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james murez: How are you speaking?

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james murez: I recognize you. You walk by my house every day.

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james murez: I'm the one with bird

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Short your day. Now,

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Thank you,

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james murez: Larry. You got to give me a minute. I got a

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james murez: get mad online and figure out he's on the committee

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james murez: in two more minutes. I'm just for

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get back in front of my

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jim murez: Hello, Matt, So I uh I already sent you to be co-host and i'll i'll help you through this part. Um, i'm just my dinner. So I won't turn on my camera. Just yeah,

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Matt Royce: all right.

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Matt Royce: We're back on.

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Matt Royce: But

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jim murez: if you see any of the members, do you see the attendee list out at the bottom where it says, participants.

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Matt Royce: Yeah,

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Matt Royce: okay. And on there there's two tabs. One of them says panelists up at the top. The other says, Attendee,

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Matt Royce: any of the attendees that are part of the committee,

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jim murez: so i'd see your hand this up. What you do is you go to there. You see the three dots on the right hand side.

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Matt Royce: Um! You put you hover over the top of corinne's name. Oh, mine! Says more. There's no dots

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Matt Royce: um. I got to promote the panelists

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Matt Royce: on my laptop.

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Matt Royce: I see Andrews there same

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Matt Royce: Jeff. Maybe Jeff Martin. I think

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jim murez: um I don't see it

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jim murez: is that. Well, i'm allowed to talk.

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corinne Baginski: Thank you. Hi!

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Matt Royce: I don't know if Jeff Martin is is the same as Jeff or not. I don't either. Can I demote him? She's not.

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jim murez: You can always demote them back.

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Matt Royce: Oh, that's that's you, Jeff. All right.

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Matt Royce: I am temporary chair tonight.

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jim murez: I see Andrews here,

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Matt Royce: Um,

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Matt Royce: Barry Andrew Harry's here, too. Very yeah.

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Matt Royce: Okay. Let me just make a quick announcement. So everybody's aware of it. I don't know that you are

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jim murez: the people that were supposed to do the sanitary

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jim murez: sanitation pumping plant. Item Number nine on the agenda.

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jim murez: They've asked to pull it, and they won't be coming this week, but they're going to reschedule for some later time.

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Matt Royce: Okay. So anybody that's here for that item. We won't. Be discussing it.

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Matt Royce: Okay, We'll repeat that again later

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Matt Royce: Ah, and and so for anybody wondering I'm not Mikkel. He's traveling or something. So I am being a temporary chair in his place. Who are you, anyway.

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Matt Royce: Yeah,

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Matt Royce: I used to be the chair. I've never been the zoom chair before, so you have to bear with me.

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I'm not resume literate.

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Jeff: You're doing a great job, Matt.

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Matt Royce: I'm gonna i'm going to stay. This is Jim. I'm going to stay online

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Matt Royce: help, Matt with the cherry, especially when it comes to public comment time calling on people and brought in as speakers.

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barrycassilly: You know, Matt is really bad at that.

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Matt Royce: Um, Okay, I guess I don't see any other committee members on the list.

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jim murez: Yeah, Usually what we do is we say, if there's anybody in the in the audience, it's a committee member. Raise your hand.

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Matt Royce: Yeah, I don't see anybody

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Matt Royce: we have for them, so i'll promote it for you.

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Matt Royce: Go ahead and start all right, part of me. Let's do the roll Call All right.

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Matt Royce: Lauren's here.

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Matt Royce: Um!

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Matt Royce: Oh, do we have a new lithic number? I wasn't.

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Matt Royce: Oh, wait a second, Jeff.

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lauren siegel: There's a new one past Jeff.

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barrycassilly: Where's Where is that?

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lauren siegel: He was with us last meeting?

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barrycassilly: Oh, that guy!

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Matt Royce: I know him. I don't know if he's on this meeting.

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Matt Royce: Chris Mclean, if you're in the meeting. Right try to raise your hand. There's a Christopher A. But I don't know who that is, and there's a ch. There's a Steve with his hand up. I went back down.

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Matt Royce: Now,

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jim murez: Steve, are you a committee member? Lower your hand if you're not a committee member.

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jim murez: Thank you.

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Matt Royce: Okay,

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Matt Royce: I don't know. Well, we'll. We'll come back to that if he gets joins. Barry's here.

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Matt Royce: I'm here it's not.

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Matt Royce: Yeah. You have to do a in zoom calls. You have to do a

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Matt Royce: actually. Are you here, Andrew? My,

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Andrew Mika: I'm here

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Matt Royce: here. Okay,

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Matt Royce: very niche

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Matt Royce: here. And Jeff Martin here.

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Matt Royce: All right.

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Matt Royce: Um,

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Matt Royce: okay. I've number four

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Matt Royce: a motion to prove the minutes from the last meeting.

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lauren siegel: I will make the motion to approve the minutes.

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Matt Royce: Okay, Lauren,

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Matt Royce: Anybody want to second that

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corinne Baginski: I can it.

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Matt Royce: The Korean. Okay,

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Matt Royce: Okay, Does anybody object to proving the minutes?

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Matt Royce: No. Okay.

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jim murez: Uh wait. Is that there's one hand up in the audience.

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jim murez: Damn Dan, Are you raising your hand because you want to comment on the minutes.

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jim murez: Otherwise lower your hand, please.

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jim murez: Thank you.

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jim murez: Okay, Go ahead, Matt: Sorry.

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Matt Royce: Ok, i'm Number five, a little bit conversation. I'll declare any conflict of interest or export to communications linking items on the agenda.

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Matt Royce: Anybody have anything I I do. I um. Some people from the panel community reached out to me over the week to find out how the process goes in terms of how they emailed me, to find out when they can give public comments. So that was my communication with them.

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Matt Royce: Okay,

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barrycassilly: I have like to partake communication.

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barrycassilly: I was told the pick of all was bad

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barrycassilly: by, nevertheless, the community.

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Matt Royce: Okay,

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Matt Royce: Anybody else.

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Matt Royce: Okay, I guess not. All right. Um. Item Number six. General: Is there any general public comment for items that are not on the agenda. If If you have that, I guess, raise your zoom hand right or Press Star nine. If you're dialing it on the cell phone.

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Matt Royce: Give it a few more seconds.

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Matt Royce: So there's one person. So last one. Okay, Steve, go ahead. You You're allowed to talk Now,

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barrycassilly: thank you. This is Steve Gumflow. I'm. A member of the Paddle Tennis Community, and the Historical Committee, the Venice Beach Pal Tennis Historical Committee, and Ah, just wanted to say that all this here

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jim murez: Um, Steve, let me interrupt you. I'm sorry this is Jim. These are for items, not on the agenda. Public comment on items, not on the agenda. If you're speaking about the public about the panel tennis court that'd be an item on the agenda. So you need to hold your public comment until that item is announced.

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jim murez: Okay, very good. I understand. Thank you for clarifying.

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Matt Royce: Yeah, thank you.

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jim murez: All right. You got no other hands.

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Matt Royce: Anybody have a comment for anything that's not on the agenda.

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Matt Royce: There are no hands. I don't see any.

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Matt Royce: All right. Yeah, General, call a comment. It's closed.

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Matt Royce: So item seven. I see the Cnc report. I think this is the part where Mikhail,

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Matt Royce: as for volunteers to take on projects.

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Matt Royce: Um,

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Matt Royce: so I don't know if anybody wants to take on one of these.

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Matt Royce: I'll take Carter Carter. Okay, Karen:

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Matt Royce: Okay, Anybody want the Ocean Ocean Avenue case?

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Mehrnoosh Mojallali: I'll take that.

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Matt Royce: Bernie. Sh: Okay,

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Matt Royce: Great.

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Matt Royce: Okay. I think that was it for item Seven

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Matt Royce: item eight is um.

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Matt Royce: I think we have two cases that have been recommended by staff members for Diminus.

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Matt Royce: Um.

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Matt Royce: I believe we have to ask for public comment on this. Right, Jim.

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jim murez: Yes.

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Matt Royce: Okay,

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Matt Royce: just ask you. You actually just have to ask. Does anybody want to take? Are they on a consent, or I've been to minimis?

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Matt Royce: Um, it's kind of the same thing,

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Matt Royce: minima. What does it say on? What does it say on the agenda, the minibus or Arkansas de Minimis.

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jim murez: So yeah, you just take public comment on each one of them. If there is no public home, you could approve them as de minimis.

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Matt Royce: Okay, does anybody have a public comment on either either one of these cases? Twenty, four East Eighteenth Avenue or eight hundred and seven Quarterly Avenue.

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Matt Royce: I see no hands see no hands. Okay.

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Matt Royce: Um.

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Matt Royce: Okay. Does somebody want to make a motion to approve these as de venomous? Yes, i'd like to make a motion to approve them. As to

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Matt Royce: who is that?

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Matt Royce: Sorry, Andrew? Okay,

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Matt Royce: Does anybody object to appro approval of that motion,

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Matt Royce: seeing none. The motion passes.

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Matt Royce: Ok. And then, just to repeat, Item nine has been pulled by the presenters, because they,

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Matt Royce: I believe, collecting more information

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Matt Royce: to present at a future date. So if you're here for item nine, the pumping station,

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Matt Royce: we're not going to hear that tonight, but we'll reschedule it. I guess, whenever it's ready.

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Matt Royce: Okay? And then I guess this is what some people are here for. Item ten,

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Matt Royce: the paddle tennis court improvements.

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Matt Royce: Um.

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Matt Royce: So it looks like we do we have a presentation from somebody like Larry? Maybe

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lauren siegel: Larry presented at the last meeting.

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Matt Royce: Oh, he did. Okay,

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Matt Royce: Um, Do you? Do we think he needs to present something again or

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lauren siegel: well, there was we. We had a little bit of a discussion, and there was no

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lauren siegel: they had no motion at the time, And so Mikhail asked him to go back, and and together they crafted. It looks like two motions. So maybe Larry just wants to discuss it.

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Matt Royce: Yeah, Okay. So, Larry, I will.

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Matt Royce: You want to allow him to talk, or you?

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Matt Royce: So I just love a talk. Yeah, you can allow to talk if he wants to to share his screen and stuff that you have to be able to. He wants to do the presentation. Then you have to promote him to be up panels.

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Matt Royce: Uh: okay, Larry, you can speak if you unmute.

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Larry Nagler: Thank you. Um. Can you hear me first of all?

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Matt Royce: Yes, okay. Do you want to see me, or is there a way I can be seen, or should I?

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Matt Royce: But that's up to you? Well, do you want to present something?

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Matt Royce: I do? I do I do? Briefly, Yes,

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Matt Royce: we promote you. So Do you have a screen share or something you want to do?

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Larry Nagler: I know

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Larry Nagler: I I do. I hit join as panelists. That's what it says.

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Matt Royce: Yeah,

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Matt Royce: if you want to be seen or share something,

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Matt Royce: it's up to you,

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lauren siegel: and then you can turn your camera on

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jim murez: and unmute.

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jim murez: Larry, you're muted. You need to unmute.

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Larry Nagler: Okay, I have unmuted. I don't see myself, but

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Larry Nagler: Ted. Can you hear me?

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Matt Royce: Yes, Yes, okay.

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Larry Nagler: I did make a presentation last time, but I do think that i'd like to focus on

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Larry Nagler: a particular aspect which has to do with the

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Larry Nagler: the pickle ball use. Uh, I I will do that first, and then, if you would like me to discuss the the bidding issue later, I will. As to the pickle ball use. You have attached to

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Larry Nagler: the agenda

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Larry Nagler: some attachments which I have sent in the second one is a in effect, a legal brief. I am a lawyer. I am doing this pro bono, and what I did is I looked at the creation of the

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Larry Nagler: paddle tennis courts, and I found that as part of the creation of the pedal tennis courts, there were covenants that were placed

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Larry Nagler: on the construction as a condition to the approval by the Coastal commission, and the Covenants say that these are to be for paddle tennis courts, and it is to be used in perpetuity.

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Larry Nagler: It is to bind all users

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Larry Nagler: all users of the paddle tennis facilities.

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Larry Nagler: So, and it's to run with the land permanently.

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Larry Nagler: Now this is a part of the attachments it's the second attachment. If you care to open it later, you can look at it. I don't want to do that now, because that'd be too distracting. But I will tell you that it's there.

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Larry Nagler: Okay.

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Larry Nagler: So

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Larry Nagler: the bottom line is that

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Larry Nagler: the the the courts were created under a permanent condition to run with the land to be used as paddle courts, and it therefore it would be illegal to use it for any other purpose.

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Larry Nagler: Um,

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Larry Nagler: in addition to that,

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Larry Nagler: uh, I also attached as part of that exhibit

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Larry Nagler: a copy of the building permit, pursuant to which the courts were built,

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Larry Nagler: including the notes to the building permit, and it shows that the lines on the courts are to be pedal tennis lives, so to place

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Larry Nagler: pickle ball lines, to paint pickle ball lines on the court would be a violation of the construction permit. So for those two reasons. Yeah, this is what you're now looking at. I really would prefer that you not moon that around anywhere. If you don't mind.

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jim murez: Well, i'm trying to get it into the recorded uh history.

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Larry Nagler: Okay, because

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jim murez: he's being recorded, and by scrolling through it, it puts it into the recording. If anybody ever wanted to go back and look.

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Larry Nagler: Okay, Excellent! Excellent! What What I am

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Larry Nagler: now doing is summarizing for you What's in there.

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Larry Nagler: So what So our basic position in the paddle tennis community is that the courts must be used for paddle tests that cannot be used for anything else, and if i'm wrong legally, I would like somebody to explain it to me.

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Larry Nagler: In addition, you cannot paint any pickle ball lines on the courts, because that would violate the building permit.

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Larry Nagler: Now, I have presented three motions

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Larry Nagler: the first. This is not necessarily an order in which they've been printed on your sheet. But basically what i'm about to say is, is there

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Larry Nagler: The first motion is that?

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Larry Nagler: Ah, the motion is to use the courts only for paddle tennis courts, pursuant to the covenant that runs with the land. That's number one,

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Larry Nagler: which you can discuss, and we can all discuss and vote on number two.

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Larry Nagler: The committee is not willing to do that.

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Larry Nagler: Um as an alternative,

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Larry Nagler: a fallback position, if you will.

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Larry Nagler: I am asking that a motion to be made, and and that you cannot paint pickleball lines on the core

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Larry Nagler: and Motion Number three is that if you do not accept my motion, number one, that my motion be that

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lauren siegel: if pickleball players seek to use the courts,

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Larry Nagler: they must do so pursuant to permits which they have not so far obtained, the

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Larry Nagler: they have been, they have been gratuitously granted the right to use three of the courts

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Larry Nagler: for two days, a week from eight zero A. M. To noon, without seeking or obtaining any permits.

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Larry Nagler: They have

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Larry Nagler: taped down lines with tape, which they sometimes remove, and sometimes don't remove when they're done;

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Larry Nagler: my other motions are, it's accepted, the motion would be that they only be permitted to play pursuant to permits that are issued

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Larry Nagler: then only for the time periods that I indicated in my motion, which are the three courts, the two days a week for the three hours. So that's

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Larry Nagler: the essence of one of my motions. If you want to have discussion about it. We can, or, if you like, I can talk very briefly about the bidding motion. Which would you prefer?

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Andrew Mika: I have so many questions.

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Matt Royce: Okay, Um, should we be taking? Yes, what? What? What's the process, Matthew? Are we? How we structuring this?

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Matt Royce: Well, if you have quick clarifying questions,

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Andrew Mika: it's Andrew.

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barrycassilly: Oh, Andrew,

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Matt Royce: all right. But but perhaps clarifying questions or lengthy questions. Perhaps we should take public comment for.

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Matt Royce: Yeah, I think we should talk about.

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lauren siegel: I'm happy to your public comment. First.

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Matt Royce: Yeah, that's the appropriate one.

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Matt Royce: So then we'll table. We'll table the other motion for the moment.

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Matt Royce: Yeah, I think we have a general idea. Okay, All right, then. Then Then i'm at your disposal. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, seven people with their hands up. Um! Who is running this meeting?

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Matt Royce: Matthew is, but i'm helping him with the public. Oh, I don't think Matthew is running this.

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Andrew Mika: there. Yeah, like, let's clunk.

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Matt Royce: Okay, uh, I see Adam

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Matt Royce: work with fork. I wanted to screw up your name but Adam.

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Matt Royce: Ah, you can speak now. Hi, there! My name is Adam Pokeriki. Thank you for having me. I live at one hundred and twelve Catamaran Street been a Venice resident for six years. I'd like to add to the public record my support appreciation. Since there is a member of the

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Adam Pokornicky: I've been playing panel tennis at the courts. Ah, that is bouncers, of course. This I've been a speech from New York six years ago. These courts through these chords I have met my first and closest friends here in La and over six years later, continue to meet, compete, meet an ever-grown group of friends and Palestinians on a daily week monthly year basis

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Adam Pokornicky: for almost everyone I know in the Venezuela Beach to cattle tennis community. These courts are like the Marchiers, a place where everyone knows your name

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Adam Pokornicky: or so. Throughout the past two and a half years has experienced Covid, these course became a sanctuary for Catalonia's players, and kind of curious to get outside, get exercise accompanied and encountered human contact in a safe and stressful manner. As a result, growth that interest in Macile tennis has been explosive and seen unprecedented levels of participation.

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Adam Pokornicky: Then it's paddle tennis courts. Not only had a historical precedence community, but as the de facto home base for all that is paddle tennis in the greater Los Angeles area. It is known as the Mecca Pedal Times, for a reason as an avid player who makes it to their courts. Almost once a day the popular pad of tennis has forced us to deal with overcrowding

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Adam Pokornicky: competition for a time on a daily basis, waiting patiently, for up to an out of play is the norm as etiquette, challenging, and respect for others. Waiting has been woven into the fathers of our community. Many would call this a high quality problem, except for the fact that over the past year we've seen an influx of pickleball players constantly trying to take over.

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Matt Royce: I'm going to ask you to wrap up your thought. There.

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Adam Pokornicky: all right. I'll say this at the end. I'd like to add a couple of additional comments to the motions that Larry has, and into,

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Adam Pokornicky: whereas the requirements for Palestinians are best in course lines, and that's a specific height to the steam power of the game can only be found that when a no-case, railway, primary location in one thousand nine hundred and eighty, one, whereas the requirements for pick of all do not eat. Fencing to play can be facilitated by using any flat concrete service that can be converted, and we're modified to speak, Of of course, just about N. Ros. And L. A. Taking away from the historically and designated battice, categorize our subjects, covers for a second or Atlanta breach. I add an addition to motion.

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barrycassilly: Ten point, two pit corbalship underlying you. Study with the Venice's neighborhood counsel in collaboration. The Border Park directed to seek out the space separately from, and without consideration for future and use of the

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Matt Royce: We've got a lot

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lauren siegel: And, Matthew, maybe we should set up a timer and let

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Matt Royce: I. I was trying to be generous, so I guess I can't be.

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lauren siegel: Well, it sounds like we have a lot of speakers, so let's just make sure,

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Matt Royce: and they can be heard.

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Matt Royce: I want to go.

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Matt Royce: I want to leave it to one minute first, because it's quite a few speakers put their hands up, so i'll start a timer on my phone here. But can we just acknowledge that this is more community involvement that we've had in the entire year that I've been on Lyme, and so we should, at least, you know, recognize that people are very passionate about this and giving them a chance to speak.

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Matt Royce: Yeah, I mean, do you think we should do more than one minute?

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lauren siegel: No, no, no. I think we should stick with the two minutes like we do with everybody. It's only fair.

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jim murez: You know, Matt, the board the Board tries to tell people between their public comments to the committees because we want the discussion to be head of the committee.

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Matt Royce: Okay, Well, let's say our committee.

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Matt Royce: We got okay. Next Speaker: John. Pardon,

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Jon Pardoen: John, you can speak now. Hello! Can you hear me?

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Matt Royce: Yes,

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Jon Pardoen: thank you for having me. My name is John Pardon. I live down in Orange County. I have been coming up to Venice for the past twenty-five years We have paddle tennis courts down in Orange county. They're all private, and for there's no public courts. I greatly enjoy using the Venice courts. I've made a lot of friends also. Um! I love my picnic. All also one concern with the Venice area are the residents nearby. One problem that pick a ball is having is when they build. Pickleball

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Jon Pardoen: is the noise, and you have a lot of, I know. Realize there's a lot of activity going on in Venice Beach. But pickleball is a noisier sport, and I think if the if there's been a lot of articles I'm. In different states and different neighborhoods where pick up all courts are put in,

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Jon Pardoen: it causes the problem just because of the noise. So that's just one thing to consider with

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Jon Pardoen: with. Why, Why, I believe that pick a ball should not be put in at Venice Beach, and I believe it is the Mecca of paddle tennis, and I believe it should remain as paddle tennis.

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Jon Pardoen: Okay, thank you again. Thank you for. Let me speak.

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Jon Pardoen: Thank you. Okay. Bye: Um.

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Matt Royce: Okay, It's a Sunstead.

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Matt Royce: Matt. Do you see that you can put people's hands down after they've spoken. Oh, let me do that. It's under the more. There you go. I found that.

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Lisa Sundstedt: Hi! My name is actually Esme Gregson. I apologize. I'm using my roommate's computer today.

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Matt Royce: yes, um. I just wanted to. Um let the committee know. I believe that,

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Lisa Sundstedt: Larry said in his presentation that attachment to had the covenants, and it's actually I I I know it's not attachment to um. I'm not sure if maybe it originally was attachment to. But um I believe it's attachment for,

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Lisa Sundstedt: but i'm not even sure of that. It's just I know it's not attached to, and I also wanted to add that the paddle tennis community,

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Lisa Sundstedt: it really does feel very strongly about Venice Beach. There are a lot of other corps that have been converted or now are of quote, unquote mixed use of pick, a ball and paddle tennis.

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Lisa Sundstedt: But to do that to I did a lot of the research, and i'm a member of the committee for the historical designation of these courts which we are,

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Lisa Sundstedt: which we're planning to eventually obtain or seek, and

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Lisa Sundstedt: um they are the the hub and the Mecca of the sport, and to convert them to hybrid or to paint pickable lines, which is, in my opinion, beside the bridge. But that's because i'm a crazy battle tennis player, anyway. Thank you. That's all I understand.

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Matt Royce: Okay, Thank you.

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Matt Royce: Next is Steve parentheses Los Angeles.

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Matt Royce: Steve, are you there? You want to unmute yourself? Yes, Steve, Steve gumplo. Sorry about that, Los Angeles.

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Steve (Los Angeles): So this is Steve gumble i'm a leader in the Palatine community. I'm. A member of the Historical Committee of Powell, Tennis Historical Committee, and the reason we have that committee is we're working to get historic designation for the courts.

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Steve (Los Angeles): They've been around for fifty nine years at the Wrexham Park there, and they are what we call the Mecca of paddle tennis worldwide. They are the most important paddle tennis courts in the world.

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Steve (Los Angeles): Our sport is ah fairly small right now. It's It's growing across the country, but the original sport, pal Tennis. There's a Los Angeles is a hub for it,

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Steve (Los Angeles): and Bennett's beach is the Mecca. So ah! The historic nature of it and the centrality of it to our sport is extremely important to us. Pickleball is all over the country, and if pickleball moves into our Mecca of paddle tennis and starts taking over those courts. It would really

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Steve (Los Angeles): possibly be a death blow to our sport. This is where we have our national championships. This is where people come from all over the world to visit and play, so it's not just them coming into Venice for to play on our courts, which are already

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Steve (Los Angeles): overcrowded, as is uh, but it would be

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Steve (Los Angeles): a death to our sport

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Steve (Los Angeles): thirty seconds, Steve taking over our our Mecca so twenty seconds left.

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Steve (Los Angeles): We also have a petition that's ongoing right now, which I will send to the Committee's female, which has over one thousand two hundred signatures. Everyone on the petition

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Steve (Los Angeles): is signing to keep Pickleball completely off of those courts. I will send that to your email. The reason it's not submitted yet. Is it's still ongoing?

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Matt Royce: Okay? I was Steve. Sorry. Okay.

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Matt Royce: Thank you.

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Matt Royce: Andrea Stern, Are you there, Andrea?

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Andrea Stern: Yes, I am. Hi.

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Andrea Stern: Thank you so much for allowing me to speak. I'm going to talk in favor. Pickleball.

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Andrea Stern: No one wants to take paddle tennis courts away from paddle tennis players, simply asking that we be allowed to play pickleball there

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Andrea Stern: now and then. There's eleven courts there, and Tuesdays and Thursday mornings. From eight to twelve

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Andrea Stern: we bring our nets. We taped it down. I always pull up my tape again always, and take away the net.

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Andrea Stern: I mean.

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Andrea Stern: I'm part of this community. I would think

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Andrea Stern: the Venice community. I I think that cattle. Tennis is great. I happen to like to play pickleball, and a lot of other people do, too. And I would think, as a community we can include

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Andrea Stern: everyone and allow everyone, recreation being that this is a public court. My tax dollars pay for it as much as everyone else is,

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Andrea Stern: and no one wants to take anything away from paddle tennis. We just simply want to be able to use the courts,

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Andrea Stern: I I I can't believe there's so much resistance to this. It seems so

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Matt Royce: Good. Thank you. Andrea.

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Matt Royce: Okay, Jonathan Lee.

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Matt Royce: Can you hear me?

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Matt Royce: Yeah, Can you hear me?

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Jonathan Le: Yeah, um, hi! Jonathan Lee and I'm. A resident of Venice, and I just wanted to join

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Jonathan Le: to let the committee know that these courts they really are the heart and soul of the Pal Tennis community, and they're the reason our community exists today, and it has existed for decades. Now

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Jonathan Le: if these courts are taken away. And even if it's just a couple courts,

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Jonathan Le: you know that really harms our community, and the reason for that is that we've been able

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Matt Royce: to middle this community because of the fact that there are eleven course that number of courts has allowed us to gather people and build this community, and some of you may know there are some parks around Lena del Rey.

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Jonathan Le: Um a let uh a couple of cities uh parts in Culver City, and if you go to those arcs, you'll see that it's just not the same. And there's no community that that's built around this course, and it's because you need a certain amount, of course,

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Jonathan Le: gather all the levels of players to have the gates and to build the community that we build. So I just wanted to let the committee know that losing even just one or two courts is actually a really big deal to our community, and it actually truly arms our community. And it may not be obvious

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Jonathan Le: from the outside. Why, why not? Just one, two, three courts here and there, but for our community, because of the fact that it's so limited. You know, two or three courts really does make a difference.

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Jonathan Le: Thank you.

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Matt Royce: you can speak Now, Dan.

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Dan Factor (whatnot): Okay, testing. Can you hear me?

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Dan Factor (whatnot): Okay.

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Dan Factor (whatnot): So

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Dan Factor (whatnot): I have to disagree with speed cancer about

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Dan Factor (whatnot): thing, and that is that apple tennis is growing, even though he said it was a small sport. It's growing very fast in other parts of the Us. And in Europe there are places in Europe.

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Dan Factor (whatnot): They are building full facilities for paddle tennis.

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Dan Factor (whatnot): Our facility in Venice has a history that goes back sixty years, and the

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Dan Factor (whatnot): spurt has a history that goes back approximately a hundred years.

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Dan Factor (whatnot): About two days a week. I play paddle tennis, probably six days a week, and i'm not opposed to pick a ball, but I go to other locations.

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Dan Factor (whatnot): Pickle Ball has

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Dan Factor (whatnot): tens of dozens of locations in Los Angeles to play.

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Dan Factor (whatnot): Half of the courts in Los Angeles are in best, and so this is really a critical area for us to preserve and make sure that our community stays and stays. Strong

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Dan Factor (whatnot): people come to Venice sort of like. They come to Muscle Beach as world famous. The basketball courts have been in hundreds of movies. The Venice cattle, tennis courts. People come from Europe, and there are a number of people that come from Europe, and they know about these courts, and they come, and they play on these courts

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Dan Factor (whatnot): to change the nature of the courts and the usage of the quote

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Dan Factor (whatnot): cause irreparable harm to the paddle tennis community. Because what would happen is that the community could disintegrate an over period of time that irreparable harm would mean that our center of paddle tennis. So many people have said the Mecca of cattle tennis would be gone

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Matt Royce: pretty.

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Dan Factor (whatnot): I'm sorry I had been here. What? You said.

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Matt Royce: Yeah, thirty seconds. Okay.

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Dan Factor (whatnot): what I would like to do is just say that I hope the committee will consider, making sure that these courts remain cattle, tennis courts, and I support the

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Dan Factor (whatnot): the motions to make sure that that happens.

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Matt Royce: Okay, Thank you.

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Matt Royce: Sorry. One second

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Matt Royce: Wolf Wwl: W: You You can speak.

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Wulff: Hello, guys! Thank you for the bothering to speak in this this time. My name is Daniel Wolf. I'm from Venezuela. I came here five years ago, and the Venice Beach battle courts gave me a second home away from home and my family,

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Wulff: and that drove me with a group of people that are here listening to to start organizing a deliberate community. Now we have something called street battle, which is kind of

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Wulff: promoting and organizing all our pleasures that is ongoing the numbers. We have

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Wulff: one hundred people playing paral tennis, and we match make them, you know, in order to connect and grow our beautiful community, and then it's be battle chords for everyone who plays. But then it's in all the parks that people play is the place that

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Wulff: people celebrate Paradise People from New York, people from Italy, from everywhere they follow us, and when they come here they come and celebrate battle tennis in the make of part of tennis. So one of the major things in, for beside all our

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Wulff: players that has already speak today that I agree with one of the things that we Don't. Really love is the confusion with

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Wulff: our sport being played in the Mega of battle. Dennis:

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Wulff: Thank you.

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Matt Royce: Okay, Thank you.

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Matt Royce: Uh

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Matt Royce: Matthew Heinz,

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Matt Royce: you can speak now.

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Matthew Hines: Hello, Matthew Heinz. Here, Venice Resident, and i'd like to speak in opposition of the motion

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Matthew Hines: um

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Matthew Hines: as an avid pickleball player. I'd like to note that This is the fastest growing sport in America, and there's a dearth of places to play pickleball on the west side in La.

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Matthew Hines: One previous commenter

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Matthew Hines: noted all of the various paddle, tennis, or paddles, tennis courts all around the west side, in addition to the Venice courts, and there's not a single dedicated or shared Pickleball Court in the city of La, on the West side. You have to drive to other cities like West Hollywood,

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Matthew Hines: Santa Monica, or else again,

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Matthew Hines: i'd like to note that this uh

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Matthew Hines: sharing the courts would mean paddle. Tennis is not being taken away. The

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Matthew Hines: I'd like to say that we should be building an inclusive environment that Venice is known for rather than creating an exclusive environment, excluding certain brackets for players.

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Matthew Hines: These are publicly funded courts, and the idea of making a potentially making certain players pay to play creates different classes of players and creates an exclusive environment that I feel like would be detrimental, detrimental to the community in general.

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Matthew Hines: Thank you very much, and i'd like to reiterate my opposition to the motion.

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Matt Royce: Okay, thank you.

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Matt Royce: Um,

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Matt Royce: Katrina Glusak,

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Matt Royce: You should be able to speak.

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Matt Royce: Hi! If you can hear me. My name is Katrina Glusak. I'm. An active member of the community in Venice. I am the closest resident to the course my balcony is on court one.

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Katrina Glusac: There is no other resident that is closer than I am. My bedroom window is in the alleyway from the courts.

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Katrina Glusac: I am not bothered by the paddle tennis whatsoever. Neither are the other residents of our building. When you hear a deflated ball hit, there is not a noise violation there. Um! We did have one event that happened where there were pickleball players on the courts. Um over a weekend, and I could not sleep. I was disturbed by the events, so were other members of the building.

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Katrina Glusac: The address of the building is for Twentieth Avenue. I would like to put on record that as residents of this building um, the detriment of the noise that has been done in studies, and it's come out in multiple articles which we can provide. The committee with those articles would be a detriment to the residents there, based off of the fact that a whiffle ball

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Katrina Glusac: the ground when I did move into that building. I've been in in the alley for eleven years. I've been in this building for three and a half years.

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Matt Royce: There was no word from the city of any pickleball being played on those courts. Um! So I do think that it is a big issue for the for the residents that live in the building. The noise of a pickle ball versus a paddle. Ah, Pops

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Katrina Glusac: tennis ball, and I just like to put that on record as a resident of the area.

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Katrina Glusac: Thank you.

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Matt Royce: Okay, Thank you.

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Matt Royce: Um,

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Matt Royce: Christine Lee,

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Matt Royce: Are you there?

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Christine Lee: Here we go. Hello,

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Matt Royce: I don't.

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Matt Royce: Yeah, go ahead. My name is Christine Lee. I'm. A community organizer for Pop Powell, Venice. I've helped raise money for Wrex and Park by helping to put on tournaments for paddle tennis, and I just want to inform some of the committee members that you know

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Christine Lee: what's special about paddles on this is that we are enclosed by cages, and we absolutely need those cages, because when you hit

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Christine Lee: a paddle tennis ball you hit it quite hard, and if you don't have the fences, they could land up in Santa Monica. So, however, when you hit a whiffle ball, it doesn't go anywhere, and that's why pickleball is so popular, because it can take over an entire tennis court with four different groups playing, and the ball doesn't go anywhere. Well paddle. Tennis absolutely needs that. We are a seed game. Um. Lots of monthly people out there playing, and that's one of the reasons why we love it.

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Christine Lee: And I just want to add another thing about. I would like to dress the people who play pickleball, and that is having a few days of people playing pickleball really creates confusion and conflict on the courts like. For instance, this past weekend a couple of kids came to play pickleball on the weekend. They paid twenty dollars,

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Christine Lee: and then they got to the courts. They were full. They waited, and then they got on, and then a bunch of people, you know kind of said to them, Hey, i'm sorry these are historic piles on sports, and they were like, Well, I just pay twenty dollars a year, and I don't understand why we can't just share the course it's like. Well, they're very full. We have a community. We'll give you a paddle pipe out on this. But you know the thing is, the sports are quite different.

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Christine Lee: The sound is, you know,

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Matt Royce: a problem. And I love Kristen.

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Christine Lee: Okay. And I just want to

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Christine Lee: say to the committee, I really hope you will approve the motion. No pickle ball, Venus, because it's as iconic as Muscle Beach as a skate park. And we need to keep. We need to keep this history alive. Thank you.

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Matt Royce: Okay, Thank you.

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Matt Royce: We have one more speaker. So anybody else who has not spoken wants to speak. Raise your hand.

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Matt Royce: How are you, Barry?

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Matt Royce: Uh!

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Matt Royce: Lisa sensed it.

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Matt Royce: Oh, wait! I I think you already spoke

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Lisa Sundstedt: I I I didn't. I didn't put my hand up. I I

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Matt Royce: Okay. Sorry I didn't be your hand. It was. Lord, no, i'm sorry. I guess I did. I didn't realize it by the

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Matt Royce: Okay. Sorry you already spoke.

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Matt Royce: Okay, I think that is all the public comment. I see

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Matt Royce: um.

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Matt Royce: So with that, I guess I will open it back up to the committee.

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barrycassilly: What are we supposed to say?

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Matt Royce: I think Andrew had some.

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Andrew Mika: I appreciate everyone's commentary.

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Andrew Mika: It answers a lot of my questions,

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Andrew Mika: so I don't I I was wondering, can we? Can we get the motions restated? As i'm trying to make,

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Andrew Mika: trying to think through everything that was said,

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Matt Royce: I think that'd be very helpful. I don't, maybe want to just read them.

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barrycassilly: Well, there. I'm reading the agenda, and I don't think

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barrycassilly: like there's I. We didn't

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Andrew Mika: follow exactly what's written on the agenda. So i'm

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Andrew Mika: kind of trying to

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barrycassilly: that together. I want to hear the motion, too. But, like I had a more general question.

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barrycassilly: like

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barrycassilly: I know that the the

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barrycassilly: pick of all people try to like get new courts. Ah, I don't. I really don't understand why this is a zero sum game. I don't understand why the pick of all people are like fighting with the paddle. Ah, tennis people for these courts.

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barrycassilly: Oh, maybe maybe I can share it some light on it, you know you don't have to answer again,

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barrycassilly: because you're going to go through like a whole list of things, and what i'm going to say all the time. Well, i'm going to say that, like the pick of all people, tried to get a bunch of courts over at Pmr Park,

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barrycassilly: and, like they were not allowed to do it. It was just something that had to do with the East Fitness Association. I just don't see why, like

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barrycassilly: we can't like have like a bunch of pickleball parts like someplace, and then, like we don't have this conflict with the pick of all people trying to like like elbow in on the peloton's. People's place.

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lauren siegel: Well, I think that would be supported by everybody if we could create an environment where everybody has their own courts. I don't see any issues anyone would have with it.

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barrycassilly: So it's not clear to me that that's you know a possible solution.

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barrycassilly: Well, but like with the paddle tennis people like

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barrycassilly: get behind the pickle ball people having more courts somewhere else.

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barrycassilly: Would they help with that?

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lauren siegel: I see. I mean, I don't want to speak for anybody you know I

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barrycassilly: you are a please. I I am a member of the title Tennis community I've been playing for five years, you know. I just want to make sure that who knows that that's my position here. But, as I understand it, you know, there there has been a lot of um back and forth and compromise the people of all people have time on the courts. And then, just recently, the Pickle Ball people, through their very first tournament on the Paddle tennis courts. We, the

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barrycassilly: of my question That wasn't my question.

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lauren siegel: But i'm trying to give you a little bit of a background.

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barrycassilly: No No, but i'm saying i'm saying, let me finish, please, I'm suggesting. If we could have separate courts and certifications, I think everybody would be happy.

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corinne Baginski: Okay, by a separate location, though.

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corinne Baginski: Well, they retrieve a Webinar ports are really built for paddle tenants. Can there be another like I'm sure there's there's fees for some pick a wall.

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corinne Baginski: No, I mean on top of those eleven

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barrycassilly: you mean incrementally they would be. Are you saying parking on the same courts, Corinne?

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corinne Baginski: Not on the same points I get. So we keep the eleven. So the how people are happy with

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corinne Baginski: with that, And then we help the pickleball people.

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barrycassilly: We have more courts

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barrycassilly: right, Karen.

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corinne Baginski: I don't know

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barrycassilly: Well, either we have only like, however, many chords, and everybody fights over them, or we have more courts.

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corinne Baginski: Yeah, we have more courts. That's more.

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barrycassilly: Yes,

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barrycassilly: how hard. Is that?

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corinne Baginski: Yeah.

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corinne Baginski: Well, I don't understand why I mean, I think we should give a chance to pickle people to be able to practice their sport in Venice, I mean, if they want to do so now.

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barrycassilly: I know they tried to get like dedicated pickleball courts at Penmar Park, and

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barrycassilly: they were not allowed to do it. Something had to do with the then East Venice people like you know. They don't like anything

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corinne Baginski: or the noise well, but there's also there are two transports over a pen that are not used. They have been uh, there's no there's they're waiting for funding to do anything with them, So there's no there's there's there's no nothing They're just sitting there unmused or or there's like tons of like dirt and grass. People can build like whatever. But like the path, the like. These fence people stop the pick of all people

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barrycassilly: having courts over there. So like you,

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barrycassilly: i'm sort of suggesting if the powerball people like supported, and we supported the like pick of all people getting more courts in the like Panmar Park area, like everybody would win um, and I don't know there'd be no conflict, and i'll be happy.

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barrycassilly: I can't imagine anyone would have a problem with more resources, more courts, and if

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lauren siegel: so, I don't The only issue I see is where and who pays for it. But

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barrycassilly: no, what can we be?

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barrycassilly: We'll all we can find. The money There's There's like a billion dollars in the city of Los Angeles, going towards nothing, so we can find the money. But if if there's that like, I don't know, like impetus to like everybody. Help everybody. I think I would say, Okay, Don't. Think of all people on these courts because you all think they're like, really like,

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barrycassilly: you know, essential

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barrycassilly: as long as the pick of all people get courts somewhere else.

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Larry Nagler: Can I, uh speak for a moment

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barrycassilly: who is talking?

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Matt Royce: This is Larry, and this is Larry Naylor Does business board comment. I'm sorry I apologize. No, you're not doing anything wrong. Well, well, Barry, you're asking a question about whether the paddle community would support a pickleball um place somewhere else. So why don't we ask Larry what he would.

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Matt Royce: Okay, let's last.

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Matt Royce: Yeah, thank you, Matt. Matt. Me. You're running the meeting man.

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Yeah, I said, Go ahead, Larry.

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barrycassilly: Okay, Thank you.

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Larry Nagler: Thank you. Um, I I

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Larry Nagler: There's no doubt in my mind

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lauren siegel: that the paddle Tennis community would support the construction of pickleball courts on Penmar, or any other location where you can find the land and the money.

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Larry Nagler: The problem, I think is if you if

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barrycassilly: connect A to B as a condition of a No, I'm not suggesting that. Sorry. So I wanted to. One hundred percent. I want one hundred percent endorse what you said,

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Larry Nagler: and I think you are the individual that indicated that the budget There's a lot of capital in the budget for this, and the question is the will, and I I think I speak on behalf of the panel tennis community when I tell you that

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barrycassilly: will support that project for you. It's okay. It's great for us, because it takes the pressure off of our courts,

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barrycassilly: and it adds the paddle. You know, who knows? Some of the paddle tennis players may want to go and and use the pickleball courts if they're available. Let's not get into that. But I hear you. I think it's awesome. So i'm like saying I would like like introduce emotion like we like the the like. Ah, the land use planning committee support emotion to like help. The pick of all people get more

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barrycassilly: courts in the Pemmon Park area

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or ever

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barrycassilly: okay. But, Barry, we also have to address motions that are in front of us already. Another one, I think that's great. But let's focus on what is right in front of us Here I I support that with the condition, in the meantime, that you that there's some temporary

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barrycassilly: time and place for Pickwall people to play as that's being constructed only with the condition that that's moving forward. I think that's going to be a tough one.

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barrycassilly: Yeah, Well, like I hear both sides of this. There's an inclusive side to this absolutely, and that and let's be clear like

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Andrew Mika: what something was once intended for doesn't necessarily mean that it needs to continue to be intended for that. Now, as times change. That's the

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barrycassilly: I. Honestly,

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barrycassilly: I understand that. But I think that like,

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Andrew Mika: and I really understand what the paddle all the paddle community plates. There's A.

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Andrew Mika: Ah, that there's there's we know, and you know better than almost anybody, Mary, that it takes eons to get anything up Los Angeles. So you need a temporary solution and potentially a that more permanent solution coinciding here.

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Matt Royce: You're letting this thing get way off. Course it's a brown act violation. Be discussing items that are potentially going to be on future agendas. You have two motions on.

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Matt Royce: I'll be you one of them.

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Matt Royce: I'm not worried about that. We're having a conversation to make mining a lot of people to the motions. But chats this craft

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Matt Royce: we're talking about the original agenda.

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Matt Royce: Your comments know that, Jim. But I find the comments interesting. So i'm going to allow you to have the discussion. But you can't start talking about writing motions that you did. This thing was not.

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Matt Royce: Yeah, i'm. Not. So

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Matt Royce: hang on. Let's just finish Matt without having. No, I'm really sorry.

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Matt Royce: Yep. I agree with your point that uh

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Matt Royce: so we can't introduce new motions right now, so someone could from the pickleball community could propose some new courts somewhere right and then come back to us.

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Matt Royce: Yeah, I don't it's not our job to invent a project for them.

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lauren siegel: I'm not proposing a new motion. Or am I talking about a potential future? I'm talking about a condition in which i'm proving this motion on

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barrycassilly: what is the what is the condition

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Andrew Mika: it's?

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Andrew Mika: The condition is that there are in some shape,

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Andrew Mika: form, or manner,

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Andrew Mika: a

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Andrew Mika: forward moving

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Andrew Mika: project to put in

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Andrew Mika: permanent pick up all courts.

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01:11:19.200 --> 01:11:26.170
barrycassilly: Yes, from the same general, the Senate vicinity battle chords,

545
01:11:26.420 --> 01:11:33.079
Andrew Mika: because it would be ridiculous to put these elsewhere like you, you should make it work for everybody.

546
01:11:33.830 --> 01:11:40.070
Andrew Mika: That is the condition of the current motion I am proposing

547
01:11:40.460 --> 01:11:48.530
Andrew Mika: rather than a new motion. So we don't violate a law that by pretty much everybody throughout the California legislation

548
01:11:48.540 --> 01:11:50.730
barrycassilly: it's stuff. Andrew. It's you a question.

549
01:11:50.740 --> 01:11:59.559
barrycassilly: You are you saying that, like as a condition of supporting the

550
01:11:59.670 --> 01:12:14.529
barrycassilly: Pelton peoples like asking for exclusive use of these specific courts. That there be some I don't know, like effort

551
01:12:14.540 --> 01:12:28.459
barrycassilly: to a commitment by everybody to support establishing other locations. Um! So that the pick of all people um are also happy.

552
01:12:30.680 --> 01:12:36.299
Andrew Mika: Yes, and in the interim, while those are being

553
01:12:36.970 --> 01:12:40.169
Andrew Mika: produced. Let's call it saying the word bill.

554
01:12:40.180 --> 01:12:42.719
barrycassilly: Yes. Oh, I'm produced

555
01:12:42.980 --> 01:12:45.810
Andrew Mika: the pick of all people

556
01:12:47.020 --> 01:12:48.830
Andrew Mika: have a

557
01:12:49.700 --> 01:12:58.050
barrycassilly: certain days and times an area

558
01:12:59.040 --> 01:13:03.290
Andrew Mika: you can. I always love your commentary, as you know.

559
01:13:03.300 --> 01:13:05.379
barrycassilly: Alright. It's why you?

560
01:13:05.410 --> 01:13:07.190
Andrew Mika: Why are you laughing? You can do this a lot.

561
01:13:07.200 --> 01:13:18.639
barrycassilly: Because because that's the and that's the rub like the like, the like paddle. I don't even know what these games are, but the paddle people

562
01:13:18.650 --> 01:13:40.849
barrycassilly: um don't want. They're They're threatened by the pickleball people being on their courts because they're worried that the pick of all people will like not respect boundaries, and will like um, because they the pick of all people don't have enough place to play will like gradually like infringe upon the paddle places and right.

563
01:13:40.860 --> 01:13:44.329
Andrew Mika: I'm not gonna I I don't want to say that anybody

564
01:13:44.740 --> 01:13:54.309
Andrew Mika: scared or upset with anybody else like I'm not going to make any of those implications. My my point is simply that

565
01:13:54.640 --> 01:13:57.800
Andrew Mika: that, and I understand that the the

566
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Andrew Mika: one I understand, the power community's concern and the pick of all community's concerns. But more importantly are the residents that live there, and their issues with the notice, because that's not fair to your home. So,

567
01:14:12.240 --> 01:14:20.860
barrycassilly: mind you, the boardwalk gets very loud at certain hours, in which case a sound of a whiffle ball, I think, is

568
01:14:21.750 --> 01:14:37.289
barrycassilly: would be drowned out by

569
01:14:37.300 --> 01:14:47.690
Matt Royce: wait. No, you don't get to step in yet. I get to respond to Andrew. Um guys are taking up all of the conversation. I'll let you know Lauren

570
01:14:47.700 --> 01:14:49.559
corinne Baginski: is enjoying this,

571
01:14:49.660 --> 01:15:00.189
Matt Royce: So the idea that the whiffle ball noise won't be heard because it's drowned out by the noise and chaos in Venice is not true.

572
01:15:00.200 --> 01:15:19.099
lauren siegel: You can hear that dinking sound for very long distances, and it's a tunnel there so that sound travels far, and I think it was Katrina who was talking about being a resident. Practically feels like it's right in her backyard as it is, and it's a whole. There's a whole lot of residential people living on ocean front walls.

573
01:15:19.110 --> 01:15:20.620
barrycassilly: So, my God!

574
01:15:20.680 --> 01:15:23.589
barrycassilly: What i'm, Laura, i'm on your side.

575
01:15:23.600 --> 01:15:25.590
lauren siegel: I don't. I'm not choosing sides, but i'm

576
01:15:25.600 --> 01:15:27.590
barrycassilly: It's just going to add a layer of

577
01:15:27.600 --> 01:15:34.889
barrycassilly: I thought it really is, for this argument about like the neighbors on ocean front walk are inconvenienced by

578
01:15:34.900 --> 01:15:37.909
barrycassilly: whatever sound when it's like daylight.

579
01:15:37.940 --> 01:15:41.500
Matt Royce: I mean if you live on ocean.

580
01:15:41.510 --> 01:15:47.890
Matt Royce: But I think we're kind of all talking in circles and talking over each other. I don't know if we're no kidding. That's the point.

581
01:15:47.900 --> 01:15:53.910
Matt Royce: I'm gonna just give a couple thought because I missed the last me, but I I think I've got the idea. But

582
01:15:54.120 --> 01:15:56.319
Matt Royce: couple of points I want to make is

583
01:15:56.350 --> 01:15:58.920
Matt Royce: these motions. Um,

584
01:15:59.140 --> 01:16:11.540
Matt Royce: I just feel like like there, he said, it's It's already not legal, apparently, to use them for pickle ball, so I don't I don't really get the point of the motions couldn't. We just not pass the motion there. It's still,

585
01:16:11.550 --> 01:16:21.590
Matt Royce: technically, because they're already using them. Matthew. They use them twice, and they now have internal.

586
01:16:21.600 --> 01:16:25.589
Matt Royce: I I don't think our discussing emotion is going to change.

587
01:16:25.600 --> 01:16:26.740
barrycassilly: We did

588
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barrycassilly: like what I thought. We're talking about the historical nature of these we are, and i'm willing to say, like like no pickable, and like under conditions, and like honestly, there's a disagreement.

589
01:16:41.210 --> 01:16:44.509
barrycassilly: Anders wants to say there are conditions.

590
01:16:44.520 --> 01:16:46.489
Matt Royce: Well, my other point.

591
01:16:46.500 --> 01:16:57.490
Matt Royce: My other point is that I feel like the pickleball folks should organize around emotion that they bring instead of us inventing it for them right now.

592
01:16:57.500 --> 01:17:08.090
Matt Royce: Okay. So we're going to steal people, they should bring a proposal to either share a temporary share or to unmute basis and or build new courts in the future.

593
01:17:08.100 --> 01:17:11.430
barrycassilly: Okay, on that basis. No. Pick a ball on these cards,

594
01:17:11.440 --> 01:17:16.620
Matt Royce: I think at the moment no pick a ball, because they don't have expressed permission to

595
01:17:17.580 --> 01:17:34.379
Matt Royce: Ah, but they should propose. Um! How how they and and it will make people like me more comfortable if the like. Paddle tennis. People would say, We will like support you tomorrow against the East Venice people, or whoever. And so you can't have these courts

596
01:17:36.690 --> 01:17:42.790
Matt Royce: right? That is not. The situation is like. If they go to Penmar now they're going to make some tennis players matters. You know

597
01:17:42.800 --> 01:17:56.690
Matt Royce: they're not. They're not. They have a giant golf course with like half the space between. Some of the I play golf between Some of the like holes in the street are not used. They can look like these pick of all parts there,

598
01:17:56.700 --> 01:18:05.140
Matt Royce: so The I only point is wherever they want to do the pickle ball, If it's on Venice or a Pmr. They should make an official proposal of motion, though

599
01:18:05.250 --> 01:18:07.059
Matt Royce: you can look at.

600
01:18:08.020 --> 01:18:10.369
Matt Royce: But I I don't think we have that right now.

601
01:18:11.020 --> 01:18:12.340
barrycassilly: No, we don't

602
01:18:13.550 --> 01:18:15.630
Matt Royce: so. So,

603
01:18:15.930 --> 01:18:19.390
Matt Royce: Mr. Chair, and how about getting voted by other questions in front of us

604
01:18:19.400 --> 01:18:21.760
Matt Royce: over here. I I feel like It's good.

605
01:18:21.770 --> 01:18:25.090
Matt Royce: Wait. Why are they interst right at all? If somebody wants to be emotion, you can't.

606
01:18:25.100 --> 01:18:26.689
barrycassilly: No, Andrews talking.

607
01:18:26.700 --> 01:18:33.310
Matt Royce: There's a question around. This committee has the authority

608
01:18:33.760 --> 01:18:37.169
Andrew Mika: to change a land use regulation

609
01:18:37.890 --> 01:18:41.389
Matt Royce: so like the Los Angeles. We don't have authority to do anything.

610
01:18:43.500 --> 01:18:50.789
Matt Royce: Oh, man, come on. We' to write letters to people

611
01:18:51.050 --> 01:18:54.310
lauren siegel: where we want it Doesn't. Really

612
01:18:55.350 --> 01:18:56.680
Andrew Mika: it didn't matter

613
01:18:57.180 --> 01:19:00.889
Matt Royce: currently written in law. These are the

614
01:19:00.980 --> 01:19:12.210
Matt Royce: yeah you're agreeing with that. We need a motion to reiterate that you can't use it for people.

615
01:19:15.240 --> 01:19:24.789
lauren siegel: We want to ask Larry how he wants to proceed after hearing all of our conversations, if he'd like us to vote on anything I mean, who's deciding here?

616
01:19:24.800 --> 01:19:28.089
Matt Royce: Well, Larry's going to say he wants the about his motion. I'm sure.

617
01:19:28.100 --> 01:19:28.790
Matt Royce: Well,

618
01:19:28.800 --> 01:19:32.689
barrycassilly: let let me hand her out. We read the motion, so we know we're voting on

619
01:19:32.700 --> 01:19:36.239
lauren siegel: Matt. The law states it. I don't even even regret it anymore.

620
01:19:37.960 --> 01:19:57.590
Larry Nagler: Well, I would call for the motion to to be made and and to be voted on, and you you know The reason why I had to do it in the first place, is because the thing has become so disruptive with pickleballers coming on. If we don't have some sort of a statement somewhere.

621
01:19:57.600 --> 01:20:02.620
Larry Nagler: We're befuddled. So that's why I've asked That's why I call for the motions.

622
01:20:02.630 --> 01:20:04.799
lauren siegel: Okay, I'd like to make a motion.

623
01:20:05.110 --> 01:20:08.389
barrycassilly: I i'd like to,

624
01:20:08.400 --> 01:20:11.190
barrycassilly: Matt. He was here. Matt,

625
01:20:11.200 --> 01:20:13.290
barrycassilly: What's that? Matt's a chair.

626
01:20:13.300 --> 01:20:23.340
Matt Royce: Yeah, yeah, go ahead, Lauren. He asked for someone to make a motion. So to do that. I i'd like to make a motion regarding Pickle Ball Number two, I don't know. Do I need to read the whole thing out?

627
01:20:24.360 --> 01:20:26.800
Matt Royce: Uh, Are you

628
01:20:26.810 --> 01:20:28.890
Matt Royce: Are you just reiterating the motion? That's

629
01:20:28.900 --> 01:20:31.189
Matt Royce: yes, yeah, you're not modifying it.

630
01:20:31.200 --> 01:20:32.160
lauren siegel: No,

631
01:20:32.170 --> 01:20:33.160
Matt Royce: um.

632
01:20:35.190 --> 01:20:36.809
Matt Royce: The The whole thing out.

633
01:20:36.820 --> 01:20:38.989
barrycassilly: Okay? Fine.

634
01:20:39.000 --> 01:20:40.690
Matt Royce: I think that you read it before

635
01:20:41.730 --> 01:20:43.340
Matt Royce: um.

636
01:20:44.700 --> 01:20:47.889
Matt Royce: Anybody want to second that motion.

637
01:20:47.900 --> 01:20:54.090
Matt Royce: I guess it's Larry's original. There's two motions isn't that correct?

638
01:20:54.100 --> 01:20:57.789
Matt Royce: But I was talking about motion number two,

639
01:20:57.800 --> 01:20:59.290
Matt Royce: so only motion Number two.

640
01:20:59.300 --> 01:21:00.090
lauren siegel: Yes.

641
01:21:00.100 --> 01:21:01.510
Matt Royce: Got it.

642
01:21:05.330 --> 01:21:09.490
Matt Royce: Does anybody want to second or in's? My second Lawrence motion?

643
01:21:11.070 --> 01:21:12.160
Matt Royce: Okay,

644
01:21:15.460 --> 01:21:17.000
Matt Royce: Um,

645
01:21:17.750 --> 01:21:24.730
Matt Royce: Okay, we can. I think we've had enough. I feel like we had a comment, but it was like a last quick comment before we vote

646
01:21:28.050 --> 01:21:29.929
barrycassilly: renewed. What do you think?

647
01:21:30.070 --> 01:21:32.790
Matt Royce: Yeah, Anybody who hasn't?

648
01:21:32.800 --> 01:21:34.189
Mehrnoosh Mojallali: What do I think I?

649
01:21:34.200 --> 01:21:44.889
Mehrnoosh Mojallali: I know I'm always for having public communities get together and do what they're interested in.

650
01:21:44.900 --> 01:21:56.680
Mehrnoosh Mojallali: But I don't want to eliminate one service, and then get another one point, so I think that football should have sites and so on. I don't have an exact indication of it. But

651
01:21:56.850 --> 01:21:58.250
Mehrnoosh Mojallali: um!

652
01:21:58.480 --> 01:22:00.929
Mehrnoosh Mojallali: But they should have their own places

653
01:22:01.020 --> 01:22:02.129
Mehrnoosh Mojallali: for sure,

654
01:22:02.300 --> 01:22:05.190
Mehrnoosh Mojallali: and they should be accommodated for their needs.

655
01:22:05.200 --> 01:22:06.250
Yeah, Cool.

656
01:22:08.020 --> 01:22:14.590
Matt Royce: Okay. What kind of score should stay as they are so they can proceed. Go forward.

657
01:22:14.770 --> 01:22:29.569
barrycassilly: Pinmore really needs to be used as well, too. It's it's a big place. We can be accommodated for a certain hours. If they send some new regulations, and they can come at this time without time. We might not disrupt other

658
01:22:29.950 --> 01:22:31.240
Mehrnoosh Mojallali: um

659
01:22:31.500 --> 01:22:33.450
Mehrnoosh Mojallali: community action Staff

660
01:22:34.550 --> 01:22:37.290
lauren siegel: the Matthew. Can we vote on it. The motion

661
01:22:37.300 --> 01:22:38.380
Matt Royce: Yes,

662
01:22:38.390 --> 01:22:40.529
Matt Royce: uh So

663
01:22:40.590 --> 01:22:43.310
Matt Royce: Lauren real call, though.

664
01:22:43.320 --> 01:22:44.280
Matt Royce: Yes,

665
01:22:45.610 --> 01:22:49.290
Matt Royce: Um, Barry. Yes.

666
01:22:51.140 --> 01:22:52.489
Matt Royce: Okay. My niche.

667
01:22:52.500 --> 01:22:53.480
Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Yes,

668
01:22:55.110 --> 01:22:56.540
Matt Royce: and Andrew

669
01:23:01.470 --> 01:23:09.329
barrycassilly: like four different options. Here it's yes or no. There's two options

670
01:23:09.510 --> 01:23:12.990
Matt Royce: that's now our abstain.

671
01:23:13.000 --> 01:23:17.280
barrycassilly: Well, that's three. I don't think I can upstate. We don't have

672
01:23:17.730 --> 01:23:21.190
Matt Royce: you could it upstate Yeah, Forum. Yeah, you could still abstain if you want.

673
01:23:21.200 --> 01:23:24.990
barrycassilly: Yeah, in the law like it did it? This is

674
01:23:25.000 --> 01:23:28.119
barrycassilly: yeah, you got it. You're so difficult.

675
01:23:28.850 --> 01:23:31.189
Andrew Mika: Are you fucking, kidding.

676
01:23:31.200 --> 01:23:32.099
barrycassilly: Yes.

677
01:23:33.190 --> 01:23:36.889
Matt Royce: Language. This is a family meeting. Answer:

678
01:23:38.300 --> 01:23:40.989
Matt Royce: What did you say? What was your vote after? If I didn't hear you?

679
01:23:41.000 --> 01:23:42.240
Andrew Mika: That's

680
01:23:42.250 --> 01:23:43.219
Matt Royce: yes, okay.

681
01:23:45.130 --> 01:23:46.790
Matt Royce: Okay, Karen.

682
01:23:46.800 --> 01:23:47.809
corinne Baginski: Yes,

683
01:23:50.110 --> 01:23:52.780
barrycassilly: uh, okay, Jeff.

684
01:23:52.840 --> 01:23:54.080
Jeff: Yes,

685
01:23:54.420 --> 01:23:55.710
thank you, dear.

686
01:23:56.270 --> 01:24:00.459
barrycassilly: What does he look?

687
01:24:01.620 --> 01:24:14.890
Matt Royce: I'll abstain just because I wasn't at the last meeting. Oh, come on, I will vote that the violation is occurring when you speak during the

688
01:24:14.900 --> 01:24:17.689
jim murez: the violation of State law. What do you want me to say, Barry?

689
01:24:17.700 --> 01:24:18.789
barrycassilly: Okay, I'll send them.

690
01:24:18.800 --> 01:24:25.010
Matt Royce: I I average back to all my like that's.

691
01:24:26.030 --> 01:24:29.619
Matt Royce: Does anybody want to entertain motion? Number one? I feel like we should

692
01:24:30.550 --> 01:24:32.389
Matt Royce: pass over that one, but

693
01:24:32.400 --> 01:24:34.649
barrycassilly: it's a number one for Larry

694
01:24:35.310 --> 01:24:36.420
lauren siegel: to

695
01:24:37.170 --> 01:24:39.029
lauren siegel: i'm sorry, Andrew, What was that?

696
01:24:39.040 --> 01:24:43.390
Andrew Mika: I have a question for Larry regarding motion Number one i'm trying to understand it.

697
01:24:43.400 --> 01:24:44.290
Matt Royce: Oh, go on

698
01:24:44.300 --> 01:24:45.830
Matt Royce: of him.

699
01:24:46.900 --> 01:24:48.379
Matt Royce: Let me have you there?

700
01:24:48.490 --> 01:24:49.900
Shirk:

701
01:24:50.130 --> 01:24:51.770
Larry Nagler: Okay. I'm. Here,

702
01:24:51.780 --> 01:25:03.590
Andrew Mika: Larry, why do you want another cook in the kitchen for this? Don't You just want to get a refence hopefully resurfaced and up and running, and not looking like a war zone.

703
01:25:03.600 --> 01:25:09.190
Larry Nagler: Yes, of course, of course, that's the ultimate goal. But let me let me say this.

704
01:25:09.710 --> 01:25:10.950
Larry Nagler: Um

705
01:25:11.280 --> 01:25:12.460
Larry Nagler: I

706
01:25:12.560 --> 01:25:29.179
Larry Nagler: you weren't here last time. I don't believe Andrew and and I. I indicated that I represent the court builder, and I checked with him as to the reasonable cost to build a fencing, and he said it should be between fifty and one hundred thousand For these eleven cords.

707
01:25:29.190 --> 01:25:33.920
Larry Nagler: The contract is for five hundred thousand or six hundred thousand. So

708
01:25:34.180 --> 01:25:40.249
Larry Nagler: so what I did was I offered. I offered the city to

709
01:25:40.610 --> 01:25:56.119
Larry Nagler: canvas. My clients canvas people in the industry to try to come up with a much more reasonable price, and nobody would listen to me, and that's why I made this motion, and the second part of it is that

710
01:25:56.400 --> 01:26:06.000
Larry Nagler: because we are so connected to the paddle tennis community, we ask, and that's why I've I've prepared the motion. We asked that we'd be consulted

711
01:26:06.010 --> 01:26:08.289
Larry Nagler: as a group to give. Input

712
01:26:08.300 --> 01:26:15.219
Larry Nagler: what's happened is we've been ignored last week when you weren't here, everybody said, Well, they're going to try to help us

713
01:26:15.230 --> 01:26:16.389
Larry Nagler: get access.

714
01:26:16.400 --> 01:26:25.720
Larry Nagler: So that was the reason for the motion Number one. The motion regarding, you know, in effect the bidding. Let's say,

715
01:26:25.850 --> 01:26:28.819
Larry Nagler: and that's why I did it. You asked me, and that's the answer.

716
01:26:28.860 --> 01:26:48.429
lauren siegel: Yeah, okay, That's a that's incredibly helpful. Thank you. And Andrew, to give you a context. The current just refencing is now five hundred thousand, as Larry said, plus one hundred thousand, but also three months. So the first two weeks they worked on the courts. They took out all of the fence posts,

717
01:26:48.440 --> 01:26:50.790
lauren siegel: and then they sat. And it has been sitting

718
01:26:50.800 --> 01:27:10.259
barrycassilly: yeah, being done for over a week. So but on you guys, you're just You're You're you're You're distracting us. I think if they can have it. We're all gonna be upset about this. We're all gonna agree with you, but you ask for us to vote on only the panel. Tennis people that's all we

719
01:27:10.270 --> 01:27:14.270
Larry Nagler: i'm. I'm asking that you vote on on Motion Number one.

720
01:27:14.280 --> 01:27:16.870
barrycassilly: Yeah, i'll vote on this short.

721
01:27:16.880 --> 01:27:20.800
Matt Royce: That is that a motion uh Andrew?

722
01:27:21.250 --> 01:27:31.560
barrycassilly: I'm happy to make the motion guys. I'm happy to make the motion that we have a partnership between the paddle community and wrecks and parts.

723
01:27:32.210 --> 01:27:34.189
Matt Royce: I'll second that.

724
01:27:34.200 --> 01:27:41.739
Matt Royce: Okay. Oh, Lauren, you you moved? Yes, because I see no downside. You made the motion to as presented.

725
01:27:41.750 --> 01:27:44.709
Matt Royce: Yes, question or one. Okay,

726
01:27:45.220 --> 01:27:48.629
Matt Royce: Lauren. And that Andrew. Second: right?

727
01:27:49.050 --> 01:27:50.160
Andrew Mika: Yeah,

728
01:27:51.810 --> 01:27:57.349
Matt Royce: okay, Let's take a vote on that, and we take public comment.

729
01:27:58.850 --> 01:28:02.529
Matt Royce: We already take a public comment on everything. Not on this motion.

730
01:28:02.540 --> 01:28:05.210
Andrew Mika: Yeah, no, Jim's right. We need

731
01:28:07.690 --> 01:28:08.929
Matt Royce: well.

732
01:28:08.960 --> 01:28:10.960
Matt Royce: But this is on Item ten.

733
01:28:12.330 --> 01:28:14.410
Matt Royce: We took public comment on the item.

734
01:28:14.630 --> 01:28:16.200
barrycassilly: That's it.

735
01:28:16.320 --> 01:28:18.589
Matt Royce: I don't want to be here. You guys

736
01:28:19.530 --> 01:28:23.399
Matt Royce: take public comment. Can we go, please?

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Matt Royce: I don't. I don't feel like we're violating anything.

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barrycassilly: I have one more question for Larry.

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Andrew Mika: Larry will us approving Motion number one. Make this process go faster for you all

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hopefully.

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lauren siegel: Sorry you're muted.

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Matt Royce: You can unmute yourself there,

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Larry Nagler: I think realistically. Okay. I've been signed. I did.

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Larry Nagler: I I forget. I forget your question. Forgive me.

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Larry Nagler: Well, I I don't like bureaucracy or red tape, so whatever they're called, so my question is, well, us approving this motion make this reservicing potentially. And all these improvements go faster for you, or is it going to slow down the process?

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Larry Nagler: It's a very good question, and i'll answer it this way, as of this minute. The only contract that we are aware of that's been led is the refencing.

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Larry Nagler: But we've been told they're going to have to resurface the courts.

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Larry Nagler: So I contacted my client, who builds paddle courts and pickleball courts, and he told me that the cost to resurface these courts should be in the neighborhood of one hundred thousand dollars, so I offered to try to raise money privately to do it,

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Larry Nagler: to get contractors to do it, and I think If they talk to us, it will. It should move faster.

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Larry Nagler: But

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who knows?

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Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Let's watch it.

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barrycassilly: But come on.

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barrycassilly: Okay, I I I Um.

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Matt Royce: Okay. One motion for the number one motion regarding improvements. I don't want to read through it all, but we kind of have a sense that we want to create a partnership between ah the community and reckon Parks.

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Matt Royce: Let's take a vote all right, Lauren.

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lauren siegel: Yes,

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Matt Royce: yes, very yes,

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Mehrnoosh Mojallali: yes,

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Matt Royce: okay. Andrew.

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Andrew Mika: Yes,

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Matt Royce: Um

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Matt Royce: Karen. Yes,

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Matt Royce: Jeff. Yes,

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Matt Royce: Um,

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Matt Royce: We don't like this. Anybody. Yeah, you for me? I'll say yes on this one.

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Matt Royce: Okay,

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lauren siegel: it's very.

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Matt Royce: There is.

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Matt Royce: Uh meeting. Is it?

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barrycassilly: What meaning is what?

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Matt Royce: Adjourned.

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Matt Royce: Whoa!

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Matt Royce: We accomplished something.

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Matt Royce: They're like how those people got their stuff. I feel very good about that.

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Larry Nagler: That's right.

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Matt Royce: Okay, Thank you all. So good night, bye, bye,

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Matt Royce: bye,