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james murez: we're hosting one half of one second.

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james murez: attendees you're not there yet.

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james murez: vicki are you there vicki Hello.

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james murez: yeah hold on vicki one more second I got to.

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james murez: promote Mattel to panelist.

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james murez: and make him, Chair of his meeting here.

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james murez: make you host.

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james murez: There we go okay Miguel your host you can do with the meeting as you choose.

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james murez: The Kelly you gotta unmute.

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Michael Jensen: There you go Thank you.

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james murez: and your camera Okay, so you know how to share how to change the share screen setting.

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james murez: yep okay um.

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james murez: Alright, and then you can make whoever you want to have be co host co host call me if something comes up, you need help.

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Michael Jensen: I will thank you.

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james murez: All right, bye.

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Michael Jensen: Hello.

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Michael Jensen: Alright, so we have and that's Jeff.

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Michael Jensen: Good evening everyone.

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Michael Jensen: I think i've got everybody.

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Michael Jensen: Now um, let me just share my screen.

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Michael Jensen: OK.

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Michael Jensen: I will call the meeting to order actual money give it a few more minutes here i'm just finishing something on.

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lauren siegel: ask a question, while we're.

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Michael Jensen: Waiting sure yeah.

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lauren siegel: So I was contacted out one of our one of my people on a de minimis case to ask how it went at the dnc I went on the dnc website check the agenda and the Minutes and it's there was no evidence of how they voted on things so is there.

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Michael Jensen: may have.

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Michael Jensen: It may have gone on consent.

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lauren siegel: Consent voted on.

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Michael Jensen: One well the consent doesn't get voted on, if something is not removed from consent it passes.

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Michael Jensen: Okay, that it passes.

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Michael Jensen: unanimously.

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lauren siegel: The feedback loop once they allow it to go through, how do we get back to our people and let them know where it stands.

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Michael Jensen: let's shoot me an email, on the case number can we, I just want to i'll start the meeting in a minute, but I don't want to get into like cases and stuff like that, yet without the meeting getting started.

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Michael Jensen: So it's 913.

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Michael Jensen: i'm going to call the meeting to order, where we can actually at the end of this we can talk about it lauren if you want.

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Michael Jensen: I just want to get through the the case that we have in assignments.

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Michael Jensen: Can everyone see the agenda up.

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corinne Baginski: Yes, yeah.

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Michael Jensen: Okay cool, so let me just.

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Michael Jensen: call a meeting to order, it is 913 roll call her in here.

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Michael Jensen: Very.

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corinne Baginski: he's on mute.

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lauren siegel: yeah I saw him from his phone, I think.

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Michael Jensen: Barry.

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Mehrnoosh: is coming.

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barry Cassilly: here.

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barry Cassilly: are very.

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barry Cassilly: You know, leave me unmuted.

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barry Cassilly: Did you all hear me.

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Michael Jensen: Yes, yeah.

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Michael Jensen: Thank you very.

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Michael Jensen: got Andrew I don't.

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Michael Jensen: see him lauren.

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Michael Jensen: matt Royce.

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Matthew Royce: yeah here.

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Michael Jensen: Are new.

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Michael Jensen: And i'm here and Jeff Martin yep.

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Michael Jensen: Right.

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Michael Jensen: Moving on Approval of the Minutes from June 30 can I get a motion and a second.

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lauren siegel: i'll motion.

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barry Cassilly: All second there's a berry.

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Michael Jensen: And roll call curren.

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Michael Jensen: Yes, very.

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Michael Jensen: lauren.

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Matthew Royce: Yes.

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Mehrnoosh: Yes.

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Michael Jensen: I will vote yes Jeff.

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Michael Jensen: Yes, alright so 700 motion carries declaration of conflicts of interest or.

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Michael Jensen: Ex parte communication of your.

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Michael Jensen: Does anyone have any conflicts or declarations to make.

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lauren siegel: No.

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barry Cassilly: No.

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Michael Jensen: Okay general public comment for items, not on the agenda if anyone in the audience has would like to make a comment for something that is not on tonight's agenda, please raise your hand i'll give it about 15 seconds, and I will call on you in the order that you come up.

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barry Cassilly: Take surface roads.

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Michael Jensen: Going once Barry I think you're muted.

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barry Cassilly: i'll just mute.

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Michael Jensen: Okay i'm.

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Michael Jensen: Going twice.

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Michael Jensen: Going three times not seeing any hands.

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Michael Jensen: Moving on to Item number.

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Michael Jensen: Okay, Robin.

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Michael Jensen: Yes, Robin.

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robin murez: hi sorry I just tuned in so is this public comment.

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Michael Jensen: It is public comment for items, not on the agenda.

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robin murez: So i'm wondering if.

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robin murez: You can tell me somebody can tell me what's the.

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robin murez: The height, that is permitted for side ventures in the canal is that someplace in the code that I could look it up, or you know off the top your head.

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Michael Jensen: Somewhere someone might know it off the top I don't know it off the top of my head and I don't know whether it's in the specific plan or it's in the La MC.

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robin murez: But.

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Michael Jensen: I can you look to the specific client yeah not all height fence heights or for every sub area are in there, so it may revert to the municipal code height.

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Michael Jensen: Anyone happened to know that answer.

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Matthew Royce: I don't know if it's specific to the canals but i'm pretty sure it's in the normal zoning code.

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Matthew Royce: Probably.

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Matthew Royce: 42 inches but what I would look it up.

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robin murez: Yes.

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lauren siegel: I think she has to the side.

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lauren siegel: I thought it was six feet.

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robin murez: So the municipal plan is that a link that you have on your page to page is really good with having like.

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robin murez: We.

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Michael Jensen: don't know if there's a link to the municipal code, but if you Google Los Angeles municipal code.

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Michael Jensen: You can and, in fact, if you Google Los Angeles municipal code and side yard fence height, you may actually when the code section.

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robin murez: Okay, thank you.

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robin murez: and welcome to this is going to be a project coming to you, that is just outrageous it's going to be.

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Michael Jensen: proposed for next Jordan okay well thanks Robin.

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Michael Jensen: All right, closing public comments.

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Michael Jensen: Item number seven so we did have actually also because we missed a meeting earlier this month we do actually have some cases in the pipeline, so if there's any volunteers for these can everyone see this clearly sorry small.

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Michael Jensen: We do have some cases to assign out i'm happy to take volunteers, otherwise I will assign them.

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Michael Jensen: As I see.

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Michael Jensen: sort of the caseload.

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lauren siegel: I will do that i'll do the portal in addition.

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Michael Jensen: Okay, and some of these may be de minimis I mean I, I can see there's like an ad you on here, and those are going to be in a de minimis cases, so they shouldn't involve a lot of work.

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Jeff: Three the same.

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Jeff: Are those two or three connected.

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Michael Jensen: They are not, they just happened to both the small lot subdivisions.

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Michael Jensen: i'll take that one okay.

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Michael Jensen: i'm sorry that was Jeff.

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Michael Jensen: Okay Jeff.

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Michael Jensen: Anyone 4668 indiana.

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Mehrnoosh: I can go for that.

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Michael Jensen: All right, thank you.

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corinne Baginski: I can see chloe.

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corinne Baginski: it's Korean.

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Michael Jensen: going to.

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Michael Jensen: 516 boccaccio.

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lauren siegel: i'll do that too it's another ad you happy to do it.

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Michael Jensen: brooks 613 books.

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corinne Baginski: Oh.

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Matthew Royce: Okay, I haven't done one in a while well.

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Michael Jensen: i'm.

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Michael Jensen: Okay woodlawn.

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corinne Baginski: Get.

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corinne Baginski: On the radio.

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Michael Jensen: All right, Thank you everyone for volunteering.

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Michael Jensen: We actually don't have any de minimis cases on there so we're going to nothing to vote on on on eight.

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Michael Jensen: And we only have one case tonight it's 3705 esplanade.

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Michael Jensen: And I think I saw the.

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Michael Jensen: Here we go.

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Michael Jensen: Let me just.

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Michael Jensen: panelist.

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Michael Jensen: Member or Sean.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: here.

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Michael Jensen: john do you guys.

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Michael Jensen: Do you want me to stop sharing my screen, do you guys have a PowerPoint or do you want to show the plan.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: we'd love to we'd love to show our screen if that's okay we're just using the.

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Michael Jensen: No problem.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: And you see our.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: Our client on.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: On their Deborah Grigori is she in your list.

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Michael Jensen: i'm.

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Michael Jensen: Greg Garcia, yes, I do.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: Okay, good Okay, if you could give her just the ability to talk that would be great and she might want to chime in.

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Debora Gregory: So i'm sorry this is debbie Gregory I don't have a camera.

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Debora Gregory: Excuse me, but i'm on.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: I Deborah.

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Debora Gregory: I thank you, everyone.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: All right, we're gonna take these guys through the through the presentation here i'll share my screen.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: Okay hi everybody i'm Sean amber we're devers architects, we will try to keep this short and concise, we know you've seen the plans, but for members of the community that haven't will try to.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: make it as clear as possible we're on our own neighborhood Councils here in Glasgow Park, and so we really appreciate you guys.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: We know how life is in the neighborhood Council, so this is the project location, right here it's on a esplanade canal right here between galleon and fleet it's a two story home that deborah's owned.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: For quite a few years now, and she and her family live there, her kids getting close and close to adult age.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: They would like to take this House and make it a little bit bigger.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: Deborah is a is a nurse and has been, as you can imagine, very, very busy during the pandemic running a a family health business out of both her office and her house.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: And so they really would like to increase the floor area by adding a ton of study upstairs office space, as well as an extra bedroom and some rooftop deck space so that's that's what's being proposed.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: i'll move on to some drawings here, so we can get into this a little bit more.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: So this is the plot plan.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: And here, you can see the the proposal, so we have currently this House is 4200 roughly square feet we're talking about adding a 900 square foot addition.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: Behind the 30 foot height limit of 915.6 square feet, additionally, we will have a roof deck we're proposing a roof deck on the canal side that deck is approximately 1000 square feet essentially just stepped in from the facade.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: And that that roof deck will also even the railing will be under the 30 foot height limit from the.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: From the esplanade so that is the basics, in addition to this.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: Deborah is.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: Deborah has some mobility challenges and so an elevator is a really big part of this both just for the existing house of two stories, but even more so when we get to the third story So those are the.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: that's the basics of the project there, we will take you to the next and feel free to interrupt me if you're on the committee and you'd like to that's no problem.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: There is going to be a little bit of remodeling on the first floor we're opening up a wall and then we'll have to do some structural changes to hold the third level.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: So we have a new walls here in black will see that around a new kind of guests area here and utility space and around the elevator and a little bit in the kitchen the existing kitchen.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: above that second floor really pretty minimal changes here, other than we have to take the existing roof off to add the third floor, which is pretty major.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: The elevator here a new stair to the third floor here built in closet and when you go up from there.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: This is where you get into the meat of the project and so come up the stairs, you have the elevator exit here.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: into this lounge area with Deborah study here and the extra bedroom that is talking about here with the closet that's kind of walk through so this this can all function both is it's meant to function, both as an art space for her daughter.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: but also as a spare guest bedroom so we might do Murphy bed in there something like that.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: will go to the elevations and just want to demonstrate here for you, so this is the side elevations.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: And again, as you saw from the aerial view this House is right in between, you know many others and actually it was part of a I think a six home development.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: Where all six homes are very, very you know similar except for their color I think most of the people have tried to make them more unique by changing the colors over time, but.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: She really wants to go with a more modern more you know Venice feeling kind of house here and really update the facade so it looks you know, all in all, just more modern and a bit more fun.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: You can see here in the elevation this blue line is your setbacks from the canals and starting at 30 foot then going at a one to two slope up to the to the back of the site here where it maxes out at 38 feet and in the next elevation here, so this would be the two elevations.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: The short elevations that really the public sees most, and so this elevation with the garages on the bottom right is what you see from the alley side, and then the elevation on the left is what you see from the canal side.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: And the other side elevation you'll see here that this is your 60 foot for me enlarge a little for.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: For you 60 foot allowable height under 30 this is your to one slope area here in this is your allowable 38 foot height in this area, this little bit that's going over just solar panels, which are allowed as equipment to go past that height.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: The elevators cannot go past that height within the 60 foot limit but, once you get past the 60 foot line, you are able to do that for a elevator.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: The elevator and the other one that does point over here is the existing chimney this is existing chimney here, which we will keep in that zone.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: These are just sections through the building so here, you can see the elevator going up through the third floor, we will add some new skylights in the bathroom of her second level, as we do have to rebuild this whole floor plate here and then beyond that.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: Oh yeah you should I just like to point out too that you know all of the railings on the rooftop are set back in from the facade and you know, just as it is to keep it neighborly and make sure you're not peering straight down into people's side yards, even though it is quite tight there.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: This is the stair going up the third level.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: And you can see the railing it's a cable rail railing so it's nearly 90% open.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: These are the elevations, and so the look they're going for is really modern we Deborah really loves to collect art from.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: Both you know, national and local artists and we are seeking an artist, to help us with this facade.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: One of Deborah and her daughter's favorite colors is purple and they really would like that to come through in the House, and so this is, this is a.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: This mural is something we put together, but if anyone knows any great local artists, that would love to lend a hand that would be a great thing.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: And that's it and i'll leave it up to you guys, if you have me do you have anything to add before I.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: You know I think you pretty much covered it, I mean just in general we're not asking for any variances or anything special this all is within code and.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: Then a specific plan that's the plan exactly and we're just hoping to get your support yeah exactly is there anything you'd like to add Deborah before.

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Debora Gregory: And no just I you know I want to improve the neighborhood so everything is to it's not just me the prison neighborhood and i'm here forever, and this is my family home, so I really hope I have your support.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: Thank you.

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Michael Jensen: The next guys i'm gonna open it up to public comment and after that we'll get into the committee discussion great Thank you so.

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Michael Jensen: If anyone from the public would like to comment, we are on item nine a.

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Michael Jensen: Please raise your hands, and I will leave it open for about another 15 seconds, and then I will close public comment.

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Matthew Royce: imogen maybe I missed it but.

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Matthew Royce: Was there a reason this wasn't Demetris.

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Michael Jensen: Probably, why not.

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Michael Jensen: Is there any committee comment questions for the presenters.

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Michael Jensen: And alarm.

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lauren siegel: i'm just curious if you've held outreach to the neighborhood and community and what the feedback has been.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: Thanks learn yeah we we did not do a public meeting for this we instead worked with the direct neighbors, and so we have three letters of support that we submitted to.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: Current and from the immediate neighbors.

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corinne Baginski: And then you did change that sites that back right I couldn't see it on your screen.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: that's that's correct we had made a we had made an originally mistake and had a four foot six setback, we change that to four foot tend to get our 10% but.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: And that was that is updated on your on your website and with the planning.

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lauren siegel: Well i'm happy to hear that the neighborhood has bought into the new plan so that's great Thank you.

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Michael Jensen: i'll just I I just I uploaded those letters today.

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Michael Jensen: But we have all i'll.

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Michael Jensen: Just summarize them for the record.

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Michael Jensen: We have a letter from Jim shine Berg.

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Michael Jensen: Who is at 3710 esplanade is that across the street.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: The.

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Michael Jensen: gym may have another.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: gym and Jeff are North and South, and I don't exactly know where Mike is.

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Amber & Shawn Keltner - KeltnerCo Arch.: Deborah might.

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Michael Jensen: know, am I, so we have another email from Jeff Lee and Claire.

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Michael Jensen: Which is what two doors down.

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Michael Jensen: Mike Epstein.

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Michael Jensen: No address on there.

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Debora Gregory: If I can just comment Jeff is the the builder of my house, and I think there's seven of us that are exactly the same and he's literally.

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Debora Gregory: He shares my other side north of me and then Jim is south of me and then Mike is also a builder and he lives north of me up the canal just several houses toward the end so they all know.

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Michael Jensen: Thanks any other committee questions.

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Michael Jensen: If there are none, I would just ask that we have a somebody make a motion.

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corinne Baginski: make a motion to approve the project.

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Michael Jensen: was a you current.

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Michael Jensen: pull up do we have a second.

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Jeff: Second.

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Michael Jensen: All right, roll call votes are rin yes very.

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Michael Jensen: Come back to bury lauren.

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Michael Jensen: I will vote yes Barry.

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barry Cassilly: There is yes.

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barry Cassilly: Sorry, you guys.

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Michael Jensen: Motion carries.

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Michael Jensen: This will be on the August board meeting.

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Michael Jensen: And curren can you just update the staff report and finalize it.

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Michael Jensen: What tonight's vote and then, when you email that to me it will trigger me to put it on the outcome agenda.

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Debora Gregory: I really appreciate you guys.

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Debora Gregory: Thank you so much.

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lauren siegel: you're welcome have a good night.

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Michael Jensen: This is Council file 14 dash 036633 unlicensed commercial cannabis business activity padlock enforcement cease and desist this was tabled at our last meeting i'm hoping since then people had a chance to read the file or the motion further.

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Michael Jensen: So we can talk about and potentially vote on it.

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Michael Jensen: And someone is should be muted I think that's you Barry.

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Michael Jensen: No questions do we do we feel like we want to support this Council motion or not does anyone.

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corinne Baginski: And I have seen, because I have I haven't seen that at all, I was, I was on vacation when that came up.

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Michael Jensen: We can also push this I mean person is further if you guys want to more time to to read it.

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Michael Jensen: hold on a second, so we are on Item number 10 anyone has any public comments, please raise your hand.

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Michael Jensen: Okay, not seeing any public comments so committee comments do you want to push this should I assign this to a staff member to do some research on.

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Michael Jensen: what's what's the consensus here.

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lauren siegel: It seemed that Andrew had a lot of opinions about it unfortunately he's not here, he felt very strongly.

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Michael Jensen: He did and I asked him whether he wanted to be staff on it, he declined so.

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lauren siegel: Doing to.

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lauren siegel: find a new member.

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Michael Jensen: Yes, the applications posted announcements have been made so far I haven't seen a an application come in, but i'll check with all of her and make sure that that is or is not the case, but yes we're looking to fill that as soon as possible.

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lauren siegel: Should we be doing a little more aggressive.

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Michael Jensen: Okay, so this one, I just want to prime this with a discussion, and we can also take public comment.

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Michael Jensen: Let me just I guess start off by saying we are in the midst of updates to the Community plan and the certified local coastal Program.

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Michael Jensen: We have existing documents that I think we should go through and.

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Michael Jensen: Perhaps we should just take them section by section and see if any of them merit changes, and we can do, essentially a red line of our specific plan.

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Michael Jensen: and go through its section by section, and that will also break it up in terms of.

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Michael Jensen: The summer of 2020 we had the planning department sort of give us a preview of where things might be going, that is the only thing we've seen from the planning department.

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Michael Jensen: Two months ago which didn't really have any plans so i'm going to open it up to public comment i'm hoping that the three attendees here are here for that.

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Michael Jensen: So if you guys have any.

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Michael Jensen: So I mean that should be how it works, I have no idea whether that's how it works behind you know the doors of planning, but.

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Michael Jensen: Ideally, we are you know the local voice of you know, or the local representative body, and so, if we're looking to put an input we should you know gather that consensus, and you know.

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lauren siegel: And are they part of the process where they would be open to hearing that feedback, are they too far along are they.

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Michael Jensen: start talking about the various portions of it, but I do want you to keep in mind these three links and the documents there because that's really what that's what we're going to be dealing with in terms of the documents.

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lauren siegel: And what is your timing as to when you want this whole process to be done.

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Michael Jensen: i'd like us to have i'd like us to get through the entire specific plan by like January.

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Michael Jensen: I think that's doable I haven't actually broken these things in some into like modules yet, but I think we can you know, between now and then we have at least what eight more meetings and more meetings something like that, so it should be possible.

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Michael Jensen: Okay, eight or 910 11 call we may actually have, I think we have nine meetings, the holidays may throw things off a little bit, but eight or nine meetings.

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Michael Jensen: So yeah crack them open and let's start thinking about what parts of them make sense, may not make sense and then we'll be also soliciting public comment.

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lauren siegel: And okay Is this also something that we can be asking or pulling some local architects and and getting opinions from them as well, because you know we only have one on our board, so I would think that.

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lauren siegel: Those opinions are important as well, I mean how much outreach are we going to do, beyond the people, the few people that show up to our meetings.

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Michael Jensen: My sense or my feeling is that more people may come into the you know, with this being put on calendar, we may get some more attendance.

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lauren siegel: And do you think it's important to reach out to the various sub neighborhoods.

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Michael Jensen: More nurses and architect to learn.

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lauren siegel: But are we also going to reach out to the sub neighborhood to get their opinions.

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Michael Jensen: Yes, and that will be a natural function of if we're going to break it up like sections, because the section specific plan.

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Mehrnoosh: I was gonna say i'm also interested in urban design and find out when this changes are going to affect a culture and our Community, as well as you know, physically being higher lower whatever the intensity of it so.

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Michael Jensen: make sense now yeah.

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Michael Jensen: Okay well short and sweet meeting tonight guys, so thank you for coming and we'll have another I plan to have another meeting next week, although we don't have cases ready.

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lauren siegel: And do we want to comment at all about the fact that the coastal Commission meeting that's hearing the Venice median project is happening this next two weeks.

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Michael Jensen: i'm We well, what is the date of the.

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lauren siegel: I believe it's August 10 through the 13th I have it here hold on hold on, let me check.

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Michael Jensen: and August 10 is also the deadline, the appeal deadline right.

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lauren siegel: August 10 through the 12th is, and then I guess there's gonna be a lot of public comments, all three days, but I mean that's a big meeting for Venice I would think.

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Michael Jensen: Yes, I think, stay tuned.

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lauren siegel: Is there any goes in in us making a statement for that meeting during the public comments period.

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Michael Jensen: We actually aren't empowered to do that as like a body.

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Michael Jensen: So I mean you as an individual, all of us can can make comments, but.

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Michael Jensen: we're only an official.

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Michael Jensen: Our only official channel goes to the city.

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lauren siegel: But didn't get a chance to vote on it.

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Michael Jensen: We did.

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Michael Jensen: And this was, I would say roundly opposed on both the loop back and the nc level Okay, so, in fact I think twice okay.

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Matthew Royce: Somebody from the dnc go speak officially.

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Michael Jensen: there's does does not have to be Jim.

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Michael Jensen: or candy deputize.

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Matthew Royce: It could be you too.

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Michael Jensen: All right, i'll i'll find out from let me, let me ask Jim what i'm allowed to do in his mind.

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Michael Jensen: I don't want to ruffle any feathers but i'm happy to i'm happy to make a public comment on behalf of the dnc if that if i'm allowed to.

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Matthew Royce: I used to say, to speak in public meetings, the Chair.

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Michael Jensen: Okay, all right well matt says, I can do it's like.

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Matthew Royce: I told I was going to do it, and he said Okay, whatever you want to make them.

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Michael Jensen: Alright, well, I will.

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Michael Jensen: I will sign up to speak.

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Wonderful.

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Michael Jensen: can't wait.

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Michael Jensen: Alright guys Thank you have a good night and.

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Michael Jensen: See you in a week.

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corinne Baginski: Everyone good night.