WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:00.810 james murez: Go ahead, please. 2 00:00:01.800 --> 00:00:12.210 Margaret Molloy: um it's kind of ironic, you know and you're very carefully site, the specific plan only, which is a complete misuse of the specific plan. 3 00:00:12.990 --> 00:00:22.200 Margaret Molloy: Because you know we got the coastal act in the mellow at, but in this case, it seems that you're opposing it because of the potential of zoning. 4 00:00:22.710 --> 00:00:39.900 Margaret Molloy: open space, which I would consider to be by this group, probably opposing the mandate of the state to look at city properties that is open land that could be housing for low, and you know moderate income people, so your reasons are often wrong. 5 00:00:39.990 --> 00:00:40.980 Margaret Molloy: And this is one of them. 6 00:00:42.600 --> 00:00:43.440 james murez: Time Thank you. 7 00:00:45.720 --> 00:00:48.630 james murez: i'm Elizabeth right go ahead, please. 8 00:00:50.820 --> 00:00:54.690 Elizabeth Wright: I recommend voting against this, because it makes absolutely no sense. 9 00:00:57.000 --> 00:00:57.600 james murez: Thank you. 10 00:01:00.390 --> 00:01:02.730 james murez: um next speaker Erica more. 11 00:01:06.570 --> 00:01:18.090 Erica Moore: I this was talked about extensively and exhausted with with big and I support it, based on what we talked about there, I mean, obviously we want this meeting to end right now, so I would just say that base. 12 00:01:20.550 --> 00:01:21.180 Thank you. 13 00:01:23.640 --> 00:01:25.590 james murez: And our last speaker. 14 00:01:26.790 --> 00:01:28.590 james murez: Is Helen go ahead Helen. 15 00:01:29.670 --> 00:01:35.220 Helen Fallon: What this is essentially spotty voting and that's why this is coming out of rack because it's not about. 16 00:01:35.880 --> 00:01:43.530 Helen Fallon: Low income housing or anything if large projects are gone in and ignore the specific plan and rezoned a an area. 17 00:01:43.890 --> 00:01:51.360 Helen Fallon: So it's spot zoning if you don't agree with spot something they should be going through this and I don't think you can take unanimous vote because I don't even see. 18 00:01:51.960 --> 00:02:00.960 Helen Fallon: I don't know who's voting anymore, because I don't see everybody on the zoom so just pointing it out, you might want to confirm you've got you ever lost people. 19 00:02:01.770 --> 00:02:02.340 james murez: Thank you. 20 00:02:11.310 --> 00:02:12.030 james murez: Okay. 21 00:02:14.250 --> 00:02:16.170 james murez: daffodil you have your hand up go ahead. 22 00:02:18.030 --> 00:02:18.660 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah a couple. 23 00:02:19.680 --> 00:02:30.150 Daffodil Tyminski: couple things i'm i'm with Liz right this really doesn't make any sense I mean I I understand the genesis of this motion originally were three different. 24 00:02:30.720 --> 00:02:41.370 Daffodil Tyminski: unique projects one was the median project one was a project in Brentwood and I believe one was in the palisades and, yes, the idea was that the city was using. 25 00:02:42.270 --> 00:02:56.520 Daffodil Tyminski: What we're going to call quote spot zoning to get projects past to reverse one parcel, but I think what this Mrs is there so many times out there, where the city either spot zoned already. 26 00:02:58.020 --> 00:03:04.320 Daffodil Tyminski: properties and created problems that people have been working for years to try to get back and fix. 27 00:03:04.830 --> 00:03:15.690 Daffodil Tyminski: And right here in Venice, we have a lot of those we've we've heard before from merchants on ocean front wall who's properties respond zoned out from under them without notice and from other places in Venice. 28 00:03:16.230 --> 00:03:26.700 Daffodil Tyminski: And it also doesn't really mean we're in the middle of renewing our specific plan so to me, is it what does this mean like are we opposing it now, or we opposing it after. 29 00:03:28.290 --> 00:03:39.480 Daffodil Tyminski: I just think this is way too vague and I think I get it, I don't want to spot rezone open space from the medium project, and I understand there's problems with some of these projects, but. 30 00:03:40.500 --> 00:03:50.730 Daffodil Tyminski: If you think through the impact of this motion as worded to its logical extension there's a lot of wrongs that the city has committed throughout CD 11. 31 00:03:51.510 --> 00:04:06.840 Daffodil Tyminski: That now would not be righted because of this and there's a you know, for every one medium project there's 10 small businesses that are family owned that are going to get screwed out of this, so I appreciate what they're trying to do, I think. 32 00:04:08.070 --> 00:04:08.640 Daffodil Tyminski: I was. 33 00:04:08.700 --> 00:04:17.940 Daffodil Tyminski: I was President, for some of the Rack meetings where they were discussing it and I actually think they didn't handle it well at rack when they came up with this, but I would really encourage people not to do this, I think. 34 00:04:19.380 --> 00:04:28.680 Daffodil Tyminski: The opposition as far as we're concerned venison the medium project is well noted I don't think there's any dispute on this board that, by and large the Board is against that project. 35 00:04:29.700 --> 00:04:37.410 Daffodil Tyminski: I think, to vote for this would be announced spite all the other little people that have gotten screwed by the politicking of CD 11. 36 00:04:37.890 --> 00:04:52.620 Daffodil Tyminski: To get all their other pet projects are right, we all know that public storage was a pet project that got through by squaring rose and ocean for a walk and I could go on, but so I you know didn't want to do a unanimous thing on this because I just don't support it as written. 37 00:04:54.240 --> 00:04:55.890 james murez: Okay, thank you Clark go ahead. 38 00:04:56.910 --> 00:05:06.030 clark brown: I don't understand the need for voting on this particular measure at this time, as a general matter of sort of for increasing density, because I think it makes. 39 00:05:06.720 --> 00:05:18.510 clark brown: Housing more available for lower middle income people and I don't know what the impact of this would be on increasing density for those purposes, I don't see why we have to vote on this now. 40 00:05:19.710 --> 00:05:22.560 james murez: Okay, thank you Clark a gym rob go ahead, please. 41 00:05:23.940 --> 00:05:32.310 jim robb: yeah I agree with daffodil on this deal with Jason Tang and the whole ocean front walk and and he's been he's been. 42 00:05:33.360 --> 00:05:47.640 jim robb: he's been highly affected by this spot zoning and you know the lever lever got it and he didn't and he stuck in no man's land, so I agree, I agree this this, I feel the same way daffodil does on this one, thank you. 43 00:05:48.060 --> 00:05:50.250 james murez: Thank you i'm. 44 00:05:51.480 --> 00:05:52.500 james murez: elite go ahead, please. 45 00:05:53.520 --> 00:05:57.330 Alix Gucovsky: um I think this is a misinterpretation of this that this. 46 00:05:58.560 --> 00:06:17.640 Alix Gucovsky: Impact small businesses and local people, this is really to talk about not changing zoning for large swathes of open space that are that are already zoned open space and we need to preserve our open space. 47 00:06:21.810 --> 00:06:30.180 Alix Gucovsky: This is nothing to nothing impacting all on businesses it's really it was really a political. 48 00:06:31.350 --> 00:06:39.150 Alix Gucovsky: motion because so much of this is going on, through the city with these three plans one in one in Brentwood pilot what in Brentwood one palisades one in Venice. 49 00:06:39.750 --> 00:06:52.650 Alix Gucovsky: And if you're changing zoning do this through the Community plan and the LCP not the specific plan so I personally think it's very important you know we can we can argue and argue and argue about why something isn't perfectly written. 50 00:06:53.310 --> 00:07:08.520 Alix Gucovsky: I think that it's an important political message to send to the city from all the council's that we are not in favor of this spot zoning you're not in favor of taking away or open space, we are not in favor of taking away open space in the fire hazard zones and the flood hazard zones. 51 00:07:09.720 --> 00:07:13.260 Alix Gucovsky: That, that is, that is the nature of this motion so. 52 00:07:14.490 --> 00:07:15.450 Alix Gucovsky: I will be voting yes. 53 00:07:15.870 --> 00:07:16.350 Alix Gucovsky: Thank you. 54 00:07:17.970 --> 00:07:21.690 james murez: i'm definitely you had one more quick comment that will take about. 55 00:07:23.040 --> 00:07:24.030 james murez: You just lower your hand. 56 00:07:26.040 --> 00:07:26.670 james murez: can't hear you. 57 00:07:27.300 --> 00:07:30.690 Daffodil Tyminski: I would just read the plain language of this motion that says. 58 00:07:31.740 --> 00:07:39.450 Daffodil Tyminski: The Nevada neighborhood Council opposes the city's use a specific plans that would result in up zoning open space end or low density residential neighborhoods. 59 00:07:40.050 --> 00:07:51.300 Daffodil Tyminski: And that the ocean front walk parcels that Jim was talking about that I was referencing are essentially they were spot zoned into low density residential neighborhoods out from under the commercial owners. 60 00:07:52.170 --> 00:08:07.710 Daffodil Tyminski: My block was spot zoned from our for our five or whatever it is to our 1.5 so now every time someone wants to build on my block we lose three units on the block and it's because of this issue so. 61 00:08:08.370 --> 00:08:24.540 Daffodil Tyminski: I, and I totally support why we would want this for the medium project, but I really think that we need to think through this language and what the impact of this languages on our Community i'm not that concerned about you know the big project with all says. 62 00:08:25.830 --> 00:08:27.360 james murez: Okay, thank you um let's. 63 00:08:28.080 --> 00:08:38.640 Alix Gucovsky: get him quickly, I think there would be a friendly amendment that we talked about a little Pack that we never got through which is take out low density residential and leave it as just open space. 64 00:08:42.810 --> 00:08:44.850 james murez: Okay, are you making that emotion. 65 00:08:45.090 --> 00:08:48.630 Alix Gucovsky: i'm making that I will, I will make the friendly amendment to that motion. 66 00:08:49.200 --> 00:08:50.850 Ivan: there's no such thing as a friendly. 67 00:08:50.850 --> 00:08:54.780 james murez: Amendment it's either you're bending it or you're not so, if you are let's get a second. 68 00:08:56.850 --> 00:08:57.570 orson bean: i'll second it. 69 00:08:58.830 --> 00:09:00.720 james murez: valley seconded so. 70 00:09:02.010 --> 00:09:09.180 james murez: leaks is taking out hand or low density low density residential neighborhoods. 71 00:09:10.200 --> 00:09:14.400 james murez: So, putting a period after space Is that correct hmm. 72 00:09:29.760 --> 00:09:30.600 james murez: So. 73 00:09:31.680 --> 00:09:33.120 james murez: We now have to. 74 00:09:34.800 --> 00:09:36.930 james murez: open public comment on that. 75 00:09:39.090 --> 00:09:41.130 james murez: We have any public comment on taking out those. 76 00:09:41.580 --> 00:09:43.920 james murez: Second, we got it we got a second. 77 00:09:43.920 --> 00:09:45.030 Daffodil Tyminski: Did they get a second okay. 78 00:09:45.150 --> 00:09:46.710 james murez: Oh i'm sorry did we not i'm sorry. 79 00:09:48.090 --> 00:09:48.390 Alix Gucovsky: Alice. 80 00:09:48.930 --> 00:09:49.710 james murez: yeah we did. 81 00:09:58.530 --> 00:10:02.280 james murez: Okay, I got I gotta keep taking notes on this stuff sorry i'm. 82 00:10:02.340 --> 00:10:03.420 Daffodil Tyminski: Not me I do the comment. 83 00:10:04.530 --> 00:10:09.180 james murez: No, no i'm back okay so we've got three public speakers go ahead puppet. 84 00:10:12.270 --> 00:10:19.650 - Puppet: yeah so I didn't like that that punctuation yes that's very, very good and what color fastest meetings. 85 00:10:19.650 --> 00:10:40.740 - Puppet: Going we're going to set a record here and quickness and again, congratulations, Mr Mohammed he's won the chairmanship of the committee, no ship yes that's right go puppets always ahead of the game 24 seven fighting developers and protecting you from the enemies at City Hall. 86 00:10:41.790 --> 00:10:43.020 james murez: You can't say thank you. 87 00:10:48.600 --> 00:10:50.940 james murez: Okay mccallum go ahead. 88 00:10:56.520 --> 00:10:57.030 Michael Jensen: Can you hear me. 89 00:10:57.240 --> 00:11:04.170 Michael Jensen: Yes, so we were told previously that we couldn't amend rack motions. 90 00:11:06.210 --> 00:11:09.870 Michael Jensen: And for that reason we talked at length about. 91 00:11:10.980 --> 00:11:15.480 Michael Jensen: pretty much the same issues that daffodil raised and. 92 00:11:17.100 --> 00:11:40.560 Michael Jensen: we've been told that rack motions only get an up or down vote or you know very slight amendments, I would suggest that this proposed amendment is a substantive change from it, and so I again don't see I think the the original emotion is way broader than I think the intent. 93 00:11:42.810 --> 00:11:49.410 Michael Jensen: should be and an amendment and procedurally told we can't do so that's my father. 94 00:11:52.680 --> 00:11:53.160 james murez: Thank you. 95 00:11:59.640 --> 00:12:01.410 james murez: Margaret malloy last speaker go ahead. 96 00:12:02.250 --> 00:12:10.320 Margaret Molloy: So thank you for openly admitting that this is anti homeless, because I think it was wrapped in the low density residential bullshit but. 97 00:12:10.830 --> 00:12:11.550 Ivan: You know some of. 98 00:12:11.640 --> 00:12:26.280 Margaret Molloy: You are on the kind of community and pro the average person side on a lot of items, but there's a kind of a bottom line where we ain't seeing eye to eye, and this is a really transparent version of that so. 99 00:12:26.760 --> 00:12:36.420 Margaret Molloy: I can express disappointment with people who are clearly supporting this kind of emotion and you know it's disingenuous if you're anti homeless you're anti. 100 00:12:37.230 --> 00:12:46.680 Margaret Molloy: Allowing development of affordable housing on open land just say it just call it what it is, and I strongly suggest by some my cpr is that you look at. 101 00:12:47.160 --> 00:12:49.860 Margaret Molloy: All the courses that are underperforming that are public. 102 00:12:49.860 --> 00:12:51.120 james murez: Land Thank you Margaret. 103 00:12:52.980 --> 00:12:55.680 james murez: Okay um i'm closing public comment. 104 00:12:56.700 --> 00:12:58.470 james murez: Any board discussion on this. 105 00:12:59.520 --> 00:13:02.820 james murez: hi I would make the point and I will start the discussion off. 106 00:13:04.260 --> 00:13:12.900 james murez: It is correct that rack motions really do not want to have major changes if there's a punctuation or wrong word us. 107 00:13:13.770 --> 00:13:18.690 james murez: it's okay to change it, but 14 neighborhood councils are all looking at the same piece of text. 108 00:13:19.080 --> 00:13:33.780 james murez: And if we make a major change it's going to come back and it's going to be, it was approved, but with changes and they have no real way of sending forward emotion that 14 different neighborhood Councils each make changes to as one. 109 00:13:35.130 --> 00:13:46.770 james murez: Unanimous or one, however, you want to call it, one one collective voice through to the city, the concept of the 14 Councils is that they're all speaking united voice. 110 00:13:47.130 --> 00:13:57.840 james murez: And that this is a regional thing and and it actually goes beyond one Council person I believe rack affects two maybe three Council people at this point. 111 00:13:58.320 --> 00:14:19.170 james murez: And, and so the idea is that these guys really have to listen, because everybody's in favor of a particular position and and if we make major changes major subsequent changes to these things were just defeating the purpose they won't include it in their overall trying to create. 112 00:14:20.190 --> 00:14:20.850 james murez: some kind of. 113 00:14:22.140 --> 00:14:32.280 james murez: Joint Decision anyway, I see that there are two hands up let's take those two comments and then let's go for the vote leaks go ahead. 114 00:14:33.000 --> 00:14:43.830 Alix Gucovsky: So a couple things one, I agree with you, Jim on the substantive substantiated changes I don't believe this is a substantial change it still keeps the spirit of the motion. 115 00:14:44.640 --> 00:14:57.690 Alix Gucovsky: And then, to address the comments that this is just a motion wrapped in anti homelessness that is not the case, this motion as as I believe Daf pointed out earlier came. 116 00:14:58.200 --> 00:15:04.710 Alix Gucovsky: As a result of three different projects, one is the progression Institute, I believe, which is in palisades. 117 00:15:05.640 --> 00:15:23.880 Alix Gucovsky: That is in a preserve a natural opiates zoned open space in a fire zone there's been a lot of Community opposition to this for many, many years and it's a it's a similar spot zoning situation, the other is to a hotel and Benedict Canyon I believe that is. 118 00:15:24.900 --> 00:15:36.450 Alix Gucovsky: That is again open space in a in a fire zone and then, of course, you know the median project, which is an issue as well too and i'm sure there are other projects throughout the district, which is why this is being. 119 00:15:37.020 --> 00:15:47.910 Alix Gucovsky: taken up as regional issue within rack and this motion went through probably three or four iterations and I, as I said previously believe it's an important. 120 00:15:48.870 --> 00:16:05.220 Alix Gucovsky: Excuse me, important motion to pass to put our Council members on notice that this is not something we want to see happen, whether it be for a profitable project or a non profit project so again i'll be voting yes on this. 121 00:16:07.020 --> 00:16:07.980 james murez: Thank you i'm. 122 00:16:11.160 --> 00:16:12.060 james murez: definitely go ahead. 123 00:16:13.080 --> 00:16:26.820 Daffodil Tyminski: um I just have two comments, one on the idea of open space in general and equating not supporting open space to views for homeless projects with being anti homeless, I think it's just a total fallacy. 124 00:16:28.260 --> 00:16:38.430 Daffodil Tyminski: to convert open space that benefits the entire Community, for the benefit of maybe three to 400 people I think it's just you're responsible as stewards of the public trust. 125 00:16:39.090 --> 00:16:43.380 Daffodil Tyminski: It doesn't mean you're anti homeless, that you don't want to build homeless housing you don't want to support it, you don't want to fund it. 126 00:16:43.830 --> 00:16:53.640 Daffodil Tyminski: it's just that you're and I frankly don't think we should be prioritizing anyone groups rights that much over the other, but specifically with the the language of this motion. 127 00:16:54.720 --> 00:16:56.460 Daffodil Tyminski: I just don't see how this plays out. 128 00:16:56.850 --> 00:17:07.140 Daffodil Tyminski: We urge our city council members to reject land use applications for individual development projects that represent a misuse of the specific line process well who decides that it's a misuse of the specific claim process. 129 00:17:07.560 --> 00:17:13.890 Daffodil Tyminski: Then you read the next sentence, we asked at the City Council inform planning out the process these types of requests so. 130 00:17:14.280 --> 00:17:29.430 Daffodil Tyminski: If they don't process these types of requests, how do they reject them, how do we define what's in this us, I mean again I kind of get where they were going here and I don't think we can just cut out the residential piece and make this fine, I think this is just poorly written and. 131 00:17:30.570 --> 00:17:37.680 Daffodil Tyminski: I just don't even know what anyone would do with this, I mean let's say we've has this what is planning do what is the City Council do. 132 00:17:38.580 --> 00:17:56.340 Daffodil Tyminski: um someone planning gets a request for spot zoning and no one even looks at it, to see if there's a merit, I mean maybe there is a merit to it right so um I know this was it Rack for a while and I know they had a lot of issues, I think, largely they were not Venice issues. 133 00:17:57.480 --> 00:18:01.650 Daffodil Tyminski: And I just think this would hurt us more as a Community, to help us personally. 134 00:18:02.400 --> 00:18:08.370 james murez: Okay, thank you beth and I will just say that I think that taking out 50% of the. 135 00:18:10.740 --> 00:18:20.400 james murez: issue, in other words we're open spaces 50% and low density residential rental potential housing or residential neighborhoods is the other 50%. 136 00:18:20.820 --> 00:18:30.030 james murez: Of what it is they're pointing to that is a major difference, a major substantial change to the motions being made it's not as though we're just changing one word. 137 00:18:31.290 --> 00:18:38.130 james murez: or two words that might tune it in a little bit better I know we did that, last month, I believe, or we changed. 138 00:18:39.630 --> 00:18:48.180 james murez: What was considered to be a serious crime to being a federal crime, because if federal crimes something that's defined. 139 00:18:48.600 --> 00:19:00.180 james murez: And that made it a lot clear what it was, we were supporting in the Rack motion this time we're if we take out those words and my belief is, if we take those words out, we are making a sizable change. 140 00:19:00.870 --> 00:19:08.460 james murez: To the motion, but having said that event, no one else has any comments, Melissa are you back you're not back. 141 00:19:10.290 --> 00:19:11.460 james murez: How do we want to do this. 142 00:19:15.090 --> 00:19:19.440 james murez: Do we think we're do we think we're split on this decision I think probably. 143 00:19:20.580 --> 00:19:21.780 Ivan: need to take a roll call. 144 00:19:21.810 --> 00:19:23.940 james murez: yeah we, we need to take a roll call on this. 145 00:19:24.090 --> 00:19:24.870 Daffodil Tyminski: me to do it. 146 00:19:24.990 --> 00:19:26.550 james murez: yeah can you, is it easy for you. 147 00:19:28.320 --> 00:19:30.960 james murez: I mean, I would have set up a spreadsheet to do it, but I haven't so. 148 00:19:31.170 --> 00:19:33.240 Vicki Halliday: said, this is on the amendment. 149 00:19:38.280 --> 00:19:39.720 james murez: we're voting on the amendment. 150 00:19:39.720 --> 00:19:40.770 Vicki Halliday: Okay, all right fine. 151 00:19:43.650 --> 00:19:45.450 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, James. 152 00:19:46.500 --> 00:19:47.310 james murez: No. 153 00:19:48.750 --> 00:19:49.050 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay. 154 00:19:49.140 --> 00:19:56.700 melissa diner : Like I can take a vote i'm back now I just sent you guys if you guys want to take a minute to check what I sent you before we announce it that'd be great. 155 00:19:56.730 --> 00:19:58.440 melissa diner : But, which I know early on, and I think. 156 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:00.360 james murez: we're on. 157 00:20:01.770 --> 00:20:02.610 james murez: we're on 11. 158 00:20:04.650 --> 00:20:05.370 melissa diner : On 11 but. 159 00:20:05.730 --> 00:20:07.080 james murez: Jesus and George. 160 00:20:07.380 --> 00:20:07.770 melissa diner : Thank you. 161 00:20:08.310 --> 00:20:09.450 Ivan: And we are taking a. 162 00:20:10.020 --> 00:20:11.040 Daffodil Tyminski: roll call vote. 163 00:20:11.130 --> 00:20:12.240 Daffodil Tyminski: On an amendment. 164 00:20:13.410 --> 00:20:14.430 Daffodil Tyminski: To a level of a. 165 00:20:14.910 --> 00:20:18.120 james murez: yeah can kick if you can take that you're all set up for it that'd be great. 166 00:20:18.690 --> 00:20:19.890 melissa diner : Sure happy to do. 167 00:20:22.950 --> 00:20:24.270 melissa diner : me just a second. 168 00:20:25.890 --> 00:20:29.430 orson bean: Here you send us an email to to the dnc account. 169 00:20:30.330 --> 00:20:31.800 orson bean: know to what. 170 00:20:32.280 --> 00:20:32.670 melissa diner : i'm not. 171 00:20:32.880 --> 00:20:36.990 melissa diner : it's not has nothing to do with you for right now we'll invite shortly. 172 00:20:37.230 --> 00:20:38.460 orson bean: i'm sorry I thought you said no. 173 00:20:38.460 --> 00:20:42.180 melissa diner : problem okay levin g. 174 00:20:43.170 --> 00:20:44.610 james murez: Yes, oh. 175 00:20:48.270 --> 00:20:49.590 melissa diner : Alright, James. 176 00:20:51.420 --> 00:20:51.780 james murez: No. 177 00:20:54.660 --> 00:20:55.050 Daffodil Tyminski: No. 178 00:20:56.970 --> 00:20:59.880 melissa diner : I will abstain, Andrea. 179 00:21:05.520 --> 00:21:06.090 Alix Gucovsky: Yes. 180 00:21:23.400 --> 00:21:24.210 Sima Kostovetsky: Perhaps standing. 181 00:21:28.980 --> 00:21:29.460 melissa diner : Ali. 182 00:21:32.520 --> 00:21:33.030 orson bean: Yes. 183 00:21:36.360 --> 00:21:36.750 melissa diner : hi. 184 00:21:47.040 --> 00:21:47.520 melissa diner : DJ. 185 00:21:48.060 --> 00:21:48.750 No. 186 00:21:51.840 --> 00:21:52.230 Ivan: No. 187 00:21:59.730 --> 00:22:00.240 Soledad Ursua: Now. 188 00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:01.410 melissa diner : All of their Fries. 189 00:22:08.760 --> 00:22:09.240 melissa diner : Clark. 190 00:22:10.590 --> 00:22:11.970 melissa diner : or sorry James rob. 191 00:22:18.630 --> 00:22:19.080 Nico Ruderman: Yes. 192 00:22:28.860 --> 00:22:29.910 jim robb: Yes, Melissa. 193 00:22:30.390 --> 00:22:33.330 melissa diner : Give me one moment sorry it's just. 194 00:22:35.760 --> 00:22:39.510 melissa diner : So wait you just voted no, but you want to vote, you want to change your vote. 195 00:22:40.410 --> 00:22:44.310 jim robb: I was shaking my head, because I don't know what to do, but i'm going to say yes. 196 00:22:44.430 --> 00:22:48.750 melissa diner : Oh, I heard someone vote for you so sorry So yes, car. 197 00:22:49.440 --> 00:22:51.300 melissa diner : No Stan. 198 00:22:52.410 --> 00:22:52.860 Ansar Muhammad: know. 199 00:22:53.460 --> 00:22:53.970 Robert. 200 00:22:56.310 --> 00:22:57.240 james murez: Roberts gone. 201 00:22:59.070 --> 00:22:59.850 melissa diner : Okay. 202 00:23:03.900 --> 00:23:05.400 melissa diner : And then Bruno. 203 00:23:07.170 --> 00:23:07.980 And Jason. 204 00:23:10.920 --> 00:23:11.940 Jason Sugars: Yes. 205 00:23:14.310 --> 00:23:14.640 i'm. 206 00:23:17.040 --> 00:23:17.760 Ansar Muhammad: late. 207 00:23:18.930 --> 00:23:20.100 james murez: yeah really what. 208 00:23:22.230 --> 00:23:23.130 Jason Sugars: you're voting no. 209 00:23:24.120 --> 00:23:25.260 melissa diner : I bought it Thank you. 210 00:23:27.930 --> 00:23:28.950 james murez: Okay, you gotta tell me. 211 00:23:29.730 --> 00:23:31.050 melissa diner : Just a moment. 212 00:23:37.020 --> 00:23:38.190 melissa diner : Three 512. 213 00:23:40.080 --> 00:23:40.980 james murez: So, again. 214 00:23:41.220 --> 00:23:41.610 Okay. 215 00:23:42.750 --> 00:23:44.340 Ivan: Go back to the original motion. 216 00:23:46.890 --> 00:23:52.020 james murez: Right now we're back to the original motion, so now we need to take a vote on the original motion. 217 00:23:52.050 --> 00:24:08.730 melissa diner : And, just to clarify its I had it listed, not in the normal form, so it was three in favor 12 opposed and then I should be five in favor 12 opposed and three abstained. 218 00:24:09.180 --> 00:24:10.770 james murez: yeah I was gonna say that sounded really. 219 00:24:11.040 --> 00:24:11.580 melissa diner : Thank you. 220 00:24:15.690 --> 00:24:24.210 james murez: Okay, thank you now we're taking another roll call, but this time on the original motion so we're not modifying it we're just saying yes or no. 221 00:24:25.440 --> 00:24:26.070 james murez: or abstaining. 222 00:24:28.230 --> 00:24:29.400 james murez: Whenever you're ready, Melissa. 223 00:24:39.990 --> 00:24:40.740 james murez: Are you with us. 224 00:24:41.310 --> 00:24:44.160 melissa diner : yeah i'm with you give me just a moment okay James. 225 00:24:45.690 --> 00:24:46.170 james murez: No. 226 00:24:47.130 --> 00:24:48.810 melissa diner : daffodil no. 227 00:24:51.390 --> 00:24:52.500 melissa diner : I don't know um. 228 00:24:53.460 --> 00:24:54.000 Yes. 229 00:24:58.020 --> 00:24:58.650 melissa diner : leaks. 230 00:24:58.950 --> 00:24:59.610 Yes. 231 00:25:16.200 --> 00:25:16.530 Sima Kostovetsky: Yes. 232 00:25:35.910 --> 00:25:36.450 melissa diner : hi. 233 00:25:36.720 --> 00:25:37.380 abstain. 234 00:25:41.910 --> 00:25:42.660 melissa diner : cj. 235 00:25:43.050 --> 00:25:43.740 Yes. 236 00:25:49.290 --> 00:25:49.680 No. 237 00:25:57.690 --> 00:25:58.080 ElizabethClay: No. 238 00:26:00.060 --> 00:26:00.840 Soledad Ursua: i'm saying. 239 00:26:01.950 --> 00:26:02.340 melissa diner : All of you. 240 00:26:03.150 --> 00:26:03.510 know. 241 00:26:15.090 --> 00:26:15.630 melissa diner : Yes. 242 00:26:15.990 --> 00:26:16.800 Yes. 243 00:26:20.220 --> 00:26:20.730 Nico Ruderman: Yes. 244 00:26:22.440 --> 00:26:23.850 clark brown: Clark, no. 245 00:26:29.220 --> 00:26:29.790 melissa diner : Stan. 246 00:26:30.570 --> 00:26:33.990 melissa diner : Know Robert is gone burnout. 247 00:26:37.710 --> 00:26:39.270 melissa diner : And Jason servers. 248 00:26:40.290 --> 00:26:40.740 Jason Sugars: Though. 249 00:27:01.980 --> 00:27:03.360 melissa diner : and three abstentions. 250 00:27:04.680 --> 00:27:06.900 james murez: Okay, we have one more rack motion. 251 00:27:08.400 --> 00:27:15.060 james murez: Then we have to go back to the beginning, where we had this one project that was put on to taken off of consent. 252 00:27:17.550 --> 00:27:18.300 Next month. 253 00:27:19.980 --> 00:27:20.220 james murez: me. 254 00:27:20.790 --> 00:27:21.420 james murez: Know that'd be. 255 00:27:22.380 --> 00:27:24.270 james murez: The rack motion I think they needed. 256 00:27:26.100 --> 00:27:27.090 james murez: They needed it back. 257 00:27:27.570 --> 00:27:31.530 Alix Gucovsky: i'm gonna read back motion Jim so we get moving on this. 258 00:27:31.680 --> 00:27:32.190 james murez: You way. 259 00:27:32.610 --> 00:27:33.240 Alix Gucovsky: i'm just going to. 260 00:27:33.390 --> 00:27:36.660 Alix Gucovsky: go through it, so we get moving on this right. 261 00:27:37.320 --> 00:27:38.610 james murez: Right so. 262 00:27:39.300 --> 00:27:39.810 Finally. 263 00:27:40.830 --> 00:27:47.070 Alix Gucovsky: um I think it's it's I think it's all September hold on. 264 00:27:49.830 --> 00:27:56.280 james murez: Why you look that up we couldn't go back to the other one maybe we don't have to hear the rap one this one. 265 00:27:57.780 --> 00:27:59.850 james murez: About ghost kitchens. 266 00:28:00.900 --> 00:28:03.450 james murez: We have time for Halloween ghosts are coming up. 267 00:28:05.100 --> 00:28:08.100 CJmacbook: A little peck response now for results. 268 00:28:08.820 --> 00:28:10.470 james murez: yeah we're not quite there yet. 269 00:28:10.830 --> 00:28:13.650 james murez: Why well I don't know. 270 00:28:14.910 --> 00:28:23.550 melissa diner : What do you mean I submitted them someone just double check and verify them full transparency, I submitted to you Ivan and. 271 00:28:23.610 --> 00:28:26.430 melissa diner : daffodil i've been can you just verify those results. 272 00:28:26.460 --> 00:28:27.210 melissa diner : Please, I email. 273 00:28:27.240 --> 00:28:34.440 Alix Gucovsky: August ghost kitchen August is the ghost kitchen Jim, let me just read it, so we can get going on this. 274 00:28:35.040 --> 00:28:36.360 james murez: August is their deadline. 275 00:28:36.600 --> 00:28:38.730 james murez: Correct yeah so let's go to the. 276 00:28:38.790 --> 00:28:44.160 Ivan: gym for motion to wave reading of the motion, and you just get to it. 277 00:28:44.640 --> 00:28:48.660 james murez: Okay, fine with me let's wave the reading of the motion every. 278 00:28:48.810 --> 00:28:50.460 Alix Gucovsky: Second, that it's a leaks. 279 00:28:51.570 --> 00:28:52.200 james murez: way. 280 00:28:55.110 --> 00:28:55.560 Ivan: To upload. 281 00:28:56.250 --> 00:28:56.940 james murez: You don't need to vote. 282 00:28:57.480 --> 00:29:03.060 Alix Gucovsky: Why don't you put the motion up on the screen so that everybody in and we're not told we're not being. 283 00:29:03.180 --> 00:29:04.020 james murez: I can do that. 284 00:29:04.260 --> 00:29:06.030 james murez: Please let me find it. 285 00:29:09.810 --> 00:29:10.410 james murez: Second. 286 00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:13.470 So. 287 00:29:15.630 --> 00:29:18.030 Let me enlarge the size of it slightly. 288 00:29:21.270 --> 00:29:23.160 james murez: share that screen. 289 00:29:27.510 --> 00:29:28.110 james murez: Okay. 290 00:29:28.620 --> 00:29:31.050 james murez: There we go there's the motion. 291 00:29:32.310 --> 00:29:33.720 james murez: Now somehow. 292 00:29:37.470 --> 00:29:41.580 james murez: We have do we have a moat did somebody make the motion ELISE did you make the motion. 293 00:29:44.370 --> 00:29:45.810 james murez: leaks are you making the motion. 294 00:29:47.310 --> 00:29:49.080 Alix Gucovsky: Motion elites makes the motion. 295 00:29:49.590 --> 00:29:50.550 james murez: Do we have a second. 296 00:29:50.820 --> 00:29:52.170 Vicki Halliday: i'll second that vicki. 297 00:29:52.320 --> 00:29:54.630 james murez: See though vicki vicki second did it. 298 00:29:56.280 --> 00:29:58.560 james murez: Okay let's take public comment. 299 00:29:59.850 --> 00:30:02.610 james murez: You have three hands up or hands up. 300 00:30:05.040 --> 00:30:09.810 james murez: 12345 anybody else three No four. 301 00:30:12.720 --> 00:30:15.510 james murez: hands on closing it actor Erica more. 302 00:30:16.740 --> 00:30:18.720 james murez: Margaret you got the floor go ahead, please. 303 00:30:19.380 --> 00:30:21.510 Margaret Molloy: Oh i'm sorry I ended up for this. 304 00:30:21.780 --> 00:30:23.100 james murez: Okay, thank you. 305 00:30:24.360 --> 00:30:24.930 james murez: um. 306 00:30:27.870 --> 00:30:29.430 james murez: puppet go ahead. 307 00:30:29.850 --> 00:30:30.330 He. 308 00:30:32.160 --> 00:30:42.450 - Puppet: goes kitchens very, very scary but they shouldn't be open in the month of October for Halloween only yes and, as you know. 309 00:30:42.990 --> 00:31:00.000 - Puppet: goes kitchens are dangerous and evil, and you can see, the little pack one three to two as God puppet passionately room for this bullshit and, of course, somebody on their camera lion down you gotta get back up rob. 310 00:31:01.260 --> 00:31:02.550 - Puppet: You have to get up and vote. 311 00:31:03.420 --> 00:31:05.010 james murez: yeah Thank you. 312 00:31:10.920 --> 00:31:12.690 james murez: Lisa go ahead place. 313 00:31:13.920 --> 00:31:24.390 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: yeah, this is a unimportant motion that I don't feel has been addressed well it's a whole new bit goes kitchen cloud kitchens, are a whole new business model. 314 00:31:25.530 --> 00:31:30.450 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: That can't be treated as a regular restaurant, I really don't think you guys are aware. 315 00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:43.860 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Of the traffic nightmare that's going to happen at linkedin and flower when that one opens very shortly with the volume of cars constantly coming in going it's not a sit down restaurant, there will be all kinds of. 316 00:31:45.660 --> 00:31:54.210 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: You know post mates uber eats drivers and they just come in and they go they come into the go and there's so many people coming in and out of driveways it backs up down Lincoln. 317 00:31:55.380 --> 00:32:06.720 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: And that's what happens to their facility on Santa Monica so set them on a couple of art, so it really does need to be looked at as an entirely different model with different kinds of. 318 00:32:07.290 --> 00:32:08.700 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: thinking and planning and all that. 319 00:32:09.030 --> 00:32:09.360 james murez: Thank you. 320 00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:10.290 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Thank you. 321 00:32:10.710 --> 00:32:11.190 james murez: Thank you. 322 00:32:15.510 --> 00:32:20.340 james murez: Margaret your hand went back up I don't know if that means you want to talk, did you want to talk Margaret. 323 00:32:20.670 --> 00:32:27.330 Margaret Molloy: Sure, only to say that I didn't read the motion, but it sounds awfully like the proposal for 800 main Thank you. 324 00:32:29.310 --> 00:32:29.850 Thank you. 325 00:32:35.580 --> 00:32:36.570 james murez: Erica more. 326 00:32:37.950 --> 00:32:38.610 james murez: Go ahead, please. 327 00:32:43.140 --> 00:32:52.140 Erica Moore: hi there Please support this, this is the industry i'm in I can talk to you at nauseum about ghosts kitchens um. 328 00:32:53.370 --> 00:33:00.540 Erica Moore: there's so much more than even what Lisa address it's not just the delivery companies but it's going to be accelerated. 329 00:33:01.110 --> 00:33:10.680 Erica Moore: utilities, with the trash trucks there's there's so many deliveries from different vendors there's just so many different things that are impacted it just needs to be. 330 00:33:10.950 --> 00:33:20.640 Erica Moore: looked at, and they need to figure out how to make it work, so there needs to be regulations that are that that are set in place for safety reasons for on multiple levels. 331 00:33:21.270 --> 00:33:21.660 Andrea Boccaletti: Thank you. 332 00:33:22.290 --> 00:33:23.070 Erica Moore: yeah thanks. 333 00:33:23.730 --> 00:33:24.300 james murez: Thank you. 334 00:33:28.170 --> 00:33:31.620 james murez: I think so i'm going to close public comment. 335 00:33:38.880 --> 00:33:41.160 james murez: and stop screen sharing. 336 00:33:43.170 --> 00:33:45.360 james murez: Okay, we have one hand up go ahead. 337 00:33:48.990 --> 00:34:04.830 Chie Lunn: Okay hi just i'm speaking from someone who travels all over Los Angeles, I love the idea goes kitchens, it gives minorities opportunity to start businesses for amazing food, and I would hope for more to be closer because it increases diversity in our Community, thank you. 338 00:34:06.840 --> 00:34:07.800 james murez: anybody else. 339 00:34:10.260 --> 00:34:11.040 james murez: Work go ahead. 340 00:34:11.850 --> 00:34:17.880 clark brown: Other clarification of a regulation on a new form of business is probably a good idea, as a general matter. 341 00:34:19.860 --> 00:34:22.380 james murez: Thank you, anyone else might problem go ahead. 342 00:34:23.100 --> 00:34:27.360 Mike Bravo: yeah I just think that's a positive emotion, I definitely that's something we're definitely. 343 00:34:28.230 --> 00:34:34.320 Mike Bravo: Look more into, and I saw you know Lisa mentioned that people traffic issues and what have you and also, there are some. 344 00:34:35.040 --> 00:34:43.860 Mike Bravo: To add to it is this love of cultural appropriation issues involved, these um these goals pickings as well, but definitely needs to be looked into, and I hope people vote yes. 345 00:34:45.330 --> 00:34:45.990 james murez: Thank you. 346 00:34:47.400 --> 00:34:52.170 james murez: Okay, seeing no other hands let's take a vote on this Melissa. 347 00:34:53.250 --> 00:34:57.150 james murez: Actually, is there anybody that is opposed to this motion. 348 00:35:01.590 --> 00:35:04.230 james murez: Seeing no opposition let's just call it unanimous. 349 00:35:06.180 --> 00:35:09.810 james murez: Melissa you'll have to go back to see who's still here in the meeting but. 350 00:35:12.150 --> 00:35:13.680 james murez: You can see that, from the video. 351 00:35:17.220 --> 00:35:17.880 james murez: Okay. 352 00:35:19.680 --> 00:35:22.170 james murez: So we have one last item. 353 00:35:23.280 --> 00:35:23.790 That I am. 354 00:35:26.670 --> 00:35:36.630 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm going to suggest to them, given a late hour, that we announced loop pack we announced oceanfront walk and we push neighborhood committee till next month. 355 00:35:39.480 --> 00:35:52.710 james murez: Okay, I don't have a problem with that, but we have five CREST more which was unanimous by Luke Pack that was taken off of consent, so we slept here that that was 10 a. 356 00:35:53.190 --> 00:35:57.090 Alix Gucovsky: Jim why don't I look and see what the hearing date on that is I don't know if it's. 357 00:35:58.710 --> 00:36:03.330 james murez: That up Melissa do you want to go ahead and who has the vote count on loop back at this point. 358 00:36:05.730 --> 00:36:10.440 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm just jump in and say Jim rob will be our next ocean front walk chair. 359 00:36:11.490 --> 00:36:11.910 james murez: Okay. 360 00:36:13.500 --> 00:36:14.910 james murez: You got those ones tallied up. 361 00:36:15.180 --> 00:36:18.840 Daffodil Tyminski: I have, I mean I did it like way the old fashioned way but. 362 00:36:18.930 --> 00:36:21.240 james murez: that's fine what was the vote count there. 363 00:36:22.380 --> 00:36:26.490 Daffodil Tyminski: Oh well, I gotta actually count here um. 364 00:36:28.770 --> 00:36:32.580 jim robb: Okay Stan you're on my you're my OSHA pro walk committee stand. 365 00:36:33.210 --> 00:36:34.800 Daffodil Tyminski: rock nine. 366 00:36:36.360 --> 00:36:41.220 melissa diner : So i'm what I wanted to be clear, moving forward just real quick if you. 367 00:36:43.770 --> 00:36:47.940 james murez: hold on hold on one second Melissa daffodil you had mine for stand and what did you. 368 00:36:47.970 --> 00:36:49.440 Have for rob well for jenna. 369 00:36:50.940 --> 00:36:51.750 james murez: Okay, great. 370 00:36:52.410 --> 00:36:53.940 james murez: yeah so so. 371 00:36:54.540 --> 00:36:55.770 james murez: rob you're going to be our. 372 00:36:56.400 --> 00:36:59.940 james murez: yeah our new chair for ocean for a walk congratulate. 373 00:36:59.940 --> 00:37:05.280 Daffodil Tyminski: I can screenshot my notes, but actually think all the emails came to me, I took the notes from the email so. 374 00:37:05.340 --> 00:37:09.930 james murez: Okay well just make sure you save those emails because if somebody does a public records request. 375 00:37:09.930 --> 00:37:11.910 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah no absolutely absolutely i'm just saying. 376 00:37:11.940 --> 00:37:12.960 james murez: Okay, all right very good. 377 00:37:14.640 --> 00:37:15.630 Alix Gucovsky: um Jim. 378 00:37:15.900 --> 00:37:18.930 james murez: Do we have hold on a minute hold on a minute do we have a. 379 00:37:20.070 --> 00:37:22.170 james murez: selection of loop back yet. 380 00:37:23.970 --> 00:37:24.480 james murez: Melissa. 381 00:37:27.960 --> 00:37:29.130 james murez: Melissa we can't hear you. 382 00:37:34.200 --> 00:37:38.520 Alix Gucovsky: i'm not sure if we lost Melissa enough let's see she's still here. 383 00:37:44.640 --> 00:37:47.550 james murez: She had said something about forwarding the information. 384 00:37:50.310 --> 00:37:57.240 Daffodil Tyminski: So she did forward to you and me ettalhi i'm just not sure I have the appropriate interpretation of it. 385 00:37:58.320 --> 00:37:59.760 james murez: Let me look at my email. 386 00:38:02.460 --> 00:38:03.330 orson bean: just got her hand up. 387 00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:05.880 james murez: or she has her hand up. 388 00:38:06.060 --> 00:38:06.360 orson bean: uh huh. 389 00:38:06.390 --> 00:38:09.210 melissa diner : yeah I send it to all of you to buy I have the Rack. 390 00:38:09.600 --> 00:38:10.110 Ansar Muhammad: Not on me. 391 00:38:13.890 --> 00:38:15.300 james murez: So you're really breaking up. 392 00:38:22.950 --> 00:38:24.210 james murez: I don't even see her anymore. 393 00:38:24.300 --> 00:38:26.280 melissa diner : So her hands up i'm here. 394 00:38:27.420 --> 00:38:27.930 james murez: Okay. 395 00:38:30.720 --> 00:38:31.290 james murez: They didn't eat. 396 00:38:31.710 --> 00:38:32.700 james murez: me yeah. 397 00:38:32.730 --> 00:38:34.320 melissa diner : Now we can hear now i'm talking. 398 00:38:38.010 --> 00:38:38.340 melissa diner : nope. 399 00:38:40.890 --> 00:38:42.120 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah we can hear you Melissa. 400 00:38:45.690 --> 00:38:46.920 james murez: Can anybody hear Melissa. 401 00:38:48.450 --> 00:38:49.500 orson bean: No, no. 402 00:38:50.340 --> 00:38:52.440 Daffodil Tyminski: there's just you what you sent me. 403 00:38:57.480 --> 00:38:59.580 Daffodil Tyminski: This is like my bad. 404 00:39:01.260 --> 00:39:06.120 Daffodil Tyminski: bar chart reading skills, so one of the reasons why I wanted to do the survey was because. 405 00:39:06.300 --> 00:39:10.980 melissa diner : there's no human here i'm talking Oh, you want me to do. 406 00:39:11.700 --> 00:39:13.350 melissa diner : We can't hear you at all Jamie. 407 00:39:13.560 --> 00:39:14.640 Daffodil Tyminski: The last thing we just heard. 408 00:39:18.480 --> 00:39:19.650 Daffodil Tyminski: Well, really so. 409 00:39:21.150 --> 00:39:21.540 melissa diner : It must. 410 00:39:30.120 --> 00:39:30.780 melissa diner : be great. 411 00:39:32.730 --> 00:39:33.780 melissa diner : Moving forward. 412 00:39:36.660 --> 00:39:37.620 Alix Gucovsky: We can't hear you. 413 00:39:38.040 --> 00:39:39.150 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah we just can't hear you. 414 00:39:39.990 --> 00:39:41.700 orson bean: Maybe she could call you def. 415 00:39:42.180 --> 00:39:43.590 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah why don't you tell me what. 416 00:39:43.980 --> 00:39:46.320 Daffodil Tyminski: You call me and walk me through what this is and i'll translate. 417 00:39:46.770 --> 00:39:46.980 and 418 00:39:48.120 --> 00:39:49.800 melissa diner : During this out or just. 419 00:39:51.030 --> 00:39:58.320 melissa diner : Read the numbers, with the most votes and then you will be good to go Chris honest and not when anyone with a 12 volt or more one. 420 00:40:01.530 --> 00:40:03.990 Daffodil Tyminski: And it was the 12 volt the number of the far right. 421 00:40:09.780 --> 00:40:20.820 Daffodil Tyminski: And I think because i'm operating different devices and I got the email on my phone it didn't the spacing so off, but this is what I have based on your email, which is the survey results lauren siegel. 422 00:40:21.870 --> 00:40:43.080 Daffodil Tyminski: 12 votes Matthew Royce 12 votes, Chris Florida 13 votes were new snow jalali 12 votes and your MIC at 18 votes Mikhail Jensen 13 votes Barry casserly 12 votes Korean begins key 13 votes, I believe that is. 423 00:40:47.100 --> 00:40:47.640 Daffodil Tyminski: that's a. 424 00:40:50.670 --> 00:40:51.300 james murez: Do you want to have. 425 00:40:51.840 --> 00:40:54.960 james murez: a telephone conversation with her to confirm that that's correct or do we. 426 00:40:54.960 --> 00:40:56.820 Daffodil Tyminski: I mean, Melissa just say yay or nay i'm just. 427 00:40:56.820 --> 00:41:02.310 Daffodil Tyminski: Because the spacing got screwed up reading on my phone i'm looking at the bar chart and that seems to be right it's just the print is really small. 428 00:41:02.610 --> 00:41:03.510 james murez: I didn't go. 429 00:41:03.600 --> 00:41:06.120 james murez: I mean if you say it was sent to me, I did not receive it. 430 00:41:07.560 --> 00:41:08.310 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah you're on it. 431 00:41:08.940 --> 00:41:09.300 Which. 432 00:41:10.500 --> 00:41:11.910 james murez: Which accounts, he send it to. 433 00:41:12.690 --> 00:41:13.110 melissa diner : them. 434 00:41:13.410 --> 00:41:14.730 Daffodil Tyminski: There is, when at. 435 00:41:14.850 --> 00:41:15.150 Yes. 436 00:41:16.860 --> 00:41:17.580 james murez: I have to go look. 437 00:41:17.670 --> 00:41:18.150 james murez: At account. 438 00:41:18.180 --> 00:41:24.570 Daffodil Tyminski: Too many guys again lauren siegel Matthew Royce Chris Lord renews in Jamaica. 439 00:41:24.960 --> 00:41:25.710 Daffodil Tyminski: We cow. 440 00:41:26.520 --> 00:41:28.530 Daffodil Tyminski: Barry Castle a current begins key. 441 00:41:29.940 --> 00:41:32.490 james murez: Okay, great well we'll publish that tomorrow on the website. 442 00:41:32.760 --> 00:41:36.630 Daffodil Tyminski: it's in the repo publish I mean now what's great about this is, we have the. 443 00:41:36.630 --> 00:41:41.910 Daffodil Tyminski: Actual survey with everyone's choices that we can publish. 444 00:41:43.980 --> 00:41:55.770 Daffodil Tyminski: Now Ivan is suggesting that we need to read all of this now and honestly I can't imagine why we need to go read through I don't know 160 names right now. 445 00:41:56.880 --> 00:41:57.960 Daffodil Tyminski: We have it all the. 446 00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:02.580 james murez: way so it's all captured you're correct, we do not have to read through. 447 00:42:04.620 --> 00:42:06.210 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay um. 448 00:42:08.070 --> 00:42:08.670 james murez: I will. 449 00:42:11.340 --> 00:42:12.780 james murez: I will share my screen. 450 00:42:13.530 --> 00:42:14.610 melissa diner : And that will you not. 451 00:42:14.610 --> 00:42:15.750 melissa diner : hear me right now. 452 00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:16.950 james murez: You can now. 453 00:42:17.130 --> 00:42:18.810 Daffodil Tyminski: that's more from you. 454 00:42:19.680 --> 00:42:36.840 melissa diner : Well, I don't know why went out but, but what I wanted to just say was that's correct and, in addition to the four people that emailed me I added them to the automatic spreadsheet that shows everyone's vote and the pie chart so it's very transparent and for anyone doubting. 455 00:42:38.730 --> 00:42:42.300 james murez: So I can share screen it it's now part of the video. 456 00:42:44.340 --> 00:42:56.520 james murez: This shows 16 responses, so I guess the others were sent to you by email that's Okay, and those were forwarded to us as well, were they. 457 00:42:59.070 --> 00:42:59.820 Daffodil Tyminski: They were boarded. 458 00:43:00.060 --> 00:43:05.610 Daffodil Tyminski: Melissa forward to them for me to me you and Ivan just so we could double check her tally. 459 00:43:05.970 --> 00:43:08.250 Daffodil Tyminski: Based on the automatic I mean it's it's. 460 00:43:08.580 --> 00:43:17.400 james murez: Okay here i'm going to just quickly share the screen here also so we can get this into our recording so if anybody else wants to see if they'll be able to see it. 461 00:43:21.690 --> 00:43:24.240 james murez: Okay, so there we go everybody see that. 462 00:43:25.740 --> 00:43:30.810 james murez: That is pretty much the entirety of the message, and I can scroll down. 463 00:43:30.810 --> 00:43:33.180 CJmacbook: Here i'm on scroll back. 464 00:43:33.450 --> 00:43:35.490 james murez: Well, no, this, this is the whole list. 465 00:43:36.570 --> 00:43:38.100 CJmacbook: But what's the results. 466 00:43:38.790 --> 00:43:47.520 Daffodil Tyminski: Oh Max results yeah Jim I wouldn't do it this way, because this email and capture all of the individual ones so go back to that pie chart for the bar chart. 467 00:43:47.940 --> 00:43:56.280 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, these are the results but that's just Melissa reading off the bar chart okay so go off the bar chart because that's the actually automated. 468 00:43:57.930 --> 00:44:08.250 melissa diner : part is automated and then I just added Stan cj and Clark and Chi and Roberts manual votes by tallying at the top. 469 00:44:08.670 --> 00:44:09.330 james murez: that's what I did. 470 00:44:09.780 --> 00:44:14.430 james murez: And that was just that was part of the video so it's all there, so we only have this one last thing here. 471 00:44:14.520 --> 00:44:22.650 CJmacbook: Jim yes, can you just please the very top one of that which had the actual le. 472 00:44:24.030 --> 00:44:24.600 james murez: Yes. 473 00:44:25.290 --> 00:44:28.170 orson bean: And we shouldn't show models right. 474 00:44:28.290 --> 00:44:28.590 yeah. 475 00:44:29.670 --> 00:44:34.320 james murez: it's all part of it's all part of public record there's nothing, nothing to be hidden here. 476 00:44:34.650 --> 00:44:36.030 orson bean: there's the thought that that's. 477 00:44:36.810 --> 00:44:38.580 orson bean: On papers, so that it's not public. 478 00:44:38.580 --> 00:44:40.110 Ivan: No, no, no gym. 479 00:44:42.150 --> 00:44:43.230 To be public. 480 00:44:45.090 --> 00:44:46.530 Ivan: So you have to be public. 481 00:44:46.680 --> 00:44:47.940 james murez: I got around that. 482 00:44:48.090 --> 00:44:48.750 james murez: I got that. 483 00:44:50.220 --> 00:44:50.670 james murez: Video. 484 00:44:51.300 --> 00:44:54.990 Ivan: or someone sold it to everybody voted for. 485 00:44:55.320 --> 00:44:58.650 Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, but I bet it doesn't have to be public, at this moment. 486 00:44:59.100 --> 00:45:01.650 Ivan: is in the public record better if it is. 487 00:45:01.680 --> 00:45:02.520 But if you don't have. 488 00:45:05.190 --> 00:45:05.850 Daffodil Tyminski: 60 books or. 489 00:45:06.300 --> 00:45:06.900 melissa diner : Books there's. 490 00:45:07.260 --> 00:45:17.550 melissa diner : An automated sheet that Google automatically publishes and I added all of the manual votes to that 100% transparent for anyone we calculate. 491 00:45:17.730 --> 00:45:17.880 james murez: You. 492 00:45:17.940 --> 00:45:18.840 melissa diner : want me to have. 493 00:45:21.210 --> 00:45:29.640 james murez: Excuse me, it just turned one o'clock, we need to finish this Ivan you need to stay out of this, I will ask you if we have any questions okay. 494 00:45:30.240 --> 00:45:30.660 Ivan: All right. 495 00:45:30.750 --> 00:45:36.750 james murez: In a short meeting, thank you, we will deal with it when we deal with it, we have 655 kress more. 496 00:45:38.610 --> 00:45:40.920 james murez: Is shep shep is probably not still here. 497 00:45:41.340 --> 00:45:44.850 Alix Gucovsky: Jim and I just told you there's no hearing scheduled for this yet. 498 00:45:44.850 --> 00:45:46.830 james murez: So okay so let's postpone. 499 00:45:46.860 --> 00:45:47.100 Alix Gucovsky: let's. 500 00:45:47.160 --> 00:45:55.140 james murez: postpone is there anything else that we have to deal with I don't think, so I think we got through everything, but that, and that was that's, the only thing we didn't finish on the whole damn thing. 501 00:45:56.040 --> 00:45:57.960 Daffodil Tyminski: Well, the neighborhood committee, we need to come back to you, but we. 502 00:45:57.960 --> 00:45:59.100 james murez: pay for that next month, you. 503 00:45:59.100 --> 00:46:00.480 melissa diner : Come back to the yes yeah. 504 00:46:01.050 --> 00:46:05.970 melissa diner : So what's the motion on the floor to postpone crust crust whatever. 505 00:46:06.330 --> 00:46:08.760 james murez: yeah 10 a we're postponing. 506 00:46:08.760 --> 00:46:09.060 10. 507 00:46:11.910 --> 00:46:13.500 james murez: and work postponing. 508 00:46:14.490 --> 00:46:18.150 melissa diner : The just executive ordering that are we making you. 509 00:46:19.110 --> 00:46:19.320 james murez: know. 510 00:46:19.350 --> 00:46:20.490 Making it an executive. 511 00:46:22.950 --> 00:46:24.300 melissa diner : and moving forward, I. 512 00:46:24.300 --> 00:46:38.400 melissa diner : would ask, I don't care what don says we're volunteers we're going to take motions that are consensus without a vote cow, I do not have time to be here till one o'clock in the morning, or does anyone else, and I really hopefully. 513 00:46:38.430 --> 00:46:39.810 We take that, in consideration. 514 00:46:41.910 --> 00:46:42.540 Ivan: around that. 515 00:46:42.630 --> 00:46:44.970 james murez: Violation Thank you we're. 516 00:46:45.300 --> 00:46:47.670 james murez: going to stop now let's let's adjourn. 517 00:46:48.390 --> 00:46:49.770 Daffodil Tyminski: Making a motion to adjourn. 518 00:46:49.950 --> 00:46:51.150 james murez: yeah and the time is. 519 00:46:52.590 --> 00:47:00.900 jim robb: I just want to say that this meeting went very well and I appreciate everybody on the team is this, this was nobody screaming or yelling at each other. 520 00:47:00.990 --> 00:47:03.360 james murez: And you got elected congratulations show. 521 00:47:03.390 --> 00:47:06.210 jim robb: Thank you, I got elected twice there you go. 522 00:47:06.390 --> 00:47:09.540 james murez: There you go all right, everybody Thank you all for staying late. 523 00:47:10.230 --> 00:47:11.460 Vicki Halliday: yeah guys. 524 00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:12.420 you're. 525 00:47:15.240 --> 00:47:18.330 james murez: This puppet puppet doesn't even have his hand up you can't say goodnight. 526 00:47:18.810 --> 00:47:23.790 Alix Gucovsky: alyssa, can you please send me the votes on the loop back, please. 527 00:47:24.870 --> 00:47:29.550 melissa diner : i'll send it to you when the President says, I can send it to you, and when it's final. 528 00:47:30.630 --> 00:47:34.860 james murez: yeah it will okay we'll work on that tomorrow, good night everybody, thank you.