to him i'd love to see his face on that I remember venice's a containment zone of my biggest thing is monster in the median. 910 01:37:56.700 --> 01:38:17.640 sean obrien: of November 2 2pm please call 669 to 545252 meeting ID 1616446631 this is our last chance to reach the city and give our input on the monster on the median fight back bennett's need your help. 911 01:38:18.240 --> 01:38:34.200 sean obrien: You can go to fight back venice.org plenty of information they need donations, as well as recall bond, and they need donations so everybody use your stimulus money help these recalls help these lawsuits well let's take Venice back, thank you for your time everybody love you guys. 912 01:38:36.330 --> 01:38:36.930 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you. 913 01:38:39.690 --> 01:38:40.530 Daffodil Tyminski: The speaker. 914 01:38:40.710 --> 01:38:41.070 james murez: Know on. 915 01:38:41.100 --> 01:38:43.860 Daffodil Tyminski: Our next speaker Yolanda guide ELENA. 916 01:38:45.630 --> 01:38:46.710 Yolanda Gonzalez: hi can you hear me. 917 01:38:47.250 --> 01:38:47.550 james murez: Yes, I. 918 01:38:47.610 --> 01:38:49.650 Yolanda Gonzalez: Can okay um. 919 01:38:50.700 --> 01:39:01.410 Yolanda Gonzalez: i'm our fence was set on fire, last Thursday morning I live on the corner of Abbot kinney and Venice and. 920 01:39:02.130 --> 01:39:09.900 Yolanda Gonzalez: i'm very grateful that the fire department did get here, it could have set my husband's car on fire in the tree that's. 921 01:39:10.470 --> 01:39:24.600 Yolanda Gonzalez: got dead leaves right now, it could have just gone up tremendously, it was intentional, one of the cameras did catch a person coming into our property move my fence open the fence and the fire started. 922 01:39:25.680 --> 01:39:31.290 Yolanda Gonzalez: That last week, there were three fires here in Venice and i'm surprised the police department did not report this. 923 01:39:32.700 --> 01:39:41.550 Yolanda Gonzalez: And it's very scary that we have to live like this and be on the lookout it happened at four o'clock in the morning. 924 01:39:42.150 --> 01:40:01.650 Yolanda Gonzalez: So I just want to warn people out there, that there are some really nasty people out there, why they are doing this, I have no idea, but the arson unit did come to my home late that evening at eight o'clock and they were wonderful and they need help, there are only two. 925 01:40:02.880 --> 01:40:06.120 Daffodil Tyminski: Yolanda, we need to cut you off just because of the time, but thank you. 926 01:40:06.660 --> 01:40:08.340 Yolanda Gonzalez: Okay, thank you mm hmm. 927 01:40:09.450 --> 01:40:10.080 Daffodil Tyminski: um. 928 01:40:11.160 --> 01:40:13.350 Daffodil Tyminski: Lisa redmen go ahead. 929 01:40:15.480 --> 01:40:25.680 Lisa Redmond: hope I can go as long as Yolanda to um, thank you for starting it the meeting for indigenous peoples day wish you could have spelled that correctly, though in the agenda. 930 01:40:26.880 --> 01:40:36.930 Lisa Redmond: I am against this new public speaking Rule you are not the City Council, you are not the coastal Commission you are at the first line of. 931 01:40:38.910 --> 01:40:43.650 Lisa Redmond: participation of stakeholders and constituents and they need access. 932 01:40:44.220 --> 01:41:02.490 Lisa Redmond: Even City Council allows three minutes for people to speak up three individual items plus one minute for general public comment so four minutes at a city council, I also want to bring up that I know people are upset about homelessness and encampments but you need to maintain patience. 933 01:41:03.570 --> 01:41:11.400 Lisa Redmond: Many people are removing campaigns illegally by hiring people hiring private contractors private security firms to do that. 934 01:41:11.760 --> 01:41:20.250 Lisa Redmond: It is illegal to do that some people on this board have said that they don't know that that happens, it does happen. 935 01:41:21.000 --> 01:41:30.750 Lisa Redmond: So please don't remove people and then, finally, I want to bring up that one year ago, this month the Venice neighborhood Council voted 40 $500 for the final piece of. 936 01:41:31.680 --> 01:41:39.510 Lisa Redmond: The Frederick passageway to be finished it's still sitting one years later, and done so please spend your money responsibly, thank you. 937 01:41:39.720 --> 01:41:47.280 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you so much Lisa and we actually have one more comment that I missed earlier, and that is Robin murals Robin. 938 01:41:49.080 --> 01:41:49.590 Vicki Halliday: Go ahead. 939 01:41:51.900 --> 01:42:00.000 Robin Murez: hi good evening, so I just want to bring up that the prior board has a motion to have a Mexican American. 940 01:42:00.720 --> 01:42:12.450 Robin Murez: monument put in the middle of Windward circle to commemorate the Mexican Americans who had built the railroads in California and well that's like sounds really politically correct. 941 01:42:13.170 --> 01:42:17.670 Robin Murez: In reality, there were no railroads in the middle of Windward circle that was the lagoon. 942 01:42:18.120 --> 01:42:31.200 Robin Murez: And, but there was a railroad that still has a nationally registered historic bridge that crosses grand canal and is currently at the risk of being destroyed by the monster on the median. 943 01:42:31.590 --> 01:42:35.580 Robin Murez: And so I think that this is something that the Board should correct. 944 01:42:36.450 --> 01:42:44.580 Robin Murez: That a monument or that a plaque at least should be put on the bridge, which is the true location of a historic location for. 945 01:42:44.910 --> 01:42:55.290 Robin Murez: Recognizing Mexican Americans having built the railroad system and, at the same time we shouldn't be putting it in the middle of one word circle so let's do that correction, thank you. 946 01:42:55.950 --> 01:42:56.760 Daffodil Tyminski: So much. 947 01:42:57.300 --> 01:42:58.920 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, closing public. 948 01:42:59.340 --> 01:43:01.890 james murez: Public comment you Thank you good to have it oh um. 949 01:43:02.970 --> 01:43:05.340 james murez: Okay let's get back to our. 950 01:43:06.360 --> 01:43:07.200 james murez: Agenda 951 01:43:10.980 --> 01:43:15.540 james murez: Where are we now i'm number eight general consent calendar. 952 01:43:16.980 --> 01:43:18.030 james murez: So. 953 01:43:19.590 --> 01:43:20.400 james murez: We have. 954 01:43:22.140 --> 01:43:22.470 james murez: eight. 955 01:43:22.530 --> 01:43:23.130 A. 956 01:43:24.510 --> 01:43:25.620 james murez: Eight be. 957 01:43:26.910 --> 01:43:28.110 james murez: Eight see. 958 01:43:31.560 --> 01:43:34.230 james murez: We have three items on the consent calendar. 959 01:43:35.490 --> 01:43:40.200 james murez: Do I have a motion to approve the general consent calendar. 960 01:43:40.380 --> 01:43:41.400 Alley Bean: i'll make a motion. 961 01:43:41.820 --> 01:43:42.090 Andrea Boccaletti: Who is. 962 01:43:42.870 --> 01:43:44.520 melissadiner: You don't need a motion Jim. 963 01:43:45.300 --> 01:43:50.280 melissadiner: If there's no one pulls it off, and nobody then it's unanimous done. 964 01:43:51.090 --> 01:43:55.410 james murez: Okay, well, I see no hands so it's unanimous and it's done. 965 01:43:56.280 --> 01:43:57.570 Daffodil Tyminski: Right, there are no hands. 966 01:43:57.750 --> 01:44:00.870 jim robb: Okay, everybody, I appreciate all those, thank you very much. 967 01:44:01.260 --> 01:44:02.370 james murez: Okay, thank you. 968 01:44:04.620 --> 01:44:07.080 james murez: yeah and let's move on now to. 969 01:44:08.520 --> 01:44:09.450 james murez: nine. 970 01:44:11.130 --> 01:44:16.140 james murez: I received a message earlier that there was one other item that might have belonged. 971 01:44:17.310 --> 01:44:19.410 james murez: I believe it was this CREST. 972 01:44:19.440 --> 01:44:20.850 Alix: More CREST more Jim. 973 01:44:21.450 --> 01:44:22.560 james murez: Yes, it's a. 974 01:44:22.620 --> 01:44:23.760 james murez: it's a four to vote. 975 01:44:24.990 --> 01:44:26.610 james murez: So we only put them on on. 976 01:44:27.330 --> 01:44:30.630 Alix: It was two people who were recused. 977 01:44:31.980 --> 01:44:32.370 Alix: So. 978 01:44:32.400 --> 01:44:34.710 james murez: The vote that was sent through was incorrect. 979 01:44:37.140 --> 01:44:38.610 james murez: It says here for two zero. 980 01:44:40.320 --> 01:44:47.610 james murez: So would have been poor 02 is that what you're saying you're yeah the minute The minutes of blue pack reflected support 02 or. 981 01:44:48.030 --> 01:44:51.600 Alix: 3040 let me double check them right now, Jim. 982 01:44:52.050 --> 01:44:53.940 james murez: Okay, why don't you double check that real quick. 983 01:44:54.360 --> 01:44:54.630 Alix: and 984 01:44:54.690 --> 01:44:59.460 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm not sure that it's a fortress zoo if there were accused of standing is different than recusal. 985 01:45:00.840 --> 01:45:05.940 james murez: yeah that's true they just been tried so it's actually five possibilities. 986 01:45:06.030 --> 01:45:10.440 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm not sure that they had a forum for that, but let's. 987 01:45:12.180 --> 01:45:14.520 james murez: Go you're right for wouldn't be corn for loop and. 988 01:45:14.520 --> 01:45:17.040 Alix: might have been extension, let me, let me check Jim. 989 01:45:17.220 --> 01:45:17.790 james murez: Thank you. 990 01:45:23.970 --> 01:45:28.020 Daffodil Tyminski: And we didn't go through nine so let's why don't we do the loop at consent calendar. 991 01:45:28.350 --> 01:45:31.710 james murez: Well, this is there, what we're doing is we're trying to decide if this is going on, we pack consent. 992 01:45:33.900 --> 01:45:34.380 Daffodil Tyminski: That yeah. 993 01:45:37.080 --> 01:45:45.870 james murez: We could we could do twice, we could do this twice does anybody want to take to 18 Main Street or 2321 Abba Kenny off of consent. 994 01:45:47.040 --> 01:45:50.940 Alix: Oh sorry, there were two notes, it was done correctly. 995 01:45:51.570 --> 01:45:53.040 james murez: Okay, so it stays where it is. 996 01:45:54.000 --> 01:46:02.160 james murez: hey so I see no hands to take nine eight or nine be off of the loop at consent, so those paths as well. 997 01:46:04.650 --> 01:46:09.540 james murez: we're now on to 10 707 CREST more. 998 01:46:10.680 --> 01:46:13.260 james murez: A leak, you want to make the motion and then do we have. 999 01:46:15.390 --> 01:46:18.690 james murez: The staff person here to make the presentation. 1000 01:46:20.670 --> 01:46:23.700 Daffodil Tyminski: I do not believe many she's here. 1001 01:46:26.940 --> 01:46:28.650 Daffodil Tyminski: ELISE can you present it. 1002 01:46:29.790 --> 01:46:35.520 Alix: um, yes, but that's not the correct motion that went on to my dnc minutes. 1003 01:46:36.450 --> 01:46:37.650 james murez: Then we have a problem. 1004 01:46:38.310 --> 01:46:51.270 Alix: The motion was the dnc recommends approval of the project is presented as a de minimis project with a letter issue to the city that this is a de minimis project, and now I know why this wasn't. 1005 01:46:52.320 --> 01:47:06.840 Alix: This wasn't a consent is because I said that it and, and I think marunouchi agreed that it was redundant having it having it stated as a de minimis project with the letter issue that it's a de minimis project as well too. 1006 01:47:07.170 --> 01:47:07.800 Alix: yeah so the way. 1007 01:47:08.160 --> 01:47:19.980 james murez: The way the motion is there reads correctly, it was reviewed by our parliamentarian and it says exactly the same thing we're sending a letter to the city saying it's a de minimis project. 1008 01:47:21.240 --> 01:47:37.680 Alix: Okay, so just so you know, Jim for clarity that's what what we wanted the original motion to be in in lupa and that was amended with the devil de minimis and that's why we did not support that motion myself. 1009 01:47:38.730 --> 01:47:44.970 Alix: But anyway, i'll read the motion the dnc she'll send a letter to the city approving this project is presented to be de minimis. 1010 01:47:45.840 --> 01:47:46.710 james murez: He made the motion. 1011 01:47:47.130 --> 01:47:50.040 james murez: So leaks, is making a week you're making the motion. 1012 01:47:53.880 --> 01:47:55.800 james murez: elite you're you're the maker of the motion. 1013 01:47:56.160 --> 01:47:57.360 Alix: I am the maker of motion. 1014 01:47:57.390 --> 01:47:58.530 robertthibodeau: thanks again. 1015 01:47:58.830 --> 01:48:00.420 robertthibodeau: Who was Robert. 1016 01:48:00.600 --> 01:48:04.500 james murez: Thank you, Robert now let's look to public comment do. 1017 01:48:04.500 --> 01:48:06.840 james murez: We have any public comment, we have at least one hand up. 1018 01:48:07.020 --> 01:48:12.570 Daffodil Tyminski: We do have public comment i'm Helen found anyone else wanna put their hand up here. 1019 01:48:14.580 --> 01:48:20.190 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay we'll take our and found an enclosed public comment up sorry we've got maybe just Helen Helen go ahead. 1020 01:48:21.450 --> 01:48:31.470 Helen Fallon: minus a point of information, I thought, if the committee sense of recommendation it goes to the board, as the committee voted on it, and then it can be amended at the board level. 1021 01:48:32.130 --> 01:48:40.500 Helen Fallon: it's a little troubling to hear that the parliamentarian rewrites motions seems to be what you're saying here that's not I don't think that's proper procedure oh. 1022 01:48:44.490 --> 01:48:45.180 Daffodil Tyminski: OK. 1023 01:48:45.270 --> 01:48:47.130 Daffodil Tyminski: We are closing public comment. 1024 01:48:47.370 --> 01:48:50.370 james murez: i'm suppose public comment does a committee have any. 1025 01:48:50.610 --> 01:48:51.870 james murez: comment yeah. 1026 01:48:57.270 --> 01:48:58.770 jim robb: glendale de minimis mean. 1027 01:48:59.250 --> 01:49:06.990 james murez: That means that we're not taking a position on it yay or nay we're just we're saying that we don't have any objections yeah. 1028 01:49:07.020 --> 01:49:07.470 jim robb: Thank you. 1029 01:49:07.500 --> 01:49:14.580 james murez: Well we're not we're not supporting it and we're not denying it it to us to us, it means that's what the meaning the meaning of de minimis is. 1030 01:49:15.150 --> 01:49:16.890 james murez: We were neutral on it. 1031 01:49:17.520 --> 01:49:18.450 Daffodil Tyminski: I didn't go. 1032 01:49:18.720 --> 01:49:21.390 Daffodil Tyminski: I think that's not exactly correct. 1033 01:49:21.660 --> 01:49:23.040 james murez: Okay, go ahead, what do you want. 1034 01:49:23.040 --> 01:49:26.940 Daffodil Tyminski: me de minimis means have minimal impact right, so I think it's. 1035 01:49:26.940 --> 01:49:29.310 Alix: A perfect thanks dad. 1036 01:49:29.640 --> 01:49:30.120 um. 1037 01:49:31.170 --> 01:49:32.340 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah it means. 1038 01:49:32.490 --> 01:49:38.970 Daffodil Tyminski: You know it's so minor that it's not something that we would pass on and typically in the land use context that's because it's within. 1039 01:49:40.320 --> 01:49:45.090 Daffodil Tyminski: The the the rules already prescribed fire land use plan and specific plan. 1040 01:49:45.360 --> 01:49:46.440 james murez: I stand corrected. 1041 01:49:47.220 --> 01:49:49.140 Alix: That is great yeah for correcting that. 1042 01:49:49.500 --> 01:49:50.100 james murez: Look let's. 1043 01:49:50.130 --> 01:49:51.510 james murez: let's take a vote on this. 1044 01:49:52.500 --> 01:49:53.100 Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, there's no. 1045 01:49:53.160 --> 01:49:53.550 Work on. 1046 01:49:55.170 --> 01:49:56.580 Daffodil Tyminski: Melissa Melissa are you back. 1047 01:49:58.410 --> 01:49:59.130 melissadiner: yeah i'm here. 1048 01:49:59.430 --> 01:50:03.840 james murez: Thank you, can you take a roll call vote, please item yeah Chen a. 1049 01:50:15.090 --> 01:50:18.150 Excuse me for one second. 1050 01:50:29.130 --> 01:50:30.510 melissadiner: Who is the second again. 1051 01:50:31.770 --> 01:50:32.430 Alley Bean: him rob. 1052 01:50:36.900 --> 01:50:37.650 melissadiner: Thanks. 1053 01:50:44.010 --> 01:50:49.020 melissadiner: Why it's not letting me alright well roll call vote is. 1054 01:50:52.290 --> 01:50:52.770 melissadiner: Jim. 1055 01:50:53.280 --> 01:50:54.660 melissadiner: Yes, Jaffa. 1056 01:50:55.080 --> 01:50:57.060 melissadiner: Yes, I have Oh yes, the leaks. 1057 01:50:59.820 --> 01:51:00.450 leaks. 1058 01:51:01.980 --> 01:51:03.000 Alix: Sorry, yes. 1059 01:51:03.120 --> 01:51:04.530 Vicki Halliday: vicki yes. 1060 01:51:04.740 --> 01:51:05.280 tema. 1061 01:51:06.510 --> 01:51:06.960 Sima Kostovetsky: yeah. 1062 01:51:07.140 --> 01:51:08.490 Alley Bean: holly yes. 1063 01:51:08.580 --> 01:51:11.220 melissadiner: hi yes Mike. 1064 01:51:11.730 --> 01:51:12.570 melissadiner: Yes, oh. 1065 01:51:14.040 --> 01:51:14.640 ElizabethClay: Yes. 1066 01:51:14.790 --> 01:51:15.360 melissadiner: Oh dad. 1067 01:51:15.600 --> 01:51:18.690 melissadiner: Yes, James rob NICO. 1068 01:51:21.840 --> 01:51:22.470 Nico Ruderman: So. 1069 01:51:22.650 --> 01:51:24.000 clark brown: Clark yes. 1070 01:51:24.120 --> 01:51:25.800 robertthibodeau: Our yes. 1071 01:51:25.890 --> 01:51:27.300 Bruno Hernandez: or no yes. 1072 01:51:28.680 --> 01:51:29.220 Andrea Boccaletti: Yes. 1073 01:51:29.340 --> 01:51:30.870 CJ Cole: cj yes. 1074 01:51:31.020 --> 01:51:34.410 melissadiner: Stan did anyone else show up that I missed Jason. 1075 01:51:34.530 --> 01:51:36.120 james murez: Yet Stan had to leave the meeting. 1076 01:51:36.900 --> 01:51:40.290 melissadiner: Okay, so got it thanks 18 00. 1077 01:51:41.310 --> 01:51:43.860 james murez: Thank you, moving right along. 1078 01:51:45.720 --> 01:51:53.850 james murez: we're now at a new business i'm Sema you want to make this motion, please. 1079 01:51:57.570 --> 01:51:58.260 Sima Kostovetsky: Thank you. 1080 01:52:00.330 --> 01:52:11.010 Sima Kostovetsky: The Venice neighborhood Council, led by the outreach committee will work in collaboration with the Department of recommend Park, to create the first annual Halloween party at the. 1081 01:52:11.040 --> 01:52:14.790 james murez: Venice you see here, excuse me, can you just read the motion. 1082 01:52:14.850 --> 01:52:15.900 Sima Kostovetsky: So we can get him reading. 1083 01:52:16.170 --> 01:52:18.120 james murez: The motion, no, no you're reading the description. 1084 01:52:18.570 --> 01:52:23.460 Sima Kostovetsky: Now i'm reading the motion five lines on page six bottom paid six. 1085 01:52:25.080 --> 01:52:26.220 james murez: Oh, excuse me you're right. 1086 01:52:27.300 --> 01:52:27.810 Sima Kostovetsky: Thank you. 1087 01:52:29.160 --> 01:52:39.510 Sima Kostovetsky: So first annual Halloween party at the Venice appear on October 31 from six to 9pm event will include a costume party contest. 1088 01:52:39.990 --> 01:52:51.180 Sima Kostovetsky: and be sponsored by the Washington square merchants, including arbor Fernando to Venezuela and others the event will be open to the general public and all ages are welcome. 1089 01:52:52.680 --> 01:52:54.720 james murez: And can we get a second, please. 1090 01:52:56.160 --> 01:52:56.700 Alley Bean: i'll second. 1091 01:52:56.760 --> 01:52:57.420 jim robb: One second it. 1092 01:52:58.500 --> 01:52:59.130 jim robb: Go alley. 1093 01:53:00.210 --> 01:53:01.320 james murez: Who was at the second. 1094 01:53:02.100 --> 01:53:03.900 james murez: alley Okay, thank you ellie. 1095 01:53:07.980 --> 01:53:13.980 james murez: um okay let's see if we have any public comment, it looks like there's one hand up. 1096 01:53:17.220 --> 01:53:18.120 Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead Helen. 1097 01:53:21.900 --> 01:53:37.620 Helen Fallon: i'm rather confused by the language here, says the outreach committee is working with I don't know who the person rack the private restaurants, I don't know what it sounds like you're sponsoring this event, and if you are. 1098 01:53:39.780 --> 01:53:52.560 Helen Fallon: I thought you had a file paperwork, but there's all sorts of regulations that have to occur all I gotta say if you're going to vote to approve and I hope that all of you got your umbrella policies in order and they cover because. 1099 01:53:53.880 --> 01:53:57.570 Helen Fallon: Have you covered your soul to the liability of sponsoring an event without approval. 1100 01:53:58.860 --> 01:54:05.820 Helen Fallon: By the by the city clerk's office let's basic funding round one will take it so. 1101 01:54:07.950 --> 01:54:10.260 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you Helen Lisa go ahead. 1102 01:54:11.580 --> 01:54:13.290 Daffodil Tyminski: And then we're closing public comment, by the way. 1103 01:54:14.970 --> 01:54:28.770 Lisa Redmond: I feel like this is a little too much too late and be your two weeks out from Halloween and it even says that this was debated in the outreach committee in September, so why is this coming to the board just now. 1104 01:54:29.340 --> 01:54:47.220 Lisa Redmond: i'm or could have been thought of earlier plus didn't I see earlier that you're already sponsoring as a Venice neighborhood Council an event earlier in the day for Halloween so at the art walls and around Windward and then you're going to rush down to the Pier to do another thing. 1105 01:54:48.450 --> 01:54:53.070 Lisa Redmond: it's a good idea it's just it's way backwards and way too late. 1106 01:54:54.180 --> 01:54:55.590 Lisa Redmond: This motion should be for next year. 1107 01:54:57.180 --> 01:54:57.840 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you. 1108 01:54:59.010 --> 01:54:59.430 Daffodil Tyminski: Any. 1109 01:54:59.970 --> 01:55:00.570 Daffodil Tyminski: amount man. 1110 01:55:00.810 --> 01:55:01.920 james murez: My comment is closed. 1111 01:55:02.520 --> 01:55:05.310 james murez: Yes, i'm cj you have your hand up go ahead. 1112 01:55:06.630 --> 01:55:17.190 CJ Cole: Yes, um I kind of agree with Lisa um but I don't know what sponsorship means. 1113 01:55:17.700 --> 01:55:28.260 CJ Cole: I don't know if this is involving any financial aspect, if it is, it has not gone through the Budget Committee is not been approved anywhere that I know of. 1114 01:55:28.710 --> 01:55:43.680 CJ Cole: I agree that is just way too quick unless somebody just wants to put our name on something and still I don't even know if we're covered by the insurance by putting our name on so I just think it's awful quick. 1115 01:55:45.600 --> 01:55:46.770 james murez: Thank you um. 1116 01:55:48.630 --> 01:55:50.820 james murez: what's next Andre go ahead place. 1117 01:55:52.050 --> 01:55:58.260 Andrea Boccaletti: Basically I echo the same things that cj just said and I don't believe we're spending any money for this right, because no. 1118 01:55:59.430 --> 01:56:02.700 Andrea Boccaletti: requests have been made to the Budget Committee so thanks. 1119 01:56:03.660 --> 01:56:05.190 james murez: Thank you Mike go ahead. 1120 01:56:06.030 --> 01:56:14.520 Mike Bravo: yeah i'm just looked confused about the motion aspect of it, it sounds more like a like an announcement and emotion, but that's just me that's it. 1121 01:56:15.120 --> 01:56:16.410 james murez: Thank you elite go ahead. 1122 01:56:18.540 --> 01:56:30.930 Alix: um I agree with Mike and I just want to say the following that with with the pandemic and covered we've had no sort of dnc events or no real sort of Venice Community events for quite some time. 1123 01:56:31.410 --> 01:56:41.370 Alix: And it doesn't look like this is something we're sponsoring it just looks like we're working with the Department of REC and parks and it doesn't look like there's a financial output and I think this would be a great. 1124 01:56:41.640 --> 01:56:52.380 Alix: Community building event and, yes, sometimes we like to dot our i's and cross our t's, but I think that the in the interest of our Community, this would this would be a. 1125 01:56:52.920 --> 01:56:58.710 Alix: You know, a wonderful thing, and I, and I hope it happens, and this is surfer i'm super stoked the purists finally open so that's all. 1126 01:56:59.070 --> 01:57:00.180 Sima Kostovetsky: Thank you, thank you. 1127 01:57:00.480 --> 01:57:09.510 Alley Bean: Ali go ahead, please yeah I mean I think it's a great it to to I before it, I just I worry about liability, but that I leave that to lawyers. 1128 01:57:09.930 --> 01:57:21.690 Alley Bean: But just as a board I just don't know what our liability would be enough, there was a big accident or something or a coven thing you know, like all that code preparation and stuff so that would be my only question. 1129 01:57:21.990 --> 01:57:24.870 james murez: Thank you very much, definitely you have your hand up. 1130 01:57:25.500 --> 01:57:25.920 james murez: Now. 1131 01:57:26.370 --> 01:57:27.330 Daffodil Tyminski: Oh no I don't sorry. 1132 01:57:28.110 --> 01:57:28.980 james murez: Okay um. 1133 01:57:30.570 --> 01:57:32.700 james murez: see my did you want to answer any other questions. 1134 01:57:34.950 --> 01:57:41.910 Sima Kostovetsky: Now, I think the motion speaks for itself, and I agree with some of the comments from the board, thank you for the support this is needed and. 1135 01:57:44.340 --> 01:57:49.140 Sima Kostovetsky: let's get everyone together it's Halloween and the weather is going to turn bad and let's. 1136 01:57:50.970 --> 01:57:51.480 Sima Kostovetsky: Thank you. 1137 01:57:51.780 --> 01:57:55.980 james murez: yeah I will make a comment that i'll make the last comment, then we'll take a quick vote. 1138 01:57:57.150 --> 01:58:01.740 james murez: The outreach committee is working in collaboration with department of record parks we're helping to organize it. 1139 01:58:02.970 --> 01:58:06.840 james murez: The sponsorships are being made by the private businesses down in the area. 1140 01:58:07.260 --> 01:58:16.620 james murez: And, and so the liability of somebody having spent money, or whatever you know it's the liability issue is going to be between the Department of REC and parks i'm sure they're covered. 1141 01:58:17.070 --> 01:58:28.020 james murez: And, and any of the restaurants or other merchants that are participating I think it's a great opportunity to start what I hope becomes a big annual event for us every year. 1142 01:58:28.590 --> 01:58:36.210 james murez: This is a really positive thing it's a great place that people can make noise and have a good time out on the Pier and and enjoy costumes. 1143 01:58:37.890 --> 01:58:40.020 james murez: let's take a boat Melissa roll call, please. 1144 01:58:40.080 --> 01:58:50.940 melissadiner: Can I just say one clarification thing for people to it that I think is really important is that Sema and outreach can promote anything that's already a. 1145 01:58:51.810 --> 01:59:06.270 melissadiner: city county state federal event no she doesn't have to ask permission she can do that at any time and and does that's why you see a lot of the things from all the different departments, whether they're fun or not. 1146 01:59:06.690 --> 01:59:19.440 melissadiner: I believe this particular thing, just to clarify what she's asking for is to also just have our dnc logo on it and cross promote the dnc is really at the end of the day, that all you're voting for, so I hope you support it. 1147 01:59:20.250 --> 01:59:21.420 james murez: Thank you, Melissa um. 1148 01:59:21.510 --> 01:59:23.520 Sima Kostovetsky: let's take a look, and I just add one last thing real. 1149 01:59:23.520 --> 01:59:24.780 james murez: Quick oh we're done. 1150 01:59:27.270 --> 01:59:27.960 james murez: let's move on. 1151 01:59:30.180 --> 01:59:30.660 melissadiner: Jim. 1152 01:59:30.990 --> 01:59:32.310 melissadiner: Yes, staff at all. 1153 01:59:32.550 --> 01:59:35.010 melissadiner: Yes, I bought, yes, the leaks. 1154 01:59:35.070 --> 01:59:36.300 melissadiner: Yes, vicki. 1155 01:59:36.570 --> 01:59:37.740 melissadiner: Yes, tema. 1156 01:59:39.480 --> 01:59:41.220 Sima Kostovetsky: Let me think about it ya. 1157 01:59:41.820 --> 01:59:43.380 Alley Bean: Ali yes. 1158 01:59:43.440 --> 01:59:44.760 Chie Lunn: hi yes. 1159 01:59:44.880 --> 01:59:46.800 Mike Bravo: Mike bravo yes. 1160 01:59:47.310 --> 01:59:49.440 ElizabethClay: clay, yes, absolutely. 1161 01:59:50.700 --> 01:59:51.210 Soledad Ursua: Yes. 1162 01:59:51.480 --> 01:59:52.200 melissadiner: James job. 1163 01:59:53.040 --> 01:59:55.680 jim robb: i'm having a party at James beach chapter, and I say yes. 1164 01:59:56.130 --> 01:59:57.210 melissadiner: NICO Berman. 1165 01:59:58.440 --> 01:59:59.280 Nico Ruderman: Yes, I can't wait. 1166 01:59:59.640 --> 02:00:01.020 clark brown: Clark yes. 1167 02:00:02.400 --> 02:00:03.090 robertthibodeau: Yes. 1168 02:00:03.270 --> 02:00:03.690 melissadiner: or no. 1169 02:00:04.500 --> 02:00:04.740 Yes. 1170 02:00:06.300 --> 02:00:07.440 Andrea Boccaletti: No yes. 1171 02:00:08.490 --> 02:00:08.970 melissadiner: Yes. 1172 02:00:09.270 --> 02:00:10.710 melissadiner: Yes, thank you cj. 1173 02:00:11.040 --> 02:00:11.730 Yes. 1174 02:00:13.230 --> 02:00:13.620 melissadiner: Great. 1175 02:00:15.330 --> 02:00:18.660 Sima Kostovetsky: need help from you guys just a warning or Thank you. 1176 02:00:19.140 --> 02:00:20.640 james murez: Melissa what's the vote on that. 1177 02:00:21.300 --> 02:00:23.070 melissadiner: Unanimous 18 00. 1178 02:00:23.460 --> 02:00:26.010 james murez: Thank you, let me remind everybody there's not. 1179 02:00:26.010 --> 02:00:36.120 james murez: supposed to be any talking during votes so Jim, although I would, I will be happy to see you at James beach after the the event. 1180 02:00:36.720 --> 02:00:54.420 james murez: We can't make those kinds of comments during the middle of a boat that goes for everybody we're voting it's yes, no abstain, we got to keep going we got to keep it above board um next item is john read here I don't see him, he was going to be making this presentation. 1181 02:00:55.980 --> 02:00:56.310 james murez: um. 1182 02:00:56.460 --> 02:00:58.410 Daffodil Tyminski: I do not see him either. 1183 02:00:58.830 --> 02:01:03.210 james murez: let's come back to this one, I will text him quickly because he did say he was going to do it. 1184 02:01:03.210 --> 02:01:05.610 Alix: I can text him Jim while you're while you're doing it. 1185 02:01:05.670 --> 02:01:06.840 james murez: Okay, thank you ollie. 1186 02:01:06.900 --> 02:01:07.350 Alix: you're welcome. 1187 02:01:07.770 --> 02:01:08.370 um. 1188 02:01:10.860 --> 02:01:13.470 james murez: So the next is also a rack motion. 1189 02:01:15.600 --> 02:01:16.650 james murez: daffodil do you want to. 1190 02:01:18.330 --> 02:01:19.410 james murez: Go ahead and read this one. 1191 02:01:20.370 --> 02:01:29.010 Daffodil Tyminski: tour um this is on the empty camping ordinance regarding Council file 21 dash 0929. 1192 02:01:29.910 --> 02:01:36.510 Daffodil Tyminski: um the motion is the Venice neighborhood Council supports the proposed resolution for the city council. 1193 02:01:37.020 --> 02:01:53.040 Daffodil Tyminski: To prohibit sitting lying sleeping or storing using maintaining or placing personal property inner upon any street sidewalk or other public rights away within a radius of 500 feet from all schools listed in attachment a to the Council file. 1194 02:01:54.120 --> 02:02:03.390 Daffodil Tyminski: And further upon adoption or the resolution for the city council to direct the Department of Transportation to post signs giving notice of the restrictions in the radius specified. 1195 02:02:04.560 --> 02:02:20.340 Daffodil Tyminski: Venice neighborhood Council also request that the definition of radius be clarified to specify a radius of 500 feet from the exterior boundary lines of the schools, listen to attachment a to the Council file and then we have an attachment that represents the West side. 1196 02:02:22.380 --> 02:02:23.820 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, I will make the motion. 1197 02:02:24.570 --> 02:02:25.920 james murez: You did make the motion. 1198 02:02:26.130 --> 02:02:27.750 Daffodil Tyminski: I will i'm making it yes. 1199 02:02:28.140 --> 02:02:28.950 Andrea Boccaletti: A little second to. 1200 02:02:29.400 --> 02:02:36.090 james murez: Thank you undress um OK now let's open this up for public comment, do we have any hands looks like we have two hands. 1201 02:02:37.800 --> 02:02:39.330 Daffodil Tyminski: three. 1202 02:02:40.020 --> 02:02:41.700 james murez: Three hands forehands. 1203 02:02:42.480 --> 02:02:45.330 Daffodil Tyminski: way Sean why don't you go first. 1204 02:02:45.450 --> 02:02:46.050 james murez: i've had. 1205 02:02:46.200 --> 02:02:47.670 Daffodil Tyminski: Let me see if I can. 1206 02:02:48.840 --> 02:02:49.800 Daffodil Tyminski: see why john. 1207 02:02:50.040 --> 02:02:51.330 Daffodil Tyminski: what's the time. 1208 02:02:51.900 --> 02:02:54.120 james murez: what's he doing let's ended after Yolanda. 1209 02:02:59.070 --> 02:02:59.760 james murez: whose first. 1210 02:03:01.710 --> 02:03:04.440 Daffodil Tyminski: letter let that shine his hand raise for shine go ahead. 1211 02:03:04.710 --> 02:03:13.230 sean obrien: Okay, thanks guys yeah i'll be i'll be brief, just support the motion of its weak, but you know every little baby steps you know every little bit, we can get. 1212 02:03:13.530 --> 02:03:23.370 sean obrien: You know, Venice is a containment zone um one thing I did want to say is like don't listen to the activists well you notice MacArthur park got cleaned up there was no news. 1213 02:03:23.820 --> 02:03:30.840 sean obrien: No news no problems, hardly any activity showed up they target Venice but That said, I support the motion thanks guys. 1214 02:03:32.400 --> 02:03:33.480 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks so much on. 1215 02:03:34.710 --> 02:03:38.460 Daffodil Tyminski: And okay Lisa why don't you go ahead. 1216 02:03:43.320 --> 02:03:43.800 Daffodil Tyminski: Lisa. 1217 02:03:44.640 --> 02:03:50.520 Lisa Redmond: I didn't know is unmuted hi I am against this motion, first of all i'm very much against. 1218 02:03:52.230 --> 02:03:54.960 Lisa Redmond: It will be found unconstitutional, as the last time. 1219 02:03:55.980 --> 02:04:06.960 Lisa Redmond: got past but it's i'm against it i'm against pretty much every rack motion to begin with it's wrong there is no we can't support this because there's no good. 1220 02:04:08.640 --> 02:04:16.110 Lisa Redmond: Housing plan in place for people to go, people are supposed to be offered housing before they can be found through city council. 1221 02:04:17.070 --> 02:04:27.120 Lisa Redmond: To get rid of these encampments but there's nothing in place so there's no housing to put people in, so I think it's wrong to start removing people. 1222 02:04:27.810 --> 02:04:43.530 Lisa Redmond: When there's no place for them to go all we're doing is just shuffling people around away from the services away from the outreach service people that know where they're at and are working to find them housing, so I know i'm speaking into avoid here, but please vote no. 1223 02:04:45.120 --> 02:04:50.910 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you Lisa i'm gonna say go ahead. 1224 02:04:52.920 --> 02:04:53.550 Darryl DuFay: Thank you. 1225 02:04:54.750 --> 02:05:14.370 Darryl DuFay: I am concerned about the description here, first of all, I support it because it's it's focusing on schools that it says listed in attachment a list of schools and then you also have a Venice site file to 5510. 1226 02:05:16.260 --> 02:05:24.930 Darryl DuFay: But the attachments and i'm reading doesn't have any public schools in it, it has private schools charter schools. 1227 02:05:25.380 --> 02:05:43.530 Darryl DuFay: child care, libraries and public parks missing our then inside scoop Mark Twain middle school walnut grove elementary broadway elementary Westminster avenue elementary currently an avenue and West side global awareness magnet. 1228 02:05:45.090 --> 02:06:04.620 Darryl DuFay: Maybe i'm reading something wrong or that the list that you put there to 5510 is not attachment a but I assume that that's what you're referring to, so there is a great missing of the public schools, if this has to do with schools. 1229 02:06:05.820 --> 02:06:06.750 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you Darrell. 1230 02:06:08.490 --> 02:06:12.660 Daffodil Tyminski: M and our last speaker Yolanda Gonzales go ahead Yolanda. 1231 02:06:13.920 --> 02:06:24.540 Yolanda Gonzalez: Yes, I am and supported this motion, most of you just stick to this side and we never seem to get anything done they're already doing it on the east side. 1232 02:06:25.230 --> 02:06:37.170 Yolanda Gonzalez: In Elsa no they removed encampments they house people, and not only that they have fenced the medium of Huntington avenue. 1233 02:06:38.070 --> 02:06:45.930 Yolanda Gonzalez: Because they were going in robbing getting into the supermarkets and just walking out with items. 1234 02:06:46.320 --> 02:06:55.890 Yolanda Gonzalez: I am very much in favor, we need to all work together to stop what is going on and make sure that City Council does the proper thing. 1235 02:06:56.190 --> 02:07:05.700 Yolanda Gonzalez: they're doing it somewhere else, like in MacArthur Park, as well as other parts of the city and we all need to work together, enough of this robbing enough of this attack. 1236 02:07:06.030 --> 02:07:15.300 Yolanda Gonzalez: My friends have been robbed from the chains off their neck, it is just getting so bad, because we have a mental issue, but these people are getting served. 1237 02:07:17.850 --> 02:07:18.480 Yolanda Gonzalez: Thanks great. 1238 02:07:18.570 --> 02:07:19.980 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you so much, Elena. 1239 02:07:20.760 --> 02:07:22.680 Daffodil Tyminski: And with that we'll close public comment and. 1240 02:07:22.680 --> 02:07:23.400 james murez: go to court. 1241 02:07:23.850 --> 02:07:25.980 james murez: Thank you definitely know i'm. 1242 02:07:27.690 --> 02:07:29.460 james murez: Clark, you have your hand up first. 1243 02:07:30.390 --> 02:07:36.780 clark brown: yeah I had a question and a comment, the question is why doesn't this motion also apply. 1244 02:07:37.530 --> 02:07:45.450 clark brown: To the thousand foot radius around your facilities that serve the homeless, like a bridge home, why is this only the 500 foot. 1245 02:07:45.990 --> 02:08:02.640 clark brown: radius that applies to school so that's a question I wanted to respond to a comment that Lisa made that housing is not available for these people that's not correct in a couple months ago the mayor's office filed in to touch Carter and case a. 1246 02:08:03.660 --> 02:08:08.790 clark brown: spreadsheet which listed 90 over 9600 beds that were available for the homeless. 1247 02:08:11.100 --> 02:08:11.790 james murez: Thank you Claire. 1248 02:08:12.870 --> 02:08:14.160 james murez: vicki go ahead, please. 1249 02:08:17.370 --> 02:08:32.880 Vicki Halliday: Have the first to answer Darrell question Darrell in the original motion for by rack and to the city um la USD did a blanket list of every one of their their schools. 1250 02:08:33.570 --> 02:08:46.620 Vicki Halliday: Ours was a supplemental list that we we compile to private schools and things that la USD did not cover i'm to clark's question um. 1251 02:08:47.640 --> 02:08:51.060 Vicki Halliday: No i'm just gonna leave it at that, I just wanted to answer Darrell question. 1252 02:08:51.270 --> 02:08:51.960 james murez: Thank you baby. 1253 02:08:52.650 --> 02:08:53.670 james murez: NICO go ahead, please. 1254 02:08:55.860 --> 02:09:00.390 Nico Ruderman: Sure, I guess i'd like to start off asking you vicki so just to clarify. 1255 02:09:02.520 --> 02:09:05.880 Nico Ruderman: public schools are already covered, but by this was just like a supplements. 1256 02:09:06.330 --> 02:09:06.780 Vicki Halliday: This was. 1257 02:09:07.950 --> 02:09:12.360 Vicki Halliday: All schools recovered because la USD had already done there. 1258 02:09:13.890 --> 02:09:20.340 Vicki Halliday: And so we had to do the supplemental buy a dress because it wasn't covered in the La USD list. 1259 02:09:22.170 --> 02:09:24.000 Vicki Halliday: So that the attachment. 1260 02:09:25.260 --> 02:09:26.040 james murez: Is it is it. 1261 02:09:26.070 --> 02:09:27.840 james murez: Great well, thank you for clarifying. 1262 02:09:29.100 --> 02:09:36.900 Nico Ruderman: yeah no I mean that I had that question for my comments, because my comment was going to vary, based on the answer to that, so I feel that all school should be covered. 1263 02:09:36.990 --> 02:09:46.830 Nico Ruderman: yeah and it, you know, this is something that's very important to me, I think that's um you know I wish I went further to actually cover core doors to schools. 1264 02:09:47.310 --> 02:09:56.820 Nico Ruderman: So kids actually had safe passage to schools, not just not just a safe boundary around them, but I think this is a I think this is a good start, and I strongly strongly support this. 1265 02:09:57.720 --> 02:09:58.470 james murez: Thank you, Nicole. 1266 02:09:59.820 --> 02:10:00.660 james murez: Andre please. 1267 02:10:02.730 --> 02:10:11.340 Andrea Boccaletti: Yes, I mean I I believe it's time to start enforcing the laws, I mean I I also know, I thought the law meant that she couldn't. 1268 02:10:13.020 --> 02:10:23.550 Andrea Boccaletti: block any sideways anywhere in the city so i'm hope everyone will vote yes for this and it's time to really start enforcing these laws, and one thing I can understand is if the military can. 1269 02:10:24.270 --> 02:10:38.730 Andrea Boccaletti: build the base out in the middle of nowhere in the course of you know, a week or two weeks for all of our troops that can we can't do the same thing for the homeless, instead of proposing these mega hundred and $30 million shelters, right here in our neighborhood enough's enough. 1270 02:10:39.330 --> 02:10:45.540 james murez: Thank you Clark you put your hand back up a second time, do you want to speak, one more time we don't usually do that but, but do you have something. 1271 02:10:47.550 --> 02:11:01.110 clark brown: Right now there's an rv that has been parked for some time, behind the Westminster elementary school on on Main Street and it's created real problems for everybody who participates in that school, to the extent, where the school had to erect. 1272 02:11:01.950 --> 02:11:13.410 clark brown: blinds across it's it's fence, so the people from the rv couldn't look into the school and create problems, so this is something I think that's very necessary. 1273 02:11:14.040 --> 02:11:14.790 james murez: Thank you Clark. 1274 02:11:15.210 --> 02:11:19.620 james murez: Okay i'm Melissa I don't see more hands let's take a boat. 1275 02:11:24.300 --> 02:11:24.840 james murez: Yes. 1276 02:11:25.020 --> 02:11:27.990 melissadiner: daffodil yes, I vote yes, the leaks. 1277 02:11:29.160 --> 02:11:30.000 Alix: Yes. 1278 02:11:30.060 --> 02:11:31.380 Vicki Halliday: vicki yes. 1279 02:11:31.410 --> 02:11:32.010 Vima. 1280 02:11:33.750 --> 02:11:34.050 Sima Kostovetsky: ya. 1281 02:11:34.380 --> 02:11:35.880 Alley Bean: Ali yes. 1282 02:11:36.030 --> 02:11:39.210 Mike Bravo: hi yes, I know. 1283 02:11:41.370 --> 02:11:42.240 melissadiner: Moses play. 1284 02:11:42.960 --> 02:11:43.590 Yes. 1285 02:11:44.760 --> 02:11:45.450 Soledad Ursua: Yes. 1286 02:11:46.290 --> 02:11:47.190 James rob. 1287 02:11:55.410 --> 02:11:55.890 melissadiner: Clark. 1288 02:11:56.220 --> 02:11:58.500 robertthibodeau: Yes, yes. 1289 02:11:58.620 --> 02:11:59.190 melissadiner: or no. 1290 02:12:01.560 --> 02:12:02.220 Andrea Boccaletti: Yes. 1291 02:12:02.400 --> 02:12:05.220 CJ Cole: And cj yes okay. 1292 02:12:05.250 --> 02:12:07.440 melissadiner: So it's 17 01. 1293 02:12:10.650 --> 02:12:16.770 james murez: Okay um, we have to take a 10 second interruption a leak, do you want me to present this next item. 1294 02:12:18.330 --> 02:12:19.170 Alix: here for Jim. 1295 02:12:19.800 --> 02:12:23.610 james murez: Okay, so devil, I have to pass you the gavel. 1296 02:12:24.840 --> 02:12:26.730 james murez: For the item. 1297 02:12:27.960 --> 02:12:31.230 1212 be. 1298 02:12:33.210 --> 02:12:33.720 james murez: Okay. 1299 02:12:35.790 --> 02:12:36.330 Daffodil Tyminski: Yes. 1300 02:12:36.570 --> 02:12:43.680 james murez: yeah i'm gonna i'm going to be making this motion of the motion, the westside regional alliance of Councils request the city of. 1301 02:12:44.130 --> 02:13:01.800 james murez: The city council direct city attorney Mike you're to provide a legal opinion as to whether or not city planning department and commissions have the legal right under state and city laws and ordinances to consider the financial interest of the developer. 1302 02:13:01.950 --> 02:13:04.800 james murez: When considering entitlements. 1303 02:13:05.250 --> 02:13:07.410 Alix: i'm setting that Jim it's a lakes. 1304 02:13:07.950 --> 02:13:09.570 james murez: it's not Jim you got to talk to death. 1305 02:13:09.960 --> 02:13:11.040 Alix: Death i'm second thing. 1306 02:13:13.050 --> 02:13:21.210 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay um so let's go to public comment first, if you have public comment, please put raise your hand now. 1307 02:13:23.760 --> 02:13:27.330 Daffodil Tyminski: It should bump you up you see how and Lisa anybody else Yolanda. 1308 02:13:30.180 --> 02:13:35.430 Daffodil Tyminski: anyone else alright so we're gonna close Yolanda want to start talking will close the shona. 1309 02:13:35.430 --> 02:13:37.500 Daffodil Tyminski: Brian go ahead Yolanda. 1310 02:13:39.240 --> 02:13:45.420 Yolanda Gonzalez: Yes, I would like a better explanation on this, we are in a drought. 1311 02:13:46.560 --> 02:13:49.050 Yolanda Gonzalez: We are being restricted already water. 1312 02:13:50.100 --> 02:13:53.370 Yolanda Gonzalez: In other cities, they are restricting the usage of water. 1313 02:13:54.870 --> 02:13:58.830 Yolanda Gonzalez: I want to know how's the city going to execute. 1314 02:14:00.150 --> 02:14:15.360 Yolanda Gonzalez: The fact that we're building, but there is no concentration on how much water are we going to be receiving or are we going to be the ones that are be going to cut off water, we already have a mandate on flood insurance i'm waiting for the flood to come through. 1315 02:14:16.590 --> 02:14:24.630 Yolanda Gonzalez: I just want an explanation of how is this going to take place, how the city is going to accomplish this Thank you. 1316 02:14:25.290 --> 02:14:26.160 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Yolanda. 1317 02:14:27.990 --> 02:14:30.630 Daffodil Tyminski: And Helen why don't you go next. 1318 02:14:33.690 --> 02:14:42.990 Helen Fallon: um I just would like to point out that all this is asking the city attorney to provide a legal opinion so I don't think it has to be a whole lot of debate. 1319 02:14:43.530 --> 02:14:51.150 Helen Fallon: acid is concerned about this what's your from the city attorney and goes legal opinion because apparently he's an assignment on this issue. 1320 02:14:54.180 --> 02:14:54.510 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you. 1321 02:14:59.700 --> 02:15:00.930 Daffodil Tyminski: Lisa redmond go ahead. 1322 02:15:03.720 --> 02:15:08.490 Lisa Redmond: i'm against this motion it's a rack motion i'm also against it because of who else has passed it. 1323 02:15:08.850 --> 02:15:14.400 Lisa Redmond: Well, I know it's not a good thing if the city attorney wanted to make a. 1324 02:15:15.420 --> 02:15:18.300 Lisa Redmond: Recommendation he or maybe she. 1325 02:15:20.580 --> 02:15:22.080 Lisa Redmond: In the future, would do the soap. 1326 02:15:23.670 --> 02:15:27.840 Lisa Redmond: And, as it stands now, no i'm against it, so please vote no. 1327 02:15:29.250 --> 02:15:30.000 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Lisa. 1328 02:15:31.470 --> 02:15:37.830 Daffodil Tyminski: And our last speaker and then we're closing public comment is shauna Brian i'm Sean go ahead. 1329 02:15:39.540 --> 02:15:45.540 sean obrien: Go me the money show me the money follow the money baby that's it, I support the motion. 1330 02:15:49.080 --> 02:15:49.680 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Sean. 1331 02:15:50.010 --> 02:15:50.400 sean obrien: Thank you. 1332 02:15:52.200 --> 02:15:57.540 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay we're closing public comment and now let's go to the board if anyone on the Board has. 1333 02:15:59.430 --> 02:16:03.840 Daffodil Tyminski: comment raise your hand and ELISE I see you have your henry's anyone else. 1334 02:16:05.490 --> 02:16:06.570 Daffodil Tyminski: Alright ELISE God. 1335 02:16:07.200 --> 02:16:12.090 Alix: And so quickly to Helens point, this is basically just asking the city attorney to. 1336 02:16:13.410 --> 02:16:20.760 Alix: write a legal opinion on something and to launch this point about water for those of you that did not see Gavin newsom just declared state of drought for. 1337 02:16:23.220 --> 02:16:26.310 Alix: very real issues that we should address and think about as we. 1338 02:16:26.970 --> 02:16:28.740 Alix: Look at our building in our district. 1339 02:16:30.330 --> 02:16:30.840 Daffodil Tyminski: Thankfully. 1340 02:16:31.980 --> 02:16:32.100 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm. 1341 02:16:33.810 --> 02:16:39.210 Daffodil Tyminski: sorry about that Jimmy well Jim I let you go last i'm solid why don't you go next. 1342 02:16:39.780 --> 02:16:42.210 Soledad Ursua: I was wondering if you guys could kind of explain. 1343 02:16:42.900 --> 02:16:54.840 Soledad Ursua: Just what the legal opinion would really do it seems a little confusing on On one hand I just get worried that an extra legal opinion kind of holding up development so just trying to figure out, you know where people were going with this. 1344 02:16:57.570 --> 02:16:59.460 Soledad Ursua: So we just better experimentation. 1345 02:16:59.820 --> 02:17:00.360 um. 1346 02:17:01.920 --> 02:17:07.590 Daffodil Tyminski: Why don't we take all the comments and then the makers of the motion can respond i'm Melissa what are you going to. 1347 02:17:10.680 --> 02:17:28.170 melissadiner: Oh, I just wanted to say that Jay handle with somebody that used to spend a lot of rv MC meetings and drinks afterwards that how he's been on the budget advocates forever he is all about what that public comment just said, show me the money and tracking your money so. 1348 02:17:29.790 --> 02:17:41.460 melissadiner: I imagine that he was proposing this with you know, to get more information to get to the bottom of that is that was always something he came and spoke to us about and we keep us in the loop on so. 1349 02:17:42.150 --> 02:17:48.720 melissadiner: It doesn't sound like it's a bad thing to get clarification on conflicting laws at the city state and. 1350 02:17:49.770 --> 02:17:51.090 melissadiner: The city and state level. 1351 02:17:53.580 --> 02:17:56.280 Daffodil Tyminski: awesome and Jim why don't you go last. 1352 02:17:56.670 --> 02:18:07.500 james murez: Okay developers are being asked to provide financial information about their stability or about their ability to be able to do a project and and there's a. 1353 02:18:09.030 --> 02:18:19.710 james murez: fair number of developers that don't feel that it's the city's right, be able to ask a developer to open their bank account up and show them just how much money they have their. 1354 02:18:20.880 --> 02:18:22.530 james murez: You know it's it's. 1355 02:18:23.790 --> 02:18:28.230 james murez: Going across boundary lines if they're coming in, for a permit or for some sort of entitlement. 1356 02:18:28.740 --> 02:18:35.010 james murez: Why should they have to open their their tax return or whatever to to the planning department or whoever. 1357 02:18:35.310 --> 02:18:42.720 james murez: And all of a sudden, does that information, then become public record, because now it's been taken in but it's just a whole lot of Gray area that that. 1358 02:18:43.560 --> 02:18:54.960 james murez: You know, in my opinion, it makes sense let's just ask the city attorney for the legal opinion of whether or not what's being subjected to some of the developers is actually illegal. 1359 02:18:59.340 --> 02:19:01.230 Daffodil Tyminski: I have come on to this as well, but as the. 1360 02:19:02.400 --> 02:19:04.650 Daffodil Tyminski: current holder the gavel i'll abstain. 1361 02:19:06.480 --> 02:19:08.070 Daffodil Tyminski: Why don't we call the vote, Melissa. 1362 02:19:18.690 --> 02:19:19.290 Daffodil Tyminski: Melissa. 1363 02:19:21.930 --> 02:19:22.680 melissadiner: Myself Jim. 1364 02:19:23.340 --> 02:19:24.810 melissadiner: Yes, daffodil. 1365 02:19:25.350 --> 02:19:26.250 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm going to abstain. 1366 02:19:26.700 --> 02:19:27.690 melissadiner: I vote yes. 1367 02:19:29.310 --> 02:19:29.880 Alix: Yes. 1368 02:19:30.690 --> 02:19:31.380 melissadiner: I think he. 1369 02:19:31.590 --> 02:19:32.130 Yes. 1370 02:19:35.310 --> 02:19:36.000 Alley Bean: Yes. 1371 02:19:36.060 --> 02:19:37.530 Chie Lunn: hi yes. 1372 02:19:37.830 --> 02:19:39.210 Mike Bravo: Bravo, no. 1373 02:19:51.510 --> 02:19:53.580 melissadiner: I took Elizabeth right yes. 1374 02:19:55.320 --> 02:19:55.920 ElizabethClay: didn't call me. 1375 02:19:56.970 --> 02:19:58.440 melissadiner: Close with that, so I wanted to double check. 1376 02:19:59.130 --> 02:20:00.570 melissadiner: No, thank you. 1377 02:20:10.380 --> 02:20:10.830 Soledad Ursua: i'm. 1378 02:20:17.580 --> 02:20:18.330 melissadiner: James rob. 1379 02:20:24.810 --> 02:20:25.560 melissadiner: James rob. 1380 02:20:27.570 --> 02:20:28.020 james murez: Jim. 1381 02:20:28.440 --> 02:20:29.220 jim robb: What abstain. 1382 02:20:31.740 --> 02:20:32.370 melissadiner: Pico. 1383 02:20:33.660 --> 02:20:34.110 Nico Ruderman: Yes. 1384 02:20:36.360 --> 02:20:36.900 clark brown: Yes. 1385 02:20:37.170 --> 02:20:37.680 melissadiner: All right. 1386 02:20:37.980 --> 02:20:39.660 melissadiner: Yes or no. 1387 02:20:39.930 --> 02:20:41.610 melissadiner: Yes, Andrea. 1388 02:20:42.120 --> 02:20:43.680 melissadiner: Yes, and cj. 1389 02:20:44.070 --> 02:20:45.840 melissadiner: Yes, and Stan are you back. 1390 02:20:46.800 --> 02:20:48.000 Ansar Muhammad: Yes, i'm saying. 1391 02:20:48.360 --> 02:20:48.780 melissadiner: Thank you. 1392 02:20:51.630 --> 02:20:56.160 james murez: never know i'm not sure exactly how we pass gamble back now I did I don't know if you just comes back to the. 1393 02:20:57.150 --> 02:21:00.240 Daffodil Tyminski: gym i'm going to pass the gavel back to you and you take it from here. 1394 02:21:00.450 --> 02:21:04.620 james murez: Okay, thank you i'm not sure what the procedure is for that, and since. 1395 02:21:04.980 --> 02:21:05.940 Daffodil Tyminski: I think we just did it. 1396 02:21:06.270 --> 02:21:13.380 james murez: Okay, our parliamentarians not here tonight, see you know we always have questions Okay, so we did 12 see already, we are on to 12 D. 1397 02:21:15.300 --> 02:21:19.530 james murez: Can I get the whole thing on one page, you have to do you want to read that one. 1398 02:21:23.520 --> 02:21:31.140 Daffodil Tyminski: Can you scroll up just a little bit yep this is item 12 D, this is a rack motion little bit more. 1399 02:21:31.500 --> 02:21:32.460 james murez: You want more scroll. 1400 02:21:32.640 --> 02:21:35.580 Daffodil Tyminski: Oh, I guess, this is fine, I wanted to give what it was, but. 1401 02:21:35.940 --> 02:21:36.270 james murez: No, the. 1402 02:21:36.720 --> 02:21:37.860 Daffodil Tyminski: emotion that he. 1403 02:21:37.950 --> 02:21:38.670 james murez: hears the title. 1404 02:21:39.330 --> 02:21:47.370 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah, this is a request for Council members to cooperate with Member Councils regarding the designation of sites under Los Angeles municipal code section. 1405 02:21:50.640 --> 02:21:57.690 Daffodil Tyminski: The motion is that the Venice neighborhood Council urges Council members bonnen correct bratman and ridley Thomas. 1406 02:21:58.260 --> 02:22:11.580 Daffodil Tyminski: Council members representing rack Member Councils to consult as soon as possible with their respective rack Member councils for input as to the designation of sites within their district for enforcement pursuant to La MC section. 1407 02:22:13.680 --> 02:22:30.810 Daffodil Tyminski: See one dash four and 4118 D, including one schools daycare centers public parks and libraries, as defined in Los Angeles municipal code section one a 5.01 quote sensitive uses. 1408 02:22:34.830 --> 02:22:44.160 Daffodil Tyminski: To overpasses underpasses freeway ramps tunnels bridges pedestrian bridges subways washes spreading grounds and active railways. 1409 02:22:44.610 --> 02:23:07.530 Daffodil Tyminski: When public health safety or welfare is served by the prohibition as 4118 see two three designated facilities open after January 1 2018 that provide shelter slave see safe sleeping or safe parking the homeless persons or that service homeless services navigation centers that's under. 1410 02:23:10.170 --> 02:23:18.960 Daffodil Tyminski: And for any locations and public rights of way for which there is documentation of a quote particular and ongoing threat to public health or safety and quote. 1411 02:23:19.530 --> 02:23:28.440 Daffodil Tyminski: that's under 4118 see for no enforcement action shall be taken unless the individuals have been offered shelter and review have refused the offer. 1412 02:23:29.730 --> 02:23:37.110 Daffodil Tyminski: The Venice neighborhood Council further request that one Council members bring resolutions and Council pursuant to Los Angeles municipal code section. 1413 02:23:38.010 --> 02:23:47.190 Daffodil Tyminski: See one through four and 4118 D as soon as any sites meeting the requirements of such sub sections are identified to them by the respective rap Member Councils. 1414 02:23:47.610 --> 02:23:59.040 Daffodil Tyminski: And to the distance of the radius prohibitions set forth in such resolution selby as requested by the relevant rack Member Councils consistent with the distance set forth and such sub sections. 1415 02:24:00.600 --> 02:24:02.100 james murez: Thank you, do we hear a second. 1416 02:24:03.840 --> 02:24:04.560 Alley Bean: i'll second it. 1417 02:24:04.740 --> 02:24:04.980 clark brown: Like a. 1418 02:24:06.120 --> 02:24:07.440 james murez: Second, was alley. 1419 02:24:08.790 --> 02:24:10.620 james murez: um OK. 1420 02:24:11.490 --> 02:24:12.240 Daffodil Tyminski: I will comment. 1421 02:24:12.330 --> 02:24:14.070 james murez: let's take public comment now. 1422 02:24:14.970 --> 02:24:15.840 um. 1423 02:24:17.970 --> 02:24:21.120 Daffodil Tyminski: We have a few people on um. 1424 02:24:22.500 --> 02:24:24.090 Daffodil Tyminski: Why don't we start Margaret with you. 1425 02:24:25.440 --> 02:24:27.210 james murez: looks like the last one will be Lisa redmond. 1426 02:24:27.900 --> 02:24:29.190 Margaret Molloy: Thank you and. 1427 02:24:30.240 --> 02:24:41.070 Margaret Molloy: I think that this is all punitive it seems to be the mo of this Council and the city council and you need to give people options before you impose. 1428 02:24:41.520 --> 02:24:54.930 Margaret Molloy: These kind of punitive restrictions, so I don't see anybody, not one of you proposing where are the safe places to Camp to sleep to be safe to not be raped, I don't hear it, I never heard, I have never heard it. 1429 02:24:55.440 --> 02:25:05.430 Margaret Molloy: So where are they and what does it mean to say if they're offered housing abstractly, what are we talking about, on the other side of you know pomona. 1430 02:25:06.480 --> 02:25:17.460 Margaret Molloy: radius so start being proactive, these are Community Members a lot of them are multi generational families who've been displaced start finding solutions. 1431 02:25:18.030 --> 02:25:37.080 Margaret Molloy: within our community in the neighboring communities and then then maybe start you know looking for these restrictions you're putting the cart before the horse you're putting your pleasure or your privilege over people's very existence get it right, please vote no on this. 1432 02:25:38.010 --> 02:25:39.060 Daffodil Tyminski: So much for. 1433 02:25:40.740 --> 02:25:43.800 Daffodil Tyminski: China, Brian why don't you go next i'll get the timer going. 1434 02:25:44.820 --> 02:25:46.380 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you yep. 1435 02:25:46.470 --> 02:25:56.550 sean obrien: Oh yeah hi i'm green view because I know it's a long meeting support the motion of city council's already passed something similar again I wish I had more teeth. 1436 02:25:57.000 --> 02:26:12.120 sean obrien: um and just to rebut of the last comment you know we will take care of our people we can't take care of the country or the world's homeless, they can't all come here and expect beach housing, but thank you guys. 1437 02:26:14.010 --> 02:26:14.850 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you Sean. 1438 02:26:16.440 --> 02:26:18.930 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm rubbing your eyes, why don't you go next. 1439 02:26:21.330 --> 02:26:21.810 Robin Murez: hi. 1440 02:26:22.860 --> 02:26:43.830 Robin Murez: Lisa I know you care, and we all care, and I want to bring to your attention that it was what four or five years ago that Jim Jerez put up the suggestion that the hundreds of acres near lx could be used for emergency housing at very little cost to make safe. 1441 02:26:44.880 --> 02:26:58.440 Robin Murez: Housing available it since has been described by many people is there could be fema style there could be safe camping safe parking and it's only not done because our City Council member won't do it. 1442 02:26:58.770 --> 02:27:12.360 Robin Murez: it's there it's available, it would be completely humanitarian and safe, so please let's all including you Lisa please let's work toward having some safe solutions here thanks. 1443 02:27:13.170 --> 02:27:15.870 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks so much i'm Helen go ahead. 1444 02:27:18.060 --> 02:27:29.910 Helen Fallon: I just want to remind everyone that this 41 at 41 it was modified it was a compromise between people who wanted strict enforcement and the people who wanted no enforcement. 1445 02:27:30.270 --> 02:27:35.550 Helen Fallon: A compromise was to allow the city council members to designate the spaces. 1446 02:27:36.000 --> 02:27:51.720 Helen Fallon: Unfortunately, our Council person is refusing to do that he's delaying it other Council members have stepped forward and and designated the sites, the problem thing the problem sites, why are we being discriminated against because. 1447 02:27:52.260 --> 02:27:58.680 Helen Fallon: Mr bond and apparently doesn't believe in majority rule, I mean that thing was voted on it was aired properly. 1448 02:27:59.010 --> 02:28:07.290 Helen Fallon: There was a lot of input into it, and this was the compromise, so we should we deserve to have a councilman is going to represent the interests of the Community. 1449 02:28:07.950 --> 02:28:25.650 Helen Fallon: Not just ignore it, because he didn't get his way on this issue and I would also mentioned that the list that was prepared on the other, motion on should be probably added to to go along with this, you know when you're talking about what you're going to submit to the Council. 1450 02:28:25.980 --> 02:28:27.450 james murez: I hope you have a public Thank you. 1451 02:28:27.570 --> 02:28:28.380 james murez: Thank you know. 1452 02:28:28.800 --> 02:28:33.300 Daffodil Tyminski: thanks him Darrell you'll be our last public comment or go ahead, please. 1453 02:28:34.920 --> 02:28:35.340 Darryl DuFay: Thank you. 1454 02:28:36.390 --> 02:28:45.210 Darryl DuFay: I know this is a political document, because if you have bonding and his friend ramen were the two people that voted against it. 1455 02:28:45.930 --> 02:28:56.820 Darryl DuFay: And then you have rick ridley Thomas who date who take today to clarity will no longer attend any meetings of the city council or be on any committee. 1456 02:28:57.480 --> 02:29:14.130 Darryl DuFay: So it it's it seems to be an overwhelming that I guess, this is what you have to do in order to move something forward, and I would suggest that it would be, this is the right way to go about moving something forward, thank you. 1457 02:29:15.180 --> 02:29:15.960 Daffodil Tyminski: So much. 1458 02:29:17.100 --> 02:29:23.520 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, with that we're closing comment um anyone on the board, have any comments. 1459 02:29:26.310 --> 02:29:27.540 james murez: Andre go ahead, please. 1460 02:29:29.970 --> 02:29:32.280 Andrea Boccaletti: Yes, I hope I will vote yes for this. 1461 02:29:33.300 --> 02:29:44.370 Andrea Boccaletti: For Council person is neglecting all good ideas and neglecting the homeless and neglecting the stakeholders of Venice so enough is enough, thank you. 1462 02:29:44.850 --> 02:29:46.650 james murez: Thank you Clark go ahead, please. 1463 02:29:46.800 --> 02:29:50.970 clark brown: yeah with respect to these two parcels at La X on September 21. 1464 02:29:51.360 --> 02:30:04.080 clark brown: The executive director of La la Los Angeles world airports, sent a letter to the NGOs counterpart of the FAA said, please tell us if you were aware of any written regulations which would prohibit the city. 1465 02:30:04.350 --> 02:30:16.260 clark brown: from using these two parcels for palette housing, so that letter makes very clear that the city is not aware of such regulations and so these two processes, I think, will be shortly available. 1466 02:30:16.950 --> 02:30:37.260 clark brown: For relocating people from the homeless encampments your point I want to make is that about three weeks ago I emailed Lisa redmond this to page spreadsheet which the mayor's office filed on July 15th 2021 and the judge Carter case which identified. 1467 02:30:38.280 --> 02:30:51.780 clark brown: 909,633 beds, all within the city of Los Angeles, which are available for take care of taking care of the homeless people so we've got plenty of resources and. 1468 02:30:52.980 --> 02:30:54.480 clark brown: I support this motion. 1469 02:30:54.900 --> 02:30:57.030 james murez: Thank you Clark i'm. 1470 02:30:58.500 --> 02:30:58.800 james murez: Mike. 1471 02:30:59.250 --> 02:31:00.120 james murez: Mike go ahead. 1472 02:31:00.990 --> 02:31:08.160 Mike Bravo: yeah that's Why make it clear that you know 41 point 18 i'm i'm totally against that motion in general, so I can't support anything that even. 1473 02:31:08.910 --> 02:31:17.820 Mike Bravo: reinforces that just the way authorizes police powers to see employees and expands law enforcement powers like that I just not I can't. 1474 02:31:18.240 --> 02:31:26.310 Mike Bravo: support that and for all of you one of you who've been a part of the black lives matter had bumper stickers or science, this is totally against. 1475 02:31:27.300 --> 02:31:36.150 Mike Bravo: allow their principles and our tenants to so just fyi that's a major contradiction if you had your signs up and you've done the parades and all that stuff that's it. 1476 02:31:36.810 --> 02:31:38.430 james murez: Thank you Mike allie go ahead. 1477 02:31:38.970 --> 02:31:51.990 Alley Bean: um I mean I just sort of to answer Mike and Lisa my feeling is this is, this is the result of housing first it's a concept that is a wonderful concept in theory. 1478 02:31:52.410 --> 02:31:59.580 Alley Bean: But because of it all of the money is going towards new development we don't have any it's not offering any shelter and a transitional housing. 1479 02:32:00.120 --> 02:32:07.560 Alley Bean: And so, yes, we need beds Lisa we need beds Mike We need people housed period it's getting to be winter. 1480 02:32:07.920 --> 02:32:19.050 Alley Bean: We need people not dying on the streets, but we've been crippled and I feel like the city's not listening to us for alternatives so that's why people are voting for things like this, you know. 1481 02:32:19.500 --> 02:32:31.350 Alley Bean: And and it's an incredibly frustrating situation but that's where we are, because we have to get people off the streets and we can't just be waiting for new developments that cost too much way too much money. 1482 02:32:31.980 --> 02:32:46.200 Alley Bean: I mean the project here in La I mean in Venice is 750 to 92 $50,000 a unit that's insane so i'm frustrated and even though i'm with you guys on wanting people House I want a mouse now. 1483 02:32:46.770 --> 02:32:50.790 Alley Bean: And not and I housing first is blowing the whole thing to me all the money is going to the wrong place. 1484 02:32:51.720 --> 02:32:54.030 james murez: Thank you ellie elite go ahead, please. 1485 02:32:55.230 --> 02:33:05.670 Alix: I would echo alleys comments and just to like reinforce that to sit, excuse me, the statistic that we have five people a day dying on our streets. 1486 02:33:06.000 --> 02:33:14.730 Alix: And this has happened under our study this has happened under ridley Thomas this has happened under her Wesson yes, we have. 1487 02:33:15.390 --> 02:33:26.970 Alix: challenges with the police force, but that doesn't excuse five people dying on the streets per day, and so we are at a point where, unfortunately, we need to support motions like this. 1488 02:33:28.260 --> 02:33:30.240 james murez: Thank you, a leak NICO go ahead, please. 1489 02:33:31.770 --> 02:33:35.880 Nico Ruderman: yeah but first like to start off by I do understand mike's point. 1490 02:33:37.080 --> 02:33:38.760 Nico Ruderman: About about how this is. 1491 02:33:40.050 --> 02:33:48.360 Nico Ruderman: going to increase policing and law enforcement and and how that might affect minority communities, I guess. 1492 02:33:49.200 --> 02:33:59.610 Nico Ruderman: The bigger issue is, though, I feel like this will also force the city to offer people housing which they're not doing a lot of a lot of the time, and we need to get people off the streets. 1493 02:34:00.300 --> 02:34:07.590 Nico Ruderman: And even further this this will help protect keeping encampments and meth labs away from schools. 1494 02:34:08.460 --> 02:34:15.150 Nico Ruderman: You know I know of to two separate meth labs of imparts near near elementary schools and it's it's completely unacceptable. 1495 02:34:15.810 --> 02:34:25.860 Nico Ruderman: it's been a lot of crime, and we need to, we need to keep our children safe, you know our homeless population needs to be protected, but our children do too, so I, I support this motion. 1496 02:34:27.930 --> 02:34:35.520 james murez: Thank you i'm seeing no other board hands up Melissa let's take a vote. 1497 02:34:40.680 --> 02:34:42.060 melissadiner: Okay i'm Jim. 1498 02:34:42.390 --> 02:34:42.870 Yes. 1499 02:34:43.890 --> 02:34:44.610 melissadiner: daffodil. 1500 02:34:45.090 --> 02:34:47.340 melissadiner: Yes, yes, the leaks. 1501 02:34:47.490 --> 02:34:49.050 melissadiner: Yes, a key. 1502 02:34:49.440 --> 02:34:50.490 melissadiner: Give the ummah. 1503 02:34:51.300 --> 02:34:51.690 yeah. 1504 02:34:53.370 --> 02:34:53.910 melissadiner: Ali. 1505 02:34:54.210 --> 02:34:55.860 melissadiner: Yes, hi. 1506 02:34:56.910 --> 02:34:57.630 melissadiner: Like bravo. 1507 02:34:58.170 --> 02:34:58.530 Low. 1508 02:35:00.090 --> 02:35:00.420 melissadiner: play. 1509 02:35:03.030 --> 02:35:03.780 melissadiner: Solid I. 1510 02:35:04.140 --> 02:35:06.240 melissadiner: guess dreams rob. 1511 02:35:09.600 --> 02:35:10.080 jim robb: Yes. 1512 02:35:13.320 --> 02:35:13.710 Nico Ruderman: Yes. 1513 02:35:16.800 --> 02:35:18.060 clark brown: Clark yes. 1514 02:35:19.530 --> 02:35:20.130 melissadiner: Robert. 1515 02:35:20.550 --> 02:35:21.030 Yes. 1516 02:35:22.170 --> 02:35:22.620 Bruno Hernandez: Yes. 1517 02:35:24.870 --> 02:35:25.440 melissadiner: DJ. 1518 02:35:25.830 --> 02:35:27.540 melissadiner: Yes, Stan Muhammad. 1519 02:35:28.470 --> 02:35:28.920 know. 1520 02:35:32.820 --> 02:35:33.570 melissadiner: Stan here. 1521 02:35:36.120 --> 02:35:37.380 Daffodil Tyminski: He said no, no. 1522 02:36:06.450 --> 02:36:08.610 james murez: Melissa did we get a count on that. 1523 02:36:10.680 --> 02:36:11.220 melissadiner: yep. 1524 02:36:14.550 --> 02:36:16.170 melissadiner: it's 16 zero to. 1525 02:36:19.170 --> 02:36:22.260 james murez: 16 02 those two abstentions. 1526 02:36:23.760 --> 02:36:24.090 melissadiner: No. 1527 02:36:24.330 --> 02:36:26.160 james murez: No 16. 1528 02:36:26.220 --> 02:36:26.580 again. 1529 02:36:29.400 --> 02:36:31.290 james murez: It would be 16 to zero human. 1530 02:36:31.710 --> 02:36:33.240 melissadiner: Okay 16 to zero. 1531 02:36:33.420 --> 02:36:33.930 james murez: Thank you. 1532 02:36:35.280 --> 02:36:38.310 james murez: um okay let's move on 12 p. 1533 02:36:40.530 --> 02:36:41.370 james murez: daffodil you're up. 1534 02:36:45.000 --> 02:36:49.260 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay 12 years a request for revision of the proposed amendment to the done. 1535 02:36:50.430 --> 02:36:55.050 Daffodil Tyminski: I believe that's the Department of neighborhood empowerment code of conduct brought by Rack. 1536 02:36:56.550 --> 02:37:01.980 Daffodil Tyminski: Whereas the board of neighborhood Commissioners, let me just do it should I read the whole thing or I think just the. 1537 02:37:01.980 --> 02:37:02.430 Daffodil Tyminski: My thing. 1538 02:37:02.550 --> 02:37:04.230 james murez: I think, just the motion is fine. 1539 02:37:04.410 --> 02:37:15.810 Daffodil Tyminski: Right now, therefore, be it resolved that colon bonk that's the Bureau of neighborhood Councils is advised against approving the proposed amendments to the Code of Conduct in their current form. 1540 02:37:16.620 --> 02:37:23.760 Daffodil Tyminski: The Venice neighborhood Council request that the Department of neighborhood empowerment in consultation with an ad hoc group of neighborhood Council members. 1541 02:37:24.510 --> 02:37:34.860 Daffodil Tyminski: provides the proposed amendments to ensure they afford the board and committee members, adequate due process rather than granting the department sole discretion to immediately suspend a member. 1542 02:37:35.310 --> 02:37:47.040 Daffodil Tyminski: Based on an alleged violation of applicable rules that any amendments to the Code of Conduct must take into account varying degrees of conduct when considering suspension and appropriate penalties if warranted. 1543 02:37:48.060 --> 02:37:53.250 Daffodil Tyminski: The code of conduct shall require that the minimum correction necessary to address any issue be used. 1544 02:37:54.000 --> 02:37:59.940 Daffodil Tyminski: The workplace equity policy shall be incorporated into the proposed amendments to the city to the code of conduct. 1545 02:38:00.570 --> 02:38:12.540 Daffodil Tyminski: Only a formally adopted by the city prior to the neighborhood Council city department review process and in the alternative the Code of Conduct shall incorporate the city's workplace violence policy and guidelines. 1546 02:38:13.890 --> 02:38:14.670 james murez: Do I have a second. 1547 02:38:15.930 --> 02:38:16.560 Alix: i'll second. 1548 02:38:16.680 --> 02:38:22.560 james murez: leaks, thank you leaks, I just want to add in here for anybody that doesn't understand what this is about. 1549 02:38:23.850 --> 02:38:30.000 james murez: The city has a program right now that there actually is a hearing board. 1550 02:38:30.420 --> 02:38:47.760 james murez: And, and there are procedures for removing somebody from a board of a neighborhood Council and other board member of the neighborhood Council in in most cases was elected, and that pretty much citywide what this is doing is it's transferring the authority to be. 1551 02:38:47.760 --> 02:38:48.180 Soledad Ursua: able to. 1552 02:38:48.300 --> 02:39:01.050 james murez: Remove somebody from a board that was voted into office to the person this woman raquel that's in charge of the Department of Labor of empowerment, she will be able to otter sole discretion. 1553 02:39:01.590 --> 02:39:11.010 james murez: remove any board member or any committee Member from any neighborhood Council without any process without any form of due process or appeal process. 1554 02:39:11.610 --> 02:39:20.130 james murez: And she can suspend them are completely remove them so that's what this is about, I was at the meeting, where it was held, and on that note let's see if we have any public comment. 1555 02:39:22.110 --> 02:39:23.700 james murez: looks like we have three hands up. 1556 02:39:25.260 --> 02:39:27.150 james murez: For hands up five hands up. 1557 02:39:29.280 --> 02:39:32.970 james murez: Okay let's stop after Erica more definitely want to start. 1558 02:39:33.390 --> 02:39:35.730 Daffodil Tyminski: or Yolanda why don't you go first. 1559 02:39:37.020 --> 02:39:42.840 Yolanda Gonzalez: Yes, i'm very familiar with this motion this comes down from mijares i'm. 1560 02:39:44.220 --> 02:39:55.980 Yolanda Gonzalez: The President of the Council, and because they don't like in certain neighborhood Councils that where people got voted in they think they can just remove them, it was going to happen and suddenly to hunger. 1561 02:39:56.970 --> 02:40:07.950 Yolanda Gonzalez: This please do not vote vote no on this and all of a sudden, this is a political movement in order to take over the council's Thank you. 1562 02:40:08.910 --> 02:40:16.050 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks so much i'm Margaret why don't you go next and actually sorry, let me start timing this go ahead, Margaret. 1563 02:40:16.290 --> 02:40:29.640 Margaret Molloy: So I think, as you all know, the last meeting was that rages I filed a major complaint asking for removal of several Members people telling us to Fuck off people slamming elected officials. 1564 02:40:30.060 --> 02:40:38.580 Margaret Molloy: People giving a thumbs up to people who want to get rid of elected officials, I mean just the gamut so several people need to go. 1565 02:40:38.940 --> 02:40:48.900 Margaret Molloy: And I would absolutely support this motion because you guys are incapable of policing yourself, not one single person called anybody out for that behavior not one of. 1566 02:40:48.900 --> 02:41:03.060 Margaret Molloy: You multi you know years on these boards, not one of you, it was disgusting and you know I want several you gone in the same in the same breath and because there were more than one violation. 1567 02:41:04.500 --> 02:41:19.050 Margaret Molloy: And power like grievances won't deal with it, they only deal with one violation, so they sent me back my complaint suggested I file and empower la complaint based on these three separate issues I know it will be denied. 1568 02:41:20.070 --> 02:41:27.540 Margaret Molloy: grievance 100 from para la was several grievances in one meeting denied because you can only address one single grief and. 1569 02:41:27.540 --> 02:41:28.290 james murez: Thank you, Mario. 1570 02:41:30.300 --> 02:41:30.750 Margaret Molloy: away. 1571 02:41:31.920 --> 02:41:33.690 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm Helen found go ahead. 1572 02:41:37.530 --> 02:41:50.430 Helen Fallon: i've attended at least one meeting where we're cowbell try and explain the purpose of this issue here is allegations she could suspend somebody based on an allegation not based. 1573 02:41:50.430 --> 02:41:50.790 Helen Fallon: On a. 1574 02:41:50.880 --> 02:41:52.770 Helen Fallon: On proof or actual fact. 1575 02:41:53.940 --> 02:42:07.350 Helen Fallon: I believe that empower does have the right to step in and disciplines words that don't follow the rules, but there has to be factual basis for that not just someone's opinion that they didn't like the way somebody talked to them or. 1576 02:42:07.830 --> 02:42:17.400 Helen Fallon: You know that kind of thing, so I look at this as this is raquel BELTRAN trying to consolidate or power bank is an appointed group weighted by the mayor. 1577 02:42:17.820 --> 02:42:29.610 Helen Fallon: If you guys don't take a position on this and say you're opposed to this, it will be interpreted as you support recals consolidation of power, I don't believe that we need an Empress of empower. 1578 02:42:30.090 --> 02:42:48.570 Helen Fallon: We need a functional in john that supports the mcs and just support and does discipline and step in when people don't follow the rules violate you know robert's rules, the brown active cetera but allegations are not the basis for discipline it's just wrong. 1579 02:42:49.200 --> 02:42:49.710 james murez: Thank you. 1580 02:42:49.770 --> 02:42:50.550 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Helen. 1581 02:42:53.310 --> 02:42:56.850 Daffodil Tyminski: yo Yolanda why don't you go ahead, did you I don't think he spoke on this. 1582 02:42:57.180 --> 02:42:58.410 james murez: A lot Yolanda already spoke. 1583 02:42:58.500 --> 02:43:00.600 Daffodil Tyminski: She did okay Lisa redmond why don't you go ahead. 1584 02:43:02.880 --> 02:43:03.240 Lisa Redmond: i'll. 1585 02:43:04.260 --> 02:43:11.490 Lisa Redmond: yeah I really agree with Helen um this is, you know is is wrong as. 1586 02:43:13.290 --> 02:43:24.360 Lisa Redmond: There are a lot of big fish in a little pond in neighborhood Councils, including this Council itself, where a lot of people think that they're you know the president's kings dictators. 1587 02:43:24.720 --> 02:43:25.860 Lisa Redmond: of their little communities. 1588 02:43:26.160 --> 02:43:36.840 Lisa Redmond: And there are people in the West valley that very much should be removed, but based on an allegation is not the right way and where there's injustice for one there's injustice for all. 1589 02:43:38.280 --> 02:43:49.140 Lisa Redmond: So as much as I truly agree with Margaret with what happened last month was extremely egregious i'm i'm going to have to on a rare occasion support this. 1590 02:43:49.140 --> 02:44:01.380 Lisa Redmond: rack motion, and also the last mission my hand was up somehow it got put down, and it was really upsetting considering that many of the commenters addressed to me and I didn't get a chance to comment that's all. 1591 02:44:03.750 --> 02:44:04.590 james murez: Thank you Lisa. 1592 02:44:05.070 --> 02:44:08.640 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay Erica we're gonna close public comment with you go ahead. 1593 02:44:13.950 --> 02:44:14.460 Daffodil Tyminski: Erica. 1594 02:44:20.520 --> 02:44:20.880 Erica Moore: hi. 1595 02:44:21.000 --> 02:44:21.870 Erica Moore: sorry about that. 1596 02:44:22.350 --> 02:44:22.800 Daffodil Tyminski: No worries. 1597 02:44:23.460 --> 02:44:35.700 Erica Moore: Okay, so basically both Helen and Lisa so I was going on yep Helen was so sustained and then what Lisa said is absolutely true, and I feel margaret's pain, because. 1598 02:44:36.270 --> 02:44:46.500 Erica Moore: I definitely think that you can't police yourself is really the bottom line so it's kind of tricky but I absolutely believe in due process, I do not think one person. 1599 02:44:46.890 --> 02:44:53.370 Erica Moore: should be able to make these decisions based on allegations, I think I think a panel should be assessing the situation, I understand. 1600 02:44:53.850 --> 02:45:00.270 Erica Moore: The reasoning, to try to push things through faster, but I don't think that that makes sense it's not it's not reasonable and it's not equitable. 1601 02:45:00.780 --> 02:45:14.610 Erica Moore: So I really think that Helen and Lisa said it best and and Margaret but I absolutely understand why Margaret said what she said to so please do support that this does not go through, thank you. 1602 02:45:15.660 --> 02:45:16.440 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Erica. 1603 02:45:16.890 --> 02:45:17.700 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay let's take. 1604 02:45:17.760 --> 02:45:21.420 james murez: A look comment at this point soledad you were the first had your hand up. 1605 02:45:21.600 --> 02:45:22.560 Soledad Ursua: You gotta go. 1606 02:45:22.800 --> 02:45:33.630 Soledad Ursua: I am against done having more control over our new word Councils, but I just want to make sure how am I gonna vote to pose this would I vote against this motion rainbow know. 1607 02:45:35.820 --> 02:45:51.120 james murez: If you vote to support this motion, you will be voting to support the Rack motion, and then the Rack, in turn, if they get the nine supporting Councils will then send forward. 1608 02:45:51.450 --> 02:45:54.450 james murez: A united front message to the city. 1609 02:45:57.330 --> 02:45:57.540 Alley Bean: To the. 1610 02:45:57.900 --> 02:45:59.670 Soledad Ursua: Beginning yeah so. 1611 02:46:02.070 --> 02:46:02.700 Soledad Ursua: This isn't me. 1612 02:46:03.930 --> 02:46:04.350 Sima Kostovetsky: yeah. 1613 02:46:04.470 --> 02:46:24.000 james murez: We are again if you wanna if you want to support the Rack motion, which is to send the message No, this is not okay to the Department of neighborhood empowerment, you would say yes to this, which in turn rack is saying no it's not okay. 1614 02:46:25.170 --> 02:46:30.360 Soledad Ursua: Okay, so I will be voting yes to pose done having more control over the neighborhood Councils. 1615 02:46:30.390 --> 02:46:31.230 james murez: that's correct. 1616 02:46:31.320 --> 02:46:31.710 and 1617 02:46:34.170 --> 02:46:34.740 james murez: All week. 1618 02:46:36.180 --> 02:46:53.130 Alix: I cannot stress enough how important it is to support this motion for anyone who is not following what is going on at done, and with this code of conduct, I suggest you take some time to to read it is it, it is a terrible consolidation of power. 1619 02:46:54.180 --> 02:46:56.550 Alix: jack Humphrey ville I think is doing a lot of. 1620 02:46:56.850 --> 02:47:01.650 Alix: Reporting for see watch on going on at done and I think there's some investigations there. 1621 02:47:02.130 --> 02:47:14.340 Alix: I urge all of the board members to support this motion, I know it's a little unclear, the way it's written, but it is, it is essentially to not support the current done code of conduct so that's all. 1622 02:47:16.620 --> 02:47:18.060 james murez: Thank you Alice go ahead, please. 1623 02:47:18.420 --> 02:47:20.700 Alley Bean: um yeah, I just wanted to. 1624 02:47:22.170 --> 02:47:27.570 Alley Bean: To to I don't know what the word is, but like maybe encouraged Margaret and Lisa that there's a. 1625 02:47:28.170 --> 02:47:37.740 Alley Bean: Venice neighborhood Council email system, and there was a lot of apology and a lot of conversation about the conduct last week, I know you guys didn't get to hear it, but. 1626 02:47:38.280 --> 02:47:45.300 Alley Bean: A lot of people talked about it within the board, and I think Jim sort of addressed it at the beginning that we need to be more civil and. 1627 02:47:46.020 --> 02:47:56.280 Alley Bean: There was public not public apologies, because it was just amongst us, but I thought it might make you feel better to know that there was a lot of conversation in the emails about it, about what you were saying. 1628 02:47:57.180 --> 02:47:59.790 james murez: Thank you ellie i'm Mike go ahead. 1629 02:48:00.660 --> 02:48:07.350 Mike Bravo: yeah i'll probably support the Rack motion, but in my opinion, is come like a free for all because. 1630 02:48:08.940 --> 02:48:13.770 Mike Bravo: If you remember, ECHO park in 2015 when allowed the or get a community. 1631 02:48:14.880 --> 02:48:26.490 Mike Bravo: took the last seats against identification forces air, you know done via their power with other local council people they wouldn't they had no has a way and dismantle That said, they always find a way to make. 1632 02:48:27.660 --> 02:48:38.490 Mike Bravo: dismantle something if they really don't want it so that's what it kind of a given, and then we flash back to what like two years ago with matt Fisher to and even you know, is a brace of you know personality. 1633 02:48:40.140 --> 02:48:51.030 Mike Bravo: considered to what that happened it doesn't arbitrary removal him to so either way the way I see it, we're both kind of screwed either way we go so but i'll plan to support in Iraq motion. 1634 02:48:52.110 --> 02:48:54.480 james murez: Thank you Mike Clark go ahead. 1635 02:48:55.290 --> 02:49:04.560 clark brown: If I understand this motion correctly, it would require hearings and other procedures before action can be taken against an individual or. 1636 02:49:05.220 --> 02:49:15.000 clark brown: Having done something something wrong, the problem I have with this is that I think the interest at stake, of the individuals interested steak or not great enough. 1637 02:49:15.450 --> 02:49:27.900 clark brown: To justify these additional procedures, the problem with the additional procedures is that it focuses on procedure rather than focusing on substantive things that need to be done in the Community. 1638 02:49:28.380 --> 02:49:36.570 clark brown: it's kind of an internal thing rather than an external focus, so my understanding of this thing is correct i'm against it. 1639 02:49:38.820 --> 02:49:42.660 james murez: Thank you Clark i'm daffodil last but not least. 1640 02:49:43.020 --> 02:49:43.350 Oh. 1641 02:49:44.550 --> 02:49:53.190 Daffodil Tyminski: Well, I just you know I think we're all familiar with the phrase life, liberty, you know the the government shall not denies of life, liberty, or property right. 1642 02:49:53.970 --> 02:50:03.540 Daffodil Tyminski: What we never hear the end of that which is without due process of law that's our fifth amendment that comes out of the Magna Carta goes back to the 1215. 1643 02:50:03.990 --> 02:50:11.280 Daffodil Tyminski: You know, even the kings in England recognize that we needed some protection of process right so for people talking about kings and dictatorships. 1644 02:50:12.480 --> 02:50:19.530 Daffodil Tyminski: I just think it's absolutely fundamental for any fair governing body that there has to be due process. 1645 02:50:19.830 --> 02:50:31.380 Daffodil Tyminski: And if we have an election system where we're going to actually spend the time and money and effort to elect people, we have to have due process in whatever role we have in centering removing or. 1646 02:50:32.100 --> 02:50:48.120 Daffodil Tyminski: disciplining them, so I think for the city to to to take this move is just sort of it's it's some evidence of its complete disregard for the neighborhood Council system and for the role that we all play which I think is very important, even though we have no power. 1647 02:50:48.720 --> 02:50:51.300 Daffodil Tyminski: And I would urge people to vote against us because. 1648 02:50:51.300 --> 02:51:08.310 Daffodil Tyminski: I think this is the one thing when people talk about how great it is to be an American how people fight for our country and they fight for civil liberties, it is for this kind of system that people fight for and so I think, to vote against this would really just be a sad testament to. 1649 02:51:09.540 --> 02:51:11.010 Daffodil Tyminski: You know who we are, as Americans. 1650 02:51:13.860 --> 02:51:16.410 james murez: Thank you Danielle so just to be clear. 1651 02:51:18.420 --> 02:51:42.000 james murez: Yes vote would be supporting the Rack motion which sends the message to the city, no, we don't agree with the policies that you're proposing a no vote will send the message from rack to the city saying it's Okay, for them to impose this new. 1652 02:51:43.830 --> 02:51:44.640 james murez: way of acting. 1653 02:51:46.110 --> 02:51:47.850 james murez: Okay, Melissa let's take about. 1654 02:52:01.230 --> 02:52:02.070 james murez: Is Melissa here. 1655 02:52:05.430 --> 02:52:07.770 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah I think her mute is a little slow to unmute. 1656 02:52:09.210 --> 02:52:10.740 melissadiner: i'm here, Jim. 1657 02:52:10.830 --> 02:52:11.580 Yes. 1658 02:52:12.630 --> 02:52:13.200 Daffodil Tyminski: Yes. 1659 02:52:13.290 --> 02:52:14.820 melissadiner: I vote yes police. 1660 02:52:15.030 --> 02:52:16.140 melissadiner: Yes, ricky. 1661 02:52:16.410 --> 02:52:16.860 Yes. 1662 02:52:18.090 --> 02:52:18.630 Sima Kostovetsky: yeah. 1663 02:52:18.750 --> 02:52:20.130 Alley Bean: holly yes. 1664 02:52:20.190 --> 02:52:20.640 hi. 1665 02:52:23.400 --> 02:52:23.760 melissadiner: Okay. 1666 02:52:23.970 --> 02:52:25.410 melissadiner: Yes, like bravo. 1667 02:52:25.830 --> 02:52:27.270 melissadiner: Yes, so the clay. 1668 02:52:27.750 --> 02:52:28.380 Yes. 1669 02:52:29.400 --> 02:52:29.970 Soledad Ursua: Yes. 1670 02:52:30.180 --> 02:52:30.840 melissadiner: James rob. 1671 02:52:31.200 --> 02:52:32.460 jim robb: Yes, yes. 1672 02:52:33.990 --> 02:52:34.410 Nico Ruderman: Yes. 1673 02:52:34.710 --> 02:52:35.940 clark brown: Clark, though. 1674 02:52:38.250 --> 02:52:39.450 melissadiner: Roberts have it oh. 1675 02:52:39.750 --> 02:52:40.350 Yes. 1676 02:52:43.080 --> 02:52:43.590 melissadiner: or no. 1677 02:52:44.130 --> 02:52:45.420 melissadiner: Yes, Andrea. 1678 02:52:45.900 --> 02:52:47.520 melissadiner: Does cj. 1679 02:52:47.640 --> 02:52:50.610 melissadiner: Yes, Stan yes. 1680 02:52:53.670 --> 02:52:54.510 melissadiner: Last night. 1681 02:52:54.780 --> 02:52:57.840 melissadiner: or 18 one zero. 1682 02:52:58.950 --> 02:53:01.380 james murez: Thank you motion gary's. 1683 02:53:02.670 --> 02:53:05.190 james murez: Moving right along next one. 1684 02:53:08.100 --> 02:53:10.590 james murez: Definitely, you want to read this one i'm. 1685 02:53:11.370 --> 02:53:14.640 Daffodil Tyminski: sure this is 12 s. 1686 02:53:14.880 --> 02:53:26.370 Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, Okay, so this is emotion for Community impact statement and supportive Council file 21 dash 1115 to prohibit bicycle chop shops within the public right of way. 1687 02:53:28.140 --> 02:53:32.550 Daffodil Tyminski: This is a motion to file Community impact statement and supportive that Council file. 1688 02:53:33.000 --> 02:53:49.110 Daffodil Tyminski: That request the creation of a bicycle chop shop ordinance prohibiting assembly, disassembly sale offer sale distribution of bicycles and bike parts on public property or within the public right of way and, as many of you know we've heard this issue. 1689 02:53:49.800 --> 02:53:51.480 james murez: That was your motion, we need to second. 1690 02:53:53.580 --> 02:53:54.600 Alix: i'll second Italy. 1691 02:53:55.080 --> 02:53:56.700 james murez: Thank you go ahead def don't sorry. 1692 02:53:56.820 --> 02:54:06.180 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm sorry, as many of you know, this has been an issue that's come before the dnc for several years now, at multiple times and multiple motions. 1693 02:54:07.080 --> 02:54:17.220 Daffodil Tyminski: So this is nothing new, but it's now that the issue is coming back to cancel the request is that we now file a Community impact statement reflecting our previous decisions. 1694 02:54:18.570 --> 02:54:20.310 Daffodil Tyminski: So let's take some public comment. 1695 02:54:20.490 --> 02:54:21.030 james murez: Thank you. 1696 02:54:22.800 --> 02:54:27.750 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm lunch Lisa redmond go ahead. 1697 02:54:32.880 --> 02:54:43.950 Lisa Redmond: And, as I stated at the Ad COM meeting My problem with this is it's not gone through committee it's not an immediate urgency it's not scheduled for Council. 1698 02:54:44.490 --> 02:54:59.070 Lisa Redmond: At this time it definitely could go to committee i'm bothered by anything that's rushed to the actual board, without going through committee when there isn't a pressing urgent time need Thank you. 1699 02:55:00.210 --> 02:55:01.170 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks so much Lisa. 1700 02:55:01.230 --> 02:55:01.980 james murez: Thank you Lisa. 1701 02:55:02.970 --> 02:55:07.410 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm Yolanda why don't you go, we lost Yolanda there. 1702 02:55:07.470 --> 02:55:08.460 james murez: We lost you along. 1703 02:55:08.700 --> 02:55:10.350 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay Helen why don't you go next. 1704 02:55:13.980 --> 02:55:20.730 Helen Fallon: This was supported by this Council two years ago, the concept of doing something about bicycle chop shops. 1705 02:55:21.120 --> 02:55:29.250 Helen Fallon: You sent a letter to bond and a year ago, saying hey how about doing emotion about asking for an ordinance that would tackle this issue. 1706 02:55:29.700 --> 02:55:43.350 Helen Fallon: dead silence, we can hear the crickets they have finally gotten before the city council, a request emotion, to request that they consider adopting an ordinance that would address this criminal activity. 1707 02:55:43.650 --> 02:55:49.500 Helen Fallon: That is basically happening and homeless and countless those criminals are lighting among the homeless and. 1708 02:55:50.040 --> 02:55:56.520 Helen Fallon: it's outrageous I mean it's like the broken window syndrome, when you see piles of bicycles it doesn't criminalize the homeless. 1709 02:55:56.850 --> 02:56:04.110 Helen Fallon: It doesn't make like worse for them, it should make it better because you're actually removing some of these criminals use these. 1710 02:56:04.710 --> 02:56:18.480 Helen Fallon: encampments to hide out in and hide their criminal activities, I don't think I think this community is 100% in favor of it, I don't think you have very many people who say it's cool to see all these bikes being stolen stacked up under tarps. 1711 02:56:18.600 --> 02:56:19.290 james murez: Thank you over. 1712 02:56:19.320 --> 02:56:20.520 Helen Fallon: Our city streets. 1713 02:56:20.640 --> 02:56:21.060 james murez: Thank you. 1714 02:56:23.550 --> 02:56:24.780 Daffodil Tyminski: Erica more go ahead. 1715 02:56:27.630 --> 02:56:31.380 Erica Moore: hi I absolutely am in supportive this. 1716 02:56:33.120 --> 02:56:35.640 Erica Moore: i've been a witness to all sides of it. 1717 02:56:36.450 --> 02:56:49.590 Erica Moore: So it absolutely for our Community I don't know anybody who's there's a lot of people getting their bike stolen, I mean it's it's calmed down right now, more than it was like a year ago, but it absolutely needs to be addressed and I hope you support it, thank you. 1718 02:56:51.450 --> 02:56:52.350 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Erica. 1719 02:56:54.360 --> 02:56:57.180 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay lydia ponce go ahead. 1720 02:56:59.280 --> 02:57:15.210 Lydia Ponce: So what does this say about lamps the bike whisper I mean this whole blanket thing the generalization hate the generalized heat that you have for other people being creative you know I understand about bicycles being stolen. 1721 02:57:16.230 --> 02:57:25.110 Lydia Ponce: being left in the yard being unattended and all of that i've witnessed everything that has happened with 1012 Bytes and such. 1722 02:57:25.500 --> 02:57:32.610 Lydia Ponce: it's called mental health issues it's called trauma it's called they can't explain it to themselves, how can they explain to anybody else. 1723 02:57:33.120 --> 02:57:42.510 Lydia Ponce: On the other side of it, I don't I vote no because it doesn't clarify someone who has a license for their business and who does occupy some of the public. 1724 02:57:43.050 --> 02:57:52.920 Lydia Ponce: walkway to conduct his business, and I think it's pretty shitty if you guys vote this through without considering him he's a great upstanding guy in the Community, thank you. 1725 02:57:54.750 --> 02:57:57.780 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks so much Sean o'brien go ahead. 1726 02:58:00.690 --> 02:58:22.170 sean obrien: As a 30 year Venice resident I probably at least 10 bike stolen I keep my nice bikes locked up in the House, keep ready cruiser in the garage of that last comment you know bikes aren't left on attended blocks are being cut and sawed through, I support the motion enough is enough. 1727 02:58:23.910 --> 02:58:31.740 sean obrien: God, there was a I think 10 1020 years ago they're supposed to be a sting operation going on at a more of the state or federal level. 1728 02:58:32.640 --> 02:58:43.470 sean obrien: Because they know the bike rings, are they still the bikes up here and train them for the bikes up North So there are a lot harder to find but anyways I digress support the motion thanks guys. 1729 02:58:44.670 --> 02:58:46.920 james murez: And then we'll close public comment now. 1730 02:58:47.310 --> 02:58:51.990 james murez: Yes, and let's move on to committee common NICO go ahead, please. 1731 02:58:53.460 --> 02:59:01.620 Nico Ruderman: yeah hi um I actually had the same concern as as video when I first heard this I was happy to hear her say that. 1732 02:59:02.550 --> 02:59:06.420 Nico Ruderman: You know i'm curious and I don't know if Helen can address this or somebody else who was involved as. 1733 02:59:06.420 --> 02:59:12.660 Nico Ruderman: Much How does this affect laughs and the by SWIFT bike whisper, who is a fixture of our Community no quit. 1734 02:59:13.650 --> 02:59:20.970 Nico Ruderman: You know, I strongly support this except right, you know somebody like him who who does operate and the public, out of his band. 1735 02:59:21.420 --> 02:59:29.100 Nico Ruderman: near the awkward REC Center and around the Community i'm curious how this how this affects them because you know it would be unacceptable for it to negatively affect him. 1736 02:59:30.330 --> 02:59:31.320 Nico Ruderman: So I don't know if anybody can. 1737 02:59:31.410 --> 02:59:34.860 james murez: address that question, thank you NICO um. 1738 02:59:37.650 --> 02:59:44.430 james murez: i'm just I put the motion back up on the screen, because I hate to have taken my bicycle over to the nice man bye oh quick park. 1739 02:59:45.990 --> 02:59:55.770 james murez: And he seems to know what he's doing so, it says here, request the creation of a bicycle chop shop coordinates what Would he be considered a chop shop. 1740 02:59:56.940 --> 02:59:59.280 Soledad Ursua: Business per man, he is a illegal business so. 1741 02:59:59.940 --> 03:00:02.700 james murez: He is he has a business license. 1742 03:00:02.760 --> 03:00:03.960 Alley Bean: that's not a chop shop. 1743 03:00:04.080 --> 03:00:04.530 james murez: Yes. 1744 03:00:04.620 --> 03:00:11.790 james murez: How to chop shop, so I think that that would probably disqualify him from falling into a category with this. 1745 03:00:12.600 --> 03:00:16.470 Nico Ruderman: Right my my concern have been distribution of bicycles and bike parts on. 1746 03:00:16.920 --> 03:00:21.420 Nico Ruderman: yeah with the property or within public right away, which he operates on a sidewalk Nero Nero could park. 1747 03:00:21.720 --> 03:00:25.590 james murez: So what if what if we added to this without a business license. 1748 03:00:28.080 --> 03:00:36.780 james murez: I mean, do we think that that would address it, I kind of think it probably would I mean I don't know that it not be in there, but a chop shop is is not something that's they don't license. 1749 03:00:36.780 --> 03:00:37.620 Nico Ruderman: Child he. 1750 03:00:37.980 --> 03:00:41.790 Nico Ruderman: He doesn't operate a top shot by any means, but my only concern with that last sentence for him. 1751 03:00:42.540 --> 03:00:52.080 Alix: Let me Boucher food trucks have licenses So this was going to say you added in a license right like if he has a license and he's authorized operate. 1752 03:00:53.580 --> 03:00:54.270 Alix: wouldn't that. 1753 03:00:54.660 --> 03:01:03.030 james murez: I I personally do not see the issue and I guess the the way to deal with this would be let's get this the Community impact statement into the city. 1754 03:01:03.330 --> 03:01:12.780 james murez: So we're on file and as it goes through the process of being heard in Council and and elsewhere let's just make sure that we raise our hand and and say that. 1755 03:01:13.260 --> 03:01:21.030 james murez: You know, a licensed business that did I mean you know most on Lincoln he has his bicycles out on the sidewalk sometimes but he's a store. 1756 03:01:21.390 --> 03:01:26.520 Soledad Ursua: So I just looked up the Council file, it says all of that do you want me to share my screen, I can. 1757 03:01:26.580 --> 03:01:30.600 james murez: Sure, please, by all means, if that'll clarify it for everybody, because I think everybody has the same. 1758 03:01:31.980 --> 03:01:33.810 james murez: Go ahead just click share there you go. 1759 03:01:34.440 --> 03:01:35.490 Soledad Ursua: So you can. 1760 03:01:35.730 --> 03:01:40.290 james murez: enlarge out of can you zoom on that at all the way up to the right of 100% plus. 1761 03:01:42.030 --> 03:01:42.600 james murez: There you go. 1762 03:01:42.840 --> 03:01:43.140 Soledad Ursua: and 1763 03:01:43.770 --> 03:01:45.360 james murez: keep going keep keep going. 1764 03:01:48.900 --> 03:01:49.290 Soledad Ursua: Okay. 1765 03:01:49.350 --> 03:01:52.320 Soledad Ursua: So, like right here, we see that. 1766 03:01:53.670 --> 03:02:03.990 Soledad Ursua: there's exemptions for licensed businesses and for individuals, making repairs, so I mean he wouldn't fall under that category, this is really trying to address illicit activity. 1767 03:02:06.210 --> 03:02:07.320 Soledad Ursua: Thank you for sharing that. 1768 03:02:07.770 --> 03:02:09.990 Nico Ruderman: Thank you, thank you for the clarification great. 1769 03:02:13.320 --> 03:02:14.640 james murez: oops wrong wrong button. 1770 03:02:15.660 --> 03:02:18.420 james murez: Okay um let me get back to. 1771 03:02:19.530 --> 03:02:21.690 james murez: Wait Am I still sharing. 1772 03:02:23.490 --> 03:02:23.940 No. 1773 03:02:25.290 --> 03:02:27.840 james murez: disappeared on me okay so Andre go ahead. 1774 03:02:28.830 --> 03:02:36.600 Andrea Boccaletti: Had the very same concern the bicycle was for is amazing he's a great guy but if emotion needs to be made to. 1775 03:02:38.580 --> 03:02:42.690 Andrea Boccaletti: exclude people that have a license I would make that motion so. 1776 03:02:43.230 --> 03:02:54.270 james murez: And I think it's already there so we're good with them um if anybody else has comments about the same problem I think we've resolved so they could put their hands down Clark go ahead, please. 1777 03:02:54.450 --> 03:03:00.330 clark brown: I have a question in the comment but I hate to ask this question what is a car, yes, what is a Community impact statement. 1778 03:03:00.720 --> 03:03:08.880 james murez: Oh okay so you're new to the city count to the neighborhood Council process Community impact statement is is the one mechanism that we have. 1779 03:03:09.300 --> 03:03:20.520 james murez: To actually address the city Los Angeles city council with a written document that whenever there's a Council file that's open you go to the Clerk system, you can find a Council file. 1780 03:03:22.080 --> 03:03:28.440 james murez: If a neighborhood Council has taken an opinion on a particular Council file item that's open. 1781 03:03:29.160 --> 03:03:43.890 james murez: The Community impact statement is the one thing that neighborhood councils are allowed to do it's it's a process of attaching a written opinion about the Council file for the neighborhood Councils, so if you read. 1782 03:03:45.540 --> 03:03:49.170 james murez: Chapter nine of the of the reformed city charter. 1783 03:03:50.940 --> 03:04:05.640 james murez: It was reported in 2000 it would describe in there, that a Community impact statement is one of the things it's actually the only thing that we really have any controller power over it allows us to stick an opinion on to the Council bottle. 1784 03:04:06.930 --> 03:04:25.440 clark brown: thanks for the education, I also had had a comment on this this measure strikes me and says quite narrow it doesn't apply to all drop shops, it only applies to unlicensed chop shops which are conducting their business on public property and in the absence of the owner of the bike. 1785 03:04:26.790 --> 03:04:30.480 clark brown: I think it's a narrow measure that that's appropriate. 1786 03:04:32.580 --> 03:04:33.150 james murez: Thank you Clark. 1787 03:04:34.410 --> 03:04:35.400 james murez: Mike you have your hand up. 1788 03:04:36.120 --> 03:04:40.200 Mike Bravo: yeah I think it's it's still it's to arbitrary, you know, like is. 1789 03:04:41.400 --> 03:04:48.510 Mike Bravo: Going the boardwalk there's people hard working people who sell bike lights and help people to assemble their bikes and get them hooked up or whatever. 1790 03:04:48.840 --> 03:04:54.120 Mike Bravo: there's different types of business, not just you know the light people but it's people like that just good as good. 1791 03:04:55.020 --> 03:04:57.570 Mike Bravo: know just general people on the boardwalk down out whatever trying to. 1792 03:04:58.020 --> 03:05:06.300 Mike Bravo: hook people up, so I think it doesn't really define what a chop shop is, and I think we kind of know like there's some people certain spots it like yeah like okay. 1793 03:05:07.020 --> 03:05:14.940 Mike Bravo: that's no good but as people were like this can be enforced arbitrarily and that's something we need to consider that's it's some because, like if i'm. 1794 03:05:15.600 --> 03:05:22.200 Mike Bravo: At the boardwalk and i'm talking to someone, and you know, a certain authority figure doesn't care for me or things I say. 1795 03:05:22.620 --> 03:05:33.960 Mike Bravo: Then they can kind of give someone a hard time from hanging out with someone who's might be doing the lights are in helping me with my bike fix my wheels or something which I prefer to go to local people versus you know businesses. 1796 03:05:34.980 --> 03:05:37.620 Mike Bravo: Know storefront businesses, but just want to throw that out there. 1797 03:05:38.400 --> 03:05:40.110 james murez: Thank you, my vicki go ahead, please. 1798 03:05:41.040 --> 03:05:47.160 Vicki Halliday: i'm i'm having a hot I tend to agree with lydia and Mike both arm. 1799 03:05:48.840 --> 03:05:50.580 Vicki Halliday: It worries me that this. 1800 03:05:52.230 --> 03:06:01.020 Vicki Halliday: They could use this as a blanket thing I doubt that they would because chop shops, even the really illegal ones, have been really ignored. 1801 03:06:01.860 --> 03:06:17.880 Vicki Halliday: But I don't want to see the people get hurt that I know who repair bikes on the side and stuff like that lance being one but there's smaller ones, without trucks, to work out off that have helped me out from time to time and. 1802 03:06:20.880 --> 03:06:25.890 Vicki Halliday: The wording just bothers me so i'm not quite sure what to do about this, thank you. 1803 03:06:25.920 --> 03:06:27.510 james murez: Thank you Vicky what Stan go ahead. 1804 03:06:29.310 --> 03:06:31.710 Ansar Muhammad: I was just thinking with lydia spoke. 1805 03:06:32.790 --> 03:06:46.800 Ansar Muhammad: Last, as somebody i've been known for over 40 years and near 40 years and I would hate for emotion like this to impact his business I didn't read anything and emotion that indicated that the. 1806 03:06:47.820 --> 03:07:02.670 Ansar Muhammad: stolen bike so the the shops that got the bikes is connected to the encampments I don't know if we can get that added that you know, dealing with the homeless encampment that none of these. 1807 03:07:03.900 --> 03:07:16.080 Ansar Muhammad: outfits should be allowed there because when I walk around Venice that's what I see is most of the bikes is around the in kemet areas, and I would hate for this to him PAC man. 1808 03:07:18.180 --> 03:07:20.100 james murez: Thank you, Sam elite go ahead place. 1809 03:07:20.820 --> 03:07:31.530 Alix: So I agree with with vicki I think there could be some unintended consequences, and I think we have a really smart group of people here and to I think it was lisa's point. 1810 03:07:32.430 --> 03:07:41.010 Alix: And I am theory support some of this, but I think there's challenges and maybe because it's not pressing it should go back to a neighborhood committee. 1811 03:07:41.310 --> 03:07:49.920 Alix: And we can wordsmith some of this language and figure out how to make this a better motion that that doesn't potentially you know impact. 1812 03:07:50.280 --> 03:08:02.790 Alix: Members of the Community, that all of the draft and interface with, and this is from someone who's had a bike stolen right out of my my garage some a walk down the driveway so i'm empathetic to the problem with stolen bikes. 1813 03:08:03.870 --> 03:08:12.060 james murez: Thank you leaks solar day, did you happen to notice when you brought up that Council file if there was a date of when Council was going to be acting on it. 1814 03:08:12.960 --> 03:08:18.000 Soledad Ursua: Let me, let me share my screen with you guys um, I just wanted to point out, though, that it. 1815 03:08:18.510 --> 03:08:27.270 Soledad Ursua: On it does say that if the owner is there and it's their bike it's not an issue so we're saying that you know could have a wrong. 1816 03:08:27.690 --> 03:08:37.470 Soledad Ursua: consequence, so there is the exemption for licensed businesses and for individuals, making repairs or while present when repairs are being made to their own bicycles. 1817 03:08:37.860 --> 03:08:46.500 Soledad Ursua: um let's see but this Council with file size that let's see so it expires on so there's I guess some time. 1818 03:08:46.950 --> 03:08:58.920 Soledad Ursua: But maybe it'd be a good idea to send this motion out to everyone so that people can actually read this first instead of us, you know coming up with issues that we think will be applicable. 1819 03:09:00.600 --> 03:09:01.140 Thank you. 1820 03:09:02.250 --> 03:09:05.640 james murez: Thank you for bringing the screen up as well holly go ahead, please. 1821 03:09:05.970 --> 03:09:10.680 Alley Bean: Oh no I was just agreeing with basically everyone that that the wording has to be right. 1822 03:09:10.980 --> 03:09:11.400 james murez: Thank you. 1823 03:09:11.490 --> 03:09:13.230 james murez: i'm happy to go ahead, please. 1824 03:09:13.680 --> 03:09:20.250 Daffodil Tyminski: um I believe that there was a deadline and committee for this, which is why there were some urgency to. 1825 03:09:21.630 --> 03:09:38.340 Daffodil Tyminski: Have the board basically reaffirm its previous position taken a couple times over the years that there was a concern that this was going to Venice was one of the largest afflicted areas with this stolen bike chop shop issue, and this motion may go to committee without comment by Venice. 1826 03:09:39.480 --> 03:09:44.190 Daffodil Tyminski: um I don't have the dates off the top of my head, but sold out if you have it up there. 1827 03:09:44.880 --> 03:09:45.240 It says. 1828 03:09:47.010 --> 03:09:48.420 Soledad Ursua: Introduce was on. 1829 03:09:49.470 --> 03:09:51.420 Soledad Ursua: It was on October 5. 1830 03:09:52.170 --> 03:09:58.500 Soledad Ursua: I didn't look like there's any date I don't see anything that says when it will be heard, though i'm not sure. 1831 03:09:59.130 --> 03:10:04.110 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, I don't have the details of my head, but that that is why this was pressing. 1832 03:10:05.250 --> 03:10:06.630 Daffodil Tyminski: To get on this month's agenda. 1833 03:10:07.020 --> 03:10:07.530 james murez: Thank you. 1834 03:10:08.580 --> 03:10:11.580 james murez: I will just add my two cents and then, I guess, we should. 1835 03:10:12.630 --> 03:10:21.150 james murez: vote on it, my feeling is is that the police have plenty to do, and that I don't believe that they're just going to randomly pick on people. 1836 03:10:21.480 --> 03:10:25.590 james murez: That they don't like, for whatever reason, I mean I heard that comment I heard that. 1837 03:10:25.980 --> 03:10:33.030 james murez: You know they're going to go out and do terrible things to people that are running legitimate businesses I just don't think they have the time. 1838 03:10:33.540 --> 03:10:39.630 james murez: I don't think that they have the interest in doing that, I think that they're trying to help us and they're not trying to pick on people that. 1839 03:10:40.530 --> 03:10:58.050 james murez: Are following the rules so that that's my two cents, I mean i'm supporting the police, and I believe that they're doing a good job and and if there's a way that we can clean up the crime that's happening on our street with all of the stolen bicycles and clearly they are around the encampments. 1840 03:10:59.280 --> 03:11:01.920 james murez: I think if this if this upset that would be a good thing. 1841 03:11:03.000 --> 03:11:05.280 james murez: Having said that, Melissa let's take about. 1842 03:11:35.370 --> 03:11:35.850 james murez: Yes. 1843 03:11:37.110 --> 03:11:38.580 melissadiner: Yes, yes. 1844 03:11:42.810 --> 03:11:43.290 melissadiner: vicki. 1845 03:12:06.450 --> 03:12:06.840 Sima Kostovetsky: ya. 1846 03:12:08.280 --> 03:12:08.700 melissadiner: Ali. 1847 03:12:09.360 --> 03:12:09.960 No. 1848 03:12:17.550 --> 03:12:18.090 Chie Lunn: Yes. 1849 03:12:22.500 --> 03:12:23.070 melissadiner: Bravo. 1850 03:12:23.430 --> 03:12:23.820 No. 1851 03:12:26.430 --> 03:12:26.970 ElizabethClay: Yes. 1852 03:12:30.990 --> 03:12:31.650 Soledad Ursua: Yes. 1853 03:12:33.060 --> 03:12:33.360 jim robb: Oh. 1854 03:12:34.950 --> 03:12:36.450 melissadiner: i'm sorry it was difficult to hear you. 1855 03:12:38.730 --> 03:12:39.300 melissadiner: Go. 1856 03:12:42.000 --> 03:12:43.770 Nico Ruderman: Oh yes, park. 1857 03:12:46.530 --> 03:12:47.130 robertthibodeau: Yes. 1858 03:12:47.700 --> 03:12:48.180 melissadiner: or no. 1859 03:12:48.870 --> 03:12:49.140 No. 1860 03:12:57.120 --> 03:12:58.920 Andrea Boccaletti: Yes, cj. 1861 03:12:59.490 --> 03:13:00.960 melissadiner: Yes, Stan. 1862 03:13:02.280 --> 03:13:02.760 Ansar Muhammad: No. 1863 03:13:09.240 --> 03:13:11.190 Alix: leaks, can you change me to a no please. 1864 03:13:12.450 --> 03:13:12.810 melissadiner: yeah. 1865 03:13:32.280 --> 03:13:32.940 james murez: Thank you. 1866 03:13:34.920 --> 03:13:35.610 james murez: um. 1867 03:13:37.590 --> 03:13:40.050 james murez: So what happened to my agenda. 1868 03:13:42.180 --> 03:13:43.830 james murez: Somehow cost. 1869 03:13:47.820 --> 03:13:50.670 Sima Kostovetsky: I think Ben trying to get in with the animal. 1870 03:13:52.170 --> 03:13:55.470 Daffodil Tyminski: So we're on a 12 G, which is the. 1871 03:13:55.620 --> 03:13:56.250 yeah. 1872 03:13:58.680 --> 03:14:01.350 james murez: I just need to figure out how to get it back up on my screen. 1873 03:14:08.970 --> 03:14:10.770 james murez: Some reason the share isn't working. 1874 03:14:12.030 --> 03:14:13.830 Daffodil Tyminski: it's a short motion I can read it. 1875 03:14:13.950 --> 03:14:15.030 james murez: I got it I got it. 1876 03:14:16.560 --> 03:14:18.630 james murez: Okay, there we go Thank you sorry. 1877 03:14:20.250 --> 03:14:20.700 james murez: Go ahead. 1878 03:14:22.080 --> 03:14:31.980 Daffodil Tyminski: Sure um, so this is item 12 G, it is the motion that the President is an ex officio on committees i'm. 1879 03:14:34.470 --> 03:14:39.900 Daffodil Tyminski: The motion is that the dnc board shall create and you standing rule as follows colon. 1880 03:14:40.470 --> 03:14:51.960 Daffodil Tyminski: The President shall be an ex officio member of every committee, so long as in so being the president's membership does not conflict with the bylaws, for example, as it doesn't the case with the land use planning committee. 1881 03:14:54.000 --> 03:14:56.250 james murez: Thank you um can we get a second. 1882 03:15:01.710 --> 03:15:03.210 melissadiner: yeah all i'll second that Melissa. 1883 03:15:03.930 --> 03:15:06.420 james murez: Thank you um let's go to public comment. 1884 03:15:06.570 --> 03:15:11.160 CJ Cole: Is there a point where one would have an amendment be considered. 1885 03:15:12.270 --> 03:15:13.050 james murez: um. 1886 03:15:14.070 --> 03:15:16.320 james murez: Well, we could consider it now, if you want to, if you want to. 1887 03:15:17.640 --> 03:15:22.950 james murez: make an amendment to the motion we can certainly do it now, or we can wait until we have public comment that we have here public comment again. 1888 03:15:23.670 --> 03:15:26.250 CJ Cole: Okay i'll make my amendment motion. 1889 03:15:28.110 --> 03:15:40.590 CJ Cole: I wanna amended to say an ex officio Member shall not be counted toward establishing a committee colon and still not have a voting rights. 1890 03:15:42.480 --> 03:15:43.950 Alix: i'll second that cj. 1891 03:15:44.310 --> 03:15:44.580 OK. 1892 03:15:46.860 --> 03:15:59.850 james murez: OK, so now we're going to open public comment to the amendment, Melissa did you get the wording alone would be in the transcript or in the in the audio file so let's just go. 1893 03:15:59.910 --> 03:16:09.270 melissadiner: out, I mean it would be nice if she could write it out and put it on the screen, since that wasn't just like an edit of a couple words because i'm I want to make sure I understand it. 1894 03:16:09.510 --> 03:16:12.270 james murez: Okay, do you have it written out cj. 1895 03:16:13.110 --> 03:16:17.790 CJ Cole: yeah but it's it's an on my agenda. 1896 03:16:20.190 --> 03:16:21.900 james murez: Working on paper all right well. 1897 03:16:22.950 --> 03:16:23.100 james murez: We. 1898 03:16:23.670 --> 03:16:24.690 melissadiner: can read it again. 1899 03:16:25.110 --> 03:16:26.010 james murez: read it read it again. 1900 03:16:26.040 --> 03:16:29.190 james murez: cj more slowly, where you want to put in where okay. 1901 03:16:29.340 --> 03:16:39.960 CJ Cole: An ex officio Member shall not be counted toward establishing a committee quorum and shall not have a voting. 1902 03:16:45.810 --> 03:16:49.920 james murez: So it's an extra sentence basically yeah okay. 1903 03:16:57.840 --> 03:16:59.220 Daffodil Tyminski: Shall we take some public comment. 1904 03:16:59.490 --> 03:17:00.210 james murez: Yes, please. 1905 03:17:00.870 --> 03:17:05.790 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay i'm Sean o'brien why don't you go first. 1906 03:17:07.170 --> 03:17:09.150 james murez: Eric and more will be our last speaker. 1907 03:17:09.330 --> 03:17:12.120 sean obrien: i'm sorry I didn't know my hand was up alright. 1908 03:17:13.740 --> 03:17:19.590 Daffodil Tyminski: Alright, thanks Sean i'm Nick answered a shallow why don't you go next. 1909 03:17:23.040 --> 03:17:26.490 Nick Antonicello: yeah I support, I support the man, thank you. 1910 03:17:27.540 --> 03:17:28.140 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Nick. 1911 03:17:30.240 --> 03:17:30.870 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm. 1912 03:17:31.170 --> 03:17:32.400 Daffodil Tyminski: Telling fallon go ahead. 1913 03:17:34.320 --> 03:17:41.160 Helen Fallon: I support the amendment I think the language clarifies for everyone and the purpose of somebody serving as ex officio. 1914 03:17:41.460 --> 03:17:54.780 Helen Fallon: robert's rules specifically said they don't count for him, but there's ambiguity about whether they're voting or non voting and I don't think the intention here is to have extra physio voting on committees if that's the intention, then. 1915 03:17:56.280 --> 03:18:05.850 Helen Fallon: Then, frankly, you should go the whole thing you know um I think the I definitely support the amendment, and I think it clarifies everything and removes any ambiguity. 1916 03:18:07.770 --> 03:18:08.460 Thanks Alan. 1917 03:18:10.110 --> 03:18:12.000 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm Lisa redmond go ahead. 1918 03:18:13.650 --> 03:18:30.420 Lisa Redmond: yeah before I thought the motion was such a you know, whatever but cj excellent job at the amendment for clarifying it and articulating exactly how it should be and made it a very strong motion, so I very support the motion with the amendment, thank you. 1919 03:18:31.860 --> 03:18:36.390 Daffodil Tyminski: So much Lisa i'm Isabelle GVA go ahead. 1920 03:18:39.240 --> 03:18:48.960 Isabelle Duvivier: hi we have on bb committee, we have an ex officio Member who's very knowledgeable and. 1921 03:18:50.130 --> 03:18:57.150 Isabelle Duvivier: i'm not exactly sure where where this comes from, but i'm just saying I don't quite understand. 1922 03:18:58.440 --> 03:18:59.010 Isabelle Duvivier: Thank you. 1923 03:19:01.230 --> 03:19:03.990 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Erica more go ahead. 1924 03:19:06.390 --> 03:19:14.550 Erica Moore: hi um I I do agree also that cj is edit makes it makes sense, so I do support it with cj edit Thank you. 1925 03:19:15.570 --> 03:19:16.290 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Marco. 1926 03:19:17.490 --> 03:19:18.930 Daffodil Tyminski: I appreciate the brief comment, I think. 1927 03:19:19.020 --> 03:19:20.640 james murez: I think that's everyone now right. 1928 03:19:20.670 --> 03:19:21.480 Daffodil Tyminski: I think so. 1929 03:19:21.810 --> 03:19:25.770 james murez: Okay let's go back to the board comment, let me just make one quick comment. 1930 03:19:26.820 --> 03:19:43.860 james murez: Is a word committee Member i'm not necessarily going to vote on this one, because I think that would be perhaps a conflict of interest, but I did want to mention the issue of voting, the comment that was brought up that everybody should be aware of that, if if there is a. 1931 03:19:46.020 --> 03:19:48.570 james murez: A tide vote then. 1932 03:19:49.890 --> 03:19:57.120 james murez: There, there is sometimes a benefit to having the President, who is on the committee being able to break the tie. 1933 03:19:58.650 --> 03:20:10.260 james murez: And i'm not suggest i'm Actually, I guess, I should probably pass the gavel at this point, adaptable and let her finish conducting the the the meeting because I had spoken on this, but I will also recuse from voting, thank you. 1934 03:20:11.790 --> 03:20:13.680 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay i'm. 1935 03:20:15.030 --> 03:20:22.020 Daffodil Tyminski: So bored comment why don't we take that now Alex you have your hand up first why don't you go ahead first. 1936 03:20:28.020 --> 03:20:29.160 Daffodil Tyminski: I think you need to unmute. 1937 03:20:29.310 --> 03:20:36.540 Alix: Oh sorry sorry sorry got it i'm just to jim's comment, the committee's are all advisory so if it's a yay. 1938 03:20:36.570 --> 03:20:37.770 Bruno Hernandez: My understanding is. 1939 03:20:37.860 --> 03:20:40.650 Alix: If it sounds really good though or. 1940 03:20:40.680 --> 03:20:50.160 Alix: tie committee that i'll get to pass board where the board can weigh in so I don't necessarily think there needs to be anything to. 1941 03:20:51.330 --> 03:20:55.920 Alix: Have a tiebreaker at the committee level, and thank you cj for amending the most. 1942 03:20:59.460 --> 03:21:02.160 Daffodil Tyminski: awesome thanks leaks Sema go ahead. 1943 03:21:04.590 --> 03:21:08.040 Daffodil Tyminski: Oh sorry Mike I skipped you, but just seeing what you go and then making go. 1944 03:21:08.460 --> 03:21:14.490 Sima Kostovetsky: Okay, I just had a question like How does this change how we've been operating before because, for example. 1945 03:21:15.000 --> 03:21:19.410 Sima Kostovetsky: You know, even in the prior administration, the President was always ex officio but. 1946 03:21:19.680 --> 03:21:31.470 Sima Kostovetsky: The way that I understood it, they never had voting rights right so they're always welcome to the meeting, and it was up to them whether they would attend so i'm just wondering how is this different, especially with the amendment. 1947 03:21:36.600 --> 03:21:38.430 Daffodil Tyminski: TIM I think that's a question for you now that you. 1948 03:21:38.430 --> 03:21:39.270 Daffodil Tyminski: Post gavel. 1949 03:21:39.390 --> 03:21:40.200 james murez: I can answer. 1950 03:21:40.500 --> 03:21:42.030 Daffodil Tyminski: Why don't we wait till the end. 1951 03:21:42.330 --> 03:21:44.580 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay Mike bravo go ahead. 1952 03:21:47.430 --> 03:21:55.380 Mike Bravo: yeah I just wanna say I agree with the amendment, and this law new shifts and how we're doing things too so it's kind of hard to tell. 1953 03:21:56.190 --> 03:22:05.700 Mike Bravo: what the impact is intention is one thing, but in patches another, and I think the amendment clarifies things and, as we all know, if it's not in writing it doesn't exist so encourage. 1954 03:22:08.520 --> 03:22:09.180 This motion. 1955 03:22:11.190 --> 03:22:11.430 Thanks. 1956 03:22:12.480 --> 03:22:13.530 Daffodil Tyminski: So that go ahead. 1957 03:22:13.860 --> 03:22:23.520 Soledad Ursua: And I have the same exact question is Sema when I chaired the Public Health and Safety Committee, I always have the President as ex officio so I just yeah so exact same questions Sema. 1958 03:22:26.640 --> 03:22:27.660 james murez: Okay answer. 1959 03:22:28.050 --> 03:22:33.480 Daffodil Tyminski: Oh yeah there's no other, as you know, their hands Jim why don't you go ahead and address the emotion and what the issue is. 1960 03:22:33.570 --> 03:22:55.020 james murez: So the the issue came up at the beginning of my term as President, the template that we were using in previous years, always had ex officio listed as IRA and it was it was on there, and when we went looking through the standing rules in the bylaws it was never defined. 1961 03:22:56.100 --> 03:23:08.040 james murez: There was no definition of where the ex officio got to participate and didn't and in some of the committee's it was being included. 1962 03:23:08.580 --> 03:23:21.960 james murez: And subcommittees it wasn't, and this was just an issue of let's clarify it let's let's let's make it clear, because we want to move forward, we want to try and clean up the standing roles in the bylaws and get things. 1963 03:23:22.800 --> 03:23:35.490 james murez: To be in sync I believe that i've been said that in previous bylaws and previous standing rules has it always been in there, and he didn't know what it happened to it and we didn't have copies of the previous. 1964 03:23:35.610 --> 03:23:39.750 james murez: By scanning rules to show that it had been so it was just like let's put it back in. 1965 03:23:45.960 --> 03:23:50.610 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so why don't we call a vote on the motion as amended. 1966 03:23:55.230 --> 03:23:58.440 Mike Bravo: A real quick to is it typed up, so the public can see it. 1967 03:23:59.100 --> 03:24:02.550 Daffodil Tyminski: Does a great point Melissa do you have a typed up. 1968 03:24:10.290 --> 03:24:13.200 Daffodil Tyminski: um wait i'm looking here, we may have. 1969 03:24:14.670 --> 03:24:16.350 Daffodil Tyminski: lost Melissa perhaps. 1970 03:24:16.860 --> 03:24:17.280 Really. 1971 03:24:19.230 --> 03:24:20.580 Soledad Ursua: isn't attention attendee now. 1972 03:24:20.970 --> 03:24:22.170 Daffodil Tyminski: Oh sorry. 1973 03:24:22.230 --> 03:24:26.310 Daffodil Tyminski: zoom balance you out I apologize hold on a SEC masa. 1974 03:24:26.940 --> 03:24:28.710 james murez: I just did okay. 1975 03:24:34.860 --> 03:24:35.640 Daffodil Tyminski: There, she is. 1976 03:24:48.570 --> 03:24:51.600 Daffodil Tyminski: Melissa can you unmute and show us what the languages. 1977 03:24:55.080 --> 03:25:03.420 melissadiner: yeah I can I i'm not gonna I don't know how to screen share and my computer just died, which is why I got kicked out but i'll happily read it again. 1978 03:25:03.810 --> 03:25:14.490 melissadiner: Because DJ couldn't say the amendment on her screen that she had so the amendment is shall not be counted toward establishing a committee quorum and shall not have a voting right and that. 1979 03:25:14.910 --> 03:25:31.500 melissadiner: Only changes if you read it from the beginning, it is the board shock create a new standing rule as follows the President will be an ex officio Member and shall not be counted towards establishing a committee quorum and shall not have a voting right that crack cj. 1980 03:25:31.980 --> 03:25:32.370 know. 1981 03:25:34.680 --> 03:25:35.910 james murez: Ali, do you ever typed out. 1982 03:25:36.390 --> 03:25:39.360 Alley Bean: No, no, no, but she left out the part of the loop back. 1983 03:25:40.500 --> 03:25:41.580 melissadiner: There was nothing. 1984 03:25:41.640 --> 03:25:42.900 melissadiner: having to do with Luca. 1985 03:25:43.200 --> 03:25:50.640 Alley Bean: You know it's only emotion and Melissa it's important the original writing, and she just added a sentence at the end. 1986 03:25:52.110 --> 03:25:52.440 Alley Bean: Right. 1987 03:25:52.500 --> 03:25:53.280 melissadiner: we're ej. 1988 03:25:53.370 --> 03:26:03.240 melissadiner: Can you clarify, since it was your amendment because that's what I was told when when you read it so maybe cj I didn't read the whole thing can you read it all cj. 1989 03:26:08.910 --> 03:26:10.080 james murez: gj can you unmute. 1990 03:26:13.980 --> 03:26:25.110 CJ Cole: I was gonna leave the motion as is and then just have one more sentence after it, which i'm I can see if I can put it up i've never. 1991 03:26:25.320 --> 03:26:37.710 melissadiner: Know that's fine if that's what it was that's not, I believe, how you read it, I bet I thought you read it up after ex officio Member So if you wanted at the end great so then it's the board shall create a new standing rule as far as. 1992 03:26:38.100 --> 03:26:42.570 melissadiner: The president's will be an ex officio member of every committee, so long as. 1993 03:26:43.350 --> 03:26:55.920 melissadiner: In so being the president's membership does not conflict with the bylaws, for example, as it does not, in the case of land use and planning committee and shall not be counted towards establishing a committee quorum and shall not have a voting right. 1994 03:26:58.710 --> 03:26:59.730 james murez: Is that correct cj. 1995 03:27:00.210 --> 03:27:02.670 CJ Cole: yeah I was just trying i've never shared. 1996 03:27:04.560 --> 03:27:06.870 CJ Cole: yeah Okay, well, I was trying to put it up, but. 1997 03:27:07.410 --> 03:27:10.350 melissadiner: Well that's much clearer anyways if it just goes at that. 1998 03:27:10.410 --> 03:27:12.240 CJ Cole: So it's super sorry. 1999 03:27:15.720 --> 03:27:18.960 melissadiner: Does anyone have need further clarification on that. 2000 03:27:20.220 --> 03:27:29.880 Alley Bean: um you just read it wrong as all Melissa but it's what it's how it's written is right, you said, as it does not, in the case but it reads as it does in the case with but that's written. 2001 03:27:39.690 --> 03:27:41.100 melissadiner: Close so what am I doing now. 2002 03:27:42.420 --> 03:27:43.650 melissadiner: Gemini taking about. 2003 03:27:45.270 --> 03:27:46.680 Daffodil Tyminski: It is why we call the vote. 2004 03:27:46.950 --> 03:27:49.620 james murez: yeah daffodil your, you have the gavel. 2005 03:27:49.830 --> 03:27:59.670 james murez: yeah and you're only calling the vote on the amenity motion around the only on the amendment, not on the original motion. 2006 03:28:00.150 --> 03:28:05.460 Daffodil Tyminski: Right so Melissa let's call the vote for the motion on as amended. 2007 03:28:06.570 --> 03:28:11.970 james murez: Know that's your only calling the vote for the amendment of the motion. 2008 03:28:12.990 --> 03:28:16.440 james murez: Not the Amended motion just the amendment to the motion. 2009 03:28:19.080 --> 03:28:22.920 Daffodil Tyminski: So let's call the vote on the amendments to the motion call. 2010 03:28:23.190 --> 03:28:23.820 melissadiner: that's it oh. 2011 03:28:24.240 --> 03:28:24.840 Daffodil Tyminski: Yes. 2012 03:28:25.350 --> 03:28:27.000 melissadiner: I will, yes leaks. 2013 03:28:28.620 --> 03:28:28.920 Alix: Yes. 2014 03:28:30.090 --> 03:28:30.870 melissadiner: Thank you. 2015 03:28:31.140 --> 03:28:31.560 Yes. 2016 03:28:33.090 --> 03:28:33.630 Sima Kostovetsky: Yes. 2017 03:28:34.170 --> 03:28:35.370 Alley Bean: Ali yes. 2018 03:28:35.760 --> 03:28:36.180 hi. 2019 03:28:39.690 --> 03:28:41.730 Mike Bravo: Mike yes. 2020 03:28:43.350 --> 03:28:43.860 ElizabethClay: Yes. 2021 03:28:45.390 --> 03:28:45.930 Soledad Ursua: Yes. 2022 03:28:47.220 --> 03:28:47.730 jim robb: Yes. 2023 03:28:48.360 --> 03:28:48.870 melissadiner: me go. 2024 03:28:49.890 --> 03:28:50.400 Nico Ruderman: Yes. 2025 03:28:51.420 --> 03:28:52.050 clark brown: Yes. 2026 03:28:54.840 --> 03:28:55.380 robertthibodeau: Yes. 2027 03:28:55.920 --> 03:28:57.510 Bruno Hernandez: or no yes. 2028 03:28:59.010 --> 03:28:59.460 Andrea Boccaletti: Yes. 2029 03:28:59.910 --> 03:29:01.590 Ansar Muhammad: cj yes. 2030 03:29:02.070 --> 03:29:04.860 Ansar Muhammad: And yes, okay. 2031 03:29:04.950 --> 03:29:06.840 melissadiner: So 01. 2032 03:29:09.300 --> 03:29:09.510 james murez: and 2033 03:29:10.050 --> 03:29:11.640 james murez: Now yeah go ahead i'm sorry. 2034 03:29:11.970 --> 03:29:15.210 Daffodil Tyminski: Oh, so now we're going to take a vote on the emotion, as amended. 2035 03:29:18.390 --> 03:29:18.840 Daffodil Tyminski: So we have. 2036 03:29:20.370 --> 03:29:25.410 melissadiner: To, we need to redo it if anyone's not changing their vote or do you want me to just do it like. 2037 03:29:25.410 --> 03:29:30.810 Daffodil Tyminski: I do think we need a separate roll call vote and I would read the motion again. 2038 03:29:31.500 --> 03:29:33.480 james murez: You also have public comment on. 2039 03:29:33.540 --> 03:29:35.040 Daffodil Tyminski: I know i'm getting there. 2040 03:29:35.190 --> 03:29:35.820 james murez: Okay sorry. 2041 03:29:36.210 --> 03:29:40.710 Daffodil Tyminski: um so Melissa why don't you read the motion as amended. 2042 03:29:43.980 --> 03:29:50.400 melissadiner: emotion, as amended, again, is the board shove, create a new standing rule as follows. 2043 03:29:50.730 --> 03:29:59.280 melissadiner: The Presidents will be an ex officio member of every committee, so long as in so being the president's membership does not conflict with the bylaws. 2044 03:29:59.700 --> 03:30:09.570 melissadiner: For example, as it does in the case with land do some planning committee and shall not be counted towards establishing a committee quorum and shall not have a voting right. 2045 03:30:10.770 --> 03:30:16.440 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so let's go to public comment um let's try to keep it under a minute so I don't have to be an octopus. 2046 03:30:16.440 --> 03:30:17.880 CJ Cole: And that is three things at once. 2047 03:30:18.090 --> 03:30:19.170 CJ Cole: Lisa why don't you go first. 2048 03:30:19.620 --> 03:30:21.060 Daffodil Tyminski: And Margaret will stop with you. 2049 03:30:22.380 --> 03:30:22.740 Daffodil Tyminski: guys. 2050 03:30:23.760 --> 03:30:26.040 Lisa Redmond: As much as I amendment. 2051 03:30:26.790 --> 03:30:27.810 Lisa Redmond: i'm just going to point out. 2052 03:30:27.930 --> 03:30:31.200 Lisa Redmond: Point of order you guys need to figure out a way to type that on the screen. 2053 03:30:31.620 --> 03:30:44.460 Lisa Redmond: And I was at the del rey neighborhood Council the other night they're managed to type their amendments onto the screen so voting on an amendment, where the public can't review it and see it as Britain technically makes this boat illegal. 2054 03:30:45.360 --> 03:30:45.840 So. 2055 03:30:47.310 --> 03:30:53.250 Lisa Redmond: that's i'm just putting that out there, but I agree with the amendment do what you're going to do, and yes, I know your volunteer. 2056 03:30:54.510 --> 03:30:58.560 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Lisa i'm Nick go ahead, your next. 2057 03:31:00.120 --> 03:31:08.280 Nick Antonicello: One day, I was going to point out, this is a standing room with vision, if this was a bylaws of is needed, two thirds vote the other problem is is that. 2058 03:31:09.000 --> 03:31:21.540 Nick Antonicello: Your past President has served as an ex officio Member Mike knew her service served as an ex officio Member when the luck serve as an ex officio Member and that hasn't been addressed you may need to trust that moving forward. 2059 03:31:23.820 --> 03:31:26.310 Nick Antonicello: In terms of IRA being with an ex officio Member. 2060 03:31:27.330 --> 03:31:28.080 Daffodil Tyminski: Alright, thanks. 2061 03:31:30.330 --> 03:31:32.100 Daffodil Tyminski: Margaret go ahead you're the last one. 2062 03:31:39.000 --> 03:31:39.510 Daffodil Tyminski: Margaret. 2063 03:31:48.030 --> 03:31:49.140 Daffodil Tyminski: Margaret you have a comment. 2064 03:31:55.230 --> 03:32:00.270 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay here's margaret's not here i'm sorry Lisa you also have your hand up go ahead. 2065 03:32:02.250 --> 03:32:03.000 Lisa Redmond: I already spoke. 2066 03:32:03.480 --> 03:32:06.600 Daffodil Tyminski: Oh, you did okay alright so we're gonna close public comment. 2067 03:32:08.340 --> 03:32:11.940 Daffodil Tyminski: board the board comment anyone got their hand up. 2068 03:32:14.910 --> 03:32:18.090 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm seeing no hands, Melissa why don't you call the vote. 2069 03:32:19.350 --> 03:32:21.060 melissadiner: And can I just make one comment. 2070 03:32:23.040 --> 03:32:36.840 melissadiner: So I would happily put it up on the screen moving forward, but I also think like become for transparency for everyone and to make my job easier, so I we don't have to repeat it five times. 2071 03:32:37.170 --> 03:32:45.300 melissadiner: Moving forward why don't you just bring your emotion written out like people have done, I think that's super helpful, then people can throw it up on the screen. 2072 03:32:45.690 --> 03:33:01.530 melissadiner: And then we don't have to like worry about it, I would just ask all board members if you're going to make an amendment or an adjustment type it out and send it to us, so we can put it up or better yet like you just put it up, so we can see it, and now i'll take a roll call but. 2073 03:33:04.410 --> 03:33:04.710 Daffodil Tyminski: God. 2074 03:33:06.630 --> 03:33:07.230 melissadiner: damn it oh. 2075 03:33:07.890 --> 03:33:09.630 melissadiner: Yes, I vote. 2076 03:33:11.250 --> 03:33:12.330 melissadiner: Yes, leaks. 2077 03:33:12.570 --> 03:33:14.760 melissadiner: Yes, vicki yes. 2078 03:33:18.330 --> 03:33:18.900 Sima Kostovetsky: Yes. 2079 03:33:19.560 --> 03:33:20.790 Alley Bean: Ali yes. 2080 03:33:21.360 --> 03:33:23.070 Chie Lunn: hi Epstein. 2081 03:33:26.190 --> 03:33:27.030 melissadiner: Like bravo. 2082 03:33:27.480 --> 03:33:28.110 Yes. 2083 03:33:30.990 --> 03:33:31.830 melissadiner: let's play. 2084 03:33:32.580 --> 03:33:33.270 Yes. 2085 03:33:38.250 --> 03:33:38.730 Soledad Ursua: Yes. 2086 03:33:39.660 --> 03:33:40.050 James. 2087 03:33:44.460 --> 03:33:44.910 Nico Ruderman: Yes. 2088 03:33:45.240 --> 03:33:46.650 clark brown: Clark yes. 2089 03:33:48.360 --> 03:33:48.870 robertthibodeau: Yes. 2090 03:33:49.110 --> 03:33:49.650 For now. 2091 03:33:52.290 --> 03:33:52.710 Andrea Boccaletti: Yes. 2092 03:33:53.190 --> 03:33:54.780 CJ Cole: DJ yes. 2093 03:33:55.410 --> 03:33:55.890 Stan. 2094 03:34:00.390 --> 03:34:00.960 melissadiner: Stan. 2095 03:34:04.410 --> 03:34:04.920 melissadiner: See here. 2096 03:34:06.810 --> 03:34:07.680 Daffodil Tyminski: um he. 2097 03:34:09.360 --> 03:34:09.960 Daffodil Tyminski: here. 2098 03:34:10.440 --> 03:34:11.940 james murez: He was here, he left. 2099 03:34:13.980 --> 03:34:16.770 Daffodil Tyminski: So so so check the zoom to see what he dropped. 2100 03:34:16.770 --> 03:34:17.070 Daffodil Tyminski: out. 2101 03:34:17.820 --> 03:34:22.950 melissadiner: He was 1616 or 16 to 16 02. 2102 03:34:23.310 --> 03:34:27.780 james murez: He texted me that he had to leave at 930 earlier in the meeting. 2103 03:34:28.140 --> 03:34:28.890 Daffodil Tyminski: Ah, OK. 2104 03:34:34.740 --> 03:34:35.370 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay. 2105 03:34:35.610 --> 03:34:38.070 Daffodil Tyminski: So, moving right along let's pass the gavel back to. 2106 03:34:38.070 --> 03:34:39.570 james murez: Jim Thank you. 2107 03:34:39.600 --> 03:34:42.000 Daffodil Tyminski: Dan why don't you take 12 ah. 2108 03:34:43.050 --> 03:34:44.580 Daffodil Tyminski: i'll read the motion if you'd like. 2109 03:34:45.240 --> 03:34:46.650 james murez: Yes, please make a motion. 2110 03:34:47.640 --> 03:35:03.330 Daffodil Tyminski: 12 he is regarding joint meetings between committees and the dnc and the motion is the board shall approve the following addition to the standing rules colon all committee meeting Shelby agenda is is joint meetings between the committee and the dnc Board of officers. 2111 03:35:04.680 --> 03:35:05.430 james murez: right here a second. 2112 03:35:06.330 --> 03:35:06.780 Second. 2113 03:35:07.980 --> 03:35:08.130 james murez: Jeff. 2114 03:35:08.880 --> 03:35:13.440 james murez: Clark Thank you Clark um let's go to public comment. 2115 03:35:15.600 --> 03:35:18.060 Daffodil Tyminski: Like we've got one hand up Helen go ahead. 2116 03:35:20.910 --> 03:35:33.780 Helen Fallon: I just want to clarify that the reason to have a joint meeting with a committee is solely to deal with the issue of cereal meetings and the possibility that you might have a quorum of corn. 2117 03:35:34.830 --> 03:35:40.860 Helen Fallon: According to done maybe they don't know what they're talking about, but in their training they say that. 2118 03:35:41.220 --> 03:35:47.730 Helen Fallon: When board members go to a committee they're not there to weigh in on things they're not there to lobby the committee. 2119 03:35:48.030 --> 03:35:52.950 Helen Fallon: And not there to comment they're there to gather information to find out how the stakeholders about things. 2120 03:35:53.310 --> 03:36:01.650 Helen Fallon: And I think that needs to be clarified in the Standing rule, this is not an opportunity for the dnc board officers to show up and make. 2121 03:36:02.220 --> 03:36:14.430 Helen Fallon: and try and sway the votes of committee members and weigh in on things and basically show in advance how they what their position is that's not your job you're supposed to wait until you hear all the stakeholder comments. 2122 03:36:15.510 --> 03:36:22.620 Helen Fallon: So I think this is a very poorly written standing rule that needs to be explained further you're going to just have a lot of brown act violation. 2123 03:36:24.150 --> 03:36:24.840 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks on. 2124 03:36:26.490 --> 03:36:30.750 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay board anyone's got anyone has their hand up on this. 2125 03:36:31.410 --> 03:36:33.330 james murez: leaks has her hand up alico head. 2126 03:36:34.710 --> 03:36:41.310 Alix: So I know there hasn't been a lot of public comment i'm highly opposed to this motion for a variety of reasons, number one. 2127 03:36:41.640 --> 03:36:55.320 Alix: All committee chairs should have the at their discretion whether this is a joint meeting or not a joint meeting, and you know to that to Helens point about board members not supposed to to be. 2128 03:36:56.760 --> 03:37:01.800 Alix: You know, speaking up and board meetings you know, there is something or in committee meetings, there is something to be said for that. 2129 03:37:03.420 --> 03:37:11.820 Alix: If you don't have a joint meeting, and there are more than five board members in a committee meeting that just means the board members have to stay silent and they should listen. 2130 03:37:13.770 --> 03:37:20.190 Alix: And in the case of Lou pack where you know we have specific bylaws where we don't want more than one board member. 2131 03:37:21.510 --> 03:37:31.650 Alix: On the on the loop at committee, I think it would be highly irresponsible to encourage you know constant joint meetings at the very least, with Lou peck and the board. 2132 03:37:32.010 --> 03:37:42.000 Alix: But I don't support this motion for a variety of reasons and mostly because I feel that committee should operate with their own degree of autonomy and it should be at their discretion. 2133 03:37:44.700 --> 03:37:46.560 james murez: Thank you, Robert go ahead. 2134 03:37:49.350 --> 03:37:58.710 robertthibodeau: um you guys wrote this for a reason, could we get an explanation on this this housekeeping I mean, I get the feeling you guys went through and did some housekeeping on the. 2135 03:37:59.550 --> 03:38:09.390 robertthibodeau: On the standing rules and that's where these these three or four items or whatever we're voting on are coming from, but these were things that needed to be cleaned up in the House. 2136 03:38:09.390 --> 03:38:21.750 robertthibodeau: Rules Could somebody who put this forward, because you guys voted on this could someone explain explain what this is procedurally because it doesn't mean much I think most of us. 2137 03:38:21.900 --> 03:38:33.630 james murez: So I think the leaks touched on it slightly that if more than five board members show up at a committee meeting the board members must remain silent. 2138 03:38:34.140 --> 03:38:45.330 james murez: The problem with that is is that when you have a project for instance the monster on the median more than five board members live within 500 feet. 2139 03:38:45.780 --> 03:38:58.410 james murez: of that project because it's so large and they have to all recuse themselves when the item gets before the board, because on the board they're a member of the decision making body. 2140 03:38:59.370 --> 03:39:04.830 james murez: When you're a member of the decision making body, the city says, if you live within 500 feet you can't be on there. 2141 03:39:05.940 --> 03:39:26.580 james murez: When the when the project goes before Lou Pack, for instance in this example, the issue is the board members are not members of the lupus committee they're not the ones making the decision, but they can still be able to speak out about their opinion of the project. 2142 03:39:27.720 --> 03:39:34.020 james murez: If they live within 500 feet, because they're not on the decision making body or its new Pack is making the decision. 2143 03:39:34.290 --> 03:39:41.310 james murez: they're not taking a voting position they're just going to voice their opinion does they were they were a member of the general public, they would get a minute or whatever. 2144 03:39:41.820 --> 03:39:48.900 james murez: leaked would feel it was appropriate to have people speaking so it gives them the opportunity that's the primary thrust behind this. 2145 03:39:49.200 --> 03:39:50.610 james murez: So it's a. 2146 03:39:50.670 --> 03:39:58.920 james murez: All the committee's have I mean the scooters on ocean front walk if you live within 500 feet of a scooter I mean within 500 feet of an ocean front. 2147 03:39:59.190 --> 03:40:10.770 james murez: Of ocean from walking there's an agenda item that comes up and you want to be able to speak about it, you go to the meeting you can't speak out about it, and if there's more than five board members so it'd be a violation of the brown at that point. 2148 03:40:11.160 --> 03:40:15.690 Alix: So, Jim just to really clarify my point because you're right, I did speak to part of that but. 2149 03:40:16.260 --> 03:40:28.380 Alix: You know I can speak as a loop picture, when I have big important items that I know, everybody in the Committee on the Community is going to want to weigh in on and make those meetings joint, but that should really be at the chairs. 2150 03:40:29.070 --> 03:40:43.410 Alix: discretion and I think most tears would act that way, I had a meeting last week that was a joint meeting that was a that that our city planner was supposed to come in and she couldn't make it was a joint meeting because I figured board members would want to show up. 2151 03:40:43.650 --> 03:40:56.910 james murez: A week I don't want to get into a debate with you, but I have been to at least two meetings where you were chair at the oakwood REC Center back in 2018 and 2019 where members of the board had to leave the room. 2152 03:40:57.810 --> 03:41:13.470 james murez: Because it was not a joint meeting this just makes it clear, it makes it a normal operating procedure thing normally it won't come up if it's a big issue and five, more than five Members show up it's a cover deal and and that's what this is doing this is Jay. 2153 03:41:13.680 --> 03:41:15.600 james murez: can get out of me that. 2154 03:41:15.660 --> 03:41:16.110 Alix: we've made it. 2155 03:41:16.170 --> 03:41:25.080 james murez: Very difficult for any any chair and i'm not picking on you, by any means that it's very difficult for the Chair to know when more than five people are going to show up. 2156 03:41:25.740 --> 03:41:38.040 james murez: you're just speculating that this is one that they're going to show up for and it's unfair to those people that they didn't get the opportunity to speak so that was the thrust behind anyway let's let's finish up public comment might go ahead, please. 2157 03:41:38.850 --> 03:41:44.700 Mike Bravo: yeah i'm just wondering what the negative aspects of it are league said to as far as. 2158 03:41:46.020 --> 03:41:56.610 Mike Bravo: Keeping autonomy for the committee's which I definitely agree with, but the same time to I know it's in the past, I thought that know sometimes people pop up to people's meetings, specifically, to get them. 2159 03:41:57.870 --> 03:42:03.120 Mike Bravo: You know, make it like a you know, a brown bag violation because it's not join me in or what have you too, so. 2160 03:42:03.930 --> 03:42:16.170 Mike Bravo: Aside from the autonomy factor like what would be the main negative aspect of having like an automatic joint meeting because, like you, don't know and 10 people from the you know the board, are going to pop up. 2161 03:42:16.740 --> 03:42:18.660 james murez: yeah there doesn't seem to be any Thank you Mike. 2162 03:42:19.740 --> 03:42:21.540 james murez: Clark go ahead, please, to give. 2163 03:42:21.810 --> 03:42:22.590 james murez: up again but. 2164 03:42:23.340 --> 03:42:27.720 clark brown: there's a question is the primary benefit of this proposal that. 2165 03:42:31.710 --> 03:42:39.420 clark brown: It makes it more likely that you will have a quorum, because if a if a board member shows up they count as a committee. 2166 03:42:39.480 --> 03:42:43.020 james murez: Is that no no it's absolutely incorrect. 2167 03:42:43.290 --> 03:42:53.100 james murez: Okay, a joint meeting only means that that the second committee can be there we've had many joint meetings we had a joint meeting when the. 2168 03:42:55.350 --> 03:43:01.290 james murez: median project was being proposed, where we had three committees, all in the room, at the same time, and it was a joint three way meeting. 2169 03:43:02.610 --> 03:43:08.190 james murez: we've done many joint meetings of different of different types, but this is just strictly because. 2170 03:43:08.520 --> 03:43:19.080 james murez: You know if you specify who the joint Members are yeah if you had a quorum of the board the board could make its own motion and take its own decision if it had been agenda eyes. 2171 03:43:20.040 --> 03:43:27.810 james murez: that's true you could do that but that's never come up where you would have 11 board members show up to a committee meeting. 2172 03:43:28.590 --> 03:43:46.080 james murez: And also have recognized their motion on the floor, and it was on the agenda and the committee also had their motion, so it was two separate motions and then they both walked away with separate motions that's never come up I can't imagine it happened, but it's possible I guess. 2173 03:43:48.240 --> 03:43:49.770 james murez: Okay i'm soda go ahead. 2174 03:43:50.250 --> 03:43:56.280 Soledad Ursua: It just wanted to clarify to everyone that when I chair the Public Health and Safety Committee, I always made them joint. 2175 03:43:56.700 --> 03:44:07.290 Soledad Ursua: meetings with the full neighborhood Council board I just I think I was the latest chair to be you know, to take over committee, so I just kind of follow all the rules, given or just the suggestions given to me. 2176 03:44:07.590 --> 03:44:15.660 Soledad Ursua: And when other board members came, I did not treat them like members of my committee, they were members of the public, and even if 10 board members join. 2177 03:44:15.960 --> 03:44:26.760 Soledad Ursua: They could just comment as the public me I didn't have them on, so I think this is a lot of these election things you know we're clearing up some of our bylaws but it's just not very clear. 2178 03:44:27.210 --> 03:44:33.690 Soledad Ursua: And maybe for some other stuff you could explain this more, but I think what it's just saying is that we just so we just don't run a quorum issues. 2179 03:44:34.200 --> 03:44:42.270 Soledad Ursua: That, if you show up you're not considered a voting Member or member of the committee, you can just comment as public comments just as anybody should. 2180 03:44:43.020 --> 03:44:49.620 james murez: You that your understanding is correct, do we have any other hands up I don't think so alley go ahead. 2181 03:44:49.980 --> 03:45:06.750 Alley Bean: um, I just wanted to make sure that I understand so it's for you this is emotion that all meetings or joint meetings all committee meetings or joint meetings and it doesn't give the Chair any discretion to have just their committee meet. 2182 03:45:08.040 --> 03:45:09.600 Alley Bean: As a non enjoyed meeting. 2183 03:45:09.990 --> 03:45:19.320 james murez: Now I think solid dad explained it more correctly you're still going to conduct your meeting just like you always did, because this is how meetings, all of the meetings have always been conducted this way. 2184 03:45:19.590 --> 03:45:21.000 Alley Bean: they've always been joint meetings. 2185 03:45:21.060 --> 03:45:33.300 james murez: They are almost all meetings have been joined the have been joined meetings it's only one one committee that has not made to join meetings and it's only been a problem in that one committee, where more than five people have shown up. 2186 03:45:35.190 --> 03:45:37.260 Alley Bean: And there's that loop back yep okay. 2187 03:45:39.090 --> 03:45:46.140 james murez: And it happened when the median project is being discussed, I mean it's happened before, anyway, we don't need to get into all of that. 2188 03:45:46.800 --> 03:45:51.210 Alix: happened on the median project, it was a joint meeting then jump okay sorry. 2189 03:45:51.960 --> 03:45:53.910 james murez: davidow go ahead, please your last speaker. 2190 03:45:54.330 --> 03:46:06.270 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm just saying, I agree with this idea that if there's a need to have a joint meeting we have it, but otherwise I just don't like the idea that every I mean to me it's pointless to have committees if everything's going to be joined committee with the board. 2191 03:46:07.590 --> 03:46:19.800 Daffodil Tyminski: I don't I have never understood this i've tried to understand it i've tried to get explanations, the idea that it just lets other people attend doesn't make sense to me that's my two cents. 2192 03:46:20.400 --> 03:46:21.660 james murez: Okay NICO go ahead, please. 2193 03:46:24.720 --> 03:46:37.860 Nico Ruderman: yeah I mean, I think you know us us says board members, even if we show up as members of public you know our our our voices carry a little more weight and I, so I don't know I think there's an issue with that. 2194 03:46:41.310 --> 03:46:42.870 james murez: Okay, thank you see my go ahead. 2195 03:46:45.990 --> 03:46:57.000 Sima Kostovetsky: i'd like to kind of second and third some of our views already expressed in that I think it's important that our committees are the backbone of neighborhood Councils, and I think it's important for them to be autonomous. 2196 03:47:00.930 --> 03:47:03.810 james murez: Okay, no more hands let's take a boat Melissa. 2197 03:47:08.700 --> 03:47:10.800 james murez: Smaller system here I don't see her. 2198 03:47:12.150 --> 03:47:12.750 Let me looking. 2199 03:47:15.420 --> 03:47:15.870 Andrea Boccaletti: Back in. 2200 03:47:17.550 --> 03:47:18.720 james murez: yeah I got a Finder. 2201 03:47:19.140 --> 03:47:20.760 Daffodil Tyminski: piece here I got her okay. 2202 03:47:28.560 --> 03:47:31.560 Daffodil Tyminski: Unless we're trying to promote you panelists, but you can go ahead and talk. 2203 03:47:33.540 --> 03:47:34.800 melissadiner: Can I say something. 2204 03:47:35.250 --> 03:47:43.560 melissadiner: Yes, yeah these were these things have come up almost never in 10 years and I honestly think that. 2205 03:47:44.040 --> 03:47:52.050 melissadiner: The last one, and this one it's all about participation, you know, like it's letting everyone participate, so I think it's strange. 2206 03:47:52.350 --> 03:48:01.080 melissadiner: That it's being perceived otherwise like, even though it doesn't maybe doesn't make sense to deaths point like these, this is the way it's always been explained to me so like. 2207 03:48:01.470 --> 03:48:08.100 melissadiner: If you go to a meeting and five of you are there, like go ahead and speak i'm not going to file a grievance but if whoever. 2208 03:48:08.460 --> 03:48:21.360 melissadiner: loves to file grievances all the time does and then all the work of that committee could somehow be affected, like that's why he's doing these things, so I vote on it, however, you want, I just wanted to add that, thank you. 2209 03:48:21.990 --> 03:48:23.010 Soledad Ursua: I agree, Melissa. 2210 03:48:28.530 --> 03:48:29.700 james murez: you're taking the boat Melissa. 2211 03:48:29.940 --> 03:48:31.860 melissadiner: yeah I got it Jim. 2212 03:48:32.130 --> 03:48:34.200 melissadiner: Yes, that's it oh. 2213 03:48:34.590 --> 03:48:35.040 No. 2214 03:48:36.150 --> 03:48:37.050 melissadiner: I vote yes. 2215 03:48:49.110 --> 03:48:49.560 Vicki Halliday: Yes. 2216 03:48:51.270 --> 03:48:51.660 Sima Kostovetsky: No. 2217 03:48:57.900 --> 03:48:58.410 melissadiner: Okay. 2218 03:49:00.870 --> 03:49:01.440 Yes. 2219 03:49:05.550 --> 03:49:06.000 Mike Bravo: No. 2220 03:49:10.710 --> 03:49:11.340 ElizabethClay: Yes. 2221 03:49:13.650 --> 03:49:14.160 Soledad Ursua: Yes. 2222 03:49:29.190 --> 03:49:29.670 clark brown: No. 2223 03:49:36.780 --> 03:49:37.260 robertthibodeau: Yes. 2224 03:49:39.420 --> 03:49:39.960 Bruno Hernandez: Yes. 2225 03:49:41.910 --> 03:49:42.330 Andrea Boccaletti: So. 2226 03:49:49.980 --> 03:50:18.780 james murez: 791891 you want to recount. 2227 03:50:22.140 --> 03:50:22.950 melissadiner: Eight sure. 2228 03:50:24.870 --> 03:50:25.890 james murez: How many total are there. 2229 03:50:27.000 --> 03:50:30.420 james murez: 8910 18 people how many people are there. 2230 03:50:32.640 --> 03:50:38.430 melissadiner: I don't know i'm just going to stick with that vote and not recount everyone if you want to recount everyone on the screen, you can. 2231 03:50:38.520 --> 03:50:38.820 james murez: You can. 2232 03:50:38.850 --> 03:50:40.650 Daffodil Tyminski: We have 18 panelists present. 2233 03:50:42.690 --> 03:50:43.950 james murez: Yes, would be 891. 2234 03:50:47.820 --> 03:50:51.690 melissadiner: that's what it that's what we just concluded Are we moving on yep. 2235 03:50:52.440 --> 03:50:54.000 So. 2236 03:50:55.200 --> 03:50:56.460 james murez: The next one. 2237 03:50:57.990 --> 03:50:58.860 james murez: def go ahead. 2238 03:50:59.670 --> 03:51:01.230 james murez: Okay, oh by. 2239 03:51:01.560 --> 03:51:05.070 Daffodil Tyminski: This is Adam 12 I amendment to standing rule number 14. 2240 03:51:07.620 --> 03:51:16.830 Daffodil Tyminski: The existing rule number 14 is laid out on the screen for everyone to read the proposal and the motion is to amend that rule to read as follows. 2241 03:51:18.240 --> 03:51:28.440 Daffodil Tyminski: The Board shall approve the following addition to standing rule number 14 as follows the consent calendar items or motions of standing committees consider to be routine by the administrative community. 2242 03:51:29.130 --> 03:51:37.890 Daffodil Tyminski: board approval of the consent calendar constitutes approval of all emotions contained there in there will be no separate discussion of consent calendar motions. 2243 03:51:38.520 --> 03:51:43.740 Daffodil Tyminski: Unless a board member or a member of the public request removal of an item from the consent calendar. 2244 03:51:44.280 --> 03:51:48.690 Daffodil Tyminski: In which case the Chair will place the item on the regular agenda with a chair deems appropriate. 2245 03:51:49.470 --> 03:52:04.170 Daffodil Tyminski: Anyone wishing to contest to consent calendar item on the board Agenda must appear in person at the board meeting and states the board good cause for the item to be removed from the consent calendar, the Chair shall have sole discretion to determine what constitutes good cause. 2246 03:52:06.240 --> 03:52:07.020 james murez: We have a second. 2247 03:52:07.830 --> 03:52:08.190 clark brown: Part of. 2248 03:52:09.120 --> 03:52:09.630 james murez: Who was a. 2249 03:52:09.990 --> 03:52:11.790 james murez: Mark Thank you Clark. 2250 03:52:13.050 --> 03:52:15.030 james murez: goblets have a public comment now. 2251 03:52:15.690 --> 03:52:16.560 Daffodil Tyminski: All right. 2252 03:52:17.700 --> 03:52:18.270 Mike Bravo: Real quick. 2253 03:52:18.510 --> 03:52:25.410 Mike Bravo: can ask, is it possible to highlight the difference between the previous motion and the new proposal and. 2254 03:52:28.710 --> 03:52:31.440 james murez: I don't have a way of doing that they're both on the screen now. 2255 03:52:32.700 --> 03:52:33.930 james murez: i'll leave them both up, you can. 2256 03:52:34.170 --> 03:52:35.760 Daffodil Tyminski: Compare the day not red light. 2257 03:52:36.540 --> 03:52:38.370 james murez: yeah this wasn't a red line deal. 2258 03:52:45.060 --> 03:52:47.010 james murez: stuff was all disgusted committee so. 2259 03:52:48.060 --> 03:52:52.230 james murez: let's keep going we have Lisa reading them will be the last hand. 2260 03:52:53.370 --> 03:52:55.830 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, Nick go ahead, why don't you speak. 2261 03:52:57.390 --> 03:53:07.560 Nick Antonicello: yeah I was the know voting committee on this, and the reason why I was the no vote, because this is not a cleaning up in the bylaws this is showing up the standing room. 2262 03:53:08.850 --> 03:53:15.180 Nick Antonicello: You have to remember when you change the bylaws in the two thirds vote you don't need a two thirds vote on standing world. 2263 03:53:15.600 --> 03:53:26.670 Nick Antonicello: So what we're really doing here, this is the last raid you're not cleaning up the bylaws this making it easier by doing it through a standing wheelchair earns the committee security vote no. 2264 03:53:28.380 --> 03:53:28.800 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you. 2265 03:53:32.160 --> 03:53:33.030 Daffodil Tyminski: Margaret God. 2266 03:53:35.250 --> 03:53:47.940 Margaret Molloy: So you seem to have changed the last line from explain to the board, the reason the items contested to the Chair will have the sole discretion to determine what constitutes good cause. 2267 03:53:48.480 --> 03:54:04.650 Margaret Molloy: I know Clark is a former lawyer, but I believe retired and Clark I don't think that stands you know that's not legal language it's way too vague, can you help them because it's a terrible motion and it's so subjective it's ridiculous, so please help don't vote on this. 2268 03:54:05.670 --> 03:54:05.850 Margaret Molloy: or. 2269 03:54:05.970 --> 03:54:07.170 clark brown: Can I comment on no. 2270 03:54:11.760 --> 03:54:13.290 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm Helen foul go ahead. 2271 03:54:17.430 --> 03:54:24.780 Helen Fallon: yeah the major change here is the Chair having sole discretion and that's just a really bad policy. 2272 03:54:26.940 --> 03:54:35.280 Helen Fallon: It just becomes very subjective there were, I went to the meeting at which this was discussed, I then claim that this was a special. 2273 03:54:35.580 --> 03:54:46.770 Helen Fallon: Rule that he got with from the city, I went and looked up all the council's that are part of rack and there's a variety of ways people treat treat consent calendar items. 2274 03:54:47.100 --> 03:54:48.750 james murez: One of them is a lot of people. 2275 03:54:48.750 --> 03:54:55.320 Helen Fallon: Just default to robert's rules what says consent calendar items can be removed by the voting members of a group. 2276 03:54:55.620 --> 03:55:04.620 Helen Fallon: which will be the board members, so you don't have a public issue, so you would take public comment before people saying, this should be pulled off because I got 20 people here. 2277 03:55:04.860 --> 03:55:16.680 Helen Fallon: Who are upset about this and want to address it, and the board one would hope would be responsive this just makes the so complicated and it's just the weirdest thing, and there is not a single. 2278 03:55:17.190 --> 03:55:27.990 Helen Fallon: Council on the West side that has any language about having a chair having the sole discretion to determine what constitutes cause like I said, most of them default or Roberts. 2279 03:55:27.990 --> 03:55:29.130 rake you Helen. 2280 03:55:30.450 --> 03:55:32.130 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm holly Tilson go ahead. 2281 03:55:35.010 --> 03:55:46.140 Holly Tilson: hi I also don't like the last sentence, I would request a board member to make a motion to remove that last sentence, I would also. 2282 03:55:46.830 --> 03:56:03.930 Holly Tilson: request a board member to remove the Chair will place the item on the regular agenda where the Chair deems appropriate it should go at the beginning of the regular calendar, since these were consent items considered non controversial. 2283 03:56:05.130 --> 03:56:05.640 Holly Tilson: Thank you. 2284 03:56:06.420 --> 03:56:06.960 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you. 2285 03:56:09.090 --> 03:56:12.870 Daffodil Tyminski: And last but not least, Lisa go ahead. 2286 03:56:14.580 --> 03:56:22.110 Lisa Redmond: Thank you um I am also very much against that subjective last line and for my argument. 2287 03:56:22.500 --> 03:56:31.830 Lisa Redmond: i'm going to read to you from a little something called the government code 54950 in the state of California, which happens to be the Ralph and brown at. 2288 03:56:32.340 --> 03:56:40.860 Lisa Redmond: quote the people of the State do not yield their sovereignty to agencies with serve them, the people in delegating authority. 2289 03:56:41.130 --> 03:56:48.840 Lisa Redmond: Do not give their public servants, the right to decide what is good for the people to know and what is not good for them to know. 2290 03:56:49.260 --> 03:57:00.120 Lisa Redmond: That people insist on remaining informed, so they may retain control over the instruments they have created this also applies to public comment but for this case. 2291 03:57:01.740 --> 03:57:05.490 Lisa Redmond: You do not have control over what we get to know is right in that right. 2292 03:57:08.130 --> 03:57:12.210 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, thanks so much, and with that we are closing public comment. 2293 03:57:12.810 --> 03:57:13.200 james murez: Thank you. 2294 03:57:14.040 --> 03:57:17.670 Daffodil Tyminski: you're welcome we've got a few board folks that want to talk. 2295 03:57:17.820 --> 03:57:21.150 james murez: yeah let's let's you can stop the clock i'm. 2296 03:57:22.290 --> 03:57:23.400 james murez: ELISE go ahead, please. 2297 03:57:25.050 --> 03:57:25.740 james murez: Give your hand up. 2298 03:57:27.690 --> 03:57:36.330 Alix: Sorry um so a couple things I agree with a lot of the comments and the subjects, the subjectivity for sure needs to be removed. 2299 03:57:36.780 --> 03:57:42.810 Alix: I mean, I can tell you contractually when when I did contracts back in the day and i'm not a lawyer i'm sure there are lawyers that can speak to this. 2300 03:57:43.230 --> 03:57:52.380 Alix: And you know, we would have sort of morals clauses and we'd always have to tighten up the the language, because it would be so subjective oh if you're accused of a. 2301 03:57:52.680 --> 03:58:05.940 Alix: You know, after moral turpitude it would have to get changed to you know if you're convicted or indicted same thing here, you know you you don't you don't give someone discretion on this, I also agree with next comment. 2302 03:58:06.780 --> 03:58:21.000 Alix: That we should get this into our bylaws and I know that's a more complicated way of dealing with things, but it seems like if we're cleaning up our bylaws and we have this opportunity to clean up our bylaws, why not get the consent calendar right get it on to our bylaws so. 2303 03:58:21.600 --> 03:58:28.320 Alix: You know I hope we can we can send this back to committee to get a better stronger less subjective version. 2304 03:58:30.120 --> 03:58:31.980 james murez: Thank you, a leak cj go ahead, please. 2305 03:58:32.760 --> 03:58:33.420 um. 2306 03:58:34.740 --> 03:58:43.650 CJ Cole: I think i'm unmuted my concern, and this is what I stated early on, is that this the way it's written. 2307 03:58:44.220 --> 03:59:02.340 CJ Cole: does not work with the new concept of having public comment at the beginning of our meeting, because what this does is opens up if something is pulled off the consent calendar is opening up public comment in the middle of our. 2308 03:59:04.710 --> 03:59:15.690 CJ Cole: of our meeting you know so it's just not consistent is all i'm saying with you know the thought that we're going to do all public comment up front and i'm getting laryngitis here. 2309 03:59:18.150 --> 03:59:19.290 Daffodil Tyminski: So, building on that. 2310 03:59:20.790 --> 03:59:21.180 james murez: and 2311 03:59:21.270 --> 03:59:21.990 CJ Cole: that's it yeah. 2312 03:59:22.170 --> 03:59:23.310 james murez: Mike go ahead, please. 2313 03:59:24.600 --> 03:59:25.800 Mike Bravo: yeah um. 2314 03:59:26.850 --> 03:59:35.550 Mike Bravo: It just seems like an unnecessary motion I didn't see what was wrong before i'm not filling understand some of them, you know tighten things up and trying to you know do. 2315 03:59:36.000 --> 03:59:48.510 Mike Bravo: housekeeping and encourage you know more efficiency and stuff but It just seems loved the sentiment simple controlling which i'm not really feeling and I don't even know if that's even legal honestly but um yeah. 2316 03:59:50.070 --> 03:59:51.390 james murez: Thank you Clark go ahead, please. 2317 03:59:51.660 --> 03:59:57.450 clark brown: I think there's a good motion, and the reason I like the motion is that I think it will expedite. 2318 03:59:58.110 --> 04:00:07.200 clark brown: board meetings by moving certain matters on the consent calendar last sentence doesn't bother me you're not giving the. 2319 04:00:07.740 --> 04:00:26.670 clark brown: President broad discretion to decide all the issues that are confronting the world, you were only given him discretion to determine what is good cause for an item to be moved from the consent calendar it's its discretion, regarding a tiny procedural issue, not a substantive issue. 2320 04:00:30.450 --> 04:00:32.220 james murez: Thank you Clark Robert go ahead, please. 2321 04:00:34.920 --> 04:00:38.220 robertthibodeau: I agree with Clark, is, I think this. 2322 04:00:39.390 --> 04:00:48.540 robertthibodeau: we've all sat through the meetings where you get kind of vindictive person who pulls everything off of consent, they don't have any idea of what they're doing. 2323 04:00:50.190 --> 04:00:55.860 robertthibodeau: I know there are a lot of people for consent items for legitimate reasons, and I have no problem sitting here. 2324 04:00:56.400 --> 04:01:00.960 robertthibodeau: And and hearing that those items, so I think that's all legitimate. 2325 04:01:01.440 --> 04:01:07.890 robertthibodeau: But when someone comes up to it and, and then they pull every single item off of consent and then they're not even around at the end of the meeting. 2326 04:01:08.340 --> 04:01:16.560 robertthibodeau: To hear the thing and it makes the 18 of US or 20 of us, you know kind of weed through stuff for another 45 minutes at the end. 2327 04:01:17.010 --> 04:01:25.440 robertthibodeau: I don't think that's part of the process, I think that that the you know somebody whether it's Jim or somebody else should have the discretion. 2328 04:01:25.890 --> 04:01:37.350 robertthibodeau: To go look this this was bs and let's all move on and you know they had their little temper tantrum but it shouldn't it shouldn't penalize everybody because because you got some nut out there. 2329 04:01:39.690 --> 04:01:41.910 james murez: Thank you, Robert Melissa go ahead, please. 2330 04:01:42.720 --> 04:01:57.690 melissadiner: yeah I just I mean last meeting that was ridiculous i'm so glad we didn't revisit you know his just cause for whatever reason, he was whoever that person was that can't even say who he is and made no sense. 2331 04:01:58.230 --> 04:02:09.630 melissadiner: You know that that's not okay yeah I definitely like to robert's point if someone wants to pull it off for any legitimate reason, regardless of whether I agree with them oh absolutely I have no problem with that. 2332 04:02:10.020 --> 04:02:26.070 melissadiner: But the President already has that discretion in the last sentence, so I don't know why that's an issue right he already has to make that judgment call, as our President, so I hope you guys will support this, so we can make our meetings as efficient as possible. 2333 04:02:27.540 --> 04:02:29.070 james murez: Thank you, definite no go ahead, please. 2334 04:02:29.790 --> 04:02:39.330 Daffodil Tyminski: um two things quickly one remember like the emotions that come to the board typically go through committee So these are things that are vetted they didn't come out of nowhere, and when we have a committee. 2335 04:02:39.990 --> 04:02:54.630 Daffodil Tyminski: That is really strong on one way, usually down, it was voted it goes to consent right so that that's something that we've always respected, and I feel like is important that that we continue with I would support this. 2336 04:02:56.040 --> 04:03:08.760 Daffodil Tyminski: I someone's gonna have to decide at some level whether something's good cause or not, and not everything can go to some of you to get a body to figure that out in the middle of a meeting, so it makes sense that if anyone's going to do that it's the Chair. 2337 04:03:10.980 --> 04:03:20.970 Daffodil Tyminski: So I would support this, I think I think it's also you know unfair sometimes the applicants when they come into a meeting thinking something's on consent and then all of a sudden. 2338 04:03:22.020 --> 04:03:37.200 Daffodil Tyminski: You know they they get out of consent and maybe get stuck at the end of the meeting and they're sitting for four hours waiting really because they got thrown off of consent on as someone mentioned a personal basis or petty basis or something like that, so I would vote for this. 2339 04:03:37.620 --> 04:03:39.630 james murez: Thank you i'm Sally go ahead. 2340 04:03:39.960 --> 04:03:42.150 Alley Bean: I don't know if I am I allowed to ask a question. 2341 04:03:43.380 --> 04:03:53.670 Alley Bean: Good my question would be or is just who in i'm sorry that I don't know the answer to this, but who previously a determined just caught good cause. 2342 04:03:55.590 --> 04:03:56.010 Alley Bean: So, like. 2343 04:03:57.060 --> 04:03:57.360 Alley Bean: Is this. 2344 04:03:58.590 --> 04:03:59.250 melissadiner: The President. 2345 04:03:59.610 --> 04:04:04.050 Alley Bean: So that was always the case, which has never been in writing is that what we're saying. 2346 04:04:04.590 --> 04:04:09.900 Alley Bean: Right i'm up but can someone else answer that is Is that true. 2347 04:04:10.770 --> 04:04:13.860 Daffodil Tyminski: Can I just jump in I forgot one thing and i'm sorry i'm just a little tired. 2348 04:04:14.790 --> 04:04:21.180 Daffodil Tyminski: One I don't think this was part of the standard before but to Jim correct me if i'm wrong but i'm pretty sure we vetted this with the city. 2349 04:04:22.050 --> 04:04:28.800 Daffodil Tyminski: We didn't just make this up for people who are saying this doesn't exist anywhere, no one doesn't like this i'm pretty sure the city weighed in on this language. 2350 04:04:29.070 --> 04:04:30.870 james murez: We believed our parliamentarian. 2351 04:04:32.730 --> 04:04:34.320 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah, but I believe they. 2352 04:04:34.530 --> 04:04:35.310 james murez: He taught he. 2353 04:04:35.610 --> 04:04:37.500 james murez: say he talked to pretty every. 2354 04:04:40.290 --> 04:04:49.500 james murez: But again, you know this, this was a I don't want to sound like a broken record here, but I send everybody a link to the video where this is she was discussed. 2355 04:04:50.550 --> 04:04:52.350 james murez: So i'm surprised that there are a lot of people that. 2356 04:04:53.820 --> 04:04:56.280 james murez: are familiar with what was discussed. 2357 04:04:56.310 --> 04:04:58.650 melissadiner: Okay, the President has always. 2358 04:04:58.740 --> 04:05:14.850 melissadiner: Yet, in the last 10 years i've been here has always been the one to say as soon as somebody said, for whatever reason guests, for taking that off he's always been the one to verify those items and read them back to me for note to pull them off of consent. 2359 04:05:15.930 --> 04:05:24.240 james murez: Family that's how I remember it as well, all the way back to DDB and President, which was before my new house, which was before Linda luxe which was before I but. 2360 04:05:24.360 --> 04:05:28.200 Alley Bean: Why are we, why are we making this a new rule if it already exists that's my only. 2361 04:05:28.200 --> 04:05:29.250 james murez: Question that's being worked. 2362 04:05:30.300 --> 04:05:30.570 Alley Bean: out. 2363 04:05:30.810 --> 04:05:38.310 james murez: we're not making a new rule we're just getting it in writing, I think that's what Mike asked the question, this is this is documenting it. 2364 04:05:38.880 --> 04:05:50.820 james murez: You know we're being challenged on a regular basis that we're not following the rules and and there are people that are out there, claiming that we're not allowed to do something, because it's not written well. 2365 04:05:50.940 --> 04:05:52.200 Alley Bean: This is robert's rules. 2366 04:05:52.530 --> 04:05:58.290 james murez: This is not robert's rules there's a pecking order Nick has alluded to this now twice tonight. 2367 04:05:58.650 --> 04:06:07.020 james murez: That we're modifying the standing roles and we're not adjusting the bylaws for the bylaws our our highest level of governing rules. 2368 04:06:07.410 --> 04:06:19.170 james murez: After that comes our standing rules and after that we default to robert's rules that to change the bylaws it's a lengthy process of approval. 2369 04:06:19.710 --> 04:06:26.940 james murez: And, and this is where done reviews what we're doing the Board has to approve it on a two thirds vote. 2370 04:06:27.330 --> 04:06:40.860 james murez: And and at some point in time after we submit it to done they're going to send it back to us with their additions or deletions as they see fit and and that's happened several times to us. 2371 04:06:42.300 --> 04:06:46.530 james murez: So, by putting it into the standing rule, now we get ready to update. 2372 04:06:46.800 --> 04:06:56.160 james murez: The bylaws will be able to move things into the bylaws that have already been adopted and people will be able to see gee they're working and then we can vote on them. 2373 04:06:56.460 --> 04:07:05.940 james murez: Moving them from standing rolls into the bylaws, so this is my feeling is this is just the first step in a longer process and that process is going to happen over the next two years. 2374 04:07:10.740 --> 04:07:11.820 james murez: Well let's let's take about. 2375 04:07:13.530 --> 04:07:16.110 james murez: That fidelity excuse me devotees your hands so up intentional. 2376 04:07:16.830 --> 04:07:18.210 Daffodil Tyminski: I know I apologize. 2377 04:07:18.360 --> 04:07:18.810 james murez: Thank you. 2378 04:07:19.380 --> 04:07:21.420 james murez: So let's take a boat oh yes. 2379 04:07:23.160 --> 04:07:23.880 Daffodil Tyminski: Oh yes. 2380 04:07:24.030 --> 04:07:25.440 melissadiner: I have so leaks. 2381 04:07:26.850 --> 04:07:27.510 Alix: No. 2382 04:07:29.730 --> 04:07:30.270 melissadiner: vicki. 2383 04:07:30.930 --> 04:07:31.350 Yes. 2384 04:07:33.120 --> 04:07:33.540 Sima Kostovetsky: Yes. 2385 04:07:40.830 --> 04:07:42.690 melissadiner: Yes, Mike bravo. 2386 04:07:49.620 --> 04:07:50.250 ElizabethClay: Yes. 2387 04:07:50.640 --> 04:07:52.050 clark brown: So, yes. 2388 04:07:52.620 --> 04:07:53.430 melissadiner: James rob. 2389 04:07:54.300 --> 04:07:54.600 Oh. 2390 04:08:00.270 --> 04:08:00.600 Nico Ruderman: No. 2391 04:08:01.710 --> 04:08:02.280 melissadiner: Clark. 2392 04:08:02.610 --> 04:08:04.140 melissadiner: Yes, Barber. 2393 04:08:05.010 --> 04:08:05.730 robertthibodeau: Yes. 2394 04:08:06.150 --> 04:08:07.560 Bruno Hernandez: For now, no. 2395 04:08:14.790 --> 04:08:15.210 Andrea Boccaletti: Yes. 2396 04:08:15.840 --> 04:08:16.500 cj. 2397 04:08:20.070 --> 04:08:20.760 melissadiner: cj. 2398 04:08:22.890 --> 04:08:23.910 CJ Cole: Sorry, no. 2399 04:08:28.830 --> 04:08:30.750 Chie Lunn: Can I change my vote to a now. 2400 04:08:31.800 --> 04:08:32.310 james murez: Who is that. 2401 04:08:33.030 --> 04:08:33.750 island. 2402 04:08:36.150 --> 04:08:40.470 melissadiner: Are we doing that I did that once before tonight, Denmark, can you change your vote. 2403 04:08:40.770 --> 04:08:41.880 james murez: yeah you can absolutely. 2404 04:08:50.940 --> 04:08:51.240 melissadiner: yeah. 2405 04:08:57.990 --> 04:08:59.370 melissadiner: Eight motion passes. 2406 04:09:01.710 --> 04:09:03.120 james murez: Thank you let's move along. 2407 04:09:06.480 --> 04:09:10.560 Daffodil Tyminski: um can we get someone else to read this one i'm really losing my voice. 2408 04:09:10.680 --> 04:09:13.140 Alix: I want me to it's a lakes. 2409 04:09:13.230 --> 04:09:13.740 james murez: Okay. 2410 04:09:13.800 --> 04:09:16.200 james murez: Thank you, on to 12 J. 2411 04:09:16.920 --> 04:09:18.030 Daffodil Tyminski: yo okay. 2412 04:09:19.050 --> 04:09:28.830 Alix: The dnc board shall create an ad hoc public safety and health committee with the following mission statement as approved by the administrative committee on October 11 2021. 2413 04:09:29.100 --> 04:09:36.840 Alix: The committee will terminate after one year mission, the Venice neighborhood Councils, public health and safety committee pH St. 2414 04:09:37.110 --> 04:09:49.260 Alix: mission is to increase all aspects of the personal safety and health Venice residents and visitors in concert with public officials, the Los Angeles city police and fire departments and all Los Angeles city departments. 2415 04:09:49.710 --> 04:09:55.650 Alix: With a similar mission, such as building and safety, sanitation and animal services, the pH. 2416 04:09:56.130 --> 04:10:11.790 Alix: D will recommend ways for the dnc to advise government agencies on measures to effectively improve stakeholder safety while promoting a direct department departmental to stakeholder collaborative approach encouraging Community based solutions to address local challenges. 2417 04:10:12.870 --> 04:10:14.790 james murez: Thank you do I hear a second. 2418 04:10:15.780 --> 04:10:16.140 clark brown: Okay, one. 2419 04:10:17.580 --> 04:10:18.180 james murez: Second. 2420 04:10:19.470 --> 04:10:32.790 Daffodil Tyminski: um so I wish i'd realized, we were on hold Jay when I said I wouldn't read it, but i've actually had a lot of outreach this week from folks that think that this is really way too broad, of a mission statement which was brought up in committee and. 2421 04:10:34.050 --> 04:10:41.490 Daffodil Tyminski: So I think it's something that may be at COM should work on more that, like to make a motion to send it back to add come. 2422 04:10:41.880 --> 04:10:43.740 james murez: So, are you making that motion. 2423 04:10:44.160 --> 04:10:46.170 james murez: Yes, okay second in it. 2424 04:10:46.440 --> 04:10:48.780 james murez: Jim Jim rob seconded it. 2425 04:10:50.700 --> 04:10:57.240 james murez: OK, so the motion on the floor is to send the. 2426 04:10:59.100 --> 04:11:00.810 melissadiner: mission it back to Africa. 2427 04:11:00.990 --> 04:11:02.850 james murez: To send the mission statement. 2428 04:11:03.030 --> 04:11:09.390 james murez: Back to add um did you want to include there that it was to blog is that part of it. 2429 04:11:09.510 --> 04:11:16.530 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah so I mean that that's the comment that I got quite a bit of outreach on and, obviously, you know we like the Committee but. 2430 04:11:16.800 --> 04:11:18.360 james murez: i'm just trying to get the motion word I. 2431 04:11:18.360 --> 04:11:21.930 melissadiner: got it send the mission statement back to add calm because it's too broad. 2432 04:11:22.440 --> 04:11:23.040 james murez: Thank you. 2433 04:11:23.310 --> 04:11:27.090 Soledad Ursua: That was the same mission statement, as the previous one, just so you guys know. 2434 04:11:27.180 --> 04:11:27.600 james murez: I do. 2435 04:11:28.740 --> 04:11:30.150 Soledad Ursua: But that's the same one that was. 2436 04:11:31.020 --> 04:11:43.110 james murez: yeah we understand you spell it out, I think, I think that that was That was the point that was meant okay let's let's take public comment um I will go ahead and read these capital, if you can just run the clock. 2437 04:11:43.440 --> 04:11:44.010 Daffodil Tyminski: I go. 2438 04:11:45.630 --> 04:11:45.870 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah. 2439 04:11:47.670 --> 04:11:49.290 james murez: So I have. 2440 04:11:50.400 --> 04:11:51.270 james murez: A. 2441 04:11:53.100 --> 04:11:59.310 james murez: Ending with Erica more starting with mark ridley puppet mark ridley puppet you're allowed to speak go ahead, you have. 2442 04:11:59.310 --> 04:12:01.080 Mark Ridley-Puppet: One again. 2443 04:12:02.550 --> 04:12:13.740 Mark Ridley-Puppet: In honor of the indicted one congratulations wherever you are so that's right, we were going to try to do this tonight, but you picked up on it, they did. 2444 04:12:14.220 --> 04:12:21.210 james murez: Yes, this was obviously Excuse me, Mr puppet you just speak to the topic okay you're not going to speak. 2445 04:12:21.420 --> 04:12:21.480 You. 2446 04:12:23.010 --> 04:12:29.340 Mark Ridley-Puppet: know the chair the chairs in an asshole mood tonight i'm very surprised on a custom night. 2447 04:12:30.390 --> 04:12:40.290 Mark Ridley-Puppet: So we were trying to get a committee to monitor the mark ridley Thomas Jose ways are indictments or calling in a public safety committee yes that's. 2448 04:12:40.650 --> 04:12:55.710 Mark Ridley-Puppet: What we do so, God puppet moves to amend the motion to have the bonus neighborhood Council federal indictment ad hoc committee to expire may 1 2023 by that time. 2449 04:12:56.880 --> 04:13:03.150 Mark Ridley-Puppet: Council members might be in prison where they always wanted to go it's. 2450 04:13:03.210 --> 04:13:04.350 james murez: A blue yeah. 2451 04:13:04.500 --> 04:13:06.270 Mark Ridley-Puppet: that's right it's been there Jerry. 2452 04:13:06.660 --> 04:13:07.740 james murez: Thank you very much. 2453 04:13:08.070 --> 04:13:08.310 well. 2454 04:13:09.960 --> 04:13:11.220 Mark Ridley-Puppet: Thank you, Sir, thank you. 2455 04:13:12.330 --> 04:13:16.110 james murez: Okay don't unmute yourself after i've cut you off or I might have to remove you. 2456 04:13:21.330 --> 04:13:22.800 james murez: Sean go ahead, please. 2457 04:13:31.470 --> 04:13:33.090 james murez: Sean you're allowed to speak go ahead. 2458 04:13:34.770 --> 04:13:38.910 Sean obrien: Okay, just popped up oh yeah great committee um. 2459 04:13:39.960 --> 04:13:48.690 Sean obrien: I hope you guys pass it tonight I love solid dad's work on it um my biggest thing with that committee is, we had the police, for an hour. 2460 04:13:49.140 --> 04:13:58.770 Sean obrien: And we have them for five minutes on this meeting so i'd love for you guys to pass this committee and then get the police back on there and then solid dad or somebody else can. 2461 04:13:59.640 --> 04:14:10.770 Sean obrien: recap, with the police said because we had them for an hour, and now we don't have anything we just get we just get a five minute thing but yeah I support the Safety Committee, thank you. 2462 04:14:12.030 --> 04:14:12.870 james murez: Thank you Sean. 2463 04:14:15.570 --> 04:14:17.790 james murez: Margaret malloy go ahead and place. 2464 04:14:19.440 --> 04:14:31.440 Margaret Molloy: So i'm glad you're sending back and so say I think that alcohol of saturation, especially in proximity to schools is an issue of public safety that soda has specifically spoken. 2465 04:14:32.070 --> 04:14:38.910 Margaret Molloy: In reaction to and said that that's monitored by the ABC well it's not if somebody crashed his car and killed somebody. 2466 04:14:39.570 --> 04:14:57.030 Margaret Molloy: The establishment, the served alcohol doesn't lose their license that's such a cop out, so please have a little broader perspective and include public safety that includes visibility of sidewalks now that we have all this encroachment into the street, you know how are things being monitored. 2467 04:14:57.270 --> 04:15:08.280 Margaret Molloy: And why are you approving endless CBS right beside schools like swimming saturating school kids with you know CBS. 2468 04:15:09.690 --> 04:15:10.170 Margaret Molloy: Thank you. 2469 04:15:10.440 --> 04:15:11.160 james murez: Thank you, Margaret. 2470 04:15:11.370 --> 04:15:18.360 Soledad Ursua: I just want to point out i've never stated a position on what Margaret malloy Sam so that's I would miss that. 2471 04:15:18.840 --> 04:15:21.030 james murez: Thank you were in public comment solid. 2472 04:15:22.200 --> 04:15:22.800 james murez: i'm. 2473 04:15:27.300 --> 04:15:29.640 james murez: Lisa redmen go ahead, please. 2474 04:15:30.150 --> 04:15:43.620 Lisa Redmond: yeah I threw up my hands before daffodil made her motion because I absolutely agree it's too broad have spoken on that before, so I guess, I agree with the motion to send it back to committee and tighten it up, thank you. 2475 04:15:44.700 --> 04:15:45.510 james murez: Thank you. 2476 04:15:49.530 --> 04:15:51.330 james murez: Helen fallon go ahead, please. 2477 04:15:53.280 --> 04:16:02.310 Helen Fallon: Well it's only true bra if you're a part of a homeless industrial complex, and I feel that no one can talk about homelessness as a public safety issue. 2478 04:16:02.790 --> 04:16:22.170 Helen Fallon: that's the objections here to not having a broadly based public health and safety committee that that that mission statement reflects exactly what is covered under public health and safety at the city level, and our committee should be looking at their corresponding City Council committees. 2479 04:16:23.430 --> 04:16:33.480 Helen Fallon: The pigeonholing of homelessness as if it is lives in its own little box and doesn't impact, public health and safety, the rats the trash or garbage etc. 2480 04:16:33.870 --> 04:16:41.040 Helen Fallon: is the only reason why people want to make a very narrow edition definition of what a public health and safety should represent. 2481 04:16:41.520 --> 04:16:57.210 Helen Fallon: So I say pass it I don't see why it should go back to add calm is will have to be resubmitted probably rewritten by me and I don't see the point I mean we don't need to pretend that homelessness is not impacting our health here, thank you. 2482 04:16:57.540 --> 04:16:58.200 Thank you. 2483 04:16:59.910 --> 04:17:00.540 james murez: i'm. 2484 04:17:03.360 --> 04:17:05.010 james murez: Elizabeth right go ahead, please. 2485 04:17:06.810 --> 04:17:11.610 Elizabeth Wright: I hardly agree that the mission statement is to broaden it go back. 2486 04:17:13.890 --> 04:17:14.370 Thank you. 2487 04:17:17.070 --> 04:17:18.480 james murez: Erica more or less speaker. 2488 04:17:20.940 --> 04:17:36.180 Erica Moore: hi I think in some respects, having a little broader is a positive thing, because then it's under an umbrella, which can cover things that we might not think about right now that come up, I hope you do pass it and I hope that we can find a way to. 2489 04:17:37.500 --> 04:17:50.070 Erica Moore: To get this going right away, because this is such an important committee and they did so many positive things solid and I really commend you for your hard efforts and i'm really excited to see what you can do for for our city and hector Thank you. 2490 04:17:52.170 --> 04:17:52.710 james murez: Thank you. 2491 04:17:54.120 --> 04:17:56.910 james murez: Okay, that was the last public comment. 2492 04:17:59.460 --> 04:18:04.080 james murez: um let's go to the panel, while we go ahead, please. 2493 04:18:04.800 --> 04:18:18.810 Alix: And, well, I still happen to support the mission statement is this i'm fine with a broad mission statement it worked in the past, but to address the issue of CVs those are through Lou path, not at the public health and safety. 2494 04:18:19.950 --> 04:18:27.210 Alix: committee and I don't think solid out has ever expressed a pov on that that review of all the land use issues and. 2495 04:18:28.920 --> 04:18:37.110 Alix: And we hear every CB that's come out on the city early notification reports so that would be the place to have those conversations and. 2496 04:18:38.640 --> 04:18:48.720 Alix: I look at the mess crazies on our streets and the fentanyl overdoses and I hardly think CBS or the issue for for our public health and safety so. 2497 04:18:49.770 --> 04:18:50.250 james murez: Thank you. 2498 04:18:50.310 --> 04:18:51.900 james murez: i'm sure. 2499 04:18:52.170 --> 04:18:53.400 james murez: Go ahead, please um. 2500 04:18:53.430 --> 04:18:58.740 Soledad Ursua: yeah I just want to reiterate that we've never taken on anything like that that's definitely not within this jurisdiction. 2501 04:18:59.520 --> 04:19:11.550 Soledad Ursua: With regard to it being brought I think that's there for a reason like when we had done some work for the storm drains that was such a complex issue we're talking about dealing with the county and then you know. 2502 04:19:12.240 --> 04:19:19.830 Soledad Ursua: there's just so many facets and everybody agreed that working on stuff for the storm drains was you know really great thing for the Community, but looking. 2503 04:19:20.490 --> 04:19:22.500 Soledad Ursua: crazy organizations that had to be. 2504 04:19:22.500 --> 04:19:29.580 Soledad Ursua: involved to do anything so there's some problems that we it's it's so hard to get anything done. 2505 04:19:30.180 --> 04:19:34.530 Soledad Ursua: That sometimes having a broad group with any basically any department that has. 2506 04:19:34.920 --> 04:19:43.470 Soledad Ursua: A safety aspect is sometimes you have to talk to all of them, and I was not the one that put in to renew this, but this is the same mission statement that we use last year. 2507 04:19:43.950 --> 04:19:57.630 Soledad Ursua: Last year ice, I saw input from so many different people to get this and I think it really worked well, so if you want to if you guys, want to have another public health and safety committee it was great to have all of these departments. 2508 04:19:59.190 --> 04:20:01.680 james murez: Thank you so dad Clark go ahead, please. 2509 04:20:01.920 --> 04:20:07.710 clark brown: So did I understand you correctly, that this is the exact same mission statement that you operated under last year. 2510 04:20:08.220 --> 04:20:10.320 Soledad Ursua: yeah and I hadn't gotten a lot of help. 2511 04:20:10.350 --> 04:20:14.820 Soledad Ursua: To you, so good, yes it actually worked really well last time. 2512 04:20:14.970 --> 04:20:18.600 clark brown: Last year was there any problem with the scope of the mission statement. 2513 04:20:19.920 --> 04:20:22.500 Soledad Ursua: No and see we didn't take on any kind of alcohol. 2514 04:20:23.040 --> 04:20:34.050 Soledad Ursua: related stuff though that's definitely lupus stuff so we really stuck to because, and also a coven we it was really helpful to have you know la county because they're the ones that were doing a lot of the covert outreach. 2515 04:20:34.620 --> 04:20:48.240 Soledad Ursua: So, really, you know even even with like building and safety there's just any department, where they had a similar mission to protect public health and safety of how it really works well, because sometimes you need to talk to so many different departments. 2516 04:20:48.840 --> 04:20:54.960 clark brown: So, so, in practice, the committee carried out a narrower function. 2517 04:20:56.250 --> 04:20:57.510 clark brown: mission statement allowed. 2518 04:20:58.530 --> 04:21:08.520 Soledad Ursua: um no it's just what happens is all these different departments end up giving you a run around and they say, well, you have to go talk to them, or you have to go to talk to them or that's the county or that's the state. 2519 04:21:08.910 --> 04:21:20.790 Soledad Ursua: And so that's the real hard part for residents so as long as if it's just tailored to something with similar missions, it should be broad enough because everybody passes the buck when it comes to accountability. 2520 04:21:21.960 --> 04:21:24.960 james murez: Okay let's Park, do you get your question answered. 2521 04:21:25.080 --> 04:21:25.530 clark brown: Yes, I did. 2522 04:21:25.560 --> 04:21:30.030 james murez: Thank you good Thank you Al you have a question go ahead yeah your comment you wanted to make. 2523 04:21:30.840 --> 04:21:31.650 Alley Bean: yeah it's. 2524 04:21:31.980 --> 04:21:34.620 Alley Bean: more of a comment I guess um and I just like. 2525 04:21:34.860 --> 04:21:44.760 Alley Bean: What I don't understand is is if the mission statements exactly the same, and I think everyone pretty much agrees that that committee was very robust and got a lot of. 2526 04:21:45.180 --> 04:21:58.500 Alley Bean: motions past and a lot of lot of participation on the part of stakeholders and I just feel like there's no point in sending it back to add calm, because it was already approved last time and it's a very crucial. 2527 04:21:59.460 --> 04:22:10.440 Alley Bean: You know I think both the homeless Committee, you know and that got approved and I, and I think this needs to get approved and I just think that we need to be addressing all of these issues, you know ASAP that's just my my two cents. 2528 04:22:10.770 --> 04:22:14.040 Alley Bean: And since I was already approved last time I don't know why would go back. 2529 04:22:14.490 --> 04:22:17.610 james murez: Thank you ellie NICO did you have your hand up, it was there for a minute. 2530 04:22:18.960 --> 04:22:20.490 Nico Ruderman: No, it was an accident sorry. 2531 04:22:21.150 --> 04:22:23.910 james murez: um anybody else had their hand up. 2532 04:22:25.080 --> 04:22:26.190 james murez: daffodil go ahead yeah. 2533 04:22:26.640 --> 04:22:37.080 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah um So this is the exact same mission statement that was passed in the last board and that mission statement does reflect what the city believes is public safety. 2534 04:22:37.530 --> 04:22:42.630 Daffodil Tyminski: And I think that was very persuasive and we were an ad come to passing this mission statement, as is. 2535 04:22:43.170 --> 04:22:52.680 Daffodil Tyminski: At least it was to me, and I think others as well, but i've gotten a lot of outreach over the last week, I think there are a lot of people that feel that the last committee. 2536 04:22:53.190 --> 04:23:05.550 Daffodil Tyminski: was just all over the place, and doing all kinds of things and it's not homeless stuff it's it's a lot of different things, a lot of that may have been the pandemic and some committees weren't functioning or maybe doing as much but. 2537 04:23:06.750 --> 04:23:21.300 Daffodil Tyminski: You know, conceivably I don't believe Helen is going to share it I don't believe soledad wants to do it, no one actually has stepped up to share it as far as I know, at this point, and so, in light of the various concerns about what that committee was doing. 2538 04:23:22.530 --> 04:23:25.410 Daffodil Tyminski: That, I think we're not voice at the icon meeting. 2539 04:23:26.610 --> 04:23:29.670 Daffodil Tyminski: that's why I thought it made sense to at least bring it back and discuss it. 2540 04:23:31.860 --> 04:23:37.560 Daffodil Tyminski: I was, by the way, in full disclosure I think in like 2008 or nine the originator of the public safety committee. 2541 04:23:38.970 --> 04:23:48.030 Daffodil Tyminski: back when I was on the board before, so I love the idea of it, I love the committee I think it's very important but I, you know hearing a lot of concerns about. 2542 04:23:48.600 --> 04:23:56.280 Daffodil Tyminski: it's the the breath of its mission and and whether or not you know we need that in light, we have committees that say, for example, they don't have in the rest of the state. 2543 04:23:59.100 --> 04:24:00.390 james murez: Okay um. 2544 04:24:02.610 --> 04:24:05.040 james murez: guess my only comment that I would throw in just to. 2545 04:24:06.240 --> 04:24:08.940 james murez: say something um you know. 2546 04:24:10.830 --> 04:24:15.330 james murez: There was Why am I getting an echo in the last term, there was a. 2547 04:24:16.560 --> 04:24:27.480 james murez: conflict between the this committee and and the homeless committee and I think that part of the discussion was also, how can we prevent that from happening, we don't want to have conflicts between committees. 2548 04:24:28.980 --> 04:24:39.870 james murez: I personally believe that a lot of the stuff that's being talked to it was talked about in the committee when Sola dad was leading it could have been handled through the neighborhood committed. 2549 04:24:40.440 --> 04:24:48.840 james murez: that a lot of those issues are really neighborhood issues and and we just didn't have a neighborhood committee in the last term so. 2550 04:24:50.610 --> 04:24:52.710 james murez: Okay let's let's uh. 2551 04:24:52.950 --> 04:24:54.090 CJ Cole: I have my hand down. 2552 04:24:54.180 --> 04:24:56.040 james murez: yeah you just put it up okay go ahead. 2553 04:24:56.340 --> 04:24:59.460 CJ Cole: Okay, the only thing I can say is that you know if. 2554 04:25:00.540 --> 04:25:13.410 CJ Cole: I have to say, the last year about the only Committee, other than a little peck that I went to and I go to a lot of them real regularly, it was the only one that ever gotten anything accomplished. 2555 04:25:13.770 --> 04:25:20.730 CJ Cole: I enjoyed listening to the least I enjoyed listening to the fire department, you know it's. 2556 04:25:21.360 --> 04:25:32.130 CJ Cole: You can sit and you know I think right now that we're getting into personalities, and the reason why this one doesn't want to go right now, but I think we should just vote it and get it going. 2557 04:25:33.120 --> 04:25:47.100 CJ Cole: And you know so far, the homeless committee hasn't even met so I don't think we're worried about whether this is going to step on the homeless committee um so I just think we should go ahead and vote, it can be done with it. 2558 04:25:47.250 --> 04:25:49.230 james murez: Today, are you volunteering to charity. 2559 04:25:51.330 --> 04:25:54.750 CJ Cole: Well, I guess, if I don't have to use zoom. 2560 04:25:55.380 --> 04:25:58.230 james murez: know you have to do zoom you have to follow all the rules to. 2561 04:26:00.270 --> 04:26:02.190 Soledad Ursua: Your Committee, if you want. 2562 04:26:03.930 --> 04:26:04.740 CJ Cole: To help me. 2563 04:26:04.770 --> 04:26:05.310 Soledad Ursua: See yeah. 2564 04:26:06.300 --> 04:26:09.480 Alley Bean: I thought Helen fallon offered to chair, it is that not happening i'm. 2565 04:26:09.510 --> 04:26:11.700 james murez: confused yeah actually denied Jerry. 2566 04:26:12.270 --> 04:26:13.530 Soledad Ursua: i'm gonna work. 2567 04:26:14.220 --> 04:26:16.380 james murez: hmm so see my you want to go ahead. 2568 04:26:17.460 --> 04:26:24.630 Sima Kostovetsky: I just I just want to ask like who wants to chair this because I think that's you know, important. 2569 04:26:25.560 --> 04:26:29.760 james murez: All right, any other comment oh Chai, you have the judge you have your hand up go ahead. 2570 04:26:30.330 --> 04:26:34.080 Chie Lunn: Yes, if cj leads the Committee i'll definitely join as well. 2571 04:26:34.650 --> 04:26:35.070 james murez: Okay. 2572 04:26:35.370 --> 04:26:36.180 james murez: But you don't want to leave. 2573 04:26:36.510 --> 04:26:38.820 CJ Cole: me a call share two chairs. 2574 04:26:39.540 --> 04:26:39.810 I. 2575 04:26:41.820 --> 04:26:44.700 Alley Bean: think she denied it either, so I think she'd co chair it, I mean. 2576 04:26:45.000 --> 04:26:46.380 CJ Cole: yeah yeah I. 2577 04:26:47.940 --> 04:26:53.730 james murez: asked him out everybody I got an email from her that she's not interested in sharing, so you know. 2578 04:26:54.210 --> 04:26:54.510 I. 2579 04:26:55.920 --> 04:26:58.770 james murez: chose not to Melissa you have your hand up. 2580 04:27:00.000 --> 04:27:11.550 melissadiner: yeah I mean you covered it, I was just gonna say if we vote on it we're voting on something that no one can go to meetings, because no one's sharing it so what, why not just delay until people figure out who. 2581 04:27:11.550 --> 04:27:13.470 melissadiner: can share it but for. 2582 04:27:13.530 --> 04:27:14.130 melissadiner: How you wish. 2583 04:27:14.610 --> 04:27:31.050 james murez: I mean let's be let's be clear about this, we can vote this committee in that's very broad and has a lot of responsibility and a lot of things that have been done in the past by somebody who was very aggressive and very instrumental in making it happen. 2584 04:27:32.970 --> 04:27:51.240 james murez: And we can have make that we can make that vote happen and and and approve the committee as its described, but I don't have anybody to appoint remember the President appoints who the Chair is I don't have anybody that I can appoint it's going to be the point person to take that responsibility. 2585 04:27:52.320 --> 04:27:52.740 james murez: Okay. 2586 04:27:53.370 --> 04:27:54.900 Alley Bean: AJ just said that they would. 2587 04:27:58.410 --> 04:27:59.310 Alley Bean: guide in you. 2588 04:28:02.400 --> 04:28:06.000 Alley Bean: Sorry didn't you just say that you do it with cj if she did it. 2589 04:28:07.050 --> 04:28:11.400 Chie Lunn: If she took the lead, yes and sold, that would help us out yes. 2590 04:28:11.490 --> 04:28:17.550 Alley Bean: And Helen fallon apparently never said that he's I mean she's here, you should ask her. 2591 04:28:18.510 --> 04:28:21.210 james murez: I have an email from a rally i'm not going to dispute it. 2592 04:28:23.190 --> 04:28:23.850 Alley Bean: Well she's. 2593 04:28:23.880 --> 04:28:26.910 james murez: Just the two of you do the two of you want to co chair. 2594 04:28:29.040 --> 04:28:29.700 james murez: cj. 2595 04:28:30.150 --> 04:28:30.810 james murez: Or you want to go. 2596 04:28:30.840 --> 04:28:32.010 CJ Cole: Here, with somebody. 2597 04:28:32.310 --> 04:28:33.240 CJ Cole: God I just. 2598 04:28:33.390 --> 04:28:34.950 CJ Cole: I just can't do everything. 2599 04:28:35.220 --> 04:28:36.720 james murez: I understand you don't want to. 2600 04:28:37.200 --> 04:28:43.920 CJ Cole: Do was still put my effort into the standing rules and whatever because we're getting nowhere there. 2601 04:28:45.090 --> 04:28:45.570 james murez: Okay. 2602 04:28:47.070 --> 04:28:55.260 Daffodil Tyminski: I mean Clearly this is not well thought out right that's the whole point here is the mission statement who's going to take responsibility. 2603 04:28:56.220 --> 04:29:04.440 Daffodil Tyminski: You know if people want to step up and volunteer and, by the way, there's a lot of committee members, a lot of board members that are not really volunteering, please let me know. 2604 04:29:05.910 --> 04:29:07.800 Alley Bean: nolan this thing that she volunteered. 2605 04:29:07.980 --> 04:29:12.930 james murez: And we have to do there's enough to do this, one one, at a time one, at a time one, at a time. 2606 04:29:15.390 --> 04:29:18.390 james murez: We have three hands up for hands up. 2607 04:29:19.500 --> 04:29:22.110 james murez: Melissa your hand is up go ahead, please. 2608 04:29:22.410 --> 04:29:24.690 melissadiner: I know I don't need to talk okay. 2609 04:29:24.750 --> 04:29:25.830 james murez: i'm a lower your hand. 2610 04:29:26.460 --> 04:29:27.900 james murez: see my your hand is up. 2611 04:29:33.840 --> 04:29:34.380 Sima Kostovetsky: order. 2612 04:29:34.590 --> 04:29:48.720 Sima Kostovetsky: um, is it possible that we bring this back next meeting when we have the Chair situation figured out with that be amenable is that something that just in question. 2613 04:29:48.870 --> 04:29:52.440 james murez: We can vote it up today and create the committee. 2614 04:29:53.940 --> 04:29:58.050 james murez: And not appoint the Chair until we have a chair, I mean i'm not going to appoint somebody that's not going to do it. 2615 04:29:58.410 --> 04:30:00.750 Sima Kostovetsky: But there seems to be two issues right there's the. 2616 04:30:02.520 --> 04:30:03.990 Sima Kostovetsky: scope of the committee so. 2617 04:30:04.440 --> 04:30:13.680 james murez: The appointment is completely on me if we create the broad scope, then we have to have somebody that's going to be willing to take on the responsibility of the broad scope. 2618 04:30:14.940 --> 04:30:18.450 james murez: If we narrow the scope that we maybe we can find somebody. 2619 04:30:18.450 --> 04:30:18.930 james murez: it's mostly. 2620 04:30:19.290 --> 04:30:21.180 CJ Cole: A chair least a culture. 2621 04:30:24.120 --> 04:30:25.320 james murez: Okay Andre. 2622 04:30:25.680 --> 04:30:35.370 CJ Cole: yeah I am on the phone now quote I never told him I did not want it to chair, unquote. 2623 04:30:37.200 --> 04:30:37.650 james murez: Okay. 2624 04:30:38.580 --> 04:30:39.090 Thank you. 2625 04:30:41.400 --> 04:30:41.790 james murez: Andre. 2626 04:30:42.210 --> 04:30:47.580 Andrea Boccaletti: yeah my hand was just to be the that I would definitely definitely love to serve on this committee as well. 2627 04:30:48.060 --> 04:30:59.190 james murez: Okay, thank you let's stick to let's stick to the issue on the table, which is whether or not we're going to vote to send this thing back or not and that's really all we're talking about. 2628 04:31:00.450 --> 04:31:00.930 She. 2629 04:31:02.010 --> 04:31:02.400 james murez: Go ahead. 2630 04:31:03.180 --> 04:31:13.920 Alley Bean: No, I mean i'm just saying we've got like all these people wanting to do this, I think it's the you know, was the one committee that really got a lot accomplished and we're in great need of. 2631 04:31:14.550 --> 04:31:28.800 Alley Bean: You know, God knows, safety in tennis right now, so I don't see any reason not to have this go forward and apparently Helen wants to do at cj wants to do it guy wants to do it, Andrea I would say, definitely let's vote it up. 2632 04:31:29.700 --> 04:31:30.360 james murez: Okay, thank you. 2633 04:31:30.870 --> 04:31:31.980 james murez: holly go ahead, please. 2634 04:31:33.990 --> 04:31:36.240 Alix: Sorry, our comments were addressed. 2635 04:31:39.300 --> 04:31:40.860 james murez: daffodil go ahead, please. 2636 04:31:41.460 --> 04:31:45.210 Daffodil Tyminski: I just wanted to comment I don't think there's any dispute about having the committee. 2637 04:31:45.900 --> 04:31:53.730 Daffodil Tyminski: For all of these folks that are stepping up to say something now, I wish you had said something before but really that's immaterial the issue on the floor is the breath of the committee. 2638 04:31:54.390 --> 04:32:05.430 Daffodil Tyminski: And I merely raise the issue because there's a lot of people out here the think it's way too broad and we really have to have a fully robust functioning of all the committee's. 2639 04:32:06.630 --> 04:32:13.860 Daffodil Tyminski: Not just this one, and I think add calm had a different perspective that was presented to us when we had the outcome meeting. 2640 04:32:15.330 --> 04:32:17.490 james murez: Thank you Danielle Melissa let's take a vote. 2641 04:32:20.790 --> 04:32:23.670 Alix: can clarify we're voting on the amendment correct. 2642 04:32:23.730 --> 04:32:24.030 james murez: that's right. 2643 04:32:24.090 --> 04:32:27.060 james murez: The minute The amendment is to send it back to committee. 2644 04:32:29.670 --> 04:32:31.320 Daffodil Tyminski: to refine the mission statement. 2645 04:32:31.920 --> 04:32:33.930 james murez: Correct Thank you know. 2646 04:32:35.310 --> 04:32:36.000 melissadiner: Jim. 2647 04:32:36.390 --> 04:32:37.950 melissadiner: Yes, that's it oh. 2648 04:32:38.490 --> 04:32:40.830 melissadiner: Yes, yes, the leaks. 2649 04:32:42.180 --> 04:32:42.600 Alix: No. 2650 04:32:44.820 --> 04:32:45.240 melissadiner: Yes. 2651 04:32:45.960 --> 04:32:48.030 Sima Kostovetsky: Sema abstain. 2652 04:32:57.390 --> 04:32:58.140 Alley Bean: No. 2653 04:33:04.470 --> 04:33:05.040 Back to me. 2654 04:33:08.280 --> 04:33:08.640 Mike Bravo: Though. 2655 04:33:13.080 --> 04:33:13.530 ElizabethClay: No. 2656 04:33:17.670 --> 04:33:18.120 Soledad Ursua: No. 2657 04:33:20.970 --> 04:33:22.590 melissadiner: i'm James rob. 2658 04:33:26.340 --> 04:33:26.940 melissadiner: rob. 2659 04:33:28.800 --> 04:33:30.180 james murez: don't see him anymore. 2660 04:33:30.630 --> 04:33:33.570 melissadiner: Okay 1030. 2661 04:33:33.930 --> 04:33:35.160 james murez: let's see if he's in the. 2662 04:33:35.430 --> 04:33:36.330 CP fellows. 2663 04:33:39.360 --> 04:33:39.660 Nico Ruderman: know. 2664 04:33:40.590 --> 04:33:44.850 clark brown: Clark there when you say send it back to committee, you mean send it back to add calm. 2665 04:33:45.210 --> 04:33:46.830 clark brown: yeah no. 2666 04:33:51.090 --> 04:33:51.540 robertthibodeau: No. 2667 04:33:53.760 --> 04:33:54.330 melissadiner: For now. 2668 04:33:54.780 --> 04:33:55.230 Now. 2669 04:33:57.540 --> 04:33:57.930 Andrea Boccaletti: No. 2670 04:33:58.530 --> 04:34:00.330 CJ Cole: cj no. 2671 04:34:03.600 --> 04:34:04.110 melissadiner: hi. 2672 04:34:33.720 --> 04:34:36.420 melissadiner: Wine because James drop is not here, thank you. 2673 04:34:36.750 --> 04:34:40.050 james murez: Okay motion Wales, now the motion. 2674 04:34:41.820 --> 04:34:44.160 james murez: To approve the committee spec on the floor. 2675 04:34:47.880 --> 04:34:49.470 james murez: let's take public comment on that. 2676 04:34:52.770 --> 04:34:57.720 james murez: Anybody have their hand up speak now it's getting late, we need to be done here in a few minutes. 2677 04:35:00.360 --> 04:35:03.930 james murez: Seven people want to speak on this side of my goodness. 2678 04:35:06.180 --> 04:35:10.050 james murez: Okay i'm closing public comment after Elizabeth right. 2679 04:35:11.460 --> 04:35:12.750 james murez: Lisa redmond. 2680 04:35:13.890 --> 04:35:14.700 james murez: Go ahead, please. 2681 04:35:15.660 --> 04:35:19.830 Lisa Redmond: I am against this mission statement because it is too broad. 2682 04:35:25.980 --> 04:35:26.400 james murez: i'm. 2683 04:35:28.050 --> 04:35:31.350 james murez: Mark ridley puppet go ahead, please. 2684 04:35:33.180 --> 04:35:48.060 Mark Ridley-Puppet: Well done, yes, and thank you to my confederates, then we will know, take the world's a ways are and work readily no name indictments into this brand new committee and examine the documents more carefully. 2685 04:35:48.630 --> 04:36:02.910 Mark Ridley-Puppet: Well, how many police officers for agents FBI agents state attorney general's and also da investigators, who cannot really unsafely come to your committee, under the guise of public safety. 2686 04:36:03.360 --> 04:36:18.120 Mark Ridley-Puppet: and help with the snatching Thank you to everybody, I appoint my co chair of the committee and don't buffer secret chair is up until a secretary do I have a second. 2687 04:36:19.350 --> 04:36:19.770 james murez: and gives. 2688 04:36:20.010 --> 04:36:21.090 james murez: Do Thank you. 2689 04:36:22.950 --> 04:36:23.790 james murez: Mr puppet. 2690 04:36:28.290 --> 04:36:33.840 james murez: i'm next speaker character more go ahead, please. 2691 04:36:35.280 --> 04:36:46.560 Erica Moore: hi, as I said earlier, I don't think it's actually a good thing to be broad I also think, in saying that I also think it doesn't mean that they have to take on 10,000 different issues. 2692 04:36:46.830 --> 04:36:51.300 Erica Moore: I just think having that autonomy to be able to do that is a good idea, because again. 2693 04:36:51.690 --> 04:37:00.480 Erica Moore: You don't know what kind of safety issues could present themselves, but we don't even know about right now I mean you know some weird things happen that you don't expect so. 2694 04:37:00.900 --> 04:37:12.570 Erica Moore: I think, having that freedom is a big thing I think we need to get the show on the road you got Helen he wants to do it, you got tj wants to do other people that are ready to step up and be honest committee let's go Thank you. 2695 04:37:14.130 --> 04:37:19.710 james murez: Thank you Sean Oh, Brian go ahead, please oh. 2696 04:37:20.730 --> 04:37:22.890 james murez: We there go ahead. 2697 04:37:24.330 --> 04:37:28.530 Sean obrien: Oh yeah all the support the motion support the committee let's do it tonight, thank you. 2698 04:37:33.060 --> 04:37:36.330 james murez: Thank you Sean herrick more go ahead, please. 2699 04:37:39.420 --> 04:37:40.290 CJ Cole: don't smoke. 2700 04:37:41.670 --> 04:37:43.020 james murez: Oh, she did yeah. 2701 04:37:43.830 --> 04:37:44.220 Erica Moore: I just. 2702 04:37:45.210 --> 04:37:50.250 james murez: spoke i'm sorry they're moving around i'm sorry i'm. 2703 04:37:52.140 --> 04:37:53.700 james murez: Nick go ahead place. 2704 04:37:54.990 --> 04:38:05.520 Nick Antonicello: yeah it's not a broad it's a question of some committees are going to overlap that's just the way it is in parking almost is other committees have the tendency to overlap so. 2705 04:38:06.240 --> 04:38:15.510 Nick Antonicello: This is the best committee that the nc had in my 12 or 13 years be involved and you reward success, you know eliminate Thank you. 2706 04:38:18.330 --> 04:38:19.320 james murez: Thank you. 2707 04:38:21.210 --> 04:38:23.640 james murez: i'm Yolanda go ahead place. 2708 04:38:25.020 --> 04:38:37.560 Yolanda Gonzalez: Yes, I I think what we ought to do is, if you do send it back to committee, why don't we get an input of five issues that we really want on this committee. 2709 04:38:38.190 --> 04:38:52.500 Yolanda Gonzalez: We can go beyond so many things that need to be fixed, but if we get five things we really want to accomplish they will be accomplished, because if people want to work on this committee, we will get it done Thank you. 2710 04:38:53.700 --> 04:38:54.660 james murez: Thank you. 2711 04:38:57.360 --> 04:38:58.260 james murez: i'm. 2712 04:39:01.500 --> 04:39:02.580 james murez: Helen go ahead. 2713 04:39:04.230 --> 04:39:11.370 Helen Fallon: Just to clarify the record Jim I did not refuse the chair of this committee, the only email I had with you. 2714 04:39:11.730 --> 04:39:20.070 Helen Fallon: was when you said you to another point I suggested you check with board members and previous committee members, so I was ever asked to chair i'm. 2715 04:39:20.340 --> 04:39:27.000 Helen Fallon: would love to participate again on this committee, I think we did a lot of good work, I think the previous speakers comment about. 2716 04:39:27.300 --> 04:39:40.350 Helen Fallon: yeah, we need to have this Canadian place and we need to hear from the public what the safety issues they want to see addressed are and we tried to do that, as a committee that's why there was a lot of public participation, and again I don't appreciate you telling. 2717 04:39:41.430 --> 04:39:48.300 Helen Fallon: Completely misrepresenting me Jim That was really inappropriate and I think you all, be a public apology for that. 2718 04:39:49.800 --> 04:39:55.800 Helen Fallon: So please vote to pass this and move it on is obviously a great deal of interest by the Board and the stakeholder. 2719 04:39:59.610 --> 04:40:00.630 james murez: Thank you. 2720 04:40:01.830 --> 04:40:02.670 james murez: Elizabeth. 2721 04:40:04.740 --> 04:40:06.150 james murez: Elizabeth right go ahead place. 2722 04:40:08.730 --> 04:40:21.120 Elizabeth Wright: The fact that the committee voluntarily restricted or or narrowed its own scope doesn't mean that will happen in the future, it is still to broaden to go back to come. 2723 04:40:23.820 --> 04:40:33.990 james murez: Thank you Elizabeth and that closes public comment Margaret your hand was up but it came up after I already had announced to the last speaker was going to be. 2724 04:40:36.240 --> 04:40:41.490 james murez: So, having said that let's turn it over to the panel. 2725 04:40:42.510 --> 04:40:55.620 james murez: We can now debate the item, I will say that, in the message that I sent to hell and I read the message as she was not interested, I asked her who should share it and she wrote back. 2726 04:40:56.130 --> 04:41:08.130 james murez: As she said it, she commented I should ask one of the people on the board that wants to do it so she wasn't volunteering for it, I gave her the opportunity to volunteer for it and I certainly wasn't going to impose it on her. 2727 04:41:10.200 --> 04:41:17.880 james murez: Having said that, let us have anybody on the committee that wants to speak on this before we take a vote raise your hand now. 2728 04:41:19.650 --> 04:41:23.250 james murez: Seeing no hands let's take a vote, Melissa take a roll call, please. 2729 04:41:24.630 --> 04:41:29.610 Vicki Halliday: explain this is to have the committee or not, or what. 2730 04:41:29.790 --> 04:41:33.300 james murez: To have the committee as proposed here, I can put the mission. 2731 04:41:33.300 --> 04:41:34.500 james murez: Statement okay that's fine. 2732 04:41:34.740 --> 04:41:36.960 Vicki Halliday: it's it's the mission statement right. 2733 04:41:36.990 --> 04:41:42.780 james murez: You were approving the committee the mission statement was already approved in add COM. 2734 04:41:42.930 --> 04:41:49.110 james murez: Okay, all we're doing is approving to have the create the creation of the committee. 2735 04:41:49.590 --> 04:41:51.270 melissadiner: Okay, can I take a roll call. 2736 04:41:51.540 --> 04:41:54.720 melissadiner: Please Jim yes Africa. 2737 04:41:55.170 --> 04:41:56.910 melissadiner: Yes, yes leaks. 2738 04:41:57.060 --> 04:41:58.320 Alix: Yes, vicki. 2739 04:41:58.650 --> 04:42:00.060 melissadiner: No Sema. 2740 04:42:04.530 --> 04:42:04.980 Sima Kostovetsky: Yes. 2741 04:42:06.270 --> 04:42:06.870 Alley Bean: Yes. 2742 04:42:07.020 --> 04:42:08.340 Chie Lunn: hi yes. 2743 04:42:08.760 --> 04:42:10.230 Mike Bravo: Mike yes. 2744 04:42:12.090 --> 04:42:12.630 ElizabethClay: Yes. 2745 04:42:13.680 --> 04:42:14.220 Soledad Ursua: Yes. 2746 04:42:14.310 --> 04:42:15.000 The mob. 2747 04:42:18.210 --> 04:42:18.570 melissadiner: sneak. 2748 04:42:21.030 --> 04:42:21.510 Nico Ruderman: Yes. 2749 04:42:23.610 --> 04:42:24.240 melissadiner: Clark. 2750 04:42:25.170 --> 04:42:25.710 Yes. 2751 04:42:26.940 --> 04:42:27.450 robertthibodeau: Yes. 2752 04:42:28.440 --> 04:42:28.980 Yes. 2753 04:42:30.810 --> 04:42:31.230 Andrea Boccaletti: Yes. 2754 04:42:31.440 --> 04:42:33.060 CJ Cole: cj yes. 2755 04:42:37.980 --> 04:42:47.490 melissadiner: 16. 2756 04:42:49.590 --> 04:42:50.700 melissadiner: One zero. 2757 04:42:52.950 --> 04:42:59.580 james murez: Further 1716 one zero yeah that sounds right that makes 17 good job i'm. 2758 04:43:01.020 --> 04:43:02.010 james murez: Like think. 2759 04:43:03.900 --> 04:43:06.000 CJ Cole: I thought two people voted against it. 2760 04:43:08.490 --> 04:43:11.820 Soledad Ursua: I love to be a committee Member if anybody wants to chair. 2761 04:43:12.060 --> 04:43:14.490 james murez: Okay we're on to Item number. 2762 04:43:16.590 --> 04:43:26.550 james murez: board member announcements on subject matters within the dnc jurisdiction solid had go right ahead, this is this is your opportunity to speak about whatever it is you wanted to say. 2763 04:43:27.090 --> 04:43:28.890 Soledad Ursua: Oh, and i've just done it. 2764 04:43:28.980 --> 04:43:30.600 Soledad Ursua: Whoever the Chair is I love to. 2765 04:43:30.600 --> 04:43:33.390 Soledad Ursua: serve on the committee that's really it that's all I am. 2766 04:43:34.230 --> 04:43:34.920 Okay. 2767 04:43:37.530 --> 04:43:39.990 james murez: Do we have any Let me turn off the screen sharing. 2768 04:43:41.250 --> 04:43:50.820 james murez: You know we're going to make it out before 11, I guess, my question to all of you is is what did you think about starting at six o'clock instead of seven o'clock so we can get to sleep at a normal our. 2769 04:43:52.740 --> 04:43:57.450 james murez: ICC jays hand is up loses his hand is up and everybody's hands are up okay great. 2770 04:43:57.540 --> 04:43:58.980 Alix: The winter bad in the summer. 2771 04:44:00.810 --> 04:44:06.870 james murez: we'll figure that out when the time comes, okay um daffodil you have your hand up go ahead. 2772 04:44:07.530 --> 04:44:17.250 Daffodil Tyminski: um yeah I like to 6pm start time but really if anyone has items, they would like on the agenda of the neighborhood Committee, please email me at VP. 2773 04:44:17.850 --> 04:44:34.050 Daffodil Tyminski: At Venice nc.org we can't guarantee everything will get on right away, but we have some requests and a lot of good ideas, so I just want to make sure that as we get going we're addressing the concerns that everyone is so again is VP at Venice nc dot work. 2774 04:44:35.460 --> 04:44:38.070 james murez: Thank you down i'm Mike go ahead. 2775 04:44:39.360 --> 04:44:56.280 Mike Bravo: yeah for those who missed it last month late September September 29 the first Baptist church of Venice was granted historic designation and it's what they call the supporters of help the Community oakland community and vast history in general, so thank you. 2776 04:44:58.500 --> 04:45:00.480 james murez: Thank you Mike Andre go ahead. 2777 04:45:01.530 --> 04:45:07.680 Andrea Boccaletti: yeah just got a couple concerns and some things that people in my neighborhood are really concerned about and I don't know. 2778 04:45:08.280 --> 04:45:19.260 Andrea Boccaletti: Who to address this with and what committees, but at the end of my street i've got a building that was zoned for to individual properties now it's turned into a hostile. 2779 04:45:19.920 --> 04:45:32.100 Andrea Boccaletti: it's actually called the Venice hostile, you can go online, you can book a room tonight, they got pods in there it's unbelievable and the other issue is just how. 2780 04:45:33.480 --> 04:45:42.630 Andrea Boccaletti: street lighting, I mean they didn't start three street lights outside my frickin window on pema avenue just all in the last two and a half weeks. 2781 04:45:43.080 --> 04:45:49.650 Andrea Boccaletti: So now, I can see five streetlights from my front window here and I don't understand what the hell is going on, like who's. 2782 04:45:50.100 --> 04:46:01.740 Andrea Boccaletti: Call bones office, no one gets back to you, and nothing happens I don't know what committees to just it's just like we're losing we're losing our Community here in a big big big way. 2783 04:46:03.690 --> 04:46:05.160 Thanks, thank you. 2784 04:46:09.600 --> 04:46:10.440 james murez: NICO go ahead. 2785 04:46:12.750 --> 04:46:20.880 Nico Ruderman: yeah i'm not going to speak very long, I just want to offer a public apology of projects, all the board members for my behavior last week but. 2786 04:46:21.420 --> 04:46:31.290 Nico Ruderman: You know a lot of things are going on that we're out of my control, but I was very emotional and yeah but my behavior regardless was unacceptable and I apologize. 2787 04:46:32.580 --> 04:46:34.800 james murez: Thank you, Nicole um. 2788 04:46:36.240 --> 04:46:38.340 james murez: let's see any more hands go ahead. 2789 04:46:38.790 --> 04:46:47.760 Alley Bean: i'm daffodil I probably missed the email but i'm because i'm sorry Jim whatever email, it was that I missed that you were talking about to I try to read it read all those Venice neighbors. 2790 04:46:48.630 --> 04:46:53.880 Alley Bean: But um have you announced to the neighborhood like who's in what neighborhood who the people are. 2791 04:46:54.480 --> 04:47:06.300 Alley Bean: The REPS and then also should we go through them is that how the committee will work that if we have a neighborhood concern should everybody find out like who our neighborhood person is on your committee and go to them. 2792 04:47:07.050 --> 04:47:10.320 Alley Bean: Is that kind of how that committee is going to work that's my only question. 2793 04:47:14.640 --> 04:47:15.480 james murez: Do you want to answer them. 2794 04:47:17.010 --> 04:47:17.700 james murez: Where to go. 2795 04:47:17.910 --> 04:47:18.900 Alley Bean: Maybe she didn't hear me. 2796 04:47:18.990 --> 04:47:19.320 she'll. 2797 04:47:21.660 --> 04:47:22.590 Alley Bean: Think she's frozen. 2798 04:47:24.000 --> 04:47:27.600 Alley Bean: Well i'll ask her separately nevermind I just thought, maybe everybody would want to hear that. 2799 04:47:29.100 --> 04:47:36.720 Alley Bean: And then I didn't know if the silver triangle it become a neighborhood or not, but I can ask her separate I just thought Maybe she could tell everybody at one time. 2800 04:47:40.410 --> 04:47:41.790 james murez: yeah hang on let's find out. 2801 04:47:43.980 --> 04:47:47.070 screen froze and she dropped out see if she can come back yet. 2802 04:48:02.430 --> 04:48:04.260 james murez: daffodil if you're out there, raise your hand. 2803 04:48:06.000 --> 04:48:08.550 james murez: I don't see you yeah I don't have an answer for you. 2804 04:48:08.820 --> 04:48:11.880 james murez: Okay, you have something you wanted to say your hand was up. 2805 04:48:12.750 --> 04:48:19.050 Alix: yeah just Andrea reach out to me about your question and an issue and i'll and i'll get into it and see what we can do. 2806 04:48:20.280 --> 04:48:20.670 Andrea Boccaletti: Thank you. 2807 04:48:22.680 --> 04:48:24.480 james murez: yeah I was also going to comment that. 2808 04:48:24.480 --> 04:48:27.690 james murez: streetlights is something you might be able to take the parking and transportation. 2809 04:48:29.070 --> 04:48:35.370 james murez: Because the the city's not supposed to have lights to chime into your eyes into your in your windows of your House. 2810 04:48:37.320 --> 04:48:38.640 james murez: The suppose only be on the street. 2811 04:48:41.550 --> 04:48:48.390 james murez: Okay well anybody else have any comments they want to make the leak your hand is still up, I assume that that was by accident now it's down. 2812 04:48:50.760 --> 04:48:52.020 james murez: Nothing else. 2813 04:48:53.880 --> 04:48:57.990 james murez: So I think the only thing left, we have to do is adjourn. 2814 04:49:00.570 --> 04:49:02.040 Wait i'm getting a text. 2815 04:49:06.420 --> 04:49:07.290 From daffodil. 2816 04:49:08.970 --> 04:49:10.050 james murez: Okay well. 2817 04:49:11.490 --> 04:49:12.300 james murez: we're a journey. 2818 04:49:13.140 --> 04:49:14.640 james murez: We finished 15 minutes early. 2819 04:49:15.300 --> 04:49:16.230 Alix: Thank you all. 2820 04:49:16.380 --> 04:49:18.600 Sima Kostovetsky: Thank you good night everybody, thank you. 2821 04:49:18.780 --> 04:49:20.040 Andrea Boccaletti: Thank you, great meeting. 2822 04:49:20.490 --> 04:49:21.330 Sima Kostovetsky: goodnight everybody. 2823 04:49:24.210 --> 04:49:24.960 Alley Bean: dreams.